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spike always been bitter….

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Spike does have a point…

MAYBE A LIL BUT IT AINT THAT SERIOUS IT JUS COMEDY AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE CANT ACT LIKE EVERY1 DOESNT HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS LIKE TYLER PERRY’S CHARACTERS. SPIKE SOUNDING A LIL UPPITY, JUS A LIL!

Both of his tv shows are horrible, they are not funny at all.

SPIKE LEE NEEDS TO SHUT HIS MOUTH!!!

hello

Sorry Mr. Perry but we’ve moved beyond characters like Madea and Brown. We don’t need bait to catch your point.If you haven’t heard, African-Americans are smart enough to be presidents now.

He said “Speaking to them, speaking to us.” To establish that Madea and his other characters are true reflections of real people. Are they? I think there are some out there that may relate to Madea but she is not an actual representation on all Black American women nor are his other characters. Maybe Spike Lee would be more respectful of Tyler Perry’s work if he had other Characters that did not seem like decendants of the “Good Times” family.

Spike is just jealous. Tyler Perry knows what he is doing. He knows a ministry opportunity and he is brilliant on how he does it. Its Tyler’s time and no one can stop him. This is God’s work. Spike, you had your time. This man is creating opportunity for many people. There is alot about Tyler Perry that people dont even realize. Spike, SHUT UP and COMB YOUR HAIR

There’s no diversity concerning black people in the media. Everyone under 50 is a loud, ignorant illiterate hip-hiop thug or hoodrat. Everyone over 50 is a loud, illiterate, overweight step n’ fetch type. Never well spoken complex beings with everyday interests and outlooks.

And NO I don’t have a single Madea type in my family. I’m sick of black people repeating this bs. Speak for yourself and the circle(s) you travel in.

I grew up with a Madera someone who loved you right or wrong. Someone who took the time to care there was once a time the whole street you lived on had them and they looked out for everyone. Gave a meal those who was hungry. Shelter as well. Tyler is just showing how it was when we grew up . The whole family has changed and the person next door does not even know your name. So just think don’t we all miss the madera of our day. I am 37.

Have to agree with Spike, and not to mention that the sitcoms are not the least bit funny…

And he is Gay… He plays the Madea character so that he can have a reason to dress in drag….

wow, didn’t know that there were so many people in the world who dislikes a man who tries makes you laugh

Spike is just jeaulous!! none of his stupig films have ever sold like Tyler Perry’s… HATER, HATER

typo, STUPID

LOL I agree with spike!!!

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Spike DOES have a point. The real issue though, really, is why haven’t we as a people DEMANDED and PRODUCED more films of substance? Why is Madea acceptable just because it’s funny?

Unfortunately, his comment will do nothing but come across as ‘hating’ and not inspire change. He should take his comments to the up and coming black film makers who can REALLY do something about it…..

I agree with Spike. It seems like Tyler Perry is a racist and he hates black people himslef… especially black women.

Spike is only upset because Hollywood want finance his films…Even private donors want fund his events……So what does that tell you? Spike is on the side of the road…TP shouldn’t be upset because he is speeding right past him.

I agree with Spike.

black people never want to see other black people be successful. when was the last time Spike Lee was relevant anyway?

don’t pay that has been any mind, Tyler. nobody else is.

@toonmili “I agree with Spike. It seems like Tyler Perry is a racist and he hates black people himslef… especially black women.”

Does that make ANY sense to you? Please explain it to me cos I’m having trouble understanding.

Oct 25, 2009 – 10:57 am Ummmmmm….

Spike DOES have a point. The real issue though, really, is why haven’t we as a people DEMANDED and PRODUCED more films of substance? Why is Madea acceptable just because it’s funny?

Unfortunately, his comment will do nothing but come across as ‘hating’ and not inspire change. He should take his comments to the up and coming black film makers who can REALLY do something about it…..

Do you see the caliber of most of the comments posted here? Does this populace DESERVE any better? If better was handed to them they wouldn’t know what to do with it.

Uhhh, say what you will about Tyler Perry, but at the end of the day, he has hired more struggling black actors and actresses + C, D, & Z level actors and actresses than Spike has. I’m not huge fan of Tyler’s brand of entertainment, but from a “CAPITALIST” point of view, his product is very profitable, and has afforded him the option to greenlight his own projects, build his own production studio and hire minority writers, cameramen, etc, etc, etc…After over 20 years in the business, can Spike say the same thing? There’s room for all forms and taste of entertainment for everyone’s palate. Tyler has found his “NICHE”, and it just so happens, Spike Lee hasn’t.

@Zaaquir

at what cost are these actors and actresses working? Solely for their monetary gain? or for the aiding of destruction of the image and perception of the black culture.

