Iranian Woman’s Death Caught on Video: “Neda” Becomes Face of Revolution
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The protests and revolution raging on in Iran has come to a boiling point that will forever cast this horribly tragic situation into the history books. A protester was shot and killed on tape at a peaceful protest over the weekend. Pop the top for more
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6/22/09, 11:41:am
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6/22/09, 11:42:am
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Christmas Jones
6/22/09, 11:52:am
This makes Rihanna and Chris B’s situation look like chilled latte on a hot August afternoon. Not making a joke, this really saddens me…
Women get treated in other countries, especially Muslim countries like soul-less animals. No wonder why the men in Middle East are usually gay. They don’t look twice at women. Hmph.
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Key from the City
6/22/09, 12:12:pm
It’s real in the field.
Can you imagine if the US public protested in the streets like this during the debacle of 2000?
Beast Master
6/22/09, 12:19:pm
When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it–always. – Mahatma Ghandi
Beast Master
6/22/09, 12:19:pm
While we are here living our lives there are people being gunned down while fighting for freedom. I am against war for profit. I am against multiple tours for soliders who are blessed enough to come back home. That being said I can not help but feel that in some way the U.S. needs to help. If we are going to fight for something fight with meaning. If a leader can only lead by m*****acring his/her followers who exatly is he/she leading? It is the will of the people that governs man (leadership).
Okikiamgenoka, Patz Spokoj, Goom-jigim, Shanti
Salaam Alaykum (السلام عليكم), Shalom שָׁלוֹם
Where ever you are in the world today…peace to you
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 12:30:pm
I’m glad Bossip finally decided to post this. There are too many people here who have no idea of what’s going on in the world outside of what’s happening in their little tiny *****e on Earth.
The Iranian Government issued a statement saying on Friday (I believe) that if people were going the protests which are in response to a rigged election, that it would turn violent and that they were “bringing it on themselves.” Mind you, the police and the Iranian Army aren’t getting involved in it, it’s the Basij. It deterred some people but others just became more enraged. People were actually saying their goodbyes to their family and friends the night before the rally. Yesterday, there was footage that some people got together and blew up the Basij’s headquarters in response.
The scary thing is, as corrupt and hard-line as the Iranian government is–they are not even THE most hard line.
As bad as stuff is here, and it’s pretty bad…remember it could always be worse.
tunie
6/22/09, 12:33:pm
The youth of Iran can do this–take back your country. This is how a revolution should be done–by it’s own people. Her death will not be in vain.
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 12:35:pm
@Beast Master
Ideally, it’d be nice to help but unfortunately there is a lot of protocol that must be followed before taking military action against another nation. I know Bush did it, but he was wrong for it which is why that whole thing turned out to be one giant mess.
Usually, internal conflicts are left for countries to work out themselves. As far as this situation goes, though, it’s actually unique in the sense that while countries have their revolutions and the like, it’s never gotten this kind of attention. Now, with basic modern technology so advance, you can shoot video with an average camera phone and post it up on You Tube, like done with the death of this poor lady. That was actually up on the Internet and getting MAJOR views within 5 hours.
DontBeScurred
6/22/09, 12:36:pm
The US doesnt need to help. The US needs to stay out. Where was Iranian outrage about what is happening is Darfur? Why is “Allahu Akbar” usually followed by displays of barbarity? Islam is the religion of pieces.
Tropical English
6/22/09, 12:47:pm
@ me (the original)®
Agreed, and well said.
The United States has had our own Civil Rights movement (still so) and now Iran is having their own. It is not the place of any other nation to intervene at this time, and to put it bluntly, we simply can’t afford it. Neither with troops or money.
The people of this country are doing what’s necessary for change and as gruesome as it is, it is also refreshing to see people willing to sacrifice it all in the name of what’s true and fair.
Tasha31
6/22/09, 12:52:pm
Yes, this horrible to watch. Sandra Rose actually has the actual clip posted on her site. It was very hard to watch.
Soul Ese
6/22/09, 13:09:pm
Same ***** would happen here if those in power felt threatened…Kent State
Bringthanoize
6/22/09, 13:11:pm
What is happening in Iran is being orchestrated by outside forces hoping to destabilize the Iranian society and cause a public upheaval of discourse of a sanctioned Iranian election to be viewed by the World in an effort to show that Iranians want to be liberated like Iraqi’s were by the AmeriKKKan coalition of wanton violence under the guise of US lies.
Too bad AmeriKKKan’s sat back on their collective fat *****es and let Bush steal(as per the GAO)two elections in 2000 & 2004.
