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I never liked his bum whack ass anyway. look like his breath stink…

If this is true, he is going to reap and reap hard for not doing right but his other child.

Why is she complaining to the media? Take his a$$ to court and get him locked up if you have to. It’s not like she’s some groupie. He had a long term relationship with him. Joy better make sure she handles her business or the same thing will happen to her and her out of wedlock child.

Isn’t he apart of the Winans Family? Shouldn’t he have God in his life? I Guess he doesn’t, because if he did he wouldn’t have become the dead beat father that he is today! Vicki talk to your son! JUST DISGRACEFUL.

Why Chicago?? Thats why its good to be homeless in Florida or California…Weather is easy to predict…

Hot and it might rain

He shouldn’t have any problems paying child support unless the child isn’t his (DNA).

Sad. His mother Vickie Winans is supposed to be an “Evangelist” wonder why she didn’t tell her son about the situation in advance? LOL

I would Kfed her ass and take the child away.. have her payin me.. since she homeless and can’t take care of herself..

I do agree he should take care of his responsibility.

Was she working while she was collecting child support?! Broads will learn baby-mamma status gets u nowhere. N staying home waiting for someone to cake you is not the answer.

mkay Mario, LOL @ Cassie’s crotch!

How can you support one child and neglect the other? He is a horrible example to his son of what a man should be and its not just about the money. It sounds like he doesn’t even see his son. I think his son’s mother deserves everything she gets cuz she obviously has to be both mother and father.

She was with him for 8 years she is not a groupie. She isn’t just asking him for money she is asking him to be their son’s life. She wants him to contact his son for holidays and his birthday like any parent should.

I’m not interested in this story in the least.

I’m wondering why Cassie’s crotch looks so concave…. what’s happening there? She’s got Barbie crotch syndrome.

these women need to stop depending on a man and get out there and make it for themselves..she need to get a better job so she can afford a lawyer and take him to court..these baby mamas need to stop thinking they cant be replaced

oh please she lost her house b/c he wasnt paying child support. that what happens when ur ass depends on someone else to take care of you. what happened to her job… a cocktail waitress, take ur ass back to school and YOU do right by your son..

All in all..i do not support “Dead beat ” dads and he should be paying her child support, but she needs to also get a job! i mean child support should be additional income not the main source, i dont agree with her complaining about being homeless and all that nonsense, she should get a job and still go after that money!

The guy’s an a-hole.

Why is she waiting around for this dude that IS NOT HER HUSBAND to pay her bills???? WTF! Child support is to take care of the child and HELP with household expenses. This chick is wack! She needs to work to keep a roof over her own damn head. SMH at this delusional broad.

And how does she know where the money is coming from for the other chick and her daughter? How does she know the other chick ain’t a hustler with her own stacks?

I know exactly what she’s going through. My son is 10 years old and he was his father’s first child. He is the only 1 out of 3 other kids that doesn’t know him. He’s had so many chances to be a part of his life and he chose not to be. He didn’t actually say he didn’t want to know his son, he simply ignores him. If he wasn’t a lazy bum, I would take his ass to court and sue for his rights.

I thought child support payments were supposed to support the child, not the mother (& child). What does her not receiving child support have to do with her paying her mortgage? 2 very separate issues. This broad was trying to get over & got got instead. Too bad!

lol @ SBM im with you lol…what kind of sob story is this? Take your ass to florida, where you can he homeless and at least REMOTElY satisfied with the welfare program and can keep warm all at the same time… Anyway, this can easily be solved with a blood test.. Following that, COURT, and following that, maybe a BRAND NEW CARRRRR!!!!

You shake the booty you do the duty……..

Great another deadbeat. This some shameful ish.

You know how many women are in this position? She act like he is the only man to do this. When ever you have a baby out of wedlock, there is a chance for this to happen. There are some ex-husbands that do that. The most valuable info my mom ever gave me is to have children only if I wanted them NOT CAUSE HE WANTED THEM. In the end if he is there or not, I will be the one taken care of them. That is why my husband and I are a childless couple and have last much longer than our friends with kids.

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!

I was in the book store yesterday and saw a book titled “How to Marry Your Baby’s Daddy.” Of course I have advice. The best way to marry your baby’s father is to WAIT TO GET PREGNANT AFTER YOU ARE MARRIED!!!!

Also, another bit of advice. If everyone begins to make decisions for today and not the future, there lives would have a lot less drama.

Back to the subject…if this is true, THAT NI*** TRIFE…at this point, the term ni*** decribes him perfectly.

WOW….is it ever that serious.

Mario you are wrong for that. Well I didn’t want to know but since Baby Momma #1 told us that is terrible. But $4500 is a lot a month. Why was she doing with all of that. Was she trying to live outside of her means. Because honestly if i was receiving that much, I’d have something from my own checks per week in savings.

I feel bad for her though…he should be taking care of his responsibilities. He could at least try to be involved.

SMDH!!! Terrible, but uh…welcome to the club!

SMH at the fact that she didn’t find a way to support herself outside of waiting to receive child support. Also, why all the hostility towards his family? You can have all the advantages in the world and still be a bad apple (Andy Reid’s drug dealing kids who got off easy, if you ask me). Finally, yes, when you have a child out of wedlock, you risk not having the man support you. But he was the one going raw in this lady, and then decided after the fact that he wasn’t going to take care of his child (they already had a paternity test). Men need to step up, wrap it up EVERY time, and stand in line to get the male birth control pill when it comes out. All this “she trapped me” BS is just a lame, pussified excuse not to be a grown up.

^^^^ That should be What was she doing not Why was she doing….

but also IT REALLY DISGUSTS ME WHEN A MAN IS PUBLICLY TAKING CARE OF ONE OR SOME OF HIS CHILDREN AND LEAVING THE REST BY THE WAYSIDE…A PIC OF YOU WITH ONE OF YOUR KIDS DOESN’T MAKE YOU FAMILY MAN AND GIVE US THE WARM AND FUZZIES!!!

TAKE CARE OF ALL OF YOUR KIDS OR USE SOME CONDOMS AND SPERMICIDE!!!

just another case of a no good ass nicca-I would like to see somebody explain this ish away

let me guess she was a hoe or a jump off so she and their baby must suffer the consequences right??

We all know plenty of men like this…once they move on in a new relationship that’s their only concern-”the new family”

to hell with the past and whatever responsibilities they have created-prime example of why this IS a man’s world because they can do sh#t like this and get away with it.

smh-not surprised one bit……

she’s so nice…

Good for them..and I know they are hanging around on Tallmeet.com some time…love them

and get a clue…..

how many men leave their wife’s high and dry with the kids while they pursue a new relationship’

marrying a man doesn’t guarantee that he will provide for your children if the marriage doesn’t work out

more likely, but not guaranteed-everybody act like they have such high morals but if that is the case their wouldn’t be so many damn cases of single women having children-

Ladies if you have a baby just be prepared to support the child emotionally and financially by yourselves……..there is no guarantee that a man will be there to support your child married or not-

If you spend eight years with a man and you have a child and he didn’t want to marry you………something is “seriously wrong” with that relationship.

why didnt she have anything saved up? does she not have an education? why couldnt she get a job and support herself? she’s sorry. he’s sorry. they both need to be slapped

My daddy used to always tell me and my sister that if you want someone to take care of you, the only place you need to be looking is the mirror! No where else…just the mirror.

Logic Said…

And how does she know where the money is coming from for the other chick and her daughter? How does she know the other chick ain’t a hustler with her own stacks?

I agree his current girl may have her own money, stranger things have happened. Mario is not a hitmaker. The baby mamma needs 2 jobs and to go to school. No man can make you homeless. Move to some city you can afford and get yourself together. Stop crying and making yourself look like a chickin.

@ Kompton’s Kutie…what’s good Kutie? How was the weekend?

“Broads will learn baby-mamma status gets u nowhere. N staying home waiting for someone to cake you is not the answer.”

You know she’s on the grind tryna find that replacement. That seems to be the industry stylo!

@NotoriousOne

GoodMorning! My weekend was good. How was ur weekend?

I mean, she was racking up for a while. Apparently she was blowing it off on herself. Not Good.

@Kai…

lol i’m glad someone understands my logic…Florida homeless have it good…when it rains you go to the shelter for the night, besides that you can be outside all year around..

