Which Ho Needs to Sit Down???

Posted on April 30th, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Barack Obama, Bolitics, Ho Sit Down, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

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The old negro mafia is doing everything they can to make sure the Democratic nomination is taken away from Barack Obama. First, you have Pastor Wright, acting a fool the other day and betraying Obama. The shucking and jivin’ pastor had to make sure he got his shine on. SMH. It’s not that he wasn’t telling the truth, his timing could have been more thoughtful of his brotha’s campaign.

Second, you have that shady Clinton mafia still pimpin’ Maya Angelou in new campaign ads against Obama, we thought she retired from the track?

Third, you have a Clinton supporter, Barbara Reynolds, making sure ‘Reverend’ Wright spoke at a well publicized Press Club event. The Clinton campaign then called all the press to make sure they got all the ammo the Clinton administration and racist white folks need to keep pressure on Obama.

We must ask, who needs to sit their silly ass down and stop being pimped by the shady Clintons?

  • Simply Ecstasy

    All of em’

  • Cherry

    FIRST

  • glok9n

    FUK ALL THESE MANUFACTURED NIGGRZ!

  • Cherry

    ANYWAYS IM DISGUSTED WITH THEM BOTH

    OBAMA 08

  • dat dude that will choke a chics nek

    yeah, why did anyone ASSUME that rev.wright was an obama supporter? i think it’s clear who he’s riding for

  • Simply Ecstasy

    Sorry to take First from you Cherry. It wasn’t on purpose.

    @ fly young lady… nope they didn’t learn from the last time they put a Hoe sit down on Maya. They like the drama.

  • dat dude that will choke a chics nek

    ^^^here’s a question for all you chickenheads that keep yelling first FIRST .. do you get a free press and curl when you do that? what is THAT about?

  • Mz. Ju-C Applebum

    Oh Lawd…you gonna have every sista from the AKA’s ready to ride on ya’ll ass…take the Ho away and try something else.

  • Lovely One

    Can someone provide the link where Rev. Wright made a fool of himself on Monday. I’m totally lost.

  • Simply Ecstasy

    I don’t know why everybody be so happy to yell first… like that make em feel special or something. All it means to me is somebody got way too much time on they hands to keep pressing refresh until a new story pop up.

  • thewrite1

    i smell a pay off, rev. jackleg

  • JJ

    This is why we as a people struggle the way we do. We continue to fall into the traps that are set for us. Anybody with any since knows that Barack cannot and will not win this nomination without the white vote. What does the reverand do? He gets right out there on front street and starts running his mouth putting fear in white folk who haven’t quite yet made up their minds on who to vote for. This has got to stop or we will allow the haters to rob this brother of what is rightfully his, the Presidency. And they will do it by pitting us against just as they’ve all done. Come on peeps, the rev needs put that ego of his in check for a minute and look at the big picture.

  • Its6amHogetOut

    Wow i’m now convinced either the Clinton or Mccain campaign paid this Reverend to speak out right now, This in effect keeps his name and his rhetoric in the minds of white voters before the next primaries.

    I told ya’ll White America will never really accept a Black man as the most powerful man in the Universe and now they’ve found the perfect foil (Reverend Wright) to shoulder all the blame, Hillary’s and McCains hands stay clean.

  • Its6amHogetOut

    Remember 6am never wrong, Reverend Wright will go down as one man who shot down our best chance for change.

  • Wenzel Dashington

    Miss Lady Clinton sho’ must be a-smiling now! Did we do good, fo’ ya boss?!

  • KSH

    All of them! LOL!!! It’s not right but it’s okay…

  • so 510 bay

    reverend wright is a mess, cant he see these ppl are using him against Obama to guarantee he wont get elected why else would they be asking him to do all these public controversial appearance? i almost think billary clinton is paying him! but then i guess i would sound like him with his ‘government’ theories

  • SIX Shooter (GET MONEY)

    Rev Wright knew his latest take on the world would do nothing but hurt Obama. He is a regular lil Judas.

  • Simply Ecstasy

    I heard the whole clip and not the sound bite and Rev Wright is not all the way in left field with the things that he is saying however, based on the timing and the impact his message has… he needs to shut up and worry about his duties as a pastor instead of getting political and possibly costing Obama the election.

  • so 510 bay

    i wish bad upon no1 but after all this is said and dun i hope the black church turns it’s back on him like he turned his back on Obama and our chances for a change

  • tooty

    Honestly…………..i believe Rev. Wright is working with the Clintons to keep Obama down. Some folks will do anything for money and power.

  • Mz. Ju-C Applebum

    His timing couldn’t have been any worse…I can understand if he was defending his own character, but he claims he is defending the black church. Well, you could have at least waited until Brother Obama was seated and established in the White House before you went on National T.V. and showed your Godly buns.

    Timing wrong, his speech was on point, but it could have waited.

  • glok9n

    This is why we always fail we are to divided as a ppl!!!

  • gwa

    Obama’s pastor went on a three (or was it four?) day press tour, at a moment when Obama’s campaign was gaining momentum. Why?

    It is because of a phenomenon that has always existed in the black community: crabs in a barrel. Why did Reverend Wright feel the need to vindicate himself days before the precious primaries in Indiana and North Carolina? Many black Americans agree with much that he said, but we cannot understand what possessed him to say it now. He could have just the same gone on his media tirade in November, or July, after the Democratic nominee was selected. The reason why he and many black leaders cannot wholeheartedly support Obama is because of the crabs in barrel phenom: we must bring each other down. Black leaders cannot seem to stomach Obama’s success; his ability to achieve success his way. He does not need to portray a caricature of “blackness.”

    Instead blacks must criticize and divide. We allow our egos come before the good of the whole. In my mind, having a black president contradicts the message of black inferiority that many young blacks have inherited. We need to see that someone as qualified as Obama can be elected. If the older black leadership continues to sabotage Obama’s campaign, the black youth will not forget. Many black leaders have (unknowingly?) destroyed their legacies. We are not a forgiving generation, and if Obama is not elected because of the buffoonery of Rev. Wright, Mr. BET, Charlie Rangel et. al., many black leaders will lose their political strength

  • http://en.gravatar.com/avatar/f440215aabbdc8dc2ff5337fac6a99b9?s=80&r=any Riley

    What Rev. Wright is saying is the truth. I dont watch FOX News or CNN because they are playing clips of his messages and painting him out to be “Anti-American”. Im pissed that Obama is being judged by other people’s beliefs when Hilliary was taken to court by people who worked in her campaign but they’re not talking about that. Obama spoke in Wilmington about the Rev’s remarks when he could have used that time to discuss his plans on bringing real change to the country and our government.

    OBAMA ’08

    YES WE CAN!!!

  • MelindaB

    Why is Maya Angelou above critisism? Because shes old? Because she wrote a book and wears afrocentric colors?

    This woman takes sh1t just like the rest of us and if shes selling out to old friends then she should be called out over it.

  • Somer

    The GOP & the Clinton can all relax now. I knew it would be a matter of time before one of our own do more damage than anyone else. Fame is addictive. It was only so long that Rev. Wright could resist a national spotlight. He put his own selfish, self center need for attention above the country’s.

    I wonder how many couples he have counseled where he has told the husband or wife to put the need of their family 1st, and then they will have time to fullfil individual goals. He could have cleared his name after Nov. He couldn’t wait 7 damn months.

  • Doc

    Maya Angelou Hoe sit down DEAD!

  • HMM

    @kia

    How is obama ignoring black ppl? Wright is hurting black ppl, alot of what he say’s is on point but why now? ok we’ve suffered and we will continue to suffer with hillary or mccain as our president. Wright is riding on obama coat tail nobody really knew anything about him before this election plain and simple he was paid he couldve waited

  • Eddie Irvine

    What Rev. Wright is saying is the truth. I dont watch FOX News or CNN because they are playing clips of his messages and painting him out to be “Anti-American”. Im pissed that Obama is being judged by other people’s beliefs when Hilliary was taken to court by people who worked in her campaign but they’re not talking about that. Obama spoke in Wilmington about the Rev’s remarks when he could have used that time to discuss his plans on bringing real change to the country and our government.

    OBAMA ‘08

    YES WE CAN!!!

    ____________

    Obama spoke out about it because it was the right strategic thing to do for his campaign. It has nothing to do with using time wisely.

    Also it doesnt matter how right Wrights comments were. It was neither the time nor the place to make them. It only helps to give racist and the tabloid media the ammunition they need.

  • so 510 bay

    politian’s had nothing on obama so they did what they’ve been doing for ages and turned us against each other

  • glok9n

    SISTA MAYA YOU NEVER WAS DOWN FOR BLK MEN YOU ALWAYS GAVE THIS LESBO THING ABOUT YOURSELF TO ME SO I SEE THIS ABOUT WOMEN POWER FOR YOU… BARBARA REYNOLDS BLK PPLZ MORDERN THOMASINA, WHEN I HEARD THAT A SO CALLED SISTA SET UP THE EVENT AT THE PRESS CLUB, IT DID NOT SURPRISE ME ONE OF OUR OWN WOULD SABOTAGE…. THE CHANCES OF A BLK MAN! REV. YOU SHUCKD N JIVED YOUR PORK EATING ASS OUT FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE WHAT A JUDAS YOU REALLY WERE…COMMON AMONG OUR PPL …..WE HAVE TO ROOT OUT THESE OLD WEEDS TO ALLOW FRESH BUDS TO BLOOM!!!

  • so 510 bay

    well off to the left a lil, superdeles have given up on obama he still picked more up 2day than billary

  • so 510 bay

    oops i meant not given up on obama

  • Eddie Irvine

    Im sick of shady people being exempt from being called out because they’re old and wear a dashiki

  • JAD

    ALL OF THEM.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    I was very surprised at Maya…with all her blackness talk I thought she would be second to jump on Obama’s wagon after Oprah.