@Zaaquir,

You do know that Oprah is one of Tyler’s biggest backers and supporters right? Please you sound like “the hit dog”.

Seriously

There’s no diversity concerning black people in the media. Everyone under 50 is a loud, ignorant illiterate hip-hiop thug or hoodrat. Everyone over 50 is a loud, illiterate, overweight step n’ fetch type. Never well spoken complex beings with everyday interests and outlooks.

And NO I don’t have a single Madea type in my family. I’m sick of black people repeating this bs. Speak for yourself and the circle(s) you travel in.
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[Applauding]

Thank you, Spike. I can always count on him to say what most intelligent people are thinking.

WE HAVE GUTTER TRASH WHITE PEOPLE TOO, BUT GUESS WHAT YOU DON’T SEE THEM ON TV, AM I RIGHT!

Its comedy and always has a message.
Love Love Love Perry’s and his movis. T.P please dont stop doing you.

LOL @ Candy Cane -po dumb southern negro! Hilarious! I totally agree w/ your point too.

i think spike lee can be a lil too intense sometimes but i definitely agree with him on this! tyler perry feeds into all the typical black stereotypes -uneducated, loud,starting fights, etc. i think it’s irresponsible of him. it surprises me that this hasn’t come up before.

vallery

WE HAVE GUTTER TRASH WHITE PEOPLE TOO, BUT GUESS WHAT YOU DON’T SEE THEM ON TV, AM I RIGHT!
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Not only that, muthas got direct tv channels FULL of alternate images 2 choose from.

Oh, u don’t like wife-beating, Bucktoothed Billy-Bob being confronted in his trailer on Cops? Change the channel… Jack Bauer will save the world in 24 hours.

What we got? The 10 O’ Clock News, Tyler Perry AND Cops!

“Disarming.”

Stepin Fetchit and Rochester were “disarming” 2.

SMH.

Well, I have to admit that I see plenty of Madea’s around the neighbor, but the Brown character is so over the top that it is not even believable. Even though there are indeed some Madeas out there, TP needs to move on and find other interesting characters, because Madea has been done to death.

*Isn’t BOX OFFICE* sorry, typo

Boy, boy, boy .. Can’t win for losing AND you damn sure can’t please everybody!
I’m a big fan of Tyler Perry and his material. His personal story is amazing, he’s come a long way ..
Keep doing your thing, Brother!

da hell? them two was sitting rightnext to each other at mj’s funeral. i would know, i was right behind kobe. wtf? spike just mad cuz he short, tyler just mad cuz um…he tall? smh can’t we fight about something else like kobe vs shaq?

Hey Txhustla!

I don’t know. . .I loved both The Cosby Show and A Different World. Cliff and Claire were the perfect couple.

Did you see “Miracle at St. Anna,” Txhustla? I loved the film, and I would love to do more research into the history of the Buffalo Soldiers.

Spike Lee’s comment reminds me of Jessie Jackson’s comment when Obama became President. Spike is a HATER .. Spike if you want better do it yourself! MINUS Racism! Don’t put this man down for making his bread.

Miracle at St. Anna was brilliant.

YNV Me

….do what u do Tyler because the majority loves it!!
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Exactly… the “MAJORITY” loves it.

SMH.

Dave Chapelle was on Oprah and he pointed out that Hollywood puts the majority of black actors in dresses to dehumanize and emasculate them.

They insisted that he do it and he refused -
think about it?

Spike Lee needs to stop.

“Dave Chapelle was on Oprah and he pointed out that Hollywood puts the majority of black actors in dresses to dehumanize and emasculate them.”

That’s not surprising — If a black man is dehumanized and emasculated, he’s less “threatening.” This is a pattern that has been repeated throughout history. The only difference now is that we are willingly participating in our own humiliation. We are complicit in our degradation.

Did you see “Miracle at St. Anna,” Txhustla? I loved the film, and I would love to do more research into the history of the Buffalo Soldiers.

Yeah of course in our military family we always have alot of those flicks , my old man is military history nut. We have alot of stuff on the buffalo soliders, as well as a museum here for them as they of course were active in these parts with the wars against the Native Americans/latter part post civil war. There is some good books and some resources online, I recommend checking it out..

@ Sydney™ – You can see the difference with Chappelle too, always loved him. His recent standup he did at the Laugh Factory was nuts as usual, he gets to do it on his own terms..

lol @ HF

I see why I’m usually the “odd ball”. I understand and appreciate myself and others for not being the “majority”.

How about this Tyler Perry:
“Madea opens a book”

@ Mrs B. I totally agree

lol, if Spike wanted to be the only black director in Hollywood, why didnt he ever have anything against John Singleton?