4500 a month equals $54,000 a year…even if she made 25,000 a year she’d be fine, but judging from this story, she aint too bright and the money will be wasted on St. Ives Apricot Scrub

girl, get a job and take care of your own. stop crying cause some no good negro won’t pay child support. you are not the first and won’t be the last. take his sorry ass to court, and make him be responsible for yours, but don’t let your child down because his father is no good. this is so trifling on both parts. i understand she is resentful of the fact that he has another child that he is there for but one day he will regret what he did to his son, and by that time it may be too late…

Victims of Gwinnett triple slaying laid to rest

By ANDRIA SIMMONS

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 03/08/08

There was no 21-gun salute.

There had been enough trouble with guns.

Joy Deleston with her son, Anthony Tyrone Terrell, 17, and daughters, Micaiah, 11, and Jelani, 4, at a late 2007 screening of the movie ‘Riff, ‘ in which she had a role. Terrell was charged with murder for allegedly killing his mother and sisters inside the family home on Feb. 28, 2008.

Gwinnett County Sheriff’s Deputy Joy Deleston and her two daughters Micaiah, 11, and Jelani, 4, were laid to rest quietly Saturday on her childhood home of James Island, S.C., outside Charleston.

Windswept marshland grasses and towering live oaks provided a stunning backdrop to the small cemetery, where three gleaming white caskets topped with sprays of white orchids and pink roses were lowered into the ground.

The burial was preceded by a spirited “celebration of life” at First Baptist Church on James Island. Dozens of law enforcement officers from the Gwinnett and Charleston area joined more than 500 guests for the three-hour service.

In open caskets, Deleston, 39, could be seen wearing her deputy’s uniform; the girls wore pearls and matching pale pink gowns of sheer organza.

Marie Barrett, Jelani’s teacher at Kids “R” Kids preschool in Lawrenceville, spoke of the 4-year-old’s chatterbox personality and love of dance.

Jelani’s father, the rap star Juvenile whose real name is Terius Gray, did not attend the service.

Friends described Micaiah as the quiet one who loved assembling thousand-piece puzzles. Micaiah’s father, Dominique Ross of Jacksonville, Fla, said she was ambitious, “just like her momma.”

Deleston was a 7-year veteran of the Gwinnett Sheriff’s Department.

Her only surviving child, 17-year-old Anthony Tyrone Terrell Jr., is in custody in DeKalb County jail, unable to attend the funeral because he faces murder charges in the family’s shooting deaths. Police still do not know the motive, nor whether Deleston’s service weapon was used in the slayings March 28.

Nathaniel Deleston, Joy Deleston’s brother, broke down several times as he addressed a congregation that filled the sanctuary pews and spilled into an overflow room with metal folding chairs.

He tearfully admitted feeling “anger in his heart” when he learned of the shootings, but he admonished mourners not to judge Terrell.

“I am waiting for answers to our questions, but I trust God to give us our answers,” Deleston said. “I’m not going to turn my back on my nephew.”

I hope she gets it together before the child gets old enough to know to know what broke is

@ Kompton’s Kutie…weekend was busy, but it was good.

“I mean, she was racking up for a while. Apparently she was blowing it off on herself. Not Good.”

That’s always the case w/ these peeps. They think the cash flow is gonna go on forever. Same ‘em stacks while they’re coming in for that rainy day.

Oh and by the way, I am a single mother so I understand both sides.

And, how is he able to afford to have a chick in a 16 bedroom mansion? I mean, is he making hits that I don’t know about. Is the Winan’s money longer that we thought? If this is not the case, he needs to be hit over the head for being an idiot!

…”she was evicted from her home in Miami because Winans won’t pay child support”

Why doesn’t she have a job?

She sould have been using some of the $4,500 a month to attend or finish college. Then she could get a real job then take him to court.

True..She needs a job, but what does that have to do with the fact that the baby is his?? He know that they baby is his..The baby shouldn’thave to suffer..because he has something against her!

And alot of you are saying that is what she gets..UMM NO..that is what the baby gets! He knew what kind of person she was..before he raw dicked her! SO..both parties are wrong, and NOW they have a son! POINT BLANK! They had a history together..So he knew how she was before their son came along! IT IS NO EXCUSE..for him not to take care of his son

@ PeepEye, Kompton’s Kutie, Fit-n-Fab: I could not have said it better myself!!

Why don’t women go out and get their OWN! This whole not working once the checks start rollin in steez, is played out. If you work, you can get your own home, car, etc. and NO ONE can take that from you and “leave you homeless”??? What the ham!!?? While those checks were comming in she should have been going to school or something. At the very least an Associates Degree can be knocked out in 2 years or less.

Degree – check

More job opportunities available to you – check

You can build your own stacks – check

The peace of mind knowing you will never be ‘without’ should your personal life take a turn – Priceless!

@Killer, LOL!!!

Oh I want to also be clear that shorty is out of line for not working. My mother taught me to only live in your means. If you get extra good, if not you will still be okay. It is obvious that she has done nothing productive with the money. I hope she at least has a bit of a college fund for that baby. But more than likely she doesn’t, so in a way that does type make her a gold digger.

Why don’t people want their own money, for real? I am scared to deatht to depend on people. It is bad enough i have to depend on a job which in this day and age is not secure. I’d be damnned if i am depending on a dude paying my way!!

SMH!

This is a mess. It’s pathetic that he’s not handling his responsibilities. You can never rely on someone else to take care of you and YOUR child. You have to put yourself in the position where you will be able to support yourself with or WITHOUT the baby’s father. I don’t think that he needs to be off the hook by ANY MEANS (he’s a deadbeat) but she needs to step up and do what needs to be done for her and her child and not depend on him to do what he should be doing. It’s obviously NOT gonna happen.

THE BOY IS HIS! EITHER WAY..HE WILL PAY!

@SBM

Did Mario really say that? LOL

yeah, she thought she hit lotto & instead got $2 scratch off….

Somehow I don’t believe it’s that simple. She is on Welfare?

Mario Winans is’t exactly R kelly. if she was getting 54k a year living down south she should have been OK. The problem is this trick never had a job. If he is so far behind in his suppport and has money ..why don’t she lock his ass up. I am sure there is more to this story.

She had a baby that she could not take care of by herself. Why did she pop up preggers after 8 years?

Like Marquis said …premeditated victim.

@Hate Killer

I’m with you how can any woman have kids with a sweet ass man? Looking at that pic he looks sweet

I understand the deadbeat part but not the being evicted from her apartment part. Even though he is suppose to pay for child support, it is her fault that she got evicted. How about you get a better job and stop depending on others. If you had a job before you got evicted, then maybe you wouldn’t be living with friends. As for as Mario, child support enforement is the answer. I’m sure he doesn’t want to go to jail for child support so if you enforce it, then he would pay up.

He will PAY!

Yes he is a deadbeat!! However, my mother told me before you bring a child in to this world you need to be able to support yourself and your child without any help. The reality is things don’t always turn out as expected but you can’t be ass out because you and your child’s father aren’t together and he is no longer supporting you. I just don’t get some of these women sometimes. Yes it takes two, but as a woman you need to go the extra mile to protect yourself. Having a child is a life long responsibility. SMH!

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@ Marquis De Sade

Whoa!!! I don’t think intenzemocha came off with a “n***as ain’t s**t attitude”.

Intenzemocha, I don’t think we are all comimg down on just her. There are two parties involved, no doubt. I think what we’re saying is that it’s a good idea to make sure you have your own self taken care of so that when something like this happens, it’s not the end all-be all of your existence.

marquis??

I am a single parent and I dont get child support I got a job and take care of my son, he down bad for not taking care of his son but she should also do her part and take of her son if cocktail waitress dont pay the bills then do something else

Clearly this chick needs some marketable skills….SMH…a cocktail waitress? How old is this chick?? You had eight years with him livin the high life to take your ass to school… These men should make better choices as far as women are concerned in my opinion. Raise your standards a lil bit higher than just a big ass….And ladies, stop thinking your body will make you rich. Develop that brain!

4500 is not that much money.mofos in here think that’s alot of money.little boys can eat they asses off that’s one they grow out of clothes fast.pluse every child should have a savings account and some cd’s and a school fund.what while his other child is in private school his son dosent deserve the same education.4500 isn’t crap maybe to you .but for a child to raise a child more is needed .rent alone is like 2000and better and hell if your child is living else wear then you have to pay for your child shelter.

He needs to handle his and be a damn father. He looks ashy as hell in that pic too with his wack ass.

Supporting the child DOES includehelping with rent/bills, Itenz, you ignorant ass.

My daughter’s father bought a fertility kit from the drugstore so that we could conceive. It worked!!!

He ran away!! He’s never met my beautiful daughter. She smart, too and full of sass.

He’s never met her.

I’ve never been homeless. I’m a college drop out, even.

