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OFFICER RICKY IS GETTIN OUT OF HAND

Unfortunate situation

**SMDH!**

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am 4th… plz tell me whats going on in this world?all the killing.

TUPAC SAID IT BEST, THE POLICE ARE A GANG!

LA LA LA

Okay, if I saw someone crawling through a window, was not sure if that was their home, and they would not respond to me (as police)…

HOW ABOUT TACKLING THEM??? Where in the scenario were they a threat to the officer’s life?

1-8-7!!!

@YOUNG’N
Yeah, right…. Cop killers get it the worst, and here’s the thing, there will never be a shortage of pigs looking to put a cap in yo @ss. But there will be a greater shortage of our youth who CAN escape drugs and gun violence.

.When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else. seems to be its cool to be as ignorant as possible in the black community wearing your pants hanging off your ass. butchering the english language and trying to be a thug. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER .

This is sad. I am not sure what to say. If the gun accidentially went off during the scuffle then it makes the situation that much more complicated. Why didn’t they just listen to police. We all know they are very trigger happy. We have got to do better in ensuring our own lives when cops are involved. But I want to see how transparent the city is when the results come back.

@SEV

I AGREE

Whatta freakin’ shame! I hate to read about stuff like this because its like a piece of me dies every single time.

I dont have to know them.

I don’t know all the facts but I do know you can control the situation with most cops. When I was a child, my mother told me to be respectful to the police no matter what. Have your papers in order, say yes sir or ma’am. Even if they cuff you, be respectful. What you say and do can make difference in where you end up. A ticket or jail is better than being murdered (it is what it is…murder).

@ Dayshifter

PREACH MAN…When I was young all the guys did what they could to avoid cops but if they caught them, they listened. Trying to battle the cops almost always tends to be a lose-lose situation.

@No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

**SMDH!**

hahahahaha yeah we def do think too much alike b/c that was my exact response, SMDH WOW THIS IS SAD.

Why did this officer even have to take out his gun??
a grown man cant take down a 15 year old??
thats the kinda of stuff I’m talking about, and while this 15 year old is dead this guy is sitting on is couch getting paid??

if they wouldn’t have been burglarizing somebody’s home….this wouldn’t have happened….again…don’t break the law…act right…it is that simple…

@ Dayshifter

You said it right! “yes sir/no sir” goes a loong way – black/white or other. Show respect to the police and they will put that gun back in the holster where it should stay.. It’s sad that a 15yr old was lost. But i really would like to have the details.. How many 15yr olds do you all know that act his or her age? Most 15yr olds i know want to be treated like adults and try to act like they are all grown up.

I want the HONEST details of what happened. and if the gun went off accidentaly then so be it.

@num1dominicano
Im gonna assume you didn’t read,
either that or your the num1IDIOT

learn to read before you comment!!!

Excessive force? Yes!

Ignorant children? Yes!

Justice? Hellz No!!!!

HEY TRUTH!!! How are you today?

@ Kami… Well said, I agree 100 %
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This is a very tragic story… when will this all end? Everyday its the same stories, but different characters… Its getting worse and worse as time goes by… SMDH

Knowing that police treat black kids the way they do why would you get into a scuffle with these mofo’s and give them a reason to kill your azz? I don’t get it.

I guess common sense isn’t to common these days!

It’s really sad that this happened…. but the “scuffle” should have never happened! When will negroes learn to stop trying to fight the system from the outside, but start using, re-creating, and manipulating it from the inside??? It worked for Thurgood Marshall!

@Kami All Day
YES, it does

what I don’t get is that if I don’t turn into uncle tom, now people are calling me ignorant?? When all im doing is standing up for myself.

Well maybe they shouldn’t have been burgalarizing the homes of others. this is so reminiscence to the Harvard professor. just do what the cops are telling you to do and noonewill get hurt. if he “belonged” there then why would a dscuffle have even ensued? why not just prove to the cop that he was supposed to be there as peacefully as he could have? I’d say this kid played a big role in his own fate. but i guess blacks will be marching across America for this kid who was clearly breaking the law then tried to fight his way out of answering to it.

Good Question – How do we stop something embedded in most of them through their family? Most racist cops breed other racist cops, unfortunately and it remains a vicious cycle that black people keep going through. We’ve always been their TARGETS in the 50’s and 60’s and evidently we STILL ARE.

@Keify

I don’t know if you don’t know or just don’t want to know. A 15 year old is dead for going to a house he was welcome at, do you really thing this 15 tried to pick a fight with an armed officer?? yeah maybe he had some words but I would have some too wouldn’t you???

until some of yall get around this kinda stuff yall will never know.

“Good Question – How do we stop something embedded in most of them through their family? Most racist cops breed other racist cops, unfortunately and it remains a vicious cycle that black people keep going through. We’ve always been their TARGETS in the 50’s and 60’s and evidently we STILL ARE.”

maybe black men need to get their criminal aspects of life in order before they start yelling their being victimized. you cannot account for over 50% of crime in this country and expect the cops to support you!

@Kami All Day

TRUE

but we will never come together look at all the comments, look at the people who find wrong in what the 15 year old did, when in fact we have no clue what he really did, Some black people just don’t see the stuff that us younger people have to go through and when we stand up for our selfs they turn their backs on us like what were doing is wrong, having respect is not always doing what your told but doing what you believe

@ Truth

Let’s take it to the Khloe thread!

@ Kami

I feel you. My cousin was just gunned down by Police last Friday in Brooklyn.

But I just want to ask you, why doesn’t it seem to be a problem that they went to scrapping with the cops? I grew up with you don’t deal with cops like that. An absolutel no-no. Okay we don’t know if the gun was drawn. It could have went off in the holster. Even if the person was wrong to call the cops, why did these boys have to fight the cops. That in and of itself (not correctly, but it is the reality) gives the cop a reason to act a fool.

@I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

That the thing who know who started the fight, everybody is saying the kid did but nothing says that, for all we know the kid could have said something the cop didnt like and the cop did something but we don’t know yet were belaming the 15 for getting killed????????

When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else. seems to be its cool to be as ignorant as possible in the black community wearing your pants hanging off your ass. butchering the english language and trying to be a thug. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER .
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@ sev so bcuz of all the things u jus said u think the cop had a right to kill a 15 year old boy with no weapon or was no threat to this cops life u sound real stupid what if that was yuor son u wouldnt care what he did or said that cop had no right to shoot him u r dumb as hell

Also, we sometimes get very emotionally charged in these situations. Accidents can happen. All these people are humans and errors are made. I know we don’t believe it when it comes to cops, but it can. Not saying it is true, I am just saying it can happen.

@real

he has no clue what respect for youself means
my mother taught to treat everyone equal,
and she taugh me that you have to give respect to get it no matter who you are. Just because I choose to dress a certain way does that does not say who im am, so if this 15 year old was dressed like a white kid your saying he would have not been killed????????

THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

@No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

**SMDH!**

hahahahaha yeah we def do think too much alike b/c that was my exact response, SMDH WOW THIS IS SAD.

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HEY! I was gonna add more than that, but then I thought it’s just too early for it! One fraise should be enough said!

Another blackman brutalized and killed by police in ever white america…..
another revolution will take place,sonner or later!!

@I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

I get what your saying, it just that I see this stuff every day cops stopping people for no reason, and it wrong but some people don’t see both side look at the comment, how can people say it sad but the kid should have not done this or that, when NOONE knows what really happend but the cop an the kid, so you know what Im sticking to the kids side no matter what this kid did or did not do it was not equal to getting shot, and you can say it was an accident or what ever but think about this, it was a 15 year old kid and a grown officer his gun had to be out right?? Ok why was the safty off???

Something about this story just don’t sound right.

@Talent2

I agree with you. I used to go to this gym and see these young white guys working out all the time well one day i overheard them talking about taking the exam to become police officers. well one of them said he was only taking the exam in a inner city becuase they paid more b/c of the higher crime rate. He also stated that he was scared and knew it was bad out there from what he sees on the news. I thought to myself prime example of a “accidental” shooting. He knows nothing about the city dont even wants to work in the city to police “protect and serve” make the streets safer and better and be a positive role model for one of these kids living in that area to see a cop actually doing his job interacting with the ppl he’s paid to protect and make a lasting impression, he just wants a check. And this is one of the ways he can get a decent pay with only a high school diploma.

