Obama Rides on Hillary: Clinton’s ‘Experience’ Got Us Into This Iraq Mess

Posted on January 30th, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Barack Obama, Bolitics, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

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Barack Obama took the gloves off on Hillary (who voted for the Iraq War) today in Denver:

“I know it is tempting — after another presidency by a man named George Bush — to simply turn back the clock, and to build a bridge back to the 20th century,” the Illinois senator said in Denver.

“… It’s not enough to say you’ll be ready from Day One — you have to be right from Day One,” he added in unmistakable criticisms of Clinton, who often claims she’s better prepared to govern, and her husband, who pledged during his own presidency to build a bridge to the 21st century.”It is time for new leadership that understands the way to win a debate with John McCain or any Republican who is nominated is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq or who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran, who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don’t like, who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed,” Obama said.

Click here to read highlights of the bold and truthful speech.

Click here to watch a video covering the background of Obama.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • VictoriousOne…

    2nd!!

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    **acceptance speech**

    “Again, it is truly an honor–especially after the controversial post about Ms. Angelou the…er..ex…well, we all know. Well, as the ol folks say..Give me my flowers…you know the rest!”

  • VictoriousOne…

    So he’s blaming Billary for the Iraq War?

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    @ VictoriousOne…

    Do we have to stay on topic and if so, how long? Lol!

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    **scrolling up to read post**

  • Tubbs

    Go Obama.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    Why (does it seem) they only attack each other? Is it that no one else is running?

    BTW– I read where Edwards and Guliani are supposeldy dropping out. Is that true?

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    Damn.

    This should be interesting.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    Is it true that Guil;iana and Edwards are dropping out?

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    * Gulliani

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    **pulling up NYPost online edition**

  • titi

    It’s the Clinton campaign that is messing up their chances to have him as vp, not the other way around.

  • Whitegirl

    Obama 08!

  • Leroy N. Skillet

    Edwards & Guliani dropped out this morning. Damn shame about Edwards…Out the three Dems., at least he stayed with the issues. Obama and Hillary of late has been playing the political equivalent of the dozens.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    Thanks Leroy!

    Lol @ the picture–

    Obama’s looking at her as if to say—–

    “Hoe, sit yo a$$ down!”

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com Shouldn’t we just call her an “ex-prostitue?”

    I don’t know about this..I’m kinda uneasy about a woman who dyes her eyebrows.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com Shouldn’t we just call her an “ex-prostitute?”

    Sorry, I forgot my “t”.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals

    Testing gravie and changing my name back!

    Lol!!

  • zen

    Obama sucks! Go Hillary!

  • nahnah

    goldnprncss:

    When has this country ever been ‘together’? I’m just wondering, that’s all…

  • omg

    Who cares? Big deal? We only care how to find these celerbities. Luckily, I found one. That’s Britney Spears. seems she is finding her son a new father on interracialloves . c om. It is a site for singles to mingle. It’s said she’s very popular there.

  • Michelle

    I hate to say this put I am hoping that if Obama makes it 24 hours after he gets elected. Those damn KKK and those other phony goverment organizations are not going to have it.

  • anonymous

    maya harlot angelou called in on MSNBC and said “we all americans should remember that Hillary is not an old woman, she’s a woman.”

    excuse me, but what the hell does that mean? the old fart couldn’t even give a legit reason for why she supports clinton…….even the white political commentators laughed and gave a look of huh???

    Hillary is a liar…if obama doesn’t get the democratic nomination, I’ll still give him an A plus for effort. after all this is a man who many said wouldn’t even get this far let alone be president. but offcourse history has proven that millions of dumb americans vote for the wrong president, and complain about the country being in a bad shape later on down the road. i.e. BUSH. i hope John Mccain whoops that ass if Obama looses.

  • http://www.myspace.com/antbo0gz bo0ggz

    fight back O ii aint mad atcha

  • Joe

    This why I dont like Obama

  • Mark

    nahnah

  • Natalia Smith

    Obama Needs to lay off… and this site needs to stop kissing his ass

  • Wenzel Dashington

    Edwards dropped out today. So, Obama is trying to get Edwards’ 15% of the vote. To do it he has to give those “I’m going to fight for you” “rah-rah” Edwards-type speeches leading into Super Tuesday. He’ll have a more aggressive edge than you are used to, but he won’t disrespect Hillary. Stay tuned. It’s for a purpose.