I do for me and mine. (Work). We dont’ have any luxuries in our life (cable TV, NICE car , spacious home )

It’s very frustrating.

4500 is support for the child, I def thing that is enough. The mother should be working and able to support herself as well. This is to help with expenses for raising a child. Too many women have it twisted, child support is not a pass for you to sit on you ass and not work.

A lot of folks can have babies, but very few actually need to be parents.

she look like she’s holding a roll of 20′s in her shorts

I feel sorry for people that cant have children. I’m sure they would be the best parents

umm, to whoever said you can’t raise a child on 4500 a month, you are smokin. Most of the parents single parents on this website are probably making less that that a month working AND recieving child support. Folks priorities are messed up. Yo baby doesn’t need Sean Jean and Baby Phat just like yo ass don’t need prada bags and to spend $300 getting a weave down your back and at the nail salon a month. Live beneath your means! Its the only way to save for the future….

why would she depend on him so much to the extent that she becomes homeless? i dont think that she should have to raise her child alone, but there are plenty of women who do it everyday and find a way to keep shelter over their child’s head. stop being the victim and take care of your son.

My father had to pay $15.00 a month for child support and he didn’t even pay that!!!

So when they told me my dad died and when they were having his funeral, I told them that there was nothing in that casket that I need to see or mourn. Nothing!!

I didn’t really miss the child support money as much as I missed the “relationship.” Afte getting older, I realized that I could never really like someone who would let their child go hungry, just because he were mad at your mother.

First of all, a lot of assumptions have been made. This couple was in a relationship for seven years and no baby. Then, success seems appeared to be on the horizon, boom, a baby?! The whole scenario sounds suspect. And it seems that all of the babymamas reading this post, are siding with this trifling woman.

Tell you what, my son’s father divorced me and I didn’t want anything from him. Not even child support. I didn’t need it. Even though he had a good job and could have given upwards of 1000 per month I turned it down because 1.) I didn’t want to financially crush him and 2.) I know how to get my own money. Even though at the time, I didn’t have anything materially, because I was a stay at home mom. But guess what, my son and I ain’t never wanted for anything, and I dang sure wasn’t going to get evicted or go hungry. We lived in the south. We moved to the Chicago and now I’m rolling!!!! It’s about you and what you want. It’s a sorry state that she’s telling the world that she’s depending on this guy for anything. By the way, my son’s father sends money when he wants to. It doesn’t mean he’s a deadbeat, don’t love his son or any of that nonsense. My point is, babies belong to mommies. All her suffering seems so 1960′s.

If she wouldhave went to school and did something with herself, she wouljd have had a job and not have been depending on his checks each month to live off of. The support is supposed to be for the Child and not the mother. Why you on section 8 if the man just stopped the payments in August, just shows you were not working in the first place or trying to live beyond your means off the support checks. Get a real job and support yourself and put the money up fo when your son goes to school. Gold Digger

And u right PrettinRed…

However, children should not suffer or be neglected because their parents are idiots!!!

When the son grows up to be a criminal, whose fault will that be?

@ PrettiinRed…

I commend you for all that you have done and will do for your son but I just feel that men should step up to the plate and be responsible for theirs. Even if you wanted to turn his money down you could have given him the option of depositing the money in a college plan or a trust fund…something!!

Again, I commend you when you say, “I didn’t want anything from him. Not even child support. I didn’t need it.” It’s not about you though, it’s for your son and later on in life he might want to go to law school or med school or grad school and I speak from experience when I say that ish is HELLAH expensive now! In another 15+ years its gonna be out of this world. So any monies that he could have contributed could be beneficial down the line.

Show him that it’s not about you benefiting from his money but about giving your son a step up later on in life.

Child support is to support the child, not the mother. The mother should have gone back to school, learned a trade to ensure that she does not have to wait on a handout from ANYONE to take care of HER child. Mario needs to support his child but the Mother needs to support herself and her child. When she started falling on hard times she should have gotten a lawyter to work out a temporary situation that would have forced Mario to take custody while she got on her feet, since she was unable to maintain her son in a stable environment. Above and beyond her losses she should have said, I cant carry him right now, can you? and not been worried about a “check” to hold her over.

The moral of this story is that the you should always trust in yourself to take care of yourself. Marriage doesn’t guarantee anything, being in a relationship for 8 years dsnt gurantee anything either. MEN use birth control to avoid, being a babby daddy. WOMEN use birth control to avoid being a baby mama. Have some goals in life that do not involve getting or paying out a check for support. Support yourself through education, skilled trades and you will never ever have to check your mailbox for paper.

NO MORE CHILDREN WITH BUSTERS, (MALE OR FEMALE)

Prettinred…that is your decision to excuse your son’s father from his responsibilities. If you think somehow you are being a ‘model’ babymama by doing this, then good for you, but I don’t agree that everyone should follow your lead.

Now, I would advise any woman MARRIED OR NOT who has children, plan on having children etc. to make sure you can do for yourself and your child first. Stay positive and if possible try to establish a good relationship with your ex for the child’s sake. It is a shame that you have to do this but you should DEMAND that the child’s father also does his part emotionally and financially for the child. Lead by example but don’t give up because he is broke or he may become broke. Not only may your child suffer, but you will just be doing the next female/family he gets involved with a gross disservice…

That is what I am talking about NOTORIOUSONE!

@ miss thang…

Both parents are definitely at fault and are both negligent w/ regards to the needs and the care of the child. I think the worse part is that it doesn’t seem like she can even take care of HER own basic needs.

Why is she depending on him to pay her bills and give her and her baby a house and a home???? They not together his responsibility is that baby and if he can’t step up then she needs to ain’t no way in the world my baby not going to have boots in the winter time….this chick thought that since she had his baby she is now Kim Porter Jr.???? UGH!!! Take care of your kids or USE CONTRACEPTIVES!!!!

@ Dead Cell i co-sign 100% Thats pretty much what I said wrapped up and tied ina bow!

Oh and 4 everybody who is saying 4500 is not enough….YES IT IS IF U HAVE A DAMN JOB!

*I stand by my comment

Damn shame if it’s true. But even if he was paying child support he probably will still be a “paying”dead-beat because for some reason people with or without money think they can just sweep the bastard kids under the rug while the “wifey’s” kids are the “real” family. It happens alot in every culture. Larry Bird had a secret child. I believe some of these “wifey’s” need to be like Jada Pinkett and say your child is my child and realize that if he’s doing it to another chick he will do it to you.

@ M-DADDY

I feel sorry for people that cant have children. I’m sure they would be the best parents

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I feel you man!

@Lauren

Hello ma

@ Rotex

I know alot of couples who cant have kids.

Dude has no excuse. How can yo not want to take care of your own child, thats a part of you

@ Brother M…what’s good fam? Welcome to the fray.

Yeah it is quite a shame that couples that are desperate to have kids can’t and some peeps out there are having them and not realizing just how much of a privilege it is to have a child.

I know you were paying attention, but were you listening? There isn’t anything in this life that my son wants to do et. al. that I can’t provide for him. Actually, my son wants to go to medical school. It’s been his dream since he was five. I got that. During the summer, he goes to enrichment programs at a prestigious university, we have fantastic summer vacations, we’re okay. His father knows he wants to be a doctor. If he wants to contribute, he can. I’m not stopping him, but at the same time, he’s not going to stop my son or me either. What you all fail to realize is this: YOU CAN’T MAKE A GROWN PERSON DO ANYTHING. My son’s father gives my son money and it’s my son’s money. Sometimes it’s a few hundred dollars, sometimes it’s a few thousand. That’s their business and that’s their relationship. My only child is well cared for. He will never want for anything. I

@NotoriousOne

Whats good playa? Man I had so much fun with my kids this weekend. We had lunch then we went bowling, we went to the park and played football. We had a ball, I cant imagine me not being around my kids

@Ms. Sugar Walls

Whats up Miss Walls?

@PrettiinRed

I have a question for you…You were a stay at home mom, you turned down his money, and were able to pay your bills & expenses independently?

What he should have done was got temporary custody of the child until the Mother got back on her feet.

“I have a question for you…You were a stay at home mom, you turned down his money, and were able to pay your bills & expenses independently?”

LOL!! Do you REALLY believe the story this person is telling??

C’mon now – SMDH!!

Well, to tell the truth NAWWWWWWWWW! Just being cynical.

@PrettiinRed

If you dont mind me asking what was your form of income?

lol@ the onslaught a-coming…

I love rock paper scissors! Rock!

@ MDADDY…..Heeeeeeya! How was ur weekend?

Well, next time get married before you have a baby, won’t guarantee anything, but the chances of his moving along without doing something are minimalized.

