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that ish is effed up…man.. i hope she is ok..but damn in front of the children…

QUEEN PEN!! WHOO…Haven’t heard that name in a minute!! Wow!

Dude is a b*tch @$$ n*gga…you never beat on women and certainly not in front of the children. They throwing bricks through the windshield? Ole Boy needs to get on…faggot @$$ n*gga!

I don’t feel sorry for her. In fact I feel sorry for him. This is not the 50s and woman are not victims they once were. Most men don’t go around punching women in the face. What you never hear is where her responsibility lies. Oh I forgot. She has none. Only the bad man. No one like being hit or abused and that includes men. You just won’t find them playing the victim or calling the police. I’m sure he’ll pay the price for their dysfunction.

Damn Juicy got that nicca CRAZY. She needs a 45 with hollow points…STAT!

That’s soo messed up, I just get the feeling that this is not the first time he hit her, she definitely needs a better man.

tg, WOW, you sound like a damn fool!! This is the 21st century and not only are some women being abused by men…but killed!! Last summer one of my sister’s best friends was murdered by an ex…and in talking to different people, it’s amazing how many also had stories of domestic abuse or murder.

Sure there’re a small percentage of men getting their asses kicked by women, and that’s not right either. However, for you to post such idiocy tells me that either you’ve been down that road before or are simply a misogynistic punk.

It is stated in the article that this is not the first time he hit her.

But ex-boyfriend? What happened to her marriage? I remember she was in Sister 2 Sister magazine w/ wedding pictures and everything a few years back. How many kids do she have? I’m not blaming her for getting beat but she really needs to get herself together. She goes from man to man – and stay having a baby by a dude. She has at least 4 babby daddies. It’s like she is afraid to be alone.

Maybe she needs to move out of Flatbush for starters.

I heard on the Jamie Foxx show and she said this has been going on since the early 90′s. When I listened to the interview it sounded like they did this stupid sh*t back and fourth to each other she talked about slashing his tires and beating up his female friends. So just maybe they both are nuts and need help.

@ TG:

Please. Why couldn’t he just walk away if it was like that. That is her ex so obviously she was trying to move on from him. Possessive @$$ n*ggas just don’t know how to let it go and move on. If her mouth was crazy why not just leave until cooler heads prevail. Yes it is his fault for putting his hands on her. A real man knows when to say enough is enough. And i guess it is also okay that the children got to witness their mother being beat up by their pops (for the ones who are biologically his) and by their mom’s ex. That is cool too. So that these kids can begin to learn that this life is okay huh? I guess you don’t know about the cycle of violence.

WHAT IF THIS WAS YOUR MOTHER/SISTER/AUNT? IS IT OKAY FOR THEM TO GET THEIR @$$ES BEAT OR WOULD YOU AND YOUR UNCLES AND WHATEVER NOT SLAUGTHER THE FAGGOT?

You need to shut the f*ck ip on this one.

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Ok! Who in the hell is Queen Pen?

This story is for all those women who claim they want a “thug.”

tg102-you must be a woman beater. Sounds like you are making a lame ass excuse and justification for hitting a woman.

I don’t care what Queen Pen has done to him, there is no excuse for him to beat her down like a she’s n****a on the street, especially in front of their kids. Hell no.

i didn’t know Queen Penn had a GRAMMY, let alone 5 children!!!!.. wtf?!!

Domestic Violence is bad!

My mother’s best friend spent seven years in prison for shooting her husband for beating her. The judge gave her seven years because he told her that this was her fault because she CHOSE a loser and she should have left a long time ago. It shouldn’t have to come to someone’s death for her to change things.

Men should never hit women, but also, women should never take an argument in that direction and put their fingers in men’s faces or try to push them around.

I am man and if I ever get the feeling I want to punch out a chick I’m supposed to be feelin then it means I walk away. Certain personality types just dont mix, I aint mad. IMO Niccas that hit women most times is insecure & cant stand the thought of another man rutting and ramming up in what they think belongs to them only. No true self-worth. Dudes like this are some sorry azzz niccas. When one door closes, another opens. Knowledge is Power.

Queen Pen? Grammy??? WTF!!! Is there a store that sells these things???

oh gross, I have her shoes.

@ Son of Baldwin…

I concur.

I just had to sign on and read SMDH comments on this. I’m goingto checklater for CC’s comments. I know she’s going to bring it for real.

Queen Penn, you and your children are in my prayers. May you embrace the strength to overcome.

A man should respect a woman and never hit her. A woman should respect a man and not step to him in a physical fight sort of way.

