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Amy’s talented a talent, but Natalie speaks the truth . . .somewhat.

On the other side of the fence, Natalie was not clean when she won best new artist in 1975.

She has spoken openly about her past drug problems.

Thank Got she got help, that is what Amy needs.

So while Amy is not sending the best message image wise, I don’t think that should stop her from being rewarded for her raw talent.

She just needs help before she kills herself.

Sorry for the typo’s LOL – it’s 5:30 am here.

Going back to sleep

Oh yeah . . . FIRST!

Yaaaay!

(my first time doing that

I feel the same way. People always talk about how Jesse Jackson can stay in the mix. Let’s talk about how drug addicts can get rewarded and stay on the news. Wake up people! It’s time to do better.

I think that Natalie is somewhat right? I mean honestly all these people are on drugs. There are politicans on drugs and get to keep their jobs. I mean I don’t we should just target the famous people. Get into the communities and get these drug dealers out! But it seems as that will never happen anyway and sad to say the if the government could tax that ish, it wouldn’t even be illegal.

You also need to go after the real thing that is overly abused in or out of the spot light. ALCOHOL!!! Amy is and extremem case, but you always here of someone drunk driving or drinking until they pass out and a whole bunch of other things.

I am glad Natalie got help and instead of insulting the woman why doesn’t she go out and try to help and encourage her and everyone else to follow her lead. She is speaking on it, so let’s see her be about it.

Natalie Cole was on drugs for MANY MANY MANY years, but that didn’t take away from her God given talent. She was in the same position Amy is in now. I looked at Amy perform and anyone can tell she getting better. And YOU could tell she really was in shock for winning…like SHE finally believes she talented. Natalie Cole can’t judge anyone..that’s GOD’s job! She was awarded for her GOD GIVEN TALENT, SHE WAS AWARDED BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST ALBUMS OF 07!!! She just needs to PRAY for AMY recovery..JUST LIKE SOMEONE PRAYED FOR HER!!!!

At the end of the day…Amy can sing her ass off. She can rip high, w/a crackpipe in her hand – matter of fact in her mouth.

Sad, but true – the chick can sing. I wonder why she’s so touchy about that?

Amy is obviously a crackhead, but if you couldn’t tell she was like half the industry people running around holding it together what would people have to say then?

A good bit of people who have OD’d were addicts functioning better than Amy.

If she was going to talk about one person – she needs to talk about everyone.

*I just know when I retire I’m not going to take my time & go to office parties talkin ish…lol.

Because (@Cher) its a reward for their talent not morals. Most great talents (music and otherwise) have had some problem or another (Miles Davis, Billy Holiday the list goes on.

Wow the pot calling the kettle black,

I was thinking the absolute same thing. People constantly bash artists like Beyonce, Rihanna, Brandy etc and call them bad role models but then the same people are there praising Amy Whinehouse for being a drug addict. Her song Rehab is not sending the best message as well. She is basically saying that it is ok to be hooked on drugs. And also she is on stag performing shouting out to her drug addict husband who is in jail. If that does not scream bad role model then I don’t know what does.

The gammies are basically giving her collateral to continue her drug habit. Also I think she should at least start taking care of herself not only on the inside but also on the outside.

@harlem chick,

rihanna deserved every nomination cause umbrella was a worldwide humongous hit, rihrih was not nominated for vocals, she was nominated for her song in song of the year, record of the year, etc. so i think u need to lay off the haterade and accept the fact that amy winehouse upstaged BEYONCE on so many levels, 1) amy’s performance was the most anticipated for the night, not bey and tina. 2) amy a drug addict defeated beyonce’s biggest hit irreplaceable which has not received any awards except fuh BET award. btw, BEYONCE NEVER ONE A GRAMMY GENERAL FIELD LIKE SONG OF YEAR, RECORD OF YEAR, BEST NEW ARTIST, ALBUM OF YEAR. SO AMY JUST SQUASHED BEYONCE’S 10 YEAR CAREER IN ONE NITE. NOW AINT THAT A SHAME!

wow we’re asking her opinion now??>>

@HARLEM CHICK,

BEYONCE NEVER WON A GENERAL FIELD GRAMMY AWARD BY HERSELF.

dang im getting out of here yall geting to deep for me. i wanted to just roast amy for kicks and laughs. dang i have to go back to work tommorow can we just roast her for a while before the beyonce has no talent debate starts? please

Natalie Cole needs to sit her ass down somewhere.