Disability? Medicaid? That is kind of deep. I mean but at $4500 a month? You should have been saving some of that loot if you were getting paid until last year.

But, Mario ain’t got no job?

@Lauren

It was really nice. It was my son’s 9th birthday on Saturday me him and his brothers kicked it. How was your weekend?

Mario?? WHO??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

OBVIOUSLY BEING A COCKTAIL WAITRESS WASN’TPAYING THE F*CKING BILLS OR THE RENT OR BOTH.

I HAVE A CHILD, MY JOB COVERS RENT, BILLS, UTILIIES AND WHATEVER. I MAYBE BE EMPTY WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE BUT BABYGIRL AIN’T EVER GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE THE F*CK SHE LAYS AT NIGHT OR IF SHE HAS ENOUGH FOOD TO EAT. F*CK THIS TIRED ASS BULLSHYT BY B*TCHES. I HAD MY BABY BECAUSE I WANTED TO AND I AM LUCKY THAT HER DAD IS AROUND TO HELP OUT BUT I TAKE CARE OF HER AND THE REST IS EXTRA.

F*CK READING CORRECTLY….THE B*TCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON HER TOES TO KNOW NO MAN WILL TAKE CARE OF HER SORRY ASS JUST LIKE ALL WOMEN SHOULD NEVER EXPECT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF….ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FOR A RAINY DAY!

@Skoopes-Da Original

@But, Mario ain’t got no job?

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He better get to singing hooks

@ SMDH….I feel what u are saying but why should she sit on her lazy ass and wait for him to take care of her???? Thats stupid, get a job he’s not obligated to her, they’re not married….

@ I’m Just Me

F*CK READING CORRECTLY….THE B*TCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON HER TOES TO KNOW NO MAN WILL TAKE CARE OF HER SORRY ASS JUST LIKE ALL WOMEN SHOULD NEVER EXPECT TO BE TAKEN CARE OF….ALWAYS MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FOR A RAINY DAY

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So sad but in alot of cases this so true

@ MDADDY….Aaaaaw! 9 years old! Thats too cute! Mines was good u know chillin wit the homies on spring break….can’t complain….the little one is driving me crazy though…lol guess thats her job though right?

Another black man..charge it to the case…yeah right..I hope she gets everypenny from him. Isn’t he supposed to be Christian apart of the Winan’s family. HMPH

@ I’m Just Me….U are soooo right and thats all I was trying to explain that girl don’t have no excuse for that baby not having no winter boots, AND they live in Chicago??? SMH!

@SMDH

But a woman in her right mind will be able to detect if she is going to say “I DO” to a winner or a loser

“@ SMDH….I feel what u are saying but why should she sit on her lazy ass and wait for him to take care of her???? Thats stupid, get a job he’s not obligated to her, they’re not married….”

I understand that Lauren.. My issue is the people up in here acting like this man shouldn’t have to do anything for his child because they were not married when THEY made that baby.. Its not a womans fault that a man cannot be responsible.. I’m talking about these so called women up in here saying “stop whining and take care of your kid yourself”.. HE MADE THE BABY TOO!! No – he should not have to do a DAMN thing for her benefit, but he should be taking care of his child without question.. I just feel like attitudes that blame everyone else for the setbacks of black men makes it easier for black men to stay where they areand be no help or hope to their sons and daughters..

Lauren

@Lauren

@ MDADDY….Aaaaaw! 9 years old! Thats too cute! Mines was good u know chillin wit the homies on spring break….can’t complain….the little one is driving me crazy though…lol guess thats her job though right

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Yeah he is the baby. I have four and am not having anymore. I have 2 step daughter whom I’ve raised since they were 2 they are 14 and 16 now. I have my handsful but I love every minute of it

@SMDH

I understand that Lauren.. My issue is the people up in here acting like this man shouldn’t have to do anything for his child because they were not married when THEY made that baby.. Its not a womans fault that a man cannot be responsible.. I’m talking about these so called women up in here saying “stop whining and take care of your kid yourself”.. HE MADE THE BABY TOO!! No – he should not have to do a DAMN thing for her benefit, but he should be taking care of his child without question.. I just feel like attitudes that blame everyone else for the setbacks of black men makes it easier for black men to stay where they areand be no help or hope to their sons and daughters..

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I totally agree 100%

@ SMDH I co sign 100% with that, but you know a lot of times its the women who are stupid enough to say I want child support but you can’t see your kid….now thats f*ked up and I can’t stand when a man tries to do something but the women won’t let them and just like you said he made the baby too but she can’t sit up there and say they got evicted because of him….thats totally ridiculous to me….

And being that he comes from a very religious family this would be the last thing I would believe about him

“I HAD MY BABY BECAUSE I WANTED TO AND I AM LUCKY THAT HER DAD IS AROUND TO HELP OUT BUT I TAKE CARE OF HER AND THE REST IS EXTRA.”

So you’re saying a father is a benefit?? That is you have one good, but if not good?? If he’s there good, butif not good?? This is a very destructive attitude to have and try to pass on.. However, its YOU’RE choice but no other woman has to be so ridiculously stupid.. Every child needs a father, especially a boy.. Every man should beheld accountable to his offspring and any woman looking to give her childs father a break on that is just as sorry as he is..

Again, attitudes like this that say “its ok to shun your responsibility.. I’ll take care of it alone and even blame myself if need be” are the reason the black man is the worse fathers on the planet now…

SMDH!!!

She put this on herself by not making that negro marry her before impregnating her, when a man is married to the child’s mother it’s harder for him to pull stunts like this, That’s what she gets for playing house. However I do feel bad for the child because he did not ask to be born to an unwed mother and deadbeat father, poor baby.

@ MDADDY_I know right!!! Ain’t his Auntie & Uncle Be Be AND Ce Ce??? Well, theres a lot of them with that last name in Hollyweird so who knows??

First of all, let’s talk about the fact that Mario looks like a sanitation worker and that dirty ass outfit. Was that what he what he was doing the last 4 years since “I don’t wanna know” came out? AHAHAHAHA!

“@ SMDH I co sign 100% with that, but you know a lot of times its the women who are stupid enough to say I want child support but you can’t see your kid….now thats f*ked up and I can’t stand when a man tries to do something but the women won’t let them and just like you said he made the baby too but she can’t sit up there and say they got evicted because of him….thats totally ridiculous to me….”

When did the woman say he can’t see his kid?!?!? It sounds to me like she’s BEGGING for the opposite?!?!

And as far as her getting evicted, thats on her.. EVen without a child she’d STILL need a roof over herhead.. It’s not his responsibility to house her.. My issues is the lack of child support..

@ Beantown_Miami: How do you MAKE a man marry you????? Please let me know because if we find that out thats like finding a cure for cancer…..

@Lauren

Yeah I think Be Be and Ce Ce is his Aunt and Uncle.

@ Lauren…why go to Chi-town if you cannot dress the child correctly. CPS needs to be called behind that because that is a form of neglect. Payless has booths for $15.00 and believe it or not they keep the feet warm. I brought my Babygirl (5 years old) some Hello Kitty boots they kept her feet warmer and drier than those Timberland boots.

People do need to take responsibility for their own children. Yes the man should help but the children need to be raised best to the ability no matter who takes them.

Stop waiting for a man to cater to you. If you are a lucky one to get them then God bless but for the rest of us we pick ourselves up by our boot straps and get to pounding that pavement. There is no excuse for children not being dressed right. They have Goodwill and all of those types of charity places. People need to stop thinking they are high and mighty and humble themsevles down.

M-Daddy: It is sad but true, so in the mean time step to the plate and do what you have to do. I respect you for being involved in your child’s life.

@ MDADDY_ I feel u isn’t that all you want in life after having offspring, for them to not want for ANYTHING??? I just don’t get some people, got these kids walking around with their last names lookin just like them and they haven’t seen them in a month of Sundays SMDH!!

@M-Daddy: It is sad but true, so in the mean time step to the plate and do what you have to do. I respect you for being involved in your child’s life.

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Thank you, I love my kids with my whole blood pump (heart) I cant imagine anything hurting them. I dont know what I would do

@ I’M JSUT ME

“People do need to take responsibility for their own children. Yes the man should help but the children need to be raised best to the ability no matter who takes them.”

EXCATLY MY POINT AND YOURS!

She’s is just making excuses….But Mario does need to stop bein triflin and give her some money I mean to totally diss her like that AND they got a paternity test?? WTF??