Keep it verbal and civil. The moment you get physical with a man, even one who would never hit a woman, you’ve crossed a boundary, and certain men may not have that same respect for you.

And obviously, if you man has a problem with his fists, call the damn police, stop protecting these people.

Ok, I remember her.. but what Grammy did she win and for what?

Fill me in

Queen Pen ought to find herself a good woman.

The report says nowhere where she was up in his face. I was just making a general statement. The report makes it clear that this guy should be in jail.

SOME MEN CAN BE SPINELESS. YES IT IS TRUE THAT SOME WOMEN CAN PROVOKE A MAN. BUT A MAN IS A MAN REGARDLESS, AND HAS MORE STRENGTH THAN A WOMAN. IF SHE’S PISSING YOU OFF TO THAT DEGREE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LEAVE. I HATE TO SEE IT HAPPEN. I DESPISE A VIOLENT MAN. AND THEYRE LUCKY THEY DONT RUN INTO WOMEN LIKE SOME OF THE ONES IN MY FAMILY. CAUSE WE BELIEVE IN THAT “WHATEVER AINT NAILED DOWN, YOU GET RIGHT UPSIDE THE HEAD” THEORY. KNOW YOU CANT BEAT A MAN HANDS UP, BUT REMEMBER YOUR WAY TO THE KITCHEN, IS ALL IM SAYING.

@SMDH

I not going to say he was right in anyway, but if you had heard her do a interview a few months back about he ex you would know that there is a lot more to this story.

Make better choices with who you date and mate with ladies. This woman has multiple children with multiple men/losers (in most cases) is a recipe for disaster…Yeah, this asshole should be put to sleep, but she also has some accountability in this passion play. You only get one life – MAKE BETTER LIFE DECISIONS!

DAM SHE WAS FINE BACK IN THA DAYS WONDER WHA SHE DID TO OLE BOY FOR HIM TO GET TA FLASHIN LIKE THAT

http://WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC

I GOT DEM GHETTO KNOCKS

“I not going to say he was right in anyway, but if you had heard her do a interview a few months back about he ex you would know that there is a lot more to this story.”

Alot more to the story like what?? Something that justifies a man beating a woman down like she were a man infront of her children??

SMDH!!!

Tough talking rapper??? PALEEZE. She tried too hard to copy lil kim’s style but nobody was buying it. Can you remember anything she did except that verse on that Black Street No Diggity joint. BUT ANYWAYS… Sorry to hear about this incident though!

@ SMDH

Uhhh, blackmen does not have the monopoly on domestic abuse, you idiot…So don’t use this forum as another one of your pulpits to villify blackmen. Calm down!

anyway I hope Pen leaves this jerk…

@SMDH

Like how she has admitted to slashing his tires before and beating up his girl friend. Oh and attacking him in front of the kids.

Thank you! Like when is it gonna stop. It is so bad now with domestic violence that I am worried about dating.

I’ll pray for Queen…

@ corperatecutieshayshay(Check me out!)

Well, you just prove my point. Thug-lovin’ has its’ cost. Make better decisions with who you lay up with.

I haaaaaaaaattteee men who beat women. They deserve to go to jail and have someone beat and abuse them. She needs to press charges and send him where he belongs. She got kids n she needs to set a better example than to be dealing with a man that abuses her.

This is something every women needs to have a Taser gun, don’t even let the man in your life know you have it. So if and when this fool start acting up you can send 350 volts of electricity through his ass. That will lay out a 400lb man and have him flopping like a fish out of water. Don’t ask me how I know I just know.

@i said it!!!

LMAO!

@ SMDH

You are FOOLISH, IGNORANT, and even if you are a person of color or not you are in fact a racist! I KNOW you don’t REALLY expect people to believe or even believe yourself that black men are the ONLY race of men hitting women. Sean Connery admitted to open-hand slapping his wife. So please stop the race antics. It’s childish and uninformed at best. Domestic violence is an EVERYONE and EVERYWHERE problem!

p.s. My boyfriend of 7 years does NOT HIT ME, my father (and yes black people do have fathers who are married to their mothers in case you missed that too)has NEVER put a hand on my mother, and my brother has NEVER laid a disrespectful hand on his girlfriend either so PLEASE DON’T TRY THAT “ALL BLACK MEN AREN’T S$%#” NONSENSE!

And just to note, the MOST DANGEROUS time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she tries to LEAVE! When you see most news cases of men murdering thier spouses, it usually is when she was trying to leave him.