When police go out on a call, they never know what they may encounter. They are trained to control the situation, if they see a situation becoming bad or not in their favor the are trained to use deadly force if needed. As a black youth and man knowing this, I did whatever I was told and gave them the respect of doing the job that they are paid to do. Not all police officers are bad. They have families to go home too. They have financial problems, problems with their children, health problems, fear of losing their life while on the job, fear of taking someones life while on the job, etc. They really are no different than you and me, except that their job could be considered extreemly dangerous and sometimes they have to make an instant decision- Him or me? Be mindful of this the next time you get pulled over by the men in blue and thank them for the job that they do. (turn the table on them) Only someone who wallows in ignorance would challenge authority while they have the upper hand.

All i wanna say is that they don’t really care about us

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I agree with Dayshifter, we have got to keep ourselves out of situations like this. I tell my son and he is only 9 that if approached by the cops, COMPLY, don’t mouth off and don’t fight. That way he will live for me to sue if I have to. We have so many cops out there, black and white who are just looking for a chance to kill our black men.

@Sanjor

I agree with Dayshifter, we have got to keep ourselves out of situations like this. I tell my son and he is only 9 that if approached by the cops, COMPLY, don’t mouth off and don’t fight. That way he will live for me to sue if I have to. We have so many cops out there, black and white who are just looking for a chance to kill

u wrote my exact point thank you!!! even though cops are hired to protect and serve many of them have the mantality of its them against us in reference to blacks and hispanics i dont think many of them think there are innocent black ppl or black ppl that are not up to somting illeagal. when they come out they dont care who you are the Gates incident proves this.

This sh!t is unacceptable on both parties. Police for a unjust shooting which resulted in a young man losing his life. The young men actions are unacceptable as well, if johnny law give you instructions just follow them its simple as that. If you wasn’t doing anything, you don’t have nothing to worry about.

@damn d
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i agree real shit

How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.

My last thoughs on this
this was a 15 year old kid, who was doing no wrong, but decided not to listen to what the officer had told him to do, ok was the kid wrong, in a way I say yes, but in a way I say no, if you read it says the caller called for a POSSIBLE burglary, now I seen stuff like this before where a person is locked out and it looks like there breaking in, and I have seen cops come up and TALK and try to see whats going on, yes they might have there hand on there gun but if they come up and say hey what your doing or somthing like that and be calm about it this probably never would have happened the kid could have expained whats going on and it would have been over, but that does not seems like the case this officer came up already thing bad, thing these kids were breaking into someone house, ok i can still kinda see that but what I don’t get is after he did not listen they got into a “scuffle” now I don’t think this kid was stupid so I doubt this officer had his gun out when they got into a “scuffle” he had to have pulled it out take the safety off and have has hand on the trigger, now was that an accident, I doubt it.

@Man, I just don’t care™

How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.

MJDC THAT IS Y I LOVE U. U FEEL ME B/C LIKE I SAID UP TOP I DONT WITNESSED MANY OF TIMES COPS TELL SOMEONE TO FREEZE THEY DO AND THE COPS STRAIGT START TO MANHANDLE AND KICK THEY AZZ THE PPL BE SCREAMING MOVING AROUND B/C THE COP GOT THEM IN A DAM CHOKE HOLD AND THEY TRYING TO BREATH AND U KNOW WHAT THATS CALL RESISTING ARREST LIKE I SAID I DONT KNOW THE FACTS BUT IM GIVING THIS THE SIDE EYE.COPS ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT AND CRIMINALS ARE DAMN WRONG BUT LIKE I SAID COPS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.

@snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

nothing to worry about
Yeah so tell me why is the other kid still in jail, what did he do?????

How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.
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If the young cat was wrestling with po-po, his lil a$$ wasn’t following instructions….lol

I think both parties were wrong on thisone. For one no matter howwelcomed to a house you are, climbing through windows will always alarm a neighbor and I can’t blame the neighbor for being alert thinking it was a potential burglary. Other than that the police were right to respond, but wrong to shoot…I think a lot of officers pass training to fast and become trigger happy for almost anything that begins to scare them. The boys should’ve listened and not talk back. A simple hands behind your head and stand against the wall would have done them much better. Explain yourselves and the situation later.

nothing to worry about
Yeah so tell me why is the other kid still in jail, what did he do?????
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Fighting with the police……i’m not justifying the police actions by any means, it was excessive, but at some point we got to teach our kids it’s better to use our minds, opposed to walking around with their chest poked out…

@ snoop,

Good morning and co-sign your comments at 11:12. Blame can be placed on both sides. May the young man rest in peace.

I’m sure if little Cody did the exact thing the end results would’ve been different. If you want to be a rebel you going to die what you stand for, but this sh!t could have been avoided.

serve’em right…

” hard hears ya don’ hear, own way winna feel”

My grandson is 11yo – 196 pounds – right at 6 feet, not fat, not bulked either – just a big kid, mentally an 11 yo. I am a cop and if I get a burg call and ran across a kid his size at night. And there were two of them there – which could mean there are more,I have to do what whats in my best interest. Kids and adults do not listen to commands any more, they want to challenge and question every order. When the cops show up, the cops are in charge, period! A 15 yo can kill you as fast as a 20 or 80 yo. I am defending the cop here until all facts are out, but if get in a fight with anyone, I plan on going home at the end of my shift. When you go hands on with the police, who whats to say your plan was not to disarm and shoot the cop with his weapon. I dont know if any of you live in cities where the police will allow ride alongs, but if they do, try to arrange one for a weekend if possible, especially a holiday weekend.

My grandson is 11yo – 196 pounds – right at 6 feet, not fat, not bulked either – just a big kid, mentally an 11 yo. I am a cop and if I get a burg call and ran across a kid his size at night. And there were two of them there – which could mean there are more,I have to do what is in my best interest. Kids and adults do not listen to commands any more, they want to challenge and question every order. When the cops show up, the cops are in charge, period! A 15 yo can kill you as fast as a 20 or 80 yo. I am defending the cop here until all facts are out, but if I get in a fight with anyone, I plan on going home at the end of my shift. When you go hands on with the police, who or whats to say your plan was not to disarm and shoot the cop with his weapon. I dont know if any of you live in cities where the police will allow ride alongs, but if they do, try to arrange one for a weekend if possible, especially a holiday weekend.

The one in the gray looks liek my aunt Dorothy who live sin Columbys, Ohio

Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children. Sad situation. Discipline your children and drive it in their heads. They want to kill you. Learn how to behave at home so you won’t die in the streets.

@Man, “How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????”
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I’m sure there are a lot of situations like this that have happened. This is just sad all the way around. Thats why I worry about my son. I remember my Mom telling me that children are a blessing but they come with alot of worries and concerns. Now I know what she means.

This is a terrible tragedy. But we don’t have the facts yet. The article says “a scuffle ensued” after the two boys refused to follow orders from the police. At this point it is too early to know whether the police acted improperly.

@Dai

Ok you say your a “cop” I never heard a cop call them self a cop but what ever I got a few question for you

First it was day time

ok if your called for a possible burg. and when you get there you see 2 people still outside mind you what do you first??

If you see the kid is 15 and you hear him say he not breaking in he is supposed to be here what do you do then??

We will never know the true fact of what happened because the only word we have is of the officer the kid is dead….

oh and one more if you see me and I was unarmed and say I started swing at you, your saying you would shoot and kill me???

I agree with the people who question why the young man was attempting to go through the windows if he was welcome at the house? The police did not just show up they were called so apparently the neighbors were concerned. I’m sick and tired of parents making excuses for their children action. Unless more information is release showing the cop is at fault I blame the young man. If he was welcomed all he needed to do was let the Police do their job and he would be breathing today. All Police are not bad, and all kids are not good. All police are not good and all kids are not bad.

Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children. Sad situation. Discipline your children and drive it in their heads. They want to kill you. Learn how to behave at home so you won’t die in the streets
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MY POINT EXACTLY!!

@ Cameron Turner

that what I am saying from reading that I get the feeling the that officer got mad that they were not listening and got phisical, but noone knows what happen and they probably won’t ever know.

HEY AUNT VIV…..

@Samantha

the other day I by locked my self out the house, had no key no phone so what did i do I went through the window, now does it look like im breaking in yes, was I know but the only way to find that out is by TAKLING to me, remember the caller said POSSIBLE!

