Jim Crow Celeb Mags
Posted by Bossip Staff
The NY Post asks if the celebrity media is racist. We wonder, how can they pose a question to such an obvious fact?:
A top tabloid [says] that Jay-Z and Beyoncé’s wedding was played down by the weeklies because “African-Americans don’t sell covers.”
Of the big five celebrity glossies out midweek, only Us Weekly gave Beyoncé the top spot on the cover. Other magazines gave her second billing to the likes of Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez and Jennifer Aniston.
Even wedding photos make less money for black stars, says another source. “Eva Longoria can get $1 million for wedding photos, but without the expectation of cover sales, Beyoncé might have gotten as little as $250,000 if she had sold hers,” says a top editor.
We are sick of their racist bullsh*t. The fact that Beyonce and Jay-Z’s nuptials played second fiddle to that hapless stank heffah Britney Spears is ridiculous, but to get secong billing to that “Witch Hagar” looking washed up has-been Jennifer Aniston is just offensive.
We advise Jay-Z and Bey not sell one wedding pic to any of those racist-ass trash trailing mags unless it’s for top dollar – maybe they shouldn’t even sell them at all. Discuss
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Ms. Sugar Walls
4/11/08, 09:02:am
FIRST *****ESSSSSSSSSSS
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:02:am
First *****
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:02:am
Aww damn the weed head got me
swoosh
4/11/08, 09:03:am
top 10
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:04:am
O and to comment on the post thats why black folks should just deal with essence jet and ebony… forget the white mags… I dont buy that ***** no way
Insatiable_qt
4/11/08, 09:04:am
Jay-Z and Beyonce are married? WHAT? WHEN? LOL
Ms. Sugar Walls
4/11/08, 09:05:am
LOL
I guess all that bull*****…that they feed you about smoking weed…isn;t true..or that your wrist is too fat to move like mine. Don’t be mad..move faster..drink slim fast etc
anyway…
OK..I am going to have to stop you *****ip..when it comes to my girl Britney..I don’t think that I have ever heard her say one racist thing about Black people..So crush that *****…she is doing cool..DO IT BIG BRITNEY!
NOW..J-HO, and all the rest of those *****es..EFF THEM! I am with you one hundred percent.
justme
4/11/08, 09:06:am
OMG get this dating site bull ish outa here!!!!^^^^
if they do choose to sell they should only cell to a good Magazine like People, since they were the first to announce the wedding license stuff
Mahogany
4/11/08, 09:06:am
Boo-ssip knows they don’t care about them getting the cover of anything!
Quit perpetrating!
I had to bring back a 90’s quote 4 this 1!
dubya
4/11/08, 09:07:am
This should be filed under “who cares” because meanwhile, education disparity is at an all-time high and we are getting ready to graduate a group of african american high school seniors where low SATs and GPAs and skills are at an all time high.
Mz_Magnificent1
4/11/08, 09:08:am
Oh Jigga is already all over the racist media…I was actually reading his last interview with XXL and he touched on the topic of racism in the media.
I hope they sell their photos to Essence mag…that would be a goodlook.
Mahogany
4/11/08, 09:08:am
rena is relentless!
she’s like our own old ***** ox.
da darkness
4/11/08, 09:08:am
wait wait wait wait, this language is coming from bossip? my eyes are wide. @bossip true
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:10:am
Yeah BRITNEY did make the comment about Beyonce not being able to sing.. But newhoo I say stay away from those non black mags anywayyy.
iluvprada
4/11/08, 09:11:am
It’s *****ody’s business, but theirs! So I say…don’t share a damn thing! They got they own loot!
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:11:am
not necessarily about black people but just beyaki
demita
4/11/08, 09:11:am
i think they should make a small book picture book of their so called wedding and sell it to the people for 50.00. 100.00 for autographs 105.00 to add a pack of bubble gum. house of dereon gum
lil latte
4/11/08, 09:12:am
what does it mean when some one writes *dead* in their comment?
rich*****
4/11/08, 09:12:am
How do they expect to get top dollar for wedding photos when they can’t even confirm themselves that they are married, newsflash to beyonce- *****ody gives a damn
donovan
4/11/08, 09:12:am
Please! If black celebs don’t sell then they don’t sell. That’s not racist that’s just good business. When’s the last time you bought something because Beyonce was on the cover… I’ll wait. Beyonce doesn’t garner any interest into her personal life because she is a press bot, very beauty queen in her approach to the media, not a real person we care about and want to know every detail about. Britney Spears on the other hand let’s it all hang out people are addicted to her private life, so yes she does sell covers, and no beyonce does not.
bree
4/11/08, 09:13:am
you donkeys..Jay & B’s wedding photos will not be sold to any outlet..the only way we will see it is if some1 leaks it
Donald R. King, posting as Bones Jordan
4/11/08, 09:14:am
@ Chawawa in gravatar, lmao or very funny, like when a comedian kills his audience, you get it?
Donald R. King, posting as Bones Jordan
4/11/08, 09:15:am
@ Donovan, VERY GOOD POINT.
@ bree, doubtful, they want that cake just like you and me baby.
justme
4/11/08, 09:15:am
@ donovan
Interesting thoughts, that makes sense
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:15:am
lol you lot are so easy to whined up. They didn’t want anyone up in their buisness
Besides they are boring Jay Z is interesting Bey has been the same since 8 years ago. Nothing new to report there
Peope are getting bored
Southern Belle 225
4/11/08, 09:16:am
Um, I was in Walmart on yesterday and beyonce and Jay-Z were on the cover. Not on the side but huge as hell in the middle. Bossip, please check your facts.
However, I do think that they down play black celebs. But we also don’t buy as many of those mags as our white counter parts so of course they are going to put white folks on the cover. They are trying to make money. DUH! Black people buy the majority of black mags so they mostly put black celebs on the cover. DUH!
SEXY BACKS
4/11/08, 09:16:am
Damn Bossip, what did Jennifer Anniston do to you?
Kompton's Kutie
4/11/08, 09:17:am
Who don’t care about Black folks News?! The media hypes everything up in the first place, so when they do follow Black folks that’s when people will care.
*But at the same time I’m glad they don’t follow Black celebs every single moment, because this way all the White people will continue to look bad.
They don’t realize it but it’s keeping the White people down. And when they mess up for every little thing people lose respect.
Look at Paris, Brittany, Hillary, etc.
T-Bone
4/11/08, 09:18:am
I agree with you….I wouldnt see my ***** to none of those *****s!!!!!
Lady Architect
4/11/08, 09:21:am
donovan,
I agree with you. IF you think about it how long has Jay and Bee been together..6years. The mainstream media can care less about their marriage because they basically lived as if they were married for years and honestly Bey is very overexposed. Not that I agree with Britt being on the cover, but it sells and mags are gonna put out what readers buy so they can make money. Besides that, if they put out the same covers about Bey that they do about Britt than black ppl would be mad saying that they use us for negativity. I say let them make the fools of their own, it doesn’t bother me. These black celebrities need to sell to mags like S2S, jet, essence, ebony, black enterprise, today’s black women, etc. to uplift our own instead of shooting for people because they put in the highest bid just to be on pg 15.
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 09:22:am
At Southern Belle they were on the cover of US Weekly. Normally white stars are on the cover of all them.. When something big happens. But I dont want to see bey or jay either I rather read about it online because in mags when Bey was on the cover in all the mags she always says the samething.. I’d rather read about Alicia, Jurnee and Halle etc
Ms. Sugar Walls
4/11/08, 09:23:am
PRESIDENTIAL
But she didn’t say ***** racist..If she can’t sing to her..that is Her opinion! I think(RIRI) can’t sing, and that is my opinion.
me
4/11/08, 09:23:am
Between this (old photo), and ALL of the Kim K. posts (thought this was a black celebrity blog), I am officially boycotting bossip. Join me, BOYCOTT BOSSIP. It’s the only way to get them to post quality gossip!
BOYCOTT BOSSIP
BOYCOTT BOSSIP
BOYCOTT BOSSIP
BOYCOTT BOSSIP
Now bossip staff who pose as posters, say something f’d up to start a stream of conversation and dumba… arguments….begin now….
jogger
4/11/08, 09:26:am
Isn’t Eva Longoria Mexican and her husband black? Didn’t they have a big castle wedding that they had talked about in interviews months prior and invited other celebs to… Didn’t Jay and B do some undercover small ‘don’t ask don’t tell wedding’?
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:27:am
Exactly theres only show much of that gurl you can see before you have seen it all before and lets face it she doesn’t interest you with her mentality or points of view because she doesn’t pocess such things.
Make her drop on her face though and that will be on the news lol
Kompton's Kutie
4/11/08, 09:28:am
@jogger
True. But even when “the Others” do private, hush hush ceremonies, the media stalk them to try to get a pic.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:30:am
If you put someone on the cover you have to atleast fill two pages of something interesting about them
I don’t enjoy the sound that comes out of rhi or beys mouths and thats my opinion.
The_Truth
4/11/08, 09:31:am
Oh. . .so now Bossip is “Pro Black” after constantly refering to Djomon as AMISTAD and Russell Simmons as BLOOD DIAMOND RUSS and having HO SIT DOWN articles and calling Jay-Z CAMEL.
-You’re no better.
TROPICAL BREEZE
4/11/08, 09:32:am
o common bossip dont say its racist:
its business:
fact is people are more intresting in whats going on in britney’s life, than jay-z and beyonce marriage, so what they are married….there is really nothing new going on in beyonce and jay-z life they just boring …..but britney… ***** everyday is pure excitiment, something new at all time …so people are more intresting in buying those magazine …i am black person and to tell the truth i prefer to buy a magazine with britney, or jennifer aniston on the cover over beyonce and jay-z anytime ……
demita
4/11/08, 09:33:am
jay-bey may have put it all an video cam to keep for the chilluns when they come
Taj
4/11/08, 09:34:am
DONOVAN makes a very good point. People want to feel as if they can empathize with celebrities who are going through things. Beyonce’s personality comes across as somewhat “mechanical”, and not necessarily genuine.
IF they choose to never show their wedding photos, good for them. You have to have something sacred and private in your life that is your very own.
Shavon Denise
4/11/08, 09:34:am
I have been saying that about magazines and Hollywood in general forever. Look at the landscape of America though, they’re going to cater to the majority and to who they feel are the most important. Thats why you dont hear about Raven Simone, who is worth $300 mil, but you hear about that talentLESS Hanna Montana. TRAGIC
TROPICAL BREEZE
4/11/08, 09:35:am
@ TAJ AND DONOVAN
GOOD POINT
pm
4/11/08, 09:35:am
They are not hard up for money if they have an ego problem do like Oprah and make your own mag and put your face all over it.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:36:am
@ torpical breeze- pleasant name
I agree
valenne
4/11/08, 09:36:am
again,
there are only 12 % of black people in this country. 36 millions of black and more than 170 Millions of White, why the media should focus on Black! We are a minority, if they ever have to put a black person on the cover, they are also going to put a white person. Just like Lebron james and Gisele.
Woman like Eva longoria or Jlo or even Beyonce in a way have been adopted by White America because they could p***** for white woman!But you would not see Mary J blige on a cover of a white magazine!
Think About It
4/11/08, 09:37:am
The world does have racist people in it…but I don’t think that the price your pics sell for is racist. I think that J Lo or Angelina Jolie on a cover will sell more than Beyonce. Beyonce looks better than both…but statistically in the USA…there are less black people to buy the magazine that white people. With people like J lo…spanish people are very loyal and will buy the magazine because of that. I don’t see many black people reading things like People Magazine. We read Essence and Black Enterprise.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:37:am
Lets face it Jay is not photogentic. It’s hard to see that close up and no expression he pulls helps.
valenne
4/11/08, 09:38:am
In the case of beyonce wedding, i really don’t think that the media were trying to cover it because we had pictures of invitees, flowers, etc… so it is not like they did not care AT ALL!
Plus i see Beyonce on a cover of People magazine i think yesterday so i am not sure all this debate should include Beyonce!
intenzemocha
4/11/08, 09:38:am
This was posted to spark a racial debate-nothing to debate blacks already know that we are considered second-cl***** citizens what else is new? the only time we matter is when we are making someone else rich-
demita
4/11/08, 09:38:am
i need a f’kin good ***** blunt and my man’s big fat hard ***** d’ck
valenne
4/11/08, 09:38:am
i mean, the media was trying to cover this event cause they were talking about it on TV too during the news!!!
STEFANY
4/11/08, 09:39:am
WHY SHOULD THEY GET ANY DAMN PRESS WHEN THEY WON’T EVEN ADMIT THAT THEY’RE MARRIED…I THINK ALL MAGAZINES SHOULD JUST IGNORE THE HELL OUT OF THESE TWO.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:41:am
Angelina is beautiful even when pregnant, without make up it’s her bone structure!Her height her poise Oh and even travelling around the world with kids saving other kids she looks good.
I beg to differ
AZShakur
4/11/08, 09:41:am
I’m actually happy not to see a black celeb on one of those white mags. The only time they put one of us on the cover is b/c we’ve *****ed up. They don’t want to promote the fact that a black couple actually got married. But Brittany on the other hand is a derailed train running wild off of the tracks. The reason everyone is interested is b/c they are waiting on the crash. Everyone loves to see a train wreck.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:43:am
Yeeeeah ignore them. Ha ha that would freak them out lol
Lauren
4/11/08, 09:44:am
Who cares? Racism will never end black people, its hidden and its obvious and we know it, stop crying about it and move on….. NEXT!
HIPHOPUCITdotcom
4/11/08, 09:44:am
That is beyond ridiculous, I would suggest that they didnt sell them at all and Give them to some black publications which support them!
TROPICAL BREEZE
4/11/08, 09:44:am
@ Don’t mind me
awe! thank you
i agree with you
love angelina 2
Darth Paul
4/11/08, 09:46:am
Don’t buy those magazines, then. Easy as that.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 09:47:am
Look @ what she is doing- others should be ashamed of themselves. She is out their in Africa in the heat making a difference. Give credit where credit is due.
Lauren
4/11/08, 09:47:am
@ Southern Belle-
However, I do think that they down play black
celebs. But we also don’t buy as many of those mags as our white counter parts so of course they are going to put white folks on the cover. They are trying to make money. DUH! Black people buy the majority of black mags so they mostly put black celebs on the cover. DUH!
—————————————————-
Thank you ma! thats excatly what I’m sayin, like aren’t they selling to the COLOR of the majority of the people who buy those mags….I mean I might pick one up in the library but I’m NOT going to PURCHASE it! lol….
justme
4/11/08, 09:48:am
@Shavon Denise
u make a good point lol at the hanna montana joke
and
@Valene u said it, i could never see MJB on the cover of Us weekly, its just the truth a shame buth still the truth
Reality
4/11/08, 09:48:am
yall r missing the point…its not about bey and jay its about how alot of things go on in the black commmunity but the media mags who are supposed to report on any race celebrity is not giving black celebrities the time of day…but they will give other minorities such as mexican or hispanics the time of day…some ppl just cant realize mainstream society will always treat blacks like second cl***** citizens…we dont get paid as much as they do even if we work the same job for the same company…and blacks should boycott mainstream mags
Lauren
4/11/08, 09:49:am
WHAT ABOUT
ESSENCE OR EBONY OR JET….SELL YOUR STUFF TO THEM! DON’T GIVE IT TO MONEY HUNGRY US WEEKLY OR TRASHY AS OK MAG…!
DH
4/11/08, 09:52:am
They shouldn’t even worry about it…They should keep making their money, gaining power to make changes, & living their lives. Then they should make the necessary changes to prevent much of this segregation from happening. We also need to reach a day where you don’t have to cross over to certain media outlets to be considered mainstream.
Annie
4/11/08, 09:54:am
Get uou mind right. It is the NY DAILY NEWS NOT THE NY POST. Get it together, Bossip.
Lauren
4/11/08, 09:54:am
Black people need to support black people, I mean Diddy ***** was crying because the white mags didn’t put his twins on their cover but ESSENCE had a whole 4 page spread of them, and they don’t get any recognition….SMDH!!
lil latte
4/11/08, 09:54:am
You can’t beat racism by be a racist yourself…
Annie
4/11/08, 09:54:am
*Get your mind right.
Sybil Blaize
4/11/08, 09:55:am
Yup mos def racism. Beyonce is a mega star! iif this was some other black couple hm forget iit they wouldnt of even got mention in the mags! Sad but true
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jahrasta
4/11/08, 09:56:am
everybody is racist
not only white people
black are even more racist than white
blacks are even racist against their own self
we complain too much has a race ….and blame everything that goes wrong in our lives on
white folks …comom lets move the ***** on
Lucy (the other one)
4/11/08, 09:56:am
STEFANY
WHY SHOULD THEY GET ANY DAMN PRESS WHEN THEY WON’T EVEN ADMIT THAT THEY’RE MARRIED…I THINK ALL MAGAZINES SHOULD JUST IGNORE THE HELL OUT OF THESE TWO.
I agree Stefany. Most posters here kept saying it they want privacy then its their business, yet now that bossip has brought up the fact that they are not being covered by the rags its racist.
I personally don’t believe their married (thats me). The other celebs that wanted private weddings didnt keep their union a secret they just didnt want the media at the service still everyone knew of the wedding. These two want to play hide and seek and it could just bite them in the *****. God I hope.
Donald R. King, posting as Bones Jordan
4/11/08, 09:57:am
@ Negrodamus, you need your own blog or show my dude. I will pay you to write, no bull*****. Call me if interested. PLEASE POST BACK, NO BULL*****.
Lady Architect
4/11/08, 09:58:am
valenne,
I agree about you saying that Beyonce, Eva, and Jlo get on those covers because they are close to white looking at times. If you ever notice when Jlo had that dark black hair she didn’t much media attention until she lighten that hair up and was wearing blonde. Beyonce you will never catch her on a cover with dark hair and the same with Eva or even Tyra. All of these stars of course look better with their natural darker hair IMO but they adopt the Eurpoean straight blonde hair so must really wanna be in these white mags. Either way they are not doing much sales and People will notice that with this new cover and they will probably premier a new cover immediately.
you know
4/11/08, 09:58:am
The_Truth
Oh. . .so now Bossip is “Pro Black” after constantly refering to Djomon as AMISTAD and Russell Simmons as BLOOD DIAMOND RUSS and having HO SIT DOWN articles and calling Jay-Z CAMEL.
-You’re no better.
Thank you^^^^ They even had a Ho Sit Down above Dr. Angelou. Pot have you met kettle??
miss j
4/11/08, 09:58:am
i think white people are just doing there thing! i mean its not like we have them all up in jet, essense, gospel today, sister2sister,…… the list goes on and on! they can’t have Ivory, or white interprise, or white people magazine, cuz that would raise hell! their just quietly doing what we are doing selling magazines to their own kind! its just that simple
keliss
4/11/08, 10:00:am
Jay and Bee are not on the cover because they are not giving out any info. Their inner circle of family and friends aren’t revealing either. (Note to self, choosing your inner circle is very important.) Only bits and pieces have been allowed to leak. I’m sure they choose them theirselves. Trust if they wanted too, the could have any mag they want writing about their wedding. They choose not too. Beyonce has graced the cover of almost every white magazine possible. So, she is definitely accepted by mainstream media. Beyonce and Jay don’t frequent tabloids because the are hardworking, successful, rich, black folks that are not doing crazy things like Britney! Let Britney keep the tabloids. Jay and Bee are too distinguished.
you know
4/11/08, 10:00:am
jahrasta
everybody is racist
not only white people
black are even more racist than white
blacks are even racist against their own self
we complain too much has a race ….and blame everything that goes wrong in our lives on
white folks …comom lets move the ***** on
Agreed^^^^^with most
Annie
4/11/08, 10:01:am
Jogger,
I co-sign what you said. Eva Longoria was talking about getting engaged, the marriage, and everything for a while. That built up interest. They flew out to France. They were not together for SIX years. There is no comparison. Beyonce and Jay-Z refuse to confirm that they are married. They had tight security. When they were about to get married EVERY media outlet was reporting on it. Did you forget that PEREZ HILTON was the first to scoop the marriage? People magazine covered the details up until Friday. However, NO ONE has any photos or enough info to make a full (and interesting) story out it. If there are no photos, I don’t care about it.
Lauren
4/11/08, 10:02:am
Dijimon WAS Amistad, Russell Simmons DOES wear BLOOD DIAMONDS Jay-Z DOES look like Joe Camel…
There IS truth to all of that.
Lady Architect
4/11/08, 10:04:am
I think black people should stop caring about people mag, ok mag, star, etc and subscribe to black enterprise, today’s black women, etc. so we can lift ourselves up instead of looking for the quickest gossip news.
you know
4/11/08, 10:04:am
miss j
i think white people are just doing there thing! i mean its not like we have them all up in jet, essense, gospel today, sister2sister,…… the list goes on and on! they can’t have Ivory, or white interprise, or white people magazine, cuz that would raise hell! their just quietly doing what we are doing selling magazines to their own kind! its just that simple
I agree and dont even think white people are seeing race. They are seeing dollar signs. They don’t give a damn who the person is. They are just trying to make a buck. It just so happens that minorities are the easiest to get bought out so quickly where as non ethnic celebs will deal better. Also for the most part we don’t do crazy ***** like brittney, paris, and lilo. There is no money is watching us. They was bizaree nasty ***** and black folks in general don’t do that. The crazy ish we do is usually chalked up to “that’s how blacks are” and applied to everyone, i.e. every black man is a robber, gang banger, basketball or football star and every black woman wants rough sex, has at least 3 kids, and a bad attitude.