There are PLENTY of black women lighter complected than Spike lee’s wife. Black culture isnt defined by your skin tone anyway. Just ask Angela Davis!

Black culture isnt defined by your skin tone anyway. Just ask Angela Davis!
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MMMmmmmm Angela Davis… sigh…..

@HF

In retrospect, I dont think You or I will be holding our breathe waiting on that “till then” …. lol

HF

that was referring to the old Afro wearing Angela!

I dont think blacks would have such a chip on their soldier about their portrayals in Hollywood if the picture in real life wasnt largely negative.

Candy Cane

HF

that was referring to the old Afro wearing Angela!
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MMMMMmmmmmmm!!!!!! So was I… sigh…

HF

lol, gotcha!

@Eshaneua

Spike lee has been in the game for over 20 yrs. Are you sure he has NOTHING to show for it?

tad bit exaggaration dont you think?!

Candy Cane

LOL! In comparison to Tyler Perry, yes, Spike doesn’t have that much to show for it.

Marquis

— see my comment to Kigali at 1:40. that goes for you too.

bait not accepted from you either.

Txhustla15

Yeah, that plus what’s goin’ on in Somalia with exploitation of using them as pirates/henchmen while jacking cargo ships. I tell ya’, greed and death seems to be par the course.

@ Cabdy Cane

Kudos to you my sista

@HF
That was perfect!!! The only thing “successful” about Tyler Perry is his so called income. Well success isnt defined that way to me. Some of the dumbest people are rich. Your self worth should not be for sale or weighed like money.

Apparently if Spike wanted to distribute minstrel television he could have ages ago. But he chose to follow his own path. I dont agree with people just because they have x-amount of money. I feel thats a MAJOR problem in society today.

McDonalds analogy was nothing short of blissfully brilliant! lol

Thank you lakeshow!

Candy Cane

@HF
That was perfect!!! The only thing “successful” about Tyler Perry is his so called income. Well success isnt defined that way to me. Some of the dumbest people are rich. Your self worth should not be for sale or weighed like money.

Apparently if Spike wanted to distribute minstrel television he could have ages ago. But he chose to follow his own path. I dont agree with people just because they have x-amount of money. I feel thats a MAJOR problem in society today.

McDonalds analogy was nothing short of blissfully brilliant! lol
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You’re talking about a LEGACY.

God forbid this, but if Spike & Tyler were 2 drop dead right now, who would b noted 4 making more MONEY and who would b noted 4 his filmaking LEGACY?

As long as tyler puppets were calling anyone with a counter opinion a “hater” there was nothing. But as soon as a spike empathizer steps in, now here comes a debate.

shoot me for liking progressive programming.

HF

exactly! A legacy will remain forever. Money aka our legal tender will depreciate, be taxed and be taken and change every day.

There really is no contest. And lets face it, the only reason tyler perry is “pissed” is because the truth hurts. God forbid Spike wakes up a few people!

i have seen many of Spike’s joints as well as Tyler’s. Each shows what they perceive as different aspects of Black life and the way the charecters respond to life’s challenges based on their upbringing, experiences and current circumstances. Some of Tyler’s charecters are over the top.But what was the Mars Blackmon charecter? Spike can be very handed with his message, so can Tyler. For me I’ll continue to enjoy both of the African American auteurs becaause i love films and i LOVE Black films.

ignore button ON

Ma to the Dea

I will not discuss anything with some ignorant person throwing out lewd, insulting,degrading remarks. You wanna debate fine, but wait until you get out of pre-school to do so.

Ef Spike.

It’s not that serious. Maybe spike wouldn’t criticize if tyler had people floating around the show like spike does in all his films.

HF

“What’s their point? Milli Vanilli sold millions 2!”

I don’t get your anecdote. Are implying that the quality of Milli Vanilli’s music is less because it was revealed they didn’t do the actual singing? How does that take away from the quality of the actual songs? Btw, their cd sold over 7 million units.

And how is Tyler setting black people back?

@Candy Cane

dummed…Is that a word?

Kigali

“LETHARGIC” has always been commercial…Hell, Paul Blart: Mall Cop made over $130 million domestically…And why single out Tyler, and not take the Wayan Brothers to task? Aren’t they also guilty of the same “ARTISTIC” transgressions as Tyler?

@Marquis,

“I guess you feel the same way re: JIM CARREY, ADAM SANDLER, EDDIE MURPHY or all of MICHEAL BAY’s oovre?”

Except when these guys act a fool, Murphy being the exception, they arent seen through a racial gaze. They are acting independent of their white race. When a black person takes a shit, it stinks the whole community. Why? Who the hell knows. Its just the way it is. And as I said, if the community wasnt by and large a cess pool of degredation we wouldnt take these portrayals so seriously. Our negative stereotypes arent benign like the Chinese martial arts, chef or the illegal yet hard working Mexican immigrant.