    And I’m am too through with that dumbass RETIRED Rev. Wright…why did he do that foolishness?

  • bored

    Rev Wright needs to go somewhere and stop trying to get a little air time….

  • tscombo

    Dems vs Rep

    Women vs Men

    Blacks vs Whites

    Civil Blacks vs Militant Blacks

  • glok9n

    YOU WOULD THINK THESE HOUSE NIGGRZ BE EXCITED ABOUT THE MOST QUALIFIED MAN OF COLOR BEING THE 1ST REACH THIS LEVEL IN LIFE AND WHAT A BOOST OF ESTEEM THIS WOULD HAVE ON BLK YOUTH STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE WITH OUT LEADERSHIP OR ROLE MODELS ,BUT HERE COMES THESE TAP DANCNG FIDDLING OL SKOOL NNEGROES THAT WANT A WHITE TO RULE EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR SELF HATING BLK MONKEY ASSEZ! I CANT RESPECT BLKS YOUNG OR OLD THAT STILL HAVE SLAVE CHAINZ WRAPPED AROUND THEIR FUKKING BRAINZ!!!

  • varealness

    Usually I don’t comment, but I have to say how tasteless you were putting up Maya Angelou, and Pastor Right under, Ho sit down. What the hell is your problem? Rev. Wright did not lie about anything that he said, no one has said anything to disprove it, so they ignore it and label him crazy. And while we sitting here hating whichever candidate, here’s a lil something for you, they don’t dislike each other. Someone help me, what the hell are either Hilary or Obama talking about? I hear hilary, but whatever, I listen to Obama and his change message, what the hell he gone change, and how? I haven’t heard that yet. So everyone telling me to vote for him cuz he black don’t work. or she a woman don’t work. What are you going to do for me. And that’s the question you need to ask yourself. On some real, since a black man took office in our state (govenor then mayor), it’s a lot tougher on the black man here in the commonwealth!

  • pm

    there is a special place in hell for white america

  • Shadow

    It’s unbelievable how narrow-minded you all can be. Rev. Wright became recognizable because Obama brought him out as his “spiritual leader” when he was trying to convince people he wasn’t a “muslim”. Now that the plan he set into motion has back-fired, he has only himself to blame. If Rev. Wright was really his “Pastor” he would have known how this minister was from the beginning. Rev. Wright didn’t just take on this persona, this is who he is and has been for years. Obama should have been more selective in naming a particular “christian minister” as his Pastor. It’s obvious he made a mistake by choosing Rev. Wright. A mistake he is living to regret.

  • truself

    Maya never liked black men, anyways for sho…

    Rev wright might be right on his views but he did nothave to comeout and say them right now.

    He wants to ride on Obama’s success and coat tail.

    i don’t trust black folks who would purposely mislead other blacks folks to vote not to vote for their own.

    White people don’t want us to talk about slavery b/c they want this country to seem untarnished. They are no better than the Natzi who wronged the Jews. Hell we even have a Holocaust Museum here in DC before we have a black slavery one and slavery happened on thissoil. White Amerikkkans are like scavengers. they take and take and take.

    Old black folks are scared to stray away from the masta. Just like after slavery some slaves stayed with their owner b/c they were scared to stand on their own.

    Funny how Maya has a poem I rise and she will help the white man keep the black race from victory. Pure sell out.

    Rev White and MAya like to sell hope and are mad b/c Obama is getting to much shine. Crabs in a barrel syndrome. And if she helping us get dicked by the white man than she is the white man ho!!!!

  • Crazy Ass Rodney

    It’s a conspiracy!

  • Crazy Ass Rodney

    GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    Sometimes ‘Shadow’ the real you don’t come out until you retire…what the retired rev said yesterday was really uncalled for. He was okay during the Bill Moyer interview…he was okay at the NAACP luncheon…but damn if he didn’t put his feets in his mouth at the A & Q at the Newpaper conference…it was appalling…and I and lots of other people wouldn’t have thought he would stab Obama the way he did.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he was paid to talk and do the mess he did…my first time wanting to throw a brick at that man…made me so mad.

    We don’t need the KKK anymore…we have our own people lynching us…sad to say :(

  • I cant say…

    Maya Angelou- eff her self-righteous a$$, go sit in a cage b*tch and take Rev. Wright with you… Yall so transparent with your backstabbing qualities its a shame. Wright knows he’s killing Obama’s campaign- but isnt it always that the closest to you will do the most damage. This man understands the volatility of the political machine enough to know that he is killing Obama- but that is his agenda. this is a self- driven attempt to make a name for himself and become a h/h figure and he is compromising the stake of Amer. to do so… Now that’s a man who should be respected?? Please, we get no where shucking and jiving and as long as they can have us tap dancing like him we arent a threat, but Barack was trying to get in to office where he could affect change to the benefit of all Americans. And yes, he has to be very diplomatic so he cant be onesided or line himself with extremist or controversial figures. Wright is getting paid to thwart Obama, since there is an invisible connection btwn the two, he knows that every outlandish thing he does will be charged to the Obama campaign… Bastid!!!

  • you’re kidding right

    Let’s be real here. When has Maya done anything of relevance for and in the black community? She regularly speaks at functions attended and cushioned by feminist white women. She works at Wake Forest University. She hasn’t said anything of substance since CAGED BIRD. And for godsakes, her books have been critically panned over the last 10 years. She doesn’t speak to my generation and never has. Last time I saw her speak publicly, she recited a Paul Laurence Dunbar poem and shuffled and grinned as if she were Step ‘n Fetchit reincarnated. How about we take notice of the writers and artists who have endorsed Obama? Toni Morrison. Nikki Giovanni. Michael Baisden. Russell Simmons. Bruce Springsteen. John Cougar Mellancamp. Maya who?

    YES WE CAN!

  • you’re kidding right

    I forgot one. Aretha Franklin publicly endorses Obama and she sang at Bill’s inauguration. Not everyone has been paid off.

  • what do they do agan? why are we even mentioning there names in the same category as politics? obama please dont let the miserable hags bring you down i know the good reverend hurt and disapointed u, but america needs you dont let these hoes distract you!

  • so 510 bay

    sum1 needs to delve into the pastors bank accounts i bet theres been a large deposit recently

  • mandingo

    I like Rev Wright, but not only did he do Obama a disservice, he also did the black generation a disservice. We all talk about the lack of role models in the black community. The only role models that kids look up to these days are athletes and entertainers. If Obama won, black kids could have looked up to a real role model and strived for tsomething more than to be an athlete, enterntainer or thug-want-to-be. Rev Wright won the battle, but he is costing us and Obama the war.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    I’m with you ‘you’re kidding right’…I was through with her when I saw that she was married to a white man…you can’t tell me nothing about being a black woman…when you shun your black man.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ocky_j Octavia

    Mya has a right to support whoever she wishes. That’s democracy.

    BUT Rev. Wright is getting broke off by the Clintons. His timing could not be worse. He felt no need to defend himself all these weeks, now, right before the next major contests, he is wildin’ out.

  • DaPro

    Think about this for a second family

    What does America fear more?

    An educated black man who can reach a wide range of people and wants to run the greatest nation in the world

    or

    An educated black man who wants to hold America accountable for its actions

  • Real Talk

    I usually don’t do this, but uhm . . . . . .

    I cannot BELIEVE the divisiveness that is going on (Is “divisiveness” even a word?)! Once again, another example of Black folks “showing out” against each other. This goes WAY beyond the “house negro” versus “field negro” conflicts of the olden days.

    I was a Clinton supporter until this foolishness. This is the last straw. I will not sit back and condone yet another Brother who is being attacked just for having a popular opinion. I now support Obama. God Bless America. ‘Nough said.

    YES WE CAN!

  • DaPro

    Think about it. We play against each other as blacks but there is no need to throw Pastor Wright or Senator Obama under the bus. This is what White America wants. The purpose of the last question I posted wasn’t to choose sides. We need both men not one or the other.

  • ShavonDensie

    This really disturbs me. Not the Maya Angelou part because while I support Obama, she is entitled to her opinion and I will never support yall telling her ‘Ho sit down’. But,you know Malcolm X said the truest thing, he said that when someone of color is too powerful, someone of color will find a way to bring them down, or for all my Nas fans, Everytime a nigg* has something another nigg* tries to bring him/her down. Soo…

    Dear. Rev. Wright: So let me get in yo a** like I got in Pat Robinson’s anus. WTF?! Obama stuck by you and didnt denounce you when you were out of pocket, he was keeping it G, and this is how you repay him?! Is the money that KKK/Hillary/Republican party putting in an off-shore account worth your soul? And you’re a man of the clothe!! It is sooo obvious that obviously you’re so full of ego, enjoying your14 1/2 mins of fame or you’re getting paid off!! You are a disgrace and you had a man tryna run for the president that put his candidacy on the line for you. And this is how you act?

    I cant even cont…

  • Marcia Brady

    Rev. Wright has a right to defend his reputation. That’s democracy…And if he is receiving monetary favors from The Clintons, then so be it. It’s a few months from the big election. Things will get dirty. It’s politics, so don’t expect Obama to be treated with kid gloves. If he wants The White House so badly, he’ll, like Hillary, will have to dig in and be just as ruthless…Afterall, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was just a movie.

  • menace1

    Well see they’re older so they know whats best. Screw up the country more before yo’ old asses die, why don’cha…

  • Murray Walker

    DaPro

    Think about this for a second family

    What does America fear more?

    An educated black man who can reach a wide range of people and wants to run the greatest nation in the world

    or

    An educated black man who wants to hold America accountable for its actions

    - – – – – – -

    Rev Wright isnt holding anyone accountable. Hes ranting. Ranting wont fix our problems. Possitive rolemodels and politicians of color will.