@Lauren

@ MDADDY_ I feel u isn’t that all you want in life after having offspring, for them to not want for ANYTHING??? I just don’t get some people, got these kids walking around with their last names lookin just like them and they haven’t seen them in a month of Sundays SMDH!!

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I see it all the time. My house is open to all the kids in the neighborhood I have about 20 God Children no lie. Them kids know they can come to me for anything

@ MDADDY well thats awesome, I know someone who is the same way even though that kids don’t live with you , you never know the IMPACT you have on thier lives by JUST BEING THERE….

I HAVE THE SOLUTION TO YOU NEGROES PROBLEM. STOP BREEDING! AS A RACE, YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 200 YEARS AND DURING WHICH, YOU HAVE PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT YOU ARE FAILURES. FOR HUMANITIES SAKE, HAVE THE DECENCY TO GET STERILIZED, THUS PREVENTING THE FURTHER PROPAGATION OF YOUR RACE. YOU DO NOT SERVE A PURPOSE AMONGST CIVILIZED SOCIETY. GRANTED, THERE ARE A FEW OF YOU WHO HAVE EVOLVED AND BECAME PRODUCTIVE, AND FOR THOSE I SALUTE YOU. FOR THE OTHERS, JUST FADE AWAY.

@Lauren

Alot of my chidren’s friends dont have a Male figure in their lives so I try to be there to show them they dont have to make bad choices. There are alot of guys in the hood doing wrong and young boys see that and think its cool. I try to show them something positive. I take them to the Gym that I work at, take um to the park etc.. Just trying to give them something to do

@ SMDH It is not that i feel he is a benefit. He does what he does. I take care of my child. If he was to dipset tonight I would be okay. I don’t need him so i guess in a way he is a bit of a luxury. But when i got pregnant my mother told me be prepared to be a single parent and that is what I have done. There are moments when he is not around because of poor decision making skills on his part. Should I then let Babygirl go by the wayside? Run to welfare or to a shelter? No. I have to do better for her than that. And i have been at the bottom of the barrel: Dolo in a shelter, and I have worked my way up, through God’s mercy and glory, to the little bit that I have for us now.

I am not teaching my daughter that a man should leave her high and dry. He is wrong. Mario is wrong, all of them are wrong. But i am teaching her she shouldn’t let HER RESPONSIBILITIES fall by the wayside because A MAN is not there. So are you saying I shouldn’t take care of her correctly because he doesn’t do what he is supposed? Whether he is there or not…she has to eat, needs a bed to sleep on, whatever.

I think that all of the men that have flown the coop are dead to wrong, especially if they have other kids that they take care of because they are conveniently with their mothers at the moment. But i had to step to the plate to provide and that is what I did. So no i don’t think that the shun your responsilbility mentality is the way i am thinking, but i also cannot sit around and wait for a person who isn’t helping. Things still need to be done.

And honestly it is the men’s actions of leaving the scene after they drop the nut or when they feel like it that has given us that mentality of I’ll do it myself because truthfully, if I don’t do it for my daughter then who will??

The next step is to get the LAW involved

@ MDADDY…U right take that ass to jail them checks will never stop comin in….

@ SHERMAN BYT….Are you suggesting that African Americans are the ONLY race with Child support problems???? If so you are sadly mistaken.

All of us need to understand that it isn’t always about just US!!

We need to make better choices and better decisions about who we decide to have children with. What kind of people are we choosing to be a part of our children and how that will impact their futures?

Deadbeat daddies suck, but on a seperate note has any one ever bought one of his albums?

Has anyone bought either one of their albums!!

And somehow yet again…this turns into a race issue!

Jesus! Can’t the issue ever just stay the issue without adding more to the pot!

@ LAUREN

70% OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CHILDREN ARE BORN OUT OF WEDLOCK. MOST ARE BORN INTO POVERTY, THUS RESULTING IN BECOMING WELL VERSED WITH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, WHICH LEADS TO SPENDING MOST OF THEIR FORMATIVE AND ADULT LIVES IN AND OUT OF CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES. NOT FICTION BUT FACT. SOLUTION: STERILIZATION!

I’m upset that she actually said that she was on welfare and disability just to have the baby… I mean really was it that deep.

HE IS WRONG IF HE ISNT MANNING UP…BUT THIS BROAD NEEDS TO GET OFF HER ASS AND SUPPORT HER CHILD AS MANY SINGLE MOTHERS DO! LAZY HEIFER!

@ Brother M…what’s good fam?…

“I cant imagine me not being around my kids”

That’s my sentiments exact. I look at my lil’ man and I can’t imagine how any parent can just walk away from that. Granted he can drive me up the wall at times but I wouldn’t trade it for the world!

She shaped like a white girl.

@ Lauren

The way a woman to MAKE a man marry her is to keep her legs closed until the wedding night if a man is decent and has any self control respect for the woman in his life and the woman has self respect this is a piece of cake! But this is easier said than done

@SMDH

A ring may not change the fact a man is a dog but the meaning behind the ring will. Marriage is more than a liscence and a ring it is a covenant.

I agree w/ you if a man is a loser nothing is going to change that but the problem is many women are tolerant of the losers, alot of women have all the tell tale signs and clues that the men they are with are losers but many of them are desperate and are afraid of being lonely so they ignore their intution because of the men have money/fame or good sex which is why 70% of Black babies are bastard children.

This chick is stupid anyway because all she has to do is go to court instead this broad is going to the media. This chick is just plain stupid. However this does not give Mario the right to deny his seed he’s just as dumb as his dumb Baby’s Mom.

@ Sherman…..My thing is we were all having a great forum regarding child support and this chick getting evicted and what not, then you come in and say that black people need to be sterilized 1st off thats not called for nobody made it a racial issue, and I don’t know where your facts come from but it seems pretty far fetched but whatever. I just don’t see the point in pointing statistics out to a certain race when this issue is evident in all races….ALL RACES….ALL RACES….

@ LAUREN

IT SEEMS FAR-FETCHED BECAUSE LIKE MOST WOMEN, YOU DON’T BOTHER TO PICK UP A BOOK, FOLLOW IMPORTANT CURRENT EVENTS OR READ A NEWSPAPER. CHILD, IT IS 2008! YOUR PEOPLE ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME ISSUES THAT HAS PLAGUED YOU, YOUR PARENTS AND GRAND PARENTS. WHEN ARE YOU/YOUR PEOPLE GOING TO CATCH UP? THE ANSWER IS YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF CATCHING UP DUE TO YOUR LACK OF AMBITION AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO YOURSELVES AND YOUR COMMUNITY. I REPEAT: STERILIZATION!

sherman, u know nothing. blacks folk were better off generations ago than they are today – ‘in the day’ there were fewer divorces and children born out of wedlock, less crime and drugs in the communities, and a rising level of prosperity. this is the first generation to be worse off than the generation before and its a gotdamnshame.

It’s so sad that these sorry ass men and women won’t handle their business when it comes to their seeds, but all these deadbeat moms and dads need to know that a day will come when they will need help and there goin to call on these children who they didn’t take care of. Baby girl go to work and do the best you can trouble don’t last always, GOD is about to move in your life believe that!

*PRAYER CHANGES THINGS*

@ WONKWONK

EXCUSE ME WONKWONK, WHEN DISCUSSING THE PLIGHT OF NEGROES, WE ARE DEALING WITH A RACE ON AVERAGE WHERE THE GRANDPARENT ARE IN THEIR MID TO LATE THIRTIES AS OPPOSED TO WHITES WHOSE GRAND PARENTS ON AVERAGE ARE IN THEIR EARLY FIFTIES TO SIXTIES. I REALIZE THIS MAYBE HARD FOR YOU TO GRASP, BUT IN HINDSIGHT, IT’S NOT YOUR FAULT. IT’S SIMPLY YOUR ENVIRONMENT AND EXPECTATIONS OR A LACK OF.

@NotoriousOne

Its funny because when I punish them I feel like I’m punishing myself. I want my kids to always be happy, they are already spoiled but in a positive way.

PEOPLE THIS IS NOT A RACE THING THIS IS A PEOPLE THING!!!!!

Am I the only one reading this she said that she got evicted because he didn’t pay child support sooooooo where’s her job? Why is she only dependent on him? Sorry she sounds like a gold digger why is she concern with the mink and seven jeans? I mean she needs to step up her game and get a job and stop depending on her baby daddy

@Lauren

Play nice boo

Child supoort check is a national hustle-game for american girls more black girls

@ MDADDY, THATS EXCATLY WHAT I WAS TRYIN TO TELL FAT ASS SHERMAN

@ LAUREN

A CHILD AT 17. RAISING IT ON YOUR OWN. BELOW AVERAGE GRASP OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED.