HF

“This idea that some1’s ability 2 generate dollars is directly proportional to it’s quality is a FALLACY.”

Your rationale would be legitimate if we were talking about something actually “VIABLE” to ones’ existence, but we’re talking about “ART”, and “ART” like anything “POP CULTURAL” is “SUBJECTIVE”, i.e., your trash is someone elses treasure. This harkens back to my earlier assessment that you, Candy Cane, and like minded others are being unfairly “ELITIST”.

love both of these black men and wish that spike could just agree to disagree. everything black that hits theaters will not meet his approval…………….and that’s okay!

@Marquis

The Wayans havent pretended to be about black comedy. Mall Cop wasnt white Mall Cop. It Tyler Perry did a Mall Cop with a black guy, it would be just as non racial as the white one. Perry specifically characterizes his productions as being black oriented.

Candy Cane

I’m not acting oblivious. I just find your “ELITISM” unfair and too arbitrary while singling out Tyler Perry as if his efforts will solely bring down the black community, that by y’all oun admission is artistically diversified in its’ tastes and needs. At the end of the day, whether we’re black or white, we’re all individuals and art is subjective.

Marquis de Sade

HF

“This idea that some1’s ability 2 generate dollars is directly proportional to it’s quality is a FALLACY.”

Your rationale would be legitimate if we were talking about something actually “VIABLE” to ones’ existence, but we’re talking about “ART”, and “ART” like anything “POP CULTURAL” is “SUBJECTIVE”, i.e., your trash is someone elses treasure. This harkens back to my earlier assessment that you, Candy Cane, and like minded others are being unfairly “ELITIST”.
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So then, if we agree on art as subjective, then that again proves that noboby can QUALIFY art based on how much it makes.

As far as the elitist tag goes, well… if wanting 2 c more inclusive depictions of black people in the media makes me an elitist, then so b it.

Hillary said the same thing about Obama.

Candy Candy

Excuse me, but I think my comments were more than GERMANE to this particular thread. If anything, you are the one who was guilty of veering off the subject with your BLACKER THAN THOU edicts on why Tyler’s art has no right to exist because in your “SUBJECTIVE” opinion, his oovre has no “ARTISTIC MERITS”.

marquis

whatever dude, lol. okay whatever you say ol’ holy one.

blacker than thou is a compliment to me. Thanks!

The bottom line is that Spike is jealous, his ego (as always) has him diareahring at the mouth.

Tyler Perry loves to collaoborate…he just finished “Precious” with Oprah and that is going to be a humdinger ringer baby!! Talk about controversial and edgy.

If Spike were smart (or even calculating in an intellegent way) he would opt to sit down and exchange a few ideas with Tyler instead of lashing out. But he can’t because he is a prisoner of his own ego. Spike has probably “youtubed” the trailers of “Precious” and the green monster got him by the drawers…po thang…

Spike Lee’s assessment is on point. Leave it to him to have the balls to call it what it is.

You have to respect each mans gift bc you can’t do it doesn’t means it’s not “art”. Spike may be jealous bc this is Tylers season. God Bless them both.

Candy Cane

When did I imply that Money = Art, and vice versa? I’m merely defending Tyler’s vision the right to exist, and if you disagree or not, his art does have viability in his fans eyes. Unlike you, I just refuse to set myself up as the ARBITER OF GOOD TASTE…Afterall, about 15 years or so, someone took an empty mayonaise jar, pissed in it, dropped a crusifix in, and called it “PISS CHRIST”. The NEA gave this person $25000.00 and called it art. Ya’ see, SUBJECTIVE.

Spike Lee jealous of Tyler Perry? Doubtful. He’s still got his soul.

Spike Lee and his followers-tsk,tsk, tsk.
Stop acting brand new. I grew up middle class and knew people identical to TP’s characters-we all do.
Oh, and a bit of clarification-CMT have shows such as ‘my redneck wedding’. Do you hear whites people complaining about that? NO? They couldn’t give a rats balls about it.

Marquis you are usually more consistent with your approach.

Madea makes me laugh too much to hate her. The critics are those in our community who are has beens and don’t welcome competition. Instead what they should do is humble themselves and apply for a job at TP Studios. The brother became a billionaire faster than Oprah. We have come a long way Baby! No looking back. No regrets for one who broke the mold and recast it without playing Hollyweird’s game. Bravo, my brother, Bravo!

Candy Cane, I think Marquise has just been proven 2 have a short memory span. That was the EXACT agrument Marquise and others made. I said they were invoking the Mickey-D’s defense, then Marquise proceeded 2 tell me how art is subjective and in the eye of the beholder.