  • Bohwe

    Believe nothing you see, and half of what you hear. Donot take everything you hear as golden, look at what’s not being said. People are so quick to anger over a person’s comments, and never read between the lines. Anger manifests itself in people who don’t rationalize and see all things.

    My opinion on this whole make believe garbage.

  • Murray Walker

    Marcia Brady

    Rev. Wright has a right to defend his reputation. That’s democracy…And if he is receiving monetary favors from The Clintons, then so be it. It’s a few months from the big election. Things will get dirty. It’s politics, so don’t expect Obama to be treated with kid gloves. If he wants The White House so badly, he’ll, like Hillary, will have to dig in and be just as ruthless…Afterall, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was just a movie.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    ^^^ Shes basically excusing any and everything in the name of politics

  • glok9n

    @ MEANCE FUNNY AND TRUE INDEED!!!

  • Zina {The original princess}

    I don’t agree with everything that they say but please, let’s respect our elders.

  • Just Sit and Be Pretty

    I won’t necessarily call the Rev. Wright a ho, but he was DEAD WRONG for his timing. What he did was underhanded, vindictive and downright disloyal to Barack. He’s old, he’s been around the block long enough to know how the game(s) are played and how media operate. He knew that ANYTHING he said would be played on television, radio and printed incessantly and would serve to invariably damage Barack.

    While I believe that there are many truisms to what Wright has stated, there can be no question about the ill timing and tons of questions about his motives.

    Obama supporters can only hope that he can rise above this fray, stay focused on the issues and tasks at hand and do well in the upcoming elections in NC and IN. I felt sorry for him during his afternoon response yesterday because it was clear that he was hurt and pained by what has transpired.

    Wright might not be a ho…but time time, Wright was Wrong!!

  • Just Sit and Be Pretty

    oops, meant “this time”…

  • DaPro

    I overstand why we have a need to defend Obama no matter what but he has to be able to handle whatever is thrown at him. If he can’t this little sh** with the Clintons then there is no way he can handle the McCains and Pat Buch’s of the world.

    On the flip side, I’m voting for Obama but it’s important to understand why he has to denounce the statements of Pastor Wright. His campaign is mostly funded by Corporate (White, Jewish)funds. He can’t come out against the system because he is funded by the system. Again I am voting for this brotha but it’s important to understand what we are dealing with.

  • awake

    Don’t know that I would refer to these people as hoes but they all need to SIT THEIR ASSES DOWN!!!!! I agree with probably 95% of what Wright said, however, there is a time and place for everything. The National Press Club was not the time, nor was it the place. He was on Bill Moyers, at an NAACP function – those two venues should have been a damn ’nuff. What is his intent? His true goal?

  • glok9n

    To solve this problem and cure this spiritual disease,we must do one thing “Accept our own and be ourselves!” That sounds like two things but it is actually only one thing .To accept your own,is to be yourself,and to be yourself is to accepy your own!

  • Submerge

    I love that we are angry @ Rev. Wright for telling the truth and acting like he is the one shucking and a jiving…..when the reality is Obama is the one shucking and a jiving doing his best to not piss these white folks off. “Yessir massa, yessir. I’sel give up my religion, my pastor, my church of 20+ years”.

    When you look at Rev. Wright’s original speech that started all of this (not the soundbite) you will see that what he had to say was not at all as nonpatriotic as the media made it out to be. Obama should have stood up for that from the beginning. Instead he tried to denounce what the Reverend had said as wrong.

    I’m watching all of these news stations talking about how white America will be able to identify w/ Obama. WTF??? If that is the case, then I guess as black people or as women, we could NEVER identify w/ a former President…..so why even vote. IMO

  • antiprocrastination

    Bottom line: People will use this as an excuse not to vote for Obama. If not this, then Ayers. That’s the only scandal they have on the man. That should speak for itself. While the entire U.S. is faking to be soooo shocked that a black man who was raised under the oppressed time of segregation and jim crow would wade such conflicting views about a country he loved enough to risk his very life and have courage to assert his disdain for its pitfalls and past injustices. All has nothing to do with a man who is both black and white; raised by whites, educated in a diverse culture. No wonder he had the love and temperament to overlook this elderman’s hang ups about his own past. He learned to accept all people for who they were coming up by his white grandparents, white mother and Indian stepfather.

    REMEMBER: MLK was branded a communist, radical and unpatriotic. Just as Obama is today. The media played into the lowest most reliable tool of racism and antipatriotic sinicism. Today, you cannot find any of these anti-MLK people. All in all, time will shine its just light on the hypocrisy and sham of an election.

    LONG LIVE RACISM AND ANTIPATRIOTIC LOSERS… NOT. Thank goodness, humans are immortal and soon enough all the Dixie, segregationist, old school haters will die off and the generation of HOPE AND CHANGE will take over.

    Si se puede.

    OBAMA 2008!

  • Murray Walker

    “Submerge

    I love that we are angry @ Rev. Wright for telling the truth and acting like he is the one shucking and a jiving…..when the reality is Obama is the one shucking and a jiving doing his best to not piss these white folks off. “Yessir massa, yessir. I’sel give up my religion, my pastor, my church of 20+ years”.

    When you look at Rev. Wright’s original speech that started all of this (not the soundbite) you will see that what he had to say was not at all as nonpatriotic as the media made it out to be. Obama should have stood up for that from the beginning. Instead he tried to denounce what the Reverend had said as wrong.

    I’m watching all of these news stations talking about how white America will be able to identify w/ Obama. WTF??? If that is the case, then I guess as black people or as women, we could NEVER identify w/ a former President…..so why even vote. IMO”

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    Im wit you. F this Obama. Talkin all white thinkin he better than us cause he been to the school.

    We should get Farrakhan to run for president, then we’ll show em. Farrakhan will win the democratic nomination no problem.

  • so 510 bay

    @ RUMRAISEN

    why shouldnt we question maya everyone is entitled to the own opinions tru but hillary clinton is using her to get the black vote why support someone who doesnt support the black community and youre a black woman? it is a fact that bill and hillary clinton have made inappropriate racial statements during this election they downgrade the states that obama wins calling them black states that dont really matter why would someone with so much wisdom (supposedly) side with her

  • antiprocrastination

    Rev. Wright is not to fault. Obama is not to fault. He is old school, way back during segregation. My problem is he should have waited after the election and went on a media tour to set the record straight. For the 2 ladies, their type put us in slavery and kept us for 400 yrs. Slavery and current inequalities can be traced back to another black person.

    Hell, read a history book. White people tried the same s**t with native americans, but they knew the land and weren’t having it. So they found some shuk and jive Africans to sell us off like cattle.

    That’s o.k. and that’s the past. We have to beat them at their own game this time and stay focus, and continue to support Obama.

    The game haven’t changed, they just threw in different playas.

    Don’t be bamboozled!

    Obama 2008

  • so 510 bay

    another thing why is w wrights truths coming all of a sudden? why didnt they come out years ago or hell in december?

  • Just Sit and Be Pretty

    @RumRaisin (which by the way is my absolute favorite…Haagen Dazs!!) “It’s a sticky situation that’s going get stickier once he gets the nod.”

    ___

    Yup, it’s a slippery slope…the waters are extremely choppy and I think Obama is doing his best to stay afloat.

    @Submerge, I agree with some of what you’re saying because there a part of me that wants him to be more aggressive at times with Hilary, especially during the debates…at times he comes off a bit soft compared to her “pitbull in a pantsuit” attitude. However, I think that he did a great job of explaining…or maybe translating…the essence of what Rev. Wright was saying and the frustrations of being a minority in this country during his Philadelphia speech. He definitely did NOT throw Wright under the bus as he could well have. That was an excellent speech and I think he spoke from his heart… it didn’t have a “yessir massa” tenor at all…but one of inclusion and reconciliation.

    BTW, from his comments yesterday, he stated that his relationship w/Wright has changed, but he didn’t say he was he was giving up his religion nor leaving Trinity.

  • antiprocrastination

    I see it’s some perpetrators on-line trying to split up the black community. You don’t fool anyone, you probably ain’t black and support Billary or McCain. Well, no one’s buying what you’re selling.

    Obama’s beef w/ Rev. Wright is there’s and not ours. Unfortunately, the public got drug in the middle b/c of the media. Rev. Wright was like a family member, and one thing black ppl know don’t get in the middle of family business, b/c they will probably squash this BS after the election anyway.

    So all you Billary and McCain supporters go log in at FoxNews. You are all officially on blast.

    Obama 2008

  • glok9n

    I never said that the rev was not telling the truth, but he could have came out either the begining or the very end, that was a Judas move he pulled on Obama,and he was dancing and rapping and acting all niggrish, and answering questions he could have said “no comment” on and he knew the atmosphere at those press clubs remember he is so intelligent!!!

  • glok9n

    @SUBMERGE WANTS A POWER TO THE PPL NIGGR IN OFFICE, DRESS IN RED,BLK AND GREEN WITH A POWER FIST PICK IN HIS AFRO AND WITH FUKING A RADIO RAHEIM BOOMBOX!

  • DaPro

    @ Submerge

    I feel that family. I was on the fence with Obama because he doesn’t take enough of a stand but again his campaign will fall apart without that cakse his getting from white folks.

    Lets support both our brothas family. It ain’t hard.

  • Sydney

    FYI, Hillary commented on the Wright controversy in an interview today on Fox News with Bill O’Reilly:

    In an interview Wednesday with Fox News Channel’s Bill O’Reilly that will air tonight, Clinton says that she found the comments made by Wright to be “offensive and outrageous.”

    Clinton also reiterated her previous remarks about Wright that she would not have stayed in the church after hearing the comments. She said it was up to voters to decide how the controversy over Wright impacts the campaign.

    O’Reilly asked Clinton to describe how she felt “when you hear a fellow American citizen say that kind of stuff about America.”