  • bubothehater

    Obama is simply a dynamic speaker with 1960′s (failed) ideas. It was pretty easy to oppose the Iraqwar when he was a back burner IL State senator in corrupt IL. Hillary, Obama and Edwards have pretty much the same ideas, but people hate Hillary, Edwards is a snake oil salesman who built his legal career on junk science and Obama has been in senate 3 years and running for preident for 3.5. None had much experience and Obama may be able to catch lightening in a bottle as people love him. The democratic campaign was a pure personality contest with Obama having a shot because he tries not to get dirty like the Clintons (it amazes me that former Clinton d-ckriders are finally catching on to their corruption and the fact they will say anything to win). He gets no criticism from the media and he is the golden child.

  • Dr. Strangelove

    “It was pretty easy to oppose the Iraqwar when he was a …IL State senator in …IL”

    I agree with “Hater” on that one. It’s one thing to tell a cop what he/she needs to do, but its a whole other ball game to be in that person’s shoes. True, Hillary voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq. As did almost every other Senator at that time. I do find it funny, however, that no one wants to take Obama to task for voting to provide over $300 billion (yes, billion) to fund the very war he supposedly was/is against. Thoughts?

  • BKkid

    He could say suck my left nut and ya’ll would root him on. Give me a break

  • James

    Obama,Hilary and McCain are all members of the Council of foreign relations and that is a fact. If anyone knows anything, you will know that this organization is above the law, in fact, they create their own laws and your laws. However, i will act like the rest of the brainwashed popluation and comment on obama becoming president. Obama will defeat hilary in the primaries, it will be a close one, he will beat her by a narrow margin. He will then move on to be president, Edwards may decide to be his vice president, its still unknown if he accepted. But before that, Obama will defeat McCain easily and become the first African-American president in history, after that he will sign a few laws in his first 8 months of office and the economy will slowly turn around.

  • 99 problems but a ……

    LOL at people saying he needs to fallback from pouncing on Clinton! didn’t she accuse him of working for a slumlord? along with many other unfounded accusations she tried to troll up , she has been reachin’ and SIGH SIGH SIGH at black people!! Why is it that Obama has more public endorsements from white people than black? Why when theres finally a black canidate that can win do you morons want to have a PRESTINE POLITICIAN?

    No, he probably is not always right, made and will make mistakes, made decisions based on his political career, what the hell do u expect?

    a clean politician is like finding a responsible crackhead..but based on what I have concluded about Obama , his stance on civil rights, and wanting to create a “transparent” presidency by allowing the American people a chance to view all the bills that are purposed ..I think I’ll roll with him.. maybe he’s idealistic but I’ll be COT DAMNED if I follow the CHAIN GAIN with so many other misinformed Negro’s and cling on to MRS. CLINTONS coatails man I just feel like going Lawrence Fishburn IN “School Daze” on y’all asses and scream WAKE UUUUUUUUUUUUP!

  • nahnah

    Yes, Mark?

  • nahnah

    @ Julie,

    I am in that area, so maybe I should check them out sometime this week or next?

  • nahnah

    BKkid:

    haha, true dat! These people are so damn gullible, it’s sickening!

  • tj

    Yes he needs to become very aggressive in his attack against the “Status quo” to pick up the Edwards vote. At least the northern portion of the Edwards vote.

  • anonymous

    Obama was the only one not to support the war,from the get go. just because he didn’t support the war doesn’t mean he shouldn’t support the troops. what was obama supposed to do? not vote to send more weapons and supplies after his cohorts stupidly voted for the war? Not vote to increase funding to supply better armor? he was supporting the troops. period. but he never supporteed the war. period.

  • Dr. Strangelove

    @ Julie and Nahnah

    Did Julie’s moguldom comment get deleted? As Little Richard says, “Somebody help me!”

  • Dr. Strangelove

    Damn, it happened again. Something just ain’t right. Nahrah, please enlighten us. NO, maybe not. the “powers” that want us to be pro-Obama may try to silence you. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

  • nahnah

    As Little Richard says, “Somebody help me!”

    - – - – - – - -

    ROTFLMAO!