I'm Just Me
4/11/08, 10:05:am
@ Laruen…True….True!!!
I HOPE THEY DON’T SELL THERE PICS….IT WASN’T A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THEY KEPT IT UNDER WRAPS..WHATEVER!!
Lovely One
4/11/08, 10:06:am
Yall, some black entertainers have transcended and are not only accepted by EVERYONE, including whites. I find it very hard to believe that white people would not want to know about Beyonce’s wedding. I think the cover would sell. What’s next, is Halle gonna be offered $250K for her baby pic? I think NOT!
Lovely One
4/11/08, 10:07:am
CORRECTED VERSION: Yall, some black entertainers have transcended and are accepted by EVERYONE, including whites
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:08:am
TGIF! How is everyone on this beautiful and blessed morning??? My manager has already agreed to close the office a 2:00 est today so I will be off in a matter of hours. This is the best job ever! Puerto Rico here I come!!!!
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:09:am
Nothing about Beyonce and Jay Z are distinguished.. Beyonce is a robot she has no personality her only personality is Sasha when she is on stage. Besides that I have never heard her speak like Alicia, Rhianna, Jennifer H and even Kelly or Michelle.. I mean I have never heard her opinion about anything in all of her years on being in the public eye. She seems to give simple answers whenever she does magazine interviews. I mean besides being worth 54 million dollars who is this woman. Besides a go getter of money.
Lovely One
4/11/08, 10:10:am
I dont know if its racist or not. Perhaps since Tameka & Usher couldnt get broke off for thier baby pics. But I still think Halle & Bey would sell.
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:10:am
JSABP I need your job are they a hiring??
SEXY BACKS
4/11/08, 10:11:am
These mags will probably feature Jay and Bey next week or something coz even white people know who Beyonce is. I remember being super shocked to see Diddy’s twins on the cover of OK or Hello when they were just born, I don’t remeber which one.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:13:am
And the news here is what?!?! We all know that Hollyweird and the entertainment industry, including media, isn’t a level playing field.
@imposter…wow, did you get a memo that I apparently missed? I wish I was off in a couple of hours…and Puerto Rico is next weekend, since I know you’ll join me in counting down the days!!
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:14:am
@He’s Presiential
We actually have a position available in one of our smaller advertising departments, but I am not certain where you are geographically located. The jobs entails a significant amount of travel as well if that is of interest to you!
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:14:am
@Presidential, the previous poster was my early morning Cujo!
serene
4/11/08, 10:14:am
i agree w/ donovan
they been walking around like king n queen for years, plus they not eveb interesting. Bey is overexposed, and lacks personality to me.
anyways, bey wishes she was born latina…..so whateva
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:15:am
It was Hello.. But I’d rather see it in Essence or Ebony. Do a Michael go straight to the black mags.. I only read those mags when I’m about to check out I make sure I go to a long line and read that ish for free99
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:16:am
Oh is that the same girl who is from France or something. Who is like a college student.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:16:am
Oh lawd! Here we go again. I swear I do not pretend to be myself(I just happen to always be here when the fake me is around,THINK ABOUT IT)
Lauren
4/11/08, 10:17:am
I’m Just Me
@ Laruen…True….True!!!
I HOPE THEY DON’T SELL THERE PICS….IT WASN’T A BIG DEAL BECAUSE THEY KEPT IT UNDER WRAPS..WHATEVER!!
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Exactly! They don’t want anyone seeing pics so why does it matter, I hate when people dig up dumb stuff for NO REASON whatsoever, I mean did Bey TRY to sell her wedding pics NO! So whats the fuss about?
Jojo
4/11/08, 10:19:am
Were there not paparazzi camped out in front of Jay Z’s pad all day and night? Did Jay and B not do everything they could to make sure that the paps did NOT get a shot of them? It’s true, black covers don’t sell as well…but I think it’s because there are more white people than black people actually buying those mags!
Is Ebony going to put Britney Spears on their cover?? NO!! And would it sell? HELL NO.
valenne
4/11/08, 10:20:am
i think we still need nea magazine!
It s just a question of representation. We don’t have the same needs in term of hair, skin care, we don’t have the same taste in term of foods etc..,
we don’t have the same issues so i don’t see the big deal. I can sometimes buy a “white magazine” but it s more for FASHION!
Tonia Johnson
4/11/08, 10:21:am
Why is everyone so worried what Jay and Bee would have gotten for wedding pics, when there not even admitting to being married.. And why is it such a big deal?? They don’t want you to know, so why would you want to know?? but bet they want you to buy ther music and watch there movies though.. so over the both of them.. don’t want to hear anything else about this mystery wedding, upcoming records, or movies… move on with life, without those two… Camel face and horse breath… take that take that
valenne
4/11/08, 10:21:am
*we need more magazines!
keliss
4/11/08, 10:23:am
Everything about Beyonce is distinguished. She has dined with Presidents, Kings, Queens,and Princes. She has collaborated with legends like Stevie Wonder, Luther Vandross, Bono, Tina Turner, to name a few. She has traveled the world over and have done things that few have done. She covered Sports Illustrated, Harpers Bazaar, Glamour, Better Homes and Garden, Vanity Fair, Elle, Seventeen,GQ, Spin, Ebony, Essence, Jet, Giant,Marie Claire, FHM, Maxim, Blender, Rollingstone, Self to name a few.
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:23:am
But I do like the way Ashlee Simpson and Pete Weinz announced their engagement to their fans.. I mean some people just say eff it tell him. They’ll shut up about rather than speculate.
ella
4/11/08, 10:26:am
Who are the most racist people on earth toward one another?
just saying
4/11/08, 10:26:am
@ RICH***** I AGREE THEY WON’T EVEN CONFIRM IT, THEY ARE SO STUPID AND YESTERDAY NOONE EVEN CARES BEYONCE,I HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN, AND I STILL AIN’T , WHY WOULDN’T YOU AT LEAST ADDRESS YOUR FANS WHO STAN FOR YOU DAILY AND LET THEM KNOW, SHE DON’T CARE TWO CENTS BOUT THAT UNLIKE MARY OR HELL EVEN ASHLEY AND PETE, PRIVACY IS ONE THING, BUT DAMN YOU WANTS TO HIDE THEIR MARRIED, THAT DON’T MEAN YOU HAVE TO DETAIL YOUR INTIMATE MOMENTS SHE CHOOSE THIS LIFE SO SHE SHOULD DEAL WITH IT!
valenne
4/11/08, 10:27:am
How hispanics are p*****ing black people?!!
Sweet & S*****y
4/11/08, 10:28:am
I can agree on that because I see those same sorry magazines at the checkout in stores and I refuse to thumb through them only because I’m so very tired of seeing skanky a$$ trailer park trash Britney Spears and her Jerry Springer issues on some of these covers….however I feel that if they would perhaps put more cl*****y individuals on their covers they’d sell better….
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 10:28:am
@10:16, you are not a master maniupulator, neither are you a spin doctor, so give it a rest. You are corney. What is it this time, oh, wait, you’re going to TRY to convince folks that it’s me playing this silly game with myself?!?! Whew, you don’t give up do you, guess you get an A for effort and an F for orginality. I think you tried this spin before…*wishing this rabid, foaming at the mouth stalker would get a life of their own*
valenne
4/11/08, 10:28:am
i don’t really agree with we are hater that much!
White media make fun of Paris Hilton, britney spears and all their stars every time and we don’t call them racist!
White peopla have been causing allt he biggest war in this world against themselves!!!! So they are the biggest HATER in this world!
beautiful
4/11/08, 10:29:am
LOL, this is funny. They are not on the covers because they are not sharing! Every mag would kill to be the one with their wedding pics. It is quite obvious that they have no intention of selling them. Do you all have any ideal how much Bee commands for birthday parties and private parties? Anyway, I would love for them to sit down with Ebony and invite them into their home for an interview one day in the future.
just saying
4/11/08, 10:29:am
SORRY WHITE MAN I AM WORK RIGHT AS WE SPEAK AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND DON’T BE SO THREATEN OK , IT COULD CAUSE YOU HEART PROMBLEM LIVING WITH SO MUCH HATE, ANYWAY YOU WILL NOT UPSET US ON HERE OUR BLACK BLOG SO YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE IT UP BY THE WAY LOVE YA!
valenne
4/11/08, 10:30:am
white people don’t like each other. Spanish (from spain) don’t like french who don’t like italians, and who can stand germans!! should i go on?!!!
HOTSTUFF
4/11/08, 10:30:am
I wouldn’t sell them at all!!! Keep them for my own keepsakes…
Chaka
4/11/08, 10:30:am
They probably already made a deal with a publication. That’s why Solange and no one else is talking about it. Or they don’t want the publicity.
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:31:am
Okay but lyrically dont go there with Beyonce because her lyrics mean nothing but to shake her booty swing her lace front wig and go down low with it. She has yes shared a stage with Tina Turner, Sung w Luther on his song. And showed her scantily clad body on some of those magazines and what. All the interviews are still the same. I mean I jam BDay when its time to cut up a rug. But I do in no way look up to her as a someone with cl*****. I like the Alicia Keys the Fantasias who can go to Africa and give their time. I like the entertainers who are selfless. Like Bono, Janet, Angelina, Oprah even Rhianna has a foundation.
Lisa
4/11/08, 10:32:am
White people generally buy these types of magazines. It’s business. The editors will put celebs on the cover that appeal to the buyer. It’s not racist. How many White actresses appear on the cover of Essence yearly? Exactly.
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 10:32:am
Ella?? Black People right!!
valenne
4/11/08, 10:33:am
we black people were not that divided before white people come inject his tareism in us by segregating us if you remember LYNCH!
THE WHITE MAN
4/11/08, 10:33:am
WHAT IS THE ONLY RACE WHERE PEOPLE OPENLY GREET EACH OTHER WITH A DEROGATORY NAME???
“WHAT UP MY *****”
NEED I SAY MORE!
And...
4/11/08, 10:34:am
Maybe when they actually confirm being married somebody will show genuine interest in the photos.
There’s not even a scandal around it. They got married on a roof w/15 people there. Come on.
I’m sure Bee looked how she looks when she performs or on the red carpet & Jay looks just as he does when he hosts parties.
*Do we really need to see pics? I vote no and who cares.
GIMME A BREAK
4/11/08, 10:36:am
this is a racist website
bossip is like Al Sharpton love to preach racism
everything is racism – hot dam ….why when you go to other website like splash,tmz,perezhilton,infdaily etc …..i mean they dont preach racism, the comments that people post is just simply funny . they dont attack each other and all that other bull***** that goes on on GOSSIP meant BOSSIP.
Marcia
4/11/08, 10:36:am
This post isn’t true. I was at the store yesterday and Beyonce/Jay-Z’s wedding was on the cover of People, In Touch, and some other magazines. They would have been on more if they confirmed the marriage and the media had pictures of the wedding especially of beyonce in her wedding dress. The Post said that Beyonce wouldn’t get as much money as Eva Longoria because of her race, but the last time I checked Tony Parker was black.
And...
4/11/08, 10:37:am
@ He’s Presidential…
I agree, if Fantasia, K. Cole, C*****ie, Cheri Dennis, Amerie or any of the latter danced like Bee or had as many crotch shots, nipple slips, or cheeks showing they would get taken to the town square, stoned, burned at the stake, slandered and sent out for being a w*****. Lol…
I dig her music, good to dance & workout to. Still no depth or substance.
miss j
4/11/08, 10:39:am
@ white man
your waisting your time here trying to start stuff, we ignore your kind, on this blog site ok sweetie so run along now ok and be blessed!
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 10:41:am
@ And….
Well that just wrapped this baby up.
Youre right
GIMME A BREAK
4/11/08, 10:42:am
actually WHITE MAN is
right ……Isnt that the way we greet each other
and then complain when someone else beside black greet us that way …..
he got a point
valenne
4/11/08, 10:44:am
the only fact that we consider us as a race and only a race and that we feel that we should support any buffonery just because they are black is wrong! And white people don’t have problem not supporting something that is not right. But us black people think that because we black we all should feel the same, think the same and act the same! I am sorry, but by doing this, we will stick at the bottom of the barrel!
Lily
4/11/08, 10:45:am
I’ll agree that the media is racist, but I bet if Beyonce/Jay-Z made their wedding known and they had pics, it would have gotten more press. I don’t agree that all black celebrities would get paid very little in comparison to whites. If Oprah got married, every single magazine would put her on the cover and she would get paid big $$$. When I was in Asia last year, her magazine was in every store that I went to and in the front.
you know
4/11/08, 10:47:am
He’s Presidential
Nothing about Beyonce and Jay Z are distinguished.. Beyonce is a robot she has no personality her only personality is Sasha when she is on stage. Besides that I have never heard her speak like Alicia, Rhianna, Jennifer H and even Kelly or Michelle.. I mean I have never heard her opinion about anything in all of her years on being in the public eye. She seems to give simple answers whenever she does magazine interviews. I mean besides being worth 54 million dollars who is this woman. Besides a go getter of money.
Everything you just said is something I’ve heard others say and i still don’t understand where you get it from. I’ve heard her, not read in a mag, give her opinion lots of times. She must like Janet Jackson come alive on stage and are more reserved and quiet in person. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Just because she isn’t loud and crazy like everyone else in her personal life and chooses to keep her private like PRIVATE doesnt’ mean she doesn’t have a personality. Perhaps you just don’t like her personality, which is fine.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 10:47:am
@Valenne- thats right.
AZShakur
4/11/08, 10:48:am
Well I’m from the south and I hear white people say the funniest *****. They will refer to another white person as a redneck and the funny ***** is I thought all whites were rednecks. Hahahahah. Had to say it. Not trying to start anything,but that was too easy.
Just_Wanna_Know
4/11/08, 10:49:am
On one hand I believe this is true but then again, maybe Bey and Jay sabotage their own cover. Meaning, they won’t even acknowledge a wedding took place. How are you supposed to promote a magazine featuring someones wedding and the damn bride and groom deny it ever happend?
you know
4/11/08, 10:50:am
THE WHITE MAN
WHAT IS THE ONLY RACE WHERE PEOPLE OPENLY GREET EACH OTHER WITH A DEROGATORY NAME???
“WHAT UP MY *****”
NEED I SAY MORE!
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GIMME A BREAK
actually WHITE MAN is
right ……Isnt that the way we greet each other
and then complain when someone else beside black greet us that way …..
he got a point
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And of course someone will say call Whit Man racist or say “why are you here”? and call GIMME A BREAK an “uncle tom” or a “sell out” for agreeing with him. BLACK FOLKS ARE MORE RACISTS THAN WHITE PEOPLE. Not only that but we have double standards. A black man can call another black man n**** but if a white man does it that’s a wrap. So sad.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 10:50:am
OH and @ He’s Presidential
So true.
valenne
4/11/08, 10:51:am
however, i do think that we always have to defend our race when we are with other races. But within us, we need to be more self conscious!
you know
4/11/08, 10:52:am
NEWSFLASH…
Beyonce and Jay-Z have NEVER DENIED they are married and they have not CONFIRMED they are married. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck IT’S A DAMN DUCK. Why do they have to make an announcement about it? Common sense people.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 10:52:am
Ignorance!
Alot od black people think they have the right to be racist and don’t label it as so when it is what it is!
kwa
4/11/08, 10:54:am
its true, white celebs sell a lot more.
If it were Britney Spears getting married there would have been a helicopter hovering the place and a miles worth of paparazzi just waiting for her to make one step out the door.
But really yall, do black celebs WANT the media watching their every move just waiting for them to slip up? We see how they be talkin bout Naomi Campbell on the news, imagine if they captured everything she did on a day to day basis! Let’s take this as a blessing that black people have to do something major in order to get worldwide scrutiny for it
valenne
4/11/08, 10:54:am
but when a white girl say that she is sick of Paris Hilton, it is an opinion, but if a black person say that he is sick of Delishious, is Hate!!
Nesh Nesh
4/11/08, 10:54:am
There could possibly be some validity to this because we are STILL living in a racist world. But if Bey/Jay are more concerned about who’ll get the highest bid for their pics, then the marriage it self than that speaks volume about their relationship. If I was a celebrity/had money in the bank already/married the man of my dreams; I would be concerned with how much I get for my wedding pics because it’s sentimental anyway. Peace everyone!!!
you know
4/11/08, 10:54:am
Don’t mind me
Ignorance!
Alot od black people think they have the right to be racist and don’t label it as so when it is what it is!
Exactly^^^^^ and white ppl have been letting this ish p*****. When was the last time a rapper was on CNN explaining why he used the N-word. But dogg had to. We use the N-word in a negative way to each other and a postive way but no one asks why and we are not expected to justify its use. WHY!?!??!
KD
4/11/08, 10:54:am
@ He’s Presidential
Ummm…Beyonce does have a foundation. It’s called the Survivor Foundation and was established after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. She and Kelly Rowland have a youth recreation center in Houston and last year, they had a 4 million dollar apartment complex built for the Hurricane victims. Plus, Beyonce plans on giving a portion of her proceeds she will make from “Cadillac Records” to the foundation in support of drug addicts.
But you have a good point. I would like to see her get involved in more AIDS causes.
KD
4/11/08, 10:55:am
^^And I’m sure there is much more. It just doesn’t make headlines.
TROPICAL BREEZE
4/11/08, 10:58:am
@ gimme a break
@ you know
co-sign with you guys
double standards all across the board
I'm just gonna wait for Negrodamus to post so I can get my laugh on...
4/11/08, 10:59:am
I have completely stopped trying to figure out which JSABP is real
just saying
4/11/08, 11:01:am
@you know when congratulated on the nupitals JAY-Z SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DENIAL TO ME.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 11:03:am
This may seem impossible for some of you to even comprehend, but I really dson’t see colour. I see what someone is about. Just as I don’t want to be judge on mine I set an example of how I want to be treated if you get caught up on such things your limiting yourself!
me myself and I
4/11/08, 11:03:am
For the ppl that keeps comparing Beyonce with JLo and Eva Longoria. I dont see the comparison. Even though Beyonce is light she is black. JLo and Eva may be Latino, but they are white Latino. Latino isn’t a race its a culture. I dont know if any of u guys have travelled to the Latin countries, but they are broken down in categories, White, black, coloured and so on and so on. When they come to America they put them self in one group “Latino” ,but not when they are back home. And dont give me that “well Beyonce is creole” Pas Qui Mwen Sé Kwéyòl Too. And for u guys that dont know , the last sentence was written in creole.
just saying
4/11/08, 11:04:am
@VALENNE DON’T EVEN GET TRAPPED IN THIS CONVERSATION LET WHITE MAN GO ON ABOUT HIS BUSINESS.
DJ
4/11/08, 11:06:am
Uh, the fact is Bey and J didn’t want their wedding to be public NOR did they want any pictures leaking out. They wanted their wedding to be PRIVATE and that’s just what they got and now because they got that suddenly everyone is a racist. Grow up people.
valenne
4/11/08, 11:09:am
lol you re right!!
@ me myself and I,
Eva longoria is mexican just like salma ayek and she is not white!
As for JLO i don’t really know but i know puertorican, dominican etc discriminate the darkers one! the lighter you are and the better you are! but she is not white, she has strong features before the surgery of course!
beautiful
4/11/08, 11:11:am
DJ
Uh, the fact is Bey and J didn’t want their wedding to be public NOR did they want any pictures leaking out. They wanted their wedding to be PRIVATE and that’s just what they got and now because they got that suddenly everyone is a racist. Grow up people.
Thank you! Jay and Bee invited 30 folks to the ceremony. That’s it. It was a serious private affair. It was intimate between husband and wife.
MANDDY
4/11/08, 11:12:am
I have just seen PEOPLE MAGAZINE’s latest cover and beyonce is on it plus US WEEKLY. ISN’T PEOPLE THE ”WHITEST MAG IN AMERICA”. This has nothing to do with racism. There were NO PICTURES OF THE WEDDING. *****ODY LANDED THE EXCLUSIVE. How then would the other mags have made it a cover story if there were no pictures of the event to back it up. For their cover, PEOPLE scooped up an old picture of beyonce and so did US.
Afiya
4/11/08, 11:14:am
I totally agree @ DJ
They got what they wanted…PRIVACY.
I don’t see a problem with that.
Baby Please
4/11/08, 11:14:am
Well, for one thing they are being so unnecessarily “secretive” about it. As I understand it, even up to this point, they still have not announced that they were even wed. I think no photos were released and the mags were not tipped off about the upcoming nuptuals… if they even took place. So, I think it’s not the same.
BOSSIP IS BEING STUPID!