    “Well, I take offense,” Clinton said. “I think it’s offensive and outrageous. I’m going to express my opinion, others can express theirs. It is part of just, you know, an atmosphere we’re in today.”

    Michelle Obama is also scheduled to appear on CNN tonight at 10 ET to talk with Anderson Cooper about Wright.

  • glok9n

    Black ppl this is our everyday actions and language of each other,I know because I am you!THE WHITE MAN aint gotta hold us back !All he has to say is that he like one of you better than the other and all the fool comes out of you!Fighting and arguing with each other, mean while the devil is laughing and tickled red! Literally! He sits there mentally manipulating us dumb blks!

  • My son’s parole officer said it’s gonna be alright!

    I THINK REV. WRIGHT’S BOOK SHOULD BE TITLED “10 STEPS ON HOW TO BETRAY A FRIEND DURING THE MOST IMPORTANT TIME OF THEIR LIFE”. HE’S AN EXPERT ON IT!

  • yella

    CRABS IN A BARREL. Its sickens me to see these somewhat prominent black figures knowingly helping to bring down THE POTENTIAL FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. Were they asleep during the entire civil rights movement? I see clearly now “JeraMaya” (put their old asses together)’talk’ a good ass game but have miserably failed the real test.

  • The White Devil

    HA! HA! HA! My plan is slowly coming to fruition. One soon to be down and one to go. Operation CRABS IN A BARREL is in full effect. FEAR ME!

  • Earth Sign

    2503245161

  • Earth Sign

    I think Barack Obama and his camp are political relations geniuses. I hope this pays off for Barack in the election.

  • Earth Sign

    In order to win the undecided voters, Barack had to dismiss Pastor Wright. Pastor Wright’s speach gave him the reason to do so to the public.

  • Earth Sign

    why cant i post my whole comment?

  • Earth Sign

    Pastor Wright was being slammed by the media and bloggers on his views and he disappeared into obscurity, but he had to come back and defend himself as a man, and I believe Barack knew this.

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @ EARTH SIGN

    Yeah… I read Hexchief’s theory in the comments of the last Rev. Wright story. I could see this being a clever way to end the controversy.

  • Earth Sign

    Pastor Wright was not wrong in my eyes. He had to speak out and defend himself.

  • glok9n

    Itz quite clear that blk ppl are just like a bucket of crabs.We all trying to pull each other back down.Everybody wants to be somebody else, because we all been nobody for so long!!!

  • Chaka

    We need to stop blaming the white man and look back into the mirror. This country has provided us with more resources than any other nation on the planet. The Hispanics, Jews and Asians are thriving here and we act like a bunch of educated idiots. Poor people of color move to this country in droves and bounce right over us because we can’t focus on what is real: education, unity, spiritually and financial well-being.

  • Earth Sign

    @Yes.We.Can!!!

    I beleive this was done on purpose for the sake of politics. Obama had to have a reason to the end his realationship with Wright for the undecided voters. Its a political game. trust me

  • Sydney

    Has anyone heard about this? I wouldn’t normally cite the New York Post, but it was quoted in a story in today’s Washington Post:

    The New York Post plumbs the depths of the reverend’s thinking:

    “The Rev. Jeremiah Wright would be happy to see Barack Obama’s presidential campaign derailed because the pastor is fuming that his former congregant has ‘betrayed’ their 20-year relationship, The Post has learned. ‘After 20 years of loving Barack like he was a member of his own family, for Jeremiah to see Barack saying over and over that he didn’t know about Jeremiah’s views during those years, that he wasn’t familiar with what Jeremiah had said, that he may have missed church on this day or that and didn’t hear what Jeremiah said, this is seen by Jeremiah as nonsense and betrayal,’ said the source, who has deep roots in Wright’s Chicago community and is familiar with his thinking on the matter.”

  • Earth Sign

    I just hope the plan does not back fire. This may cause the undecided to sway away from voting for him because it looks like one big contracdition, or feel sorry for him to look like he was betrayed.

  • HomoMafia

    Mz. Ju-C Applebum

    His timing couldn’t have been any worse…I can understand if he was defending his own character, but he claims he is defending the black church. Well, you could have at least waited until Brother Obama was seated and established in the White House before you went on National T.V. and showed your Godly buns.

    Timing wrong, his speech was on point, but it could have waited.

    ————————

    Couldn’t have said it any better. The game is politics. The rules are play or get played.

  • Earth Sign

    @Sydney

    Propaganda in Baracks favor at its best. I now will look like a betrayal issue when people read this.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    Well, I definitely see this as a betrayal issue — I just cannot believe that a man of such high intelligence as Rev. Wright couldn’t know the possible negative fallout his remarks before a throng of reporters would cause. When I watched his speech in Detroit in CNN, I thought there was trouble brewing — when I read articles about his appearance at the National Press Club before a packed room, I knew Obama was doomed, as did many others. To me, Rev. Wright pushed Obama into a corner where he never wanted to go, and he’ll be paying the price until November, and I hope this doesn’t affect his chances of securing the nomination because this issue is not going away anytime soon. That is a certainty.

  • Earth Sign

    Think about it. If Rev Wright would have never said anything again after those clips of his sermons surfaced, the undecided would have ended up voting for Hilary, because Obama never really showed how he stood on Rev Wrights views, Notice Obamas reaction, he used the words, “I think differently of him now”. He is now taking a stand to end the controvesy, instead of letting it linger on. This is a straight up political move, and propanga match, and is not really what it looks like on the outside.

  • Earth Sign

    @Sydney

    Look at it this way. Blacks will vote for Obama regardless of what Rev Wright says. The majorty on the other hand cant stand Rev Wright. If Obama looks like he is betrayed, the association with Rev Wright is somewhat broken.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    I believe Obama and everyone in his camp wanted to move on from the Wright issue — he gave that wonderful speech on race and addressed his pastor’s remarks without denouncing him. What Wright did in the past few days has catapaulted Obama back into a race-tinged controversy that could seriously damage his campaign. He had no choice but to sever his ties with Wright.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    People may see Obama as being “betrayed,” but there are also voters who will see this as a sign of Obama’s lack of good judgment, which is harmful to his reputation. It’s going to take a lot of damage control to get past this, I think.

  • Earth Sign

    @Sydney

    you and I will vote for Obama regardless. This propanda is for the majority, not us. The majority percieves things a bit differently than minorities. We’ll see how it plays out.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    Also, I think New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd hit the nail on the head today when she referred to Obama being forced to morph into the “Angry Black Man” he was trying so fervently to avoid. Many are calling this episode a political disaster:

    “At the very moment when his fate hangs in the balance, when he is trying to persuade white working-class voters that he is not an exotic stranger with radical ties, the vainglorious Rev. Wright kicks him in the stomach. In a narcissistic explosion that would impress Bill Clinton, the preacher dragged Obama into the ’60s maelstrom that he had pledged to be an antidote to. In two days worth of solipsistic rants, the man of faith committed at least four of the seven deadly sins — wrath, envy, pride and greed (book and lecture fees?) — while grandiosely claiming he was defending the black church.

    He was certainly sore at Obama, after helping him get connected in Chicago politics, for distancing himself. But he was also clearly envious that Obama has been hailed by his flock as the halo-wearing Redeemer of America’s hope.”

  • Marquis de Sade

    If this article is true, so much for looking at the big picture, let alone the long term. Crabs in a Barrel indeed.

  • Sharpton’s perm

    ALL 3 OF THESE CRAB ASS COONS NEED TO SIT THE HELL DOWN.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    Yes, I will vote (and have voted) for Obama because I believe he is the best candidate. But the fact remains that he still has to win over working-class white voters who have voted en masse for Clinton and still view Obama with a cloud of suspicion. Wright’s timing couldn’t have been more off. I’m nervously awaiting the results of Indiana and North Carolina’s primaries — to me, that will be a tell-tale sign of how deep the damage runs from this publicity nightmare.

  • Sydney

    @Marquis de Sade

    Hi, how are you?

  • Sydney

    @AskOne

    You just pointed out another hurdle that Obama still has to overcome — a number of voters still believe he is a Muslim and view him with suspicion. Reportedly, Wright had National of Islam reps with him at the National Press Club (according to the Washington Post). That doesn’t help Obama any, to be sure.

  • Earth Sign

    @sydey

    From reading the article you had posted and not knowing any better, I would A. Feel sorry for Obama, and B. would think Rev Wright was a crazy lunatic that is trying to destroy Obama political run. In the end, I do not think this whole fiaco will hurt Obama. Just my opinion. We will see.

  • Marquis de Sade

    I’m just waiting for August. Hillary has made it quite clear, votes or no votes, she wants her and Obama’s fate decided by the super delegates. That being said, will the “THE POPULAR VOTE” have any true value?

    Hi Sydney!

  • Kenya

    Obama can not win, if he will, the results will be switched.. do not way your vote.

  • Earth Sign

    @charter cub

    I agree with your opinion, but there is no need to call people ignorant, thats if you were speaking of us posters.

  • charter cub

    Enough of that “working class white voters” crap. Please don’t let the media fool you. Obama won Iowa and Wyoming for God’s sake. Those states are as white and working class as it can get.

    Besides, with strong black support and a decent amount of white supporters, Obama can win. That’s exactly how Bill Clinton won.

  • charter cub

    @ Earth Sign

    I was referring to those who refer to Maya Angelou and other esteemed black people as ‘hoes’.

  • Sydney

    @Marquis

    Did you hear about Howard Dean’s thoughts on the campaign? He wants either Obama or Clinton to drop out after the primary season wraps up in June, I believe. But I don’t think Hillary is going anywhere. As she says, “I’m in it to win it.”

  • charter cub

    McCain will be president. The Repubilcans will steal the election just as they’ve done in ’00 and ’04.

