Monday, September 21st, 2009
Jay-Z Explains How the Roc Symbol Was Invented and Performs ‘Roc Boys’ Across the Pond
Posted by Bossip Staff
Jay-Z is overseas and doing some heavy promoting. He was at BBC Live 1 and performed “Roc Boys,” he also explains how they came up with the Roc symbol.
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GOLD!
honestly, does anyone really give a *****?
here you people go about him worshiping the devil. You guys are stupid, “I’m far from God but i work God dam hard” -Jay-z
hmmm, after watching the illuminati weirdo do*****entary thought the rock symbol was invented to represent.
3…..2…..1
Here they come.
I can’t see this at work. What did he say started the whole roc thing…? Was it he saw some Deltas and stole it..Cause ***** that’s where it came from first i thought!
who cares? if he wants to have a symbol so what
I love it! Hova goes damn hard!!
he’s lying big time about that roc *****
His talent is undeniable, and he’s a funny dude, evidently. I like him and hope he continues to do well. I ain’t mad.
I love Europeans.
@Alrighty Then… (why do all of the “men” on Bossip argue w/ females?)
The answer to your question is because those ones that argue are not really men. Because what grown ***** person has time for that nonsense…
I love how he speaks perfect English here.
he explained it to the little peeeples didnt he. Triangle mess is nothing but that devil worshipping cult symbol don’t need no damn hand signal for a company what has the world come to when these nuts think they can say anything. Good thing CBS and Starbucks are not his company or he’d have to really come up with a heck of an explaination then wouldnt he? Sad, sad, sad his wife dont even work for him so what’s she walking around peeking out her hands for? oh, lets see all the single ladies who are independant can afford diamonds so that is how she is letting the world know she can afford her own diamonds right. GTFOH
HE REMINDS ME OF RAINMAN.
It’s funny how Jay-Z is answering to all the things said on Bossip. First you have all the Mason Docs aring on TV. Then John asked how he got his rap name(HOV) and his response was his mamma gave it to him. Now he has prompted the interviewer to ask about the ROC symbol and he gave a corney excuse. I like the way he’s trying to cover his tracks. He does need to clear that ***** up. Even though his actions and symbols tell another story he know what the word is on the street/bloggs. He has put a stop to a lot of blogging most bloggers have been banned off the rest of the sites so bossip bloggers beware anyway I don’t care anymore I stop dicussing that ***** I want to continue to blogg I ain’t trying to get my server blocked and I know who I beleive in so everyone has a right to their own relegion but I also think if you worship the devil the consumer has the right to know.
THE GREATEST THAT EVER DONE THATS ALIVE…HATERS START HERE______________________
I just LOVE how people get upset because others aren’t blinded by these so called celebrities fame and money. Not to mention these people wouldn’t give two cents about you or me if they p*****ed us on the street. He knows who his spiritual father is, and it sure isn’t the Lord. And that’s ok too because folks are entitled to believe in what and WHO they want. Calling people nuts or conspiracy theorist just because they know what’s good doesn’t change the truth. Just saying…
preach now… its funny how people always punish other for there choice of who to worship or not for that matter. GET OFF HIS ***** Let Jay z be Jay z…. You god has a path for him that you or I cannot change!
Oh and I do believe in the Lord, so I he finds him because time is running out. At the same time, I’m not the Lord so it isn’t my right to judge. I pray he finds the truth but from the looks of it, he is WAY to deep in it. So sad people sell out not knowing the horrors that lie ahead.
Jay try to play people like they are so dumb. OK I could beleive him and friends came up with the symbol but it’s all the other stuff that goes along with it. The Lucifer song with the 66.. in the backbround Lookie baby (luci baby lu-ki) the bopohmet devil in the rihanna video, Beyonce wearing the bopohmet devil, all the Mason threats it’s just too many facts that suupport his relegion of choice. Don’t try to clear that ***** up now yo ***** is on blast
It doesn’t look very much like a diamond when I see it… Looks like a triangle.
Jay should do another Unplugged. that sounds hotttt!!
The Band was dope-especially the guitar player.You can drink wine to that version of Roc Boys.
Jay-Z can try to turn his back on Satan if he want too once you take that oath it’s over with. Satan will get in that ***** if HOV has a change of heart. I would be cocerned for his safety if he tried to turn his life around. I am sure God will accept him back but what would like be like for him on this earth.
He does have the right to worship who HE wants but when he is walking around promoting and dont care about the thousands of young children that look up to him, it’s his responsibility to take his x factor going straight to hell symbol and put it away. I’m glad alot of people are educating themselves and seeing that all that glitters is not gold. The other day Rihanna was looking like a fresh faced happy go lucky young woman now she looks like a vampire who can barely stand to come out in the day, do these people have a monthly meeting on what terrible image they will portray those creepy nails and dark clothing with the makeup and empty blank stares it is time for people to wake up and stop obsessing over what these people are doing and where they are going and remember neither Jigga or his wife would give you the time of day if it did not benefit them. Turn off. Ever see jada’s little dark rock band with the black snake on the web page promoting some stupid ***** cult and claiming not to be a part of it? crazy, alot of these people look stone cold crazy and with some of them things will not end right
Bossip loves them some jay!
As a fan, I was really disturbed by that stuff, initially, but now, I kinda feel sorry for ol’ jigga. I would love for Jay to address that ***** and be honest cause that ***** is VERY slanderous if false. But if that’s what he does, its his right and something he will have to deal with when its time to collect.
“THE MOTIVATION FOR ME, IS THEM TELLIN ME WHAT I CANNOT BE” BOP BOP!!!
Lol people crack me up, yall wanna believe that illuminati ***** soooo badly. It gives you something to talk about. I was caught up in it for a min, I cant lie but then I stopped being so damn gullible and started using my brain. Jay Z is a very smart dude, for anyone that has any sort of esoteric knowledge, you KNOW the dark path leads to death and destruction, so you would not willingly follow it if you were wise. Jay Z has a good head on his shoulders. Remember when the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because he was a “devil worshipper” and a “blasphemer”? What did he say to them? “Is it not written, Ye Are gods?” Get a life people.
YOUTUBE can say ANYTHING and bring in all kinds of “evidence” that I worship the devil. I wonder with all these ppl pointing the finger at Jay, if anyone would’ve even recognised Christ back in the day. You would be the same people crucifying him.
Who cares. He’s too old too be doing hand signs anyway. Knock it off.
Jay stole that from WCW / WWF / WWE wrestler Diamond Dallas Paige… he sued Jay-Z’s ***** for that
Jay-Z can try to turn his back on Satan if he want too once you take that oath it’s over with. Satan will get in that ***** if HOV has a change of heart. I would be cocerned for his safety if he tried to turn his life around. I am sure God will accept him back but what would like be like for him on this earth.
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I agree. The earthly possesions have consumed him. He’s experienced enough earthly treasures to forget about that ***** now. Life would truly be hell on earth for dude, I believe, cause of the magnitude of his influence. With God, there is a peace of mind that’s truly unexplainable, in spite of the corrupt gov, false heros and haters.
I pray for dude, but that’s not my battle. Only thing I’m concerned about are the kids. We need to be in our communities giving them real heroes and stop putting these clowns on pedestals cause of their talent and money.
@ Another day
“The other day Rihanna was looking like a fresh faced happy go lucky young woman now she looks like a vampire
who can barely stand to come out in the day”
funny!
the roc sign has nothing to do with Satan. Ya’ll are retarted or just stupid as hell.
Hova seems very cool. Im starting to feel him a lot!
People can say whatever they want to say at the end of the day you can go get any Rihanna “Umbrella” video and see the bopohmet devil if you pause at the 2 minute 41 second mark rihanna has her hands up and her head down if you pause you will see the same bopohmet image Beyonce is wearing with the rearview mirriors so can somebody explain that fuc utube, this is something anybody can see on BET, MTV,or a video you buy at wal-mart
@ Beyonce’s Thong
“Only thing I’m concerned about are the kids. We need to be in our communities giving them real heroes and stop putting these clowns on pedestals cause of their talent and money.”
agreed.
People should worry about whether THEY are going to hell, worrying about this man and his salvation…
I know so-called “christians” in the church that are the biggest devils I have ever ran across, but I still go, cause THEY are not the means, nor the end to my relationship with GOD. Nor is Jay’Z a subliminal piped piper who is leading us all down the path to hell and unrighteousness. please decist with that *****. I wonder if all of these folks on here trying to make everyone aware of the illuminati are making their neighbors, co-workers and family aware so that they can save themselves as well? HELL NAW! Cause if they popped off that crazy ***** day in and day out to them, they’d be in a straight jacket.
True enough we all sin. It’s a BIG difference between sinning and Taking an oath for fame and fortune. It’s a difference between saying devil come into my life and use me. for a coulple of dollars. Correct me if I am wrong. Thats why the bopohmet devil that Beyonce was wearing that had rearview mirriors it’s symbolize a vehicle meaning she’s not in controll she is being used it’s a big damn difference.
Jay Z is a very smart dude, for anyone that has any sort of esoteric knowledge, you KNOW the dark path leads to death and destruction, so you would not willingly follow it if you were wise
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I feel where you coming from, but he did sell drugs. He, at some point, already accepted the path of death and destruction. Most cats from the environment he’s from are hopeless and God-less. The industry just has much larger rewards and a lot less risk, but the end result is pretty much the same, if he indeed does what they say he does. Most hustlers ain’t concerned with their soul. Money becomes their god. And if God isn’t your foundation, your susceptible to anything in pursuit of earthly treasures.
I’m not totally sold on him devil worshipping or whatever, but I do believe that’s who runs the industry and Jay is just playing ball, like any true hustler would. But that’s a dangerous game to play.
People should worry about whether THEY are going to hell, worrying about this man and his salvation…
I know so-called “christians” in the church that are the biggest devils I have ever ran across, but I still go, cause THEY are not the means, nor the end to my relationship with GOD. Nor is Jay’Z a subliminal piped piper who is leading us all down the path to hell and unrighteousness. please decist with that *****.
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@Alrighty Then…
THANK YOU!!!
I’m sick and tired of that NONESENSE TOO!!!
