Jesus Take The Wheel

Posted on February 29th, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Jesus Take The Wheel, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

juvenilekiller

Juvenile’s daughter was murdered yesterday:

Cops in Georgia arrested a 17-year-old boy on Friday and charged him with killing his mother, who was a local sheriff’s deputy, and his two small sisters. One of those little girls was the daughter of rapper Juvenile. Anthony Tyrone Terrell Jr. allegedly gunned down his mother, Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Deputy Joy Deleston, 39, and her two daughters, Micaiah, 11, and Jelani, 4.

SMH. Our prayers and best wishes go out to the family.

  • haha

    1st

  • nolagurl

    You are in our prayers.

  • kennedy

    The blood of jesus…… This is ridiculous. Juve and his family are in our prayers.

  • haha

    p..s i didnt mean haha about the story….just about being 1st…prayers for the famlies

  • http://site.gravatar.com/activate/c04615e20e4c2512a63e RIP Omar Little

    That is CRAZY.. & that’s his arrest mugshot? Dude look like he doesnt have an once of remorse. Thats chilling.

  • it’smesuprise

    The devil is working overtime…God Bless Juvenile and all families involved…may strength carry them through this tough time…

  • wow wow

    Truly sad.

  • Lisa

    This is horrible. I saw this story yesterday, but I saw the Juvenile connection today. This is so sad.

  • http://site.gravatar.com/activate/c04615e20e4c2512a63e RIP Omar Little

    my prayers for the family..

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    U BLACK AMERICANS NEED HELP. CONTINUE AT THIS RATE, U’LL END UP WIPING URSELVES OUT. THANK GOD THAT THE REST OF THE BLACK PPL ON THIS PLANT HAVE MUCH MORE COMMON FRIGGIN SENSE.

    P.S. NOTICE I SAID BLACK AMERICANS AND NOT AFRICAN AMERICANS. THIS IS COS MOST OF U R NOT WORTHY TO HAVE THE TERM ‘AFRICAN’ ASCRIBED TO U!

  • VicKaLiCiouS

    That’s a damn shame….

    What’s up with kids these days?

  • BG

    THIS IS TRULY CRAZY. HOW DO YOU KILL YOUR MOM??? THE PERSON WHO BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS WORLD??? AND YOUR SISTERS???………….CRAZY

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY. MAY GOD BE WITH THEM

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    I’D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF RAPER THIS JUVENILE GUY IS. HAS HE BEEN GLORIFYING VIOLENCE? THAT WOULD SAY A LOT!!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    SORRY RAPPER

  • OBAMA 2008

    I read this on MTO and thought they were lying…so sad…my condolences….

  • Ms. Fab

    Can you trolls — I’m talking to you, “FoxyCleopatra” and “ChocolateSistah30″ both you sound damn foolish — shut the hell up for a minute?? This is a tragedy. I’m sure there’s some back story but it’s awful, awful, awful, pure and simple. He will live to regret what he’s done.

    Juvenile has had some very bad luck lately….first NOLA and now this…..

  • TaShA

    OMG!! that is absolutely terrible!! they will be in my prayers…Lord help all involved

  • tj

    This is a cultural problem. We have to turn around this violence and ignorance in our community. Letting your kids listen to Lil Wayne isn’t helping people. White kids listen to Marilyn Manson and their parents march on washington. Black kids turn on ignorance and their parents start dancing.

    SMH.

  • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar.php?gravatar_id=ba856385fb8fdd77f11f7d026f48936c MissMyeisha

    Prayers go out to the families affected by this loss. When will we embrace our black community?

  • bree

    ok whoa. this is crazy..he killed his mom AND his lil sisters..then he takes a mugshot and has the nerve to bite his lip like this is a party picture..he will get his..my condolences

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    MS. FAB,

    IF NAME CALLING IS WHAT WILL MAKE U FEEL BETTER, THEN BY ALL MEANS GO AHEAD.

    U R RIGHT THIS IS A TRAGEDY BUT THE TRUTH NEEDS TO BE SAID. U BLK AMERICANS NEED DELIVERANCE IN THE FORM OF SOME DIVINE INTERVENTION!!!! U WILL KILL URSELVES. NO POINT IN CRYING ABOUT IT. IT IS INEVITABLE UNLESS U LOT DO SOMETHING TO CHANGE IT ASAP!!!

    THE TRUTH IS BITTER….I KNOW

  • Chuck

    Guys, juvie abandoned this girl in ’03. He doesn’t have anything to do with her. Even after the paternity test proved she’s his child, he’s a deadbeat dad. I feel sorry for the family. Juvie needs his ass beat, just like the dude who pulled the trigger. Juvie is no better.

  • and another one…

    DAMN? WTF? That is so so sad. I love Juvie, that is so damn wrong WHY? God be with Juve and his family.

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    foxycleo…stfu! thank you!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ CHOCOLATE SISTA,

    AS MUCH AS I GET WHAT U R SAYIN, I DO NOT AGREE WITH U VERY MUCH. IT IS BCOS U HAVE ALLOWED THESE PPLE TO BE THE ONES REPRESENTING U. SEE HOW RAPPERS N BALLERS ARE ‘BIGGED UP’ IN BLACK AMERICAN CULTURE. WHY DON’T WE SEE THE SAME RESPECT FOR BLACK PPLE THAT ACUALLY DO THINGS THAT REQUIRE SOME BRAIN POWER?

    HOW ABOUT U LOT STARTED ‘BIGGIN UP’ EDUCATION?

  • Kompton’s Kutie

    Wow! A Shame! This is truly SAD! That Boy Is Crazy! God Bless the Fam!……….

  • DAMN

    That is some dirty s??t

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    ms. suga welss

    Y SHOULD I? DON’T LYK WHAT UR HEARING? WELL TOUGH….DEAL WITH IT!!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    SO THIS JUVENILE IDIOT EVEN ABANDNED HIS KID YET U STILL HAVE MORONS IN HERE RAINING PRAISE ON HIM N SAYING HOW MUCH THEY LOVE HIM.

    IF SUCH DEAD BEAT TRIFLERS ARE HE ONES OUT THERE SETTING EXAMPLES FOR BLACK YOUTH AND WE HAVE A LOT OF U IDIOTS PRAISING THEM, WELL WHAT DO U EXPECT?

    ANS: 70% OF UR KIDS BORN INTO SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS!

    WAKE UP!!

  • Nathaniel

    Hope that some Juve’s Goonies or Juve Himself Sh*t this lil dirty a** Bastard in the back and let him lost all his blood all ova the floor before to die. That’s F’ed up i Know. But damn, Someone does that to My Kids, F**k Jail, imma Take you life Away Boy. God i Know i’m bad on This One But I’m tired of dem kids tryna do that “Damn Thang” tryna prove this or that. Stupidity is to the world what Aids is to People. One Thought to All Those Families who lived or R livin the same drama…

  • Spring Water

    Jesus Christ. What would posses someone to kill their mom and his sisters? what in the the world…so disheartening. God bless their souls! They boy betta find jesus before he dies, because im sure there is a special spot in hell for ppl like him.

  • http://youtube.com/watch?v=NNDdqYZT8ZQ Snick is lookin’ for WeSS too!

    sending up a prayer for strength for the family!

    this child is lost and needs help, forgive him Lord!

  • http://www.myspace.com/phillystudio PHILLY DA BOSS inda323

    evil is so real….

    i dont trust my cousin no more neither

    when he get outta jail i aint finna be around

    keep good people around you

  • Kompton’s Kutie

    @FOXYCLEOPATRA

    P.S. NOTICE I SAID BLACK AMERICANS AND NOT AFRICAN AMERICANS. THIS IS COS MOST OF U R NOT WORTHY TO HAVE THE TERM ‘AFRICAN’ ASCRIBED TO U!

    ————————-

    If u went to college and was taught correctly. U would know the difference between African-American and Black!

    African-American- Born in Africa later moving to America. But “politically correct” referring to Blacks in America.

    Black- the creolization of Africans with 3 or more races. Descendents of African slaves. Roots usually trace back to many countries not just Africa

    No, I guess we are not Africans then are we, becuz we are mixed with that and many other things.

  • Kenny

    God have Mercy!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    BTW,

    THAT JUVENILE DUDE IS ‘FUGGERS’….SOOO DAMN UGLY

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    CLEOHO

    U don’t even know who the hell he is, so how can you say that he abandon his kid?? are you living with him, are you a fly on the wall? If you are not sure..stfd, and get a rise of something else..possibly a bum! do something, and calm the hell down! lol

  • The Bear

    Umm Foxy Cleo,,

    Why you wanna single out Black Americans? A few years ago there was genocide in Sudan between Hutus and Watusis or whoseewhatsits or whatever and over a million died in a short timespan. Also Rwanda, Liberia. Why you just want to dis black american? Talkin bout they don’t deserve to be called African… And you wanna use a sad occasion as this to make your disrespectful remarks.

    I think you diserve a “Hoe Sit Down” and a “Hoe Shut Up” for that one.

  • Kompton’s Kutie

    @FOXYCLEOPATRA

    I didn’t define what Black is dummy! That is the definition!

    If u read, u would know that!

    And a White man/woman didn’t teach me that.

    What the hell I look like enrolling in a class with a White person teaching me about my past?!

    When u learn something, kuz I see ur misguided, then u’ll understand but for now Imma let u be mad at whoever, becuz last time I check most of us never lived in Africa!

    Mixed Africans and Black Americans are two different things. Go learn!

  • The Bear

    rofl @ Foxy Cleo “AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY BUT A COUNTRY”….

    Ok everybody lets say it in unison!!!:

    HOE SIT DOWN!!!

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    Single parent or not, I am sure there are kids that have it much worst than this cat and do not commit such a deplorable act.

    This little demon is a liability, how can he be rehabilitated after this. I am past mercy. What ever happens happens. Que Sera you little deviled nigglet judgment day is coming.

  • http://idkwhat2say.com wow… aka idk… aka candy is ALSO looking for WESSIE!

    wow! that is so sad

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ THE BEAR,

    U CAN ‘HOE…WHATEVER U WANT’. KNOCK URSELF OUT.

    OK LOOK, MY INTENTIONS ARE NOT TO OFFEND. U GIVE THESE EXAMPLES BUT SO? THERE HAVE BEEN WARS ALL AROUND THE WORLD. THESE PPL ARE FIGHTING FOR VARIOUS POLITICAL REASONS, MOST OF THEM HIDEOUS REASONS ALL THE SAME. THAT STILL DOES NOT GIVE BLACK AMERICANS AN EXCUSE.

