damn…

Lil Wayne better write a will soon

I don’t think Mechelle is going to deny his children nor his mother its just that by law the two previous sons born out of wedlock will have to establish parentage and Mechelle doesn’t have guardianship of those sons so she cannot act as their agent.

What is so unique about their situation is that not one word of their maternal parentage can be found on the internet or at least I haven’t found anything that names their mother(s), which I find real strange.

Damn… I bet all Steve’s jump offs gone be on the way to beat her ass.

I doubt if she will do them like that.. she will probably be fair..maybe…I guess…

why do these men always have outside kids,he might have more we dont know about,sure these kids will not be left out,cant believe this man didnt have a will,all that money and you dont have a will,people need to think about these things

I feel there is more to this story and one day it will come out, it just doesnt sit right with me the whole murder suicide.

got art?

(( * )) ^ (( * ))

…hasn’t she had to accept a mass of humility in the last week?

Yes she has!

From what I’ve heard from posters like yourself, I have no doubt that she will do the right thing by his other children.

God bless Mrs. McNair, her children, and all those involved in this horrible situation.

I feel really bad for her and the kids. He embarrassesd the hell out of them with his death.

Hell hath no woman, but he should saw to this himself to make sure these boys were provided for. I believe that she will see that these boys have lost their father too and do the right thing by them.

@white male:

You are SO right!! I don’t think that he will live that long with the way he is going anyways.

@ KAMI MJ did have a will where have you been

OMG…Most of you must be very young cause you have not experience life yet. It would be nice if Mrs. McNair continued the child support for the other 2 but my guess is she won’t. Most women (and men)don’t give a damn bout outside children unless they are the primary caretaker. That is why it’s very irresponsible for parents not to have wills when you have children with someone other than your spouse.

I think she’ll come through for the other children. I think the woman needs time to get everything situated, that’s all. Plus–she probably doesn’t want to put all her shyt on blast.

She’s been quiet this long. What makes me think she won’t continue taking the high road?

Keep ya head up girl and remember to do what’s right. The kids are not at fault here.

it doesnt matter shes only entitled to 1/3 of the estate and the other 2/3 will be for his children so all the money and the property will be split as such, the children will get 2/3 put in a trust fund until they reach 18 then any property is only 1/3 hers since there was no will leaving her everything she doesnt get everything because he has kids..thats so the parents wont spend everything and leave the kids nothing..

and I want to know the percentage of whites that have wills to the number of blacks and the only reason white folks have wills is so they can cut their kids out and leave all their sh-t to their dogs and cats..

@Hard Candy:

Yeah…..you’re right. Maybe his wasnt thorough enough to make things black and white. You know, made clear.

These things are important, and should be taken seriously. Especially if you are famous and have some sort of wealth.

Wouldnt you rest easy knowing that your loved ones would be taken care of and you had a part in making that happen as opposed to letting someone delegate who gets what?

^^^^This would be hilarious if it wasn’t so damned true.

The reality is that most people die intestate and the court provides for the children, regardless of whether they are born within the bounds of matrimony or not. As long as McNair acknowledged and held out the children as his, they will be provided for. She may be the executor of his estate but she will not be allowed (even if she wanted to, which I doubt) to cut his children out.

I don’t know this woman and wont even pretend to, but I am so sorry that she has to endure any more of this.

Dayum!!!
those kids will be covered though…no doubt…

I don’t know this woman or what her intentions will be, so why is everyone so sure that she will “do the right thing” by the other children? Do you all know this woman? I mean, yes indeed, it would be wonderful, and very IDEALISTIC if she did make sure his other children were covered…but who knows for sure??? Just hope for the best, but don’t be so surprised or shocked if things don’t go as innocently predicted.

@Clos…….I wanna know what state you live in cause your figures are off. With no will the wife gets everything. There is no 1/3 for children or none of that shit. She get 100%. She would not even be forced to pay for her childrens college education if she doesn’t want to.

Do you know how many men have totally screwed over their 1st family by not having wills & the new young tenderoni get everything. I remember Lou Raws 32yrs old white wife calling his daughter after he died & bragged about getting everything cause he did not leave a will. His daughter put the message on the internet for everyone to hear. For all you babymamas who think a piece of paper don’t mean shit……pleasssse!

OMG…Most of you must be very young cause you have not experience life yet. It would be nice if Mrs. McNair continued the child support for the other 2 but my guess is she won’t. Most women (and men)don’t give a damn bout outside children unless they are the primary caretaker. That is why it’s very irresponsible for parents not to have wills when you have children with someone other than your spouse.

