Thursday, January 31st, 2008

The Saggy Pants Debaters

Posted by Bossip Staff

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There is debate on Dr. Phil on whether or not baggy or saggin pants are appropriate. Here are some views from the Ying Yang Twins’ D-Roc and Kaine:

D-Roc’s opinion: “I really do dislike people who have their drawers all showing,” D-Roc says. “I wear too-big pants, but having it off my behind? No. My mama raised me right. I wear my pants above my waist. If I see someone wearing their pants like that, me personally, I’m like ‘Get away from him. He’s probably got a pistol or something on him. If you can’t give me one good reason why you’re saggin’ your pants, you need to pull your pants up!

Somebody who intentionally has their boxing drawers showing, and you don’t know how long they been wearing their boxing drawers — they look kind of dingy — that ain’t cool. I have kids myself, and this is really wrong. If I’m out with my little girl, and here he comes, showing his boxing drawers, I’m like ‘Oh, Baby, that’s not the right way to dress. That’s not how real men dress.’”

Kaine’s opinion:“I wear the baggy pants,” Kaine says. “If I choose to show my boxers a little bit, so what? I’m grown. You can wear your clothes like you want to wear them. People shouldn’t be so judgmental about what they see. A lot of people don’t know these people. They’re just looking at them and jumping the gun.”

Interesting, which one is D-Roc again?

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Comments(99) on “The Saggy Pants Debaters”


  1. hmmmmmmm…….


  2. i just don’t like seeing the boxers w/holes in them. Yes, I’ve seen people, in Atlanta, with the pants hanging down and then you look at the boxers and oopps! there’s a hole!

    If you gonna show the boxers, make sure it’s a BRAND NEW pair and they look cute.

  3. V

    This entire subject & commentary from the latter is a waste of time. Waste.


  4. That saggin pants have a affiliated with the prison life, that suggest that a man was game to get is booty to the fruity when he was horny lol!

  5. Billie

    It’s not a good look. Kinda makes you look like you wish you were a little boy, too little for your clothes. Kinda leads into how you might be presenting as just another poor black men, missin they daddy…

    NOT manly.

    On the other hand, the young ladies showing their thongs are… kinda ho-ey.

    NOT a good look. That’s why they call it UNDERwear.

  6. Momo

    Hopefully anyone walking around with their boxers showing is under the age of 19 and hopefully they will snap out of that ridiculousness as they get older.

  7. elle

    I don’t like the style at all.

    You don’t walk correctly, you don’t stand correctly.

    It looks sloppy and there is something about seeing a young man’s/ older man’s brief/boxers/***** form that is just not appealing.

    You look like midgets from the back, pockets down near your knees.

    Just not an overall good look.

    I love fashion but this trend, I can’t wait for it to p*****.

    I like seeing men/young men stand with proud stature.

    Representing themselves with posture and a good amount of self respect.


  8. okay, D-Roc seems to have a little since. however, kaine needs to sit down somewhere. this has nothing to do with being judgemental. wearing your pants so low that you can see one’s underwear is just stupid and uncessary, point blank. if you don’t have a good reason (because there isn’t one) to do this, then why do it? and with that being said, all of you guys walking around doing that look retarded and we can say whatever we want about you because you left that door open.

  9. bree

    BOXING DRAWERS? is that a southern term?..social commentart from the ying yang twins? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


  10. oh, i meant to say sense and not since….

  11. bree

    commentary**


  12. oh and i meant unnecessary. dayum i can’t spell this morning.


  13. guess who’s bizackkkk

  14. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    This is one fad that just won’t die…I mean, I’m 27 and cats been saggin’ for like 15 years that I can remember!! I just don’t get it…especially when you’re sagging to the point that you gotta walk “bowlegged” to keep your pants from falling off…I would say something about “our people,” but the white kids are doing it too…smh

  15. Dawn

    I agree with southern Bellem there is not reason for any male your or old to dress like that, it does make you look sloppy and crazy because you have to keep puling them up everytime you walk or run. I’m from ATL and I see it all the time. I also have a son and I stay on him about that all the time.

