How many times must I remind you that the popular vote means nothing compared to the elecoral votes. Gore only won the popular vote by .5% . Not only that, even if he got Naders votes, he would have only gained 2.7% more votes. Not exactly the landslide that they were looking for since the current administration had been so popular.

I pointed out how many states were carried to show the glaring differences between the elections. I also pointed out how Clinton had more than double the electoral votes as his competition. Gore and Bush were neck and neck. It shouldn’t have been close. Even if Gore had won Florida and subsequently the election, the Dems would have been wondering why it was so close.

Gore didn’t even win his home state…Tennessee, a state the Clinton won the previous election.

Gore lost the entire Bible belt. Wonder why?

A successful administation and the sitting VP should not have lost the election. Even Clinton himself has admitted that he may have hurt Gores candidacy. Why is it so hard for you to accept it.

We have reached a point in this discussion where it is obviously pointless to continue. You are going to continue to believe what you want to and I’m not changing my mind on this issue either. I am not interested in going any further with this so you can have th rest of this thread to yourself. I will not be back. C-ya.

LOL!!!! At least white feminists have been nothing else but consistent for the last 100+ years…

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NOW Memo Translation:

Dear Ted Kennedy,

White women first.

Betrayed,

NOWW

And it may not come down to race, patriarchy may trump race. I sincerely doubt that a woman with Obama’s limited National electoral background would be where he is today.

why don’t you want to acknowledge that Clinton had favorable approval ratings during the Gore campaign and after he left the white house? You know why? because it’s convenient for you to just use Bill Clinton as a scapegoat instead of looking more closely at other compounding variables that contributed to his demise. The fact that Bush carried 30- Gores 20 States means little when Gore not only won the popular vote and only lost by four or five electoral college votes. If Gore had won Florida than Bush would have lost the election having won 29 states to Gore’s 21. You say that it shouldn’t have come down to Florida, but there were other battleground states that were split by third party votes. So it’s not a matter or who won more states than the other.

Your Bill Clinton culprit tunnel vision is keeping you from placing blame on the man who was running the campaign himself, Al Gore. And yes, a third party candidate can gain enough traction to split a vote? Nader voters leaned heavily liberal or independent, something that Gore wasn’t. Many of which were looking for an alternative to the two party system and voted for Nader. Nader took nearly 100K votes in Florida which would have put Gore up and over the top. Nader split the vote in battleground states that made a difference when all was said and done. Those people voting for Ralph weren’t voting for him because of Bill’s affair.

To you, if Monica-gate hadn’t happened, then Gore would have won, and it’s just not that simple. The country was coming out of recession at the end of Bush senior’s term, when the Clintons came into power, and even without any scandalous affairs and a growing economy, the republicans still managed to take over the House and Senate in 1994. Was that Bill’s fault too? What about Gore’s choice of Liberman as a running mate? You don’t think that didn’t make people in “red states” raise eyebrows? Of course it didn’t. Cause it was all Bill’s fault!

What about Iowa. Obamas support came from majority whites. Bill Clinton enjoyed a majority of the “black vote in SC when he ran.” I bet you didnt say it was about race then. The only reason you think its about race now is because an actual black man is running.

Micheles’ comments came almost a year ago.

Micheles’ comments were also based on facts. Billarys attack comments have been consisitent and recent. Billarys comments have also distorted the truth and have been aimed at polarizing Obama.

Heed your own advice. You need to wake up and get smart.

The Kennedy’s, you talk about dirty politics. This is laughable. If I was running for president, I would want him to endorse my opponent.

It is amazing how the media’s negativity for the Clintons have played folks. Why is it that Obama gets positive coverage, even when he attacks first and his campaign put things out there on Hillary. And that Hillary gets all the negative coverage, when she tries to defend herself. The media has definitely twisted things around making Hillary out to be the villain. Obama benefits greatly with the media coverage and with it being one sided. It is amazing how folk feed and buy into this.

I am completely convinced that this election is about race, especially seeing what happened in South Carolina. There is no other reason. People know no more than they no of Ron Paul, well they know more about Ron Paul’s record than Obama’s record, but Obama is chosen because he is a black guy with charisma and oratory skills, over a woman who has proven herself and knowing what she is capable of doing for this country.

Does anyone really care about this country? This country is declining and there is no time to play favorites, not in this day and time. Obama is in training and does not have the experience to put this economy back into good standing, nor does he provide a strong conviction in how he will run things. The change he will bring, is that he is black and having a black president is that change -is all he is saying to me. People who are backing him – the congressional leaders are waiting to ***** him in the *****. It will be payday for them. Obama is easily persuaded, and does not have the leadership skills to run this powerful country. He does not have the ability to deal with other countries on the level that we need to rebuild relationships. Other countries, with stronger leaders are going to eat us alive if Obama gets in. I like Obama and everybody wants and wishes to be president, but too much is on the line to be playing politics. I have been trying to decide which candidate to choose, but made my mind up seeing and knowing what I know now, I just don’t think he has it.

He showed a sign of weakness, when he started whinning about Hillary’s attacks and claimed Bill too was ganging up on him. What about his wife, Michelle, who is out there throwing jabs at both Hillary and her husband Bill? The media is not covering Michelle’s attack, but every single thing that comes out of Hillary or Bills mouth, it is twisted in the media as a negative. If Obama can’t take the heat, then he needs to get out of the kitchen. It is ironic though because he was whinning, how the other leaders came to his rescue – this is not a leader. It is because those are the congressional leaders that do not like the Clintons and can not have their way with them. John Kerry is definitely a madman and a user. He will use you for whatever, but if you don’t go along with him, he will turn bull dog on you. Ted Kennedy wants favors and knows he will have Obama on a damn puppet string.

You folk are better wake up and be smart.