    By the way, in a real democracy, only the popular vote should matter.

  • charter cub

    If Howard Dean was a true Democrat,he’d pressure Hillary to drop out, since it’s clear that the people wnat Obama.

  • Earth Sign

    @charter cub

    McCain will be president. The Repubilcans will steal the election just as they’ve done in ‘00 and ‘04.

    By the way, in a real democracy, only the popular vote should matter.

    _______________-

    This is true!

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @charter cub

    What a shame. You seemed so intelligent until you used Rev. Wright and the truth in the same sentence. You’re so clear to the machinations of businessmen and politicians but blind to the ulterior motives of a man who determined to set himself up as the 21st century goto pundit on all thinks “God, Truth, and Black Folk”. Your cynicism is justified, but selective.

  • Sydney

    @Marquis de Sade

    OK, that makes sense. But can they do something about the rampant namejacking here? It really is a problem.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ Sydney

    Yes i saw him on George Stephanopolis’s last Sunday. I think the Democratic Party is starting to get a little antsy, and justifiably so. They need a clear cut winner now, so they can begin a strategy to deal with John McCain Machine come November.

  • Earth Sign

    It was good blogging with you guys today. If you ever have the time, try blogging on the National News papers. They have some interesting characters on there. We should take our views and opinions elsewhere.

  • Sydney

    @Marquis de Sade

    Yes, I agree — the Democratic party is in serious trouble. And the polls say that Clinton and Obama supporters may even vote for McCain if their candidate is not selected to be the Democratic nominee. Meanwhile, McCain is free to to build his case for why he’s the strongest candidate.

  • Sydney

    @Earth Sign

    It was good talking with you, too :) I read some of the newspaper and political blogs, and they’re very lively, and, yes, there’s a cast of characters on them. Do you read Politico?

  • charter cub

    Invictus:

    what did rev. wright say that was so false?

    there is an anti-intellectual movement in america that’s getting out of control; therefore rev. wright’s words may very well seem ‘weird’ to many, including yourself.

    the truth is i listen to obama and i like what he has to say. at the same time, i understand that he is walking on a racial tightrope and he must keep balance until he makes it. BUT! and i do mean BUT. a closer look into his voting history since 2005 shows that he is not anti-imperialism, or anti anything that we the people, especially black people yearn for.

    aside from a racial tightrope, he’s trying to keep balance with ‘we the people’ as well as ‘they the corporations’. he knows if he doesn’t play by the rules of the corporate elite, he will be shunned. so what am i to make of him? it’s us vs the elite, and if he chooses to serve us, they’ll get rid of him. on the other hand, if he chooses to serve them, we won’t be satisfied. so i say grassroots is the way to go.

    as crazy as this may sound, we don’t need a black president.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Test

  • charter cub

    the media exaggerates the amount of supporters mccain have. just look at his rallies and town hall meeting, ect. only a few folks show up, compared to the thousands for barack and to a lesser extent hillary. the corporate media is getting paid to smear obama and push mccain.

  • Sydney

    Some good news for Obama from the AP:

    “Barack Obama is closing in on Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton’s advantage among superdelegates, building on his lead in the primary race even as he faces troubled times.

    Party leaders are encouraging superdelegates to pick a side by late June to prevent the fight from going to the national convention in August, and it seems some are listening as the race enters its final five weeks of voting.”

  • charter cub

    that is good, sydney, but hillary will not bow out without a fight. she’s determined and her addiction to power will cause her to do whatever she can to cling to get that nomination.

    i admit i’m very confused about obama, but never in my 27 years of living did i see so much joy in the faces of so many young black kids in america. people are enthusiastic about obama, and that’s a good thing.

    people are hungry for change, and that’s a good thing. and when i say change, it might not be a complete destruction of the current system, but a change in the faces that usually occupy the white house.

  • WHAT U GONNA DO HAMMA?

    @antiprocrastination—- cosign on all you have said!!!

    As most of you have already said,Rev Wright is correct in a lot of what he is saying, no one can dispute that.

    WE all have a problem with his timing, and the length he has drawn this out.

    it’s ok that he wanted to defend himself, he definitley is not anti american and anyone with a brain can see why he is so bitter, My problem is this,

    Obama had his back the first go round, tried to make america understand how this man could feel this way about a country he risked his life to protect

    But, when the press asked Wright about Obama.. he IMO, threw Obama “under the bus” by saying he was “posturing”

    He could have continued his “rant” for all I care, but he did not have to intentionally pull Obama in the mix.

    Now is it fair that Obama has to denounce this man, no it’s not, However, we have to look at the bigger picture as somone said earlier.

    the panel made a good point last nite on Larry King

    Clinton is a methodist(i believe) , who have written in their doctrine how they feel about gays, however she has never been made to feel like she had to denounce her church because of its belief, and she would never speak on it because it would jeopardize her chance at winning

    No other american is held accountable for what their church believes

    How many churches have a gay member that sits every sunday and listens to how they will be condemned to hell?

    they may not agree, but they come to church every sunday and no one asks why.

    Obama still did not say this man was wrong for how he felt, he said he didnt agree and they are not his beliefs.

    IMO, it was obvious that Obama felt betrayed mostly by the “posturing” comment because that implies that he is not genuine and just like any other politician.

    But I ask, is that so wrong if he(obama) is in this case? Obama had to denounce him and his beliefs for the greater good.

    he had to become a “politician” yesterday so that america can start seeing him instead of Wright.

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @ charter cub

    I never said Rev. Wright said anything false. He just didn’t bring anything new to the discourse. Truth is subjective. Rev. Wright was speaking the truth as HE sees it. But his truth had everything to do with self promotion and not illumination. I agree with your overall assessment off Obama. But I don’t fall in line with the thinking that America doesn’t need a black president. Look, let’s be honest, what we’re playing here is the game of “lessor evils”. Change is incremental at best. When I look to give someone my vote I know the game when I step to the plate. We all bend over, I just want to choose the man who’s going to buy me dinner first. Obama looks like a nice prospect.

  • Sydney

    @charter cub

    No, Hillary will not stop fighting, but there are many Democrats who want this primary contest to come to an end before it permanently fractures the party. Obama has more pledged delegates, popular votes, states won, cash to spend, and is gaining in superdelegates (he received two new endorsements today) — Hillary is dependent on the superdelegates if she wants to push out a win and, despite a recent infusion of cash after the Pa. primary, she’s being consistently outspent by Obama (not to mention having trouble paying some of the bills). The writing’s on the wall. Now what will happen in November is up in the air.

    Yes, I think people are very hungry for change — the Bush years have been very hard on Americans across the board, and we have a lot at stake in this election. I’ve never been so involved in a campaign as I have this one. I went canvassing recently for the first time in my life for Obama, and I cannot describe how great it felt. I see hope in his campaign, and I hope he is able to overcome these recent struggles, so that he has at least a fighting chance of taking on McCain in the end game.

    Yes We Can — Obama ’08

  • lanette

    the only one who should be standing is Wright. it is easy to say that he should fall back when you are not the one getting death threats as well as his church. it is unfair..

    the church comes on TVONE every Sunday mornings at 7:am .

  • Sydney

    Just to piggyback on my post, FYI from the AP:

    “There are about 800 Democratic superdelegates, officeholders and party officials who can vote for either candidate regardless of the results of state primary and caucus contests. Clinton has a narrowing 21 superdelegate lead while Obama has outdistanced Clinton 1,728.5 to 1,595.5 overall.

    With only nine state and territorial contests remaining, Clinton cannot achieve the 2,025 delegate count needed for the nomination without capturing most of the superdelegates who remain uncommitted.

    That would put the party hierarchy at odds with Democratic voters and could further deepen the Democratic split. A new Associated Press-Ipsos poll already shows many backers of both Clinton and Obama saying they would support McCain if their candidate does not take the nomination.”

  • charter cub

    Invictus:

    opinions are subjective. truth is objective. and rev. wright spoke the truth. perhaps he should have held back and declined the interview with moyers; and perhaps he should have held back and declined the naacp invite. but i know if it was ME who was villianized in such way by the media, i would have spoken up as well.

    don’t forget obama has 90% of the black vote. and don’t forget approximately ten thousands folks showed up to hear rev wright speak, so either those 10,000 are crazy or he’s saying something that makes sense. and the same folks who support obama (90% of black voters) showed up to hear the pastor speak. so whaddup wit dat?

    obama, believe it or not, is engaging in self promotion as well. so why can’t rev wright? i mean the guy spoke and he spoke out against ALL folks who are considered the voiceless and the ignored in this country. he did not only speak out for BLACK people. he spoke out against the 400,000 men and women who have been sent to iraq to ‘die for a lie’. he spoke out against unfair treatment of immigrants. so what are you saying?

    the only ones who are against him and his words are those who have been brainwashed by the elite establishment that cannot survive without divide and conquer.

    sensible white people who have resisted dangerous conditioning of the brain support dr. wright and his message of unity. and if you listened to his message, and not just soundbites, then you should not have a problem with what he said.

    obama agrees with him, btw. why else would he have stayed in his church for 20 years? he just have to whatever is ncessary to keep afloat. and i don’t blame him because sometimes you just gotta learn how to play the game.

  • charter cub

    i’m out too. i will take a look at it now.

    evening all.

  • Sydney

    Oh, and the name of the Tribune column is “Wright does Obama wrong.”

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @ charter cub

    I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. Rev. Wright and Obama are playing the same game. I am not against Rev. Wright. I just see his method for what it is. Like any great speaker attempting to sway the crowd Rev. Wright blinds his audience with a cacophony of words that take aim at a shared cynicism. No solutions are offered, just a laundry list of “wrongs done” pitched in such a way as to inflame the audience. And once inflamed, whatever logic is easily pushed aside and replaced with the speakers truth. Obama has mastered this. Rev. Wright has mastered this. You have obviously sided with the man who best pushes your button and speaks to your “conditioning”. Once again… Rev. Wright is out for self. And for the record… I saw all the speeches. Also I like how you got all “hood” on me with “Whaddup Wit Dat!” It was cute.

