Question Of The Day: Is Black Face OK When Tyra Banks’ Show Does It???
Posted by Bossip Staff
We have been faced with the black face issue a few times recently. Your girl Tyra just did a show with black face on ANTM and we want to know how you feel about it:
Continuing the resurgence of a makeup practice long considered taboo, “America’s Next Top Model” featured a number of models painted with dark makeup to resemble bi-racial women.
On the episode, which aired last night (Oct. 28), host Tyra Banks said the goal was to create an editorial celebration of the immigrants who relocated to Hawaii to work as sugar cane farmers in the mid-19th century.
Banks tasked models with interpreting exotic racial combinations like “Russian-Moroccan” and “American Indian-Egyptian,” photographing them herself in the green reeds of a sugar plantation on the island of Maui. The models — Jennifer An, Nicole Fox, Laura Kirkpatrick, Sundai Love, Brittany Markert and Erin Wagner — were styled and then sent to makeup, where each was painted with varying degrees of dark body makeup to match the perceived skin tone of the corresponding race they were conveying.
This is the second time models have been shown in dark makeup in recent weeks. French Vogue photographed model Lara Stone in blackface for its October issue, which was particularly disturbing because the offending pictures were part of an issue celebrating models, but had nearly a black model in the magazine.
Instead, they chose to paint a blonde model black in a botched attempt to squeeze out a drop of artistic diversity. Currently, out of “America’s Next Top Model’s” six remaining contestants, one is black, one is Asian and four are Caucasian. The show started out with four black models in a group of 14.
What do you think? We don’t think Tyra should delve into this either, but maybe getting over this issue can be done when seen from a black perspective. Do you think the show did that?
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Oh an no it’s not ok Tyra no better…..
White people make ugly black people. Leave nature alone….You want black face then hire a black Chick!!
Tyra is a pain in my Black *****. She’s such a weirdo. Who even thinks of this *****? Oh, I wonder what an Jamaican Eskimo looks like. She has an obsession with color and hair. She needs to go sit her boney ankled- wrinkled finger ***** down somewhere.
Idk, I Never Saw It As A Problem Unless A Person Was Doing It To Be Ignorant.
The Pictures Were Nice Though. Lol.
Like Paul Mooney said, “Everybody wanna be a *****, but don’t wanna BE a *****.”
It’s not a serious issue, so please stop trying to make it into one.
She is not mocking or making fun of anyone.
I don’t think this is ever ok! What is the point?
We already have a lack of blacks in tha model game and we need more dark skin models black is beautiful tha blacker tha berry bigger tha caboose its 007.5 *****
AGREE WITH LALA!
IT IS NOT THAT SERIOUS…IT WAS NOT PORTRAYED ON THE SHOW TO MOCK A BEHAVIOR STEROTYPING BLACKS…… ALSO BOSSIP REMEMBER THE MOVIE WHITE CHICKS!!! – ENOUGH SAID.
why not get the real deal
I agree with C.R.E.A.M…..
hire a black chick!!!
im free…
It wasn’t done in poor taste you know with a black face and big white lips or anything,and I am not offended, BUT if anybody is looking for a certain genetic combination, they aint going get it from a can of paint. The whole damn this is moot.
Tyra is good at coming up with dumb stuff thats why they pay her the big bucks.
Bossip it was art!!! They turned women of all races into two different ethnicities at once. That is not even close to being considered blackface. Blackface is just that, a face painted black!!! Put the race card back in your overly sensitive pocket! BTW, I’m black in case you thought otherwise. SMH…
REMEMBER THE MOVIE WHITE CHICKS!!! – ENOUGH SAID.
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OK, but the story-line of white chicks was that the two black FBI men were to go undercover and protect them two blond white chicks. aint no body going undercover to protect no one when it comes to models…they just DO IT.
anywho….
no one can really hate on them as they are just paid to do their jobs whereas the designers and “artists” who promote them come up with their own ideas and fow whatever reasons they choose to colour white people in black, there is ***** all that we can do about it. they dont give a ***** about bias
i don’t consider these pics to be “black face”. black face is the charcoal face with huge lips and stupid facial expressions, etc. these pics can be anyone on the streets who just wear entirely too much makeup. i think tyra can come off as plastic too but i’m not jumpin on the bandwagon with this one!