@Marquis de Sade

It’s not just “thugs” who abuse women — the lack of self-control and issues with anger management exist among men of all classes and from various walks of life.

Here’s a sampling of some stats: African-American women experience intimate partner violence at rates 35% higher than their White counterparts and 2.5 times the rate of men and other races. Approximately 29.1% of African-American females experience intimate partner violence – rape, physical assault, or stalking – in their lifetime. Intimate partner homicide is the leading cause of death for African-American women ages 15 to 45.

@ SOSO Its the realist talk I ever spoke.

Let’s not personally attack the women who said she got beat and her teeth knocked out she’s lucky to be alive. All I would say to her or any women is there are warning sign to look out for. It’s not cute for your man to be questioning your every move or telling you what to wear how to look theses kind of things might be cute in the beginning, but are sign of an controlling and possessive person.

Essence magazine also ran an article a few years ago about domestic violence cases in Prince George’s County, the nation’s wealthiest predominantly black county. Here’s a link to a story with more data,

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/3028/

Wow, I’m surprised at all of the men using the Chris Rock reasoning “It might not be right, but I understand”. Even if Queen Pen was the instigator, and went upside his head first in every incident, 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Someone has to take the high road.

As far as leaving, that’s easier said than done in a lot of cases. I’m sure they have promised each other over and over again not to beat on each other, they believe one another, things go well for a while, then the next big blow up happens. Its a nasty cycle.

And someone mentioned “thugs”. Thugs come in all shapes and forms, including our “professional” brothers in suits. Those SOBs are the craziest of the crazy because they would NEVER take the hood route and go loco in public. They do their dirt in private where no one would believe they are hell on wheels.

That’s some real messed up $hit right there. I hope she gets her life back together.

@ Sydney & Corp.

Be it as it may, the signs were probably there to begin with. Most women tend to mistake that brutish behavior with virility instead of recognzing it for what it really is. Btw, there are degrees of thuggery. Stop playing the victim. Be more aware and alert to the signs. 9 times out of 10, they are there and your magic vajayjay won’t change him or the situation. I don’t buy into idea that “PRINCE CHARMING” can magically turn into an “ASSHOLE” in zero to sixty in 3 seconds…And correct me if i’m wrong, but Queen Pen had two children with this asshole. What does that say for her?

SMDH

who are you? You sound stupid, and you sound like you like getting your #SS beat! I feel sorry for her..YOU don’t know what she went/been through!

HOW can you feel sorry for a man that put his hands on someone that is weaker than him, and someone that has given birth to his two kids? DID your mom get her @ss kicked throughout your life time, or did she kick your helpless father #ss? which one?

I thought that Queen pen was gay? I guess not!

COOP

in that case..if what your saying is the truth

he still didn’t have a right putting his hands on her, and she should of got that ass beat by a real woman…because if i was his friend..first he shouldn’t let it get that far, but if it did..i wouldn’t back down..I don’t care if she is a lesbo, or not!

@Marquis de Sade

I don’t know the details of Queen Pen’s situation, and I agree that there are usually signs that precede physical violence, including emotional abuse, but, make no mistake, this is a crime, and women who are hit are victims. And a number of women who have seen the signs and have attempted to leave abusive relationships have been injured and/or killed — including those who have restraining orders. In the D.C. region, for example, there was a recent case of a sister (she appeared on Oprah) whose ex went to her job and set her on fire.

syndey

I saw that one! that was sad! oooh that burned me up!

White is Right why are you even on this site? Shouldn’t you be defending the Catholic religion for molesting millions of children all over the world or how about the Church of Morons? Shouldn’t you be in line trying to get your 20 children who are half retarded back from the state? Get the dick out of your ass for just a minute and take care of your own because with out YOU the white race is failing. What you gonna do when Obama paints the white house? I know you’re so hard behind that key board but in reality your nothing but a tap dancing straw chewing pink face.

sydney

@Ms. Sugar Walls

Hello, Ms. Walls, I missed the Oprah episode, but I read about her in the newspaper, and it was a very emotional story. I’m trying to find her name now — if I recall correctly, her ex poured gasoline on her and then set her on fire. It was a miracle that she survived. I think she has a daughter.

Smh.. I shoulda known this sh!t woulda been laced with ignorance. Its beyond me how idiots try to justify a man beating the daylights out of a female.. Jus ridiculous in my book.

