Thursday, January 17th, 2008
It Doesn’t Look Good for Hillary in South Carolina
Posted by Bossip Staff
It doesn’t look good for Hillary Clinton in the South Carolina primary race. More and more Black people are coming to their senses and supporting Obama because he is the ‘best candidate’ for change and a new direction.
Click here to read an interesting article on Obama’s surge in support in South Carolina.
Why do these civil rights era negroes want three decades of the Bush and Clinton families? Dr. King wouldn’t be supporting that sh*t.
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Here we go again!
**Ducks**
Obama supporters are growing…I’m really afraid he’s being set up to fail…I hope I’m wrong…
@Afiya…i was thinking the same thing. I hope we are both wrong..
Obama is my boy! I hope he wins and kicks ***** as president!
Bossip can’t get enough of the political tirades.
not another day of the bull*****
THANK YA JESUS! Failure is not an option.
Bossip, we don’t know what Dr. King would or wouldn’t be supporting…cool out.
And is it just me, or does it look like one of those women is about to throw her drawls up on the stage!!!???
Why do those women in the front row look like they about to throw their big drawz at Obama or something
@C-GABI, U r rite, we don’t know what Dr. King would be supporting, but we as a people need to support each other. Im not saying Obama is the best candidate, but I do believe that he is the strongest and we should lend our support to him. Politicians as a whole say what they think we want to hear for our vote at election time, but I think Obama will hear and understand our cries even after the election. We need a change. If Hillary wins it will be BUSH/CLINTON/CLINTON/BUSH/BUSH/CLINTON. We need something different, we live in a different time now.
GO OBAMA
Bossip how do you know who DR. King would support! “I have a dream they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”. Which means Obama shouldn’t be judged b/c hes black, only for his abilities. He fought so Obama would have the oppurtunity to run fot prez. Dr. King would vote for the best person for the job.
Kiss and make up time.
Bob Johnson’s apology to Sen. Barack Obama, from CNN.
“Dear Barack,
I’m writing to apologize to you and your family personally for the un-called-for comments I made at a recent Clinton event. In my zeal to support Senator Clinton, I made some very inappropriate remarks for which I am truly sorry. I hope that you will accept this apology. Good luck on the campaign trail.
Warm regards,
Bob Johnson”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/17/clinton-supporter-apologizes-for-obama-comments/
Please,please,pleeeeze send the Clintons into RETIREMENT homie.
DEANNA FAVRE
In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting QB for the Packers this coming Sunday. Deanna *****erts that she is qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this period of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner blitz, and is now completely comfortable with other terminology of the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of those polled supported the move.
Does this sounds idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of democrats polled agreed. She has never run a City, County, or State.
When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in the white
house, ***** Morris stated, “So has the pastry chef”.
It’s about dang time. Some of us are now seeing the light. There is finally a viable black candidate of substance and most of us were afraid to vote for him because we didn’t think he could win over white folks. That’s not what it’s about people. We SHOULD vote for the candidate whom we believe best represents our interests.
I still have my doubts that Obama will win the presidency; however, I am voting for the man because I think he is the best candidate running and agree with most of his platform issues. And, it certainly doesn’t hurt that he looks like me…AMEN!!!
GO OBAMA! Shame on some of you brain washed coons who won’t even consider giving Obama a chance. You are free to choose who you want, but to hear all of the division amongst you “modern day slaves” kills me. Here is an intellectual BLACK man who’s married to a BLACK woman who has HOPE for change. And you got Hillary using HOUSE *****S to get her message across.
Why don’t yall stay yall non supporting ***** up outta this post.
LOOK. OBAMA IS NOT THE ONLY ***** RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT
ALAN KEYES &CYNTHIA MCKINNEY ARE BOTH RUNNING. LISTEN UP MY BLACK PEOPLE, LIKE DOCTOR KING JUDGE NOT MY THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN BUT THE CONTENTS OF THEIR CHARACTER IN ESSENCE CHOOSE A CANDIDATE THAT IS BEST FOR THE COUNTRY AND MOST EXPERIENCE. SINCE WE BLACK FOLKS ARE ABOUT CHOOSING OUR KIND
I SAY THIS ***** OBAMA……..HE’S A HALF ***** I AM VOTING FOR EITHER CYNTHIA MCKINNEY (CUZ WE NEED A SISTAH IN THE WHITE HOUSE) OR ALAN KEYES
ONCE AGAIN ***** OBAMA OSAMA HUSSIEN BARACK TERRORIST ***** HALF-***** ONE DROP RULE DOESNT APPLY TO *****. WTF AS HE EVER DONE FOR US CHICAGOANS? NOT A DAMN THANG, AND NOW HIS IGNORANT IN EXPERIENCE ***** THINK HE CAN RUN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WAKE UP DO YOU REALLY WANT THE HALF ***** VERSION OF GEORGE BUSH. OBAMA SAID HE WILL SURROUND PEOPLE WITH EXPERIENCE SINCE HE LACKS ONCE HE’S ELECTED PRETTY MUCH HE’S INCAPABLE OF DOING ***** HIMSELF. RIDICULOUS IF HE GETS ELECTED
CYNTHIA MCKINNEY OR ALAN KEYES IN ‘08
ILL PUT ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD THAT IF OBAMA THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION, HE WILL LOSE TO WUTEVER REPUBLICAN IS IN OFFICE, CUZ HES BLACK. EVEN IF HE’S THE ‘BEST CANDIDATE’ WHITE PPL ARENT READY 4 A BLACK PRESIDENT, TRUST ME. THE PPL THAT RUN WASHINGTON DC HAS FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WERE FORMER SLAVE OWNERS. THEY RIG ELECTIONS ALL THE *****ING TIME, (GEORGE BUSH JR, ANYONE?). OBAMA WOULDNT STAND A CHANCE. OBAMA WOULD ONLY WIN THE PRESIDENCY IF THE MINORITY BECAME THE MAJORITY. IF OBAMA WINS THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE, PREPARE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. THAT’S WHY MY VOTE IS GOIN 2 HILARY
***** BARRACK SADDAM HUSSEIN OSAMA OBAMA.
HE AINT EVEN FULL *****. CYNTHIA MCKINNEY IN ‘08
It didn’t look good for her in New Hampshire either. She was supposed to loose by double digits and winded up winning. Second bossip you seriously need to hop off and stop posting this PROPOGANDA! You support Obama that’s great but stop shoving it down our throats.
^^^^^You talking about supporting other black candidates with your “***** campaign” but your message can’t even penetrate when all I see is “*****” everywhere. You COON!
Simone…that’s a wonderful *****ogy because that’s exactly how Hillary acquired her so-called experience. By osmosis (near-contact), but not by actual verifiable experience.
Bossip are you supporting Obama only because he’s balck and wants change. I read the write down on why you are on his band wagon but it lacked substance and fact seems like it was written based on emotion and ignorance due to Skin color. We should be looking for Obama to help America and not just black people…
If Obama does not win and Hillary does, does that mean you will not vote…all this hype and and talking harsh words about those that support hillary.. where in the end you just might end up supporting her anyways ….WHAT THEN
Obama and Hillary on on the same side, maybe different views but the same side non the less.
400+ years of enslavement….it’s probably take another 400 to get some of yall minds right. Willie Lynch must be laughing and having a drink some where.
What’s wrong with blacks in America? Cant you just for once be smart enough to back someone of your own colour regardless of whether you think they are going to win or not? 2008 and you are still jealous of one another for goodness’ sake politicians are all the same and they can lie to you all they like so Obama is not a bad choice! Be rid of that slave mentality for once and show some unity! Shame on you. Here in Britain we do not even know when the opportunity will come for us to to be able to elect a black prime minister maybe another century. You have a chance to put your own on the world stage and yet you are not even willing to do so! Wake up and stop that woman and her w***** of a husband from going into the white house again!
I’m actually tired of these biased Obama posts so I don’t know why I clicked on this one. I’m out.
I see Obama as a HUMAN! That’s all.
Thank you Stella
Obama is a joke. A media w*****, and a joke.
Stella- that’s the damn problem why the hell are we voting for him if he might not be the best
Just cause he’s black?? if that’s the case i hope Britian never gets a chance to vote in a black prime minister.
America has too much at stake to be voting for someone based on Skin color. I’m happy he’s running that’s great. winning is different…the race is not even almost over.
*****ODY WANTS A REPUBLICAN IN OFFICE BUT EVEN THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES WANT OBAMA TO WIN CUZ THEY KNOW THAT IF HE WINS THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE, THEY’LL WIN THE PRESIDENCY. IF THEY WERE AGAINST HILARY IT WOULD BE MORE OF A FIGHT. IF THESE PPL WERE WILLING TO FULLY SCREW AL GORE AND JOHN KERRY, UR TELLING ME THAT THEY WOULDNT SCREW A BLACK MAN? GET THE ***** OUTTA HERE. HILARY HAS A BETTER CHANCE, ATLEAST SHES WHITE. I DONT CARE WUT PPL SAY, RACISM IS STILL STRONG IN THIS COUNTRY AND I GUARANTEE, THE GOV’T WOULDNT ALLOW 4 A BLACK PRESIDENT. PLUS NOT ALL MINORITIES EVEN VOTE AND ONES THAT DO WOULD HAVE THEIR BALLOTS ‘LOST’ ALL OF A SUDDEN. U GUYS DON’T SEEM 2 UNDERSTAND HOW UNDERHANDED THESE PPL ARE. U VOTE 4 OBAMA, PREPARE FOR JOHN MCCAIN OR MITT ROMNEY AS UR NEW PREZ.
Obama is for everyone, especially us every day folks. People who are wondering where there next dollar is coming from and how to stay afloat. Not those big veined blue blood who don’t give a HOT ***** about your poor *****. YES you POOR! Some blacks swear they the ***** with the little bit you have. You think the rich politicians give a ***** about you? The crime that goes on in black/latino neighborhoods? The constant everyday slaughtering of OUR OWN by OUR OWN? Black people in this country…YOUR FREAKIN OPINION DON’T EVEN REALLY COUNT TO THEM! YOU ARE ***** TO THEM!
Obama, in my opinion however, is here to help EVERYONE. Not just blacks, whites, etc. I don’t completely trust any politician but dammit it’s time for change.
The old school civil rights era folks are too caught up in their desire for more personal power to think about the greater good. they don’t want to risk alientating the Clinton Machine. Real short-sighted.
WHOA! I HONESTLY THINK THERE ARE SOME WHITE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE SOME OF THE STUFF IAM READING ARE BY BLACK PEOPLE, IT WOULD BE TRAGIC IF THIS WERE SO.
PS; YOU ARE WELCOME.
So what…you think they gonna let a WOMAN win the presidency? ***** she done showed her emotion already crying and *****? What’s she gonna do when she gets a hot flash! Even if there is no chance for the Democratic party to win, I’ll take my chances with OBAMA.
Kudos to OLA…Speak on it because *****ody seems to understand, ya’ll forgtting that it’s not Obama against Hill but Obama against EVERYONE…if he win’s i’ll be shocked and amazed if he’s doesn’t get *****inated (i’m talking real talk)
HOTSAUCE!! I BELIEVE YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER LOSER IN THIS WORLD SO PLEASE GO AND SORT YOUR LIFE OUT. pLEASE DO NOT BOTHER RESPONDING BECAUSE I SHALL IGNORE ANY MORE REMARKS FROM YOU.
I hope that everyone (whoever you vote) will take the time to RESEARCH these candidates, I am not talking about listening to what they are saying, NO actually going to a site and SEE what these people vote for and against,that’s what’s important not if he’s black, she’s white or female its much more at stake, and BLACKS need to stop worrying about what kind of free programs they can get, and see what these people are for. Really I am not voting for either one. and thats just my opinion
Stella- LMAO!!!!
wuz he about to strip? cause those brawds, especially #’s 1,3,4 from the left, look like they have some dollar bills – but check out dude behind chic #4 – you know that’s her husband and he’s ice grilling obama deep!
looks like a bunch of groupies in the front row of that pic.
if you think MLK Jr. was getting a gang of ***** thrown at him, i bet Barry O is getting more panties thrown his way than hate mail.
let’s hope he doesn’t get **********inated on live TV during his swearing in because then he’ll be the new 9/11.
God bless America.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Edwards has a surprise win. I’m told that his Joe Everyman/Working People’s Savior shtick goes over very well in that region. I don’t for a second think Edwards is going to win the democratic presidential ticket, but still…
Middle and lower cl***** people have loved that whole BS *****le oblige damn near socialist thing. Haven’t seen anyone other than the various Kennedy’s perfect that act in my lifetime.
coming to their senses is right. I can’t believe negroes was down to support her in the first damned place. SHE IS NOT BILL.
Oh, P.S.: I’m not picking on just Edwards. He’s my target of the day. If you’re in the higher level of politrics, you’ve done more than a lifetime’s worth of shady *****. How do you think people win elections?
This is coming from my experience interning for my very Jekyll and Hyde senator.
@ OlA
Actually dumb***** the Republicans were scared *****less when it looked like Obama was running away with the nomination. Obama draws 48 percent of independents compared to Hillary’s 15. This is on top of the fact that Obama brings more unregistered voters into the political process. OBAMA WOULD MOST DEFINITELY BEAT ANY REPUBLICAN. Polls suggests this and they often under poll the black community and the college vote- Obama’s two biggest voting blocs!
Additionally Hillary Clinton is hated by 50 percent of America. That is a fact her unfavorables are 50 percent nationally and even higher in swing states. Hillary Clinton can not possibly win. She will win every state Kerry won and lose every state he loss. THis is why the democratic establishment (Kerry, Leah, McCaskill) are not pulling for Obama.
Furthermore Clinton on top of the ticket would endanger democratic seats in swing states where people will hit the polls with no other motivation than to vote against her and end up voting against the dems running for Congress, *****embly, and Governships while they are at it.
So tired of uneducated dumb*****es spouting off. At least do a google search before you come with your unfounded bull*****.
Martin Luther King jr Was A REPUBLICAN
it was the Democrats who fought to keep blacks in slavery and p*****ed the discriminatory Black Codes and Jim Crow laws. The Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan to lynch and terrorize blacks. The Democrats fought to prevent the p*****age of every civil rights law beginning with the civil rights laws of the 1860’s, and continuing with the civil rights laws of the 1950’s and 1960’s.”
Dirty little secret folks…it was democrats in congress that mostly voted against the civil rights bill… one of them being john f kennedy…
the demcrats of today are using you guys as *****s man….you notice how ever generation minorities keep voting for them and the black struggle never gets any better…
they want to keep black people poor and in need and on welfare so they can keep them as a voting bloc…
its the same thing with the global warming scam…keep people scared and in need of them to fix it…
but the truth is only yo as an individual can fix your own life and you need the government out of it so you can put the power in your own hands…the victim mentality must die and there needs to be a strong movement of individualism in african american communities where they see themselves as a person with goals and aspirations before they see themselves as a stereotype or ethnicit
addendum… Democratic establishment (kerry, leah, McCaskill) are now pulling for Obama.
Kgates dropping science sun! pop off! pop off!
@ kgates
Ho sit down. Everything you’ve described was attributed to the dixie crats a sect of the Democratic party that has been defunct sense Johnson.
If you are implying that the Republican party supports the black community then you need to research, busing, affirmative action, equal oppurtunity employment, gerry mandering, VOTER FRAUD, and sub prime mortgages… to start when you’re done with those I have more for you.
SMH.
AND MARTIN LUTHER KING JR WAS A DEMOCRAT. RESEARCH THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 64.
@kgates I agree i was raised democrat and i now think it was because all the free little handouts they threw to our people, and they ran with it now that i am grown and have started to really get it to this and research i see now that i am more conservative or should i say republican, and not just because , but i saw where democrats are so liberal if they could this country would be just as godless as it could be, gay marriages and all! and this is just my opinion not here to be bashed
@kgates
Republicans of the 60s are not the neocons of today. Check your history! The 70s came and the tide changed that party dramatically. I’m sick of people talking about how these parties were during such and such an era. Republicans of the 80s aren’t even like Republicans now. Lord.
Up until a couple of days ago, I thought Obama would be all about change but he’s not. Take 20 minutes on Monday, January 21st between 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. E/T and watch that debate in South Carolina on CNN. You’ll see how his ideas are so far right that you’d think his speeches were all a front.
You cannot rely on the media for information anymore. Do all the research yourself.
@ tj why are so hostile?
“Why do these civil rights era negroes want three decades of the Bush and Clinton families?”
What civil rights negroes supported Bush????? Bossip really needs to get their facts in order.
@too sexy
There is no problem with voting your interest just don’t try to reconcile those interest with the rest of black America. The Republican party has pandered to the KKK vote for the past 40 years. When johnson signed the civil rights act he said “we’ve (the democratic party) loss the south for a generation” it’s been more like three. Who do you think the KKK votes for, hell who do you think George Bush votes for. There’s a reason for that.
That said your interest seem to be more religiously focused, but know that you’ve suffered from propaganda if you think the democrats want to legalize same sex marriage. None of the presidential candidates support gay marriage. Also Romney, Giulliani and Mccain support civil unions. I’m tired of teaching today.
@tj but what exactly have the democrats done for the blacks?
Obama is the only one who can grab independents and beat McCain. It is so simple people. Only whites in the Democratic party seem to be voting race. People don’t realize the level of extreme hatered for Hillary out there with independents and swing Republicans. I like Hillary enough but Obama seems like the better pick if the Dems want to win the White House. I actually heard my boss (who is white) say that if Obama doesn’t win…he is voting for McCain if he is the GOP nominee. I do think the key is the Latino vote and they tend not to break for Black canidates. I think O needs to work on that and start slugging back when Hill hits him.