  • malcolm

    White America is not Barack problem it these old house Negroes. I told friends that Barack downfall will be his old fellow black Americans. they did it to Marcus Garvey, Malcolm x and now they will do it to Barack

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @ charter cub

    And one more thing. I’m going to share with you a trick of the trade. A sure sign that someone is brainwashed, conditioned, or indoctrinated is when that someone accuses another group or person of being brainwashed, conditioned, or indoctrinated. For all of you who profess to know “The Truth” you are ripe for the picking and defenseless against a truly subversive meme.

  • malcolm

    Rev. Wright Know dam well that if he start talking again it will hurt Obama And the lady who got him to speak at the press club it a big Hillary supporter so this is all plan and its sad to see it was plan by his own ppl to benefit a white woman.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    @jena4rmthablock 4:49

    YES…*nodding* YEP!

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    @ glok9n

    ‘because we all been nobody for so long!!!’

    AND there it go…right there…repeat what he just said………….

    ‘because we all been nobody for so long’…that we all wanna be SOMEBODY before the night is over…right?

  • charter cub

    invictus:

    you obviously did NOT listen to the man speak. he DID offer solutions – and his solution was to not feed into the divide and conquer strategy that has been working for generations upon generations and learn to accept change. his attack was against the ruling elite and NOT white people.

    rev wright has helped THOUSANDS of people find hope one way or another. do your research and you’ll see how many black men and women credit them for helping them reshape their lives. and you say no solution? get a grip!

    anyway, i ain’t here to fight with you. pastor wright spoke the TRUTH. and you can either join the damn movement or stay where you are. either or it’s gonna happen.

    and again, obama secretely agrees with him. and like pastrybabe said, perhaps he did it intentionally to force obama to distance himself from him? don’t be foolish into thinking obama really disown the same guy who married him, baptized his kids, and helped him find god. obama is playing the game, and so is pastor right. let them play it.

    i’m an atheist, but long live black liberation theology.

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @charter cub

    Lol…. nuff said.

  • http://bossib.com Invictus

    @ charter cub

    And for the record I’m an Agnostic Rationalist.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    Michael Moore is on Larry King asking Larry…

    “How would you feel being a black MAN in America?”

    Think about it….

  • Butterscotch

    Sometimes we are our own worst enemy. I’m all for independent thinking, but would it kill us to be respectful and avoid unneccesarily sabotaging one of us who happens to have a positive message?

  • Lisa

    “The old negro mafia”

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • persona

    I love how black people want to shut up a pastor to win over “white folks”. The massah taught ya’ll well. Good job, house negroes.

  • glok9n

    @Afiya you said it!!

  • Mycherie

    Kamacki well said. Soooo true.

  • De

    I think these are the slaves who snitched on other slaves to the massa.

  • charter cub

    @persona:

    yep!

  • charter cub

    1. It was Toni Morrison who dubbed Clinton the first black president, not Maya Angelou.

    2. Rev. Wright has the right to be self serving. Isn’t that what Obama’s doing?

    3. The Democratic party has been using black people for years, and they will continue to do so.

  • obama’s fan

    @chapter club

    u are right to some extent. but rev.wright was always been obama’s top mentor and was also in his campaign. there were some things he did not have to say, but he said it!!! the idiot contradited himself, his family and especially obama!!!! this is white america, they will do anything to put a black man down!!! obama is running for the most strongest country in the world, for a black man he has alot of reponsibility!!!!!so meaning, any small mistake he makes or his campaigners makes, will affect him BIG TIME!!!! rev wright has done that and it is really affecting this dude,but nevertheless he is very articulate and that is what is saving him right now!!!! to summarize all this, people need to shut the f*ck when necessary and not jeprodize other people’s success!!eg rev wright and this black wH&RES and to all the black pastors putting my man down!!!

    as for the democractic people using black people for yrs, i concur 100%, ever since bill clinton won we have been blinded by his little support on blacks!!! we only focused on one political party, black people please “EXPLORE” it’s aight to be repulicans too!!!

    OBAMA YES WE CAN 08

  • obama’s fan

    typs has always been

  • Obama ’08

    When people were saying how Rev. Wright was right to go on and on, I said that fool needed to check himself and his timing.

    Now today, the tide has turned and people are calling for him to sit down.

    Told ya so. LOL

    >> we only focused on one political party, black people please “EXPLORE” it’s aight to be repulicans too!!! <<

    Where can I get the literature about the repulicans? I’ve never heard of them.

    :Note sarcasm:

  • Obama ’08

    >> Also, Shady Clinton does have a great track record with bringing us out of the slump that the Bush’s have caused. You do the math. <<

    Naw, you do the math. It doesn’t add up to Billary’s lucky day.

  • obama’s fan

    @obama Where can I get the literature about the repulicans? I’ve never heard of them.

    :Note sarcasm:

    dude research on them!!! start listening to john mcains’speech o cnn politics if u feel that he is more suitable or presedential for our country then vote for him, now mind u voting for a republian makes u one also. i’ll tell u a secret, there are some things mccain says that is very rational!!!

  • obama’s fan

    on

  • obama’s fan

    obama has finally denouced his statement, thank GOD, he should jusy concentrate more on clinton and mccain and forgo that fool called wright!!!

  • WAKE-UP!!

    @ Charter Club

    First of all there were several ignorant self serving and financially “paid” folks and organizations who termed Bill the first Black president without knowing his history. He wrote a book about his black nanny but there were KKK ‘s that had black nanny’s as well. Then blacks (Naacp and others) began to blindly trust and support the Clinton’s regime. Did they (Clinton’s) give money to these organizations and churches? Probably so. Let me just say I do not care if Rev. Wright spoke the truth, the problem is what he spoke Blacks and Whites already knew. His timing and the necessity for the speech is what confuses me. The Bill Moyer interview was adequate in portraying him in a different light, however I do have suspicion regarding the NAACP and Press Club appearances. I have also noticed that in all Reverend Wright’s rants and prances in front of the America and the world, he did not mention one sly word about the Clinton’s or said anything about knowing them. As a matter of fact I don’t think he mentioned them at all. His buzz word throughout the Bill Moyer interview through the Press club interview was his description of Barack as saying what he says because he is a politician and describing himself as a man of the cloth, a pastor. Is that to say that Obama will say anything people want to hear? That he has no true or sincere desire to effect change? Sounds like a Clinton theme to me. The Reverend Wright was used as a pawn in all respects. I believe it smells and reaps of the Clinton campaign kitchen sink, garbage throwing, republican and media connection tactics.

    And for all the Blacks who have tried to discredit Barack and his message. You only strengthen an aspiring nation of young and aspiring youth who will move on ignoring your legacy, unlike that of truly great leaders such as Garvey, Dubois, Malcolm and King. Your legacy, that you have built so grand, will go down as simply being a “sell out”.

  • noney

    all them hoes need to sit the f*** down!

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    correction:

    ^5 Michelle and BARACK!!

  • http://yahoo ksn

    what is happening now is an unstoppable change.

    i think white as well as black i mean all the race shoud unite and vote for the honest & uderstanding person not his colour.

    for usa to move forward they have to be liked and accepted by the whole world .i don’t think it will happen under clinton.

    whoever said that clinton was the 1st black president-is because, at that time he or she was misled, he wanted the vote from the minority and it worked for him not once but twice elected.he is a very good liar. the media in england hated him from the start,i was fighting for him about the monica lewinsky case until she show the proof with his semen on,that is the time i have given up on them.

    because the wife was preparing for her turn to the white house she went for sympathy reaction and looked oblivious to the whole thing.in another 20 or 30 years there will be autobiography telling us different story.one to sell the book and two to be in the media (bad news is better than no news)

    anyway to come to my conclusion if usa and the western world want to go forward they need a person who is charismatic/intelligent/experienced/& have worked among poor and under class people. THAT MAN IS ONLY OBAMA.I am british and i am talking on what i know about most of us are thinking.

    CHINA AND INDIA are ready to take over they are ready to see our need not only for Africa but the so called 3rd world countries.

    as for maya angelo ,barbar reynold ,pastor wright and the numerous black people what they are doing is ok it is democracy.

    ps do not forget the man who killed MALCOLM X is a black man for whatever reason.

  • http://yahoo ksn

    what is happening now is an unstoppable change.

    i think white as well as black i mean all the race shoud unite and vote for the honest & uderstanding person not his colour.

    for usa to move forward they have to be liked and accepted by the whole world .i don’t think it will happen under clinton.

    whoever s

  • REAL2REELVISIONS

    I think Obama is a fair decent God fearing man who deserves to be in the White House. For the first time a man of color has a chance to be in control and make a difference. This would have let everone know that a black man is more than just a shuckin and jiving. But here comes Reverend Wright running his big mouth as soon as the camera is turned on him. Like a coon he was just bascking in the limelight the other day. Instead of him saying that this brother Obama has a great chance of becoming the first black president. Im going to step aside and keep quiet to my brother is elected and then come out as wild as ever. But that showmonkey couldnt waite. It was very distastful how he`s letting divide and conquer threaten Obamas presidency.

    http://www.myspace.com/egocartelmusic

  • Sydney

    @Afiya

    I also saw the Obamas on The Today Show, and they looked great and I thought they handled themselves with the utmost grace, as always (and the love between them was evident — very touching).

    FYI, the NY Times has a very interesting story today about the unraveling of the relationship between Obama and Rev. Wright, and Obama is scheduled to appear on Meet the Press on NBC this Sunday.

  • Barack’s Penis

    To all my Stans, i just want to shower you all with my JISM OF CHANGE! Why should Michelle enjoy all my creamy goodness.