@ Sydney

I realize what this asshole did was a crime and he should be put to sleep, but your statistics has a double-edged sword – What is it about african american women and their attraction to assholes? I’m sure there are a lot of respectful/responsible blackmen out there, but time and time again most black women tends to gravatate towards the jerks and assholes. Case in point, go to the Mariah/Nick Cannon thread and see how a large percentage of the womean refer to Nick as a “GOOBER” or “LOSER” just because he’s not tatted up, no criminal record, etc, etc. All i’m saying is that there is accountability on both parties sides.

I found her name — Yvette Cade. She also said in an interview that her ex would become violent every time she tried to leave. This is from a 2006 story: “Yvette Cade used to have a smooth mocha complexion and a figure that made men on the beach do a double take. But that was eight months ago, before her husband stormed into her workplace, threw gasoline on her and set her on fire. He was convicted in April of trying to kill her. Today, her face is covered in pink patches, and her arms, chest and back have thick coats of bumpy, coarse skin. Her days are spent in physical therapy struggling to recover movement.”

“who are you? You sound stupid, and you sound like you like getting your #SS beat! I feel sorry for her..YOU don’t know what she went/been through!

HOW can you feel sorry for a man that put his hands on someone that is weaker than him, and someone that has given birth to his two kids? DID your mom get her @ss kicked throughout your life time, or did she kick your helpless father #ss? which?”

Damn – I wish non educated n!ggas would learn to read!! If you had READ my comments instead of just running off at the neck – you would see that I am RESPONDING to someone elee who felt that way, namely Marquis de N!gger.. Learn to read.. I neversaid I condone n!gger boys beating on women.. I am FULLY against it!!!

SMDH!!

@Marquis de Sade

And I’m countering your argument by telling you that it’s sometimes the so-called “nice guy” who’s abusing his partner/wife behind closed doors, so you can’t generalize about whom these abusers are.

And if black women are attracted to a**holes, then so are white, Latino, and Asian women — domestic violence affects the lives of women of all races, classes, and walks of life. I don’t think anyone is disputing that there aren’t respectable men out there, but there are also cruel men who can hide their anger problems/predisposition to violence well.

“White is Right why are you even on this site? Shouldn’t you be defending the Catholic religion for molesting millions of children all over the world or how about the Church of Morons? Shouldn’t you be in line trying to get your 20 children who are half retarded back from the state? Get the dick out of your ass for just a minute and take care of your own because with out YOU the white race is failing. What you gonna do when Obama paints the white house? I know you’re so hard behind that key board but in reality your nothing but a tap dancing straw chewing pink face.”

Tell that to these black males running off putting whitey above his own, namely Becky!!! You can’t have it both ways, black male!!

What a pice of sh*t! I WISH I saw some dude putting his hand on a woman in front of me…

Both parties in an abusive relationship have an emotional imbalance. Some women ‘talk’ themselves into to thinking and believing that he’s hitting her because he loves her soo much and doesn’t know how else to show that emotion. It’s a twisted logic but that’s how they cope with the behavior.

I believe she won the Grammy for No Diggity with BlackStreet/Teddy Riley.

I wonder why they didn’t mention that she’s now an author..I have Blossom and it was ok.

She’s also relaeased Situations (haven’t read) and Infiltrator is coming soon supposedly.

@ Corp.

Am i typing in a foreign language? Not once did i condone what this asshole did!…But on the same token, i’m not going to sit here and let that psycho SMDH, villify all black men for the actions of a few assholes.

Good! She calls herself having a little piece of a career as a writer and is terrible I mean terrible. She also direspects other writers and is horrible at meet and greats. I hope he continues to whoop her ass for the rest of us.

@ SMDH

If all blackmen are so violent prone, then why aren’t you DEAD? If there is anyone who so deserves to be a victim of a ball peen hammer being imbedded into their skull, it’s YOU!

“If all blackmen are so violent prone, then why aren’t you DEAD? If there is anyone who so deserves to be a victim of a ball peen hammer being imbedded into their skull, it’s YOU!”

I’m probably managed to keep my “skull” cause I don’t date black males…

Next question, coon??

WOW, This convo is interesting….

Let that had been your mom, daughter, or sister that got beat up YOU wouldn’t be sittin up in here talking about accountabilities….Thats sad….

So if your white male kicks your ass, i guess you’ll find some way to blame black men for that too, huh? You’re fvcking joke! Go kill yourself.

@SMDH

Now you know your comments are very lopsided, not to mention inaccurate. The vast majority of black men are law-abiding individuals (remember the stat I shared with you about more black men being in college than in prison?).

