?

f*ck mothers!

I’m not surprised. Any time there are party’s called “lightskin only” within the African community, I cannot be surprised.

Mother’s Night Club Original
26 W Division St
Chicago, IL 60610-2217
(312) 642-7251

So will the white young man get a piece of the law suit money being he was the one who did the experiment? Who takes a class trip and on the list of things/places to see is a bar?

Most clubs do have dress code policies. If he changed pants with the white man whose to say that the pants were a proper fit? C’mon, Im sure there were other bars around they could go to. Some ppl love the drama.

I heard about this last week, but didn’t know that the black student changed clothes with the white student and the white student was granted entry. That in itself speaks volumes and I’d love to hear the rebuttal made from the club owner…

@Rhianna
I have never seen a “light skinned only” signs at any party or gathering but, if there was one you can be sure it was some dark skinned brothers who put up the sign to attract redbones…SMFH

smh

@RazeKane
here in Philly, they advertise it on the radio, quite blatantly. There aren’t any signs involved(that I know of). I just heard it in the car on the radio. True story.

I also heard that the students who organized this trip contacted the club and told the club about their planned visit. The problem that I heard about was that the club claimed to be worried about security but they were already aware of this group of people attending their venue. So, the dispute was more involving the fact that Washington University has a stereotypical student body of rich, white kids and then when the black kids showed up there was a “problem”…

yeah racism is alive and well and always will be until white folks realize that they are worse than blacks and that will never happen!!

MOTHERS HAS ALWAYS BEEN RACIST. Hell Chicago is racist…. Most of our restaurants and clubs have strict dress codes to keep us away..

There are also black establishments that have strict dress codes! What they (Mother’s) did was wrong, especially after the young man changed clothes…..But, they do this at some black establishments to keep out a certain element.

Racism isn’t going anywhere. Obama’s presidency is not and will not change much of anything in that aspect. We don’t have time to worry about racism with other races when we must battle the racism in our own community.

@elektrikeccentrik

Racism isn’t going anywhere. Obama’s presidency is not and will not change much of anything in that aspect. We don’t have time to worry about racism with other races when we must battle the racism in our own community.
_______________________________________________

HELLO!!!!

I’m definitely not siding with the bar but–PULL UP YOUR PANTS, BROTHAS!!!!

It’s NOT cute.
If you knew where and why it originated, you’d jack your pants up so fast……
It demeans you.
You’re stereotyped.

You see how they quickly used this as the initial excuse? Once confronted, they said they were denied entry for “safety reasons.”

Most places I visit when I decide to go out have a strict dress code. So much, they no longer post signs.

If you want to dress like thugs, eventually you’ll be treated like one.

correction *Mothers*

@Ara
______________________

Yup…..

@kennedy
After seeing the way we are targeted everyday by police and anybody else in power, I don’t see how we shouldn’t be cautious of they asses either. The same can be said.

Sass
but kennedy much like the little boy ho got maced black males are bringing these problems onto themselves.

Racism Doesn’t Exist Anymore?

Asinine headline. What the f*ck kind of idiot would suggest racism doesn’t exist anymore? It’ll NEVER disappear. It’s as old as mankind.

But seriously, I heard the white kid was so fat that them baggies looked like skinny jeans on ‘im… he slid his pasty lard-ass right into the bar without a second glance…

@sassalene

@kennedy
After seeing the way we are targeted everyday by police and anybody else in power, I don’t see how we shouldn’t be cautious of they asses either. The same can be said.

Sass
but kennedy much like the little boy ho got maced black males are bringing these problems onto themselves.
________________________________________________

Thats true. But don’t you agree that this establishment should be consistent? Are baggy jeans allowed or not? Or, are baggy jeans strictly allowed for YTS?

well i must say i wouldn’t have wanted all that ghettoness in my establishment either. too bad black men perpetuate these stereotypes of the baggy pants doo rag wearing likely to start a shootout (as in the other bar a few weeks ago)but never understand when others fear what tends to come of those stereotypes.

Sorry black people but this has been a pet peeve of mine for some time. We must pull our pants up literally and figuratively. I would have to think that college seniors have the sense to do that but I’m never surprised.