  16. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @Bree

    Yeah, “boxer draws” (as it’s said here in the south) is indeed a southern term…


  17. lol the problem is too many kids see these celebrities saggin and they don’t know they accompany that sag with a ferrari…in the real world pull up your pants or buy bigger ones and let them be, but don’t sag

  18. bree

    @ mr. look good..i was asking if BOXING drawers were the southern term..boxer drawers are the COMMON term


  19. lol you know them cats who still rock shell-toes or dunks to the office, cause they spent all their money on street clothes and just *****imilating into the corporate world…


  20. that would be me….


  21. @SBM…exactly, my friend was going on 30 and sagging so low that he had to walk with his legs extremly far apart so his pants wouldn’t fall. that made no sense to me. and no, he did not have a ferrari or anyother “showpiece” vehicle to accompany his sag.


  22. @SBM..don’t talk about the shell toes dawg! my brother has like 10 pair right now. and yes, he did spend all his hustle money on street clothes!! He is ghetto but I gotta love him…LOL

  23. V

    I’m just touchy that along the bottom of my screen says:

    Sagging Floors Sagging Eyelids Sagging Skin Sagging..

    I’m glad it stopped right there, lol. If my screen was any wider I think it would have gotten more graphic, ridiculous & plain foolish.

    I mean come on Google…

  24. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @Bree

    Ah, my bad! Never heard of “boxing” drawers…I just call ‘em boxers. The word drawers seems like it should only be said be people over 60…

    What up, SBM? Sorry the whole proposal thing didn’t work out for ya…lol.

  25. V

    What really grinds my gears is when somebody is sagging & they have on more than one pair of undergarments. I mean some of these guys have on:

    1. Basketball shorts

    2. Boxers

    3. Under Armor tights

    4. Regular tights

    I know that have to be bat bony to pull that off & I know they prunes be hot in all that packaging. My friend and I were cracking up at this dude, he had on 2, maybe 3 pair of undergarments not including his jeans.

  26. Momo

    Grown folks who sag…..where do they work?


  27. lol@southerbelle…I don’t blame him, I miss those days, before I got in high school i had an afro…some days un-kept, had the dutch tucked in the left ear, pants saggin to the floor and a cherry lolly-pop in my mouth…I was “dat *****”….

    @Mr. Good Look..hey Adeana is fine..I like that “secretary look”…thats where you just lift up the skirt, pull the thong over and well, you know..

  28. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @SBM

    “YAA DIIIGGG” Lmao…I feel ya, bruh. Yeah, she is. That lives***** site is some bull*****, though…not too much poppin. I’m on there, but it’s another my*****e.

  29. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @V

    Lol at you saying “prunes…”

  30. PrettyMissSunshine

    I think sagging pants, are for immature boys who don’t want to grow up. Those two boys on my gravee, my nepwhes, I wish I would ever see one of them with thier pants sagging, it would be a problem. Men, excuse me, when I see BOYS with there pants sagging, it makes me think that they are trying too hard to be something that they’re not, a gangsta. Pull ya pants up and stand up and be the proud men that your mothers taught you to be!!

    *getting off soap box* lol

  31. V

    Mr. Look…

    Lol, I know right. Not trying to bring the bat & ***** in the conversation, but we all know they look like a lot of things.

    Those bad boys need to breathe & hang right. These fools walking around with tightsm b-ball shorts & boxers on.

    S*****ers all in captivity n stuff, lol.

  32. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ SBM

    HOLD UP!! I cosign with Southern Belle, we rock shell toes here in Philly!!! :-)

  33. V

    Ummm…does anybody ever have typos that aren’t in the comment box, but after you hard post it’s there? I mean come on, my hand was nowhere by that m. I was all at the top of the keyboard & holding shift.

    That’s some bee ess.


