Jesus Take the Wheel: 15 Year-Old Black Boy Killed By Police

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October 13th, 2009

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This is a crying shame, these police officers are way the fu*k out of hand:

CHAMPAIGN – Members of the black community mourned one boy’s death and called for another 15-year-old to be released from juvenile detention Monday. Kiwane Carrington died Friday afternoon after being shot in a scuffle with police. Another youth, whose name has not been released, is still being detained and will have a juvenile court appearance today. Such appearances are not open to the public. Laura Manning, the mother of the boy still in custody, said at a Monday press conference that her son is a slight youth who has not reached his full height. She said he was not a threat to a police officer who, along with Police Chief R.T. Finney, confronted him and Mr. Carrington at about 1:20 p.m. Friday after a neighbor called 911 to report a possible burglary at 906 W. Vine St., C. The boys had been let out early from READY school and went to a house where Mr. Carrington had stayed last summer, and was a frequent visitor. At a press conference Monday at the Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center, Debra Thomas, who lives at the Vine Street house, said the teen was a good boy and was welcome at her home. A 911 caller had said the two boys were trying to get into the house through doors and windows, and officers responded.When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued, and the unidentified officer’s handgun went off, according to police. He was placed on paid administrative leave, Deputy Chief Troy Daniels said on Friday.

Police were not commenting on the accusation Monday. “When the facts are in, the city plans to be fully open and transparent about what happened,” Mayor Jerry Schweighart said Monday in a prepared statement. He said the investigation, led by the Illinois State Police, could take several weeks.” This has been tough on our community, and our sympathy goes out to everyone involved,” the mayor added. Kenesha Williams, Mr. Carrington’s sister and guardian, was at the press conference. Family members said he was a good kid who had been troubled in the last year, after his mother died of pancreatic cancer. Thomas also praised the young man, and asked, “How was it burglary when he was welcome there?”

She said police, not burglars, had damaged her house, including breaking off the back door. Family members also said they were not notified of the young man’s death for several hours. Community leaders called for more openness from the police about the investigation into the shooting. “Everybody is edgy. There are more questions than there are answers,” said Champaign County NAACP President Jerome Chambers. “How do we stop our black boys from dying where the authorities are the ones in question?”

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485 Responses to “Jesus Take the Wheel: 15 Year-Old Black Boy Killed By Police”

    Hannibal

    10/13/09, 09:14:am

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    Hannibal

    10/13/09, 09:14:am

    OFFICER RICKY IS GETTIN OUT OF HAND

    I AM LEGEND (A Wise Man Told Mont Argue With Fools)

    10/13/09, 09:14:am

    Im on my N.W.A ***** ***** the police

    Nique

    10/13/09, 09:16:am

    Unfortunate situation

    No u can't be boyfriend #2!

    10/13/09, 09:17:am

    **SMDH!**

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    tasha lisa jamaican princess

    10/13/09, 09:19:am

    am 4th… plz tell me whats going on in this world?all the killing.

    Jermaine

    10/13/09, 09:20:am

    So where was your “Black honors student beaten and stomped to death by black teenagers” headline, Bossip? Is it only important when it’s a white person who does it?

    Hannibal

    10/13/09, 09:20:am

    TUPAC SAID IT BEST, THE POLICE ARE A GANG!

    I AM LEGEND (A Wise Man Told Dont Argue With Fools)

    10/13/09, 09:21:am

    LA LA LA

    Anita Faker

    10/13/09, 09:21:am

    Who called the cops in the first place for the disturbance?

    If he was welcomed why was he going through the window?

    What was the scuffle for?

    See this is WHY I tell my son and my nephews DO NOT argue or fight don’t give them a reason.

    Unfortunately, my nephew thought some boys were after him they said they were going to kill him. When an unmarked car showed up my nephew started blasting. Good thing he had a bad aim. Bad thing he shot up an undercover cops car with the cop in it and charged with attempted murder.

    We just gotta do better.

    Re

    10/13/09, 09:22:am

    Okay, if I saw someone crawling through a window, was not sure if that was their home, and they would not respond to me (as police)…

    HOW ABOUT TACKLING THEM??? Where in the scenario were they a threat to the officer’s life?

    YOUNG'N

    10/13/09, 09:22:am

    mane thats *****ed up *****s always getting blasted by the pigs…we need to do like cali *****s do and kill cops

    DayShifter

    10/13/09, 09:26:am

    “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued, and the unidentified officer’s handgun went off….”

    Why do we get into these damn situations?!? When I was growing up, we did everything to avoid any type of aggravated situations with cops, mainly because NYPD was bussing caps in everyone’s @ss. Do your d@mn best “yes, sir/no, sir” slave imitation and live to sue and file a complaint later on. Black people stop fu*cking with the cops, after enough lawsuits and public outcry ***** will change, remember money talks!!

    Wintz

    10/13/09, 09:27:am

    Damn! What a sad reality. Y’all need to wake the ***** up and do something about this ***** America.

    Hannibal

    10/13/09, 09:28:am

    1-8-7!!!

    I AM LEGEND (A Wise Man Told Dont Argue With Fools)

    10/13/09, 09:34:am

    “Do your d@mn best “yes, sir/no, sir” slave imitation”

    That has got me out of a few speeding tickets

    DayShifter

    10/13/09, 09:34:am

    @YOUNG’N
    Yeah, right…. Cop killers get it the worst, and here’s the thing, there will never be a shortage of pigs looking to put a cap in yo @ss. But there will be a greater shortage of our youth who CAN escape drugs and gun violence.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 09:35:am

    @Wintz:

    Our “america” isnt going to do *****. They dont care about the plight or downfall of black people. In their eyes, we are our own KKK. They sit back and do absolutely nothing. Laughing all the while…..

    ….while we are
    -bangin’ on each other
    -rapping about chains, money and pimpin’ hoes
    - talking about how much money they have
    - talking about how “real” they are in the streets

    WE need to do better. We can only change us, but so many of us dont see whats wrong and put a blind eye to the fact that our young black men are dying; whether by our own, or by the police.

    Why, if we dont care about our own, would they care???

    We take pride in the “no snitching” bull*****. Whereas, if one of their kids is killed, EVERYONE is open to finding who, what, where and why.

    We dont give a ***** about nothing but music, sports and “ballin”.

    sev

    10/13/09, 09:36:am

    .When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
    please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else. seems to be its cool to be as ignorant as possible in the black community wearing your pants hanging off your *****. butchering the english language and trying to be a thug. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER .

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 09:37:am

    This is sad. I am not sure what to say. If the gun accidentially went off during the scuffle then it makes the situation that much more complicated. Why didn’t they just listen to police. We all know they are very trigger happy. We have got to do better in ensuring our own lives when cops are involved. But I want to see how transparent the city is when the results come back.

    Hannibal

    10/13/09, 09:37:am

    @SEV

    I AGREE

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 09:37:am

    Whatta freakin’ shame! I hate to read about stuff like this because its like a piece of me dies every single time.

    I dont have to know them.

    Infinit45 (I love a women in heels)

    10/13/09, 09:38:am

    I don’t know all the facts but I do know you can control the situation with most cops. When I was a child, my mother told me to be respectful to the police no matter what. Have your papers in order, say yes sir or ma’am. Even if they cuff you, be respectful. What you say and do can make difference in where you end up. A ticket or jail is better than being murdered (it is what it is…murder).

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 09:39:am

    @ Dayshifter

    PREACH MAN…When I was young all the guys did what they could to avoid cops but if they caught them, they listened. Trying to battle the cops almost always tends to be a lose-lose situation.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 09:40:am

    SMMFH.

    The person who called the cops should have to explain how they thought this was a “break in” with no broken windows or doors.

    How does a grown ***** man get into a fight with a 15 yr old??????????

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 09:41:am

    Most of these cops who are walking around are racist anyway and toting a gun on their hip gives them some sorta hard-on….knowing they could shoot anyone for any reason and lie about the reasons why. They know they have the equally racist judges and prosecutors on their side to back them up.

    They are the modern day KKK.

    My dad always said that NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS will a cop be able to whoop a black man’s ***** WITHOUT the badge. Take that ***** off and THEN show me how tough you are.

    They cant and wont. They are *****es to the 10th degree. And the invention of the gun was the ONLY way for them to beat us.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 09:45:am

    I wish I was alive back in the day when the Black Panther was on and poppin’.

    I’d die for my people (then)….as long as I outed a few dozen cops, I’d go down as a martyr.

    Not now though! People have no respect for themselves or their own people so I cant stand up as much for them.

    Get me a *****in’ AK and start sprayin…..:) If only…..

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 09:47:am

    @No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

    **SMDH!**

    hahahahaha yeah we def do think too much alike b/c that was my exact response, SMDH WOW THIS IS SAD.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 09:49:am

    Why did this officer even have to take out his gun??
    a grown man cant take down a 15 year old??
    thats the kinda of stuff I’m talking about, and while this 15 year old is dead this guy is sitting on is couch getting paid??

    num1dominicano

    10/13/09, 09:53:am

    if they wouldn’t have been burglarizing somebody’s home….this wouldn’t have happened….again…don’t break the law…act right…it is that simple…

    interesting..

    10/13/09, 09:53:am

    @ Dayshifter

    You said it right! “yes sir/no sir” goes a loong way – black/white or other. Show respect to the police and they will put that gun back in the holster where it should stay.. It’s sad that a 15yr old was lost. But i really would like to have the details.. How many 15yr olds do you all know that act his or her age? Most 15yr olds i know want to be treated like adults and try to act like they are all grown up.

    I want the HONEST details of what happened. and if the gun went off accidentaly then so be it.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 09:58:am

    @num1dominicano:

    Not always the case. A young black male sometimes can do nothing and be har*****ed by the police.

    For example, I was at the park in late August and saw a group of black boys just hanging out in a park like everyone else does when they come to the park. Just chillin, playing around.

    What next?? Not one, not two, but THREE cops pulled up like they done found the culprits in a high ring drug cartel. Getting out the car asking what they were doing. WTF??

    On the flip side, I saw white boys congregating downtown in front of a hotel riding their *****ing skateboards up and down the block, annoying patrons who were coming in and out. No cops in sight.

    No wouldnt you think that they (the cops) would have approached them because they were loitering in front of a place of business??

    NOPE!

    So, thats not always the case.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 09:59:am

    @num1dominicano
    Im gonna *****ume you didn’t read,
    either that or your the num1IDIOT

    learn to read before you comment!!!

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 10:00:am

    But my question is: Why do WE have to turn into uncle tom’s when being approached by the police??

    And why do they automatically have their hand on their gun when approaching??

    Does seeing black equal pulling out guns??

    I’m curious to know.

    Brooklyn, Stand UP!

    10/13/09, 10:01:am

    Excessive force? Yes!

    Ignorant children? Yes!

    Justice? Hellz No!!!!

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:01:am

    HEY TRUTH!!! How are you today?

    ShawnM

    10/13/09, 10:03:am

    @ Kami… Well said, I agree 100 %
    ___________________________________

    This is a very tragic story… when will this all end? Everyday its the same stories, but different characters… Its getting worse and worse as time goes by… SMDH

    Brooklyn, Stand UP!

    10/13/09, 10:03:am

    Knowing that police treat black kids the way they do why would you get into a scuffle with these *****’s and give them a reason to kill your azz? I don’t get it.

    I guess common sense isn’t to common these days!

    Keify

    10/13/09, 10:03:am

    It’s really sad that this happened…. but the “scuffle” should have never happened! When will negroes learn to stop trying to fight the system from the outside, but start using, re-creating, and manipulating it from the inside??? It worked for Thurgood Marshall!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 10:04:am

    @I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    HEY TRUTH!!! How are you today?

    HEY BABY GIRL IM GOOD HAVE LOTS OF WORK. BUT WORKING EVEN HARDER TRYING TO FIND A HALLOWEEN OUTFIT TO WEAR TO A BOO BASH LOL. I CANT SHOW OFF ALL DADDY GOODIES BUT I STILL WANT SOMTING SEXY LOL.

    BUT THIS IS A SAD SITUATION MAN HOW MANY BLACK MEN TEENS HAVE BEEN “ACCIDENTLY” KILLED BY POLICE I STOPPED COUNTING.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:05:am

    @Kami All Day
    YES, it does

    what I don’t get is that if I don’t turn into uncle tom, now people are calling me ignorant?? When all im doing is standing up for myself.

    Brooklyn, Stand UP!

    10/13/09, 10:06:am

    And my question once again is- Where the f*ck are the parents in all of this?

    All these youtube clips I see daily of groups of teens jumping each other and acting a fool swinging sticks & bats at each other/ Where are the adults in all of these situations?

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:07:am

    @ Truth

    No French Maid?

    My friend found a sexy pirate get up if you are interested.

    But let’s take this convo to a different thread….this is a serious one.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 10:09:am

    Well maybe they shouldn’t have been burgalarizing the homes of others. this is so reminiscence to the Harvard professor. just do what the cops are telling you to do and noonewill get hurt. if he “belonged” there then why would a dscuffle have even ensued? why not just prove to the cop that he was supposed to be there as peacefully as he could have? I’d say this kid played a big role in his own fate. but i guess blacks will be marching across America for this kid who was clearly breaking the law then tried to fight his way out of answering to it.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 10:10:am

    Notice how there are ALWAYS excuses for the “whys”.

    Gun went off accidentally.

    I felt threatened. (more like I was scared)

    They did _________________

    He did ________________

    It looked like a gun he was holding.

    He looked like another suspect.

    The *****ing list goes on.

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 10:12:am

    @I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    @ Truth

    No French Maid?

    My friend found a sexy pirate get up if you are interested.

    But let’s take this convo to a different thread….this is a serious one.

    NOOOOOOO GET OUT THE PIRATE JOINT Y WAS I ABOUT TO COMMIT TO THAT IM GLADE I DIDNT I KINDA FIGURED EVERYONE AND THEY MAMA WOULD HAVE THAT. U LEAD THE WAY TO ANOTHER THREAD.

    @Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo…..)

    Notice how there are ALWAYS excuses for the “whys”.

    Gun went off accidentally.

    I felt threatened. (more like I was scared)

    They did _________________

    He did ________________

    It looked like a gun he was holding.

    He looked like another suspect.

    The *****ing list goes on.

    SCREAM THAT ***** AGAIN MA NO I WANT TO TO GET ON A *****ING LOUD SPEAKER THAT IS TOOO TRUE. THE MOST COMMON BULL***** EXCUSSES OF Y THEY ARE *****ASINATING OUR BLACK MEN.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 10:14:am

    Talent2:

    And this is the very reason that we need to embrace each other and quit all the hate towards each other.

    Dont you all understand that they pit us against eaach other for a reason?? I’m not going to get all deep into that, but the more they divide US, the less power we will have to fight anything.

    I keep telling my friends and ***** that the one thing that the cops would be AFRAID of is of we ALL came together and bettered our communities and created love within it. Seeing us all getting along (though you obviously cannot like everyone), but for the most part, if we ALL stood up as ONE….

    …they would ***** their pants for fear of what we’re about to do next and what the ***** is going on.

    As long as we are killing each other, they dont fear us. Period.

    tg

    10/13/09, 10:14:am

    Good Question – How do we stop something embedded in most of them through their family? Most racist cops breed other racist cops, unfortunately and it remains a vicious cycle that black people keep going through. We’ve always been their TARGETS in the 50’s and 60’s and evidently we STILL ARE.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:15:am

    @Keify

    I don’t know if you don’t know or just don’t want to know. A 15 year old is dead for going to a house he was welcome at, do you really thing this 15 tried to pick a fight with an armed officer?? yeah maybe he had some words but I would have some too wouldn’t you???

    until some of yall get around this kinda stuff yall will never know.

    I HATE THE "N" WORD

    10/13/09, 10:16:am

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo…..) I AGREE 100%, I used to get mad but judging how we we glorify all that ignorant ***** why should we not expect this to happen. Yes its unfortunate but if we would raise ourselves to do better whether by the police or our own hands it will continue.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 10:16:am

    “SMMFH.

    The person who called the cops should have to explain how they thought this was a “break in” with no broken windows or doors.

    How does a grown ***** man get into a fight with a 15 yr old??????????”

    the same way that white cop got into a fight with that young black girl and punched her in the face – remember the one where all you guys thought it was so appropriate and hilarious???? that girl didn’t even touch that cop but this kid was literally fighting a cop.

    he sadly brought it on himself as so many of these black male “victims” do.

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 10:17:am

    They have us so brainwashed with videos, clothes, jewelry, money, etc….that we cant even think outside that box.

    We have become the JESTERS FOR WHITE AMERICA.

    Bust a damn dance…..SMH

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 10:18:am

    “Good Question – How do we stop something embedded in most of them through their family? Most racist cops breed other racist cops, unfortunately and it remains a vicious cycle that black people keep going through. We’ve always been their TARGETS in the 50’s and 60’s and evidently we STILL ARE.”

    maybe black men need to get their criminal aspects of life in order before they start yelling their being victimized. you cannot account for over 50% of crime in this country and expect the cops to support you!

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:20:am

    @Kami All Day

    TRUE

    but we will never come together look at all the comments, look at the people who find wrong in what the 15 year old did, when in fact we have no clue what he really did, Some black people just don’t see the stuff that us younger people have to go through and when we stand up for our selfs they turn their backs on us like what were doing is wrong, having respect is not always doing what your told but doing what you believe

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:21:am

    @ Truth

    Let’s take it to the Khloe thread!

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:23:am

    @ Kami

    I feel you. My cousin was just gunned down by Police last Friday in Brooklyn.

    But I just want to ask you, why doesn’t it seem to be a problem that they went to scrapping with the cops? I grew up with you don’t deal with cops like that. An absolutel no-no. Okay we don’t know if the gun was drawn. It could have went off in the holster. Even if the person was wrong to call the cops, why did these boys have to fight the cops. That in and of itself (not correctly, but it is the reality) gives the cop a reason to act a fool.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:26:am

    @I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    That the thing who know who started the fight, everybody is saying the kid did but nothing says that, for all we know the kid could have said something the cop didnt like and the cop did something but we don’t know yet were belaming the 15 for getting killed????????

    real

    10/13/09, 10:28:am

    When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
    please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else. seems to be its cool to be as ignorant as possible in the black community wearing your pants hanging off your *****. butchering the english language and trying to be a thug. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER .
    —————————————————–
    @ sev so bcuz of all the things u jus said u think the cop had a right to kill a 15 year old boy with no weapon or was no threat to this cops life u sound real stupid what if that was yuor son u wouldnt care what he did or said that cop had no right to shoot him u r dumb as hell

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:32:am

    @ Talent

    No, no, no…I am definitely not blaming anyone for getting killed. I think we are all jumping to conclusions here. You are right, we don’t know and unfortnately we might never know the truth. All I am saying is when I was younger, the boys I knew, they stayed away from situations like this and did what the cops said. Now true, you know the cops could be saying whatever. One boy is in jail and the other is dead. I am just trying to keep it all neutral and in perspective. As I stated earlier this is a sad situation and ON FRIDAY a family member was shot and killed by cops in Brooklyn. I am trying to look at everything neutrally and hopefully gain perspective on my own, personal situation. For example, my cousin that was killed had never did drugs (to our knowlegde) before then. He was a good kid, honor student. On Friday he did something (still not sure what yet) and he was wilding out!!! I mean stabbed up his Step-father (they had a great relationship….this is the only man he knew). I am just saying let’s look at all the cir*****stances too. Something could have happened. My “normal” cousin would have never charged police. The drugged up boy did. Are their similar cir*****stances here?

    cindy

    10/13/09, 10:32:am

    UMM why didnt the neighbor instead of calling the cops. Ask them what they were doing breaking in the house, if it is the case that they knew the owner. Someone commented why didnt they use the front door? In all ask yourself when was the last time you entered someones house through a window? hmmmmmmmmm does that mean that when you get in the house you sleep in their bed too?? its about common sense people, Now a days you have to think people carry guns. it could of been the owner who shot him and then what? At the same time we have a lot of cops who fail to know how to deal with black youth. If this is the case dont be a cop. Work in a cubicle or something.

    I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    10/13/09, 10:34:am

    Also, we sometimes get very emotionally charged in these situations. Accidents can happen. All these people are humans and errors are made. I know we don’t believe it when it comes to cops, but it can. Not saying it is true, I am just saying it can happen.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:35:am

    @real

    he has no clue what respect for youself means
    my mother taught to treat everyone equal,
    and she taugh me that you have to give respect to get it no matter who you are. Just because I choose to dress a certain way does that does not say who im am, so if this 15 year old was dressed like a white kid your saying he would have not been killed????????

    No u can't be boyfriend #2!

    10/13/09, 10:35:am

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    @No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

    **SMDH!**

    hahahahaha yeah we def do think too much alike b/c that was my exact response, SMDH WOW THIS IS SAD.

    ___________________________________________________

    HEY! I was gonna add more than that, but then I thought it’s just too early for it! One fraise should be enough said!

    Manuel

    10/13/09, 10:36:am

    Another blackman brutalized and killed by police in ever white america…..
    another revolution will take place,sonner or later!!

    *****CATFUN

    10/13/09, 10:38:am

    WE NEED SOME BLACK PANTHERS IN TIME LIKE THESE!

    I’M SICK OF SAYING THE SAME ***** OVER AND OVER ABOUT THIS SAME SITUATION…WE NEED RESULTS!

    KEYSHA LIKES IT HOT

    10/13/09, 10:39:am

    SORRY THE YOUNG MAN WAS KILLED BUT WE SHOULD ALSO TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO RESPECT AUTHORTY. THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYD STILL AND NOT MOVED A MUSCLE. OFFICERS ARE IN A SERIOUS POSITION TO PROTECT THEIR SELVES AND THE COMMUNITY. RESPECT THEM . YES THERE ARE SOME REALLY FOUL COPS OUT THERE BUT I DOUGT THEY SET OUT TO KILL THIS YOUNG MAN. I JUST FEEL IT IN MY GUT THAT THYE MUST BE SUFFERING, SAD, MAD, SCARED TOO ABOUT WHAT WENT ON.