    B4 I GO ON THO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW Y U ONLY GAVE EXAMPLES OF COUNTRIES IN AFRICA?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1VkFVW0ns leave it be(searching for WESSIE)

    this is the second saddest story ive heard this week!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    The Bear

    rofl @ Foxy Cleo “AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY BUT A COUNTRY”….

    Ok everybody lets say it in unison!!!:

    HOE SIT DOWN!!!

    —————————

    ISN’T IT OBVIOUS IT WAS A MISTAKE?

    ANYWAY I’LL CORRECT MYSELF.

    AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY BUT A CONTINENT

  • The Bear

    @ Foxy Cleo

    If your intentions were not to offend it was surely hard to tell. You was a fire breating dragon looking to burn all ‘black americans in your 1st post.

    I gave African examples of genocide because you were giving the impression that black people only are killing each other in America and are so ignorant that we should not be called African Americans. You tried to make a point so I made a counter-point.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @KOMPTN KUTIE,

    LOOK, I’M REFERRING TO ALL BLACK PPLE IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE THEY ARE FROM. IF U TOOK UR AVERAGE BLACK AMERICAN, BLACK SOUTHERN AMERICAN , BLACK BRITISH, AFRO-CARRIBEAN, WEST AFRICAN, OR ANY BLACK AFRICAN, U MOST PROBABLY WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE BY JUST LOOKING AT THEM.

    IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE U R FROM, UR RACE IS BLACK. UR ETHNICITY ON THE OTHER HAND IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.

    FOR EG, U HAVE WHITE PPLE. THEIR RACE IS WHITE. THEN THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES EG AMERICAN (ALTHOUGH THEY WOULD HAVE SOME EUROPEAN ETHNICITY), EUROPEANS, SCANDINAVIANS ETC.

  • http://youtube.com/watch?v=NNDdqYZT8ZQ Snick is lookin’ for WeSS too!

    same here LIB!!

  • Yve

    FCleo I dont know if your white or black but if you’re black you disgraceful and not a good representative of our people. This crime has nothing to do with race. People of all races kill each other daily. Don’t make this about race. This tragedy has happened and ruined the lives of all connected to that family.

    The way you separate yourself boggles the mind. What you say about black people makes you worse then the people your trying to condemn. SMH

  • Shay

    I’m not the kind of person to say “we are at the last days” but sometimes I think the world has lost it’s mind.

    Killing is bad in general but killing defenceless children is a crime against humanity. There’s a case here in my city about some idiots that robbed a house for weed and shot 2 mothers and their kids one 4 months old and the other 2 years old.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    Cleo,

    You are coming off as insensitive and classless. You do not speak for Africans and you do not currently speak for humanity.

    If you have been feeling like pissed on snow lately work that out with your therapist. But the scene you have put on in here is completely disrespectful.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ YVE,

    I’M TRYING TO CONDEMN NO ONE. THE RATE OF MURDER AMONG BLACK AMERICANS IS VERY HIGH.

    DO U KNOW WHAT THE NO 1. KILLER OF BLACK MALES IN AMERICA IS?

    HEART DISEASE? CANCER? ACCIDENTS?…NO

    .

    .

    .

    IT IS:

    1. THE GUN

  • Look@urself

    very sad my prayers are with him and his family at this time

  • The Bear

    Umm Foxy

    Maybe @ 1st you offended the peeps cause you spoke without thinking. Or maybe you really do think you’re ‘better’ than black americans deep down in your heart. But you are trying to justify you silly comments and you are speaking pure gibberish now. (Not a good look for such an educated half-breed African) You can still save a little face if you just SIT DOWN!!!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    THE NO 1. CAUSE OF ACCIDENTS AMONG BLACK MALES IN AMERICA IS:

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    WAIT FOR IT

    .

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    .

    .

    .

    .

    DROWNING!!!!

    SO U GUYS SHOULD BETTER GO LEARN TO SWIM.

    P.S. THIS ALTHOUGH TRUE WAS POSTED AS A JOKE MEANT TO LIGHTEN THE MOOD BUT I DOUBT THAT IS GONNA HAPPEN! HAHA

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1VkFVW0ns leave it be(searching for WESSIE)

    hey wow!!!

  • The Bear

    Somebody needs to taser this trick!!!

  • I’m sick of you…

    Every race has assholes in it….not just the BLACK RACE! Foxy you’ve proven that point all to well. It hasn’t been proven this child really did this. If he did, he will be dealt with accordingly, by GOD, Just as all sinners will. Maybe we should keep in mind, that God has no moral court. A sin is a sin. Screwing out of wedlock, stealing, lying, jealousy, gossiping, MURDER, etc.

    Most Americans, Europeans, Hispanics, Asians, Indians and so on and so forth, need to sit down someplace and do better. Why don’t you be one of the first, Foxy? With your silly, offensive ass.

    May God have mercy on all of our souls.

  • http://youtube.com/watch?v=NNDdqYZT8ZQ Snick is lookin’ for WeSS too!

    LIB wait for her…you know she prolly got her hands full with gummy worms and cheetos!

  • STFU

    I think this Foxycleo person is Marquis de Sade, just saying……

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-1VkFVW0ns leave it be(searching for WESSIE)

    lmao…or gushers, SNICKERS… we mentioned food, she’ll be here!

  • The Bear

    rofl @ Foxy Cleo:

    “SO U GUYS SHOULD BETTER GO LEARN TO SWIM.”

    FOXY CLEO SHOULD BETTER GO LEARN SPEAK ENGLISH

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    foxy

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk

    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

    wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk

  • The Bear

    I see none of you brought your taser. darn

  • http://www.myspace.com/tearose33 TEAROSE

    FOXYCLEO…..Yes I had to comment on that. You are right, don’t get me wrong Juve is one of my fave rappers, but he writes and sings about guns and violence too. I hope this is a wakeup call to everyone…..words are things, and they bring back to you what you send out. I feel his angel gave her life to help make her dad and the world a better place. Pray for them…they are at peace. Juve will never be the same….I bet he won’t look at a gun the same way again. Choose Love

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    That’s fucc’d up!!!

  • rayray

    fry him,,,slow..THAT MEANS : THE CHAIR! LET’S NOT BE SOFT….(like the guiltless black family)

    give’em the chair….he’s a murderer!

    think

  • The Bear

    I gotta differ with you on some things Chocolate Beauty. Africa is not by any means a poor or broke continent. Europe is wealthy today because of wealth stolen from Africa. Africa still has the natural resources to be THE superpower in the world if there could ever be a stable and honest government to consolidate and manage those resources. But the 1st world wil ensure that never happens.

  • Kenny

    Lets pay RESPECT and not argue over Africans vs Blacks

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @Rocked up Cleo

    You see what you want to see. If African Americans were a country we would be around number 15th in the wealthiest nations based on GDP. A higher percentage of us are excelling than any African nation out there. Please name one where this isn’t true.

    Only 30 % of us are below poverty line and we are only 4 generations from enslavement. African American college graduate women make more money on average than any other group of women including the sanctified white woman. Black males are only behind whites and Asians despite the violence you preach on.

    You don’t sound concerned you sound condescending. How many first and second generation Africans are factored into those statistics. It’s different here. It’s so amazing how individuals from every where else feel so comfortable passing judgment. But I have my own theories on you. People like your self simply want to come here and side with the majority.

    So envious of white status that you pretend you don’t see the truth. Well stay here long enough, you will see it and your kids will see it. Matter fact speaking of Rowanda where did the divisions come from. Where did the hate form. The Portuguese stripped that country dry and set it up for civil war.

    And you can’t see why things are like they are in America. You don’t want to see it because people like you are envious of us.

    But as I said you don’t speak for all Africa. You shouldn’t even speak…

  • The Bear

    Even the uranium for their nuclear weapons come from Africa… hmmmmm

  • The Bear

    Ok, I got one last question for you Foxy… How do you say “HOE SIT DOWN!!!!!” in Nigerian???

  • kweenthatiam

    FOXYCLEOPATRA

    U BLACK AMERICANS NEED HELP. CONTINUE AT THIS RATE, U’LL END UP WIPING URSELVES OUT. THANK GOD THAT THE REST OF THE BLACK PPL ON THIS PLANT HAVE MUCH MORE COMMON FRIGGIN SENSE.

    P.S. NOTICE I SAID BLACK AMERICANS AND NOT AFRICAN AMERICANS. THIS IS COS MOST OF U R NOT WORTHY TO HAVE THE TERM ‘AFRICAN’ ASCRIBED TO U!

    Please Miss Thang Don’t act like like there isn’t genocide in Africa, are you serious? Not to separate us or anything but do you realize the type of violence that’s going on in Rwanda for one. What you need to do is look at the whole god damn situation, and not as a black and white thing, stop trying to call black people in America out on a sly.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @MONO

    I CONGRATULATE U FOR BEING WHO U ARE…WHATEVER THAT IS BUT U TOTALLY MISS MY POINT. I MIGHT SOUND CONDESCENDING BUT TELL ME, ISN’T THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT U WILL UNDERSTAND? ITS EITHR THAT OR FORCE.

    PLS WHAT IS WHITE STATUS? THE TERM IS ALIEN TO ME SO I CAN’T EVEN REPLY ON THAT. AS FOR ME BEING ENVIOUS OF U, BY ALL MEANS BELIEVE THAT. U KNOW I’M NOT BUT IF IT HELPS IN MAKING U AND THE OTHER PPL READING UR POST PLS BELIVE IT. IF THE END RESULTS ID THAT U LOT WILL STOP ALL YOUR SELF-HATING, THEN IT CAN ONLY BE A GOOD THING.

    THE END IN THIS CASE WILL JUSTIFY THE MEANS.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @RAYRAY

    I AM NIGERIAN SO PLS STOP MENTIONIN ALL THIS, RWANDA, HUTSI STUFF. ITS LIKE TELLING A BRITISH PERSON ABOUT HOW THINGS ROMANIA.

    AFRICA IS A CONTINENT!!!!! GET IT?

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    IN NIGERIA, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT LANGUAUGES SO CAN’T HELP U ON THAT ONE

  • rayray

    foxy…

    i was in nigeria….

    Please don’t talk to these people.

    SEE..I KNOW THE TRUTH..1/2 OF THE NIGERIANS THAT MAKE IT TO AMERICA STAY HERE AND GO INTO MEDICAL SALES…ILLEGAL MEDICAL SALES.

    LOTS OF THEM END UP DRIVING TAXI’S FEW GO BACKAND TRY TO OPEN A MEDICAL PRACTICE,BUT THE MONEY IS DEVALUED!! SOME ALSO STAY IN THE STATES AND TRY TO SELL OIL CONTRACTS….ILLEGALLY!