  34. lol @V…lol 3 reasons why we wear “layered clothing”

    1.You never know when your appearance needs to change quick..lol i.e. runnin from the cops

    2.a pick-up game of basketball could occur at any moment, at any time of the day

    3.a jump-off could call at any time, after sex you don’t want to lay-up with heavy pants on, so you switch to the basketball shorts

  35. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @ V

    Lmao…you’re telling the truth, though!

    @ PrettyMiss

    You trying to run from me? Lol…I responded to your comment on the Janet page…

  36. …YenoH.NoreMac…

    WOT IN D WORRRRRLLLD!!

    lol, y everybody tryna b “superman” 4?

    we got whoo-kid tattotin his azz and dis brother got d same ish on his hand..!! y’d think dey all got marked from “sUpEr” cattle farm or summit!!

    —>

    CHILL-LAX


  37. @SBM..you are so silly!

    @pretty miss..okay girl! I have to admit I have a chocolate pair that I love. I like to dress up and be girl most of the times, but those shelltoes just speak to me!

  38. that-dude

    Interestingly enough, the Ying Yang twins really did present opposite sides of the argument, i.e., conforming to the standards of society and expressing one’s individualism free from scrutiny. Bravo fellas, bravo.

    I personally were my pants above my hips, but clothes are a simple fix and much better than piercings or tatoos — (more) permanent expressions.

  39. V

    SMB …lol. Sometimes the points in your off-color opinion scares me. Stop, lol.

    & Mr. Look, if its one thing I know its….

  40. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. look

    im tryn respond they not letting me say what i wanna say:-(

  41. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. look

    those are my nephews, but thanks. no kids yet.


  42. @V…lol i’ve been subject to all 3…i actually gotta basketball in my trunk, so anytime i feel like playin, i can and will..appointments canceled..

  43. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ MR. LOOK

    am i running from u ? Cute :-) Don’t write a check ya ***** can’t cash now!!! lol

  44. V

    SBM…ya’ll kill me with that ball in the trunk or rolling around the back seat, lol.

    I hope you don’t have any stiff towels and old Powerade bottles in there too.

  45. BLUNTBLAZER

    SAGGIN IS A ART IS YOU DO IT PERFECTLY U DONT SEE THA BOXERS DAS WHY U HAVA LONG SHIRT

    http://WWW.MY*****E.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC

    “GRIND OR DIE”


  46. lol just cleaned it out…g/f made me…And i can’t drink powerade due to my sensitive teeth, lol..i worked hard for these dental benefits, just got the grill fixed…Want to keep them in tact lol

  47. Dumb*****es

    I just don’t find it attrative or grown and sexy

    When I see a man with his pants saggin, I’m thinkin that person is just a dirty ***** hood ***** that is too immature or too stupid to realize how dumbe he looks.

    The ***** just ain’t cute and it’s time to grow up. It ain’t even fashion

  48. Sickofit

    It seems the saggin has gotten out of control. Now I see guys with their whole butts hanging out. Why even wear pants if your entire ***** is showing?

    Saggin spelled backwards = *****s……..go figure!!

  49. PrettyMissSunshine

    :-)

  50. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. look

    p.s. I have a tight lil body. wink wink. lol


  51. @sickofit….lol that really is crazy…what a coincidence

  52. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @PrettyMiss

    Suuuure you do ;-) And I read what you said about them being your nephews after the fact. I was told that I am not to be sharing pictures of my body, so it’s gone…

  53. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. Look

    You better do what your told boy!!!! LOL

  54. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Mr. LOOK

    If, dare I say if, you are doubting me, I shall put a pic up of myself, then its back to my baby boys!!! :-) I have nothing to lie about.

    @ Southern Belle

    Please let mr. LOOK know its not a ganme over here!! lol

  55. binary star

    Somebody needs to lynch the Ying Yang Twins. Yeah I said it!

    And of course they would get booked to represent hip-hop culture. I suppose cam’ron was still in hiding so he graciously declined.

    Also – are we still talking about sagging pants in 2008? Really? I guess it’s about time someone tackled this 20 year old issue.