  • lovely and amazing

    Obama should have ran as a Republican. McCain would not have the nomination. And neither will Hillary.

    Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can!

  • David Duke

    Ugly and uninformed

    If Obama would’ve ran as a republican, he wouldn’t got the black or liberal vote and the conservative voters would’ve shrugged and said: “Why is the domestic help running for president?”

  • Margo

    Obama is the voice for change. Is it too much to hope that we all get that memo? Wow.

  • obama’s fan

    the only mistake obama made was that he did not denouce his destructive statement a longggggggggggg time ago!!! he could have just ignored rev wright statement and focused more on the issues we have here in America!!!!!but i thank GOD he just did and it’s time to move on.

  • obama’s fan

    no ne&gros can bring me down, absoultely NONE!!!!

  • Cecilia

    I’m telling you…All em’ need to sit THEY’RE OLD ASSES DOWN. I find it amazing that the Rev’s congregation isn’t chocking’ his tap dancin’ass. And that old negro spiritual crap that Maya been preaching for us to stay enslaved by shady ass Clintons is f*&king amazing! I hope she’s not counting on us to purchase her next book of poetry! I’m going to turn my back on all those haters and perpetrators!

    Obama 08

    Amen

  • bee

    So that just means that everyone who is able to vote should vote. These older black people don’t want change because then they can’t make money on their books talking about black people being victims. We don’t need white people to be successful in this country. Let’s prove it.

    OBAMA 2009/2012

  • http://www.blogger.com/home rainlillie

    I want somone who has shown good judgment from day one. I want someone who had the foresight and the conviction to speak out and say that the Iraq war was a mistake. Even when the majority of the country and the politicians were pro-war, this person was running for a Senate seat, and he took a stand and said he was against the war… I’m Talking about Obama.

    Hilary has a history of standing behind presidents when they make bad choices:

    Bill Clinton with NAFTA

    GWB with the Iraq war.

    Hilary also voted in support of the Kyl/Lieberman bill. A bill that would label the Iranian army as a terrorist organization.

    I don’t see this experience Hiliary keeps touting.. What has she done with that so called experience? Maybe she means she has experience playing the political game, and she will sink to any level to win. People say well she was in the White house for eight years, so was Laura Bush, does that qualify her to be president?

  • http://greatmindsthinklikemerainlillie.blogspot.com/ rainlillie

    Michelle would make a great first lady!

  • 2BTru

    Can you do a collective HO SIT DOWN and put them all on time-out.

  • truthnot bias

    why would anyone vote for a person who cannot even get the respect of her spouse, if she cannot get the respect of bill how is she supposed to get the respect of othe leaders of the world. bill could not even take monica inside the car to get head he got head while hillary was in the white house. second if look at how her campaign has been managed she’s in the red. she lent her campaign money, she’s not paying vendors. once agin if she cannot manage her campaign money that is not as big as the us economy how is she going to be ready on day one when she hasn’t proven it. third i find it amazing that the very people who have worked under the clintons are supporting obama richardson,andrew etc. g

  • lovely and amazing

    Reverend Wright could have respectfully reserved his comments. Everyone, black white and of color knows there is validity in Wright’s point.

    But that is what racism does, it distracts and forces you to explain the obvious over and over again: racism exists, it’s really bad, it’s getting more secretive cunning and worse everyday.

    Wright whose words are against racism is actually working for racism mow and of course a cabinet seat in the never-going-to-happen Hillary white house.

    Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can!

    In spite of the crabs at the bottom of the barrell.

  • lovely and amazing

    working for racism *mow*

    working for racism now

    Pardon typo please.

  • lovely and amazing

    bee

    So that just means that everyone who is able to vote should vote. These older black people don’t want change because then they can’t make money on their books talking about black people being victims. We don’t need white people to be successful in this country. Let’s prove it.

    OBAMA 2009/2012

    _______________________________________________

    “These older black people don’t want change because then they can’t make money on their books talking about black people being victims.”

    ****

    I Co-sign 100%

  • that one girl

    I liked the speech that he gave about being different but that’s about it he keeps it real most of the time.

    When barack wins this election i think they will probably settle their differences.

    YES WE CAN 08!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anywhoo

    Please people, watch the NPC video. The man was like a professor giving a lecture about theology. His church is a “liberation theology” church. He explained that. He lectured about race in religion in America. He checked the press when it got out of pocket and reiterated some very strong ideas about America, but only when asked. This man was in the Marines in Vietnam and his family came from the South and he worked in poor Chicago neighborhoods for over 30 years. He spoke truth to power in a very academic and witty manner. See the video first. And for those who think he is blowin’ it for Obama — please. Anyone who gets offended by Rev. Wright’s comments doesn’t know American history very well and wasn’t going to vote for Obama anyway.

  • The Real Sydney

    From The Chicago Tribune:

    “Northwestern University has withdrawn its offer of an honorary degree to Rev. Jeremiah Wright after his controversial comments on race spawned a firestorm in the Democratic presidential nomination race and forced Sen. Barack Obama to disavow him.”

  • http://cheapdesignz.com Lawrence

    Leave Maya Angelou out of this. Black people have long memories… I still won’t support livesteez.com. Don’t actually know why I still come back here…

  • lovely and amazing

    Northwestern University stand up!

    Obama 2008-2016!

    Yes We Absolutely Can!

  • lovely and amazing

    Maya Angelou a former prostitute, a poet, and a movie actress who is also obviously very CAPABLE of self-hate, racism, the crab in the barrel syndrome, and doing the evil bidding of Clintons.

    She IS elderly and possesses a deeply conditioned enslaved mentality where she is most comfortable with a white person in charge. Pretty much simple as that.

    She is also married inter-racially. Obama could literally be her son, a legacy for which she has no regard.

    Oprah used her show to propel Maya from marginal cultural poet to mainstream figure. Maya is so conditioned and beholden to white people, she even disregarded her friendship with Oprah.

    Let “her girl” Hillary buy Maya Slave’s books.

    Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can!

  • Darth Masturbator

    WHO CARES. LOST, IRON MAN, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA & SMALLVILLE ALL IN ONE WEEK. THIS ROCKS!

  • Taz

    The HO that wrote this blog needs to sit down.

    Rev. Wright has done more for black people last week then you will do in a lifetime. Before you fall for the BS you need to check some facts.

    Your shuckin and jivin asses sit behind a computer maligning every black actress/actor on the damn planet….tearing down black folks while he attempts to build the black community and has been doing so before the vast majority of you were born.

    HO YOU SIT DOWN!! And any other commenter in this piece who fell for the media bullshyt…

    I am reading some of your statements. YOU ALL ARE JUST DUMB and I really and scared for the black community as a whole.

  • lovely and amazing

    Wright is Wrong for being a Billary mole.

  • CB

    Im with Charter Cub and Taz

  • fda

    Why hasn’t the media picked up on the fact that Hillary’s pastor is said to be a convicted child molester. I heard on WVON from a caller this morning. Is it true? Has anyone heard this? is it fair that Jeremiah Wright be dragged thru the mud for obama and not have Hillary questioned about her pastor or why she stays w/ the church.

  • The Real Sydney

    @Lovely and Amazing

    I’ve never spoken with you, but I really enjoy reading your posts — you have great insights.

    FYI, The Washington Post had a blog entry yesterday on Rep. James Clyburn’s remarks on Rev. Wright:

    For a Democratic superdelegate who is officially still unaligned, House Majority Whip James Clyburn (S.C.) is sounding more and more like a Barack Obama fan.

    In an interview today, Clyburn blasted the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor, but he suggested Wright’s recent re-emergence had not done lasting damage to the Illinois senator.

    “I have a daughter the same age as Barack Obama,” said Clyburn, the most senior African American in Congress. “I’ve tried to provide shoulders for her to stand on. And I was absolutely saddened when it became clear to me Rev. Wright, rather than providing a shoulder for his parishioner to stand on, was engaged in some kind of knee-capping operation. That’s not the kind of anatomical analogy we ought to be involved in.”

  • Taz

    @glok9n

    First of all you don’t know what I do in the community so fall back with that patna, seriously.

    Who brought Rev. Wright to the forefront?? THE MEDIA. They spliced a 15 yr old clip of his an put it in the news. If you watch the full clip he did not say the things or mean the things that they tried to portray him to mean. By EVERYONE’s accounts Obama sought out Wright some 20 yrs ago for his activities in the community. He allowed this man to marry him and baptize his children. Wright has been speaking like that for some 20 odd yrs. Obama knew this and should HAVE NEVER HAD Wright on his team because he is so antagonistic and their messages are so different. I said this to a friend before the fallout. Wright has been dragged through the mud and felt the need to defend himself. Was his timing good, NO. Was it crab in the barrel shyt NO, Wright NEVER asked to be put on the news, his recent appearances were reactions, not an action. But now you all are in here clowning your own on issues & history you know NOTHING about. Fox News set us up and everyone fell for it.

    Everyone needs to fall back and seriously take a look at what is going on……

  • BlackBeautyLisa

    Reverend’s Wright betrayl of Barack Obama goes right up there with Judas.

    UNBELIEVEABLE.

    I’m a religious woman and I have lost total respect for Rev Wright.

    Whether Rev. Wright’s last speech had some truth or not–doesnt matter. What matters is that this so called Man of God has made his own Giant Ego, Selfishness and Narcissism more important that than the future of this country, the future of soldiers who will continue to die in the war, people dying from healthcare, and innocent Iraqi children losing the mothers and fathers. Rev Wright knew full well that injecting himself back into the political spotlight right now would damage Barack Obama’s entire campaign in these make-or-break next few weeks. And Rev Wright has the nerve to use Jesus’s name and the Bible to try to destroy his friend’s career and ruin the future of America and the world.

    What An A$%hole.