Raven
I’ve watched every debate. There are no far right people on the stage. You do realize the far right is where Newt Gingrich and Pat Robertson lie.
I think you are referring to the fact that Obama has a lot of centrists views. But by no means is he conservative.
“Martin Luther King jr Was A REPUBLICAN”
He didn’t define himself that way and his views were hardly conservative. and you are aware Republicans smeared him and labeled him a radical. Republicans were against the civil rights movement in the 60’s and 70’s. Wow such stupidity in the black community.
@tj besides the free programs that have crutched our people from being who they could be instead of being lazy and depending on those programs?
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DONT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THEY AE DEMOCRATES, WHY WOULD THEY SUPPORT OBAMA
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This gay marriage thing is just silly. First, none of the Democratic canidates support gay marriage.
Second, even if they did, so what? Half of Europe has gay marriage and last I check…they are not at war, the Euro is way stonger than the dollar and the continent has not sunk into the 4th level of Hell as far as I can see. I know, I’ve been there.
And why is it that a conservative white can tell me very sensible reasons why they are conservative and vote GOP while all a conservative Black can tell me is that they hate gay marriage. ( I know, My mom is really conservative although she is rolling with O)
@chantell voice your opinion without degrading our race please.
@ too sexy
The democratic party is the party responsible for all modern day inner city programs such as school lunchs, Federal funding for public schools, head start, the voting rights act.
On top of those are many measures that were defeated by republicans such as Health Care, second chance school systems, mandatory independent advising for inner city youth who sign up for military service, End to mininimum sentencing. etc. I could go on for days about bills the republicans have stopped just by looking at Maxine waters’ bills alone.
@tj
TRUST ME THE REPUBLICANS WOULD RATHER FACE OBAMA THEN CLINTON. THE REPUBLICANS WERE ‘SCARED *****LESS’ WHEN AL GORE WAS THE NOMINEE AND TJ WHAT HAPPENED? HE GOT SCREWED. IF THIS COUNTRY WOULD SCREW A WHITE GUY, UR TELLING ME THEY WOULDNT SCREW A *****?? GET THE ***** OUTTA HERE, HILARY HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING, BUT THESE REPUBLICANS JUST HAVE 2 BE STOPPED, SERIOUSLY.
@toosexy
What do gay marriages have to do with sound foreign policies, a strong economy, a healthy populace, a clean environment, and safe streets for our children?
Can you please explain to me why you’d vote for a Republican who wants to ban gay men and women from marriage but creates tax cuts for people making billions of dollars a year? Or who won’t realize that global warming exists as the ice caps continuously melts? Or, as the “humble” Kanye West exclaimed after the Katrina disaster, “doesn’t care about Black people”?
You have a right to hate gays. But when federal bills and amendments are created for domestic policies that treat them like they’re part of Al Qaeda, there’s a serious problem.
tj
@ kgates
Ho sit down. Everything you’ve described was attributed to the dixie crats a sect of the Democratic party that has been defunct sense Johnson.
If you are implying that the Republican party supports the black community then you need to research, busing, affirmative action, equal oppurtunity employment, gerry mandering, VOTER FRAUD, and sub prime mortgages… to start when you’re done with those I have more for you.
SMH.
SUBPRIME MORTAGE IS THE FAULT OF THE PERSON WITH THE MORTGAGES. SO THEY MAKE IT A GOVT PROBLEM. IF YOU MAKE 30,000 A MONTH, YOU CANNOT AFFORD A 500,000 HOUSE
@ too sexy
Are you saying rich white people don’t support Obama because actually he’s their favorite candidate.
Also I’m done talking to you. Some folks are just too lost.
VOTE 4 OBAMA, GET READY 4 McCain *****
Kgates sit down! The GOP changed with Nixon’s southern stategy to appeal to old white dixicrat democrats who were upset over the party’s embrace of civil rights. The fact that the Democratic Party has sacrificed itself to champion civil rights is why I stay with the party. The GOP was the champion of the anti-slavery movement that is why a lot of Blacks voted GOP until Rossevelt (my sp is horrible) and the New Deal in the 30’s. Today’s GOP is a white christian party that is wrong on alot of issues including the war, support for torture and an anti-immigrant policy that just seems un American.
Good point Lost Skeleton
@lost skeleton it matters to me since i serve the almighty oh and here is my reason that makes very good sense to me the conservatives are more in line with what god had for this country and the liberals are taking out of everything how sensible is that ? not much to you since you stated so what about gay marriages, and we are in the last days its no surprise to me that a democratic is going to win because it has to be that way so they can end the war and isreal will be attacked. this presidental campaign is so much more for me I don’t know but obama is to liked praised and he can make the change and save the world, sound familiar
@ tj
“far right” in terms of farther from the left than I originally suspected. I didn’t mean to confuse.
I am totally against gay marriage, aint nothing right about it. if it was the major issue i would vote for whoever against it. gay marriage, gay adoption, that ***** is sick. if you gay and want to parti*****te in such a sick act, dont expect to get rewarded for it. you lucky i am not president i will make that ***** illegal and sentence you to death chamber
“Are you saying rich white people don’t support Obama because actually he’s their favorite candidate.”
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JUST WAIT TIL THE OBAMA VOTES ARE ‘LOST SOMEWHERE’ IN A OHIO or FL. hangin chads anyone? LOL
ost Skeleton
Kgates sit down! The GOP changed with Nixon’s southern stategy to appeal to old white dixicrat democrats who were upset over the party’s embrace of civil rights. The fact that the Democratic Party has sacrificed itself to champion civil rights is why I stay with the party. The GOP was the champion of the anti-slavery movement that is why a lot of Blacks voted GOP until Rossevelt (my sp is horrible) and the New Deal in the 30’s. Today’s GOP is a white christian party that is wrong on alot of issues including the war, support for torture and an anti-immigrant policy that just seems un American.
you dont think its a problem with millions of immigrant sneaking over here every year
@tj if am lost inform me, why quit talking it’s not that serious actually i like to hear diff, views, and i still want to know exactly what have the democrats done for the blacks, and i am not saying they dont support obama but merely saying alot of blacks don’t know why the hell they are democrats that’s all
I loooooove these posts. You get to see all the educated brothas and sistahs who can back up their *****! Regardless of who you are voting for, I can say I am getting educated myself right now.
You obviously don’t know what a subprime mortgage is if you think someone had one for 500,000. How is it my fault if I can’t earn a living wage and fall behind on my bills during an economic recession caused mostly by rich people in the financial sector who were corrupt and overreported gross earnings.
You trying to say a woman working at a grocery store who gets laid off should be blamed for getting laid off. Even if she doesn’t get laid off why should her rates be higher than anyone elses. Such is a subprime mortgage.
Bossip has got to stop the witch hunt on Hillary. Why are people so angry with her? I just don’t get it. I actually think Hillary is better suited for presidency than Obama….but people vote for who they want to vote for. Stop *****g Hillary out though….that’s cl*****less
Rich white democrats love Obama…it is working cl***** whites who favor Clinton. Most of you guys most have never actually talked with a Republican on the race. They hate their canidates and they actully like Obama. The level of hatred for Hillary is crazy. I have never understood that. Hilldog is a loser against McClain. She only inches out a win againts the others because they are so bad. Obama is the only person who gets independent and moderate republican support. If toosexy’s theory actually held water and race mattered, we all would be flocking to John Edwards and the independents really hate him. ( I was a Edwards supporter in 2004)
Kgates-good point with the immigration problem, it’s getting out of hand.
Y’all said that about NEW HAMPSHIRE
@ OLA
His votes won’t be lost.
They’ll be immediately ignored by the electronic Diebold voting machines that Bush paid for during his first term in office.
Americas votes haven’t counted since 1996, son.
For the record in order to truly get anything done or be a productive voter you have to study where you stand on the issues and who stands there with you. I for one am an INDEPENDENT. Right now I’m most concerned about Iraq Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are the only two candidates on a federal level who support withdrawal with a lasting force to combat terrorist cells. I don’t mind a difference of opinion I just don’t like when people give out misinformation like: Martin Luther King was a republican. If you only knew the things Republicans have been doing to black folks Florida 2000 was just the tip of the iceberg.
I’m sorry but I’m not going into the benz dealership w/ my salary and I make what i consider good money for a single person, no child(ren). So when these people are so desperate to but(especially here in NY) a $700k house on a $50K a year salary, they are playing themselves and NO I don’t feel sorry for them.
Go Obama
@lost skeleton race has noting to with this i feel like this is pure phophecy,that’s my logic just look around this place america is in shambles look at the euro countries *****embling their own united thing, and its like am i the only one who sees whats really going on WAKE UP NO MATTER WHO WINS ITS TIME TO PICK WHERE YOU GOING AND FAST!
tj
You obviously don’t know what a subprime mortgage is if you think someone had one for 500,000. How is it my fault if I can’t earn a living wage and fall behind on my bills during an economic recession caused mostly by rich people in the financial sector who were corrupt and overreported gross earnings.
You trying to say a woman working at a grocery store who gets laid off should be blamed for getting laid off. Even if she doesn’t get laid off why should her rates be higher than anyone elses. Such is a subprime mortgage.
i just dont have sympathy for this. I understand people have heard times but, if you sign up for a mortgage that you know will take over 60% of your monthly income that is stupid AND INSANCE. I have a brother who makes 35,000 and year adn his wife about 12,000. HIs house note is 2700 in ATL. He can’t afford a car adn he spends all his hard earned money on his house. I hope he dont have a adjustable rate, if so he is *****ed. thats my brother adn when he cals for helf i am there, but it was his fault to get stuck in a contract like that when youcannt afford.
this is another problem. this is why the black community is *****ed up. You who get out of college and think you too good to move back to your old community where houses are cheaper and would probobly be a good investment for you. but no you decide to move to a 98% white area where no one knows who you are.
I know why I am a democrat. I vote for more than just race. They are right on the issues that REALLY matter to me. Like education (reasonable student loans with low interest rates for everyone to afford), reasonable tax policy, responsible government (so we will not let people drown from a hurricane), responsible foreign policy (finishing the job finding Osama and not starting another war of choice with Iran like we did with Iraq). These are the things I can about. Gay marriage means nothing to me but who am I too they Adam and Steve what to do with their lives. I have to worry about my wife and kids and my household, not some elses.
I can’t sit back and vote against issues that directly inpact me just because my preacher is disgusted with some lifestyle that I know nothing about nor do I care. We have to wake up people. Worrying about gay marriage got us W. Bush who gave us a *****ty economy, a costly war of choice, Osama still running around planning attacks, the hatred and mistrust of the rest of the world, black folk drowning in New Orleans, a unrepaired New Orleans, a country that has to get on its knees and beg like a dog for money to bail out is banks. A country which has to suck the ***** of the China to fund a costly and useless war. Yeah, i know why I am a Democrat!
AND THEIR NOT WRONG FOR THAT WAR , WE ARE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT ISREAL READ THE BIBLE THOSE WHO CURSE THEM WILL BE CURSED AND THE LORD BLESSED THE US, AND NOW LOOK WE ARE BEING OVERWHELMED BY LIBERALS WHO ARE TAKING GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING THE SCHOOLS LOOK NOW AT THE KILLINGS IN SCHOOL, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE MONEY, THE FEDERAL COURT BUIDINGS I AM GOING TO VOTE BUT RIGHT NOW I AM TRYING TO GET RIGHT NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!
@LOST SKELETON BOTH HILARY AND OBAMA ARE AGAINGST SCHOOL VOUCHERS WHICH HELPED ME TO MOVE MY KIDS TO A BETTER SCHOOL WHERE I CAN NOW TELL JUST HOW MUCH THEY WERE NOT BEING TAUGHT!
@LOST ALSO THAT’S THE PROMBLEM NOONE CARES WHAT IF YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER CAME UP GAY WOULD YOU CARE THEN?
EVERONE SHOULD GO TO OBAMA’S SITE AND DOWNLOAD HIS PLAN FOR AMERICA AND READ IT THOROUGHLY. HE HAS GOOD SOUND IDEAS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS COUNTRY!!!
george bush is not a smart person but he did do one GENIUS thing in that war. We have been going at Iraq for years because they were the worlds number one supplier of oil. george has made them
obselete. they are now down to number 5 in oil output. with canada climbing its way up in the next couple years. this war was poorly planned but i understand what they were trying to do. Iraq was a *****hole to deal with and we had to put them in their place. so with us doing so, it will make the world stable to be able to depend on that region without kissing ***** for oil
toosexy. The bible tells us that you can’t worry about the rapture because you do not know when its coming. As long as you stay faithful, everything else should not matter. We are not supposed to weap for the the second coming anyway. That said, this country was built on the seperation of church and state and I have learned to render onto Ceaser what is Ceasers. The Dems are on the right side of my kitchen-table issues and they involve more than worrying about an issue gays and lesbians don’t even worry about.
That said…gay adoption is here and if you are going to allow gay adoption…it only makes sense to allow a system to decide custody and health care for those children.
We got to get over thi people. Homosexuality has been in the world for along time and there isn’t anything you can do about so you might as well worry about the issues you can do something about.
@lost skeleton it matters to me since i serve the almighty oh and here is my reason that makes very good sense to me the conservatives are more in line with what god had for this country and the liberals are taking out of everything how sensible is that ? not much to you since you stated so what about gay marriages, and we are in the last days its no surprise to me that a democratic is going to win because it has to be that way so they can end the war and isreal will be attacked. this presidental campaign is so much more for me I don’t know but obama is to liked praised and he can make the change and save the world, sound familiar
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This is way far out there.
Are you saying Jesus would support invading Iraq and killing people for no good reason. Wasn’t it Jesus who said to feed the hungry, help the sick, and cherish the children? Well why do the republicans continue to block universal healthcare, Aids initiatives, Food stamps, and early childhood education? That’s the christian party. There’s a difference between being the party for christianity and simply being the party that is against abortion and gay marriage.
(BTW no one supports abortion and few support gay marriage. Abortion has more to do with a woman’s right not to be forced to do anything with her body including having a baby. Check Roe v Wade. Gay marriage is a non issue. Republicans used it to rile up votes in 04 but there has never been one single bill introduced to create gay marriage)
Whether you support BO or not, you should read his book, “The Audacity of Hope”.
@LOST WHEN OUR FATHERS WROTE THAT THEY WERE ALL CHRISTIANS THEY DIDN’T MEAN TAKE THE CHURCH OUT OF THE STATE I CAN’T REALLY EXPLAIN BUT IF THEY ONLY KNEW HOW THIS COUNTRY WOULD HAVE TURNED OUT. research and let me know if i am correct i loved history in school, those men were all christians and this nation was built on that, that’s the promblen no one cares about what the lord said anymore you need to start worrying you have kids and i am not worrying about the rapture i am worrying about all these people who are blind the lord said his people shall know the time , he gave the signs and pretty good with the bible!
I want to reiterate the marriage ban was just to get evangelicals to the polls. Gay marriage is not legal when it does become legal and it will it will be because of supreme court interpretation of the 10th amendment. Or ironically, a repealing of BILL CLINTON’S defense of marriage act which bans gay civil contracts of all kinds from translating from state to state.
@toosexy
I would ask you to provide a quote from the Bible that states that gays should rot in hell for all eternity, or, to the very least, that they shouldn’t get the same rights everyone else does.
But that would spark another debate that’ll never be resolved.
I do have to ask, if you are so afraid that the human race and the world as we know it is doomed, why do you support Republicans who continue to abuse and neglect the environment like a ***** child? Is this earth not as important as condemning gays?
Or Republicans who are so believers in Jesus Christ and his Word yet neglected the victims of Hurricane Katrina and the refugees and prisoners in Darfur?
There’s a difference between saying you’re a follower and being a follower. None of todays Republicans in power are the kind of believers that should be running America or else they’ll run us into the ground.
I don’t care if my son and daughter was born gay. At least I know they will be highly organized, have great taste in fashion and have good credit (joke). I am not bias against anyone for their sexual preference so no, it wouldn’t bother me. As long as they are good people, I think they would be okay.
I also failed to address the border issue. I find it disturbing that we have so many illegals but most are coming here to work and you can’t blame them for that. I am for a stronger border policy but you just can’t deport folks who have kids here. We have to find a sensible way to do*****ent these people why closing our border. I thought W and McCain was at least right on that. i liked Huckabee’s answer in the debate about how America is better for not deporting people who are just here to work but he turned me off when he started pandering. Yes, I am not for open borders because we got to know where these people came from but I do think we need to think about m***** deportation which flat out doesn’t work.
Serious Sister
EVERONE SHOULD GO TO OBAMA’S SITE AND DOWNLOAD HIS PLAN FOR AMERICA AND READ IT THOROUGHLY. HE HAS GOOD SOUND IDEAS THAT MAKE SENSE FOR THIS COUNTRY!!!
i dont want to read one of his pep talks. He is a good speaker but he has no power and athority to back him up. people dont understand. every canidate who ever ran for president had alot of big promises. but the truth be told, they cant change nothing. he world has old Jewish family pullingn the strings for years and a president cant change it. whats the saying in sports, the game dont change, just the players and the coaches. i dont understnad people complain with the clintons, because bill was one of the best president we had. we were out of debt and the country was safe and secure. thats all the president is there for. He is not their when you cant pay your mortgage, he is not there to cut your student loan interest, he is not their to fix up “YOUR” neighborhood and also not their to make sure you kids go to school. All these are your problem where you have the capibility to fix theses\
@ too sexy
Were the forefathers reading their bible when they were beating your great great great great great grandfather and raping your great great great great great grandmother? If the forefathers were to be completely trusted with our destinies than you need to go sign up for a white man’s plantation.
