South Carolina Stand-Up!

Posted on January 7th, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Barack Obama, Bolitics, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

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By the look of things, Barack Obama has New Hampshire on lock:

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in New Hampshire shows Barack Obama earning 39% of the vote while Hillary Clinton attracts 27%. The survey was conducted on Friday night and Saturday afternoon. All interviews were conducted after the Iowa caucuses and before last night’s debate.

After we win in New Hampshire, we have to make sure the Black churches in South Carolina don’t sell-out by taking dirty Clinton money like Magic Johnson.

  • COVERGIRL

    1st!

  • DROCK (Do we really need a Flava of Luv 3??)

    HOW BOLD AM I SITTING AT MY JOB (I work for a major union who supports Hillary) WEARING AN OBAMA SHIRT :)

  • http://www.myspace.com/birdshu Bird

    I don’t believe polls as I have never run across anyone who has participated in one in my life. We won’t know if Barack is winning in New Hampshire until after he wins. Don’t believe the hype.

  • Rebel78

    umm…unfortunately for some reason I think SC will go Clinton (can ya’ll say Sharpton, Jackson and $$$)..just SMH what some “reverends” will do for $$$

  • KuntaKinté

    @Bird after saying what you said about Polls, i am sure you still believe in God in any sort or form! LOL

  • Crap Talker…

    This is why the new school doesn’t respect the old school.

  • KuntaKinté

    But why everybody’s dismissing SC’s own Sen. Edwards?

  • Kimy

    All the best to Obama!

  • Leslie

    I hope Americans for once choose right. It seems the power of the USA is waning and they need a unifying leader to bring it together. Obama offers change, as well as, reinforces the idea that Black people are equals to the rest of the world. fingers crossed he gets nominated by the Democrats and then the white people of America vote for him in a general election.

  • Just Sit And Be Pretty

    From the looks of things, NH is indeed rallying around Obama. One of our senior VPs is in Manchester and went to a rally on Sat. He said it was like attending Woodstock, folks parking and walking toward the venue like it was a pilgrimage. Got there and the place was jam packed, they had to use an overflow gymnasium. He’s also actually going door to door and says the response is good, he’s seeing skeptics turn into believers right before his eyes.

  • KuntaKinté

    “then the white people of America vote for him in a general election.” in the general election this will be a different thingy:

    His name doesn’t sound american, his middle name is hussein, he did drugs, he spent time in pakistan as youngster, etc… I can see all the negative adds they will run on Obama it is going to hugly, dirt and most of all bloody…

    So if for once we do not unite and back him up, then well yeah let’s give up the struggle!

  • Oh F@ck That!!!

    I don’t give a what WHO votes, he’s not gonna win although I am gonna vote for him:)He’s not aggressive enough for this day and time IMHO like most Democrates, but I just can’t see myself as a Republican either. I guess its 6 of one and 1/2 a dozen of the other…..

    I knew the same about Bush/Gore but I still voted for Gore as well. yall see what happened right? Well, it will be WORSE this time around. THEY have ways of getting around the constitution and I don’t know why everyone is stuck on optimism instead of reality.

    To each their own though…..But he DEFINATLY won’t win most of the Bible Belt, that goes without saying.

  • PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Just Sit

    I support OBAMA 100% Hearing him speak is so uplifting and refreshing. I went to hear him speak when he was here in Philly and I swear it was like a breath of fresh air.

  • michael jackson’s nose is really the holy grail!

    I usually like dark chocolate but Obama is O-bangin’!He could get it under the Oval Office desk any day!

  • crazy black lady

    if those black preachers stab this brother in the back, i’m not going to church no more! hillary doesn’t have any blacks in her inner circle. she represents more of the same. if whites can vote for

    a black, blacks can too….

  • uptowngirl

    Good luck to Obama. But let’s not take anything for granted. One state at a time.

  • KuntaKinté

    The problem is that there so many Uncle Ruckers (the old guy with corny eyes in the boondocks) out there, who will blame Obama from taking the white lady’s spot for the presidency, instead of being thankfull like Powell and ask her a seat in the cabinet as maybe Attorney General or State Secretary

  • Bindex

    The Audacity of hope,Hope in things unseen, hope in things that brings people together to get things done, hope for the betterment of a Nation, hope for peace security and progress,Hope for equality and justice, hope for a Nation healed,Hope that we can believe in,Hope that works,Hope that moves a Nation forward, Hope to dream again and acheive great things in life , the Audacity of hope, The great man Barack Obama

  • http://www.myspace.com/birdshu Bird

    KuntaKinté

    @Bird after saying what you said about Polls, i am sure you still believe in God in any sort or form! LOL

    ***************************************************

    Are you comparing God to political polls? Let me know when the lightening strikes.

    The polls said Hillary was winning or neck and neck last week and yet she came in third.

  • AND…

    DROCK (Do we really need a Flava of Luv 3??)

    HOW BOLD AM I SITTING AT MY JOB (I work for a major union who supports Hillary) WEARING AN OBAMA SHIRT

    Get it gurl^^^^^^^

  • AND…

    nd1979

    I really think the white youth is standing up! They want change and so does the rest of America…and the republicans that are running are jokes! I was for Hiliary but its a 50/50 with her and Obama for me….

    You are right. They were saying in Iowa that the younger crowd is really doing it big. And that’s where Obama is really kicking ass. The youngers are giving him that edge. They were saying that the majority of the 18-24 crowd are for Obama.