    IM SORRY FOR THIS MOTHERS LOSE SHE JOINS A CLUB SHE NEVER WANTED TO BE A PART OF.

    FYI: IF A OFFICER TELLS YOU TO DO SOMETHING DO IT DONT *****ING TALK, WALK, OR MOVE A PINKY ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE A GUN IN THIER HANDS AIMED AT YOU. COMMON SENSE!

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 10:39:am

    Talent2:

    Very true! You seem like a person with a good head on your shoulders. PLEASE dont go astray!!!! We need more young adults like you out here!!

    This is why I want to create some sort of group for young adults to come to to talk about their issues and voice their opinions without ANY backlash.

    We MUST care about our kids. We must care about their situations and not always think they are in the wrong. And if they are, we need to find ways to change their paths and give them resources that will help them create better lives.

    When young black kids feel good about themselves and their abilities, they are less likely to carry bitter and negative attitudes about themselves and others.

    We need to listen. To be open with our youth. Like you said, turning backs on our kids is the wrong way to go.

    WE have alot more to go through than they do. Our black men come home disgruntled and angry because they cannot find jobs and take it out on the black family (which then divides us). Young black girls are constantly being belittled down to their *****ies and *****, which makes them think that they are nothing more than that. Young black boys are har*****ed by the police for no reason (at times) which causes hatred and anger. Black women have to compete in the workplace with white women who are getting promotions over them simply because Amber chose to suck a ***** and Tanisha went to college for that degree. They help create hostility….though not their fault 100%, but this is what is happening on a smaller scale.

    It all begins in the home. And as long as there are young mothers and young fathers who are having babies without acknowledging that EDUCATION is key, and not getting the new Jordans to keep up with someone else, the more and more we will dwindle into mideless robots, imitating fake ***** artists who are also NOT doing much with their lives.

    Rapping is not a REAL career. Lets get it together.

    Whoa! aka Toot-it-up!

    10/13/09, 10:40:am

    *sigh* everytime I hear/see this type of ***** it makes me not want to ever have any children especially a son. Being a black male = automatically guilty. When a cop shoots a black male it will always be justified. How the hell can you protect yourself against those who are supposed to serve and protect you?

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 10:43:am

    @No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    @No u can’t be boyfriend #2!

    **SMDH!**

    hahahahaha yeah we def do think too much alike b/c that was my exact response, SMDH WOW THIS IS SAD.

    ___________________________________________________

    HEY! I was gonna add more than that, but then I thought it’s just too early for it! One fraise should be enough said!

    I know what u mean and it seems like ppl want to argue already. I dont have time for that *****. All i can say is that this ***** sounds really fishy. what stands out to me is when the cops said a scuffle ensued when the they didnt comply with police. ummm i dont know about u but from witnessing first hand eyewitness. A person can do all a cop wants them to do put they hands up freeze etc and u know what the cops do they straight man handle them grab them by the back of the head twist they arms back and slam them to the ground and all types of ***** sometimes even still sick the dogs on them. so im just saying we dont know all the facts but umm im def giving this the side eye.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 10:45:am

    @I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983

    I get what your saying, it just that I see this stuff every day cops stopping people for no reason, and it wrong but some people don’t see both side look at the comment, how can people say it sad but the kid should have not done this or that, when NOONE knows what really happend but the cop an the kid, so you know what Im sticking to the kids side no matter what this kid did or did not do it was not equal to getting shot, and you can say it was an accident or what ever but think about this, it was a 15 year old kid and a grown officer his gun had to be out right?? Ok why was the safty off???

    Atl_Finest

    10/13/09, 10:48:am

    Something about this story just don’t sound right.

    MIMI

    10/13/09, 10:51:am

    I don’t feel like this today…so I’m getting off of Bossip website! This world is *****ed up and full of hate, there are few true role models that give back from the heart. Some people can not distingush between rap videos and real life. Some parents don’t want or care about their kids….

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 10:56:am

    @Talent2

    I agree with you. I used to go to this gym and see these young white guys working out all the time well one day i overheard them talking about taking the exam to become police officers. well one of them said he was only taking the exam in a inner city becuase they paid more b/c of the higher crime rate. He also stated that he was scared and knew it was bad out there from what he sees on the news. I thought to myself prime example of a “accidental” shooting. He knows nothing about the city dont even wants to work in the city to police “protect and serve” make the streets safer and better and be a positive role model for one of these kids living in that area to see a cop actually doing his job interacting with the ppl he’s paid to protect and make a lasting impression, he just wants a check. And this is one of the ways he can get a decent pay with only a high school diploma.

    Rrrrroe Ski Love- A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

    10/13/09, 10:58:am

    When police go out on a call, they never know what they may encounter. They are trained to control the situation, if they see a situation becoming bad or not in their favor the are trained to use deadly force if needed. As a black youth and man knowing this, I did whatever I was told and gave them the respect of doing the job that they are paid to do. Not all police officers are bad. They have families to go home too. They have financial problems, problems with their children, health problems, fear of losing their life while on the job, fear of taking someones life while on the job, etc. They really are no different than you and me, except that their job could be considered extreemly dangerous and sometimes they have to make an instant decision- Him or me? Be mindful of this the next time you get pulled over by the men in blue and thank them for the job that they do. (turn the table on them) Only someone who wallows in ignorance would challenge authority while they have the upper hand.

    Larry

    10/13/09, 10:59:am

    All i wanna say is that they don’t really care about us

    thelayoutspot.net

    Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo.....)

    10/13/09, 11:00:am

    @I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983:

    YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT.

    It is wrong for these kids to think they can man/woman up with cops. Cops who have badges and weight under their belt, literally.

    I blame it on all this bull***** music making them think they are tougher than they really are, and the lack of parenting and correct guidance.

    You have people like Gucci glorifying nonsense and REALLY going to jail, trying to live what they rap about. So, the young boys who have no real goals or strong paths…they fall victim to this bull*****.

    Giving them a false sense of reality all day.

    i know the truth

    10/13/09, 11:03:am

    *****s! yet again have proven themselves to be beyond stupid!! and @ jermaine I agree–why not treat the dumb *****es who killed the so called honor student–who by the way was too damn dumb not to know to run away from the violence instead of standing there and watching it–damn *****s are sooo dumb!

    Sanjor

    10/13/09, 11:03:am

    I agree with Dayshifter, we have got to keep ourselves out of situations like this. I tell my son and he is only 9 that if approached by the cops, COMPLY, don’t mouth off and don’t fight. That way he will live for me to sue if I have to. We have so many cops out there, black and white who are just looking for a chance to kill our black men.

    real

    10/13/09, 11:05:am

    he has no clue what respect for youself means
    my mother taught to treat everyone equal,
    and she taugh me that you have to give respect to get it no matter who you are. Just because I choose to dress a certain way does that does not say who im am, so if this 15 year old was dressed like a white kid your saying he would have not been killed????????
    —————————————————–@talent2
    what the hell r u talkin about im saying no matter how he was dressed he was only 15 years old the cop had no right to kill him…. what did the boy do that made him pull his gun out and shoot him the boy wasen’t threat he was a grown ***** man this was a little boy who had done nothing wrong he was welcomed into that home who care why he was going through the window kids play like that jack***** was there any sign of a forced entry use your damn brain think before u act that cop was just hoe that was scared and that gun made him feel safe..

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 11:10:am

    @Sanjor

    I agree with Dayshifter, we have got to keep ourselves out of situations like this. I tell my son and he is only 9 that if approached by the cops, COMPLY, don’t mouth off and don’t fight. That way he will live for me to sue if I have to. We have so many cops out there, black and white who are just looking for a chance to kill

    u wrote my exact point thank you!!! even though cops are hired to protect and serve many of them have the mantality of its them against us in reference to blacks and hispanics i dont think many of them think there are innocent black ppl or black ppl that are not up to somting illeagal. when they come out they dont care who you are the Gates incident proves this.

    Ladylumps

    10/13/09, 11:10:am

    IN the courts, it is open season on our Black and HIspanic youth. My 15 yr old has been charged as an adult her in PA, for a fight, where he was “accused” of fighting someone with Br***** Knuckles. Although no hospital reports nor injuries to the boy, who is WHITE, my son was ordered held as an adult, he had to post bail, which was set at 15000, we had to pay 10%.

    PARENTS… Please watch your children esp. you guys with Young Black or Latino MALES. It is open season on our boys. We must do something about it. They can’t be locking them away nor Killing them. They are the future!!!!

    real

    10/13/09, 11:10:am

    i can remember a cop dragging me out of a car that i wasnt drivng cursin me out slammin me on the hood of his hot ***** cop car hand cuffin me and puttin me n the back of his car…. why bcuz i had on black and red those of u that have never experienced this dont under stand and sound pretty crazy u think when rappers talk bad about cops n songs the rappers r trippin and jus talkin *****..no that ***** really goes down n the hood

    Damn D

    10/13/09, 11:11:am

    @sev
    ***** YOU! AND ***** THE POLICE!

    Regardless of who u want to blame.They didnt have to kill him. They are trained how to shoot, thats there job. Not to kill a person if that person gets the best of them in a fight. Thats a coward move to me.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 11:12:am

    This ***** is unacceptable on both parties. Police for a unjust shooting which resulted in a young man losing his life. The young men actions are unacceptable as well, if johnny law give you instructions just follow them its simple as that. If you wasn’t doing anything, you don’t have nothing to worry about.

    Damn D

    10/13/09, 11:13:am

    @Hannibal
    AND ***** U TOO.! With you cheerleader *****……

    real

    10/13/09, 11:19:am

    @damn d
    ———————————————-
    i agree real *****

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 11:20:am

    How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

    OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 11:23:am

    My last thoughs on this
    this was a 15 year old kid, who was doing no wrong, but decided not to listen to what the officer had told him to do, ok was the kid wrong, in a way I say yes, but in a way I say no, if you read it says the caller called for a POSSIBLE burglary, now I seen stuff like this before where a person is locked out and it looks like there breaking in, and I have seen cops come up and TALK and try to see whats going on, yes they might have there hand on there gun but if they come up and say hey what your doing or somthing like that and be calm about it this probably never would have happened the kid could have expained whats going on and it would have been over, but that does not seems like the case this officer came up already thing bad, thing these kids were breaking into someone house, ok i can still kinda see that but what I don’t get is after he did not listen they got into a “scuffle” now I don’t think this kid was stupid so I doubt this officer had his gun out when they got into a “scuffle” he had to have pulled it out take the safety off and have has hand on the trigger, now was that an accident, I doubt it.

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 11:25:am

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

    OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.

    MJDC THAT IS Y I LOVE U. U FEEL ME B/C LIKE I SAID UP TOP I DONT WITNESSED MANY OF TIMES COPS TELL SOMEONE TO FREEZE THEY DO AND THE COPS STRAIGT START TO MANHANDLE AND KICK THEY AZZ THE PPL BE SCREAMING MOVING AROUND B/C THE COP GOT THEM IN A DAM CHOKE HOLD AND THEY TRYING TO BREATH AND U KNOW WHAT THATS CALL RESISTING ARREST LIKE I SAID I DONT KNOW THE FACTS BUT IM GIVING THIS THE SIDE EYE.COPS ARE NOT ALWAYS RIGHT AND CRIMINALS ARE DAMN WRONG BUT LIKE I SAID COPS NOT ALWAYS RIGHT.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 11:25:am

    @snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    nothing to worry about
    Yeah so tell me why is the other kid still in jail, what did he do?????

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 11:26:am

    How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????

    OH yeah, THE KILLER is saying that he didn’t follow instructions. SMH.
    _____________

    If the young cat was wrestling with po-po, his lil a$$ wasn’t following instructions….lol

    Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY)

    10/13/09, 11:26:am

    I think both parties were wrong on thisone. For one no matter howwelcomed to a house you are, climbing through windows will always alarm a neighbor and I can’t blame the neighbor for being alert thinking it was a potential burglary. Other than that the police were right to respond, but wrong to shoot…I think a lot of officers p***** training to fast and become trigger happy for almost anything that begins to scare them. The boys should’ve listened and not talk back. A simple hands behind your head and stand against the wall would have done them much better. Explain yourselves and the situation later.

    ThatmixedChick!

    10/13/09, 11:38:am

    Damnit, Bossip. Do you not understand that YOU are a major part of the mother*****ing problem?! Every time you post an article that says “***** the police” or call police officers “pigs” you are undermining the authority of the police. The black community leads our young men to believe it is alright to fight the cops, and it’s not. And now a 15 year old is dead.

    Black People: Any time you are interacting with a police officer, sit down and shut the ***** up!!!! Also keep your hands to yourself and don’t make any sudden movements!!! Don’t try to figh somebody with billy clubs, mase, guns, and backup because you will LOSE.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 11:39:am

    nothing to worry about
    Yeah so tell me why is the other kid still in jail, what did he do?????
    ________

    Fighting with the police……i’m not justifying the police actions by any means, it was excessive, but at some point we got to teach our kids it’s better to use our minds, opposed to walking around with their chest poked out…

    Aunt Viv

    10/13/09, 11:39:am

    @ snoop,

    Good morning and co-sign your comments at 11:12. Blame can be placed on both sides. May the young man rest in peace.

    HF

    10/13/09, 11:45:am

    DayShifter

    “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued, and the unidentified officer’s handgun went off….”

    Why do we get into these damn situations?!? When I was growing up, we did everything to avoid any type of aggravated situations with cops, mainly because NYPD was bussing caps in everyone’s @ss. Do your d@mn best “yes, sir/no, sir” slave imitation and live to sue and file a complaint later on. Black people stop fu*cking with the cops, after enough lawsuits and public outcry ***** will change, remember money talks!!
    __________________________________________________

    I agree with SOME of this.

    It is stupid 2 rush, raise up, get beligerent, make sudden moves, or hit a cop. I agree.

    Y*****abossin’ and shuckin’ and jivin’ just so a pig don’t violate my civil rights?

    BZZZT….

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 11:45:am

    I’m sure if little Cody did the exact thing the end results would’ve been different. If you want to be a rebel you going to die what you stand for, but this ***** could have been avoided.

    bun babylon

    10/13/09, 11:45:am

    serve’em right…

    ” hard hears ya don’ hear, own way winna feel”

    Dai

    10/13/09, 11:46:am

    My grandson is 11yo – 196 pounds – right at 6 feet, not fat, not bulked either – just a big kid, mentally an 11 yo. I am a cop and if I get a burg call and ran across a kid his size at night. And there were two of them there – which could mean there are more,I have to do what whats in my best interest. Kids and adults do not listen to commands any more, they want to challenge and question every order. When the cops show up, the cops are in charge, period! A 15 yo can kill you as fast as a 20 or 80 yo. I am defending the cop here until all facts are out, but if get in a fight with anyone, I plan on going home at the end of my shift. When you go hands on with the police, who whats to say your plan was not to disarm and shoot the cop with his weapon. I dont know if any of you live in cities where the police will allow ride alongs, but if they do, try to arrange one for a weekend if possible, especially a holiday weekend.

    Dai

    10/13/09, 11:49:am

    My grandson is 11yo – 196 pounds – right at 6 feet, not fat, not bulked either – just a big kid, mentally an 11 yo. I am a cop and if I get a burg call and ran across a kid his size at night. And there were two of them there – which could mean there are more,I have to do what is in my best interest. Kids and adults do not listen to commands any more, they want to challenge and question every order. When the cops show up, the cops are in charge, period! A 15 yo can kill you as fast as a 20 or 80 yo. I am defending the cop here until all facts are out, but if I get in a fight with anyone, I plan on going home at the end of my shift. When you go hands on with the police, who or whats to say your plan was not to disarm and shoot the cop with his weapon. I dont know if any of you live in cities where the police will allow ride alongs, but if they do, try to arrange one for a weekend if possible, especially a holiday weekend.

    noelle

    10/13/09, 11:50:am

    The one in the gray looks liek my aunt Dorothy who live sin Columbys, Ohio

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 11:51:am

    Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children. Sad situation. Discipline your children and drive it in their heads. They want to kill you. Learn how to behave at home so you won’t die in the streets.

    Sanjor

    10/13/09, 11:53:am

    @Man, “How do we know that a child didn’t follow instructions????”
    _____________________________________________________
    I’m sure there are a lot of situations like this that have happened. This is just sad all the way around. Thats why I worry about my son. I remember my Mom telling me that children are a blessing but they come with alot of worries and concerns. Now I know what she means.

    Cameron Turner

    10/13/09, 11:56:am

    This is a terrible tragedy. But we don’t have the facts yet. The article says “a scuffle ensued” after the two boys refused to follow orders from the police. At this point it is too early to know whether the police acted improperly.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:00:pm

    @Dai

    Ok you say your a “cop” I never heard a cop call them self a cop but what ever I got a few question for you

    First it was day time

    ok if your called for a possible burg. and when you get there you see 2 people still outside mind you what do you first??

    If you see the kid is 15 and you hear him say he not breaking in he is supposed to be here what do you do then??

    We will never know the true fact of what happened because the only word we have is of the officer the kid is dead….

    oh and one more if you see me and I was unarmed and say I started swing at you, your saying you would shoot and kill me???

    Samantha

    10/13/09, 12:00:pm

    I agree with the people who question why the young man was attempting to go through the windows if he was welcome at the house? The police did not just show up they were called so apparently the neighbors were concerned. I’m sick and tired of parents making excuses for their children action. Unless more information is release showing the cop is at fault I blame the young man. If he was welcomed all he needed to do was let the Police do their job and he would be breathing today. All Police are not bad, and all kids are not good. All police are not good and all kids are not bad.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 12:03:pm

    Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children. Sad situation. Discipline your children and drive it in their heads. They want to kill you. Learn how to behave at home so you won’t die in the streets
    ________

    MY POINT EXACTLY!!

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:04:pm

    @ Cameron Turner

    that what I am saying from reading that I get the feeling the that officer got mad that they were not listening and got phisical, but noone knows what happen and they probably won’t ever know.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 12:04:pm

    HEY AUNT VIV…..

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 12:05:pm

    “Everybody is edgy. There are more questions than there are answers,” said Champaign County NAACP President Jerome Chambers. “How do we stop our black boys from dying where the authorities are the ones in question?”___________________________________________

    This is would be funny if it were not so pathetic! Where were these NAACP clowns when that young man was beaten ti death in Chicago? Why is it that we only want to mobilize the truth when its the Police or someone White behind the trigger but when we do it to each other then its time to break out the makeshift memorials,tee shirts and the no snitching rule?_____________________________________________

    “Laura Manning, the mother of the boy still in custody, said at a Monday press conference that her son is a slight youth who has not reached his full height. She said he was not a threat to a police officer who, along with Police Chief R.T. Finney, confronted him and Mr. Carrington at about 1:20 p.m. Friday after a neighbor called 911 to report a possible burglary at 906 W. Vine St”_______________________________________________This is what i like to call the “My Baby never did nuthin to *****ody” excuse. I hear it used whenever teachers talk to their parents about their children’s unruly behavior in school and almost always whenever a kid gets out of pocket with a law enforcement official._________________________________________
    Here is the something that probably will not shock you. Most Police Officers don’t give a DAMN about the Black Community. The reason? because the Black Community does not care about itself. Would you want to be a cop in the Black Community where Murder,rape,robbery,*****ault and drug dealing are commonplace and the people who are the victims of these crimes care so little about themselves that they don’t won’t even work with you to help prosecute and remove the criminal element from the community? We want the POLICE to respect our community but day in and day out we give them little or NO reason to respect us. We have stopped teaching our children important rules for living such as the best way not to have a problem with the law is to not break it in the first place! Far too many times in stories like these the youth who ends up getting killed is portrayed by family and friends as a good boy who never bothered anybody only later to be discovered to have a record with multiple offenses on it. Any adult who takes public transportation on a daily basis in any major city in this country has seen first hand,the behavior and rampant disrespect that goes on with our children when they are away from their parents. Stop instilling this bull***** in children’s heads that Adults are supposed to respect them because that is what is leading to our downfall. If these children didn’t take it upon themselves to think that they can act any kind of way with no consequences then this will continue to happen. Youths in every race misbehave every day but only in our community do they pay with their lives with it. Why? Because NO one respects us as a people and looking at our track record lately,why should they?

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:07:pm

    @Samantha

    the other day I by locked my self out the house, had no key no phone so what did i do I went through the window, now does it look like im breaking in yes, was I know but the only way to find that out is by TAKLING to me, remember the caller said POSSIBLE!

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 12:10:pm

    I’m going to put Black youth up on some game. You are a target. When you walk out in the community there are enemy forces that want to do harm to you. Whether that is a under paid Police Officer, andother young Black male, a trifling female, pedaphile, rapist, etc. They do not want to see you make it. You are a threat. If you are doing something positive with your life they will try to take you out. If you are doing something negative they will use that as justification. You are not invisible, and you do not blend in. You are a target, because you represent our future. They are trying to destroy you or place you in confinement. Trap, tag, bag or release for monitoring. You have to be smart and stay on point in order to survive.

    Crystal

    10/13/09, 12:15:pm

    I live in the area where this happened and have a (black) husband who is a police officer in the area. Coupla things are that even my husband doesnt know who the shooter was and so we dont know if hes a white man or a black man, and also this is a pretty bad part of town (where I happen to live) where there have been many murders, prostitution (yeah even in a small town) and so on. There was a phone call reporting a break in and several officers responded.

    SMH at everyone automatically blaming the police. They are just trying to do their job and keep our families safe. These fools were trying to rob a neighbor and it got bad for whatever reason. I feel awful about what happened but they were not just sitting around minding their own business and getting har*****ed by the police.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 12:15:pm

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    Hi SMDH

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 12:16:pm

    SMDH where are you?

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:22:pm

    @Wreckless Driver

    your point would mean so much if blacks people were the only ones, check the stats black and white or about even in both rape and murder and if im not mistaken the white people percentage wise are a head in both, so in my eye your point means nothing
    I watch the news everyday whens the last time you seen a black person on cnn for killing there baby or for kidnapping someone for 18 years????

    why?

    10/13/09, 12:23:pm

    I just want to say this— ITS NOT ALWAYS THE OFFICERS FAULT. The first thing I noted was this article saying there was a SCUFFLE which let me know the young male was not cooperating!