- Have they ever seen him with their OWN 2 eyes worshipping the devil = NO
- Do they know him personally and know for a FACT that he worships the devil = NO
And when you ask them what their proof is they tell you = YouTube… SMH
Conspiracy Theorist WHERE is your proof that Jay-Z is devil worshipper???
Dont get so heated because awareness is starting to come to people who need to know and show others what these messages stand for. There are many people who are sold out for Christ and not embarr*****ed to say so (many) just like Christains have to stop looking at the vessels and listen to the message the same is for these satan worshippers its time to stop walking eyes wide shut and not looking at the fancy clothes, luxury life styles, sexy hair and wild and crazy dance moves and check what is behind it, since half the people are too slow like in Rihanna and Beyonces videos they have to incorporate these symbols in there, so young inquiring minds who want to know how to be in every other video and commercial. The devil is a liar and he will never win. Every thing going on is the same group of people doing it up and their talents are mediocre at best and then some people have the nerve to get mad because we seeing it for what it is. Many people read way before Chris beat Rihanna how his mother said she practiced voodoo, not saying Chris was right, Im saying she looks like it. she dont talk nomore,just shows up and keeps walking. Alot people seen the video of JAy z mushing a young girl approaching him he is arrogant and why do all of them sound like they have trouble talking?
@slide – It’s the “hand-sign”! LMAO! Honey, we have gangs throwing up “hand-signs” right before they go out and murder someone for a color they are wearing, or because they are on the wrong block (gangster disciples anyone? Crips, Bloods?) or just cause they feel like it! I’d think that is more the work of the devil than this rapper- hello, he’s a RAPPER, not the damn president! WHO is he influencing? It always amazes me that folks expect other people (especially celebrities) to be responsible for raising THEIR kids! Take your kids to church, read the bible with them, let them know that the devil is a liar!
This man just told you what his thing means, and people still want to take it there…
Well, I will be “throwing up the Roc” on 11/22/09, when he comes here. Lord forgive me. lol….
People should worry about whether THEY are going to hell, worrying about this man and his salvation…
I know so-called “christians” in the church that are the biggest devils I have ever ran across, but I still go, cause THEY are not the means, nor the end to my relationship with GOD.
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I agree. Pray for him if that’s what you believe, but at the end of the day, that’s his salvation and his soul.
As far as the church, I have to tell people this all the time. Trust me, its people in the church that can lead you to hell faster than Jay ever could, LOL.
@ Beyonce’s Thong
If you never saw a video on youtube claiming that this is what these people do, you wouldn’t have ever even thought nothing along those lines. What gets me is you say you aren’t completely sold on the idea, if that’s true, then it’s best not to jump into a convo stating that is what this man is doing. “Thou shall not bear false witness”. All you are doin is regurgitating EXACTLY what the youtube videos have said. Sweetie, let me tell you that they have projected their own interpretations on this mans music and art. WHO IS ANYBODY TO JUDGE. This man talks about his struggle and rising above it. YES, selling crack is a path of destruction but everyone has their own path of destruction. And just because someone is into those things, DOES NOT mean they dont have faith. I know there are people who hustle because they feel they have no other choice. All things come together for the GOOD. God uses EVERYBODY right where they are. Some of the BEST cops make the best criminals, Some fo the BEST preachers make the worst sinners. Why? It’s called experience.
I’ve heard so many ridiculous things, from Halo being a song about loving demons and all kind of BS. Halo was written by a white girl, given to Leona Lewis but p*****ed down to Beyonce. The Motorcyle has been worn before and we all know poor Beyonce wanna be a legend/icon so bad that she imitates things from the past. Grow up.
The triangle is used more often then you think. Delta Sorority uses it, some non denominational church’s use it, satin worshippers use it. Everybody uses it so there is nothing original about this symbol or what it stands for. Get over it.
The triangle is used more often then you think. Delta Sorority uses it, some non denominational church’s use it for their interpretation of the holy trinity, and even satin worshippers use it. Everybody uses it so there is nothing original about this symbol or what it stands for. Get over it.
THAT’S IT!! Time for an acoustic album, set hip hop on its ear. Then I can play it in my office and fake certain people out LOL.
Whatever Jay I’m so over it, I know for a fact something isn’t right. But I know one damn thing I’m over Bossip and riding Jay so damn hard I haven’t commented in a while but Damn can all the Jay Z Topics go away, I really want to know he’s paying them. And that damn Diamond sign is not originial because NAS and Tupac was throwing it up so he can go sit down with that one.
@cookiehelp – “holy trinity” same thing I was thinking when I read your first post. Depends on what you CHOOSE to see.
Here’s a video of a white man beating up a bear that I found on YouTube… Using y’alls LOGIC it’s supposed to be real because it’s on YouTube… SMH
@slide
to be honest i hear what you are saying buta lot of those youtube vids use the actualy vids from the artist. it’s not just like they are making up the musicvids themselves. You don’t know Jay z and neither do I so don’t just believe everything that comes out of his mouth. just don’t be surprised if some crazy stuff does come out
How come *****ody came on here with the almighty, self-righteous type/tone spouting about baphomet and my favorite…”DO THE RESEARCH”?
Here’s an idea…understand that these people are ENTERTAINERS! You can choose to be entertained by them or not. Just because I personally think Nelly is wack doesn’t mean that the band-aid on his face was a symbol of him raping little boys! Furthermore, just because I think Jay is nice doesn’t mean that I take the title of the Blueprint albums literally and use his words to raise my children. Cats on here just spewing verbal diarrhea….Lucifer wasn’t even the song where he said ‘Lukey baby”. It was, in fact, Roc Boys, on American Gangster and Lukey was a reference to Frank Lucas, who was the primary subject of the movie of the same name….hell, listen to the verses and chorus on Lucifer he’s DENOUNCING the devil…rebuking him so that he does not sin. i.e. kill the people that killed his man Bob. Here’s another theory…could he be subliminally trying to convince sinners to be more righteous??? IMO…he’s doing neither…..IT’S ENTERTAINMENT!!!
its people in the church that can lead you to hell faster than Jay ever could, LOL.
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@Beyawnce’s Skid Marked Thong
You ain’t lying!!!
They be right in the club on Saturday Night shaking their a$$ too… How do I know because I’m up in their too getting drunk, grinding & dry humping on these freaky broads… SMH
“When the Remy’s in my system ain’t no telling”…
Oh forgive me Sweet Minty Baby Jesus you know my heart… SMH @ myself
@Dmarie
I could be wrong, but I’ve never seen Pac or Nas do that hand sign.
Jay is on here because he just dropped an album…its called PR…publicity….glad-handing. Bossip just reports whats happening and its not a stretch to have multiple topics on an entertainer who has a newly released project that is doing well.
I personally skip the posts of people I’m over……just sayin
All of you who say that ROC symbol is masonic are not informed and belive everything on the internet. One you have to belive in GOD to be a mason plaus everything you do is located in the bible you just have to know were to look. That Bophmet devil whatever some of you call it and are hung up on is also not a masonic symbol go to your neighborhood Barnes and *****les or library and read a book on masons stop belving the ***** on the internet and you tube. Wake UP READ A F**KIN BOOK
God does say Let them that have an ear, hear and those that have eyes, see. If you not getting the meaning of all these satanic messages on tv, not sure how many more little witch and warlock characters can be on childrens tv shows and in music videos and songs my goodness- if one cant see that then this thread can be endless and some people will get off thinkin woooow I still want to be like Jz not knowing what he had to do to get where he is. Ever heard “if you dont want to go thru what I had to go thru, you might not want what I got! ” There is a high price to fame.I believe that is the reason Whitney’s personal battles were put right on the big screen for all to see how low the enemy can take you, and as low as he can go, God can go deeper to pick you up. Say it aint so? Time will tell no sense in blog thugging we’ll see the manifestation of who these people are worshipping before it is over.
@slide
“Oh forgive me Sweet Minty Baby Jesus…” LMAO!
U goin 2 hell for that! Just kidding…don’t wanna start up another theory thread!
@Jewel
What you are saying would have made sense if this whole thing was just about Beyonce wearing the baphomet motorcyle outfit. But it isn’t.
1. If Beyonce claims to be a Christian then under no cir*****stances should she be glorifying the devil. That motorcycle outfit was damn right scary.
2. Kanye West was wearing that scary baphomet image on a shirt.
3. Rihanna wore a baphomet ring and not to mention what was previously said about the umbrella video.
4. I don’t care who gave Shawn Carter the Hova name, he claimed it proudly. Should we ignore the murder Jesus message in his song too.
So you see, you can blame youtube all you want and call us paranoid conspiracy theorists, but come on this is way toooooo much evidence for us to ignore.
I used to be a Beyonce fan and no I am not a hater the woman is beautiful and talented, but I revere God and will not support anyone who worships the devil.
They have a right to worship whomever they want but their music is aimed at children and young adults, so we have a right to call them out and not support them.
You don’t know Jay z
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@Dmariefashion
First off, take that damn silly a$$ shoe-string that’s wrapped around your head off…
Who told you that was cute??? WTF??? SMH
And you got the nerve to call yourself a “fashionista” = LOL!!!
HOLD UP, how do you know WHO I KNOW???
I USED TO work in the entertainment industry and have WORKED WITH and PARTIED right ALONG SIDE some of the people that are SUPPOSED to be devil worshippers…
Matter of fact, I PARTIED with one of them in August on a YACHT and then partied with him and chopped it up with him AGAIN just a few weeks ago!!!
I haven’t SEEN ANYTHING that would cause me to believe that they worship the devil and I have WORKED with them and partied with these folks NUMEROUS times throughout the years…
Should we ignore the murder Jesus message in his song too.
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@Thomas
HAVE YOU HEARD IT PLAYED BACKWARDS RIGHT IN FRONT 2 EYES YOURSELF???
or
is it because somebody said it on a YouTube Video???
HAVE YOU SEEN Beyonce worsphipping the devil with YOUR OWN 2 EYES???
or you believe so because of what somebody said on a YouTube video???
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???
Please provide credible evidence, wikipedia and YouTube are NOT credible sources for your claims…
I think Jay-Z and a number of others are brainwashing people. Especially the young innocent ones…
@ Thomas
Sweetie…like I said, I was once caught up in the whole “they’re devil worshippers” thing. But then my inquiring God-given mind made me dig a little deeper.