4/11/08, 11:18:am
Eva & Tony’s wedding was a much hyped affair in a castle in France that’ why it got so much publicity. Beyonce’s wedding was a big secret, nothing was said about it to drum up interest like the other weddings. And they didn’t hold the wedding in a magnificient arena or anything because apparently they wanted to keep it low. Even as of yesterday Rihanna said she didn’t know about it. They didn’t broadcast their wedding the way the other celebs did. BOSSIP knows this but they want to incite ***** today to keep people coming to this site to post a comment. So just think about it people. Even Beyonce and JayZ didn’t consider their wedding to be a big deal publicity wise, so why should we care. BOSSIP really need to stop all this instigating because sometimes the folks who run this site are worst than the mainline media about stuff like this. Ya’ll just think about this now!
Racer X
4/11/08, 11:19:am
How can they be called racist when they went to “Mission Impossible” extremes to hide the fact that they were or werent getting married. Even now, they don’t wear rings to symbolize their marriage, if there ever was one. I don’t get these two, they act as if they are the Taliban and don’t want anyone to know there status. Its crazy, they really need to get over themselves.
dee
4/11/08, 11:19:am
How do you expect magazines to put a couple who have barely even admitted they’re together, let alone that they got married on the cover??? I’m sure B and J never even sat down to discuss selling their wedding photos…if they even got married. I’m still half believing cuz personally, I think its dumb as hell to get married in the middle of a tour. Only way they would have been on the cover was in some damn stock photo from whenever, and with the same info every other blog has, so what would have been the point of that?
me myself and I
4/11/08, 11:20:am
For valenne:
You may be right. But I know when JLO was at her peak. I remember reading that her grandparents were from Europe, and they migrated to PR. Its just like Shikira fathers ppl are from lebanon and they migrated to Colombia. Another Example is Gisele the model. her parents are from Germany but moved to Brazil and she was born there.
Thsi is the racial make up of Puerto Rico:
white (mostly Spanish origin) 80.5%, black 8%, Amerindian 0.4%, Asian 0.2%, mixed and other 10.9%
you know
4/11/08, 11:23:am
How many different organizations and foundations are you all who are criticising Beyonce for involved with. Not to say she shouldn’t but everybody should be giving back if you have been blessed.
SEXCEE
4/11/08, 11:27:am
Why are ppl acting suprised at this post. Whether if B and J had publicized their wedding , the point is they dont put Blacl ppl on the cover of magazines. Its not an issue of pics or not thats not the point, How many stories of other white celebrities have come out with no pics and its been all over magazines. If they dont have the actual pics they put old pics on the cover and thats the point. I have heard Black celebrities say that all the time. I remember back in the day , TLC complained about that all the time. Rolling Stone wouldn’t put them on the cover cuz they were told Black stars dont sell magazine covers. NOTHING NEW
He's Presidential
4/11/08, 11:29:am
Nope I don’t like her personality she comes off as *****y to me for some reason.. But keep this in mind when it comes to racism in America. When that white w***** who was involved in the Sptizer came out. Donald Trump wants to put her on a TV show. Okay, so Karrin Stephens wrote about her tryst with men and was dogged.
you know
4/11/08, 11:29:am
just saying
@you know when congratulated on the nupitals JAY-Z SAID HE DIDN’T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A DENIAL TO ME.
You are right. I just went and looked up the definition of denial and one of them was:
refusal to recognize or acknowledge. I was taking denial more as like they were denying it ever happened which they have not they just have not publicly confirmed that it did. But like my post earlier why should they have to? That’s their business. People get married everyday, rich or poor, celebriy or ordinary people. It’s a ceremony between those joining and God first and then their closest family and friends. I’m glad they kept it a secret and I hope they NEVER TELL. Even after the kids, lol.
Sanity
4/11/08, 11:30:am
Of course white celebrities are going to sell more of anything than blacks. America is predominately white you idiots. I’m not black, so why would I wanna see some blacks on the cover of a magazine. All blacks do is cry all day about how unfairly they are treated. How often do you hear other ethnic groups complain? Not often. They just go about their business and leave the whining to the blacks. Its time for all the blacks to put up, shut up and get it the same way everyone else did. Though thats probably not going to happen is it. Ebonics isn’t a language. English is. Hahahaha
you know
4/11/08, 11:32:am
He’s Presidential
Nope I don’t like her personality she comes off as *****y to me for some reason.. But keep this in mind when it comes to racism in America. When that white w***** who was involved in the Sptizer came out. Donald Trump wants to put her on a TV show. Okay, so Karrin Stephens wrote about her tryst with men and was dogged.
*********************************************
Karrin has made thousands of dollar off of being a w***** just like Splitzer’s protistute. The only difference is who the w*****s were sleeping with, not the fact they they were w*****s. And please believe there are just as many people *****g her as their are Karrine. Did you watch the news?
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 11:33:am
Whose going to fall for this? Whose going to let the above opinion trigger of their ignorance?
rlf
4/11/08, 11:35:am
Beyonce is on the cover of People and US Weekly the two biggest magazines (just noticed something its only beyonce by her self on the covers no jayz no thugs on the cover lol) anyway i dont think it was a racist thing is just that the smaller magazines the ones that but beys story in the corner of the cover their not making as much money like people mag or us weekly so they have to go with what they no is gonna sell to make their money and not take any risk because lets face whens the last time youve seen a black female on a tabloid cover. But when they see how good her two covers are gonna sell they will come running believe it.
fat boy
4/11/08, 11:35:am
who cares! let these white people and spanish people have their little mags. Black celebs should stop doing their mags anyway and just do black mags.
its f-ucked how we always report on j-lo on black sites..the white media loves spanish celebs! keep it black.
you know
4/11/08, 11:35:am
^^^^Not me. I figured I let her/him come to the realization that they are on a black site and feel stupid about contradicting themselves.
dubya
4/11/08, 11:39:am
I think many of the previous posters have said it better than I could ever had said it. So, I won’t re-invent the wheel. I will say this though:
Race baiting and complaining over non-crucial issues such as this is getting really, really OLD. We need to realize that white guilt and those that felt it are not going to be around that much longer and our complaints are going to start falling on deaf ears.
The white person of today does not have the patience to hear our complaints because unlike the white people of the blantant racist era, the landscape has changed. The white person of today has more likely than not sat in many cl*****rooms with blacks. We now work together, live in the same neighborhoods, shop at the same places, watch the same shows. So I (being white) made it and you (being black) have not then you only have yourself to blame.
Also, the world is changing, the whole stuck in slavery mind-set is outdated. It’s no longer black and white. It’s asian too. And boy are asians a force to be reckoned with.
We now have people coming over to America from impoverished third world countries who have had it 10 million times worse than we ever have had it come here and make a productive lives for themselves–running rings around us as african americans.
So, we can continue to harp on these minute issues while the world moves on without and despite us.
valenne
4/11/08, 11:39:am
@ fat boi
i agree. Black people love JLO because she has ***** lol,like we black woman don’t have *****. All those post about KIM k,Coco, but in the same time, we never have a post of Eva longoria who is married to a black man! So maybe Tony P is not american that why they don’t care???
Anyway, if you have a black blog, is to promote the black culture right?!!
dubya
4/11/08, 11:40:am
correction. I am black, I’m just saying that this is how the white person of today views us. If i’m white and I sat in the same cl*****room as a black student and he can’t make it then he has no one else to blam but himself.
cns
4/11/08, 11:40:am
Everything about Beyonce is distinguished. She has dined with Presidents, Kings, Queens,and Princes. She has collaborated with legends like Stevie Wonder, Luther Vandross, Bono, Tina Turner, to name a few. She has traveled the world over and have done things that few have done. She covered Sports Illustrated, Harpers Bazaar, Glamour, Better Homes and Garden, Vanity Fair, Elle, Seventeen,GQ, Spin, Ebony, Essence, Jet, Giant,Marie Claire, FHM, Maxim, Blender, Rollingstone, Self to name a few.
I agree, but with all of these wonderful experiences in her life she still has nothing interesting to say. She is a bore.
kamd
4/11/08, 11:41:am
so what, b and j dosent need any attention, as quite as they are being. As if we did not make them who they r today. with out us (the fans) there would be no them (who would have never married without the $ or fame that was made by the fans) shame on them
marla williams
4/11/08, 11:41:am
IF they do sell to a mag I HOPE a BLACK MAG gets the “only pictures”…… or they can put together a Wedding day Photo album for there fans and sell it for $59.99 and make all the money to keep for themselves and fix all the MEDIA!!….
valenne
4/11/08, 11:44:am
if they ever have to sell to a magazine, you would see thay they would NOT sell it to a balck magazine because a white magazine would give them more money!
But they would never been called sell out because they are doing that for money!
If they decide to go to a black magazine regardless of how much millions Vogue or whatever magazine would give them, then you would know that they care about being black but honeslty, I don’t think they do!
valenne
4/11/08, 11:45:am
for that reason, iwould never worship any celeb and i would never wait for them to represent me!
valenne
4/11/08, 11:47:am
JLO did not give the exclusivity of her baby pictures to a latino magazine either so, they just don’t care!
fat boy
4/11/08, 11:47:am
@valenne
exactly these sites confuse men.
***** yeah i do think its cause hes french.
kim k sells though lol and cause traffic.
that ***** adv. 500 replies a post.
valenne
4/11/08, 11:50:am
@ dubya it is not that simple!
myabe a white student would have all the support from his parents, book, teachers at home, help etc…,
but he same black may have to deal with an absent father, his mother that works so much and come back home late, have to watch his brothers and sisters, to feed them and have to study at the same time! The social context will determine your chance of success not your colour!
killa vam
4/11/08, 11:50:am
No mags carried the story about B and Jay cause there is no story. If they did get married, “so f*ckin’ what and who cares?” and if they didn’t get married, “so f*ckin’ what and who cares?”
I don’t understand why anybody would care about these people and their lives anyway. All these people ya’ll call celebrities are just people, people. Move on, Move on…
DARRELL
4/11/08, 11:51:am
ANY MANY WAYS IT’S TRUE THAT BOSSIP IS NO BETTER THAN JESSY JACKSON, FAT ***** AL SHARPTON AND ALL THE REST OF THEM HUSTLERS MAKING A LIVING OFF OF RACE BAITING. BOSSIP NEEDS TO JUST PRACTICE WHAT IT PREACHES AND “HO SIT DOWN”.
you know
4/11/08, 11:51:am
dubya
Also, the world is changing, the whole stuck in slavery mind-set is outdated. It’s no longer black and white. It’s asian too. And boy are asians a force to be reckoned with.
We now have people coming over to America from impoverished third world countries who have had it 10 million times worse than we ever have had it come here and make a productive lives for themselves–running rings around us as african americans.
So, we can continue to harp on these minute issues while the world moves on without and despite us.
Best damn post all morning.
*****
4/11/08, 11:54:am
Right. Ain’t no mainstrean magazines gonna put the wedding of a Rapper on it’s cover and I don’t care if it was Beyonce’s wedding. Beyonce has been on the covers of too many magazines too count, *****ody want to see a Rapper on the covers, thug or no thug, because to most Americans all the Rappers are thugs and they got *****ody to blame but themselves, so ya’ll just shut the hell up.
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 11:55:am
Sorry what kings queens princes has she dined with?
lol fhm maxim= distinguished lol
DR.FUNK
4/11/08, 11:55:am
OF COURSE there is a subliminal racism going on.Here’s the thing:I DON’T CARE.I don’t find White Celebrities any more compelling just because there’s a larger “machine” out there that wants to cover them.I DON’T find White celebs to be any more attractive…or interesting…or intelligent.I’m so over this “media matrix” that covers…glorifies…and DEIFIES White’s.I don’t think a story about a Black celeb in a publication that covers mostly White celebs is a “STAMP OF LEGITIMACY” for that Black celeb.THEY WERE ALREADY THERE.It’s ALL BACKGROUND NOISE to me.
I think the question becomes one of since there are now PLENTY of media outlets that cover Black celebrities/culture…which of these entities will STEP-UP & write the FAT CHECK for an exclusive?
you know
4/11/08, 11:55:am
valenne
@ dubya it is not that simple!
myabe a white student would have all the support from his parents, book, teachers at home, help etc…,
but he same black may have to deal with an absent father, his mother that works so much and come back home late, have to watch his brothers and sisters, to feed them and have to study at the same time! The social context will determine your chance of success not your colour!
There are plenty of ppl who had to do all those things you just listed and still got their work done. Yeah it was much harder than that white child who didn’t have as many responsiblities but it’s not impossible. Not to mention there are just as many white kids growing up in socially unfit homes. Stop trying to make it seem like all white kids got it made. They don’t. I also think you missed dubya’s point when she ( i think) said there are ppl coming to American from third world countries running circles around us. You are right about one thing… it’s not that simple. Some people want more and so they do better. Others want more but also think they deserve it and so someone else should just give it to them.
dubya
4/11/08, 11:56:am
valenne:
you are 100% correct. You and I both know it is not that simple, but the fact of the matter is that a white person of today is not going to look at it like that.
If Michelle Obama can pick herself out of the south side of chicago and make herself into the woman she is today, why can’t they all do that.
The white person of today has no tolerance for excuses.
Negrodamus Believes
4/11/08, 11:56:am
Negrodamus believes a magazine showing real white
people is needed. Not these ultra left wing nuts in Hollywood..So “I Know White People” is officially in publication.
1. Sports
If you’ve been in a white person’s apartment or home you might have noticed a ball that looks like a cross between an egg and a football. It is a Rugby ball and it is an important sport for white people.
2.St Patrick’s Day
This very special white holiday recognizes Saint Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland who helped to bring Catholicism to the Emerald Isle. His ascetic life is celebrated every year by white people drinking large amounts of Irish-themed alcohol and listening to Ska Music. Normally if someone were to wake up at 7:00 in the morning, take the day off work, and get drunk at a bar before 10:00 a.m., they would be called an alcoholic, and not in the artistic, edgy way that white people are so fond of.
3.Having Gay Friends
If white people could draft friends the way that the NFL drafts prospects it would go like this: black friends, gay friends, and then all other minorities would be drafted based on need and rarity to the region.
4.The Idea of Soccer
Many white people will tell you that they are very into soccer. But be careful, it’s a trap.
If you then attempt to engage them about your favorite soccer team or talk about famous moments in soccer history, you are likely to be met with blank stares. This is because white people don’t actually enjoy watching soccer, they just like telling their friends that they are into it.
In fact, the main reason white people like soccer is so they can buy a new scarf. As you may or may not know, many soccer teams issue special scarves, and white people cannot get enough of them!
Don't mind me
4/11/08, 11:57:am
Most of the time his is posing dancing in dirty positions someone distinguish wouldn’t need too
you know
4/11/08, 11:58:am
@dubya
You betta PREACH. That’s what I’m talking about. Too many of us are doing it. The others need to stop complaining and take note.
dubya
4/11/08, 12:00:pm
I don’t mean to go off topic I’m just saying..posts like this make me cringe. I am addicted to Bossip, I’m not even trying to make it seem as if I am all high and mighty. I love the wit here, It makes my day go by faster!
Bossip, you need to race bait with more substantial issues.
valenne
4/11/08, 12:01:pm
i know but is harder when you are not coming from a perfect family
you know
4/11/08, 12:04:pm
valenne
i know but is harder when you are not coming from a perfect family
That’s the whole point. NO ONE COMES FROM A PERFECT FAMILY. It doesn’t exist. Everybody has challenges to overcome and everyone’s limit is different. Some breakdown and throw fits when they don’t get everything they want while others are in highschool taking care of their little siblings and cooking and cleaning while trying to make it.
Ms. T.
4/11/08, 12:05:pm
Jogger, you are absolutely right. Eva Longoria is Mexican and Tony Parker is Black all day long and twice on Sunday. They got a lot of media attention, because they were a very public couple and included the public in all of their wedding plans. There was hype. Jay Z and Bey on the other hand kept everything hush hush and finally people just stopped caring what they were up to.
And as for Jennifer Lopez, she’s Puerto Rican. Black, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Cuban, Panamanian….it’s all the same. Don’t let anybody tell you different.
beauluv
4/11/08, 12:08:pm
i know y they aren’t getting the same publicity and its because jay z is not as big a star as he was his songs dont sale like they used to. bey needs a real star to be with if she wants big publicity cause if this was will and jada they definitly would have gotten more publicity jay z is a behind the scene mogul he is not as important as bey or will smith, denzel or even forest whitaker
DR.FUNK
4/11/08, 12:11:pm
@DUBYA’
“So, we can continue to harp on these minute issues while the world moves on without and despite us.”
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So ABSOLUTELY TRUE! What REALLY matters is:
Who runs the HEDGE FUNDS?
Who dominates BIOTECH?
Who supplies/refines the BULK COMMODITIES?
When I look into a business publication and start seeing BLACK FACES *****ociated with the OWNERSHIP of those entities…THAT WILL BE MUST-READ CELEBRITY COVERAGE to me.As for this little HISSY FIT Bossip is throwing over nothing:HO SIT DOWN!
Negrodamus Believes
4/11/08, 12:12:pm
5.Threatening to Move to Canada
Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.
For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”
Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.
6.Gentrification
White people like to live in these neighborhoods because they get credibility and respect from other white people for living in a more “authentic” neighborhood where they are exposed to “true culture” every day. So whenever their friends mention their home in the suburbs or richer urban area, these people can say “oh, it’s so boring out there, so fake. In our neighborhood, things are just more real.” This superiority is important as white people jockey for position in their circle of friends.
They are like a modern day Lewis and Clark, except instead of searching for the ocean, they are searching for old properties to renovate.
7.Dogs
A lot of cultures love dogs – be it for entertainment, labor, or other. But white people love dogs on an entirely different level.
It should be understood that in white culture, dogs are considered training for having children. That is to say that any white couple must get a dog before they have kids. This will prepare them for responsibility by having another creature to feed, supervise it’s bathroom activities, and to love. Because of this, white people generally *****ume that their dog is their favorite child unless otherwise stated.
When actual children are born, the dog is not displaced but rather remains as the most important member of the household. This is because of the fact that white children will eventually hate their parents, but dogs will love anyone who feeds them.
White people generally believe that dogs have human emotions and that they are capable of loving certain TV shows, films, and music. “Buster just loves watching Six Feet Under!” Even though most dogs would enjoy watching Hitler if he were getting attention every time it came on the TV.
valenne
4/11/08, 12:14:pm
let me explain myself!
I amnot rreying to defend blakc people but actually i was too hard on them and you have to take the social context!Lots of social theory have proved that the son of a doctor have more chance to become a doctor! When you come in thso world, you can benefit from a cultural capital and also a human capital! Your parents would always be behind you to make you go to school and become a successful man/woman and help you themselves if they have to.
How yout mother will explain ***** when she barely speak english?!! How can she come to the parents-teactcher meeting when she works all day long! I am just sayong that it is not easy and i kinda stop judging people an that!
However, the importancy of education and DEGREE is this world to get a job, a social status and a real life is known by anybody and they should at least try and not give up like some of them do to become a rapper or a video model! So lots of them do not have an excuse but ont he same time, something is wrong in a society when you don’t believe that a degree wil get you a job because your black and that is somethin i have heard lots of people said here!
ThatTX Dude
4/11/08, 12:19:pm
I think they should just sell the pics to Essence Magazine if the other gossip rags want to act like that. Essence is considered a cl*****y magazine, and they are considered, by most people, a cl*****y couple. They would also probably get the front cover, and that issue would be picked up in stores by alot of people of all races because both of them have fans across the spectrum. Finally, Essence is already the leading black oriented title as far as ad revenue. It would be a win-win for everybody.
DR.FUNK
4/11/08, 12:19:pm
@Negrodamus Believes
YOU’RE AN IDIOT…and quit PLAGIARIZING the “STUFF WHITE PEOPLE LIKE” website.Waaay lame dude.
you know
4/11/08, 12:20:pm
@valenne
“something is wrong in a society when you don’t believe that a degree wil get you a job because your black and that is somethin i have heard lots of people said here” That’s called ignorance and laziness. It’s much easier to rap or shake your ***** than to have the dedication, perserverance, and fortitude to get up and go to school to obtain an education. Human beings by nature want to take the easiest route. The problem is the easiest routes don’t yield the best benefits. We have to realize that and know that I may have to be without now to have more later. Not to mention a child may have a better chance of becoming a doctor if their father is one but the majority of ppl who are doctors did not grow up with a doctor parent.
cns
4/11/08, 12:21:pm
If you want to ***** them off and actually admit that they are married, 1st completely ignore them, then only refer to them as boyfriend and girlfriend of 6 years. Then Papa Knowles will come out ranting and raving about his daughter’s marriage not being respected by the press. They are playing the game all wrong. The last thing a celebrity wants is for the press to ignore them. Once this happens they won’t be able to shut up about their wedding.
Ash
4/11/08, 12:22:pm
Hello!!! We only make up about 12% of the damn population!!! Of course we’re not gonna sell the most glossy gossip mags…That’s the same reason why black actresses don’t make as much as Cameron Diaz and Julia Roberts…whites make up the majority meaning the majority will buy more mags meaning the majority will make you more money!!!! It’s not racist its the truth people!!!
meh
4/11/08, 12:22:pm
Shut the ***** up Bossip!!!!! If not as many people are going 2 buy the magazine if Jay Z & Beyonce are on the front then OBVIOUSLY they won’t get the cover!!! Its just business! More white people buy magazines such as People etc so they probably arent as interested in black celebs as they are white celebs so the magazine are NOT going 2 put as many black people on the front! Its just business-Not RAcism! If white poeple dont wanna hear bout jay z and Beyonce then thats just the way it is. in the same way that black magazines wouldnt put Britney on the front because black people would be less inclined 2 read about her then Gabrielle Union for example! Just a fact of life! People are gonna wanna read about people who look like them!