@Topical English
Who do you think is inciting the opposition groups in Iran? America agents? It’s not like the CIA hasn’t overthrown an elected Iranian Government before(see Iran 1953). Israeli agents- Mossad?
Btw- domestic instability is a pillar of war, recognize game, before the actual conflict in some pre combat war theaters.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 13:21:pm
I’m sorry but MOST of yall don’t have a clue… being as the leaders of this “revolution” are the same as last time… not to mention the fact that Henry Kissinger is calling for an invasion if the “color revolution” fails… Don’t get me wrong that poor lady getting her wig pushed back is real as anything I’ve seen… but this revolution smells like fish… the American people are *****ing idiots who wouldn’t know the difference between an Arab and a Persian if I spotted them a camel and a magic carpet… like I said… chick got her wig split… thats foul… boo hoo… boo hoo… but this ***** is out and out propaganda… seriously do the math… SAME PEOPLE AS BEFORE + HENRY KISSINGER = CIA ORCHESTRATION
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 13:33:pm
@Bringthanoize
@Topical English
Who do you think is inciting the opposition groups in Iran? America agents? It’s not like the CIA hasn’t overthrown an elected Iranian Government before(see Iran 1953). Israeli agents- Mossad?
Btw- domestic instability is a pillar of war, recognize game, before the actual conflict in some pre combat war theaters.
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So, let me get this straight, are you saying that the US is instrumental in stirring the pot, and the fact that Mir-Hossein Mousavi for a while now had a strong following in Tehran and various other Iranian cities has nothing to do with the fact that current Iranian Leadership has already admitted that in 50 cities there were more votes than actual voters? Or the obviously tampered with poll numbers that were incremented *perfectly* released by the Iranian Government somehow had something to do with the US? If so, please explain how, especially seeing that the Ayatollah and the Religious Leaders (who are the TRUE LEADERS of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any elected “president” is in actuality just a figurehead) are in direct opposition of the United States.
While I am aware of various coups that had US or Western World backing, both public and not so public, it doesn’t exactly seem plausible in this instance, considering that:
A) Ahmadinejad, under the direction of the Ayatollah, has opened talks with Russia. They are in negotiations.
B) Iran borders the Caspian Sea, which is home to natural resources for Russia.
The US does NOT want conflict with Russia at this point and time in any way, shape or form, so it’s highly unlikely you’ll have the US stirring the pot in this particular instance.
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 13:43:pm
@Eddiedollars 215
Oh, without a doubt, the Republicans I believe are *trying* to get on board, but it has yet to happen. I think Obama’s statement regarding the situation (How he’s concerned about a government getting violent with peaceful protestors and that the world is watching, etc) and the Republicans getting on his ***** about it (saying he should be more encouraging to the protesters and essentially, stir the pot) kind of suggest that we’re not involved in this issues as we might have been in issues past.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 14:04:pm
@me… if you truly believe that you’ve obviously never heard of Zbigniew Brzezinski and don’t know that “color revolution” is a CIA term for subversive destabilization… ever heard of the Pink, Rose, Blue, or Orange “Revolutions”… If you really think Obama is anything more than a sock puppet… you’ve never heard of Brzezinski and were probably unaware of the fact that Henry Kissinger was Barack the Sock Puppets First boss… seriously this ***** is WWF… “we” just got rid of Stone Cold George Bush and they replaced him with Barock Says… the problem is I don’t smell what Barock is cooking… I know he’s a puppet so I don’t give a ***** what the ***** reads off of the teleprompter… Brzezinski is the King of I want a war with Russia… you gotta get that republicans… democrats… left… right bull***** out your head… it’s neo-con… neo-lib… and they work together… Bush II and the repubs couldn’t have come in and actually exercise the powers provided under the U. niting and S. trengthening A. merica by P. roviding A. ppropriate T. ools R. equired to I. ntercept and O. bstruct T. errorism Act of 2001 anymore than Billy C. could have p*****ed the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act… or Bush I could have p*****ed welfare reform… but like I said *****s fall for the good cop bad cop routine… EVERY TIME…
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 14:22:pm
@eddiedollars215
We’ll see. I just don’t see anyone in power wanting a war with Russia at this time.
White Devil
6/22/09, 14:26:pm
@ Bringthanoize
So you are saying that Iranian students are stupid. They are supposedly protesting against the government and risking death because the CIA told them to do it. You are insulting Iranians.
Leeha
6/22/09, 14:27:pm
that video is incredibly sad. I cried watching that young lady die. God bless her soul!