Everybody wanna be like us, can you blame them?? Even at our worst…we canot be out~shined. I Love yall ignant a$$es.
@ Rihanna’s sharp n pointy witchy fingernails took the oath
id love to see a jamaican eskimo or hows about an aboriginal mongol or a south african celt…hmmm
I dont see what the problem is. She had a black model and she was made up as well…it was about MODELING not the portrayal of any one race or group. She wanted to know if the girls could do high fashion…I enjoyed the show last night. Bossip is always trying to start something…
Tyra’s an *****!!!! There’s never enough black women on ANTM that’s why I don’t watch that ISH!!!!
i don’t think what tyra did was wrong..she has been diverse and inclusive from the beginning.
if the fashion industry was also inclusive and diverse, then we could see art and beauty in imitation, but only adding a few tokens isn’t embracing beauty–it’s meeting quotas to not appear prejudice
I think it is done in good taste~~! and for the record i am not going anywhere , imposters or not i will be up in this ***** till i get ready to fold~! Z, i see you are impostered all the time up in here and anybody that wants to argue with my imposter (who must have a problem wih you ) to use my name to get at you! So be it! My properties match with what i have on my click on and SN, if anybody doesnt check it then more power to you~! You would think a person would have sense to know all of a sudden one comes out of pocket on you and never has… uh well maybe that must be a imposter!! And from the looks of it most of these folks who have been on for a while have been impostered> What the fudge do i look like talking about somebody kid, thats not my damn style~! ????
black ppl need to stop thinking that they’re the only minoritites, the only group of ppl that have been discriminated against. this doesnt even have that much to do w/ blacks. get over it. its a great idea. this isnt even really black face. this is bossip starting bullshyt
Bossip trying to start ***** again.
Like they really give a hoot.
Tyra’s an *****!!!! There’s never enough black women on ANTM that’s why I don’t watch that ISH!!!!
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You must dont watch the show…they have some black models that actually won….5 outta 13 aint bad…
Eva
Naima
Danielle (even tho they changed her name to Dani:()
Saleisha
And I think Jaslene is Puerto Rican…not black but she’s ‘ethnic’
And Sundai (the girl from this season) could win if she step her game up she’s not doing much for the cameras but she’s still holding on…
not feelin it….I don’t see the point honestly. I agree just get black models there are plenty out there.
I think it is silly.. and if they really want the full effects of being African American.. Tell’em to wear those faces to the mall.. and walk in a major department store with a big purse. Then and only then will they know… how real it is being an African American female. It is foreign TO THEM.. they can not.. even relate. But being discriminated against really hurts.. Especially when you’ve got money to spend and never considered stealing..
I think it is fine. That blonde haired/blue eyed ***** is no longer the universal epitome of beauty. Instead of them lightening us up and putting colored contacts in our eyes they are “beautifying” these broads with some melanin and whatever else. Stop being so overly offended, people.
Speaking of Tyra.. I resent the fact that she always gets guest on her couch and then insults and interogate them. I am surprised her show has lasted this long. Her topics are corny and juvenile. She does not even know how to ask an open ended question.. I bet her attorney boyfriend just like to look at her.. I can only imagine what their conversations are like.. She cool.. but I just don’t like to see her humiliate her guest because of her poor people and communication skills..
Tyra is a first cl***** fool. So not a fan.
Black Face was degrading to Black people. Literally black (not brown or taupe) make-up with big red lips were applied to white people to make fun of us.
We do it to white people all the time.
Its funny, but when Dave Chappelle does it, or If Marlon and Shawn Wayans does it, its funny or comedic.
This was tastefully done. So no I dont find it offensive.
most people said it all. tyra is oushing the line with this one/\/\/\/\/\
I guess most of the people on here did not watch the show…all of the girls were made to biracial and it did not include black races each and every time. Get ur facts straight Bossip and the rest of these people. It was all done in good taste and the pics were beautiful.