    Why do I have Little Richard’s voice in my head? HAHAHA!!!

  • nahnah

    How many negro’s you know speak Mandarin Chinese?

    - – - – - – - – - -

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    eXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I cant

    nahnah got a good point but don’t she look like Condi Rice

  • Eye

    If you guys don’t see that Obama is a genuine leader then please put your glasses on and stop smoking blunts! Yes he has flaws, however, who do you want to see in the White house, Billary (again) or Obama and Michelle as leaders of the free world. Wake up! POTUS is only a figure head as far as the US goes but he rules as far as foreign affairs are concerned. People in the middle east sympathize with Black americans and if you want the country to come together and find its respect then you should consider making history with Obama

    change the game

    Obama 08

  • 99 problems but a ……

    So why has Ralph Nader decided now is the time to throw his hat in the ring?

    where the hell did that come from?

  • nahnah

    Eye:

    Actually, I think you need to take your blinders off. Like the majority of his supporters, you’re blinded by empty rhetorics.

    Hillary and Obama = 90% voting records overall.

    Hillary and Obama = 98% Iraq/Afghanistan voting record.

    So, if Hillary is so bad, what does that say for Obama?

  • nahnah

    hate to ask

    Are you cross eyed?

    ______________________

    No, I’m not cross eyed, but thanks for asking. :-D

    Like the typical blind Obama supporters – can’t debate facts – resort to personal attacks. ;-)

  • I cant

    u do look like condoleeza though nah nah

  • 99 problems but a ……

    STOP!! that girl does not look like Condi!!-thats insulting

  • nahnah

    I cant

    u do look like condoleeza though nah nah

    ___________________________________

    Well, thanks. I don’t agree with her politics, and I hate her guts, but she’s a black woman – I’m a black woman – so I guess we can find some common ground. Nevertheless, I appreciate your observation…:-D

  • Encyclopedia Brown

    I support Barack Obama 100%

  • and another one….

    Obama making it rain on that hoe…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • optimus

    Obama is a great canbdidate, he is a great politicians and will be able to change politics, but he will not win this race, the clinton mobb/mafia is too powerfull in this country.

    As to Clinton, i am not sure that she will do well against McCain and even if i am a dem, i guess breaking the clinton-bush cycle in this country could do us some good… This is the U.S of A. after all it’s not pakistan or india where it’s all about dinasties between husbands and wives or fathers and sons…

    I really hope McCain will win over clinton

  • optimus

    By the way Obama is so bad as a candidate he just received the endorsement of the most powerfull Environement Activist Organisation

  • optimus

    “STOP!! that girl does not look like Condi!!-thats insulting”

    ===========

    Insulting for whom condi or that obama hater girl?

  • Nita

    @Dr. Strangelove wrote, “How many negro’s you know speak Mandarin Chinese?”

    More should. China is where it’s gonna be at, if it ain’t already. The little illegal kids are being taught chinese as well as english out in california, when they can find a magnet program….. what are little black kids gonna do? The illegals shouldn’t be here, but they’re taking advantage of all the opportunities they’re stealing from everybody else. Native black folks……….. I don’t know what to say.

  • Nita

    @ 99 problems, Nader did what now?? are you serious? The Green Party’s already got candidates — they’ve got like, seven, I’m reading at Google. Cynthia McKinney is one of them. Oh yeah, and apparently Nader had endorsed John Edwards, but John Edwards quit (I had hoped he would stay through for another debate — I enjoyed him and Obama playing tennis together). Nader needs to quit. I felt he was right, with the wrong results, in 2000. I felt he was an asshole traitor in 2004, because of the money he took from Republicans to act as spoiler again. Nader needs to step off the ego-tripping, and get back to what’s good for the nation.

    @ Optimus, I don’t trust McCain. He’s got that Dick Cheney smirk working in overdrive. Plus he’s too war-happy. We don’t need more war, we need to fix what we’ve already gotten started. It’s a sad day when I’d vote for the Mormon… but I would, over McCain. I need to shower, now.

    @ anonymous, you wrote, “Obama was the only one not to support the war,from the get go. just because he didn’t support the war doesn’t mean he shouldn’t support the troops. what was obama supposed to do? not vote to send more weapons and supplies after his cohorts stupidly voted for the war? Not vote to increase funding to supply better armor? he was supporting the troops. period. but he never supporteed the war. period.”

    thank you, thank you, thank you. preach on.