Yeah Natalie can say s*$t about Amy when she was a drug addict herself. I don’t see why people talking about she is not a good role model so she should not get a grammy. I am pretty sure Amy did not get in the business so she can be a role model but just put out good music as you see from her albums. any way the role modeling should start at home because you cannot depend on a artist to raise your child.

Everyone should just hope she recovers so she can make a banging album in 08″

Good Morning ALL:

Firstly, when I heard about this today on GMA, I was a little shocked the Natalie Cole would say something like this. Yes, Amy Winehouse does need to get help, however her recieveing her Grammy’s and making good music has nothing to do with rewarding her behavior. They were rewarding her for her musically talent and for making one of thee best cd’s made all year. They were rewarding her music and her voice not her addiction, now if she made a whole cd about crack use, then I would have to agree but she made some quality music and thats what was rewarded. Say what you want about Amy, but her cd was crazy and she deserved every Accolade that she recieved that night!!! But I really wish she does get help, for her own sake.

at least Natalie looks good and hasn’t got a meth face!

Like someone said, Pot calling the kettle black…

Amy is a troubled, but very, very talented lady. I really think she was being recognized for that (her talent).

Yes, but natalie didn’t get on stage boast about her habit in a song. All while the establishment saluted her.

Amy doesn’t care who knows, she proud of her habit.

There’s double standards here, every chance there is WHITNEY is ragged on by being a CRACK HEAD, and how bad she looks. Amy looked just as bad, her hair was a mess, speech awful. She looked like a problem.

Damn can we just be glad that somebody that can actually sing won for once?

No glitter…

No lights…

No smoke…(well a little smoke, lol)

No outrageous dancing…

No ass sweating or crotch shots…

No confusing show or sound effects…

I mean this chick just walks up to mic, sings & gets it over with. Then you know she got that magic because she’s not that easy on the eyes & everybody was fixated on her.

Why? Because of her voice, not because of makeup, wardrobe & ish.

Just raw talent & singing. I’m thankful for that and it was refreshing. All this chick needs is a mic. Yes, what she’s doing & the drugs is not a good look – still it looks like she’s getting help.

I agree and disagree with Natalie’s statement. Also, Natalie has sold millions of albums so to say she’s just famous because of her father is crap. Natalie Cole is an international superstar based on her talent as a singer she earned her fame the hardway through hard work. A lot of people compare Natalie to her father but she indeed is a serious talent.

However, I think Natalie could of shown a bit more sympathy because she did have a serious drug problem back in the 1980s. I do see what Natalie is saying though notice the mainstream media aren’t making a big deal about Amy Winehouse’s drug problem because she is white. Sorry, but I do see a total double standard. The mainstream media is all about the classic white female victimhood. Winehouse is young, and white, and the press wants the public to have sympathy for her. I don’t have any sympathy for Amy Winehouse I just wish she would get off the rocks. Amy is talented and she knows it. However, if Amy Winehouse was black she would not be winning the five Grammy Awards. So Natalie’s statement about presenting a negative message to young people is correct. So Amy Winehouse can snort her rocks and win Grammys. I don’t like it that a drug addict is winning Grammys. Some kids are so impressionable these days they may get the wrong message.

@V

Preach!

Another reason Amy Winehouse is popular is because she’s a white girl that can “sing” R&B. White corporate America is all about appropriating African American culture for profit. I wonder though will Alice Smith the young black female folk singer or Rissi Palmer the Country Singer will they win Grammy Awards next year?

If Bee would have won: She didn’t deserve it, B-day wasn’t hot, she’s overrated, she needs a break…

If Rhianna would have won: She can’t sing, she can’t dance, her performances are weak….

Come on…Key Cole & Fantasia be screaming at the top of their lungs and can’t get it done. They have wonderful voices…the package just isn’t 100% yet. Once they realize how not to yell & not scream – they’ll be aiight. Belting out a song doesn’t mean it sounds good. In that department (having a strong, soulful voice & controlling it – Whinehouse got it done and she won.