On the other hand, Washington University is no joke either. It’s a really good and tough school. I imagine that the black students weren’t dressed any differently than most of the other (white) patrons. If these were freshmen, I could see some of them coming up to the door with their pants around their knees. Seniors, who will be out in the work force this spring, know better and were probably dressed fine.

the white boy put on baggy pants and was let in. this was clearly not about their pants being too baggy. but of course black people would rather put the blame on their own instead of calling white racists out on their bullshit.

so what you’re all basically saying is that wearing baggy pants is bad, unless white people wear them.

SMH, black people have truly become spineless idiots. our ancestors would be ashamed of what we’ve become. all their hard work was obviously for nothing.

@Kennedy

I agree if they don’t want baggy or sagging pants then they should be consistent and don’t allow anyone of any race with them. I do not applaud racism against our people but i do think that sometimes we bring it on ourselves.

I don’t care if the bar is racist or not…PULL UP YOUR GOD D@MN PANTS!! It doesn’t matter if they were Black or White, just like everything else….YOU GAVE THEM AN EXCUSE!! Stop giving them excuses to exclude us, then the true racism will shine through with no reasoning.

all of you up here coming down on the black victims in this situation must have missed the part where they let the white boy in with baggy pants.

@sassalene

@Kennedy

I agree if they don’t want baggy or sagging pants then they should be consistent and don’t allow anyone of any race with them. I do not applaud racism against our people but i do think that sometimes we bring it on ourselves.
___________________________________________________

We’re not talking about some cases we’re talking about this case. And in this case we did not “bring it upon ourselves”

Let me tell you something for real: if any other race was known for wearing baggy pants – and those baggy pants often being associated with a thug gangster mentality which often results in fights breaking out or weapons being pulled – I wouldn’t want that race in my establishment either!

anytime little children are turned away from a pool that the, collectively, paid over a thousands dollar for. the fabric of this “american” society was built in racism(satanism and pedophelia, too) and is will always have a part as long as the devil can lie.

DaHonestTruth ~ Turn My Swag On

Let me tell you something for real: if any other race was known for wearing baggy pants – and those baggy pants often being associated with a thug gangster mentality which often results in fights breaking out or weapons being pulled – I wouldn’t want that race in my establishment either!
_____________________________________________________

I usually agree with some of your points Da truth, but these are COLLEGE KIDS AND THEY CHANGED THEIR PANTS! I AGREE ABOUT THE GANGSTER ACTIVITY, BUT BOYS ON A FIELD TRIP WITH THE COLLEGE? NAW, LITTLE MAN, YOU CAN WEAR WHAT EVER YOU WANT, AS LONG AS YOU DONT LOOK LIKE MONSTER KODY OR MARYLIN MANSON.

I can’nt get over the fact that some thought that having a black president would actually change racism in this country. A lot of whites are racist against the president. Racism will be here for a long time so be aware. Freedom to dress as you please is a civil liberty, however first impressions are by which people judge you. If you want to avoid aggravation and unnecessary hassles, learn to be a chameleon, in other words learn to adjust to your surroundings. You know they are looking for any lame excuse.

VENUES!

@Glok

You know what, I usually don’t agree with some of your posts about Obama but I have to agree with you 100% here, race relations have gotten much worse since he stepped in office. There are more crimes and situations that are driven by hate now than I have every seen in my life.

DA HONEST TRUTH!
SEE THATZ THE DIFFERENCE IN GOOD AND BAD WEED …I THINK VERY DEEPLY WITH THE GOOD SHIT!!

CARAMEL CAT !
HEY SO THATZ WHY YOU STOP SPEAKING CUZ …I WAS CUSSING “BAWACK OH BAAH MA ” THE BIRACIAL SAVIOR & SHEPERD OF OUR TIME!

@Glok

I never stopped speaking! lol, you haven’t spoken to me either But, no, I always respected your opinion about him, I just didn’t agree with 100% of what you were saying before. But, the point about race relations is spot on!

This place is RACIST!! I’m hispanic and we were turned away because my boyfriend was wearing “boots”
Come on!! It’s a freaken bar!! U just have to accept it and just not go back there! Its not gonna go away! I just hate the people made such a big deal out of it!

B’More,

It’s called “head up their ass, Negros.” They couldn’t see the truth if it hit them square in the face. Some of us love making excuses for what is clearly a racist act.