I’m going to put Black youth up on some game. You are a target. When you walk out in the community there are enemy forces that want to do harm to you. Whether that is a under paid Police Officer, andother young Black male, a trifling female, pedaphile, rapist, etc. They do not want to see you make it. You are a threat. If you are doing something positive with your life they will try to take you out. If you are doing something negative they will use that as justification. You are not invisible, and you do not blend in. You are a target, because you represent our future. They are trying to destroy you or place you in confinement. Trap, tag, bag or release for monitoring. You have to be smart and stay on point in order to survive.

I live in the area where this happened and have a (black) husband who is a police officer in the area. Coupla things are that even my husband doesnt know who the shooter was and so we dont know if hes a white man or a black man, and also this is a pretty bad part of town (where I happen to live) where there have been many murders, prostitution (yeah even in a small town) and so on. There was a phone call reporting a break in and several officers responded.

SMH at everyone automatically blaming the police. They are just trying to do their job and keep our families safe. These fools were trying to rob a neighbor and it got bad for whatever reason. I feel awful about what happened but they were not just sitting around minding their own business and getting harassed by the police.

DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

Hi SMDH

SMDH where are you?

I just want to say this— ITS NOT ALWAYS THE OFFICERS FAULT. The first thing I noted was this article saying there was a SCUFFLE which let me know the young male was not cooperating!

When will our YOUTH learn and why when everybody dies, we want to paint them as the heavenly again.

To the family, I do offer my prayers and hope you get through this terrible ordeal in your time of lost.

My comments above reflect a bigger question to the picture versus the actual incident that happened.

@ Wreckless Driver

If you are a Black male you are a traget from multiple fronts. The sooner you realize that the better things will go. Regardless of whether the numbers say we are killing each other, that still makes you a target. If you know you are being hunted you are one step up on the game.

Black men are killed by black men 90% of the time, so cut the crap!

@why?

yall are all assuming things about this kid just because hes black and it not right, WHAT MAKES THIS 15 YEAR OLD A THUG?? BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE WAS DOING??

and by the way the immaturity does not change my opinion of this situation. if the kid weren’t breaking into someone elses house and resisting the cops he would likely be alive today!

“Black men are killed by black men 90% of the time, so cut the crap!”

B-I-B-L-E!!!!! but everyone wants to get up in arms when its a cop who is doing his job who is made to use force by these black men. ever notice how black people will march for the biggest most deserving of his fate criminal just because a cop was involved in his demise but when it comes to black men killing black men they “didn’t see anything”???

@chloe

and 90% of the time white people kill white people and your point is??

Learn this:

treat the police like you would being confronted by an attack dog. live.

@DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

but everyone is assuming the kid did something all this article says is that they did not do what the officer says, so that equals using force??

when a black/white kills a black/white its WRONG
my point is no one knows what really happen so why is everyone making this kid out to be some thug???

@ Talent2

I’m not making the kid out to be a thug. I’m trying to save you, brother. If the cops roll up on you, put your hands in the air and await further instructions.

@ Talent2 – You got to read between the lines on this. The neighbor was family and the boys were trying to break into her home. I don’t know if she called 911 or another neighbor did but she might have, then after the boy died she felt real bad about it and her statement was that he was always welcome in her home. She is family what she supposed to say after he’s dead? Maybe she called not knowing it was him. I don’t care what color a child is or what he wearing, you can’t go trying to get into somebody’s house through the windows when they are home if you have good intentions. Don’t matter if it was the owner of the house or somebody else called 911 but whoever called was a neighbor and I don’t think a neighbor would call 911 if the boys were actin right. Almost all of the kids in this neighborhood are black so black kids minding their own business wouldn’t make anyone call 911. I think we need to protect our own communities first and raise our kids right but if that doest work I hope the police will protect us. I have a young son and daughter in this neighborhood and I don’t want to be without some protection. Yes protection from my own neighbors. SMDH.

@Snoop Blog

What up son! Yeah…Too many of these situations can be avoided in the first place..smh

@ T REDD….. Exactly…..the professor at Harvard lucky he didn’t get his noodles knocked…..lol

keep blaming the people; it’s easier that way. The truth of the matter is the rate of crime in the American black society is startling. To make matters worse, these criminals are always taunting the police. I do agree with the assertion that the police need to get their act together but so do black people.

A 911 caller had said the two boys were trying to get into the house through doors and windows,

officers responded. When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued

@I am African not African American

I agree but your still assuming this kid was some thug and that the wrong part just because hes black that does not make him a criminal or does it???

@ This some Shhhh

I will not teach my son that kind of thinking. You got to believe in yourself and expect the world to treat you right. If you walk around thinking everybody is judging you right off, how you going to ever succeed? How you going to look someone in the eye and smile? One of the reasons I love the President is that he is a man who no doubt had some people look at him wrong because of the color of his skin. But he did not hate them for it and he did not assume everyone else would be the same way. You got to take people as they come and just like you want everyone to assume you are a good person and not some thug you should assume everyone is going to treat you right. Always assume the best about yourself and others and it is more likely to happen. You got to carry yourself with dignity and stay away from trouble. I always tell my kids to run and hide from trouble. Sometimes trouble finds you but mostly when trouble’s around, it means you went out looking for it.

Goodafternoon to ALL…Though, stories such as this is not uncommon, nevertheless it still hurts the same, especially when it could’ve been avoided. I know that not ALL cops are BAD, but it does seem that they are EXTRA TRIGGER HAPPY when it comes to ANYTHING dealing w/black males young or old, doesn’t matter. If indeed true that the boys were trying to get into the house via the door and WINDOWS then the only reasonable cause for alarm was trying to get through the WINDOWS–>never a good look either way. However, this took place in the daytime, clearly the boys did not have any weapons (based on the provided information)therefore, I do feel that the officer had clear visual to understand if both boys were a threat. Also, I understand and would want a CONCERNED NEIGHBOR however, I do believe that in some cases w/neighbors calling either something extra is being said that gets back to the en route officer that puts them on edge or hypes them up unwarranted. Gosh! back in the day it was the children burying the parents, now its all to often the other way around. It seems like parents and grandparents and even great grandparents are living longer than their own grandchildren and/or children.

@Talent2

We dont know what trully happened however, based off this statement: “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued” tells me that a degree of self accountablity and restraint needed to be exercised, which I believe a 15 old should know how to do. I’m not justifying the officers actions, however when the cops roll up, the score is already 5-0, and thats a helluva hole to dig out of……

Correction I meant to write that “not ALL cops are bad”.

wreckless driver said, “What you eat,don’t make me shit””

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i gotta use that one!

@dahonest, you cant make sense with these picture stealers and all day bloggers , they are chidish and obviously have a boring life and need to instigate on a blog.

I blame GANGSTA RAP MUSIC AND SNOOP DOGG!

@Ms.EJ

And thats what im saying for a situation like this the officer usually finds out what going on first, these kids were still OUTSIDE of the house, they had no weapons, no other info and people are calling these kids THUGs?? what did they really do??

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Crystal

@Crystal

“I will not teach my son that kind of thinking. You got to believe in yourself and expect the world to treat you right”
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You should expect the best, but the reality is it is not reciprocal……

Talent2

We don’t have the full story yet but from what was released, the boy(s) did not cooperate with the people and this lead to a scuffle or something of that nature. Again, goes back to what I said about black boys taunting the police. I am not supporting what the police did but if the boy cooperated, nothing would have happened. We preach anti-police tendencies in black communities as if all police as bad people. To rebel against the police is considered something cool. Truly a shame!!!

did not cooperate with the police*

Its always the africans what bumlick crackas

Im sorry people but face the facts that are given both of these young men were commiting a crime and becuase of that unfortunatly this was the root problem to why 1 of them was killed, how is anybody to know that he was not trying to get the officers gun and use it against him and if these young men had a bit of sense this probly would have been avoided, Please realize that although we no longer live in the old world that once meant if you stole your hand was cut off but aloth of these young people today are dying becuase our laws have become weak and we provide them with an excuse and make them believe thats it okay for them to commit such acts.

We must take responcibility and show them the right way.

Damn-it! I went to school in Champaign! I am speechless following this mess…

VERY SAD STORY, BUT THE FACT IS STILL….

WE KILL OURSELVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES.