    When will our YOUTH learn and why when everybody dies, we want to paint them as the heavenly again.

    To the family, I do offer my prayers and hope you get through this terrible ordeal in your time of lost.

    My comments above reflect a bigger question to the picture versus the actual incident that happened.

    why?

    10/13/09, 12:26:pm

    and folks say most police dont give a damn about the Black Community,
    I say, MOST BLACK folks dont give a damn about their community, if they did, our community wouldnt be in the SHAMBLES they are in across the United States!!!

    Quit pointn the finger, life for most of us was not crystal stairs; however, that didnt mean I should just turn into a thug and not do the right thing! Be More responsible. *****ody can help us till we help ourselves, no matter what INTERVENTIONS they come up with! Until this IMMA THUG mentality is the COOLEST thing is lost, the Black race will remain where they are, dead last!

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 12:26:pm

    @ This some Shhh….

    I’m going to put Black youth up on some game. You are a target. When you walk out in the community there are enemy forces that want to do harm to you. Whether that is a under paid Police Officer, andother young Black male, a trifling female, pedaphile, rapist, etc. They do not want to see you make it. You are a threat. If you are doing something positive with your life they will try to take you out. If you are doing something negative they will use that as justification. You are not invisible, and you do not blend in. You are a target, because you represent our future. They are trying to destroy you or place you in confinement. Trap, tag, bag or release for monitoring. You have to be smart and stay on point in order to survive.
    __________________________________________________

    STOP IT! Please Stop it! Stop with this you are a target,because you are a threat BULL*****! I wish our were a THREAT to them. To be threat is to be taken seriously. To be a threat is to be seen as competition. We are NEITHER right now. The target that is being placed on us is by US! We don’t need them to destroy us when WE are doing the job for them. Black on Black violence and homicide are higher than any other form of violence or homicide it his country. Stop spreading this conspiracy theory Bull***** about them wanting to destroy us because The Latinos are on course to be the MAJORITY in this country in a few years. We on the other hand will keep cranking out ball players and rappers all for their amusements. The day we let go of this GHETTO BULL***** and our fascination with PRISON CULTURE and start seriously getting our ***** together so we can compete on the same level as The Asians,Indians and other Cultures that are coming over here,then the better off we will be as a people.We need to start lifting up those of us who actually are accomplishing something instead of glorifying the ignorant few of us who have managed to make a couple of dollars but yet do nothing substantial with it,except but some a few cars and jewelry. WE need to take responsibility for our own and stop with this we are a target BULL*****!

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    10/13/09, 12:28:pm

    No more racial issue this week Bossip.

    Afternoon, everyone

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:28:pm

    @ Crystal

    actually your kinda wrong they were minding there own business read again they were at a house the were welcome to they were robbing noone, now Im not saying one said was right or wrong, but for people to talk about this 15 year who got shot and basicly say he was not raised right by his mother because hes black it wrong, what if if was a white kid??
    just because he black does not mean he listens to rap, just because hes black does not mean he wears baggy clothes right?????

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 12:30:pm

    @ Wreckless Driver

    If you are a Black male you are a traget from multiple fronts. The sooner you realize that the better things will go. Regardless of whether the numbers say we are killing each other, that still makes you a target. If you know you are being hunted you are one step up on the game.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 12:31:pm

    ” DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    Hi SMDH”

    For anyone who may actually be concerned this is not me. As you will see if you read the address its completely different from mine.

    but whoever you are grow a set of nuts will you? when we were in the thread where you *****hs thought it was okay for that little black girl to be punched in her face by that cop – though i strongly disagreed with you I never resorted to stealing pictures and pretending that anyone was someone that they were not. I made my arguement and I left it alone. atleast man up long enough to do the same – or am I more man than you??? i swear – the so called grown men on this site with their six figure jobs! LOL!

    chloe

    10/13/09, 12:31:pm

    Black men are killed by black men 90% of the time, so cut the crap!

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:31:pm

    @why?

    yall are all *****uming things about this kid just because hes black and it not right, WHAT MAKES THIS 15 YEAR OLD A THUG?? BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHAT HE WAS DOING??

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 12:32:pm

    and by the way the immaturity does not change my opinion of this situation. if the kid weren’t breaking into someone elses house and resisting the cops he would likely be alive today!

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 12:34:pm

    “Black men are killed by black men 90% of the time, so cut the crap!”

    B-I-B-L-E!!!!! but everyone wants to get up in arms when its a cop who is doing his job who is made to use force by these black men. ever notice how black people will march for the biggest most deserving of his fate criminal just because a cop was involved in his demise but when it comes to black men killing black men they “didn’t see anything”???

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:35:pm

    @chloe

    and 90% of the time white people kill white people and your point is??

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 12:36:pm

    @Talent2

    @Wreckless Driver

    your point would mean so much if blacks people were the only ones, check the stats black and white or about even in both rape and murder and if im not mistaken the white people percentage wise are a head in both, so in my eye your point means nothing
    I watch the news everyday whens the last time you seen a black person on cnn for killing there baby or for kidnapping someone for 18 years????
    __________________________________________________

    And your point being WHAT? I don’t give a damn about what goes on CNN regarding their community. I care about what goes on in MY COMMUNITY! DAMN when will people stop with this”But they did this”BULL*****! There is an old saying”What you eat,don’t make me *****”.The very thing applies when it comes to crimes committed by other races in their communities. Since you want to bring that up ,how many of THEIR kids do you see getting shot dead by POLICE? You want to check stats? We make up a little over 13% of the total population of this country and yet we make up damn near the MAJORITY of the prison population. The majority of our households are single family/female lead.We have more of us in Jail then we do college. Still want to focus on what THEY’RE Doing?

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 12:36:pm

    Cops are trigger happy as it is. Why would the boy scuffle with officer in the first place almost givin the offer a reason to defend himself? Just a couple of weekends ago a friend of mine was arguing with this other dude and they was about to fight. The cops (white cops)roll up with guns drawn telling every body get the ***** on the car. The ***** my friend was aguing with start yelling at the officer saying my friend said he was going to kill him waving his arms and *****. The officer told him to shut the ***** up before he put a bullet in his *****. The moral of the story is shut the ***** up and let the officer sort out the situation. There is no need to make it worse byy doing uneccesary *****!!!

    Jay the Real One

    10/13/09, 12:37:pm

    Learn this:

    treat the police like you would being confronted by an attack dog. live.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:38:pm

    @DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    but everyone is *****uming the kid did something all this article says is that they did not do what the officer says, so that equals using force??

    when a black/white kills a black/white its WRONG
    my point is no one knows what really happen so why is everyone making this kid out to be some thug???

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 12:40:pm

    God bless the dead but shawty should have sat his ***** down somewhere!!!!

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 12:43:pm

    @ Talent2

    I’m not making the kid out to be a thug. I’m trying to save you, brother. If the cops roll up on you, put your hands in the air and await further instructions.

    Crystal

    10/13/09, 12:44:pm

    @ Talent2 – You got to read between the lines on this. The neighbor was family and the boys were trying to break into her home. I don’t know if she called 911 or another neighbor did but she might have, then after the boy died she felt real bad about it and her statement was that he was always welcome in her home. She is family what she supposed to say after he’s dead? Maybe she called not knowing it was him. I don’t care what color a child is or what he wearing, you can’t go trying to get into somebody’s house through the windows when they are home if you have good intentions. Don’t matter if it was the owner of the house or somebody else called 911 but whoever called was a neighbor and I don’t think a neighbor would call 911 if the boys were actin right. Almost all of the kids in this neighborhood are black so black kids minding their own business wouldn’t make anyone call 911. I think we need to protect our own communities first and raise our kids right but if that doest work I hope the police will protect us. I have a young son and daughter in this neighborhood and I don’t want to be without some protection. Yes protection from my own neighbors. SMDH.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 12:44:pm

    God bless the dead but shawty should have sat his ***** down somewhere!!!!
    _________

    What up T Redd…….All they need is a reason when you a *****, why give them a reason??

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 12:44:pm

    @ This some Shhh….

    @ Wreckless Driver

    If you are a Black male you are a traget from multiple fronts. The sooner you realize that the better things will go. Regardless of whether the numbers say we are killing each other, that still makes you a target. If you know you are being hunted you are one step up on the game.|
    __________________________________________________

    You’re not a target if you paint the bullseye on yourself. *****ody has us in their sights. There is a difference between being feared because of what someone thinks you might do to them as opposed to being feared because you are competition. I want us to be feared because we of what we bring to the table intellectually and academically not because we run faster and can rap. We need to show the world that we can create something other than 16 bars or 360 dunks.The best and brightest among us are not being incarcerated or killed by the Police. They are being destroyed by US by instilling mediocrity and built in busll***** excuses in them,before they even have a chance to try.

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 12:49:pm

    @Snoop Blog

    What up son! Yeah…Too many of these situations can be avoided in the first place..smh

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:50:pm

    @Tony Redds
    and that why im not realy going to believe this officer *****ody is that stupid to start a fight with an officer if they have there gun pulled out so how did he get shot by accident

    @Wreckless Driver
    Look I get your point what Im saying is that is not a reason to shoot a 15 year old just because hes black. yeah murders, rapes and all that happen in the black comm. but it happens in the white too so thats no excuse, this was a officer who went through training he chose this job he was not mad to do it so you can’t sit there and say black people bring this on themselfs

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 12:52:pm

    @ Wreckless Driver

    Brother you crazy as ***** if you a Black man and don’t know there has always been a systematic plot to exterminate your Black *****. Whether that mind set was inherited or picked up by other Black males is irrelevant. You are public enemy number 1.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 12:52:pm

    @ T REDD….. Exactly…..the professor at Harvard lucky he didn’t get his noodles knocked…..lol

    I am African not African American

    10/13/09, 12:55:pm

    keep blaming the people; it’s easier that way. The truth of the matter is the rate of crime in the American black society is startling. To make matters worse, these criminals are always taunting the police. I do agree with the *****ertion that the police need to get their act together but so do black people.

    Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    10/13/09, 12:57:pm

    A 911 caller had said the two boys were trying to get into the house through doors and windows,

    officers responded. When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 12:58:pm

    @I am African not African American

    I agree but your still *****uming this kid was some thug and that the wrong part just because hes black that does not make him a criminal or does it???

    Crystal

    10/13/09, 13:01:pm

    @ This some Shhhh

    I will not teach my son that kind of thinking. You got to believe in yourself and expect the world to treat you right. If you walk around thinking everybody is judging you right off, how you going to ever succeed? How you going to look someone in the eye and smile? One of the reasons I love the President is that he is a man who no doubt had some people look at him wrong because of the color of his skin. But he did not hate them for it and he did not *****ume everyone else would be the same way. You got to take people as they come and just like you want everyone to *****ume you are a good person and not some thug you should *****ume everyone is going to treat you right. Always *****ume the best about yourself and others and it is more likely to happen. You got to carry yourself with dignity and stay away from trouble. I always tell my kids to run and hide from trouble. Sometimes trouble finds you but mostly when trouble’s around, it means you went out looking for it.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:01:pm

    Goodafternoon to ALL…Though, stories such as this is not uncommon, nevertheless it still hurts the same, especially when it could’ve been avoided. I know that not ALL cops are BAD, but it does seem that they are EXTRA TRIGGER HAPPY when it comes to ANYTHING dealing w/black males young or old, doesn’t matter. If indeed true that the boys were trying to get into the house via the door and WINDOWS then the only reasonable cause for alarm was trying to get through the WINDOWS–>never a good look either way. However, this took place in the daytime, clearly the boys did not have any weapons (based on the provided information)therefore, I do feel that the officer had clear visual to understand if both boys were a threat. Also, I understand and would want a CONCERNED NEIGHBOR however, I do believe that in some cases w/neighbors calling either something extra is being said that gets back to the en route officer that puts them on edge or hypes them up unwarranted. Gosh! back in the day it was the children burying the parents, now its all to often the other way around. It seems like parents and grandparents and even great grandparents are living longer than their own grandchildren and/or children.

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:02:pm

    @Talent2

    We dont know what trully happened however, based off this statement: “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued” tells me that a degree of self accountablity and restraint needed to be exercised, which I believe a 15 old should know how to do. I’m not justifying the officers actions, however when the cops roll up, the score is already 5-0, and thats a helluva hole to dig out of……

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:02:pm

    Correction I meant to write that “not ALL cops are bad”.

    free

    10/13/09, 13:02:pm

    wreckless driver said, “What you eat,don’t make me *****””

    ********************************************

    i gotta use that one!

    z queen of bossip

    10/13/09, 13:04:pm

    @dahonest, you cant make sense with these picture stealers and all day bloggers , they are chidish and obviously have a boring life and need to instigate on a blog.

    I LOVE WHITE GIRLS

    10/13/09, 13:04:pm

    I blame GANGSTA RAP MUSIC AND SNOOP DOGG!

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:06:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    And thats what im saying for a situation like this the officer usually finds out what going on first, these kids were still OUTSIDE of the house, they had no weapons, no other info and people are calling these kids THUGs?? what did they really do??

    free

    10/13/09, 13:07:pm

    An Illinois law called The Safe Schools Act has created an option for students in grades 6-12 who have been multiply suspended or on the verge of being expelled from school for acts of gross misconduct. Students accepted into the Champaign-Ford Regional Office of Education Safe Schools Program, called the R.E.A.D.Y Program, are given a unique opportunity that utilizes a variety of programs, both in the cl*****room and in the community, to help foster academic, vocational and emotional growth.

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:08:pm

    Crystal

    @Crystal

    “I will not teach my son that kind of thinking. You got to believe in yourself and expect the world to treat you right”
    ——————

    You should expect the best, but the reality is it is not reciprocal……

    I am African not African American

    10/13/09, 13:09:pm

    Talent2

    We don’t have the full story yet but from what was released, the boy(s) did not cooperate with the people and this lead to a scuffle or something of that nature. Again, goes back to what I said about black boys taunting the police. I am not supporting what the police did but if the boy cooperated, nothing would have happened. We preach anti-police tendencies in black communities as if all police as bad people. To rebel against the police is considered something cool. Truly a shame!!!

    I am African not African American

    10/13/09, 13:09:pm

    did not cooperate with the police*

    Tyson

    10/13/09, 13:11:pm

    Its always the africans what bumlick crackas

    Will Alva

    10/13/09, 13:13:pm

    Im sorry people but face the facts that are given both of these young men were commiting a crime and becuase of that unfortunatly this was the root problem to why 1 of them was killed, how is anybody to know that he was not trying to get the officers gun and use it against him and if these young men had a bit of sense this probly would have been avoided, Please realize that although we no longer live in the old world that once meant if you stole your hand was cut off but aloth of these young people today are dying becuase our laws have become weak and we provide them with an excuse and make them believe thats it okay for them to commit such acts.

    We must take responcibility and show them the right way.

    SublimeSept78

    10/13/09, 13:13:pm

    Damn-it! I went to school in Champaign! I am speechless following this mess…

    CERO

    10/13/09, 13:14:pm

    VERY SAD STORY, BUT THE FACT IS STILL….

    WE KILL OURSELVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:16:pm

    Anyone that is raising a young black male or boy really and seriously need to stress to them that ANYTIME an officer, especially a white one (please do not get me wrong you have some black officers who are just as bad) approaches them, I do not care if its just an officer p*****ing out a missing persons flyer BE ON YOUR BEST BEHAVIOR, because anything can be taken out of context. A bug could have bit you and made you flinch & they can take that as a sign of you acting suspicious or aggressive–>ok, ok that was a stretch, but you get the point. Teach them and tell them to do as the officer says, especially if you are being stopped in the car. Do not make any sudden movements, keep your hands visible at ALL times, and for goodness sake PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GET INTO SCUFFLES, ARGUEMENTS WITH POLICE OFFICERS. WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO SHUT UP, WHEN THEY TELL YOU TO OBEY THEIR ORDERS PLEASE DO IT!!!. You already have 2 strikes upon them approaching you: your black and your a man, and let us not get into if your well dressed, driving a nice car in an “upscale” neighborhood (as if blacks don’t have nice fiancially stabled or lavish lifestyles).

    Dai

    10/13/09, 13:17:pm

    @Talent2

    I don,t care if the sun was going supernova when I pull up, 8 to 80, everybody gets cuffed and searched till I find who the players are. I was called for burg in progress, most burgs are in the daytime. You go hands on with me, and I will shoot you. There is no rule in the force continuum that I have to fist fight with you because you decide to fist fight, or if you decide to pick up a club, I have to now use my baton. There is a thing called common sense, I will tailor my response according to why I there, force being used, individual using said force. Being called a cop never bothered me, especially in lieu of the names I have been called.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:18:pm

    @I am African not African American

    I just think it was uncalled for, this was a 15 year old, how many time have you seen a person start yelling at a police officer?? I see it often. what does the officer do yes he get phiscial, and might take a person down and if this kid would have just broken an arm or something I would have a different feeling but some how this cops gun came out, safety cam off and the trigger was pulled, and instead of people saying they both are at falt in someway people are calling this 15 year old a thug, and thats not right.

    attagirl

    10/13/09, 13:21:pm

    Follow police orders- black or white…what the hell are you scuffling with police for?
    Don’t take away the fact that people have to be accountable for their own actions.
    There is no damn point to prove when someone else has a gun!

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:25:pm

    @DAI-Greetings…I take it that you are an officer if that is true I pray that God continues to order your steps, and protect you from all hurt, harm and danger seen and unseen. I have a question in which I understand that you were not there, but in your opinion based on the provided information how come the officer just didn’t use his taser? I’ve seen plenty of incidents on CourtTV, Caught On Tape and cops where a scuffle did ensue,but the officer managed to use his taser at ease.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:25:pm

    Maybe the kid wasn’t a thug, but if he was taught how to behave this would have been prevented… Yeah i see white people cuss the police out and don’t ***** happen….We can’t compare apples to oranges, this life ain’t fair, we have advantages and disadvantages, and trust when it come to the police we’re the latter.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:25:pm

    @Dai

    Ok but say this was you your the officer
    your told that a burg. MIGHT be in progress, you get there and the people are still outside and there telling you that this is where they are supposed to be would you listen to them?? are con. to try to arrest them,
    cause look I understand what your saying but to me this story does not make sence maybe thats just me, but if I was the officer I yes I would have my gun out or at less my hand on it and find out whats going on first before I start yelling orders because remember the call the person was not sure what was happening

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 13:27:pm

    This could have been handled without the officer using his gun.

    This boy is 15 and cops are trained to handle people using body force or enforcement techniques; not their gun.

    Before a person is able to carry a gun and use freely- called a cop, more mental evaluations need to be used. Some type of simulation program and see how they react in different protocols with different races. And they need to be evaluated every 2-5 years.

    Being a cop needs to be a test or requirements people must go throught to damn near become DEA.

    free

    10/13/09, 13:28:pm

    dai said “There is no rule in the force continuum that I have to fist fight with you because you decide to fist fight, or if you decide to pick up a club, I have to now use my baton.”

    *******************************************

    i don’t know how much clearer you have to state it for these ignoramuses.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:32:pm

    @MISS B- I just was asking Mr/Ms. Dai his opinion as to why the officer didn’t use his taser, especially based on the many incidents I’ve seen. I do believe that in the United States officers are more *****e to handle many incidents that can be otherwise handled without weapons with deadly force.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:32:pm

    I always say it, PARENTS need to be step it up with their kids… All this trying to be big and bad with no education is played out and should never been in style. I understand his moms past away, but he w***** 15 and by then you know the difference between right and wrong. He mad a bad decision, and the cop made an even wors decision in my opinion…

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:33:pm

    man yall trippin. These 15 year olds these days be lookin like Greg Oden!!!

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:34:pm

    @free

    noone said the kid started the fight, in my mind i believe the officer got phisical with the kid because he would not listen to his demands, and unlike dai this guy choose to use his gun

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:37:pm

    One thing I will state for the record is that YES, I do believe that officers need to either be re-trained or have an additional more tedious course on how to handle situations that aren’t proven a high threat.

    But, I also think that these mothers or adults of these black males need to have serious sit down talks, even show video clips on such incidents on how to interact and deal with a police officer, most of all how to OBEY POLICE OFFICERS orders. Also, people forget the fact that police officers are still human beings underneath that unitform which can carry racist views, irritation, control-freak personalities, depression and many other emotions so has, can and sometimes plays a part in how they react to certain incidents.

    Question: back in the day during the “SAY NO TO DRUGS” error they always had police officers that paid visits to my cl***** (they were very nice too) and they discussed a wide range of topics or things officers deal with do they still have that program to speak to the youngsters?

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:39:pm

    @SNOOP & TALENT- Agree with the both of you.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:39:pm

    correction “era” not “error” lol.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:39:pm

    man yall trippin. These 15 year olds these days be lookin like Greg Oden!!!
    _____________

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA……I have a 9yr. old, and he brought lil ***** over with a full goatee and built like Mike Tyson….. talking about “can _______ spend the night at my house”? ( hell naw)…..lol

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:40:pm

    @Will Alva

    They did not commit a crime learn to read they were welcome to the house

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:41:pm

    @snoop

    lmao!!

    Dai

    10/13/09, 13:42:pm

    @Ms.EJ
    The taser has a range depending on which cartridge used of 21 – 35 feet. It is not first weapon pulled on unknown calls, it may be secondary if the situation calls for it. All depts do not issue tasers and not all cops are issued or carry them.

    locksmith_bobby

    10/13/09, 13:42:pm

    ***** COPS.

    “and the unidentified officer’s handgun went off”. it was no accident. i pray for the teen’s family

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:44:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    “One thing I will state for the record is that YES, I do believe that officers need to either be re-trained or have an additional more tedious course on how to handle situations that aren’t proven a high threat.”
    ————–

    officers are not trained to think a situation through, if they did I believe there would be a lot more dead officers each year…just sayin

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 13:44:pm

    @ Ms.EJ….

    That’s the thing. With the way our race is portrayed and sadly act, other races are scared of us.

    So instead of using his taser, this guy used his gun. he felt safer with his gun. No matter this lil man’s age, a gun would have been used. Furthermore, someone should have taught this lil man you must respect authority.