As far as domestic violence tendencies, I submit the following names to you (these are just the ones who immediately jumped to mind):

– Drew Peterson, the cop in Chicago

– Scott Peterson (killed wife and unborn son)

– Charles Stuart (killed his wife in Boston and blamed it on a black man)

And the list goes on and on. . .

Hi SMDH….

I’m sorry that you don’t date black men at all, I am lucky to have one of the many good ones out their, granted their are a lot of f*ked up men, but they DO come in all colors, shapes and sizes….not just black….

@ Syndey_ I concur

you damn right the list goes on and on, not to mention that at at least 85 percent of the worlds serial killers were white men, and these men took the lives of hundreds of innocent people….but we are here arguing about black men and pointing out black men, FOR WHAT??

@ Corp

Sorry, but there is no SMDH imposter. Check the gravie, it’s the same # 2873. She’s insane. Stop making excuses for her.

It’s stupid to single out one race for a particular issue because you have good men and bad men in all races.

@Lauren

Exactly! Abusers come in all races, and I’ve watched enough real-life crime cases to know that white men have committed some of the most heinous crimes imaginable.

This is a sensitive issue for me because as a toddler I saw my drunk father beat on my mother and once I was old enough to understand what happened I vowed to myself that I would NEVER be like my him.

Becky is not on the black males dick.. The black male is on her ass!! I know plenty of white women who have dated black males along with a variety of males.. Plenty of white women date black and never go back.. However, I can count on two fingers the number of black males who have dated white and came back to their own.. The black male is OBSESSED with Becky – so stop blaming her for your obsessions..

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I don’t understand your logic….just because you don’t know of any, this means there are none??? I know plenty of black men who have dated white women and gone back to marry a black woman, HAPPILY…So whats your point?

@ Shay Shay, I’m trying to understand with an open mind some of these poeple’s point of views but its hard when they are being so close-minded, and I’m convined that this SMDH person is a white person, because no black person no matter how much they have been hurt is going to call another black person a n!gger, that is too hurtful, I’m sorry I just couldn’t do it.

@ Corp

That’s the exception, not the rule. As Sydney pointed out: African-American women experience intimate partner violence at rates 35% higher than their White counterparts and 2.5 times the rate of men and other races. Approximately 29.1% of African-American females experience intimate partner violence – rape, physical assault, or stalking – in their lifetime. Intimate partner homicide is the leading cause of death for African-American women ages 15 to 45. This being the case, then start dating/mating outside of your race…Which you did. More power to you…But don’t think i’m goin to sit here and let you or anyone else blame blackmen for the actions of a few assholes. If SMDH feels that blackmen are the scurge of society, then why is she always on a black site? Move on!

“So if your white male kicks your ass, i guess you’ll find some way to blame black men for that too, huh? You’re fvcking joke! Go kill yourself.”

You sound like an angry coon, boy!! I bet you are abusive to women!!! I’m sure that’s why you’re up in here condoning what this criminal ape did to her…

SMDH!!!

I thought this broad was gay!!!!

“I don’t understand your logic….just because you don’t know of any, this means there are none??? I know plenty of black men who have dated white women and gone back to marry a black woman, HAPPILY…So whats your point?”

My point is Becky isn’t selling her mamas soul to lay down with a black male.. Becky isn’t trying to become rich so that she appeals to the black male.. Becky isn’t turning her back on her race in record numbers for the black male.. Becky isn’t putting down her white men to appease the black male.. Becky is not the self hating joke that the black male is… Becky is obsessed with the black male.. The black male is obsessed with her…

That’s the point I’m trying to make..

“If SMDH feels that blackmen are the scurge of society, then why is she always on a black site? Move on!”

And likewise to you when your sitting here bashing black women!!! Get the hell on, boy!!!

“Ridiculous! “Becky” can have those types:)”

The sad thing about this statement is Becky usually does get them.. Black males who are married to white women almost always end up, at some point, in trouble for assaulting them..

“Exactly! Abusers come in all races, and I’ve watched enough real-life crime cases to know that white men have committed some of the most heinous crimes imaginable.”

What does the white man have to do with this out of control violent coon attacking a woman infront of her kids???

This dude’s ignorance is becoming contagious. I think he’s obsessed with black people. I can see how were descendents of Queens and Kings we are innovators he can’t drive down the block w/out acknowledging an invention by a Black Person. Here we stand stronger than ever there is nothing you can do to stop us. Learn your history learn about how threaten you were by us that you did everything in your power to stop us. We can’t be Stopped. “Be the change you wish to seek in the world” Ghandi

“Exactly! Abusers come in all races, and I’ve watched enough real-life crime cases to know that white men have committed some of the most heinous crimes imaginable.”