Hey, if you don’t know that we can’t do like they do and get away with it, then you haven’t been paying attention. We have to be better and more educated, more articulate and consistently “on point” just to compete with mediocre or below average white people. Day shifter said it best, “don’t give them excuses.”

I have been to this bar. I don’t think it was a racial thing. IF YOU GO TO THIS BAR IT IS STRAIGHT UP JUNGLE FEVER. Alot of brothers with wife girls. That being said Chicago has a problem with bars turning ghetto and getting shut down because of violence. It is, what it is.

More facts are needed but it doesn’t look good for the bar owners. I bet they have their lawyers working overtime right now.

CARAMEL CAT
GOOD ..I HOPED YOU DIDNT TURN INTO A MEAN OL LIONESS,.LOL, THANKS I SPEAK FROM THE HEART NOT FOR ATTENTION,… IF I DIDNT SPEAK FORGIVE MI,..I KNEW THAT PREZ WAS A NO GO !

@shawn jones

I have been to this bar. I don’t think it was a racial thing. IF YOU GO TO THIS BAR IT IS STRAIGHT UP JUNGLE FEVER. Alot of brothers with wife girls. That being said Chicago has a problem with bars turning ghetto and getting shut down because of violence. It is, what it is.
____________________________________________

This bar IS racist. Just b/c some sellouts come in w/YT girls doesn’t take away from the fact. Most large cities like Chicago have that problem with Bars turning ghetto. what are you talking about? If they aren’t racist how do you explain what happened?

I’ll try to post it to you in increments…

@TXhustla

I respect your view and you are right, the media is definitely sensationalizing alot of this stuff for ratings and so forth.

@Glok.. I Getz lifted!!

WOW I can’t believe what I’m reading. I so agree w/u. Why do BPeople want so badly to assimilate into their culture. To be so stupid and blind as to say this wasn’t racism against your brother? thats crazy. Makes you wonder how much longer can we go on like this w/o support from each other?….

Puhlease, i hate this bar with a passion. Chicago is a racist segregated city. I wld go to this bar with my co workers for happy hour and feel so unwelcome even with a bunch of white friends. Ugh sigh i couldnt get ahead in chicago so i bounced to DC! But yeah this spot is a no go for blacks. Its one of those places that if you are black and even an educated one like myself being there makes you feel like an uncle Tom just saying.

@Glok

Naw, never that. I don’t roll like that and like every other blogger on here, you are entitled to your opinion as long as it isn’t disrespecting anyone. I didn’t think things would necessarily be peachy after he was elected, but I did not expect for the hate and ignorance to be awakened like a sleeping giant either…

@KENNEDY
Racial and racist are two different things. A racist bar would not allow JUNGLE FEVER. Racial or racist? You decide. I was not there that night. Chicago is a racist city and I was shocked to see all of the interracial couples in there partying.

CARAMEL CAT
I CALL IT THE OBAMA BACKLASH ,..THEY GONNA LOCK YOUR AZZ UP FOR STEALING WATERMELON IN THE END OF SUMMER AND GIVE YOU BAIL AT 1,000 DOLLAZ…ANYTHING! …THEY GOT US UNDER MICROSCOPE MORE THAN EVER AND WE GOT 3 MORE YRS TO GO …IF WE MAKE IT THAT LONG!

@ sassalene

The law says you can go to any public establishment, but I always have said Blacks need to patronize their own business establishments. Also, need to build up their own neighborhoods and communities. The Japanese, Koreans and other races do it. Instead of as soon as they get a little money, they run off to a white neighborhood, bussiness etc. THEY DON’T WANT YOU THERE.

Harlem New York, back in the day was a nice black community with beautiful brownstones with great architecture details, the type of details you don’t find often in today’s buildings (unless you pay for it dearly). Well, through the years the area became rundown, blacks living there did nothing to improve the area. Now, whites have sweep in bought up the buildings, cleaned up the neighborhoods, real estate values have increased, now it’s beautiful and a desirable place to live again.

Vision, people, you’ve got to have vision, because white people don’nt want you in their neighborboods and their businesses. They want your money but they don’t want you. We need to generate the money we spend back through our own communites. Black people spend a lot of money, stop making other people rich.

Was probably just a dress code issue.

LOL @ KENNEDY
YOU KNOW WHATS UP LOL!