TJ
4/11/08, 12:22:pm
They don’t care about beyonce and jay z becaue they are boring..they are not exciting enough for the white media…all they do is hide their relationship anyway. white ppl don’t care about jay z…they are too busy worrying about brad pitt. u can’t even compare or even put the names in the same sentence
JUST4DAHELLOFIT
4/11/08, 12:24:pm
Maybe if these two didn’t play games with the public so much, I would care about this topic concerning them. I also think that they got their ***** wake up call just like P.Diddy did when he was considered B-Listed.
you know
4/11/08, 12:25:pm
Ash
Hello!!! We only make up about 12% of the damn population!!! Of course we’re not gonna sell the most glossy gossip mags…That’s the same reason why black actresses don’t make as much as Cameron Diaz and Julia Roberts…whites make up the majority meaning the majority will buy more mags meaning the majority will make you more money!!!! It’s not racist its the truth people!!!
Thank you^^^^^. It’s about money. If beyandjay would yield top dollars they would be on every cover.
beautiful
4/11/08, 12:26:pm
The problem is Beyonce is a superstar! The press loves to talk about her and so do black blogs.
tee
4/11/08, 12:31:pm
thats just bull— did you pick up your copy of People this week? Beyonce is clearly the front celebrity on the cover…
Common Sense
4/11/08, 12:32:pm
ASH is the first smart person on here.
This is not about race. DO YOU care all that much about what Heide and LC from the Hills are doing? I know I don’t give a ***** (well, only to laugh at them on “The Soup”)
White people….GET THIS! Care about white people most and they are still the overwhelming majority. Beyonce is a Mega-Star, but white folks don’t care about Jay-Z. They care about Brad Pitt and Brittney Spears. Get over it.
It’s called a business decision. And good for Jay and Beyonce that they can have their nuptuals in peace. If blacks made up the majority AND were ignored, THEN it would be an issue, but to be shocked and offended by this is beyond silly.
Spaniard Gurrllly
4/11/08, 12:33:pm
@ Ms. T I dont normally post on here but reading your comment I noticed u saying that Cuban, Rican, Mexican etc are the same as black BUT we’re not! I’m a Cuban of full Spaniard decent (meaning that I am of European ancestory aka white) and while the majority of Cubans are of mixed Amerindian and White/Spanish desent there are actually very few Black. Same with Mexican (who are mostly Mezito). Ricans have slightly more Black lineage but most are mixed Amerindian and White/Spanish. I love all colors of people but it really annoys me when people discount my Spanish heritege by saying that all Hispanics are Brown/Black when infact a large number of us are White but are cl*****ed as not being so because we speak Spanish. Some Hispanics do indeed have African ancestors but NOT all so please dont make a blanket term like that.
BIGEASY
4/11/08, 12:33:pm
GET POPPING
ethang
4/11/08, 12:36:pm
@ dubya
That is by far the most intelligent post I’ve read on this site.
Preach on.
Bird
4/11/08, 12:36:pm
Why did yall have to get my blood boiling today? WHY!?!?! F*ck those *****s. They are the ones who create celebs out of non celebs like Paris and Kim K. (Bossip isn’t innocent either). Nothing exciting is even going on with Brit for he to have a cover. Anyway B and Jay don’t need them. They are stars to US and they are getting money from THEM so to hell with them. I stand by my wish that they give the photos to Essence or Ebony and watch them fly off the shelves. Hell they ain’t even got to give them the wedding photos. All they got to do is get a fabulously romantic Essence cover (like Lisa and Lenny) and I’m good.
Annie
4/11/08, 12:37:pm
Spaniard Gurrllly: A lot of self-hate going on. Just because you have a lighter skin tone does not mean that you do not have African heritage. Most Cubans have African heritage. I’m not sure if you know much about your culture: the do*****ented attempts to suppress Africans identity, the colorism, and the obsession with “pelo malo” and good hair. You are not white. You are Cuban, and a part of Cuban idenity is the African identity. It is in the music, food, and flows through the culture. As a proud Latina, I embrace my Africanness, and you should try it.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 12:39:pm
P.S. Jennifer Aniston can still get it all day long, so we know that a bitter woman wrote that for bossip.
just saying
4/11/08, 12:39:pm
@spaniarngurrly
your better off being partly african american cuz the white will never claim you, and don’t like you either so you are in the same bracket with us.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 12:42:pm
Annie is wrong, and hilarious to tell a Cuban about what THEIR heirtage. Look at Sports Journalist Dan Le Batard. He is Cuban and he looks as black as Justin Timberlake. NOT ALL CUBANS HAVE AFRICAN BLOOD. Don’t be a dumb*****
♥
4/11/08, 12:44:pm
FIRST OF ALL…Jay-Z and Beyonce’ aren’t even interesting in the first place. When was the last time either of them were on the cover of any celebrity magazine? Why would any celebrity magazine want to put these two on the cover when *****ody even cares if they are together or not anyway? It’s not a race issue, its an “entertainment” issue. Who wants to read about Beyonce’ and her gold digging ways when you can read about Britney acting crazy or Paris falling on her face. Its all about sales and business. Jay-Z and Beyonce’ are BORING. Its as simple as that. Ignorant people will call the Race card. That ***** is so old.
Annie
4/11/08, 12:44:pm
Spaniard Gurrllly,
FYI, African Americans also have Spanish and French (check Creole identity), Native American, and Anglo-Saxon (remember Sally Hemings) heritage. At the end of the day, they are perceived as black. At the end of day, as a cubana, you are perceived as a half-black or a spick. You are not from Spain. If you go to Spain, Spanairds have no problem letting you know that.
Pretty Latina
4/11/08, 12:45:pm
@ Spaniard Gurrllly
She’s absolutley right. It’s not a self-hate thing. There are in fact many Latinos that are strictly White. Their ancestors have never mixed with the other cultures. Gisele Bundchen’s parents come direct from Germany. No Black, Indian, blood running through her veins.
nico
4/11/08, 12:46:pm
Umm they arent being racist..they are selling magazines. If the m*****es arent going to buy it, why produce it? This is basic economics people. Geez. This is not a time to play the race card.
ethang
4/11/08, 12:48:pm
Like I’m supposed to care that Bey and Jay didn’t get on the cover of a magazine when these two can sleep in for a week and still rake in the dough. Feel sorry for the rest of us that have to get up early in the morning and work a full day, five days a week.
Annie
4/11/08, 12:50:pm
Common Sense: I’m cubana. You are a dumb***** for stepping in when you don’t know much about Latin identity. Most Cubans have African heritage, and we all have African cultural ties. Having black or white skin means nothing. My family is multi-colored, going from Dita Von Teese’s skin color to Beenie Man’s color. We all have Spanish, African, and Indian blood running through our veins. There is no need to discount the African part when it is so obviously a part of out culture and identity. That is called self-hate. Have you eaten Cuban food and compared it to African food? Have you compared Cuban music to African music? Cubans have been able to retain more African cultural practices than African-Americans. There are hundreds of anthropolgical and sociological research of this phenomenon. Read about it. Then comment.
walli
4/11/08, 12:50:pm
Who really cares – they have been headline news for over a year and it was boring. Why didn’t they just call the photographer that they use when they go on their vacations and have it printed it the press like they always do. Get over it. Everything is not black and white.
just saying
4/11/08, 12:51:pm
@you know i just feel like people need to understand that their lifestyle was chosen by them, that means no privacy, and it is their business, but with millions of fans that love you and made you rich ,what’s the harm in allowing them in on your happiness, not saying detailing the whole nine yards but i think their fans have a right to know, i think they are selfish, they want the money the fans bring to them but don’t wish to include them in just acknowleding the fact that their married, i have never been a fan of beyonce but their are millions who are, so i just think its foolish and selfish also a wedding is a joyous time to involve all star or not , the wedding was private understood, but damn let your folks share in your happiness since their the reason you can buy 60,000 dollar flowers and 700,000 in wedding material. when i got married i was happy and didn’t know who cared, they got those tats as rings, they probably been married
Annie
4/11/08, 12:51:pm
If you actually go to Cuba, you will see brown skin, not white skin. Cubans in Miami think that they are white, and often raise their children to hate black skin and bad hair. Fortunately, I was not raised to be a self-hater. Cubans are not white, and they never will be white.
just saying
4/11/08, 12:53:pm
ALSO THIS RACE THING IS SOMETIMES OVERRATED, WHITES CAN’T STOP YOU ANYMORE FOR DOING WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANNA DO AND THOSE MAGAZINES CATER TO THE WHITE POPULATION AND THAT DOES NOT EQUAL RACISM TO ME, JUST LIKE WE HAVE THINGS CATERED TO US AND OUR CULTURE, THAT’S JUST BUSINESS!
♥
4/11/08, 12:54:pm
@ Annie
How do african american’s have Native American Descent?
Common Sense
4/11/08, 12:56:pm
@Annie,
Just because African culture is part of Cubano Culture as a whole doesn’t mean that every Cuban should be “embracing their african identity.”
Black culture is part of American culture as a whole, but that doesn’t mean Carrie Underwood should embrace her blackness.
I have been to Cuba sweetie, I know the difference. Explain to me why a white (spanish) cuban should think of themselves as african if they in fact have no african blook? By your reasoning, black americans (who, like thier white Cuban counterparts are a minority) should embrace their Europeaness because American Culture is overwhelmingly Euro-centric and because MOST black Americans have European blood.
So, do you advocate that all the brothers and sisters on here should get down with their whiteness?
valenne
4/11/08, 12:58:pm
lol
Spanish people were controlling by the Maures in the 18 century and Maures where black! Histiry! Actually, that is why italians and Spanish are so dark!
valenne
4/11/08, 12:58:pm
were
History!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:00:pm
sorry, let me try again
spanish people were controlled by the maures. Their influence were going from Spain to Egypt! Lots of spanish, italians are so dark because they are actually mixed with black but of course, they will never admit that!
Wanjiru
4/11/08, 13:00:pm
…gimmie a break with this…they wanted to keep it private…they’ve been trying to hide their entire relationship…so if that’s what they wanted..then THEY GOT IT…
..next!!!…
.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:01:pm
I have learned that yesterday, Black people were controlling this world!!!!!
NuAgenda
4/11/08, 13:01:pm
Yea, it’s too bad she’s not with a white guy celebrity because Beyonce would get front covers left and right on those white celebrity magazines.
Her and Jay Z aren’t married anyway so they’re lucky they got whatever coverage they did anyway.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:01:pm
From Egypt, to Ethiopia, and the Maures, they were extremely powerful!
cc
4/11/08, 13:04:pm
@ Valenne
Blacks controlled the world at some point? Never heard that one LOL….I guess that didnt last very long then hu!!!
carlos
4/11/08, 13:05:pm
k so if you see things that way bet is racist.
***** OUTTA HERE WIT THAT ISH. u bossip folk are some ignorant *****
if u really gave a damn about ur people u would try to focus on important issues affecting ur communities, not this non-sense.
really how old r u guys anyway ? did u even graduate from high school ? read a damn book, get educated. you shouldn’t be allowed to speak to m*****es, especially to influencable people.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:06:pm
it last centuries
Have you ever heard of Pharaons
poor black people, they never teach us our patrimony!
We have invented mathematics, we have been the first people tho develop the concept of astrology etc…
TROPICAL BREEZE
4/11/08, 13:07:pm
blab blab blab blab
yawn … this story is getting old
its a bit worn out,
Linda
4/11/08, 13:07:pm
I don’t think this has anything to do with race, how about no one really cares if these two tied the knot. Blacks or whites.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:08:pm
have you heard of MAURES.
They have been controlling half of Europe form 711 to 1492. Maures were actually muslims and were from the norht of Africa and from mauritania (Black)!
Damn, what are they teatching you to school here??
I think all black should go to black school cuase you guys don’t know your history!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:09:pm
to develop
just me
4/11/08, 13:10:pm
I would like to see them sell to the highest bidder and donate ALL THE MONEY to “Make It Right”. New Orleans still needs to be repaired. Those are some of her people down there – I’m sure they could use the money. Brad and Angie shouldn’t be the only celebs who care enough about what’s really going on down there.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 13:11:pm
Valenne is only partly correct. The MOORS are a people now refered to as Berbers in Morroco and Tunisia (I’ve been there). They are an amalgamation of sub-saharran African (dark black skin) and northern african (See Morrocan, Libiyan, Tunisian and Egyption). So while they are dark skinned, they are not necessarily the same as africans like Nelson Mandela for instance.
Also, they were prevelant during the dark ages and early medeival times. Thus, while they certainly integrated themselvs into spanish and some italian cultural and ethnicity, they by no means were fully integrated, nor do all (more like few Spaniards or Italians) have any more African blood than your average German or French person (I mean, we’re ALL from africa). I can certainly provide links if you require.
Aoki Lee
4/11/08, 13:11:pm
That’s what they get for acting all ‘cloak & dagger’ about their relationship in the first place!
read a book
4/11/08, 13:11:pm
Hate to break it to you people but Valenne is right. Pick up a book sometimes. It does a mind good.
cc
4/11/08, 13:12:pm
@ Valenne
Uuum I think you need to go back to school. Mathematics originated with the Greeks….LOL, you are killing me. Trying to sound all intelligent. Go study!!!! And astrology DID not originate with your kind. OMG. Too funny.
Sydney
4/11/08, 13:13:pm
@Valenne
Hello
Thanks for the historical facts. Just as a FYI, people may be more familiar with the English term, Moors, for the group you’re describing.
just me
4/11/08, 13:13:pm
I thought they were Moors too. Thanks “Common Sense”
valenne
4/11/08, 13:13:pm
Do you even know that Jesus was black?!!!
carlos
4/11/08, 13:14:pm
ahahahaha race war !!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:16:pm
No mathematic were not invented by greeks!
The first civilization wich use the mathematics were the babylonian civilization and the egyptian!
The greek have just improved that!
Read again!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:16:pm
and egytpian were black!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:17:pm
and CC
you should be proud that we black people had been more than slaves!
SEXCEE
4/11/08, 13:17:pm
for Annie
You are lumping Cubans under one umbrella. Cubans are not all White, Nor all Mixed , Nor all Black. u have Black Cubans, u have white Cubans , U have mixed Cubans. I was born and raised in the Caribbean and if there is one thing we learn in school is BLACK history. THE WHOLE AFRICAN DISPORA. Not just the island we’re from. And the unique thing about it is I’ve travelled quite a bit and its amazing to actually see the things we were taught in elementary school, high school and secondary school. And meet ppl from OTHER islands who were taught the same thing as u. U can’t tell a WHITE Cuban he is BLACk. Thats aint right. CUBAN is not A RACE. Another example is Emilio Estefan , Gloria Estefan’s husband. i have heard him say with my own ears that his parents are from Lebanon, but guess what they lived in Cuba. So he is Cuban. That was when Shakira was about to release her first album. He was talking about the fact that he and Shakira has a similar background. Lebanses and Latin baground. I dont know African American has a screwed up reality of race and culture its so confusing. Thats off topic but its like when West indians move to the states they want us to refer to ourselves as African American and not West Indian or Haitian American, or Bajan American and the list goes on and on.
Sydney
4/11/08, 13:18:pm
Valenne was correct in her word usage — she was using the French translation.
Also, I believe it was Time magazine that ran a cover story years ago about origin of humans in Africa. Just found this online from a 1995 New York Times article:
“Earlier *****ysis of the DNA of the mitochondria, the tiny structures within each cell that generate its energy and that are transmitted only by the mother, indicated that all humans have as a common ancestor one woman who lived in Africa some 200,000 years ago — and inevitably has been stuck with the name Eve. All human mitochondrial DNA now extant, it seemed, derived from a single ancestral mitochondrial molecule from that place and time.”
valenne
4/11/08, 13:18:pm
which used the mathematics were the babylonian civilization and the egyptians!
bella
4/11/08, 13:19:pm
How can magazines publish Jay z and Beyonce wedding stories/pictures when they (Jay and B) are not even ADMITTING to being married? They are going out of thier way not to wear wedding rings…so its safe to *****ume that they dont even want people to konw that their married…sorry no racism there.
Dimple Pink
4/11/08, 13:20:pm
That’s what they get for acting all ‘cloak & dagger’ about their relationship in the first place!
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Exactly what I said! I’m so over this whole thing. They obviously didn’t want people to know it was going down and then to have all their friends and family deny the whole day how can they or anyone for that matter expect to get a cover?
NEXT!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:21:pm
a belgium scientific actually found a bone in Africa which proved that 25000 years befor JC , an african man was already using MATHEMATICS. It is something called the “hall of fame”. Just google it and you would be PROUD!
johnny wishbone
4/11/08, 13:22:pm
Valenne is SO right. ALL of academia started in KMT (egypt) and was done so by AFRICAN people. The libraries were destroyed by the homosexual war-monger Alexander (named ironically enough after the libraries location) ALEXANDRIA.. read a book indeed.
kgizza
4/11/08, 13:24:pm
There is a difference between racism and smart business. If a magazine ain’t gonna make as much money by putting Beyonce on the cover, why should they be socially obligated to do it? No rapper has to put images of white people on their CD cover to prove they ain’t racist.
Let’s use the race card when it is reasonable…
BAJAN
4/11/08, 13:28:pm
For bella:
I think u are missing the point.The fact that Jay and B chose to keep their marriage private is not the point.If they were white they would have gotten coverage pictures or not. White celebrities have done the same thing and they ran an old picture on trhe cover instead.. The media would have been in a FRENZY if this had been Brad and Angie and they would have put ANY picture of them on the cover of their magazine to get the story out. Thats the point. They usually ran stories without pics all the time.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 13:29:pm
Egyptians are/were NOT black. They were/are north african, which is essential a mixture of Arab and African blood. You can’t link me to one legit study or book that claims that Egyptians looked like sub-saharran africans. The Nubian kingdom was black and was known as distinct from the Egyptian..
While Cleopatra certainly didn’t look like Elizabeth Taylor, she also didn’t look like Angie Stone.
All of Valenne’s claims are typical Afrocentricism that, while good intentioned, are in fact false. No doubt history has given a the shaft to the accomplishments of “black” africans, but that doesn’t mean we have to claim that everyone was black and that we did ***** that we didn’t.
“Read a book?” Sure, please point me in the direction of the book that substantiates your claims.
Secondthatemotion
4/11/08, 13:31:pm
The only way black women get on the cover of US or People or OK! is when they get knocked up by white guys.
Now, by snide aside notwithstanding, I think we might be jumping the gun on a controversy that isn’t really controversial.
Do black women buy US in the same numbers that they buy Essence? I doubt it. While I’m sure plenty of African American women are up to snuff on their Jennifer Anniston goings-on, I doubt any of them really care what’s happening to her with the same vigor that the ‘becky’ crowds does.
I’m willing to be corrected on this, but something tells me I’m not all that wrong about it.
Congrats to those two kids though. Jay’s a lucky duck to be getting in that when the spirit moves him…
valenne
4/11/08, 13:31:pm
sorry,
the name of the bone is “ISHANGO” and is on the Hall of fame museum!
Annie
4/11/08, 13:32:pm
My point is just because a Cuban has white skin does not mean that they do not have African heritage. There is A LOT of colorism in Cuba. People disown parts of their families, and they will “p*****” like they came straight from Spain. If you were in Cuba you should know that most Cubans have brown skin. That is uncontestable. Further, even with my own WHITE complexion, I have a grandmother as black as midnight. The fact that I am white-skinned does not eliminate my African identity. Many white-skinned Cubans will tell you that it does. I have heard the conversations and listened to people try to distinguish themselves from the “darkies.” At the end of the day, it is self-hate. There is no need to go on and on about how Cubans are not SO black. The only reason you would try to emphasize this fact is if you are trying to justify the whiteness is greatness myth.
Furthermore, immigrants into a nation, like Shakira and other cited in your example, clearly do not apply to my *****ysis. Obviously if you moved to Cuba from Lebanon, you have Lebanese heritage. So, what is the point? The vast majority of Cubans cannot trace their heritage and find not a drop of African heritage. I was raised in Cuba, lived in Miami, and consider myself to be quite versed in my culture. I recognize the good and the bad. A bad part of my culture is the self-hate and the colorism. Without a question.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:35:pm
@ common sense,
my answer was not directed to you and most Egyptian were black! So you are not disagreeing with me. cleopatra was not black because she was not egyptian , she was mixed, her father was greek!
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 13:35:pm
@Commonsense, did you say you went to Morocco? Or was that just Tunisia? Morocco is definitely a place on my list to visit…absolutely love the food.
@Sydney, just wanted to let you know that last night, you, Kevin, Amber, et al were in fact conversing w/my imposter. When I checked out at 6:03 pm, I was gone!! Sorry that the imps use all kinds of excuses, ummm, yesterday it was a flat tire, or insomnia, etc. to make it seem like I’m coming back to the site. For the record, I don’t do Bossip at night…so please warn you other cyber buddies and don’t fall for the tricks of the night-time boogeyman/woman. Hope you’re having a great Friday.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:37:pm
she was half egyptian!