@tj god lead people into war (MANY TIMES)HE ALSO DESTROYED CITIES FOR THEIR SIN(HOMOSEXUALITY MENTIONED)in the bible god is also a wrathful god, and yes those people are against his people they don’t believe IN JESUS(ONLY THE LIVING GOD) why do you think their at war god is real and that war over their is real and let me tell you god spoke that this would happen this is just not happening BUSH HAS NO CONTROL GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL AND THAT WAR WAS SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
Lost Skeleton
I don’t care if my son and daughter was born gay
i see why you name is LOST SKELETON because you are LOST with some skeletons in your closet. You wouldnt care if your child was gay. so if you could change it you wouldnt like this ***** is normal. You wouldnt try to teach them what is right so their life would be easier, by male or female cause there aint no in between
Raven:
Or Republicans who are so believers in Jesus Christ and his Word yet neglected the victims of Hurricane Katrina and the refugees and prisoners in Darfur?
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Preach! And let’s not forget the Aids epidemic they let fester in the 80’s, and the numerous attempts at Healthcare they have blocked. Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell etc have fooled people into believing they can be selfish judgemental American supremacists and still be christians and they have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
too sexy. you have to read about those founding white guys. Although they were Christian, few of them were Evanglical (sp sucks..sorry) and Thomas Jefferson even wrote his own bible and openly discounted the Book of Relevation, which he doubted was a actual book that belonged in the bible. He and Ben Franklin openly agreed in the total seperation of church and state because England used the King James Bible to justify alot of Englands policy that the colonist rebelled against. They wanted to prevent that from happening here. If you want prayer, go to a Christian school but the Constitution forbids the endorsement of any relegion. I mean, Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world. Would you feel comfortable with Constitutional case law that would allow Islamists to institute Shia law into the U.S. I think not. religion can play a healthy part in out lives but it does not mean we have to make it a part of everyones lives. This country has pospered on that premise.
Yo, is that Vanessa Williams (from tv’s ‘Soul Food’) in the center of that pic? Damn, there are some fine-@ss females in that crowd! The chick behind the Vanessa Williams chick/look-a-like looks yummy, too. Man! Maybe I need to volunteer for the Obama campaign…
No wonder his wife travels with him! I’m sure HE’S honorable, but some of those chicks…some of them look like they’re in an audience at Chippendales!
too sexy you are crazy. You just advocated the killing of Iraques because they are muslim. You are just as bad as the muslim extremist who advocate the killing of Americans because they are Christian. This whole God said it would happen thing occurs in the Quran too it’s called a Jihad.
@RAVEN BABY I DIDN’T SAY THEY WOULD ROT GOD LOVES ALL HIS PEOPLE BUT HE WON;T FORCE HIMSELF ON YOU,BUT ANYWAY I MEAN AS TO THESE PEOPLE LETTING OUR CHILDREN THINK THIS BEHAVIOR IS OK, INSTEAD OF SAYING YOU CAN BE HEALE FROM THIS I AM 28 AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY KIDS WALKING AROUND GAY AND THEIR PARENTS AND SOCIETY ACT LIKE ITS IS A OK, AND ITS NOT, I AM NOT PERFECT , RAVEN WHAT DO YOU THINK THE WORLD IS IN THEN WITH MOTHERS KILLING THIER CHILDREN AND VICE VERSA LIKE NEVER BEFORE AND THE SEASONS RUNNIGN INTO EACH OTHER DO REALLY THINK YOU WILL BE HER FOREVER DEBATING ABOUT REP, AND DEM. I REALLY DIN’T WANT TO GET INTO IT UNTIL I WAS COMPELLED TO AFTER BEING ASKED MY REAL REASONS BEHING BEING CONSERVATIVE, ANYWAY I LOVE ALL PEOPLE I JUST WISH WE WOULD WAKE UP, ALSO I WAS ON PEREZ AND NOW I SEE HOW HELL WILL BE FILLED I USTA THINK LORD IF WE STRIVING TO DO RIGHT THEN HOW WILL HELL BE FILLED OH MY UNTIL I READ PEREZ NOW I KNOW JUST LIKE GOD HAS HIS PEOLE THE DEVIL DOES TO AND THEY TALK ABOUT GOD SO BAD CALLING HIM DOUCHE BAGS TELLING SOME TO GO ***** THEIR GOD, BUT ANYWAY IM THRU WITH THIS,BUT I DIDNT MEANT OFFEND ANYONE JUST GOOD CON. BUT FOREAL EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND CONFESS TO THE ALMIGHTY!
I don’t hate gays. And no, just because I went so school and work with good people who happened to sleep with members of their own sex does not make me gay. That is the most childish rebut I have heard. Although it is none of your business, I have a very loving wife. We both have friends and good co-workers who are gay and they do not make my Blackness an issue so why should i be a hypocrite and make their homosexuality an issue. My wife and I are concerned with the economic posperity of our children and whether we (and them) will have social security, a peaceful society and a posperous and educated Black community. That is what is important to me.
tj
Raven:
Or Republicans who are so believers in Jesus Christ and his Word yet neglected the victims of Hurricane Katrina and the refugees and prisoners in Darfur?
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Preach! And let’s not forget the Aids epidemic they let fester in the 80’s, and the numerous attempts at Healthcare they have blocked.
the health care plans the tried to p***** was stupid. The last one Geogre bush blocked was good. How do you want to give free heath to people who make $60,000 or under. so what are people doing with all they money. giving people something for free is not making them responsible. and bush main commet for blocking was that he didnt want people to slip through. He told people if they have a health issue they can go to the emergency room like everyone else but dont expect to run and make a doctor appointment and expect govt me foot the bill. you can go to any emergency room now and they will see you. I have paid my own health insurance since i was 21 and i pay $118 dollar a month. Is that to much to pay, no, but the ones who are complaining will pay their car insurance on numerous car. so ***** that NO FREE HEALTH CARE
@TJ SOME PEOPLE ARE EVIL DON’T GET MAD READ GOD SAID THESE COUNTRIES WILL SURROND HER(ISREAL) i THINK RUSSIA IRAQ AND EUROPE AND HE SAYS THAT HE WILL LEAVE BONES AND BLOOD BASICALLY AND THAT’S WHY THE US WILL PULL OUT BECAUSE GOD SAID THEY WILL KNOW THAT IT IS ME, MEANING THAT PULLING OUT OF IRAQ IS EVIDENT BECAUSE ITS’ WRITTEN JUST WAIT AND SEE OR READ IT AND HIT ME UP TOMMOROW!
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DONT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK THEY AE DEMOCRATES, WHY WOULD THEY SUPPORT OBAMA
hell no, trying to trick us
ALL PEOPLE WANT TO SAY IS GOD IS LOVING YES HE IS BUT HE IS SO MUCH MORE, AND HE CAN BE AN ANGRY GOD AND WRATHFUL. I DON’T WANT ANYBODY KILLED BUT SIN ENTERED THIS WORLD THAT IS FACT AND THE DEVIL IS JUST AS REAL AS THE ALMIGHTY!
@toosexy
I couldn’t really understand that last bit. But all I’m saying is that if you are so worried about the fate of this world and afraid of what’s going to happen to us, then I think you should see that the President of the U.S., the most powerful nation on Earth (at least until China takes over that slot) does have a serious impact on what’s to come for us and our children.
Even if fate has been decided, wouldn’t you like to know that when you go into the box to vote for President this Fall, that you’re not voting for a man who won’t help your kids get into college, who doesn’t care if you never receive Social Security when you retire, or, once again, doesn’t think the polar ice caps melting and rapidly changing our planet’s climate is as serious as it really is.
The future is at stake. If God had it in mind for the U.S. leader to destroy us, then so be it. But I don’t want to be a part of it, and I hope you won’t either.
BLACK PEOPLE CHILL OUT! DON’T BE AFRAID. OBAMA CAN WILL THE PRESIDENCY. HE CAN DEFEAT THAT CRUSTY OLD MCCAIN. WHO WANTS TO STAY IN IRAQ FOR A HUNDRED YEARS? BUSH HAS *****ED UP THIS COUNTRY. IT’S A PERFECT STORM FOR OBAMA. HE’S GETTING ENDORSEMENTS FROM SENATORS AND GOVERNORS. WE NEED FAITH NOT FEAR!
ANYWAY THEIR ARE CHIPS NOW BEING TESTED TO GO IN THE ARMS OF PEOPLE ALSO A ONE WORLD GOVERMENT IS COMING BE WATCHFUL AND CONSCIENCE OF WHAT’S GOING ON WHAT ABOUT THE FAMINE GOD SPOKE ABOUT TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY BUT ITS JUST COINCIDENCE HOW OUR FOOD IS MORE UNSAFE THAN EVER NOW/ i MEAN I JUST KEEP MY EYES OPEN AND READ THAT BIBLE IT TELLS ALL THAT’S WHY I AM SO FIXATED ON THE RACE, READ READ READ READ, ALSO CHECK OUT THIS BOOK CALLED LEFT BEHIND IT DETAILS EVERYTHING GOING ON THE WAR THE PRESIDENT TO COME WHICH IN THE BOOK IT SAYS IT WILL BE DEMOCRATS JUST SO THAT ARMY WILL BE PULLED OUT AND EVERYONE WILL SEE THE LORD MIGHT HE SAID BRIMSTONE SHALL COME UPON THEM THEY ARE ALREADY BUILDING HIS TEMPLE BACK OVER THERE YOU BETTER PAY ATTENTION, IN THE BIBLE HE SPOKE ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT SHALL BE DONE INCLUDING REBUILDING OF THAT TEMPLE ALSO A CERTAIN KIND OF FABRIC THAT WAS USED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT THAT THEY HAVE FOUND AGAIN I HAVE TO WORK NOW GOTTA GO LOVE YOU ALL AND BE BLESSED TILL I RETURN HOLLA
@RAVEN THEN I MUST GO, I WILL VOTE FOR WHO I THINK IS IN LINE WITH GOD’S VIEWS, AND SINCE I SERVE A MIGHTY GOD I KNOW THAT GOD CAN DO ALL YOU JUST MENTIONED AND MORE NO MAN IS GREATER THAN HE THAT IS IN YOU! SO i AM REALLY GLAD EVERYONE IS VOTING IT SEEMS LIKE MORE OF US ARE REALLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE BUT DON’T GET LOST THAT’S ALL I AM SAYING. OH SORRY ABOUT THE LAST ONE I WAS TYPING FASTER MY TIME IS TRULY UP I HAVE TO START WORKING UNLESS WE SLOW DOWN A BIT AFTERWHILE
Well Obama was “ahead” in New Hampshire and look how that turned out!
I mean we won’t know how good he does until the primary is over. If he is declared the winner, then he has more support.
The “Bradley” effect is in effect.
OBAMA 2008!!!
toosexy
You are very brain washed with your slave religion. You sound liek you are about to do a sermon, but yet your username is “toosexy?” I’m not saying you should post as “Mary mother of Jesus” but you don’t make no sense. You seem very judgeful of others but you should worry about the way you live YOUR life and how you raise YOUR child(ren).
I’m not for gays/lesbians either, but not because what the bible says, but because they don’t make any sense to me. And if they were to be placed on a desert isle they would surely die off because they cannot reproduce.
Anyhoo, remember, in the eyes of YOUR God, SIN IS SIN. So having premarital sex is ugly in the sight of GOD as well….just5 in case you’re not married…..*wink wink*
toosexy reads the Left Behind books! Damn, forces of darkness we can’t reach her. Let’s continue planning our UN government and maybe she will not notice (too sexy just joking). Does God mind that your hook is toosexy? (I’m sorry, just fooling with ya)
Not that anyone cares. But Lost Skeleton is my username at Aintitcoolnews.com A movie site run by Harry Knowles that gives you all the latest news on upcoming flicks. It refers to this movie satire on B movies that only film geeks would know (The Lost Skeleton of Cardavia) I can see how it could be turned around by those with dirty minds (LOL)
…anyone notice the woman in the front and how she is looking a Obama? Like she’s about to throw her panties on stage…
@WHOA I AM NOT BEING JUDGEMENTAL AT ALL HOW YOU GOT THAT I DON’T KNOW,BUT I AM NOT ,I THINK I STATED I WASN’T PERFECT BUT THE DIFF, IS I CAN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND STRIVE TO DO BETTER WITHOUT JUSTIFICATING MY SINS,YOU UNDERSTAND ,NO ONE IS SINLESS SWEETY, EVEN YOUR PASTORS,BUT ITS STRIVING TO BE WHAT GOD WHAT ‘S YOU TO BE, EX, IF YOU ARE HAVING PREMATRUAL SEX PRAY AND ASK GOD TO HELP UP NOT- OH ITS OK , GOD LOVES ME , AND HE DOES BUT HE CLEARLY STATED THIS WAS WRONG DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW,I COULN’T JUDGE ANYONE THAT’S TO HARD I WILL LET HIM DO THAT I AM IN NO POSITION, BUT I AM ENLIGHTED TO KNOW GOD CAN FIX ANYTHING WHEN THEY WERE ABOUT TO STONE THE ADULTER GOD SAID LET THE FIRST ONE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE AND NOONE DID, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BUT HE SAID SIN NO MORE THAT’S WHAT I MEAN WE ARE NOT PERFECT BUT WE CAN STRIVE TO BE WHAT HE WANTS FROM US INSTEAD OF LETTING SOCIETY TELL US EVERTHING IS OK THAT’S ALL AND YES I DO PLAN ON PREACHING ONE DAY AND I AM MARRIED
Well I’m glad to hear you are married and regardless of the fact that I disagree with your views, I will respect them.
I guess if I read the Bible, I’d be psychic and omniscient too. But I’d like to actually know what’s going on in the real world. How dumb of me.
@ KGATES
That meritocratic ideology is why there is so many problems with this country, I think. Race, gender, disability, education, all of these factor into a person’s ability to succeed. And the American Dream is harder to come by when it’s becoming increasingly hard to find a good free education or a well-paying job or good health insurance.
How is someone supposed to even pay $118 a month for their health insurance when they earn $200 a week? And you’re speaking about universal health insurance like it’s not vital enough for each human being. This country will not be in an even deeper deficit if the government supplies its citizens with health care. It’s widespread in Europe and Canada, both regions doing pretty well for themselves. Why not America?
This is partly what turned me off from Obama. He’s interested in only child universal health care. The rest of us still have to fend for ourselves.
Bossip you have no clue as to what MLK would want, so you might want to refrain from speaking for him lest your ignorance become more widely know. Obama is a great guy, but that does not make him a great candidate. This is America and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. You might want to remember that.
^^^^I think Bossip gets the point. Geez!
i’m glad bossip is taking an active voice in the election and i agree 100% with you about voters and obama. i, too, do not see how a black person could not see him as a viable candidate.
black people, stop being so scared. and doubting. you’re sitting up there wondering what if? well what if you voted for obama. let’s try that.
GO OBAMA!
Thank you Kisha!
How about for once WE(Black people) do like the Jews and SUPPORT OUR OWN!
@toosexy
You are entitiled to your opinion and so am I. George W. Bush and his administration started this war. How dear you insinuate that this was the work of God. Seek help my dear.
@Raven 2007
Great posts!!
@KGates
The subprime mortgage crisis is not the fault of the individual mortgagee. The individual mortgagee was advised to take the risk by the economic predictions of Alan Greenspan, the Fed Reserve Chairman at the time. Due to his policies of holding down interest rates for prolonged periods, the financial institutions decided to get higher returns on their money by making these subprime loans to the public who lacked the financial savvy. In many black and latino areas, many were only offered subprime loans. To the follks who want to inject religion into this, this is a prime example of usury which I believe is banned in the Old Testament. As for who is going to start Armaggedon — the military industrial lobbyists are lined up behind the Republicans and most recently, Hillary, so there you have it. As far as welfare is concerned, the current Fed Chairman and the Treasury department is figuring out a way to constantly inject more money (causing inflation) so as to save Wall Street and the big banks. Does anyone remember Long Term Capital – the hedge fund that lost so much money that it was bailed out with our tax money? Please don’t run that ish about the Republicans being morally superior, financially prudent and encouraging self-advancement. And I haven’t even discussed what is going on at the Federal court level.
^^^^^I CO-SIGN
Co-sign w/ Annie
everything happens for a reason not by chance that’s what i stated that this war was suppose to happen and it was!
you people study politic so hard but how many of you study the bible?
I am not saying vote for the man because he is Black. Vote for him because you believe he is the better candidate. I truly like him better than Hillary but I think she has a slight lead over him overall. If she is the Democratic nominee it would be her best bet to have him as her running mate. That is my personal prediction. I still want him in the White house because I think he can do good things for ALL Americans.
@ too sexy:
Study both, you would then see how the Republicans do not line up with the Word. That is not to say the Democrats do, but the Word does not defend, but rather convicts the Republicans
and exactly what have the democrats done that way i can be informed and then maybe i can reconsider, also @raven don’t you believe for one second this is the real world.
Hillary will not pick O as her running mate and he won’t pick her. The two camps seem to hate each other now. I still think O matchs up better against the GOP canidates. I am trying to win this thing. toosexy, we live in this world…you have to study politics as well to know what is going on…It’s too important. And why does one have to know one over the other…you can be equally versed in all things…our brains can handle it, right?
@about it i personally went on the internet and looked at all the canidates and what they were for and against what they voted for in senate and what they did not that’s how i come up with who i will vote for. and for as the bible i read it all the time sometimes at work
@Afiya & Southern Belle 225
I think you both are right people don’t realize that just because you can win the nomination does not mean you can be elected. I personally believe that Clinton, Edwards, and Obama can all get the job done but I feel that Edwards stands the best chance at winning when it’s time to go head to head with the republicans.
what the dems have done.