DA HONSET TRUTH!
DA HONEST TRUTH IS I DONT REMEMBER BEEFING WITH YOU UNLESS YOUR MY OL NEMISES …..LOL,SHHH I WONT SAY NOTHING, BUT WE GOOD SIS !

@TXhustla

So are you saying that it would have happened eventually regardless of how our president looks?

@DA HONEST TRUTH
NUFF RESPECT!

maybe their pants were just too baggy or sagging too low. some clubs/bars DO have dress codes…I usually call a place about a dress code BEFORE I go there. *shrugs*

@Oh Well…

I’m from St. Louis and from what I heard on the radio stations, they did call this place and discussed that they would have a group of people attending as a class trip. The school that they attended is a sterotypical rich, white school and it’s right under being considered ivy league. The establishment likey thought that the students would ‘appear’ differently. And, as the post states, a black student changed clothes with a white student and the white student got in. I don’t know if these two students had the same build where the pants would appear the same, but that in itself is rather disturbing…

WIFE YOU HERE? I LOVE YOUR POSTS ,.. MY SUCH EDUACATION YOU HAVE MY LOVE…I TAUGHT YOU WELL, LOL…RIGHT!?

Glok
LoL, thanks my honey, BUT that’s all me up there. I work alone hubby! LMAO

hope lawyers shut mother down

This is an everyday thing here in most parts Europe……

Black and Arab folks never get in regular clubs unless it’s an all black owned club or some ish….Phew!

This type of thing happens all the time in Lansing, Michigan… Yes there are still are a bunch of racist/cowardly people in the U.S.A….

We helped build this country, and everybody but us can dress how they please… Muslims, Jews, Chinese, everymuthakinbody but us culture is accepted….

Glok
Meet me in the bedroom… In 5,4,3,2….NOW

Of course it was a Black thing.This is CHICAGO , now. One of the most racist cities in this country – period.

I went to Mother’s about 20 years ago with a friend who was denied entrance because he didn’t have on a shirt with a collar. Chicago area bars are notorious for keeping blacks out of their establishments. Remember Oprah’s restaurnant, Michale Jordan and Walter Payton’s all had white folks running the show and would discriminate against blacks. So I am not surprised, it is still going on!

What I don’t understand is that if you look at the photo of the white student who changed jeans and went back into the bar, there is an African American standing at the bar having a drink directly behind him.

elektrikeccentrik

Racism isn’t going anywhere. Obama’s presidency is not and will not change much of anything in that aspect. We don’t have time to worry about racism with other races when we must battle the racism in our own community.

___________________________________________________
You hit it right on the nail….PREACH ON!!!

Mother’s has always been a racisist establishment. I say the hell with them. If we would stop shooting one another at the club because someone stepped on your shoes maybe people wouldn’t be so afraid to party with you.

@bria

(Who Is really a white man)We should be afraid to party. Compulsive lynchers..

The only issue I see here is black folks in 2009 trying to patronize businesses that wants nothing to do with us. We should have enough self respect to pull our resources and make a place for social gatherings ourselves.

If a business wants to re-institute Jim Crow laws let them, then we will know what we are truly dealing with and they won’t get our money.

I am not surprised I had a very similar experience. I was attending the State University on a Athletic Scholarship my teammate a I were denied entry at to Mothers while the white friends in our group were allowed in. They invoked the” no collared shirt rule” I left and returned with a collared shirt they told me they needed 5 picture id’s. I hope they shutem down!

They should change the name from ” Mother’s ”
to ” Muthas ” — cause that’s exactly what they are.

ok LAW again make excuses 4 the club.if the white boy got in white saggy jeans whats the differene,just like i said house negros always steppin on the soapbox 4 they massa.if u get turned away like i said dnt go whining 2 the press.lol

[...] [...]

It happened to me about 8years ago. They told me my pockets were too low!

To all those who deny it’s racist, the same thing has been going on on Division Street for over 30 years. Yes, the clubs do and admit Blacks, but they had a quota. Years ago a friend and I went to a club across the street from Mother’s. My friend left his wallet in his car fearing it might get stolen and just brought his license. I carry a license & a state ID. When we got to the club they wanted two forms of ID. We knew it was because we were black. We went to a club next door & a got a white girl with ONE ID to attempt to get in. They let her in. Once @ Mother’s a friend of mine who is now a lawyer didn’t get in because he was two or three inches taller than his ID indicated he had grown. Some of the tricks the clubs would use then were: Couples only, no entry without a collar, no duplicate ID ( if you’d lost yours it the new one would say duplicate ), no jeans ( when white ppl would be in the club with jeans on ).
They took a photo with the black guy in the jeans & a white guy. They fit the same. Stop denying the racism.