Please understand none of the models were portraying an African American woman
They were Mexican, Russian, Bangladesh, Native American, East Indian, Brazilian…
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I watched the show, and Tyra and the ANTM girls are not only white girls. The models are black, white, asian, etc., and each girl was spray painted to represent a mixed race from another country. I didn’t see anything wrong. The girls enjoyed seeing how they would look being another race and I viewed it as art. I actually enjoyed the show.
you guys are idiots..thats not black face..black face is when white ppl paint their faces black and do coonish dances and whatnot to make fun of Blacks. This here is not what they are doing nor is that what they did in Italian Vogue. They are not making fun of Black ppl. Eddie murphy dressed up as white men before and the wayans did white girls in Whick chicks..no issue her so bossip and others, stfu for once…PLEASE!
Aw, I would feel honored to be envied like that!! Why else would you do it, right?? Liek that group that did the Jackson 5
yall are late…she DID THE SAME THING in a previos season via a Milk ad for the girls – each was created ANOTHER nationality AND blackface was used then too. grow the fugg up bossip and get MORE up to date articles…. ugh
I saw the show last night, and that is NOT considered black face you idiots!!! She was obviously portraying people of mixed races in a clean, beautiful, fashionable and artistic way, anybody who watched that show and got offended is an idiot!
THE OTHER THING IS… THEY DIDN’T EVEN PORTRAY ANNNNYYYYYY AFRICAN AMERICANS, IT WAS NATIVE AMERICANS, INDIANS, POLYNESIANS, RUSSIANS… OMG THIS IS SO STUPID!
I don’t think it was done in poor taste, but if this becomes the norm there will be even more black models out of work. This industry already has a lack of black models. Tyra please don’t do this again, there are real black models wanting to work!!!!
What Tyra did on the show is not Blackface. Blackface included mockery, the promotion of sterotypes and degredation of the african american culture, people, and experience. What Tyra did was in no way shape or form Blackface.
Ummm Joni baby they were not portraying BLACK women so the black models will still be outta work…
whats the point of all these …….SMDH
this is not the first time ANTM did this…..they did it before for the got milk ad…I dont remember yall making a fuss about it then.
and i agree with brilly
I think there are better ways to celebrate the beauty of human diversity. How about get real Egyptian, Malaysian, Cablasian or whatever the heck people & let them work it. No need to create imposters. It never comes off right. It’s like costume jewelry, fake as H E Double hockey sticks!
It’s actually getting quite funny to see how far this fool will go to increase the ratings of her shows.
She don’t care what it takes, or who its offends.
If she had any real talent or imagination she wouldn’t have to stoop as low as she usually does to attract viwers by controversy only.
Be gone already.
First of all this is a non subject when it comes to ANTM last night. For the stupid people who spend all their time hatin on Tyra Banks won’t your sad sorry behinds get a show and run it like you want too. Bossip when you stop making your name off of the success of people like Tyra Banks then maybe what you have to say would mean something.
OOHHH GIVE IT A REST! HER INTENTIONS WERE NOT THAT AT ALL- STOP CREATING AN ISSUE THAT’S NOT EVEN THERE! BESIDES THIS ISN’T THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS DONE AND IT WAS DONE IN GOOD TASTE!
Honestly, I saw nothing wrong with the ANTM episode because it was celebrating diversity and people of multicultural heritage. In oppose to the incident that occurred in Australia, Tyra and ANTM was not trying to convey buffoonery or humiliate anyone. These photographs were simply aimed to acknowledge the multicultural presence in Hawaii. For the sake of the show, the producers probably didn’t have time or the money to find models with specific background. Plus, the photos were tastefully done.
hell no…tyra should be judged just like the rest…. y do we put her and oprah on a pedestal? they dnt speak 4 us..hell sharpton or jesse jackson dont even speak 4 us….we really dnt have a voice
Ummm @Mrs. Philly,
Do you know where’s Botswana, Morocco, and Madagascar? Yeah, those countries are located in Africa–plenty of Black folks live there. Plus, Tyra wanted to expose other cultures outside of the U.S.A.
*blinking*
This is not blackface.