1) natalie did crack too so if anyone should talk IT SHOULD NOT BE HER

2) the grammy’s award based on talent not fucced up personal life

3) as a christian, i would like to think that god let his happen to her to let her know that her work has been appreciated and to stay on the sober track – we don’t know but amy may have been suicidal and this is god’s wink to her

4) the people spoke and it really doesn’t matter what natalie thinks, now does it

@ Sistah Gal & Prop Joe

I agree…people lay their morality & the lessening of it on too many outside things. People need to take personal responsibility for their ish.

@V – you betta tell it. Natalie need to fall back. Since she been there I think she would have a little more empathy for Amy.

She struggled with her own drug issues so she should be more understanding. Amy didn’t win for her personal issues she won for her talent. Which has been overshadowed by her addiction. I wish her much luck in her recovery and much success in the future….

whatn nat, you mad cause your old washed up Ass wasn’t rewarded, if thats the case the whole music industry should not be rewarded, becasue go through stuff in their lives, what she is doing in her personal life should not affect her professional life

go amy

they try to make go to rehab but i say NO NO

Natalie Cole, Thank you! It’s obvious nobody else had the guts to tell the truth. It is sad that the quality of so called “music” has fallen to the level it has. The number posters who condone this stuff is a sad reflection of how our standards have fallen. “Empathy for Amy?” I’d give her a jail cell , not a boat load of Grammies. Some of you really need to grow up & stop contributing to this garbage”music.”

Nat didn’t say she can’t be in the game. She’s just saying that she should not be getting awards during her very public drug addiction. I tend to agree with that. I remember when Essence or someone honored Whitney during her downward spiral and it was terribly embarrassing and Whit made more of a full of herself while performing that Brit at the VMA’s.

I thought Natalie Cole used powder; not rocks.

Natalie needs to shut up. Why should Amy’s personal problems stop her from being rewarded for the work she’s done? Amy has a great sound and a great album, drugged up or not, and THAT is what the reward is for. Not for her personal life. What a hypocrite.

I mean dayum I thought they were giving awards about talent and music not her life.

Geesh

Natalie made a great point. Hollywierd is always rewarding the disturbed. You look at those that are famous, and you have to ask yourself why? You can’t think of anything they’ve done relevant. You have your Paris’, Kim’s, Nicole Richie…all the reality stars…. they are famous for NOTHING! Even if she was on drugs when she won, that doesn’t mean she can’t speak on it. It gives her more reason to speak on it. So she won a grammy, maybe she looks back and feels she didn’t deserve that accrolades.

@ RIP Prop Joe… I completely agree.

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If musicians were rewarded Grammys based on the quality of their music AND how they lived their personal lives, most musicians (past and present) would not have Grammys at all.

Natalie Cole needs to stop trippin. I remember back in the day when people were calling her “Cocaine Brain”.

Amy Winehouse deserved her grammy’s, “Back to Black” is BRILLIANT!!! BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

I wish her all the best in her recovery, and I look forward to enjoying her music for years to come!

Natalie Cole needs to stop trippin. I remember back in the day when people were calling her “Cocaine Brain”.

Amy Winehouse deserved her grammy’s, “Back to Black” is BRILLIANT!!! BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

I wish her all the best in her recovery, and I look forward to enjoying her music for years to come!

They’re giving her awards for BEIGN TALENTED AND PUTTING OUT GREAT MUSIC, not for “smoking rocks”. Some people are so stupid!

The sad thing is, Amy have more talent than the vast majority of black chicks in the game right now. Shame.

granted, Amy Winehouse, Joss stone and Norah Jones are all very talented young women, let’s not gloss over the fact that had they not been white, with what some term ‘soulfull’ sounds, their fame wouldn’t be this widespread – there are black women certainly more deserving of the notariatey that they have received but at the end of the day, the media [specifically the papparrazi], her defiance to rehab [while the world knew she needed it most] and her overall, I don’t give a flying fig about anything but ‘my blake .. incarcerated’ <- her words not mine that, I believe warmed her to many people and thus all the votes .. i love talent in any shape, color or form, i just wish there was a set, relevant, fair, and not rigged way to award grammy’s

I am sick of black people telling eachother that they shouldnt judge anyone. Sorry people. We are humans not dogs. We judge all the time. If we dont, our lives would be in serious trouble. You judge the people you bring in your life and you have every right. Exercise yor morality. Dont be afraid to stand up for what you think it is right for fear of offending people. You may help them. God is the ultimate judge but in HIS wisdom, he gave us moral guidance to judge between the wrong/right, good/bad. etc.