Anyone that is raising a young black male or boy really and seriously need to stress to them that ANYTIME an officer, especially a white one (please do not get me wrong you have some black officers who are just as bad) approaches them, I do not care if its just an officer passing out a missing persons flyer BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR, because anything can be taken out of context. A bug could have bit you and made you flinch & they can take that as a sign of you acting suspicious or aggressive–>ok, ok that was a stretch, but you get the point. Teach them and tell them to do as the officer says, especially if you are being stopped in the car. Do not make any sudden movements, keep your hands visible at ALL times, and for goodness sake PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GET INTO SCUFFLES, ARGUEMENTS WITH POLICE OFFICERS. WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO SHUT UP, WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO OBEY THEIR ORDERS PLEASE DO IT!!!. You already have 2 strikes upon them approaching you: your black and your a man, and let us not get into if your well dressed, driving a nice car in an “upscale” neighborhood (as if blacks don’t have nice fiancially stabled or lavish lifestyles).

@I am African not African American

I just think it was uncalled for, this was a 15 year old, how many time have you seen a person start yelling at a police officer?? I see it often. what does the officer do yes he get phiscial, and might take a person down and if this kid would have just broken an arm or something I would have a different feeling but some how this cops gun came out, safety cam off and the trigger was pulled, and instead of people saying they both are at falt in someway people are calling this 15 year old a thug, and thats not right.

Follow police orders- black or white…what the hell are you scuffling with police for?
Don’t take away the fact that people have to be accountable for their own actions.
There is no damn point to prove when someone else has a gun!

@DAI-Greetings…I take it that you are an officer if that is true I pray that God continues to order your steps, and protect you from all hurt, harm and danger seen and unseen. I have a question in which I understand that you were not there, but in your opinion based on the provided information how come the officer just didn’t use his taser? I’ve seen plenty of incidents on CourtTV, Caught On Tape and cops where a scuffle did ensue,but the officer managed to use his taser at ease.

Maybe the kid wasn’t a thug, but if he was taught how to behave this would have been prevented… Yeah i see white people cuss the police out and don’t sh!t happen….We can’t compare apples to oranges, this life ain’t fair, we have advantages and disadvantages, and trust when it come to the police we’re the latter.

@Dai

Ok but say this was you your the officer
your told that a burg. MIGHT be in progress, you get there and the people are still outside and there telling you that this is where they are supposed to be would you listen to them?? are con. to try to arrest them,
cause look I understand what your saying but to me this story does not make sence maybe thats just me, but if I was the officer I yes I would have my gun out or at less my hand on it and find out whats going on first before I start yelling orders because remember the call the person was not sure what was happening

This could have been handled without the officer using his gun.

This boy is 15 and cops are trained to handle people using body force or enforcement techniques; not their gun.

Before a person is able to carry a gun and use freely- called a cop, more mental evaluations need to be used. Some type of simulation program and see how they react in different protocols with different races. And they need to be evaluated every 2-5 years.

Being a cop needs to be a test or requirements people must go throught to damn near become DEA.

@MISS B- I just was asking Mr/Ms. Dai his opinion as to why the officer didn’t use his taser, especially based on the many incidents I’ve seen. I do believe that in the United States officers are more prone to handle many incidents that can be otherwise handled without weapons with deadly force.

I always say it, PARENTS need to be step it up with their kids… All this trying to be big and bad with no education is played out and should never been in style. I understand his moms past away, but he wass 15 and by then you know the difference between right and wrong. He mad a bad decision, and the cop made an even wors decision in my opinion…

@free

noone said the kid started the fight, in my mind i believe the officer got phisical with the kid because he would not listen to his demands, and unlike dai this guy choose to use his gun

@SNOOP & TALENT- Agree with the both of you.

correction “era” not “error” lol.

@Will Alva

They did not commit a crime learn to read they were welcome to the house

@snoop

lmao!!

@Ms.EJ
The taser has a range depending on which cartridge used of 21 – 35 feet. It is not first weapon pulled on unknown calls, it may be secondary if the situation calls for it. All depts do not issue tasers and not all cops are issued or carry them.

@Ms.EJ

“One thing I will state for the record is that YES, I do believe that officers need to either be re-trained or have an additional more tedious course on how to handle situations that aren’t proven a high threat.”
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officers are not trained to think a situation through, if they did I believe there would be a lot more dead officers each year…just sayin

@ Tony Redds….

Officers aren’t trained tho think a situation through. They are trained by the books and what you will do.

They need simulation courses, my opinion

@Ms.EJ

No body cares about young black people no more, they write us all of as thugs

@TONY REDDS- I disagree or maybe I am not understanding, if so I apologize. Each and everytime and officer is dispatched to a scene and/or incident his or her first thing is to assess and analyze the situation of what is going on.

@ Talent2…

You are right. No one cares about young black people, not even their own families.

@MISS B- Agree with both of your comments.
@TALENT 2- I was just thinking the same thing as far as writing black males off as thugs (I noticed that in some of the comments) and I do not understand how that came to be. I can see if the above information mentioned a laundry list of criminal activities in the backgrounds of these young males, but it wasn’t, and they were still called thugs. SMH.
@WRECKLESS DRIVER- Thank you, because I vividly remember that program, and your comment is 100% true.

@SNOOP- Oh okay. I’m still cracking up LOL.

*they’re

@MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- Hey, you made a very good point the boy was a CHILD and the officer was a GROWN ##S MAN indeed.

I blame the state…I have taken many entry level police and firefighter exams. The bulk of the material is all situational scenarios and reading maps, not based on reading comprehension or arithmatic. They dont want a person who would think twice, they want the person who would make the best decision at the time even if it is a bad one….

15 the new 25….lmao!!!

@sev

“When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else…. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER.”

THATS THE DUMBEST THING THAT YOU COULDVE SAID. YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE’S PARENT AS A REASON FOR THE POLICE TO GO OFF AND KILL A CHILD?? ALOT OF KIDS DONT HAVE ANYONE AROUND TO TEACH THEM A THING AND THEY GROW UP TO BE THE BEST OF PPL. THE POLICE’S JOB IS TO “PROTECT & SERVE” NOT KILL PPL. LET IT BE YOUR CHILD/NIECE/NEPHEW WHITE/BLACK.ASAIN/HISPANIC OR WHAT EVER AND YOU WILL NOT MAKE THAT SAME JUDGEMENT

@TONY REDDS- Oh okay and I didn’t think about that from that perspective regarding that the state wants the person who would make the best decision at the time even if it is a bad one.

*typo* approaches

@WRECKLESS DRIVER- I couldn’t have said it well wrote it lol better, but in all seriousness we are RUNNING OUT OF TIME, and that is scary. Our work ethic has long gone out the backdoor for many reasons, but IMO the major contributing problem to that is UNITY. I was pretty much rasied around whites and hispanics (Souther California & later El Paso,TX) and I’ve seen the work ethics of the hispanics. It is a known fact that hispanics will take just about any job for low pay, whereas Americans feel that they are above a certain wage or working enviorment. The hispanics seem to not care, because they see the bigger picture which results in moving their whole family to the states into a beautiful big house in a nice area same with the Asians. It still blows my mind though how Asians can set up shop in a black neighborhood and make bank, but if a black own person does the same we turn the othe way. We seem to not support each other.

The fact is….

This little dude needs to respect authority and since some kids don’t respect their own parents, cops need to be trained on how to handle children in situations they are called out to. A gun should have never been used unless lil man pulled his own gun out.

Cops are not trained properly and something needs to be done about this.

@Snoop & Tony Redds- Whats Good fam

As far how to deal with a police officer…that line of logic is outdated and ineffective – its all subjective by your region. In some places like here its simply assume the position and those “non lethal” means are what you have worry about these days as more officers use them as it leaves less evidence and its generally considered to be a non lethal tool. In reality depending where you are sadly these days when it is your time it is your time. Robbie Tolan and countless others have complied to the fullest extent and still became victims, The only reason that I personally hold such disdain and sarcasm is because in any case in my lifetime I have yet to see any officer be held accountable or any serious jail time. Especially when one of use could get caught stealing a pair of socks and do more time. Or any of the supposed “good” cops stand out against those that disgrace any ideal of law enforcement..