What does the white man have to do with this out of control violent coon attacking a woman infront of her kids???

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You again make no sense she didn’t say ANYTHING about white people at all she said ALL RACES, But you continue to turn words around the way you want them…Sad…

@SMDH

First of all, that is not a “coon” you’re referring to, he’s a man. My point is that abusers come in all races — you’ve singled out black men for your vitriol when the stats clearly speak to the reality of domestic violence’s impact across racial lines. You use every incident of crime or violence to launch into an endless diatribe against brothers.

@Brooklyn, Stand UP!

I’m very sorry that you witnessed your mother being abused. I’m sure that was horrible for you.

I said it!!(Check me out!)

This dude’s ignorance is becoming contagious. I think he’s obsessed with black people. I can see how were descendents of Queens and Kings we are innovators he can’t drive down the block w/out acknowledging an invention by a Black Person. Here we stand stronger than ever there is nothing you can do to stop us. Learn your history learn about how threaten you were by us that you did everything in your power to stop us. We can’t be Stopped. “Be the change you wish to seek in the world” Ghandi

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THANK YOU FOR THAT, WE NEED TO STOP ALL THIS HATE ON ONE ANOTHER, IF YOU HAVE BEEN HURT BY ANYONE IN YOUR LIFE IT IS TIME TO LIVE AND LET GO AND FORGIVE….

I don’t condone domestice violence on any front. A real true to life man would never put his hands on a woman AND this is vice versa advice for women. Also women or men should never ignore the tell tale signs of someone who has a potential to snap. I hope QP gets some help from the authorities and even if this ‘boyfriend’ comes back with flowers and remorseful apologies, she needs to stick to her guns. We’ve seen it all before…folks accepting idiotic behavior just to have somebody to lay up with. Love yourself please.

@Sydney

It actually made me become a better man than my father. My moms past away when I was 15 years so I’m sure she is looking down from heaven proud of me. My dad is still alive but the only time I see him is when he needs money for his sh*t. I still love him but it’s like a love/hate relationship. But thanx for your concern buddy, I appriciate it

@corporatecutieshayshay

You are a triumph! Keep on overcoming and rising to the top! Bless you and your daughter and family.

@ Marquis

Abusive men are cunning and subversive and shield their abusive tendencies from everyone’s plain view until they have earned their prey’s trust. Kindness and appearing perfect is their m.o. and cover. A lot of sisters ask the right questions and look for the red flags but abusers are masterful at hiding behind a mask until… Come on Marquis, beat down in front of her children, show Queen Pen more compassion. I was raised to know and I am teaching my son that a real man can ALWAYS retain his composure, walk away, and cool off. You’re always saying sisters should do something positive with themselves. Well she did. She created something worthy of a GRAMMY and her abuser broke it. Peace to you.

Like I said I’m done, there’s no getting around you’re f*cked up mind set so I’m done…seriously you need help, and everything not the black males fault ….

@Brooklyn, Stand UP!

No problem. My grandfather was an abuser, and my mother witnessed some horrible things during her childhood, so domestic violence has been an issue in my extended family. It hurts me whenever she describes what she saw my grandmother endure because I can only imagine how painful that was for her, to be powerless as a child and watch your parent be assaulted.

@ L & A

That’s the operative phrase “REAL MAN”. This was not a real man. This was an asshole, who Queen pen on two separate occasions made a conscious decision to carry his seed. I’m sorry, but she has to share some of the accountability in creating this dysfunctional and abusive environment for those children. This isn’t about some grammy for some rap song. This is real life, and unfortunately, it involves innocent children.

@SMDH, I HAVE A QUESTION. PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE BECAUSE BY NO MEANS DO I INTEND FOR MY INQUIRY TO BE RECIEVED IN A MEAN WAY. BUT WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH A PROFOUND HATRED FOR BLACK MEN? YOU SPEW SUCH VENOMOUS HATRED, THAT ITS ALARMING. WHATS WRONG, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO MAKE YOU FEEL THIS WAY?

@Sydney

Sadly this sh*t still goes on today. I’ve been with my wife 12 years and never would even think of doing some horrible sh*t like that. Luckily my moms left my pops when I was 5 years old so I didn’t see the abuse anymore but the memories will always be there.

What song does she have a Grammy for?

No diggity. She shared the rap performance with Dr. Dre.

@Brooklyn, Stand UP!