********cosign!…some of these people have to be under 21. Even if she pay for their education, she is not about to break them off like her on children.

Black people are probably going to get mad at me, or make excuses about this, but I’m going to say it anyway:

An easy way to avoid these problems (at least in the Black community) is to stop having kids out of wedlock. Not only is it tacky to be only a “baby mama/daddy” as opposed to a husband or wife, it causes a lot of legal drama (child support, anyone?) for the parents and the kids when one of the parents dies.

Maybe we should started being more avid practictioners of contraception, or dare I say, abstinence until we can handle procreating?

The Bear is right.

Steve’s children will get a something. the wife has no control over that.

everything will be split between the wife and the kids. baby mothers not included.

and whoever said Lil Wayne should make a will is dead on

@ Somer
I wss thinking the same thing! These people must havent’t experienced the hasrh realitites of the world. “Its a dog eat dog world” aint come from no where.

No I am not young. I am a person who is in the know. Read my username. She will support his kids. No they may not get as much as hers, as they weren’t when he was even alive, but they will be taken care of. Stop reading things that aren’t there. No one said the other kids will get more or the same.

@ IntheKnow

Apparently you don’t know as much as you think you do. Since he died without a will his wife cannot legally give the kids he had with her a larger share of his assets than the outside kids. If she tries that they’ll be able to stop her in court. Hopefully they’ll have enough sense to hire lawyers to protect their interests. But regardless, the judge will likely keep a close eye on that detail anyway.

The Bear, apparently you’re still reading stuff that isn’t there. Between what she will get and HER kids will get COMBINED will be more than what his other two kids will have. Is hat clear enough for you?

Unfortunatley, I have a very close friend who is a deceased professional athlete who left no will as well. Coincidentally, his selfish wife’s name was Michelle as well. Like Mr McNair, had 2 boys from previous relationships who may as well not have existed in the eyes of this woman.
No photographs at the funeral, although his child with her was plastered all over the place, no mention of the boys in interviews or in any dealings regarding his life. Is that love? How DARE they say they love these men but refuse to accept their bloodlines….
Its not only sad but pathetic that these women are so painfully insecure with themselves that they punish these innocent heirs to thier father’s legacy.

Just to break it down to you…If his estate is worth $60 mil. She’ll likely get $20 mil, plus $10 mil apiece for each of her sons, which is a combined total of $40 mil for their household…leaving the other two with only $10 mil apiece, combined total of $20 mil… I don’t know how to explain any easier than that.

Another excerpt:

Mechelle McNair’s Nashville attorney, David Callahan, said Thursday she’s determining Steve McNair’s net worth. A Davidson County probate court judge granted the widow 60 days to complete that process in response to an emergency petition. In the meantime, she received the right to control the estate.

“I am sure that in due course there will be a discussion with everyone who has an interest in the estate,” Callahan said. “At this point, there has not been any formal discussion.”

The probate court filing says Mechelle McNair and sons Tyler, 11, and Trenton, 6, are heirs, but she can’t confirm whether her husband’s two eldest sons are actually his.

and I want to know the percentage of whites that have wills to the number of blacks and the only reason white folks have wills is so they can cut their kids out and leave all their sh-t to their dogs and cats..

@CLOS

MADD IGNORANT

@The Bear

Executors and Executrix execute wills. Administrators and Administratrix administer estates.

In NC, for example, children born outside of the marriage will take a portion of the estate if they have been legitimized. (by marriage or by law… if he was only paying child support without any legal obligation, then there is a question as to whether his sons will take anything. They still have to be legitimized…sad but true… so he must be on the birth certificate or they have to prove their lineage.)

This share will be split with them and the wife, with her taking 2/3 of the estate. And in some cases the deceased person’s parents will also get a share. The wife will get the greater share.

regardless of the fact….a man worth that much should have made a will when he cashed his first NFL check. He should have set up trust funds for his kids, had annuities and some more shit. Hope he at least had a life insurance policy.

it won’t be that easy. as soon as the other mothers file claims their kids will be taken care of.

and i hope the wife takes whats left, buys herself a big dycck jump off and screws him right on Steve’s grave plot.

$500 in child support *SMH*.

how are you someone’s wife for 12 years and don’t make sure the house/paperwork is in order while he is out there earning the money? what do these women do all day?

i’m surprised at bus cook but hope that he looks out for the other two. i guess there is only so much that he can do.

the shame w/mechelle is if she would make the poorer baby mommas (or guardians) obtain legal counsel to fight for the money. the lawyer fees are going to eat up a lot of what those kids get.