Well…DUH!!!!!

Still waiting on where that quote came from, Marquise… [crickets chirping]

Candy Cane

Uhhh, i’m gonna let you think about this for awhile. How did I contradict myself? Not once did I imply Tyler’s art was better than Spike’s or Vice Versa. I just stated that Tyler’s art has afforded him a more lucrative return, thus giving more freedom to greenlight more projects without putting himself at the mercy of the BIG STUDIO machine…And in comparison to ones’ bank account, I can assure you Tyler has a bigger account than Spike.

HF

I mis-read your earlier comment. I appologize.

Marquis de Sade

HF

I mis-read your earlier comment. I appologize
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Apology appreciated and accepted. Thanks.

Marquis is APOLOGIZING?!? What in Sam hell?!? Just the other day, I caught 6am defending somebody. Are y’all going soft???

sorry about that i was rushing

oh ABSOLUTELY! Spike Lee H.A.S in fact made that point extremely C.L.E.A.R.!!! and c’mon in Tylers’ heart- he KNOWS this truth 2!

Tyler Perry is a good brotha but this is not our country. If WE in Africa and black men took education seriously. We could make trash and laugh because we won the war and OWN everything in our society. But as a minority with little ownership, its hard to laugh at someone making u look like a buffoon.

If WE were in Africa and black men took education seriously. Correction.

Bye, HF & Marquis, I’m out. Enjoy the rest of your day fellas!

STFU ‘big titi mixed daughter’ with a stupid name like that you deserve to DIE a slow painful death!

not “propir” thats “people”

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@ 6 a.m., I knew you’d add your commentary

@ word to the wise,

I come late to the party, I never miss the shit!

@ 6,

I know you don’t, brother.

Should I start my own blog, and if i did how many of you woukld follow me there?

I mean you’d have to be open minded because exactly what youre reading now would be exactly what would come from my mouth every day.

Yeah, Spike’s got a point just like
http://panachereportexposed.com/exposed/

Spike Lee is just bitter.. There are black people in the world just like the people Tyler portrays.. and we should not be ashamed of where we came from.. Every body must be perfect in Spike’s little world.. To hell with catering to a “white” Hollywood.. Tyler speaks to the hearts of the people who reflect him and where he came from. That is why he built his ((own)) studio.. so he would not have to answer to NObody.. I guess Mr. Lee is the new and improved renaissance negro (in his own mind).. lol I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion though..

@ 6 a.m. LOL! Ya know, I’ve never looked into the audience of Tyler’s fans – I’m sure they vary from ghetto to Ivy League. It’s just entertainment. How about people who are reality TV stans. I can imagine some of their IQ’S are below that of a knat.

If spike spent as much time developing Black Female characters, without sexualizing them beyond belief (girl 6, she’s gotta have it), or marginalizing them as a girlfriend or wife, then maybe he too could tap into the market that has been so successful for tyler. Some of tyler’s characters are stereotypical, but a lot of them are smart, driven and determined with good hearts. Both tyler and spike could spend a little more time on their scripts. Neither is a pefect film maker. But Tyler is very successful right now and I’m sure spike is a little Jealous.

Im gonna let yall speak amongst yourselves for a minute, hopefully when i come back someone will have an answer for that black/white pay difference.

@ word to the wise,

what university did your sister attend?

???

Bwhahahahaha!!!

@ 6,

She went to Howard University medical school about 26 years ago. It might not be Ivy League, she got a damn good education and she’s at the top of her game.

ok, some people may see tyler perry’s plays as offensive or whatever. but guess what, madea speaks TRUTH. no matter what madea says or does, she always has a lesson for the people around her and inspires people to do better. i just wish that more people had a madea in their lives, that way they wouldn’t be doing the STUPID UNNECESSARY stuff they are doing now. and as far as the extra stuff, its just COMEDY!!!! people get a life and stop putting so much thought into NOTHING. GET OVER IT and MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

and as far as spike lee goes, YOU JUST MAD THAT YOU GOT SOME COMPETITION. GET OVER YOURSELF B****!!!!!!!

Well at least Tyler is giving work to black actors.

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I agree with Spike Lee to a certain extent. We (black people) are sterotyped everyday. Some of the shows that we see today are living up to the sterotype. We have enough issues, why can’t we be shown in a positive light with substance? It’s time to let others know that we ARE somebody and not just some what you see out on the streets and TV.

Wordtothewise:

you’re right about that. and its such a shame

I am NOT a fan of Madea for that very reason. Yes those characters exsist but that is all “they” think we are. Spike in his age has been working my nerves. He is not the voice of all black people. I do agree with him on this. Both shows are corny as hell and a major embarassment.

well damn, I guess Tyler Perry told you Spike Lee.