    I really hope to see this important topic get some shine during the next presidential debate.

  56. ONE BETTER

    Mr Look Good

    So sad for the rest of us…

  57. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @PrettyMiss

    Lol @ “do what you’re told…” And I AM doubting you! ;-) Are you gonna continue to hide behind the cute kids?? Lol…

  58. cns

    I think that the person has not bathed and is looking for a reason to offend.

  59. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mR. lOOK

    You want it? You got it!!

  60. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Mr. LOOK

    What is the web address fro the gravtar link again?

  61. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    I’m waiting…

  62. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    Uuummm…www.gravatar.com

  63. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mR. look

    Its worth it!!! I think!!! lol :-)

  64. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. look

    and don’t get smart!!! lol

  65. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Mr.Look good

    It won’t let me download it to my gravee however, here is my email address send a message to it and I’ll email you back a pic. Unless, you gonna get in trouble!!! lol :-)

  66. PrettyMissSunshine
  67. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Mr. LOOK

    SHOOK?!?! ;-)

  68. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Mr. Look,

    I tried, its on my desk top as a word doc and not a jpg. file. I tried to change it to that and I can’t. But I told you what to do. :-) Sorry!!!

  69. Mr. Look Good In Anything

    @PrettyMiss

    Lmao! Somebody been talkin’ ish while I was trying to make some money! I got you…

  70. Harlem Chic

    That’s very interesting that saggin=*****s backwards….Kinda deep…

    And I agree with “Dumb Biitches”

    When I see men with their pants below their ***** crack I see a person with low self-esteem. A strong, proud black man simply doesn’t carry himself like that. And these rappers out here that dress that way is hustling to make a dime of brother’s ignorance. Cause ignorance is bliss especially if you can make a dollar off of it. I bet you they don’t wear that ***** to the boardroom when they are with their attorneys and it’s that time to negotiate dem contracts!


  71. BUNCH OF BLACK PEOPLE LOOKING JUST LIKE MONKEYS ON THAT PICTURE. AND THOSE BABIES YOU POST (UGLYMISSSUNSHINE) YOU DUMMY! ARE UGLY ***** HELL TOO. YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DUMB PUTTING KIDS PICTURES ON THE INTERNET.. DUMB *****S!

  72. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ mr. look

    the milks gone bad *****es!!! LOL

  73. PrettyMissSunshine

    ,

  74. PrettyMissSunshine

    1

  75. PrettyMissSunshine

    what the hell?

  76. NIKKI

    Why are they at you PrettyMiss?

  77. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ nIKKI

    Hey girl!! What you mean? :-) I am a little slow and didn’t understand the question. lol


  78. @Mr. Look…my girl is very pretty..she is an aspiring actress so you know she got it going on!

  79. NIKKI

    @ Pretty Miss

    Same ole *****ty…@ 2:12pm

  80. PrettyMissSunshine

    .

  81. PrettyMissSunshine

    @ Southern Belle

    I love you girl!!! MN4L!!!!

  82. Blaqk...boycott the Bejing Olympics

    First I want to say that this entire topic is sooooo retarted

    Next, Did anyone see the show O my black people a total embarr*****ment and a few steps back

    These people were yelling at each other, not using proper english, and got the most unattractive members of our society to make a point…Dr. Phil could’ve selected people who spoke better, The Ying Yang Twins WOW…did anybody see it????


  83. @Southern Belle

    Alright…from now on, I’m cosigning and agreeing with everything you tell me, because you speak the truth…

  84. Ghost

    Grown folks who sag…..where do they work?

    —————————————————–

    One of them is named Plies, just look at his cd cover. Another is Omarion.

    What I find so funny about this issue is that these guys will get offended when you ask them to pull their pants. Saying you shouldn’t be looking and you’re gay for looking. Yet if they go into a WHITE neighborhood or community, guess what those pants are up. And if they are so concern about gay men, why have your pants like that in the first place?

    My question is for the parents-why are you letting your child dress like that?