  • GodsChild2

    Sorry, that was a test.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ C.C.

    Are you sure your siding with Rev. Wright isn’t tied to your overall disdain for black men and the fact that the idea of a black man becoming the most powerful leader of the free world gives you pause? The reason that i’m questioning your convictions is due to your earlier comments on the Something New Thread last week…And just to refresh your memory:

    “Many Black men hate themselves. They honestly believe that being with a non-black woman elevates them in the eyes of others in some way, when they should be concerned with true progress. They never seem to be able to open their eyes and see that the white, asian, and latina women they get were the ones that have been left behind by the men of their own race. I know many non-black women who never considered dating or marrying Black men until they were rejected by a white man. In short, this is America. White men are the only men that are truly desired. They have all of the power. No little girl has ever prayed to God to send her a Black man when she grows up. We all know this is the truth. I have seen too many women (of all races) have their lives destroyed by worthless Black men. And Black men, while you are all out here degrading and mistreating Black women, you continue to be locked up, beat and killed by the police, paid less than any other man in the country, villianized, and completely alienated in the education system, and from all positions of authority and prestige (and please don’t cite Barack, because if he becomes president he will be in that position for about 1 year before the real Washington power players find a way to remove and disgrace him)in mainstream American society. You all are known as the sorriest men on earth, unable and unwilling to support you families, your communities and yourselves. The only group of men to refuse to fight for their own freedom, actually lived in bondage for hundreds of years, until a white man started a fight to free him. In my opinion, leaving Black men alone is the best decision a Black woman could make. After all, sticking by Black men made Black women become slaves, servants, welfare mother, and gangsters. And though I have only dated very well educated and successful non-black men, I honestly believe a blue colloar white man would be better for any woman than a Black man at any level. He would definitely give and recieve more respect. Once the “other” women get a real understanding of what it means to with a Black man, they will leave you alone. Hell I know some non-black women in my own life, who have been left by Black men, with a houseful of fatherless children, who regularly tell me that if they had to do it over again they would have never become involved with Black men. And they are invisible to White and other non-black men. It’s like they can “smell” the nicca on them and they avoid them like th plague. And they are the loneliest women in America. Unable to find a good non-black man, and unwilling to get involved with another nicca. That’s how I know the problem is Black men. Most of you destroy everything you come in contact with.”

  • lovely and amazing

    The Real Sydney wrote:

    FYI, The Washington Post had a blog entry yesterday on Rep. James Clyburn’s remarks on Rev. Wright:

    For a Democratic superdelegate who is officially still unaligned, House Majority Whip James Clyburn (S.C.) is sounding more and more like a Barack Obama fan.

    In an interview today, Clyburn blasted the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s former pastor, but he suggested Wright’s recent re-emergence had not done lasting damage to the Illinois senator.

    “I have a daughter the same age as Barack Obama,” said Clyburn, the most senior African American in Congress. “I’ve tried to provide shoulders for her to stand on. And I was absolutely saddened when it became clear to me Rev. Wright, rather than providing a shoulder for his parishioner to stand on, was engaged in some kind of knee-capping operation. That’s not the kind of anatomical analogy we ought to be involved in.”

    ________________________________________________

    @ The Real Sydney

    Thank you for this inspiring post.

    It is so important that people like Congressman Clyburn are exposing, naming, and articulating the racist tactics being used against Obama. Since racism thrives on secrecy, complacency, and cooperation, it is critical that these racist tactics be put on blast at every turn.

    Senior Congressman Clyburn is courageous and his statement sums up the devastating truth of this matter. Thank you again for sharing this.

    Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can!

  • lovely and amazing

    @ C.C.

    You bring some painfully complicated truths to this forum. I don’t see your message as degrading, rather it is awakening. I hope that your intent is not to degrade but to awaken and evoke some positive changes from some painfully complicated truths.

    Peace and goodnight good people.

    Yes We Can!

  • Marquis de Sade

    I find it odd, that when black men date/mate outside of their race, they are going through some racial identity crisis or self-hate, but when the black women does the same thing, not only is it considered genuine, but justified. C.C. declares on the something new thread that black men doesn’t measure up, and you L & A, you all but congratulate her for it. Now if i as a black man would’ve declared the same thing (which i have on numerous occasions as a button pushing mechanism), you women rattle swords. What’s with the double standards?

  • lovely and amazing

    **and I enjoy reading your posts** Sorry about typos.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ lovely and amazing

    “But you never once replied to me then when we were in agreement. I honestly thought you didn’t like that a sister agreed with your criticisms of sisters.”

    Fair enough, and duly noted. I apologize if you felt that i ignored you, but since you validated everything i expressed at that time, i didn’t think it warranted a response, but trust, it was not meant as a sign of disrespect…In retrospect, i guess i do need to work on my internet etiquette though. Again, i apologize for the (interpreted) slight.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ Marquis de Sade

    I’m so touched by your response.

    I accept but there is no need for an apology. I just wanted to assure you that I was not being biased and that I was not slighting you or any other brother.

    It’s important for women to be impartial and hear men as well. It’s been a journey to reach this awareness but I was willing to listen take note and grow as a woman.

    That is why I made sure to clarify in my response to CC that I hoped her intent behind the criticism was positive.

    Marquis, your response is demonstrative of fine etiquette and a beautiful humility.

    Thank you.

  • C.C.

    @Marquis de Sade

    You questioning my convictions means exactly what you and your opinions mean to me. Nothing.

  • http://www.dbslayers.com AaniHaan

    HOW DARE YOU refer to Maya Angelou as a ho? The same freedoms that she fought for ALLOW Obama to even run for president. DISGUSTING. One less reader here. How much are you all selling your souls to Obama for?

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ C.C.

    “@Marquis de Sade

    You questioning my convictions means exactly what you and your opinions mean to me. Nothing.”

    And there’s our common ground C.C. – Our mutual distain for one another…DITTO!

  • lovely and amazing

    Marquis wrote:

    “And there’s our common ground C.C. – Our mutual distain for one another…DITTO!”

    _____________________________________________

    I have noticed that Marquis, even in his harshest criticisms of sisters, always has clarified with “some” “a percetage of” or “most”.

    Whereas CC, when criticizing brothers asserts that “all” brothers are bad and that “any” white man is beter.

    It is just not scientifically sound nor logical that any one group of human beings are “all” bad.

    To state so is not constructive criticism, it is a biased and bitter assertion.

    Scott Perterson seemed to be a great white guy handsome own business baby on the way and he killed his wife and almost due unborn child.

    No one suspected that Jefferey Dahmer, a mild mannered and employed white man, was kidnapping and cooking and eating black boys.

    Even some wealthy white men have been known to evade child support and leave their kids to welfare and poverty.

    Seal is raising the white child of a very wealthy white man who refused to acknowledge or support his offspring.

    And it was an Asian man who last year let his family’s van drive off a cliff with his wife and kids inside because of marital problems.

    Bill Clinton is a white man and he certainly can take a lesson from the Obama husband handbook.

    My point being, there are a lot of ill men in the world of all colors. There are also a lot of good men in the world of all colors.

    Obama 2008!

    Yes We Can!

  • C.C.

    @lovely and amazing

    One day you will learn.

  • Marquis de Sade

    @ C.C.

    So by that rationale, if and when you get married and procreate, what and how will you explain to your son (if you have one) that in your eyes, he is inferior, or will you only love and acknowledge the non-black have of his lineage?

  • C.C.

    @ MArquis de Sade

    God, you really are simpleminded. The inferiority of the Black male is not innate, it is learned, like a tradition (I’m trying to make this simple for you)passed down from generation to generation. Think of it this way: you know how quick you are to disrespect Black women by calling them derogatory names? Well chances are, you learned to replicate that kind of behavior from the men in your family and community. We all know that your sort of behavior is expected, and to some degree accepted because you are a Black male. No one really expects you to respect anyone, including yourself (as no self-respecting person would refer to anyone, least of all women using the language you use). And African-American men, collectively speaking, have always carried themselves in a low, false, infantile, completely emasculated manner. This is a learned behavior. My son will be learn differently, because he will be reared differently, with self-respect. His father, who will surely be an ethical, moral, successful, non-black male, will serve as his role model, and I, his mother, will instill in him a pride in his African heritage by illuminating the triumphs and sucesses of Black people who have not allowed themselves to become little more than morally debased caricatures, with no personal or cultural pride. My belief that most black males are inferior was not formed by any scientific or historic investigation. My opinion was formed by observing how they tend to neglect, disrespect,abuse, and misuse themselves, their families and their communities, and their lack of pride in their own heritage. In short my opinion was formed by watching them behave like trifling animals. By watching them behave like you. And please stop copying and pasting my posts from another discussion. You are obsessed with me and you need help.

  • lovely and amazing

    @ CC

    If you do in the future have a (as you have already planned a pre-meditated) biracial son, other people who discriminate against black men like you will also discriminate against your son.

    It’s the law of cause and effect.

    The key is to stop this oppressive thinking period.

    As you have stated to be an educated and successful black woman, have you ever considered volunteering to make a difference in the lives of young black men?

    Motherhood requires a universal and unconditional sensibility. You can’t hate black men and raise a male child who is also of black hertitage.

    I feel your pain. There are disappointing black men. But to say ALL and write off black men as a whole is quite Hilterish of you.

    And here Marquis has stepped out of his persona to meet you half way. And still you come back without even the consideration of the possibility of maybe just maybe there may be exceptions to your anti-black male rule and spew more venom.

    I’m too hurt by your words to engage this anymore.

  • momo

    The amount of options that woman have for birth control compared to men is of no issue. Only one method has to fail in order to get pregnant. So all those other options matter not. And the only option that we should really be considering for birth control and other reasons, is the condom. So wrap it up and stop blaming women. You’re just as responsible no matter how many options women have.

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