@6am
You have your opinion, so what suggestions do you have to hire Blacks in the industry and work for yourself and not depend on the White man telling you what to do, how much you will earn, or how you should look in order to do it?

SPIKE is right. Tyler has been producing low budget features for a while now and laughing all the way to the bank. He’s getting his money but at what expense? He perpetuates an image of the African American community that has been beat into the ground. It would be wonderful if he would take some time to develop his one dimensional characters. Even the successful black characters he writes into his scripts lack any personality. I think Tyler struggles when it comes to in-depth writing. He’s good for the quick buck.

How about we start with the people on this blog commenting? If you want change, and want to see black people portrayed in a better light, start by learning how to write clear and cohesive sentences, with proper grammar and sentence structure. Some of you on here put educated black people to shame. It takes only a minute to think of a response, and then another to spell check said response.

Spike Lee needs to go sit down somewhere. Not all of his work was good. Soooooo…..he needs to step back and allow Tyler to be himself.

Spike Lee is hating…. Everybody knows a Madea or Mr. Brown from the hood…. the fact is that these “booshie” blacks like Spike is jealous and should be more supportive of Tyler’s work. I for one see the characters Tyler has created as strong, resilient, stoic and moving…. They hate the fact that Tyler doesn’t have a “formal” education in his craft….fall the f*ck back Spike!

Both men are great contributors to man kind in there own way. One should not judge the other because of their views.. If one thinks that the other could do better then they should shut up and do it themselves.. no need for the bashing… that is what ticks me off about people.. the time they take to bash another can be spent on something more uplifting.. but I guess everyone wants their OPINION to be law and valid.. heard from the mountain top.. praised and loved…. when the truth is.. NO ONE gives a rats a@@ about the other man’s opinion.. at least they should not…. do what ya to TP.. do what ya do SL… both paint an accurate pic of someone’s life.. each life or portrayal is worth no more or no less than the other.. aint no competition is GOD’s realm.. lol..peace

lol ok im not perfect–that should have been a 4-5 figure monthly allowance–lol–between 7-10 k

I think that both spike lee and Tyler Perry show parts of the black community. be happy for one another. keep doing the great jobs that you guys do.

When Spike makes as much money as Tyler, maybe I’ll listen to him.

Money Talks.

We are the only race that destroys each other in the media. Fu**ing idiots…

rhoda

@6am
You have your opinion, so what suggestions do you have to hire Blacks in the industry and work for yourself and not depend on the White man telling you what to do, how much you will earn, or how you should look in order to do it?
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Damn girl are you a LAW-yuh???
lol *lawyer…

@ Chaka,

what would you tell spike? leave Emmitt alone because some people love seeing blacks portrayed as ignorant buffoons?

Next time let a more seasoned reporter interview Emmitt Perry, an investigative reporter, not some dude that 60 minutes hired to fill what looks to be a much softer version of the magnificent late Ed Bradley. Ed asked Michael jackson all the right questions “what about those kids in your bed michael”?

Bye ya’ll, you can have your room back, Im going to dinner.

love 6am, genius!

and one more thing, Miracle At St. Anna bombed because it was like 4 hours long “war” with hardly any action, it was just not “THAT” good

Sasha Baron Cohen is the actor who plays Borat, Bruno, and Ali G, you don’t see Robert Deniro out there shitting on him do you?

Spike played himself with this one

bye all!

“Why can’t we think outside the damn box! Science-fiction or maybe some sort of thriller, or mystery?”

I think a film adaptation of one of Octavia Butler’s novels would be very interesting. I would like to see a sister director, such as Kasi Lemmons, tackle such a project. I would have greatly preferred Ms. Lemmons to have helmed Perry’s next production, “For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide When the Rainbow Is Enuf.” I just have the sinking feeling that this Tony-nominated play is going to be turned into another Chitlin’ Circuit masterpiece.

“Spike Lee is a GREAT director/producer but how many people can relate to the “upper middle class”??”

Actually, more people than some may think. After all, there were certain individuals who said that the Huxtables were also “unrealistic,” but the depiction of an upper middle-class family headed by two college-educated, professional parents was seen as ordinary by a number of African Americans living similar lives.

@ Its6amHoGetOut

Errr. Are you out of work? You seem to be very bitter.

Also, Tyler is positive, following Jesus, has love and always a good underlying story. What else would you want????

Sydney, you had me laughing when you were making the corrections above. God love ya, girl. You’ve got the patience of JOB.

@Awwwwshaddaaap!!!!

“Sydney, you had me laughing when you were making the corrections above. God love ya, girl. You’ve got the patience of JOB.”

LMBAO, how are you? I just couldn’t let those two “hood” flicks be attached to Spike. The cinephile in me just couldn’t. I know Spike and John are both black, but the similarities end there. . .