Well,
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Violence Against Women Act
Child Credits in Tax Code
Keeping the interest rates low for education loans
Funding Medicare/Medicaid
Opposition to privatized social security
Opposition to torture
Federal judges who do not rule against civil rights for women and minorities.
Federal controls over business to prevent companies from violating laws protecting our environment, food, water.
This is what affects the everyday lives of folk. I can’t sit around thinking about the rapture when I can’t afford to send my kid to college, heat my home or drink my water.
The picture says if all! Hillary is in trouble. And they thought his campaign was joke. It appears that Mr. Obama may be laughing all the way the White House.
@tj and @aboutit
Thanks!!
If Barack wins, I hope he goes with Edwards. Clinton is festering so thoroughly in political and corporate ish, that there’s no way the Democrats will undo what the neocons have done over the past twenty years if she’s vice-president.
Y’all should seriously start looking into Edwards. He’s the only candidate to refuse money from any corporate lobbyists. If he’s doing that now, when he needs the most help, imagine what he’ll do as President…
Edwards gets crushed. Independents and moderate republicans hate him. People are not voting race people, they are voting, unfortunately, personality. Hill may be okay with the female vote but the level of disgust with her from independants and the GOP is high. She gets the GOP base exicted to vote against her…They do not care she is white. Look at Michigan…she basically ran unopposed in an open primary (independents can vote) and unopposed got 40%. That’s bad. O is the only canidate that can pull independents and moderate republicans who do not like their crop of canidates. Look at the national polling people. Get your head out of your *****.
I like Edwards…I supported him in 2004. I think he is getting lost in all the firsts (Hill being the first female and O being the first Black man) to be viable as President. I will admit, Hilldog has hurt my feelings alittle with this race. If she gets it, I will have to hold my nose a little but I’ll roll with her. No way either of them is each other’s running mate. If you want O in the White House you better vote for him now.
ME PERSONAL at this time i dont trust obama intentions. I DONT WANT A FRESH FACE IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT DONT MEAN *****, BUT I WANT SOMEONE WHO KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. I THINK OBAMA IS BEING PPAID BIG BUCKS TO BE A DISTRACTION IN WHICH HIS IS. HE DONT KNOW THE ENDS AND OUT OF THIS GAME AND I THINK HILLARY WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING US BACK TO NORMAL. THEN AFTER EVERYTHING START EVENING OUT, I WOULD PROBABLY VOTE FOR OBAMA IF I THINK HE CAN GO FROM THERE. BUT I DONT THINK HE AS A ROOKIE, KNOWS ENOUGH TO PULL US OUT OF THIS HOLE THAT BUSH HAS PUT US IN
EVEN IF OBAMA WAS TO WIN HE’D BE *****INATED EARLY!!! THIS COUNTRY IS NOT GOING TO LET A BLACK MAN IN AS PRESIDENT EVER IF THEY CAN HELP IT. KEEP DREAMING. THEY AREN’T LETTING A WOMAN IN EITHER BUT I KNOW THEY DEFINITELY WON’T BE LETTING THE BLACK MAN IN. THIS COUNTRY CLAIMS TO HAVE COME FAR BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS IT IS STILL 1865 IN THIS B*TCH!!!
MY FAULT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN **********INATED
Don’t forget…Bill was seen as a “rookie” in 1992 and he got the job done against the elder and more experienced George H.W. Bush. Listen, O will have good people around him. Look at all the endoresments he is getting (Sen. Leahey endorsed him today), plus former Sen. majority leader Tom Daschle is advising him. He has enough heavies around him to make it happen…so does Hilldog. He can do it. Don’t beleive the hype.
I KNOW ONE THING FOR SURE AND ITS THAT THIS PHOTO WAS PHOTOSHOPPED. i WONDER IS THIS BOSSIP DOING OR IF THE STOLE THE PIC. BOSSIP WHICH IS WHITE OWN IS TRYING TO GIVE US THESE IMAGES THAT HE CAN AND WILL WIN, BUT WE SHOULD NOT LET A WHITE MEDIA GROUP TELL US WHAT MLK WOULD LIKE
I am tired of not trying things because what I think whitey is going to do ‘It’s just me” I am sick of that *****e that is just ***** ***** fear talking and the racists have put that in our minds for too long. I am done with that. I stuck it to the man when they said I couldn’t graduate law school and I am sticking it to them now with the audacity that my boy can win this thing. I feel powerful not powerless and all Balck folk should stop being punks and fight this fear with the power of the vote. I am not going to just give up because of what I think a racist will do. i am rolling with O damit and who is rolling with me!?
^^^^As usual, puts all their trust in whites. SMDH
Lost Skeleton
I am tired of not trying things because what I think whitey is going to do ‘It’s just me” I am sick of that *****e that is just ***** ***** fear talking and the racists have put that in our minds for too long. I am done with that. I stuck it to the man when they said I couldn’t graduate law school and I am sticking it to them now with the audacity that my boy can win this thing. I feel powerful not powerless and all Balck folk should stop being punks and fight this fear with the power of the vote. I am not going to just give up because of what I think a racist will do. i am rolling with O damit and who is rolling with me!?
I DONT THINK ITS RACE WITH US BLACK FOLKS. BLACKS ARE STONG PEOPLE AND IT TAKES A STRONG PERSON TO LEAD US. MOST OF US ARE NOT BUYING INTO WHAT OBAMA IS SELLING. ALL HE DO IS THE NORMAL PEP TALK, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE CONCRETE STATEMENT FROM HIM. IS HE GOING TO KEEP ILLEGALS COMMING, WILL HE SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE ( AND FOR A BLACK MAN TO SAY HE WILL WILL BE POLITICAL SUICUDE). WHY WASNT HE AT JENA 6 IF HE FOUGHT CIVIL RIGHTS ALL HIS CAREER, I JUST NOT HAVE HEARD ANYTHING THAT I HAVENT HEARD BEFORE. ITS NOT THAT HE IS BLACK OR WHATEVER BUT, I LIKE THE CLINTONS CAUSE THEY HAD A STRONG ECONOMY AND IF SHE LEAD BILL THEN SHE CAN DO IT NOW. IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT
I”M ROLLIN WIT U LOST SKELETON!!
It was a smart move on O’s part not to come down to march for the Jena 6. Those same dummys everyone went in marched for were on youtube in no time flashing money and going to the BET(COON) Awards.
Please!
Leave that ***** to Al Sharpton who loves the camera.
It was a smart move on O’s part not to come down to march for the Jena 6. Those same dummys everyone went in marched for were on youtube in no time flashing money and going to the BET(COON) Awards.
Please!
WHATS RIGHT IS RIGHT ADN WHATS WRONG IS WRONG. AS A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER YOU DO NOT PICK YOUR BATTLES. YEA THOSE BOYS WERE WRONG BUT THE ENTIRE SITUATION WAS WRONG. YEA THE BOYS WERE FLASHING THEIR MONEY, BUT YOU FORGET THEY ARE *****ING KIDS. IF THEY WERE MATURE ADULTS THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE SITUATION ANYWAY. BUT HE CANNOT PICK HIS BATTLES IF IT WAS FOR THE GREATER GOOD. I BET IF HE WERE PRESIDENT AND SOME WHITE KIDS SHOOT THEMSELVES UP IN A SCHOOL,HE WOULD MAKE SOME KIND OF A STATEMENT, TO CONSOLE THE WHITES. BUT THE JENA 6 AND THE ***** HE PULL WITH DONNIE MCKLURKIN MADE ME KNOW THAT HE IS NOT FOR WHATS RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT WHATS BEST FOR HIS SITUATION
I’M VOTING GREEN PARTY! CYNTHIA MCKINLEY FOR PRESIDENT. SHE’S A BLACK WOMEN, SO HOW’S THAT FOR CHANGE?
I’ll say it once and I’ll say it again…WISE UP! No matter who is president things will not change!
I am rolling with you too Whoa! O was playing that smart game. The Jena 6 stuff was crazy but not every Black politician went down there so to single out O is just wrong. O is not trying to run for the President of the Rainbow Coaltion. He is in this to win this, don’t sleep. Hilldog and Bill wasn’t down there either so don’t throw that in O’s face. especially after those cats was at the BET awards stunning.
I like Cindy but she is a little nutty sometimes. Slapping the cop and all. I agree that we need some sistas running out there. Brothers can be sexist too you know.
SUPPORT BARACK OBAMA PRESIDENT 2008!! SOUTH CAROLINA STAND UP!!
Once again…SMART move on O’s part!
Kgates…it is broke and I want O to fix it. You willing to put up with all that disrespect Clintons heaped on you be my guess. This is not 1992 or 1996 so do not think the Clintons can work there magic again. This is a different economic mess we are looking at then what happened in 92. Plus, do not discount hope and inspiration. We all need it. Plus, do not think for a second that if O gets the nomination and wins in November, he will not have the best minds in the party, including the Clintons, helping him out.
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Hilldog and Bill wasn’t down there either so don’t throw that in O’s face. especially after those cats was at the BET awards stunnin
THEY DONT CLAIM TO HAVE FAUGHT FOR CIVIL RIGHT EITHER AND ALSO THE KEY WORD THEY AINT BLACK. YOU PROBABLY DONT TO MUCH CARE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER ABOUT THE JENA 6 ISSUE, ME EITHER, BUT WHAT IF IT WAS MY KIDS WHO GET CAUGHT UP IN SOME BS THAT I CANT PULL THEM OUT OF. I ALSO BEING TAUGHT NOT TO THINK I AM BETTER THAN NO ONE ELSE BECAUSE BS CAN HAPPEN TO ME ALSO. THEN OBAMA TRIED TO USED THE CHURCH AND TRAVEL WITH DONNIE, BUT WHEN DONNIE SAY HOMOSEXULAITY IS WRONG OBAMA WANT TO DISS THE MAN LIKE HE IS TELLING LIE, SO ***** OBAMA AND WHEN THE ELECTION IS OVER I WANT ALL YOU OBAMA SUPPORTER TO COME ON BOSSIP AND STATE HOW WRONG YOU WERE FOR THINKING HE WOULD WIN. HE GOT A BETTER CHANCE WINING AMERICAN IDOL, AGAINST RUBEN ADN FANTASIA
LOL. This ***** is funny. I am really SHOCKED at all the knuckle-heads complaining about Bossip posting about politics. You don’t want to read it then don’t read.. and shut your dumb *****es up.
Consider our history and the impact of this election, a discussion of politics should be the FIRST thing you should want to read.
*****in’ Crabs in a Barrel.
Which candidate plans to keep the U.S. out of the New World Order. That’s who I want in office.
@Kgates-2 coonery
Whether he wins or loses I won’t regret my vote at all! You are angry.
If O doesn’t win he doesn’t win. But he has the best chance of any minority ever. I love the fact that American can make history by electing the first minority or woman President of the United States. The fact is that he can, and why shouldn’t I support that. I admit the Jena 6 issue was real but you know what, that is what Al Sharpton and Jessie are for and they got the job done. O is in politics where you make things happen from the government side of things. He is not running for the civil rights leadership but for President. Plus, his record as a community organizer in Chicago, in the Illinois State Legislator and in the US Senate shows that he is right on all the issues. I agree with you Powers…crabs in a bucket I tell you!
WELL THEY SAY YOU CANT ARGUE WITH FOOL AND SINCE I REALIZE 90% OF ADULTS I COME IN CONTACT WITH MOST ARE IGNORANT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I AM WASTING MY TIME ON BOSSIP ANYWAY BECAUSE IF YOU ARE ON HERE YOU ARE PROBABLY A LOSER. AND SINCE I REALIZE I AM ON HEAR I WONDERING DO I FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR UN INFORMATIVE CAHT,I MUST GO NOW. iJUST ONLY WISHTHE REPUBLICAN WOULD HAVE SOMEONE I WILL VOTE FOR.
LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) — Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, the powerful chairman of the Judiciary Committee, will back Sen. Barack Obama’s bid for president, three Democratic sources familiar with the pending endorsement tell CNN — the Illinois senator’s fourth Senate endorsement in a week.
Leahy, first elected in 1974, is charged with vetting nominees to the federal bench, including the U.S. Supreme Court.
“Pat Leahy is one of the finest members of the U.S. Senate, and he sees the kind of possibilities that Barack Obama can bring to effect change to this country and world,” said one of the sources.
UPDATE: On a conference call with reporters, Leahy said he endorsed Obama because he believes he can bring reform to the nation’s health care system and schools, and end the Iraq war. “Barack Obama gives us that hope,” he said, saying the Illinois senator “represents the America we once were, and want to be again.”
“We need a president who can reintroduce America to the world, actually reintroduce America to ourselves. I believe Barack Obama is the best person to do that,” said Leahy.
He also said that “My endorsement is not in opposition to either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Edwards, both of whom I know and admire. I’m looking at who can do this best, and I believe Barack Obama can.”
– CNN’s Candy Crowley and Ted Barrett
@Raven
Here’s the thing about John Edwards he is a hypocrite. I volunteered for him in 2004 and went to school with his daughter Cait. There was no populist message then. This man will do and say anything to be president. Just 4 years ago he was an economic centrist, war hawk, who was hostile toward gay rights. Now 4 years later… he says that was all a mistake. Well would it be a mistake if the political climate hadn’t changed so drastically as to make that polically p*****e?
Also Edwards couldn’t carry the independent vote because not only is he a flip flopper he was on the ticket with the most notorious (whether rightfully known or not) flip flopper in American politic. Also he has a scandal brewing with a former aid who is supposedly pregnant. His wife is dying…
Edwards is a horrible candidate. He’s gotten a p***** with all the focus on barack and hillary but he would be torn apart if the campaigns ever saw him as a real threat. And he would be torn apart in the general as well. There will be no obama-edwards. I’m guessing Obama-Biden. Also Clinton at this point has no choice but to ask Obama to veep for her because of the tremendous devotion he experiences from supporters. If she won she would have to deal with a lot of disention and the idea that she is status quo.
Also cait is a s***** and no one at Princeton liked her she is a member of this elite club called Ivy which was notorious for excluding black people. The Edwards live in a 12 million dollar house… and this man is supposed to be the great populist hope? I will p*****.
here we go again. first of all, you don’t know who the ***** dr. king would of supported. so y’all need to edit dat ish out. y’all get more ignant every time y’all get on this topic
And we all know why u support Obama, and it has nothign to do w/ politics, i’ve said this on here once and i’ll say it, again, i wanna see how fast y’all turn on him.
And as black ppl, we need to focus more on local leaders, cuz Obama is not going to fix our problems. Any one, including dis here site, who thinks Obama is going to come in and save black people, needs to wake up. Most of the people in congress of whyte anyways, thats what has t ot change…
@ kgates -
You always have to pick your battles bruh… otherwise you end up like permed and pimped out AL – overexposed and useless!
@KFOOL
Are you serious? 90% of the adults you come into contact with are FOOLS! Then that says a LOT about your personality. IT STINKS! You can not have an educated debate without stomping your feet and throwing a tantrum! So basically you are RIGHT all the time and WE(everyone else) is WRONG! How about you learn how to disagree with people sometime before you lose yourself in a black hole. My gosh you are pathetic. Just because no one really agrees with you! Dunce cap for you>>>>>>GO IN THE DAMN CORNER!
I pity you.
I’m an 24 yr old African-american, and I don’t think that any black person is saying DON’T vote for Senator Obama simply because he is black, but rather outraged by the fact that we have a truly viable candidate. The DREAM candidate we’ve been waiting for. He’s perfect in every way! Intelligent, charismatic, has the gift to inspire ALL people of ALL backgrounds while bringing them together for the change he keeps promoting. If blacks can’t/won’t vote for him, who on earth will the vote for????? Yes, most can understand why many blacks would not support Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. However, Senator Obama is NOT in the same category with them. Out with the old and in with the new in EVERY way. I also love the fact that he just happens to be a black man running for president. He’s not running as the ‘black people’s president’. He truly represents ALL of us in this country.
WAKE UP GUYS! Think for a minute, before it’s too late. 20 yrs from now I’m going to be proud to say that I was apart of changing America for the better.
@ too sexy:
I am glad you looked at the websites of the candidates. That’s political advertising. Check their voting record and their corporate sponsors. If the Republicans get back in power, I hope your version of Jesus and your version of Christianity always line up with theirs. Because if your Church is deemed “too radical” you could become subject to surveillance. Or perhaps if you protest for peace, you won’t be able to fly to your denomination’s convention because you will be placed on a watch list for air travel (it is already happening). But above all, if the President of the US determines that you or your pastor is “an enemy combatant” you will be denied a writ of habeus corpus (locked up indefinitely without charges).
After Hurricane Katrina, any black person who would vote for the Republicans (and I don’t know who/what you are) secretly wishes annihilation of the black people. Why do you think Katrina victims were left to suffer and die? Because a Republican couldn’t get into the Senate in LA because of the black vote in New Orleans.
Anyway, the Democrats (Clinton Admin.) could have had the black vote sewn up had Bill Clinton signed an executive order or had fought for legislation to grant ex-convicts the right to vote in the South. But, their days of taking the Black vote for granted comes back to haunt them in the form of Obama.
Was’nt it once rumered that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian? She is stiff on the stage just as it seems she is in bed. Thats why Bill cheated on her so many times.
@SLAVE MENTALITY IS STILL IN A LOT OF US *tsk tsk
Thank you! and of course I COSIGN!
Damn kgates. I have alot of conservative friends and we agree to disagree but we respect each other. I love toosexy for standing up for what she believes but she didn’t make it personal. Reconsider brother, we were just backing up why we are voting the way we are voting. There is nothing foolish about that, right?