  • kiki

    Speaking as an African-American woman who lives in SC, most people who I come into contact with at churh, work, or in a social setting Blacks and Whites are in support of Obama. Most of us believe that America needs a change in and Obama is that change!!!

  • coco

    Black people vote for this man please!!!!! Obama needs our vote!!!

  • http://www.download-songs.org/artists/2/2/1/sade.jpg Phoebe

    That’s what i like to here KiKi.

    Go Obama!!

  • http://www.download-songs.org/artists/2/2/1/sade.jpg Phoebe

    Say it COCO!!!!

  • Can I Leave My Nikes On? A.K.A. SBM

    lol if Obama can win lily white New Hampshire and lose chocolate South Carolina!..the earth is officially flat

  • CaramelTai

    I am getting more excited with every primary that passes. I think 2008-2009 will mos def be a year for change! Go OBAMA!

  • Lady Architect

    I’m glad he’s knocking her out the box….I think many people are really starting to open their eyes and believe the conspiracy of the clintons being secretly involved with the Bush family…donno if it’s true, but I wouldn’t be surprised…..Go Obama!

  • AND…

    Nita

    You are right about it. Iowa made world wide news. Even ppl in others countries who are keeping up with this want him to win and they can’t even vote for him. I just pray no one does anything foolish cuz you know some folks will go to extremes to get what they want.

  • cat4everrr

    don’t count you chickens before they hatch. we will find out tommorrow

  • Nita

    Bird wrote, “I don’t believe polls as I have never run across anyone who has participated in one in my life. We won’t know if Barack is winning in New Hampshire until after he wins. Don’t believe the hype.”

    I agree. But Iowa was pretty damned impressive. Obama touched people. He inspired people. He made people feel like anything was possible. And then he completely crushed EVERYBODY — Democrat and Republican. That was completely unexpected. People really, really REALLY liked his speech afterwards. He made believers out of a lot of people just with that speech alone. Now, the debate — Edwards won it, but then Edwards and Obama were playing Woody and Wesley on Hillary, and Richardson had to jump in on Hillary’s side. I don’t know what that’s about, Edwards trying to take out Hillary for himself or Edwards trying to get on the Obama ticket. I don’t know.

    On the plus side, the Republicans were stumbling all over themselves to steal Obama’s message for themselves. That’s how much Obama has changed the game.

    I really think Obama can win New Hampshire — by 2 points or 20 points, I think he can do it. We’ll just have to wait until after the caucus results are in, though. But I think he can do it.

    We’ll see. And after that: South Carolina. Lord, have mercy. I’m almost afraid to imagine what’s going to go down when the news trucks hit South Carolina. Are they only going to seek out Obama supporters, or Edwards/Hillary/Ron Paul/Huckabee/whoever supporters in the mix? I hope they don’t stereotype, and that we don’t aid the stereotyping.

    I hope they don’t screw up Obama or black folk, by glossing over just how hard this is going to be for many folks. I remember when Obama was in New York, and everybody loved him — but they weren’t going to support him. Or they pulled the ‘I haven’t made up my mind’ b.s. We’ll see. We’ll see.

  • http://www.idontgivearatsass.com Bahama Mama

    Go head on mister obama….I’d like for him to win…though it won’t affect me all that much.

  • Free Man

    I did research on all the hopefuls. Do you all know that Barack went to Chicago Uni. witch is owned by the rockerfellers. Whos family help start the Illumaniti. The next 4 years is going to be scary for the USA no matter who wins. Do you all even know why the democratic party was started and who really run the USA. Wake up people all the candidates are just puppets on both sides. Research Jordan Maxwell.

  • Ttime

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

    No one will be HAPPIER to see Obama get the Democratic nomination than the Republicans!!!

    After the job that Bush has done, and the backlash against the Republicans, the ONLY way to ENSURE that there is another Republican President is if he is running against a BLACK MAN!!!

    This RACIST country will never vote a black man into the white house!!

    Consider these facts:

    1. As a presidential candidate, Obama has had to have the EARLIEST security detail due to RACIST DEATH THREATS!

    2. In addition, when Obama had his 60 Minutes interview, CBS opened up the blogs for comments on the interview. CBS later admitted that they had to shut down the blog down because of RACIST comments!!

    Racism has NOT changed, it has just gone underground. It is AMAZING how RACIST white people are when they have ANONYMITY–anonymity that the internet provides. Are these the same people who are supposed to vote Obama into the presidency? Blacks don’t make up enough of the US population for our vote alone to elect him to office.

    Thoughts to ponder…

  • AL Sharpton

    Obama is going to sweep his way into the Oval office. Anyone who thinks differently hasnt been watching the political coverage. This is a MOVEMENT that transcends Black, White, Republican, Democrat, Gay and Straight.

    People are voting who never felt the urge to vote before. The top political pundits are comparing him to MLK, JFK and RFK. If you dont know nothing about that then please pick up a book.

    The world is changing and John Edward’s wife summed it up best:

    “GEORGE W. BUSH MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR A WHITE MAN TO GET ELECTED”

    If you haven’t registered to vote then do so, even if you don’t vote for him. Otherwise you will find yourself on the outside of something HISTORIC.

    My name is AL SHARPTON and I approve this message.

  • Nita

    @ And…

    I know. It blew me away to read about the hope other people had just by looking at Obama. He really does represent something new, something different, something hopeful. It’s a world wide repudiation of George Bush and everything the Bush administration stands for.