I agree with many….this is not the same as the blackface done by that group in Australia that Harry Connick jr. walked out on.
In fashion, what Tyra has done is not uncommon and I am not offended by it. Just as I was not offended by the Vogue spread.
There’s art and then there is pure buffonery and you need to be wise enough to know the difference.
Wise up, Bossip!
@BOSSIP…..so why show pict of the Kardashian’s?
Instead of transformng non traditional models, they could have found authentic models, ones from exactly those races, to represent the true beauty of that culture, instead of what I feel is making a mockery of it. True, modeling is all fun and games and dress-up, but there are lots of people who take their heritages seriously, (like me) and want a TRUE spokesperson or someone of true beauty of that culture to represent them as real, not fake…touchy issue for me, sorry… same thing goes for making Beyonce look white. No disrespect but that broad has color…
I swear man. You can’t even SNEEZE nowadays without people being offended by it. If you find the concept of these pictures offensive and calling it “black face” then you are taking it way too seriously.
I hate the way this society thinks sometimes. People (of all races) are just so damn uptight. People need to stop crying racism over EVERY LITTLE THING, just because they think they can. Man, there are people out here that do heinous, hateful, hard-core racist things…and people are calling THIS racist? Calm it down.
I think Tyra had a different intention in mind. The other recent instances of blackface were under different cir*****stances. Also, this is not the first time ANTM has done this…it’s only getting “attention” now because of the other recent controversial occurrences. I watched last night and found it tasteful and not at all offensive.
This is not Black face. Nor is this the first time that Tyra has done an ANTM photoshoot using make up to alter the skin tones of women of several races…Why is it that this is an issue now and not way back around season 4 when she first did? Anyway, I wasn’t a big fan of the Vogue shoot. The skin was dark but the eyes, the lips, the nose…they bore no resemblance to that of black women. my nose is found, my lips are full. I don’t have blue/green eyes. It was carried out in a cl*****y fashion but unlike Tyra’s photoshoot, there was no variation in race. Tyra’s shoot showed just how different we are and just how different we aren’t at the same time.
I appreciate all 3 shoots (Vogue, yesterday’s episode and the past season) as art and find them both beautiful and intriguing.
i do agree with copelli21 though. Ive been a model and watched the game change dramatically from late 80’s until now, and modeling is supposed to be more realistic now to represent “real” people. I guess some things will never change in the face of social advertisement or worldwide representation of people that barely exist. Hell, they even alter the damn near what you would call “perfect” models.
And, for the record NONE of these women are supposed to be portraying african-americans.
oh well
trya is an idiot anyway
I liked it. Truthfully, I thought some of the models on ANTM last night looked better with darker skin.
Tyra has to come up with unique shoots in order to keep the show interesting. in fact, she did a shoot very similar to this a few years ago, so this is not the first time she went there.
As for the black face in the magazines, I think that is stupid for the simple fact that there are not enough black models in major magazines, so to paint a white model to look like a black woman is kinda silly. Actually, in my eyes, it comes across as mocking the outcry of black models in the industry.
I agree w/ most others. What Tyra did was in no way black face. Apparently, some people need to research the history of the term…
I just find its about representation of something. i didnt think she as being racist at all, but tons of people find it that way. I could care less about racism because it aint going anywhere, and in agreeance with someone else, there are far more things to worry about like people doing serious hate crimes because of race other than worrying about an artist or photographer altering appearances. people do that in everyday life…
no matter the skin tone, blackface is ALWAYS right on time !!!
MAMMY, HOW I LUV YA HOW I LUV YA, MY DEAR OL’ MAMMY !!
Tyra can get the ***** all day and night if in that black wig..
SASHA FLOP
black people are idiots.
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Bossip you need to stop. I saw the show last night and it was nothing like what you are trying to make it out to be. And for all you Tyra haters. Stop hating on the girl because she working to make a positive impact on these girls trying to become models. At least she’s doing something and you haters aren’t doing anything but hating. You go Tyra, do you!
All this is ART IN THE WORLD OF BEAUTY!