@ Mdaddy, sorry babe I got kinda heated, lol

@ Lauren

@ Mdaddy, sorry babe I got kinda heated, lol

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LOL I see. But remember everybody has their own opinions, a person who has never experienced what another person has can never really know, so in the end all that they have is their opinions

So, sherman, where are your statistics now? BECAUSE I AM NOT ONE OF THEM DARLING..

“So, sherman, where are your statistics now? BECAUSE I AM NOT ONE OF THEM DARLING.. ”

Why are you conversing/explaining yourself to this coon trool???

@Lauren

No No No you stay right here. Being a young single strong BLACK Mother/Woman your presence is definatly needed here

@ SMDH….U right I shouldn’t even have sweat that…..

@ SMDH, On the other posts, I never truly understood your logic, I think it was because of your lingo but today I totally get you, and not even just on this post, i’m talking your whole outlook on black men and how how some of them treat black women….needless to say we need more MDADDY’s right ?

@ MDaddy… ok will…

“needless to say we need more MDADDY’s right ?”

ABSOLUTELY!! Every black man should take fatherhood as serious as MDADDY does..

MDADDY: You’re a dying breed brotha.. Whats wrong with your brethren??? Haven’t we had enough black boys being raised without daddy?? You need to spread some of what you’ve got – for real!!!

@ MDaddy, They are recruting police form NY over here to Philly….theres a shortage over here on the East Coast too….

And some of the poor kids don’t even get to see their daddy til his funeral, smh!

@SMDH

I agree with Lauren I just thought you hated Black Men but now I see where you are coming from. And you made a comment that its not all Black Men which I respected, I know my brthas have not done their jobs effectivly and it really saddens me I love and respect my Black Sistahs. Where would men be with out them? After all you gave us life

@SMDH

@MDADDY: You’re a dying breed brotha.. Whats wrong with your brethren??? Haven’t we had enough black boys being raised without daddy?? You need to spread some of what you’ve got – for real!!!

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Its work in progress

Damn

“MDaddy, They are recruting police form NY over here to Philly”

You’re from Philly?? You all better do my boy Barack right on April 22nd!!!!!!

Lauren…

Definitely don’t let that ish get to you. That’s what ignant folks try to do. They feel relatively safe hiding behind their keyboards spewing ignorance but are probably just mad because all those they consider ‘minorities’ have achieved more than they ever will.

I am so sick and tired of chicks thinking they can have a baby by some guy and be taken care of for the next 18 years.

1. she was evicted from her home in Miami because Winans won’t pay child support

child support is to support the CHILD. not to pay her bills. she was evicted because SHE didnt make sure her bills were paid.

Mario should be in his child’s life but he shouldn’t be the only one responsible for making sure their son has boots in the winter. I know plenty of single mothers who support their children by themselves and they do whatever needs to be done to provide for their children.

@Lauren

@ MDaddy, They are recruting police form NY over here to Philly….theres a shortage over here on the East Coast too

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When I was little I was taught to hate the LAW!! But when I got from under the negative thoughts that was put in my head I actually wanted to be a cop. I still might

@ 6AM….U don’t know how true that is in my neighborhood….so sad I can’t count how many time a girl claimed the guy “LOVED HER” because he wants to “move in” Well, thats because he lives with his momma and hes gonna mooch off of you….crazy!

@NotoriousOne

What would this post be without somebody making unique statements? LOL

@lauren

You know who you are boo just keep that in mind

@ MDADDY….U should totally do it!! Somebody like you could change a whole neighborhood…..thats what we need though.

@ SMDH_ U know I will! Hilary is over here in Philly today trying to give some good head….lol…jk….but I need Barack to come on down and show them that PA is NOT a lost cause, RIGHT NOTORIOUS??

@ Lauren…

Obama is making sure that he has Mississippi on lock and then he’s gonna storm PA!

@ SMDH, I’m trying to get all my peoples to actually register to vote because the deadline is MARCH 24TH….It starts by registering, do you know how many people show up on voting day and they’re not registered?SMH….

@ Brother M…

“What would this post be without somebody making unique statements? LOL”

You’re right, you’re always going to have an instigator. I just wish we would ignore those types. There’s a way to state a dissenting opinion w/out being rude or derogatory about it. Worse is the fact that they generalize or act as though some of life’s hardships only apply to one race.

@ Notorious One….If you scroll above you will see that I tried to be patient and state what I had to state to get my point across but then he tried to come at me PERSONALLY and I just didn’t think that was neccesary.

@ Lauren…

“do you know how many people show up on voting day and they’re not registered?”

That’s some of the grassroots work that some of the Obama volunteers try to do, educate some of the younger voters on the whole registering and voting process. A lot of people don’t know that even if you were convicted of a felony and couldn’t previously vote, there IS a process to make yourself eligible again (varies by state).

Plus u know Philly chicks….lol…just kidding….

@ Lauren…

“U see the Chinese people with their chain of stores….and U see us gunning each other down…so sad sometimes.”

I agree w/ you & SMDH to a certain extent but there a lot of factors involved at the OTHER end as well. Studies have shown that a black couple w/ better credit and a higher income than a white couple will STILL be less likely to get a home mortgage loan approval. There are institutional trappings that handicap even those that have done all the right things.

@ Lauren…

“I tried to be patient and state what I had to state to get my point across but then he tried to come at me PERSONALLY and I just didn’t think that was neccesary.”

That’s my point exactly, some people are not about having an intelligent discussion. They just want to put you down regardless of what you say. That’s when you know you don’t need to waste your time.

@ YOU PEOPLE

CO SIGN 100%……..U see the Chinese people with their chain of stores….and U see us gunning each other down…so sad sometimes.

AMEN!! The only problem is we dont trust one another and to be honest some of us cant be trusted. Its SAD!!

I REPEAT! STERILIZATION

@ SHERMAN B. Y.T

I REPEAT! STERILIZATION

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WHAT IS NEEDED IS EDUCATION!!!

Lauren…

“play date? Central Park?”

Let’s make it happen!! LOL Have a good one L.

f*** him girl thats y the song is called INDEPENDENT actually do u kno what that means ??????

@ LAUREN

DON’T FORGET TO STOP BY WIC FOR YOUR WEEKLY NUTRITIONAL WELFARE SUPPLEMENTS TO NOURISH YOUR MISTAKE.

HE WILL PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow you two broke ass nappy weave wearin’ uneducated babymommas stick together huh? Oh well I guess its less painful to be broke and ignorant alone huh?

I am the real “6am” but tell me something hoes, why do you keep having kids when you cant even feed the ones you have right now? can you answer that question?

It’s real sickening to see how many women on this site are OK with the mindset that it’s okay to expect to be left high and dry by a sorry-arsed nicca too irresponsible to take care of his own body and wrap it up. I mean, I believe all adults should work and support themselves, peroid. People who have children should provide for them, period. But as a society, black people have got to stop accepting this black men can create and baby and leave because the women will just have to handle it. We are reinforcing the wrong kinds of stereotypes, and hav elong been our own worst enemies.

Oh and Shaniqua, that still doesnt explain your ghetto ass name and why you arent trying to better yourself, tell me what did you name your kids? (please oh please lord tell me they have normal names)

It really gets to me when I hear young kids use the “N” word. I use to use it all the time until I heard one of my sons friends using the word like that was the only word he was ever taught in school. Like the teacher gave him a text book and thats all it said in it. How could I teach my kids not to use the N word or any derogatoy insulting word for that matter if I use it. So I try not to curse as much as I use to amongst other things and I definately dont use the “N” word

@ 6am

Don’t bother? I’ve asked that question ad infinitem, with no response, other than, that i hate black women.

Oh and you damn well shouldnt be out at any clubs looking for the next victim (babydaddy) on the night of the 1st or 15th!

@ 6am

You won’t get a response. I’ve preaced and asked the same questions, but to no avail. In them answering those questions, would compromise their long suffering sista victim dogma routine.

It’s a lot easier for them to blame and hate black men for their poor choices they’ve made in life.

Bebe and Cece come get your nephew!!!!!

@ 6am

You make some good points, but would you not agree that the blame for the state that the black community is in should also be shared with irresponsible men, as well as women? After all, it takes two to tango.

As for myself, I’ve always said, put marriage before the carriage.

WTH, child support DOES include partial rent/mortgage. Why wouldn’t it? The child needs a place to live, why should it be the mothers job solely to provide that.

Living off of $4,500….that’s not a lot of money! That’s the moms fault though, she should have a job and the child support check shouldn’t be her only source of income.