I love this quote by Pimp or Die, …could he be subliminally trying to convince sinners to be more righteous???” Cuz honestly, i do believe that could possibly be a subliminal message. I did a little more research on Baphomet and not just take what I was told and run with it. Baphomet’s original meaning was not one of Satanism, but one of wisdom. The symbol was drawn by a very righteous group to symbolize man, the goat head is there because it represents man’s sinning nature. But the rest is available to you through research, Satanists adopted the symbol for shock value, because the symbol was controversial with The Church. And by the way, Satanists DO NOT believe in the devil. And neither do Jews who are pre-Christian. And you CANNOT be a Freemason AND a Satanist, luciferian or Atheist. Freemasons believe in a benevolent Creator-GOD.
@ thomas
You can try all you want for them to see it your way. It’s too late, they done got to all of them and they are now followers. (willingly or not)
AND THE “MURDER JESUS” record was proven false. “DO YA RESEARCH” What do these ppl have to do for yall to leave them alone? Because they have a lot of money and fame?? So that is the only you become rich and famous, by selling your soul? NOT! how about its all about Networking. And knowing the ppl at the top and making your way up. You know, HARD WORK?!? Jay Z has said “Lord Jesus, please be my savior” and NO ONE EVER talks about that. I work in PR in NY and on numerous occasions I have heard that Jay in facts has to put Beyonce in check at times to let her know that there is more to life than money and fame. That is why they are so private. To have that much money and still be sane and in your right mind takes knowledge of Self and THAT is what I think Jay stresses.
Yes, he is!! LOVE YOU JAY!
@Jewel or should I say HOV PR team person go make sure he has on the right outfit or something.
@slide
first off i didn’t come at you ignorant but i c i hit hard somewhere for you to be a ***** out of nowhere. And wow your going to aim at my fashion sense coming from a ***** that has a crackhead as his avatar the ***** out of here. And yes i consider myself a fashionista i’m sure your a wack ***** folower who wears urban clothing and sags and buys the next plies cd wack *****. now like i said i didn’t come at you ignorant just spoke my opinion on what you said. but since you want to step to me wrong ***** expect to get it back. And ***** you don’t know jay z or any big ***** entertainer, your just fronting prob because you was invited to a damn industry party once. get off your fake ***** high horse and stop sucking these artist off
Why does Beyonce have dummies in the trunk of the car in the “DIVA” video let me tell you she knows she throws her ***** everywhere and flash the devil and her dumb ***** stans are just that dumb dummies!
@ slide
i never said believe i said don’t be surprised if some crazy ***** come out. people put on a nice act and then the next day there somebody different.
@pimp or die
yea they have pics of nas when he first came out holding up the sighn and tupac made the symbol wih his fingers on one of his cds, it’s kind of wierd
@ Pay Me
LOL Why, because I’m telling you to leave this man alone? I dont follow the crownd hunny, sorry.
@Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators
unless you are on Shawn Carter’s payroll there is no need for you to work so hard for him.
Funny how you are more upset about what Dmariefashion is wearing than you are about the Beyonce devil outfit.
I gave you all my explanation of how I came to my conclusion about what these people are about and non of it had anything to do with youtube. Take it easy
@Dmariefashion
don’t even sweat this dude, he is just mad that his idols have been exposed for the frauds that they are
*crowd*
@Dmariefashion
btw you look beautiful
LOL I find it funny that there are two sides in this debate:
One side is saying you don’t know that they really are doing these things and the other is fighting so hard to claim that they do but probably have never seen these people behind closed doors to say they do.
U goin 2 hell for that!
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@Pimp or Die
Fam, like I said the Good Lord “knows my heart”…
SMH @ myself…
But anyways, What was Jesus’s first miracle = he turned water into wine…
Ok then, so I was up in the reggae section of this club sippin’ on this alcoholic beverage and I seen this girl across the room eyeing me and then that Serani Song “No Games” came on (*click on my name to see the video) and she started shaking her a$$ like something I’ve never seen before!!! Slim, I don’t what happened but somehow I ended up right behind her and was grindin’ and dry humpin’ like I don’t know what!!!
Cousin, I don’t know what that has to do with the topic but I felt like telling you the story and yes I made it to church on time to ask the Good Lord for forgiveness ’cause the flesh is weak and “he knows my heart”…
If the Bopohmet devil does symbolize wisdom why the hell is dumb ***** Beyonce wearing it. I am black so why would I wear a KKK mask and say that back in the day this mask meant purity and justice for all GTFOH
@thomas
thank you hun =)
ROFLOL-This is HILARIOUS..I have read EVRY single comment here and although the Illuminati theory sounds plausible when taken out of context, it is CLEAR that those writing about it here have no more than a youtube, preachers sermon, conspiracy theory understanding of the Illuminati or the New World Order/New Age Movement.
It you did, you’d know that NONE of the hand symbols, song references have anything to do it. I have studied as a part of my religious history for about 15 years now, and my advice is simple.
If you’d like to REALLY know it’s origin, history and understand it’s evolution and progression/plan start studying for YOURSELF and STOP riding the wave of you tube.
In fact, the effort and movement towards connecting the Illuminati to Jay Z/HipHop or Barack Obama is deliberate. It is designed to make you look in their direction, while the true power secretly operates elsewhere.
@ Jewel
I also find it very funny that you are defending someone you do not know. Have you been to his house or seen him behind closed doors? No, so you keep your opinion and we will have ours…
Brainwashing at it’s finest. Jay, you did good man. They on here fighting for you!
@ example
Co-sign!
@ Kay Kay
Agreed! All I’m saying is for someone who wants to be so righteous, you probably shouldn’t bear false witness. You know, making claims about someone that isn’t true? Thats a commandment. And I’m not defending him, just asking what are your sources?
It’s over with now Hov put his people on the blogs to clear up everything.Now it’s a answer for everything GTFOH again.
@slide
LOL…u a funny dude! I used to do the same thing, but I decided that it would be better if I spent my time on blogs defaming people I don’t know anything about personally.
Damn, man u would think Jay killed MLK, JFK and dropped the towers the way people on here go in…and all cuz dude got a lil paper???
If that’s all it takes then I gotta stop my wife from tivo’n Oprah every day…that *****’s probably got her headed for a prime date with Beelzebub!
WTH is going on in here? I can’t wait to be able to see the video…Cause I’m getting scared…LOL! I love me some Jigga and lord knows I don’t want to be getting some subliminal messages that tells me to slap a Mexican when more than two of them get together and yap some BS! LOL!
Masons do not worship the devil. i dated a prince hall mason. he is a christian. al sharpton is a mason and so are a lot of other minsters. is there a Mason on here that could please set these ignorant people straight!!
next people will be saying that he is a delta sigma theta
umm hov is that dude.. haterz fall the ***** back. why press the play button if you dont like him? lmao. lames.
@Renee DUH we know it’s bigger than HOV and we know m*****a using his ***** just as hard as hov using us, but HOV getting paid for it knowing what they are doing.We know at the end of the day when Hov fuc up for real it over for his ***** and the big picture will still unfold.illumanti speak money they don’t giv a fuc about a HOV
@ Renee
That might be the most profound thing I’ve ever read on here…
@KayKay & example
That might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read on here…
@mya
Girl please you have that ***** wrong…Masons nor OESs worship the devil…Just cause they don’t tell people their secrets does not mean that..
Someone said it earlier that they base everything off God and that is so true my ex was an OES and I know for sure she didn’t worship no damn devil or Popeye’s Chicken! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
@Mya
Ok I am sorry I meant to say that too someone else up above…You are right!
Mason are not the problem the illumanti is the problem. My mom worked with a black mason and I met him last week. He told me all about the masons he bragged about being a mason over 30 years. He bragged about all his world wide connections he stated that 33 or 34 was the higest level and that he was 33 he went on and on I was like damn STFU masons are regular people with good connections but who is the illumanti
@Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators
You don’t know Jay z
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@Dmariefashion
First off, take that damn silly a$$ shoe-string that’s wrapped around your head off…
Who told you that was cute??? WTF??? SMH
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that was mean! lol! I don’t think I’ve seen that side of you before… (I kinda like it!) lmao!
But seriously, I took it as her being young. My sister wears those things, and she’s only 17. I agree they do look stupid though, and now my sister has a tan line across her forehead! lol! Totally off subject… lol.
I really enjoyed this clip. He is quite a charming guy!! It was a different side of him than I ejoyed seeing!!
The old Mason theorys are based on evil but the new mason have tried to turn the image around Masons accept any relegion so of course you can worship the devil and be a mason but I am not quite sure on the mason thing it can go both ways but I do know masons who are not evil and are regular people.
@Fred you are so right…
@Mya I am really sorry for putting your name as I commented back to someone that was misinformed…
People always want to down something they know nothing about…Ignorance is a damn disease I swear that ***** started in the 80s I think..LOL!!
I’m a Prince Hall Master Mason 3rd Degree….that’s why I can unequivocally refute most of this bs. We don’t worship the devil and there is no spooky symbolic boogeyman that we sacrifice virgins to….I SERVE ONE FATHER. Hell, I’m also a member of the the illustrious fraternity of Kappa Alpha Psi and that doesn’t mean I worship women(well, maybe a little, Forgive me father for I have sinned…lol)
I have also had the opportunity to be around dude more than a handful of times…and not at a Masonic mtg…lol. That doesn’t make me an expert on him personally, but given that benefit, its easy to see how stupid this is. I just go back and forth with the debate cuz its fun for me…
Alrighty Then… (why do all of the “men” on Bossip argue w/ females?)
You know I’m not going to comment on the whole fashion thing to each there own. But take me as being young hmmmm well I rather be young and not blind than 30 yrs old or plus listening to Jay Z like he’s some gods gift to earth. So I hope many young people like me will wake the hell up. O and hanks for the 17 compliment thats a big boost to my ego
@Alrighty Then… (why do all of the “men” on Bossip argue w/ females?)
A tan line LOL!!!
RAMBOOOOOOO!!!