    Just to have Obama’s face after Bush’…. It’s a honeymoon, and most people like it. Again, that Iowa speech was impressive to many people. To have someone who can command the english language so well, after Bush (who’s still making stupid mistakes)… And everybody loves Michelle and their two little girls.

    I read about Kenya, and what Obama and Iowa means to Kenya and especially the Luo people; I read about how Obama spoke out against the corruption in Kenya way before the violence made worldwide news.

    I read a Turkish paper which was blown away that the son of a muslim, bearing a muslim name, could be leader of the biggest Christian country in the world. They got it wrong assuming he was muslim, since Obama is Christian, but their awe in thinking ‘anything is possible’ was contagious.

    We can’t blow this. I’m gonna find out how to participate in my state.

  • AND…

    Ttime

    I feel where you are coming from but you have to take Iowa into consideration. It is made up of 93% white ppl and he won. On a different note, everybody talking about whites and blacks what about the hispanic, asian, and jewish communities? I want to hear from you guys or anyone who has a lot of friends of this ethnicity.

  • AND…

    Nita

    One thing that does bother me is that ppl want to diss Obama b/c of his name or the nationality and or religion of his father. Why is it that he must be punished for his father? No one has control over who they are born to or their name. People are really going to vote for some ignorant reasons and those ignorant people are the reasons our country has gone down hill. Any issue that this country has is a WHITE MAN’S FAULT. Why you ask? Because only white men have been the leaders of this country so everything wrong with it is their fault. This country has flourished at the hands of minorities while being run by whites. So to me if you don’t like the state that this country is in who else can you blame but the ones in charge?

  • Nita

    @ Ttime,

    Thank you for your thoughts. I will say, if you think it’s only the Republicans who have issues with a black man, I’ve heard some stories about white Democrats….oooooooweeee! Racism knows no political party.

    And since the majority of black people are/were supporting Hillary, and two pairs of white men blacks supported in 2000 and 2004 were wrongfully disenfranchised, I’m confused about why we shouldn’t give our votes to Obama just because they’ll never let him be president. Black people in 2008 are going to support a woman whom half of the country refuses to have anything to do with they hate her and her husband so much. How was supporting Hillary supposed to keep the White House out of Republican hands?

    Same question for black people who are Ron Paul fanatics. How is voting for a Republican going to keep the White House out of Republican hands?

    But they’re white, and Obama isn’t, so black folk have to make up reasons, I guess. I also know about fear of what would happen if a black man actually won, we’d have to shut up about certain things; and the fear of what would happen if that black man actually failed in the White House. You know what, though? FEAR is not a good reason not to support this man. If you think he’s the best man for the job, but the only reason you can’t support him is because ‘they’ll never let him’ — so what? Support him anyway. If, on the other hand, you really do believe another candidate would do a better job, has more substance, vote for them. But don’t support them because ‘America will never support a black man’.

    We got to break out of this self-destructive, self-defeating thinking, ttime. We’ve got to stop being afraid to fail, being afraid of being hurt. We’ve got to get off the plantation of being comfortable in being officially downtrodden. 90% of us voted for Jesse Jackson in 1988, helping to make him the number two man in several states and winning 5.

    Why are we suddenly afraid to support a brother now? If we could vote for Jesse, sing songs for Jesse, run with Jesse — why would we be afraid to support Obama? why are we questioning Obama’s blackness? why are we asking for a political perfection of Obama we never asked of Jesse? I don’t get it. Are we that tied to the plantation of ‘white folks lead better’?

    We need to wake up alright, Ttime; but I think we need to wake up to the power we have within ourselves more than we need to wake up to the power others will wield against us. These are just my opinions, on reading your own. We don’t agree, but I appreciate you, brother.

    Thank you again for writing, and THINKING.

  • Rebel78

    @Nita

    I hope your right about SC, but for some reason I just think that most of the church going black folk will support Hillary and since they make up a huge voting block in SC. Lets hope that there really are enough people in SC, like in Iowa and NH who want a change and that the old heads can be stopped.

  • helltothanaw

    @Nita

    ^^^Your post is to long for me to copy & paste, but I will say this.. Go girl!! Go!! Drop that knowledge!! I’m on that same wavelength.. We do have to stop being afraid.. We are capable of such greatness, we just need to believe in ourselves for once..

  • Lady Architect

    lolMary J…..you are really scaring me…but honestly I think history is just coming back because the true first president of the united states was a black man…they talk about him in many biographies by black people..of course in our “normal” history books that chapter is not included….its all about george washington

  • On And On

    I don’t give a what WHO votes, he’s not gonna win although I am gonna vote for him:)He’s not aggressive enough for this day and time IMHO like most Democrates, but I just can’t see myself as a Republican either. I guess its 6 of one and 1/2 a dozen of the other…..

    I knew the same about Bush/Gore but I still voted for Gore as well. yall see what happened right? Well, it will be WORSE this time around. THEY have ways of getting around the constitution and I don’t know why everyone is stuck on optimism instead of reality.

    To each their own though…..But he DEFINATLY won’t win most of the Bible Belt, that goes without saying.

    ——————————————-

    Nope – Obama won’t win the South. Nor will he will the White House if he wins the Democratic nomination later this year.

    I hate saying this, but many of the young Obama supporters have the kind of delusion that only comes with youth. Their support of Obama is exactly like many young black folks who supported Jesse Jackson for president 20 years ago in 1988.