I just can’t see where amy winehouse is all that talented. I don’t think the quality of her voice and music amount to all the grammy wins. I do believe she is being pushed by her bad behavior to say the least and has managed to make her foolishness work for the simple minded that follow her. She looks bad and makes no sense to me…. Will she please just go to rehab and stay….who needs her and her self destruction…don’t we get enough of the Britney thing in this country?… who needs an imported, no talent, problem child…forget amy…

what’s up with the posts not showing?

screw it..I can’t see my comments!

sorry if it’s showing up for you…I will have posted the same thing 10 times, but I can’t see it… Oh well, I’m too through!

Natalie is right but this is america. America has never cared about morals nor survival of humanity.

The kids use cold meds and glue to get high so we’re not getting the right message anyway.

America is about the rich geting richer no one cares about what happens to the youth b/c the rich have enough money to clean up their kids mess ups.

We have rappers/rock stars who talk about drug use all the time and no one cares.

I don’t think that Amy’s issues with drugs have anything to do with her winning Grammys or being nominated. The Grammys are a recognition of music or work that a person has done. Amy’s drug issue is a down in her life right now, and maybe she will get sober who knows but how does Natilie have the nerve to say that she is being rewarded for bad behavior when she was rewarded for is her quality of music. With Natilie being an ex-user you would think that she would understand and no one thought that she had bad behavior based on her drug abuse so who is she or anyone to judge

Everyone is a hypocrite!!!! Ms. Natalie should sit her old behind down and shut up! Once a drug addict, always a drug addict. I doubt very seriously if there are more than a dozen of people in the entertainment industry who do NOT abuse drugs and alcohol. Envy and jelousy are so unattractive!!!!

All I have to say is SHUT THE F up Natalie. I am sure before Amy became large she was not all strung out. Clearly obvious from the first video. The entertainment industry seems to have a strange way of corrupting artist, WHY? because they have access to whatever they want once they reach celebrity statis. The awards are not personal they are professional.

@ Rip Prop Joe- you always make good points! Anyway, cosign…lol

Damn Ya’ll hard on Natalie! Just because she was once was a drug addict does not mean she could never say anything about it. I agree with her because it does send the wrong message. I think people are having a problem with the messager and will miss the whole Message because of it!! Don’t pat someone on the back who are spiraling out of control because all that tells her is that she can do whatever she wants and still get rewarded for it and it’s sad!! She needs help truly she made a song about NOT got to rehab so it’s not like she don’t know she’s jacked up!! I think “Jesus needs to take the wheel” on this one….;p

Way to go, Natalie, everyone is talking about you now… time to push that new album out!

Ho, sit down!

ALL THIS SYMPATHY GOING AROUND. WHY NOT ANY FOR WHITNEY HOUSTON??????????????

It is amazing how ignorant this site is. Officially removing it from my list.

WASET

wow … ya’ll some sambos … a white, crackhead [literally] with missing teeth that jacked black style music is being supported like this on a “black owned site”? wow .. I’m with Waset, I can’t cosign any of this massa mentality -

If Amy Winehouse, of her own free will, likes to get high then leave her to get high. Same with all crackheads. If dumbass kids star are inspire to get high too then blame the parents.

*stops typing and picks up pipe again*

If Winehouse shouldn’t have won, Natalie shouldn’t have won any grammys either because she was drugged up and living foul when she won her grammys. How is Amy Winehouse winning any different from her winning? Wasn’t she herself rewarded for her reckless behavior when she won her grammys? Get off your high horse Natalie.

This is blatant jealousy. Some would like to convince themselves that Amy’s schtick is somehow a misappropriation of something we’ve been doing forever. But they can’t because it isn’t.

So, it’s ridiculous to think her personal issues should negate her talent. They don’t. And, I’m thinking her loss for album of the year was the organization’s way of punishing her for her bad behavior because I just can’t see her losing…The album is genius and though this word is so easily tossed around, it’s timeless. It is.