For the last time the Mason Do*****entary aired on the discovery channel this weekend and MASONS ACCEPT ANY RELEGION.
@Dmarie – whatever ma. The ***** was funny. That’s all. I ain’t mad atcha. Like I said, my lil sister rocks it. Do you boo!
Jay-Z will be 40. His fan base is mostly 30+. I don’t get the point you are trying to make, but anyway, moving on…
@Fred
WTF were you trying to say? Whatever angle I read that ish at still doesn’t make sense to me.
You made a definite and utterly false statement about Masons and then went on to say, “I’m not sure about the Mason thing”….you’re not sure? No kidding
i think jay and others do some shady ***** but i dont think they worship the devil. the people they work for worship the devil. the illuminati and whatnot. youtube tupac killuminati.
@Dmarie
Girl what is wrong with you?
Most people that have since know Jay-Z isn’t a God…But that dayum T-pain the ***** huh?
(I am so bull*****ting)
Let me buy you a CD and let you listen to the intelligence that flows out that man’s mouth…Jay-Z is smart and whether you want to take that as meaning he is a God, then read a book matter fact read the Bible..Because dude is good at his craft doesn’t make him a devil worshipper nor does that mean he should dumb it down so you can catch up either… I am good at my job and I know I praise the LORD!
WHOA! I shocked myself with that one…LOL!
If one mo’ muhsucker get on here talkin’ bout You Tubin’ some ish!!!!
@ Des
Checkmate!
@Pimp or Die…
You know people live by that Youtube ***** just as they live by wikipedia LMAO!
@Pimp Or Die because like I stated I have met Masons in the past. If you go to the discovery channel and look up the do*****entary you will see what I am saying. The doc is two hours and the first hour they tell you about all the evil things you hear people say they don’t sugar coat it and then the last half hour they say this is not true (in the first hour they prove it’s true)and give the Mason story in a whole nother light so it’s confusing you spend the first hour scared to def than the next hour everything change and part of the initation process you have to pray to the God of your choice. So if you see the doc you will see what I am saying.
*correction sense*
Look at me slowing down LOL!
@Pimp Or Die – “If one mo’ muhsucker get on here talkin’ bout You Tubin’ some ish!!!!”
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exactly! Ya’ll got me rolling in here today! Much more entertaining than arguing the points of ignorance in the Toya post… One more hour, keep me laughing ya’ll!
1. If Beyonce claims to be a Christian then under no cir*****stances should she be glorifying the devil. That motorcycle outfit was damn right scary.
2. Kanye West was wearing that scary baphomet image on a shirt.
3. Rihanna wore a baphomet ring and not to mention what was previously said about the umbrella video.
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@Thomas
That’s the BEST that you could do???
Are you SERIOUS… SMH
- A motorcycle outfit that was designed for her by the winner of a Reality Show that she was later sued for (*the story is Bossip) for non-payment…
- A random a$$ t-shirt that the Gayfish wore…
- A random a$$ ring and video that was created/directed by somebody else along with a song written by somebody else = The Dream…
Dawg, I know you’re smarter than that, come on now…
Explain to me why do Kanye and Bubba Lip Shawn wear Jesus Pieces then, if they’re devil worshippers then why do they do that?
Please explain O’ wise one, since you have it all figured out… SMH
@ duh wtf-I’m no longer laughing because the truth IS important so please start your independent study (I promise you it will be the most valuable journey you’ve ever taken. The New Age Movement; and the Illuminati 666 by William Josiah Sutton (books 1 & 2) will take you all the way back to the beginning (historic and religious). It will also, direct you to the additional resources necessary to validate.
@ pimp or die-Thanks!
@ Fred-There is a connection between original Freemasonry & The Illuminati. As you study, you’ll discover that the Black Masonic movement began out of ignorance, because blacks were NOT and are NOT welcome into actual Freemasonry. This is why I am so vehemently opposed to beginning a parallel movement, simply because we are not allowed into the white man’s organization. Some of the things they do we should NEVER endeavor to be a part of or to emulate.
In closing, my pastor said to me when I first began my studies on this subject, when we (African Americans) could not read, ignorance was an excuse, but we can read now and are therefore accountable for the ignorance we so p*****ionately embrace.
Love and Peace Family,
@Alrighty Then
Hey I was in that Toya post…but I don’t know sometimes I think I am getting Ignorant following Bossip.Quick help me before these white people that run this site complete their mission of dumbing us all down to ***** heads LMAO!
@ renee
thank you for that. you sound like you actually make sense.
@Renee
I love it way to end it girllll!!
@Slide Like correction Hov wears a black Jesus piece and we know Hov is a black man.
@Renee the mason is where people had to go underground to study Nostradumas had to go under with his pratice of alcany and it is beleived he was a mason so that is why I am not sure of the masons being eveil you stated black people had to pratice underground like nostradumas so the question is who is evil the people who had to go undergroung or the people who sent them running underground.sorry about all the mispelled words whatever.
I was proclaimed as being one of the Bossip resident conspiracy people, and I dont even beleive Jay-Z, Beyonce, Rhihanna, Kanye are devil worshippers…just sayin
@ dmarie i think the headbands cute. i wear them all the time. old heads wouldnt understand they’re not up to date with fashion lol.
@des
r u serious???? jayz may say a few hot lines from time to time but please!!!!!!! r u serious. i’m just going to laugh about that one. I only like a few of his songs because i don’t like his flow ***** always sounds choppy to me gets on my nerves somtimes. And I can’t really respect him or most of these artist because the singles that they let on the radio are never positive. People always say buy there album and you will hear a difference but how many kids or people in general are going to actually buy a cd when they can hear a wack ***** single on the radio for free. Jay Z and many of the other rappers keep putting the image out there that money is power and that’s not a good image.
But like Jay Z says: “Do What thou wilth” lol wow
@ok
thanks hun i love them, i love 70’s fashion so i was happy when it was a fashion statement again
ILLUMINATI, NEW WORLD ORDER
FREEMASONS
he is definitely a memeber of one of the organizations…
I just think it is about control and abundance of cash, ruling those who don’t have, that’s the part every one starts talking about him worshping the devil… I dk how true that is..
@tony redd- glad to see you still hanging in there..
What wrong with triangles, this is related to geometry and related the Pyramids.
What is wrong with stars? Are they not *****ociated with the heavens?
I could have sowrn that, that symbol was that of Delta Sigma Theta, Inc. There is nothing original about him. When I first saw that I thought he was praising the Deltas, but I should have known better. Has he been approached by the organization about using that symbol, since he likes lawyers. It goes both ways Jay-Z. You’re not the only person in the world with an attorney.
Hey Always Knew
@Dmarie..
I am going to leave you alone it has already been made to clear to us that you are a kid…So in a minute your computer lab cl***** will be over and you will have to go home…So make sure you pick up that bible tonight ok Hun and read a couple verses
And stop listening to people like Plies, T-Pain and whomever else didn’t make it p***** the 5th grade ok boo boo..Ta Ta for now..RAMBO!
And the triangle also represents GAYNESS TOO LOL!!
So hey this can go both ways people!
And ***** you don’t know jay z
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@Dmariefashion
Sweetheart I NEVER said I knew Jay-Z…
WHEN & WHERE did I say that???
I took a picture with him and chopped it up with his buddy Ty-Ty at an industry event a few years back that’s about it, oh yeah I see him at the 40/40 Club a bunch of times…
If you don’t believe that I used to work in the entertainment industry = I don’t care and why should it bother me that you don’t believe me? My reason for bringing that up is to explain WITH proof & evidence that I have NEVER seen ANYTHING to support these claims and I’ve WORKED with and PARTIED with some of the people that are SUPPOSED to be devil worshippers…
Alright since that’s done, let’s get back to that “shoe-string” wrapped around your head… SMH
Who told you that ridiculous a$$ sh*t was cute???
You trying to be “fashion forward”??? SMH
What you need to do is get rid of them so-called friends of yours that let you rock that bullsh*t… Shawty they ONLY let you do that so they can look better than you while you walk around looking stupid = it’s an old trick that females do ask any older female they’ll tell you and put you onto game…
It’s a shame too because you’re an attractive girl with a VERY beautiful smile… SMH STOP messing it up with that damn shoe-string wrapped around your head “Ms. Fashionista”…
he told yall where he got the sign from. its not no devil worship. any time a brotha becomes successful you wanna say he had the devils help. the rock sign was being thrown up since 1996 before Jay-z was even a mogul ma. I mean can the man live??? if you go back and listen to his music there are countless times when he gave thanks to the lord for puttin him in a position to be succesfull. Listen to the song storm feat. lenny kravitz…
@ DES
did you not read what I wrote I just said that I hate rappers like Plies jay Z ect because of the image they display maybe the convo is done wih you because you obviously can not comprehend. Jay Z is not positive and neither are the rest of those wack ***** rappers and most singers. I bet you don’t even know the meaning behind ” Do What Thou Wilt” lol which Jay Z flaunts proudly. All you know is you’ve grown up listening to him and you like his music, so get out of here
bull***** he got it from nas
@Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators
Kanye is not a Christian
Kanye made a satement about him believing in Jesus as an icon “I don’t give it all up to Jesus ….. People will say ‘Aw, man he wasn’t saying that Jesus thing when he made the song!’ But, when I made the song, that’s how I felt, but this is six years later. This is how I feel now.”
Link below
therundown.tv/headlines/say-what/kanye-west-looks-at-jesus-as-an-icon/
Kanye with the baphomet shirt link below
samuelcraven.com/work/jay-z-is-a-freemason/
To Christians (I’m talking about Christians not Jehovah’s Witnesses) Jesus can never just be an icon – He is God in the flesh.
No need for me to go any further, what I mentioned above is sufficient proof, but I’m sure who will try to prove us wrong. LOL
@always knew
This is why black folks lose court cases…they always make definitive statements about things they THINK! I could read your post and say you’re definitely a member of any organization of people with big ***** fingers based on how you spelled ‘member’….not trying to diss, I’m just saying that my *****umption based on the one thing I see/know about you is probably wrong…maybe you just can’t spell…lol
@regal
Please tell me you’re not trying to say that DST has a patent on a handsign??? and they approached him about doing it??? via their legal counsel??? What’s the You-Tube tag for that one?