    Virtually everyone was sick of 8 years of Reaganomics and were crying out for “change”. Jackson got black folks and many whites excited about him – winning many caucuses and primaries along the way. Yet he successfully divided the Democratic vote in the process. When it was all over, Michael Dukakis beat him by a very narrow margin for the Democratic nomination. By then, the Democratic vote was so divided that in November 1988, George Bush Sr. became President.

    I have a very eerie, sick feeling that history is about to repeat itself.

  • http://edessedesigns.com edesse

    Polls, if done correctly, are actually quite accurate.

  • Smartie

    This man is our generations Kennedy. Hillary has been in politics for 35 years and keeps spitting out the word “CHANGE” Hil, you haven’t changed anything since you’ve been in politics. Please quit the race, go back to Chappaqua, and have a bake sale to buy some new ferns for the town roundabout.

  • Ttime

    I NEVER said don’t support Obama. All I am saying is that we should not be taking the victory lap just yet. If Obama does get the nomination, I will be the first in line to VOTE for him–I’m certainly NOT voting republican. But, I am not so niave as to think that just because he gets the nomination he will become the first black president of the US.

    I’m not saying don’t support Obama. I’m just saying that the US has not changed as much as we would like to believe and we should not walk with blinders on in regards to race relations in this country. Race relations have not changed THAT much in this country, it is just NOT “politically incorrect” to be OPENLY racist!

  • DR. FUNK

    If he wins N.H.-South Carolina is the last fire wall for team Clinton.He wins S.C.-she’s gonna have to pucker up & kiss ass to be on the ticket.TO ALL THOSE CLINTON SUPPORTERS OUT THERE: These clowns have been on the national stage since ’88.If nothing else…are’nt you just tired of looking at them?

  • AND…

    Ttime

    I feel what you saying. It seems to me that you are more on the realistic side based on history and I’m not mad at you for that but I don’t think anyone is taking that victory lap you spoke of; we are just hopeful.

  • Ttime

    Why was MJB blocked? Was it something that she said on a different post?

  • Macon

    Most of these preachers ain’t nothing but hustlers anyway. Driving around in their expensive cars, living in mansions from the money of their congregations. If they hand out turkeys at Thanksgiving they think they’d done a wonderful job. i cannot stand most of them and I wish folks and the media would stop running to these old fools who think they speak for us, everytime they want our opinion. From big permed up Al to do-nothing Jessie, all they care about is money and attention. Shut up preachers, all of you ignorant, do-nothing, living in the past, whining, lining they on pocket hustlers. To hell with all of that crabs in the barrel thinking cause we tired of you and all your crazy-ass liberal friends using us. Yall living in the past preachers don’t want things to change. Too comfortable thinking that we can’t do nothing I guess.

  • vjhe

    What exactly has Obama promised to do in the Black community? What are his views on Affirmative Action? Exactly how does he plan on changing Washington, I certainly hope he isn’t thinking he is going call Republicans into a room and negotiate with them until they compromise. How is he going to cut lobbyist ties (which HE HIMSELF has also benefited from financially) from Washington?

    I like Obama as well but he is not enough of a realist for me. Politics is much more complicated than being nice to your oppenents and hoping they are going to cooperate. He is either not smart enough to know that or many of his supporters are completely unware of it. Republicans fight dirty with no mercy. The Fox News Machine is very powerful and influencial and very unfair…. can he stand up to the influential Fox pundits? And God forbid he end up running against John McCain and a International “incident” happens right before the election. Obama will not be able to lean on hope then.

    Again, Obama is not as realistic as I personally would like. Nixon, Carter, Bush # 1, and Clinton all ran on ‘change’ but onced they actually reached Washington, they were slapped in the face with reality. But the difference between them and Obama is they all had some form of executive experience and had been tested. Obama has not which really concerns me.

    I never doubted Obama’s intentions, convictions, and passions, it’s just I don’t feel he is being honest with his supporters about what exactly he means by ‘change’ and if he can realistically accomplish that, despite what the reality of History says.

  • AND…

    @chacha

    I agree with you. All the minorities put together only make about 26% of the ppl in this country. If a black man (half black for those who want to discredit it) is in the lead guess what it’s not b/c of us; it’s b/c of the white folks. Ppl keep saying “what are they gonna do for us?” I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It makes no sense for any candidate, regardless of race to focus the majority or even half of their attention on race issues b/c there aren’t enough of those ppl in the country to really sway a vote. We can give someone that last little push to help them win but in sheer numbers there are not that many of us in comparison to the white ppl. Saying all that if Obama is in the lead then that must mean we (our country) has come farther along in racism than some of us are willing to admit. People like familiarity. When the mind changes the body will follow.

  • lovely and amazing

    Obama 2008! Qualified. Prepared. Ready. Obama 2008!

    Don’t give up on SC. People are changing minds in thier families. Between me and my friend, we already got two grandmothers, an uncle, and aunt to move on from Hillary to Obama. Starts at home people. Some of our elders just need a little help with Clinton-detox.

  • AND…

    @vjhe

    If you haven’t already please read my 11:14 post in response to your questions about what Obama is going to do for the black community and affirmative action.

  • andie

    We need a revolution. Take me higher Lord! Obama has GOT to win this.

  • PRTTYBRWNGIRL

    LOL why is mary blocked? is it for impersonating and making comments under the guise that mary j blige has said these comments? LMAO

  • vjhe

    And…, whether it makes sense or not for Obama to address what he will do for individual communities (particularly the black community), the REALITY is people want to know that, and SHOULD know that before they throw their support behind someone.