I just can’t see her having lost in that category, honestly. And, this whole thing is silly…it’s silly to criticize the Grammys over Amy’s issues, when one of the biggest honors/tributes of the night was to The Beatle and everyone knows they wrote, and almost exclusively, drug odes.

@ Sammy J,

I may not be deep enough to understand this, but what the hell was the first part of that tribute about? I didn’t get it at all. LOL

Also, I’m sure this has been mentioned, but was Amy high during her performance. I mean, I have seen her REALLY out of it during a performance, but she still looked a little crackish during the one on the Grammy’s.

@ Z Phi Til I Die: It sure looked like she was high or at least drunk.

But Natalie Cole has ALOT of nerve. She more than anyone should know it’s much easier SAID than DONE when it comes to walking away from an addiction. Hell, there would be no damn awards shows if these stars were judged on behavior versus talent. I agree that Amy does need to do whatever it takes to clean herself up (and she isn’t the only one), but don’t be so judgemental Ms. Cole. Especially when you can say been there, done that and still have the track marks or whatever to prove it.

*stepping off my soapbox*

Z Phi Til I Die, Cirque Du Soleil has an entire show built around Beatles songs… That was their interpretation of “A Day in the Life”…it’s a Beatles song and all the characters/themes are inspirations from the song…Some were literal interpretations and others depicted The Beatles’ inspirations in writing the song… That’s all…but The Beatles were heavily into LSD, notoriously so

…”Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds” is supposedly about an LSD trip. And, when they say “I’d love to turn you on” in “A Day in the Life” that’s about turning you on to drugs…

Just as Ive always thought: This is a pink (read white) website. Amy crackhouse is nothing more than a mediocre singer that does nothing but copy our sound, yet she pulls, what, 5 grammys? And timberfake wins an american music award for best soul album?!! Kiss my a$$ with that. Thats what Natalie was probably really steamed about. But of course, if she came out and said said what was really on her mind, the pink media would have been all over her. Fuk amy crack and all the toilet tissues masqueraders out her supporting her.

Why should Natalie shut up? She recovered 24 years ago. Some of you weren’t even born.

She’s a woman who knows what it is like to be on drugs and has never said that Amy shouldn’t be performing.

Honestly, Natalie is black (if you didn’t notice). If Natalie Cole was on drugs when she was winning Grammys and it was all on the news, she wouldn’t have received the award. THINK ABOUT IT.

Just because somebody can sing(wine-ho), act(ledger), dance(timberfake), play sports(pick one), or just show up for no reason(paris) does not mean they are role models or good people.

It would be great if we did’nt know any of the nasty biz they do! Then we could just focus on the illusion of entertainment.

Nobody would have $h!t to say about them except they sing, act, dance, play sports, or just show up really, really well!!!

I guess SHE forgot where she came from.

Is Nat mad that she didn’t win anything while she was on rocks???

They gave Amy Winehouse the award for her music not her addiction…duh!

I was so mad when she said that bullcrap!!! GRRRRRR

Everything Natalie said is true and people need to realize it. Anyone that is a true Amy Winehouse fan would want to see her alive and healthy. Natalie is speaking from experience, she is not being critical. Nat was lucky enough to sign over everything she owned to her mother so that she would not lose it all to drugs. She had caring support behind her. When she opened up about her drug problems she admitted growing up next to the celebs and that ALL of their kids did drugs. Every kid she knew. She is ONLY suggesting that Amy get herself together so that she can REALLY enjoy and appreciate the fruits of her labor. The world does not need another Billie Holiday, it never got over the lost of the first one. The truth usually hurts and so does this. I am the ultimate Amy Winehouse fan but I don’t want to see her check out too soon. Don’t shoot the messenger. I will continue to purchase Amy Winehouse music, but we all know what’s going on is foul. Look at old pictures of Amy, it’s painful. Natalie speaks from the experience, depth and pain that only an addict can and I applaud her for being honest enough to say what needs to said, even if it hurt to hear it. If Amy od’s tomorrow, we will not be able to call it an accident because everyone knows the truth. I will keep her in my prayers because right now she needs faith and some honest true friends and FANS. To those who called Natalie an Ass, check yourself as soon as possible, the ass you speak of, may be you.