    Parents need to do a better jobs of rasing their kids or get on birth control if you are too lazy to get off your ***** and raise your child.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:44:pm

    @DAI- Oh, okay thank you.

    @SNOOP-ROTFL “can I spend the night…hell nawl” LOL how old was he though? just curious since you said your son is 9. I *****ume he has friends around his age.

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 13:45:pm

    “Question: back in the day during the “SAY NO TO DRUGS” error they always had police officers that paid visits to my cl***** (they were very nice too) and they discussed a wide range of topics or things officers deal with do they still have that program to speak to the youngsters?”

    They still have that program in many cities but its hard to compete with Rap Videos that glorify street and prison culture as well as parents who have never instilled any kind of core values in the children you want these officers to speak to. We have an entire generation that is being raised to believe that they are not supposed to listen to or respect any person in authority. That they are somehow ENTITLED to live well among their means,even though they have yet to put in one day of work on anything. that they don’t have to work hard because EASY money is at hand,never mind that Easy money leads to Easy incarceration. They need someone to speak the truth to them and let them know that the first arrest puts you on the radar FOR LIFE! We need to stop glorifying mediocrity and start DEMANDING excellence!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 13:46:pm

    @ Tony Redds….

    Officers aren’t trained tho think a situation through. They are trained by the books and what you will do.

    They need simulation courses, my opinion

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:46:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    No body cares about young black people no more, they write us all of as thugs

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:47:pm

    @TONY REDDS- I disagree or maybe I am not understanding, if so I apologize. Each and everytime and officer is dispatched to a scene and/or incident his or her first thing is to *****ess and *****yze the situation of what is going on.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 13:47:pm

    Ok, why are people harping on the “behavior of a fifteen year old child?”

    Let’s see, that was a CHILD and the police officer was a GROWN ***** MAN. HOW THE HELL DOES A “FIGHT” EVEN BREAK OUT?

    This tells me that the POLICE OFFICER didn’t know how to handle a situation. SMH.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 13:49:pm

    @ Talent2…

    You are right. No one cares about young black people, not even their own families.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:49:pm

    @SNOOP-ROTFL “can I spend the night…hell nawl” LOL how old was he though? just curious since you said your son is 9. I *****ume he has friends around his age.
    ___________

    he’s in the 6th grade so i *****ume he’s 11 or 12 yrs. old

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 13:50:pm

    @SNOOP
    “man yall trippin. These 15 year olds these days be lookin like Greg Oden!!!
    _____________

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA……I have a 9yr. old, and he brought lil ***** over with a full goatee and built like Mike Tyson….. talking about “can _______ spend the night at my house”? ( hell naw)…..lol”
    _____________________________________________________

    ***** YOU AIN’T LYIN!! I coach a 7-9 yr old football team and for our second game the opposing team looked like the New England Patriots!!

    I was like “Damn, number 75 have a thick ***** beard.”

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:50:pm

    @MISS B- Agree with both of your comments.
    @TALENT 2- I was just thinking the same thing as far as writing black males off as thugs (I noticed that in some of the comments) and I do not understand how that came to be. I can see if the above information mentioned a laundry list of criminal activities in the backgrounds of these young males, but it wasn’t, and they were still called thugs. SMH.
    @WRECKLESS DRIVER- Thank you, because I vividly remember that program, and your comment is 100% true.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:52:pm

    @SNOOP- Oh okay. I’m still cracking up LOL.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:52:pm

    ***** i damn near went and got my pistol for that lil boy, like wtf this grown a$$ ***** doing with my son….lol

    locksmith_bobby

    10/13/09, 13:52:pm

    @ crystal

    “SMH at everyone automatically blaming the police. They are just trying to do their job and keep our families safe. ”

    _____________________________________________

    That’s the type of propaganda they want you to believe. How do you just *****ume this teen was a thug?? You think their keeping you safe until they’re trumping charges on you to save their *****es.

    TRUST ME. I know better. I got court in two weeks over some bull***** and the cops lied on the police report.

    I witnessed a cop hitting a civilian car and the city of Atlanta trying to deny it to get out of it. I’ve got to go to court for that too and stand as a witness.

    You keep believing they’re great and dandy until your on the other side of their GUNS or they’re pushing you on the hood of your car. Just keep in mind that they’re employed to keep little guys like us in line for the elite to keep doing their dirty work.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 13:53:pm

    Wreckless Driver

    “Question: back in the day during the “SAY NO TO DRUGS” error they always had police officers that paid visits to my cl***** (they were very nice too) and they discussed a wide range of topics or things officers deal with do they still have that program to speak to the youngsters?”

    They still have that program in many cities but its hard to compete with Rap Videos that glorify street and prison culture as well as parents who have never instilled any kind of core values in the children you want these officers to speak to. We have an entire generation that is being raised to believe that they are not supposed to listen to or respect any person in authority. That they are somehow ENTITLED to live well among their means,even though they have yet to put in one day of work on anything. that they don’t have to work hard because EASY money is at hand,never mind that Easy money leads to Easy incarceration. They need someone to speak the truth to them and let them know that the first arrest puts you on the radar FOR LIFE! We need to stop glorifying mediocrity and start DEMANDING excellence!

    __________________________________

    and thats my point quick to right every black kid off, am a black teen I where baggy clothes, and listen to rap often, and my fathers in jail so im not raised right?? yet im going to college on a full scholorship, but because im black and stand up for what I believe im a thug, having respect for your self is not always doing what your told.

    locksmith_bobby

    10/13/09, 13:53:pm

    *they’re

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 13:54:pm

    @MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- Hey, you made a very good point the boy was a CHILD and the officer was a GROWN ##S MAN indeed.

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 13:54:pm

    I blame the state…I have taken many entry level police and firefighter exams. The bulk of the material is all situational scenarios and reading maps, not based on reading comprehension or arithmatic. They dont want a person who would think twice, they want the person who would make the best decision at the time even if it is a bad one….

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 13:56:pm

    15 the new 25….lmao!!!

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 13:58:pm

    @@ Ms.EJ….

    That’s the thing. With the way our race is portrayed and sadly act, other races are scared of us.

    That is what burns me to the bone more than anything! I want them to fear us for our potential for greatness,not because of some physical threat! I want them to see us as competition so that they have to raise their game which in turn will make us ALL raise ours which will make everyone better in the long run. Right now ,we just sit back and expect things to be given to us without working for them. The Mexicans come over here,legally and Illegally,work for small money and somehow have managed to make greater inroads then we have. What the HELL has happened to our work ethic as a people? I live in Philadelphia and i see Mexicans working any menial ***** job out there,saving their money and now buying and running their own business which is the jump off to attaining power in this country,while we buy our kids the latest Nikes.the latest cell phones,the latest video games all the while instilling the false sense of instant gratification. Asian kids WORK for theirs and go to college at a far greater number than ours. How many homeless Asians do you ever see? ZERO!! Because in Asian culture being to be homeless is to be seen as a sense of SHAME! They have enough pride to keep their family structure intact and their kids Achieve while we glorify dead rappers and try to emulate ball players who can barely read. We really need to step up our game people,by 2052 The Latino community will be the majority in this country while ours will continue to shrink. We don’t have that great a relationship with the Latino community or the Asians and it is to our benefit to change that in the future if we expect to continue,because truth be told we are running out of time.

    Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    10/13/09, 14:00:pm

    VERY SAD STORY, BUT THE FACT IS STILL….

    WE KILL OURSELVES MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE DOES.
    _____________________________________________

    @CERO

    You ain’t lying…

    We’re the only race that’s not only destroying ourselves but is also proud of it… SMH

    Why the f*ck are we following the lead of the “lessers” of our race and when I say that I’m talking about = drug dealers, pimps, etc… And now you have educated women thinking it’s just fine to be a baby momma like a hoodrat and they’re adopting their stank & nasty negative attitude too…

    SAD SITUATIONS

    10/13/09, 14:00:pm

    @sev

    “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police,
    please lets stop acting like its the cops fault most young black men have no respect for themselves or anyone else…. ITS THE BLACK MOTHERS AND FATHERS FAULT FOR NOT TEACHING THEIR KIDS BETTER.”

    THATS THE DUMBEST THING THAT YOU COULDVE SAID. YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE’S PARENT AS A REASON FOR THE POLICE TO GO OFF AND KILL A CHILD?? ALOT OF KIDS DONT HAVE ANYONE AROUND TO TEACH THEM A THING AND THEY GROW UP TO BE THE BEST OF PPL. THE POLICE’S JOB IS TO “PROTECT & SERVE” NOT KILL PPL. LET IT BE YOUR CHILD/NIECE/NEPHEW WHITE/BLACK.ASAIN/HISPANIC OR WHAT EVER AND YOU WILL NOT MAKE THAT SAME JUDGEMENT

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:00:pm

    @TONY REDDS- Oh okay and I didn’t think about that from that perspective regarding that the state wants the person who would make the best decision at the time even if it is a bad one.

    I`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

    10/13/09, 14:04:pm

    WHat up all !

    Somebody tell me why over the years you never heard a black officer go into a white neighborhood and kill a white man or boy ??!! I challenge anyone on bossip to come up with one story ! And matter fact don`t even try you won`t found it !

    But our history is littered with this … Black men , black boy`s, Black dudes dying or being injured while undercover !

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:04:pm

    15 yr old: * at the window of the house*
    cop: *nervous voice* what are yall doing?
    15 yr. old *stutter* i use to live here..
    cop: put your hands up both of you
    15 yr. old: man this my *****ing house, i ain’t doing nothing
    cop: *gun out, approches* i said put your hands up

    It should have been over at this point!!!

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:05:pm

    *typo* approaches

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:07:pm

    @WRECKLESS DRIVER- I couldn’t have said it well wrote it lol better, but in all seriousness we are RUNNING OUT OF TIME, and that is scary. Our work ethic has long gone out the backdoor for many reasons, but IMO the major contributing problem to that is UNITY. I was pretty much rasied around whites and hispanics (Souther California & later El Paso,TX) and I’ve seen the work ethics of the hispanics. It is a known fact that hispanics will take just about any job for low pay, whereas Americans feel that they are above a certain wage or working enviorment. The hispanics seem to not care, because they see the bigger picture which results in moving their whole family to the states into a beautiful big house in a nice area same with the Asians. It still blows my mind though how Asians can set up shop in a black neighborhood and make bank, but if a black own person does the same we turn the othe way. We seem to not support each other.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:08:pm

    The fact is….

    This little dude needs to respect authority and since some kids don’t respect their own parents, cops need to be trained on how to handle children in situations they are called out to. A gun should have never been used unless lil man pulled his own gun out.

    Cops are not trained properly and something needs to be done about this.

    Txhustla15

    10/13/09, 14:08:pm

    @Snoop & Tony Redds- Whats Good fam

    As far how to deal with a police officer…that line of logic is outdated and ineffective – its all subjective by your region. In some places like here its simply *****ume the position and those “non lethal” means are what you have worry about these days as more officers use them as it leaves less evidence and its generally considered to be a non lethal tool. In reality depending where you are sadly these days when it is your time it is your time. Robbie Tolan and countless others have complied to the fullest extent and still became victims, The only reason that I personally hold such disdain and sarcasm is because in any case in my lifetime I have yet to see any officer be held accountable or any serious jail time. Especially when one of use could get caught stealing a pair of socks and do more time. Or any of the supposed “good” cops stand out against those that disgrace any ideal of law enforcement..

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:08:pm

    Why the f*ck are we following the lead of the “lessers” of our race and when I say that I’m talking about = drug dealers, pimps, etc… And now you have educated women thinking it’s just fine to be a baby momma like a hoodrat and they’re adopting their stank & nasty negative attitude too…
    ______________

    1000% co-sign

    Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    10/13/09, 14:09:pm

    Y’all can keep trying to fight the police if y’all want to but you gotta understand that no matter how big & bad you think you are the odds are simply not in your favor ’cause the police have:

    - one-on-one combat training
    - mace or pepper spray
    - tasers
    - baton
    - Oh yeah, they have loaded guns too
    AND back up nearby or on the way…

    Odds ain’t in your favor Black – don’t talk too much and just comply with their orders no matter what the situation is… ‘Cause a judge is going to believe them (police officer) before they believe you… SMH

    Serve, protect and break a ni@@as neck… – Ice Cube

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:09:pm

    @I’LL TALK ABOUT WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT NUCCA- 1000% true, I definitely can not come up with one story, NOT ONE and I’m in my late 20s.

    free

    10/13/09, 14:10:pm

    miss b, have you ever taken one of the simulations that they give to officers? i have. you’d probably wind up dead in each of the scenarios. they go by very quickly; you’d be surprised at how little time you have to react.

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:11:pm

    @`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

    what up boo!!! umm ur not gonna get anyone to answer that??? son. lol

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:11:pm

    @MISS B & TXHUSTLA15- Tell it!

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:11:pm

    tx hustla……whaddup fam, ready or this season to start??

    Txhustla15

    10/13/09, 14:14:pm

    Yeah NFL Season with my Bucs is a wash from the start so looking forward to watch my Lakers repeat , been watching preseason ball….

    Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    10/13/09, 14:14:pm

    These 15 year olds these days be lookin like Greg Oden!!!

    our second game the opposing team looked like the New England Patriots!!

    I was like “Damn, number 75 have a thick ***** beard.”
    ______________________________________________

    @Snoop & Man, I Just Don’t Care

    I went to my nephews JV basketball game last year and the other team had 3 dudes that could DUNK!!!

    They were even doing alley-oops… SMH

    I’ve NEVER seen no mess like that before, not on no JV team…

    Tony Redds

    10/13/09, 14:14:pm

    Txhustla15

    @Snoop & Tony Redds- Whats Good fam
    —————

    What up son!!! Yea it does depend on ur region…

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:15:pm

    @ free…

    The point of those simulations are to evaluate how you react in quick situations…. they aren’t meant to go slow. No, I’ve never taken.

    Tell me, did you pull your gun in every situation? Did they teach you how to not be trigger-happy?

    Cops need to be evaluated in certain simulations I think that envolves more psychological/ mental aspects. Too often are these deaths race related.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:15:pm

    I`ll Talk about what I want to talk about Nucca !

    I don’t recall one…..lol

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 14:17:pm

    @SNOOP

    You got me dyin in here dawg talkin bout you was gonna pull a gun on that child! ROFLMAO.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 14:17:pm

    @Ms.EJ
    @WRECKLESS DRIVER

    and unity we will never have
    because no matter how hard we try the white people will knock us back down, so why try??

    EX. I know some of yall heard about that black football coach (who took his team to the champ) that applied for a head coach job but lost it to a white guy who lost 19 game in a row

    p.s. im not rasict at all like Ms.EJ I was raised around white people

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:18:pm

    Why does a person pull a gun or weapon first??

    Either they want to enjoy killing ya ***** or they scared…

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:21:pm

    Oh LAWD!! men I see this will be turning into a sports post LOL, men and their sports LOL…just teasing.

    Overall, I think that it all starts at home with the parents who are raising black males. Sit down and talk to them, and show them video’s of incidents with officers in different situations deadly and non-deadly to show the seriousness of the matter. I love my black men and I want nothing, but the best for them. There are so many good, positive black men that the media does not show and that is hurtful. Not all are thugs, you have many who are Godfearing family men who are head of their households, and provide for their families and/or their communities.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:22:pm

    You got me dyin in here dawg talkin bout you was gonna pull a gun on that child! ROFLMAO.
    _______

    and the lil ***** didn’t have a kids voice, ***** sounded like Lou Rawls and *****…..

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 14:23:pm

    I’m sorry, I just can’t force myself to “shuck and jive” for no white man. Police officer or not.

    HE will refer to ME with “Mr.” and “Sir” at all times. His tone of voice will be subserviant and respectful at all times. HE will have to act like I pay his salary.

    Call me what you want…

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 14:24:pm

    @Miss B

    And if the gun was pulled first the story make no sence because *****ody is going to go at a cop with a gun out

    but we will never know the real story, I bet they got a deal in the works with the boy whos in jail,
    they working on something, they wont answer no questions I guess they wants to get STORY stright

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 14:24:pm

    @TALENT 2
    “EX. I know some of yall heard about that black football coach (who took his team to the champ) that applied for a head coach job but lost it to a white guy who lost 19 game in a row”
    ___________________________________________________________

    NAW… where can read about that?

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:25:pm

    HE will refer to ME with “Mr.” and “Sir” at all times. His tone of voice will be subserviant and respectful at all times. HE will have to act like I pay his salary.
    _____________

    LMFAO!! hope yo a$$ immune to pepper spray….

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:25:pm

    @TALENT 2- I know you aren’t, and I can read the concern and sad tone in your comments, because you just want better for our black men and for blacks in general…again I say it starts at home…its up to the rest if they want to join in.

    @MISS B- You have officers who are control-freaks, you also have officers who are sick in the head and do get a thrill almost a sexual climax in knowing that they can kill someone, be put on paid administrative leave and get off. You also have great cops who truly do want to serve and protect the community, though I feel that is rare.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 14:25:pm

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 14:26:pm

    @SLIDE
    “I went to my nephews JV basketball game last year and the other team had 3 dudes that could DUNK!!!

    They were even doing alley-oops… SMH

    I’ve NEVER seen no mess like that before, not on no JV team…”
    ________________________________________________________

    Yeah, dawg. These kids is bigger than a **********a these days.

    The next “Lebron James” coming straight outta middle school!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:26:pm

    @ Talent2…

    You already know. They are making threats or telling that young man if he says this or that, he won’t get any jail time.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 14:27:pm

    @Talent2

    “To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are”
    ___________________________________________________________

    THANK YOU for agreeing with me!! That’s probably a better way of phrasing it to the poorly educated (in general by statistics) police officers!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:28:pm

    @ Man…

    HE will refer to ME with “Mr.” and “Sir” at all times. His tone of voice will be subserviant and respectful at all times. HE will have to act like I pay his salary.
    ……………….

    So you’ll be the next bossip headline….

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:31:pm

    @TALENT2 & MAN I JUST DON’T CARE- I agree 100% that to get respect you got to give respect, no matter who you are…but try that with a control-freak cop who has the mentality that he is already superior then you, its like a no win situation, sometimes you just have to bite the bullet if you want to make it back home to your family. The happiness on your kids face (if you have any) and all those who love you is way more important then a bruised ego per se. But I definitely understand where the both of you are coming from.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 14:33:pm

    “Ok, why are people harping on the “behavior of a fifteen year old child?”

    Let’s see, that was a CHILD and the police officer was a GROWN ***** MAN. HOW THE HELL DOES A “FIGHT” EVEN BREAK OUT?

    This tells me that the POLICE OFFICER didn’t know how to handle a situation. SMH.”

    as i said before – it happens the same way it happened when that young girl got punched in the face by the whitie cop and all you *****hs thought it was so funny and she deserved it! the only difference being the girl was arguing with the cop as opposed to this boy trying to break into someones house and then resisting and fighting the cops when approached.

    how do you say the cop couldn’t handle a child when it was the underaged boy resisting adn fighting him but the cop did everything right when it was a girl yelling at him to stop yanking on her pregnant mother? see what I was saying in that thread that day? the male will be as guilty as sin yet everyone issupposed to gather around him and his family and take it to the streets – but its okay for a young girl to be punched in her face by cops!!! LOL – you *****hs trip me out with your warped mentality!! its okay to beat on the young female but leave the young black male alone even when he deserves it!

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:33:pm

    OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.

    @MISS B- I was thinking the same thing.

    free

    10/13/09, 14:35:pm

    miss b, no i did not pull my weapon in every situation and sometimes i got killed.

    my point is that we are evaluating from a knowlege standpoint whereas a cop does not have that information and has to evaluate in real time.

    you really f*ck up the odds of surviving a police encounter if you want to talk sh*t, get in the cop’s face, refuse to acknowledge or follow demands, not drop your weapon, or fight.

    sean bell of NYC, innocent victim, did none of these things. the dude in the oakland train station, none of these things.

    the problem, as someone indicated, is that we do not teach discipline and respect for authority to our children AND WE KNOW IT. they then think they can jump stupid with EVERYBODY that is until somebody shuts their *sses down. then we want to have a stop the violence march.

    didn’t we just discuss last week????

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 14:35:pm

    And hold up I just found the first article its not one officer there was a police chief too. 2 grown men Vs A 15(don’t say nothing about the other kid yet hes in jail still 2 days later)

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:35:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.

    LMFAO MS. EJ WHERE DID THAT COME FROM LMAO THAT WAS A GOOD ONE OK IM GOING BACK INTO HIDEING

    Damn D

    10/13/09, 14:36:pm

    @DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    Preach!!!!

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:36:pm

    @DA HONEST TRUTH- 1000% AGREE. I don’t think I was able to post a comment that day (something about moderation) but I was not only offended, but shocked at all the vast majority of the comments, especially from men (serious side eye) were saying how she should’ve gotten socked, alot said that they would have shot her and that she would have deserved it, but good that he chin checked her. I’m with you on that. That was bizarre to me to say the least.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:37:pm

    OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…
    ________

    I wish all the women would put up a booty shot..;)

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:37:pm

    @ FREE…

    I didn’t discuss last week.

    And read my previous post and you will see my comments regarding the young man’s disrespect for authority.

    And my point regarding cops and their training is that it needs to be BETTER!!!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:38:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    @DA HONEST TRUTH- 1000% AGREE. I don’t think I was able to post a comment that day (something about moderation) but I was not only offended, but shocked at all the vast majority of the comments, especially from men (serious side eye) were saying how she should’ve gotten socked, alot said that they would have shot her and that she would have deserved it, but good that he chin checked her. I’m with you on that. That was bizarre to me to say the least.

    THAT WAS POSTED ON BOSSIP UMM I MUST OF MISSED THAT CARRY ON.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:38:pm

    @ Ms.EJ
    OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…ok, back to the reguarly scheduled program LOL.
    ……………..

    I don’t know how to do all the face posting and what not.