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 14:32:pm
@eddiedollars215
Also, who is the US supporting then? Mir-Hossein Mousavi and the uprising? Why then, would the opposition–Iranian’s leadership and the Ayatollah..actually admit to rigging their election?
No doubt, the CIA does have connections within Iran, however they are not smart enough to set something off like this, nor does this situation really help the US given the number of possible outcomes.
Wow
6/22/09, 14:37:pm
eddiedollars and bringthanoize are on their *****…i wish the rest of the herd was on their level
White Devil
6/22/09, 14:49:pm
I am so happy that Obama is our president and not McCain. Given our history of intervention in the Middle East and the fact that we overthrew a democratically elected goverment in Iran in the 50’s, he is not saying anything and he even said that the opposition candidate is just as bad.
He is trying to do everything he can to show that the U.S. is not behind the uprising. Anything we do to support the protestors would be counterproductive. Iranians, justifiably, want us to stay out of it.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 14:53:pm
@me… Of course T.H.E.Y are supporting the “revolution”… what part of Kissinger calls for attack on Iran if “color revolution” fails do you not understand… there is no point in me further wasting my breath (though I will in vien)… you obviously don’t know anything about Iran or the persians and keep mistaking the American people with the Anglo-American Empire… seriously the CURRENT AYATOLLAH Ali Hoseyni Khāmene’i was president 1981-1981… AT THE SAME TIME Mir-Hossein Mousavi Khameneh was Prime Minister… MEANING THEY WERE LEADERS IN THE SAME REVOLUTION… THEY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE… THEY ARE BOTH CIA AGENTS… seriously… I mean they had to bring Ayatollah Khomeini out of exile in France last time… and people can’t see this ***** for what it is…
DDub (keepin' it real since Wesley's mugshot)
6/22/09, 14:55:pm
Whoa. Hold on. The revolution that brought this current power structure in Iran was a result of them ousting the US backed regime back in the 50’s. The people demonstrating this time around are fighting for more civil freedoms and a disdain for what is widely seen as a rigged election. This revolt has very little to do with the US. That’s why Barack has a hands off approach. He doesn’t want to feed into the propaganda.
The current Iran leaders are trying to pin it on us and the Republicans are trying to get us involved. BO ain’t falling for it.
Again. These demonstrations have nothing to do with US. This is purely an Iranian issue–much like our civil rights movement. We don’t benefit from getting in the middle because the leaders of Iran can manipulate what is a very substantial hate among a a big swath of the Iran population which would in turn doom the protesters and their cause.
CNN has got very good coverage and showed the unedited version of the girl dying. Her death will carry more weight with the Iranian people and further the oppositions cause than Obama’s words.
DDub (keepin' it real since Wesley's mugshot)
6/22/09, 14:59:pm
And it’s disgusting to see Republicans use this situation as a political tool to paint the president as soft (Jimmy Carter-like). The opposition has actually ask that he not get involved, because it would be detrimental to their cause.
If anything, you’d think people would be more concerned with N Korea prepping to launch a friggin’ missile at Hawaii. That could easily spell a 3rd war.
CERO
6/22/09, 15:01:pm
I think it’s a damn shame that real world events get so liitle attention and comment on Bossip. Had this been about lil wayne getting shot, there would be thousands of comments. Guess some people will just continue to live in their small world, only looking up with something directly affects them.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 15:09:pm
@DDub… yeah… you haven’t got a clue… T.H.E.Y. (the US) sold N. Korea (via Pakistan) some low level bull***** that can’t even hit Hawaii… so that the US can sell Japan and everybody else bull***** missile defense systems… get off that left-right… good cop bad cop… mickey mouse view of world events…
White Devil
6/22/09, 15:14:pm
@ eddiedollars215
You are the one that has the simplistic view of events. To you, it seems, everything is done by the U.S. There is no event that happens in the world that does not go exactly to the plan of the U.S. government. You must not have had much interaction with the government. T.H.E.Y. cannot handle a simple transaction without f*cking it up. There is no way T.H.E.Y. could manage things in the way you describe.
DR.FUNK
6/22/09, 15:14:pm
My sympathy & support to the Iranians risking their lives to change their country.That being said-Neda & the other protesters may end up dying in vain.At it’s core this uprising is about one set of *****-backward Muslim religious leaders battling for control against another set of *****-backward Muslim religious leaders.Many people protesting in the street are in fact looking to fundamentally change the way the country is run.One can only hope that Iran becomes a nation
where Islam takes a backseat to TRUTH…DEMOCRACY…& FREE ENTERPRISE FOR ALL.