SMDH
*you
@ slide
again about the whole fashion thing to each his own. I’m sure you wouldn’t know anything about past fashion where Hippies use to wear this. This so called shoe string has been around for years many of your family members prob had them as well,wearing them around there afros, protesting about the war so get out of here with that. I wear what makes me happy and if a shoe string around my head does then I will. I’m not here to impress you or any other ignorant person on bossip. But I’m sure that old trick was played on you when a gay thug from jail started to sag his pants in the hood, and all you ***** riders started to wear it like it’s cool, not even knowing what it meant. LMAO
@TJ – I recall having read something like that about Kanye. Lil Wayne said some sideways ***** about the Bible or God too. BUT even if he doesn’t believe in God, does that automatically mean he believes in the Devil?
After Ms. Carter told that story about Jay learning to ride his bike on the Black Album, I said to myself aint no way that boy is a devil worshipper…lmao!!
@Alrighty Then
No, being an atheist does not mean that you worship the devil, but denying the divinity of Christ and openly wearing the devil outfits does (I’m talking about Kanye).
@ Fred, OK and Des-I typed an entire response to Fred’s question and it has not appeared…HMMMMM..(not surprising, cause the first edition of the book i referenced earlier was BANNED in the USA)
I’m not discussing this on here anymore, Fred and anyone else interested holla and we can set-up a study group.
@BEE
“he told yall where he got the sign from. its not no devil worship. any time a brotha becomes successful you wanna say he had the devils help.”
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Exactly! he couldn’t have possibly acquired his position because he is the best at his craft? Oh No! A ***** couldn’t POSSIBLY attain this status and $$ in life of his own accord! He HAD to have sold his soul to the devil!
What does that say about the expectations that some of these folks actually have for themselves? Low expectation having *****es!
2nd attempt
@ Fred-Let me rephrase my earlier statement. The original order of Freemasons is a “whites only” organization. Because blacks clearly had limited background information on the TRUTH of Freemasonry, scholars and researchers have determined that the Black Masonic movement was started as a rebellion of sorts to not being allowed to join the original Freemasons.
Similar to the movement that surmises that changing NI**ER to NI*A, changes it’s meaning AND takes the negativity out of it. In my humble opinion, that too is a practice born of willful ignorance..
WHEW,
Ya’ll makin a sista step her history/religious game up something terrible..LOL
I Love it and ALL of you more than you’ll ever know..
TRW
Is Ty-Ty Gay? LMAO!
I wear what makes me happy and if a shoe string around my head does then I will.
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@Dmariefashion
Ok, I see where you’re coming from = Do your thing Lil’ Momma
If it’s one thing that I respect it’s when people are NOT followers and think for themselves and do what makes them happy as opposed to just doing what everybody does just because…
You keep on doing what makes you happy alright
Since you’re a youngin’ (*I didn’t know that) I apologize if I hurt your feelings, I’m sorry
I should be building you up and not breaking you down especially ’cause you’re a lil’ Sista…
@Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators
lol – You are either a major JayZ stan or you work for him or possibly you are him. Either way you are funny.
he told yall where he got the sign from. its not no devil worship. any time a brotha becomes successful you wanna say he had the devils help. the rock sign was being thrown up since 1996 before Jay-z was even a mogul ma. I mean can the man live??? if you go back and listen to his music there are countless times when he gave thanks to the lord for puttin him in a position to be succesfull. Listen to the song storm feat. lenny kravitz…
Exactly! he couldn’t have possibly acquired his position because he is the best at his craft? Oh No! A ***** couldn’t POSSIBLY attain this status and $$ in life of his own accord! He HAD to have sold his soul to the devil!
What does that say about the expectations that some of these folks actually have for themselves? Low expectation having *****es!
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@BEE & Alrighty Then…
THANK YOU!!!
These people act as if ANY & ALL successful Black People ONLY got to where they are because they took some oath & worship the devil = FOOLISHNESS if you ask me!!!
Bubba Lip Shawn gave a clear & legitmate sounding explanation to how they came about doing the Roc Symbol/Sign and these people STILL want to believe some silly a$$ YouTube Video with cartoon explanations making it seem as though every little thing that they do is a sign of devil worshipping…
You can believe everything on YouTube if you want but I’m NOT!!!
I bet you these same people know all the words to Jay-Z’s hits anyways and be singing them joints when they hear a Jay-Z song come on = LMAO!!!
Gullible a$$ suckers…
@Renee
Preach sister preach
@Slide Like just keep on dic riding Hov and spending your money on his CD you all a part of their plan. Thats what they thought people were dumb ***** hell this illumanti ***** has been going on now people catching on with this *****. You just like the dummy in the trunk of Beyonce car in the DIVA video you don’t beleive it and Jay and Bey sitting back laughing at yo dumb *****.
He & wifey CANNOT B STOPPED!! I love them, I can see why she fell for him more now he is very funny and a funny, well dressed, papered up, smelling good, successful, no baby/baby mommma havin’ man sounds like a GREAT move to me too Bey…GO GIRL!
DDP “Diamond Cutter”
lol – You are either a major JayZ stan or you work for him or possibly you are him. Either way you are funny.
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@Samantha
Beautiful, I ain’t no Jay-Z Stan but I’m a fan of his music though… If I was a “stan” I wouldn’t call that man = “Bubba Lip Shawn”… And by the way, yes they do be up on these blogs = I’ve seen them with my own eyes and I was surprised myself to be honest with you…
Naw, after he gave a legitimate sounding explanation about how they came about using the Roc Symbol, I decide to argue with the C-O-N-spiracy Theorists about all of the devil worshipping nonsense that they run around and put up on ALL of the blogs… I don’t usually argue with them but today I decided to and all I want them to do is provide PROOF and EVIDENCE about their claims and for them to NOT use YouTube as their ONLY source… You feel me?
Thank you by the way, I appreciate it…
@WTF-Hallelooyer!!!!!!! ROFLOL……
Man it’s obvious Jay-Z is a part of the Freemasons. This is a satanic organization.
Nas said it the best on “Ether” “Whats sad is I love you you traded your soul for riches”
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@slide
Ok. My bad. I believe you. wink
Hova=God. No wonder he and Oprah are such good friends. They are one of few people who believe that their money makes them Gods.
Like just keep on dic riding Hov and spending your money on his CD you all a part of their plan. Thats what they thought people were dumb ***** hell this illumanti ***** has been going on now people catching on with this *****. You just like the dummy in the trunk of Beyonce car in the DIVA video you don’t beleive it and Jay and Bey sitting back laughing at yo dumb *****.
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@The Doofus
Eat a d*ck you ***** sucking coward!!!
You can believe them stupid a$$ cartoons and them dumb a$$ YouTube claims all you want but I’m not…
Use your brain you gullible a$$ sucka…
WHERE is your PROOF & EVIDENCE???
How come NOT one of you clowns can advise where to go besides YouTube to support your claims, you f*cking clown go join the circus…
Jay is a liar just like his master Lucifer. Of course he won’t tell us what his sign literally means. Jay is smart enough to know that if everyone knew the truth it would be hard to sell records hence making it harder for the fools who throw up the “roc” to give praise to his master.
The proof is out there for those who can decipher it. Its not going to ring your doorbell you have to search for it and recognize the devils call sign.
@Slide like- (Jay-Z) HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH HA YOU DUMB FUC I think I am god and I love dumb *****es like Slide who dic ride and won’t even take the time to open their eyes. (Fred) you can go to any library and read up on the *****. Like I say the discovery channel has a whole doc on masons. You don’t find it funny that he is trying to clear the air on the low. any way Hov and Bey sitting back with all you dummies in the trunk of the car (diva video)laughing at yo dumb *****. Dummy please crawl out the trunk of the car so Jay and Bey can stop laughing at yo dumb blind *****.
@KocaKola
I feel the same way.
Oprah does not come right out and say that she is endorsing the new age movement, which is a doctrine that teaches humans have divinity within themselves but not in the person of Jesus or the Holy Spirit as Christians do.
Oprah believes she is a god and so does Shawn Carter and maybe this is why he is one of the few rappers she swoons over. SMH
They can believe what they want, but I have a problem with them sneaking in their views and masking it as Christianity.
@KocaKola
I feel the same way.
Oprah does not come right out and say that she is endorsing the new age movement, which is a doctrine that teaches humans have divinity within themselves but not in the person of Jesus or the Holy Spirit as Christians do.
Oprah believes she is a god and so does Shawn Carter and maybe this is why he is one of the few rappers she swoons over. SMH
They can believe what they want, but I have a problem with them sneaking in their views and masking it as Christianity.
@Tj
I agree with you
@TJ
Can I ask you a question? And this is serious. I dont know about what “New Agers” believe but tell me this, where does the Holy Spirit reside? How do you talk to God? Does God speak to you? If so, how? God aint in the church building my friend. “The flesh it is the temple, and the temple is the Church.”
@Pimp Or Die FINALLY A PH MASON TO LET THESE FOOLS KNOW WERE NOT DEVIL WORSHIPERS THE SAME ONES ON THE POST CALIMING TO HAVE READ THIS AND THAT DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
@Rona @KocaKola @TJ
Taken out of factual context and placed within the context of random explanations and theories, I understand the suspicion, however the statements above regarding Oprah/Jay Z/Barack Obama dangerously oversimplify the new age movement.
The danger in over-simplification is that the TRUTH, gets buried beneath the smoke and mirrors.
TRUST and STUDY-Oprah, Jay Z and POTUS, though brilliant minds and business people, have often operated as distractions, in their ignorance and/or naivete!
@ Renee
Yes my comments are oversimplified I just don’t have the energy today to try to convince people of the obvious. God has to open their eyes for all they see is foolishness. You should familiarize yourself with “Maitreya” the coming world teacher/false prophet who is suppose to bring peace on earth.
By the way, Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Inc, (Hey Sorors) actually holds up that symbol and about 5-8 years ago was about to sue Jay-Z for holding it up (as DST is copyrighted and thats why his has a “dip” in it and ours does not.
Get it right!!!
New Agers believe that we are all Gods and once humanity realizes our “divine nature” we will ascend like the masters before us (ect. Jesus) and reign as Gods of the universe.