    @ Snoop…

    I wish all the guys would post frontal pictures ;)

    steph

    10/13/09, 14:39:pm

    @ThatMixedChick
    Black People: Any time you are interacting with a police officer, sit down and shut the ***** up!!!! Also keep your hands to yourself and don’t make any sudden movements!!! Don’t try to figh somebody with billy clubs, mase, guns, and backup because you will LOSE.
    —————————————————————————-
    Black people aren’t the ONLY race to talk or fight back, or have you never seen an episode of COPS? Hell, a White person can curse, spit, push, or hit a cop….We (Blacks) are just damn near the only race that gets SHOT and killed…

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:39:pm

    @THE TRUTH_PRETTY BROWN EYES-ROTFL I know it was so random, but sometimes I really be feeling what others are expressing, especially when they are very p*****ionate on a certain matter, and just would like to put a face to the comment,or the tone of a comment makes me curious.LMBO.

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:40:pm

    @snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    OFF TOPIC- I wish I could see the faces of those I interact with online…IDK…just a though LOL…
    ________

    I wish all the women would put up a booty shot..;)

    SNOOOPY!!!! STOP IT I THOUGHT U WERE BEING SERIOUS TODAY. NO TALK OF SEX OR SEXUAL BEHAVIOR WE GOT A MAN DOWN SITUATION HERE.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:40:pm

    gravatar.com–>its free, and you can post your picture *sliding out the back door*

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:40:pm

    I wish all the guys would post frontal pictures
    _________

    tried and bossip blocked me….. :)

    Oh Well...

    10/13/09, 14:41:pm

    RIP little dude.

    DON’T *****ing “scuffle” with the police…they can do whatever the ***** they want and most of the time get away with it. you’re kidding yourself if you think you can “win” against a police officer on the street.

    I wish his mom and family strength and peace.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:41:pm

    @ Steph…

    on COPS, the white people get handled. Not by a gun as said, but by placing them in a headlock or in some manner restraining the individual.

    Or they get the dogs out. But you never see them pull their gun out and pull trigger.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:41:pm

    @THE TRUTH_PRETTY BROWN EYES- “we got a man down…” *flatline*

    free

    10/13/09, 14:41:pm

    damn, thank you slide. that’s all i’m trying to say. i hope people are not thinking it’s ok to wild out on the police if you are young or “slight” because the police should not do you anything. the objective is to live another day. sad but true.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 14:42:pm

    “@Talent2

    “To get respect you got give respect, no matter who you are”
    ___________________________________________________________

    THANK YOU for agreeing with me!! That’s probably a better way of phrasing it to the poorly educated (in general by statistics) police officers!”

    and in a perfect world both of you would be dead on 100% right. but in the REAL WORLD if you don’t want a bullet in your head or sphincter you will do what a cop tells you to whether you feel you are being respected or not! you don’t have to respect him but you need to abide by what he is saying or asking of you!

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:42:pm

    SNOOOPY!!!! STOP IT I THOUGHT U WERE BEING SERIOUS TODAY. NO TALK OF SEX OR SEXUAL BEHAVIOR WE GOT A MAN DOWN SITUATION HERE.
    _______

    You’re right, this not a laughing matter.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:45:pm

    @ truth..i wasn’t kidding though…..lol

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:47:pm

    @snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    SNOOOPY!!!! STOP IT I THOUGHT U WERE BEING SERIOUS TODAY. NO TALK OF SEX OR SEXUAL BEHAVIOR WE GOT A MAN DOWN SITUATION HERE.
    _______

    You’re right, this not a laughing matter.

    OK SNOOPY AS LONG AS U KNOW I CANT BE HARD ON U GOT LOVE FOR U BETWEEN ME AND U I THINK MS.WJ GOT A THING FOR EITHER U OR MJDC. NOW I WOULD BE TELLING U TO PUT UR MACK DOWN IF IT WERE ANYOTHER POST BUT THIS NOT THE RIGHT TIME OR PLACE. BUT IF SHE CATCH U ON A FREAKY FRIDAY HANDLE THAT MAH DUDE. LMFBAO

    steph

    10/13/09, 14:47:pm

    @Miss B
    Your right…and thats my point…WHY IS THAT?

    If the person climbing into the window had been White…I doubt they would have gotten shot, whether they talked or fought back.

    Same offense…just different race…

    chloe

    10/13/09, 14:47:pm

    @ talent2
    My point is, is why is it only news when a police officer or a white person kills a black person? Black people are their own worst enemy, not the cops or “the evil white man”!

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    10/13/09, 14:47:pm

    Hey Peeps!!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 14:49:pm

    @ Chloe…

    It’s the mindset of society

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 14:49:pm

    I come from a generation where the cops administered ***** whoopings from the drivers seat. They were to lazy to get out the car. They’ll roll up on you and be like, you, come here. Don’t run. If I get out this car, your ***** is good as dead.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:50:pm

    @THE TRUTH_PRETTY- Ah…no LOL e-things for anyone…I didn’t even know I gave off that vibe LOL for real though. Just simple interaction that’s all with everyone or so I thought.

    talent2

    10/13/09, 14:50:pm

    I know how to deal with cops its one of my talents,
    but where I live it don’t really matter, the cops are cool for the most part witch is weird

    africa

    10/13/09, 14:51:pm

    im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 14:51:pm

    @Talent2

    and unity we will never have
    because no matter how hard we try the white people will knock us back down, so why try??

    __________________________________________________

    You have got to stop focusing on White Folks. This ***** has gone GLOBAL now! All around the world,folks are looking at us with disdain. We have done very little to step up our game and show that we can compete with the rest of the world. By focusing your view on White America you are leaving yourself wide open to be p*****ed by. The Whites in America are seeing the rest of the world p*****ing them by and by maintaining that “White Man holding be back”menatlity,you are falling behind even further. This is bigger than the hood,your city,state and country. This is GLOBAL! Our image around the world is of a lazy,violent,ignorant,hedonistic,unprincipled people. Africans don’t even want anything to do with us anymore. I appreciate your p*****ion and where it comes from,but you are so far off the mark. You need to expand your view and see how the WORLD sees us. THAT is the problem.

    africa

    10/13/09, 14:51:pm

    bunch and park

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 14:52:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    @THE TRUTH_PRETTY- Ah…no LOL e-things for anyone…I didn’t even know I gave off that vibe LOL for real though. Just simple interaction that’s all with everyone or so I thought.

    HAHAHAHA I KNOW I KNOW I WAS JUST KIDDING.

    L.A.T.I.N.O

    10/13/09, 14:54:pm

    why would you scuffle with a police officer?? i mean why? sometimes you blacks are so dumb.

    talent2

    10/13/09, 14:55:pm

    @chloe

    Im on the side of the victim no matter black/white or a dog, yeah some people are like that but not all go look at the one for the chicago teen over 800 comments

    Smart

    10/13/09, 14:55:pm

    Guess you can ask yourself would this all be the same outcome if it were a white kid, and a black cop? Don’t think too hard, let me answer that for you. No. We would have the picture of the black cop and he would be incarcerated UNTIL the details came out. No matter how disrespectful or ruley a white kid gets if a black cop shot him that’s his *****, his job, and I hate to say but also his life.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 14:56:pm

    @THE TRUTH_PRETTY BROWN EYES- Oh okay LOL, plus I’m still semi- new to the site don’t want to step on anyones toes LOL.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 14:57:pm

    I grew up with the corrupt L.A.P.D. Lennox sheriffs, firestone sheriffs and i know plenty of shootings and a$$ whoopings that don’t make the news…Do yourself a favor and follow instructions, to live and see another day…

    Smart

    10/13/09, 14:58:pm

    Hormonal teenagers lol.. they are at fault? I can see something like that esculating fast. The weapons should not have been drawn in the first place when dealing with kids younger than 15 years old.

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 15:01:pm

    @ Snoop.

    Survival of the fitess. They better put this ***** in reality TV perspective if it helps. Black male Survival Island.

    Ms.EJ

    10/13/09, 15:02:pm

    Its been good echat later (The Truth, Talent2, Miss B, Wreckless) and everyone else…have a good safe day :D

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:03:pm

    @snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    I grew up with the corrupt L.A.P.D. Lennox sheriffs, firestone sheriffs and i know plenty of shootings and a$$ whoopings that don’t make the news…Do yourself a favor and follow instructions, to live and see another day…

    snoop I know that as well as u do. But come on now LAPD NYPD and many cops all around the country not all but many are evil azz hell they look at as whoopings as a sport hunt niggz down and commence to straight azz whoopings. All im continuing to say is that u can listen to cops all u want follow instructions and them niggz will still molly whop ur azz. sick dogs on u. and put they foot in ur back or neck and thats real talk.

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:03:pm

    @Wreckless Driver

    You might not want to believe it but for black people as a whole to come together we need white people, or like these mexicans we need to move when I get out of college do you think im gonna be working for a black guy, as much as I would like that I doubt it, thats why when a black person does something its so important because EX Obama, Dungy, for white people it an every day thing

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:04:pm

    @Ms.EJ

    Same to you

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:06:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    bye hun

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:07:pm

    snoop I know that as well as u do. But come on now LAPD NYPD and many cops all around the country not all but many are evil azz hell they look at as whoopings as a sport hunt niggz down and commence to straight azz whoopings. All im continuing to say is that u can listen to cops all u want follow instructions and them niggz will still molly whop ur azz. sick dogs on u. and put they foot in ur back or neck and thats real talk.
    ________

    I agree……i just want give them more ammo to justify killing my black a$$$…(lol) I gotkids i want to come home too, i’m not saying kiss their azz yes sir no sir deal, just don’t think you can cuss the out like lil Johnny and get he same outcome….

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:08:pm

    @ MsEJ:

    “@DA HONEST TRUTH- 1000% AGREE. I don’t think I was able to post a comment that day (something about moderation) but I was not only offended, but shocked at all the vast majority of the comments, especially from men (serious side eye) were saying how she should’ve gotten socked, alot said that they would have shot her and that she would have deserved it, but good that he chin checked her. I’m with you on that. That was bizarre to me to say the least.”

    Thanks – I’m happy to know I’m not the only one who found stomach turning all the brothas who though it was okay for thatgrown cop to punch that young girl in her face – yet I knew like I knew my name that the day would come when they would be up in here trying to defend some black man/child/male who clearly played a huge role in his own fate.

    @ Truth – Brown Eyes:

    go back to Thursdays threads and look for a thread titled: F*CK THE POLICE – watch the video and then read the comments where all the brothas thought she deserved to be punched in her face even though I do not see her even hit the cop first as they claim she did to justify their gloat at her being *****aulted by the grown man/cop!

    if Bossip doesn’t censor me for trying to post one of their own links, here it is:

    http : //bossip . com/164110/fck-the-police/

    just remove the *****es I had to put in so it would post.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:08:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    Later!

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:09:pm

    @Wreckless Driver

    And I get what your saying but answer this how am I going to better myself I go to school do the best I can but when I go for the job, a less experience white person gets it, my family not rich I cant start my own business, so one has to give me a break, let me ask you what do you do for a living??

    always knew

    10/13/09, 15:11:pm

    I don’t agree with what happened. I will say, that the police will NEVER stop killing us, for any reason they feel like, if we can’t get ourselves under control. A blk life,(IN ANY COUNTRY) is still worthless, this happens everyday, in almost every country. We don’t even respect ourselves, but want others, too.

    The police are wrong, and they have been wrong before. However, everyday I am tried of seeing blk on blk violence/ death. It’s stupid and I wish it would stop. These situations make me feel powerless and I abhor feeling this way…

    Until we change, you can be damn sure that noone else will change…

    Just my 2 cents.. :(

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:11:pm

    “im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.”

    i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me!

    Damn D

    10/13/09, 15:13:pm

    Naw.. I take that back @THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    U should change ur name to (UR OPINION) not THE TRUTH….

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:14:pm

    @ always knew…

    I agree

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:17:pm

    i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me
    __________

    sounds like somebody lives in the ghetto, i dn’tsee any of that where i live even though i know it goes on in every ghetto, trailer park and barrio…If you want to feel safe get moneand move out the ghetto, i did ;)

    the sane one

    10/13/09, 15:18:pm

    SORRY THE YOUNG MAN WAS KILLED BUT WE SHOULD ALSO TEACH OUR CHILDREN TO RESPECT AUTHORTY. THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYD STILL AND NOT MOVED A MUSCLE. OFFICERS ARE IN A SERIOUS POSITION TO PROTECT THEIR SELVES AND THE COMMUNITY. RESPECT THEM . YES THERE ARE SOME REALLY FOUL COPS OUT THERE BUT I DOUGT THEY SET OUT TO KILL THIS YOUNG MAN.
    _________________________________________________

    completely agree

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:18:pm

    @DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    “im sorry but anytime i see an african american man walking past me when i go to work i hold my briefcase harder towards me, and i am black too. when i see a uch of them in the ark chilling i know something is up and it is not just hey friends how are ya.”

    i just had this discussion with someone the other night where they were shocked when I told them I fear the black man more in a day than I do a white man all year. i don’t fear getting caught in the white mans crossfire. I don’t fear the white man jumping out of a bush and robbing, raping or killing me. I don’t fear the white man bringing half the harm to me that I fear a black man bringing to me!
    ……………….

    It has to do not only with media but where you are from as well.

    If i see a group of black men, it depends on the actions they are portraying. Even if i’m scared or not, I say, “hello” and continue walking. It’s a mentality and why fear a person of they have not showed you any harm.

    I am more likely to fear walking near a crowd of white men… WHY? I am from the South… hopefully enough said.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:19:pm

    are somebodies watching too much TV…lol

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:20:pm

    @snoopy
    and i understand what u saying and im not trying to say that u should be like ole good sam bo no sir yes sir and all that. All im saying is that i’ve seen first hand that u can comply with cops sometimes even be innocent and still get ur azz handed to you. just be one of the many statistics on t.v waiting for ur payout saying how u did everything the officer told u to do but u still got more ***** on ur dam head then a basball game. I’ve seen it with my own eyes ppl trying to explain ***** to the cops with they hands up and the cop straight punch them in the face like ***** shut up trust. so like i said earlier we dont know all the details and we were not there but when a officer says we used force b/c the person refussed to follow orders. that dont mean ***** to me b/c alot of times ppl do follow orders and the cops still put they foot in they azz then say well they were resisting arrest and u know that.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:21:pm

    “sounds like somebody lives in the ghetto, i dn’tsee any of that where i live even though i know it goes on in every ghetto, trailer park and barrio…If you want to feel safe get moneand move out the ghetto, i did”

    Actually I live in a very upper middle cl***** area of New Jersey. the ghetto is by far the only place the black man does his dirt! But you can *****ess it however you choose to – the point being that I do not fear the white man one third of how much I fear a black man.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:24:pm

    “are somebodies watching too much TV…lol”

    is someone offended that the black man is so out of control that now he is scaring his own more than any other race – even the former slave owners – ever could? someone must have a serious complex or the truth really hurts!

    I'm here to help....

    10/13/09, 15:24:pm

    @Wreckless Driver

    You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, *****yzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

    The cause is “Deprivation.”

    When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

    So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

    Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

    I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

    ***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.

    TONY T

    10/13/09, 15:27:pm

    some of u ppl dont understand.i knew him and he was like family yo me.these police here dont give a damn bout no black ppl even the black policemen.so b4 u make a comment u need to think.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:28:pm

    Actually I live in a very upper middle cl***** area of New Jersey. the ghetto is by far the only place the black man does his dirt! But you can *****ess it however you choose to – the point being that I do not fear the white man one third of how much I fear a black man.
    ________

    Sorry you feel that way sista, i know the black man have built a very bad reputation, but it soundslike your so far from the truth because the white man haved lynched us, raped our women, set laws that cage us up for many years, 100 x’s what a BM would ever do to you in a lifetme but you seem like you put them on a pedestal…

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 15:31:pm

    @I’M HERE TO HELP
    “You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, *****yzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

    The cause is “Deprivation.”

    When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

    So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

    Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

    I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

    ***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    You need to start over on your dissertation.

    Awesome-O-3000 (D.U.K.E)

    10/13/09, 15:32:pm

    We need to teach respect to our children. Respect God, your parents, authority and each other. That seems to be lacking these days.

    always knew

    10/13/09, 15:34:pm

    I am not scared of people who look like me.

    I would NEVER allow someone to influence what I KNOW to be true, about my own. Too bad, you took what I saying literally. I was just iusing an expression. Too badm you took it to mean, you thought I was running behind m*****a/ wht man…

    You completely missed the point, being made. And I’m not upset or offended by it, because the perception issue, is exactly why our community is in the shape that it is. World wide we have no power, when we can’t control, our people being killed. This is happening everywhere. Stop being so naive, trying to turn into us vs. them. Deal with the issues, maybe then we can get p***** this ignorant ish….

    Opinions are like a–holes: everyone has one… :)

    lorie love

    10/13/09, 15:34:pm

    It’s a conspiracy why our Black youths are dieing everyday and I am tierd of these cracker ***** police Killing our black people when ever they feel the need play target practice but God will be the judge of that because judement day is coming.you know what all thoes white police cowards are is the kkk in police uniforms

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:35:pm

    @ Awesome..

    Agreed. The children lack b/c parents lack, but we have to start somewhere.

    We need to put fear/respect for GOD and Life.

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:38:pm

    @DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    ok thanks for sending me that link. I just got back from thurs thread and all I can say is wow. It did prove my point in how officers handle situations sometimes he punched that lil girl in her face without hesitatin SMDH WOW AND THE COMMENTS. U KNOW WHAT NO COMMENT B/C I REALLY DONT FEEL LIKE ARGUING TODAY BUT MANY OF THEM WERE UNCALLED FOR AND ALL I CAN SAY IF IT WERE THIER OWN DAUGHTER MOTHER NEICES OR SISTERS I HOPE THEY WOULD SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 15:39:pm

    White kids spit in their parents face and call their Mohter’s *****es and *****s and ***** and you mean to tell me NONE of them have EVER gotten out of pocket with a police officer?

    SMH at some of these posters.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:39:pm

    is someone offended that the black man is so out of control that now he is scaring his own more than any other race – even the former slave owners – ever could? someone must have a serious complex or the truth really hurts!
    ___________

    LMFAO!! I wish you the best ma, i want go back and forward, i have no control over what other *****s do…I’m not offended at all, thats your issue you have to live with not me….:)

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:40:pm

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    You need to start over on your dissertation.

    LMFBAO U R SUCH A BEAST SOMETIMES LMFAO Y WAS THAT WARRANTED. Y LMAO Y!!

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:42:pm

    HOW CAN A PARENT TEACH SOMETHING THAT THEY NEVER LEARNED????

    FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER IT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN OUTSIDE!!!!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:44:pm

    @snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    is someone offended that the black man is so out of control that now he is scaring his own more than any other race – even the former slave owners – ever could? someone must have a serious complex or the truth really hurts!
    ___________

    LMFAO!! I wish you the best ma, i want go back and forward, i have no control over what other *****s do…I’m not offended at all, thats your issue you have to live with not me….:)

    WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD.

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:45:pm

    @Man, I just don’t care™
    THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHITE PEOPLE STICK TOGEHTER LOOK AT THIS TOPIC LOOK AT ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE CALLING THIS 15 YEAR OLD A THUG AND THEY HAVE NOT EVEN SEEN A PICTURE OF HIM.

    I'm here to help....

    10/13/09, 15:47:pm

    @Man….

    Why?

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:47:pm

    This lil man could have been trying to show off. it’s considered cool to not follow rules…. sadly he’s dead over it.

    sunny

    10/13/09, 15:48:pm

    @ sev & Hannibal

    You say its the black mother and fathers fault for not teaching there kids, ok fair enough. Then it’s the white mother and father fault when their kids commit suicide, and go on m***** murder killing sprees right! I guess they didn’t teach there kids either….

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 15:48:pm

    @THE TRUTH
    “You need to start over on your dissertation.
    _________________________________________________________

    LMFBAO U R SUCH A BEAST SOMETIMES LMFAO Y WAS THAT WARRANTED. Y LMAO Y!!”
    ___________________________________________________________

    For real tho. Did you read what they wrote? Took them 3 pages to not say a thing. SMH.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:49:pm

    WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD
    ___________

    *taking a bow* Thank you Thank you Thank you, your far too kind….. ;)

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:49:pm

    “Sorry you feel that way sista, i know the black man have built a very bad reputation, but it soundslike your so far from the truth because the white man haved lynched us, raped our women, set laws that cage us up for many years, 100 x’s what a BM would ever do to you in a lifetme but you seem like you put them on a pedestal…”

    why is it the black man will go back hundreds of years to point out the white mans pain, suffering and murder towards blacks but wont comment on the pain, suffering and murder the black man brings to blacks TODAY!!!?????!!!!!

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:50:pm

    @I’m here to help….

    QUESTION HOW DOES ONE GET DEPRIVED???

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:50:pm

    Some white poeple look down on us like we are still slaves.

    Why does the media always show blacks killing… to say, “this is how black people act once we freed them.” We are the news people, we are the freak show, the gladiators, the entertainment.

    Blck people we need to get our ***** together.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 15:50:pm

    @THE TRUTH
    “WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    My ***** Snoop always nice to these *****es. That’s my ***** right thur.

    Awesome-O-3000 (D.U.K.E)

    10/13/09, 15:51:pm

    @ Man

    White kids spit in their parents face and call their Mohter’s *****es and *****s and ***** and you mean to tell me NONE of them have EVER gotten out of pocket with a police officer?
    _________________________

    They get killed too. The difference is that it doesn’t make the national media because it’s not considered to be racially motivated. Anything racial automatically ups the ratings.

    I'm here to help....

    10/13/09, 15:51:pm

    @Man…

    Clearly, you are not serious. I asked for reasoning. Not more self-loathing.

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    10/13/09, 15:52:pm

    WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD
    ———————————————

    BOO!!!

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    10/13/09, 15:53:pm

    @miss B…Some white poeple look down on us like we are still slaves.

    —————————————————
    Thats b/c you are, Learn some history sweetie!!
    look up moorish americans and claim your soverignty

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 15:53:pm

    My ***** Snoop always nice to these *****es. That’s my ***** right thur.
    _______________

    ROTFLMBAO!!!!