That’s some sort of bronzer from the mac make-up line. Hell i even put that on my face in the summer to give myself a glow or bronze look. Btw, im a high yellow black women. So personally she was not making fun, even black women were that shade of makeup.
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While the French Vogue editorial did come off as offensive, this isn’t even slightly offensive to me. They were celebrating the beauty of different races.
this is offensive only because such cultural mixes like this do not happen in the real world. and the outfits didnt rep the country came off as costume and not even the high fashion look she was looking for. plese there is no way an indian person would mix with a native american ever.
they do not look so sgreat
Has anybody seen 1 Tru?? Tell her to meet me in the Bloomberg thread round 4:15PM, thanks!!
This is what we call desperate attempt to save a dying show. Plain and simple.
the reason why the different top model shows like top model germany are so popular in other countries is because they look for girls with real model potential. hey last season german’s next top model crowned a beautiful black girl of ethiopan descent and she is making waves in the fashion world. tyra chooses girls for entertainment purpose thats whyno one from her show is an actual real top model. america’s top model are girls like chanel iman and sessilee lopez they are it girls in the fashion industry. tyra’s girls do a bit of print wwork nothing major money making then do reality shows or acting.
Just because you are brown skin does not make you a black person. She did american indian. How does being american indian imply you are black because your skin tone is darker? I am cuban and i am dark skin and I will never claim i am african american or in other words black. People need to stop being ignorant and realize we come in all colors from different races. My mother’s side of thw family is brazilian and people often mistake them for black. But you have to realize we are dark skin too. Im nit ashamed of my color and it doesnt mKe me any better than a white person. Get over it. Tyra is an artist! Yall just wish this was your idea!
You need to be careful with comparisons.Films like “white chicks” which is superficial entertainment cannot be compared to “blackface”which was part of institutionalized, systemic racism.Vogue was plain wrong.
As for Tyra’s show,don’t be hypocrites.The principle is the same and some people took issue with the “lightened” photos of Beyonce in the L’Oreal ads.
Keeping it real.
After observing the behavior of tyra banks for years I believe she is very self hating and insecure about who she is. It’s too bad because i think she is very pretty but she does not really appreciate what she us.
no, it’s not ok when Tyra does it either…
unacceptable practice
zoey if you are darker skin u are balc kbalck is not a nationality so u cnat just call urself cuban or brazilian you need to realize ur black. alot of dark skin latians struggle with the fact that they are black. shoot my family is mixed black east indian spnish but guess what i’m still black and will never deny it. american indian is not black but the majority of cubans are.
This not the first season Tyra has done this…
@Zoey news flash, they dropped african slaves off in south america too… thats where the dark skin comes from.
You guys are late Bossip , Tyra has done the black face before a couple of seasons ago . Get over it!
Bossip is always talkin sh*t! its educational, and its not blackface (in my opinion), because people from over there are dark anyway! get a CLUE!!!
It was tastefully done, very artistic!!!
all i have to say is that this is not the first show that she has had the contestants play someone of another race in a photo shoot. its a photo shoot people!!!! its not like she was trying to be disrespectful to anyone.i know racism and bigotry still exsist but not every thing should be turned into a war.
ya starting to turn me off Bossip with some of ya post. stop starting trouble!!!
It is what it is – Tyra and her producers doing their damnedest to strike the proverbial nerve amongst viewers and stir up controversy. Bossip, you’re guilty of it too so don’t be THAT black kettle. On any given day, using ‘blackface’ as a ploy to increase viewership is pretty gully. And tasteless. Kiss my fat *****, Tyra.
This is not black face Bossip, you need a history lesson *****to.
It’s not that sserious shoot I would love to see how I would look as a white or hispanic person for a few minutes. It could be a fun experience.
THE BLACKER THE BERRY THE SWEETER THE JUICE.
Why did all those white chicks look soooooooooooo much better darker with ethnic hair. And when they took it off, BORING. LOL I think Tyra secretly did this to prove a point. Or maybe she made a point by accident but I think some of those chicks will be spray painting themselves on the DL
BTW this does not work in reverse, sistas you look a hot ***** mess with light contacts and blond weaves, yes all of you regardless of skin tone. When you are dark you look possessed(P Diddy Momma), brown you look like the hooker in “Car Wash”(Mary J) and actually the lighter you are the worse it gets, (Tiny, Faith) as blonds you look like albino vampires
@ Zoey you said “My mother’s side of the family is brazilian and people often mistake them for black.”