These teachings are demonic and intented to distract us from the true God so that we will share in the devil’s destruction.
I wonder how much his social security checks are.
you are so wrong he has a dip in it because it’s the seeing eye when you look from the other side you should see one eye through the diamond when it comes to delta’s you just throw it up any kind of way not when the roc does it you have to show one eye
New Age teaching is the Old trick Satan used in the garden of Eden when he told Eve she would be like God if she ate of the apple. And like Eve many will take the bait.
I’m sorry I’m not wrong, we just don’t throw it uo “anyway” I did pledge so I know what I’m talking about boo. So shut the ***** up and sit down hoe.
God made us in his image so we are all little gods. There is only ONE GOD, however because god created us in his image, we follow certain rules. For example, treating our bodies like temples, not eating pork, not being sexually promiscuous. And there is NOTHING new age about that.
The all seeing eye of “Ra” an ancient God that was praised through the worship of the sun. The top half of the R in the Roc logo has the dip to advertise the “all seeing eye” of Ra aka Satan. This is the devil’s call sign. Those with wisdom understand this.
So are Deltas suposed to throw it up in front of one eye. Yes/no if you look at all the pictures of Hov throwing it up you can see one of his eyes.
We are NOT Gods. We are mortals created by God for a divine purpose that Satan corrupted when he decieved Eve into eating off the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Since Eve committed the first sin our purpose has been to learn godly character (resist sin) so that we may eat of the Tree of life and recieve the gift of immortality. Those who cannot atttain godly character will not recive the gift of eternal life but will reap destruction along with Satan and his demons.
Yo angry black ***** you need not represent delta’s that way. You are proven dark skins girls are angry and evil Yo black ***** had no reason to call me a hoe shut yo super black ***** up angry ***** delta.
So HOW do the “new-agers” if they believe themselves to be Gods, worship the devil? If you believe in the existence of the devil, wouldn’t you also have to believe in the existence of God Almighty? They do, after all go together like Peanut Butter n Jelly. Can’t have one w/o the other.
How do people who are not familiar with the “new-agers” become bamboozled? Is it through song, video? Spoken word? HOW are they brainwashing the m*****es, and WHAT are they brainwashing them to do?
Personally, I do not listen to, or entertain any talk about any religion or way of life that doesn’t pertain to MY GOD’S divine plan. Hell, I won’t even ENTER certain churches, because I feel like their actions are blasphemous. (whole church speaking in tongues, people being touched on the temple and falling out – NO SIR!)
Please tell me, as I do not want to be indoctrinated into this cult! (*dripping w/ sarcasm*)
New Agers worship the devil because they accept and praise his teachings as truth. These new age teachings are from Satan. The concept that we are all Gods and there is no sin came from Satan himself. The whole reason Satan was kicked out of heaven was his arrogance and pride that pumped him up to believe that he was equal to or greater than God. He was the smartest and most beautiful angel and because of this he became arrogant and haughty.
I normally don’t chime in on these discussions. I know what I know,I’ve read what I’ve read and I’ve researched extensively.
@Renee you are exactly right. Masonry originally was began in Europe and did not include Africans let along slaves(African Americans) at the time. Masonry at its roots is a modified version of rituals, information, facts and beliefs p*****ed on for thousands of years by early stone masons who initially began by harboring the secrets of stone masonry from other tradesmen as am men to solidify their ability to be in demand and make a living- that’s the quick version. Today’s version is something much more corrupt than its original intent.
@slide, man normally your level headed when I read through these blogs… don’t know what’s up today… the only proof I can offer you on the whole Jay Z thing is, when he spoke of the making of his latest video he had on a sweat shirt that had a statement written across the front. Read that statement and then research a guy by the name of Aleister Crowley. He has a lot of lit out there and I haven’t read them all but the two I have are very interesting. You should look for The Books of Thelema and the book of the law. Those two will be telling and once your read them you’ll see clearer. Also look for a book on Crowley written by Lawrence Sutin. If you want to know, you’ll know and if you don’t, don’t bother reading. Many things are hidden in plain sight therefore its impossible to see if your looking under or into things. Sometimes you have to look at the obvious, the little things that grace your presence everyday. It’s always in the details of the familiar that you find the most useful information. @the you tubers, if you don’t read historical information and research to understand the full design of everything around you to a degree you can explain it with insight beyond its face value, then there’s no point in bringing it up. Your opponents will use your ignorance and unknowing to dismantle your argument and have you doubting yourself. Even though you know that your gut is screaming that something stinks. Just my two cents… PEACE
God says “pride comes before the fall”
KocaKola
The all seeing eye of “Ra” an ancient God that was praised through the worship of the sun. The top half of the R in the Roc logo has the dip to advertise the “all seeing eye” of Ra aka Satan. This is the devil’s call sign. Those with wisdom understand this.
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Thats not true Kola…How is the worship of the sun the “devils” work when God created it? Ra has nothing to do with Satan. The Egyptians were the true ascended masters before ANY religion came about. There was NO Christianity back then. The Romans used Christianity to control the m*****ess. The Greeks before them studied from the Egyptians..
@KocaKola
“The concept that we are all Gods and there is no sin came from Satan himself. The whole reason Satan was kicked out of heaven was his arrogance and pride that pumped him up to believe that he was equal to or greater than God. He was the smartest and most beautiful angel and because of this he became arrogant and haughty.”
Now this is true.
@Kola
We are God and God is We.
@Alrighty Then
Oh my I thought KocaKola explained it well.
As Christians we are to praise God, not think that we are God himself. God created the universe, can Jay Z or Oprah create the univers. NO.
By convincing yourself that you can actually become or are God, you are following Satan and that is the same as worshipping Satan.
I jus wanna know if I listen to their music am I going to hell??????????????
All this ***** go back to egyptology thats why I don’t know why that dumb ***** delta talking about they are gonna sue hov she better try to sue cleopatra.
@ Tony
I won’t argue with you because I wasn’t there. But God says that there are no Gods except him. So when the fallen angels/demons came to earth the ancient world mistook them for Gods. So this Ra character could have been Satan or some other fallen angel. But what I do know is that they were not Gods and the only beings hungry for worship as God is Satan and his demons so either way this entity is demonic. BTW I am not christian I am a child of God..the God of abraham, moses, noah. Christianity and all religions are Manmade.
@ what the hell
LOL, I think Pac summed it up best, we too stupid to know we all ready in hell
@ What the Hell
Only God can judge you.
Rona
@Alrighty Then
Oh my I thought KocaKola explained it well.
As Christians we are to praise God, not think that we are God himself. God created the universe, can Jay Z or Oprah create the univers. NO.
By convincing yourself that you can actually become or are God, you are following Satan and that is the same as worshipping Satan.
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@Rona
lol, aint *****ody bringin up Satan but yall. If it is true that Oprah and Jay beleive they are God’s, it simply means to me that they beleive they are in complete control of their destiny, which a lot of Christian followers dont believe. You dont know how many times Ive heard from a Christian blame it on the Devil” or “Leave It up to God” and they are still in the same position they are in 10 years from now.
If God created the universe, why is Astrology and Numerology shunned upon in the Christian community as a tool to guide one’s self?
@RONA -
Rona
@Alrighty Then
Oh my I thought KocaKola explained it well.
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she did, but there is still no proof tying it all together. I’m sorry, but I’m not buying it.
I don’t know and can’t speak for what anyone else believes, but I can’t be swayed from my beliefs because Jay-Z, Barack, or anyone else says it is so. I believe in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Anything else, is straight poppy*****, IMO. I will be sitting back like “damn, they on some OTHER *****”, but I’m not going to follow them because of who they are. I just don’t understand the ultimate purpose of this so-called “new age/cult/devil-worship” crap as it relates to consumers of the music. Can you explain that?
@KocaKola
I’m confused, so you don’t belive in Jesus?
Jesus never declared a denomination…he never says I am catholic…I am baptist…I am christian. He introduced himself as the “son of God”. Religion is manmade and therefore dangerous to lead people astray because it is full of flaws and separates God’s children.
@Ko*****ola what is the purpose of the NWO new world order.
KocaKola
@ Tony
I won’t argue with you because I wasn’t there. But God says that there are no Gods except him. So when the fallen angels/demons came to earth the ancient world mistook them for Gods. So this Ra character could have been Satan or some other fallen angel. But what I do know is that they were not Gods and the only beings hungry for worship as God is Satan and his demons so either way this entity is demonic. BTW I am not christian I am a child of God..the God of abraham, moses, noah. Christianity and all religions are Manmade.
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The same rhotoric you are speaking is from a man-made Bible. First King James version then the New Testament. You mean they couldnt get it right the first time?..lol..The world NEVER ended. If it did, does the Bible explain how it was made…again? If the Bible has the answers, then how were the pyramids built? Why do Christian worship on a SUNday (Ra-Sun God). Why do some religions worship on a SATURNday…This is an example of how mordern day Christianity is a convluted spin off of Egyptology…
My point is WE have the power to ascend just like the Egyptian masters, Jesus etc. However it is only up to us to beleive. God is not external, Its within. The Devil is only real in your mind because you give it/him/she the time of day…
@ Jason
“Yes I believe in Jesus”, if it weren’t for him God would have never given us a chance to eat from the Tree of Life. Because Jesus humbled himself to the conditions of man (going from spirit to physical) God gives us his favor because his son was once one of us and gave his life to pay for our sins.
KocaKola
Jesus never declared a denomination…he never says I am catholic…I am baptist…I am christian. He introduced himself as the “son of God”. Religion is manmade and therefore dangerous to lead people astray because it is full of flaws and separates God’s children.
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Yet you sound religious…
@ Keri
The whole purpose of the NWO is to bring the antichrist to power. Satan is greedy he doesn’t want to rule a nation he wants the world.
@ Keri
After he is brought to power the Antichrist will *****emble all the armies of the world to fight agaisnt Jesus’s second coming. Because he knows when Jesus comes his reign is finished.
@ Tony
Religion is defined as a faith in a higher power…wether it be Buddah, Ra, or any other so called God.
I do not have faith in a higher power I have faith in the one and only true God.