Mario is still dead wrong for not seeing his child and if he was ordered to pay $4,500, then he should just pay up. Case closed.

Maybe next time they’ll invest in condoms.

@ Marquis

Some men also hate women for the poor choices they’ve made in life, which could lead to them owing child support, etc. The pathological thinking goes both ways, and the blame game is wrong whether it is perpetuated by a man or a woman.

Mar 10, 2008 – 8:11 am SBM loves the Lakers

Why Chicago?? Thats why its good to be homeless in Florida or California…Weather is easy to predict…

Hot and it might rain

***********DEAD***************

@Marquis de Sade & 6am

We just have to better educate our shortys, boys and girls so that we are not contributing to raising welfare women and dead beat daddies

@ Sydney

I’ve went over this a while ago:

Marquis de Sade

@ GHB

I reiterate GHB. We as men don’t get pregnant. Women do…And since women carry the responsibility of child birth, logically it would be in their best interest to make sure it’s with someone that they’re not only married to, but shares their values and philosophy regarding shared parenthood. It’s not rocket science, it’s good ol’ fashioned common sense. Just because you women meets some stud at the club and after exchanging a few drunken pleasantries resulting in unprotected sex, doesn’t mean that said stud is willing to stick around to play husband/father…Especially if said stud is barely employed, undereducated with the earning potential of a McDonald’s french fry cook. There are over 13 forms of birth control for the woman and only two for men: Abstinance or the Condom. Ironically the condom is the least effective contraceptive on the market, due to breakage, slippage or leaking, and all the feminist logic in the world is not going to change that reality.

Mar 3, 2008 – 12:11 am lovely and amazing

@ Marquis de Sade

Speak.

@ Sisters

Do you want brothers to tell you the truth or what you want to hear or what you want to be true? Here you have the truth and it’s not debatable don’t say oh he doesn’t really mean that and get pregnant anyway. If you do that, then that baby is your baby.

I’m so grateful my husband and I know the truth to pass on to our daughter and son.

Sisters, stop the nonsense cycle of denial, victim pathology, and passive-agressive entrapment please. There are children’s lives at stake!

@ Marquis de Sade

But you keep presenting the same, flawed one-sided argument. Would you not agree that both parties in a dysfunctional relationship are at fault? I’m not saying women aren’t to blame for their actions, but let’s be rational here — men should be accountable as well. We all have a shared responsibility.

@ Marquis de Sade

And I say again that your personal experiences with this issue have colored your opinions, and that’s something that requires self-examination, not finger-pointing or denigration.

@ Sydney

Whether you women want to own up to it or not, you pretty much control the situation when it comes to bringing a child into this world.

Blacks comprise only 12 percent of the nation, yet 37.2 % of welfare recipients are black…………………………………………….

@ 6am

Yes, I agree that women should demand that men use protection (either that or abstain from sex — the only 100% protection from pregnancy and STDs), and I agree that a number of women are making the wrong choice in men they choose to lie down with. I think we have a cycle of dysfunction at play — we now have a majority of black households with no fathers in place, so there are girls growing up without the example of being in a two-parent household, and there are boys who lack the modeling to know how to be husbands and fathers. I had a father at home who taught me everything you just stated, but not everyone has that (nor does everyone have a mother who could teach them these lessons as well).

I’m just saying that this is not a black-and-white problem, or a female-only, male-only issue, we all share the blame in this, and we have to work together to fix it.

I’ll bite.

There ARE females like 6am talks about.

There are ALSO trifling males out there who fit into their own deplorable situations of perpetual expendability in society.

There are WOMEN, like myself, and others who are educated, with their jobs, own houses, cars, private possessions and property, even own businesses WITHOUT the aid of child support checks or money from men. There are WOMEN who do not use babies as monthly pay checks, but their skills in education and the workforce to get their grip.

There ARE MEN, educated, with their jobs, own houses, cars, private possessions and property, even own businesses; who will be MEN; marry the women they love, and raise their children with that woman (Barack Obama; Will Smith). If not married, there are MEN who will raise all their kids without the pressure of the child support courts or dubious baby others.

The bottomline is: You know who you are; so, the explanation to that effect is useless.

When was the last time Mario had a hit? I would have to assume the house he’s living in and his expenses are being supplemented by his family The Winans. If this woman was so concerned about the welfare of her child, why does’nt she relinquish custody to Mario?..Or is she using their child as a bartering tool to extort an unreasonable amount of child support so she can continue to live the lifestyle that she was accustomed to while they were together.

Celeb or not or just a wannabe … people have got to be more responsible when they decide to be sexually involve!!!! The courts need to make him pay –within reason– even if he needs to get another JOB!!!

@Whatchaknoaboutdat?

Celeb or not or just a wannabe … people have got to be more responsible when they decide to be sexually involve!!!! The courts need to make him pay –within reason– even if he needs to get another JOB!!!

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Or get the law involved.

M-daddy, the law is already involved, thats why their babydaddies are in jail!

I personally don’t subscribe to that “IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD” b.s. That’s just another code for enabling or welfare.

@Its6amHogetOut

M-daddy, the law is already involved, thats why their babydaddies are in jail!

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Point well taken

@ 6am

Not necessarily. Most of them are booted out within a week or so, due to overcrowding to accomodate more hardened criminals. Now they just use Wage garnishments and revoked drivers licenses.

F*ck him because dead beat Dad’s like him make it hard for the guy’s that want to do right to have to pay more.

AND

F*ck her because a lot of these b*tches just want the money and don’t care about the kids.

@ 6am

It’s the system. That’s why i feel the responsibility, ultimately lies with the female in regards to breeding with a loser. I got into a debate with someone else, who had a friend in a 5 year relationship that resulted in a child out of wedlock after which she had to chase him down for child support. She claimed that he wasn’t like that when they met, but you know and i know that the signs were there that he was probably not father material. She just chose to ignore the signs, thus suffering the consequences.

@ 6am

You’re right, you can’t save everyone, but if you break through to one person, you can make a difference, and I’m speaking for myself as well. Also, it sounds like you’re a brother on his grind, and you could be a great mentor to a boy or girl, if you’re not doing so already. I also need to do more mentoring myself, instead of just talking the talk.

Also, I don’t have any children, but I’ve made many relationship mistakes myself, and you’re right, there were always signs that I chose to ignore. Hopefully, I’ve gotten wiser with age.

@SMDH

Why would you, in your most ignorant hallucination think my son’s father was a deadbeat? See, it’s people like you, who are so pathetically simple that preclude everyone’s ability to have an intelligent dialogue.

Whether you believe the facts of my history or not is your choice. The sun will still rise come morning. The moral of the story is to not depend on anyone anything. See, money from him tied me to him and I didn’t want that. Why would I want to have anything to do with him after HE DIVORCED ME? I made up my mind that if he wanted to have a relationship with our son, then he could free from my interference, this way, excuses are null and void. Actually, their relationship is quite good. Sorry, if that message wasn’t conveyed before. I didn’t know I have to tell EVERYTHING!!!

@MDaddy and Luvchild.

I walked away with nothing. Not even a car he bought for me in happier times; and I wasn’t employed. I moved in with a friend. She and I were both struggling. My brother would send me money when he could and I would use it to look for employment, buy groceries and give my friend some.

However, within a year and a half, I had a three bedroom 2 bath condo, a new car and money in the bank.

It was by the Grace of God that I could keep my mind together and focus on the things that were important. Checking on my ex and his new life with his new woman seemed like a waste to me then and now.

I’m not saying don’t pursue child support, I’m stressing pursue your own stability and happiness. It’s worth it!

Well, well, she finally did it! I always knew she was crazy. FIrst of all, she was never his girlfriend (I know them both). Secondly, she forced herself on him, no lie. She flew to where he was on two occassions (paid for her own tickets), just so she could set him up. SHe knew what she was doing, thought she could get some money out of it and it backfired. I’d wouldn’t be surprised if they never even hooked up.

No matter what y’all think about “Bad Boy Mario”, he is truly a great father to HIS children and He loves his wife. Who by the way, is a classy, beautiful lady. WHy would he mess with some trash like this!

I’m a single mother with no support from my X. You don’t see me being homeless and blaming my X for no support. Get your butt out there and get a job Biaaach! I knew you were a phsycho!

@ PrettiinRed

That’s all well and good, but sounds like you put your pride and happiness before the welfare of yours and his child. You should’ve accepted the child support that the kid was entitled to. I’m a firm believer in loving the child more than you hate your ex.

@6am, I feel you.