Sydney
4/11/08, 13:37:pm
More on the Black Pharaohs of Egpyt, and I can provide a link and list of books and other resources:
Pharaohs ruled Egypt for 3,000 years—from around 2950 B.C. until the death of Cleopatra, in 30 B.C. These all-powerful rulers, most of them indigenous Egyptians, are grouped into 30 numbered dynasties, followed by a Persian Period and finally a Greco-Roman Period, of which Cleopatra was the last sovereign.
But even during the many centuries of native Egyptian domination, a few dynasties from elsewhere held sway intermittently. The 23rd dynasty was a loose grouping of kings of Libyan origin, many of whom ruled in the Nile Delta. The 24th dynasty came to supremacy more or less simultaneously with the 23rd, at a time when parts of Egypt south of the delta were weakly controlled by Egyptians from the heartland.
Into this power vacuum came the 25th dynasty—a family group of strong kings from Nubia or Kush, south of Egypt in what is present-day Sudan. These rulers were dark skinned and bore the distinguishing facial features of sub-Saharan peoples. They swept north to the delta, reinvigorating historic forms of worship as they came, thus gaining the support of the Egyptian priests.
Modern scholars have debated the race of the ancient pharaohs as new courses of study based on Africa’s, particularly black Africa’s, contributions to Western culture and world civilization have arisen over the past three decades. But whatever the skin color of the native Egyptian pharaohs, there’s no dispute that during the 25th dynasty all of Egypt answered to black pharaohs who hailed from deep within Africa.
Simply Ecstasy
4/11/08, 13:37:pm
There probably wasn’t much press about it because they DENIED it and remain hush-hush about the whole situation. How can you put somehting on your cover that you’re not even sure even happened?
valenne
4/11/08, 13:38:pm
and you can read any book that is talking about the rgyptian civilization or you can just read any religion book like Coran, even the Bible, it is a good history book!
Sydney
4/11/08, 13:39:pm
@JSABP
You mean I was tricked again? I give up! Did you see my poster with my recommendation for you to remove your pic?
Hopefully, I can leave the office early today
It’s beautiful outside!
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 13:45:pm
BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE MOST RACISM OF ALL RACES. BEFORE WE HAVE THE NERVE TO WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO STOP BEING RACIST WE MUST FIRST LOOK AT OUR OWN COMMUNITIES AND WITHIN OUR OWN CULTURE. COOL IT!!!!!! AND ANOTHER THING WHO IS BEYONCE AND JAY BEING SECRETIVE WITH? I AM SURE EVERYONE IN THEIR FAMILY AND CLOSE FRIENDS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THEM. THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE KNOW!!!!!!!!! WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO GO ON BLOGS, GOSSIP SIGHTS AND INTERVIEW WITH MAGAZINES WHO ARE THEY ATTEMPTING TO GAIN APPROVAL FROM? JAY AND BEE HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO DO THAT. RESPECT IT. MOVE ON.
Real
4/11/08, 13:47:pm
If they didnt work so hard to keep the media away from their wedding, I think it would have gotten more notice from the press.
I dont think they care about the press looking the other way, seems to be the way they want it.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:47:pm
the DNA *****ysis have proved that the descents of Egytpians are nubians and Koushistes who are black so at that time, they were black!they were building the pyramides, studying mathematics …
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 13:50:pm
@Simply Ecstasy
How can you put somehting on your cover that you’re not even sure even happened? I AGREE.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 13:51:pm
Again, Valenne. Name a book.
“Read any book” Well, I have, many and as Sydney correctly stated, the kingdom of Nubia was black and that is the only evidence of truly dark skinned africans ruling Egypt. No genentic studies of Egyptian ruins have been able to link any with any certainty any other genetic connection between black africans and Egyptians. They looked then like they look now, North African.
@Just sit and be pretty:
I’ve been to Morrocco and the food was great, but you’ve got to be careful. It was an amazing experience and it was the first time I was in a country that was predominantly Muslim in its culture and people. But Morrocco (the cities moreso) is a very western friendly country and you can go to the beach and see women swimming in Birkas and then see a pretty Morroccan girl in a bikini. Very unique experience.
valenne
4/11/08, 13:53:pm
@ common sense,
i have read lots of article that were proven that the egyptians were black! i don’t understand you!
valenne
4/11/08, 13:54:pm
i don’t know if we supposed to doubt the result of scientific study otherwise, we can doubt anything now!!
Common Sense
4/11/08, 13:54:pm
@Annie
Your logic is convoluted at best. Just because YOU look white and have a darked skinned grandma, doesn’t mean that my cuban friend whose family came to cuba from Spain in the late 1800’s and is entirely spanish by blood should have any connection with being Afro-Cuban. AGAIN, by YOUR LOGIC, black people should not deny their Europeaness because they are surrounded by Europeans and almost all black americans have European blood.
Does that make sense. Are we self-hating if we don’t see ourselves as white and embrace our English Heritage????
Don’t ignore the question please.
Common Sense
4/11/08, 13:55:pm
@Valenne
Name them dear. Name the books and or link me to them. Otherwise, you are just talking out of your *****.
Real
4/11/08, 13:57:pm
@Trusted Source
As usual I agree with you.
*****ody likes to be put down beacuse they are black, white asian, or any other race.
*****ody is imune to that.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 14:02:pm
@Syd, girl yes…once again Cujo struck and you were bitten!! It’s amazing because as much drinking as I supposedly do in the evenings and all the alcholic references, I might soon be in need of a 12-step program. I mean really, how much Shiraz or cosmos can I drink every night without running into problems?
Seriously, whoever that character(s) may be, it’s apparent they really are lonely and screaming for conversation/attention.
I saw your remarks/recommendation and am considering some options. Last time I checked, even though internet laws are evolving, cyberstalking is considered a crime. I always say that I don’t have a problem with someone coming at me sideways a million times (using their own ish) because I can more than handle myself. However, when you continually engage in unlawfully using my image to harr*****, or post inappropriate/vulgar material…well to me, a line is crossed and there is a concerted effort to defame one’s character.
Yes, the weather is supposed to be gorgeous today…even though it’s going to rain tonight into tomorrow. I can’t wait for spring to jump into full gear!!
Real
4/11/08, 14:02:pm
Valenne might be on to something.
Saw a do*****entary on Discovery Channel not long ago on Jesus, turns out he was indeed black, if he came from the area of Egypt the Bible claims.
Looks wise, he would be considered more “black african” in looks than middle eastern, or arab.
Nik
4/11/08, 14:03:pm
Correction, two of the big five focused on the wedding. I saw it in CVS today. And the other 3 each focused on Heath Ledger’s alleged love chi;d. J.lo and i guess Jennifer Aniston. If anything, we won!
Racist? I don’t agree. I say the tabloids, like everyone else, got tired of hearing them two are either going to get engaged, engaged or secretly married. And to top it off everyone’s denying the thing happened! How are you going to report on something that never happened! isn’t that bad journalism? Quite frankly I could give two *****s if they got married. OK congrats! next!
And i concur with what kgizza said, use the race card when appropriate! everything is not about race black people and no i am not disillusioned. I know the difference.
For example, People Mag not focusing on Beyonce’s and Jay’s wedding = not racist
Lou Dobbs almost calling Condoleeza Rice a Cotton picking politician = racist (look up the video on youtube)
And I’m Done!
valenne
4/11/08, 14:05:pm
@ Real,
and guess what, there is a theroy that he even might have dread locks because he was from nazareth and at that time, men was not allowed to cut their hair and not comb! so i know some rastas that are proud to say that jesus was a rasta. Its funny lol
you know
4/11/08, 14:10:pm
just saying
@you know i just feel like people need to understand that their lifestyle was chosen by them, that means no privacy, and it is their business, but with millions of fans that love you and made you rich ,what’s the harm in allowing them in on your happiness, not saying detailing the whole nine yards but i think their fans have a right to know, i think they are selfish, they want the money the fans bring to them but don’t wish to include them in just acknowleding the fact that their married, i have never been a fan of beyonce but their are millions who are, so i just think its foolish and selfish also a wedding is a joyous time to involve all star or not , the wedding was private understood, but damn let your folks share in your happiness since their the reason you can buy 60,000 dollar flowers and 700,000 in wedding material. when i got married i was happy and didn’t know who cared, they got those tats as rings, they probably been married
Understand what you’re saying and I agree b/c I am a beyonce fan and wish her nothing but happinesss but look the industry she is in. Every little thing she does is scrutinized. I can completely understand why she would want something sacred and special that not everyone gets to have. I mean really her entire life is on display. The media wants to tell every personal detail. I don’t know about you but I would not want ppl following me around constantly taking pictures and talking bad about me.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 14:11:pm
@Common, wow, that’s great!! In my neck of the woods, one of my favorite restaurants is a Taste of Morocco, which has some the best pastilla I’ve ever had. At first, the combination of the pastry filled with chicken, cinnamon, etc. was a strange combo for me, but now…I can’t get enough of it!
When I go, I definitely will do the big city thing (Casablanca, etc.). However, then I want to go outside of the city and really get a feel of the countryside/mountains.
K-ten
4/11/08, 14:11:pm
america has a LOT to answer for..all this racism stuff is ridiculous..but its gone on for so long that you cant even get *****ed about it anymore.
C.C.
4/11/08, 14:14:pm
This is the craziest s**t I have ever heard. If Blacks can sell millions of albums, theater, movie, and concert tickets, how in the hell can they not sell magazines? Why don’t these publishers just say what they mean. They don’t like to put Black people on the cover of their magazines because they would rather promote anyone or anything that is White, as this maintains the status quo and ensures that Blacks continue to see themselves as less valuable than white people. We know that’s the truth, so why not just admit it?
get your facts straight
4/11/08, 14:15:pm
For the idiots talking about when was the last time Bey was on the cover of a magazine. Are you serious or just dumb? Beyonce has been on the cover of over 183 magazines already. She was even the first singer on the cover of Sports Illustrated so stop lying to yourself. Beyonce is a-list, very mainstream, and the most popular BLACK female artist in the world. Now Jay on the other hand yeah he’s not mainstream which is why it’s just Bey on the cover of PEOPLE and US WEEKLY but she is on the covers. Oh and Beyonce does have personality and she is not boring. Some of you are lying to yourselves seriously. If she is so boring and has no personality then why is she the most discussed black female artist and the most successful of this generation? I mean really you are lying to yourself if you think people dont find her interesting.She gets talked about 24/7 especially on blogs and on posts that even not about her. At least she has talent I would rather all this hoopla be about a talented singer instead of no talent robots like rihanna or c*****ie. But seriously this was all over the world and even CNN was talking about this wedding. So to those of you saying ‘*****ody cares’ sorry but you couldnt be any further from the truth. You can say you like Alicia Keys, Jill Scott, etc better and that they do this and that but Beyonce is still doing better than them on everything. I’m just stating facts because some people on here are really in denial. Race has nothing to do with it, the second Bey and Jay release a pic or confirmation it will be on every mag cover, even though they got just about every mag cover already. I mean Beyonce is on the cover of PEOPLE AND US WEEKLY two of the biggest magazines today, so what are ya’ll taking about?
Common Sense
4/11/08, 14:15:pm
@Pretty
Marrakech is a good place to visit as well as Casablanca (Marrakech is less modern with more old mosques and an amazing old school market). I definitely would reccomend going into the mountain. I stayed there for 3 days and it was my favorite part.
Also, try Essaouira. It’s a beautiful town on the west coast where Jimi Hendrix used to stay (he wrote the song ‘castles made of sand’ there). Very pretty.
thatsbull00
4/11/08, 14:16:pm
I didnt even read the comments but I know a bunch of people are agreeing that they shouldnt get top story for whatever reason they think is justifiable.
Like her or not she is one of the Top faces of Black music and so is Jay. They didnt cover anyone Black wedding at all ever really.
thatsbull00
4/11/08, 14:18:pm
And one main reason is supposedly because they were secretive about it? Well I follow those Tabloids and many celebrities dont say anything but sure nuff be on the cover in a 6 page spread on a bunch of bull and accusations
just saying
4/11/08, 14:24:pm
@you know saying that your married is not detailing your life to the world, i still think her fans that made her rich deserve to know from her, they made her rich and so did jay, they didn’t become rich by themselves, so i still feel that saying your married and in love is not telling your whole life story to the world. telling is not going to make or break the marriage, so i still feel the same way, but i also think she likes this little attention because truly the media has not been checking for her lately and this is right up her and jays alley. look at mary she bigger than beyonce, it hasn’t affected her privacy with her man we don’t know what goes on we just know they married like any other married couple. its like they really need to get over themselves cuz really noone cares like that she is the one keeping the media hungry by not saying it, cuz they no as soon as they admit they will be back on the back burner
Keepin' It Real (D'Original)
4/11/08, 14:27:pm
@Valenne
Question: From what you’ve heard and your opinion, do the people in France dislike it when Black Celebrities (Jay-Z & Beyonce, Diddy, etc…) vacation in St. Tropez?
Just curious – Thanks in advance…
KD
4/11/08, 14:31:pm
“look at mary she bigger than beyonce”
*DEAD* at this comment.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 14:33:pm
@Common, thanks *as I take notes*!! One of my “fun” goals is to visit a new country every year and next year, Morocco might just be it!!
valenne
4/11/08, 14:35:pm
@ keep it Real,
No i don’t think so.
Anytime, Puff Daddy is doing his “white” party, they talk about that all WEEK. He used to do that almost every summer right??
ashley
4/11/08, 14:37:pm
The magazines aren’t racist but the fact could be is that Black people do NOT sell covers. The people that go to the stores and purchases these magazines are just not interested in someone thats is on the covers that happens to be black. Why should the magazine fork over millions when they know that beyonce wont sell? If knew J.lo wouldnt sale or if they knew Britney wouldn’t sell they wouldnt give them the money. In this situation the race card does not apply. Don’t blame the magazines…
ethang
4/11/08, 14:39:pm
Guess who’s on the cover of today’s People?
Beyonce.
300 comments for nothing.
ma
4/11/08, 14:40:pm
just went to the newstand: beyonce is the MAIN cover on US weekly and People magazine, and featured on ALL the other ones on the FIRST page.
bossip is making no sense as usual…
ma
4/11/08, 14:41:pm
correction: meant COVER page not first page
lovely and amazing
4/11/08, 14:42:pm
Black people are the most racist to eachother. Black people are downright evil to eachother and set out any chance they get to sabotage and destroy eachother’s progress and success. When it serves them, black folks will even join forces with racist whites to detsroy another black person they envy or resent for doing something to uplift. From selling eachother to slavery to killing eachother off in Rwanda and Haiti and the black communities across the US, black people, people of African descent, are their own worst enemies and liberal whites laugh at black folks all the way their bank where they are rich off of black self-hatred dollars.
Jay is a business man. He knows the racist media. And he knows his cultural capital is more valuable in secrecy than handing over his person business for crumbs. His attitude and success speak volumes: Jay don’t sell or settle for crumbs.
When and if they do decide to share wedding photos let it be on the cover of Forbes when they both make the top earning lists AGAIN. Congrats JB, no selling out and no settling for racist crumbs.
Atlanta SEO
4/11/08, 14:44:pm
Unfortunately, AA covers hardly ever do well in many distribution areas, especially in the south and rural mid-west markets.
I’ve been in the publishing business for over 10 years, and honestly, when a choice is made for the cover, it’s all business–what will sell the most for their particular book & market *****e.
I wouldn’t cast blame onto the publishing companies, as this issue isn’t a new one by any means, and perhaps is an eye opening insight into the buying habits/preferences of many American consumers.
Rizzle
4/11/08, 14:46:pm
Bossip you make yourselves look stupid with statements like this… 1) Beyonce is on plenty of covers 2)magazines aren’t non-profit entities they want to sell as many magazines as possible meaning they will put whoever sells the most magazines on the cover. they don’t care about black or white they care about green. 3) you all are more ignorant than the people you gossip about.
i’ve finally come to realize how much time i waste reading this nonsense. i think my blog addiction has been cured… thanks bossip.
beautiful
4/11/08, 14:47:pm
FYI, Bee’s cover of Sports Illustrated was the highest sold swim suit issue in SI’s history.
DA TRUFF HURTZ!!!
4/11/08, 14:49:pm
THIS IS DUMB A$$ NON$EN$SE!!!
ARE EBONY-ESSENCE-JET-KING-SMOOTH-XXL-THE SOURCE-SISTER TO SISTER- AND OTHERS RACIST BECAUSE THEY DON’T FEATURE WHITES???
EVERY MAGAZINE, TV SHOW, MOVIE, BOOK, WEB SITE, & NITE CLUB HAS A TARGET MARKET. THEY FIGURE OUT WHO THEY WANT TO PLEASE AND THEN GO ABOUT DOING IT!!!
IF YOU DON’T WANT JENNIFER ANISTON ON THE COVER OF ESSENCE THEN DON’T GET PI$$ED WHEN BEY-ONCE OR ALCIA AIN’T ON THEIRS!!!!!!!
KCS
4/11/08, 14:50:pm
***** Beyonce! Newsweek put a black woman on their cover when they featured Michelle Obama how many of you ran out to buy that in show of support? That’s why we’re hardly featured on mainstream magazines – blacks don’t support them, so the covers don’t sell.
Whatchaknoaboutdat?
4/11/08, 14:51:pm
Whether it mag cover or other kind of stories I thnk that 98% of white ppl are naturally racist even though they try to down play it public settings. I think that other ethnicity that also pick up on that social behavior and they try and be like them too. We as black ppl have been fighting against blatant racism for decades… and me MUST continue to fight against it until things change for all of us.
It’s runs deep…
Secondthatemotion
4/11/08, 14:51:pm
If Beyonce was pregnant with Tom Hanks’ baby, she’s be on the cover of:
US Weekly (definitely)
People (ditto)
USA Today (yep)
The Economist (maybe)
Rolling Stone (maybe, depends on what was happing with LiLo)
VIBE (the special ‘What’s wrong with Black Women’ edition)
Jet (definately…they but Garcelle on the cover with her two albino chicklets)
$m♥K.E.Y.
4/11/08, 14:59:pm
Secondthatemotion
Jet (definately…they but Garcelle on the cover with her two albino chicklets)
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DEAD @ you calling her kids chicklets
DEAD
DEAD
i had to grab my chest to stop from going into a seizure
ashley
4/11/08, 15:03:pm
IT is fair to say Bossip is run by a bunch of unintelligent people that just like to start *****. You know the girls that were just “messy” in high school and ALWAYS lied. Even when they happened to tell the truth you still wouldn’t believe them because they were straight up dissing everyone.
Nappi Nappz
4/11/08, 15:10:pm
HEY FAKE AZZ EDDIE MURPHY AND HIS FAKE AZZ WEDDING TO TRACY EDMONDS MADE THE COVER OF PEOPLE???? SO IT’S THE REAL FOLKS THAT DO NOT MAKE THE COVER….BUT WHO CARES….WHITE FOLKS ARE SOOOO DAYM “WACKED” AND WEDDINGS ARE A JOKE TO THEM…..EVA LAG-”HO”-A….WHO NEEDS THAT BULLSHYT ANYWAY…IF HER HUSBAND WAS A MEXICAN PICKING FRUIT IN SAN DIEGO OR TEXAS IT WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THE COVER EITHER….HER HUSBAND IS OF AFRICAN DESCENT WITH $$$$$$$……MR. PARKER NEEDS TO WAKE UP SOONER OR LATER. DON’T LET HIS AZZ GET HURT EITHER!
ma
4/11/08, 15:13:pm
@ NAPPI NAPZ, why dont you go look at the cover of people magazine today and come back tell us whats on it!
AZShakur
4/11/08, 15:16:pm
Y do we argue about stupid *****. We all know all of the islands have African blood. If you don’t know get to know. We all know America has many faults. One is its treatment of blackfolks, and for anyone who tries to say otherwise is an idiot and unaware of the historical ramifications. If u say other ethnicities come here and advance faster than blacks. OK u proved my point. Whites always *****imilate others within their own culture. Y is there an arab owning a store in every hood b/c they get loans easily. PLs dispute me on this. Y are hispanics accepted b/c alot of them can p***** and white people accept that. I’m not bitter, and don’t come from the lt bc I am a Lawyer,and I do know what is actually going on in America.
valenne
4/11/08, 15:21:pm
why asians people are selling us hair products when we should be the one that own those stores??!!! That has always been a mystery lol
valenne
4/11/08, 15:24:pm
@ azshakur,
are you sure they really get loans or is it because they have a big network and help themselves?!! Because i know chinese people get loans form their countries, sometimes mafia and open their restaurants here!
making no sense as usual
4/11/08, 15:24:pm
first off like some stated b4 she’s on 2 major cover’s People and US Weekly.