Do you think that some of your family members are “mistaken” for Black because someone in your family tree “mistakenly” screwed someone with African blood? (roll eyes) Can we please educate ourselves about African travel before and during slavery, there are descedents of Africans in Panama, Cuba, Brazil and other places that have more untained African blood than many African-Americans who are actually a very mixed ethnic group.vPeople always act like African-Americans just popped off a cotton plant in the USA. No, we are the descendents of Africans just like our counterparts in other places all over the world. Just like you Zoey, dark skin and tight curled hair come from Africa and there is only one way you gonna get that, unless you have Tyra hook you up.
I don’t find anything offensive, Blackface is something completely different. It involves black make up and white/red makeup outside of the lips. There is nothing done to demean any peoples. People need to chill the hell out.
Ladies…ladies calm down, grow up, and move on. There’s bigger fish in life to fry. Don’t get stuck on things that don’t matter of effect YOUR life. P***** some love around!!!
Bossip Staff Members,
Wanna Be Starting Something???? PEACE OUT!!!!!!!
In case someone didn’t already say this:
GET THE F*CK OUT OF HERE!
You mean to tell me that of all the issues black folks have yall are spending even an ounce of effort on this dumb sh*t?
Blackface was created to mock blackness. That most certainly is not what Tyra is doing. And what was the point of saying there is only one black model left? Are you implying the show is racist? There have been 3 black winners that I can think of off the top of my head. Do all the black models have to make it to the end to satisfy people? Yall are f*ckin crazy with this mess.
BOSSIP YOU DO REALISE THAT ON ANTM TYRA HAS DONE A SIMILAR SHOOT, IN SEASON 4.
FOR THE GOT MILK AD SHE SWAPPED ALL OF THE GIRLS ETHNICITIES!
Y’ALL TRY 2 START CRAP FROM NOTHING!
FIND SOMETHING REAL/TRUE 2 TALK ABOUT!
I don thnk it was a problem b4 its 2009….move on *****es
To the comments directed at me. If you clearly read my comment it says when I refer to black I am referring to african american. Yes my skin tone is dark. It is filled with olive tones. But does this mean I am considered an anfrican american. No! For one I am not even American. Two ya’ll need to stop equating every person with the african american culture. So you guys mean to tell me that people from Morocco are african americans too even though they are dark skin? Yea right! Do YOUR research! Think about how many times you think a latina is black because she could p***** for a light skin black girl. Does that imply she is african american because she can p*****? No! I guesss you all will start thinking persians are black light skin women too. Please! Not everyone has african in them people. I said my mother’s family is mistaken for black because people think they are light skin. There is nothign wrong with claming you are african or caucasian or fillipino etc. But stop equating black to eevryone!
I don’t think this is the same thing- she is not making fun of a race or this is not meant to be humorous or magnify a certain sterotype- it is showing beauty, so that is why it is acceptable
i feel you Zoe
She’s done this on previous ANTM shows.
This is not the first time Tyra has done this. She has done this before there was all the drama behind it. Check back a couple of seasons.
If you don’t watch the show, don’t talk about what you don’t know and that goes to YOU too Bossip!
Here’s where us Blacks need to use common sense. Tyra’s photo shoot was cl*****y. It wasn’t meant as a joke like the black faces done by whites to be ignorant. I doubt any intelligent black person would see this as an issue.
Tyra u should be FIRED!!!!!!!! A WHITE host or hostess sure would be. A WHITE man can’t make a comment giving praise to the BLACK athletes without being fired…(and it’s been done). WHY ARE U DIFFERENT? Because your BLACK!!!!!!!! This is pure DISCRIMINATION at it’s best!!!!!!!!
it doesn’t matter! just because tyra does it on her show doesn’t mean she validates it!
Coming from a racist website this makes me LOL