GO OBAMA
hey yall im back for a moment @ ABOUT IT, i went on my local new station and googled, now where would i find voting records and the corporate sponsors, because i am getting more into politics, i will look in to it because i want to make the right choice come november and @ LOST SKELETON thanks, that’s what it is just conversation everyone has an opinion whether we agree or not
@tj
That’s really true of many of the dem candidates, though, the flip-flopping tendencies. I read that Obama supported a bill a couple years back that sent 60 million dollars into the Iraq bull-*****tery going on over there even though he’s opposed the war since the beginning. If he was opposed to the war, why vote yes on this bill?
And Hilary flip-flopped on the NYS illegal immigrants getting state drivers licenses in a span of a week!
I like Edwards because of his real universal health care plan and his plan on removing all U.S. combat troops from Iraq and reposition them in Kuwait for protection purposes. Everyone knows the U.S. is in there for oil and we’ll probably stay no matter who’s president. But, both Obama and Hilary seem to want to stay in Iraq for their full term and it’s time someone had a plan to get them out. I know he won’t even reach Super Tuesday but I just hope someone chooses him as V.P.
To the conservatives on this board, do you think Hurricane Katrina would have happened if a Democrat was in office?
Do you think 3,900+ soldiers would have died in Iraq last year alone if Al Gore had won in 2000 or John Kerry in 2004?
Does anyone even remember that Al Qaeda and Bin Laden aren’t even in Iraq and yet we’re there anyway?
Barack Obama is an idiot! I’m 39 years old and came up during the Clinton era. Was in high school during the Reagan years. I saw first hand the changes that were made during the Clinton administration. For this moron to say that Reagan did more for the country in terms of changing the county’s direction than Bill Clinton is pure BULL*****! Like noted author Shelby Steele said in his book A Bound Man, Barack is a “bargainer”.Theis guy will say anything to get elected.
Please take the time to listen and consider what each candidate has to offer. It is irresponsible to vote for someone “just because” they’re Black or a woman. We are all getting swept up into the Obama movement — and yet he has barely articulated any viable policy. It isn’t just about winning the presidency, it is about having the ability to eradicate the effects of 8 years of incompetency and arrogance, that led us into a never-ending war and a recession.
Real talk — Edwards is the one who is putting forth the policies that will help the lower and middle cl*****. Even if it just rhetoric, as some say, so too is Obama’s current message. I hope he backs up his hopes and dreams with some realistic policies. If so, he’ll have my vote.
Making history is parti*****ting in this election, regardless of the outcome — not just voting for Obama because he is Black. Let’s not forget that Hillary will make history if she’s elected, too.
@ too sexy:
opensecrets.org
corpwatch.org
buyingofthepresident.org
http://www.house.gov
http://www.senate.gov
And I’ll get my Bible reading together — start me off with a verse [SMILE]
All the black folks who are against Obama are a bunch of retarded, talkin that he ain’t that good enuff just because of his skin, it might be the whole case this time because white folks can (gonna) vote against him just because of his skin, never forget that. White folks always tryna win by any means necessary to put their Champs on top, so just play the same game if yall wanna win sh*t one day soon.Don’t Be Stupid.Skills? Who cares right now?Come on, It’s a Master VS Slave Game!ya dig. If skills would mean something, Clintonz & Bushz couldn’t even make one step in that White House.This time, colour is THE case so GO OBAMA!!! I’m Black so Black People is Best people, That’s it. It’s the 1st time that a brother goes that far. Just support a n*gga!!!
You all are such full of crap. Obviously, you your self do not even know the history behind Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Act. According to you all, King (all by himself) wrote the legislation and had it p*****ed in Congress.
JUST GET OUT AND VOTE!!!
If i were you i would start with revelations it cleary dispells the last times, and remember you have to ask god for understanding and knowledge because it can get hard to understand,i have to and its like when you read he will immediately talk to you as you read. its amazing ,thanks for the websites and believe me i will check em tomorrow and i’ll catch back up witcha at bossip oh also read this book if you ever get a chance left behind they also have a movie too.
Oh that was at @ABOUT IT SORRY I FORGET TO ADDRESS THE LAST ONE
@too sexy.
Thanx, see you in cyber*****e tomorrow.
who are to be speaking for dr. king
i think this is a fair post. the truth is the polls say she is in trouble in south carolina. she should save her money and just let obama win it. i don’t think she will be able to catch up in time in that state
Hey, Bossip. Some of those civil rights folk done forgot where they came from and got turned out for the money, and you know this! The Clintons are good politicians to them cause they are good criminals. But the crime here is trusting whitey over your own. ***** the Clintons.
Obama 2008
Why is it that “black people are coming to their senses” because Barack Obama seems to be picking up support? I’m black, I got plenty of sense and I DON’T support Barack Obama.
Unity does not mean that all black people have to think the same way, vote for the same people, etc. etc. We’re individuals and we have individual opinions which we’re entitled to.
Bossip, if you like Barack Obama, that’s good for you, but don’t act like others of us are stupid if we don’t support him.
The more time I spend on this site, the more screwed up I see Black America really is…
First off: Raven2007. Till I see Democrats controling weather patterns, the answer is NO about Katrina. Your views on the war are as off base as your support for John Edwards, ambalance chaser.
#2:Nathaniel.”All the black folks who are against Obama are a bunch of retarded, talkin that he ain’t that good enuff just because of his skin, it might be the whole case this time because white folks can (gonna) vote against him just because of his skin, never forget that. White folks always tryna win by any means necessary to put their Champs on top, so just play the same game if yall wanna win sh*t one day soon.Don’t Be Stupid.Skills? Who cares right now?Come on, It’s a Master VS Slave Game!ya dig. If skills would mean something, Clintonz & Bushz couldn’t even make one step in that White House.This time, colour is THE case so GO OBAMA!!! I’m Black so Black People is Best people, That’s it. It’s the 1st time that a brother goes that far. Just support a n*gga!!!”
Are you serious???
#3:Kasmir360: Sorry most historians would disagree.
#4:Trixie:???? If your Trixie , why the Speed avatar?
Change my behind. When the NWO comes down on us while Obama is in office, then noone will be smiling.
Ofcourse we will never suspect anything and vote for him. Ask him is he a member of the CFR a.k.a. illuminati. It’s not myth, its real.Do your research. Our votes never count anyway
Shouldn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s Black, well I say, Heavens Yes! we should. This is 2008.
The psychological boost Obama would give to Black people around the world would resonate for generations. More accurately, for eternity.
People are voting for Hilary ’cause she’s a woman, Black people are voting for Hilary ‘just because she’s a woman.’
Personally, I think how sad is that? What has the Clintons done for women of colour, past present… and believe… not in the future. How many women of colour have the same privileges, special advantage, immunity, permission, rights, or benefit granted to or enjoyed by a white women/ white men or white individuals. Going for a job, the potential employer sees black first, woman second. That goes for Black men too.
We don’t live in a utopian state people, and colour still matters, call a thing what it is and then, we can change it.
As a successful Black woman from the UK, Now living in the USA, I am fortunate enough to have been elevated by the Civil Rights era that was so bravely fought on American soil.
Black people in America re; The Civil Rights era, have inspired Black people across the world to do better, to demand justice and freedom from oppression, slavery and tyranny, and put to shame those who would withhold our inalienable rights of liberty, equality and brotherhood/sisterhood.
African/Americans have shown that no matter the atrocities leveled at them they are a power to be contended with.
Dirty politics, (POLITRICKS) won’t stop our forward progress.
And yes, I recognize the effects and have also been equally inspired by Africa, Caribbean and Latin freedom fighters, who have uplifted many and changed much since the destructive era of sub-human bondage, (Slavery)
Heaven yes! Vote for Obama cause he’s Black, the policies he speaks of sound okay. In a capitalist system the whole government administration has to be overhauled for real change to happen in America, and so in any other country. You all know that. One man or woman does not a country run. (Thank goodness) Hey look at what Margaret Thatcher didn’t do for women/the arts/unions, etc in the UK…
Hilary= 25 years of political dynasty= Old School
As for Bob Johnson, his BET legacy = Black Enslavement Television.
Come on people, let’s not let ‘Willie Lynch’ win this one.
Wake UP!
So lets get real…
For the psychological empowerment of Black folk… Obama,
For a symbol of progressive world change… Obama
For a man who appears to offer an healthy political alternative for real change… Obama
VOTE OBAMA
i don’t think Dr. King would support obama just because he’s black.
America is on the brink of repeating the Regan Era depending on who we elect. I can not see where in obama’s resume where he is qualified to take on such a task, nor can I clearly hear this through his debates, quotes and such.
We should stop and think about whether we are trying to make history in our era or if obama is ready to be president.
I think obama needs some relevant years/experience in public service before his legacy ends up being like J. Carter who is more successful in public service post presidency than during his presidency. The reason for that is his inspiring speech funneled hin to the white house but he was ill-prepared for the monumentus problems facing the nation during his term.
I FIND IT HILARIOUS THAT BOSSIP THINKS KING WOULD SUPPORT BARACK. Barack says he models himself after Ronald Reagen. The same Ronald Reagen that called King a communist.
Dr. King wouldn’t be supporting that sh*t.
lol
chantel
I FIND IT HILARIOUS THAT BOSSIP THINKS KING WOULD SUPPORT BARACK. Barack says he models himself after Ronald Reagen. The same Ronald Reagen that called King a communist.
damn that ***** lost, he really said that ish
There you go again Bossip, puting the cart befor3 the horse. Who in the hell appointed you as Dr. King’s voice for the afterlife? And why do you keep on riding the old school black leaders jocks? They can vote for who they want to, just like you can, damn you stupid.
Barack Obama President 2008 People stay united, we have some Hillary people in here to dissuade us, put doubt in our minds. Remember united we stand divided…….
I support Barack Obama 100%
kgates
SUBPRIME MORTAGE IS THE FAULT OF THE PERSON WITH THE MORTGAGES. SO THEY MAKE IT A GOVT PROBLEM. IF YOU MAKE 30,000 A MONTH, YOU CANNOT AFFORD A 500,000 HOUSE
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1. 500,000 is considered a jumbo loan, and no lender would lend a subprime borrower that amount of money.
2. The government is to blame for failing to monitor these greedy lenders who targets working cl***** people in the name of evil profit.
3. The government is to blame for not putting American citizens first, and spending all their might and resources in creating false wars in the name of freedom.
4. A person who’s excercizing their basic human rights to housing is NOT to blame for losing their jobs because of a *****ty economy, and or greedy lenders who cheated them with these Adjustable Rate Mortgages and/or high interest rates.
5. The focus on subprime is simply a scapegoat to cloud the bigger issue, which is the economy as a whole. Both prime and subprime borrowers are losing their jobs and homes.
6. The average person would not want to lose their home – but certain things are inevitable at this moment.
shaline
Change my behind.
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Yeah, change my *****…
Funny how people are so easily influenced by gibberish.
>>>Our votes never count anyway…<<<
Actually, the president, like Bush in 2000 and 2004, has already been selected. And from the look of things, it may very well be Bush again…
I see a lot of this is why Obama is no good, and this is why Obama is good (for the record, I think there’s method to what he’s talking about Reagan… there’s a reason. Don’t hate automatically; identify it).
I wish the Ron Paul people were still here, because they actually took the time to articulate why they were supporters of Ron Paul versus anyone else.
The reasons for not voting Obama, on here, look suspiciously like plantation mentatlity/fear of success.
I also notice the fake Hillary supporters… they’re easy to spot. It’s the fake Obama supporters I’m worried about. By the way, I’ve seen some of the posts here posted VERBATIM in other places. I worry about that, mostly because ‘those places’ enjoy trolling sites they think of as ‘liberal’ and then reporting back about how stupid ‘those liberals’ (or ‘those blacks’) are. Oh well.
What’s this about the group who bought out Bossip? and Lossip?
Black folk need to stop automatically giving their vote to Democrats, because the Democratic party doesn’t like blacks, white Democrats are notorious for not supporting black democrats in certain areas of the country; and anybody who takes a critical revisit to the Clinton years and finds themselves happy with the results….. I don’t know what to say. That doesn’t mean the Republicans are any better, but it might be time to enforce our own changes instead of expecting the system to change for us and our ‘needs’. It ain’t gonna happen.
And that’s what Dr. King, I expect, would say. Obama certainly said it’s foolish to bang your head against the wall and expect a different result.
I wonder where the Edwards supporters are, and the Huckabee supporters.
nahnah
shaline
Change my behind.
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Yeah, change my *****…
Funny how people are so easily influenced by gibberish.
>>>Our votes never count anyway…<<<
Actually, the president, like Bush in 2000 and 2004, has already been selected. And from the look of things, it may very well be Bush again…
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that’s defeatism. the problem is states rights. the electorial process works differently in the various states and territories. if we understand the process better we can then make it work towards our own benefit. but to say don’t bother to try? mmmmmmmmmm
is bossip really owned by white people?
It appears that way
I tell all of you Obama supporters to not hold your breaths, while waiting for ‘change’ from him, because you all will suffocate to death.
With that said, change must start from the gr*****roots, as it did in during the Civil Rights movement and every other movement that existed in this world. Government has never made change, unless the change benefited their pockets. So, instead of accepting empty words from our politicians, and allowing the corporate media to shove a candidate down our throats, we need to demand more from them as they are, in theory, put in office to work for us – not the other way around. In other words, we elect them to govern us, so unless we want to continue down a path of false wars and *****ty economy, read, research, and think independently before endorsing a candidate…
Many of you will sit in front of the computer for hours, with your eyes fixated on news about Jay Z & Beyonce, yet you all can’t take a few minutes out of your ‘busy’ schedules to thorougly research a candidate before jumping on the train. And, yes, just because a person is black doesn’t mean he/she is on your side…
Just look at the African and Caribbean countries, where the governments ***** on their people all the time. Those black politicians are united as one with Western elite governments to ***** on their citizens, and keep them poor, weak, and oppressed. They live in mansions, while the majority of the populations suffer…So, to claim a politician will have your back simply because of the color of their skin is absurd and utterly dangerous.
cat4everrr:
Defeatism is allowing the illegal president to still be in office after nearly 8 years.
I dont care who becomes president! Anybody can talk a good game and there is one that I believe that is god.
cat4everrr
is bossip really owned by white people?
yes it is
Bossip, the leading celebrity gossip website serving urban consumers, notched a 537% increase in traffic over the past six months, with 158%% growth in the last three months alone as measured by Google *****ytics. The site drew 37.1 million page views during the six months measured, including 9.8 million in September, from 2.2 million unique visitors.
Moguldom Media Group is a new media company focused on niche demographic verticals. The company’s new media portfolio includes Bossip.com, the leading celebrity gossip website serving African American consumers; Lossip.com, a similar website serving Latin American consumers; F-Listed, which covers general celebrity gossip with a unique edge and male sensibility; and MingXingYao.com, a Mandarin-language blog covering Chinese celebrities. All Moguldom Media Group properties benefit from a favorable online advertising environment, unique credibility within the communities it serves, and strong strategic relationships
nahnah
cat4everrr:
Defeatism is allowing the illegal president to still be in office after nearly 8 years.
i never understood, we almost impeached clintom for getting some head, but bush lies and never once have i heard impeachment
jjones
i never understood, we almost impeached clintom for getting some head, but bush lies and never once have i heard impeachment
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defeatism…;-)
Obama is the fraud of change.
Kenya is the fraud of Bossip.
Somebody, anybody, please enlighten me, WHAT exactly has the Clintons done for Blacks in their lifetime. Just cite me one.
As far as I know, Bill Clinton kicked off his 92 campaign by attacking Sister Souljah (a signal to southern racist whites that he is prepared to keep blacks in their place). The highest ranking Black person in the Clinton white house was the Sec. of Commerce – Ron Brown. There was no Black in the Clinton inner-circle.
Bill Clinton threw Lani Gurnier under the bus when the republicans opposed her appointment for AG. Clinton signed the crime bill that has nearly a million black men in prison (most of them for non-violent drug crimes); Clinton repealed the welfare program that has plunged over 8million people (blacks and whites) below the poverty line – see 2000 census figures. By the way, these bills were all part of the Republicans “Contract with America”.
As for Bob Johnson, I can understand his contempt for black people. He made his money by funnelling garbage and ***** into the homes of blacks vai his BET. He, of all people, know that we blacks are stupid. How else could we allow a pimp and *****-peddler to dare claim to speak for us, if we are not stupid?
Memo to Al Sharpton: Lets march on BET, NOW!!!
Attention Bob Johnson: When Barack Obama was giving voice to poor Blacks, you were busy peddling ***** to us. So shut up and go to your ornate room in m*****a’s house.
The real ‘fairy tale’ in this campaign is this idiotic, dubious, and downright fallacious notion that the Clintons have a long record of standing behind blacks. *****ody have ever cited one example. Any wonder why white folks see us as intelectually inferior? We act as if we are!!
Kenya
Obama is the fraud of change.
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Fraud of change.
Fraudulently anti-war.
AIPAAC puppet…
He’s a phony who knows he can lie to his supporters, since Americans don’t read, unless it’s about a celebrity getting married…
Starting QB for the Packers
In a news conference Deanna Favre announced she will be the starting
QB for the Packers this coming Sunday.
Deanna *****erts that she is
qualified to be starting QB because she has spent the past 16 years
married to Brett while he played QB for the Packers. During this
period of time she became familiar with the definition of a corner
blitz, and is now completely comfortable with other terminology of
the Packers offense. A survey of Packers fans shows that 50% of
those polled supported the move.
Does this sounds idiotic and unbelievable to you? Well, Hillary Clinton makes the same claims as to why she is qualified to be President and 50% of democrats polled agreed. She has never run a
City, County, or State.
When told Hillary Clinton has experience because she has 8 years in
the white house, ***** Morris stated “so has the pastry chef”.