    @Natalia Smith, what does Obama need to lay off of?

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Nita

    Nader is egotistical?

  • Neekah

    OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!

  • Axelary

    obama always has that ‘look’ like negro please .. i know he can scrap too – with his black azz lips – keep smoking pres, if that’s gonna make you relaxed and help you do your job! OBAMA/EDWARDS 2008!

  • ChinaBowls

    So many misinformed crabs. This is why “black people” will never advance as a race. Only as individuals. No support. People think so highly of themselves that they want to prove they are different from the rest, and they are only uncovering their ignorance. The man is black AND qualified. What else does he need to do to get your vote? You can depend on caucasians when they support… That’s why they buy cds of artists they like. They will support people. Black folks are too misinformed, oblivious, and insecure. Why are you so adamantly stating that you won’t support someone just b/c they are black. That doesn’t make you look enlightened. Just divisive.

  • nahnah

    The argument that Obama had no way out of approving hundreds of billions of dollars ‘for the troops’ is a cop-out. Per the constitution, congress has the authority to provide conditional funding – to make sure the troops have everything they need to survive until they exit out of Iraq and Afghanistan. The billions of dollars, however, were approved to continue the war – not solely for the troops.

    Bill Clinton, although I can’t stand him, was correct when he called Mr. Obama’s “oppositition” to the war a “fairy tale”.

    Anon & Nita:

    What explanation do you have for him voting against bringing the troops home, WITHIN A YEARS TIME, twice

    Patriot act?

    Real Id Act?

    These are all neocon policies, that the fake ass progressive was eager to support.

  • Oh No Not Again

    NAHNAH YOU ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WILLIE LYNCH.

    SENATOR OBAMA INITALLY DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SEEK BLACK VOTERS FOR THIS ELECTION, BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT WOULD TRY TO PLACE HIM IN A BOX. I DID NOT START OUT BEING A SENATOR OBAMA FAN, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE BRAINWASHING BEING DONE, SOME NEW MEDIA FOR HIM, SOME AGAINST HIM BUT ALL BEING OWNED BY 6 COMPANIES TOTAL. I HAD TO DO MY RESEARCH. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHAT DO YOU THINK DR MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR WOULD WANT YOU TO DO. REMEMBER HIM, HE DID NOT LOSE HIS LIFE FOR US TO NOT COME TOGETHER AND SPEAK IN ONE VOICE FOR ONCE IN OUR LIVES. ALL THE RACE BAITING, AND CODE WORDS ARE MOVING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO VOTE BASED ON RACE. WHEN WILL BLACK PEOPLE WTF UP? THIS MAN REPRESENTS ALL OF US, GOOD OR BAD.

    I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT HE WANTS BUT AT LEAST HE WANTS TO BRING THIS COUNTRY TOGETHER. WE REALLY HAVE TO WORK WITH HIM ON THIS ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION THING BUT OVERALL HE WILL WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL AMERICANS, THINKING ABOUT BLACKS IN THE EQUATION. WHEN HAS THAT EVER BEEN DONE?

    WAKE UP BLACK AMERICAN….WE HAVE BEEN HERE ALMOST 300 YEARS. LET GO OF THE WILLIE LYNCH SYNDROME.

  • Melmarie

    I am so proud of Obama! We need Change and obama is the right man for the job. If the clintons cared so much about health care and all the other issues that she claims to support then why wasn’t this taken care of when her husband was in office for 8 years?! Would these Demorcrats be voting for her if she wasn’t the former first lady? Obama isn’t riding on anyone’s coat tail and he is doing great in the polls …That should tell you that America wants change.

  • Kompton’sKutie

    In the pic he looks like he wants to slap her.

    OBAMA 08

  • Melmarie

    Obama ’08

  • tj

    How many times do I have to tell people to ignore Nahnah

  • ChinaBowls

    No Alan Keyes is not qualified. My pet peeve is when other African-Americans say so much to tear Obama down, and he has not given any reason to do so.

    People who refuse to support him always respond, “Just because he is black does not mean I’m going to vote for him.” This is the first thing they say. That’s not a good argument for why you will not support him.