I don’t know her intentions but I find it rather suspect that he has no will while I don’t doubt McNair probably thought he’d live a longer life I would think the wife would insist on it in case something did happen that the family would be taken care of. You were married for 12 years and nothing was done about it? I get it with Heath Ledger he wasn’t married when he died but he had a child and he had no will either. But when a spouse is involved you think about these things right?

@ Gimmeabreak78-I hear you even if nobody else did.

$500 a month for child support?
Just pennies for a man who has millions.

The NFL makes tons of money off of these players. I know that they have seminars for the players about finances. All that time that Steve was spending playing around with the gal that killed him could have been better spent making sure that he had a will, his finances were in order and his actual family (wife, kids, parents, perhaps) would be taken care of in the event of his death. Also, Mrs. McNair part of being a wife is ensuring that should something happen to your husband, everything is in order (i.e. a will, insurance). He never struck me as being this foolish.

So in essence this fool was out there playing and pretending to be Mr. Upstanding while his finances were not in order. So not cool.

No one thinks that it is a little suspect that he only paid $500 a month in child support? Does anyone know if these were his biological children? I don’t believe that women should get a lot of money from a man just because she had his child, but my friend pays more than that in child support and he doesn’t see the kind of money NFL players make.

This is truly sad-once you decide to have children,YOU HAVE TO MAKE A WILL!
Also,the story goes that she was never certain the other 2 were his children.I don’t know but I can’t see this woman cutting those children off.

He probably thought he’d reached super hero status and nothing would ever happen to him….I think she’ll do the right thing.

Bottom line, Mrs. McNair is paid. The other 2 outside kids are almost grown. I don’t know why people think kids are entitled to something past 18. People leave kids out of wills everyday. Bryan Gumble is still alive and won’t even pay his son’s cell phone bill while he is in college. I bet Byran pays all the bills for his young blond wife. Just because an adult is rich does not mean by law they have to take care of their children. For McNair’s 2 outside sons, the court may break them off 100k for college but they are not about to get chunk of the 60mil.

Live by the sword; die by the sword!

@ Aweful

You’re absolutely correct the correct term for her is indeed estate administratrix. But the outside children will get their share of the estate after proving that he is their father and there’s nothing Mrs. McNair could (or should) do about that.

@Atl_Finest

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The man did not leave a will so all his kids share equally after the wife gets her two-thirds. It doesn’t matter if they’re grown.

THIS IS HOW IT GOES SO EVERYONE CAN QUIT SPECULATING
Well since i have experience in this situation with a death of a parent with no will this is how it is in the eyes of the law. If you die intestate which means you have no will, your children are entitled get half and the wife with get half. The only way the other kids will not get anything, if he specifically put in his will that he does not want the kids with anything. A person can write a will and accidentally leave off a child the child will still be entitled to a third of his estate. So the only way the kids will be left out is if he put in a will that he leaves the child nothing. Executor of the estate really don’t mean anything, all that means it that she has to get everyone together she can’t make any decision or give or not give something to anyone. lets just say he had a outside child that she didn’t know about. if he did not specifically put in his will he want the child to have nothing, that child is automatically entitled to a third of the estate

@ Intheknow

Now that makes more sense. You are “in the know” after all

@Larry

Actually it isn’t THAT simple. It depends on your state’s laws of intestacy.

People need to understand that laws do not apply equally across state lines.

So whomever has jurisdiction over McNair’s estate, applies their laws.

Some state do not allow illegitimate children to take a claim in a persons assets, it will go to the wife and the legitimate children.

That is why there is a problem if these two sons were never legitimized under the law. If he had an out of court arrangement to pay these women $500 bucks per month…there may be something odd going on with the parentage. So if a court hasn’t deemed him the father or he hasn’t signed the birth certificate then they may have some problems establishing their stake.

And it is not true, in all states, that the only way the kids are left out is if he specifically put in the will that they take nothing. If he names 2 of his children and he has 4. The other two are left out. Period. They get nothing, unless they were born after the making of the will.

So if Steve has “Alex” and “Michael” then has “james” and “stevie”. And he mentions James and Stevie in the will.. Alex and Michael get nothing. He doesn’t have to say I intentionally left out James and Stevie in most states.

Again I say. It is not unusual for people to be without a will.

Do any of you over the age of 25 have wills?

