For Discussion: Guess Which One Is 2009-2010 Miss Hampton University

Posted on October 12th, 2009 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Barack Obama, Bolitics, For Discussion, News

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Miss Hampton University is a white girl this year and she has been getting scrutinized to no end. Nikole Churchill wrote a letter to President Obama about her plight:

Subject:
Hampton University

To:
President Barack Obama

October 11, 2009

Aloha Mr. Obama!

My name is Nikole Churchill, a senior nursing major at Hampton University. This past Friday October 9, 2009, I was honored to be crowned Miss Hampton University 2009-2010. It truly was the best night of my life! With that being said, I am sad to say…… that my crowning was not widely accepted and many negative comments regarding my win have been shared throughout my campus.

It would be much easier to say that possibly some were not accepting of the news because I wasn’t the most qualified contestant; however, the true reason for the disapproval was because of the color of my skin. I am not African-American. Despite the unfortunate beliefs that some are saying I should not have won, I am desperately trying to focus on those who believe in me and support me and my goal to represent this beautiful, multicultural campus the very best way that I can. I would love your help!

I am hoping that perhaps you would be able to make an appearance to my campus, Hampton University, so that my fellow Hamptonians can stop focusing so much on the color of my skin and doubting my abilities to represent, but rather be proud of the changes our nation is making towards accepting diversity. People are even nicknaming me, “lil Obama” because of various reasons. This is truly an honor as well!

I am also from Hawaii (Wahiawa) and I am hoping that you can assist me in opening some closed minds and help share some aloha spirit throughout my campus. I feel as though you could relate to my situation, which is why I immediately wanted to contact you. I was interviewed last night at the HU vs. HU football game by news channel 13 and I mentioned how individuals such as you and myself are making changes in hopes people can stop placing so much focus on our skin color by letting that define what we can, cannot, should, and/or should not do. Dr. Harvey welcomed me last night to the family with open arms and I was beyond honored when he told me that he is behind me 100%. I am proud to represent Hampton University and I am so proud having you to represent our home, our country. Your support with my crowning as Miss Hampton University 2009-2010 would be graciously appreciated. Please reply, I will be looking forward to it!

-Nikole Churchill

Virginia Beach , VA

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  • I AM LEGEND (A Wise Man Told Mont Argue With Fools)

    ok

  • http://shannoncason.com E's

    Congratulations to her.

  • YOUNG’N

    WHO CARES WHY IS THIS NEWS…..OH CUZ SHE WROTE TO OBAMA GTFOH

  • E$

    Congrats to her. She is welcomed @ the school, but can’t be Miss Hampton? Are they ashamed to have a white girl @ the school?

  • Jade Silver

    LOL @ ‘Lil Obama’

  • Superwoman

    Racist idiots!! Who cares what color the girl is and who cares about this? This is not news. This is stupid! Now, this chick is just trying to be an attention hog. She should have wrote Oprah. Tyra would have definitely tackled these irrelevant topic!

  • Redd

    This is what we would call reverse racism. I wish her the best. And I hope President O will respond!

  • Jason Taylor

    That’s messed up considering that you was voted by students at Hampton. So what’s the damn problem. Va must be full of haters

  • Mrs. Rance

    Why should the President make an appearance at her school? Wouldn’t that be rewarding the racists? Later for them. If her tuition is good enough for Hampton she deserves to wear the crown as much as anyone else.

  • http://none BigBody

    glad she won. someone must have thought it was ok. Stop hating, and step your VOTE game up, next time.

  • bobby

    @ Sydney

    Maybe she wrote to Obama because he also grew up in Hawaii and has a diverse background. But I agree with you in that I don’t know what exactly she’s trying to accomplish.

  • lt

    Clearly, that is who the judges decided to win. Some african-americans need to wake up. If caucasians chooose to go to a mostly african-american college shouldn’t they be allowed to participate in activities they are interested in?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @bobby

    “But I agree with you in that I don’t know what exactly she’s trying to accomplish.”

    Well, that’s my point. What is she trying to accomplish? Drama!

    And, ironically, I met a fellow Hamptonian this weekend in D.C., and we talked about homecoming. It certainly will be interesting this year, lol. Very, very interesting, indeed.

  • Angee

    Yes, Hampton University is traditionally African-American, but if she won, then she won.

    Morning Sydney :-)

  • bobby

    Honestly she was a little gullible if she thought that being white and winning Miss Hampton University wasn’t going to cause controversy. It’s an HBCU for cryin out loud.

  • ridin so high i can slap down a pigeon

    damn its some hating going on at Hampton…lmao…good for the white girl

  • JB

    HEy Syd!! I didn’t know you went to HU. So did Lady A. Me however I am a Spartan!! Behold the Green and Gold!! We play you guys next week for our Homecoming.

  • Mr. Big Mack Ronald Mcdonald (Im Luvin It)

    Howard University is the real HU anyway!!!

  • REality

    She is beautiful,

    It shouldn’t matter, if the student majority voted for her, then it’s the choice of the people. We must not sink down to the level of prejudice white folks. If the shoe was on the other foot we would be screaming “NAACP”. Let’s just look at this from a strategic point of view, the more diverse community we have in HSBC, the more accepted individuals feel and funding we will have.

    Remember a lot of cultures really envy us “BLACK” people, so let’s welcome them. A lot of their parents/grandparents have money to donate to their school just because their kids are going there. Example look at schools like “Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Harvard, Columbia, and Yale for instance. It’s all a tradition and money game.
    No one can ever take the fact that Hampton is a HBC so let’s just share the “Black Experience”, with others. Her gain will be a total gain for the community and our children.

  • lollipoplollipopohlolliloollipop

    ok.she won.give it up for her.

    she must be doing something right if she won.she’s got to learn that u cant win with out losing bc theres ppl that voted for u,but theres obviously ppl that voted against u.

    i do think writing to obama was a bit drastic n will give her even more scrutiny.

  • Anita Faker

    But DOESN’T the STUDENTS vote for Miss Hampton? WTFE she just wants some attention.

    She knew there would be SOME type of back lash at an HBCU. She ran for the shit. Take your win and keep moving and fulfill your duties.

    I personally wouldn’t want a white chick repping my school if it was an HBCU.

    THERE I SAID IT!
    HBCU for life!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hey Angee, JB.

    I just told my friend — a fellow Hampton grad — and she’s in shock as well. She keeps asking, “how did this happen?”

    I didn’t even know that HU has a campus in Va. Beach. I’m really confused right now.

  • HO SIT DOWN!!!

    Who give a rats a** about this beauty pageant anyway!?!?!? with that said…

    I just would like to know what qualified her over the other women? I think alot of yall who think that this is just black people ( more so black women) hating dont realize that this is about C>R>E>A>M get the money! all hbcu’s are SELLING OUT cuz they are in debt, and what better way to get OUT OF DEBT than to make the face of the school a lil’ more “diverse”?!?! this is all about POLITICS people!!!

  • as seen on t.v.

    Wear your crown with pride and keep it moving…

  • Bishoujo

    She wrote to the president just because folks are hating? For real? Wait, let me write to the president too…some chick at the salon was looking at me sideways. LOL

  • Angee

    @Sydney

    This is not something I would have expected either. I wonder if she will be in Ebony, for that annual issue that they do for college queens.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    WHAT’S UP SYD??? Long time no hear from.

    I will say this regarding the subject, mostly black women had to vote for her to win. What does that say about them? SMH.

  • MochaDreams

    I mean, hey… if she is a student at Hampton, then it’s free game. We definitely wouldn’t say “Ho, sit down!” to a young Black girl being Homecoming Queen at say Penn State, so leave that girl alone.

  • philly

    If it was a white boy the sisters would be having a parade.

  • Last of a dying breed

    Take no title without consequence…this is real life.

    Yes, Pinky in the dress is the best on the display.

  • Last of a dying breed

    @Philly

    lol…maybe so…

  • shavondenise

    VA STAND-UP!!! She should have went to NSU (Norfolk State University) because the green and gold would have welcomed her with open arms!! Them Hampton chicks act like their so much sophisticated but they represent the inner hatred and prejudice that most middle to upper class African Americans have period!! Thats the biggest problem. They spend their whole time tryna “pass” and be what society tells them is acceptable but when one of them loses to a non-Black in just a meaningless competition they wanna cry. WACK!!!

  • JB

    @ Syd

    Yeah, the Va Beach Campus is part of the higher Learning thing they got going on out here. It is just an extension of the campus so us folks on this side don’t have to go across the bridge all the time.

  • I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    @ Sydney

    I think she wrote to him because being that he is considered the first black president, she is almost sure he is experiencing racism (as he is, hence the whole Nobel Peace Prize thread yesterday) and he is also from her native land. Maybe she just wanted to open his eyes. I for one would not have heard about this if not posted, so maybe she is opening more than just his eyes. I am with the people that say if her tuition is good enough for HU then she is eligible to participate in all opportunities, unless of course she is on academic probation, which I doubt or else she would not have been able to participate.

  • JB

    @ Shavondenise

    yeah for NSU!!!!

  • JB

    But this is funny because she is not the first non-black to be voted for homecoming queen at an HBCU.

  • Enjoy8224

    I live in Hampton, Hampton University is not in VA beach, and Hampton University won that night too, :) . In reference to this chick’s letter. It really wasn’t necessary. Matter of fact, it shouldn’t have came as a surprise to her. I’m sure she received some of the same comments when she initially entered the school doors. Congratulations on the win, but no sympathy here

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Angee

    “This is not something I would have expected either. I wonder if she will be in Ebony, for that annual issue that they do for college queens.”

    She’s representing Hampton, so, yes, she will be included.

    @Man

    Hey, what’s up? Yeah, I have the holiday off.

    I don’t know what it says about them. It’s just very strange. I remember when colorism was a part of the naming of Miss Hampton (the paper bag test goes back for years) — many thought that only sisters of a certain hue had a chance at winning the title. My, how things change.

  • WHATEVA

    It’s sad that her moment was ruined by haters but I don’t think this is a situation Obama has time for. Sure he can speak on it but to go down and appear, ummm not gonna happen

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    I think she is pretty if that even matters…

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SYDNEY
    “I don’t know what it says about them. It’s just very strange. I remember when colorism was a part of the naming of Miss Hampton (the paper bag test goes back for years) — many thought that only sisters of a certain hue had a chance at winning the title. My, how things change.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    Well, she passes the paper bag test.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @I’m Just Me

    The president identifies himself as black, and he is experiencing real racism.

    This person sounds like someone who’s mad that she’s getting some backlash, and she decided to bring national attention to this matter. As I said before, it’s drama, it’s unnecessary, and it is unwelcome.

    If the letters and e-mails haven’t already started pouring into President Harvey’s office, they soon will.

  • dumbish

    if you look at a lot of the women who attended Hampton pre 1990, some of them match up to her complexion. Homecoming people will just think her granny kept her out of the sun…

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    Thanks, this is the first I’ve heard of the Va. Beach campus. I lived on campus all four years. This is news to me.

    @Man

    Yeah, she passes the paper bag test hands down.

  • beyonce woman of the year

    you think that he answered her letter,
    and what did he say,
    i mean white folks experience racism as well as black people, you have people out here that hate white just as much as they hate black
    whites have a right too you know

  • HUalum

    I too am a Hampton Alum and to answer some poster’s questions, NO the student body does NOT vote on Miss HU, she is selected by a panel of judges.

  • Mr. K

    I attended a HBCU and I can tell you that the beauty pagaents are voted on by the student body. At least that’s how they did it at my school. Here peers voted for her. Why are people hating?!!!

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    ok I have to comment since I’m a HAmpton Alumni…I was in shock as well and simply said well obviously the students voted for her, but that’s not the case. The students were not the ones who voted, there was a committee that voted which is why so many students were upset because they believed this was a publicity stunt by the president of Hampton U to get more big funding for the school. SMH@the letter though

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “whites have a right too you know”

    Whites have always had rights — It’s called “white privilege.”

    There’s a reason why HBCUs were founded to begin with.

  • Plain Jane

    I’m glad that she won; however, I can’t help but wonder if this is a ploy for attention, considering it was Hampton students who voted for her to win, right? Whatever the case, she needs to focus on her win and her supporters, and leave Obama to deal with more important issues. People face racism everyday (black, white, latino, etc.; her plight is no more important than anyone else’s. I would say to her “that’s life, dust the dirt off your shoulders and keep it moving”.

  • HO SIT DOWN!!!

    she CLEARLY HAS AN HBCU EDUCATION CUZ SHE CANT WRITE FOR SH*T!!!

    AND WHO IS “MR. OBAMA”?
    last i checked he was the PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    just like i said : ho … sit down.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Lady A

    “there was a committee that voted which is why so many students were upset because they believed this was a publicity stunt by the president of Hampton U to get more big funding for the school.”

    So that’s what happened?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @HUalum

    Who’s on this panel?

  • Plain Jane

    @Lady Architect- I stand corrected on my “Hampton students voted for her” point. At any rate, I think she’s still (and possibly the school as well) using this as an opportunity for attention and as you’ve said, more funding. SMH @the whole thing.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Sydney,
    Yes the students do not vote…That’s why they were so upset…I didn’t go to the pageant thing, but from what I heard as far as credentials it should’ve been an easy win for one of the other girls…All the students were shocked like WTF. Sorry but the President has been known to sell the school out for the longest now..that’s why Alumni don’t send money as much as they use to.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Plain Jane,
    I agree with you…

  • HO SIT DOWN!!!

    @ lady a
    @plain jane
    @sydney

    Thats what I just said. and i dont even go to school there. its so OBVIOUS that this is about money.

  • http://www.exclusivemarketing.biz Barry

    Why would they vote a white woman queen of a black campus? Why do we always feel the need to bend over backwards for our oppressor? She should NOT have won. It’s a Black campus with mostly black students, the winner should represent this.

  • JB

    Lady A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @LADY ARCHITECT
    “ok I have to comment since I’m a HAmpton Alumni…I was in shock as well and simply said well obviously the students voted for her, but that’s not the case. The students were not the ones who voted, there was a committee that voted which is why so many students were upset because they believed this was a publicity stunt by the president of Hampton U to get more big funding for the school. SMH@the letter though”
    ___________________________________________________________

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

    That makes a LOT of sense. I remember under the Bush Administration aka “The Dark Ages” HBCU’s weren’t even classified under Education. SMH.

    I think the University is trying to navigate AWAY from being an HBCU and this is the beginning step.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    If this student is on a satellite campus in Va. Beach, how much has she actually intermingled with other students on campus?

    @Lady A

    My father didn’t like Harvey — My parents came for Parents Weekend, and my dad said Harvey acted as if he were on a “throne.” I see he’s still the same — it doesn’t surprise me that alumni aren’t donating as much.

    No wonder the students are upset if they didn’t even have a say in who would represent them. This is shameful, it really is.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    i’m interested in seeing what Ebony mag and all the black mags that show all of the misses of HBCUs have to say about this?

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Man, I just don’t care™,
    100% correct…

    hey jb!!!

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    man,
    If they get Hampton out of the “HBCU” phase then they would get more government funding

  • JB

    Since everyone is speaking about money and funding, also know that HU is a private institution. So NSU gets money from the state. So if HU is trying to more funding and money they are going tohave to get it from other folks.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Man

    “I think the University is trying to navigate AWAY from being an HBCU and this is the beginning step.”

    I’ve been reading about the financial struggles of HBCUs, and it hurts my heart. Hampton has a vast, great history, as do all of the HBCUs. They’ve produced most of the most prominent names in black history. We CANNOT lose nor tarnish this great legacy.

  • HamptonGrad06

    She was not voted by the students…She does not attend the main Hampton University campus…She attends the satellite campus…Had never been to the main campus until last week…She knows no history of the school, therefore she is not a representation of what Hampton University…

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    JB,
    true, but HU is pretty much trying to do what William and Mary does.

    Keri,
    I can guarantee you that almost every white person who attends Hampton goes because they have a full ride and stipends, yet there are many black students who don’t get anything from hampton unless they become an athlete.

  • Peptostreptococcus

    This is probably the first time this young white woman has ever experienced the evils of racism. It’s something that “minorities” go through every single day!!! Imagine “us” writing to the president every time someone judged us based on the color of our skin!!! lol. Whatever.

  • HU ALUM

    Hampton students DO NOT VOTE for Ms. HU..she is selected by a panel of judges!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Lady A

    “yet there are many black students who don’t get anything from hampton unless they become an athlete.”

    So true. Other than a little scholarship money, my education was paid for by my parents. There were students who could not afford to stay in school because of a lack of financial aid.

    @HamptonGrad06

    “Had never been to the main campus until last week…”

    You have to be kidding me. So do students even know who she is?

  • JB

    JB,
    true, but HU is pretty much trying to do what William and Mary does.

    You know I know nothing about that side. What does W&M do?

  • dfiestyone

    @ HO SIT DOWN, THANK YOU!!! You seem to be the only one that’s really paying attention with the things that’s going on now. Yes, that’s how it usually works that the students vote but I guess you haven’t been listening to Steve Harvey or Tom Joyner about the HBCU’s and how they don’t have money… just because the students normally vote doesn’t mean that the person that was voted for the most will win. That’s like back in ’00 when Gore deserved to win but didn’t… Bush did… the majority, I’m convinced voted for Gore, but somehow, Bush still won it!!! Do you understand now how it goes?

  • JB

    I think the Cougar should run for Miss NSU next year. LMAO!!!!

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    As a senior at Hampton University who attended the pageant I can honestly say that she was not the best contestant there were at least three other girls who were better. Now that is a personal opinion. But also she is not a student on our campus she is on he Va Beach campus meaning she pays half the tuition we payed. So if that still doesnt matter She is also a senior, now I have been pretty active/ social among my campus and never had I seen her till this pageant. Most students feel as if she used this to be able to be in the Miss Va pageant. I really feel bad that se feels its racial but its not her platform was weak her talent was cute and she didn wear an evening gown. Also she just won and could not even wait 48 hours to contact Obama, before she even addressed us students. Maybe if she was an active member of our campus she would know the real reason. Just food for thought.

  • JB

    To defend the whites that go to NSU. I have talked to many who come through my job and they go to NSU because they have the only and best Social Work program around. The same with the Nursing program as well. Better than ODU, Hampton, William and Mary or VSU. So you go where the best program is and go where you can get the most money. THey are considered minorities.

  • bun babylon

    ok.. gwal crown

    true say uno kian summmon Obama like he fava batman zeen?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Brittany L. Pennywell

    So let me understand this. . .she was named Miss Hampton on Friday and between that night and Sunday, she was overwhelmed by the deluge of animosity (tongue stuck firmly in cheek) to the point that she had to write President Obama?

    This is nuts.

  • Why?

    I wish Black People would quit using the double edged sword with every DAMN thing in the world!

    Now if this were White institution, A Black student won, White protested in the same manner, can you imagine the ruckus?!!!!

    At the end of the day, she pays part or some of the tuition to the school. Its not like this crown is going to grant her some secret way into Heaven, but rather a token of expression.

    Congratulations to you!!! Live on and wear the crown well! Those who are different will continue to pour negativity because they dont have an open mind to see the difference.

    You cant fight fire with fire and after so long, when will this madness end. Not all White people are responsible for the failure of my people (Blacks). It is the lack of education and consistency among themselves and as a whole unit. Get it together folks!
    SMH

  • currentHUstudent

    Hi, I am a current HU student! Let me clarify some things…the students DO NOT vote for Miss HU, she is decided by a panel of judges. She was NOT the better candidate at all..there were several girls who were more qualified than she was. She also does not attend the main campus, but rather she attends a satellite campus in VA beach that does not interact with the main campus in anyway! She does not even pay the same tuition! It would be different if she went to the main campus, and people actually knew who she was, but no one has ever seen her before and she has done nothing for the school. If this was about race then people would have been upset about the winner of Mr. HU ,which we call Mr. Pirate, as well because he is majority asian. However, being that he attends the main campus, was the better candidate, and actually puts in real work around the campus and has been his whole time at HU no one cared. I just think that this is a slap in the face.

  • B’More

    so what. now she and the rest of white america knows how Vanessa Williams, and every other black pageant winner felt.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    She is basically putting the school in a bad light with a crown on her head.

    I’m getting angrier thinking about this. . .

  • JB

    @Brittany L. Pennywell

    So let me understand this. . .she was named Miss Hampton on Friday and between that night and Sunday, she was overwhelmed by the deluge of animosity (tongue stuck firmly in cheek) to the point that she had to write President Obama?

    This is nuts.
    ___________________________________________________

    Like someone said earier if she is trying to get into the VA state Pagent, then her platform will probably be to end racism and talka bout how students didn’t accept her.

  • tate

    first taylor swift now this! where’s the white naacp? lol

  • dayg715

    oh, boo hoo. whites are in NO position to cry racism, especially with their history and background.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Why?,
    SMH it is pretty evident that you are not reading the comments to understand why students were really upset and because the students didn’t have a voice people don’t know how they really felt.

  • JB

    Why?

    I wish Black People would quit using the double edged sword with every DAMN thing in the world!

    Now if this were White institution, A Black student won, White protested in the same manner, can you imagine the ruckus?!!!!