Nat sit your TIRED ASS DOWN!! You are a former CRACKHEAD so you should sympathize with Amy!! Amy is sooooooooooooo Talented!! You can’t compare her to ANYONE in the game!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rachel I’m feelin you. We all know the Grammy’s award is for talent, but what does talent have to do with watching someone kill themself. No one, not even Natalie Cole is questioning Amy’s talent. It would be ashame for her to end up as part of the Time/Life music series because she cashed out too soon. For the idiot that called Natalie Cole jealous, You Are A Crackhead. Maybe you should read a book to find out about Natalie’s history. She has no reason to be jealous of Amy Winehouse, not even on a bad day. Like I said earlier, the truth hurts. I love Amy’s music but she needs serious help. If her parents and friends are honest enough to admit it, the rest of the world can too.

Natalie made a great point. Hollywierd is always rewarding the disturbed. You look at those that are famous, and you have to ask yourself why? You can’t think of anything they’ve done relevant. You have your Paris’, Kim’s, Nicole Richie…all the reality stars…. they are famous for NOTHING!

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Who made them famous?? Folks RUSHING out and buying anything with their picture on it. IF people stop buying stuff with them in it or on it, maybe it will humble some of these folks. Why do you think Soulja Boy is still around? Why is Bow Wow ALWAYS on BET?

I mean how many times have Lil Wayne been busted for drugs?? Or rappers that keep getting arrested?

You have to realize some of those folks got nominated to get viewers. Take away Amy’s drug trouble and I bet she still would have won. It would have just be WHO IS AMY WINEHOUSE at the Grammys. I never heard of her until her drug troubles.

I just want black folk to start calling out our people since white folks can’t do it without Al or Jesse going after them.

Some people up here are kinda ignorant if you ask me. Amy in my opinion brought back the sounds from the 50s and 60s… Even my grandmother has Back to Black and agrees with me. Yeah there are also talented african american women out there but they all are doing the same over rated thing. Amy was a breath of fresh air. Yeah she has problems dont we all? Everyone goes through experiences and hard times, some fall harder than others but hey thats just the reality of life. Amy wrote damn near her whole album if not the whole thing. her cd was the only 1 I actually purchased in 07′.

I think the message would have been taken more serious if it had come from someone else. I mean she won her first award when she was still high and it’s a problem that she has struggled with for years so I think if any one should understand is her and she needed to leave that alone.

No one in their right mind is happy to see Amy in the mess she is in. The same goes for Whitney, Lauren and co. (you know who you are!). Natalie, you are wrong. Anyone who looks at Amy and Co. as role models needs serious help. Our role models are the people closes to us who go through the same sh@t as us and still keep our hopes up. I have admired many female singers but never in a million years do I want to be them. At best, I empathise with their pain through their songs. The moment we cannot distinguish between fact and fiction, we might as well call the men with the straight jackets to have us committed.

Natalie your comments sound more like bitterness of an wasted opportunity rather observation. The bottom line is this, there are double standards in every industry, the music industry by its nature is more visually high profile so it is more obvious.

As for the Beys & RiRis, I like your tunes and enjoy you videos (most of the time) but let me be perfectly honest, your all so over exposed, it is difficult to develop any deep connection with your music. Stick to 1 album every 2-3 years. Leave your audience wanting more. Chill and experience life so that you have something to write about in your songs.

I like Amy and I hope she gets well. If she was my friend, I would have had her committed a long time ago. Her album is very good. When you listen to it the 3rd time, you truly understand what she is saying, the pain of loving someone, it’s addictive nature. There is somethng that I just can’t put my finger on but I felt it with early Mary J Blige and still feel it with Jill Scott

I found her at one big site, it seems that is wealthyloves.com Sorry. I forget the username.

I will check if this is true. I will tell you the results soon.

I just read Ms.Cole’s book awesome for anyone but since then i have been trying to find the video of her on good morning america can anybody find it post it so i can show my child what a person looks like on drugs when they have no control not to make fun of her but to show how you can end up dealing with and trusting the wrong people

So many of you need education on very deep levels. Natalie CAN speak on it because she has experienced drug addiction, got clean and STAYED clean. The person who stated Natalie is ONLY famous because of her dad is a moron and an idiot! Jerk – there is NOTHING wrong with having a relative in a business and you follow in their footsteps! Natalie Cole was able to stay in the game all these years because she is a REAL singer and very good actress. Haters, haters, haters – probably with no talent at all.