@marquis

I’m not saying my ex never gave. As a matter of fact, he gave and gave quite often, and he continues to give to his son. Not to me. I did not want anything to do with him. I didn’t need it.

It wasn’t pride. There’s no pride to be had when children are involved. My ex is a well respected member of the community. He could afford anything we needed. He tended to and he tends to his child. He was no longer financially responsible for me. As a consequence, I had to learn to fend for myself and I must say, I was good student.

@Marquis de Sade

There are plenty of those cases but there are also a ton of cases where the women just want to use support in a way to punish the men even the good ones.

@ Coop

Yeah i know. It happen to my brother a while back. He was paying child support and med. ins. for one of his baby mothers without any interference from the legal system, until said mother asked for more money due to mismanaging the agreed upon amount on having her hair done and some new duds to go out with her gfs. My brother balked and told her know and demand from that day forth that he would personally handle the expenses in regards to the child they had together. She got pissed and reported him to the child welfare services, accusing him of non-payment of child support. My brother, being an idiot by paying her cash instead of a cashier check, thus creating a papertrail, didn’t have a leg to stand on while appearing before the judge, who subsequently put his earnings in arrears for 7 years of non-payment of child support.

Ooops sorry for the typos. I’m multitasking at work.

*He told her no and demanded from that day forth*

Women who have real hair dont need to visit “weaves r us” or the “weave repair shop” every two weeks.

oh?? i heard she has get alone with him on the site-interracialmatch.com/photo/blackchats isn’t?

M de S said: If this woman was so concerned about the welfare of her child, why does’nt she relinquish custody to Mario?..Or is she using their child as a bartering tool to extort an unreasonable amount of child support so she can continue to live the lifestyle that she was accustomed to while they were together.

-Can someone please answer that? You love your baby so much that you have him on the streets with you homeless, sleeping on couches with no boots in the winter, rather than relinquishing your dreams of a big payday and giving him to the father? Does she really love that child then?

deadbeat?

@NYC Chic

You’re 100% on the money.

I feel bad for that poor kid. Neither one of his parents seems to care about putting him first … The dad says the mom’s whatever but then y was he with her for so long before the baby came along

cassidy damn she could get the business easily.

thats why DEADBEAT women like these need to stay in school, go to college and get a well paying job to take care of they kids, and stop having to rely on these deadbeat niggers who never pay no child support. SMH

Um it doesn’t matter if the mother works or not. The point is the man is STILL equally accountable to the child. It is wrong wrong wrong for the mother to bear the burden all alone. Not just financially but emotionally it isn’t fair to the child or the mother. Yes of course the mother should be able to support herself and the child. That plan should be in place at all times because you never know what is going to happen and you do noe ever want to be completely dependant on anyone. How ever the father is accountable ALWAYS to his child no matter what!

I meant not in sentence 4, sorry!

That is not right. He needs to be a man and take care of his child.

Woemn who keep going to court should have to show how much they contribute to their child. They should not be allowed to get more money without first showing how much more they are providing. A man should not have to pay for child support , if his name is not on the birth certifictae signed by him and if he has not taken a paternity test. The court should have to provide paternity test if they are gonna really try to provide the correct support for a child. A lot of women are depserate.

I also think men who have more than 1 baby momma are nasty and trifling. No sense of family unit and wanting to establish something that his been stolen from black culture since slavery days.

Whats up m daddy… I feel you on your views, i have a family member who takes care of his daughter by the mama and he also has her daughter by another guy, and the kids love the heck out of him. keep it strong boo!

@ Marquis de Sade

Your brother has eight children by four different women? Not only did he not get the lesson, he didn’t want to learn. Reckless behavior comes in both genders, and, as they say, like attracts like.

@ 6am

I would add to your list that bookstores, museums, cultural events, and the like are other quality places to meet people. I did meet one of my boyfriends in the gym, and he turned out to be a complete jerk, though, lol.

Wait…does this bony heffa have on a sanitary napkin or are those just her hollow pubic bones? How she squeeze a baby out of that river of sticks? She pretty though…but she needs to eat…some beenie weenie and some cornbread

something’s not right with that story. maybe paternity hasn’t been established. someone in her situation ought to get lawyered up and have court ordered support with a quickness.

if he is the dad, hopefully he will do right by the child.

Um!!! so sad you’ll heal. Next

It is really disgraceful how some of these people on this site are labeling these people names such as b**ch, h**, and the ni***. This is innapropriate and ignorant. If you don’t have anything intellectual to add you should keep your igrorance to your self.

The woman is supporting her self by working as a cocktail waitress in Chicago. It is harsh and mean spirited to hurl insults at a woman in a bad situation. I don’t know any waitress who sits on her butt. Many uneducated women have babies out of wedlock in all races. This is a problem in the human race as a whole. Being married or single never determined how well you will raise a child. A Husband or ex beau can shirk their responsibility in rearing their children. It is the children who suffer in these unfortunate chain of events. She has a court order for 4500 a month in which he is in arrears. She should take him back to court for violating the order.

It is insane to say the cusodial parent should not depend on financial assistance from the childs father. It is abusive to state that he should seek custody of a child he only seen once to avoid paying support. It is parents reposiblity to support their children financially, mentally, emotionally, and spirtitually. We all are imperfect and make mistakes as humans and parents. One parent should never shoulder this reponsibility alone.

My problem with this young lady is that she sounds like she doesn’t want to work. There are plenty of monthers who are not getting support and are working their hardest to support their children. I’m not saying that he’s a saint. He does need to pay his support. It’s very sad when mothers don’t want to work and depend on these so called super star men to take care of them. Get a job and take care of your child lady.

Um, why is the child support what is allowing her to have shelter? I mean really! She should not have to rely on child support for the basics…

Mario’s babby’s mama should just forget about Mario one hit wonder ass and get a job at a high end strip club, hell since she slept with Mario

go for it! But do it drug and alcohol free and hon you’ll make massive tips!

The welfare program is still in effect, but welfare recipients can only recieve welfare pay ments for 5 years and after the welfare fades out then one gets into the CAL WORKS program.

Hello you guys, all babby mommas aren’t Black,

there are some white babby mommas that milk Black guys for money too. Remember Shaq’s white babby’s momma she took him to court for child support!

This a word of advice to Jane bennett, all hope is not lost don’t give up on your self and your son, keep your head up! But in my opinion you should drop the paternity court case concerning the money. Of course you can read the previous post.

There are so many options out there for you, just do some research.

Opps, sorry I meant Janel,

Mario sucks, bar none ! He just tied the knot with his current wife: Well it was either that or get shot up by her violent little brother, so he had no choice but to get married and he left Janel and her son. Simple as that.

Hello every one !

Mario’s wife should leave him, he’ll do it again !

Yes Kathy, you are right about Janelle possibly setting Mario up (I don’t know for sure if this event occured in this order but I’m not far off !)

This what happened: Janelle schemed her way down to where Mario was performing, some how she captured his eye… to be continued

What’s up !

MARIO LOOVES TO HUMP HOOCHIES !

Why would Mario mess with trash like this?

here’s your answer, Just examine the jump suit he’s wearing that’s your proof.

Janelle poked holes in the condoms, I bet.

Kealoa, as I explained in the previous message posts, Janelle isn’t a nun. However, Mario screwed up when he slept with her so both parties are guilty.

Speaking of baby momma drama, Beyonce and Jay’z got hitched, but B shouldn’t get too comfy you know all Jay’s Baby mommas’ will be coming out of the wood work, oh yeah ! And she’ll be probably footing the bill on the child support like Kelis is for Nas, think about that.

this chic is a clown. he obviously doesnt want you or the kid – keep it moving skank – trash

yeah cassie has serious camel toe! ewwww

I remember this trick ass hoe! she used to be one of diddys chicks!she worked for him alright! on her knees! then mario must have got in line! RIO!! say it aint so!! janel bennett? from cali? trick ass drug hoe janel? she used to feed the whole crew drugs! didnt she f with lil cease too?

I’m not saying that he shouldn’t pay child support, BUT if YOUR SON needs boots – GET A F**IN JOB AND BUY HIM BOOTS!!! Why do these women say things like they lost their apartment or they lost their home because someone didn’t pay child support? Child support is CHILD SUPPORT NOT PARENT SUPPORT!!! You have to step up and take care of your child yourself. Anything the man does should be EXTRA if the two of you aren’t together! Millions of mothers go out and work everyday. This chick can do the exact same thing. If she is stupid enough to sit home and not get a job and end up getting evicted because she didn’t want to go get a real job, then so be it! I’m not saying that he shouldn’t pay his support – because he should, but you can’t sit home and be stupid while you lose everything!