What I don’t understand is how this one woman who is supposedly overexposed garners over 300 hundred post on alledged info and not a factual statement from the people that supposedly wed., when people are sick and tired of her. It really is funny because when she’s smiling for the camera people are like she always trying to be seen or calling the paps on every vacation or what not, but then when she doesn’t show her face in 2 or 3 pics she’s being (stupid, brand new, stuck up, or not showing her fans appreciation). It seems to me that the haters couldn’t do their jobs properly if bey wasn’t doing the norm and even when she switches up there’s still something negative. If you tired of hearing about her stop responding and they’ll stop posting ***** for the”Stans” because all the stans no where to go for their beyonce fix. And then when *****’s posted for the fans all these bloggers stop coming to Beyonceworld stealing photos and info(statements) and posting them to get more hits. So if those who don’t care but think she owes the fans pics or whatever piece of herself, which she doesn’t owe any of us including me don’t come running and gunning foke down for the first glimpse.
And keeping it real angelina will get a week or more of press and mag covers about an alleged pregnancy, never confirming wheter or not it’s true, and the media will later find out when they see the baby bump. And has still never admitted being preggers. Same thing with J.Lo, waited months b4 fessing up to the obvious but it was no big deal. The point is let it go and stop the madness because there truely are bigger issues at hand like getting this idiot out of the damn whitehouse.
AZShakur
4/11/08, 15:32:pm
@ Valenne, I’m from the South. SC 2 b exact and I’ve actually won 2 discrimination cases based on loans. They loans set aside for first generation immigrants.
AZShakur
4/11/08, 15:34:pm
and some of it has to do with their network. They do tend to help their own more than we do, or any ther ethnic group for that matter
valenne
4/11/08, 15:36:pm
Alright!
but how can you prove that there was discrimination because you know sometimes you can have the right finance, a good business plan etc.. and still not have the loan
valenne
4/11/08, 15:37:pm
yes, but their help is not free. Most of the time, the money is coming from the MAFIA, the interest are really high and if they don’t reimbourse, they know someone from their family would be dead within the week!
va
4/11/08, 15:39:pm
Who said beyonce and jayz were african american! They look like a bunch a sell outs to me!
MANDDY
4/11/08, 15:40:pm
Exactly, beyonce is on the COVER OF BOTH PEOPLE AND US and is featured in the rest. Isn’t that as much publicity they’ll give to a Brangelina wedding if no pictures were taken of the event?
Keepin' It Real (D'Original)
4/11/08, 15:42:pm
@ashley
Naw, Bossip is just like any other business and that is to make a profit, and in the internet game it’s to get more “clicks” which in turn allows you to charge more to companies that want to advertise on your website…
That’s why they
(1) will without a doubt – at a MINIMUM post at least one story once a week – newsworthy or NOT about: Rihanna, Beyonce, Interracial Dating, or (my personal favorite) an a$$ shot
(2) put an unrelated or unflattering picture to the story,
(3) word a caption in a way after the said quote that will “rile” some people up (*who fall for it time after time)…
*speaking of “rile some people up”, PLEASE ignore the people who say racist stuff in these threads, you know their intentions – just IGNORE them, there’s no need to address them…
Haven’t ya’ll noticed the decent advertisers that Bossip has been getting as of late (I know them jealous fat b#tches at Bossip love the fact that I’m bringing attention to the advertisers) and even though they diss Diddy on the regular he still advertises his products on this site…
MANDDY
4/11/08, 15:45:pm
Isn’t PEOPLE THE TOP MAGAZINE. THIS STORY IS VERY BOGUS.
AZShakur
4/11/08, 15:50:pm
@Valenne, bc when u have discovery you get the opportunity to see both parties credit ratings and in both cases my clients had A1 credit and the only difference was that it would cst the banks less money to back an immigrant.
jogger
4/11/08, 15:51:pm
I just skimmed all this random talk about Egyptians, etc. Did you know that Africans from North East Africa (bronze skin, soft wooly hair, narrow features) discriminate against the “Bantu” Africans (black skin, co*****r hair, full lips, wide noses) ? Did you know that the non-Bantu Somalian government is slaughtering the Bantus? Talk about REAL racism that needs to be addressed within the BLACK community AROUND the world. …and we are worried about magazines?????
AZShakur
4/11/08, 15:53:pm
@Jogger I can’t argue you are correct and I agree
valenne
4/11/08, 15:59:pm
i agree with that too!!
I am bantu and i know people from North Africa don’t like us!
you know
4/11/08, 15:59:pm
just saying
@you know saying that your married is not detailing your life to the world, i still think her fans that made her rich deserve to know from her, they made her rich and so did jay, they didn’t become rich by themselves, so i still feel that saying your married and in love is not telling your whole life story to the world. telling is not going to make or break the marriage, so i still feel the same way, but i also think she likes this little attention because truly the media has not been checking for her lately and this is right up her and jays alley. look at mary she bigger than beyonce, it hasn’t affected her privacy with her man we don’t know what goes on we just know they married like any other married couple. its like they really need to get over themselves cuz really noone cares like that she is the one keeping the media hungry by not saying it, cuz they no as soon as they admit they will be back on the back burner
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I agree. Saying I’m married and in love is not detailing your entire life but you and I both know that the media hogs don’t stop with just that. They pry and want to know every little detail. That’s the whole point. As far as them being on the back burner you are gonna have to fall back on that. Bey grossed 54 million last year and Jay made 115. Neither of them have to work another day in their life so trying to stay on the front, middle, or back burner is irrelevant. They’ve already made their millions. They don’t have to do ***** else. Neither do their grandkids for that matter. Like I said, they are grown and can tell or not tell whatever they want. I don’t see why so many ppl are so concerned with it. It’s their life.
you know
4/11/08, 16:00:pm
valenne
why asians people are selling us hair products when we should be the one that own those stores??!!! That has always been a mystery lol
^^^^^ the worst part is that the white folks manufacture those products and they are ALL bad for our hair and yet we run out and buy it. It’s laughable. No wonder blacks still get no respect in this country. Look at the stupid ish we do.
lovely and amazing
4/11/08, 16:07:pm
Negrodamus Wrote:
Negrodamus believes a magazine showing real white
people is needed. Not these ultra left wing nuts in Hollywood..So “I Know White People” is officially in publication.
1. Sports
If you’ve been in a white person’s apartment or home you might have noticed a ball that looks like a cross between an egg and a football. It is a Rugby ball and it is an important sport for white people.
2.St Patrick’s Day
This very special white holiday recognizes Saint Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland who helped to bring Catholicism to the Emerald Isle. His ascetic life is celebrated every year by white people drinking large amounts of Irish-themed alcohol and listening to Ska Music. Normally if someone were to wake up at 7:00 in the morning, take the day off work, and get drunk at a bar before 10:00 a.m., they would be called an alcoholic, and not in the artistic, edgy way that white people are so fond of.
3.Having Gay Friends
If white people could draft friends the way that the NFL drafts prospects it would go like this: black friends, gay friends, and then all other minorities would be drafted based on need and rarity to the region.
4.The Idea of Soccer
Many white people will tell you that they are very into soccer. But be careful, it’s a trap.
If you then attempt to engage them about your favorite soccer team or talk about famous moments in soccer history, you are likely to be met with blank stares. This is because white people don’t actually enjoy watching soccer, they just like telling their friends that they are into it.
In fact, the main reason white people like soccer is so they can buy a new scarf. As you may or may not know, many soccer teams issue special scarves, and white people cannot get enough of them!
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Negrodamus is a mfing genius! If I didn’t enjoy his posts so much I’d say stop giving them away for free. I and many others are ready to buy your book. Paul Mooney, are you watching? Put Negrodamus on tour with you!
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Obama 2008!
Yes We Can!
AZShakur
4/11/08, 16:14:pm
@you know Negrodamus is MF and I appreciate that. But Peace and Love Black People I’m out. God Bless and have a great wkend
TOODLES
4/11/08, 16:33:pm
BOSSIP HOW ARE YOU SICK OF THE RACIST BULLCRAP WHEN YOU CONTRIBUTE TO IT..ALWAYS DOWNING SUCCESSFUL BLACK WOMEN AND CREATING CONTROVERSY WITH YOUR SWIRL..AND CALL DARK PEOPLE MIDNIGHT? PLEASE LOOK IN THE MIRROR BCUZ YOU ARE LIKE A TYPICAL UNEDUCATED ..UNINFORMED MEDIA OUTLET..XCEPT YOUR A DUMB BLOG
Michelle
4/11/08, 16:34:pm
I constantly get pop-ups from Bossip even with my spam blocker on. I get a TV bytes, or something like that, all the time from Bossip that I have to close right away. They make money from advertisers whether we click on ads or not!
always in something
4/11/08, 16:37:pm
who cares they dont wont to show *****ody pictures anyways it’s bad enought they wont even admit that their’re married cant yall see that jayz and beyonce is playing games with us they’re loveing the fact that people are going crazy over tham.
TruthBeTold
4/11/08, 16:41:pm
I HAVE TO POST ABOUT THIS MESS RIGHT HERE. I UNDERSTAND THAT BLACK CELEBRITIES DON’T MAKE THE COVER AS OFTEN AS WHITE CELEBRITES BUT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT TABLOIDS ANYWAY. SO WHY SHOULD IT MATTER? ANOTHER THING IS HOW CAN BOSSIP.COM OR ANYONE THAT POSTING IN AGREEMENT WITH BOSSIP BE MAD OR HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT WHEN BEYONCE AND JAYZ AREN’T EVEN ADMITTING THAT THEY’RE MARRIED…LOL HELLO PEOPLE. LAST TIME I’VE CHECKED AS FAR AS MAGIZINES AND COVERS GO THEY’RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT RIHANNA,HALLE, BEYONCE,TYRA, OPRAH OR NAOMI. SO *****ODY IS OBJECTIVE TO THAT FACT THAT HALLE AND BEYONCE HAVE MORE COVERS ON MAINSTREAM WHITE MAGS THAN NAOMI. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THEY’RE P*****ING…RIHANNA,BEYONCE, TYRA AND HALLE ARE P*****ING BLACK WOMEN. THAT’S EVEN ACCEPTABLE BY THE BLACK MEDIA. BLACK MEDIA PROMOTES THOSE WOMEN BECAUSE THEY’RE P*****ING MORE THAN WOMEN WHO ARE DARKER THAN THEM. QUESTION BLACK/MAINSTREAM MEDIA BEFORE YOU QUESTION WHITE/MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
Sybil Blaize
4/11/08, 16:42:pm
JSABP um how did u get an “imposter” anyway? with that Black Panter Movement lookin pic u got LOLlll
This is crazy..
brown sugar
4/11/08, 16:43:pm
beyonce looks like a drag queen in that pic.
jjj
4/11/08, 16:45:pm
It is not racism! Read between the lines… The media are tired of the black secretive two!!!!
Who cares though????????
LarryLove
4/11/08, 16:46:pm
See there you go , begging white people to accept you. UGH. They black *****es was running around for 2 years with this fake we gonna get married BS. They need to go STFD immediately.
TruthBeTold
4/11/08, 16:48:pm
BY THE WAY YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO PEOPLE WHO GAINED CELEBRITY, FORTUNE AND FAME BY SELLING SEX, DRUGS AND VIOLENCE. SO CONGRATS TO THE POWER COUPLE…WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE UPSET AGAIN? ONE DAY WHEN YOUR SON(S) COME TO YOU TALKING ABOUT HOW HE GOING TO BE A HUSTLER,GANSTER LIKE JAY Z OR YOUR DAUGHTER(S) WALKING AROUND CLAPPING HER ***** BECAUSE SHE THINKS IT CUTE TELLING YOU IT’S THE NEW BEYONCE DANCE….WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND TO THAT? I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO START READING INBETWEEN THE LINES. IT’S JUST THAT SO MUCH BULL***** IS SHOVED IN OUR FACES EVERYDAY THAT WE FORGET WHAT THE IMPORTANT ISSUES IN THE WORLD ARE….THINK ABOUT THAT PLEASE!
just saying
4/11/08, 16:57:pm
@making no sense cuz we bored!
MMC
4/11/08, 16:58:pm
I agree with Donavan.
On top of that..we don’t even know if she’s married or not..just pure speculation. Beyonce is a private individual and a wedding on the other hand should be private as well. But we don’t know if it happened. And even if it did, it’s Beyonce’s and Jay-z’s business if they want the pictures of their wedding to be posted
just saying
4/11/08, 17:01:pm
@you know it was nice conversating with you,even though we disagree slightly, now about the back burner true she might have sold alot records just like numerous of other artists that’s not unheard of but to the stans they love quoting that, anyway, still she is not the it girl right now, i hate to say it rhianna is the it girl for the moment i agree she can’t sing but the media is tired of beyonce and they bringing up the next it girl just like history repeats itselfs their were it girls before beyonce and surely after her its a cycle but i respect your opinion and i wasn’t calling you a stan in this post i was just saying some people quote that likes she is the only one sells records
kiki
4/11/08, 17:04:pm
I can’t believe them haters would even say some mess like that! I really wanna see those pictures, but if they is gonna compare BeyJay to the likes of Britney Spears and Jeniffer Aniston, and then have the nerve to say that covers of those to caucasian women would sell more covers than my favorite couple Beyonce and Jay-Z, then no, I don’t think the mag deserves the photos. Bey and Jay should put the pics in a black magazine, like Jet, Essence or Vibe.
Will
4/11/08, 17:20:pm
Sure bossip try to come to the defense of JAY-Z and BEYONCE now after calling him CAMEL with your other storys. Please save me this “we need to support our black folk defense article” You are the reason why they didnt make the cover.
always in something
4/11/08, 17:31:pm
biossip.com needs to stops trying to find reason why jayz/beyonce is not gaveing them pictures of there wedding.and please dont even try to compare beyonce and jayz up with britney spears and kevin *****. for one you dont see beyonce doing drugs,in jail,*****ing every thing in hollywood how many man have you seen her with other than jayz none so dont get mad because she dont act like none of them. the only reason why you dont see that many black facees on thoes magazines well let me put it this way and i dont give a damn who gets mad at me!!black people dont do ***** like that……..trust me if they did yall best to belive that their’re getting payed for it…
Beyonce #1 Fan
4/11/08, 17:31:pm
Come on beyonce you making these hata’s glad. They spreading rumors talking about you got played and jayz didnt want to marry you once you walked down the alter and the wedding is anulled. Hata’s looking @ you like you got played. Shame these hata’s and flash that roc and tell you fans your married. Those jealous *****es aint jealous anymore cause you look like a fool. Your man aint even wearing his ring. Say what you want but beyonce is making ya’ll hata’s happy, this is the day they all wanted to see when you looked played. Being your number one fan, you do look played my day. You represent us light skin *****es, you keep it real, I love your music, but now you making us high yella *****es look like desperate fools. You are a dime beyonce all the *****es jealous of you and you going to ***** up like this? I know you want to keep your life secret, but right now you making hata’s happy as *****. Shame them hata’s. When you comming out with your next album and flash that ring!
Your fans are depending on you, you represent the high yella dimes. Those darkskin *****es just waiting for the day you will ***** up and get played. They don’t look better than you so you know they want to fault find. Now you giving them something to run with. If you read this blog beyonce I’m your number #1 high yella bootylicious fan. Redbone *****es run this *****, and these darkskin ugly *****es waiting for the day you fall. Please put them to shame and sport that ring and tell the media. Not to blast your business, but because you aint saying nuttin. I’m hearing all types of *****. I even heard that jayz don’t love you and you fake the wedding to try to keep rihanna away. I heard it was really a party where you told everyone to where certain tux & ball dresses in certain colors so you you can trick the media into thinking it’s a wedding.
Beyonce ***** these hata’s girl i’m telling you they piling up hating as ugly *****es just mad cause you look betta.
msaquar
4/11/08, 17:32:pm
hahahah!!!! THats what you get racist ***** bossip!!!suck on that all day when you post nothing but bull***** and nastiness about anyone that isnt black, and i mean ANYONE!!! This is the most racist web page ever, and at least you know who’s in charge. Whoever writes this page is an insult to black folks everywhere…..Black people are kind as warm and generous…. BOssip writer/s are nothing but jealous of anyone non black, especially whites. If you go through history, you will see that every single white person this blogger mentions gets insulted, and most of the black trainwrecks are just skimmed over. Disgusting, this is racism at it’s worst, stop hating on those who aren’t black because you feel below others. Make yourself BETTER!
ti-ray
4/11/08, 17:34:pm
BOSSIP
weren’t YOU the site that: ALWAYS DISSES BEYOUNCE?
weren’t YOU the site that: calls jay-z…JOE CAMEL?
WHY JUMP SIDES?
DO YOU LIKE THEM?
DO YOU HATE THEM?
HOW OLD ARE YOU BOSSIP?
THINK
wad up
4/11/08, 17:35:pm
@intenzemocha
And ur satisfied with being labelled a second cl***** citizen? Because that is the impression I got from ur post.No wonder the rest of america don’t respect us.We see ourselves as second cl***** so why should they see us ne different SMH!!
Beyonce #1 Fan
4/11/08, 17:41:pm
Damn I hate darkskin *****es, they all up in this blog with their ugly ***** photo’s hating. You see the lightskin *****es aint hating. Lightskin women are SECURE and we are not filled with hate. Like ya’ll darkskin dirty *****es. All darkskin *****es look dirty. Ya’ll hating on beyonce cause she lightskin. Ya’ll know it. Beyonce look better than all her hata’s. Light skin girls aint intemidated by bey,,we buy her ***** and bump in the club cause we lightskin and get attention just likeher. But darksin *****es feel played in the club, thats why they frown when beyonce comes on, cause they know their man dreaming about some light skin wet *****. Dark skin babies are the back burner baby mama’s while us lightskin get attention and ride in the front seat. Ya’ll hate on bey, and want her to got out of style because you JEALOUS. Her music ROCKS, jayz is in love with her, why would he pick any other girl over beyonce, she’s the richest lightskin girl in the game. I be glad when beyonce wedding pics surf the net to shut you hating ***** *****es up. There should have never been a such thing as a darkskin hoodrat bum. All dark skin girls get played cause men don’t like darkskin women, thats why ya’ll want to see beyonce get played.
KENNY
4/11/08, 17:46:pm
IF THEY HAVEN’T CONFIRMED ANYTHING THEN THEY DONT DESERVE THE COVER. MAYBE FOR ONCE RACISM ISNT INVOLVED. YOU HAVE THESE TWO AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSICIANS THAT HAVE MADE MONEY OFF BLACK PEOPLE, BUT YET THEY CANT BE PROUD AND CONFIRM THEY’RE MARRIAGE.
Kym G
4/11/08, 17:47:pm
>>>>>>SO THEY ARE MARRIED THEN…. OK GREAT.. CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT STORY NOW??? OR SHALL WE HANG ONTO THIS ONE FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO??
Celebrity CSI
4/11/08, 17:48:pm
OH they worried about us & what we do….the fact that People magazine mentioned the wedding (which btw is not confirmed although true) tell me something….let alone was one of the main ones standing out in the cold to get ONE picture of who bossip calls lady bey & jigga …says that yes, people of beautiful color matter on the cool. lol They really need to cut this mess out! Now back to the scheduled question at hand: do I think these 2 should sell their wedding photos. Yes & no. that leaves a great big ol maybe. lol
KENNY
4/11/08, 17:50:pm
THERE ARE TOO MANY OFF SUBJECT COMMENTS IN HERE. LETS STICK TO THE POST!
KENNY
4/11/08, 17:54:pm
@CELEB
THEY SHOULD SELL TO ESSENCE MAGAZINE. WHY NOT? ARE THEY THAT GREEDY WHERE THEY NEED MILLIONS?
SILLY RABBITS!!!
4/11/08, 18:01:pm
THE VERY IDEA/ TREND OF SELLING PIC’S OF NEW BORN BABIES AND WEDDINGS TO THE MEDIA IS ABSURD.
#1. IT IS JUST SAD PEOPLE WILL EXPOSE ANYTHING EVERYTHING FOR $$$$$$ AND THEN CLAIM TO WANT PRIVACY
#2. THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY BUY THAT CRAP! YOU CAN GET IT FREE ONLINE PUH-LEEEZZZ, NEVER EVER WORTH BUYING GOSSIP.
#3. THAT PEOPLE REALLY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THESE TWO OR ANY TWO GETTING MARRIED, I MEAN FOR REAL PEOPLE….MOST MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE.
IF I DID BUY SOMETHING IT WOULD BE BRITNEY CUZ SHE IS ALWAYS ENTERTAINING (CRAZY), NOT LATELY THOUGH, BUT WHATEVA. ☼
SILLY RABBITS!!!
4/11/08, 18:05:pm
LOL @ PEOPLE WRITING PARAGRAPHS FOR BEYONCE, THAT SKANK DON’T KNOW OR GIVE TWO DAMNS!
THIS MUST BE A TWEEN SITE….IGNORAMUS’ LEFT & RIGHT! BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUEMENT SOUND DUMB AZZ FUCCCCCCCCCCC
Snow Bunny
4/11/08, 18:06:pm
BEYONCE IS ON THE FRONT OF PEOPLE MAGAZINE TODAY ABOUT HER DAMNED WEDDING! AND SHE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SELLING HER PICTURES IF SHE MADE THE WEDDING SO PRIVATE!