Please don’t even compare TP to Spike. TP has his niche but that’s it. Spike Lee is one of the greatest directors ever white or black. TP is pissed because deep inside he knows it’s true – but more power to him, make that money and do whatever makes you successful.

WELLL FIRST OF ALLL SPIKE???? U HAVE BEEN WHERE??? EXACTLY KEEP TAKIN YA NAPZ…DONT BE MAD CUZ TP IS OUT THERE GETTIN HIS MONEY AND HAVING HIS RANKINGS UP SOMEWHERE U HAVENT BEEN..NOW AS FOR HOUSE OF PAINS IS ONE OF THE BEST SITCOMS EVERRRR SINCE THE WAYANS BRO. BEEEN ON…S0O0O SPIKE GO UNDER THAT ROCK WHERE U BEEN..NEVER BEEN A FAN OF URS AND NEVER WILL LIKE YOUR WACK!!!!!..LOL I THINK HE’S FEEN’N FOR SUM ATTENTION THATS WHAT IT IZ….

na na:

not all blacks believe in jesus dear.

come on guys “MEET THE BROWNS” enough said

I feel that there is room in our community for both Spike Lee and Tyler Perry. I wish that the two gentlemen would sit down together with coffee or tea and just talk film producer to film producer. I think that would help them to respect each other as artists and peacefully agree to disagree and who knows- there might be a future collaberation.

I hate Madea and Meet The Browns. Spike is right.

once again we have the Willie Lynch theory!

Spike has a point but at the same time I believe he is jealous of Tyler and his huge success and vision. Tyler is very talented and this his form of entertainment and Spike has his. Tyler has his own studio and he seems to have much control over his work, which alot of african-americans in that business don’t, that’s power. This is were we miss the mark. You may not like Tyler’s brand of entertainment but if you have a project, tv show etc want done, I think it be good to go to Tyler first and support his studio. As a people we don’t come together when we should we don’t support one another. Me personally, I can’t stand the Mr. Brown character, he is a clown but our stories are diverse and as long as there is a balance of our experiences being presented and supported by our own, I don’t have a problem with Tyler’s work. Everybody has or known a Madea.

SMH ..

Go head Spike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No dis to Tyler but Spike is right!

Spike is plain jealous. And he got that short man complex too.

Tyler Perry recently sent a group of children to Disney World after they were refused entry into a local swimming pool. When has Spike Lee made a generous gesture like that recently?

@Bohemian Chick…HAVE THIS TRIP TAKEN PLACE YET? IF SO, when?

Stop Hateing Spike support your brother!

@black-a-rifick

I guess Tyler and you will enjoy hell together then. You closeted homo…

Nevermind the intellect – Spike is straight Hatin cause he did not possess the same ingenuity that TP has with the whole Madea persona. Quite frankly, I never cared for Spike’s twist on cinematography (the halucinogenic effect) he uses. But the best was Crooklyn, and Malcolm X.

GET TO THE POINT! TYLER PERRY HAS A POINT WITHIN EVERY STORY HE TELLS. MOST ARE ABOUT MAKING SOMETHING BETTER OUT OF A BAD SITUATION. NOT LETTING A MAN MISTREAT U. LEANING NOT ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND TRUSTING GOD. THAT’S THE MESSAGE HE’S PUTTING OUT THERE FOR ALL PEOPLE NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE. AND HE’S DOING IT IN A COMEDIC WAY. BLACK PEOPLE(SPIKE LEE) DONT HATE YOUR OWN CONGRADULATE AND PARTICIPATE AND CELEBRATE THE POSITIVE THINGS THIS MAN IS DOING

team SPIKE – I think I’ll make a shirt.

@d303

team SPIKE – I think I’ll make a shirt.
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lol. I’ll take 10.

NOTHING AGAINST TYLER, BUT I AM TIRED OF MADEA..REALY TIRED OF BLACK MEN WEARING DRESSES IN THE NAME OF COMEDY.

Just take a look at Housewives of Atlanta. Even though some of these black women are suppose to be upper class with new money, why are they loud, belligerant, ranting and raving, gossiping, backstabbing, lying, pulling hair or choking another (allegedly) in messed up broken relationships, absentee fathers, you name it…it was there. So why is Spike Lee pretending that it doesn’t exist? My Grandmother from the Midwest is a bitter, gossipy, loud, raving Madea who used to be very domineering, abusive and controlling to her husband and family and community alike. It is good to find her meek and feeble these days as she has shrunk with old-age. It is easy to prove Tylers point. Many of us can go undercover with hidden cameras to communities in GA, Mississippi, Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, the Carolinas, Alabama, and FL just to name a few and find “The Browns and Madea.” Tyler is speaking from experience. I’m sure that if we were dig in Spike’s (born Shelton Jackson Lee) roots we will find Browns that he shuns and would not invite to a family reunion because he is ashamed of them. Go figure.