    At the end of the day, she pays part or some of the tuition to the school. Its not like this crown is going to grant her some secret way into Heaven, but rather a token of expression.

    Congratulations to you!!! Live on and wear the crown well! Those who are different will continue to pour negativity because they dont have an open mind to see the difference.

    You cant fight fire with fire and after so long, when will this madness end. Not all White people are responsible for the failure of my people (Blacks). It is the lack of education and consistency among themselves and as a whole unit. Get it together folks!
    SMH
    __________________________________________________

    You don’t or didn’t go to a HBCU do/did you?

  • dayg715

    @why

    it’s not a “double edged sword”. it’s called “Karma”. do some research into white american history, and you’ll see why it’s “karma”.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    @Sydney™ Yes… She has not addressed us or anythhing. She came to one of our major football games (hampton vs howard) saturday but left before half time and before most students even arrived.

  • lovely one

    @ currentHUstudent

    Hi, I am a current HU student! Let me clarify some things…the students DO NOT vote for Miss HU, she is decided by a panel of judges. She was NOT the better candidate at all..there were several girls who were more qualified than she was. She also does not attend the main campus, but rather she attends a satellite campus in VA beach that does not interact with the main campus in anyway! She does not even pay the same tuition! It would be different if she went to the main campus, and people actually knew who she was, but no one has ever seen her before and she has done nothing for the school. If this was about race then people would have been upset about the winner of Mr. HU ,which we call Mr. Pirate, as well because he is majority asian. However, being that he attends the main campus, was the better candidate, and actually puts in real work around the campus and has been his whole time at HU no one cared. I just think that this is a slap in the face.
    —————————
    I can believe you. I went to a predominantly white school but the Omega Frat had a pagent and a white female won. She was not the most elegant, classy or well spoken one out of the bunch but she still won.

  • HUstudent

    WE DID NOT VOTE FOR HER!!!!
    This is no longer a system that the student body controls!

    SHE’S NOT FROM THE MAIN CAMPUS!!!
    99.9% of of had no idea who she was before the night of the pageant. She goes to school in Virginia Beach, a campus that offers three degrees and does not regularly affiliate with the rest of the student body.

    and why do we need to congratulate a white person for showing us, once again, that they can come out on top?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Brittany

    “She came to one of our major football games (hampton vs howard) saturday but left before half time and before most students even arrived.”

    She did what? This is ridiculous.

    Alumni need to address this quickly. This is unacceptable. And Homecoming is in a few weeks? Some heads need to roll.

  • YorkieLover

    Barry

    Why would they vote a white woman queen of a black campus? Why do we always feel the need to bend over backwards for our oppressor? She should NOT have won. It’s a Black campus with mostly black students, the winner should represent this.
    ………………………………………
    I agree. I noticed this has been going on at a lot of HBCU’s. I wonder do they feel the need to choose a white queen because we elected a biracial president? Mostly white schools aren’t suddenly electing black queens. I tell ya, black folks are so naive.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    Exactly. Everyone knows the halftime show IS the best part of the games. The Force is well loved.

  • Why?

    and lady architect is pretty evident you dont understand my point of view either because not all the students who posted comments said anything about the fact that they didnt vote. There are probably a combination of factors of which I chose to focus particularly on the hating aspect if u will.

  • Saltaya

    Why vote for her if they didn’t want her to win.

    Reality Check: Let’s move on to the next story. Haters and racism are everywhere and always will be.

  • YorkieLover

    lovely one
    —————————
    I can believe you. I went to a predominantly white school but the Omega Frat had a pagent and a white female won. She was not the most elegant, classy or well spoken one out of the bunch but she still won.
    …………………………
    I graduated from a mostly white university too and I can remember twice where black fraternity’s elected white queens. The white girls definitely weren’t the best and you can tell the frats knew them personally before the pageant by the way they were hollering,screaming their names,and supporting them during the pageant.

  • adkfoeau

    Wait, so since she is white, she is supposed to endure all of the angry emitting from some part of the black community? If it was the other way around, a black homecoming queen being ridiculed at predominately white University, Black activists would have been all over that situation. I agree with It’s Just Me; the college accepted her to be there, she should be allowed to participate in any the college activities.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Why?

    “There are probably a combination of factors of which I chose to focus particularly on the hating aspect if u will.”

    What is the “hating” aspect? I’m so tired of that trite term thrown out whenever someone offers a differing opinion. People have every right to be upset about this situation.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    *being thrown out*

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Why?

    and lady architect is pretty evident you dont understand my point of view either because not all the students who posted comments said anything about the fact that they didnt vote. There are probably a combination of factors of which I chose to focus particularly on the hating aspect if u will.

    ok I understand…so what website have you been reading so I can go look at it? I know HBCU connect an stuff have students going nuts pretty much saying the same thing about the young lady being a transfer student who goes to the satellite school and stuff and about this being a publicity stunt.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Why?

    and lady architect is pretty evident you dont understand my point of view either because not all the students who posted comments said anything about the fact that they didnt vote. There are probably a combination of factors of which I chose to focus particularly on the hating aspect if u will.
    ___________________________________________________

    Ok then put it like this. Do you rememer when people in the state of NY were complaining that Hillary Clinton was going to run for the NY senate seat, but hadn’t lived in NY? It’s the same thing.

    Consider the satellite campus the bronx and the campus Manhattan. Two who different entities even though both considered to be NYC. Someone in the Bronx may no nothing about Manhattan and therefore can not represent it fully to fully serve the school in it’s capacity.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    I just wish one of the non- black students that were on our campus ran, one who was quaified and really got on stage and showed the rest of the girls out so that we would have a good representation. If only outsiders knew the background of the majority of our campus they would know that its only few who think of this racially. Its sad because instead of representing us well she is making a mockery it seems. I am an avid supporter of my school and I just thought we looked past race to who is deserving… she wasnt but I would have still supported her because of my love for my shool but after this I dont think I can say i will be a 100 percen supporter of her. Hopefully she becomes more ative in ativities and with the student body know that she has the crown. Prove everyone wrong…

  • Why?

    Why does everything BLACKS do need to include ALL BLACKS yet we want affirmative action and all this other CRAP to be on our side. We want every race to say, hey, we are sorry for your past so why not COME ON in, HERE, have this, and all this other bullshyt. Man please. Although I know racism exists on all levels, folkz need to help themselves first and quit expecting folks who had nothing to do with what happened in the past to be the reasons why your future is so damn gloom!!!

  • Jasmine

    She won. What can you do about it??

    Did you all know that the valedictorian of Morehouse College was a white male in 2008? Should he have not received that honor because he was white? No, he worked hard for it.

    IMO you have to be fair to all sides. Ok so she won, but I’m sure she deserved it.

    This may not be a situation of hate because she’s white, but then again it may be. I think she should get her congratulations and let the situation drop from discussions. We black females just have to try harder next time.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Brittany L. Pennywell

    I am an avid supporter of my school
    _______________________________________________

    just make sure you come and support that ass-whooping yall about to get by that green and gold!!

    LMAO!!

    You and Lady A and Syd!!

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    FYI WE DID NOT VOTE FOR HER WE HAVE A PANEL OF JUDGES TWO SIT FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION AND THE REST ARE PART OF THE MS VIRGINIA PAGEANT DIRECTORS

  • Peptostreptococcus

    @ Why?? Ummm…Karma does not happen by chance. It’s a belief that for every action there is always a reaction. So basically whatever you do, comes back to you…or “What goes around, comes around”…And in this case I think people are saying that what’s happening to this girl is KARMA (!!!) because whites have discriminated against blacks for centuries, and now the girl is experiencing what blacks have always experienced.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “We black females just have to try harder next time.”

    It sounds like it wouldn’t have mattered what the other contestants had done — This wasn’t a decision made by the students, and that’s why many of them are upset (and so will many alumni once they learn about this).

    Also, people who went to HU are already very familiar with how much of a difference being on campus makes in terms of intermingling with fellow students and really having the full Hampton “experience.” I lived on campus all four years, was on the Yard every day, ate in the big and small cafs, etc. All of that would have been much more difficult for me to partake in had I lived off campus, and even more difficult if I had gone to school on a satellite campus — Although Hampton and Va. Beach are both in the Tidewater region, there’s still considerable distance between the two.

    The fact is, from what I’m gathering, is that this young woman was not regularly seen on campus, nor was she selected by her peers. That’s a major issue.

    And this is a very different situation than the valedictorian at Morehouse who earned that distinction based on his academic standing.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    I don’t understand how she can begin to compete when she is a transfer student that attends the satellite school which she doesn’t even have the same amount of classes as the average main campus student. Part of being Miss HU deals with academics and the different activities you are involved in. From my experience Miss HU has always been a member of SGA atleast and student leaders. Nobody on main campus even knew who this girl was.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    @JB
    Lol good way to lighten the mood but i am pretty sure my Pirates have it under control ;-)

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Did you all know that the valedictorian of Morehouse College was a white male in 2008? Should he have not received that honor because he was white? No, he worked hard for it.
    ___________________________________________________

    I think many of you are missing the point of what the students are saying.

    THeya re not saying she shouldn’t have won because she is white. She should have won because she is a full supporter of the campus as a whole. Doesn’t attend campus functions or isn’t part of any ampus club. She goes to class at an off campus site and other than having an ID card that says HU, you would know that she is even a student there.

  • The Real HU

    Am I the only one worried about Miss Senior’s errors in her letter to the President?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    Now you know that the blue-and-white will be victorious (as usual). :)

    @Brittany

    “FYI WE DID NOT VOTE FOR HER WE HAVE A PANEL OF JUDGES TWO SIT FROM OUR ADMINISTRATION AND THE REST ARE PART OF THE MS VIRGINIA PAGEANT DIRECTORS.”

    I need more info on this — do you know the names of the two judges from HU’s administration? And there are outside pageant directors who are involved in the selection?

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    JB,
    exactly…many people are truly missing the point and her writing this terrible letter further makes people think their assumptions are correct. She’s making this more of a race issue and this will bring crazy publicity to the camnpus

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Mz Jazz

    Girl if you were really trying to get on that show, Imma need for you to take the blue pill instead of the red one next time

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    But let it be known, that I JB attend NSU campus full-time. Ok now vote for me!! LMAO!!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @The Real HU

    “Am I the only one worried about Miss Senior’s errors in her letter to the President?”

    The whole situation is deplorable — and look for it to be picked up by mainstream media as well, particularly since she’s alleging that she is being mistreated by other students.

    I’ll say it again — Alumni are going to hit the roof.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Lady A

    “She’s making this more of a race issue and this will bring crazy publicity to the camnpus.”

    Exactly. It wouldn’t surprise me if she lands on The Today Show soon to discuss this “racism.” Disgusting. First the shooting earlier this year and now this.

    President Harvey, you have some explaining to do.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Sydney,
    yup I will be there for the homecoming game just to see the action…lol..so far the local media hasn’t mentioned it, but I’m waiting to see

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “Girl if you were really trying to get on that show, Imma need for you to take the blue pill instead of the red one next time”

    ——————-DEAD——————-

    JB, please stop, lol.

  • Courtney

    Ok people are on here commenting and have no idea what the process is for Miss HU.

    Coming from a current student who was the pageant the young lady was not the best contestant by a mile.

    We have an Asian Mr. Priate and he’s a part of the student body he has attended with us fo the last four years, been active in all types of orgainizations, he’s even in a black frat he’s is a hamptonian and we accept him because he is a Pirate he’s paid his dues just like the rest of us for the last four years.

    This young lady had nothing to do with Hampton until this day. This is not a case of reverse racism if we wanted to attend a school where we had white figure heads maybe we woulnd’t have choosen a HBCU…is it too much to ask that we’re representing by a more qualified person?

    she does not attend the main campus, she does not pay the same tuition, WE DO NOT KNOW HER AT ALL! When I was a student intern for Pres. Obama i never saw her at the office trying to be a part of change…i didn’t see her canvassing neighborhoods in the heat, rain, cold. I didn’t see her getting voters registered. so don’t reach out to him now…she was on the beach somewhere in VA beach probably!

    and students DO NOT VOTE for Miss Hampton… we do not nominate or anything. “judges” picked this young lady and what they saw we’ll never know maybe they should be interviewd bc i would sure like to know.

    I honestly feel the young lady in the blue was the best contestant. she had the confidence to get on stage and hold her head high knowing she was hearing impared she played a classical piano piece beautifully and did it all with grace.

    the young lady who won looked lost all night like she’d never done a pagent before and her “talent” was a watered down version of the hula. if she wanted an easy route to the Miss VA pageant she picked the wrong way bc now she’s in a world of mess. by the way she will be trampled by the contestants in Miss VA so good luck and get a pageant coach

    so when u all sit back and call us racist please know the facts first. The young lady who won was not the best contestant.

    HU is all about history and tradition so if they want to start changing stuff up now they better think twice. Those of us who attend or have attending all know what Pres. Harvey whats the image of HU to be and its not what it is.

    We’re are BLACK, we’re on our way to being EDUCATED, we should be premoting our achievements as black scholars not trying to make our school assimilate to be a part of the mainstream.

    i love my HBCU life…I came here to finally be a part of the majority and I can say the atmosphere we creat here is nurturing to black students. We are not ignorant we just want what is fair and right.

    her letter was in bad taste and poorly written …hell i’ve always attending all white schools until i came to college…if i wrote a letter for the last 21 years of my life everytime I experience racsim i would have enough letters to fill multiple books.

  • Kim

    OMG! Doesn’t President Obama have enough on his plate without being asked to mediate a pageant?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Lady A

    I’m not sure about Homecoming this year — this is too much for me. I checked the Daily Press website, and I don’t see any mention of this — Yet.

  • Angee

    @ms jazz

    I asked you in the other thread, R U serious with this?

  • PUSSYCATFUN

    GIRL PLEASE!

    WELCOME TO OUR WORLD.

    JUST DEAL WITH IT LIKE WE DO.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Lady A

    If you notice in her letter to President Obama, she mentions that she was interviewed by a local network. She sounds like she’s looking for attention — at the expense of the school. Again, I ask, what happened to her between Friday and Sunday when she wrote this?? Good grief.

  • Caramel Cat

    The fact that her letter has all these errors makes me think that she is also trying to send a subliminal message that HBCU’s are inadequate in regards to higher learning, maybe my conspiracy theory antenna is up too high…*shrugs shoulders*

  • http://chattingwithsan.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/her-letter-to-president-obama/ Her letter to President Obama!!! « Sandra Speaks

    [...] Her letter to President Obama!!! For Discussion: Guess Which One Is 2009-2010 Miss Hampton University [...]

  • PUSSYCATFUN

    BTW…THE GAYS HAVE FIRST DIBS ON OBAMA’S ATTENTION….SO TAKE A NUMBER!

    LMAO!

  • Young Obama

    Damn I bet she gets alot of pub from this. Also she does look good.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    Dr. William Harvey is behind this……

  • http://perryone779@yahoo.com rose by any other name

    Ok~~ well im about to send off my letter to Obama about some struggles im having~!!!

  • GIRLBOO

    She had this planned the whole time.She knew there would be problems and thats WHY she did it.Of all the colleges in the country she chose to go to one where the student body was 99% black? Black people need to wake up.

  • http://perryone779@yahoo.com rose by any other name

    I BLAME GEO W BUSHY HEAD!!!!

  • Caramel Cat

    Hey Syd! :)

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    Dr. William Harvey is behind this……

    you are so right…this is how he’s gonna get the funding for that new business school.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    Its a slap in the face of the university, i thought students voted on these types of things….Based on looks, the one on the right. Maybe she got a great personality, because i don’t see the beauty….

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Dr. Harvey hasn’t changed one bit. There were rumors about him when I was in school.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    hello ladies

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Snoop

    “Maybe she got a great personality, because i don’t see the beauty….”

    Thank you! The campus is full of sisters who turn heads — and, yes, this is a sentiment I’ve heard expressed repeatedly by brothers. They’re in the minority, so it’s like playland to them.

  • CW

    who cares if she won. is that crown paying anyone’s tuition??? no, so grow up and get over it already. and to those who feel the need to get technical about where she lives or who on campus knows us, again, who cares. yall act like a free ride comes with that crown. who cares if the alumni gets mad. so what. she won, she wrote Obama, she probably got mad attention, and i bet everyone on campus knows her name now. mission accomplished. u just mad her name was in lights and urs wasn’t.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Hey Snoop!! The boy scored on an 80 yard pass!!!

  • Courtney

    Barack Obama responds to every damn thing happening with black people…we got this one BO we’ll be ur unofficial cabinet! you just concentrate on health care reform.

  • Ms. Brilly

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like people are mad for these main reasons: she doesn’t know that campus history, she’s a transfer student, pays a different amount of tuition, and attends a satellite campus, and she wasn’t voted for by the student body?

    Let her have her win. She’s no less of a student than anyone else. I don’t know the history of the Miss Hampton contest but has there never been a winner who was a transfer student? who attended a satellite campus? who paid a different amount of tution? Did the organization of the event just change or has a panel been choosing the winner for some time now?

    Unfortunately, I feel like race is a factor here and it’s kind of sad. And so what she sent a letter to the President? She was asking him to come and speak. Will he go there, probably not. Is it crazy for her to write? No. I once wrote a letter to the first president Bush asking him to come to my school and explain the Iran-contra affair. Presidents get letters all the time, mostly about B.S they don’t have time for.

  • Courtney

    thank you sydney…

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    Hey Snoop!! The boy scored on an 80 yard pass!!!
    __________

    congrats……thats what i’m talking about, beat up on poor BC huh?? lol

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “u just mad her name was in lights and urs wasn’t.”

    LOL

    Maybe I should write a letter to President Obama about, um, let’s see, the pressures I feel I have endured while working in Corporate America. Or how isolated I felt while going to a predominantly white grad school. . .

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    lovely lady a……hey ma, give me your opinion on my FB thread when you get the chance…..

  • GIRLBOO

    I meant to say since his mother was “white” not right.LOL Sorry for the typ

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “I don’t know the history of the Miss Hampton contest but has there never been a winner who was a transfer student?”

    I can’t recall one — Can you, fellow Hamptonians? Every Miss Hampton I knew of was well known on campus and heavily involved in student events.

    And, yes, it sounds like the process of selecting a winner of this competition has changed drastically, which is problematic.

  • joe

    leave that gal alone. they voted, she won. come on black pholk. we doin to them what we stopped them from doin to us. two wrongs dont make a right…

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Courtney

    Sure thing, sista. I could definitely relate to this portion of your post:

    “hell i’ve always attending all white schools until i came to college…if i wrote a letter for the last 21 years of my life everytime I experience racsim i would have enough letters to fill multiple books.”

    There were so many students who shared similar experiences. I used to joke that I had finally found my home among fellow black nerds, lol.

  • joe

    and by the way since we talkn bout hbcu’s. dem Tennessee State University Tigers stand up! tha big dawgs on the bloc! The big dawgs big bosses!

  • currentHUstudent

    I feel like she is already getting off to a bad start, giving the school bad press already and she hasn’t even been representing the school for a week. Maybe if she attended the main campus and actually knew some students, she would have been able to address the situation with the students first instead of going directly to the President of the United States. I mean she couldn’t even take it to the President of the University first! If you have a problem with the student body that you are now representing you should address us. However, I can see how that would be hard for her to do considering that she doesn’t know anyone.

    Its not about race people and I wish ya’ll would get that through your narrow-minded heads. The issue is bigger than that.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    @ Snoop they killed them!! We at #4 now!!!

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    lmfao @ pirate meat…..whaddup awesome

  • HUAlum

    Please re-read our school’s history. General Samuel Armstrong was Hawaiian and founded Hampton to educate many Indians, Blacks and Mulattos. I understand the issue of the main campus but if there are no rules in the Miss Hampton pageant then why are people fretting. If you were an informed student, you would know there is a satellite campus because its easy to see on the school’s website. There are too many positive things taking place on our campus for us to feed into this negativity. Yes her letter was a bit much but the ridicule started way before she even sent the letter. We can accept an African-American leading the “free white world” for the first time, but cant get down with a Hawaiian leading a school founded by a Hawaiian for all races. Hamptonians we are way better than this and we all know it!

  • Oh Wow

    I hope someone from HU gets homecoming footage and posts it.

  • Divine

    I think her letter comes off extremely immature and self-serving…

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    @ Snoop they killed them!! We at #4 now!!!
    ________

    yeah we right on yall heels…..lol

  • HUAlum

    The last Miss HU was a theif…now what. Negative press two years in a row, I’d rather have someone trying to make a change than a thief with a wrap sheet.

  • Awesome-O-3000

    @ snoop

    Nothing much fam. About to hit this gym soon.

    What’s good everybody?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “If you have a problem with the student body that you are now representing you should address us. However, I can see how that would be hard for her to do considering that she doesn’t know anyone.”

    I think she’s making it even harder for herself through making a public play for publicity by writing President Obama — who’s swamped by the “minor” issues of health care reform, wars, burgeoning unemployment, a fractured Congress, etc. This isn’t going to ingratiate more people to her — it’s an alienating gesture.

  • Sanjor

    “Ok~~ well im about to send off my letter to Obama about some struggles im having~!!!”
    ==============================================
    Maybe he can help you with your racism. I would reccomend church but I’m sure you go to the Church of Racism.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    snoop,
    interesting…I left a nice comment

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “Hamptonians we are way better than this and we all know it!”