@I’LL TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUCCA- 1000% true, I definitely can not come up with one story, NOT ONE and I’m in my late 20s.

miss b, have you ever taken one of the simulations that they give to officers? i have. you’d probably wind up dead in each of the scenarios. they go by very quickly; you’d be surprised at how little time you have to react.

@`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

what up boo!!! umm ur not gonna get anyone to answer that??? son. lol

@MISS B & TXHUSTLA15- Tell it!

tx hustla……whaddup fam, ready or this season to start??

Txhustla15

@Snoop & Tony Redds- Whats Good fam
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What up son!!! Yea it does depend on ur region…

@ free…

The point of those simulations are to evaluate how you react in quick situations…. they aren’t meant to go slow. No, I’ve never taken.

Tell me, did you pull your gun in every situation? Did they teach you how to not be trigger-happy?

Cops need to be evaluated in certain simulations I think that envolves more psychological/ mental aspects. Too often are these deaths race related.

I`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

I don’t recall one…..lol

@SNOOP

You got me dyin in here dawg talkin bout you was gonna pull a gun on that child! ROFLMAO.

@Ms.EJ
@WRECKLESS DRIVER

and unity we will never have
because no matter how hard we try the white people will knock us back down, so why try??

EX. I know some of yall heard about that black football coach (who took his team to the champ) that applied for a head coach job but lost it to a white guy who lost 19 game in a row

p.s. im not rasict at all like Ms.EJ I was raised around white people

I’m sorry, I just can’t force myself to “shuck and jive” for no white man. Police officer or not.

HE will refer to ME with “Mr.” and “Sir” at all times. His tone of voice will be subserviant and respectful at all times. HE will have to act like I pay his salary.

Call me what you want…

@Miss B

And if the gun was pulled first the story make no sence because nobody is going to go at a cop with a gun out

but we will never know the real story, I bet they got a deal in the works with the boy whos in jail,
they working on something, they wont answer no questions I guess they wants to get STORY stright

@TALENT 2
“EX. I know some of yall heard about that black football coach (who took his team to the champ) that applied for a head coach job but lost it to a white guy who lost 19 game in a row”
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NAW… where can read about that?

HE will refer to ME with “Mr.” and “Sir” at all times. His tone of voice will be subserviant and respectful at all times. HE will have to act like I pay his salary.
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LMFAO!! hope yo a$$ immune to pepper spray….

@TALENT 2- I know you aren’t, and I can read the concern and sad tone in your comments, because you just want better for our black men and for blacks in general…again I say it starts at home…its up to the rest if they want to join in.

@MISS B- You have officers who are control-freaks, you also have officers who are sick in the head and do get a thrill almost a sexual climax in knowing that they can kill someone, be put on paid administrative leave and get off. You also have great cops who truly do want to serve and protect the community, though I feel that is rare.

@Man, I just don’t care™

To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are

@ Talent2…

You already know. They are making threats or telling that young man if he says this or that, he won’t get any jail time.

@Talent2

“To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are”
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THANK YOU for agreeing with me!! That’s probably a better way of phrasing it to the poorly educated (in general by statistics) police officers!

@TALENT2 & MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- I agree 100% that to get respect you got to give respect, no matter who you are…but try that with a control-freak cop who has the mentality that he is already superior then you, its like a no win situation, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet if you want to make it back home to your family. The happiness on your kids face (if you have any) and all those who love you is way more important then a bruised ego per se. But I definitely understand where the both of you are coming from.

OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.

@MISS B- I was thinking the same thing.

And hold up I just found the first article its not one officer there was a police chief too. 2 grown men Vs A 15(don’t say nothing about the other kid yet hes in jail still 2 days later)

@Ms.EJ

OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.

LMFAO MS. EJ WHERE DID THAT COME FROM LMAO THAT WAS A GOOD ONE OK IM GOING BACK INTO HIDEING

@DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

Preach!!!!

OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…
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I wish all the women would put up a booty shot..;)

@ FREE…

I didn’t discuss last week.

And read my previous post and you will see my comments regarding the young man’s disrespect for authority.

And my point regarding cops and their training is that it needs to be BETTER!!!

@ Ms.EJ
OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.
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I don’t know how to do all the face posting and what not.

@ Snoop…

I wish all the guys would post frontal pictures

gravatar.com–>its free, and you can post your picture *sliding out the back door*

@ Steph…

on COPS, the white people get handled. Not by a gun as said, but by placing them in a headlock or in some manner restraining the individual.

Or they get the dogs out. But you never see them pull their gun out and pull trigger.

@THE TRUTH_PRETTY BROWN EYES- “we got a man down…” *flatline*

“@Talent2

“To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are”
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THANK YOU for agreeing with me!! That’s probably a better way of phrasing it to the poorly educated (in general by statistics) police officers!”

and in a perfect world both of you would be dead on 100% right. but in the REAL WORLD if you don’t want a bullet in your head or sphincter you will do what a cop tells you to whether you feel you are being respected or not! you don’t have to respect him but you need to abide by what he is saying or asking of you!

@ truth..i wasn’t kidding though…..lol

@Miss B
Your right…and thats my point…WHY IS THAT?

If the person climbing into the window had been White…I doubt they would have gotten shot, whether they talked or fought back.

Same offense…just different race…

@ talent2
My point is, is why is it only news when a police officer or a white person kills a black person? Black people are their own worst enemy, not the cops or “the evil white man”!

Hey Peeps!!

@ Chloe…

It’s the mindset of society

@THE TRUTH_PRETTY- Ah…no LOL e-things for anyone…I didn’t even know I gave off that vibe LOL for real though. Just simple interaction that’s all with everyone or so I thought.

I know how to deal with cops its one of my talents,
but where I live it don’t really matter, the cops are cool for the most part witch is weird

im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.

bunch and park

@Ms.EJ

@THE TRUTH_PRETTY- Ah…no LOL e-things for anyone…I didn’t even know I gave off that vibe LOL for real though. Just simple interaction that’s all with everyone or so I thought.

HAHAHAHA I KNOW I KNOW I WAS JUST KIDDING.

why would you scuffle with a police officer?? i mean why? sometimes you blacks are so dumb.

@THE TRUTH_PRETTY BROWN EYES- Oh okay LOL, plus I’m still semi- new to the site don’t want to step on anyones toes LOL.

I grew up with the corrupt L.A.P.D. Lennox sheriffs, firestone sheriffs and i know plenty of shootings and a$$ whoopings that don’t make the news…Do yourself a favor and follow instructions, to live and see another day…

Its been good echat later (The Truth, Talent2, Miss B, Wreckless) and everyone else…have a good safe day

@snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

I grew up with the corrupt L.A.P.D. Lennox sheriffs, firestone sheriffs and i know plenty of shootings and a$$ whoopings that don’t make the news…Do yourself a favor and follow instructions, to live and see another day…

snoop I know that as well as u do. But come on now LAPD NYPD and many cops all around the country not all but many are evil azz hell they look at as whoopings as a sport hunt niggz down and commence to straight azz whoopings. All im continuing to say is that u can listen to cops all u want follow instructions and them niggz will still molly whop ur azz. sick dogs on u. and put they foot in ur back or neck and thats real talk.

@Wreckless Driver

You might not want to believe it but for black people as a whole to come together we need white people, or like these mexicans we need to move when I get out of college do you think im gonna be working for a black guy, as much as I would like that I doubt it, thats why when a black person does something its so important because EX Obama, Dungy, for white people it an every day thing

@Ms.EJ

Same to you

@Ms. EJ

bye hun

snoop I know that as well as u do. But come on now LAPD NYPD and many cops all around the country not all but many are evil azz hell they look at as whoopings as a sport hunt niggz down and commence to straight azz whoopings. All im continuing to say is that u can listen to cops all u want follow instructions and them niggz will still molly whop ur azz. sick dogs on u. and put they foot in ur back or neck and thats real talk.
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I agree……i just want give them more ammo to justify killing my black a$$$…(lol) I gotkids i want to come home too, i’m not saying kiss their azz yes sir no sir deal, just don’t think you can cuss the out like lil Johnny and get he same outcome….

@Ms. EJ

Later!

@Wreckless Driver

And I get what your saying but answer this how am I going to better myself I go to school do the best I can but when I go for the job, a less experience white person gets it, my family not rich I cant start my own business, so one has to give me a break, let me ask you what do you do for a living??