I can’t wait for Why Did I Get Married 2 to come out!

@ Mr. Kush

Spike aint hurting Tyler’s Money and Tyler aint hurting Spike’s. This is all stupid!

Don’t get mad TP. Just look as it as a form of flattery. If Spike got something negative to say about you, then you must be doing something right!

How embarrassing and shameful is it that Mr. Lee, one of the few african-american filmmakers in the country would publicly ridicule one of his own? This is just that green-eyed monster rearing its ugly fish-eyed head (sorry, I’m so angry with him for such a trifling move that its made me act a bit childish, too). Its awful that he would make a deliberate statement in an attempt to divide a community already struggling with uniting on so many levels.
Tyler can rest assure that had he not posed a threat to Mr. Lee’s over-inflated ego, this would have never happened.
Keep doing what you’re doing Mr. Tyler – most of us have grown to love the characters you’ve created and excitedly await to see what they’ll do next!

OMG no I didn’t spell congratulate “Congradulate!” Lord have mercy…..what has come over me????!!!! LOL!

Love

OH on another note…Spike just hatin.

Spike is mad because Tyler is the man of the moment, he has his own studio and all. Spike needs to go and offer to sweep the floors or something to help the brother out.

Spike is entitled to his opinion. However, his comments are disrespectful. My great-grandmother was “Madea”. She was brass, courageous and loved her family to death. I believe the world could use a few more Madeas here on Earth. TALK TO THE HAND SPIKE!

And Spike doesn’t peddle buffoonery? I present, for the jury’s inspection, article of evidence #1: She Hate Me.

Tyler said it’s a bait to draw people in, maybe but at the same time what about those who don’t need to baited. I can appreciate what he is doing but for the black woman whose accomplished and wants to be finally taken serious this can be a set back. I just think we’re overdosed on Madea. The real bait should have been the first plays or moives and now that Tyler has captured the worlds eyes it’s now time to proved the real substance of black folk.

TP looks just like The Game.

Anyway, Spike has his opinion but he could have been a little more diplomatic. Intellectual black on black violence is black on black conflict nonetheless. Maybe if he had collaborated with TP a new and improved product would rise. Think and act positively.

ok…….

MR LEE IS PISSED CAUSE HE DIDN’T GET FAR TERRY CAME FROM HARD KNOCK LIFE AND CAME UP AND MR LEE BEEN IN THE GAME FROM SCHOOL DAYS TO WHAT ELSE I CAN’T REMEMBER MR PERRY DOING IS THING MAKING THE PEOPLE LAUGH AND HIS FANS LOVE HIM HE’S BLESS KEEP DOING YOUR THING MY BROTHER AND MR LEE STOP BEING A DAMN HATER

@6am

We should be able to vote posts up! that’s hilarious!

@ Blu Buddafly,

Nothing warms my heart more than acknowledgement of my genius, I 6am thank you.

BUT IM STILL RETIRING 12/31/09 AT 5PM!

love 6am

crabs in a barrel, spike’s jealous cuz his career didn’t get the kind of support that tyler’s has

6am resident genius is done, I gotta go to work ya’ll, enjoy your chat.

Goodness, it’s comedy darling. No one is saying that these films are standard or blueprint for blacks. Think of all the slapstick comedies whites create. I think Spike is lighting a fire where none need be lit. I find Perry’s films always have an underlying message of redemption. Perhaps dear Spike should stay till the end of the film.

I don’t think Spike Lee is jealous he’s an artist first and foremost. Maybe not as big a money maker as Tyler Perry but it’s obvious he reveres the art of film making. Artist critique each other but always look to each other for inspiration.

I agree it’s time for Tyler Perry to “kick it up a Notch” I now live in the Southeast where people believe a Tyler Perry play is theater. He has a captive audience now and enough money to take a chance get un-stuck and show all kinds of characters with depth and diversity of thinking and purpose. Maybe he could even produce some other writers.

I have to admit though Madea has made me laugh but enough is enough TP, time to grow up.

BTW
someone mentioned how spike couldn’t send all those kids to Disneyland like TP did . It was a nice gesture but there’s enough black folk with money these days to build those kids a bigger and better pool. Just thought I’d put it out there.

I don’t date American Black men.I will not visit this site anymore.I feel like I lost some IQ’S points.

Tyler P, Keep doing your things. Continue to write/speak about God, Faith, Prayer, Strength, and Forgiveness.

@ SpikeMYOB

I couldn’t agree with you any better than that.