If Bill Clinton can fu*k over his wife and the nation by lying to her/us about fu*king the help, and ruin the life of an intern and several other harem members—-why do Black people believe that he WON’T Fu*k us over as well??????
“When I think of the person that I thought was Bill Clinton, I think he had genuine remorse. When I think of the person that I now see is 100 percent politician, I think he’s sorry he got caught.” —Monica Lewinsky
@ Yolinda: EXACTLY
@ Nah Nah: I hate when radicals pretend that their radicalism doubles as altruism. You think Obama and any other well intentioned person would like to see a needless war persists. The fact of the matter is these things are extremely convoluted. You can’t take away funding without taking away vital combat gear, post service benefits, withdrawal capabilities, and perhaps even lowering pay.
Again you come with this attitude that you’re either more informed or morally superior to Obama and every other politician which is a joke. You simply have an all or nothing attitude when it comes to policy and that’s not the way things work. Politics changes policy not attitudes. If you want a social movement start one, but don’t hold politicians to your radical anarchist litmus test.
As for the people saying bossip can’t speak for doctor king… If you had read the post. It doesn’t say that Dr King wouldn’t be supporting Clinton it says that King wouldn’t support the civil Rights eras support of a dynasty rule. Moreover Dr. king wouldn’t support Hillary.
As an African American scholar I’m going to go out on a limb and say bossip is pretty accurate in its *****essment. Especially considering the recent comments of Martin Luther King III that denounced the Clinton’s use of racial politic
Just to clarify. bossip did not claim that Dr. King wouldn’t support Hillary, but I am. And Bossips *****ertion that King would be against a tyrannical legacy is correct in light of Hillary’s recent behaviour as an owner of the democratic party. Dr. King was against Oligarchy and against entitlement
I love this photo!
I think it is great that black people are beginning to allow ourselves to get back in this political process. Now when we start putting these people in office we need to make sure they keep their promises to our communities. If that means marching in front of their office and calling them out every chance we get then we will have better things in our communities.
It is a shame that people who are not even here legally fight for their rights more than we do and this is our country. I hope that Mr. Obama win because then we will have to look at ourselves and stop blaming everything on the white man.
And as far as Hilary she is loosing support because of the mess she and her campaign tried to creat with this whole race thing. I don’t think she realized how sinsitive and how much destructions in way or the other drugs has brought to our community. Then to bring out all of these old civil rights leaders who so far out of touch with their own people and communities to defend her and stand up for her just turned alot of people stomachs.
They are part of the status quo as well. It is time to retire them also.
I was watching the news last night and your “glory man” Obama praised the efforts of RONALD REAGAN. That he made the GREATEST CHANGE to the United States. You REALLY know how to pick them well Bossip! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
jjones
cat4everrr
is bossip really owned by white people?
yes it is
Bossip, the leading celebrity gossip website serving urban consumers, notched a 537% increase in traffic over the past six months, with 158%% growth in the last three months alone as measured by Google *****ytics. The site drew 37.1 million page views during the six months measured, including 9.8 million in September, from 2.2 million unique visitors.
Moguldom Media Group is a new media company focused on niche demographic verticals. The company’s new media portfolio includes Bossip.com, the leading celebrity gossip website serving African American consumers; Lossip.com, a similar website serving Latin American consumers; F-Listed, which covers general celebrity gossip with a unique edge and male sensibility; and MingXingYao.com, a Mandarin-language blog covering Chinese celebrities. All Moguldom Media Group properties benefit from a favorable online advertising environment, unique credibility within the communities it serves, and strong strategic relationships
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wowser, thanks for that info. i’ll be heading back to the gossip website well known for lies like bossip. but at least they are black owned
Bossip, the leading celebrity gossip website serving urban consumers, notched a 537% increase in traffic over the past six months, with 158%% growth in the last three months alone as measured by Google *****ytics. The site drew 37.1 million page views during the six months measured, including 9.8 million in September, from 2.2 million unique visitors.
Moguldom Media Group is a new media company focused on niche demographic verticals. The company’s new media portfolio includes Bossip.com, the leading celebrity gossip website serving African American consumers; Lossip.com, a similar website serving Latin American consumers; F-Listed, which covers general celebrity gossip with a unique edge and male sensibility; and MingXingYao.com, a Mandarin-language blog covering Chinese celebrities. All Moguldom Media Group properties benefit from a favorable online advertising environment, unique credibility within the communities it serves, and strong strategic relationships
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thanks, i’ll be heading back over to the other gossip website that is black owned.
People keep talking about America isn’t ready for a black man as president. The statement should be America better get ready for a black man as president. In the infamous words of the late great Sam Cooke: A change is gonna come!
THE BOTTOM LINE IS VOTE FOR THE BEST CANDIDATE, WHITE OR BLACK, MALE OR FEMALE
@MICHELLE I HEARD THAT TOO AND WE KNOW REGAN WAS ALL ABOUT THE TRICKLE DOWN ENCONOMICS THEORY AND PUSHING CRACK INTO MOSTLY MINORITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
EVEN IF EVERY BLACK PERSON IN AMERICA OF VOTING AGE VOTED FOR OBAMA HE STILL WOULDN’T WIN….DID YOU FORGET WE ARE STILL A MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY. EVEN IF ALL THE HISPANICS AND BLACKS VOTED FOR HIM HE STILL WOULDN’T WIN. I DON’T DOUBT. BUT I WANT WHOEVER IS GOING TO GET IN THERE, GET OUR TROOPS HOME, LOWER TAXES FOR THE IMPOVERISHED, SUCH AS MYSELF, AND BRING SOME MONEY HOME SO THAT I CAN GET SOME FINANCIAL AID TO FINISH COLLEGE AND SOME REASONABLE HEALTHCARE AND PRESCRIPTION DRUG COVERAGE FOR ME AND MY CHILD. THAT IS WHO I WANT…THEY ARE PLAYING THESE MUDSLINGING TACTICS AND WHATNOT TO, AS USUAL, AVOID THE REAL ISSUES.
@Michelle
You aren’t that good in coprehending what you read are you? He wasn’t praising Reagan he was acknowledging how Reagan was “transformational” . Here is the quote:
““When the country was so sick of a blue state president, Carter, Reagan was able to tap into it by being 100 percent red-state,” he said. “Reagan knew transformation was all about mandate. Reagan ran a clear red-issue campaign. He never reached out to blue. Reagan was able to bowl over any resistance in Congress because he had a clear 100 percent red-state mandate … Reagan, therefore, was able to get all the changes he wanted. Reagan was for those reasons … transformational.”
He is not praising Reagan at all. Jimmy Carter blew it for the Dems and Reagan used that to get elected and push his agenda. Thats fact. BTW, he may also be implying that Bush is the new Jimmy Carter and people are tired of him.
here we go again. first of all, you don’t know who the ***** dr. king would of supported. so y’all need to edit dat ish out. y’all get more ignant every time y’all get on this topic
And we all know why u support Obama, and it has nothign to do w/ politics, i’ve said this on here once and i’ll say it, again, i wanna see how fast y’all turn on him.
And as black ppl, we need to focus more on local leaders, cuz Obama is not going to fix our problems. Any one, including dis here site, who thinks Obama is going to come in and save black people, needs to wake up. Most of the people in congress of whyte anyways, thats what has t ot change…
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@ SERENE…..I AGREE WITH THIS WHOLE HEARTEDLY NO ONE BLACK PRESIDENT IS GOING TO COME IN AND SWEEP THE COUNTRY AND DO EVERYTHING FOR EVERY BLAKC PERSON. WE KNOW MOST POLITICIANS ARE EASILY BROUGHT AND SOLD FOR A FEW BUCKS AND OBAMA MAYBE ISN’T NOW BUT WHEN THE THREATS OF HIS LIFE START TO FLY….I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH WE, BLACK PEOPLE, WILL MEAN TO HIM WHEN WE CANNOT SAVE HIS LIFE.
My wife flew off the handle about the Reagan comment until she actually heard it. O was not praising Reagans presidency, he was commenting on how Reagans 1980 campaign was able to pull Democrats from the party to vote for him. He was talking about the campaign and not the Presidency. Duh! O is a Democrat and a very liberal one at that (he is more to the left than Hillary) so of course he is not praising Raegan as the two are not alike.
O should not have made that comment because it can be taken out of context like it is now. Both Sen. Edwards, Clinton and Obama have that problem because they engage in Senator speak. Kerry had that problem in 2004. O gave a highly thoughtful and complex answer to a question that was better answered during the general election and not the nomination. But for anyone to think that a liberal Democrat from Illinois wants to be like Reagan is just plain silly. O made a bad *****ogy considering how Reagans name is mud in the Black communuity but it isn’t a fatal one.
I am not voting for O to fix Black people. A president can’t do that. (Actually I think Clinton supports actually want Hillary to fix Black people too but that is besides the point). I want O as President of the U.S. because I beleif in the type of bipartisanship we need in government to make it work. Black folk need to fix their own problems without government becoming an obstacle. I am an O supporter because I believe the country needs a fresh start because the GOP will battle Clinton to death because their voters hate her. O or Edwards have less baggage and no one is voting for Johnny E so kill that noise.
I’m supporting John Edwards, that said, I still find inspiration in the other candidates. I’m not a Hilliary fan, but as a woman I admire how far she’s come and I admire her for her intellect as well as her strength. I admire Dennis for fighting for what he believes in and standing up for those of us who would like to see Bush and Cheney impeached. The other night while watching the latest debate, I actually got a little overwhelmed, thinking about the weight that Obama and Hilliary must carry on their shoulders.
I’m beginning to see the stress and strain in their faces. Imagine having a whole group of people looking to you to be “the one.” Be it some African Americans for Obama or Some Woman for Hilliary. No, race shouldn’t be an issue and gender should also not be an issue, but we can talk about the history being made by both of these candidates. Now little girls can say it is possible and young African American kids can say the same.
Which is why I felt inspired to make the video “A Hope For Change.” Just go to youtube and type in rainlillie a hope for change. Thanks.
TJ
Nah Nah: I hate when radicals pretend that their radicalism doubles as altruism. You think Obama and any other well intentioned person would like to see a needless war persists. The fact of the matter is these things are extremely convoluted. You can’t take away funding without taking away vital combat gear, post service benefits, withdrawal capabilities, and perhaps even lowering pay.
Again you come with this attitude that you’re either more informed or morally superior to Obama and every other politician which is a joke. You simply have an all or nothing attitude when it comes to policy and that’s not the way things work. Politics changes policy not attitudes. If you want a social movement start one, but don’t hold politicians to your radical anarchist litmus test.
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1. Why do you insist I am morally superior to any person, since I never made such claim? Could it possibly be because your argument is lacking – and therefore YOU feel inferior?
2. I suggest you school us on how else to end an unfavorable war, other than to stop funding it? Go ahead, and tell us…Because even congress knows the ONLY way to end a war such as this is to cut of funding and slowly, but surely withdraw the troops and bring them home.
3. Radical what? The only way to clean up the mess that the selected president of nearly 8 years caused is to take a radical approach for change. I thought you were into radicalism, being an Obama supporter an all. Radical = change, dear.
4. What makes Obama “well-intentioned”? Is it because the media pushed and shoved him down your throat and told you so? LOL @ you and your blind faith for Mr. Obama, and the fact that you and many on here excuse him for signing over 300 billions of dollars of funding with absolutely no resolution whatsoever!
BTW…If Obama is well intentioned, then so is Hilary, since both vote the same 98% of the time…
Please tell me that’s not your pic?????^^^^^^^^^^^^
@Nahnah
You don’t end the war but cutting the funding. You end soldiers lives by doing that. Rethink your strategy…its foolish. The funding doesnt just pay for bombs and bullets. It also provides for the soldiers safety and morale. The funding is also what keeps the troops safer, provides equipment,protective armor, night vision goggles, interpreters, informants, meals, phone calls and calling cards, mail service, showers, real food(not MRE’s), flights home, increased pay, etc. Not just bullets and bombs.
Imagine a father not paying his child support “AT ALL” because he knew the mother was misusing part or even most of it. That father would be a deadbeat because that decision to punish the mother also punished the innocent child. The child has no voice. To not fund the war because you dont like the war and want to punish the Republicans makes “you” a deadbeat. The military member has no voice.
You end the war by slow but deliberate withdrawal. This withdrawal does not neet to be announced. It just needs to happen, period!
How To End The War
Russ Feingold
Our founders wisely kept the power to fund a war separate from the power to conduct a war. In their brilliant design of our system of government, Congress got the power of the purse, and the president got the power of the sword. As James Madison wrote, “Those who are to conduct a war cannot in the nature of things, be proper or safe judges, whether a war ought to be commenced, continued or concluded.”
Earlier this week, I chaired a hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee to remind my colleagues in the Senate that, through the power of the purse, we have the constitutional power to end a war. At the hearing, a wide range of constitutional scholars agreed that Congress can use its power to end a military engagement.
The Constitution gives Congress the explicit power “[to] declare War,” “[t]o raise and support Armies,” “[t]o provide and maintain a Navy” and “[t]o make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces.” In addition, under Article I, “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.” These are direct quotes from the Constitution of the United States. Yet to hear some in the Administration talk, it is as if these powers were written in invisible ink. They were not. These powers are a clear and direct statement from the founders of our republic that Congress has authority to declare, to define and, ultimately, to end a war.
If and when Congress acts on the will of the American people by ending our involvement in the Iraq war, Congress will be performing the role *****igned it by the founding fathers—defining the nature of our military commitments and acting as a check on a president whose policies are weakening our nation.
There is plenty of precedent for Congress exercising its constitutional authority to stop U.S. involvement in armed conflict.
In late December 1970, Congress prohibited the use of funds for introducing United States ground combat troops into Cambodia or providing U.S. advisors to Cambodian military forces. In late June 1973, Congress set a date to cut off funds for combat activities in Southeast Asia.
More recently, President Clinton signed into law language that prohibited funding after March 31, 1994, for military operations in Somalia, with certain limited exceptions. And in 1998, Congress p*****ed spending legislation that prevented U.S. troops from serving in Bosnia after June 30, 1998, unless the president made certain *****urances.
Congress has the power to end military engagements, and there is little doubt that decisive action from the Congress is needed to end U.S. involvement in the war in Iraq. Despite the results of the election, and two months of study and supposed consultation—during which experts and members of Congress from across the political spectrum argued for a new policy—the president has decided to escalate the war. When asked whether he would persist in this policy despite congressional opposition, he replied: “Frankly, that’s not their responsibility.”
Last week Vice President Cheney was asked whether the non-binding resolution p*****ed by the Foreign Relations Committee that will soon be considered by the full Senate would deter the president from escalating the war. He replied: “It’s not going to stop us.”
In the United States of America, the people are sovereign, not the president. It is Congress’ responsibility to challenge an administration that persists in a war that is misguided and that the nation opposes. We cannot simply wring our hands and complain about the administration’s policy. We cannot just p***** resolutions saying “your policy is mistaken.” And we can’t stand idly by and tell ourselves that it’s the president’s job to fix the mess he made. It’s our job to fix the mess, too, and if we don’t do so we are abdicating our responsibilities.
Yesterday, I introduced legislation that will prohibit the use of funds to continue the deployment of U.S. forces in Iraq six months after enactment. By prohibiting funds after a specific deadline, Congress can force the president to bring our forces out of Iraq and out of harm’s way.
This legislation will allow the president adequate time to redeploy our troops safely from Iraq, and it will make specific exceptions for a limited number of U.S. troops who must remain in Iraq to conduct targeted counter-terrorism and training missions and protect U.S. personnel. It will not hurt our troops in any way—they will continue receiving their equipment, training, salaries, etc. It will simply prevent the president from continuing to deploy them to Iraq. By p*****ing this bill, we can finally focus on repairing our military and countering the full range of threats that we face around the world.
As the hearing I chaired in the Senate Judiciary Committee made clear, this legislation is fully consistent with the Constitution of the United States. Since the president is adamant about pursuing his failed policies in Iraq, Congress has the duty to stand up and use its constitutional power to stop him. If Congress doesn’t stop this war, it’s not because it doesn’t have the power. It’s because it doesn’t have the will.
tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/02/how_to_end_the_war.php
Hillary > Obama
I find it pathetic that so many blacks are supporting Obama JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. And a lot of white liberals are supporting Obama JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.
“I’m not racist I support Obama.” – white yuppies who feel ‘hip’ supporting Obama yet they don’t have any black friends
@ kdogg:
The only foolishness I see here is:
“You end the war by slowly but deliberate withdrawal. This withdrawal does not neet to be announced. It just needs to happen, period!”
So, are you suggesting that we should wait for Bush, who doesn’t want the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, to withdraw the troops when he’s ready, instead of congress excercising their constitional power to create resolutions for partial, yet immediate withdrawal?
You do know that “we the people” wants the troops OUT of Iraq, right? And you do know Congress, in theory, works for “we the people”, right?
The fact of the matter is, your silly suggestion can only work IF the president chooses to do so, but since he’s not interested in bringing the troops home, congress is the only solution to this mess. But they’re not willing to do so, for obvious reasons.
And that includes OBAMA, since he voted against the Russ-Feingold amendment, which advocated for partial troop withdrawal…
Also, there’s clearly a difference between funding the war and funding the troops, kdogg. But, unfortunatley, the two are lumped together, especially the Democraps, for political purposes.
The fact is, the vast majority of the Democrats, INCLUDING OBAMA, want to keep the troops in Iraq, therefore they trick the public into thinking they’re approving billions of dollars for the sole purpose of protecting the troops.
And if this were true, then how much longer will we be ‘funding the troops’ in Iraq and Afghanistan?