I don’t agree with what happened. I will say, that the police will NEVER stop killing us, for any reason they feel like, if we can’t get ourselves under control. A blk life,(IN ANY COUNTRY) is still worthless, this happens everyday, in almost every country. We don’t even respect ourselves, but want others, too.

The police are wrong, and they have been wrong before. However, everyday I am tried of seeing blk on blk violence/ death. It’s stupid and I wish it would stop. These situations make me feel powerless and I abhor feeling this way…

Until we change, you can be damn sure that noone else will change…

Just my 2 cents..

“im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.”

i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me!

Naw.. I take that back @THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

U should change ur name to (UR OPINION) not THE TRUTH….

@ always knew…

I agree

i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me
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sounds like somebody lives in the ghetto, i dn’tsee any of that where i live even though i know it goes on in every ghetto, trailer park and barrio…If you want to feel safe get moneand move out the ghetto, i did

SORRY THE YOUNG MAN WAS KILLED BUT WE SHOULD ALSO TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO RESPECT AUTHORTY. THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYD STILL AND NOT MOVED A MUSCLE. OFFICERS ARE IN A SERIOUS POSITION TO PROTECT THEIR SELVES AND THE COMMUNITY. RESPECT THEM . YES THERE ARE SOME REALLY FOUL COPS OUT THERE BUT I DOUGT THEY SET OUT TO KILL THIS YOUNG MAN.
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completely agree

@DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

“im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.”

i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me!
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It has to do not only with media but where you are from as well.

If i see a group of black men, it depends on the actions they are portraying. Even if i’m scared or not, I say, “hello” and continue walking. It’s a mentality and why fear a person of they have not showed you any harm.

I am more likely to fear walking near a crowd of white men… WHY? I am from the South… hopefully enough said.

“sounds like somebody lives in the ghetto, i dn’tsee any of that where i live even though i know it goes on in every ghetto, trailer park and barrio…If you want to feel safe get moneand move out the ghetto, i did”

Actually I live in a very upper middle class area of New Jersey. the ghetto is by far the only place the black man does his dirt! But you can assess it however you choose to – the point being that I do not fear the white man one third of how much I fear a black man.

@Wreckless Driver

You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, analyzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

The cause is “Deprivation.”

When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.

some of u ppl dont understand.i knew him and he was like family yo me.these police here dont give a damn bout no black ppl even the black policemen.so b4 u make a comment u need to think.

@I’M HERE TO HELP
“You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, analyzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

The cause is “Deprivation.”

When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.”
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You need to start over on your dissertation.

We need to teach respect to our children. Respect God, your parents, authority and each other. That seems to be lacking these days.

I am not scared of people who look like me.

I would NEVER allow someone to influence what I KNOW to be true, about my own. Too bad, you took what I saying literally. I was just iusing an expression. Too badm you took it to mean, you thought I was running behind massa/ wht man…

You completely missed the point, being made. And I’m not upset or offended by it, because the perception issue, is exactly why our community is in the shape that it is. World wide we have no power, when we can’t control, our people being killed. This is happening everywhere. Stop being so naive, trying to turn into us vs. them. Deal with the issues, maybe then we can get pass this ignorant ish….

Opinions are like a–holes: everyone has one…

@ Awesome..

Agreed. The children lack b/c parents lack, but we have to start somewhere.

We need to put fear/respect for GOD and Life.

@Man, I just don’t care™

You need to start over on your dissertation.

LMFBAO U R SUCH A BEAST SOMETIMES LMFAO Y WAS THAT WARRANTED. Y LMAO Y!!

HOW CAN A PARENT TEACH SOMETHING THAT THEY NEVER LEARNED????

FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER IT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN OUTSIDE!!!!

@Man, I just don’t care™
THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHITE PEOPLE STICK TOGEHTER LOOK AT THIS TOPIC LOOK AT ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE CALLING THIS 15 YEAR OLD A THUG AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN A PICTURE OF HIM.

@Man….

Why?

This lil man could have been trying to show off. it’s considered cool to not follow rules…. sadly he’s dead over it.

@ sev & Hannibal

You say its the black mother and fathers fault for not teaching there kids, ok fair enough. Then it’s the white mother and father fault when their kids commit suicide, and go on mass murder killing sprees right! I guess they didn’t teach there kids either….

@THE TRUTH
“You need to start over on your dissertation.
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LMFBAO U R SUCH A BEAST SOMETIMES LMFAO Y WAS THAT WARRANTED. Y LMAO Y!!”
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For real tho. Did you read what they wrote? Took them 3 pages to not say a thing. SMH.

@I’m here to help….

QUESTION HOW DOES ONE GET DEPRIVED???

@Man…

Clearly, you are not serious. I asked for reasoning. Not more self-loathing.

@Awesome-O-3000

AND THE FUNNIST PART ABOUT THAT IS THATS IS NOT THE BLACKS WHO ARE MAKING THESE STORY’S NATIONAL AND LOOK WHAT IT DOES TURNS BLACKS AGAINST BLACK

Its going down out in these streets. Mothers protect your babies by keeping a stern eye on them. Know where there at and who there with at all times. Yes, the task is impossible at times but do your very best. At the end of the night Pray for your family.

My husband is a strong and kind black man and a police officer. He is a good father, very, very good to me (the mother of his children and his wife), and is college educated and very intelligent. Why should HE, if he is busting up a fight or responding to an emergency call or participating in a drug bust, call anyone SIR?! To get respect, you have to respect. I’ve been pulled over for speeding and so on before and I always am polite, apologetic for my speeding, and friendly to police officers. They always treat me with respect back (I am a black woman).

My husband hates nothing more than to be out doing his job and trying to approach someone and that person responding with all that defiance and hatred. Both black and white men have this attitude with him and he always will make their experience with him as painful as possible (not necessarily physically, but will be tough on them in some way). He say that latino and asian men are generally very respectful and he usually ends up being a lot softer on them. To get respect you got to give respect. Many officers like my husband just out there doing there job to protect our families and put food on the table.

talent2

@Awesome-O-3000

AND THE FUNNIST PART ABOUT THAT IS THATS IS NOT THE BLACKS WHO ARE MAKING THESE STORY’S NATIONAL AND LOOK WHAT IT DOES TURNS BLACKS AGAINST BLACK
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What pisses the black community off and causes an uproar…. racist crimes, black on black crime.

I totally agree with you.

Hey Snoop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

MIJDC♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

@BE

HEY BEAUTIFUL

@Crystal

HUH??

YOU SHOWED RESPECT AND YOU GOT RESPECT, RIGHT AND YOUR POINT IS?????????

Hey The Truth!!!!!!!! :

How’s the car? Did you drive over 100 yet?

@I’M HERE TO HELP
“Clearly, you are not serious. I asked for reasoning. Not more self-loathing.”
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Dude, you stated “deprivation” was a cause root of ills in the community but then you stated:

“…Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.”

That doesn’t show HOW deprivation has created the ills. Granted, you gave some symptoms but you need to clearly state HOW the deprivation leads to the ills in ways that are measurable and objective.

You do this BEFORE commenting on possible solutions (although that shouldn’t be done in a disseration).

I’m willing to bet you will need to start over. **depending on your university**

Hey BE!!

Its going down out in these streets. Mothers protect your babies by keeping a stern eye on them. Know where there at and who there with at all times. Yes, the task is impossible at times but do your very best. At the end of the night Pray for your family.

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Sound advice

really as a black male I teach my son to just yes sir the cops and do what they say. At the end of the day I just pray that God keeps him safe when I’m not around you never know the ill intentions of other people

Da honest truth……Why are you scared of the BM? Have you been a victm? I’m not here to rep for the black man, that is not my job….I just don’t understandhow a successful ivy league grad in suburbia see all this you speak of??? I stayed in the hood most of my life and seen it all, but i’m far removed from it now, and only time i see it is on the news…..* shrugs*

@ BE…

Thats all you can do… Teach, teach, teach and pray he makes the best decisions and ask for guidance in situations he does not understand.

Whaddup BE…..how’s life treating you??

and I am just reading some of these comments,
people quit blaming people. Folks want to say, awh, he is just 15, give me a dang break, a 15 year old today is equivalent to 21 if you ask me, its not the same day and age, they think they are grown and act like it to, they curse, drink, hangout, drive, burglarize, and do all the shyt grown ups are doing so they need to be treated like adults.