GGG
4/11/08, 18:11:pm
soooo not true…Black people in hollyweird rarely give the tabloids enough ammo to be cover material.. On the B and Camel note i dont think many weeklies wanted to take the risk of making it cover story and they are still denying it. They prolly dont even have a pic of the “bride” so can u sell a mag on a hunch. NO!! we as a county as a nation like the juicy stuff the details and this story is just laking such. I dont think even if they offered B 1,00000000 that she would sell her wedding info, becuz she has always been so private.
always in something
4/11/08, 18:17:pm
girl/boy who ever you are i’m light skin my damn self and people gives dark skin women the same damn respect as they give me i see more light skin girls hate on beyonce more than dark skin do.tell you the truth theres more dark skin women likes her more than light skins. so dont go off trying to get everybody worked up because thats how feel about your self.beyonce maybe light skin but that dont make her any better than me, you , or anybody else see comments like this only prove that people are right when that say that us light skin people think that are ***** dont stink you know that youre wrong for makeing thoes comments……and to all of the dark skin women dont belive a damn thing what that beyonce lover hads to say because every light skin women do not feel the same way that he/she do about yall.cause i know my light skin ***** dont..and i dont care you get mad eather ***** youre wrong.
Timz
4/11/08, 18:18:pm
@ Beyonce # Fan
All shades of black are beautiful.
Rotex
4/11/08, 18:20:pm
I agee with Timz
Mimi
4/11/08, 18:20:pm
I don’t think its racist at all. These publications are about there paper and trust if there was a way to exploit blackies and get top dollar they would do it. Bottom line is Blacks are like 12% of the Nation and Whites are like 70% and they want to sell as many magazines as possible. If the white constituents were buying the mag in droves with Blacks on the cover then to meet and improve their bottom lines there would be a Black on the cover, the inside cover and back and so on. Its about that dollar. Whites wanna see Whites…mostly and Blacks wanna see Blacks mostly and we know Hispanics don’t care for anything thats not Hispanic. It is what it is.
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 18:23:pm
@Beyonce #1 Fan
DO YOU LOOK AS DUMB AS YOU SOUND? DARK SKIN LIGHT SKIN NO SKIN ***** AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ALL BLEED ONCE A MONTH. GO BACK TO BED BECAUSE YOUR OBVIOUSLY DREAMING.
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 18:25:pm
AND AS LONG AS MY P***Y IS THE COLOR ITS SUPPOSE TO BE I COULD GIVE A F**K ABOUT THE COLOR OF MY SKIN. CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just_Me
4/11/08, 18:26:pm
Hey yaw’l!!!
Just_Me
4/11/08, 18:27:pm
@Trusted Source…
You a pretty girl. Nice and brown looking.
ti-ray
4/11/08, 18:29:pm
i’ll say it again…..!
BOSSIP…WASN’T IT YOU…WHO ALWAYS DISSES BEYOUNCE?
BOSSIP…ISN’T IT YOU WHO ALWAYS CALLS JAY-Z..JOE CAMEL?
SO WHY EVEN BRING THIS CRAP UP?
HYPOCRITES!!
THINK
Timz
4/11/08, 18:30:pm
@ Just_Me
Yeah she look nice and brown looking, but all that p#### and f### talk is making her look uncl*****y.
Just_Me
4/11/08, 18:32:pm
p#### and f### talk??? I don’t understand…
jaime
4/11/08, 18:36:pm
Bossip you guys are so stupid- why pose this question? Why should magazines feature Beyonce and J’s marriage or relationship. They have gone out of their way to avoid media attention of their relationship-They do not deserve any media attention because they have worked so hard to avoid it. B’ J” are getting just what they deserve and i hope i don’t have to see their little baby camel on the newstands. stop starting sh..
KENNY
4/11/08, 18:36:pm
@Mimi
I Agree!
Now sometimes you do have to keep an eye out because sneaky racism is the worst (something that makes u think twice). Why was Beyonce the only one on the cover if they are reporting wedding news, usually both parties are on the cover. I can understand not having Jay Z on the cover because to white people he is considered “gangster”, even though he makes millions to middle white america he is a rapper/gangster. These are the same people that think that white people love em.
blackmanhtown
4/11/08, 18:39:pm
Well aren’t they the ones who are down playing their wedding? Are we to kiss their ***** for some pics, or get mad at the white media when they down play it also?
Timz
4/11/08, 18:39:pm
Read her latest comment she posted like 10 minutes ago.
t3pps
4/11/08, 18:40:pm
..or it could be just because there’s NO PICS!
Will
4/11/08, 18:42:pm
We advise Jay-Z and Bey not sell one wedding pic to any of those racist-***** trash trailing mags unless it’s for top dollar – maybe they shouldn’t even sell them at all. Discuss-Bossip
<<Wow so outstanding, now you “advise” Jay-Z who you repeatly call JOE CAMEL and Beyonce who you repeatly disrespect not to sell there pics to racist *****’s. Well if they dont respect them and you dont either dont you think thats the pot calling the kettle black? God bossip you really make me upset for you guys to be so two faced.
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 18:44:pm
@Just_Me – WELCOME TO THE MADNESS.
@Timz – WHO’S TRYING TO BE CL*****Y? I’M MAKING MY POINT. THIS AINT NO *****ING FLAVOR OF LOVE. ITS BOSSIP.
Rotex
4/11/08, 18:46:pm
@ t3pps
..or it could be just because there’s NO PICS!
———————————————————
Thats true.
Timz
4/11/08, 18:49:pm
@ Trusted Source
Im just saying man, it aint attractive at all! Your a pretty girl, so im just concerned. Even if your tryin to p***** a point across, dont mean you should degrade yourself.
MANDDY
4/11/08, 18:53:pm
Beyonce is currently ON THE COVER OF PEOPLE MAGAZINE AND ALSO ON THE COVER OF US WEEKLY. CHECK OUT PEOPLE.COM FOR THE COVER
ms braided beauty the real one
4/11/08, 19:14:pm
no body answered the question … What does it mean when someone answers back with DEAD! what the heck does that mean????????????
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 19:15:pm
@Timz
DEGRADE? DO YOU REALLY THINK COMMENTS ON BOSSIP DEFINE ME? LETS AGREE TO DISAGREE. IM HAPPY YOUR SO CARING. SHARE THAT WITH SOMEONE YOU LOVE.
Token White Guy
4/11/08, 19:16:pm
@ Kenny
“I can understand not having Jay Z on the cover because to white people he is considered “gangster”, even though he makes millions to middle white america he is a rapper/gangster.”
Oh, c’mon man. Don’t think we’re all that dumb. I’m not a huge rap fan and even *my* pale ***** knows that Jay is worth more than $100M and owns half of NYC. He’s about as gangster as Donald Trump these days.
Trusted Source
4/11/08, 19:16:pm
@ms braided beauty the real one
ITS HARD TO EXPLAIN BUT KIND OF LIKE NO MORE NEEDS TO BE SAID. INKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Token White Guy
4/11/08, 19:19:pm
@ ms braided beauty the real one
It’s usually shorthand for “I’m laughing so hard I could die.”
that one girl
4/11/08, 19:27:pm
So now they don’t need 2 be hiding their relationship because the media doesent care as much as they think they do.
lovely and amazing
4/11/08, 19:28:pm
@ Beyonce #1 Fan
Halle Berry is light skinned and IMO way more beautiful than Beyonce and no black man would respect and honor her.
Since you wanna play particulars, lets break some things down. Mind you I am a Beyonce fan but lets be real. Beyonce may be light skinned and she is also “bald headed”, knock kneed, and inarticulate.
Nevertheless she is still beautiful and talented.
My point is not hating, but to make clear that no woman is perfect and no type of woman has a monopoly on beauty.
You have devalued and reduced the sense of worth and identity of light skinned sisters to nothing more than trophies and arm pieces.
And Beyonce who represents herself as being proud of the beauty of blackness within and outside her own family would be repulsed by your views and would for damn sure refund your supoprt for slandering her nephew’s mother and her paternal grandmother and her cousins this way.
You don’t see Beyonce with no light skinned posse and on the arm of a light skinned man. She surrounds herself with and loves all shades of blackness.
So many light skinned women are preyed upon for the wrong reasons and not valued as human beings.
All the light skinned women in our communities stuggling with children out of wedlock on their own just because racist brothers who think like you just want kids by a light skinned woman but still don’t want to father and be a husband.
Stop spreading your racist lies about black women.
We are universally beautiful women, except for those of us who speak ugly racist lies about ourselves and our sisters.
God Bless You Sister and may He heal your warped mind and soul.
Mimi
4/11/08, 19:36:pm
I am watching Entertainment Tonight right now, and the first story they featured was whether Beyonce and Jay Z wore wedding rings at his concert in Houston last night. So I don’t really think the celebrity media is racist, per see.
Just_Me
4/11/08, 19:38:pm
Who cares if someone (boy or girl) is light or dark? If they look good and got body…they look good and got body…
always in something
4/11/08, 19:42:pm
first of all u must go to those wack ***** clubs.because the clubs i go to everyone love beyonce…it dont matter the color..u may say that people hate on beyonce but you r hateing on darkskin people.look ***** im lightskin myself n i got high self-esteem!!!!!!!and for u to sit there and run your mouth about the babies it show how less of a woman u r.a baby is a blessing from god.it seem to me u want beyonce.she is a grown ***** woman get off her ***** and get a life.its woman like u that want everyone else to look bad cus your ***** feel low bout yourself.and incase u didnt notice most guys go for females they think r weak..and a club is not one of the places to be giving a man propts….SO STOP CALLING DARKSKIN PEOPLE UGLY….AND DUMP SOME OF DAT HATARADE OUT YOUR SYSTEM.BECAUSE U R DA HATER N DA CLUBS.YOURE ONE OF THEM *****ES THAT GO OUT N PUBLIC TO HATE N HATE WHEN NO ONE LOOK AT U.GET A BACKBONE N STOP USEING BEYONCE’S!!!!I LOVE HER MUSIC AND HAPPY THAT SHE’S MARRIED BUT U NEED TO GROW UP N STOP ACTING GHETTO.GUYS DONT LIKE WOMAN WHO HATE ON WOMAN.YOURE ONLY MAKEING GUYS LOVE DARKSKIN .SOOOOOOOOO U R THE HATER,AND TO CHILDISH…BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A BEYONCE FAN YOU’LL KNOW BEYONCE DONT HATE ON GIRLS OF NO COLOR.ALL UP N HER RELATIONSHIP AND MONEY…DONT CUT YOUR RISK OVER WHAT PEOPLE SAY BOUT BEYONCE SHE KNOW SHE HAVE HATAZ..AND ALOT OF HER HATAZ R FANS.““IN WORDS OF A LIGHTSKIN GIRL“`
KENNY
4/11/08, 19:49:pm
@TOKEN
I not saying anyone is dumb, just that the housewives in middle white america who purchase the mags may look at him a different way. Just because you make that much dont mean white people respect you! People know he use to sell drugs and do dirty things, you cant compare J to Donald because Donald have game on lock J wishes he were him.
How many white women are scared to p***** a black man on the street, no matter how much money he has? Alot! so dont think just because he is worth $100mil and own half of NY that white people have forgotten that he is black and ex drug dealer. TO most whites the only thing J has going for him is Beyonce.
Michelle
4/11/08, 20:14:pm
Black people have to stop the desire for white/other people to validate us. We don’t need white validation or validation from any other group of people for that matter. The m***** media reports on what they believe is important to them. Just because its not important to them doesn’t make it any less important; it just means they are not interested and that’s okay. Our culture and beauty is revered all over the world. When are we going to learn to revere ourselves and for that to be enough.
Just Sit and Be Pretty
4/11/08, 20:29:pm
No one put Brad and Angelina on the cover a few weeks ago when it was rumored they got married in New Orleans. Really Bossip is just trying to stir things up. Anywhoo the real JSABP has left for the weekend. TGIF
1TruDiva w/ The PlatinumVocals!!!
4/11/08, 20:40:pm
Now I beginning to understand why Oprah puts ONLY HERSELF on the cover of her magazine each month!!
1TruDiva w/ The PlatinumVocals!!!
4/11/08, 20:41:pm
*I’m
1TruDiva w/ The PlatinumVocals!!!
4/11/08, 20:43:pm
If they do decide to sell the pictures, Jet won’t be the first ’cause they can’t afford them. Hell, they’re still trying to pay Garcelle for those pics of her and her little…
kids in the…cute outfits!
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1TruDiva w/ The PlatinumVocals!!!
4/11/08, 20:46:pm
Another thought–
I like the fact that people have to guess the status of Bey-Jay’s relationship/marriage. Although people feel like they should know every aspect of a star’s life–it gives them a sense of control in their personal lives.
Prettycitygirl
4/11/08, 20:57:pm
I agree, they didn’t mention much on the entertainment shows either.
Gossip Girl
4/11/08, 20:59:pm
What has Beyonce said or done on behalf of the Black Community? Nothing at all. She and her family promote her for “herself” and that is sad. It also is the reason there is very little love or genuine interest in what she does. Jayz on the other hand has sponsored, provided guidance, and mentored countless young Black artist. Bottom line is they are not a power couple, so no mag covers for their nupitals. What they are is a man that got the girl of his dreams (no crime there) and she married the bank!
Gossip Girl
4/11/08, 21:04:pm
Off subject: Anyone know why Halle is hiding baby Nahla? Me thinks the baby didnt come out as cute as Halle hoped. Im sure Ms Berry would splash all over the networks the picture of a “likeness of herself, whitened moreso by Aubry” if that were the case. I betcha a dollar the baby is a darkcomplexioned cutie pie. Its a pity Halle doesnt think dark is cute.
Token White Guy
4/11/08, 21:18:pm
@ Kenny
> I not saying anyone is dumb, just that the housewives in middle white america who purchase the mags may look at him a different way.
Well, yeah. If we’re talking about older white folks then you’re probably right. Hopefully, they’re the last generation of people who think like that. Now that the generation of kids who grew up on or around hip-hop is raising families, I think that a lot of the old-style racism is going to die out.
> Just because you make that much dont mean white people respect you! People know he use to sell drugs and do dirty things, you cant compare J to Donald because Donald have game on lock J wishes he were him.
Any white person with a damned bit of sense respects J. The man went from nothing to almost everything. Everybody I know thinks Trump is just a rich *****hole, so J might be better off than he thinks.
> TO most whites the only thing J has going for him is Beyonce.
Well, let’s hope that that “most” is getting smaller and smaller every day. With any luck we’re going to have a black president, so the old days are getting further and further in the past.
Candy Barr
4/11/08, 21:35:pm
That’s ridiculous . . . The two said nothing about what was going to happen, so how in the hell was the media supposed to have access. All week long there have been stories that the two didn’t even marry. Who cares? If they want us to see photos, they will release them. Why should these people be making millions off of funky ***** like that, anyway. I don’t want to see either of them any other day of the week, so why would I care about their wedding photos.
brown sugar
4/11/08, 21:45:pm
WHY THE ***** ARE WE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM BEING ON THE COVER OF A TABLOID MAGAZINE? DON’T THESE CELBS COMPLAIN HOW THEY WANT EVERYONE OUT OF THEIR BUSINESS? BEYONCE AND JAY DONT CARE IF THEY DID WE WOULD HAVE SEEN THESE PICS ALREADY. SOME CELEBS SELL THEIR PICS TO THE HIGHEST BID, SO IF BEYONCE AND JAY-Z DON’T “SELL” MAGAZINES, THEY PROBABLY GOT OFFERED LESS MONEY AND DECIDED TO KEEP THE PICS. I NOTICED THAT BEYONCE IS ON THE COVER OF US WEEKLY AND PEOPLE AND DOESN’T IT SAY “BEYONCE’S SECRET WEDDING” OR SOMETHING. THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT JAY. HE’S NOT AS MAINSTREAM AS HER.
as seen on t.v.
4/11/08, 21:49:pm
the only black person white mags are checking for is halle when she finally decides to show her kid…other than that they could care less about black folks and particularly this black couple…we don’t buy mags, at least not white mags…and they haven’t even officially stated they were married anyway…so i guess the mags are like if they won’t confirm…why would we pay them millions for pics…
SEXYY
4/11/08, 22:01:pm
Sorry B. But maybe your just gettin old.
Lisalisa
4/11/08, 22:32:pm
Black ppl are sooo quick to call ANYTHING and everything racism.
Beyonce and Jay-z sold their souls to whitey a looong time ago.
Lisalisa
4/11/08, 22:37:pm
@ Gossip Girl -
Why are you jumping to the CONCLUSION that Halle hasnt shown the baby yet, because the baby is dark skinned? Sounds like YOU have a problem with dark skin, cause I dont get your *****umption and logic (or should I say lack of)
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 22:40:pm
Beyonce #1 Fan
Damn I hate darkskin *****es, they all up in this blog with their ugly ***** photo’s hating. You see the lightskin *****es aint hating. Lightskin women are SECURE and we are not filled with hate. Like ya’ll darkskin dirty *****es. All darkskin *****es look dirty. Ya’ll hating on beyonce cause she lightskin. Ya’ll know it. Beyonce look better than all her hata’s. Light skin girls aint intemidated by bey,,we buy her ***** and bump in the club cause we lightskin and get attention just likeher. But darksin *****es feel played in the club, thats why they frown when beyonce comes on, cause they know their man dreaming about some light skin wet *****. Dark skin babies are the back burner baby mama’s while us lightskin get attention and ride in the front seat. Ya’ll hate on bey, and want her to got out of style because you JEALOUS. Her music ROCKS, jayz is in love with her, why would he pick any other girl over beyonce, she’s the richest lightskin girl in the game. I be glad when beyonce wedding pics surf the net to shut you hating ***** *****es up. There should have never been a such thing as a darkskin hoodrat bum. All dark skin girls get played cause men don’t like darkskin women, thats why ya’ll want to see beyonce get played.
beyonce#1fan we are not the same person so people will know even tho i said some mean things just like her two weeks ago about dark skin black women becuase yall just really dont get it sometimes but…….i seen my self in her yo when i was reading that really looked ugly. dark skin light skin ***** gots to stop for real.
black women we cant even come together for ***** and thats sad. other people say black women are hatein on none black women thats a lie. i tell yall who black women hate on.
black women hate on other black women they dont give a damn about none black women. black women try to out do other black women becuase we all pretty just to put it out there. we got to work together not apart.
and dark skin women from a light skin woman i think dark skin black women are pretty as well ***** what people say. we all the same thats why the name black women all races fear and hate us why? eve was a black african woman who started all races. once all black women let go of that weave and wear they real hair let it grow out beauty is inside and out black women you all have the power to win use it.
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 22:49:pm
black women lets stop fighting. thats the first step thing i want to see is us comeing together. black women are being put through a test right now in life out of all women. and im going to tell you all one thing im not going to get weak over nothing. if i have to be the one to stand up some how in the damn media to take up for all black women i will do it. there are white people off line who know they came from a black african woman eve. this is why black women get treated like ***** now days. yes we have black men turning on us for the white people to make us look like *****. but i tell you one thing black women let it go. you have god. that is one man you need to lean on. thats all we had and have is god. this sick world will burn in hell we cant worry about whats going on in this world any more but worry about us and worry about geting and makeing it to upstairs thats what matters. its okay black women that we are outkast becuase we wont do things thats just not right. put it all in gods hands. black women listen to me please. we have no choose.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 22:49:pm
@Byoncefan
actually, i am light skinned, and i dont like beyonce either. sorry.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 22:51:pm
@Beyoncefan
You do have a point about blackwomen on a whole, sticking together, but face it… not everyone is gonna like Beyonce.
Midnite shift
4/11/08, 22:54:pm
Beyonce is old news now, thats why she aint sellin covers no more, but she’s still sexy to me. lol. She’s my idol.
Opinion Distributor
4/11/08, 22:58:pm
That’s a billion dollar couple right there. No one cares what People or the NY Times has to say about them. I know I don’t!
That’s what Bossip is for
… by my people for my people
jjj
4/11/08, 23:03:pm
Beyonce’s face looks tough in that pic, her teeth looks like she was chewing on some yellow crayons… Jay-Z just looks like a camel.
* shrugs
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:05:pm
jjj
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
C. K
4/11/08, 23:09:pm
Beyonce and jay z are like, creep and the beast. Beyonce creeepy and jay z is the best. I HATE BLACK PEOPLE AND SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE. THATS WHY THEY DONT SELL COVERS.. THEY SELL GUNS.
mz. sumthn
4/11/08, 23:10:pm
damn, when will this racist bull***** stop, they know be n jay is the most anti*****ted wedding, n be bein the diva that she is, she aint gon take dat bull*****.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:11:pm
@Ck
That was so racist and pointless.
C. K
4/11/08, 23:12:pm
@Sexyy
Its not racist, its true.
NuAgenda
4/11/08, 23:13:pm
Beyonce’s grill is *****ed up in that picture. Wow She got them itsy bitsy baby teeth like Jermaine Dupri.
C. K
4/11/08, 23:15:pm
ALL BLACK PEOPLE DO IS EMBAR***** AND KILL THEMSELVES, AND YET THEY THINK THEY are SMART ENOUGH TO RUN THE COUNTRY. Stupid slaves.
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 23:19:pm
SEXYY
i did not ask you to like beyonce. for once this is not about beyonce.
this is about black women as a whole to come together. i want us to stop being so damn hush to each other. this is my love for black women. im talking about us all.