@ Tony
Most *****ume the pyramids were built by the Anninaki
@BEE & Alrighty
CHUUUUCH!!!!
Crab mentality runs rampant in our community.
Homeboy is very generous in his contributions to charity, but is very careful about exposing all of it….similar to the criticism that Tiger Woods & Michael Jordan have faced in past. (Well, Tiger might need to be drop-squaded, tho…lol)
The appropriate argument would be that he should publicize and promote those positives as much as an album release. I definitely agree, but it’s his prerogative and really, who cares? He’s an entertainer!
I listen to Jay cuz I can relate to what he’s rapping about(not the drug selling) and I can’t stomach some of this coonery that’s out now disguised as rapping.
I don’t agree with everything dude does or says, but any opposition to a point he makes doesn’t automatically cl*****ify him as a devil worshipper. Somebody referenced him mushing this chick on a video…do the research! Her name is Carleen and she worked for him, was/is his homegirl. Now, I’m not saying that makes it ok. Matter of fact, if it was my sister, there would be a different headline in the paper the next day. But the point is, if someone followed y’all around w/a camera all day, every day, I’m sure we’d see some unflattering things.
He’s a regular dude who happens to have a knack for saying slick ish while making the words rhyme and if you live your life ‘gl***** half full’ and take things for what they are, you can still find positives or even a lesson or two without being “hood winked, run amuck or lead astray”.
How about if you like the music, listen. If you don’t, change the station…
@ Tony
Jesus never once a day in his life proclaims he is a ascended master. He was resurrected by God if you read revelations it already says “Satan fools the whole world”. Next question how…just re read some of your comments.
KocaKola
@ Tony
Religion is defined as a faith in a higher power…wether it be Buddah, Ra, or any other so called God.
I do not have faith in a higher power I have faith in the one and only true God.
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You dont make sense…
You do not have faith in a higher power yet you beleive in God?
@KocaKola
Thanks for the explanation. So do all Christians believe in the trinity. ie. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons in one Godhead
KocaKola
@ Tony
Jesus never once a day in his life proclaims he is a ascended master. He was resurrected by God if you read revelations it already says “Satan fools the whole world”. Next question how…just re read some of your comments.
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If Jesus never ascended how could he proclaim himself as God’s Son? How did he have such divine knowledge?
OMG, everyone one who isn’t blind knows Jay-Z worship satan so I refuse to argue. We will all be there on judgment day when he and his followers( along with satan and his minions) are cast into the lake of fire..Until then people who are NOT blinded keep spreading the truth. Goodbye
Those that believe Jay is a devil worshipper spend too much damn time on the internet. Worse than cult leaders, bible thumpers, and followers …go due something productive.
@ Tony
“Christianity is a convluted spin off of Egyptology…”
This may be true but Jesus never said he was Christian. Christianity evolved from the teachings of Jesus many years after his death. They are related but not the same. Christians to me are just people who take their faith from the bible. But the true children of God do his will and keep his commandments.,,related but not the same. Everyone says they are christians but few can say they are children of God.
@kola
I gotta go..
Ill be back later if you answer..
@ asia
Too bad you leavin’…you might’ve convinced with the “everyone who isn’t blind” line…coonery @ its finest…LOL
@ Tony
He never ascended…he was RESURRECTED. To ascend is on your own accord. But to be resurrected is only done through the will of God.
Where in the bible does is ever mention Jesus ascending?- Rhetorical question because it doesn’t. That lie comes from the father of all lies Satan himself.
@ tony
Bye..! nice discussion.
@KocaKola
On a serious note, a lot of what you type reads profound, yet the posts are full of contradictions….what are you basing these statements on?
@KocaKola
You say that you have seperate ideology of Christinity yet you sound like one…
Jesus never said he was Christian yet Christians, Catholics, and Baptists study the Bible, and your posts regarding “Satan” come directly from the Bible..
Aight Ill be back…
@ Jason
I am not christian and you pointed out one of the main reasons I am not.
The trinity is a manmade concept. It is never mentioned in the bible you will only learn it in certain churches who add their own flavor to the bible. This is why religion is flawed…too many add ons and not the pure word of God.
@ Pimp or Die
Bible/ Holy Spirit which speaks to you if you are a true child of God. God’s spirit speaks to me daily.
@KocaKola
He never ascended…he was RESURRECTED. To ascend is on your own accord. But to be resurrected is only done through the will of God.
Where in the bible does is ever mention Jesus ascending?- Rhetorical question
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John 20:17
@ Tony
I sound like a christian because we worship the same God. But I try to strictly follow the bible and most Christians do not. They follow some things and not others. This to me is being fake or lukewarm so I choose not to *****ociate with them. Jesus says he is the only way and his way was not named christianity.
@ Pimp
No his rising/ascending into the clouds was named the RESSURECTION. Putting your on spin on scripture will only keep you from the true God.
A bird can ascend into the air but to be ressurected means you were brought alive from the dead.
@KocaKola
Where did you get your bible and what’s going on with your holy spirit?
I’m just saying, your statements are so wildly off the mark that it really begs those questions. The entire book of John speaks in very specific language about His ascension into Heaven, as well as the Trinity.
Is this Jay-Z…trying to get us to worship the devil again??? You so crazy!
Boy, Stop!!!
I am a proud member of Delta Sigma Theta, Inc. We do not throw up the diamond symbol, as Jay-Z. We are known for the Pyramid=Delta, pinkies in!
Why can’t you be resurrected and then proceed to ASCEND into Heaven????
Since your bible appears to be broken and you don’t believe me, I’ll let Jesus tell you…
John 20:17
Jesus said unto her, “TOUCH ME NOT; FOR I AM NOT YET ASCENDED TO MY FATHER: BUT GO TO MY BRETHREN, AND SAY UNTO THEM, I ASCEND UNTO MY FATHER, AND YOUR FATHER; AND TO MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD.”
Maybe you should try the King James version instead of the Lebron James version…
the only proof I can offer you on the whole Jay Z thing is, when he spoke of the making of his latest video he had on a sweat shirt that had a statement written across the front. Read that statement and then research a guy by the name of Aleister Crowley.
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@thepromised1
Alright cousin, you got my attention…
FINALLY somebody who can present their point of view WITHOUT using YouTube as their main source of information…
So Fam, if you will go ahead an explain to me/us how and what does Bubba Lip Shawn/Jay-Z do that proves without a shadow of a doubt that he is a devil worshipper – I’m all ears and am seriously interested in hearing what you have to say with respects to this since you’ve done your research…
Oh yeah, what is that saying on Jay-Z sweatshirt that you’re talking about = “Billionaire’s Boys Club”, Cousin that’s something that Nigo (Japanese Fashion Designer) and Pharrell came up with…
The triangle is used more often then you think. Delta Sorority uses it, some non denominational church’s use it, satin worshippers use it. Everybody uses it so there is nothing original about this symbol or what it stands for. Get over it.
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With all due respect, the Delta Sigma Theta Sorority hand symbol is not a triangle, but a pyramid, with the thumbs forming a horizontal line.
The diamond hand symbol, *****ociated with Jay-Z forms a “V” with the thumbs.
Maybe you should try the King James version instead of the Lebron James version…
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DEAD! Lol!!
all these guys lie in interviews anyway. They always say things that black ppl who have followed them for years know are not true. Bojangles started it. LL made up that he was freestyling on Oprah and Jay-Z does it too.
@Slide-I know you haven’t asked me, but I’d recommend you begin your own studying, because once again the conversation has gone LEFT (truths, mixed with theories and supposition)
That is the current problem with listening to someone else’s perspective without the benefit of supporting resources AND the reason the NWO is still operating successfully so covertly.
Jay Z/Oprah/POTUS =NOT a Satan Worshippers
@thepromise, the sweatshirt being referred to is the one that says “do as thou wilt”. This is a quote from a known satanist. Alister Crowley is the satanist’s name. So why is Jay wearing this sweatshirt? Listen, all you people that wish to down the internet and youtube, where do you get your info from? What superior source of information are you using to debunk the fact that Jay is a Mason (he says it and plays it off in the second verse of “run this town”) Why are all of his proteges on some black ***** all the time? Black clothes all over the place? There is information out there but if you wish to remain in the dark and not examine any evidence, just say you don’t care, or you don’t like to do research. Other than that, shut your dumb *****es the ***** up. People who say that Jay is on some devil ***** have done their research. Have you?
@real talk
The sweatshirt I have on right now says, A Bathing Ape. So by applying your theory, I……damn, I better go change my sweatshirt…
COONERY @ its finest! LOL
This ish is better than watching a show on the old WB!
@Real Talk
We have been having a respectful, informative, conversation all day (w/resources) so i suggest you read the earlier posts from today around noon, and don’t *****ume that others have NOT done their homework.
Many of the things I’ve heard to day are derivatives or components of The Complete Truth. The danger of relying on components, pockets or derivatives of truth mixed with emotion, religion and supposition, is that decisions made without complete information is MORE dangerous than ignorance.
Peace
i am so glad the deltas on here have reminded everyone on here that jay-z is not doing their sign. he is doing a diamond sign with thumbs going down to make a diamond. never realize the eye thing until today. he may want to show his wife how to do it correctly. she keeps doing the delta sign. maybe she wants to an honorary member.
@Pimp or Die
*dead* @ coonery LOL
That is sooooo stereotypical. I’m sorry I’m actually fair skin, not all Deltas are dark skin. How ignorant. And by that statement alone I know u indeed r the devil. So I’m not talking to u anymore.
I’d recommend you begin your own studying
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@Renee
I’d recommend that you be quiet, I didn’t ask you your opinion on the matter… You can give it and by all means do but don’t offer me simple minded advice – Thank You
@ Slide
So suggesting you use your own brain by doing research instead of relying on the intellect of others translates as simple-minded advice? I think that means YOU have a simple mind and are not interested in engaging in higher level forms of thinking or conversing…
The other thing, at NO point have I been rude to you so I’ll suggest that you dish out the same respect that you’d like to receive.
Love Ya…
Hmmmmmm………….