Yes, unfortunately, it does go on, and I believe some children who witness abuse grow up to become abusers themselves or become involved in abusive relationships. I’m glad you were able to break that cycle.

I swaer to god looking at all these comments. i would just keep my right hand slicked and greased up all the time cause i know it will never do me wrong.

Man or Woman? who do you like.

i can do bad all by my damn self. thats real talk.

@ Sydney

Thanx That’s just not me (Abusive). I treat everyone the way I hope to be treated… With respect!

@Marquis de Sade(Check me out!)

No diggity. She shared the rap performance with Dr. Dre.

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Thanx, I don’t remember that song to much… What were the lyrics?

women have a way of pushing mens buttons so if thats what happening then a woman should already know what type of guy she has in her life before she attacks. most women feel a man should NEVER hit a woman but u never know what will spark a man.

some men walk away but even those who do walk away could lose it every now and again.

KNOW the person you have in your life

PRAY for Queen pen & her kids

It sampled Bill Withers “GRANDMA’S HAND” and had the lyrics No Diggity, No Doubt and I Like the way you work it. That’s about all my knowledge of the song. It’s over ten years old now. You can probably go on youtube and download the video.

@chinesechickenwingz

That’s exactly my point. I have a friend who would never hit a woman, and his lady knew that. So during arguments, she would always get in his face, buck up, etc., and one night, she attacked him and scratched his face. So, he “forcefully” stopped her by grabbing her wrists, forcing her to the ground, and holding her there until she calmed down. She never did that again, and he was extremely apologetic, but it never should have gotten physical. He asserted himself physically and in his own defense, and now all arguments are verbal as they should be. He could have easily beaten her, and i’m glad it didn’t come to that.

@Marquis de Sade

Cool, Thanks again!

Also, I’m not trying to say that’s what happened to Queen Pen. That dude should be in jail.

Nothing justifies hitting a woman.

I’ve been involved in situations were it can lead to that.

It’s unfortunate but a woman should never be beaten or hit. I know women that feel the only way a man can love them is if he beats them. I know men who feel they are only men if they hit a woman.

It’s a vicious cycle and a sad one at that. I don’t know if that is the case here but either way its bogus. I wish her and her children the best (especially the kids)

@Marquis de Sade

No offense, but “choking the chicken” shouldn’t be a man’s alternative to not hitting a woman. Just don’t do it. Walk away, and if she assaults you, you can call the police, and she will be arrested. It’s a crime either way. There’s also counseling available for anger management, as well as resources for victims of domestic violence.

@Sydney

Good Nite Buddy!

@Brooklyn, Stand UP!

Good night! Thanks for sharing your personal experience.

@Sydney

Your very welcome!! Stay cool!!

@ Sydney

LOL! Well when you grow a penis and have to deal with a triflin’ naggin’ woman, you can’t make that statement. Take your pick: A man chokin’ you or chokin’ the chicken? Slappin’ the ham, or slappin’ you? Spankin’ the monkey, or spankin’ you? LOL!

@Marquis de Sade

Well, follow your own advice, don’t pick up the “triflin’ naggin’” woman, right? Why are you making yourself out to be the victim? Huh? Huh?

@ Sydney

Ain’t nobody playin’ the victim. Detroit and I are just coming up with proactive solutions to avoid the drama that comes with having relations with the opposite sex. LOL!

@Marquis de Sade

Oh, OK, does it have to involve jokes in a thread concerning domestic violence?

*popping open Tylenol*

@ Sydney

Sydney, a here yesterday rapper, gone today rapper involved in an abusive relationship multiple out of wedlock children involved, i’m sorry to say is not only cliched, but trust me, in some circles there will be humor involved.

@Marquis de Sade

Oh, OK. . .you’re not referring to Queen Pen, though. This has a general slant. Why?

@Marquis de Sade

Never mind. . .I’ve posted enough on this thread anyway.

@Meeko From Detroit

You’s a fool (In a good way) dawg…

You made me burst out in laughter…

@ Sydney

I am referring to Queen Pen. It’s unfortunate that she picked the wrong men to procreate with, but what she’s going through is not unique…As i mentioned before, she’s just another ghetto cliche.

@Marquis de Sade

What she’s going through is not unique to “ghetto cliches,” as you call them. And you’ve made remarks like this in the past — as I’ve said before, yes, SMDH and some others on this site spout stereotypical vitriol, but it goes both ways. There are angry people in both genders well represented here.