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:54:pm

    @Awesome-O-3000

    AND THE FUNNIST PART ABOUT THAT IS THATS IS NOT THE BLACKS WHO ARE MAKING THESE STORY’S NATIONAL AND LOOK WHAT IT DOES TURNS BLACKS AGAINST BLACK

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:54:pm

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    @miss B…Some white poeple look down on us like we are still slaves.

    —————————————————
    Thats b/c you are, Learn some history sweetie!!
    look up moorish americans and claim your soverignty

    …………………….

    Sweetie…. if your comments will be stupid, please don’t address me as i will not you!!

    Seek the Light Beyond the Shadows

    10/13/09, 15:54:pm

    Its going down out in these streets. Mothers protect your babies by keeping a stern eye on them. Know where there at and who there with at all times. Yes, the task is impossible at times but do your very best. At the end of the night Pray for your family.

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:55:pm

    “WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD.”

    i noticed that too though he did make a ghetto reference to me which was just as degrading. maybe he didn’t let the b*tch word fly cause he knows he really doesn’t have a “leg to stand on”. you could take blacks from all walks of life – ghetto right on up to well off – and i am pretty sure the majority of them will tell you they fear other black men much more than they fear white men. sad but true and not my fault!

    Crystal

    10/13/09, 15:55:pm

    My husband is a strong and kind black man and a police officer. He is a good father, very, very good to me (the mother of his children and his wife), and is college educated and very intelligent. Why should HE, if he is busting up a fight or responding to an emergency call or parti*****ting in a drug bust, call anyone SIR?! To get respect, you have to respect. I’ve been pulled over for speeding and so on before and I always am polite, apologetic for my speeding, and friendly to police officers. They always treat me with respect back (I am a black woman).

    My husband hates nothing more than to be out doing his job and trying to approach someone and that person responding with all that defiance and hatred. Both black and white men have this attitude with him and he always will make their experience with him as painful as possible (not necessarily physically, but will be tough on them in some way). He say that latino and asian men are generally very respectful and he usually ends up being a lot softer on them. To get respect you got to give respect. Many officers like my husband just out there doing there job to protect our families and put food on the table.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 15:56:pm

    talent2

    @Awesome-O-3000

    AND THE FUNNIST PART ABOUT THAT IS THATS IS NOT THE BLACKS WHO ARE MAKING THESE STORY’S NATIONAL AND LOOK WHAT IT DOES TURNS BLACKS AGAINST BLACK
    ……………….

    What *****es the black community off and causes an uproar…. racist crimes, black on black crime.

    I totally agree with you.

    BE

    10/13/09, 15:56:pm

    Hey Snoop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    MIJDC♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    10/13/09, 15:59:pm

    “WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD
    ___________

    *taking a bow* Thank you Thank you Thank you, your far too kind…..”

    imagine being so out of control and disrespectful that you are literally positively reinforced for not doing so – like a little retarded child. while you pat yourself on the back – think about that! think about how a person could be known for being so rude and hateful and degrading to women on this board that you are actually patted on the back and offered the “panties” when you are not! i don’t know about anyone else but to this grounded intelligent sista right here thats not a good thing! the board should be shocked when a person is rude, not when their decent!

    but thats the problem with the black man now. thats why the cops shoot first! noone wants to deal with all that obnoxiousness!

    BE

    10/13/09, 15:59:pm

    Hey Awesome♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    White kids spit in their parents face and call their Mohter’s *****es and *****s and ***** and you mean to tell me NONE of them have EVER gotten out of pocket with a police officer?

    SMH at some of these posters.

    ************
    I agree MIJDC 100%

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 15:59:pm

    @BE

    HEY BEAUTIFUL

    talent2

    10/13/09, 15:59:pm

    @Crystal

    HUH??

    YOU SHOWED RESPECT AND YOU GOT RESPECT, RIGHT AND YOUR POINT IS?????????

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    10/13/09, 15:59:pm

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    @miss B…Some white poeple look down on us like we are still slaves.

    —————————————————
    Thats b/c you are, Learn some history sweetie!!
    look up moorish americans and claim your soverignty

    …………………….

    Sweetie…. if your comments will be stupid, please don’t address me as i will not you!!

    ————————————————–
    Yeah your ignorants really shows. my comment wasnt stupid, I was trying to educate you. Go google Moorish Americans/ Moorish Nationality and get it together HUN!!!

    Awesome-O-3000 (D.U.K.E)

    10/13/09, 16:00:pm

    @talent2

    Exactly, if a subject will keep people talking about, watching and discussing your story, then you run it.

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:00:pm

    Hey The Truth!!!!!!!!
    :D :

    How’s the car? Did you drive over 100 yet?

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 16:01:pm

    @I’M HERE TO HELP
    “Clearly, you are not serious. I asked for reasoning. Not more self-loathing.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    Dude, you stated “deprivation” was a cause root of ills in the community but then you stated:

    “…Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.”

    That doesn’t show HOW deprivation has created the ills. Granted, you gave some symptoms but you need to clearly state HOW the deprivation leads to the ills in ways that are measurable and objective.

    You do this BEFORE commenting on possible solutions (although that shouldn’t be done in a disseration).

    I’m willing to bet you will need to start over. **depending on your university**

    Awesome-O-3000 (D.U.K.E)

    10/13/09, 16:01:pm

    Hey BE!!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:02:pm

    @olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)
    ………………….

    Dude, who the ***** are you? You are ignorant to me and you comment was stupid to me. Everything you post, I do not comment on no address anything to you HUN… Please do the same.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 16:03:pm

    @BE
    “Hey Snoop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

    MIJDC♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥”
    ________________________________________________________

    HEY BE!!

    **I knew those ***** shots would get my hearts past Snoops!!**

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:03:pm

    Its going down out in these streets. Mothers protect your babies by keeping a stern eye on them. Know where there at and who there with at all times. Yes, the task is impossible at times but do your very best. At the end of the night Pray for your family.

    ************
    Sound advice

    really as a black male I teach my son to just yes sir the cops and do what they say. At the end of the day I just pray that God keeps him safe when I’m not around you never know the ill intentions of other people

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:03:pm

    Da honest truth……Why are you scared of the BM? Have you been a victm? I’m not here to rep for the black man, that is not my job….I just don’t understandhow a successful ivy league grad in suburbia see all this you speak of??? I stayed in the hood most of my life and seen it all, but i’m far removed from it now, and only time i see it is on the news…..* shrugs*

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:04:pm

    @ BE…

    Thats all you can do… Teach, teach, teach and pray he makes the best decisions and ask for guidance in situations he does not understand.

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:04:pm

    ????**I knew those ***** shots would get my hearts past Snoops!!**

    ????

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 16:05:pm

    @DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

    “WOW SNOOPYYYYY I SWEAR U MADE ME PROUD RIGHT NOW. I LOVE THE WAY U HANDLED THAT SITUATION. INTEGRITY BABY IT DONT GET NO BETTER THAN THAT IF I WERE SINGLE RIGHT NOW U COULD DEF GET THE PANTIES! I KID I KID!! LMAO NO REALLY THAT WAS A GOOD LOOK. U COULDA WENT THE OTHER ROUTE AND TOTALLY DISREPECTED AND LET THE ***** WORD FLY BUT U DIDNT I APPLAUD
    ___________

    *taking a bow* Thank you Thank you Thank you, your far too kind…..”

    imagine being so out of control and disrespectful that you are literally positively reinforced for not doing so – like a little retarded child. while you pat yourself on the back – think about that! think about how a person could be known for being so rude and hateful and degrading to women on this board that you are actually patted on the back and offered the “panties” when you are not! i don’t know about anyone else but to this grounded intelligent sista right here thats not a good thing! the board should be shocked when a person is rude, not when their decent!

    but thats the problem with the black man now. thats why the cops shoot first! noone wants to deal with all that obnoxiousness!

    OK I THINK UR REALLY TAKING THINGS WAYYY TO FAR. FIRST OFF THE PANITES THING WAS A JOKE. SECONDLY YES I APPLAUDED HIM B/C HE COULD OF DISREPECTED U LIKE MANY OF TIMES I’VE WITNESSED MEN ON THIS BOARD CALLING OUT WOMEN CALLING THEM ALL TYPE OF NAMES I MEAN SOME DOWN RIGHT DIRTY STUFF. SO WHAT I DONT GET IT WHY U RIDING HIM SO HARD WHEN HE BOWED OUT GRACEFULLY IN MY OPINION. ALL BLACK MEN ARE NOT WHAT U GENERALLY REFERRING THEM TO BE RUDE VIOLENT AND AWFUL. U CANT CHANGE THE WORLD MA NO MATTER WHAT U CAN SCREAM PULL UR HAIR GO TO MOUNTAIN TOPS AND PREACH ***** BUT PPL WILL ONLY LOOK AT U AS IF UR CRAZY. SO U HAVE TO TAKE ***** AS THEY COME IF HE DID SOMETHING THAT DISERVED AN ACKNOWLEGEMENT THEN GIVE HIM AT LEAST THAT WITHOUT THE BACKHANDED RESPONSE.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:05:pm

    Whaddup BE…..how’s life treating you??

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 16:06:pm

    Da honest truth……Why are you scared of the BM? Have you been a victm? I’m not here to rep for the black man, that is not my job….I just don’t understandhow a successful ivy league grad in suburbia see all this you speak of??? I stayed in the hood most of my life and seen it all, but i’m far removed from it now, and only time i see it is on the news…..* shrugs*
    __________________________________________________________

    **TRANSLATION**

    *****, I think your bitter ***** still trickin in the hood and lyin bout an “ivy league education.” Just because you give head to “Mr. Ivy.”

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:07:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t care….

    I am so curious as to what you look like. If the personality matches!!

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:09:pm

    and I am just reading some of these comments,
    people quit blaming people. Folks want to say, awh, he is just 15, give me a dang break, a 15 year old today is equivalent to 21 if you ask me, its not the same day and age, they think they are grown and act like it to, they curse, drink, hangout, drive, burglarize, and do all the shyt grown ups are doing so they need to be treated like adults.

    And in reference to all the comments saying I said the boy was a thug, NO, I didnt reference him as such, I said there was a scuffle so clearly somebody didnt LISTEN when they should have, then I went on to mention BLacks need to lose this THUG mentality.

    Education is key, turn it sometimes and you can see whats on the other side of the door instead of whats in that tiny box you live in!!!!

    Black AMERICA is killing BLACK America, not the White man, not the Chinese Man, not the hispanic man, BLACK MAN!
    Black men dont speak to each other, barely help each other, always out to get the next BLACK MAN, why, because somewhere down this damn line we have lost WHO WE ARE!!!! its *****ody’s damn fault right now but ours because we are not raising our kids to have family values, to be respectful and all the other stuff. We tell our young BLACK boys, stop crying, thats for girls, men dont cry, and all this shyt, be tough, which ok but damn, we are HUMAN!

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:09:pm

    @Snoop – Whaddup BE…..how’s life treating you??

    *************
    Life’s good, busy with kids and school…mafia wars..etc..lol

    Sanjor

    10/13/09, 16:13:pm

    @DaHonest, “and i am pretty sure the majority of them will tell you they fear other black men much more than they fear white men. sad but true and not my fault!”
    ________________________________________________
    Wow!! I hope a white man never does anything to you because you will be SOL!! Yes there is a horrendous problem with black on black crime, but I’m not about to lump all of my black brothers together and throw them under the bus.

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:13:pm

    @ the honest truth…..I seen black women do most of the most scandalous ***** you could think of, but i don’t throw all them in the same hat and make a generalization. Just like you sit on hereand bash *****s, what you think you saying about their momma’s/daddies job as a parent. So the black woman is just as guilty of the crimes they children commits……

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:15:pm

    Life’s good, busy with kids and school…mafia wars..etc..lol
    _______

    people send me mafia wars invites on FB, and i just ignore that *****…..lol

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 16:16:pm

    @BE

    HEY MA NO I DID NOT PICK UP SPEEED IN THAT BABY I BEEN WATCHING IT A CO-WORKER OF MINE JUST BEAT A SPEEDING TICKET

    @MJDC BOY U R A *****ING FOOL TODAY
    IM OFFICIALLY FLATELINED CUT IT OUT BEFORE I SPANK U AND MAKE U GO SIT IN A CORNER SOMEWHERE.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 16:16:pm

    @BE
    “????**I knew those ***** shots would get my hearts past Snoops!!**

    ????
    _________________________________________________________

    Ooops. Just checked my phone, don’t know why I thought I sent that to you. My bad.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:17:pm

    @MISS B

    That has to be the dumbest comment I have ever heard,
    you fear walkin by a group of white men because you are in the south… LMAO

    Hell, I am black and I dont like to be around my own people myself because they stare you down, mean mug you, crack jokes, and other ignorant shyt. I lock my doors when I go through HOODS so to speak, I am always watching around, WHY, because I KNO my people dont really give a damn about me especially if I appear to be doing better than they are in life!

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:17:pm

    *****, I think your bitter ***** still trickin in the hood and lyin bout an “ivy league education.” Just because you give head to “Mr. Ivy.”
    ________R.I.P. SNOOP______

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 16:18:pm

    @MISS B
    “I am so curious as to what you look like. If the personality matches!!”
    ________________________________________________________

    Curiousity will get your cat killed.

    1man2people

    10/13/09, 16:20:pm

    straight BS

    snoop bloggy blog ( i'm sort of a BIG DEAL)

    10/13/09, 16:20:pm

    “I am so curious as to what you look like. If the personality matches!!”
    ________________________________________________________

    Curiousity will get your cat killed
    ____________

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…….

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:21:pm

    why?

    @MISS B

    That has to be the dumbest comment I have ever heard,
    you fear walkin by a group of white men because you are in the south… LMAO

    Hell, I am black and I dont like to be around my own people myself because they stare you down, mean mug you, crack jokes, and other ignorant shyt. I lock my doors when I go through HOODS so to speak, I am always watching around, WHY, because I KNO my people dont really give a damn about me especially if I appear to be doing better than they are in life!
    ……………………

    Are you from the South? If you aren’t than you are right it’s “dumb” to you and you have no clue what I am talking about.

    So why are you addressing that part of my comment?

    If you are from the South… Texas, ATL, LA, MS… then you would know what I am talking about.

    Do you need anymore information so now you can feel dumb?

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:22:pm

    Man, I just don’t care™

    @MISS B
    “I am so curious as to what you look like. If the personality matches!!”
    ___________________________________________________

    Curiousity will get your cat killed.
    ……………

    WOW, LOL…. I can always use a good back breaker!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 16:22:pm

    @Man, I just don’t care™

    @MISS B
    “I am so curious as to what you look like. If the personality matches!!”
    ________________________________________________________

    Curiousity will get your cat killed.

    OMG FLATELINED MJDC WHAT IS WRONG WITH U??? U GO FROM CUTTING DOWN SOMEONE’S DISSERTATION TO THUGGING IT OUT ON A CHICK TO TRYING TO GET UR ***** IN SOMETHING WET IMA SPANK THE MESS OUTTA U GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE AND STOP IT LMFBAO. IM DEAD

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:24:pm

    Curiousity will get your cat killed.

    ************
    ROFLMAO!!! you stoopid

    @The truth – I had a speeding ticket too about 2 years ago I haven’t really been speeding since..not much. those points are no joke.

    I even got my license suspended for 1 month.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:25:pm

    ***** I live in TN/MS, now what… *****ody is walking round here fearing the White man in groups

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:27:pm

    Damn, I swear some posters are in Special Ed. They take issues to the *****ing extreme.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:29:pm

    damn, i didnt realize people in special ed understood what an extreme issue was? Hmm, makes me wonder, are we wasting taxpayer dollars?
    LMFAO!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:29:pm

    @ WHY…

    “*****??”

    Sweetheart, you must be from the hood area. You don’t know me or anything about me. I see you are a internet thug.

    You address my comment as dumb yet you respond dumb. Grow up, the only “*****” on here is you. Sorry you feel so offended.

    I am from the South and I have my opinion!!

    mr. proffesional

    10/13/09, 16:31:pm

    snoop bloggy blog ( i’m sort of a BIG DEAL)

    @ the honest truth…..I seen black women do most of the most scandalous ***** you could think of, but i don’t throw all them in the same hat and make a generalization. Just like you sit on hereand bash *****s, what you think you saying about their momma’s/daddies job as a parent. So the black woman is just as guilty of the crimes they children commits……

    dude you right, was it not a black woman who microwaved her child in dc, and another black woman who sold her child for some food and crack? what a shame.

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:31:pm

    Hey This some ssshhh!!!

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:31:pm

    LMFAO@Miss B

    An internet thug, that is a new one, im loving it! LMAO

    and the correct editing would have been:
    “you addressed my comment in a dumb manner yet your response indicate you are the same. ”

    Sorry you are so uneducated and your opinion is just like azzes, everyone has one!

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    10/13/09, 16:31:pm

    Ol sweet

    WHat happened to the other picture? I liked that one

    I'm here to help....

    10/13/09, 16:32:pm

    @Man…

    Actually, the topic has been approved and the university is a 2nd tier school. However, I see your point and keep in mind gave a quick synopsis of where I started and where I want to go.

    In the actual study, deprivation is seen as the disease and the social ills are the symptoms. Some of us are able to be cured though many of us cannot be and will not be.

    Give an example: In the healthcare debate one Congressman from Florida stated that the Republican’s Healthcare plan was two fold: 1. don’t get sick and if you do, 2. die quickly.

    In the rural south, African Americans are twice as likely to die as a result of not having access to adequate healthcare. There, when you don’t have insurance, if you go to the doctor, you must pay upfront before you are seen. Studies showed that white rural south residents without healthcare could be seen on “credit.” When interviewing some residents, comments ranged from, “I don’t feel as if my life is valuable” or “I feel as if don’t exist” to “I don’t matter.”

    Now, my earlier comments stated that the deprivation causes these types of feelings. The connection can be made across the board to crime, apathy in school, as well as the black on black homicide rate in any major US city.

    Didn’t say deprivation was the only cause. Just the root.

    Leaving work….will take couple hours to respond, but I use all comments on this subject as an opportunity to further understand this phenonmenon.

    Thanks.

    mr. proffesional

    10/13/09, 16:35:pm

    Hell, I am black and I dont like to be around my own people myself because they stare you down, mean mug you, crack jokes, and other ignorant shyt. I lock my doors when I go through HOODS so to speak, I am always watching around, WHY, because I KNO my people dont really give a damn about me especially if I appear to be doing better than they are in life!

    whoever said this, is absolutely right..

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:36:pm

    @ WHY?

    Whatever, seriously!!

    It’s easy to jump stupid on the internet. I will not waste my time addressing your ignorance again. This is another reason we have so much black on black crime. People do not know what respect is. They hide behind the usage of profanity and think this is what earns them respect.

    That is fine you did not care for my comment as I didn’t for yours. Apparently whatever was said in my reply made you feel foolish so you had to respond calling me a “*****.” It shows your cl***** and how uneducated you are.

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:38:pm

    Hey JB!

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    10/13/09, 16:39:pm

    Hey Coretta!!

    LOL

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:39:pm

    What up BE????

    Girl, you better slow that thang down. Getting speeding tickets and what not.

    k

    10/13/09, 16:39:pm

    why does it even matter what race he was!!! these punk***** cops always be thinking they can do what ever the ***** they want that ***** aint right but they’ll get what they deserv

    k

    10/13/09, 16:39:pm

    why does it even matter what race he was!!! these punk***** cops always be thinking they can do what ever the ***** they want that ***** aint right but they’ll get what they deserve

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:42:pm

    Since Calling you a ***** has your panties in a wad, let me retract it, I do apologize Miss B. I do not know you from rat droppings on the street, I am so sorry to have caused you so much pain because of a blogpost. Again, I am down on bended keyboard asking for your forgiveness, in the name of typing, please forgive me—-

    Typically folks say the truth hurts so if ***** hurt you that bad, you better change yo ways

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:42:pm

    thanks for helping me get thru my day though, it really makes time fly by!

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    10/13/09, 16:43:pm

    @Jb… I change up time to time..
    That miss b is one dumb ignorant *****!!!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:44:pm

    @ WHY?

    Girl, grow up!

    No, it’s just the ignorance behind it!

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:45:pm

    Hey JB/Dorothy

    this some ssshhh – I was doing 76 in a construction zone…i was only supposed to be doing 35MPH – had to get a lawyer to plea bargain and then take a defensive driving course.

    JB(Vote for me Miss NSU 2010-2011, Lady A is my campaign manager)

    10/13/09, 16:46:pm

    Yall are still arguing over this? Folks need to go talk to the LA Sherriff. Now them *****s is crazy and get away with being crazy.

    The fwesh pwince™

    10/13/09, 16:46:pm

    “Curiousity will get your cat killed”

    comment of the day!

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:46:pm

    Put your helment on WHY, wipe your mouth, and look both ways before crossing the street. My comments weren’t address to you, but I guess Special Ed folks get real defensive.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:47:pm

    @This is some Shhhh….
    Got my helmet on, wiped my mouth, and reached out for your hand since we are in the both cl*****, I didnt want to leave you hanging….thanx friend
    LMFAO!

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:49:pm

    @ BE

    You went to court and the cl*****, and they still took points and suspended you? Here, if that was your first speeding ticket, you can attend cl*****, pay the fine and it’s removed.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:49:pm

    NOTICE: BOTH CL***** versus same Cl*****
    (I figured u would understand it better if I wrote it wrong since we are special)

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:50:pm

    why?

    @This is some Shhhh….
    Got my helmet on, wiped my mouth, and reached out for your hand since we are in the both cl*****, I didnt want to leave you hanging….thanx friend
    LMFAO!

    ______________

    Sheed, your retarded ***** is by your lonesome.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:50:pm

    If curiosity will get your cat kill,
    What will kill your dog, Knowing?

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:51:pm

    @ olsweet*****willie….

    Guess your comment makes your ***** bigger…

    Dude, you all need to grow up on this website. I thought we were having mature conversations…. Maybe this site is for people who are *****ed and need to take steam out on other people.

    And the comment you made to me, was dumb in my opinion. Thank you for not liking it. You made it known to me when you responded. The end. Just like kids to keep ***** going.

    If you don’t like my post, don’t reply. I don’t make comments towards people who enjoy to argue or try to show their *****.