And in reference to all the comments saying I said the boy was a thug, NO, I didnt reference him as such, I said there was a scuffle so clearly somebody didnt LISTEN when they should have, then I went on to mention BLacks need to lose this THUG mentality.

Education is key, turn it sometimes and you can see whats on the other side of the door instead of whats in that tiny box you live in!!!!

Black AMERICA is killing BLACK America, not the White man, not the Chinese Man, not the hispanic man, BLACK MAN!
Black men dont speak to each other, barely help each other, always out to get the next BLACK MAN, why, because somewhere down this damn line we have lost WHO WE ARE!!!! its nobody’s damn fault right now but ours because we are not raising our kids to have family values, to be respectful and all the other stuff. We tell our young BLACK boys, stop crying, thats for girls, men dont cry, and all this shyt, be tough, which ok but damn, we are HUMAN!

@Snoop – Whaddup BE…..how’s life treating you??

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Life’s good, busy with kids and school…mafia wars..etc..lol

@DaHonest, “and i am pretty sure the majority of them will tell you they fear other black men much more than they fear white men. sad but true and not my fault!”
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Wow!! I hope a white man never does anything to you because you will be SOL!! Yes there is a horrendous problem with black on black crime, but I’m not about to lump all of my black brothers together and throw them under the bus.

Life’s good, busy with kids and school…mafia wars..etc..lol
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people send me mafia wars invites on FB, and i just ignore that sh!t…..lol

damn, i didnt realize people in special ed understood what an extreme issue was? Hmm, makes me wonder, are we wasting taxpayer dollars?
LMFAO!

Hey This some ssshhh!!!

LMFAO@Miss B

An internet thug, that is a new one, im loving it! LMAO

and the correct editing would have been:
“you addressed my comment in a dumb manner yet your response indicate you are the same. ”

Sorry you are so uneducated and your opinion is just like azzes, everyone has one!

Ol sweet

WHat happened to the other picture? I liked that one

@Man…

Actually, the topic has been approved and the university is a 2nd tier school. However, I see your point and keep in mind gave a quick synopsis of where I started and where I want to go.

In the actual study, deprivation is seen as the disease and the social ills are the symptoms. Some of us are able to be cured though many of us cannot be and will not be.

Give an example: In the healthcare debate one Congressman from Florida stated that the Republican’s Healthcare plan was two fold: 1. don’t get sick and if you do, 2. die quickly.

In the rural south, African Americans are twice as likely to die as a result of not having access to adequate healthcare. There, when you don’t have insurance, if you go to the doctor, you must pay upfront before you are seen. Studies showed that white rural south residents without healthcare could be seen on “credit.” When interviewing some residents, comments ranged from, “I don’t feel as if my life is valuable” or “I feel as if don’t exist” to “I don’t matter.”

Now, my earlier comments stated that the deprivation causes these types of feelings. The connection can be made across the board to crime, apathy in school, as well as the black on black homicide rate in any major US city.

Didn’t say deprivation was the only cause. Just the root.

Leaving work….will take couple hours to respond, but I use all comments on this subject as an opportunity to further understand this phenonmenon.

Thanks.

Hey JB!

Hey Coretta!!

LOL

What up BE????

Girl, you better slow that thang down. Getting speeding tickets and what not.

thanks for helping me get thru my day though, it really makes time fly by!

@ WHY?

Girl, grow up!

No, it’s just the ignorance behind it!

Hey JB/Dorothy

this some ssshhh – I was doing 76 in a construction zone…i was only supposed to be doing 35MPH – had to get a lawyer to plea bargain and then take a defensive driving course.

Put your helment on WHY, wipe your mouth, and look both ways before crossing the street. My comments weren’t address to you, but I guess Special Ed folks get real defensive.

@This is some Shhhh….
Got my helmet on, wiped my mouth, and reached out for your hand since we are in the both class, I didnt want to leave you hanging….thanx friend
LMFAO!

@ BE

You went to court and the class, and they still took points and suspended you? Here, if that was your first speeding ticket, you can attend class, pay the fine and it’s removed.

NOTICE: BOTH CLASS versus same Class
(I figured u would understand it better if I wrote it wrong since we are special)

If curiosity will get your cat kill,
What will kill your dog, Knowing?

LMAO@This some Shhh, you kno we’z both sitz behindz each others, u slob on me, i slob on you—
I love u friend!

@This some Shhh….

@ BE

You went to court and the class, and they still took points and suspended you? Here, if that was your first speeding ticket, you can attend class, pay the fine and it’s removed.

mama what the hell were u doing going that fast in a contruction zone i ought to reach through this internet and spank u for that u know better.

@ WHY?

Find some other nuts to swing on, these are taken.

It said they got in a scuffle with the cop. If you attack a cop they will shoot you; duh.

OTAY@This some shhh…..
Sorry to pull ur balls
thanx friend
I love u

good night all

@ Man, I just don’t know…

Are you on facebook?

Bye Be.
Later WHY?

It has been a long day..I need to go take out my frustrations on the volleyball court.

Bye Bye… have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one more hour to go before I can head home, whew!

@ NewOrleansBaby…

New Orleans East or downtown?

@HF
Yassabossin’ and shuckin’ and jivin’ just so a pig don’t violate my civil rights?

BZZZT…

Civil rights??? I’m talking about not getting a bullet in you @ss. I’ll shuck and jive if it will save my life. And allow me to get revenge legally!

8th ward

@ NewOrleansBaby…

Okay. I use to work downtown oil and gas. Same field, now across the causeway

What a shame.

But this I know. There are good cops of all races. And there are a$$hole cops on powertrips of all races. I personally don’t like cops. And I’m white. And they have attitudes and have their self-righteous mentality with us too. So one part of me is like, jerk offs…you had to pull your gun on a 15 y/o kid? He obviously wasn’t man enough to handle the situation verbally.

On the other hand, I know how kids are today. They are arrogant cocky mo-fo’s, who think nothing of challenging authority and when confronted revel in the opportunity to do so, instead of humbling themselves and doing the right thing. Plus, how many times have you seen 15 y/o’s on the front page news these days up for armed robbery and murder? ALOT!!! So we see 15 y/o kid and go, awwww, poor thing…. whoa, step back.

Hopefully this mayor meant what he said and plans to get to the bottom of the story and holds the guilty party(s) accountable accordingly.

No matter what though, it’s a cryin shame.

oh, that’s wassup. I work off of Causeway by Lakeside.

@MISS B
“Are you on facebook?”
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Myspace.c o m/JCSTANSB

**EVIL LAUGH**

I feel like this cop pulled that gun because they see our black youth as animals so he didn’t care when the boy probably was “mouthing off” and he decided to shot, he felt like he was above the law and better than him, and just knew he caught him in the act. i hate them

@ Man, I just don’t care…

WOW…. LOL.

I was trying to get some pics of you. I can’t even makeout your profile picture…

Louisiana, Baton Rouge huh!!

@ Man….

No I could not make out your picture. I am on facebook. Name is Batini.

I work towards Mandeville

@ Man…

Anyways, bout to head home…

I don’t have a myspace page, just facebook. I deleted due to drama.

Nothing is going to happen to the officer who done it and black people ain’t gonna do nothing about it and THATS WHY IT KEEPS HAPPENING.

This saddens me deeply and my thoughts and prayers are with them family. However, why has this become a racial issue? It was an accident (hopefully) but I do not think that everytime a person of African-American descent is harmed or killed by someone who is white, that the question of race is brought into the forefront. It is 2009 and we have a bi-racial president. Can’t we ever get past this issue? If a young white boy had been killed by a black police officer in this same situation, I can bet that there would not be accusations against that officer for killing the boy because he was white. Let’s all bond together and leave the race issues aside and get to the REAL issues here. Why were the boys trying to get into the windows or what the neighbor saw/heard that made them decide to call 911. Why and how did the officers gun fire? I am a former US Marine and I am aware that a gun doesn’t simply fire on its own when in the holster. If that is the case, what was the situation that made the officer need to take the gun out of his holster and take it out of safety? I’m sure none of this was because the boy was black. I sure hope not. But I think it is rather ignorant for any of us who do not know all of the facts would just ASSUME that. THAT’s where the real racism comes into play. My thoughts are with the family of this young boy who was taken from them too early. God Bless.

while it’s true that you should always follow what the police say and that they should have listened the first time, police aren’t notorious for picking on black males for nothing.
no one said the boys had a weapon or a gun, all it called for was a simple tackle. killing a 15 year old boy was completely unnecessary. in this case, i’m not sure about all the details, but this is racist and sad to me.
the boys were being hoodlums, yes, but again, it wasn’t necessary to kill him.