DR.FUNK
6/22/09, 15:23:pm
@DDub (keepin’ it real since Wesley’s mugshot)
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You are spot on my friend.The Republicans look PATHETIC trying to make political hay on this issue.
I have yet to hear from any of their mouthpieces how they would “handle” this.It’s not our fight.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 15:26:pm
@white devil… yeah yeah yeah… this coming from the guy who’s glad Obama is President instead of McSame as if they were the only two options… you live in a left-right… 1-2 mickey mouse cookie cutter world… you sound like some compartmentalized procurement *****yst who doesn’t understand the concept of planned obsolescence or problem… solution… reaction… don’t try and interpret my view of the world when your blinders won’t let you see past left-right…
DDub (keepin' it real since Wesley's mugshot)
6/22/09, 15:27:pm
@ eddiedollars215
N. Korea gets most of its aid from China (Russia, to a much lesser extent). It makes money off of arms sales and money laundering. They want to be a nuclear power so that they can use that status symbol as a way to leverage more aid from the world community. The missiles may be shoddy and probably wouldn’t make it but it’s a provocation. Their trying to bully the world to ease sanctions. Japan nor SK wouldn’t benefit from an irate NK (especially if they can get a fully functional nuke). They would weaponize and that would make China nervous.
At some point China have to intervene more than they are because they see themselves as the next superpower and they don’t want that region to descend into war.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 15:36:pm
@Ddub… what dose any of what you just said have to do with us selling them (via) Pakistan the gps systems they use in their 1970’s grade missiles or Bill Clinton financing their nuclear weapons program to the tune of Billions of US tax dollars and Hundreds of THOUSANDS of Gallons of fuel… like I said you don’t have a realistic view of how the military industrial complex… let alone the rest of the world actually works… stop drinking that left-right… country vs. country kool-aid… and start lokking at international bankers… money makes the world go round…
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 15:37:pm
does…
DDub (keepin' it real since Wesley's mugshot)
6/22/09, 15:46:pm
@ DR.FUNK
Yea they look pathetic to those paying close attention to what’s happening. But if they can get the average American to buy into it, they can start tarnishing Obama’s image.
Still, this is a pattern that persists. The Neo Conservative ideology of spreading democracy got us into the second war with Iraq. The first Bush decided against the regime change because Powell and others pushed back against them. Of course they got W to oust Saddam and now we got this mess.
Had they left Saddam in power it would have been a very different story with Iran because they kept each other in check militarily. We could have saved billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives.
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 15:58:pm
@everbody without a clue shouting this left-right bull*****… what did John Bolton say regarding an attack on Iran in 2007…
On May 16, 2007, the London Daily Telegraph reported that Bush regime official John Bolton told the Telegraph that a US military ATTACK on Iran would “be a ‘LAST OPTION’ after economic sanctions and ATTEMPT TO FORMENT A POPULAR REVELUTION… had failed.”
always knew
6/22/09, 16:20:pm
I hope that the iranian people are allowed to choose their own destny…
Eddie dollars- I was reading something this past weekend, and found out, some of what you are saying, is true…If he race war doesn’t start, then they will authorize another way to dstabilize the countries, they are having issues with..
I go back and forth, not wanting to believe that Barack is a puppet, when I really KNOW better…Wantig to believe he’s for us, when in reality there is not us. It ’s just the good guys against the bad and Kissinger is a former ***** himself and I can’t believe that the Americans let him dictate policy, without any criticism, issues..
I feel so sorry about Neda. This whole weekend I was watching the struggle. Feeling torn because i do believe in freedom of speech, sorry that they are being oppressed. Knowing that man can only take over the entirw world,through oppression…
miss talking to you and would really like to set something up, will be up north next week (Around the 4th)..
White Devil
6/22/09, 16:27:pm
@ eddiedollars215
My view is less black and white than yours. The United States, which has often supported democracy, overthrew the democratically elected goverment of Iran to control oil. The dictator who was then put in place by the U.S. (The Shah) was overthrown by the people and replaced with a religious government which was in some ways more repressive than the last. Currently, the protestors are trying to get a fair chance at electing their candidate. Their candidate was one of the ones pre selected by the ruling religious elite and was one of the main figures in the revolution against the Shah. The U.S. sympathizes with the protestors, who are supporting a candidate who will continue to try to build a nuclear weapon and threaten Israel and who helped overthrow the U.S.’ chosen dictator. There is nothing black and white about this history. All sides can be looked at as good or bad.
White Devil
6/22/09, 16:33:pm
@ eddiedollars215
John Bolton, Henry Kissinger and Zbignew Brezinski and not members of the current administration. I don’t think that they are the kind of people that Obama listens to.