    If I am a “dumb ignorant *****” stop addressing me. And I am done addressing you.

    I will ignore anymore childish comments.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:51:pm

    LMAO@This some Shhh, you kno we’z both sitz behindz each others, u slob on me, i slob on you—
    I love u friend!

    THE TRUTH _ Pretty brown eyes

    10/13/09, 16:52:pm

    @This some Shhh….

    @ BE

    You went to court and the cl*****, and they still took points and suspended you? Here, if that was your first speeding ticket, you can attend cl*****, pay the fine and it’s removed.

    mama what the hell were u doing going that fast in a contruction zone i ought to reach through this internet and spank u for that u know better.

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 16:52:pm

    @ WHY?

    Find some other nuts to swing on, these are taken.

    white male

    10/13/09, 16:52:pm

    It said they got in a scuffle with the cop. If you attack a cop they will shoot you; duh.

    why?

    10/13/09, 16:55:pm

    OTAY@This some shhh…..
    Sorry to pull ur *****
    thanx friend
    I love u

    BE

    10/13/09, 16:57:pm

    good night all

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 16:58:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t know…

    Are you on facebook?

    This some Shhh....

    10/13/09, 17:00:pm

    Bye Be.
    Later WHY?

    Lady Architect (MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY READY

    10/13/09, 17:01:pm

    It has been a long day..I need to go take out my frustrations on the volleyball court.

    why?

    10/13/09, 17:02:pm

    Bye Bye… have a great day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    one more hour to go before I can head home, whew!

    NewOrleansBaby

    10/13/09, 17:05:pm

    If the police woulda gave them dudes a chance to talk I bet he would still be living. If you a ***** they gonna treat you like you don’t have rights. Like in New Orleans, everytime they pull a black dude over between the ages of 18-27 ya getting searched, when actually you have to consent to a search or they betta have a warrant. but they don’t let you exercise your rights, it woulda been some ***** if the gun went of on him..police are always outta line..***** ‘em I dont call on them for help, I make sure I’m good. That’s why crime is never solved, a cop can’t ask me “did I see anything” it’s always going to be “NO” ***** NOPD!

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 17:07:pm

    @ NewOrleansBaby…

    New Orleans East or downtown?

    DayShifter

    10/13/09, 17:08:pm

    @HF
    Y*****abossin’ and shuckin’ and jivin’ just so a pig don’t violate my civil rights?

    BZZZT…

    Civil rights??? I’m talking about not getting a bullet in you @ss. I’ll shuck and jive if it will save my life. And allow me to get revenge legally!

    NewOrleansBaby

    10/13/09, 17:10:pm

    8th ward

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 17:11:pm

    @ NewOrleansBaby…

    Okay. I use to work downtown oil and gas. Same field, now across the causeway

    BLISS

    10/13/09, 17:13:pm

    What a shame.

    But this I know. There are good cops of all races. And there are a$$hole cops on powertrips of all races. I personally don’t like cops. And I’m white. And they have attitudes and have their self-righteous mentality with us too. So one part of me is like, jerk offs…you had to pull your gun on a 15 y/o kid? He obviously wasn’t man enough to handle the situation verbally.

    On the other hand, I know how kids are today. They are arrogant *****y *****’s, who think nothing of challenging authority and when confronted revel in the opportunity to do so, instead of humbling themselves and doing the right thing. Plus, how many times have you seen 15 y/o’s on the front page news these days up for armed robbery and murder? ALOT!!! So we see 15 y/o kid and go, awwww, poor thing…. whoa, step back.

    Hopefully this mayor meant what he said and plans to get to the bottom of the story and holds the guilty party(s) accountable accordingly.

    No matter what though, it’s a cryin shame.

    NewOrleansBaby

    10/13/09, 17:14:pm

    oh, that’s w*****up. I work off of Causeway by Lakeside.

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 17:15:pm

    @MISS B
    “Are you on facebook?”
    _________________________________________________________

    My*****e.c o m/JCSTANSB

    **EVIL LAUGH**

    NewOrleansBaby

    10/13/09, 17:19:pm

    I feel like this cop pulled that gun because they see our black youth as animals so he didn’t care when the boy probably was “mouthing off” and he decided to shot, he felt like he was above the law and better than him, and just knew he caught him in the act. i hate them

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 17:19:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t care…

    WOW…. LOL.

    I was trying to get some pics of you. I can’t even makeout your profile picture…

    Louisiana, Baton Rouge huh!!

    Man, I just don't care™

    10/13/09, 17:24:pm

    @MISS B
    “WOW…. LOL.

    I was trying to get some pics of you. I can’t even makeout your profile picture…

    Louisiana, Baton Rouge huh!!”
    ________________________________________________________________

    Yup, Louisiana, Baton Rouge.

    You couldn’t make out my picture on My*****e or on Bossip?

    Wait, never mind.

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 17:27:pm

    @ Man….

    No I could not make out your picture. I am on facebook. Name is Batini.

    I work towards Mandeville

    Miss B

    10/13/09, 17:30:pm

    @ Man…

    Anyways, bout to head home…

    I don’t have a my*****e page, just facebook. I deleted due to drama.

    Donte C. Love

    10/13/09, 17:32:pm

    @Miss B

    Hit me up on My*****e! :D

    Daywalker225xxxx

    That's Why it keeps happening

    10/13/09, 18:02:pm

    Nothing is going to happen to the officer who done it and black people ain’t gonna do nothing about it and THATS WHY IT KEEPS HAPPENING.

    Mrs. Officer

    10/13/09, 18:12:pm

    As a police officer in a major metro area I’m not going to defend the behavior of all cops. There are bad cops just like there are bad guys on the street. BUT what I will say is the most important thing that we do all day is go home to our families. Why is a cop’s life any less important than anyone on the street. Why is it OK when a “pig” gets shot and not ok for us to defend ourselves. Most cops are NOT trigger happy but the bottom line is you never know what somebody might pull out to use as a weapon against you ~ and you must always be prepared to react. Unfortunately sometimes bad situations occur. But Why is MY life NOT important?? Until you’ve been in that situation you can’t judge how you would react. No matter how much training you receive it always comes down to a split second response time. I’m not denying that there are plenty of situations of racial profiling and cops over reacting but most citizens who aren’t in the process of committing a crime never have to deal with this.

    Craig

    10/13/09, 18:26:pm

    This saddens me deeply and my thoughts and prayers are with them family. However, why has this become a racial issue? It was an accident (hopefully) but I do not think that everytime a person of African-American descent is harmed or killed by someone who is white, that the question of race is brought into the forefront. It is 2009 and we have a bi-racial president. Can’t we ever get past this issue? If a young white boy had been killed by a black police officer in this same situation, I can bet that there would not be accusations against that officer for killing the boy because he was white. Let’s all bond together and leave the race issues aside and get to the REAL issues here. Why were the boys trying to get into the windows or what the neighbor saw/heard that made them decide to call 911. Why and how did the officers gun fire? I am a former US Marine and I am aware that a gun doesn’t simply fire on its own when in the holster. If that is the case, what was the situation that made the officer need to take the gun out of his holster and take it out of safety? I’m sure none of this was because the boy was black. I sure hope not. But I think it is rather ignorant for any of us who do not know all of the facts would just *****UME that. THAT’s where the real racism comes into play. My thoughts are with the family of this young boy who was taken from them too early. God Bless.

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    10/13/09, 18:29:pm

    these net *****s in here…

    a

    10/13/09, 18:44:pm

    ATTENTION BLACK PEOPLE-

    When you cooperate with the police, YOU NEVER GET HURT!!!

    When you DO NOT COOPERATE with the police, you just might get *****ED UP!!

    “When the boys did not do as ordered by the police, a scuffle ensued”.

    This is not a conspiracy. Its common sense. The cops ask you to (pull over, put your hands up, stop running, etc.) you do it. *****ody gets hurt. If you’re innocent, they’ll sort it out, but until they do, you may just have to sit still. Asians, Whites & Latinos understand this. Ever notice how these ethnic groups rarely get *****ed up by the cops?

    It’s not because these kids were black. It’s because they didn’t do what they were asked to by the cops and got into a scuffle with them.

    I don’t feel sorry for a person who picks a fight with the police and accidentally gets shot anymore than those people who jumped in the tiger cage & got killed.

    That mom talking about ‘my boy was a good kid’… bull*****. If he was a ‘good kid’ he would have cooperated with law enforcement. What ‘good kid’ gets in a scuffle with some cops?

    It doesn’t matter that they were ‘welcome’ in the house. The neighbor reported a burglary, so the cops show up and see some dudes in the house and ask them to cooperate so they can figure out the situation. The boys don’t listen and get in a “scuffle” with the police? Are you *****ing kidding me? What the ***** do you expect will happen?

    Maybe if the black community would support cops instead of teaching the youth to distrust, despise, and not cooperate ’stop snitching’ to cops, this wouldn’t have happened because the kids would have cooperated.

    fallon

    10/13/09, 18:53:pm

    while it’s true that you should always follow what the police say and that they should have listened the first time, police aren’t notorious for picking on black males for nothing.
    no one said the boys had a weapon or a gun, all it called for was a simple tackle. killing a 15 year old boy was completely unnecessary. in this case, i’m not sure about all the details, but this is racist and sad to me.
    the boys were being hoodlums, yes, but again, it wasn’t necessary to kill him.

    4real

    10/13/09, 19:00:pm

    We want the police to stop the murders in the neighborhoods and when they try to respond and someone happens to get killed in the process because of not following the rules of the land we want to call it racism. I hate to see any kid lose their life especially at the hands of an adult but we are speaking with a double edge sword. you can’t have your cake and eat it too! Parents/adults you are going to need to spend more time with your kids installing value and teaching them the laws of the land. I’m sick of seeing black youth killing each other in the streets and dying at the hands of police. there is corruption in every aspect of life however, it is way more of black youth killing each other than at the hands of police or hate crimes.

    It’s time to face reality and look in the mirror and see who the real enemy is. It’s so much easier to blame someone else instead of taking responsiblity for your own life because that requires work.

    DeWayne Morris

    10/13/09, 19:07:pm

    Ask a Black Dude

    10/13/09, 19:09:pm

    It is easier to raise a strong child,than it is to repair a broken man…Brothas in my age group have failed at showing the life lessons to our young brothas growing up today.We never replenished the water from the well of success,to allow another generation to drink from it.Individually we as Black Men,have made it to the White House,but collectively we are still on the outside looking in.I will NEVER understand how a race of people can earn 1 trillion dollars annually,and be in such sad shape.Our brothas and sistas outside the U.S. look at us,and ask what happened to the black folk who wore Afros and Dashikis,filled with pride and love for all things Black.We Black Men have left our post as providers and leaders,but most of all,teachers of our black sons.We MUST realize brothas that if we don’t show our sons how to live,there WILL a man in uniform with a gun and a badge who will show them what death is all about.

    4real

    10/13/09, 19:21:pm

    @Ask The Black Dude
    Ditto and Amen!

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    10/13/09, 19:26:pm

    “How does a grown ***** man get into a fight with a 15 yr old??????????”

    This story is tragic, but I can’t help but note the irony of the flood of sympathy in this case when a 15-year-old girl was punched by an officer and the video was posted here last week, and, by and large, posters said she deserved it. All sorts of derogatory names were thrust upon the teenage girl. What a difference a week makes.

    I’m sorry that another young life is lost, but I can’t help but note that, once again, there are no fathers/male figures visible in the coverage I just read. We’re in a crisis.

    Sydney™ (. . .the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die)

    10/13/09, 19:31:pm

    Bob Herbert, a black columnist for the NY Times, nytimes.com, wrote a good column today about the city of Newark. He cited last week’s study on the correlation between high school dropout rates and incarceration — and I think Bossip had a thread about it — but the last half of his column struck me the most with its reference to out-of-wedlock births. The numbers are startling:

    Young female dropouts were nine times more likely to have become single mothers than young women who went on to earn college degrees, the report said, citing census data for 2006 and 2007.

    The number of unmarried young women having children has increased sharply in some communities in part, Mr. Sum said, because large numbers of young men have dropped out of school and are jobless year round. As a result, young women do not view them as having the wherewithal to support a family.

    “None of these guys can afford to own a home, they just don’t have any money,” he said. “And as a result, any time they father a child it’s out of wedlock. It wasn’t like this 30 years ago.”

    Meee

    10/13/09, 19:33:pm

    As a Black person myself, i dont think he should have been out rooaming the place at 1 P.m in the night? WHere are his parents? *****ody wants to get mad until after something bad happens, God rest this poor boys soul, But we need to take care of our kids, make them honour students and provide as much parent gaurdianship as we can, THEN when stuff happens after weve done our best, we can get mad

    Ask a Black Dude

    10/13/09, 19:36:pm

    @ Mrs.Officer what would you say to the family of the Black police officer in New York who was killed while on duty,by a White cop?So if you are doing your job and some white cop blows your head off,your family is suppose to be cool with that because they only had a split second to react.Sit down and drink a big cup of shut the ***** up.The only thing worst than a sellout,is a sellout dumb ***** cop.

    Jasmine

    10/13/09, 19:47:pm

    Meee,

    PM means afternoon IDOIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Jasmine

    10/13/09, 19:47:pm

    Idiot!!

    Jasmine

    10/13/09, 19:49:pm

    Jermaine,

    Bossip did acknowledge the death and beating of the honor student…..SO what are you talking about???

    4real

    10/13/09, 19:49:pm

    @ ask a black dude

    I was with you until your last email. I saw this story as well and the undercover cop in plain close was chasing a suspect both with guns. the clothed officer arrived on the scene and yelled to the undercover (whom he didn’t know was undercover) to stop and drop his weapon, this undercover cop keeps running after the suspect. How was the uniformed cop to know that the undercover cop was actually a cop??? Why are we so quick to make a judgement? The kid who was shot in NY while handcuff and on the ground…that was injustice! the kid who was beat to death by a mob…that was injustice!

    Ask a Black Dude

    10/13/09, 20:06:pm

    @4real The undercover cop never fired or turned his weapon on the uniformed cop,but got shoot three times c’mon man!

    Ask a Black Dude

    10/13/09, 20:08:pm

    Typo I meant to say shot.

    Talent2

    10/13/09, 20:12:pm

    @Meee

    WOW LOL this is what Meee said…

    “As a Black person myself, i dont think he should have been out rooaming the place at 1 P.m in the night? WHere are his parents?”

    Ok first P.M. is afternoon, they were let out of school early and read is mother is dead.

    And so yall know it was not one cop but two who killed this 15 year old!!

    4real

    10/13/09, 20:14:pm

    but was he ordered to drop his weapon?? I’m not making excuses for it but this is the reason why our judgements are not infident because we only know what the media says. I do believe that there is corruption in the police force but how can we pin point a few incidents and ingore the bigger picture? stop pointing out the spec and take a look at the beam! We have to look at our own being first and take responsibility for our own actions because we can’t control anyone elses action. there is probably some youth reading our comments and are ready to blame their conditions on someone else. your surroundings don’t make you, you make your surroundings!

    Indian/blackchick

    10/13/09, 20:17:pm

    Hmm.Hmmmm
    Dont make no sense. :(

    HF

    10/13/09, 20:25:pm

    DayShifter

    Civil rights??? I’m talking about not getting a bullet in you @ss. I’ll shuck and jive if it will save my life. And allow me to get revenge legally!
    _____________________________________________

    Legal revenge against 5-0? Right. I guess your legal counsel will b the easter bunny with Santa Clause presiding.

    I have been in situations with cops b4, and I have always COMPLIED despite fitting the description. At NO time have I ever tap-danced or offered 2 suck their *****s 2 keep them from shooting me.

    Not gonna happen.

    BOSSIP IS WHACK!

    10/13/09, 20:34:pm

    SMH! damn shame

    GEANQUAVIOUS

    10/13/09, 21:02:pm

    PARENTS OF ALL RACES NEED TO TEACH THEIR CHILDREN BETTER. COPS OF ALL RACES NEED TO BE TRAINED BETTER. WE NEED TO STOP MAKING EVERYTHING ABOUT RACE. IGNORANCE PLAGUES EVERY ETHNICITY IN THIS COUNTRY. WE AS AMERICANS NEED TO DO BETTER. WE NEED TO STOP KILLING EACH OTHER, STOP TAKING WHAT IS NOT OURS. THIS IS VERY SAD TO HEAR ABOUT A CHILD LOSING HIS LIFE AND A LOT OF THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION TAKING PLACE. WHILE IT IS SAD THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO REVERSE THIS HIS DEATH SHOULD NOT BE IN VAIN AND THE REST OF US WHO ARE STILL LIVING NEED TO LEARN SOMETHING FROM THIS.

    I DO NOT LIKE THE PIGS. I LOST MY TRUST IN THE POLICE AFTER A CASE I CAUGHT WHEN I WAS 16. I WAS COMPLETELY INNOCENT IN THE SITUATION, MIND YOU, AND THE ARRESTING OFFICER PLAYED “THE COOL COP” WITH ME AND I OPENED UP TO HIM ABOUT THE INCIDENT. COME TO FIND IN THE POLICE REPORT HE USED EVERYTHING I SAID OUT OF CONTEXT AND TWISTED MY WORDS COMPLETELY. DESPITE THE ANGER THAT COMES OVER ME WHENEVER I INTERACT WITH A COP I KNOW THAT IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO COOPERATE. I DON’T MEAN TELL HIM EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND THEN SUCK HIS *****. NO, NEVER THAT. DON’T SAY ***** UNTIL YOU’VE SPOKEN WITH A LAWYER OR PUBLIC DEFENDER!! BUT DO COOPERATE!! DON’T PULL OUT A WEAPON, DON’T TRY TO RUN, DON’T TRY TO RESIST. IT SUCKS TO HAVE TO SWALLOW YOUR PRIDE LIKE THAT, BUT IN THE END IT WILL BE BETTER FOR YOU.

    clay

    10/13/09, 21:03:pm

    A black child was murdered by a cop, all of these uncle Tom’s want to blame the kid. Cop tells a lie and said the gun went off accidentally, BULL S!@#!!! When are we going to wake up!!! Blacks are hated by everyone, mainly African Americans. Reading some of these comments, we also hate ourselves. WE need to change this and real soon!!! Hannibal, come out of hiding, so that you can be dealt with accordingly, and Sev, whatever your name is you should do the same thing cause their are a lot of brother’s that would like too see you on some real street sh!@, including my self!

    chloe

    10/13/09, 21:30:pm

    @talent2
    Police officers can be victims too, Cops are shot evryday in this country, where is your outrage in that?

    4real

    10/13/09, 21:39:pm

    Biggie said it best, “in order to change the world you have to change yourselves. The blame game has got to stop!!!

    MS504QUEEN

    10/13/09, 22:33:pm

    HOW SAD! AND WE ARE PAYING FOR THEM TO HAVE TASERS B/C??? ALL I EVER READ ABOUT IS ELDERLY PEOPLE AND PREGNANT WOMEN BEING TAZED! IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEST THING BUT WHEN THEY SHOULD USE THEM THEY DONT AND WHEN THEY SHOULDNT THEY WILL! HE WOULD STILL B ALIVE TODAY AT LEAST. ALSO I WISH THEY WOULD STOP USING THE SORRY EXCUSE THAT THE GUN JUS WENT OFF GUNS DONT JUS GO OFF STUPID PEOPLE WITH GUNS MAKE THEM! SMH ANOTHER YOUNG BLACK MAN DEPRIVED OF HIS LIFE MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE FAMILY.

    G Raw

    10/13/09, 22:40:pm

    Shay

    10/13/09, 23:15:pm

    I generally don’t like the police. I’ve never broken a law but I’ve seen enough dirty cop situations with my own eyes to know that I should stay away from them. I’ve met good cops in my time but I’ve been treated differently by the same cop based on what I had on that day.

    That being said, people need to teach their kids not to fight the police. It’s not about blaming the kid. It’s about staying alive another day. Do what the cop tells you, and explain your situation, and keep a cool head. There’s two sides to every story and I’d like to hear from whomever called the police because I’m sure that Nosey Nancy was watching when he got shot.

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 23:18:pm

    @ talent2

    And I get what your saying but answer this how am I going to better myself I go to school do the best I can but when I go for the job, a less experience white person gets it, my family not rich I cant start my own business, so one has to give me a break, let me ask you what do you do for a living??
    __________________________________________________

    I am part owner of a Neighborhood bar and i run a personal security company that staffs bars and night clubs with security people. I spent 8 years in the Marine Corps and did 4 years of college when i got out. You have to set a goal for yourself and be single minded about achieving it. It takes hard work and SACRIFICE! You have to be able to go without certain things in order to achieve your goal. that is the part most folks don’t seem to get or be willing to do. If it means giving up going and out and partying for 6 months to a year in order to save some money,then DO IT! SACRIFICE is the first step in achieving your goals. Learn to do without that which will only give you short term pleasure in order to attain your long term goals. That is the best advice i can give to you or any other young person out here who is trying to make it. Good luck to you in whatever field you choose to pursue.

    Wreckless Driver

    10/13/09, 23:40:pm

    I’m here to help….

    @Wreckless Driver

    You are 1000% on the money. I want to also introduce my new theory on what I have studied, *****yzed and now will be writing a dissertation on the on going struggles in the African American Community as it relates to all of these negative ills.

    The cause is “Deprivation.”

    When one is deprived, one’s access is restricted. This lack of access can manifest itself in the form of inadequate schools, housing, economic opportunity, the political process and ultimately the American Dream.

    So then this deprivation causes one to begin to emmulate the access of information available; which causes a plethora of community and society ills: The misogyny, the self loathing, embracing mediocrity and ultimately becoming victim to society’s social heirarchy of relevance. These are all symptoms of the deprivation.

    Because there are some of us who can overcome the deprivation, we must study the time line of success and recreate it for later application.

    I’ve given a scant accounting of where Im trying to go. Would love to hear your opinion “Wreckless” on what you think.