Awful

you are wrong and you need to read up on you law. it doesn’t matter because the guy had no will. all kids are treated equal and the only thing that varies state to state is the percentage but. there is no way i believe he was only paying $500 a month in child support. i know guys who make $40,000 a year paying more than that and those children mothers would no allow that

HA HA!!! I love it. this is what you call POETIC JUSTICE. SHE is entitled to do whatever she damn well pleases with the cheating dog’s money…even if it means leaving all his love/bastard children out of the equation. Go ahead girl…buy yourself something nice everyday of the week for the rest of your life to make up for the embarrassment your dog of a husband caused you. love it!

Black folks, please do a will. Even if you have minor children, you need to put in a Last Will & Testament who you would want to take care of & raise them. I have a will. If you don’t have one, things do get ugly in the family from your parents or your siblings trying to take anything they touch. I have heard this too many times. We all know we have to leave this earth one day, so prepare yourself. You don’t want to think about it, but death is a part of life. We all will have to do it one day. MJ did have a will. Hopefully if Steve McNair has any assets, his widow will at least set up a trust or something for his other sons when they become 18 yrs. old. These are problems in our community when we have all of these kids with different baby mamas or baby daddies. Wise up my people. Peace within our race & stop the killings, we will become instinct if we don’t learn to love & respect one another. We as a race have been through enough. Wake up.

Oh Well…

YOU VERY BITTER

@jjones4

no I’m not bitter since the dog was not MY husband, however I did feel really sorry for his wife when I heard about the whole thing…so I’m glad that Karma is settling the score for her that’s all.

If she is the upstanding woman that she claims to be then she would do the right thing by those other two boys of his. They were here before her and her boys, so she should make it fair to all of the boys.

This will get ugly before it gets better count on it.

Pretty much which is probably why I don’t have that much sympathy for her where the cheating was concerned she knew who she married. Her choice.

@SayWhat

Thanks. It’s good to know that someone else heard it.

Next of kin is spouse NOT KIDS! Those kids are likely to get some college money but a piece of that 60mil, I doubt it. Parents die everyday in this country and kids cannot just walk in a lay claim while the other spouse is still living.

Somer

Next of kin is spouse NOT KIDS! Those kids are likely to get some college money but a piece of that 60mil, I doubt it. Parents die everyday in this country and kids cannot just walk in a lay claim while the other spouse is still living.

I see you dont read or know much, what the hell are you talking about. You win the award today for the dumbest post on this page

Somer

OMG…Most of you must be very young cause you have not experience life yet. It would be nice if Mrs. McNair continued the child support for the other 2 but my guess is she won’t. Most women (and men)don’t give a damn bout outside children unless they are the primary caretaker. That is why it’s very irresponsible for parents not to have wills when you have children with someone other than your spouse.

and that is why we have laws. Death and Money brings out the worst in most people so to say what Mrs Mcnair should or shouldn’t do is irrelevant. If you have no will and outside kids, the wife is not the sole heir. its goes wife and kids then if there are no wife or kids it goes to the siblings and so on. parents dont even have a claim unless there is no kids, wife, or sibilings

Somer

Next of kin is spouse NOT KIDS! Those kids are likely to get some college money but a piece of that 60mil, I doubt it. Parents die everyday in this country and kids cannot just walk in a lay claim while the other spouse is still living.

Another point, my brother who was 50 when he died and he was married to his wife for 10 years. The house they lived in he had prior to their marriage but he never put it in her name since they married so late in life and he had his prior and she had her own. After he died the wife had to move back to her own home and the house went to his kids. so just because a spouse is living at the time of death that don’t mean nothing

Hopefully this isn’t true…cuz God don’t like ugly and by denying his other children she would be acting very ugly. And she does have the right to, number one establish those other children’s paternity. But if it comes out to be his kids, then she can include them in the estate. It has nothing to do with guardianship.

and whats crazy and most of you will not believe she will not be able to even sale their family home if she like. since he had no will, the outside kids even have a stake in their home and all property own by him. so since they were married when the purchased the house, 50% of the house is her and 50% is his, now that he is dead the outside kids have a 1/3 stake in that family home and all property they aquired together. so the kids will probably get a bit more than everyone speculate because she will have to BUY them out.

Mz. J

Hopefully this isn’t true…cuz God don’t like ugly and by denying his other children she would be acting very ugly. And she does have the right to, number one establish those other children’s paternity. But if it comes out to be his kids, then she can include them in the estate. It has nothing to do with guardianship.