White Devil
6/22/09, 16:37:pm
“and not” = are not
DDub (keepin' it real since Wesley's mugshot)
6/22/09, 17:05:pm
@ White Devil
That’s a pretty accurate summation, devoid of the hyperbole, partisan talk and conspiracy nonsense that tends to take form in these types of discussions. Kudos.
Though, anytime Kissinger agrees with Obama it’s a good look, whether or not BO touts it.
Demeter
6/22/09, 17:22:pm
Situations like this in the world really make me grateful to live in the United States. We aren’t perfect but there are ALOT of things we take for granted.
glamazon85
6/22/09, 17:33:pm
This ***** is F*CKING RIDICULOUS!
Shay
6/22/09, 17:48:pm
I think we should stay out of it for a couple reason.
1. We’re already too far into the middle east we need to step back.
2. The US has been accused (for good reason) over the years of meddling in Irans leadership. I don’t agree with any of the moves we’ve done in the past so why bother with them now.
3. You can’t force our style of “democracy” on another nation.
4. The people have to be willing to fight for what they believe in we can’t give them anything.
5. We wouldn’t like any country telling us how to handle our elections or the aftermath of them (2000 & 2004). Please believe if we acted like the Iranians in the street the police would be beating our *****es too.
5. We don’t know if there is really election fraud. Just like every other nation there are different cultures and beliefs. The Iranians that live in the city have a different view point than Iranians in rual areas.
6. Don’t believe the hype coming from the republicans about Obamas inaction. The opposition leader isn’t more pro-America than Ahmadinajad. This is only another lame reason for them to nip at his heels. The Republicans wouldn’t do anything either and if they did they would only make it worse by suggesting that Isreal attack Iran during this chaos.
me (the original)®
6/22/09, 19:02:pm
@eddiedollars 215
Interesting theory. What, then, if nothing comes of this? (which, by the way, is entirely possible.)
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 20:00:pm
John Bolton, Henry Kissinger and Zbignew Brezinski and not members of the current administration. I don’t think that they are the kind of people that Obama listens to….
WHAT… This is what I mean… you don’t know what you are talking about… Obama calls Brzezinski his MENTOR… that’s why he’s his foreign policy advisor… again you got on some left-right bull***** as soon as I named Bolton missing my entire point… THEY ARE ON THE SAME TEAM… as for Kissinger… how about a direct quote from the current United States National Security Advisor James L. Jones… straight off the CFR website…
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“Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through Generaal [sic] Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.” – 2/8/09 James L. Jones (CURRENT United States National Security Advisor)
Like I said you people don’t know how the world really works… so you can keep giving each other kudos all you like… you’re still wrong…
eddiedollars215
6/22/09, 20:02:pm
yeah… I TAKE MY DAILY ORDERS FROM DR. KISSINGER… but he’s not the type of person they would listen to… get the ***** out of here… go turn on CNN and drink your Kool-aid…
white male
6/22/09, 20:26:pm
I hope obama is listening to kissinger
White Devil
6/22/09, 23:52:pm
@ eddiedollars215
I listened to that speech and some in the audience laughed when he said that. He wasn’t serious. Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger all served as National Security Advisors prior to General Jones. General Jones was giving props to his predecessors. He was trying to be nice to Kissinger and he should have been more careful. Every loony conspiracy site on the internet now has taken that quote as the gospel. Kissinger, Scowcroft and Berger all had very different views on foreign policy. Brent Scowcroft came out very publically against the Iraq war and since he was very close to Bush Sr., many thought he was speaking for Bush Sr. Sandy Berger served under Clinton and was far less hawkish than Kissinger.
black
6/23/09, 01:14:am
I have not been disturbed to the core like that in a while…the youth are the answer to a new Iran
eddiedollars215
6/23/09, 17:42:pm
yeah I saw it too… everyone was laughing (because they all know there is humor in truth)… kind of like when everyone was laughing when ***** Cheney was talking about how he didn’t mention his CFR membership when he was running for reelection… or when everyone was laughing when George Bush said here’s my base… the haves and the have mores… again… look at what John Bolton said… and whats going on now… SANDY BEREGER GOT CAUGHT STUFFING DO*****ENTS FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES DOWN HIS PANTS… ARE YOU SERIOUS… only an idiot would think a half african named Barack Hussein goes from a state senator to president in 8 years… when previously he couldn’t beat Bobby Rush… so yeah you can dismiss everything as happenstance and burry your head in the sand… but you have not refuted a single claim I made…