We want the police to stop the murders in the neighborhoods and when they try to respond and someone happens to get killed in the process because of not following the rules of the land we want to call it racism. I hate to see any kid lose their life especially at the hands of an adult but we are speaking with a double edge sword. you can’t have your cake and eat it too! Parents/adults you are going to need to spend more time with your kids installing value and teaching them the laws of the land. I’m sick of seeing black youth killing each other in the streets and dying at the hands of police. there is corruption in every aspect of life however, it is way more of black youth killing each other than at the hands of police or hate crimes.

It’s time to face reality and look in the mirror and see who the real enemy is. It’s so much easier to blame someone else instead of taking responsiblity for your own life because that requires work.

It is easier to raise a strong child,than it is to repair a broken man…Brothas in my age group have failed at showing the life lessons to our young brothas growing up today.We never replenished the water from the well of success,to allow another generation to drink from it.Individually we as Black Men,have made it to the White House,but collectively we are still on the outside looking in.I will NEVER understand how a race of people can earn 1 trillion dollars annually,and be in such sad shape.Our brothas and sistas outside the U.S. look at us,and ask what happened to the black folk who wore Afros and Dashikis,filled with pride and love for all things Black.We Black Men have left our post as providers and leaders,but most of all,teachers of our black sons.We MUST realize brothas that if we don’t show our sons how to live,there WILL a man in uniform with a gun and a badge who will show them what death is all about.

@Ask The Black Dude
Ditto and Amen!

As a Black person myself, i dont think he should have been out rooaming the place at 1 P.m in the night? WHere are his parents? Nobody wants to get mad until after something bad happens, God rest this poor boys soul, But we need to take care of our kids, make them honour students and provide as much parent gaurdianship as we can, THEN when stuff happens after weve done our best, we can get mad

Meee,

PM means afternoon IDOIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Idiot!!

@4real The undercover cop never fired or turned his weapon on the uniformed cop,but got shoot three times c’mon man!

Typo I meant to say shot.

@Meee

WOW LOL this is what Meee said…

“As a Black person myself, i dont think he should have been out rooaming the place at 1 P.m in the night? WHere are his parents?”

Ok first P.M. is afternoon, they were let out of school early and read is mother is dead.

And so yall know it was not one cop but two who killed this 15 year old!!

but was he ordered to drop his weapon?? I’m not making excuses for it but this is the reason why our judgements are not infident because we only know what the media says. I do believe that there is corruption in the police force but how can we pin point a few incidents and ingore the bigger picture? stop pointing out the spec and take a look at the beam! We have to look at our own being first and take responsibility for our own actions because we can’t control anyone elses action. there is probably some youth reading our comments and are ready to blame their conditions on someone else. your surroundings don’t make you, you make your surroundings!

Hmm.Hmmmm
Dont make no sense.

SMH! damn shame

A black child was murdered by a cop, all of these uncle Tom’s want to blame the kid. Cop tells a lie and said the gun went off accidentally, BULL S!@#!!! When are we going to wake up!!! Blacks are hated by everyone, mainly African Americans. Reading some of these comments, we also hate ourselves. WE need to change this and real soon!!! Hannibal, come out of hiding, so that you can be dealt with accordingly, and Sev, whatever your name is you should do the same thing cause their are a lot of brother’s that would like too see you on some real street sh!@, including my self!

Biggie said it best, “in order to change the world you have to change yourselves. The blame game has got to stop!!!

HOW SAD! AND WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM TO HAVE TASERS B/C??? ALL I EVER READ ABOUT IS ELDERLY PEOPLE AND PREGNANT WOMEN BEING TAZED! IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEST THING BUT WHEN THEY SHOULD USE THEM THEY DONT AND WHEN THEY SHOULDNT THEY WILL! HE WOULD STILL B ALIVE TODAY AT LEAST. ALSO I WISH THEY WOULD STOP USING THE SORRY EXCUSE THAT THE GUN JUS WENT OFF GUNS DONT JUS GO OFF STUPID PEOPLE WITH GUNS MAKE THEM! SMH ANOTHER YOUNG BLACK MAN DEPRIVED OF HIS LIFE MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY.

@ talent2

And I get what your saying but answer this how am I going to better myself I go to school do the best I can but when I go for the job, a less experience white person gets it, my family not rich I cant start my own business, so one has to give me a break, let me ask you what do you do for a living??
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I am part owner of a Neighborhood bar and i run a personal security company that staffs bars and night clubs with security people. I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and did 4 years of college when i got out. You have to set a goal for yourself and be single minded about achieving it. It takes hard work and SACRIFICE! You have to be able to go without certain things in order to achieve your goal. that is the part most folks don’t seem to get or be willing to do. If it means giving up going and out and partying for 6 months to a year in order to save some money,then DO IT! SACRIFICE is the first step in achieving your goals. Learn to do without that which will only give you short term pleasure in order to attain your long term goals. That is the best advice i can give to you or any other young person out here who is trying to make it. Good luck to you in whatever field you choose to pursue.

I’m here to help….

@Wreckless Driver

You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, analyzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

The cause is “Deprivation.”

When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.
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I agree with your synopsis somewhat. I also am a firm believer in the theory that “if one can diagnose an illness then one can cure it” we all can sit back and trace the origins of what it is that ails us as a people. We have many great minds who to this day continue to use it as consistent talking points. Where i am is at the stage of CURING the sickness which much like religion can be debated but in the end all leads to the same source. No matter how it is you’ve come to believe that we ended up in the fix that we find ourselves in,the important thing is solving the problems. We can all agree that we are suffering from a great affliction,what we need to do now is come up with an aggressive form a treatment before the ailment kills us. Those of us who acknowledge the sickness are at a far greater advantage than those of us who are in denial.

I really have to stop reading the comments on here… the level of ignorance confounds and amazes me… The police mistreat these young black men because they know that they can…. and then you sit up here like trained monkeys and acquiesce. If you are lawfully in your residence then the police can not enter without a warrant unlees they can prove exigent circumstances… secondly you have the right to resist an unlawful arrest.. the law is supposed to be colorblind… but I guess as long as you keep shuffling and answering to massa we’ll never achieve equality in this country.. you idiots blaming 2 unarmed children … when we should expect BETTER from the police considering we pay their damn salaries

I’ll be the first one to get on the Po’s for their BS, but the way the story read, you can’t tell whether the officer pulled his gun out and fired purposely or if it went off accidentally. The cops probably over reacted, and the boys should have just responded to what they asked, but the shooting may have been an accident. However, the family should request an additional autopsy to confirm one way or the other, because who knows if they will try to falsify results.

Young men, I know they harass you and make you angry, but PLEASE, just do what they tell you to do… get badge numbers and have them held accountable later.

Tell me how do you accidentally pull your gun out, accidentally take it off safety, and accidently blast someone in the chest?
This is the same officer that was involved in the death of another man a few years ago. the officer name is Daniel norbits.
accident my ass!

Thank you excessive force for sharing the articles. This is very unfortunate and my prayers are w/ Kiwane’s family and friends. So often we are quick to judge and offer an opinion before we get the whole story. I was born and raised in Champaign and I know this is nothing new for anyone in the community – regardless to what some said. At the end of the day this really has nothing to do with race but more of abuse of the badge. It happens all the time. Don’t get me wrong there are some decent officers there, but they go overlooked. There were some very strong comments made on here and I will not comment on those because everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I ask all of you that have made a comment to not judge until all the facts are out. This young man – regardless of what anyone thought he was doing – did not deserve to lose his life. I pray that none of you have to experience any of this in your own family.

stop the damn blame game and change!!! I’m sick of hearing the shit! No response when it’s black on black crime. where is the outcry then? sick of hearing it.

@ excessive force !!!
Yea I know the area too, and I know the area HE lived in….You also failed to mention he was kicked out of school for fighting, thats y he was at the alternative schoool in the terminal BARELY going and passing that! He sold drugs and used drugs, rand with gang members…so like i said TYPICAL HOODLUM…next!