Welcome TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LAND OF FREEDOM SMH…

Dear this was truly a setback in race relations, so to speak, however, I’m a little confused. Why is there no uproar when blacks mercilessly and senselessly kill each other (and you do). Isn’t that self hatred and racism, when young blacks target other blacks for wearing certain colors or being from certain neighborhoods? Who speak on this atrocity? What’s the rule, “you can treat each other like shit, but everyone else must respect you?” Really, what happened to these young men is sad indeed, but the overall state of your black men is dire at best.

And darlings please forgive me for my profanity. It has been a long day indeed.

@everyone in here who is talking about any other race.
It’s ashame that racism still occurs black on white and white on black,it’s about to be 2010 and we still have to deal with this ish between racism and child abuse i’m so tired of hearing it.And it’s not only white against black either.Half ya’ll in here that are repling to this blog with racism look just as bad as the club owner/workers, just plain old ignorant.Why show your ignorance?I

I’m not going to reveal my race bc it really don’t matter but it’s just sick when I hear about race,I don’t know how everyone else was raised but my mom taught me that race don’t matter accept ppl for who they are,and judge them on how they treat you.Now my children are biracial and I just want them to grow up and be accepeted by everyone black/white.It’s ppl like these white ppl who are prejudice and these black ppl who are prejudice who make it hard for our children growing up in this day and age bc as long as you have the least bit prejudice inside of you your just carrying on the past it’s time to let it go of racism and move forward we have bigger issues to worry about and here’s half of America worrying about race.SMH

Good let that be a lesson to the stupid mofo’s who want to look thug but yet attend college, but yet go to white bars to listen to white music. I have never been denied entry to a nightclub because of improper dress. Sagging is a major joke that was pulled on black people, along with gold grills and gangster rap. Yet we are still falling for that same joke. Here’s a thought, your education and intelligence level can probably be determined by your dress code and speech habits. THINK ABOUT THAT MY PEOPLE.

Maybe the white student was heavier than the Black student, so when they switched pants, they weren’t baggy on him….

I live in Chicago often find my law school friends of the lighter persuasion (i.e. white) dragging me into this dump. First and foremost Mother’s does -NOT- have a strict dress code there is nothing classy or exclusive about this sweatbox. But, I’m not surprised they turned away a group of black people
::smh::

You will see this sort of thing happening more and more. Wake up. n*ggers! People in this country are tired of n*ggers and they are fed up!

I am not surpised. There was a club in my city that was reufsing to let one of my friends in because he had a damn tiny rocca wear logo on his sweater. This guy was dressed neatly in khakis and a blue sweater with a tiny white rocca wear logo on the left breast. Me and him were the only two black people out of our group of friends that night. After the big burly body gaurd denied him entry, my friend Matt offered John a t-shirt he had in the back of his trunk. The bodyguard said that those werent permitted either. I blew threw the roof. I told him i’d be writing a formal letter to the Rocca Wear clothing company informing them that there are night clubs discrminating against the clothing brand and what it stands for. I also stated the fact that while waiting along the side lines, i had seen four guys walk in with branded articles of clothing, not to mention the numerous barely dressed women that were showing off eveeeeerrything! One blond walked in with booty shorts on. Oops, i mean boy shorts. You know ladies, the kind you wear to bed!!! I was livid, i told him that my friend was better dressed than damn near everyone in that palce. John stood by and listened to me rant and rave, looking worried and defeated. See, he was a quiet preppy boy who had just finished grad school and was now working as a assistant chief engineer for a major company. My friend John was the opposite of the character that the body gaurd tried to associate him with. Well safe to say, that night i wasnt allowed entry into the club either!! The body gaurd said i was not the kind of patron the club needed. Ha! I walked away with my dignity. And told him there would be no patrons in that biased, played out music, skank hole of a club when im through. About a year later the owner filed bankrupcy and had to close down. God dont like ugly….