    WHEN U GO TO NIGERIA;

    YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GO & PAY TO LEAVE.

    like i said,i’m a world traveler.you can snow these people but you can’t snow me…..

    most internet swindles,come from from precious motherland…..TOO FUNNY

    THINK

  • The Bear

    So you’re confused… Which explains why you have yet to follow my friendly advice to SIT DOWN.

  • rayray

    FOXY

    I GET IT…..just like america in a continent…

    get it?

    SEE….YOU DECIDED TO SLAM ALL BLACK AMERICANS……SO LET’S SIT TIGHT AND TAKE OUR SLAMMINGS LIKE ADULTS…….I TALKED ABOUT AFRICANS…U ARE AFRICAN NO?

    THINK

  • Me

    Maybe you Africans should just stay in Africa and go to school, and be engineers, scientist, and doctors, then you won’t have to deal with all the bull African-Americans put out.

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    ummm RAYRAY

    did you just sit this hoe..DOWN???

  • The Bear

    Oh Foxy lets not even talk about Nigeria with the yahoo, yahoo boyz. And Militant bandit gangs in the Rivers State and elsewhere. You trying to tell us everything is on the up and up In Nigeria?

  • Blessed

    Yes, shes sitting. HahaHa

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    screaming!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    RAYRAY,

    U R RIGHT, BUT WHO ARE THE FOOLS THAT CONTINUE TO FALL FOR THESE SCAMS? DEFINITELY NOT BLACK AFRICANS

  • Me

    AND for RayRays Nigerian experience and comments…most definitely TRUE

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    Thats amazing allot of Nigerians are cool. But honestly when did you become the sponsors of peaceful existence. Lagos has one of the highest crime rates in the world.

    90% of your population makes less than 2 dollars a day. The other 10% are rich as hell and exploit the hell out of the lower class. You kill each other, how hypocritical when you kill each other.

    Where were you in those numbers? How easy it is to leave home and talk about how splendiferous it was. Living on top of the hill when most are barely eating. If you are the 10% you may have been no different than white people. How are you giving back? You are in no position to pass judgment.

    They keep you down more than us. All the resources you have and the west gets them for the lo lo then sprinkles a few dollars you way to watch you turn on yourselves. You should now about white status they’re exploiting you just like they did us to get it.

    Like I said you do not speak for Africa. You do not speak for Nigeria. You do not speak.

    As for me I am a Black American of African Decent and proud of it. Probably one of the most intelligent individual you will ever communicate with. When you become proud of who you are you will be able to identify with us. Until then you personally are just a global liability.

  • IamWhite

    i saw this on cnn ..did’nt say the rapper being calling himself “juvenille” as the father..BUT IT DID SAY THE MOTHER WAS WORKING AS A GUARD IN A PRISON IN THE SEX CRIMES UNIT…so somebody was not paying child support

    THIS MAKES ME SOOOOO SICK

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ME,

    WE R DOING JUST THAT….GETTING AN EDUCATION

  • The Bear

    Who in here has NOT recieved at least one lame email from a nigerian Claiming to be some official who needs to transfer(steal) $100,000,000 from some national fund or another by putting it in a foreign bank account and offering the account holder a percentage of the stolen money. Sounds like a country full of desperate, dishonest, losers to me.

  • Blessed

    Cleo. You look up to us and you feel inferior, I can tell. Its Ok. We love you, we are “your brothers and sisters” right?

  • The Bear

    @ Mono

    Im lovin the word “splendiferous”.

    Can I jack that one please?

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    I am not going to generalize but this one here is some representative. Came in her with her clown suit on

  • Blessed

    O ya boy Obama. American

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    TO EVERYONE

    I SINCERELY APOLOGISE FOR ANY OFFENCE I HAVE CAUSED. WOULD LOVE TO STAY BUT THERE IS THIS HOT GUY I’M TALKIN TO ON THE PHONE N HE’S GETTING A LITLE PISSED THAT I’M NOT PAYIN ATTENTION. WE CAN CONTINUE TOMMORROW.

    AGAIN APOLOGIES. NO OFFENCE TAKEN NONE GIVEN. PEACE OUT, GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS

  • Me

    Then stay at your superb schools at home, stop 419 people if ya’ll are so intelligent do a real job. Fix Nigeria to where they have good roads, TELEPHONE system, no blackouts, political scams, stealing from compounds, running water. Build up your schools and country, get some electricity. The proper education ya’ll get get here put it to use instead of scamming Americans, MOSTTLY white Americans. Build up you country because it does not compare to many. Stop being greedy and worry about what Mercedes someone is driving and build up your country. Get your education and build your country to exemplary status. Everywhere in Nigeria there is a bribe or armed robbery, ya’ll are no better than African-Americans.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    BYE BYE

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @ The Bear

    It’s yours brother let’s tell every one how splendiferous it is to be Black American. And we still love Africa!!

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    You don’t have to go but you will take your shoes off at the door!!

  • Blessed

    Yeah I bet that dude on the phone probaly white. HAHAhaha(nothing wrong with that, but miss all mighty African would be the first to start changing her babies. Hahaha.

    tell BO I said good night.

  • The Bear

    You don’t gotta go home to Nigeria… But you gotta get the hellllll outta hear!!!!!!!

  • The Bear

    And please let us NOT continue tomorrow!!!

  • Dolla Bill

    My heart goes out to Juve….I respect that dude to the fullest.

  • The Bear

    Told yall, Sombody shouldda tasered her ass b4 she left…LOL

  • Implant Buster

    Get her RayRay!^^^ I was thinking the same thing. I haven’t seen the Nigerians doing nothing but selling fake ass Coach bags on the street. I’ve never been to Africa, so I don’t have any experience, but if Nigeria is so wonderful, why are you studying in London Ms. Foxy?

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    God bless, the dead and every one impacted. Those two babies were cut down before they had a chance to even see life.

    Despite the situation this has to be a hard time for Juvi. Murdered by there own despicable blood.

  • rayray

    GIVE OLE BOY …the chair! Fry his young ass,so the walls are soaked with the smell of his flesh.

    I go for the slow fry.The type electro-frying at makes you scream like a baby till you smell your own waste,and in your own pain,u strt to smell what diffrent parts of your organs smell like! loos at the smug look on his face.

    OR…

    make a SNUF MOVIE staring HIM and a big bodybuilder fag……

    dirty bastard!

    think

  • The Bear

    @ Chocolate

    She had us all hot… lol. You ain’t have a taser?

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    HEEEEY I’M BACK BUT JUST FOR A SHORT WHILE SO U BETTER TASER MY ASS SOON

  • Blessed

    Don’t tase me bro. Shoot a arrow at her ass.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ IMPLANT BUSTER,

    WHO TOLD U I AM IN LONDON?

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    U GUYS CRACK ME UP

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    You bore me.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    DON’T GET Y ALL OF U WERE GETTING PISSED OFF. I DIDN’T GET PISSED AT WHAT U GUYS WERE SAYING.

    SERIOUSLY LIGHTEN UP!

  • Me

    waiting…

  • Implant Buster

    Ms. Sugar Walls, I think this caption from TMZ is why people are calling him a dead beat dad:

    Anthony Tyrone Terrell Jr. allegedly gunned down his mother, Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Deputy Joy Deleston, 39, and her two daughters, Micaiah, 11, and Jelani, 4. Jelani was Juvenile’s daughter. In 2003, the rapper, whose real name is Terius Gray, was arrested for abandonment of a dependent child after a DNA test determined he was the father.

    By the way, just because Juvi didn’t step up in the beginning, does not mean that he didn’t contribute later. The fact that she worked in law enforcement doesn’t have anything to do with it either. I’m sure she probably worked in LE before she met Juvi, and saw no reason to give up her career afterwards. Not everyone tries to make a living off of rappers child support checks.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @ THE BEAR,

    I HOPE UR A CUTE GUY COS THERE IS SOMETHIN BOUT U THAT TURNS ME ON. DAMN

    PLS TELL ME UR NOT A CHICK OR AN UGLY GUY.

    UR PROBABLY BEEFIN ME NOW BUT IF UR GORGEOUS I’M SURE WE CAN STILL MAKE IT WORK

  • Dr. Doom

    Black Americans, African Americans, Bah! In my eyes, you’re all rodents and are equally worthless…So cease this mindless prattling. You bore Doom.

  • BlankCheck

    It is so tragic that a four-year-old died. I hope that God’s grace will sustain surviving family members through this time. God bless that little girl and the others that were lost to this horrible person.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @THE BEAR,

    I’M SURE UR A CHICK

  • Implant Buster

    @ FoxyCleo, I read these blogs often, but rarely do I post. I remember back in the days of “Big Jim” and “6AM” you were talking about going to University in London.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    DR.DOOM U R A FOOL. PLS NO ONE ELSE PAY ATTENTION TO THE MINDLESS IDIOT.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    Cool two mindless idiots to ignore.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @IMPLANT BUSTER,

    WELL GOOD TO SEE U HAVE A GOOD MEMORY. ANYWAY, I SAID UNI IN ENGLAND NOT LONDON

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @MONO

    YEAH DR. DOOM AND MONO

  • Dr. Doom

    @ KUNTACLEOPATRA

    You dare mock Doom! Doom will live to see you deported, immigrant.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    Get her Bear!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    WELL THAT DIDN’T TURN ME ON BUT WE CAN STILL IGNORE IT.

  • The Bear

    So the thought of being tasered in the ass turns you on?

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    DR. DOOM,

    CONTINUE. AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED U ARE ONE OF THE PPL GOD PUT ON THIS EARTH FOR MY SOLE ENTERTAINMENT SO CONTINUE TO ENTERTAIN ME U PUPPET.

    P.S. THIS IS THE LAST COMMENT I WILL ADDRESS TO U. BYE

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    NO IT DOESN’T. THINK WHAT TURNS ME ON IS THE WAY U STOOD UP 4 URSELF…..MAYBE

  • The Bear

    Doom seems like the type of dude who might have a whole collection of tasers. SO you might wanna get to know him Cleo.

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    IMPANT BUSTER

    BE CAREFUL..YOU MIGHT OF JUST TALKED UP BIG JIM, AND 5 AM! LOL

    THOSE FOOLS! SO..U HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A WHILE..TO REMEMBER THEM NUTJOBS!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    STOP TEASIN ME BEAR

  • The Bear

    just sayin… since you’re into that sorta thing.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    THE ONLY THING I’M INTO IS U MY BEAR

  • Dr. Doom

    @ Chocolatepantieskidmark

    HAH! You can only insult someone if you have a mind. You have proven to Doom that you are sorely lacking in that endeavor. Begone gnat.