    And despite the Black vote in raw numbers, to think Obama loosing a large portion of the black vote at this point, wouldn’t have any effect is unrealistic. Barack Obama needs the black vote just like Hillary does. The Black vote DOES count for something.

  • Kurt Eric Munroe

    I believe that Obama will take NH. I believe that younger people (black and white) are standing up and will not stand for the older generation telling them what they can and cannot achieve. Go Obama

  • DR. FUNK

    vjhe

    What exactly has Obama promised to do in the Black community? What are his views on Affirmative Action? Exactly how does he plan on changing Washington, I certainly hope he isn’t thinking he is going call Republicans into a room and negotiate with them until they compromise. How is he going to cut lobbyist ties (which HE HIMSELF has also benefited from financially) from Washington?

    I like Obama as well but he is not enough of a realist for me. Politics is much more complicated than being nice to your oppenents and hoping they are going to cooperate. He is either not smart enough to know that or many of his supporters are completely unware of it. Republicans fight dirty with no mercy. The Fox News Machine is very powerful and influencial and very unfair…. can he stand up to the influential Fox pundits? And God forbid he end up running against John McCain and a International “incident” happens right before the election. Obama will not be able to lean on hope then.

    Again, Obama is not as realistic as I personally would like. Nixon, Carter, Bush # 1, and Clinton all ran on ‘change’ but onced they actually reached Washington, they were slapped in the face with reality. But the difference between them and Obama is they all had some form of executive experience and had been tested. Obama has not which really concerns me.

    I never doubted Obama’s intentions, convictions, and passions, it’s just I don’t feel he is being honest with his supporters about what exactly he means by ‘change’ and if he can realistically accomplish that, despite what the reality of History says.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Tha’ HELL are you talkin’ about? Are you gonna let your CONSPIRACY THEORY stop you from seeing this through? Let’s say you’re right…okay so he’s elected & the abstract “CHANGE” that he spoke of does’nt materialize.The worst case scenario is that he’s just like any other politician.This country won’t divide along racial lines if he’s the Democratic nominee.I think he and his team are smart enough to move closer to the center in the general election.They’d better be.

  • chacha

    @ vjhe

    nobody is saying the black vote doesn’t count for anything. what is being said is that America is ready for a black president. and the fact that democrat voters (especially whites, the majority of the US population) are voting in big numbers for Obama shows that we don’t have to quit the race before it starts.

    @ everybody

    Obama is getting most of his support from whites. therefore, lets drop the talk about “America will never electing a black president.” pessimism and cynicism never achieved anything.

  • vjhe

    I feel like people are drinking the Obama Kool-Aid and are drunk on hope rather on whether he is the right choice RIGHT NOW. Plus from what I’ve seen, people are indeed being distracted by having a ‘younger’ black President. I’m willing to bet almost no one on this site is as pro-black as I am, and no one would like to see a black President more than me, but my gutt is telling me now is not the right time for Obama. Just like I felt Americans were being distracted by the whole morality, homosexual, abortion tricks by the Republicans in the last elections, I’ve got the same feelings about Obama in this ‘change’; I can single handedly change Washington; wouldn’t it be cool to have a black President, love-fest going on with him.

    We are looking at another Jimmy Carter in the White House with Obama, and despite my love and admiration for Jimmy Carter as a man, he was not a good President and made horrendous decisions based upon good intentions.

    At this point, the media has been very kind to him in comparison to others, he has not been tested at all, and this hollow promise of ‘change’ hasn’t moved me at all because so many others before him have promised the exact same things until they saw reality. I’m not convinced of Obama.

  • AND…

    Thank you chacha. Your response to vjhe’s last post was perfect.

    “nobody is saying the black vote doesn’t count for anything. what is being said is that America is ready for a black president. and the fact that democrat voters (especially whites, the majority of the US population) are voting in big numbers for Obama shows that we don’t have to quit the race before it starts.”

  • Ara

    Obama all the way!! Stand up New Hampshire and South Carolina!! Obama president 08!!

  • AND…

    @vjhe

    I got no issues with your last post. If your gut is telling you no then roll with that. That’s the only thing you need to be worried about but your previous post reeked of pessimism and despair. I get a sense of “there’s no point cuz it won’t do any good mentality”. But that’s just what my gut feeling.

  • Go to Hell permed up Al

    Al Sharpton, SRFU you fat two-bit hustler. We all tired of you getting rich off us and we all know how jealous you and Jessie are of any other well educated Black man who speaks up and gets elected. Your outdated time and ideas ran out so just go back to what you and Jessie do best, pimping out poor folks with your butt buddies media.

  • AL Sharpton

    @ Go to Hell Permed up…

    I believe that is directed at me.

    i only use this name because i think it’s funny. Al Sharpton is a person who exploits his own people to get richer. Its an old scam… he threatens to boycott so called “racist” companies UNLESS they pay his organization.

    He is part of an old system that is going to go away quite soon.

    Did you notice how he went to Jena and grabbed up all the microphones and claimed credit when it was actually a local radio DJ who orchestrated that movement.

    Al Sharpton does us more harm then good. Being divided is not working for us. we need to enter the mainstream and reap the benefits the other Americans get.

    And i’m not talking about affirmative action.

    By the way, i am 100% for OBAMA (although i love Hilary and Edwards ain’t all bad either. Even McCain isnt a total asshole)

  • Whitegirl

    Obama 08. This is the first time in my 38 years that I’ve ever felt patriotic and excited about our future. I watch his speaches on the Web and the man brings a tear to my eye. I’m volunteering to do what I can for the man when he comes to WI.