@ Slide
TRUST-If I choose to-I can also be “DAT *****”
@ Slide
the sweat shirt says “Do what thou wilt” a phrase stated by Crowley who is a satanist, and believes in the whole thing about freeing your mind and being independent, that’s from what I read about him.
If I choose to-I can also be “DAT *****”
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@Renee
Be “DAT B*TCH” then… Like I care, I wasn’t talking to you in the FIRST place and so why don’t you mind your OWN BUSINESS!!!
I don’t no need simple a$$ advice or suggestions telling me to read a book on the subject matter… DUHHHHH!!!
I simply asked the homie to expound upon their viewpoint that’s all – Isn’t that what people do on blogs = express their opinions, I simply wanted that individual to do that…
What you said to me added ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the conversation… And WHY does that even need to be said? SERIOUSLY, please think about that…
You gave me a recommendation and I gave you one too…
Tupac, Ice Cube, Rakim, Scarface, A Tribe Called Qwest would drop jewels for the youth. I can’t name one rapper out now that has a message that will stand the test of time……
Honorary? Brothers of the Krimson and Kream are the only ones who shoot the correct Diamond.
Phi Nu Pi
@ Slide
You’ve just PROVEN just how simple you are..
PEACE~
@Dmarie
Oh Ok, thank you Beautiful
yeah someone pointed that out… Do you by any chance know when he wore that shirt and how do y’all all know about it… Nevermind YouTube… SMH
And so when “Bubba Lip Shawn” wore that “Che Guevara” t-shirt a while back on that MTV Unplugged Show – you mean to tell me that there was a secret message behind that too… Was that a nod to Fidel Castro and him saying thanks for all of the *****e that he got to the U.S that he sold back in the day???
My point is, some of y’all run read TOO MUCH into things sometimes… Has it ever crossed y’alls mind that his stylist picked it out, ironed it and he just threw it on because it went with his outfit… Seriously? Sheesh
@Bozak
What up, Phi?
Tell ‘em ’bout it, Yo….ain’t no such thing as an ‘honorary’ Nupe!
@Renee
No problem and thanks for your dumb advice…
So now you know that if you plan on butting in one of MY conversations if what you have to say offers little or NOTHING to what me & whoever are talking about = shut up!!!
- PEACE
@ Slide
o ok now I’m beautiful lol
but yeah I see where you are coming from but it’s just to much of a coincidence for him to wear that shirt for his interview of run this town who has a lot of occult connections to it. What’s crazy is a lot of rock stars are influenced but Crowley especially Marolyn mason, so come on you know Jay has heard about That phrase, because he is surrounded by entertainers. That’s just the way I see, You may say I may be reading too much into it but honestly I think a lot of people are going into it enough
My Bad for bad spelling and typos
@Slide
Stop talking to me with your **********..
How about I let Meagan read the simple, short-tempered, easily and erroneously offended, poorly conceived, misinterpreted, after 7 pm I pick on girls like a *****, ***** you wrote?
Which would be so disappointing considering the fact that you and I agree on the merits of this subject and I WAS impressed with your earlier thoughts..
@slide
Damn Son, that’s like the most cogent argument against all this bs ever.
Cats are really giving dude too much credit…he and entertainers on his level, more often than not have someone styling them. Dude probably looked at the saying and was like, “That’s a cool ***** statement…now somebody do my nails and bring me some lemonade”.
I’m a pretty well-educated dude, if I may modestly say so & I didn’t know anything about ‘ol satanic statement guy until this ish came up. I feel sufficiently enlightened, thank you boogeymen & women.
But while I’m always of the mind that you can never stop learning and you can learn something from anyone, anywhere, everything I learn doesn’t have a direct impact on my life. I don’t care what he believes in, I care who I believe in.
How many of y’all listened to and still get down to the sultry sounds of Luther Vandross? By all accounts, son was gay. I have an aunt who worked closely with him and that deads any talk about speculation for me…its the truth. Given the conspiracy theorists logic, if you don’t agree w/homosexuality then you should destroy all your Luther cds. Damn, just typing that made me feel stupid.
Who gives a ish what that statement means? Did Jay adlib it into the lyrics of “Show Me What You Got” at the last concert? Even if he did, I might still be rocking to it….doesn’t mean I worship or even believe in it…its ENTERTAINMENT!!!
How about I let Meagan read
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@Renee
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA…. YOU KNOW MEAGAN = OH SH*T!!!
Hey, don’t show Meagan this…
Alright, I apologize and I am sincerely sorry
@Dmarie
Cutie Pie, did you see what I wrote to you at 3:46???
Well anyways, follow the advice that ‘thepromised1′ wrote to me so you can have a stronger argument and be more persuasive next time around my Dear:
“if you don’t read historical information and research to understand the full design of everything around you to a degree you can explain it with insight beyond its face value, then there’s no point in bringing it up. Your opponents will use your ignorance and unknowing to dismantle your argument and have you doubting yourself”.
@Slide
ROFLOL
That’s better-Apology Graciously Accepted
NOW-Stop instigating Black on Black crime (makin a sista wanna kick you in the shin-hmpf)
It’s all good….
man dont *****ody give a ***** about grandaddy camel..i meant grandaddy joe…hehe…est88
@Renee
Gorgeous, honestly what had happened was that I interpreted what you said to me as talking down to me… I don’t know, it just rubbed me the wrong way, maybe I just read it wrong… But that’s not important… Forget it, we were going back and forth over nonsense anyways to be honest with you…
You know what’s funny, I actually do jot down the names of these books that are brought up whenever some of the more informed people throw them out there or when they are mentioned…
Tell Meagan that I want her to stop them damn lacefronts and get a nice weave or something… My girls hairline/forehead is starting to looked jacked up – but my love for her is still strong… SMH @ myself
@Pimp or Die
(1) he and entertainers on his level, more often than not have someone styling them.
Celebrity Stylist make well over six figures and the celebrity I worked for had one… They don’t have time to shop and plus they wear A LOT of outfits, etc… How I explained it, is probably what happened in my best guess = he saw it and it went with his outfit and it’s as simple as that = as opposed to some big making a statement to the other devil worshippers…
(2) I’m always of the mind that you can never stop learning and you can learn something from anyone, anywhere, everything I learn doesn’t have a direct impact on my life
I’m the same way too and that’s why I like blogs… You get to hear different points of views on things from a whole bunch of different people… But on here you have to weed through a lot of the comments
(3) I don’t care what he believes in, I care who I believe in.
Me too, I just like how he rhymes over beats, it ain’t all that deep to me… Once I hear some stuff that’s really straight forward and unmistakably on some you should worship the devil then I’ll stop listening to him, but until then no… And you can catch all of these people at the club and if you hop in their car it’s on the station that plays all of the people that they alledge are devil worshippers… SMH
@Slide
Actually, after backtracking and reading some of the earlier posts, it’s obvious that I wasn’t clear, so an apology from me is in order. I was afraid you’d get hung up in some of the OTHER coonery and ridiculousness thrown out. You and Promise1, are the 2 people I agree with. Lawd, brilliant and informed black men make my heart smile.
Meagan will blush when she finds out how much you obviously love her…I WILL deliver the message.
SMH @ me too!
GOODNIGHT FAMILY and keep it 100……
@ Renee
You and Promise1, are the 2 people I agree with. Lawd, brilliant and informed black men make my heart smile.
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*LOUDLY clears his brilliant and informed, black ***** throat*
“AHEM!”
@ Pimp
cc: Slide and Promise1
& Pimp!!!
Ohh Emm Gee! Please forgive me honey, definitely you PIMP*pretty girl curtsy*
MUAH-LOL!
Muah~
@KOCAKOLA
“Jesus never declared a denomination…he never says I am catholic…I am baptist…I am christian. He introduced himself as the “son of God”. Religion is manmade and therefore dangerous to lead people astray because it is full of flaws and separates God’s children.”
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PREACH IT GIRL. I feel you mama, I be trying to tell ppl about so called “religions are not of God.” I honestly was always skeptical of Jay but im not God, so ima leave him alone.
At the end of the day the experts don’t know whats up. It’s an arguements among them. This gives everyone a chance to reflect on their own life and determine who’s side you are on when it all goes down. It is appearent Time is running out.
I am glad the Delta’s put Beyonce in check. Hope she gets the message. THUMBS DOWN get it right you are disrespecting the Delta’s on that follow the leader *****!!!
why are the kappas talking about honorary members? that is not what i said. i know kappas do not do honorary. married to one. i said beyonce needs to stop doing the delta sign. i know she doesn’t know any better. does she even have a GED?
beyonce would look better throwing a pinkie in the air.
HOW IS IT YOU *****ES KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT DEVIL WORSHIPPING?
WHEN YOU ARE WORTH A BILLIE.. YOU NEED NO GED
God says MY people die because of ignorance anyone who isnt of God is worshipping the devil ……..
God says “do not worship an other God before me” what does that mean?? it means that you recognize the oneness of God, and you don’t put anything equal to him, or any partner either, if it is worshiping idols,the sun, moon, stars, HUMAN BEINGS, or believing in good lucks materials, etc…like nothing look like him, or equal to him.
When someone say God has a son, or three in 1 (like the concept of the trinity)then the person don’t believe in 1 God, but 3 Gods in 1, so basically that person is committing polytheism(meaning believing in more than 1), and polytheism is something that God will never forgive a person who dies in that state, and shall abide in hell forever.
jay-z may worship the Devil, maybe he does not (i don’t have real evidences on it, unless he confesses), but to be honest he is not worse than those who claim that God has begotten a son, or they thank, or praise Jesus(s.a.w) instead of God, because it is a blasphemy, and the worst thing that one can utter out of their mouths.
Jesus(s.a.w) never claim the creation of all things, nor things that happen to you in your life…He only claimed to be a prophet, a messenger, and messiah, and messiah does not mean son of God.
I hope i didn’t hurt some feelings That is not my intention.
Yall *****s are HILARIOUS…Does he worship Satan…Does he worship God…Dude could worship a pig’s *****hole, it’s got nothing to do with you….Loosers…
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@ CiCI
PLZ learn how to spell words like retarded before calling other people stupid. Just a suggestion.
Fucca jay z….Stevie Wonder 4 Prez!!!!!!!!
Devil Worshpier!!! NEXT~~~>