    However, people has this loyalty for the Clintons, b/c they have always “done so much for the black community.” I am still wondering what they have done that deserves acknowledgement. If that is the reason for voting another Clinton in office, what did you have against John Edwards? He is one of the realest white guys out there, and has true compassion for oppressed people (black, white, red, and yellow).

    Nahnah inherently hates herself. She reminds me of blacks who denounce HBCUs and point out their flaws, and praise PWIs while ignoring theirs. They say HBCUs are less qualified, but pay no mind to the positive efforts and message. You don’t have to go to one, but why denounce them?? You don’t have to vote for Obama, but why denounce him?

    Yes, I have a couple issues with Obama’s campaign… but you will never catch me dogging him out. I initially planned to vote for a republican this time around, b/c I share similar beliefs with their candidates. But this race is historical, and you will never catch me doubting or criticizing Obama. Half the people on here making negative statements ar regurgitating info they have seen elsewhere, and only weak-minded individuals are swayed by media headlines.

    The facts are there… The Clinton’s are shady and we have all been there to witness their irreprehensible acts firsthand. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice….. Hell no! But some would rather support them than a black man who is a viable option with a clean record. Wooooooow

    If Hillary gets the nomination. She isn’t going to win– trust. Especially if McCain is her competition. Don’t know if you watched the debate last night, but he is not afraid to revert to one’s past(and she has a nasty one). O yea Most Americans, including myself, would trust him w/ the war over her any day.

  • serene

    call da clintons whatever ya want, but u know what…..things ain’t been da same since ole bill left office.

  • ChinaBowls

    Since I have not followed your several posts on here, I apologize, but I am not familiar with your apathetic views.

    Like I said, I don’t think anyone is trying to convert you to the Obama team.

    You are going to stress yourself out thinking you can change the way our crooked government operates. Unless you intend on dedicating your life to taking Washington by storm and protesting, just fall in place sistagirl… you will be a lot less angry!

    Venting on message boards is wasting your time. Go out and enlighten others. Get a rally going. Be careful tho b/c I heard the cia doesn’t play.

    O yea, you might want to try a different country. In this day and age, it isn’t difficult to pack up and leave… but you might have a hard time getting back in.lol

  • nahnah

    Several years ago, Colin Powell, a black man, stood in front of the world and LIED about Iraq and WMD’s, which caused the death of how many of our “black brothers and sisters”…?

    Condoleeza Rice, a black woman, continues to LIE, which resulted in the death of how many of our “black brothers and sisters”, and more to come…

    Additionally, the ruling elite in African and Caribbean countries continue to side with the western elite to inflict pain and misery to their people.

    So, history and the present prove that class has more to do with it than race does. Afterall, racism is a byproduct of classism.

    So, the “support Obama because he’s black, and forget about his policies” train is one I’m willing to miss.

  • nahnah

    Although I don’t go around breaking stuff, and screaming and hollering, I am ok with you labeling me as “angry”, because Americans have the right to be angry for what’s going on in this country today.

    Lies.

    Wars.

    Unemployment.

    A different scandal every week.

    High gas price.

    High food.

    High everything…

    I can’t walk the streets of Manhattan without accidently stepping on a homeless person…

    I can’t walk to the subway without somebody asking me money to buy food…

    High rate of foreclosures…

    High rate of credit card deliquencies…

    No, not enough to be angry?

    BTW: I am at work, therefore I can’t be out “protesting”…

    And although I was involved in several antiwar/peace organizations, those folks are as phony as ever. Many of them pretend to be antiwar just because it’s the hip thing to do, but the majority of the are supporting Clinton simply because she’s a woman. They forgot their pledge to stand for peace…

  • Dr. Strangelove

    “Nahnah inherently hates herself. She reminds me of blacks who denounce HBCUs and point out their flaws, and praise PWIs while ignoring theirs. They say HBCUs are less qualified, but pay no mind to the positive efforts and message. You don’t have to go to one, but why denounce them?? You don’t have to vote for Obama, but why denounce him?”

    ————————————————

    I totally disagree with “ChinaBowl” on this one. As a very proud and active alumnus of an HBC, I recognize and appreciate the value of the education I received. It was at my alma mater that I learned the importance of questioning one’s motives and seeing both sides of the story. The reason I question Obama’s campaign tactics (and every other candidate) are because of my institution. BTW, I have a masters from a PWI. The differences between each type of institution are quite clear to me.