  • Smartie

    @ Whitegirl

    I totally co-sign with your post ! Can you imagine a year from now saying President Obama ?

    B.O. in 08 (and it don’t mean Body Odor either ! )

  • Whitegirl

    @Smartie

    Yes I can. I would be honored to meet this man knowing that I may be looking at our next President. He is the only candidate, Republican or Democrat, that walks, talks, and sounds like the kind of person I’d like to have running and representing this country. Quality of character is incredibly important to me and I’m impressed with him.

  • Lite&Sweet

    Barack is going to kill Clinton in NH. Im thrilled that he’s NOT taking any photos with Jesse or Al. I hope they keep quiet personally because the Republicans will jump on that.

    WHAT OBAMA HAS GOT THAT THE OTHERS DONT…

    He is the youngest candidate on the platform. You look at him and you DONT see ‘the establishment’. You dont see someone who has lobbyists in his pockets or favors to pay back. The Clintons are the 90′s and frankly, I dont want to go back there. The Clintons are the BabyBoomer generation. Obama is pulling the “X” generation because ‘we’ are grown and we dont need ‘dad’ to tell us what to do. We’re ready to run the country and “60 is the new 40″ AINT working in 2008. Time to pass the torch.

  • Lite&Sweet

    and if you listen to conservative radio, its crazy. Republicans are actually excited about him. The spinners will say that they want him because they think they can beat him but put Obama against Huckabee, old *** McCain, Mitt “KenDoll” Rommney or slick Rudy and he will TROUNCE them.

  • Whitegirl

    Everyone else in my family is a conservative Republican, but I’m stepping out this time and doing what feels right to me by voting and supporting Obama. I’ve been studying him for the past 6 months and he speaks for me. This country needs him.

  • Prettything731

    Voting for Hilary Clinton is like putting a “Bush” back in office. We had Daddy Bush, then we had Clinton and then we had baby Bush, now you want to elect the wife of Bill Clinton. Do you guys see it, they work together. Everyone keeps saying Obama doesn’t know what he’s doing and we don’t know much about his background and the stuff we are aware of is negative. So was US aware the the “Bushes” knew about 9/11 and thats why he positioned himself with a bunch of school children. The Bushes and Clintons are coverup for one another. I would like everyone to stand up and proudly say “I am voting for Barak”, but just please don’t vote Hilary. Thanks.

  • JerseyBred

    Obama/Edwards ’08

  • Lite&Sweet

    @ Jersey…

    Im cool with that one, but what about Edwards as AG? He has the passion about ‘going after corruption’ that the position needs.

  • Lite&Sweet

    but then who could be the VP candidate?

  • lovely and amazing

    I second Obama/Edwards. Prefer Obama/Paul but since that’s impossible. Obama/Edwards 08. Michelle Obama will make a fantastic first lady. Stylish, classic, modest and most importantly educated.

  • AL Sharpton

    @JerseyBred and Lovely Amazing

    Co-sign Obama/Edwards ’08

  • miss thang

    Well I like Obama’s personality and agree with a majority of his stances on specific political issues…however I can not help but be suspicious of this new ‘popularity’ he is receiving from non Blacks. I mean, the man hasn’t made it past the primary yet and he already has to walk with security because of RACIST (yeah yeah I know ..Iowa is the ‘whitest state’)threats.

    I still don’t believe racists just disappeared overnight.

    I don’t believe Bush won either of his two elections.

    I don’t believe that they can’t find Osama.

    I don’t believe that Hussein was more of a threat.

    I don’t believe there was ever a war on drugs.

    I don’t believe Bill Clinton was a Black president.

    I dont’ believe that 9/11 was a surprise to the US government.

  • Whitegirl

    @Miss Thang

    I co-sign with you on a lot of what you’re saying, not all, but a lot. However, I’d like to think that we can have a better future with Obama than we’ve had a past with Bush/Clinton.

  • vjhe

    Angel, thank you for having the eyes to see what I am saying. I NEVER ONCE SAID, NOR BELIEVE WE CANNOT HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT. That is not why I am skeptical about Obama right now. The reason I am not big on Obama is because I don’t believe he is ready for this position. This man has no executive experience and has not been tested, not even by the media and there are signs that the American people are about to place him in the most powerful position in the world. I am concerned about health care, the economy, and global warming, but I personally am MOST concerned about International affairs. The Bush Administration has placed us on a knife edge internationally and I want someone in the white house who will know how to properly deal with Kim Jung Il when he starts acting a fool. I want someone in the White House who will know how to react to Vladamir Putin’s increasing random acts of aggression. I want someone in the White House who TRULY understand the complexities of Israel. I want someone as President who is not going to screw up the EXTREMELY volital situation in Pakistan because he is HOPING to inspire everyone to get along.

    Barack Obama has given no indication in any of his fabulous speeches that he has the balls to handle such situations and the press, purposefully or not, have chosen not to call him on it. They are sitting around not asking the hard questions just like they sat around and didn’t ask Bush the hard questions. And the most frustrating thing to me is the American people are so caught up on his race and his coolness, and his age, and his celebrity that they can’t see his screaming flaws.