@ Sydney

Sydney, all i meant by “ghetto cliche” is that she (Q.P.) continued the same pattern of dysfunction that a lot of black women tend to do – date and mate with the wrong men. One mistake, fine, but two, three, four, etc. C’mon. After awhile, all one can do is shake their collective heads and laugh.

@Marquis de Sade

You’re generalizing about black women, just as SMDH generalized about black men earlier, and both of you have given me a headache.

Good night.

@ Sydney

No i’m not. SMDH indicted all blackmen. I said a lot of black women, not all…And even by the statistics you posted earlier, bears this out + the over 70% of black children born out of wedlock. Deep down, you agree, but i think you’re over-empathizing with these women/victims out of some mis-placed solidarity…Afterall, where’s your children out of wedlock? Where’s your multiple baby daddies? Deep down, you know i’m right. Ultimately, all you can do is chalk it up to: “BETTER THEM THAN ME”.

@Marquis de Sade

You win — it’s all sisters’ fault. Damn us, damn us all to hell.

@Marquis de Sade

Sarcasm aside, I think I finally realized today that your mind is set and will be unmoved. Tomorrow you will post the same arguments and if you get frustrated enough, then you will rant against “b**ches,” and the cycle shall continue.

And I would have hoped that you would have picked up by now that I’d never divorce my personal experience from our collective struggles because, like it or not, what’s happening to us as a whole affects me. So, no, the words “better them than me” would never exit my mouth — perhaps yours, but not mine.

@Marquis de Sade

Can you for once address the dysfunctions of educated, strong, and independent men? You can’t deny that your arguments, for the most part, have a particular slant to them, like you can only see problems within a particular prism, and life just isn’t that black and white.

And we’re referring to problems that affect women in other races as well, but you seem to totally ignore that little factoid.

@Marquis de Sade

On another note, is “b**ch” now synonymous with black women because I failed to get that memo.

@Marquis de Sade

Oh, OK. . .

*sigh*

I love you Sydney. You’re the only cyber girl i know that can get under my skin and put me in check. LOL

@Marquis de Sade

LMAO! I’ve put YOU in check? How did I do that?

I love you, too, Marquis. *smooches*

With your calming effect and even tempered nature. The two qualities that i don’t have. You’re the Yin to my YANG.

@Marquis de Sade

Aw, that’s sweet. Well, I try to be even-tempered, even when I’m called (not by you) such colorful names as “n***a wh*re,” lol! I actually think I’ve come a long way — I just try not to let things get to me so much.

You’re going to make me shed a cyber-tear, lol.

I have been her. My prayers go out to all of those who have been abused. Peace.

@Marquis de Sade

Ciao, Marquis! I like seeing your soft side! *hugs*

Okay, I’m confused. When Queen Pen dropped her debut cd, didn’t she come out workin’ some lesbian swag? Isn’t this the same rapper who had a jam in the day with Michelle N’Dgeocello proclaiming their sexual orientation? Something along the lines of ‘Yes, we are’? Are there two Queen Pens?

No Woman deserves to be beaten! She has a restraining order against him.But that only does a little.What she will have to do is hire an experienced body guard if she can afford one.Next,she will have to get a gun and put it in an unreachable place for the safety of her kids.When he tries to enter her house,she must shoot him.It’s best that she severely shoots him, or perhaps,kill him.Because that’s what he’ll do to her and her kids.

He probably saw her dressed like a 2 dollar ho and went bonkers. If you gonna pose like that then get a stylist who knows how to dress fat women.

This is problaby a publicity stunt knowing that ignoramous! UGH. Anyway like I said whoop her dumb ghetto azz!

Sydney wrote:

@Marquis de Sade

You win — it’s all sisters’ fault. Damn us, damn us all to hell.

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Hilarious.

I must admit I like Marquis’ and 6am’s posts. They’re true to themselves and honest with others.

sorry for the obvious typos. kids are off to bed, now time for me turn in. night night good people.

Only women with low self esteem would entertain this kind of foolishness. They both need anger management and need to start loving themselves so they won’t take this sh/t from their partners in the next relationship.

@Deb,

Thank God that you lived to tell your story. You are a strong woman. God took care of him by taking away his leg.

Good for you. : )

If any woman is in an abusive relationship,Get Out! Actually, I am making a movie about this type of issue that women face,except for my film shows how the woman suffers from post-battered syndrome which is becoming more common among battered women. This is a very serious case of mental illness. Some women who experience this type of condition, get revenge on their husbands by murdering their husband’s in the most hienous way.Poisoning,torture,and mutilations.

who the hell is she?

Queen who???