    A parent at my school is now locked up becuase someone at the school told her son to pull his pants up. How low was his pants? Low enough to see every single hole in his UNWASHED boxers.

    You know cities are trying to p***** laws to where fines can be given for it. Those cities are stupid, they know they need money and to get it go after the dumbest folks in the city. Pants sagging negros-400 dollar a ticket adds up in the long run.


  85. wow the ying yang twins giving us advice on parenting … i`d rather listen to that chick who left her 8 kids to get with that Nigerian dude a couple post up.. She`s more credible !!


  86. The ying yang twins giving us advice on parenting … That`s like ” Flava Flav ” giving you advice on how to look like a pretty boy !!


  87. What`s next !!! The Ying Yang twins are going to give us a lecture on speaking clearer ??!! … Hygeine ??!!


  88. What`s next the ying yang twins are going to tell us some corny ish about ” Reading is Fundamental ” When we all know them two niccas aint read a book in 10 years !! And by the way .. Ying Yang twins .. ” Black Tail ” does not count as a book !!!

  89. miss militant

    @same ol *****

    U wet hair smelling like a dog *****

    Take that racist peckerwood ***** to Perez Hilton and get off bossip obviously u wishing u was like a sista like me whos educated and working for a fortune 500 company while u prolly sitting in you trailer weighing like 600 lbs drinking budlight and watching soap operas all day stop watching mtv cuz all black folks aint like that

    no what hoe

  90. coop

    @LaSabre84

    All of that nonsense about sagging pants and prison is bull or better yet urban legend. It’s like when the old people would tell you not to roll your eyes back because if someone hit you on the back you would get stuck.

  91. coop

    @Harlem Chic

    Well I think that people that worry to much about how others dress are insecure.

  92. coop

    @PrettyMissSunshine

    What is happening is that people are getting older and are forgetting that they used to beleive in expressing themselves in how they dress.

  93. coop

    @V

    People have been doing that since sagging came into style about 15-20 years ago. The thing is that people who used to do it have gotten to high and mighty. And have decide to forget what they did do.

  94. FyreStarrter

    @coop dude sagging pants has NOTHING to do with self-expression. & the prison tie in is NOT a myth!!! I know SEVERAL school cats who were in prison in the late 70’s & early 80’s that now are reformed & trying to educate younger cats about how to STAY OUT OF JAIL & they will be the FIRST to tell you that is EXACTLY what sagging your pants in prison MEANT!!! Its not about self-expression its about disrespect for authority & for oneself. I come from a family of strong women & my Great Aunts if they see you out on the street looking like that (FYI they live in Queens in NEW YORK CITY) will PULL YOUR DAYUM pants up!!! Its ignorant, disrespectful, & just downright UGLY & TACKY AS HELL!!! GROW THE F*CK UP!!!

  95. and another one.......

    Saggy Pants or not both Ying Yang are ugly as all hell.

  96. deesac

    first of all I don’t think it dr.phil place about what a person choses to wear,just who do he think he is. I don’t think it right to be bald and leave have your hair on your head. And yes thats a little d and a little p stupid #@$%$#%

  97. Some Black Female

    Saggin hanging pants off your ***** is a style sooo early ninties. Black Men! When will you catch up with the 2000 styles? I saw this man a few days ago at the train station and he reminded me of a skit off of a comedy show. His pants were literally below his knees! Below his knees! I repeat, his pants were sagging below his knees and he had a shirt on yaaaaaay long. WTF?! I laughed as I walked past because I thought about that comedy skit where the black guy was trying to get away from the cop and couldn’t because he was sagging his pants around his ankles.

  98. Some Black Female 2

    However, I don’t think we should be moderated on how we dress by the government, but come on. Get some style besides the early ’90s.


  99. To be honest,D-Roc has the upper hand in opinion.He’s right.NO self-respecting black man would have their pants like that.An old prison thing too.If you were there,and you had your pants like that,you were saying that you “dropped the soap”.And these other fools talk about people being gay.You’re saying the same thing about yourself,nimrods!

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