  • The Bear

    I am soo trippin today…

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    THE ABOVE WAS JUST A TEST

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    Y R U TRIPPIN?

  • The Bear

    Aight then Ms. Foxy… why don’t you just post your digits and your email so that we… errr, I mean I can get in touch with your fine ass.

  • Dr. Doom

    @ Bear

    Doom would have words with you. Why are you humoring this loathsome trollup KuntaCleopatra? You should consider her beneath you.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @MONO

    THERE R LOADS OF CARDS I COULD V PLAYED. I JUST CHOSE THAT ONE COS OF BEAR

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    DR. FOOL

    STOP WATCHING STAR TREK..YOUR DELUSIONAL LAME!

    IT IS SUGAR WALLS..SAY IT RIGHT..DRIPPY MOUTH BASTARD! LOL

  • The Bear

    And who let the fake ass Dr. Evil up in here???

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    YOU

  • Dr. Doom

    You will all rue the day that you mocked DOOM!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    I HAVE TO KNOW U R ALSO A FINE ASS FIRST. COS I ONLY DEAL WITH FINE ASSES

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    ^^^^^^yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

  • The Bear

    Oh don’t trip Dr. Dumbass cause I like you even less than I liked her. I could have word with you if you want Dr. Retardo

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    I HAVE TOLD U GUYS TO IGNORE THE IDIOT THAT CALLS ITSELF DOOM. ITS JUST SOME CRAZY ATTENTION SEEKING ASS WIPE THAT IS NOTHIN MORE THAN A SKIDMARK IN THE TOILET. A LITTLE CHLORINE BLEACH AND ITS GONE.

    SILENCE IS THE BEST ANSWER FOR A FOOL LIKE IT!

  • The Bear

    Well post ur email and I’ll send pics. (wink, wink)

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    SO U DON’T LIKE ME. UR HURTIN MA FEELINGS. SNIFF SNIFF

  • The Bear

    Yeah He’s probably Nigerian or sumthin…

  • The Bear

    No offense there Foxy

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    THE GUY ON THE PHONE IS GETTING EVEN MORE PISSED SO BEAR, U BETTER MAKE THIS WORTH IT COS HE IS FINE AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!

  • The Bear

    I told you girl… gemme yo number and I’ll call…lol

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    NO OFFENCE TAKEN

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @MONO,

    R U A GUY, COS IT SEEMS I MIGHT SOON GET TOO BORED OF BEAR LIKE THE PHONE GUY. BEAR U BETTER SHAPE UP. I’M GIVIN U ONE MORE CHANCE

  • The Bear

    @ FOXYCLEOPATRA

    So What does a Bear gotta do to go down on you?

  • The Bear

    @ Dr. Dummy

    Get a load a this dude!!! He speaks with such authority… for a nigerian LOSER!!!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    WHO DOES THE IDIOTIC DOOM THINK IS FISHING FOR SEX? DOESN’T IT KNOW WHAT A JOKE IS? USELESS TWERP

  • The Bear

    Hold UP!!!!!

    There is a Fake ASS The Bear up in here!!!!

  • mr.anderson

    Fiducck dem cab driving, musty underarm stinkin, bootleg cd hustling, African nuccas. Shady azz crooks. Every time I shake hands with em ….. I have to count my fingers and make sure they’re all there. Real talk.

  • The Bear

    You better quit that ishh … that is not koshet

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    SO WHICH ONE IS THE REAL BEAR?

  • Dr Doom

    @ The Bear

    Fool! You dare make assumptions on Dooms’ lineage? All you need to know is that Doom is your better!

  • The Bear

    Get your own handle dawg…. only room for one bear in here

    The nerve of these iggs

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    STAR TREK NAZI ABNORMAL FREAK OF NATURE!!!!!!!!

  • Dr Doom

    @ The Bear

    Dolt! Don’t you mean Kosher?

  • The Bear

    Some busta used my handle to ask you what it would take to go down on you.

    What a CLOWN!!!

    I’d never ask that… I already know the answer.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    WELL BEAR,

    SEEMS SOMEONE HAS MESSED UP UR GAME BY IMPERSONATNG U. WELL BETTER LUCK. THINK I’LL STICK WITH THE PHONE GUY….HE’S SOOO SWEEET. FEEL A BIT GUILTY NOW.

  • The Bear

    @ FOXYCLEOPATRA

    Hey baby. In my life you would have three prominent positions: Missionary, Reverse Cowgirl, or Doggystyle. Ain’t nuthin too good for my future jump off.

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    WHAT IS THE ANSWER?

  • The Bear

    @ Cleo

    And Mono is most def NOT a guy

  • mspeay

    WHAT IS UP WITH YOU ALL?

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    THE IMPERSONATOR IS ACTUALLY QUITE ENTERTAINING. DUMB BUT ENTERTAINING

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @BEAR,

    IT DON’T MATTER ABOUT MONO ANYMORE COS I’M STICKING WITH PHONE GUY

  • http://www.GOTSTRONG.com GOTSTRONG

    Condolences to the families.

    http://www.myspace.com/GOTSTRONG

  • The Bear

    Yeah stick with the phone guy. You couldn’t get it anyways. lol

    And to the fake ass “The Bear” you obviously have zero persona of your own so you gotta shamelessly impersonate others. Poor thing…

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    OFF TO BED. SEE YA

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    TO FAKE BEAR,

    SEEMS BEAR ISN’T TOO HAPPY U SPOILT HIS RUN

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    @FAKE BEAR,

    THANX 4 D ABOVE POST. CONFIRMED U R AN IMPOSTOR

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    BYE

  • The Bear

    Bye boo.

  • The Bear

    @ Fake Ass “The Bear”

    This is so creepy its almost funny… almost. I’ve never witnessed some ish like this. Probably the closest you’ll ever be able get to a female anyways so I’ll let you have your fun.

  • The Bear

    Any low life who’s self esteem is too low to sign in under his own handle is just that… a poor thing… You test tube baby!!!

  • The Bear

    Why am I even responding to you? Your not even a low life… you’re a no life. Get up off my ish and quit using my handle you silly ass ho.

  • The Bear

    Geez!!!!

  • MIKKIMO

    @Dr Doom KMBA got he furk back to TMZ with the rest of the racists

  • The Bear

    Now I’m REALLY trippin

  • The Bear

    lol @ Mono… He was impersonating another dude cause he got no persona of his own. That makes him way less than a man and a poor thing in my book… I don’t recant that no matter what you say. I know who and what I am.

  • Donte

    God people this is not a chat room for christ sake will you guys read what your typeing your your convo it on the verge of being cave man like

  • The Bear

    Anyways my deepest condolences to all the surviving relatives of the departed(If you happen to read this). Now is a good time for all of us to reflect on our lives/situations and ask the question with sincerety. “Where do I want to spend eternity?” Its appointed unto each of us to die one day and after that comes the judgement.

  • The Bear

    …and I’m out

  • NYCHICK

    So sorry to hear about this tragedy. My prayers and condolences go out to the family.

  • briassparkles

    my prayer go out to Juvenile and his family and girl family thats left!

  • Georgia On My Mind

    @GROW UP 4REAL: THANK YOU.

    My prayers go out their family and friends.

    This didn’t happen to fair from where I live. One of the first things out of my mouth when my mother and I heard it on the local news was “Another crazy white boy.”, come on black people what do WE have to do….

    Everytime I look at his face I want to punch it.

    Again my prayers go out to their family..

  • http://www.myspace.com/pazjon1 Hey Hey

    OMG

    I read this story earlier, but did not realize it was Juvis daughter.

    Irregardless, it’s a sad story. They are getting younger and younger-Or it could be that I am getting older…

    Simple as it may seem.

    Peace and Love to the world!

  • damn

    I think we need some more evidence to come out before passing judgement. Everything just seems a little weird to me. For everyone around him to say he seemed to love his family and to be playing basketball a few hours before the murders just doesn’t ad up. Especially when their is no motive yet. He may have been invoved in some gang activity, or someone could have been after his mom (after all she goes after pedophiles) and threated him if he didn’t take take the rap. we just don’t know yet. It’s just really sad.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva STILL can’t get her gravie up!

    Man, they’re not going to wait until he gets to the pen to rip him a new asshole…they’re going to do that sh*t in Juvi (no pun intended!).

  • GiGi

    God Help us

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva STILL can’t get her gravie up!

    *thought

  • Rotex

    This is sad man! I pray God gives the family of the people dead, the heart to bare the loss.

  • Mona

    This is a super sad story. What would possess someone to do that?

  • Shante

    omg that is mad sad.

  • Virgo911

    Peace and prayers to Juvenile and his family.

  • Virgo911

    Peace and prayers to the other families as well.

  • Aoki Lee

    Horrible! I’m so sorry to learn this info, why isn’t the news in my area reporting THIS? They so concerned about that skeezoid Britney Spears’ & her ugly ass sister how come I just heard about Juvi’s family TODAY?????

    Also- Mental health in the asian & black community is SERIOUS!! I notice how many folks don’t undestand the importance of psychiatry. I wonder this young man displayed signs of mental instability he obviously suffered from some kind of break down to do all this to his mom & little sisters SAD!!!

  • Lady Architect

    its so sad to hear things like this. I really hope they give him life and those guys in jail get at him. who kills their own mom and sisters? let alone why kill in the first place?

  • Kigali

    I’m with another poster in that we should not jump to conclusions about this. I mean young black boys dont kill their mothers and their sisters.

    She was on the policy force. There could be some foul play.

    Much love for their whole family right now.

    When a someone (male/husband/father usually) kills his family, he usually kills himself too or suicide by cop. They are called “Family Annihilators” and they are usually white men. For a young black kid to do this is so so unusual. I’m suspending my judgement.

  • kigali

    Black boys dont usually do this. What he is accused of doing is called family annihilation. Its done by white men, married, and a father. They kill their whole family and then themselves of die from suicide by cop.

    For a young black man to do this is very unusual.

    The mother was on the police force. Police officers are known to be violent. Maybe it was a boyfriend or something.

    In any event we pray for justice to be served.

  • getyourhandouttamypocket

    This is so disgusting. Something is going on with our youth!

    GOD bless the families!

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    This same sort of killing is getting to be very popular with people killing their whole family and/or whomever is around them… what is this all about. Is it a matter of them hating the world and themselves and deciding to take some with them when they go???

    This is very disturbing… to say the least.

  • victory is mine

    this is a wicked wicked world we live in. God bless the family members who are left to mourn their loved ones.