ITS NOT HER DECISION TO INCLUDE THEM ARE NOT,WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT READING. SHE HAS NO SAY SO IN THIS MATTER

AND JJONES4

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT

jjones4

and whats crazy and most of you will not believe she will not be able to even sale their family home if she like. since he had no will, the outside kids even have a stake in their home and all property own by him. so since they were married when the purchased the house, 50% of the house is her and 50% is his, now that he is dead the outside kids have a 1/3 stake in that family home and all property they aquired together. so the kids will probably get a bit more than everyone speculate because she will have to BUY them out.

YOU ARE RIGHT JJONES4, SHE IS EXECUTOR BUT SHE CONTROLS NOTHING BUT THE PART OWNED BY HER AND THEIR KIDS, SHE WILL HAVE TO BUY HIS OUTSIDE KIDS OUT OF EVERY SINGLE THING THEY OWNED BECAUSE HE HAD NO WILL. I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF THEY WERE 100 YEARS OLD AND THE KIDS WERE 75, THEY OWN A PART OF THEIR DADS ESTATE.

Atl_finest

@Clos…….I wanna know what state you live in cause your figures are off. With no will the wife gets everything. There is no 1/3 for children or none of that shit. She get 100%. She would not even be forced to pay for her childrens college education if she doesn’t want to.

you must not live in the united states, that is pure B.S

1. Married with children: Many people falsely believe that the surviving spouse/parent would take all the deceased spouse’s property, especially if the children are young. That is not the case. In this situation, the law of most states awards one-third to one-half of the decedent’s property to the surviving spouse, and the remainder to the children, regardless of age

SINCE HE HAD NO WILL ESTATE TAXES IS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT 45% OFF TOP. SO SHE WILL BE RICH BUT UNCLE SAM WILL GET HIS

Actually JJones

If they bought the house as Tenants by the entirety or joint tenants with the right of survivorship, then his outside kids have ZERO stake in the house.

As soon as he died, the house becomes hers.

I don’t know where you’re getting your so called “correct” information from, but you may want to bone up on some of your knowledge before you tell other people they are wrong. lol Just a thought (yeah, I still feel some kinda way about that lol)

karrli,

Actually intestacy laws allow for children to take from the estate as well. The surviving spouse does not get 100%

Sad but true.

JJones

Tenants by the entirety is automatic in most states where a husband and wife buy property in both their names, in an instrument documented showing joint ownership that is transferred to them at the same time.

So if her name is on the deed with his and it shows joint/equal ownership. There is nothing more they need to do.

You people keep talking about outside kids. The first two boys were born before Steve McNair married his wife so he had already established paternity long before the last two was born. There not an estate court in America that will allow her leave the two oldest boys out. So all of you text book lawyers Estate is more than the house…..

Steve’s first 2 children will have to prove parentage. And in all actuality they will get some of Steves estate but not as much as those born during the marriage unless the wife agrees.

Upon Steves death Mechelle became 75% owner of EVERYTHING Steve owned. She gets her 50% and 25% of his. The other 25% is owned by the children,parents, etc. When Mechelle dies she gets to will 100% of the estate, meaning her children will probably pick up her 75% plus the equal share of the 25% they received from their father.

More than likely Mechelle will only name her children in her will – so they will actually come out in the end for the better.

She deserves everything from what she had to go through with her husband. I hope she doesn’t forget the other kids.

The man died intestate. If the other boys are his children Steve’s wife can not stop them from getting money. The law in Tennessee automatically gives them a share of the estate.

MICHELLE COULD AT LEAST GIVE HIS SON’S MONEY THEIR FATHER EARNED HIMSELF . THEY WERE IN HIS LIFE BEFORE SHE CAME ALONG . IT DOESNT MATTER IF SHE HAD BEEF WITH THE BOYS MOTHER …..SHE CLAIMED TO LOVE STEVE …..STEVE LOVES HIS BOYS . MICHELLE SHOULD FEEL THE SAME WAY . I THINK THAT IT WILL BE REAL GRIMEY ; IF MICHELLE WERE TO LEAVE HIS BOYS OUT . SHE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT FOR THE REST OF LIFE ! STEVE’S SOUL WOULD’NT REST UNTIL HIS FAMILY IS TAKING CARE OF PROPERLY . WHAT REAL WOMAN WOULD TAKE MONEY AWAY FROM THE KIDS SHE WAS IN LOVE WITH FOR YEARS ? DAMN SHAME !