    He keeps bringing up Clintons’ mistakes but no one will TRULY put him on the spot about his COINCIDENTALLY missing a number of Key votes since he has been in the Senate. He brings up Clintons’ ties to lobbyist but he himself have benefited from their money. He said he was against the war from the beginning and would not support it or funding for it, then he got to Washington and voted to keep funding it. After hearing this man give a inspirational speech, the American people completely shut their brains down and fall into the whole ‘change’ mantra.

    Obama’s race has nothing to do with it for me. I would love to vote for a black man for President but I just do not have the confidence in Obama right now. It’s not because I don’t agree with him or think he is a bad person, I just believe the time is not now.

    Hell would almost have to freeze over before I voted Republican but if this were between Obama and Colin Powell, I would probably be voting Republican for the first time, and they BOTH are black men.

    At this point in our Country’s History, FAAARRRR TOO MUCH WEIGHT is being placed on HOPE than it probably should be and it is scary.

    And lastly, I will boldly say anyone who believes Hillary Clinton in the White House will be no different than Bush; believes her 8 years in the White House were spent planning dinners like Laura Bush; or believe her 6 years on the Congresional Foriegn Relations Committee means nothing, is a dilusional fool.

    Thank God Clarence Thomas didn’t run for President and run on a platform of ‘change’.

  • Jebus (Stinker)

    If anyone qualifies as the so-called “first Black president,” it is Lyndon B. Johnson. He got the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 passed. He nominated Thurgood Marshall to the US Supreme Court. What in the hell did Bill Clinton do for African-Americans that remotely resembles LBJ’s record?

  • vjhe

    And Pervster do you believe Reagan walked off of a Hollywood stage and into the White House? Please tell me you know he didn’t.

    I know what HOPE is, but if you believe “hope is everything”, I got a bridge I want to sell to you. You sound like those people who believe all you need in marriage is love.

    Again, people are being distracted. People resent the fact that Hillary voted for the war and she always votes to fund the war. The bothersome thing to people like me is, if Obama does the same…he should be called on it. He is not being called on his BS, and many of his supporters don’t seem to care because they can’t get past his intoxicating speechs about CHANGE. Put him on the hot seat. FORCE HIM to answer some questions. If he gets the nomination, I want him to skip on over to the FOX News Network and show us he is a big boy. This man has not been tested and I want him to prove to me a vote for him would be wise instead of making me FEEL GOOD.

    All of you folks under 30, think back to your history classes and examine the Carter years. Carter cared about people and had a heart of gold. He wanted better for America. But having good intentions and giving people hope IS NOT ENOUGH when you are vying for the most powerful position on earth. Unfortunately many Americans treat the electing of our president like it’s a high school popularity contest, and that is sad.

    Hillary Clinton suggested Obama should be treated the same as the other candidates and she is right. He is a media darling now and he is getting spanked gently for one reason or the other and some are blinded to it.

    I have no problem with people supporting Obama, but from what I’ve been hearing so far, the actual reasons for many supporting him is really troubling to me. His pretty words aren’t practical and when a mass of people can’t see that……

    He still has yet to impress me.

  • rachel

    Go Barrack!…either him or Edwards , between the 2 whichever one wins I will feel satisfied!

    and to Jebus..

    You are so right ..B Johnson, never got enough credit for progressive stance on civil rights

    Also lets not forget T. Roosevelt …He started the “Great Soceity: Social security, minimu wage, medicaid and medicare for poor and homeless, list goes on before him poor people had no options and ther richer class took advantage of working class..he implemented labor right, and extended unioun org..for labor to defend against abusive employers …LB Johnson,…and T Roosevelt did more for Blacks and the Poor , disabled then any other.

  • The Real Sringer Bell

    @ Al Sharpton,

    Even though i’m still mad at you for dragging James Brown’s body up and down the east coast, you are right on point with these posts.

  • Nita

    Rachel and Jebus (Stinker) funny y’all should mention LBJ. Guess what Hillary said?

    The background (courtesy of Geekesque at Daily Kos and Geek Tragedy at Democratic Underground. They might be the same person. I don’t know):

    Hillary Clinton at the debate: “”We don’t need to be raising the false hopes of our country about what can be delivered.”

    Obama pulls a Serena on her, effortless but powerful: (Obama told his audience that hope made President Kennedy aim to put a man on the moon and Martin Luther King Jr. to imagine the end of segregation.) “If anything crystallized what this campaign is about, it was that right there,” Obama said of Clinton’s comment in the debate. “Some are thinking in terms of our constraints, and some are thinking about our limitless possibilities.”

    Hillary sprains her ankle on the court and still can’t hit the ball: “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act. It took a president to get it done. The power of that dream became real in people’s lives because we had a president capable of action.”

    What do you all think about what Hillary said? The blogosphere is on fire with people trying to determine whether (and just how badly) Hillary dissed Dr. King and Dr. King’s ultimate sacrifice in order to score political points. I do believe that, yes, LBJ did a great thing by signing the Civil Rights Bill. But I didn’t know that LBJ had called it the ‘Nigger Bill’ when he was doing it. I’ll let that pass, like I let Lincoln’s n-bombs pass. I can’t pass on LBJ maybe having something to do with Kennedy dying in the first place.

    But that Civil Rights Bill was Jack Kennedy’s baby; and it wasn’t even really his baby, since it took the sacrifices in blood, sweat, tears and lives to get Jack Kennedy to even consider it.

    There would be no Civil Rights Bill without the HOPES, the AUDACITY TO HOPE, of those who came before. The president, both of them, were just followers at that point.