    I wonder if you hate yourself, “Chinabowl.” It seems you are willing to belittle black women.

    That is all.

  • ari

    ok for one stangelove…obama voted to fund the war because they were already at war and he thought it would be best to not hurt the troops by being against funding..

    its one thing if he voted for the war and for funding…but he voted against the war…and because of ppl like hilary, they ended up GOING to war

    what is he supposed to do then?

    its similar to not wanting someone to go to college, they go any…and you pay there tuition…

    why hurt them if they’re already there?

  • ari

    anyway*

  • ChinaBowls

    I belittle black women? But I am a black woman…….. righhht

    And that had nothing to do with the excerpt you quoted. Nah nah I guess you are too real for everyone! I think if you were truly dedicated to the cause you would quit your job and serve your purpose.

    The issues we face here are menial. People are eating dirt for breakfast, lunch, dinner in Haiti. In China, more than 100,000 people are executed annually for minor infractions. Ethnic cleansing is taking place in Kenya.

    I will pay $3.00/gal to put gas in my car (a luxury most in this world aren’t fortunate to have).

    The mortgage crisis is occuring b/c people wanted homes they couldn’t afford. They signed up for adjustable interest rate loans because they wanted bigger cribs they couldn’t afford… while folks can barely keep their mudhuts in tact in other countries.

    People are running credit card bills up, and then want sympathy when they can’t pay the money back. You signed the contract for a 29% APR. The rest of America didn’t force you too.

    Our whining is laughable and idiotic to others.

  • nahnah

    ari:

    Obama not only continued to fund the war, but he voted against bringing the troops home within a year’s time.

    In addition, congress has the constitutional authority to provide conditional funding – where they can fund the troops; provide them with everything they need for survival, without funding the actual war. But, since the Democrats, including Obama, are as pro-war as the Republicans, they won’t do it.

    Instead, they will pretend to be helpless, as a way of fooling the American people – even after they were elected in 2006 on the platform that they’d bring the troops home.

  • John

    NahNah is just a house negro pet masquerading as a “concerned citizen”.

  • nahnah

    Haitians eating mud pies have nothing to do with their “condition”. And not all Haitians eat mud pies, I know…

    And your first sentence is a sign of incurable ‘unintelligence’, but keep ‘em coming. A cop-out for those who can’t debate, and therefore attempt to survive by finding a way out…

  • ChinaBowls

    Shoulda listened to tj. You are a psychopath! Waste of conversation. At least rotate your pic or something…

  • Nita

    @ ChinaBowls,

    I like your posts, but I gotta say something about the mortgage and credit card situation.

    People were lied to about the terms of their mortgages. There’s a big difference between going into something with eyes wide open, and going into something and having the folks who should be helping you outright deceiving you.

    Also, I remember when I was a student receiving those card offers. They didn’t disclose all the terms and fees of the card within the inserts. They promise people that you can receive some amount of credit…. but no one EVER receives it. Most people get the minimum and then can’t even use that because the fees eat up everything except for a small chunk of change.

    Banks have gotten in trouble for mailing out their billing notices in such a way that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for someone to send in a check even that very day and have it reach the company on time. Try to pay by phone? you’re stuck with fees of up to $15 dollars to pay your own bill by phone. Why? GE got in trouble for issuing cards where people’s payments were being electronically held until the day after the billing cycle date.

    There’s a lot more going down with the credit card situation than folks being irresponsible. If you’re being responsible, but you’re credit card company is sabotaging your efforts, where can you go?

    These cards don’t help people get out of bad credit, they worsen people’s credit situation, and that’s why they must be stopped.

    Also, with the way banks are buying out one another, it’s possible for a person to have their card change hands several times and for their rates to change accordingly. I own a card which has gone through 3 separate banks. My credit has improved. This card has worsened. As soon as it’s paid off, I’m canceling it.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Nita

    Thank you for the informed reply. I agree with you. I have found his motives so self serving as well. Of course he would jump in the race now.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Anonymous

    Very well put. If not Obama, then McCain. I will never vote for Billary, never.

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  • http://www.yuchun.org liyuchun

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