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    This same sort of tragedy is happening all across our Country… I’ve been hearing similar cases on the new just about every week now…..

    How do we stop stuff like this from happening around us???

  • Obamatruthdotorg

    May their souls rest in peace. That’s just so sad!

  • FOXYCLEOPATRA

    SORRY, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS

    .

    .

    .

    .

    WHICH ONE IS IT NOW?

  • kiacato

    my prayers go out to him and his family .In the name of ALLAH.

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    It is a shame that a asshole have to come on the site, and this thread to get her rocks off, and try to put the issue/spotlight on her..TRASHYFOXYHO you are a sad case!

  • IsleZeus

    FOXYCLEOPATRA I agree with you totally. I’m sick of the gangsta lifestyl being glorified by the Black community, especially on a station call Black Entertainment Television. That si NOT Black entertainment… it’s Black Destruction.

  • Nia

    This is a SAD situation all around. Juvenile probably feels the hurt now but he had to be jailed to even do anything for her. After that, he had to be sued for a paternity test because he didnt claim her. He is a piece of sh*t too. He doesnt deserve to have his name mentioned in the same sentence as the little girl. And something had to be really wrong in that household because that boy has NO remorse. You can see it in his face and eyes. SAD.

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    People needs to quit fighting so much and just learn to love one another….

    Stop the violence!!!!

    :)

  • Shavon Denise

    That’s sooo sad. No one should have to bury their child. Yet, I have something to get off my chest regarding some of the comments:

    This has nothing to do with a “Gangsta” lifesytle. Gangster’s are loyal they wouldn’t kill their mother and sisters. Please, I get so tired of people trying to indirectly blame hiphop for heinous acts. We’re falling into the trap people! They want us to blame each other and blame our music. That’s BS. When a white kid kills his whole family he’s sick or troubled. No one says sh*t about an Al Pacino character or some white movie inspriring him to do it. But, when young black youth do it, we immediately dismiss what is going on in their heads and say the music or the society did it. We dont know what was going on in his life and what triggered him. Of course its not right, but dont blame ANYTHING but what was going on in his head.

  • Minougli

    (Sorry 4 my english, i’m french.. :)

    THIS IS SOMETHING!

    NOW THAT A RAPPEUR’S FAMILY IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THIS (SORRY FOR HIS DAUGHTER), I **REALLY** HOPE THEY WILL STOP RAPPING ABOUT : GUNS, HOW IT’S GOOD TO BE “GANGTA”, GUNS, POWER, HOW A “MAN” SHOULD BE “STRONG” (by strong he means… carry a GUN…), GUNS, POWER, GUNS, …

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    My prayers goes out to everyone involved and the fam.

  • Frog-a-licious

    Damn!!!! My prayers go out to the family. What the hell is the world coming too?

  • memchee

    OoohmyyyyyGod!

    This family is in my prayers.

    This young guy looks emotionally disconnected..he’s in my prayers as well.

  • Aem

    Death Penalty.

  • justme

    God bless Juvie’s family, and have mercy on the soul of this young man if he did it, he really has some issues! Lord help him please

    this is sooooo sad!

  • WTF & Minougli

    SERIOUSLY FOXY, I was kind of with you on the whole we need to wake up, but once you said you were Nigerian, I couldn’t hang with you. If you said almost anything else, I could say ok and not comment, BUT SERIOUSLY. Why are you on here? Shouldn’t you be scamming some unsuspecting person through his or her email? I do commend you though, it must be hard getting those “Friend I just need you to help me get some money because my husband is a political prisoner, blah, blah…I will give you 15% of our 40 million dollar fortune if u just help us out…blah blah”

    At Minougli, much respect for Cameroon, but BET is a farce. I don’t know anyone who watches it anymore. Personally I have a problem with how they will show degrading things (not to mention knock-off MTV shows) then during black history month we have to hear about Martin Luther King after watching Tyeshia shake her ass. WTF

  • Pistol Pete

    My Condolences goes out to everyone that is hurting from this STRANGE violent situation. R.I.P

    im not to sure about the son being the murderer.

  • boo boo

    #1. Juvie, did not have a relationship with this little girl until the courts forced him to.

    #2. the same garbaged he rapped about, probably influence that stupid negro which helped him to disregard any natural affection for his family. (some rappers glorify violence and sexual activity like they are animals.)

    #3. the same people who are saying they have prayers for Juvie, co-sign his rap and his ilk. (i.e.- 50 cent,lil wayne, baby, snoop dog,just to name a few.

    #4. y’all will get over it until the next tragic news happen.

  • Just My Opinion

    Foxycleopatra – she really is speaking truth – the rest just do not want to except this reality, and instead want to just rationalize – unreasonably explain away – showing a true lack of knowledge. Stupid. Until the acceptance of reality of these facts – that we are killing each other off, we will eventually as a race, a color, a people rid ourselves off the planet at our own hands. Anyone who wants to justify these horrible tragedies that continue to exist are truly living a hypocrites life. And those who wish us off the planet of the earth – well all they have to do is just watch us.

  • Weezy F

    Jesus-Christ! People giving birth to devils and think they actually give birth a child. Damn, i wonder where some people get their courage. Anyway, RIP to the family, God only knows why he allowed this to happen.

  • Kemmy

    I dont understand how someone has the heart to do something like that…that’s so wrong!!!

    R.i.P

  • Traydayz

    Pardon me but Obama was born in the US. You have to be to run for President of the US. That is why the govenator cannot run. GET INFORMED!

  • http://www.myspace.com/ckandyman23 kandyman

    Did think blk people did ish like that

  • TAY

    This is really sad!!I just would like to say rest in peace to them.. This is sad. They are with God now so theyre good!!!

    @TJ: This has nothing to do with culture. Was the young man who shot up VA tech of our culture..NO… Columbine..NO.. So lets think b4 speaking!

    Why is someone even given FoxyCleo the time of day. That idiot is obviously delusional. Some freaking NIGERIAN… On a post about a family of 3 dying and a young man possibly losing his life to prison and your speaking sexually.. you should take yourself to bed like you planned!!

  • TAY

    They need to put more details into the article as to how he is even guilty. I would love to know!

  • Minougli

    Ms. Sugar Walls..

    Just because it’s “gansta” in every corner of USA doesn’t mean that we have to “accept” that like that!! Don’t be stupid! It’s “THE REALITY”, and…what?? we should let it as it is?? You are the type of person who doesn’t like change! You say “turn your radio off, turn the tv off…” NOOO, just “CHANGE” the channel, open more BOOKS instead of TV, DIVERSIFY your sources of information!!

    And by the way : Some places in Africa are WAYYYY more “gansta” than Brooklyn! I KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!! These “Gansta” in USA, at least they have electricity, infrastructure, and others.., and for the most part they do bad things just to buy bigger car, bling bling, expensives clothes, … in Africa, most of them STEAL TO EAT! not to “eat better”, but JUST TO EAT!!!

  • Pistol Pete

    if ppl believe in God AND believe humans can rid an entire race of ppl off the face of the earth i gotta bridge in Alaska for you to buy.

    yea 3 black ppl were murdered but how many were born? thats how God gets down lose 1 birth 2

    blacks dont die we multiply!

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper Ms. Sugar Walls

    does

  • Grace

    Don’t waste your time replying Ms.Walls. I have a life. One post and I am out. Going to see Chante & Kenny Latimore.

  • Bob

    1st!

  • boo boo

    whatever, it’s too late for Juvi to try and have a relationship now with his precious baby daughter. I mourn for the family and the hateful violence that took the life of her and her family.

  • lovely and amazing

    From Malcolm X’s grandson to this young man, our young brothers are in a lot of pain, crying out, and taking lives of their own mothers, grandmothers, and sisters. So many of our young brothers are in need of tremendous healing.

    My sincerest condolences to Juvenile and the families.

    May these little angels rest peacefully in their mother’s arms in Heaven for all eternity.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @Just my Opinion

    It may be a crisis but it is not everything that we are. When was the last time you killed a black man. Is this any where near the sum of what we have offered this country. How many kind, successful, positive, motivated and ambitious Black people do you run into every day.

    What is truly ignorant is the psychology of allowing others to hold onto this image that this is all that we are. How does that fix the issue.

    Yes there is a crisis but we do have to acknowledge how we got here to change it. The violence will not stop until the conditions change. Especially since saying “EVERY ONE STOP THIS BEHAVIOR!” has been so effective so far.

    How do shape an animals behavior? Is it by saying STOP. No you alter his conditions. You reward him with things he wants for doing what you want him too. Well all people are animals whether we can rationalize that or not.

    You honestly can’t see there are outside forces working here? If you lock men with no other resources in a crowded plot of land with, alcohol, drugs, unhealthy foods and guns I think their life expectancy may just drop a bit.

    Then how about we broadcast images of footage from those crowded rooms to the world. Every one who can identify with the people in that room will be distracted and demotivate with continuous play. Every one else will feel the conditions are justified by the behavior. The images become your negativity generator.

    Eventually the people who are not in the crowded plot will find them selves there because the stereotype now justifies the conditions. This is science not coincidence.

    I guess Native American extinction wasn’t real either. Is it also coincidence that this is happening around the world and happens to be proportionate to the amount of control that western culture has to each geography. Why was aids so widespread in Africa?

    It is simply population control. We have to change the conditions to have success. No one is denying the crisis. However it is America’s crisis not just Black America’s.

  • SHERMAN B. Y.T.

    THE ANSWER TO THIS CRISIS IS FORCED STERILIZATION OF THE GREATE UNWASHED. THIS COUNTRY HAS ENDURED YOU PEOPLE’S SAVAGERY FOR FAR TOO LONG. IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT YOU AS A PEOPLE ARE ONE OF GOD’S GENETIC EXPERIMENTS THAT HAS GONE AWRY. WELL I SAY ENOUGH! IT’S TIME TO ENACT A NEW FINAL SOLUTION TO RID THIS ONCE PROUD AND PROSPEROUS COUNTRY OF THIS SOCIAL INFECTION. CULLING THE HERD!

  • WTF?!

    @ some comments here which are threadjacking this serious issue of a tragic death , by adding their own personal nonsense of “positions” & other sad stuff totally irrelevant and out of line here ?!

    Take that ignorance somewhere else , while others can contribute their condolences over here , thank you.

  • Ghost

    People would take the ignorance elsewhere, but when you have folks thinking this is cool or normal, you have folk that speak out about it.

    There will be more to this story before it’s all said and done. Don’t be shocked if that boy didn’t act alone and life insurance played a factor in this.

  • Deadbeat Daddy Assoc.

    Well at least there is one positive out of all this. Ol’ Juvie won’t have to pay anymore child support.