Rachel
4/11/08, 23:19:pm
@CK
***** OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU IGNORANT SON OF A *****!!
YOUR A BIG ***** FOR SAYIN ***** LIKE THAT . I BET YOU WERE A SLAVE ONCE. TRAILOR PARK *****. PROBABLY GOT *****ED BY YOUR DAD ON A REGULAR BASIS HUH? ***** YOU!!!!!!!!
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:21:pm
@beyoncefan
Well i think everyone needs to recognize that hating on eachother wont help, and black women need to start respecting their selves more. I agree with you.
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 23:24:pm
black people got it bad as a whole talking about one another. i know becuase i done it alots of times. and when i just sit back and read it really makes us seem like a disgrace to our black race. we disrespecting the blacks from back then who pay the way for us to live better now. and its like how dare us act so childish and silly. we all know better. yes i can sit up here and blame whites all day long becuase they just evil. but look at us blacks look at us what do we do to each other every day?????? break each other down we cant even get our selfs together. shakes my head it hurts me when i think about the old black people like MLK all he fight for and the blacks today just act like this.
C. K
4/11/08, 23:26:pm
@Rachel
SHUT UP W*****. I BET YOUR ONE OF THOSE ***** SUCKING VIDEO W*****S THAT SHAKE THEIR BLACK STINKY *****ES IN FRONT OF CAMERA FOR MONEY! WELL SUCK MY BIG WHITE ***** *****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 23:28:pm
i think all blacks do know what we do is wrong but the fact is alot of blacks dont want to change. there are alots of black women who i know that do respect them selfs and there are some who just dont. we gotta respect each other. first you have to respect your self yeah u right and love your self and then you respect others. you treat people the way you want to be treated. i just want blacks to think about that.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:29:pm
@Beyoncefan
Your right, black people on a whole need to stop tearing eachother down and start building eachother up. But it wont happen over night, and at the rate we’re going, it will never happen at all.
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 23:31:pm
all we can do is just pray about it. thats all i can just do. and thank you for your thoughts and understanding.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:33:pm
@Beyoncefan
YOUR DEEP . I FEEL WHERE YOUR COMIN FROM WITH THIS. BUT IF WE CANT RESPECT OURSELVES, THEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL BE READY TO RUN AMERICA? I’M JUST WAITIN TO SEE.
SEXYY
4/11/08, 23:34:pm
@BEYONCE FAN
YOUR WELCOME
Mizz Pimpin
4/11/08, 23:35:pm
Bey and Jay just shake the haters off and do you
C. K
4/11/08, 23:36:pm
@RaCHEL
MOUTH FULL ?
beyoncefan
4/11/08, 23:38:pm
thank you! i feel that its never to late for blacks to grow in a place in they lifes they never growed before starts with them selfs as a person. i dont have to be a star like beyonce just to be notice as a good black woman. i am a good black woman just dont have her rich money. but thats okay. i have a rich heart. lol
J
4/11/08, 23:40:pm
@ Donovan…Greatest comment I ever read!!! Makes a a whole lotta sense…p’se continue to educate these folks for me!!!
Midnite shift
4/11/08, 23:41:pm
C. K ………. Are you done?
LUCKILY FOR OBAMA
4/12/08, 00:29:am
I think they would have gotten more of a buzz if they actually admitted or acknowledged that they had actually gotten married. I mean, even Star Jones got more press and Ms. Beyonce is light enough to sell magazine covers. I don’t think it’s that deep. (Plus they are supposed to be having another ceremony in France soon, maybe those are the main pics)
always in something
4/12/08, 00:49:am
c.k what ever your funking name is you kkk loveing ***** go put a white sheet over your head and burn a cross you can suck my ***** for makeing a comment about blacks like that i bat your not even white and if you are ***** u dont get mad because black people is more powerful than whites.***** i’ll make your wife,mother,father,kids.suck my ***** before i let you go off disrespecting a black person atleast you dont hear black people trying to kill their self…..by the way white people are the most unhappy trashy ***** people in the world because they aways have a problem with somebody or something so go ***** a sheep *****. you S.T.D carrying *****er and the only reason why you hate blacks becaues you wonna be black….
Deelishisss
4/12/08, 03:33:am
What about People magazine this week? Week of April 21..Bey is on the front. Maybe a lil less Jim Crow talk.
Terry
4/12/08, 04:06:am
1st: Bossip is just stirring up the wasp nest just get people to post and view all the tired advertisement that supports them.
2nd: Who gives a *****!
Really!
And to even give this bottom of the barrel store anymore legs would be a waste of time.
Stop trying to be like WHITE.
SAxlerod
4/12/08, 05:05:am
Finally, someone the ***** or lady business to tell the truth! I’ve been saying the same thing for years. The publications will give a African American a front spread if he or she kills 10 Hollyweird scarlets or some other washed up waste of time. And then they won’t call you African American. At that point, you’re “black”. Just short of really wanting to say the N-word. And you know when these *****s are at home, they aren’t calling you “African American”. This is why racism will never ever die. It can’t because what’s whitey going to do? There will never ever be equal ground. I’m still waiting for my gotdamn 40 acres and a mule. And I want it in the Hamptons! It is a serious concern because some of our young black kids who are impressionable don’t have black people as heros but look up to Hollyweird’s Horrible. Then they try drugs, DUIs thinking they will get the same “p*****” as these wackos do. When they find out the true reality, we’ve lost another one. This world will always be racist and thankfully we’re not being lynched but our culture is being raped and hung in other ways. Thank you for recognizing and for the topic.
Jeannette
4/12/08, 07:37:am
First things first. I want to say Bey, you are the best. I wonder why Jay-Z always look like he wasn’t interested in taking pictures. I see why now. Jay-Z is very intelligent. Because he knew one day, it would lead to this. White people haven’t change in 400 years. Do you think they will ever change. But at the end of the day you still *****s to them. The only reason Oprah get what she gets is because she is worth Billions. Beyonce & Jay-Z keep hiding your face and go about your business as you suppose too.
Hurry have some little Jay-Z’s and beyonce thats what I want to see. God please with you all.
yeah i said it
4/12/08, 08:17:am
bossip yall are no better than those people. why yall gotta call britney spears stank and call jennifer aniston that? they have done nothing to yall. when you post things about britney ya ll don’t even acknowledge her as a person you state her as “white people’s news” let that be a white person to say in “black people’s news” and yall would be quick to call them racist. stop calling others racists when yall one yall damn selves. and i don’t understand this whole celeb rave yall need to get the hell out their business. if lames like yall wasn’t in their personal business they wouldn’t be making so much off a damn typical american wedding photo. the only difference between the stars and regular people is that they have money and anyone can get money. bey is not super top notch where her ***** should be selling. the girl does her thing but ain’t *****ody worried bout her but yall bossip yall stay on her ***** and yall stay on jay’s dyck.
PIMP DADDY
4/12/08, 08:43:am
BEY LOOKS LIKE SHE JUST GOT BANGED WELL.
Lourdes
4/12/08, 09:10:am
Bossip, what are ya’ll talking about? I was at the grocery store last night and when I through the check out line I saw your girl Bey on the cover of US Weekly and People. Aren’t those the top two gossip magazines???
hels
4/12/08, 09:34:am
This is really low BOSSIP!!! Maybe Bey and Jay’s nuptials would be front page news IF THEY ACTUALLY ADMITTED TO THEM!!!!!!! Hello!!! The bride and groom have yet to confirm these nuptials so why should it be front page news???
lovely and amazing
4/12/08, 10:50:am
Yes the media can be racist.
But in all fairness Beyonce and Jay-Z didn’t announce or admit they had a wedding. There could be lawsuits involved if the tabloids publicized a wedding and possibly they are not married.
I do think two people who are 100% fan-made should share an announcement and photo with their fans. The curiosity and intrigue is uneccesary and kind of cruel if you think about it especially knowing how their fans care.
So, guess its no big deal the weeklies didn’t put them on the cover.
Kimmie in Cleveland
4/12/08, 11:39:am
Jay-Z and Beyonce have downplayed their entire relationship. Pics of them together are scarce compared to other celeb couples, because they wanted it that way.
I think that these two people have made it obvious, that they don’t want to be followed and hounded constantly, and have their privacy invaded. It destroys relationships and marriages all over Hollywood, and they have chosen to protect their relationship from the media for that very reason.
Beyonce’ and Jay were dating for years on the down-low, before they ever confirmed being a couple in public. I am not surprised that they had a small wedding, and did not make pics available to the public.
Remember Janet and her secret marriage to Rene’, for how many years??? The only reason that it lasted as long as it did, is because she kept it a secret.
I don’t think it is racist. Beyonce and Jay could have gotten married and shut all of New York down, had a huge gala at the Waldorf or any other 5 Star Hotel, had outrageous amounts of money spent on flowers, and a huge dress, with a long list of celebrities in their wedding party, and had every pap in town taking pics. Magazines would have gladly bought photos, and paid whatever the market would bear for them.
They chose not to plan it that way. It was their choice. What is so racist about that???
Maybe they just want a marriage that will last.
Fiyah
4/12/08, 13:02:pm
Gee i wonder what they should have put on the cover – a big ole question mark, a truck that might have been transporting the lovely bride, or maybe a couple of wedding guests saying wedding? what wedding? i dont know anything about a wedding o.0
Yes.We.Can.America.2008!
4/12/08, 14:36:pm
Why do some of you hate Beyonce so much? What has she done to you personally to make you hate her?
Why do some of you love Beyonce so much? What has she done to you personally to make you love her?
I wonder who will answer.
Boobie Boy
4/12/08, 14:56:pm
Anyway! Is that Jay-Bey Thang so Important?! Married or not, I really don’t understand what’s the matter. Have you got some money to get off of it? Beyonce looks a FAKE person to me and she isn’t that Beautiful or that much sexy. She’s just cute, that’s all! You gotta get down to the West Indies where the Pure Sexy gyalz are. No Surgery, no Fake *****es & *****ies. Y’all gonna see sum Natural Perfection of Women. If There’re Caribeans F’in around this site, they know what i’m talkin bout.
Angie
4/12/08, 15:00:pm
I agree that they downplay big time black celebs for lesser white celebs, but it’s not as bad as its made to seem.
First, the mags did all they could with what they had. This was a very secretive meeting. If they had more material to work with, I’ll bet it would have made more covers.
Second, the wedding was all over the mainstream gossip blogs as well as black blogs and let’s face it, who else matters? No one is reading those mags anymore anyway. It’s “The Internets” (as our president calls it) that count.
gemstone83
4/12/08, 15:17:pm
This going to sound cliche, que all that matters is that they are happy. Now why should they worry about whether or not magazines that are dominated by white interest put them on the cover….We as a people need to realize that that we don’t need them, we need each other…plenty of Black magazines will put them on the cover….and supporting a Black magazine by sending it to them would be ideal anyway…but it’s up to them. They are a very private couple and probably have no intent on selling them at all.
Sheila
4/12/08, 15:19:pm
I don’t know why yall trying to make something out of nothing. Did it really have to be titled “Jim Crow…..”Black people’s photo’s don’t sell much because black people like being so private… ie., Jay-Z and Beyonce. White people like being in the spot light, as much as they try to deny it…they know it helps in the longevity of their careers. For this simple reason they get into fights with each other, date the popular celeb or lose a ridiculous amount of weight…its called creating a controversy. Who would pay for pictures that can’t fabricate stories. Think about that before you start another ones of these stupid discussions. Beyonce and Jay-Z don’t like their business out in the public and if you ask me they shouldn’t be featured at all in no one’s magazines.
ignant
4/12/08, 16:30:pm
Bey is on the cover of both ‘US Weekly’ and ‘People’. Just peeped them both in Wal-Mart. That’s as big as it gets if you ask me…
C.C.
4/12/08, 16:31:pm
@Lovely and Amazing
You are telling the complete truth.
ThatsBull00
4/12/08, 16:31:pm
Many celebs hide their reletionships and have secret personal lives and still end up on the cover
Marquis de Sade
4/12/08, 17:30:pm
These magazines don’t give much love to us homosexual brothas but you don’t hear us complaining. Black people always find something to complain about. Especially these sistas. You’re the reason I’m gay.
hellno
4/12/08, 17:49:pm
Maybe it’s because Jay and B celebrated their engagement, but have yet to get married. When the wedding takes place, they will receive more mainstream media attention. Just because they didn’t tell Bossip it wasn’t wedding doesn’t mean they didn’t hook themselves up with a mainstream outlet to report the actual event with some expensive exclusive BS thing.
Look at what Halle’s doing, shopping the baby pictures to the highest bidder, can’t blame white media for that. That’s Halle’ doing, greed.
All in fun
4/12/08, 18:19:pm
I doubt we will hear anything about them crying about this. They seem to be comfortable with who they are and their relationship. They could afford to get married any where and how they want and they choose a low key intimate affair. Please leave them.
D-Nast
4/12/08, 20:21:pm
maybe they should sell the pics to bossip.
lucky
4/12/08, 20:49:pm
They admittied they were dating like someone said what you want a pic of a damm white truck? they always downplayed everything about themselves so what’s the big problem
blacklady
4/13/08, 00:18:am
@ Marquis de Sade
get that ***** right ***** your gay becuase you allways was and wanted to be gay. and white women are the ones who turn you dumb ***** black men. its a study about that. yall all turning over ugly *****es who look *****ed up. ***** i bet if we was all face to face no one would talk ***** to my pretty ***** face i would beat your ***** down.
lovely and amazing
4/13/08, 03:19:am
Black folks have too much sense to be paparazzi. Jumping in front of cars and hanging out of planes for a picture just doesn’t seem to be our thing.
There isn’t a black tabloid magazine yet or a market for black paparazzi yet.
So black celebs get press but not tabloid status. Only cross over stars (ie. Halle) get serious paparazzi action and market value.
BTW- “Inside Beyonce’s Wedding” is on the cover of US weekly. Truth be told, she looks very white on the cover. Remember, narrow minded society and media still *****ociate marriage with white people.
Vicki
4/13/08, 04:25:am
I find the sexy girl on a cle brity and mi llionaire dat ing site called ‘RichMatchMaking. c om’. She has a sexy *****, a sweet smile and a perfect bodytype
Ms MAC
4/13/08, 07:54:am
No Marquis the reason you are gay is because you like to have another man’s d*ck up your a$$ so please don’t start blaming women for your gayness that’s all you sweetie!
I am surprised the bossip wrote this article as well..it seems like this is something that would come from the fakeout! I think the white mainstream media did all the reporting they can on something that has not been confirmed by either party or either’s publicist. So why keep reporting and wasting time and money on something you don’t even know is true. That’s just bad business. So I don’t think it has anything to do with racism because even without knowing Beyonce is still on magazine covers this week but there is nothing much to report. Until they have solid facts I don’t want to read the story anyway.
Side note: I don’t care how famous I ever get I would never agree to keeping the fact that I got married on the low. That’s something I want the whole world to know all this keeping marriage on the low Janet type behavior is rather bizarre to me. And then to be seen out without a ring..yeah right either they are not married or Beyonce is a little slower than usual because there is no time I would take my ring off other than to lotion my hands.
Ms MAC
4/13/08, 08:03:am
@Beyonce’s #1 Fan
Awww you’re excited about being a baby mama and riding in the front seat of your baby daddy’s car..you are truly an idiot! Reality check sweetie..the fact that you are a baby’s mom and your man didn’t want to make you his wife before he knocked you up should be your first concern..not the color of anyone’s skin. You sound GED educated so that’s all the time that I am going to spend responding to your ignorance.
Sanj
4/13/08, 14:58:pm
Woah!!! Jen Aniston aint do NOTHIN to ya’ll! leave her out of it! and the rest of ya’ll, dont FRONT like ya’ll dont watch friends! lol
TheDen
4/13/08, 15:11:pm
I think it’s been said in this thread, but I had to stop in & agree with 1 thing. It’s asinine to blame the media for being racist, over something like this!?!? It’s the most retarded mentality a person could have in this case. It’s that same “We Shall Overcome”, “Wade in the Water”, “Da White Man Be Holdin the Po Black Man Down” mentality. Get over it, man, this doesn’t have anything to do with that situation!
Are we forgetting that this is Jay-Z (my homie) & Beyonce’s (my homegirl’s) fault? Yes, their fault! THEY’RE the ones who chose to keep the wedding/marriage a secret. THEY’RE the ones refusing to confirm that they’re even married. THEY’RE the ones choosing not to wear any rings in public. But yet, it’s mainstream media’s responsibility to put it on the main cover of the magazines, or else it’s racist!!??? Please, drop that “Roots” mentality, please.
If the 2 parties involved are refusing to be public about something like this, then stop blaming print media for not making it the focus. That’s not racism, that’s just common frickin’ sense!
You’re going to call print media racist, yet, didn’t a Latina get front-cover coverage for her wedding to a minority basketball player. Didn’t another Latina get repeated front-page coverage over her relationships, finally getting married again to another Latin minority singer, her repeated tries to get pregnant, and her getting pregnant finally??? The answer is yes. All those things were on the cover of US Weekly, People, and every other mainstream gossip mag on the planet. And haven’t we seen black-***** Oprah on front covers like those many times along the way? The answer is “yes” again. And haven’t we seen BEYONCE HERSELF on those same covers many times throughout her career???? Yes again. And now, we’ve got Rihanna on those covers all the time too, these days, ALONG WITH those white celebs.
Yet, AFTER ALL THAT, some of us still have the ***** to say it’s racist because Beyonce & Jay’s wedding wasn’t the front cover??? I love the selective memory that comes with that “We Shall Overcome” mentality. Bottom line is, if you go out of your way to keep something secret in this case, then go out publicly denying anything ever happened, don’t be shocked if it’s not going to quite make top story on the front cover. There’s no color in that. Get over it. Thanks, just my opinion.
–Den
MERCEDEZ
4/13/08, 18:23:pm
i guess they should let bossip or mediatakeout have them? you guys have made racist comments about both of them. calling jay-z “camel” and making comments about beyonce’s private parts and hair… who’s the racist???
mrsjay
4/13/08, 21:49:pm
you know what, the wedding was downplayed because there was no wedding.
Let it be known, I told you here first!!!
Malaika
4/13/08, 22:24:pm
Of all the things to be calling racist…..
WHO THE F#($* CARES ABOUT CELEB GOSSIP MAGAZINES?????
COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are Jay Z and Beyonce really so important to the black community? God, I wish I was born in the 40s. Then I would be alive in the 60s when REAL progress was taking place. And the celebrities black people looked up to were Malcolm, Martin, Patrice, Kwame, Julius Nyerere, Che, Angela Davis..
and now our heros are people who cater to white audiences, singing about being “bootylicious” and hustling….
Lord help us.
bossip is crap
4/14/08, 00:20:am
let me school ya’ll about the real media. This story is good but without an offical announcement, there nothing to write about but hear -say. No magazine wants to write about what 50 others have written. ya’ll are so racist, ya’ll make me sick. Your page bring black folks down
Rock Steady
4/14/08, 01:15:am
WTF is a “Witch Hagar”? LOL!! Don’t know what it means but sounds funny as hell. Thank you Bossip for the laugh. SMH.
Moving on…
About “Camel” and “Weaves-R-Us”, will black people shut the hell up about the media being racist about not covering their wedding. Have we all forgotten that this event was some sort of top secret event that both Beyonce and Jay-Z wanted to keep private. There is a reason why there are no wedding photos floating around. We haven’t even seen the wedding rings yet. Magazine’s can’t publish photos that they don’t have.
There is nothing inheritantly racist about the lack of coverage. And to be quite honest, I don’t think that the world would care even if there were pictures. As people have mentioned, these two, although I totally respect the way they’ve handled their relationship in the public eye, are boring.
Give me a break and stop playing the race/victim card and leave the outcries of racism for real blacks who are suffering sad and real situations of racism and discrimination. Shame…
Jk
4/14/08, 02:53:am
Is it racist media or is it racist consumers that the media is selling to? Why would a business market something that sells less than something else…I think the consumers the ones who set the trends. Effed up as it may be reality is just that…reality.
joe
4/14/08, 05:57:am
they looks so happy. may this day be the beginning of a long happy and prosperous life for you both. I believe your fans on ‘m i l l i o n a i r e c h a t s.c o m will always love you. you are the model couple of that site
# 1
4/14/08, 07:29:am
Heck, the don’t want anyone to know. So y buy a magazine. They don’t have any pictures out of them anyway.
Ro Ro
4/14/08, 11:27:am
I am just not so sure what the relevance of this particular insert is about. I mean I can understand the media not paying blacks equally for their personal photos and stories…HELLO THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON RACISM AND IT WILL ALWAYS BE PRESENT AND RELEVANT.
However…I though Beyonce and Jay Z did not want to share their news with the world. So what do they care if their stories don’t make 1st page or whatever. I mean come on. Are you that hard up for cash and attention that you need to be payed more money than is nec*****ary or plausible??
Paleeaa*****seeee.
Stomp Like an Elephant...
4/14/08, 15:29:pm
Beyonce and her wedding story was on the cover of people magazine as well…
Miss. Jay
4/15/08, 15:02:pm
IT WAS AN ENGAGEMENT PARTY!!!