    ***Keep in mind that sometimes deprivation can be internal as well as external. Be as critical as possible. Not looking for you to agree but to give your honest thought on this.
    __________________________________________________
    I agree with your synopsis somewhat. I also am a firm believer in the theory that “if one can diagnose an illness then one can cure it” we all can sit back and trace the origins of what it is that ails us as a people. We have many great minds who to this day continue to use it as consistent talking points. Where i am is at the stage of CURING the sickness which much like religion can be debated but in the end all leads to the same source. No matter how it is you’ve come to believe that we ended up in the fix that we find ourselves in,the important thing is solving the problems. We can all agree that we are suffering from a great affliction,what we need to do now is come up with an aggressive form a treatment before the ailment kills us. Those of us who acknowledge the sickness are at a far greater advantage than those of us who are in denial.

    mekamac

    10/13/09, 23:57:pm

    ANOTHER REASON TO OFF THE KKKRACKERS!!!!!!!!!! HELL NAW I AINT SUGARCOATING *****

    Marquis de Sade

    10/14/09, 01:24:am

    Sydney

    “This story is tragic, but I can’t help but note the irony of the flood of sympathy in this case when a 15-year-old girl was punched by an officer and the video was posted here last week, and, by and large, posters said she deserved it. All sorts of derogatory names were thrust upon the teenage girl. What a difference a week makes.”

    LOL! Touche.

    Natasha

    10/14/09, 02:02:am

    This is why people need to train their kids to listen to authority. Had they just said yes sir/no sir to the cops they would’ve been fine, but they wanted to be smart & not listen since they go to that house all of the time. Regardless if Cops treat black males worse than white males..***** hasn’t changed. If you know theyre going to treat you worse as a black man, why in the hell are you going to give them even more of a reason to treat you like *****?

    This seems like another case in which some person thought they were above the law. Its sad its just a 15 yr old boy & hopefully it “REALLY” was an accident.

    YOUNG'N

    10/14/09, 02:59:am

    YOU COULD BE A MODEL CITIZEN AND JUST SO HAPPEN TO FIT THE DISRIPTION AND GET WASTED BY A COP…OR RUN ACROSS THAT *****HOLE COP THAT WANTS TO SHOW YOU WHO’S IN CHARGE AND GOES APE ***** ON YOU AT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF YOU NOT FEELING HIS *****..SO IF YOU COMPLY, TRY TO FIGHT LEGALLY, OR BUCK THE SYSTEM IT WOULDNT MATTER…THATS WHY *****S HOLD COURT IN THE STREETS

    Mrs. Officer

    10/14/09, 08:38:am

    @ Ask a Black dude
    I won’t even respond to your comments about me being a sell out dumb ***** cop. There is no need to further ignorance and hate.
    I NEVER said that it was OK, but the fact of the matter is this is how it is!! Right or wrong, like it or not. Until you’ve received any sort of police training then you will NOT know. Until we all receive an implant in our heads that lets us know who the bad guy is without question then human error will always always occur. I know this is not what people want to hear but this is the simple truth. Again I am NOT defending all cops.

    Life Experience

    10/14/09, 09:26:am

    @Everyone else blaming the kid for what happened

    How are you going to automatically believe the word of the police but discount the information provided by the owner of the house? Or maybe you just read the article too fast. Either way it is laughable that you are so quick to talk bad about african american CHILDREN when we all know if this was a 15 year old white kid he would never have been shot. And that is NOT because he would have cooperated. I’ve seen the videos. White teenagers talk back to the cops too but you never see the news reporting about any of them being killed by cops. Teenagers are immature and rebellious by nature. Even with home training they are not going to respond well to being treated like a criminal when they believe that they have done nothing wrong. Your are expecting more control and level headedness than alot of adults exhibit.(black or white/ I’ve watched COPS) Everyone talking negatively needs to ask themselves if they would say the same things if it was a white, asian, or hispanic teenager. And be real. Too many jump on the black bashing bandwagon. Can you truly expect black teenagers to respect the police when they have seen how the black adults in their life are treated by the police? Moms, dads, aunts, and uncles being racially profiled, har*****ed, and beaten. Remember it was not so long ago that it was legal for the police to do the things they get in trouble for doing today. I know some of your are always sick of hearing about the african american plight. Well if any of you have parents that were beaten, framed or had false confessions beat out of them, or any family members constantly har*****ed by police just for being who they are and living where they live then cool. I will give you a p*****. Everyone else needs to look at things from the view of the downtrodden. It is human nature to imagine being in a better situation. It gives us hope. But it is difficult to imagine things being worse because if causes despair. That means if your are in a good situation it takes real effort to put yourself in place of someone worse off than you. Life is not fair. Someone always has it worse. Stop comparing the bad in your life with the bad in someone elses. It will never be the same. Plus most of YOU don’t even trust the police. Even if you’re not black. The simple fact is we need to police the police. That’s why I cannot wait until every city makes the portable camera and mic setup mandatory. It works to catch crooked cops who pull people over under false pretense. It definitely has worked for the cops that have to wear them already. That way the cop is on his or her best behavior at all times and the individual they are dealing with knows that their actions are being recorded as well. We do not need to wait for new policies and legislation. We have the technology to hold everyone accountable for their actions so tragedies like this will not happen. Everyone child has the right to live. This child died and he did not even hurt anybody! Since when has the thought of a child dying for harming noone become acceptable? I guess it’s not. Unless the child is black. And other races wonder why we are angry!

    UofI student

    10/14/09, 10:57:am

    First of all, I live out there because I go to UofI. What people fail to realize because they are SO problack and feel if its a white cop its some type of racist outcome, a NEIGHBOR called the police. If someone saw ANYbody appearing to enter my home without a key..CALL THE *****IN POLICE!!! thats what you normally would do! U cant fault the police, look at the fact…police were called in for an alleged home invasion…they did not know if these teens were armed or better yet how the hell were they suppose to know the teen lived there?? the officers were just doing there job…leave it up to the typical hoodlum…which he was, to wrestle with an officer rather then, obeying the commands so that the police could know the situation. Black people make me sick always blaming the white man for EVRY little thing that goes wrong with them. The area is a known drug and gang area, hell if i was called in i would have my gun drawn out too and im black!

    shoew*****sneedluv2

    10/14/09, 11:08:am

    I really have to stop reading the comments on here… the level of ignorance confounds and amazes me… The police mistreat these young black men because they know that they can…. and then you sit up here like trained monkeys and acquiesce. If you are lawfully in your residence then the police can not enter without a warrant unlees they can prove exigent cir*****stances… secondly you have the right to resist an unlawful arrest.. the law is supposed to be colorblind… but I guess as long as you keep shuffling and answering to m*****a we’ll never achieve equality in this country.. you idiots blaming 2 unarmed children … when we should expect BETTER from the police considering we pay their damn salaries

    Wreckless Driver

    10/14/09, 11:33:am

    @ YOUNG’N

    YOU COULD BE A MODEL CITIZEN AND JUST SO HAPPEN TO FIT THE DISRIPTION AND GET WASTED BY A COP…OR RUN ACROSS THAT *****HOLE COP THAT WANTS TO SHOW YOU WHO’S IN CHARGE AND GOES APE ***** ON YOU AT THE SLIGHTEST HINT OF YOU NOT FEELING HIS *****..SO IF YOU COMPLY, TRY TO FIGHT LEGALLY, OR BUCK THE SYSTEM IT WOULDNT MATTER…THATS WHY *****S HOLD COURT IN THE STREETS

    __________________________________________________

    And how is that working out for you?

    MochaDreams

    10/14/09, 11:33:am

    I’ll be the first one to get on the Po’s for their BS, but the way the story read, you can’t tell whether the officer pulled his gun out and fired purposely or if it went off accidentally. The cops probably over reacted, and the boys should have just responded to what they asked, but the shooting may have been an accident. However, the family should request an additional autopsy to confirm one way or the other, because who knows if they will try to falsify results.

    Young men, I know they har***** you and make you angry, but PLEASE, just do what they tell you to do… get badge numbers and have them held accountable later.

    excessive force !!!

    10/14/09, 12:34:pm

    @ UofI student
    “typical hoodlum”? UofI student you dont even now the dude so stop it!
    first of all thats not a drug and gang area(fact)I live 2 streets over. This happend 1 street over from judah christian school. (talk what you know)

    Point of the matter is the officer didnt have to shoot the kid in the chest. Champaign police purchased taser about 2-3 years ago, they also have pepper spray and batons. (shooting should have ben the last thing) Some of these police in champaign are unprofessional, they abuse they authority and use excessive force.(because they now they can get away with it) At the end of the day the boy lost his life & that could have ben avoided!!!!!
    kiwane was unarmed, so ***** what you talking about and what you going threw!! RIP-kiwane

    excessive force !!!

    10/14/09, 12:46:pm

    Tell me how do you accidentally pull your gun out, accidentally take it off safety, and accidently blast someone in the chest?
    This is the same officer that was involved in the death of another man a few years ago. the officer name is Daniel norbits.
    accident my *****!

    excessive force !!!

    10/14/09, 12:47:pm

    Identity of officer in Champaign teen shooting released
    By Tim Mitchell
    Wednesday, October 14, 2009 8:16 AM CDT
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    CHAMPAIGN – Police have identified the police officer involved in the incident in which a 15-year-old boy was fatally wounded on Friday.

    And this isn’t the first time the officer was involved in an incident that resulted in a death.

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    Champaign Deputy Police Chief Holly Nearing said in a written release that Daniel Norbits was the officer who responded to a report of a burglary in progress at 906 W. Vine St., C., at 1:20 p.m. Friday, along with Police Chief R.T. Finney. A neighbor called police, reporting at least two youths were trying to get into a house through doors and windows.

    The city’s release on Tuesday said Finney was first to arrive, with Norbits arriving soon after.

    Finney and Norbits “confronted two subjects at the house, and during a physical confrontation, an officer-involved shooting occurred,” the city news release said.

    Deputy Chief Troy Daniels said on Friday that the weapon involved was not Finney’s.

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    Champaign County Coroner Duane Northrup said Kiwane Carrington, 15, of the 1400 block of North Champaign Street, died of a single gunshot wound to the chest.

    Norbits, a 14-year veteran of the Champaign Police Department who received commendations from the department at least three times (2002, 2004 and 2006), has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation by the Multi-jurisdictional Investigative Team led by the state police and an internal investigation by the Champaign Police Department.

    Nine years ago, Norbits was one of the officers in a struggle between police and Champaign resident Gregory Brown, resulting in Mr. Brown’s death.

    The investigative team also includes representatives from the Urbana, UI and Rantoul police and the Champaign County sheriff’s office.

    Nearing said the police department declined to release Norbits’ name before Tuesday “to protect the integrity of the investigation being conducted by the Multi-jurisdictional Investigative Team.”

    “We needed to allow the team to be able to conduct its investigation without a lot of public scrutiny of the officer,” Daniels said. “We needed to have time to have access to the officer and make sure he could concentrate on *****isting us.”

    Sgt. Bill Emery of the state police wouldn’t say how the gun was discharged.

    “There won’t be any information given out about what happened until the investigation is complete,” Emery said. “We anti*****te the state’s attorney will give a statement about what happened after we give our report to the state’s attorney.”

    Daniels estimated on Monday it would take the investigative team 30 days to prepare its report.

    “It may seem like it takes a long time to finish this, but we have to get the information correct before we present it the public. I know the public is looking for something more, but until we have all the facts, we aren’t giving out any information,” Emery said.

    Norbits was involved in a struggle between police and Mr. Brown, 45, in the area of Clark and Prairie streets on Oct. 8, 2000, that resulted in Mr. Brown’s death.

    According to a police report, Norbits ordered Mr. Brown to lie on the ground and drew his expandable baton. When Brown attempted to resist, Norbits struck Mr. Brown on the back of his thighs.

    “I was trying to get him to lie down onto his stomach, and he would not do so. I took the – my baton expanded and just put it up against his back, trying to push him down to the ground,” Norbits said in a Serious Use of Force Task Force report obtained by The News-Gazette in 2001 under the Illinois Freedom of Information Act.

    The report said Norbits tried to push Mr. Brown down with his foot in the center of the back.

    “That had zero effect,” Norbits said. “The subject again started to get up. I hit him, and we – he was flailing his arms as he was starting to get up. I didn’t want the officers to get struck. I struck the upper portions of his – upper portions of his arm on the outside, both arms, at some point during the struggle.”

    Up to 14 patrol officers came to the scene before Mr. Brown was subdued and handcuffed. Shortly thereafter, he appeared to stop breathing and died.

    Later, the Champaign City Council approved spending $110,000 to avoid a trial in a wrongful-death case concerning Mr. Brown’s death.

    Including an additional $75,000 paid by the city’s insurance company, the Brown family received a total settlement of $185,000.

    Meanwhile, Mayor Jerry Schweighart said in a separate news release that he was asking the community for patience as the investigation continues.

    “When the facts are in, the city plans to be fully open and transparent about what happened,” Schweighart said in the release. “The investigation could take several weeks to work through. The city is asking the community to be patient until the facts can be released.”

    Nearing said the investigative team did not confirm Mr. Carrington’s identity until about 4 p.m. Friday. She said his family was notified at 4:30 p.m. Friday at the police department.

    Nearing said the family was not able to view Mr. Carrington’s body until after the autopsy on Saturday so evidence could be collected at the autopsy by investigators.

    Following the autopsy in Bloomington, Northrup drove Mr. Carrington’s body to the funeral home at about 9 p.m. Saturday, Nearing said.

    Daniels said police were working with the owner of the home at 906 W. Vine St. to repair a door that had been damaged during the incident.

    News-Gazette staff writer Steve Bauer contributed to this repo

    excessive force !!!

    10/14/09, 14:35:pm

    Home renter: 15-year-old who was shot lived there
    By Paul Wood
    Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:18 AM CDT
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    CHAMPAIGN – Kiwane Carrington ate breakfast in the house where he was shot hours later after a neighbor reported a possible burglary.

    At 8:30 a.m. Friday, Debra Thomas, who lives at 906 W. Vine St., found the young man making breakfast. By 1:30 p.m., he and his friends had been let out of Champaign’s alternative READY School and gone to the house to get out of the rain. Within minutes, he was shot in a scuffle with two police officers. Less than an hour later, he was *****ounced dead.

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    Thomas said the 15-year-old boy had lived in the house all summer long and was “like a son.”

    Mr. Carrington died after being shot during a scuffle with police Chief R.T. Finney and another officer about 1:30 p.m. Friday at 906 W. Vine St. Another boy in the scuffle, also 15, remains in police custody on a burglary change. His name has not been released by the police or the family.

    On Monday, Thomas pointed out the spot where the scuffle took place. A few feet away was a plywood-covered back-door opening. The damage was done by Champaign police, not burglars, Thomas said. She said the boys were confronted by police in the backyard, before they could enter the house.

    Thomas said a neighbor told her the police had used a battering ram on the back door. When she returned from a Parkland College cl***** later that day, she said, Illinois State Police investigators said the damage had been done by Champaign police.

    renter Debra Thomas said Champaign police told her that Kiwane Carrington and the juvenile taken into custody were trying to pry this window off the west side of her house to gain entry while she was away. By John Dixon
    Champaign police Deputy Chief Troy Daniels did not return calls about the damage, and Champaign County State’s Attorney Julia Reitz said she would not comment about any aspect of the investigation.

    In the attic, two doors to unused storage *****es were also broken in by police, Thomas added.

    “They pretty much ransacked the house,” said Thomas, whose family had to vacate the home for two days during the investigation while the front door was sealed.

    The house’s owner, Bill Sanderson of Champaign, said the city would probably reimburse him for the damage, and he has not filed an insurance claim. He said repairs would cost at least $600.

    “I’m going to get it done (before reimbursement) because it’s a safety issue for the occupant,” Sanderson said.

    At a press conference Monday at the Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center, Thomas said the teen was a good boy and was welcome at her home.

    A 911 caller had said the two boys were trying to get into the house through doors and windows, and officers responded.

    Thomas said Mr. Carrington, her son’s friend, did not have a key to the house. Nor do her four children. On Monday, the house was full of friends and family, and Thomas said that was usually the case. The living room has a large-screen TV and video games the boy liked to play, she said.

    same ol sh--

    10/14/09, 16:54:pm

    oh here we go again! cops pikcin on innocent “black” “kids” church going law abiding citizens~ right, they were caught breaking in and were resisting arrest!!!!!!!! bossip is racist

    Calls Champaign Home

    10/14/09, 21:06:pm

    Thank you excessive force for sharing the articles. This is very unfortunate and my prayers are w/ Kiwane’s family and friends. So often we are quick to judge and offer an opinion before we get the whole story. I was born and raised in Champaign and I know this is nothing new for anyone in the community – regardless to what some said. At the end of the day this really has nothing to do with race but more of abuse of the badge. It happens all the time. Don’t get me wrong there are some decent officers there, but they go overlooked. There were some very strong comments made on here and I will not comment on those because everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I ask all of you that have made a comment to not judge until all the facts are out. This young man – regardless of what anyone thought he was doing – did not deserve to lose his life. I pray that none of you have to experience any of this in your own family.

    10.14 – Around the Way « A Day & A Dream

    10/14/09, 21:49:pm

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    Shay

    10/14/09, 23:45:pm

    shoew*****sneedluv2

    I really have to stop reading the comments on here… the level of ignorance confounds and amazes me… The police mistreat these young black men because they know that they can…. and then you sit up here like trained monkeys and acquiesce. If you are lawfully in your residence then the police can not enter without a warrant unlees they can prove exigent cir*****stances… secondly you have the right to resist an unlawful arrest.. the law is supposed to be colorblind…

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    @shoew*****sneedluv2

    Is this about keeping your life or fighting the police and dying and then trying to figure out who was right or wrong? I think most people are saying that we have to do what will keep us safe. Sure the family might get paid if the cops are found to be wrong but that child is still dead.

    “secondly you have the right to resist an unlawful arrest”

    That depends on your State’s laws. Some states have laws that you can be arrested for running from the police even if you didn’t commit a crime. Your misinformation can get someone hurt.

    If the state does allow someone to resist an unlawful arrest, there are still several limits on what can be done:

    A person can only use the amount of force that is reasonably necessary. Some states have limited this even further by refusing to allow any force against police officers performing their authorized duties, regardless of whether the arrest is legal.

    Some states also have exceptions for good faith arrests, where an arrest by a police officer acting in good faith cannot be resisted.

    A person cannot resist arrest because he believes the law under which he is being arrested is unconstitutional.

    81rob81

    10/15/09, 01:35:am

    Get the ***** outta here with that bs. Parents always come and fly to the defense of their child once they get into these situations instead of being a parent in the first place and preventing their sons from making bad choices. Where were you, mom, when your 15 year old needed attention? Where were you when he needed moral guidance and support?

    Also, it is no secret that our black youth are getting out of hand. Look at the boy in Chicago that got beat to death by a crowd of teens? Where the ***** are their parents? There was a 15 year old, baby faced boy that shot an officer in St Louis, MO 2 years ago. Where were his parents then and why was he out roaming the streets at 2 am in the morning when the incident occured?

    In this case, we don’t know all of the facts. Is it possible that the police had their guns drawn due to the boys committing the felony of a burglary? Is it possible that the boy began fighting with the police officer while the gun was in the officer’s hands? People need to be parents to their children and maybe this ***** wouldn’t happen in the first place!

    81rob81

    10/15/09, 01:36:am

    Get the ***** outta here with that bs. Parents always come and fly to the defense of their child once they get into these situations instead of being a parent in the first place and preventing their sons from making bad choices. Where were you, mom, when your 15 year old needed attention? Where were you when he needed moral guidance and support?

    Also, it is no secret that our black youth are getting out of hand. Look at the boy in Chicago that got beat to death by a crowd of teens? Where the ***** are their parents? There was a 15 year old, baby faced boy that shot an officer in St Louis, MO 2 years ago. Where were his parents then and why was he out roaming the streets at 2 am in the morning when the incident occured?

    In this case, we don’t know all of the facts. Is it possible that the police had their guns drawn due to the boys commiting the felony of a burglary? Is it possible that the boy began fighting with the police officer while the gun was in the officer’s hands? People need to be parents to their children and maybe this ***** wouldn’t happen in the first place!

    4real

    10/15/09, 19:20:pm

    stop the damn blame game and change!!! I’m sick of hearing the *****! No response when it’s black on black crime. where is the outcry then? sick of hearing it.

    UofI student

    10/16/09, 14:14:pm

    @ excessive force !!!
    Yea I know the area too, and I know the area HE lived in….You also failed to mention he was kicked out of school for fighting, thats y he was at the alternative schoool in the terminal BARELY going and p*****ing that! He sold drugs and used drugs, rand with gang members…so like i said TYPICAL HOODLUM…next!

    UofI student

    10/16/09, 14:21:pm

    @4real! i agree

    Im tired of hearing black people rants and raves when its something involving black vs. white…its ALWAYS the officer or the “white mans” fault….yall need to stop blaming them for ALL your problems! Everytime soom hood nigge get popt off all the black filks come runni like “oh he was a good boy” “he would never hurt anybody” I dont know y this happened”…knowing damn well the lil *****s barely went to h.s..IF they even made it that far, stood on the block slanging, ran with known gangs and *****, fighting, etc…..then when they live by the sword and die by the sword THEY are the innocent ones and the “white man” is the one to blame…now i can c if they randomly saw the boy on the street just hangin out, then he somehow shot him then i would be like WTF?…BUT since SOME ONE..ANOTHER BLACK PERSON called in reported what appeared to be a robbery, and im sure the boy started talking at the mouth and trying to show out and resist arrest, then there u go. and of course 9/10 there will be a white officer to respond…look at the town!!!…better yet look at the race population of those who become cops in this town! geez….

    Ms.D Nice

    10/16/09, 23:34:pm

    Listen I too am familiar with the area and what I am so puzzled about is way now do we want to have a march for what is going on? Did we have a march when the “black man” shot three of the Champagin officers two years ago did we not see anything wrong with that? I just feel we are going about this all the wrong way!!! Now is the time for us to talk to our children and educate them on what it is we should and shouldn’t do!! Now I’m not p*****ing any judgment on this situation but beings that my husband too is an officer and I know that there are two side to all stories so we should just wait and see how things unfold before we speak on t!!!

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