    I also learned that LBJ didn’t want to meet with Dr. King until he saw Malcolm X and realized just how much Malcolm’s message resonated with blacks. He was so afraid of Malcolm X that he finally met with King to talk.

    On the sad positive side, LBJ signing that bill is what made the Dixiecrats bolt for the Republican party. A lot of evil people in the world. The Change comes from the bottom and works it way up to the top, though. Obama is able to seriously run for president because of dreams, and people believing in the dreams so much that they sacrificed to make those dreams reality — not because the president waved a wand and said ‘It is done’.

    Is Hillary Clinton being misread, though? or did she stick her foot in her mouth? I think she stuck her foot in her mouth. But I also don’t believe she meant it in the way it came out. I hope not.

    If she did mean it like that, she is through. You don’t diss Dr. King and the sacrifices of the many who died for Civil Rights, by saying that LBJ was a doer and Dr. King and his followers only dreamers.

  • http://yahoo natasha

    As a South Carolinian I know I’m working hard just to get alot of our people registered. They love to do the barber and beauty shop debating, but most aren’t even registered to vote. So first things first. I agree with that Clinton-detox… Obama for America!!!!

  • Nita

    @ Kiki, I understand where you’re coming from. But I didn’t read it as all black people who don’t support Obama being sell outs.

    I read it as black people who take money not to support him are sell outs. And that’s the truth. George Bush pulled the same this, paying money to black churches in order to get the preachers to sway the opinions of their congregation. That’s why I never had respect for T. D. Jakes. Well, Hillary is paying off black preachers to support her. She paid off that South Carolina State Senator Darrell Jackson to support her. Those people all represent the old school, the patronage system, where tit for tat meant ‘pay us some cash and we’ll absolve your white liberal guilt and speak you up’. That’s why Jesse Jackson went from awesome to odious, for me, when I realized the full extent of the shakedowns that were occurring. And I never liked Al Sharpton.

    I wonder how much of the support Hillary Clinton has gathered from ‘named’ folks, is because they like her and believe in her — or because they’ve been promised something, or because they owe her something? Magic Johnson screwed up. He can still come back home.

    Anybody can support anybody they want to. I just hope it’s for the right reasons, and not out of fear or being bought off.

  • DM

    Negroes,

    There is no blueprint for being President. No guidebook. It takes intelligence and diplomacy, both which Barack has. Please vote and vote for Barack. I predict a Barack/Edwards ticket.

  • playlist

    I support Barack Obama 100%

  • The Real Stringer Bell

    What kind of animal is this Lisa character to crawl up in here with her obvious smear chain e-mail.. Die.

  • bee bee

    Let me start out by saying that I really like Barack Obama. I love him. I’m sure he’s a good man who loves his mama; however, I don’t support his run for the Democratic nomination at this time. I have a real problem with two things.

    First, he’s been a U.S. Senator for all of 11 minutes. If I were from Illinois, I’d be pissed if I voted to send him to the Senate and after he spends two minutes there he decides it’s a good idea to run for President. How about he takes a shot at doing the job the people of Illinois sent him to Congress to do? I’m sure it doesn’t bother some people; however, I have a real problem with him not fulfilling his commitment to Illinois.

    Second of all, he’s got no experience. Eleven years (or how many ever it was) in a state legislature hardly qualifies one to run for President. He keeps talking about not sending the same old players back to do the job; however, you’ve got to know how to play the game in order to change it. Sorry, but it takes more than just hope and idealism.

    Should Mr. Obama somehow win the Democratic nomination (which I seriously doubt will happen), I’ll support him at that time because the thought of another Republican in the White House for the next 4 years makes me wanna move to Canada. However, I just can’t bring myself to do it now.

    I’m sure this will anger some people and perplex others; however, we’re all entitled to our beliefs. As a people, we don’t have to agree on everything and we can be respectful of our differences in opinion.

    Peace.

  • ImpeachW

    .

    THE LAST THING Repubs want is to fight Obama.

    They cannot, w/o being racist –for which they’d be crucified for.

    It’s Hillary they’ve been rubbing their hands together in GLEE for the past year.

    She was being set up for a BIG FALL.

    .

  • Esaul

    C´mon Obama. Stop hiding your poor old white granny in the closet.

    We know you are mixed and we don’t mind.

  • Kurt Eric Munroe

    Someone above said that Obama wasn’t “realist” enough. Thank God he isn’t a realist. Realist is not the same as realistic. To be a realist generally means that you hold a certain ideological perspective about international affairs, foreign policy, and the international system that is different from another prominent ideological camp called liberalism. Social scientists use many tricky tricky words. Just some friendly information.

    Regarding Obama’s social policies (someone mentioned affirmative action), it is too early in the campaign to get specific on every issue. Campaigns are about pacing yourself and adjusting to your audience. Some issues are national and others are regional. Some issues don’t fit into certain environments and some issues are being taken care of without even mentioning them directly. The skillful can pull this off.

    Obama doesn’t play the race card, like Clinton plays the gender and emotion card, but he is directly addressing the most serious race issues since the birth of American democracy. That is the skill that makes him the master. He is a genius and true American. If he wins, you, I, Obama, and all of America will be making a statement about affirmative action in very very strong terms. However, we will do it with style and integrity. Everything will work out. How do I know this? Because Obama, Iowa, and New Hampshire is proving it now.

  • b

    I think and it is sad at what I am about to say, but, black will now start listening to Mr. Obama because white people are voting for him. Unfortunately for alot of black people they still think white is right.

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