    Yeah, we are better than this debacle, and we’re going to make our opinions known.

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    We can accept an African-American leading the “free white world” for the first time, but cant get down with a Hawaiian leading a school founded by a Hawaiian for all races. Hamptonians we are way better than this and we all know it!
    ____________

    I agree, my thing is if they changed he voting process and she won theres a pretty good reason for people to be upset….

  • WhoCares?!!!!?!?!

    I sure hope Obama doesnt respond to this shyt! Who cares about her experiencing racism??? How long have minorities been victims of racism. We sure dont write the f—ng President!! Get over it!

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    currentHUstudent

    I feel like she is already getting off to a bad start, giving the school bad press already and she hasn’t even been representing the school for a week.
    ___________________________________________________

    It is all a ploy by NSU to get into your heads so you lose when you guys come across the water!!!

    BEHOLD THE GREEN AND GOLD!!

  • Young Obama

    You have to feel sorry for her but she had to know that it was going to be backlash. I mean she’s an attractive Hawaiian girl on a black campus. I’m also quite sure she was getting a lot of brothas attention which meant a lot of black women were hating her already – her winning only added fuel to the fire. But what’s funny she was voted in so the majority must have had love for her, and I don’t believe any conspiracy theories. We are quick to claim racism (which is true the majority of the time), so we can’t fall in that same trap we despise.
    By the way it’s no way Obama would ever come near that topic. He has enough on his plate right now.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    It is all a ploy by NSU to get into your heads so you lose when you guys come across the water!!!

    BEHOLD THE GREEN AND GOLD!!

    when we get mad we come harder!

  • Courtney

    HUalum

    please sit down and be quiet

    General Armstrong was a white man raised in Hawaii

    This young lady is a white woman raised in Hawaii

    HAWAIIAN is not a RACE OR ETHNICITY

    if you’re speaking of idengenous peoples of hawaii they are Polynesian, which consist of many different cultures according to the different island within the oceania chain from which they migrated

    its clear how you spent your time at Hampton and it wasn’t with your head in a book

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Young Obama

    “I’m also quite sure she was getting a lot of brothas attention which meant a lot of black women were hating her already – her winning only added fuel to the fire.”

    What?? You have issues.

    Have you not read the previous posts? The students did NOT vote for her — the selection process has changed.

  • Divine

    HUAlum

    The last Miss HU was a theif…now what. Negative press two years in a row, I’d rather have someone trying to make a change than a thief with a wrap sheet.

    ——————————————————–
    How is she making a change? By being white? Huh?

    I’m sure no one wants a thief to represent them. But if she is truely a representative of Hampton University, then what kind of change is she wanting?

    At my school we elected our queen.
    And we had a SLEW of girls that ran.
    Some girls who did’t participating in school activities, weren’t well known for being poised and having class and being a great representative, weren’t not elected.
    In fact, at the different ‘question/answer’ session, students would call them out.

    I don’t think the girl did anything against the rules, as did any of the inactive girls who ran for my schools queen. But the students held them accountable.

    I believe i would be a bit mad if, I think if a girl who was taking classes satillite/online, never attended school functions, never participated in the school clubs, never seen working with the colleagues or Student Government or anything, I would be a little mad that a panel of adminstrators selected her, regardless of race.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    I think before she was so quick to write to Obama, how about writing to the administrators of the school first, addressing the student body perhaps….why not say something during half time on Saturday…

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    I mean she’s an attractive Hawaiian girl on a black campus. I’m also quite sure she was getting a lot of brothas attention which meant a lot of black women were hating her already –

    The campus she attended is across the street from my job and that place is trying to be the new downtown of Va Beach. She has a better chance of high school students seeing her than any black male from HU.

  • Peptostreptococcus

    @ Why:
    I never said it was right. I just gave an explanation. Do I think that blacks should deliberately discriminate against whites so that they “know what it feels like too”? No. However, it happens. Sometimes experience is the best teacher. When you know how it feels to be placed in an inferior category, it changes you sometimes. Then you learn not to treat others that way. Like I said in my very first post, this girl may have never experienced this type of discrimination in her life. She can open a newspaper and see her people majorly presented in a positive light. She can go into a shopping center, whip out a credit card/check and know that the color of her skin will erase any doubt of her financial reliability. She probably doesn’t go to stores and get followed. She doesn’t get stopped by the police because she “fits the description”… Ode to all the benefits of WHITE PRIVILEGE!!! Most whites don’t get challenged by the color of their skin, and when it does happen, it’s foreign to them!!! They don’t know how to deal with it…so they write letters to the president of the USA. I am not saying that this girl has harbored any ill feelings towards blacks, Latinos or Asians…but IF she has, maybe now she understands just how damaging and counterproductive it is to be judged by your skin color and not by the qualities that you have that make you rightfully qualified for any position that you seek.

    To answer your question: We’ll probably never get rid of racism. It’s been around since the beginning of time. People have always separated themselves from/discriminated against others based on skin color, class, sex…etc. I truly don’t think that it will ever go away. That’s my opinion.

  • Courtney

    HUalum

    we all know there is a VA Beach campus its not an issue of not knowing…its the issue of her attending that campus and not being a part of the student body, never attending a game until she was crowned…its clear the Miss HU pageant needs to be removed from being a prelim to Miss VA because Miss HU is not being picked according to HU standards

    ps the last Miss HU wasn’t a thief…it was the one before her…I’M JUST SAYING

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “The campus she attended is across the street from my job and that place is trying to be the new downtown of Va Beach. She has a better chance of high school students seeing her than any black male from HU.”

    Thank you, JB, lol.

    Some of the brothers on this site need an exorcism. They need to be released from the demonic spirit of “I Loathe Black Women. . .”

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    BOYCOTT THE HOMECOMING!!! That will fix Dr. William Harvey’s a$$……lol J/K

  • Dajournalist

    Nice letter. Well stated. He just might do it.

  • YOUNG ‘N’ NIEVE

    SHE NEEDS TO GET OVER IT.SHE WON WHO CARES.THIS IS THE REAL WORLD,NOT EVERYONE WILL LIKE YOU.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “I don’t think it’s that big of a deal that she wrote a letter to the President. Did she publish it?”

    The letter is posted online for public viewing on Congress.org, which makes it very easy to be picked up by media outlets. Since this is a “controversial” topic, made even more so by the implication of race, the chances that it will be publicized on a larger scale are great, which is negative news for the school.

    I’ve read her letter and, to me, it’s obvious that she is seeking attention, and it’s highly questionable that it took her all of two days to determine that she was compelled to take this to the highest office of the land. It’s nonsensical.

  • A

    JUST TO CLARIFY – I am a Hampton Alum – we DO NOT get a vote for Ms. Hampton – it’s decided by a panel of judges picked by the Student Activities Office. The student body DOESN’T have a voice in the pageant or the opportunity to vote, and while I’m definitely not condoning some of the behavior recently, I DO believe this has a LOT to do with the reason why some of the disgrunteled student body have acted out…

  • Courtney

    she published the letter. I do not know where, but somehow yesterday everybody had read it and were talkiing about it. Its sad she would bring this negative light to the school bc there are so many positive things about HU. I feel like she’s trying to play a victim and drag the school throught the dirt, while she’s just looking for attention. If she couldn’t survive people talking about her for 2 days she sure would not have survied 4 years at Hampton

  • http://www.bossip.com Re

    I won Miss Freshman at UMES, and was training actively to run for Miss University of MD, Eastern Shore, and hopefully Miss HBCU. Now, due to the drastic changes in my life (marriage to a US soldier), I left and continued to pursue my education at a non-hbcu college. I followed the the pageant closely anyway after I left, and found the students were so willing so vote for a MALE as the MISS UMES because he was a so called “queen.” He didn’t win, but he was allowed to run anyway.

    Imagine ruling out a white woman who pays her money to an HBCU and dedicates her services to the University, and wants to eventually represent her institution. Imagine ruling her out so that a gay man can take her place. How backwards and filled with double standards is that?

    Anyway, if this woman believes in Hampton and wants to represent it well, go for it girl. Ya’ll want the white peoples money, but don’t want her participating in your events? And who are these contesting her win? Maybe the fools who didn’t vote. Cause in case they didn’t notice, the student vote is a factor in the decision made by the judges in the end. So that means their own peers voted for her. Fools.

  • TM30

    Bottom line, people need to treat people how they want to be treated.

    Black and white people are more a like than we’d like to admit. It’s such a shame race relations aren’t better in this country. (sarcasm)

    I’m trying to figure out why she’s being attacked. It’s not as if she voted for herself. If there is a problem it should have been taken up with the pageant officials and/or the administration. Plus, if she is on the receiving end of racial slurs, who does she really have in to turn to? Many organizations are going to touch this case with a 10 foot pole. And for those brave enough to, they will be ridiculed beyond belief.

  • http://www.bossip.com Re

    where have YOU seen ***typo

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @A

    “The student body DOESN’T have a voice in the pageant or the opportunity to vote”

    I’m seeing the same post from a number of you, so why are people still writing that her peers selected her?

  • kendra tyler

    a few things to think about.

    1. she attends the Va beach campus, not main campus so no1 knew/knows who she is nor does she know about main campus culture etc.

    2. HU students DO NOT vote for Miss HU. they have no say what so ever (which should be changed-they should have some type of input as to who represents the University)

    3. Harvey has been trying to win the Miss VA pageant for years ( personally this is his golden ticket)

    4. the reason it is a “big deal” because we as hamptonians know how President Harvey is, so her taking he crown seems like a publicity stunt. Also, this pageant, may it be small to some, is all that some Blacks have. When is the last time you saw a Black student winning the title at a white school?

    5. no i’m not a racist and congratulate her on her win; however, writing President Obama is a tad bit extreme. Like Obama, he knew the flack he would get (a Black man running for President; a “white man’s territory” so to speak; however, he did not let that deter him and he IS our President (Thank God) so to nikole, you knew what type of flack you would receive. do u deserve it? no. but u must hold your own!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    It sounds like her “peers” weren’t even aware of her.

    The old process was for candidates for Miss Hampton to actively campaign on campus, replete with signs, buttons, and the like. But that no longer seems to be the case, and that’s troubling.

  • Divine

    @Re
    Anyway, if this woman believes in Hampton and wants to represent it well, go for it girl. Ya’ll want the white peoples money, but don’t want her participating in your events?
    ————————————————————————————-
    I believe the issue is she never attended or participated in any of Hamptons events before or event socialized with the students.
    She was a Satellite student. So she just too the classes and never came to the HU campus.
    Her being white is why they believe she was selected.
    That’s what I gathered. Despite her lack of activity or knowlegde of Hampton and the students, she was selected by a panel of non-students.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    @Sydney™ i believe one of them was Ms. Gentry (sp?) I am unsure of the other

    @Courtney beautifully put!

  • girl

    i think Mr. Obama got better things to do than come to support you by doing nothing around your campus lil girl. get over it. not everybody is going to have be “open minded”

  • Keish

    ummmmmm….. Does anyone think that Pres. Obama is really going to make an appearence? Pres. Obama is worried about Gay Rights and Health care not about someone calling this chick “Lil’ Obama”! That letter is HORRIBLE!!! Maybe people are not upset because she’s white, maybe they are upset because she does not speak nor write correct English. AND YOU DO NOT GREET THE PRESIDENT AS MR. OBAMA! disrespectful!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Brittany

    “Sydney™ i believe one of them was Ms. Gentry (sp?) I am unsure of the other”

    Thanks, she sounds familiar. I see that she is the academic counselor for freshman, according to the website.

  • asds

    If the students voted for her, they wanted her to have it. stop hating, yall. Not sure if she is white or hawaiian, by the pic. but it wouldnt matter, if she was martian. the students voted.

  • Divine

    @asds

    If the students voted for her, they wanted her to have it. stop hating, yall. Not sure if she is white or hawaiian, by the pic. but it wouldnt matter, if she was martian. the students voted.

    —————————————————————————
    Please read the other post. The students DIDN’T Vote for her.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    asds

    If the students voted for her, they wanted her to have it. stop hating, yall. Not sure if she is white or hawaiian, by the pic. but it wouldnt matter, if she was martian. the students voted.
    ___________________________________________________

    Um nope they didn’t vote for her. A panel did. not the students.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Courtney

    “I feel like she’s trying to play a victim and drag the school throught the dirt, while she’s just looking for attention.”

    She’s playing the “reverse racism” game, which has gained in popularity, it seems, since we elected a black president. It’s also a very effective means of getting your name in headlines, as I’m sure she’s aware.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    Rush Limbaugh was her campaign manager

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “Please read the other post. The students DIDN’T Vote for her.”

    LOL, does this need to be placed on a billboard?

  • Divine

    @Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Courtney

    “I feel like she’s trying to play a victim and drag the school throught the dirt, while she’s just looking for attention.”

    She’s playing the “reverse racism” game, which has gained in popularity, it seems, since we elected a black president. It’s also a very effective means of getting your name in headlines, as I’m sure she’s aware.
    ————————————————————————
    I totally agree. And this is occurring in all facets of society.
    Affirmative Action will be overturned soon because of this.
    We have not “arrived” because Obama is in office. Yet, this will be every opponents of affirmative action tactic. Not saying this girl is against it. I’m just saying, this will be the tactic.

    Someone mentioned Tennessee State Univ. White Students can get full scholarships to go to TSU because it is a State School and someone sued (using affirmative action/reverse racism arguement)because there aren’t enough white students and TSU has to do more to recruit more white students.

  • Ms. Brilly

    @ Keish
    ummmmmm….. Does anyone think that Pres. Obama is really going to make an appearence? Pres. Obama is worried about Gay Rights and Health care not about someone calling this chick “Lil’ Obama”! That letter is HORRIBLE!!! Maybe people are not upset because she’s white, maybe they are upset because she does not speak nor write correct English. AND YOU DO NOT GREET THE PRESIDENT AS MR. OBAMA! disrespectful!
    _______________________________________

    Actually, in journalism, it’s customary to address the President and President ___________ initially and then Mr. ____________ everytime thereafter. She has a President Obama and then a Mr. Obama. There are a few things in that letter that could use improvement, but I wouldn’t call it disrespectful.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    “Rush Limbaugh was her campaign manager”

    LOL, I know you’re joking, but if he catches wind of this, I’m sure it’s highly likely he’ll mention it. There are racist sites that are posting articles regularly about blacks. I did a Google on a news story I saw posted here (I think it was the one about the brother accused of raping his own daughter), and it was posted on a prominent site for white supremacists.

    @Divine

    “We have not “arrived” because Obama is in office.”

    I agree. If anything, racists seem to be coming out of the woodworks now since a black man entered the White House. There’s a lot of anger out there.

  • Ms. Brilly

    @ Divine
    Someone mentioned Tennessee State Univ. White Students can get full scholarships to go to TSU because it is a State School and someone sued (using affirmative action/reverse racism arguement)because there aren’t enough white students and TSU has to do more to recruit more white students.
    ___________________________________________

    That shouldn’t be controversial. The same is true for some black students at predominately white schools. Underrespresented populations (black, native american, latino, hispanic, etc) at many predominately white schools benefit from scholarships, gift aid, etc as a recruitment and retainment method.

  • http://bossip I`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

    Oh let the girl enjoy her win ! HATE is really boring and unproductive !

  • V-FROMROCK

    So she won good for her. I thought the school was for equal opportunity so please stop the hate.

  • top ramen shotta

    oh please, she’s fishing for a lil sympathy and saw an opportunity to grab 15 minutes of fame. that is a historically black college, so be glad they even gave you the honor and accept your criticism like any realistic person should.

  • Shirl

    THE TITLE WASNN’T GIVEN TO HER, HER PEERS VOTED!!!!!!!!!! SO WHAT’S TGE PROBLEM. MOVE ON AND GROW UP WANT TO BE ADULTS(COLLGE STUDENTS)

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    Some of you just sound ignorant. I am sure ther are people who are concerned race wise, but most work hard to afford to pay the tuition of the main campus (loans, scholarships, ect.) We do this so that we can have that experience. She is ORIGINALLY from Hawaii (she is a military brat) who actually resides in Chesapeake, Va with her parents.Meaning she is eligible for the grant given to Va residents which would cover her full tuition and soe on that campus (Va Beach). So lets forget race and just think about all those girls whose platforms were outstanding and who had to juggle this pageant and many other on campus activities along with jobs and affording a real evening gown… and who were outstanding in answering their questions…

    @Young Obama yes she is Beautiful (notice I capitalized) but she is so much NOT apart of our campus she doesnt know any of the gentlemen besides our kappas here to steal…

    @Re see she DOESNT pay the same tuition we do

    @EVERYONE who wishes to jump on our campus and say something PLEASE bring yourself here and get the full understanding of what we are saying, because everyone is quick with opinion but no one, not even Ms HU(Hampton) has addressed us as students Thanks

    Every year some people think the crowned Ms HU should not have won for their own personal reasons but never can they say, like now, that she really didnt deserve it. Everyone on campus cant be racist…

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    What’s controversial is that HBCUs are increasingly feeling more pressure to become “multi-cultural” when they have a history of having predominantly black student bodies.

    I have to say that the time when race least seem to matter to me was when I was in undergrad. I was free to be “me” and to feel totally accepted by others around me. I wasn’t asked offensive/weird questions, my qualifications weren’t scrutinized, I wasn’t “different.” It was the only time when I wasn’t routinely made acutely aware of racial differences.

    In more than one way, I considered my “home by the sea” a refuge, a place where I was able to learn more about myself as a woman and an individual without the constraints of race.

    I would hate for such an experience to be placed in jeopardy because of the pressure — largely brought on by financial matters — to change. These schools have a deeply entrenched historical legacy that should be maintained.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    @Shirl Please read before you write. We (hampton students/ her “peers”) dont vote its a panel of judges. Two from our administration and 3-5 from The Miss Virginia pageant.

  • currentHUstudent

    AS A HAMPTON UNIVERSITY STUDENT I WOULD LIKE TO LET ALL OF THOSE WHOM ARE MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT ALL THE BACKLASH IS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF HER RACE KNOW THAT THEY ARE WRONG! THE PROBLEM LIES IN THE FACT THAT SHE HAS NEVER BEEN SEEN ON CAMPUS AND IS INACTIVE…SO WITH THAT BEING SAID ….HOW CAN SHE REPRESENT OUR UNIVERSITY. ALSO, MANY OF YOU PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW THAT OUR MR. PIRATE IS WHITE AND JAPANESE, YET HE HAS 100% OF OUR STUDENT’S SUPPORT…BECAUSE HE IS IN FACT ON CAMPUS, UNDERSTANDS THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVE ASSECTS OF OUR CAMPUS, NOT TO MENTION THAT HE HAS TAKEN “UNIVERSITY 101″ AND HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO KNOW OUR HISTORY! SHE IS A STUDENT AT THE HAMPTON UNIVERSITY-VIRGINIA BEACH CAMPUS, WHICH IS NEARLY 30 MINS AWAY….AND PROBABLY HADN’T EVEN STEPPED FOOT ON THIS SIDE OF THE WATER UNTIL SHE JOINED THE COMPETITION. SURPASSING ALL AUTHORITY ON CAMPUS AND GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WAS DEF. A NO NO AND CLEARLY NOT WELL THOUGHT MOVE. ON A LIGHTER NOTE…WHAT’S DONE IS DONE…AT THIS POINT ALL SHE CAN DO IS MAKE HER PRESENCE KNOWN IN ORDER TO GAIN ACCEPTANCE.

  • currentHUstudent

    @Courtney…preach girl

    Miss HU should be a representation of the school..but I am learning that she just transferred to Hampton (VA Beach campus) this year. This is her first year at Hampton..not even on the main campus but yet she decided to run for Miss HU and represent an institution she knows absolutely nothing about. Doesn’t that seem a little strange?

    I think she wanted to be apart of the Miss VA pageant and she found her way in.

  • Brittany L. Pennywell

    @IknowwhereIcomefrom no we have NO say… but usually very qualified girls go out for the title they are usually an active part of our campus also…

  • IknowwhereIcomefrom

    Hmmmm I was gonna say to Sydney that HU should move forward and try to become more multicultured with the student population… instead of holding onto the past. BUT lol unfortunately I can kind of relate cos Im part Native Amcn and I know that if HU was historically Ntv Amcn I would want it to continue as best as possible. Then again, Ntv Amcns are literally becoming extinct and blended into other races whereas Blacks are flourishing just fine. Tough call.

  • Divine

    @Ms. Brilly

    @ Divine
    Someone mentioned Tennessee State Univ. White Students can get full scholarships to go to TSU because it is a State School and someone sued (using affirmative action/reverse racism arguement)because there aren’t enough white students and TSU has to do more to recruit more white students.
    ___________________________________________

    That shouldn’t be controversial. The same is true for some black students at predominately white schools. Underrespresented populations (black, native american, latino, hispanic, etc) at many predominately white schools benefit from scholarships, gift aid, etc as a recruitment and retainment method.

    ————————————————————
    To me it’s not controversial. TSU is an HBCU. And the only state school blacks were allowed to attended at one point in TN.
    So now that someone sue UT for not enough black students, in turn TSU was sued for not having enough white students.
    There should be 50% black and white. And therefore, eventually TSU will not be considered an HBCU.