@ NahNah
You just don’t get it, do you? I’m not arguing the legality of the war, or the powers of congress, or the powers of the President. I don’t think that the war should’ve ever been fought, I think Congress failed us , and I cant wait until Bush leaves office. With all of that said, Punishing the troops by ending their funding would be criminal!
Obviously since you don’t know anything about the military let me educate you on something. Congress is not part of a soldiers Chain of Command. However, the President is. And, unless lawmakers declare this war to be unlawful, then EVERY person in the Armed Forces is subordinate to the President. To disoey a lawful order is punishable under the UCMJ. Military law and Civilian law are not the same. As a soldier, you give up certain rights.
So with or without the extra funding, the war would still go on. The military does have a budget. There is money available. Cutting that funding will not stop the military. Certain monies originally earmarked for NASA and DOE, will go to the Military.
The only thing voting against war funding would have done is make the DOD have to become creative in where the money came from. Remember 1000 dollar hammers, anyone?
Voting against the funding would have hurt the soldiers/Marines long before it ever affected the President.
Maybe YOU can live with that. However most people with a conscience can’t.
Also, there’s clearly a difference between funding the war and funding the troops, kdogg. But, unfortunatley, the two are lumped together…..
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In your heart there may be a difference. I know there is a difference in my heart. I still have brothers over there. In reality, there is no difference. The fact remains that the war funding money doesn’t just pay for the bombs and bullets. You cant get around that. That’s why I stand by my *****ogy of the deadbeat dad depriving his child of support in order to control/punsih the baby momma:
Imagine a father not paying his child support “AT ALL” because he knew the mother was misusing part or even most of it. That father would be a deadbeat because that decision to punish the mother also punished the innocent child. The child has no voice. To not fund the war because you dont like the war and want to punish the Republicans makes “you” a deadbeat. The military member has no voice.
This is to KDOGG!
Can you please tell me what OBAMA has down for the black people while he has been in office. Do you think you would ever hear a REPUBLICAN praising a DEMOCRAT for his TRANSITIONAL period. I DON’T THINK SO!
@ Nah Nah
You imply your own moral superiority when you claim that Obama isn’t REALLY interested in ending the war but simply posturing for votes.
As for your claim that stopping funding would end the war that is incorrect. The unfortunate truth is congress is not the commander and chief until there is a new commander and chief funds would simply be re-allocated to ensure the truths were still funded.
Now for a lesson in campaigning.
Cutting funding for troops is political suicide. You literally are not supporting the troops by doing so. when you vote to cut funding you vote to cut combat gear which puts American lives in danger. Furthermore I’m sure you’ve heard of a fillibuster if Obama had voted to cut funding it still never would have p*****ed.
As for your attitude. You clearly think you either better informed or morally superior to Mr Obama. what I mean by that is you either think he doesn’t know what he’s doing or doesn’t really want the war to end.
@ Kdogg:
Please stop talking out of the crack of your *****…
AGAIN, there is a clear difference between funding the troops and funding the war. It’s not “in my heart” – it’s permitted by the laws of the land!!! Do you know what the laws of the land are?
Per the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION:
_ Congress has the “power of the purse”, which allows them to cut war-related funds, or even limit it to certain aspects of the war, such as equipements, salaries, and whatever else they need to protect themselves, which can force the redeployment of the troops.
_ Congress DOES have the power to regulate the military in many ways – indirectly AND directly, so that stuff you’re talking about is pure bull*****. If congress says NO MORE WAR, then NO MORE WAR. There’s NOTHING the military can do.
Finally, I understand tons of scandals exist in America, but you sound awfully silly by saying the military can just go and take NASA funds to fight the war.
But it’s apparent that your emotions are clouding your ability to critically think. And it’s easier to sit here and accept the “cutting funds will hurt the troops” propaganda, while your “brothers” are over there in harm’s way. Only if you know how many of troops would wish Congress would act to get the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Kdogg said:@ NahNah
You just don’t get it, do you? I’m not arguing the legality of the war, or the powers of congress, or the powers of the President. I don’t think that the war should’ve ever been fought, I think Congress failed us , and I cant wait until Bush leaves office. With all of that said, Punishing the troops by ending their funding would be criminal!
Obviously since you don’t know anything about the military let me educate you on something. Congress is not part of a soldiers Chain of Command. However, the President is. And, unless lawmakers declare this war to be unlawful, then EVERY person in the Armed Forces is subordinate to the President. To disoey a lawful order is punishable under the UCMJ. Military law and Civilian law are not the same. As a soldier, you give up certain rights.
So with or without the extra funding, the war would still go on. The military does have a budget. There is money available. Cutting that funding will not stop the military. Certain monies originally earmarked for NASA and DOE, will go to the Military.
The only thing voting against war funding would have done is make the DOD have to become creative in where the money came from. Remember 1000 dollar hammers, anyone?
Voting against the funding would have hurt the soldiers/Marines long before it ever affected the President.
Maybe YOU can live with that. However most people with a conscience can’t.
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Exactly!
But haven’t you heard. Nah Nah is the most informed person on the planet. She’s the only person who REALLY wants to stop the war, solve the healthcare crisis, fight predatory lending and end all forms of oppression. And she has the (very simple) answers to all of this. ALL the politicians in Washington are uninformed war mongers they need to talk to Nah Nah because she’ll straighten them out. She can cure AIDS too. All this with out a grad degree…
News Flash:
The only person who is telling the truth about Iraq is John McCain. We are going to be there for a very long time. It was a mistake to go but we are there so like the Pottybarn…we broke it…we fix it. I support O but the new flash is no President worth their salt is getting us completly out of Iraq anytime soon. Reduction is troop levels yes but a complete withdrawal aint gonna happen captain.
And I never said Hillary Clinton did not have the best interest of the nation or people in general at heart. It’s her pursuit of the presidency that is suspect not her actions in service to the country.
But I’m sure you think Hillary is somehow hoping Iraquees die so she can take the oil and somehow manage to syphon that money to herself or whatever you conspiracy theorists are saying now days.
Having spent much time around politicians I can tell you that they are mostly driven by power not greed. Most of them are substantially wealthy already, and despite how horrible you think they all are most would not condone a war that they didn’t feel was necessary that goes for Democrat and Republican. The opposition is a cerebral one not a moral. That’s what I mean by well intentioned.
tj
>>>Obama isn’t REALLY interested in ending the war but simply posturing for votes.<<>>As for your claim that stopping funding would end the war that is incorrect. The unfortunate truth is congress is not the commander and chief until there is a new commander and chief funds would simply be re-allocated to ensure the truths were still funded.<<>>Cutting funding for troops is political suicide. You literally are not supporting the troops by doing so. when you vote to cut funding you vote to cut combat gear which puts American lives in danger. Furthermore I’m sure you’ve heard of a fillibuster if Obama had voted to cut funding it still never would have p*****ed.<<<
You’re right, but cutting funds for the WAR, would be a political victory, and that’s what Obama and his ilk have failed to do. I see you guys have no problem swallowing bull***** propaganda shoved down your throats by the corporate media, and the Democrats alike.
Unfortunately, black people have been getting *****ed up the ***** (with absolutely no lube) by the Democrats, who lie and lie and lie just to gain the black vote. They even go as far as putting a fraudulently anti-war, puppet negro on the front lines just to keep us…
Oh, and you still haven’t explained the other ways to end an unfavorable war such as this…
BTW: I will not address your half-baked attempt at psycho-*****yzing me…Please, refrain from making this discussion personal, and stick to the topic…thank you very much.
tj:
Regarding your post at 2:27pm:
It’s pretty obvious you’re a puppet for your government. Maybe you think racism is a figment of the black imagination, and that the government never intended on profiting off of slavery and the suffering of African peoples, because they’re not greedy , just power hungry?
And if you don’t believe in conspiracy theories, then I guess you don’t believe Osama Bin Laden blew up the towers.
What I notice about many Americans is that we will sit around and accept the evilness-corruptness-greediness of other governments, yet will get extremely defensive when someone suggest the nasty ways of our own. Of course, it’s a defense mechanism, since we’ve been taught to believe government is here to protect us…
BTW: you can’t have power without money. So stop…
@NahNah
Since you want to pull out excerpts from the US Constitution, maybe this will interest you:
Article II Section 2
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the prin*****l Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” U.S. Const. art. II, § 2, cl. 1.
The text, structure and history of the Constitution establish that the Founders entrusted the President with the primary responsibility, and therefore the power, to use military force in situations of emergency.
He is further vested with all of “the executive Power” and the duty to execute the laws. U.S. Const. art. II, § 1. These powers give the President broad constitutional authority to use military force in response to threats to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. During the period leading up to the Constitution’s ratification, the power to initiate hostilities and to control the escalation of conflict had been long understood to rest in the hands of the executive branch.
By their terms, these provisions vest full control of the military forces of the United States in the President. The power of the President is at its zenith under the Constitution when the President is directing military operations of the armed forces, because the power of Commander in Chief is *****igned solely to the President.
As I said before, Congress is not in the military’s Chain of Command. The President is, and if he gives an order, the military follows it…with or without the extra funding.
@Lost Skeleton
I agree. We never should have gone in the first place, but we have to strategically pullout. We have created a mess over there, not to mention a vacuum for terrorism. We also gave I ran free reign over our economy(oil). If we we pull out without creating some kind of REAL government over there, Iran will claim Iraq as its own. The pullout needs to be gradual but deliberate and unannounced. Even if a timetable exists, it should be known by as few as possible. Troop numbers and deployments should be cl*****ified info.
@tj
LOL! I don’t take NahNah too seriously. I find her amusing, at best. If she really is a “her.” What are you nahnah?
kdogg. I do in my heart of hearts what and end to our involement over there. I just think the security vacuum we leave behind would be far worst. I am upset that the Iraqis do not seem to be taken advantage of the surge to hash out some political solution to ensure we can get out without the situation getting much worst. The surge has worked in terms of lower deaths (Kerry’s idea by the way) but the lack of political progress in distresing. Unfortunatly (sp is horrible) I see a prolonged engagement and both Hilldog and O know it.
I disagree NahNah….we as Americans, especially Black America have resigned ourselves to letting those with money have power with the promise that we can either (1) join them by getting a piece of what they have or (2) resign ourselves to middle cl***** lives of quiet desperation. If people of collective thought can band together they can effect change (Civil Rights Movement, etc). Yes movements always get coorupted in the end but systems can change for the better with the power of the collective mob. I’m not naive, just a dreamer.
Nah Nah says:
tj:
Regarding your post at 2:27pm:
It’s pretty obvious you’re a puppet for your government. Maybe you think racism is a figment of the black imagination, and that the government never intended on profiting off of slavery and the suffering of African peoples, because they’re not greedy , just power hungry?
And if you don’t believe in conspiracy theories, then I guess you don’t believe Osama Bin Laden blew up the towers.
What I notice about many Americans is that we will sit around and accept the evilness-corruptness-greediness of other governments, yet will get extremely defensive when someone suggest the nasty ways of our own. Of course, it’s a defense mechanism, since we’ve been taught to believe government is here to protect us…
BTW: you can’t have power without money. So stop…
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THis is so backwards. First off matters of national security are far different from civil rights matters. For one these evil politicians of whom you speak LIVE AND WORK IN DC. If you think they aren’t acting in what they feel is America’s best interest safety wise then I don’t know what to tell you.
Also since I have several degrees I’m pretty clear on how corrupt our government is. But please define corrupt, because the secret oligarchy of which you speak (the one that supposedly picks presidents and controls the world right along with Dr. evil) does not exist.
Also damn you caught me I am a puppet and I whole heartedly support racism. The cats out of the bag. Once again you are better informed and morally superior. Damn nothing gets p***** you. I’m gonna go ahead and ignore you from now on I think people are pretty clear on the fact that you’re and idiot and a nut job.
@ Kdogg:
I guess I have to keep repeating myself until it registers in your brain:
So here I go again…
The constitution gives congress the authority to DECLARE, FUND, and END war.
The constitution gives congress the authority to REGULATE the military.
The constitution gives the president the authority to DIRECT the military.
It’s very important that you understand the difference between DIRECT(command) and REGULATE(salary, funding, age requirement…)….
Without approval of congress, the president cannot:
wage war.
fund war.
continue war.
And let’s not mention, congress’ power to impeach, if the president decides to take too much power he doesn’t posess.
You need basic comprehension skills if you think our “founding fathers” allowed the president to do whatever the ***** he wants. If that’s the case, then why did congress have to approve the war to begin with?
The truth is, the constitution gives the commander-in chief – authority to CONDUCT the war AFTER it has been declared by congress…
*Sigh* The Dems, including Obama, are playing with your heads. They want to stay in Iraq just as much as Bush does, but they have to pretend otherwise in order to garner votes. And smart Americans know this, hence the flocking to alternate parties…
They know their war powers, as they are clearly present in the constitution.
Lost Skeleton:
What is it that you disagree with, because I agree with everything you just said in that particular paragraph.
NahNah,
Youre hopeless.
When was the last time Congress declared war? How many times has the US ever declared war?
I’ll help you. The last formal declaration of war from the US came during WWII. The US has only declared war 5 times.
Vietnam, Op Desert Storm, The “war” in Afghanistan, and Op Iraqi Freedom were never declared wars. However, we found ourselves in those skirmishes anyway under the
President(s) “sole” command.
Congress cannot shut down a war unless it declares the war to be unconstitutional and they cannot declare a war to be unconstitutional if it hasnt been declared a war to begin with.
From the US Constitution:
Article II Section 2
“The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States.
This means that if the President says go…the military goes. Congress can try to cut the funding all they want. Again as I have told you before, that would hurt the troops before it ever hurt the President. Not only that, Congress doesn’t have the Constitutional authority to interfere with the President using his Constitutional authority to defend the nation against all threats.
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
As long as the President continues with *****ertion that he is “defending” us, Congress can’t stop him. Again, unless they declare the war to be unlawful, the military has to listen to him.
Clinton will win nevada and gain a momentum to win south carolina, Obama had the opportunity to kill Clinton in NH, he lets this one p*****, i think it’s over… The clinton mafia is way too powerfull
Are u Ashanti by any chance Nahnah?
Are u Ashanti by any chance Nahnah?
Kdogg, why do you keep arguing against what the constitution states? No matter what you say, it is what it is…
The issue of whether or not the president has the authority to declare war(formal or NOT) should not be up for debate, as the answer is clearly written in Article 1. Section 8 of the United States Constitution(law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articlei.html). In other words, the power to declare war lies in the hands of congress and congress only. There is no if’s, and’s, or but’s about it. To that end, any war declared(formal or NOT) by the president is unconstitutional. And while it’s a well-known fact that Bush does not respect the constitution – he still sought congressional approval before invading Iraq and Afghanistan – as he knew the legal and political ramifications of not doing so…
Furthermore, Article 2 Section 2 that you keep bringing up only grants the president authority to command the military, NOT declare(formal or NOT) sole discretion. It must be approved/declared(formal or NOT) by the legislative branch. Only a dictatorship would allow such practice by a president…
Going back to congress…
Congress is aware of the illegality of this war/occupation.
Congress know the war/occupation is unconstitutional.
Congress is aware of the war powers permitted by the US constitution.
Congress is aware of their authority to impeach a president if he oversteps his boundaries – especially when he’s unpopular amongst ‘we the people’.
Congress does not want the troops out of Iraq.
Congress accepts bribes from lobbyists.
Congress voted against the Fiengold-Kerry Amendment -which sought to partially and strategically withdraw the troops from the Middle East within the course of a year.
Congress, like the president, does not respect the constitution.
Congress can force withdrawal of troops by controlling funds.
Are u Ashanti by any chance Nahnah?
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Article Section 8.
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, *****nals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;–And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Correction: Article 1. Section 8.
NahNah you can keep reposting the same stuff over and over and it still does not change the fact that:
The Constitution grants the President “sole” command of the military. Article II Section 2
Which basically means that when he gives them a lawful order, they must obey it and Congress has no power to give any orders to the military. Even if Congress were to actually “declare war,” they still would not have any Constitutional authority over the military. They could not deploy or direct them. That is left to the Executive Branch, which the President heads.
I have conceded that Congress can declare war. Yet war has not been declared since WWII. The President does not need Congress’ approval to protect the nation. That has been this Administrations justification since the war started. I don’t agree with it. I know that its an excuse to keep the power in the hands of the Executive Branch but that doesn’t change the fact that our troops will be hurt first and the most by cuts in war funding.
Even if Congress stopped the extra funding, they would still have to provide for salaries, food, lodging, and national defense. Which again the administration considers the Iraq war part of our nations defense. Even with reduced funding, the military could still carry out the mission albeit less effectively. Since they would have to ration supplies like ammo, armor, communications, etc.. Who do you think they will blame?
In the military there is a thing called rank structure. The military member must adhere to and follow the lawful orders of those that outank him or are in their chain of command. The prseident is in that Chain but Congress isn’t.
Even if the entire Congress stood in front of a soldier and told him to “go left” and the President told him to “go right”, the soldier is legally obligated to follow the President’s “lawful” orders. Congress is not in the Chain of command. That’s why we would still be over there without the extra funding. Congress should not be trying to cut the funding, they should be trying to declare the war illegal. That would make the Presidents orders illegal/unlawful and then the military could legally choose not to obey them.
>>>The Constitution grants the President “sole” command of the military. Article II Section 2
Which basically means that when he gives them a lawful order, they must obey it and Congress has no power to give any orders to the military. Even if Congress were to actually “declare war,” they still would not have any Constitutional authority over the military. They could not deploy or direct them. That is left to the Executive Branch, which the President heads.<<<
Please direct me when it says the president shall hae sole command of the military…
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Article 2 Section 2:
Section 2. The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States; he may require the opinion, in writing, of the prin*****l officer in each of the executive departments, upon any subject relating to the duties of their respective offices, and he shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint amb*****adors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments.