  • Just My Opinion

    Monotheistic Proof – I agree with you in part, and you certainly have some strong and realistic point of views. I imagine there are outside forces, but it is still up to us. We are not ignorant people, only if we decide to be. And it’s not just America’s crisis, it’s our own. We allow certain elements and forces to keep us just where those elements and forces want us to be. People as a society have to quit pointing fingers for the way our lives end up. There are examples of people who refused to let society, people, countries, forces to keep them down. It’s up to us individually to get up and go. As individuals we need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and go. I came from a background that we are use to hearing. I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, yet due to the encouragement of one person, refuse to live that stereo-type life, refuse. Sometimes my own people don’t know how to interact with me, until they get to know me. I do not deny my culture, but I will not live down to the expectations that “society” expects me too. Your points are certainly valid – just my thoughts.

  • Siren

    MY CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO THE FAMILY… BUT HONESTLY, JUVENILE PROBABLY OVER THERE TWO STEPPING. TALKING ABOUT “NO MO CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS FOR ME, TWEEDLE DEE”

  • rayray

    wow…this kid needs to ,not only go to the pen,butHE NEEDS TO GO TO ANGOLA PEN.(THE TRUE HELL)

    THEN AND ONLY THEN ,WILL THAT SMIRK ON HIS FACE DISAPEAR:(THE INMATES LOOK AT THIS GUY,AND THEY BREAK HIS TEETH OUT,SO HE CAN GIVE HEAD WITHOUT BITING!

    JUST WHEN HE THINKS HELL CAN GET NO WORSE…they fight over his learned oral skills and make him the value of a carton of cigs…then after that,make him mail his parents for money to keep his daddies happy.

    “the true meaning of owned”

    he can’t kill hisself,cause they won’t let him..

    BUT THIS IS JUST MY DREAM….CAUSE THEY’LL SEND SEND HIM TO ANGOLA!!!

    think

  • rayray

    typo

    they’ll never send him to angola

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @WTF?!

    This is not a shrine. As tragic as this is, I haven’t made it beyond the concept of this being a story on a gossip site. If this is some sort of cult ritual please fill me in on the rest of the details.

    It is not anyone’s goal to be disrespectful. Please know I will not be censored and I carry my views every where I go. Maybe you are being self servant by avoiding critical issues and using the families passing as excuse to keep your reality intact. Go find the line for free thought.

    @Sherm

    Good luck with the one man diabolical plan. You obviously came to the right venue to get support. I am pretty sure your genetic line is over your thoughts are a natural form of birth control.

  • http://www.growup.com GROW UP 4REAL

    Marquis de sade,

    I usually avoid arguing with people over their opinion, but WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM? Was that really your first thought when reading about the tragic murder of a woman and her daughters… that she is another failure as a mother because her children have different fathers????!!! You ignored that she was a law enforcement officer taking care of her kids alone. You assigned little blame to the fathers. You simply attacked the victim??!!

    I am well aware that people here have their hang-ups. Apparently you don’t like black women, but you choose to troll around a site with a black female audience. I don’t get why you would want to make yourself miserable like that. Why not spend your time interacting with people you like?

    This woman and two babies are D E A D you fool!!! This is NOT the time or place to play “Look at me! I’m controversial!”.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ GROWUP4REAL

    “You ignored that she was a law enforcement officer taking care of her kids alone.”

    …And that’s supposed to validate her? She was a 35 year old law enforcement officer who got knocked up by a damn rapper! Does that sound like a responsible mother? I just love it how you monkeys like to gloss over these professional/irresponsible hoodrats and their propensity to have all these babies without a strong father figure in the home. Her piss poor decisions in life was in all probability a contributing factor in her and her daughters premature demise.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @Just My Opinion

    It’s good to here such a positive story. It’s a shame this doesn’t get broadcasted more often. I agree with you on many levels change is always personal. And as a race we have to be motivated to do so.

    However I think America may have some incentive to help. You can’t tear down pockets of the population in a integrated society. I remember reading that because of the economic disparity between the two groups, white South Africans were putting land mines in their front yards and electrical fences up to keep the impoverished Black South Africans from robbing and killing them. There were virtually prisoners in their own home.

    Imagine where we would be as a country if all that negative energy designed to win this thing called race was put towards progress. Oh well…

    I at least hope that I can have that same impact your mentor had on my god sons. There father is omniscient most of the time. I want to arm them mentally for what’s to come. One child at a time is great but I do hope that we find away to get to kids and families on a larger scale.

  • pais from france

    My condolences go out to the family .We proud to be African

  • deesac

    this is really said my mom is getting there up in age and I know one day I will be face with losing her I don’t know where I’m gonna go from there we been threw alot together with her being only 20yrs my senior and when no one else cared moms was always there for me. This kid is gonna have a rough time in prison as a convict how can anyone respect someone that has no love for there own mother I hope he takes vaseline with him on his trip to his new home

  • ann

    Never give up you dreams and never stop dreaming and believing in mmiracles!

    Both will come ture!

    meetingrich.com will give you a successful avenue to find you ture lov!

  • yearoftherat

    that mugshot provokes me. He looks very proud of himself. Will see how thugged out he feels when he has to be bubbas butt boy in prison for the rest of his life. Serves him right.

  • http://www.growup.com GROW UP 4REAL

    By the way, Marquis de Sade, I am well aware you are white. No black person uses the term “monkey” to insult other blacks. Even so, my question is still valid. What do you get from this?

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @deesac

    Mothers are precious. If not for mine I know that I wouldn’t have made it past 18. Not taking anything away from my father but a mother’s love is the foundation.

    If he did it, I hope the vaseline runs out!

  • yearoftherat

    *waiting for all the brainwashed ignorant hypocritical christian fundementalist’s to blame the dead mother for what happend beacuse she had children out of wedlock*

  • wonkwonk

    Minougli, in America “black” is just another term for “afro-american”. Yeah, you are black in a larger sense, but you arent black american and that is what the american month is about.

  • sho nuff da stuff

    Damn shame what that kid did to his family…..may God’s blessings be with their family….RIP to the Mom & her daughters!

  • Comeonyall

    That is awful. I feel so bad. What is this world coming too? It is slowly coming to an end! I swear its like were losing our children everyday. :’(. God please help us! It’s in your hands. You know whats best. I will be praying for both of the families. Please people talk to your children. You Just never know, just never know!

    Be safe & God Bless each and every one…..:’(

  • http://yahoo Big Slimm

    Man…….that dude need to get the business in there. Juvie, I got prayers for you man all the way from Kuwait, man……….. Young kids these days, don’t know if they are coming or going, too much for me to handle, I tell you that Round.

  • Comeonyall

    Can someone please tell me BTW mean?

    Thanks :)

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ Comeonyall

    BTW = BY THE WAY

  • Comeonyall

    @ Marquis de Sade

    Thanks :)

  • http://www.selectappraisalonline.com Kimmie in SoCal

    I wish that I could say I am shocked. But the truth is that I live in Los Angeles, and everyday on the news there are family masacres, involving children. Usually, fathers but occasionally sons, flipping out and killing the entire family, including small children. All different ethnic groups are now being represented in this growing trend.

    To see a 17 year old killed a 4 year old, makes me only be able to say that these must truly be the last days, because everyday the behavior displayed all over the world, toward one another just becomes worse and worse. Children killing other children, sexual predators raping small children, one woman leaving her 6 kids to go to Nigeria for a month, with no food, water, or supervision. This list goes on and on of the news stories, and each one becomes worse than the last.

    There seems to be no correlation to race, because sin touches all races, and no race is immune to it. I pray for the souls of the people lost that day, and I pray that heaven will be there home. Because the earth is sadly becoming a place not fit to live on anymore.

  • WTF?!

    Ghost & Monotheistic Proof , thanks for your responses

    @ Monotheistic Proof,

    Yes , i know this not a shrine , but come on … even though this is a gossip-site , in a situation like this some people could at least bring up the decency to focus and pay respect to this tragic case , instead of enlighten us with their personal nonsense.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^I agree 100%

    In this day and age, our youth need to see positive images of our people to give them hope that we can achieve anything that we put our minds to. With so many negative images of our people portryaed in the media, they need to witness this history so they can realize that all of our stories don’t have the same ending. Here we have a presidential candidate that people of all nationalities are supporting and rallying behind…and he happens to not only be a man of color, but he comes from a single parent home. As long as I have been of voting age, there have only been two families in the white house. Its time for a change, and its time for us as a people to put our differences aside and understand that it takes a village to raise a child! Through collective effort we can show our young people that thier futures are bright and NOTHING is beyond their reach!!!

    OBAMA 2008!

  • LeeLee

    This “FOXYCLEOPATRA” is a trip on here…and everyone is making her a star. The only thing I remember her saying is her Great grand papi was white…and…I don’t care if you have white, pink or green blood. With an ounce of black blood…you are a “Nigger”…not black person. You have proven to us all on this board that “Niggers” come in all mixtures….Ignorant!!!!

  • Just My Opinion

    Not all black men and women are suffering from mental illness or depression. Some individuals who live a life of violence are just down right evil, cruel. There is no excuss for this behavior. There is certainly no excuse for the murder he committed. If anyone should be blamed, it’s the one who committed the act. It’s time for people to take responsibility instead of throwing excuses around like a deck of cards, “oh the system has let me down, oh I have mental illness, oh I can’t get a job you-all, man, oh my daddy left me when I was 10 months old”, please. Most know right from wrong. We are not ignorant people, please.

  • Cat Woman

    That’s terrible. I always liked Juvenile. I’m sorry this happened to him. I would feel bad if this had happened to anyone. I pray that he can recover from this as quickly as possible.

  • JaliliMaster

    That said, if Juvi is/was in fact a deadbeat, I hope his guilt eats him to his very core. Twist it as much as you want but parents who abandone their kids, especially for such flimsy reasons, deserve no sypathy in my book.

    However, if he was a committed parent, then my sympathies go out to him as well as the rest of the family. As for the boy, ….no words.

    And to those refusing to believe that he could have done it, based solely on your opinion that it is a ‘white man kind of thing to do’, I say shut the hell up and go find some fuciking COMMON SENSE!

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @Lovely and Amazing

    I find your comments refreshing and I continue to learn from you. It’s great to come to a site like this and find diamonds amongst the ashes. You care about where we are headed as a people and as country. Your compassionate voice today gave me a balanced perspective. It also made me rethink my anger towards this defendant.

    @Jalilimaster

    Please know that your insight has also been valuable and is appreciated. Every thing you said about what needs to happen is so on point. The only thing I would add is we have ALL been portrayed in away that it is less then accurate or flattering.

    I could tell you stories of what my high school showed us when we learned from about Africa. How they listed the great accomplishments of every other continent, and stated Africa was the dark continent that needed our help. They completely neglected the great powers of Egypt, Mali, Nigeria, Ghana, Timbuktu, Nubia etc. You would be outraged at what they showed us as a representation of African history.

    Point is because we do not control the media it is not always easy to get the right images out there. There are issues everywhere. Just like any organization some are related to the people others are related to the organizational strategy. The current strategy seems to be every man for himself.

    I also agree performance is definitely the ultimate measuring stick.

  • Trish

    MY HEART GOES OUT TO JUVI. KEEP YA HEAD UP! TO THE REST OF YOU GUYS NEVER ARUGE WITH AN IDOIT IT IS A WAST OF TIME CUZ THEY ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO AGREE TO DISAGREE. WE ARE ALL INTITLE TO OUR ON OPINIONS. EVEN IF THE DONT MAKE ANY SENSE LOL! DONT LET PEOPLE TAKE YOU THERE. WE ARE A BEAUTIFUL RACE OF STRONG PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT ANY ONE SAYS. THE FOCUS HERE IN OPINION SHOULD BE ON THE LOST ON LIFE AND THAT IS ALL.

  • WTF?!

    I never ever made a request for silence. It’s a good thing that the underlying problem of this case can be discussed here. A female and her kids landed in a situation which got out of hand which costed her daughters and her life , but then she gets a backstabbing blame that she is a “hoodrat” for landing in this situation ?! … yeah okay , if that’s the way to motivate people in order for them to prevent situations like this , then go ahead. I haven’t been woken up out of an utopian sleep with rose-colored glasses on where everthing is “happy-everly-after”… just have read stories about this too often … it’s not that i’m unaware of what is happening in the world which is what’s been indicated here. In my previous messages , i also might not have directly expressed my condolences towards the living families , but nevertheless that’s what i meant after all with those posts , and hope there will be improvement and better guidance for new generations from which some might get lost on a destructional path of their lives.That’s what i genuinly and sincerely mean , whether if that’s questioned or not.

  • http://www.growup.com GROW UP 4REAL

    Marquis de Sade,

    In other words, you attacking a murder victim that you don’t know simply because she is a “wretched” black woman? Sorry, love. You sound like an immature neo-nazi getting his rocks off behind his computer where it is safe. Which is how you guys do it now that the swasticas and hoods aren’t as fashionable.

    At least you admit you have NOTHING better to do than post comments to rile people up.

    You need some friends and some self-esteem desperately. Try and find a friend to spend this nice Sunday afternoon with. Take care.

    Again, my heart goes out to the family of the victims. They are in my thoughts and prayers.

  • WTF?!

    “Quote: …And that’s supposed to validate her? She was a 35 year old law enforcement officer who got knocked up by a damn rapper! Does that sound like a responsible mother? I just love it how you monkeys like to gloss over these professional/irresponsible hoodrats and their propensity to have all these babies without a strong father figure in the home. Her piss poor decisions in life was in all probability a contributing factor in her and her daughters premature demise.”

    Yes girls and ladies , listen good & please never date a “damn rapper” , because you’ll turn out to be an irresponsible “hoodrat” … ( yeah , that sounds about right , geeeeez ).

    Fathers abandoning their wife/girlfriend & kids happens in all societies you know. And besides that , we as outsiders haven’t always insight in the personal situation concerning the issue , in order to state such a prejudgemental opinion.

  • WTF?!
  • WTF?!

    Whatever rox your sox off Marquis.

    Don’t forget to sign-up http://www.ihavenolife.com

  • WTF?!

    Ms. Sugar Walls , that’s exactly what i said in a previous post. If you read that post again , then the first part is a “quote”, and the second part is my view on that quote which started with an ironic sentence , and furtemore explained that we can’t always have insight in the situation. That’s all.

  • WTF?!

    Good for you. That’s my choice as well.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    Regardless if he was taking care of his child or not…that’s his burden! The REAL problem is we’ve become so desensitized that some of us can’t show humility! A whole family was lost due to violence! Imagine how many lives are affected because of this senseless act? I can’t fathom what would have caused this young man to commit such a heinous act? So what she was poor or made poor choices-that doesn’t justify anything.

    It is clear that we know how to identify the hell out of a problem, but what about solutions? Stop looking at this as ‘somebody elses problem’ Violence plagues all communities, especially ours.

    My prayers go out to this family.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Monotheistic Proof

    It was actually your comments that put a lot in perspective for me. Thank you for your kind recognition and appreciation, it is mutual. I know I am not the only one who looks for your posts because you always offer something to learn and evolve on.

    Peace friend.

  • Whatchaknoaboutdat?

    That kids conscience is going to whoop his ass for the rest of his life! He is going to wish that he were dead just thinking about his mother and his 2 sisters… that day is going to haunt his soul when he realizes what he’s done.

    poor kid… he made a bad decision.

    :(

  • lovely and amazing

    I feel that the child support system is set up to the disadvantage of fathers, without any regard for the father’s choice, role, or importance.

    The child support system is an extention of the welfare system which thrives on the government replacing, demonizing, and atm-fying fathers, especially fathers with brown skin in America.

    Support of a child is a family matter.

    If a woman chooses to have unprotected sex knowingly with a man who is: 1) not her husband or at the very least longterm committed partner on the same page regarding procreating together, 2) does not love her, 3) is incapable of taking care of himself let alone a rear a child 4) without education or job prospects 5) explicity clear on not wanting to be a father or husband to her, and lastly and most importantly 6) is incapable of taking care of herself as a single woman let alone a rear a child, then the sister does bear some responsibility and penance for her choices.

    But to use the government to force a familial image, appearnce, and connection where there was never one legally or emotionally to begin with is a punk think thing to do.

    The more honorable thing for a woman who has chosen a feeble foundation to bring and raise a child in this world is to rise up, educate herself, take a free job skills class, and work hard at maintaining employment and childcare.

    Not spend every waking minute hating and chasing a man she fully knew was not committed nor family planning with her and using the government as a weapon for retribution for their own choices.

    Then sisters give the children the brother’s last name as if to infer or force an acknowlegment.

    By the way, I am pro responsibility, self-respect, and dignity.

    I wish sisters wouldn’t by into that white liberal free love free spirit crap. They talk that mess and then take their no teeth trailer park asses down to city hall and get married. Of course there are exceptions but don’t buy their free love and free spirit hype as your option. We don’t have the luxury to act like hethens.

    Sometimes our brothers are not able to express such feelings without rage, justified or not.

    This is what my husband will teach our daughter and son when they come of age for this conversation.

    Just my two cents for all its worth.

    Mr. & Mrs. Barack Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can, change our world!

  • Misty Knight

    Enters thread…witnesses the mind numbing ignorance…

    Sighs****

    one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink…..regardless of this womans lifestyle, the black American mentality, and BET’s programming selections (all of which are subjects that I have no idea how they relate to the story) its just pains me to see that children are always the victims getting hurt in the crossfire..imo its a matter of mental health and lack therof in this case, whenever a child kills another child I think it warrants a little more investigation into the murderers mental state and how it got to that point..its just very disturbing..regardless of race

    my heart goes out to those children

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Misty Knight

    imo its a matter of mental health and lack therof in this case, whenever a child kills another child I think it warrants a little more investigation into the murderers mental state and how it got to that point..its just very disturbing..regardless of race my heart goes out to those children.

    ———————————————-

    co-sign.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    Support of a child is a family matter.

    If a woman chooses to have unprotected sex knowingly with a man who is…

    What about the choices of men? I get tired of everyone always talking about choices that women make-sometimes men leave relationships. My best friend is going through a divorce now with a man who is educated, earns a decent living and they were married for four years. Now she is forced to go before the courts to get him to act responsibly because he hasn’t chosen to do so on his own. There are many cases like this one.

    It is a family matter, and although it may sound idealistic…we have to view our communities as a family as well. Of course there is a huge issue with mental health in this instance, but anyone who commits senseless violence has a mental issue.

    @Misty-the black mentality has everything to do with this issue-from the responses I’ve seen, most bloggers here are African American and so was the family related to this incident. Therefore we need to look at our own families,communities for the answers. Violence in our communities is leading cause of “our” mortality rate.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ GBH

    The issue isn’t married women, it’s women who makes irresponsible decisions by having babies out of wedlock with men that they (in all probability) didn’t know that well to begin with.

    As far as your friend is concerned, how old were they when they got married? In most cases, the signs of immaturity were probably there, but she chose to ignore them, hoping that he would change.

    …And last, but not least, who has to carry that baby around for nine months? Who ultimately makes the decision to carry said baby to term, rather the man wants to bare the burden of fatherhood or not?

    Whether you women want to own up to it or not, you pretty much control the situation when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    ^^^^what a cop-out

    Where is your responsibility? And so many men wonder why women have a hard time trustiing them to lead their households. Stand up and be responsible for your children-both men and women equally. Be the provider you are supposed to be. Women don’t impregnate themselves. men have just as much choice regarding giving life as women do (in the majority of cases)

  • Misty Knight

    @GBH

    I have to disagree, just beacuse the killer was black does not mean that this act is a reflection on the black community, this nations most disgusting and notorious killers Gasey, Damer, Bundy, the BTK killer all were white..however the white community does not look at them as say “wow whats going on in our communities!” Last tiem I checked I have been black all my life and if you were to take everyones reaction into account most found it shocking, so obviuosly this is not the norm for most of us..again to me this is about mental health just like the killings at NIU, and all the other school shootings which are perdominatly whites..does the white community perpetuate those actions with thier culture as well? again when a child kills another child especially thier parents and younger siblings I think it is a little more complex and the issues a little more intimate than just pointing the finger at the “black mentality” and even with that Ive never witnessed anyone encouraging killing youre mother and sisters…sorry its just not that simple..now the Dunbar Village incident, that maybe illustrates dysfunction at its best…but even with that I just cant imagine how a child could do such things,

  • lovely and amazing

    @ GBH

    Sometimes the “save the marriage” or the “keep the husband” baby doesn’t save a troubled marriage or keep the husband whose heart is just not in the marriage any longer. There are always red flags before a troubled marriage reaches divorce court. Now, pregnant in divorce court, there must have been signs and clearly the baby was created in the midst of a troubled marriage. Still no excuse for sister to not stand on her own two feet and be responsible for her decisions. Painful as this may sound.

    We have got to stop understimating our female intuition and playing victim at convenience. We know the differnce between loving or angry sex and we certainly know the difference between intended and planned procreation and self-serving procreation. Lets not insult our own female intelligence.

    ————————————————

    Marquis de Sade @ GBH

    The issue isn’t married women, it’s women who makes irresponsible decisions by having babies out of wedlock with men that they (in all probability) didn’t know that well to begin with.

    As far as your friend is concerned, how old were they when they got married? In most cases, the signs of immaturity were probably there, but she chose to ignore them, hoping that he would change.

    …And last, but not least, who has to carry that baby around for nine months? Who ultimately makes the decision to carry said baby to term, rather the man wants to bare the burden of fatherhood or not?

    Whether you women want to own up to it or not, you pretty much control the situation when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

    ————————————————

    I don’t agree with all of your posts but I certanly co-sign on this one.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    Im sorry, but I still don’t believe that the single mother should have to bear all responsibility for a life that two created. Clearly men have to be held accountable as well. We all make regrettable decisions-its not fair for the woman to always be the one left holding the bag. Then she is also blamed when she has to work hard to provide for her family and is not able to be there when she is needed most.

    The reason why I go back to our mentality is because its a sad cycle. Many young women make bad choices in men because they never knew their own fathers, or were not exposed to positive male role models. Women are intelligent and resourceful, but we can’t continue to struggle to be both mommy and daddy. Even if the relationship doesn’t work out, am i worng to assume that a father should still be there for his child?

    We don’t know the dynamics of this particular situation, but what is clear is that this young man was being raised by his “single mother”-and yes he has mental issues…but as I stated, people who are senselessly violent usually do.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ GHB

    Then i suggest that you counsel these young black women to don’t live their lives as “PRE-MEDITATED VICTIMS”.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    @misty

    I am not trying to say that this incident is a reflection on the black community…the point is we have to identify the problems that inflict our communities (ie violence) and come up with solutions on how we can change our fate. yes, violence and crime are present amongst all people worldwide, I am simply addressing our communtiy because bloggers here are predominantly black.

  • GBH…Obama 2008!

    @marquis

    out of curiosity…what-if any part do you think men play in parenthood? Do you believe men have some sort of option? If women are the pre-meditated victims, then what does that make men?

  • lovely and amazing

    Even if the relationship doesn’t work out, am i worng to assume that a father should still be there for his child?

    _______________________________________________

    ASSUME is the key word here. Yes, single women who choose to have a child out of wedlock or women in troubled marriages who choose to get pregnant during a troubled marriage should not ASSUME anything other than their own committment and capability to care for their unborn child.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ GHB

    I reiterate GHB. We as men don’t get pregnant. Women do…And since women carry the responsibility of child birth, logically it would be in their best interest to make sure it’s with someone that they’re not only married to, but shares their values and philosophy regarding shared parenthood. It’s not rocket science, it’s good ol’ fashioned common sense. Just because you women meets some stud at the club and after exchanging a few drunken pleasantries resulting in unprotected sex, doesn’t mean that said stud is willing to stick around to play husband/father…Especially if said stud is barely employed, undereducated with the earning potential of a McDonald’s french fry cook. There are over 13 forms of birth control for the woman and only two for men: Abstinance or the Condom. Ironically the condom is the least effective contraceptive on the market, due to breakage, slippage or leaking, and all the feminist logic in the world is not going to change that reality.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Marquis de Sade

    Speak.

    @ Sisters

    Do you want brothers to tell you the truth or what you want to hear or what you want to be true? Here you have the truth and it’s not debatable don’t say oh he doesn’t really mean that and get pregnant anyway. If you do that, then that baby is your baby.

    I’m so grateful my husband and I know the truth to pass on to our daughter and son.

    Sisters, stop the nonsense cycle of denial, victim pathology, and passive-agressive entrapment please. There are children’s lives at stake!

  • lovely and amazing

    Got lunches to pack and hubby’s clothes to lay out for tomorrow morning. Good night good people. Positive dialogue is step in the right direction.

  • STOP PLAYING

    Muslim vs non Muslim , African vs African American,light skin vs dark skin, nappy vs straight……NEGRO PLEASE!!! are you serious? LOL

  • lovely and amazing

    Why do you think the government pushes abortion, welfare, and child support instead of self respect accountibility and empowerment? Because victim pathology is big business and if sisters got some sense a lot of people would lose a lot of money.

    Abortion costs money.

    Mothers depressed on welfare spend not save.

    Child Support is an industry thrilled with the poor procreation choices of irresponsible women.

    Check in after breakfast.

  • bIG mOMMA

    I just want to say that your family is in my prayers

  • NIkki

    I agree with most of what Ms Cleopatra (sp) has said. African American is a political term drummed up by Americans (in general) who feed into this socioeconomic bs of racism and racial classification- the very foundation of what America is. I am black but I sure as hell am not “African American”. And I am not Black American either – which is the most logical term to use when trying to differentiate among Africans, Blacks, and American Blacks. Sorry, having the title “African” in your racial classification does not make you an African. The blacks born in America are American first and foremost – just like any other culture or colour represented in the US, and need to identify as such and stop trying to grasp unto something that doesn’t exist for you. Africans or Afrikans (white) are people born of the continent of Africa – with their subsidiaries. Blacks represent the people outside of America whether it be caribbean black, latin blacks etc, (who unfortunately get clumped in with the “African American” majority here, and lastly Black Americans are just that, Black Americans….

    In regards to the death of the woman and her 2 daughters, it is a tragedy, but isn’t the first, nor will it be the last. Unfortunately such is life.

    “Kompton’s Kutie” stay in school, and if you’ve already finished, i suggest going back.

  • JAD

    RIP to the victims and I will keep them in my prayers.

  • Shawn08

    Rest in peace to all who have lost their lives. Let the lord judge, for he is fair. Our judgments against others do not count. They only make us look hateful.

  • Ho Sit Down!!!

    The Bear

    rofl @ Foxy Cleo “AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY BUT A COUNTRY”….

    Ok everybody lets say it in unison!!!:

    HOE SIT DOWN!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! i like that it was funny!!!

  • Marquis de Sade

    …And to think, The Bear fancies himself intelligent. Go figure.

  • http://www.lovingmeans@aol.com 1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals! is waiting for April 5th!!!

    Why is someone in here sounding just like Big Jim????

  • http://www.stdpal.com herpesdatingsite

    Anyone here know his screen name on http://www.stdpal.com ? One of his fans found his profile on this herpes dating site, and there are some other athlete profile on it

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    When talking about the horrible decisions we as men and women are making these days it may (or may not) be valuable to enlist the help of Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs.

    The concept of the hierarchy is based on the successful maturation of a person from the start to the finish of their life.

    The model has to do with there being five levels of focus that we go through as people in our personal evolution (or maturity.)

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    The Levels of the hierarchy are depicted below:

    (Top) Self-actualization

    personal growth and fulfillment

    Esteem needs

    achievement, status, responsibility, reputation

    Belongingness and Love needs

    family, affection, relationships, work group, etc.

    Safety needs

    protection, security, order, law, limits, stability, etc.

    (Bottom) Biological and Physiological needs

    basic life needs – air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep, etc.

    They are normally depicted as a triangle at the bottom of the base are physical needs, and eventually coming to a point is self actualization.

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    t’s my belief that people go up and down this depending on impactful events in their lives. So the pyramid is more like a stairway with trap doors but no elevators.

    However the point I am making is when picking a partner many of us seem to be fixated in the basic life needs category (food, shelter, sex, drink, warmth etc.).

    However if we were really thinking long-term and about building strong families we should be selecting partners based on tier 2′s Safety needs (protection, security, order, law, limits, stability).

    This creates the path way to family focus and love, which allows you to focus on status. The hierarchy has to be addressed in order you can’t go from the bottom to the top.

    There is just no way for us to focus on basic life needs and reach family and stability. We have to first mature to level where security takes precedent over our physical needs.

    Monotheistic Proof

  • lovely and amazing

    OBAMA 2008!

    YES WE MUST!

  • http://Lycos Monotheistic Proof

    @Lovely and Amazing

    I am feeling very good today about Obama’s chances despite all the distractions and controversy created by the Clinton’s new campaign strategist. I hear also that she has a history of being tied to scandal and has destroyed evidence incriminating one of the Clinton’s in the past. Do you know anything of this?

    I also like the way you tied in the ways a racist strategy can destroy us at each level of the hierarchy of needs. This is exactly where I wanted to go next.

    I see the most visible as the basic needs stage. You take away a man’s basic resources, you take away his ability to move up the hierarchy.

    When fixated at the basic needs stage, he or she never reaches security, can’t focus on relationships and family (hence the family breakdown), You can’t build a healthy esteem and can’t become self actualized, give back to the community, or achieve spiritual greatness.

    Some may say well what about those who appear to be getting their basic needs met and still can’t move up the hierarchy… Well in my opinion it’s relative… Our materialistic society has expanded the base of our basic needs dramatically.

    So now many of us must have a certain level of shelter, a certain level of food, a perfect sex partner a specific car etc to feel like aur basic needs have been met. No to mention now it is becoming a luxury to have clean water and air.

    As the culture breaks down it expands our needs for safety and security and so forth.

    I think this is connected to the state of America not just the state of Black people or the lingering racist agenda.

    Greed is pricing the American people right out of self actualization, self esteem, family stability, and even safety. We are taking steps back as a civilization and possibly retarding societal evolution.

    I believe you are so right when it comes to race and poverty the hurdles become the size of the olympic high jump.

    If we change our focus, we can change ourselves, if we can change ourselves we can change America, if we can change America we can change the world!

    Go Obama!!

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Monotheistic Proof

    I share your sentiment regarding Obama today. I feel positive and strong in our belief and capability to change America and our world.

    I will not reveal who I am. On behalf of my family (my husband and parents have valued your posts as well), we thank you for the kind metaphysical kinship you have extended to me on this “gossip site”.

    You’re wisdom has restored a lost part of my spirit and voice and I am humbled and grateful, we all are.

    Today I am paying forward about $1000 worth of my children’s outgrown clothing to one African-American single mother and one Hispanic single mother who came here with one bag of clothes for herslf and her child.

    And I don’t pay forward condescending charity. I pay forward boutique brand freshly laundered gifts honoring the respect and dignity of the recipient.

    People of all colors, we can all do what we can.

    Obama 2008-2016!!

    Yes We Absolutely Can!

  • Domenique

    My Cousin was also gun down in Atlanta 2/25/08 by some scary punks. RIP Mark Anthoney Martin Jr. and RIP to Juve’s Daughter. This killing has to STOP!!!

  • antoinelc

    wow

  • MarryAnn

    This guy is a stupid ass. holy.
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