  • Ms.EJ

    Goodafternnon to ALL :D and WOW at the selection of Ms. Hampton University.

    @JB- Good question too. Now, awaiting to read the reply.

  • Oh Well…

    interesting…if this was a black woman in a white school…everyone from NAACP to Jesse Jackson to Al Sharpton would be on TV whining and crying…SMH…where is Don Imus when you need him.

    reverse racism is just as disgusting as traditional racism.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @IknowwhereIcomefrom

    “BUT lol unfortunately I can kind of relate cos Im part Native Amcn and I know that if HU was historically Ntv Amcn I would want it to continue as best as possible. Then again, Ntv Amcns are literally becoming extinct and blended into other races whereas Blacks are flourishing just fine. Tough call.”

    This is a historical issue — There was a time when higher education was largely out of reach for black Americans, and so HBCUs were created to afford blacks the opportunity to learn. For generations, these institutions educated black professionals in a variety of fields and continue to produce a large number of black doctors, lawyers, engineers, and other professional graduates. These schools do not propagate racism — They were created because of racism.

    Other races and ethnicities have similar institutions. The summer before I started grad school, I lived with a few Jewish young women who were attending Yeshiva University, and there are other schools where students can mingle with people with similar cultural/ethnic/religious backgrounds.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “interesting…if this was a black woman in a white school…everyone from NAACP to Jesse Jackson to Al Sharpton would be on TV whining and crying…SMH…where is Don Imus when you need him.

    reverse racism is just as disgusting as traditional racism.”
    ___________________________________________________________
    :shock:

    Tell you what, I’ll wait for you to go find an instance for the 1000 plus of white colleges/universities that in their combined 10,000 plus years….. that ONE TIME where a “board” elected a black woman to be “Miss ______ University/College.”

    I’ll wait.

    You are right, reverse discrimination IS terrible. Not sure why you brought that up in this thread tho. SMH.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Daywalker

    “DAMN GOOD POINT!! So just because every person who goes to that school doesn’t know everyone else, does that imply that they aren’t good enough to be the queen, Sydney??? Please do tell us your take on this subject……”

    When I was at Hampton, the student chosen to be Miss Hampton was someone who was active in student activities on campus, and this was essential because this was a competition that required heavy campaigning and visibility since the students ultimately selected the winner. HU is not a huge school — in fact, the campus, in comparison to other schools, is actually relatively small — so it’s easy to get to know a lot of people if you’re regularly on campus and involved in student events and activities. The title of Miss Hampton is also highly visible, and that’s why there’s so much importance placed in who is chosen for the recognition.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    I think lightning just struck — I actually agree with Man, lol.

  • Black Diva

    This definitely wouldn’t have happened at my college Florida A&M University!!!! They danm sure wouldn’t have gave it to a white guy but since black ppl worship other races more than their own then what u expect!!!!

  • NOr*Cal

    Just think about it this way if it was a black woman who won at a predominantly White College we’d all be like YEAH! So why should we hate on her?

  • Oh Well…

    @Man, I just don’t care™
    :shock:

    Tell you what, I’ll wait for you to go find an instance for the 1000 plus of white colleges/universities that in their combined 10,000 plus years….. that ONE TIME where a “board” elected a black woman to be “Miss ______ University/College.”

    I’ll wait.

    You are right, reverse discrimination IS terrible. Not sure why you brought that up in this thread tho. SMH.
    *****************.

    what qualifies a school as “black” or “white” anyway? if there is a white student at a “black” school and she WON why should her race be an issue?

    I mentioned that in this thread because it IS reverse racism to treat her this way just because she “stole” the title from someone who was supposed to be black…unless I’m misunderstanding the situation. so if I am, please enlighten me.

  • Ms. Brilly

    @ JB

    SHe is in no way involved in any campus activities. So how does she represent the campus as a whole including all races/ethnicities without even having a clus as to what is going on at the campus?
    ____________________________________

    But if someone from the main campus had won, how would they be able to represent the campus a whole (especially if they were not familiar with the satelitte campus and may not have a clue as to what’s going on over there)?

    Is she really not involved? or is it that she’s not popular on the main campus? Now, if she won without being involved at all, then that’s certainly controversial. However, maybe she’s heavily involved on the satellite campus? She has to be involved in some way or else the panel couldn’t have chosen her (even if their decision was motivated by outside influences and she is a “token”, I would think that they would be smart enough to pick a “token” with credentials).

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “what qualifies a school as “black” or “white” anyway? if there is a white student at a “black” school and she WON why should her race be an issue?

    I mentioned that in this thread because it IS reverse racism to treat her this way just because she “stole” the title from someone who was supposed to be black…unless I’m misunderstanding the situation. so if I am, please enlighten me.”
    _________________________________________________________

    Historical enrollment by race and “mission statements” can be used to distinguish between “white and black” colleges. Although I agree with your underlying rationale that it doesn’t really matter.

    Exactly what way is she being treated? She was found to be undeserving of award issued by a board because she does NOT reflect the very school that she was “elected” to represent.

    Kinda reminds me of the “No taxation withour representation” of the early American colonies. She does NOT represent the school. SHE is the one that brought up race.

    I hate it when people “cry wolf,” as she is doing. SMH.

  • times two

    She was voted by the campus which is mostly “Black”, so she deserved to win, if this was a black woman at a white school, we would be up in arm defending her and her right to win, so all the hater out let this lady enjoy her win and embrace that we vote for the person on her merit and not her color.

  • Hampton U student

    I go to HU and i pay my $30,000 a year and it’s not even about her being white. How bout she should tell the media that she doesn’t go to the main campus. None of us know her. She goes to the VA Beach campus which is the equivalent to Devry online. Shes 24 years old and she pays $5,000 in tuition and the rest of us pay $30,000. How bout she tells the media that.You can’t represent all of us when you as an individual don’t attend the main campus or experience the things we have experienced as Hampton students. It was never about race. She made it that way and now she’s feeding off of it.She’s just looking for a free ride to the Ms. Virginia pageant. Maybe she should’ve given the student body a chance to get to know her before she went writing the President the day after the pageant. How are we supposed to accept her and we’ve never seen her before? She’s doing the most. This is to you Miss HU, Nobody cares that you’re white, nobody cares that you won, move on! We don’t vote, official judges picked her, not us! Obama has bigger things to worry about like healthcare. Stop looking for attention because when you get it your clearly upset by so move on!

  • HUstudent

    @ Ms. Brilly

    it seems as though you are under the impression that the satellite campus is similar in set up to other schools with multiple campuses, like the university of maryland or rutgers university. both of those schools have multiple campuses with separate and large student bodies. the hampton u va beach campus is contained in one building on the other side of the water. it offers three degree programs and is not a “campus” in the traditional sense. they don’t take part in our activities or organizations and don’t generally interact with the hampton side because that isn’t the intent of that school’s program.

  • Ms. Brilly

    @ Divine
    What was WRONG, was the fact that the panel of non-students, didn’t consider her lack of activity at HU, her knowledge of HU and participation and interaction with the students of HU when selecting her. As an HBCU grad, at my university we were required to know the history of the university. So not knowing is a big deal to me.
    THESE FACTS, makes her a bad representative of the campus and the figure head of the student body.
    __________________________________

    Are those the facts? Maybe some people are privy to inside information that I don’t have but how do we know that she doesn’t know the history of the school? How do we know that she doesn’t know anyone at the school (a previous poster mentioned that)? How do we know she isn’t active? I get that she’s not on the main campus and (it seems) the majority of people on the main campus (or at least those represented by their posts here) have never heard of her but does that mean she’s inactive? or does that mean she’s not popular on the main campus?

    I just wonder what the “facts” really are.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Ms. Brilly

    @ JB

    SHe is in no way involved in any campus activities. So how does she represent the campus as a whole including all races/ethnicities without even having a clus as to what is going on at the campus?
    ____________________________________

    But if someone from the main campus had won, how would they be able to represent the campus a whole (especially if they were not familiar with the satelitte campus and may not have a clue as to what’s going on over there)?

    Is she really not involved? or is it that she’s not popular on the main campus? Now, if she won without being involved at all, then that’s certainly controversial. However, maybe she’s heavily involved on the satellite campus? She has to be involved in some way or else the panel couldn’t have chosen her (even if their decision was motivated by outside influences and she is a “token”, I would think that they would be smart enough to pick a “token” with credentials).
    ___________________________________________________

    YOU ARE BATTING 1000 TODAY!!! I GOTTA CONSIGN!!! Well, Sydney?? COULD WE PLEASE GET YOUR TAKE ON THIS, AND THE OTHER SUBJECTS I BROUGHT UP???? THANKS!!

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    But if someone from the main campus had won, how would they be able to represent the campus a whole (especially if they were not familiar with the satelitte campus and may not have a clue as to what’s going on over there)?
    ___________________________________________________

    Ok think of the satellite campus as a an office building ont he other side of town. Just holding classes. No activities, no groups. Just a place to allow students with let’s say transportation problems take classes on this side of the water. So this building is like 30 minutes away from the campus. SO in all actuality there is nothing to be familiar with over on this side except that you can take some classes over here and go to HU. BUt the same is said about the other colleges/universities on this side. We have a nother higher learnign center that has classses for the other colleges to allow for people that live like 30-45 minutes away fromt he campuses to take classes without going to the campus

  • Wow

    Can someone please explain to me how this is possibly related to more money or funding? Seriously,I went to a large SEC school (AND LOVED IT) and I know how fund raising works there.
    But I fail to see how you all seem to think that her crowning will lead to more money via more white students attending. If thats the thought process then I am shocked that many of you are college educated!

  • Ms. Brilly

    @HUstudent
    it seems as though you are under the impression that the satellite campus is similar in set up to other schools with multiple campuses, like the university of maryland or rutgers university. both of those schools have multiple campuses with separate and large student bodies. the hampton u va beach campus is contained in one building on the other side of the water. it offers three degree programs and is not a “campus” in the traditional sense. they don’t take part in our activities or organizations and don’t generally interact with the hampton side because that isn’t the intent of that school’s program.
    ________________________________

    Oh okay, I have a better understanding now and can see why some folks are upset. But still, it’s part of the school and (unless I’m mistaken) open to any one at the school. I get that her campus is super small and isolated both in location and academics (that’s my assumption) but using that as a reason to negate her win is almost like saying NOBODY from that satellite campus can every win (regardless of how “tight” they are socially, academically, etc… and regardless of race).

  • Divine

    Ms. Brilly

    @ Divine
    What was WRONG, was the fact that the panel of non-students, didn’t consider her lack of activity at HU, her knowledge of HU and participation and interaction with the students of HU when selecting her. As an HBCU grad, at my university we were required to know the history of the university. So not knowing is a big deal to me.
    THESE FACTS, makes her a bad representative of the campus and the figure head of the student body.
    __________________________________

    Are those the facts? Maybe some people are privy to inside information that I don’t have but how do we know that she doesn’t know the history of the school? How do we know that she doesn’t know anyone at the school (a previous poster mentioned that)? How do we know she isn’t active? I get that she’s not on the main campus and (it seems) the majority of people on the main campus (or at least those represented by their posts here) have never heard of her but does that mean she’s inactive? or does that mean she’s not popular on the main campus?

    I just wonder what the “facts” really are.
    —————————————————————————-
    That’s what the students are saying from what I gathered. She said it’s because she is white.
    The kids say, they never saw on campus before.
    And that’s REALLY important in my opinion.

    If Satellite Schools are like the ones I know of, there are not campus/satellite activites to participate in. Because the purpose is for those, for being part time students or adult/post college age education or working students, can’t participate in collegiate activities.

    If this is the case, I see the kids beef.
    And I have if they have a problem, they should work to change it. But it’s not that girls fault.
    She didn’t break any rules.

  • http://www.highsnobiety.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/kanye-west-entourage-fashion-week-paris.jpg Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    This is probably the first time this young white woman has ever experienced the evils of racism. It’s something that “minorities” go through every single day!!! Imagine “us” writing to the president every time someone judged us based on the color of our skin!!! lol. Whatever.
    _____________________________________________

    @Peptostreptococcus

    LMAO!!!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @WOW
    “Can someone please explain to me how this is possibly related to more money or funding? Seriously,I went to a large SEC school (AND LOVED IT) and I know how fund raising works there.
    But I fail to see how you all seem to think that her crowning will lead to more money via more white students attending. If thats the thought process then I am shocked that many of you are college educated!”
    _________________________________________________________

    You sound like a buffoon. Look up attendance records and “National Recognition” for ANY SCHOOL. Why do you think colleges and universities PAY their athletes?

    SMH at the naivetè of some people.

  • %#&?!! will soon stop coming to bossip

    @ HO SIT DOWN

    thanks for the confirmation. i knew that money played a role in this girl winning. the school need the money and will sell us out just like the naacp, bet, def jam, etc.
    if the school is majority black women that voted, then y would they b mad that this girl won? UNLESS OF COURSE, THAT UR VOTE DIDN’T COUNT LIKE IT WAS THE 2000 AND THE 2004 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTI0NS?!?!?!

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    Wow

    Can someone please explain to me how this is possibly related to more money or funding? Seriously,I went to a large SEC school (AND LOVED IT) and I know how fund raising works there.
    But I fail to see how you all seem to think that her crowning will lead to more money via more white students attending. If thats the thought process then I am shocked that many of you are college educated!

    I think if you went to HAmpton and understood how HArvey plays the game then you would understand a bit better. You know how fund raising works at your school which is great but it’s not the same for all schools.

  • Oh Well…

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    Historical enrollment by race and “mission statements” can be used to distinguish between “white and black” colleges. Although I agree with your underlying rationale that it doesn’t really matter.

    Exactly what way is she being treated? She was found to be undeserving of award issued by a board because she does NOT reflect the very school that she was “elected” to represent.

    Kinda reminds me of the “No taxation withour representation” of the early American colonies. She does NOT represent the school. SHE is the one that brought up race.

    I hate it when people “cry wolf,” as she is doing. SMH.
    *****************
    but if you want to use “historical” enrollment and mission statements to distinguish between white and black schools…then don’t enroll a white student in a “historically” black school and vice versa in a white school…but then that becomes discrimination and racism…and illegal, right?

    also, if THE BOARD chose her and gave her the title then the students should take it up with the board and perhaps select a better board, or have better guidelines as to who qualifies to even run for the title. don’t you think?

    my point was if the situation was reversed and this happened to a black student in a mostly white school…everyone and their mother would be crying racism and it would become a national case. would it be “crying wolf” in that instance too? would it be because the black student is not representative of the school…or would race become the only issue? I know it’s a hypothetical question, but I’m willing to bet it would be ALL about race.

  • Ms.EJ

    @MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- I did not say ALL black men. I was raised by an awesome Godfearing man, my father who unfortunately has passed on (RIP Daddy).

    Also, I have awesome male black friends and had great healthy relationships with black men per se so please do not pass judgement or make an assumption though I can understand how my comment might have been misleading.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Hampton U student

    I go to HU and i pay my $30,000 a year and it’s not even about her being white. How bout she should tell the media that she doesn’t go to the main campus. None of us know her. She goes to the VA Beach campus which is the equivalent to Devry online. Shes 24 years old and she pays $5,000 in tuition and the rest of us pay $30,000.(My point is this: Whether she pays 30k or 5, the whole point in the fact is that she is paying!! PERIOD!! She isn’t stealing anything…If her parent is a military member, and chooses to take advantage of that, how is it her fault??? And let me get this straight, you are upset because the students don’t know her?? OK, And I suppose everyone who voted for Barack Obama knew him too??? Yeah right!!!) How bout she tells the media that.You can’t represent all of us when you as an individual don’t attend the main campus or experience the things we have experienced as Hampton students.(Ok, so by your statement, Barack can’t represent me because I was ACTIVE DUTY NAVY for 10 years!! Your statement by its very nature is subject to scrutiny!!!) It was never about race. She made it that way and now she’s feeding off of it.She’s just looking for a free ride to the Ms. Virginia pageant. Maybe she should’ve given the student body a chance to get to know her before she went writing the President the day after the pageant. How are we supposed to accept her and we’ve never seen her before?(The same could be said about any politician!!!) She’s doing the most. This is to you Miss HU, Nobody cares that you’re white, nobody cares that you won, move on! We don’t vote, official judges picked her, not us!(Apparently, you do! Hell, I can see that you are hotter than fish grease right about now!!!) Obama has bigger things to worry about like healthcare. Stop looking for attention because when you get it your clearly upset by so move on!(Perhaps you should follow your own advice???)

  • Just Me

    @ Black Diva

    This definitely wouldn’t have happened at my college Florida A&M University!!!! They danm sure wouldn’t have gave it to a white guy but since black ppl worship other races more than their own then what u expect!!!!
    ____________________________________

    FAMU…FAMU…FAM…Gotdamn U alright alright! I concur, I really cant see this happening there either. Especially with all the politics around FSU vs FAMU anyway.

  • HAMPTONIAN-MAN

    I currently Attend HAMPTON UNIVERSITY and I Feel that she is already misrepresenting our school by stating that we don’t like her because of her skin color. Our Mr. HU aka Mr.Pirate is not 100% black himself. If you were to see him you would think that he was asian and white. No one has a problem with the fact that a “Brotha” didn’t win.Because he actually was the best contestant for the competition.She is blowing this way out of proportion.So i don’t wanna hear this foolishness about racism on campus.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady a is my campaign manager)

    HAMPTONIAN-MAN

    I currently Attend HAMPTON UNIVERSITY and I Feel that she is already misrepresenting our school by stating that we don’t like her because of her skin color. Our Mr. HU aka Mr.Pirate is not 100% black himself. If you were to see him you would think that he was asian and white. No one has a problem with the fact that a “Brotha” didn’t win.Because he actually was the best contestant for the competition.She is blowing this way out of proportion.So i don’t wanna hear this foolishness about racism on campus.
    __________________________________________________

    And when we put it on yall in a few, I don’t want to hear no follishness about that around campus either!!!

  • Ms.EJ

    @MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- In addition, I DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING that I read especially out of some magazines…too many other sources and/or outlets to obtain information. I simply spoke on my personal observation from transitioning from being around all whites to attending an all black college.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Ok, so by your statement, Barack can’t represent me because I was ACTIVE DUTY NAVY for 10 years!! Your statement by its very nature is subject to scrutiny!!!)
    ___________________________________________________

    You know I hate doing it, but I am going tohave to disagree with you on this one. I don’t think the President should be commander in chief if he has never served inthe military. JMO.

  • PAM

    Didn’t she win fair and square. Give me a brake.

  • HAMPTONIAN-MAN

    OK NSU!..LOL…yall ain’t bout nothin anyway…LOL.sike nah.(its all Love)

  • white male

    I’m sure Obama will get right on this right after he deals with Iran’s nuke weapons, destabilization in afghanistan and pakistan, the economy, and all his other minor problems.

  • QT7HU

    This is a publicity stunt for hampton there trying to get more funding since alumni aren’t giving back like they use to. Also the student body did not vote for her. How can she represent a school that she knows nothing about does she know who one of the most famous alumni of Hampton is or which building was built by the native american students, or what is the oldest building on campus. Does she even know the name of the senior class that she claims to be a member of. How can she represent a school when she doesn’t know about the history.

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  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MS. EJ

    Elaborate on your observations from culture to the next. Also, define “worship..”

    SMH.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SYDNEY

    I just saw that you were suprised that you “agree” with me.

    You know what, deep down, you agree with everything that I say.

    Shhhhhh shhhhh….

    Don’t say anything. It will be our secret…

  • Ms.EJ

    @MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- I wouldn’t mind elaborating, but if I sense that a person is being sarcastic (SMH) or just wanting some kind of conflict rather than a healthy debate I do not get involved. I can spot a conflict or a smart mouth a mile away…what’s that saying ” I’m a lover not a fighter”.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MS. EJ
    ” I wouldn’t mind elaborating, but if I sense that a person is being sarcastic (SMH) or just wanting some kind of conflict rather than a healthy debate I do not get involved. I can spot a conflict or a smart mouth a mile away…what’s that saying ” I’m a lover not a fighter”.”
    _________________________________________________________

    Good, then that is something that we have in common because I also consider myself a lover and not a fighter. There is enough fighting in this world.

    Now, by all means please elaborate. I love to hear the perspective of others.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    QT7HU,
    wooooo I’m a QT6

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Ms.EJ

    @MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- I wouldn’t mind elaborating, but if I sense that a person is being sarcastic (SMH) or just wanting some kind of conflict rather than a healthy debate I do not get involved. I can spot a conflict or a smart mouth a mile away…what’s that saying ” I’m a lover not a fighter”.
    __________________________________________________

    NOW, COME ON NOW! You didn’t realize I was a smart alec on the Tameka foster thread??? LOL J/K!!!

  • tj

    Wow she has an extremely inflated sense of self if she thinks Obama should care about the damn Hampton university homecoming queen or whatever.

    And on a side note. black people are so quick to give white folks bonus points. Lets be frank she won because shes white. I bet UVA didn’t give there’s to a black girl… SMH

  • Ms.EJ

    @DAYWALKER-LOL- No, you just seemed passionate LOL.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    She needs to go and do some volunteeer work over in Bad News. Let’s see how long she wants to keep that crown.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    smh@this green and gold madness…

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    I do have a question for Miss Hampton — if she now represents the school, why didn’t she first talk to her fellow students before writing to deeply beleaguered President Obama? If President Harvey has welcomed her warmly, could he not have arranged for her to address this issue on a larger, more internal scale?

    I just did another Google on her name, btw, and it seems that the story is being picked up by more blogs and news sites.

    @Man

    “You know what, deep down, you agree with everything that I say.

    Shhhhhh shhhhh….

    Don’t say anything. It will be our secret…”

    LOL! Yes, I agree with everything you write — First Lady bashing included. Shhh. . .

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Lady A

    You will have on a green and gold scarf and hat and jacket and gloves at that game!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    And Miss Hampton has officially made the local news, as of around noon today. Here’s the link to the Daily Press article: dailypress.com/news/dp-local_misshamptonu_1013oct13,0,2260617.story

    Good going, Nikole! Today Show, here you come!

  • HAMPTONIAN-MAN

    @ Lady Architect……They clearly don’t kno its all about the Blue And White….Green and Gold??? I think NOT!…and Im (O Phi O 14)

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Ms.EJ

    @DAYWALKER-LOL- No, you just seemed passionate LOL.
    ___________________________________________________

    I’m a passionate guy….But, I’m all JB’s though!!! LOL!!!

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    This is from a mother of one of the runner-ups

    I spoke to the Dean who was responsible for the pagenat and per HER words, it was necassary in order for the school to survive

  • Black Diva

    @ Just Me

    You danm right FAAAAMMMMUUUU BABY!!!! RATTLER’S WILL STRIKE & STRIKE & STRIKE!!!! FAMU, FAMU, FAMU, FAMU, LMMFAO!!! That’s my skool!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    I’m QT, too. :)

    @JB

    “She needs to go and do some volunteeer work over in Bad News.”

    Is that what they call Newport News now? Awww. . .

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    HAMPTONIAN-MAN

    @ Lady Architect……They clearly don’t kno its all about the Blue And White….Green and Gold??? I think NOT!…and Im (O Phi O 14)
    __________________________________________________

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news but: ICE ICE BABY, TOO COLD, TOO COLD!! ICE ICE BABY, THA GREEN AND GOLD!!! THEY ARE GONNA KILL YOU GUYS!!! LOL!!!

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    JB…never!!!
    I will sit in the stands with a bunch of blue and white…lol

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Who trying to roll up on Daywalker?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    “I spoke to the Dean who was responsible for the pagenat and per HER words, it was necassary in order for the school to survive”

    Wow.

    OK, I need a pick-me-up. :(

  • Ms.EJ

    @DAYWALKER-HUSH LOL No one at least not me was thinking anything along those terms. Simple online discussions or debates :) but every site seems to have e-lovebirds lol.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    I always liked that NSU cheer, “we don’t drink! We don’t smoke! Nor-Folk!”

    But, of course, it doesn’t compare to “Rock the Blue and White.”

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “but if the distinction is made, that according to her she’s being scrutinized based on her skin color, and she felt strongly enough to write the P.O.T.U.S. then yes, it is about race. if the student body feel she should not have won this title at a “historically black” school because she is white…then how is it NOT about denying based on skin color and racism? also, why does she NOT represent the school? what does that even mean if she attends AND she won…by the SCHOOL BOARD??? she ran for the title, and she had enough votes to win…seems to me she’d be representative of the school…unless again, it means the school is mostly black, she’s white so therefor NOT representative of the school.
    as for “merit”…who decides the “merit”? isn’t there a board to do that? it seems the board in this case has decided she’s deserving of the title…so what “merit”???
    ____________________________________________________________

    Yes, “according to her” she has been “discriminated” agaisnt. How, I don’t know… I don’t think you know either since she “won” the title.

    At any rate, the point of contention with the student body is that she doesn’t represent the school for reasons that I, and others, have already listed. Obviously you don’t find these reasons relevant because “the board” has spoken.

    Since we both agree that this isn’t about race, I suppose you are support opening up the election to the student body and doing a re-election?

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    “Rock the Blue and White.”
    ____________________________________

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    OK, the story is also posted on AOL Black Voices and chicagotribune.com as an AP story. Once the story hits the AP, it’s pretty much national news. . .

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “LOL…so the “white girl” is doing the “black university” a favor???”

    Oh, brother. . .*holding head*

    @JB

    Just prepare for defeat. It’s all love.

  • Black Diva

    @ JB
    “I spoke to the Dean who was responsible for the pagenat and per HER words, it was necassary in order for the school to survive”

    Danm…. I guess Hampton is having alot of issues on their campus!!! I’m pretty sure this situation will decrease there enrollment status in black students this upcoming year & next year!!! They should have went on a recruiting tour like our skool did!!! Hampton University is dumb (not the students but the dean who said that)!!! They need a new staff there! Our new present did a clean house at our skool & got rid of all the dumb nuts that was fukn our skool up!

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Once the story hits the AP, it’s pretty much national news. . .
    _______________________________________________

    Rush Limbaugh will haev it on his show later this afternoon. But once it gets out, will they get the opinion of people about the real reason they are mad. Once it gets out nationally that Mr Hu is not black, her credibility is shot.

  • http://www.GOTSTRONG.com Southern University C/o ’96

    Who cares ? She chose to run and she was elected ! What’s the problem ?

    Geaux Jags !

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    “Rock the Blue and White.”
    ____________________________________

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
    ____________________________________

    PISSSSSSSSS Whups, I MEANT HISSSSSSSSSSSSSS LOL!!!!

  • Oh Well…

    @Man I just don’t care,

    Yes, “according to her” she has been “discriminated” agaisnt. How, I don’t know… I don’t think you know either since she “won” the title.

    At any rate, the point of contention with the student body is that she doesn’t represent the school for reasons that I, and others, have already listed. Obviously you don’t find these reasons relevant because “the board” has spoken.

    Since we both agree that this isn’t about race, I suppose you are support opening up the election to the student body and doing a re-election?
    **********************
    I actually DO think it’s about race.I don’t think if she were black her “merit” would be in question at all. comments on other sites from students do make it seem it’s pretty racists, since racist comments and insults are flying all over campus.

    re-election? just for this one instance? no I think that’s silly, if there is a BOARD in place that does the selection and voting. however…if the student body has a problem with the way the board went about about this pageant then perhaps they can vote in a new BOARD…I think that would be fair.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SOUTHERN

    what’s up dawg!!!

    JAGUAR NATION!!!!! You goin to homecoming this weekend?

  • Oh Well…

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “LOL…so the “white girl” is doing the “black university” a favor???”

    Oh, brother. . .*holding head*
    ***************
    Oh Sydney…don’t hold your head. that was PURE sarcasm.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @JB

    “But once it gets out, will they get the opinion of people about the real reason they are mad. Once it gets out nationally that Mr Hu is not black, her credibility is shot.”

    Of course they’re not going to get the real reason — the story is that a white woman is being discriminated against at a predominantly black institution. I don’t expect a mention of Mr. Hampton. Conservative TV and radio will have a field day with this story.

    I could scream.

  • Ms.EJ

    So, she was chose based on her race? is this some kind of reversed affirmative action?

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “LOL…so the “white girl” is doing the “black university” a favor???”

    Oh, brother. . .*holding head*

    @JB

    Just prepare for defeat. It’s all love.
    __________________________________________________

    I’m like Stevie Wonder, I just can’t see it Syd…Ya’ll are gonna get stomped…Just remember, ya heard it here first!!! LOL!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Oh Well. . .

    “Oh Sydney…don’t hold your head. that was PURE sarcasm.”

    Oh, OK, lol. It’s hard to tell sometimes on here — there are so many posts about how racist blacks are, i.e. “no one is more racist than blacks!” Okey-dokey. . .

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Daywalker

    Day, you went to NSU? Why are you rallying against the Pirates? :(

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “I actually DO think it’s about race.I don’t think if she were black her “merit” would be in question at all. comments on other sites from students do make it seem it’s pretty racists, since racist comments and insults are flying all over campus.

    re-election? just for this one instance? no I think that’s silly, if there is a BOARD in place that does the selection and voting. however…if the student body has a problem with the way the board went about about this pageant then perhaps they can vote in a new BOARD…I think that would be fair.
    ______________________________________________________________

    I think the circumstances were going to raise questions regardless of the person’s race. Usually where there’s smoke there’s fire and in this case it just doesn’t seem right on a number of levels. If you can’t see that then perhaps it’s because you don’t want to see it.

    Not sure why you believe in the “sanctity” of a “board” because they make “mistakes” and are corrupt no different from an individual (look at your very own Congress). This mistake is evident by the reaction of the students the “board” represents. But I guess they don’t matter since the “board” has spoken. SMH.

  • Ms.EJ

    oops chosen-correction.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Man, I just don’t care™

    @SOUTHERN

    what’s up dawg!!!

    JAGUAR NATION!!!!! You goin to homecoming this weekend?
    ___________________________________________________

    DIDN’T LSU BEAT SOUTHERN???? LIKE 14 to 6??/

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @DAYWALKER
    “DIDN’T LSU BEAT SOUTHERN???? LIKE 14 to 6??/”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Are you talkin bout…..
    BASEBALL???????

    LSU shouldn’t of let Southern score ONE run on them in Baseball. We pick people out of the stands for every baseball game so we can field a full team!

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Daywalker

    Day, you went to NSU? Why are you rallying against the Pirates?
    ___________________________________________________

    ACTUALLY, I went to SDSU, Syd…..But I don’t think that the Pirates are gonna win that one, boo!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Another irony is, the Obama administration is trying as hard as it can not to have his name linked to racial matters — and now, through no fault of his own, he’s now connected yet again with race. Thanks, Miss Hampton!

  • Ms.EJ

    At the end of the day the girl has been chosen, absolutely nothing we can do about it. Hopefully, she’ll be active on main campus, reach out her to her fellow peers routinely and make her school proud. I guess.

  • Ice

    SMH @ HU
    She shoulda gone to ODU lol

  • da jack

    students dont vote…its judges

    The best people never win pageants..there not supposed to..this is a political move..Miss hampton also competes for Miss VA

    & black ppl cant be racist..look up wat racism means..however any group of people can discriminate or be biased..

  • Oh Well…

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    I think the circumstances were going to raise questions regardless of the person’s race. Usually where there’s smoke there’s fire and in this case it just doesn’t seem right on a number of levels. If you can’t see that then perhaps it’s because you don’t want to see it.

    Not sure why you believe in the “sanctity” of a “board” because they make “mistakes” and are corrupt no different from an individual (look at your very own Congress). This mistake is evident by the reaction of the students the “board” represents. But I guess they don’t matter since the “board” has spoken. SMH.
    **********************
    ummm I don’t know if the “circumstances were going to raise questions” regardless. I don’t believe they would, but who knows. the point is moot and silly to argue over something that may or may not have happened. I just honestly don’t believe if she were black anyone would have complained so the situation would never reach this point.

    I never said the board can’t make mistakes…all I’m saying is mistake or not the student body should challenge the group of people who made the mistake, i.e. THE BOARD…not the student who won the title. and OF COURSE the student body matters…that’s why I said they should challenge the board, and re-elect a board that they feel is better representative of the student body.

  • Oh Well…

    @Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Oh Well. . .

    “Oh Sydney…don’t hold your head. that was PURE sarcasm.”

    Oh, OK, lol. It’s hard to tell sometimes on here — there are so many posts about how racist blacks are, i.e. “no one is more racist than blacks!” Okey-dokey. . .
    ***************
    no worries :-) I know what you mean. and for the record, I think there are just as many white racists if not more than black racist…and I think racists of all colors are just as ignorant as the next racist.

  • http://www.seeyouinmynightmares.com KING_KG

    WOW @ the grammatical errors from you HU students.

    I’m riding my white ODU education horse(SN.Got accepted by the way, didnt have my major) but anyways I think this issue is definitely deeper than meets the eye. My cousin is a HU grad, as well as several other friends that have attended/are attending both HBCU’s in the area.

    Underfunding HBCU’s is definitely an issue and after hearing negative comments about Harvey and not even being enrolled at HU, I think its his scheme created to get people talking about HU to essentially gain additional funds.

    Why would she(miss hu) omit addressing the student body but opt to contact the President? That’s not logical.

    This will get mentioned by the President briefly, if it does happen to go that far. Nothing more.

    http://www.seeyouinmynightmares.com
    twitter.com/KING_KG

  • Ms. Brilly

    This is from a mother of one of the runner-ups

    “I spoke to the Dean who was responsible for the pagenat and per HER words, it was necassary in order for the school to survive”

    What’s the source for this? I want to give the deans the benefit of the doubt and say that they wouldn’t be stupid enough to admit the shadiness if shadiness did indeed occur… but…???

    Maybe Hampton needs better leadership from the president on down. I still don’t think people should be riding on the girl who won because, whatever the reason, the panel gave her the win.

  • Ms.EJ

    Good Monday to ALL and enjoy the rest of this beautiful day :D

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Man, I just don’t care™

    @DAYWALKER
    “DIDN’T LSU BEAT SOUTHERN???? LIKE 14 to 6??/”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Are you talkin bout…..
    BASEBALL???????

    LSU shouldn’t of let Southern score ONE run on them in Baseball. We pick people out of the stands for every baseball game so we can field a full team!
    ___________________________________________________

    Oh, My bad..It was 10-2 LSU….Sorry bout that…..LOL!!!

  • Ms. Brilly

    @ da jack
    & black ppl cant be racist..look up wat racism means..however any group of people can discriminate or be biased..
    ________________

    Actually, according to the dictionary definition of the term, Blacks can be racist. And even if you take the social/psychological definition into account, Blacks can still be racist.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    This is from a mother of one of the runner-ups

    “I spoke to the Dean who was responsible for the pagenat and per HER words, it was necassary in order for the school to survive”

    What’s the source for this? I want to give the deans the benefit of the doubt and say that they wouldn’t be stupid enough to admit the shadiness if shadiness did indeed occur… but…???

    Maybe Hampton needs better leadership from the president on down. I still don’t think people should be riding on the girl who won because, whatever the reason, the panel gave her the win.
    _________________________________________________
    The Daily Press

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Oh Well…

    @Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Oh Well. . .

    “Oh Sydney…don’t hold your head. that was PURE sarcasm.”

    Oh, OK, lol. It’s hard to tell sometimes on here — there are so many posts about how racist blacks are, i.e. “no one is more racist than blacks!” Okey-dokey. . .
    ***************
    no worries I know what you mean. and for the record, I think there are just as many white racists if not more than black racist…and I think racists of all colors are just as ignorant as the next racist.
    _________________________________________________

    No Diggety!! ALL RACISTS ARE DUMBASSES!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Wait a minute — this girl has a WIKIPEDIA page! How did that happen??

    Oy vey. . .

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    How? Why? Pourquoi?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hampton does need better leadership, I agree.

    I think writing a letter that has now snowballed into a national news story does not serve any benefit to this student, nor her classmates. I still don’t understand what could have transpired in two days to convince her that this was the appropriate action. Now the school she represents is making headlines for all the wrong reasons.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Wait a minute — this girl has a WIKIPEDIA page! How did that happen??

    Oy vey. . .
    __________________________________________________

    It’s simple, somebody posted her one, SYD…Hell, I could have a Wikipedia page if I post it…You can edit Wikipedia too, so I don’t really use that as a reliable source……

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “ummm I don’t know if the “circumstances were going to raise questions” regardless. I don’t believe they would, but who knows. the point is moot and silly to argue over something that may or may not have happened. I just honestly don’t believe if she were black anyone would have complained so the situation would never reach this point.

    I never said the board can’t make mistakes…all I’m saying is mistake or not the student body should challenge the group of people who made the mistake, i.e. THE BOARD…not the student who won the title. and OF COURSE the student body matters…that’s why I said they should challenge the board, and re-elect a board that they feel is better representative of the student body.”
    __________________________________________________________

    “I just honestly don’t believe if she were black “anyone would have complained so the situation would never reach this point.”-OH WELL

    Why not?

    You know what, don’t worry about it. I guess no one should of questioned the reasoning for her election it since a board did it.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hampton does need better leadership, I agree.

    I think writing a letter that has now snowballed into a national news story does not serve any benefit to this student, nor her classmates. I still don’t understand what could have transpired in two days to convince her that this was the appropriate action. Now the school she represents is making headlines for all the wrong reasons.
    ___________________________________________________

    SNOWBALLED, OR SNOWBUNNIED???? LOL!!!!

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be Florida Gator…”)

    *What up people?!!!*

    @ Sydney

    SIS!!!! WELCOME HOME!! ;) You’ve been missed!!

    How is the holiday treating you?

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ JB

    *blowing you a BIG kiss*

    LOL

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    HI TRS!!! :wink:

  • Oh Well…

    @Man, I just don’t care™
    “I just honestly don’t believe if she were black “anyone would have complained so the situation would never reach this point.”-OH WELL

    Why not?

    You know what, don’t worry about it. I guess no one should of questioned the reasoning for her election it since a board did it.
    **************************

    the reason I said that is is because like you and so many others have insinuated, this is a “historically black school” so a black woman winning the title would not have been out of the ordinary and therefore a non-issue. but again this is just my opinion and not fact, so no point in arguing over OPINIONS.

    and yet again…sure if the student body feels that her selection should be questioned more power to them. by all means go ahead and question it, it’s their right. but address the question TO THE BOARD, the responsible party that chose her for the title. don’t sling racist crap around campus because that only worsens the situation for everyone involved. what is it I’m saying that is upsetting you? your last comment sounded kinda snippy and condescending.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    TRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s ok that you won. But I don’t know how much more that boy can take. He needs to go sit down somewhere and take a rest.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @TRS

    ♥♥♥♥♥ HEY TRS!!! ♥♥♥♥♥

  • http://www.myspace.com/crimiegangmusik snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    I foresee a book deal and a reality show.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    HEY ♥♥♥♥MIJDC!!!♥♥♥♥

    @ Daywalker

    Hey DAYWALKER!!!! Ima leave you alone even though you taunted me last week about LSU…

    @ JB

    TRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s ok that you won. But I don’t know how much more that boy can take. He needs to go sit down somewhere and take a rest.
    ————————————————–

    Girl that boy is fine (and FYNE–I just couldn’t resist)!

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Florida has got to lost to somebody.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Oops that would be lose to somebody

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ JB

    Florida has got to lost to somebody.
    ——————————————-

    SMH @ the hate.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hey TRS!!!

    I’m enjoying my day off, girl. How are you?

    @Daywalker

    “It’s simple, somebody posted her one, SYD…”

    But why??

    I’m very perplexed right now.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    TRS

    It’s not hate. It’s called moving up inthe standings.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “**************************

    the reason I said that is is because like you and so many others have insinuated, this is a “historically black school” so a black woman winning the title would not have been out of the ordinary and therefore a non-issue. but again this is just my opinion and not fact, so no point in arguing over OPINIONS.

    and yet again…sure if the student body feels that her selection should be questioned more power to them. by all means go ahead and question it, it’s their right. but address the question TO THE BOARD, the responsible party that chose her for the title. don’t sling racist crap around campus because that only worsens the situation for everyone involved. what is it I’m saying that is upsetting you? your last comment sounded kinda snippy and condescending.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Yeah, well most people base their opinions on facts. I WOULD question why you feel that a black college wouldn’t question the merrits of their “College Queen,” with out regards to race… but I doubt that it would matter much.

    You know it’s funny. I too doubt this would get ANY attention if the “College Queen” wasn’t WHITE. From my experience whoever would of won was going to have her merits reviewed with a fine tooth comb by the students. Just like EVERY YEAR.

    Not sure why you are pointing out to me that no one should of used racial slurs against her (or anyone else). And of course we agree that the board should be accountable. Who else were they going to hold accountable? No need to elaborate further on that.

    What made you think I was upset? Anyway, I guess I can’t control how you felt about a particular commment.

  • always knew

    WOW! SO much dramatization. I agree that she has a right to be able to win, but out of all those blks, she was chosen. I don’t agree with her being Ms. Hampton, but she was chosen…So….I dk…

    LMAO @ her trying to get Obama to come down and get on the blk folks. By the time his presidency is done, I wonder how much further blks (on a whole ) will be…

    I really don’t believe that this country will ever get pass race, skin color and/ or racism. i just don’t think it’s possible, everything is based on race, now-a-days… nice comments for both sides…

    love how syd LISTENS and agrees/disagrees without the name calling, would be great if more could follow suit.. :)

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ JB

    TRS

    It’s not hate. It’s called moving up inthe standings.
    ————————————————–

    Keep wishing baby!!!! ;)

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    There has been a lot going on so we are going to have to catch up!

    I knew that this issue would hit close to home for you. Have you spoken to anyone else at Hampton about their take on this issue?

  • EveryRace

    racism, prejudice, stereotypes, whatever are not just related to one race. being mixed i have been the focus of or witnessed various comments/actions. this is sad and stupid that people are still doing these things but it will never stop because it is not just whites doing it or just blacks doing it. it is everybody.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    HEY ♥♥♥♥MIJDC!!!♥♥♥♥

    @ Daywalker

    Hey DAYWALKER!!!! Ima leave you alone even though you taunted me last week about LSU…

    @ JB

    TRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’s ok that you won. But I don’t know how much more that boy can take. He needs to go sit down somewhere and take a rest.
    ————————————————–

    Girl that boy is fine (and FYNE–I just couldn’t resist)!
    __________________________________________________

    I BLAME THE COACHING STAFF!!! That being said, I can’t hate…They did go out there and win fair and square!! However, they screwed up by not trying to go for it in the first quarter and kicking a damn field goal….And to be honest, Tebow really didn’t look 100% in that game…He handed off a lot, and really didn’t handle business in my opinion….But hey, a win is a win, right??? LOL!!!!

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    TWIN!!

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hey TRS!!!

    I’m enjoying my day off, girl. How are you?

    @Daywalker

    “It’s simple, somebody posted her one, SYD…”

    But why??

    I’m very perplexed right now.
    __________________________________________________

    HECK, Why not? I mean technically, she did win, SYDNEY…….

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    I am :) that LSU lost.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Lady A

    I got an A on my essay!!!

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Daywalker

    But hey, a win is a win, right??? LOL!!!!
    ———————————————

    That’s about it Daywalker!!! ;) I won’t open up a can of worms talking about Tebow on here but you KNOW the boy wasn’t going to come out knocking heads two weeks after a concussion. He played smart.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Hey Always Knew! No time, no talk to. How are you? :)

    I just spoke with a friend, and she cracked me up with her comparison of how someone on the job may have an issue with you and will go to your supervisor to try to get you in trouble. This girl went all the way to the P.O.T.U.S. and associated her school with racism. Unbelievable.

    I can just hear her now, “these black kids are picking on me!”

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    TWIN!!!!!!!!!

    You’re looking good ma!!!

  • Oh Well…

    @Man I just don’t care
    Yeah, well most people base their opinions on facts. I WOULD question why you feel that a black college wouldn’t question the merrits of their “College Queen,” with out regards to race… but I doubt that it would matter much.

    You know it’s funny. I too doubt this would get ANY attention if the “College Queen” wasn’t WHITE. From my experience whoever would of won was going to have her merits reviewed with a fine tooth comb by the students. Just like EVERY YEAR.

    Not sure why you are pointing out to me that no one should of used racial slurs against her (or anyone else). And of course we agree that the board should be accountable. Who else were they going to hold accountable? No need to elaborate further on that.

    What made you think I was upset? Anyway, I guess I can’t control how you felt about a particular commment.
    ********************
    yes most people do base their opinions on facts, however you and I are talking about a hypothetical situation…so who know what the facts would be. I can only assume that there is a process that takes place BEFORE the title is given to any student…so those merits are reviewed prior to the actual pageant…so if there are 6 contestants, I’m guessing ALL six were qualified contestants. that’s why I don’t think merit would be an issue. and that’s speaking from MY experience, there are usually guidelines and qualifications put in place for anyone to enter a contest of this sort. so if there is a problems with the process and UNQUALIFIED people (like the winner) are getting through…then it’s funny that the issue has not come up until now, when a white woman has won the title.

    your comment: “You know what, don’t worry about it. I guess no one should of questioned the reasoning for her election it since a board did it.” is what made me feel you were being condescending…but if you weren’t then nevermind, maybe I was just being over-sensitive ????

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    Tebow is overrated and I think (hope)F.U. will lose in the Nat’l Championship game to Nick Saban and Alabama.

    That is all.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    DAMN, I’M HUNGRY AS HELL!! BRB…….

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “Have you spoken to anyone else at Hampton about their take on this issue?”

    Yeah, I spoke with a friend, and I’ve been reading comments online. When I first told her, I thought she was going to be ill. We both think there are going to be plenty of fireworks at Homecoming from alumni. To be honest, President Harvey has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way for a long time, and, to me, this is the last straw.

  • Tyty

    Why did they pick her in the first place? If the Black people at Hamptom are upset that she is representing their campus then WHY WAS SHE CHOSEN ?
    How is she a representative of the cultural picture at Hamptom University? and if she isn’t then WHY WAS SHE CHOSEN? AND MOREOVER WHY WAS SHE CHOSEN BY BLACK PEOPLE? In other words DON’T CHOOSE HER AND THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT HER.

  • Daywalker(I can pass anything on the road but a gas station!!!)

    Man, I just don’t care™

    Tebow is overrated and I think (hope)F.U. will lose in the Nat’l Championship game to Nick Saban and Alabama.

    That is all.
    _________________________________________________

    NICK SATAN CAN BURN IN HELL!!! OK, THAT BEING SAID, I’MMA GO HIT UP THE KITCHEN…..

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Alabama will lose to at least 2 more schools.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ MIJDC

    Tebow is overrated and I think (hope)F.U. will lose in the Nat’l Championship game to Nick Saban and Alabama.
    ———————————————–
    :roll:

    It’s **UF** sweetie. If you’re going to talk about us at least get the name of the school right. Alabama is a great team, and everyone said that they would beat us last year. Who brought home the trophy? Either way, it will be a good game.

    That is all.

  • NFLPLAYER

    Will you marry me? No this isn’t Lamar.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    Yeah, I spoke with a friend, and I’ve been reading comments online. When I first told her, I thought she was going to be ill. We both think there are going to be plenty of fireworks at Homecoming from alumni. To be honest, President Harvey has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way for a long time, and, to me, this is the last straw.
    ———————————————-

    President Harvey is a member of the board, correct? Just asking…

  • Lady Minerva

    This entire situation reeks of a huge publicity stunt. She will be found out eventually and if her motives are to indeed run for Miss VA, I don’t think this will help her chances.

    To all the current HU students/HU alum, does anyone know how long ago the panel overtook voting for Miss HU?

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    JB,
    I SEE CONGRATS!!

    TWIN,
    THANK YOU..HOW WAS UR TRIP?

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “yes most people do base their opinions on facts, however you and I are talking about a hypothetical situation…so who know what the facts would be. I can only assume that there is a process that takes place BEFORE the title is given to any student…so those merits are reviewed prior to the actual pageant…so if there are 6 contestants, I’m guessing ALL six were qualified contestants. that’s why I don’t think merit would be an issue. and that’s speaking from MY experience, there are usually guidelines and qualifications put in place for anyone to enter a contest of this sort. so if there is a problems with the process and UNQUALIFIED people (like the winner) are getting through…then it’s funny that the issue has not come up until now, when a white woman has won the title.

    your comment: “You know what, don’t worry about it. I guess no one should of questioned the reasoning for her election it since a board did it.” is what made me feel you were being condescending…but if you weren’t then nevermind, maybe I was just being over-sensitive ????”
    ________________________________________________________

    Um, how do you know that “the issue” of OTHER past winners being scrutinized hasn’t come up? Do you think there would a national debate if “Kesha” won the College Queen over “Tasha” and the students questioned Kesha’s merits???????? REALLY????? To add to that, do you think “Tasha” would write a letter to the P.O.T.U.S.???

    I realize that the board used some sort of rationale to determine that she was “qualified.”

    The QUESTION is does the student body agree with that determination. Apparently NOT. “

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    I’m not sure if Dr. Harvey was the head of the panel, but all decisions flow down from him — He’s the head of the school, and therefore, approved this process.

    @NFL Player

    Are you addressing anyone in particular? lol

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @TRS
    “:roll:

    It’s **UF** sweetie. If you’re going to talk about us at least get the name of the school right. Alabama is a great team, and everyone said that they would beat us last year. Who brought home the trophy? Either way, it will be a good game.

    That is all.”
    _______________________________________________________________

    Yes, we will see I guess. Not sure last week’s performance would cut it against The Roll Tide.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    My friend told me that other Hampton alumni are discussing this on Facebook, and they’re very displeased.

    I think I’m going to draft a letter.

  • southcentral chik

    I am currently a senior at Hampton University and I would like to put my two cents in as well. At Hampton U the winner of the title Miss Hampton is not voted on by students, but a panel of judges. Those wishing to compete for the title of Miss Hampton are required to compete in a pagent. I also would like to admit that yes, most of the uproar was about race and people began to use the “she don’t even go here” as a scapegoat. I will also say that over the past four years that I have attended that many things have caused controversy and this, like all the rest, would smooth over in about a week. This young woman was just crowned late Friday night and by Sunday morning I see a letter to PRESIDENT Obama (not Mister). She has now made the situation worse, of course there gonna be some nay sayers, but keep it pushing! She apparently isn’t accustomed to enduring any type of criticism. As a Black woman I have been attacked for all types of things, but did I write President Clinton, Obama, or Bush? NO! so in the words of so many others HO SIT DOWN!

  • it’s showtime

    sydney i thought you went to howard, i could recall you telling someone you went to howard, now hampton?? hmm OK.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @it’s showtime

    Nope, I went to Hampton. I did have a conversation recently about how both Hampton and Howard are referred to as “HU,” but I am a Pirate (stayed in Winona and Queen Street).

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    southcentral chik

    I am currently a senior at Hampton University and I would like to put my two cents in as well. At Hampton U the winner of the title Miss Hampton is not voted on by students, but a panel of judges. Those wishing to compete for the title of Miss Hampton are required to compete in a pagent. I also would like to admit that yes, most of the uproar was about race and people began to use the “she don’t even go here” as a scapegoat. I will also say that over the past four years that I have attended that many things have caused controversy and this, like all the rest, would smooth over in about a week. This young woman was just crowned late Friday night and by Sunday morning I see a letter to PRESIDENT Obama (not Mister). She has now made the situation worse, of course there gonna be some nay sayers, but keep it pushing! She apparently isn’t accustomed to enduring any type of criticism. As a Black woman I have been attacked for all types of things, but did I write President Clinton, Obama, or Bush? NO! so in the words of so many others HO SIT DOWN!
    ___________________________________________________

    It’s ok boo. This too shall pass, just like that ass-kicking yall will be getting from us in a few!!

    Teehee

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ MIJDC

    Yes, we will see I guess. Not sure last week’s performance would cut it against The Roll Tide.
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    Tebow will be 100% by then…so I am not worried about Alabama. I guess we can settle it on the field and then MAYBE all you haters will sit down and listen to us celebrate in silence…

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    MAYBE all you haters will sit down and listen to us celebrate in silence…
    _________________________________________________

    A Tenn Vol fan sit down and shut up about the Gators? Not in this life time!!

  • seedorflong

    this is not looking good on hampton and hampton alumnis right now. your school basically chose another race to be the winner not only because of her beauty but also political reasons, you dumb hampton student could have just not said anything other than CONGRATULATIONS and kept in moving.NOW the headline will read, IS HAMPTON RACIST??????

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Am I the lone Spartan in here today?

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ sydney

    I think I’m going to draft a letter.
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    I would enjoy reading your letter! The fact that she was not chosen by the student body really speaks mountains to me…I would not be happy either.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    Twin,

    CYE

    @ JB

    LOL!!!! Point taken!!!! ;)

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @TRS
    “Tebow will be 100% by then…so I am not worried about Alabama. I guess we can settle it on the field and then MAYBE all you haters will sit down and listen to us celebrate in silence…”
    __________________________________________________________

    Well I hope these alleged haters are put in their place!!! LOL.

    Personally, I would stack the line against Tebow and let him use his arm to try and win. I don’t think he’s a good “quaterback” per sè. Just that college defenses aren’t prepared for a scrambling QB more than anything else.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “I would enjoy reading your letter! The fact that she was not chosen by the student body really speaks mountains to me…I would not be happy either.”

    Yes, and it’s just bad timing all the way around with the negative story being circulated and Homecoming being around the corner. It feels like a slap in the face.

    Concerning the letter to President Obama, I assume that she wrote the letter online and that’s why it is now in public circulation.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ MIJDC

    Personally, I would stack the line against Tebow and let him use his arm to try and win. I don’t think he’s a good “quaterback” per sè. Just that college defenses aren’t prepared for a scrambling QB more than anything else.
    —————————————————

    OK.

  • jt

    black people are the most racist humans alive but then they love to play the race card

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @TRS
    “Personally, I would stack the line against Tebow and let him use his arm to try and win. I don’t think he’s a good “quaterback” per sè. Just that college defenses aren’t prepared for a scrambling QB more than anything else.
    —————————————————

    OK.”
    ______________________________________________________

    Do you agree? If you look at F.U.’s biggest wins Tebow usually has a lot of rushing yards. Games that they struggle his rushing yards are held in check.

    Now, I’m sure a lot of coaches are aware of this but don’t have the personnel to do anything about it. If “Idiot Savant” Les Miles can have a good defensive game plan I’m sure Nick Saban can. Just my gut feeling is all.

    What do you think?

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    TRS

    I have to agre that Tebow isn’t that great of a QB. Who did most of the throwing, Chris Leak. But he couldn’t perform onthe 3rd down situation.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ JB

    TRS

    I have to agre that Tebow isn’t that great of a QB. Who did most of the throwing, Chris Leak. But he couldn’t perform onthe 3rd down situation.
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    Tebow will win the Heisman again this year. What will you say then? Chris Leak did most of the throwing because he was the starting QB at the time JB. Come on now….

  • Oh Well…

    MIJDC,

    there are current students from the school…commenting above AND on other sites that the criticism was, and is mostly about race. It’s not like I’m pulling that outta my ass. it’s obvious that it’s about race. the fact that she’s “the first White Miss HU” is insinuating that it’s about race. or it is to me anyway…and yes, if Kesha and Tasha wrote to the President and posted their letter on Congress.org…I’m willing to bet SOMEONE in the AP would be covering it.

  • Former Queen

    As a former queen for a HBCU, I must say that I am a bit surprised at the comments from people having a problem with Hampton choosing a queen that’s not African-American. I do understand they’re concerned, as African-Americans, at times we may feel as though there is nothing that is truly ours…the title of queen to a historically black college was something that gave us that feeling. To have a queen of another race hold the title of a historical black college can make certain people feel a certain way…but realistically, if she won the title, it had to be for a reason. Miss HU and Miss NSU are the only two colleges in the state of Virginia who winning their pageant makes them a prelim winner for Miss Virginia- thus if the judges felt she was good enough to represent HU for Miss VA, she must have done something correct in the pageant. Perhaps the blame shouldnt be put on her, but rather on the other contestants who should have stepped up. Basically we have bigger things to worry about then the race of a queen, and more importantly, once the picture comes out in Ebony and Jet there will be more uproar about it…I think everyone just needs to realize that it’s not the end of the world. If she was the best then she deserves the crown…case closed.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ MIJDC

    Do you agree? If you look at F.U.’s biggest wins Tebow usually has a lot of rushing yards. Games that they struggle his rushing yards are held in check.

    Now, I’m sure a lot of coaches are aware of this but don’t have the personnel to do anything about it. If “Idiot Savant” Les Miles can have a good defensive game plan I’m sure Nick Saban can. Just my gut feeling is all.

    What do you think?
    ———————————————–

    I think that WE have the number one defense in the country. That’s what I think.

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Dueces yall
    Off to see my man Calculus about my midterm. UGH!!

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    Concerning the letter to President Obama, I assume that she wrote the letter online and that’s why it is now in public circulation.
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    I’d give anything to be a fly on the wall when they got wind of this story in the White house.

    Anyway, I think it’s unfortunate the amount of publicity that this story is getting. These days it’s like people can’t wait to holla “reverse discrimination.”

  • JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    Miss HU and Miss NSU are the only two colleges in the state of Virginia who winning their pageant makes them a prelim winner for Miss Virginia- thus if the judges felt she was good enough to represent HU for Miss VA, she must have done something correct in the pageant.
    ___________________________________________________

    But if it weren’t a prelim for the Miss VA pagent, I am sure she would not have ran either.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “there are current students from the school…commenting above AND on other sites that the criticism was, and is mostly about race. It’s not like I’m pulling that outta my ass. it’s obvious that it’s about race. the fact that she’s “the first White Miss HU” is insinuating that it’s about race. or it is to me anyway…and yes, if Kesha and Tasha wrote to the President and posted their letter on Congress.org…I’m willing to bet SOMEONE in the AP would be covering it.”
    _______________________________________________________________

    This young lady wrote to the President AFTER being interviewed by her local media. (Channel 13)

    She ADMITTED to not being the most qualified candidate.

    She transfered to the Univeristy ONE year ago.

    She was not invovled in any student activities.

    She was at a satelite location.

    AND she is white at an HBCU.

    It just doesn’t add up and I would love to hear the rationale of the board when she CLEARLY states that she is not the most qualified.

    At what point SHOULD students question the board? I guess they shouldn’t say anything if a white MAN won “College Queen” of Hampton either. Just what ever the board says huh? Even if it defies logic.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Bye, JB :)

    @TRS

    “Anyway, I think it’s unfortunate the amount of publicity that this story is getting. These days it’s like people can’t wait to holla “reverse discrimination.””

    Yes, it’s the term du jour, it seems. The story is also posted on washingtonexaminer.com, I see.

    BTW, someone told me to tell you hello. He’s doing well. :)

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @TRS
    “Do you agree? If you look at F.U.’s biggest wins Tebow usually has a lot of rushing yards. Games that they struggle his rushing yards are held in check.

    Now, I’m sure a lot of coaches are aware of this but don’t have the personnel to do anything about it. If “Idiot Savant” Les Miles can have a good defensive game plan I’m sure Nick Saban can. Just my gut feeling is all.

    What do you think?
    ———————————————–

    I think that WE have the number one defense in the country. That’s what I think.”
    _______________________________________________________

    Yes, and you have faced some pretty inept offenses as well. Any team with a remote inkling of talent has been able to score.

    The defense, based on talent, is average. I realize the statistics say otherwise.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    BYE JB!!! :)

    @ Sydney

    Yes, it’s the term du jour, it seems. The story is also posted on washingtonexaminer.com, I see.

    BTW, someone told me to tell you hello. He’s doing well.
    ————————————————

    AWW!! Please tell him that I said “hello!!!” Also remember to tell him what I said about whooping him through the streets if he acts up!!! ;)

    Oh boy, I can see that this mess is about to get out of hand. Fox News is going to have a field day with this story.

  • WordtotheWise

    jt

    black people are the most racist humans alive but then they love to play the race card
    ====================
    Apparently you really are very ignorant of life and the world we live in or something in between or too young to remember the civil rights, movement and the times in our history when blacks were being terrorized. Apparently you haven’t read a history book, because if you had, you wouldn’t have made such an asinine, stupid, ignorant comment. Blacks are the most accepting people on the planet. If anything, blacks are the most hated of the races and the race who hates their own more than anyone else. We love sidling up with white folks and others. Many blacks believe they are inferior to others. Before you make such dumb comments, I suggest you read a book and get some knowledge.

  • WordtotheWise

    Hi Sydney!!! I’m out for a bit. Actually I’m not going to even read the posts because they are predictable. I’m sure you are one of voices of reason as usual and will hold it down with truth.

    Have a wonderful day, sweetie.

  • Former Queen

    As far as the fact that she would not have ran unless the title was a prelim win for Miss VA– that’s something I do not know, I’m sure it may have something have something to do with it, but I’m sure it also does with the other contestants running for Miss HU. Secondly, the board is about 10 certified members of Miss American organization, if the school doesnt want them choosing their queen, perhaps they should do as other schools and have the student body vote for them. BUT if you’re going to be a prelim winner for Miss Virginia (thus Miss American) you MUST be voted on by certified Miss America judges. If the school has issue with her representing them perhaps they should take it up with THEIR SCHOOL BOARD WHO WANTED TO HAVE THEIR QUEEN A PRELIM WINNER FOR MISS VA AND THUS AGREED TO THE JUDGES CHOOSING HER.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ MIJDC

    Yes, and you have faced some pretty inept offenses as well. Any team with a remote inkling of talent has been able to score.

    The defense, based on talent, is average. I realize the statistics say otherwise.
    ————————————————-

    LOL @ you quoting stats and then trying to disparage them in the same breath. Name me ONE team in NCAA football that doesn’t have one or two cake-walk games in their schedule. I am waiting….

    @ I’ll Talk About

    @ Trs

    But hey go Florida .. if your happy .. I`m happy !
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    GOOD! At least you know what’s up!! LOL

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “AWW!! Please tell him that I said “hello!!!” Also remember to tell him what I said about whooping him through the streets if he acts up!!!”

    LOL, I’ll tell him. He’s a true gentleman. :)

    Any news on the other (exam) front?

    @WordtotheWise

    Hey, girl. :) I see you’ve made your entrance, lol.

  • Former Queen

    Also Miss Hampton last year had some issues that caused the school a lot of embarrassment…perhaps HU thought this was the only way for the school to redeem itself…just a thought….

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    Any news on the other (exam) front?
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    I am checking my score tomorrow. They are supposed to be up then…they said it could be 3 weeks so I am holding my breath…

    Pray for me!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “hey…weren’t you the one who told me a while back that LOGIC only gets you so far???

    I think we disagree…and I don’t want to go back and forth with you. I don’t think I’ll change your mind and I know you won’t change mine. ”
    ________________________________________________________

    Yes, logic will only get you so far.

    Not even sure what you are “disagreeing” about. She clearly wasn’t discriminated against (because she won) and anyone with two eyes and can read would question why she was elected when SHE ADMITTED that she wasn’t the most qualified.

    I think her “letter to the President” was just to garner more attention to herself because what was the point of it?

    It’s funny, at first you were claiming that it was about race but now you are saying it is the “controversy” of it all. Either way, something was/is amiss about this selection.

  • WordtotheWise

    Hey Sydney, yeah, I’m here, but only briefly. I knew by the topic, people were going to jump off with some foolishness, so I’m not sticking around. I find it ironic that black people get sooo bent out of shape when someone of another race is “insulted” treated unfairly, but these same black folks could give a care when it’s done to their own. As a matter of fact, they are probably the ones insulting their own. Many of us are truly mental.

    Sydney, I want to hear your take on this. I’ll check back later because I have to leave. Have a good one!

  • http://www.seeyouinmynightmares.com KING_KG

    good point i forgot about that^^

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Bye WordtotheWise! I wanted to talk to you about “Good Hair.”

    @Oh Well. . .

    “I think controversy sells, no matter what form it’s in. I think if a black student claimed racism it would garner similar attention.”

    Yes, I agree that any time racism is alleged, it tends to become a story.

  • Oh Well…

    @Sydney

    it seems real journalism is dead…and that’s sad.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    I will, girl! I’m sure you’ll do well. :)

    @WordtotheWise

    “I find it ironic that black people get sooo bent out of shape when someone of another race is “insulted” treated unfairly, but these same black folks could give a care when it’s done to their own.”

    OK, I know you don’t want to see “Good Hair,” but an aspect of this thinking was touched upon in the film, IMHO. Some of us consciously, and subconsciously, place other cultures above ours, and we’ve been taught to do so. We’ve been taught that it’s “bad” to embrace our culture — all aspects of it from our cultural traditions to our physical traits to our institutions. To me, it’s like a detachment from self — the thinking is that you have to reject or demean parts of yourself in order to prosper and to be accepted.

    There’s a line in “Good Hair” that really struck home with me — It’s from Paul Mooney. He said something along the lines that if “your hair is relaxed, they (white people) are relaxed. If you’re nappy, they’re not happy.” (I don’t think I’m quoting him verbatim, but you get the gist)

    I think that a number of us feel the push-and-pull of wanting to fit in, but to fit in, you are pressured to push aside parts of yourself. I feel like I’m rambling, but, hopefully, this makes some sense.

    Hey I’ll Talk About :)

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Oh Well. . .

    “it seems real journalism is dead…and that’s sad.”

    Yes, sadly, it is, or at least has one foot in the ground. When I started seeing mainstream outlets quote the tabloids as news sources, the decline was undeniable. And the financial toll on newspapers is immense — they simply cannot compete with the proliferation of online news, and their revenue streams are shrinking.

  • http://bossip I`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

    @ Syd

    Hey there you smart lady !

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SYDNEY
    “Dang, brother. I don’t think I’ve ever done this for you before, but this is a special occasion.

    *stands up*
    *applauds*”
    _______________________________________________________

    **WIPING TEAR**

    I knew this day would come! Now, if only you would CONSIDER some of the other things that I say!

  • Oh Well…

    MIJDC

    again…we disagree and are going in circles. so let’s just agree to disagree…I won’t see this from your point of view and you won’t see it from mine…and I don’t want to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, and I’m off to lunch. have a great day!

    @Sydney, it’s a shame when newspapers and magazines keep shutting down…and gossip sites keep popping up all over the net.

    I’m out for the day, have a lovely day!

  • Sanjor

    @Rose, speaking on Hampton, maybe you should enroll. You need to expand your vocabulary. I’ll help you fill out the application, and you can just put an X on the signature line, or one of these~~~~~~~~.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Man

    “I knew this day would come! Now, if only you would CONSIDER some of the other things that I say!”

    Let’s not put the horse before the carriage. I agree with you today, lol.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Oops, I meant the “carriage before the horse,” lol.

  • http://charlyndria.blogspot.com/ Ms.Caribbean

    This is one of the reasons why I didn’t attend an HBCU. There’s always a problem with funding and race. Plus they have alot of silly traditions such as the divine 9 sororities/fraternities, stepping. This is the second HBCU that choose a White girl to win their pagent. I think they are only doing this just to get extra money and attention. I don’t understand the whole point of the pagent. But from what I read this girl isn’t qualified to win at all.I’m glad that universities such as Howard, Hampton,and Spelman gave the oppurtunity of higher education to minorities at the time when other unverisities didn’t allow them to attend. But honestly, I personally wouldn’t want to go to a school that is majority Black.I would rather go to a huge state school with a mixture of people White, Asian, Hispanic, and Black.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @OH WELL
    “again…we disagree and are going in circles. so let’s just agree to disagree…I won’t see this from your point of view and you won’t see it from mine…and I don’t want to keep repeating the same thing over and over again, and I’m off to lunch. have a great day!”
    ____________________________________________________________

    WHAT IS YOUR POINT OF VIEW??? LOL. You have never stated exactly what it was. Just what the students SHOULD do and the like.

    Anyway, have a good lunch.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    *fanning myself*

    CubaLinda, I think you just exhaled. . .I’ve never seen “eggwhite” used in that fashion. . .

    @Ms. Caribbean

    “But honestly, I personally wouldn’t want to go to a school that is majority Black.I would rather go to a huge state school with a mixture of people White, Asian, Hispanic, and Black.”

    There are a number of Hampton students/grads who went to predominantly white/diverse schools all their lives, and a number go on to larger institutions with students of all cultures.

    Truthfully, if it wasn’t for my experience at HU, I don’t know if I would have made it through grad school. Because I was given a solid foundation of education and self-awareness, I was able to cope with some of the challenges of being at a majority-white school (I could greatly relate to Michelle Obama’s thoughts about Princeton).

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    :roll:

    Don’t start citing and referecing Michelle Obama in here Sydney….

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    Dang CubaLinda came in here and set it OFF!!!

    “White Meat?”
    “Snowflake?”
    “Egg White?”
    “Porcelein Hoe?”

    WOWWW!!! :shock:

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SANJOR

    Please leave the autistic and mentally challenged posters alone.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @Man

    LOL, please don’t start.

    @TRS

    Girl, I’ve never heard the phrase, “porcelain hoe.”

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    :angry: :mad:

  • CubaLinda

    @ Sydney & Fla Gator

    …and I was being nice about it!!!

  • Ann

    15 minutes please be up.

  • Larry

    Congrats I guess

    thelayoutspot.net

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ sydney

    @TRS

    Girl, I’ve never heard the phrase, “porcelain hoe.”
    ————————————————

    Me either!!!! At the risk of incriminating myself I will not elaborate any further other than to say that I made a note of that one.
    :shock:

  • Sanjor

    @Man, hush! lol Don’t insult the autistic and mentally challenged. I’m just helping Rose with her vocabulary and communicating skills. I want her to grow from fry cook to head cashier.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @CubaLinda

    “…and I was being nice about it!!!”

    You know the “blacks are racist” police are coming after you, right?

    @TRS

    “Me either!!!! At the risk of incriminating myself I will not elaborate any further other than to say that I made a note of that one.”

    Girl, there were all kinds of combinations in there. . .

  • CubaLinda

    At the risk of incriminating myself I will not elaborate any further other than to say that I made a note of that one.

    ^^^^^^ Ok, Gator, what are you plotting over there? It’s just between us I promise!!!

  • CubaLinda

    Sydney–

    I am putting on my armor right now as we speak, shut off all the lights (well the electric company actually had sumn to do with that) and I will be shutting down my server to avoid any cyber traces… In short, I never happened!!

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    Shut up Rose.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    CubaLinda

    ^^^^^^ Ok, Gator, what are you plotting over there? It’s just between us I promise!!!
    ———————————————–

    I was simply saying that you gave me some creative suggestions for later use. ;) Do you attend Hampton? I only ask because you were so passionate in your post.

  • DDub

    Well somebody voted for her and if folks don’t like it maybe they should get involved. Otherwise stfu.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @CubaLinda

    “This is not your lil sheltered world where mommy and daddy made you think the world was your backyard and it was all about you.”

    You know, I would love for some people to walk a few days in a black person’s shoes. I still can’t believe she wrote the P.O.T.U.S. after two days. I’ve been called the N-word, asked if “black people wash their hair” and other offensive questions, and subjected to other indignities, and I kept on pushing through life.

    If she thinks this is bad, try being aware of your skin color every day. Most people would crack under what African Americans have overcome for generations.

    “In short, I never happened!!”

    LOL!

  • LoveLefe

    Hampton students do NOT vote for Miss HU…so there is no “steppin up your vote game” please get it right!!

  • chaka1

    Hey..they let her enroll, she is entitled to be Miss Hampton. Case closed.

  • chaka1

    As the for the hair debate, I like doing a variety of things with my hair. I like the option of wearing it natural or wearing it straight. I don’t do weaves or wigs though…

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    I still can’t believe she wrote the P.O.T.U.S. after two days. I’ve been called the N-word, asked if “black people wash their hair” and other offensive questions, and subjected to other indignities, and I kept on pushing through life.
    ————————————————–

    Girl tell me about it!! This is a classic case of a pretty White girl getting a little attention and then running with it. Appealing to Obama was way out of line, but she got the attention that she wanted, didn’t she?

    What’s the most offensive question that you’ve been asked?

  • Sanjor

    @Rose,”what do you know about a female”
    ——————————————–
    I know the difference between a black female and a black woman and you are not in the woman category. Who said I was bragging? Your jealously is showing. Now, lets go over your vowels again, lol.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    Sydney,

    That last poste was for you!

  • Sanjor

    @Man, i’m sorry, I didn’t mean to have roseturd lock her pitbull jaws on you.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SANJOR
    i’m sorry, I didn’t mean to have roseturd lock her pitbull jaws on you
    _________________________________________________________

    It’s cool. I realize that Rose has some deep seated issues. Poor thing.

  • http://perryone779@yahoo.com rose by any other name

    man~ I dont have issues , i ust dont like you , like you said you hate me but yet everyday you keep posting to me or about me.. get a life and im not in it~! You are a everyday poster so im sure you dont have to post to me! 2and stay on the subject .. oh i will be just not with you or dog breath sanhoe~!!

  • pm

    the white girl looks better those all those hoes in the picture, she should have won.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “What’s the most offensive question that you’ve been asked?”

    The one about whether black people wash their hair was pretty bad. When I told my parents about it, they called up the girl’s parents to discuss it, and she wound up apologizing to me (she lived in my neighborhood, and we were childhood friends, and the whole situation threw me).

    What about you?

  • CubaLinda

    Sydney-

    Ok I have been insulted many a times, but do black people wash their hair is a new one for me… What kills me is that some Black people tend to forget or are living in denial about racism… They are always on here defending the Snow bunnies- who dont need nor want their allegiance..

    I went to Fordham U in NYC a Jesuit school… Worst decision of my life (well also neglecting that electric bill haha!!). But I wish I had gone to a HBCU. I took an Ethnic Stratification course in the first year that it was ever offered at FU, I had no idea that I was going to be used as the human subject in some research. It was ridiculous!! They talked to me like I was supposed to answer every stereotype for the entire Black race. I will never forget, one person asked me, “why do Black people sit outside all day?”… Let’s just two very nice men with flashlights and dark uniforms forcefully but professionally escorted me out the classroom…

    But these peoople can sit on here and salute Becky’s all day. I refuse!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @pm

    “the white girl looks better those all those hoes in the picture, she should have won.”

    Oh, CubaLinda, can you write a letter to this kind soul? :)

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    What about you?
    ————————————————–

    Don’t get me wrong because I have had a LOT of racially motivated experiences (you know where I am from). However, the most hurtful experiences have revolved around my skin tone/color. I had one White man tell me that there was “no way” that I could be “ALL Black.” I have also been asked by a White person during a conversation “where did you learn that word?” He was very demeaning.

    The biggest insult was back in undergrad. I took a nutrition class and part of the responsibilities of the class was to clean up after lab. Out of 50 girls, the professor picked me and the only other Black girl in the class to wash dishes for the ENTIRE semester. You know I didn’t let that stand…

  • Sanjor

    Bye Rose, until tomorrow. Practice your alphabet tonight.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “I had one White man tell me that there was “no way” that I could be “ALL Black.” I have also been asked by a White person during a conversation “where did you learn that word?” He was very demeaning.”

    Unbelieveable.

    When I had my first job at a restaurant when I was in high school, my supervisor told me that I sounded like I had “college-educated parents.” I was so stunned, I didn’t know how to respond.

    The reaction of some when you don’t fit the “stereotype” of how they think blacks speak and behave is always interesting to me.

  • Sanjor

    @Rose, learn how to spell.

  • http://n/a Keita

    She should not be upset. Yes, Hampton is a considered a multicultural campust because there are many races that attend but historically, Hampton University is a historically black college. 90% of the student body is African American. If she didn’t know what she was getting into, then that is her own fault. How can she as a white girl, equate her homecoming crowning to the first black president.

  • Nick In ATL

    The difference is this- the HBCU schools came out of a necessity- due to discrimination in the common educational sphere. I.E.- it was illegal to educate Blacks – whatever name we were called then. So, yea, it’s a little insulting that another race comes to the school and is elected. Just on premise alone. It’s not the same as a Black student at an- oh wait- there are no Historical White Colleges. I mean, by name. I mean, out of a NECESSITY. Get it??

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ sydney

    The reaction of some when you don’t fit the “stereotype” of how they think blacks speak and behave is always interesting to me.
    ———————————————–

    Exactly!!

    I was in IB in highschool, and out of our class of 200 kids there were only 6 Black students. It was a mess during discussions about race. You’ve read Ellison’s Invisible Man right? That’s exactly how I felt sometimes…

    “I am an invisible man. They can see everyone and ANYTHING EXCEPT me…”

    What kills me is when people say things like “you are so eloquent” and they believe it’s actually a compliment. Am I supposed to speak like a hoodrat? SMH.

  • COCO

    Congrats. People are always going to try to knock you down, plain & simple.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    “What kills me is when people say things like “you are so eloquent” and they believe it’s actually a compliment. Am I supposed to speak like a hoodrat? SMH.”

    In the eyes of some, yes, you are — particularly if they’ve only been exposed to certain deleterious images/portrayals of black Americans.

    I read an excellent blog post over the weekend from a writer who said that today’s depictions of us in popular culture are eerily and disturbingly similar to the portrayals of blacks decades ago in minstrel shows. In an unsettling twist, we have now embraced the very images that depict us as inarticulate, lazy, hypersexualized, etc.

    Girl, I have Invisible Man, and it is on my list, but I’m very familiar with the plot and themes. And if we don’t feel invisible, we feel that we have to work extra hard to be perceived as equal.

    It’s extremely difficult to describe the impact of racism to someone who has never felt it — who never has to worry about skin color being a barrier or a determinant of how you are perceived.

  • DThomas

    I for one would like to clear up somethings about this whole situation. HAMPTON UNIVERSITY DOES NOT HAVE A RACISM ISSUE. Ms. Hampton is not voted on by the student body, there is a committee of teachers who select her. Nikole does not even go to our Hampton University Campus, she goes to the Virginia Beach campus, therefore she does not know the majority of the student body as Ms. Hampton should. If there has been any negative issues focused toward her, then it may be because NOBODY KNOWS HER!!!. Her letter was written within 24hrs of being crowned. How can any accept you, if they haven’t even announced that you have one yet. Her coronation isn’t until next week, most people don’t have a clue who she is. I believe her letter was planned from the beginning of her platform. If we really have a racist issue, then why is Mr. Pirate not being scrutinized, when he is Asian. That may be because, hes actually goes to our school on our regular campus and he is known as a great guy. Maybe this female should take the time out to let people get to know her and see what she is capable of. She seems very fake, and has lost all respect from me and most of the student body, I’m sure.

  • trs (“It’s Great To Be A Florida Gator…”)

    @ Sydney

    EXCELLENT post!!!

    You should REALLY check out Invisible Man. It’s my favorite novel of all time. When you read it, try to look out for the signficant symbolism. Ellison is absolutely brilliant in the way the he addresses the Black Man’s plight in dealing with racism.

    I gotta run but it has been WONDERFUL chatting with you!

    Take care and come back soon!
    ;)

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @TRS

    I will, girl! “Native Son” is another favorite of mine.

    Same to you!

    Take care :)

  • Lady Minerva

    The more I read of this situation, the shadier it sounds.

    P.S. I also like how some are seemingly purposely dancing around the subject that her election, in and of itself, is screaming “affirmative action”. I fully expect Faux News to drag this story until there’s nothing left of it but a receipt of HU’s (and her) motivations. Then they’ll back down and act as if this never happened like they usually do.

    I feel bad for you HU students and alumni/ae. It’s a shame how the history of a great HBCU can be degraded for financial gain.

  • CaliforniaPixie

    @CubaLinda

    You ripped it up!

  • 1producer

    We are just about the only group of people suffering from existential apprehensiveness/angst, as a result of attentively observing mental representations/images that permeate society. So, HBCUs were established/founded, with a sole purpose/principle mission of contributing to the education of our people, and serving our community. With that being said, it’s appalling that an HBCU, would allow self-inflicted discrimination (by electing a white woman) to occur because their acculturation is more important than preserving their history.

    I guarantee that a black woman wouldn’t receive the crown if she attended a predominantly white institution. They’d prefer for their own to be a delegate/spokeswoman for their white establishment.

  • Whatalie

    It is very disappointing how this child has turned this into a white/black thing. What about the fact that she doesn’t even attend the University but attends a satelite school, in Virginia Beach. She does not belong to any organizations, and know one in the school knows her. That is the REAL ISSUE, not the fact that she is white. But the fact that know one knows her. The faculity voted on the decision for her to win not the students. What is her campus involvement? And the President doesn’t have time for this he has to run a country and get dying people healthcare. I’m sure she also attends the satelite school for free! When the black students are paying $30,000 per year. Child Wake UP, it’s not about you being white. The SGA President is not black either but you don’t hear the students complaining because, he is known and active on the campus!

  • HU Student

    I AM A STUDENT AT HAMPTON UNIVERSITY! AND WE ARE DEF NOT JUDGING HER BEING CROWNED AS MISS HAMPTON BECAUSE OF HER SKIN TONE, A LOT OF PPL HAVE ISSUES WITH HER BEING CROWNED BASED ON THE FACT THAT THEY FEEL OTHERS WERE MORE DESERVING OF THE TITLE!!! SHE DOESN;T EVEN ATTEND THE MAIN CAMPUS, AT THE LEAST HAD A MEAL IN OUR INFAMOUS CAFE….NEEDLESS TO SAY THIS HASS NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOR AND IT SADDENS ME THAT WE ARE BEING LOOKED AT AS RACIST OR WHATEVER….WHEN DID HAVING AN OPINION BECOME WRONG????ITS REALLY A SHAME THAT THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN TAKEN IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. HOW ABOUT WE GET BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY BEFORE JUDGING????

  • Sanjor

    @Rose,
    I thought you were gone already. Missed me huh.

  • http://www.oakwood.edu Stanley

    Why is anyone surprised! Black people are just as racist as white people! That’s the truth!

  • CubaLinda

    @ Cali- Pixie

    Like Syndey said… I exhaled!!

  • kandace

    I am an African American Hamptonian junior and I believe that this story is very one sided. Firstly the reason why this young lady is not receiving a great deal of gratitude is not because she is white but because she does not go to main campus…simply put nobody knows who the hell she is. She has only been Miss. Hampton for 3 days people so how can she even make such a bold statement that she is not being accepted. Maybe if she was active on campus, put together events, did community service on campus, joined clubs on campus and was well… on campus, she would gain more popularity and would not be looked at as a random selection. If all the people calling Hamptonians racist would take the time out to do your research you would see that Hampton students are not prejudice and are very receptive to multicultural backgrounds. As a matter of fact our Mr. Pirate (male version of Miss. Hampton) is not African American either! However, he is active on campus, he has performed in university plays and he is a member of Phi Beta Sigma Inc. She made a very rash decision on writing a letter to the president of the United States. A letter, may I add, that was clearly NOT proof read and disrespects the president by addressing him as “Mr. Obama”. She has not even attempted to address the student body with her concerns, or the president of the university. In my opinion she is making the university look poorly educated and is doing a horrible job as an ambassador to the university. She is the epitome of a very classless lady.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Does anyone know if the Administration has commented on this matter yet?

    Also, I know the likely answer, but did anyone in the Administration know that Ms. Churchill planned to write a letter to the P.O.T.U.S.? All indicators are that she totally staked out on her own after holding the crown one full day. She has put the school in the position of having to respond to these allegations.

  • southcentral chik

    Well apparently there was forum/disussion where she appeared and said that she reacted hastily and should have went through the proper procedures… Yes, you should have but you didnt. Girl, please go back to Va Beach and take care of your academic responsibilites as well as your responsibilities to represent my university, which I (as well as many others) pay $30,000 to attend with dignity and pride; you deserve it, right? Just dont get caught stealing from Target and let President Obama handle all the other issues he has to handle.

  • southcentral chik

    Aloha Mr. Obama! hahahaa

  • DEMI

    Now she knows what racism feels like.
    By the way, the black girls weren’t that cute.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @southcentral chik

    “Well apparently there was forum/disussion where she appeared and said that she reacted hastily and should have went through the proper procedures…”

    Wow. She only now realizes that?

    This is horrible on so many levels. She really did the school a disservice.

  • Jay the Real One

    I wrote a letter to the pope where my article?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @CubaLinda

    “I mean how much opposition and hostility could she have faced over 3 days?? Arent we just coming back from a long wknd?”

    That’s what I’m not grasping — Was her life threatened or something??

    I just don’t understand how you go from being crowned on a Friday to “I need to write the president about the oppression I’m under” two days later.

  • WordtotheWise

    @Sydney^^^The above message was directed at you.

  • WordtotheWise

    Sydney, the statement you made also explains why we are so worried about how other races perceive us.

  • dcgal

    Yes, I am one alum hitting the roof. This trick needs to be removed…ASAP.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @WordtotheWise

    Hey again, girl, lol. I’ve been so lazy today.

    “What you said MAKES SO MUCH SENSE and how true it is. We have been systematically taught to hate ourselves and that seed of discontent and self-loathing has been passed down from generation to generation.”

    Yes, we have, and I think it’s so deeply ingrained that some of us don’t even recognize how distorted our sense of self and those who look like us truly is. That’s why some blacks feel compelled to prove that they’re accepting of other cultures when other communities feel totally comfortable with embracing their customs and traditions and, yes, attending institutions that predominantly cater to those who share their racial/ethnic/religious background.

  • http://myrndelgado@yahoo.com umm.

    this is crazy to me.
    u know, i can completely see the underlying issue.. and i see that it’s an issue, but if I was president and someone wrote me to help her defend her beauty crown, i would laugh. There are SOOO many more things going on in his life (ie unemployment, North Korea and the middle east) than to have to go to a school to defend Miss Hampton. This is crazy to me.

  • Mock Rock Star

    I thought for sure 6am would had committed since she’s repping Hawaii

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @WordtotheWise

    “Sydney, the statement you made also explains why we are so worried about how other races perceive us.”

    Yes, a number of us have been acculturated (I’m borrowing that word, sorry, lol) to accept the “dominant,” i.e. Eurocentric culture, as superior to our own. Some of us have also grown accustomed to being seen as a “group” rather than as individuals, and, so, some (and I’m including myself) feel that the actions of some reflect on all of us.

    @dcgal

    After all this hoopla, I agree with you — She should step down. When students are having to defend their opinions on blogs, it’s a situation that has gotten out of control and is harmful to the school’s public image.

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  • WordtotheWise

    @WordtotheWise

    Hey again, girl, lol. I’ve been so lazy today.

    “What you said MAKES SO MUCH SENSE and how true it is. We have been systematically taught to hate ourselves and that seed of discontent and self-loathing has been passed down from generation to generation.”

    Yes, we have, and I think it’s so deeply ingrained that some of us don’t even recognize how distorted our sense of self and those who look like us truly is. That’s why some blacks feel compelled to prove that they’re accepting of other cultures when other communities feel totally comfortable with embracing their customs and traditions and, yes, attending institutions that predominantly cater to those who share their racial/ethnic/religious background.

    ***********************************************

    @Sydney,

    We need lazy days sometimes in our lives. There’s nothing wrong with that every once in a while. :-)

    You are absolutely right again. I remember a while back we talked about that fact that we are a people were stripped of our homeland, culture, and languange. Other races have their roots; ours were dug up and they’ve never have taken root again. Unfortunately, many of us don’t want to do anything about it when we are made aware of the problems. I don’t hold out much hope.

  • WordtotheWise

    @WordtotheWise

    “Sydney, the statement you made also explains why we are so worried about how other races perceive us.”

    Yes, a number of us have been acculturated (I’m borrowing that word, sorry, lol) to accept the “dominant,” i.e. Eurocentric culture, as superior to our own. Some of us have also grown accustomed to being seen as a “group” rather than as individuals, and, so, some (and I’m including myself) feel that the actions of some reflect on all of us.
    ****************************************
    Yes, historically this has always been an issue and a pet peeve with me. It reflects on the fact that we are more screwed up than we want to admit because when we know the truth and don’t do anything to correct it, that is a sign that we might be comfortable being who we are. No other race does this but us.

    Note: by saying “we” I don’t mean the whole races because there are people fighting to change the way we perceive ourselves.

  • whenkeepingitrealgoeswrong

    SINCE I KNOW NIKOLE AND AM FROM VA BEACH, I’D LIKE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE THINGS UP HERE:

    1. She just ran. She didn’t vote herself in. She shouldn’t be scrutinized for being crowned. HU Admin should be.

    2. My problem w/ her winning is that she is not only a transfer as she attended @ least a couple of years at VCU, but as someone has pointed out, she also attends the Virginia Beach satellite “campus” (it’s just one building) as opposed to the Hampton, Va campus…a good 35-40 mins away. It’s mostly white. Probably most of the girls in competition with her attended the main campus ALL four years so I’d say that should be a main point of contention–NOT HER RACE.

    3. Also pointed out by someone, the student body doesnt vote in this election, the administration does. It’s their responsibility to pick someone they feel their student body would be proud to have represent them. If students disagree, it seems the admin at Hampton need to be more considerate and aware of their student body’s true feelings. Who knows? Maybe they did this b/c she was the best candidate….but probably to seem more diverse or something.Idk. Does seem shady.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @WordtotheWise

    “Unfortunately, many of us don’t want to do anything about it when we are made aware of the problems. I don’t hold out much hope.”

    I think those who get it/have gotten it will continue to do so — Those who don’t get it, never did.

    We’ve always had lost ones in the community, and then there are others who seek change and an amelioration of our condition. I only hope that those who do “get it” will continue to labor as leaders.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @WordtotheWise

    “No other race does this but us.”

    But I think we have to remember that no other race has had our experience over centuries of oppression. Other races/ethnicities have also suffered great hardships, but when I think of what our ancestors endured — being ripped from their homelands, language, customs and traditions, families — and then freed without any real tools for building new lives, it’s a miracle, really, that we were able to survive. However, I think we desperately needed then and still need psychological healing and reinvention. There’s a reason why these pathologies persist — There was a period when we weren’t even considered fully human. I still cannot truly grasp how much trauma our predecessors lived through. There’s a lot of residual pain we still have not faced.

  • CubaLinda

    Sydney– You know this girl has just been looking for a reason… But this thread makes it obvious that some of us just dont have any pride in race/ culture. How can anyone empathize with a person who is exploiting the school & students by making such a negative statement.

  • kley

    Why did this woman not get told to sit down?

    I cannot believe she can be so insulting as to ask the president of her country to endorse her the trifling quibbles over little beauty contest win. Who cares??? It’s a beauty contest. They demean women and shouldn’t exist in the first place. I’m not surprised people are complaining about her. It has nothing to do with her skin colour and everything to do with her narcissism. My goodness, of all the things the president has to direct his attention to (oh say world hunger, conflict in the middle east, dealing with the racist responses to his nobel prize win to name a few examples), for her to even think that she deserves his intervention in this is really outrageous. This really sickens me! She needs to be dethroned for writing that idiotic letter.

  • kley

    *endorse her in the trifling quibbles over her beauty contest win.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @CubaLinda

    “But this thread makes it obvious that some of us just dont have any pride in race/ culture.”

    You’re right — Some of us don’t. I would be dishonest if I said it didn’t bother or that there are people who intentionally try to denigrate others that look like them, but those individuals are going to continue to be lost. It doesn’t matter what you say to them (in fact, I believe a number of them like the negative attention their words provoke — it’s like some ego boost), they’re not going to change.

    What is the saying, you can’t change others, you can only change yourself?

  • intrigued

    This whole situation seems to be getting worse by the minute. I am not even a student of HU and the more I find out about the situation the more it begins to bother me. This young lady seems to be all about making a name for herself. Just did a quick search on her name and apparently she made a bid at being VCU’s Homecoming Queen a few years back.

  • kley

    And she had the audacity to categorise it as a civil rights issue!

  • WordtotheWise

    @Sydney,

    I agree with everything you said. You really have great insight!

    I gotta go now. You have a wonderful evening, you hear, and thank you for your wise, thoughtful and intelligent approach. It’s a breathe of fresh air.

    Bye :-)

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @intrigued

    That’s an interesting tidbit. I guess she achieved her objective.

    @WordtotheWise

    Same to you!

    Have a wonderful evening, too. :)

  • Candy Barr

    Black folks at Hampton are known for holding skin color against each other, so I don’t see why that would change for a white chick.

  • http://uneejah@aol.com z queen of bossip

    @MAN> LOOK AT YOUR LAST POST AT 9:PM AND ITS OBVIOUS THE WOMAN HAS BEEN GONE, MAN/SANJOR GROW UP YOU KNOW YOU HAVE NO HUBBY AND YOU ON HERE AT 9:PM BLOGGING TO ONE THAT IS NOT ON HERE ABOUT MISS ME, YOU ARE SO SO SO SAD>

  • Nancy

    It’s cool that she won and all but how petty is it to write a letter to the President, if the President was still George Bush she would not had wrote a dang on letter. DUMB!!!!

  • Katrice

    i want to congratulate her on her win. i am a hampton university student. i would like to say that i did not oppose to her winning. but i would like to say that i feel that she took things out of proportion, by writing to PRESIDENT OBAMA. with any competition there is going to be opposition. She did not even let the weekend go by before she jumped to the idea that people did not like her because she was not black. Honestly, i haven’t heard one thing around campus about people opposing to her win, because of her color. Rather because she does not attend the main campus and isn’t well known.

  • Why? are you so against your own people?

    @ Why?

    Your level of internalized racial inferiority truly pains me. It’s really just sad. I think it would do you a world of good to attend an Undoing Racism or Anti-Racism workshop to learn something about the history of this country.

    Institutional racism is alive and well in this country and it is not the fault of Blacks that racism (institutional or otherwise) is alive and well. Please educate yourself dear and maybe you can begin to actually love yourself.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Well, I just checked the Daily Press site, and the article has been updated with some very interesting info. As all the current HU students said here, they, indeed, had no vote in this year’s Miss Hampton contest. Excerpt below:

    This year’s pageant included evening gown, swimsuit and talent competitions. Churchill won a $1,500 scholarship, will serve as homecoming queen Oct. 24 and continues on to the 2010 Miss Virginia pageant.

    Maye said the Miss HU pageant grew out of the former homecoming queen competition, in which students voted for the winner. Now, the pageant winner is selected by judges and automatically serves as the university’s homecoming queen.

    This year’s pageant was judged by five people, including two certified by the Miss Virginia competition, which leads to the Miss America pageant. The other judges were Joan Gentry, an HU counselor for freshman studies; Lorraine Bell, an HU music professor; and Henry Mills, a senior vice president

  • Steph

    I know Nickole personally. We grew up down the street from one another, went to the same middle and high school, hell rode the same school bus. And she is a beautiful, honest, down to earth woman. If she won the crown, it’s because her fellow students saw all of that in her. And if she didn’t deserve the crown, take it up with the students who voted for her. Hell, she’s only HALF white. She’s half Italian, half Guamanian and she was born in Hawaii. So learn the facts about people before you make judgments about a person.
    As for the letter to Obama, do you know how many idiots write to Obama for stupid mess?! All she tried to do is promote change on her campus. Why call her names for that?

  • Really???

    This is a goddamn shame, why would she be the golden child chosen?

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    @6am

    “and she didnt need emergency weave strands before the competition started, case closed.”

    When do you retire again? The shucking and jiving is too much now.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    I HAD TO READ OVER THIS POST BEFORE BED SINCE I AM A PROUD HU ALUM, BUT MOST OF THESE RESPONSES ARE WAY OFF COURSE!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    “As for the letter to Obama, do you know how many idiots write to Obama for stupid mess?!”

    I’m sure there are lots of them — and she has joined their ranks.

    “All she tried to do is promote change on her campus.”

    I still don’t understand how she was “persecuted” so much over a two-day span to the point that she felt she had to be a change agent for a school of highly intelligent and aware students. Does she consider herself to be the “Great White Hope?”

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    Sydney™

    Why’re racist against your own kind? You can’t fool me. You type white, so you must be one of those wiggers who’s ashamed to be white.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    I AM SUPPOSED TO BE INSULTED BY THE COMMENT? PLEASE GIVE IT A REST SWEETIE AND GET YOUR SELF-ESTEEM RIGHT!

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    Lady Architect

    Dang, you try and compliment you colored gals and whaddaya get? Hostility. Is it any wonder why y’all have such a hard time keeping your black men? Clean up your attitude and hopefully y’all be able to hold on to em’ so they won’t be coming after all the fine white women.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    THERE IS NOT A WHITE GIRL OUT THERE WHO INTIMIDATES ME..I AM CONFIDENT IN WHO I AM AND WHAT I OFFER IN A RELATIONSHIP. BESIDES, I HAVE A BF.

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    WHEN I AM IN THE MOOD I LET HIM TAKE CONTROL..HE LOVES TO PLAY WITH MY TWINS!

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    Lady Architect

    Ok, maybe it’s my imagination, or the rum, but are we having a moment?

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    ARE YOU TOUCHING YOURSELF..LOL

  • KK

    I just have to wonder how it is that she can represent a student body that she has no connection to?

    We have a few white people on our campus and had any of them run for Ms. Hampton and deserved the crown because they were better than the rest of the contestants, then i really don’t think there would be a problem. However, she hasn’t been a part of the experience that makes those who attend Hampton for 4+ years and graduate from Hampton “Hamptonians”

    She is really a STRANGER to the student body and for most people the pageant was the first time seeing/meeting her

  • Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    OK IT IS WAYYY PAST MY BED TIME..I HAVE TO BE AT WORK EARLY. SWEET DREAMS!

  • MikeL

    She doesnt attend the main campus of Hampton University nor does she pay the same tuition as main campus students. No one knows who she is. It is not because she is white that Hampton Students have a problem. If it had been one of our white volleyball players who won it wouldnt of been a big deal.

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    AffirmativeA

    Right on, brother! We should build a shrine to Nikole Churchill. Her historic accomplishment has single-handedly tore down the walls of APARTHEID that has tainted the hallowed halls of Hampton for many of year. Hopefully with her landmark victory, the other HBCU’s will follow suit and crown more beautiful ivory goddesses as their queens. MLK’s dream is finally coming true. FREE AT LAST! FREE AT LAST, GAWD ALMIGHTY, WE’S FREE AT LAST!

  • Black Female but NOT the BITTER kind

    If she look better and did better in the pagaent then she deserves the crown. Black peoople stop the double standard. You cant have your chicken wings and eat them too.

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    Black Female but NOT the BITTER kind

    Considering most of these bitter black jezebels waistlines, it would seem not only they can, but do eat them chicken wings – BY THE TROUGH!

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    dcgal

    Shouldn’t you be checking your HIV status, seeing that D.C. is a hotbed for AIDS? You sound jealous and bitter. Show some respect for Nikole Churchill, she’s the Rosa Parks of HBCU’s, so don’t hate, congratulate.

  • I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    dcgal

    I see with that dirty soul of yours, HIV wouldn’t stand a chance of infecting you. Damn shame, you carrying all the bitterness because Nikole Churchill is a daily reminder that most of you bitter black gutta snakes will always be the bridesmaid, but never the bride.

  • TRUTH

    if we as black people are expecting other people to stop acting like racists, then WE HAVE TO STOP ACTING LIKE RACISTS!

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    a white male prospective

    First off, she is outside of her mind to even surmise that our president and her have anything in common. Mr. Obama is the first qualified leader we have had since Clinton and President Obama will be the most important leader of our generation. This woman also disrespects’ the office of president by thinking that Mr. Obama (who has to essentially save our country) has anytime for her own personal problems. With that being said, it just shows how narrow minded she is and this in itself does not bode well. All and all I hope she has one heck of a personality to represent an institution with as much history and prestige as Hampton because she is definitely not the best looking girl in that photo by a long shot.

  • alumni

    im an hu alumni and i think the students are over-reacting. so shes white? who cares! hu has white students: there was a white boy in my department a few years under me and he got along fine. from what i heard of the pageant, she was the best contestant; a lot of my friends said the caliber of girls just wasnt that high this year so its not nikole’s fault if she was better. people are tryna say theyre mad bc she didnt participate in activities and nobody knew her on campus. nobody knew shannon cooper the 08-09 miss hu either and she was a great queen. she didnt participate in any campus events before entering the pageant and no one had a problem with her… plain and simple, ppl r pissed bc shes white and they need to stop being hypocritical. they would DIE if there was a huge backlash over a black queen at a white school. theyd cry “racism” all over the place. this has nothing to do with hu selling out or prez harvey tryna get attention. its a pagaent and the girl who won happened to be white. thats it.

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    I just found this on HU’s blog — Apparently, Miss Hampton has had a change of heart:

    Statement from Miss Hampton University

    I am honored to be the winner of the Miss Hampton University Pageant that was held on Friday, October 9, 2009. On Sunday, October 11, 2009 I posted a letter to President Obama saying that my win was not widely accepted on campus. I have now come to regret writing this letter and disappointing the very students that I now represent. I took the comments of a few and blew it out of proportion. In reality, all comments that have been directed towards me and the reception I received at the Hampton University versus Howard University football game on Saturday, October 10, 2009 were genuinely supportive. Today, I met with student leaders and other elected student officials and they were also supportive. Hampton University has always promoted diversity. In fact Hampton University pioneered American Indian education and has embraced diversity since its inception. I truly apologize to all students, faculty, staff and alumni. It was absolutely not my intention to bring negative attention to the University. I deeply apologize for any misunderstandings that this may have caused and I look forward to working with my fellow students to promote the Hampton University legacy.

    Nikole Churchill
    Miss Hampton University 2009-2010

  • The fwesh pwince™

    HU!

  • http://www.bossip.com PhillyinDubai

    zzzz

  • britneybritney

    SMH at “lil Obama”.
    “I’m so glad I go to Howard U…and NOT the INSTITUTE!!” This is a shame.

  • what that?

    and what? you won and what to you expect!!! not black and at a african american school..case closed!!

  • Bria

    i mean let us have are thing for once, im sure she could of entered a white pagent , damn blk people cnt have nuthin 2 ourselves SMMFH!!!!

  • http://yahoo.com BLAKCHIC

    TEAM CUBALINDA!

  • Just Sayin

    Dammmmmmmmm

    It’s just like white people who are mad at black people because Obama got elected!

    Who do they think voted for her? Dumb asses…!

    Higher education sure is lacking!

  • NewOrleansBaby

    She sounds stupid now, after you release something especially to the president you stick with. Now she crying wolf, how dumb.

  • Hampton Studnt

    I am a junior at Hampton University and I am very upset with the response that we are getting as a whole. We are not racist we just know nothing about her, and than it hurt us more when she played the race card and tried to make it seem as though we are not accepting diversity. She never gave us a chance to accept her or even get to know her. So please I ask that you do not judge us without knowing the full story. You have to remember that you are on the outside looking in.

  • Aviator

    It is interesting to see that Caucasians do not have a monopoly on racism. I tried to read all of the comments, but there were so many on this event … an event that would be a non-event at UVA or W&M if the skin colors were reversed. Perhaps, it is time to desegregate schools like HU. After all, isn’t Jim Crow dead at least in the world of education or is there now a standard of James Crow?

  • cc

    Well she has written an apology to the Hamptom Community for the ignorant letter. The trip is.. she doesn’t reside on campur or attend Hampton University she attends their off campus school. I wonder how much money her family donated to Hampton U. This is really suspect.

  • Kimblee

    @Sydney

    “And this is a very different situation than the valedictorian at Morehouse who earned that distinction based on his academic standing.”

    No shit. It was a BEAUTY contest!! Not much smarts involved… Get over it!
    A white girl from (GASP!) a satellite campus won a beauty contest at your alma mater… And that’s why you’re so worked up?? Please, woman. Im sure that there are many more important causes that you can stick your annoying nose in.

  • jay

    shes not full white shes mixed Her mother is of Italian ancestry and her father is from Guam.

    these people should stop hating on the girl. if this was the other way around us black people would say thats racist so in this case this is racist too cause black people hating on her cause shes white.

    i bet you Rush Limbaugh will love this now.

  • wifey06

    she over hyped up everything. In 24 hourse she has had too much to deal withadn can’t handle it and Obama should pay her a special visit?

    Here we go…

    no sympathy for her hear. i am glad she will expereince the whole black experience andnot just goingto school with black boys for cheap tuition. Then she can really reperesent the black expepreince as the Black homecoming queen. Blackf folks go though it repeatedly and she is overwhelmed by 24 hours….boy they don’t make them strong!!!

  • Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    Kimblee

    Screw you, she-dog! (seething)

  • http://fawker.us/2009/10/16/is-it-wrong-for-someone-who-is-not-black-to-be-crowned-the-queen-of-an-historically-black-college/ Is it Wrong for Someone Who is Not Black to be Crowned the Queen of an Historically Black College??? |

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  • Mark

    I fail to believe that we as a black culture can’t have anything to recognize our black queens of this time without feeling they are not be fair to others who are trying to be equal; when at the end of the day if she was bothered with issues of her on color from a hate group would she feel justified from her own background.

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