The President shall have power to fill up all vacancies that may happen during the recess of the Senate, by granting commissions which shall expire at the end of their next session.
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>>>Even if Congress were to actually “declare war,” they still would not have any Constitutional authority over the military. They could not deploy or direct them. That is left to the Executive Branch, which the President heads.<<>>The President does not need Congress’ approval to protect the nation. That has been this Administrations justification since the war started. I don’t agree with it. I know that its an excuse to keep the power in the hands of the Executive Branch but that doesn’t change the fact that our troops will be hurt first and the most by cuts in war funding.<<<
1. The Despite the pre-war rhetoric of the Bush Administration and many Republicans and Democrats, the “protect the nation” mantra was proven to be a farce a few months after they went into Iraq, and that was in 2003! We are now in 2008!!!!!!!
2. Despite the dictatorial opinions of the “president” and many others, the president cannot wage war on his own – as it’s not permitted by the constitution. So going back to my original statement: CONGRESS HAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL POWER TO STOP THE WAR.
3. In a country where laws speak, the opinions of a president wouldn’t mean anything if we had congress people who were willing to challenge him. But since the majority of those in congress are pro-war (eventhough some mascarade as the oppositite: Obama), they are not interested in utilizing their WAR POWERS to end it.
4. Again, and again, and again, the troops will NOT be hurt by cutting funds, and that is because congress has the power to provide CONDITIONAL FUNDING, which will not cut funds related directly to the troops. Which part of that do no you not understand?
>>>Even if Congress stopped the extra funding, they would still have to provide for salaries, food, lodging, and national defense. Which again the administration considers the Iraq war part of our nations defense. Even with reduced funding, the military could still carry out the mission albeit less effectively. Since they would have to ration supplies like ammo, armor, communications, etc.. Who do you think they will blame?<<<
Again, this is a MYTH.
1. I will say it again…Even when congress approves funding for Iraq and Afghanistan, all poritions of funds will go to a specific aspect of the war. In result, troops can and WILL recieive EVERYTHING they need to survive until they make it home.
2. A president cannot use ice cream money to buy cake.
Kdogg:
By your logic, there’s no way out of of Iraq and Afghanistan, and that’s an ignorantly false way of thinking.
1. American troops being in the middle east automatically put them in harm’s way – and anyone who honestly care for them, will advocate for their withdrawal instead of hiding behind a “we’re going to hurt them if you stop approving billions of dollars” mask.
2. Those who claim to care so much for the troops, and advocate them to stay in the Middle East turn a blind eye to their suffering when many of them make it to the states, depressed, unemployed, and unsheltered.
3. Anybody with a half of a working brain will see that everything, including contracts to Halliburton, is about ‘funding the troops’.
4. The “Funding the troops” bunch will continue their propaganda 10 years on if that’s what’s needed to keep the imperialism going in Iraq.
5. Democrats won the mid term elections on the platform that they’d bring the troops home. So why are they still there?
6. “No No No, we’re hurting the troops” has been deeply implemented in the collective conscious of the average American, by both the Republicans and the Democrats, and that’s sad…
I remember last year when I met a homeless Iraqi vet in NYC. Being that I have a motor mouth, we stood out in cold and talked for hours, and the first thing he told me is that the same people who pretended to have supported him when he was sent to Iraq are the same ones who now walk around with their normal lives, looking at him up and down, in disgust, like he’s a menace to society. And while that was the first and only Iraqi vet I’ve met, I’ve met a bunch of Vietnam vets with the same accusations…
I tell you, this herd menatality is what’s going to lead America to a very dangerous path.
The ONLY way to support our troops is to bring them home to safety. Letting them stay in Iraq and Afghanistan, in harm’s way, is NOT supporting them. And many of the troops are counting on Americans to help them come home to their family and friends.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
BRING THEM HOME!
I’d like to ***** slap the dumb ho who wrote this. Obama is the worst possible candidate. He has absolutely no experience. I’d rather a Republican in office.
And for the record, us black folks definitely shouldn’t vote for someone just because they’re black. That’s disrespectful to all the history we have behind us and all that we’ve acheived as a race. As a “reporter” you should remain more neutral and let people form their own judgements.
TO The Editor’s Post:
“Why do these civil rights era negroes want three decades of the Bush and Clinton families? Dr. King wouldn’t be supporting that sh*t.”
Firstly, I doubt that you are qualified to speak on Dr. King’s behalf and Secondly, and most importantly, Dr. King would never advocate his people to choose a candidate based on the color of his skin and not the content of his character…do you remember the “I Have a Dream” speech? It’s an insult to Dr. King’s legacy that you promote the choosing of Barack Obama on the basis of his race and not on who he has proven himself to be. Check yo’self, People!
This is my last post in this thread since it appears that you will tirelessly cling on to your flawed opinion in your sea of conspiracy even when offered a lifesaver in the form of the Truth.
Article 2 Section 2 of the US Constitution gives the the President “SOLE” command of the military. hence the name “Commander in Chief.”
Article II Section II.
The President shall be commander in chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the militia of the several states, when called into the actual service of the United States
That means the military does, whatever the President tells it to do. There is no gray area there. The President is in the military’s chain of command while Congress is not.
You are right. Only Congress can declare war. However, again I must point out that We are not in a declared war This administration has successfully argued that this “war” is a conlict that is the result of the nation defending itself. By using this “defense of the nation” definition and refusing to declare it a war, the administration is keeping the decision out of the hands of Congress.
You are so naive in thinking that Congress actually oversees or even has the ability to oversee the proper appropriation of DOD funds. They may designate a certain amount to the military but the DOD actually divvies it up. As I said before, remember the $1000 hammers? Yeah they can cut out the supplemental “Global War on Terror” funds but the annual appropriations (the money the military would be getting even if there was no war) would be untouched. Congress would not dare touch the regular/annual appropriation since that money is actually needed to maintain the country’s defense.
Without the extra war funding, the military would just get creative in getting money. They would also cutback on things that are in place for the troops morale and welfare.
The war will go on unless Congress declares the war to be illegal or there is an administration change. Even then, the pullout will have to be calculated, steady, and unannounced.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
DON’T CUT THE FUNDING THAT ALSO HELPS PAY FOR THEIR PROTECTIVE ARMOR, AND MORALE BOOSTERS LIKE PHONE CALLS AND FLIGHTS HOME, HOT MEALS, HEALTHCARE, LAUNDRY SERVICES, INTERNET ACCESS, SATELLITE TV,DAILY MAIL SERVICE, TRANSLATORS, AND INFORMANTS!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
DON’T CUT THE FUNDING THAT ALSO HELPS PAY FOR THEIR PROTECTIVE ARMOR, AND MORALE BOOSTERS LIKE PHONE CALLS AND FLIGHTS HOME, HOT MEALS, HEALTHCARE, LAUNDRY SERVICES, INTERNET ACCESS, SATELLITE TV,DAILY MAIL SERVICE, TRANSLATORS, AND INFORMANTS!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.
DON’T CUT THE FUNDING THAT ALSO HELPS PAY FOR THEIR PROTECTIVE ARMOR, AND MORALE BOOSTERS LIKE PHONE CALLS AND FLIGHTS HOME, HOT MEALS, HEALTHCARE, LAUNDRY SERVICES, INTERNET ACCESS, SATELLITE TV,DAILY MAIL SERVICE, TRANSLATORS, AND INFORMANTS!
@Kdogg
>>>This is my last post in this thread since it appears that you will tirelessly cling on to your flawed opinion in your sea of conspiracy even when offered a lifesaver in the form of the Truth.<<>> That means the military does, whatever the President tells it to do. There is no gray area there. The President is in the military’s chain of command while Congress is not. <<<
LISTEN/READ: I ALWAYS THE SAID THE PRESIDENT COMMANDS THE MILITARY – AND NEVER DID I SAY NO TO THAT. HOWEVER, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION (ARE YOU AWARE OF THE CONSTITUTION?) GIVES CONGRESS CERTAIN RIGHTS OVER THE MILITARY. YOU READ IT YOUR DAMN SELF, AND STOP RECYCLING YOUR GARBAGE TO FILL UP YOUR NON-EXISTENT ARGUMENT. DAMN!
Seriously, are you slow, Kdogg? I mean…Go to ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8, and you’ll see the powers of congress.
Here, I’ll help you out:
- To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water
- To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years
- To provide and maintain a navy
- To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
- To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
- To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress
I think your problem is you lack basic comprehension skills, which prohibits you from understanding the difference between REGULATE and DIRECT/COMMAND. Just take your time and read it over a few times to get an understand of what they really mean…
@kdogg
>>>This is my last post in this thread since it appears that you will tirelessly cling on to your flawed opinion in your sea of conspiracy even when offered a lifesaver in the form of the Truth.<<>> That means the military does, whatever the President tells it to do. There is no gray area there. The President is in the military’s chain of command while Congress is not. <<<
LISTEN/READ: I ALWAYS THE SAID THE PRESIDENT COMMANDS THE MILITARY – AND NEVER DID I SAY NO TO THAT. HOWEVER, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION GIVES CONGRESS CERTAIN RIGHTS OVER THE MILITARY(NOT COMMAND). YOU READ IT YOUR DAMN SELF, AND STOP RECYCLING YOUR GARBAGE TO FILL UP YOUR NON-EXISTENT ARGUMENT. D-AMN!
IN ADDITION, THE GEORGE BUSH CANNOT DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. SO, EVEN IF GEORGE BUSH COMMANDS THE MILITARY, HE CANNOT COMMAND THEM TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE HE, AS THE PRESIDENT, CANNOT DO WHATEVER HE WANTS(Only dictators do whatever they want!). What is it that’s so hard for you to understand, here?
It’s really easy….George Bush commands the military, yet George Bush cannot LEGALLY declare war(FORMAL OR NOT). Therefore, there’s a limit on what Bush can do as president and commander of the military, because he doesn’t have certain power unless congress grant them to him.
Seriously, are you slow, Kdogg? I mean…Go to ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8, and you’ll see the powers of congress.
Here, I’ll help you out:
- To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water
- To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years
- To provide and maintain a navy
- To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces
- To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
- To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
I think your problem is you lack basic comprehension skills, which prohibits you from understanding the difference between REGULATE and DIRECT/COMMAND.
con’t…
^This is my last post in this thread since it appears that you will tirelessly cling on to your flawed opinion in your sea of conspiracy even when offered a lifesaver in the form of the Truth.^
I think you’re giving up because you’re tired of pulling half-baked information out of your *****. There’s nothing TRUTHFUL about what you’re saying here. My argument is based 100% on the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, while yours is based on ignorance and what George Bush says…
My actual response – Bossp effing up again…
^This is my last post in this thread since it appears that you will tirelessly cling on to your flawed opinion in your sea of conspiracy even when offered a lifesaver in the form of the Truth.^
I think you’re giving up because you’re tired of pulling half-baked information out of your *****. There’s nothing TRUTHFUL about what you’re saying here. My argument is based 100% on the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, while yours is based on ignorance and what George Bush says…
^ That means the military does, whatever the President tells it to do. There is no gray area there. The President is in the military’s chain of command while Congress is not. ^
LISTEN/READ: I ALWAYS THE SAID THE PRESIDENT COMMANDS THE MILITARY – AND NEVER DID I SAY NO TO THAT. HOWEVER, ARTICLE 1, SECTION 8, OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION GIVES CONGRESS CERTAIN RIGHTS OVER THE MILITARY. YOU READ IT YOUR DAMN SELF, AND STOP RECYCLING YOUR GARBAGE TO FILL UP YOUR NON-EXISTENT ARGUMENT. DAMN!
IN ADDITION, THE GEORGE BUSH CANNOT DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. SO, EVEN IF GEORGE BUSH COMMANDS THE MILITARY, HE CANNOT COMMAND THEM TO DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE HE, AS THE PRESIDENT, CANNOT DO WHATEVER HE WANTS. What is it that’s so hard for you to understand
It’s really easy….George Bush commands the military, yet George Bush cannot LEGALLY declare war(FORMAL OR NOT). Therefore, there’s a limit on what Bush can do as president and commander of the military, because he doesn’t have certain power unless congress grant them to him.
Seriously, are you slow, Kdogg? I mean…Go to ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8, and you’ll see the powers of congress.
Here, I’ll help you out:
- To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water
- To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years
- To provide and maintain a navy
- To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
- To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions
- To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress
I think your problem is you lack basic comprehension skills, which prohibits you from understanding the difference between REGULATE and DIRECT/COMMAND.
con’t …
^You are right. Only Congress can declare war. However, again I must point out that We are not in a declared war This administration has successfully argued that this “war” is a conlict that is the result of the nation defending itself. By using this “defense of the nation” definition and refusing to declare it a war, the administration is keeping the decision out of the hands of Congress.^
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BULL*****.
1. Your argument is flawed…
2. The purpose of war, in theory, is to defend and protect your nation. So what the hell are you talking ’bout?
3. The pretense for the war was to remove Saddam and stop his nuclear activities.
4. No weapons of m***** destruction have been found in Iraq – even after nearly 5 years. LIE.
5. Saddam has been dead for sometime now.
6. The Niger Uranium – LIE.
7. Everything has been declared a fraud.
8. There’s overwhelming proof that the president LIED AND LIED AND LIED AND LIED to the people, therefore CONGRESS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER, PER THE CONSTITUTION, TO END THIS MADNESS ONCE AND FOR ALL.
9. The administration didn’t successfully argue *****, for the reasons I stated above, AND because POLLS AFTER POLLS AFTER POLLS prove that the VAST MAJORITY of Americans want the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. And since congress works for WE THE PEOPLE, they are legally obligated to end the madness. AND THEY CAN. AND THEY PROMISED TO END IT DURING THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, AND THAT’S THE PLATFORM THEY WERE ELECTED ON!!!
10. If the administration is keeping congress out of it, as you so ignorantly put it, then how come congress is approving the funds and every war-related bill out there? huh? Do you not see that you make absolutely no sense?
11. Last but not least, whether formally declared or not, IT’S NOT STILL A *****ING WAR. Gosh!
con’t…
^You are so naive in thinking that Congress actually oversees or even has the ability to oversee the proper appropriation of DOD funds. They may designate a certain amount to the military but the DOD actually divvies it up. As I said before, remember the $1000 hammers? Yeah they can cut out the supplemental “Global War on Terror” funds but the annual appropriations (the money the military would be getting even if there was no war) would be untouched. Congress would not dare touch the regular/annual appropriation since that money is actually needed to maintain the country’s defense.
Without the extra war funding, the military would just get creative in getting money. They would also cutback on things that are in place for the troops morale and welfare.^
Congress DOES oversea DOD funds, you idiot. Please, Kdogg, do your *****ing research before you type, you lazy ignoramous.
Also, as I said before, Bush cannot take cake money to buy icecream. It’s that simple.
Congress makes the rules when it comes to money.
Congress provides the funds, and allocate them accordingly.
Congress must know where every bit of money goes.
The DOD like every other department within the United States of America, MUST report to congress.
In other words, CONGRESS HAVE THE POWER OF THE PURSE. Do you get that?
^The war will go on unless Congress declares the war to be illegal or there is an administration change. Even then, the pullout will have to be calculated, steady, and unannounced.^
Unannounced my *****. Where is your sources for this claim? Do you not realize you’re living in the United States of America? Regardless of how many presidents and other politicians who try to disregard the laws of the land, they still exist, and opinions and emotions matter none in court?
Kdogg said: SUPPORT OUR TROOPS.DON’T CUT THE FUNDING THAT ALSO HELPS PAY FOR THEIR PROTECTIVE ARMOR, AND MORALE BOOSTERS LIKE PHONE CALLS AND FLIGHTS HOME, HOT MEALS, HEALTHCARE, LAUNDRY SERVICES, INTERNET ACCESS, SATELLITE TV,DAILY MAIL SERVICE, TRANSLATORS, AND INFORMANTS!
nahnah says: My god, for someone who advocate individuality, you sure as hell ain’t take it upon yourself to feed that brain of yours.
I said it before, and I’ll say it again…
PER THE CONSTITUTION, congress HAS THE POWER to provide conditional funding, which can FUND THE TROOPS, and NOT THE WAR.
Do you understand what that means? If not, then do some research, and stop polluting this earth with your dumbness.
So, again, I say…
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS – BRING THEM HOME.
CUT WAR FUNDING, AND NOT TROOP FUNDING.
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
BRING THE TROOPS HOME, NOW!
Kdogg -
You’re ignorant, and it’s a shame.
My initial argument was regarding the funds congress keep approving to continue the war, and I am right, because if congress cut funds, and appropriate them accordingly, the troops will still have EVERYTHING they need to survive, until the come home.
Also, I made the argument that Obama, and the rest of his congress critters, are not anti-war, and that they have the ultimate power, per the constitution, to end it right now, and I am right.
1. The war was fought under false and fraudulent pretenses, which is punishable via impeachment, as it’s a high crime.
2. Congress can easily unauthorize the war.
3. Congress can declare the war unconstitutional.
4. Congress can cut all war-related funding, and continue to fund the troops, by way of conditional funding.
5. Congress have several war powers, per the constitution, and can, in no doubt, end the war.
BUT CONGRESS DOESN’T WANT TO.
CONGRESS IS OVERWHELMINGLY PRO WA
OBAMA IS A FRAUDULENT, ANTI-WAR CANDIDATE, AND YOU’RE A SHEEP.
And that ‘morale’ ***** is played-out. Seriously, where is the ‘morale’ in killing, and occupying, especially in a false, fraudulent, criminal war such as this one? I’m sure it’s easier for you to say this, since you’re like here and all…
What a shame.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME!