For Discussion: “If You Put It Up to a Vote of the People, We’d Have Slavery Again.”

November 7th, 2009

Posted by Bossip Staff

10051 Views

This week on Larry King Live, there was a discussion about how the legislature in the state of Maine made same sex marriages legal. Now they have given the vote to the residents of Maine to really decide whether or not that want this law apart of their state even though the legislature already decided on it. Then is how the conversation went.

J. KING: That’s absolutely right. And California, of course, when Prop 8 passed, when they repealed same-sex marriage out in California, …that is one of the things that generated this moving of people on both sides of that issue deciding to go back to the ballot. And, as you know, in California, many people wanted to take a little time to organize, supporters of same-sex marriage.

But if you see this Maine vote now and again — let’s watch it play out. But right now, the anti-gay marriage — those who oppose same-sex marriage are winning in the State of Maine, with about 30 percent more of the vote to count, though. And Maine is the state where in some those faraway rural counties. We may not have all of that in, Larry, until the morning.

Reform Party: You’re shaking your head, Jesse.

VENTURA: Well, it just shows a great example that there’s not a separation of church and state, is there?

I mean my position is this. You can’t put a civil rights issue on the ballot and let the people decide. You have to have elected officials who have courage, Larry, to make the right decisions.

Reform Party: The legislature did pass this.

VENTURA: Exactly. But now they’re putting it up to the vote of the people. I’ve got news for you, if you put it up to a vote of the people, we’d have slavery again, depending on how you worded it.

With Jessie Ventura, former Govenor of Minnesota and professional wrestler, making this statement, he makes it seems as the people of this country have no sense to know exactly what they are voting for.

What we want to know is, do you agree with Jessie Ventura, that if decisions are left up to the people to vote, that slavery would exist in some states in this country???

Larry King Live

Follow @bossip on Twitter Right Now!!!

Tags: For Discussion, Jesse Ventura, Larry King Live

« Tameka Foster Raymond is Starting to Look Like a Woman…

SMH: Coco Says That BLOG READERS Are “Usually Overweight People… Do You Have Jobs?” »

Comments

120 Responses to “For Discussion: “If You Put It Up to a Vote of the People, We’d Have Slavery Again.””

Hannibal

11/7/09, 10:14:am

…

Hannibal

11/7/09, 10:16:am

YES I AGREE, SLAVERY WOULD AND SHOULD MAKE A COMEBACK, THERE WILL BE LESS HOMICIDES COMMITTED BY BLACKS AND WE WILL HAVE FREE FOOD AGAIN, YES M*****A!

Lala

11/7/09, 10:21:am

There’s more ignorance out there than we would like to admit. I hate to say it, but if the people can repeal Prop 8 in California, one of the most liberal states in the country, then there are states that would love to bring back slavery. Not necessarily with black people. Just look how Latinos and immigrants are treated now. You think the ignorant people that keep these people down wouldn’t throw them into slavery?

cmb5163

11/7/09, 10:24:am

Sad, but true on all counts. Plenty of people would vote fo slavery, AND don’t have the good sense to know what they’re voting for.

cmb5163

11/7/09, 10:25:am

*for*

Trena

11/7/09, 10:25:am

I disagree. If it were up to the people slavery would not make a comeback. The people voted in the first black President. The people are not idiots; unlike people on this blog who post monkey faces. BTW monkeys have naturally straight hair and colored eyes…sounds like anything other than a black person…I’m just sayin’

s*****alene

11/7/09, 10:26:am

@Lala

Sorry hon but noone is forcing latinos work for slave labor they do it voluntarily. And if they don’t like it then they shouldn’t do it.

White Women Rule

11/7/09, 10:32:am

My goodness! What a hot topic and what a cool response. This is exactly why it would win darling. Notice how many blacks on this site automatically back away from political issues yet are drawn to purely puff pieces. As I stated before, our youth is dumbing down in a very painful way.

s*****alene

11/7/09, 10:35:am

i am gonna try and say this again and hopefully it will not be deleted. But I doubt americans will vote for slavery because they know that everyone is too smart and much tougher than we were 100 hundred years ago.

I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983. BOSSIP DOESN'T LIKE WHEN US BLOGGERS KEEP IT REAL

11/7/09, 10:37:am

I could be believe it. They have slavery in prisons anyway.

Sepia830

11/7/09, 10:39:am

Maybe, but Mexicans would be slaves, not Blacks.

I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983. BOSSIP DOESN'T LIKE WHEN US BLOGGERS KEEP IT REAL

11/7/09, 10:40:am

YES I AGREE, SLAVERY WOULD AND SHOULD MAKE A COMEBACK, THERE WILL BE LESS HOMICIDES COMMITTED BY BLACKS AND WE WILL HAVE FREE FOOD AGAIN, YES M*****A!

***********************************************************

HANNI!

You know you are wrong for that. So it is okay for your women to be r*ped and have “m*****a’s” kids and be treated like ish by the wife because she is jealous. We should be whipped and forced to work in unhealthy conditions for the sake of free food.

And they do have free food Hanni…it’s called food stamps. Lots of people in this country get “free food” and lots of people here are still starving. Would you like to be forced to live in a shanty for the sake of free food.

Hanni usually I can tolerate you but was definitely not one of your better comments.

Izzymom

11/7/09, 10:44:am

I think anything is possible. It may not be black ppl that are the slaves but there are some *****es in this country that would welcome the idea! SMH

jlove71

11/7/09, 10:48:am

Wow White I shy away from no topic like this and I wish you would put this to a test most of you sorry ***** white women love black dyck you are slaves and have no clue why you are to the mind and to yourselves.

Tracey

11/7/09, 10:48:am

That is the problem with the white man, they don’t want to pay properly for any manual labour, they either want it dirt cheap, done for free or force people into it!

Manual labour if paid for properly can help a man feed his family, bring about good blue collar needed skills and could be a bonus for this economy and not just for one white fat ignorant inbreded homogenous tax invading thug to get rich off as he calls for slaves. What planet is this buffoon on!

First the salves, now the cheaply paid asians and they still want more, whilst everyone but themselves benefit off?

Tracey

11/7/09, 10:52:am

Another thing about the ignorant homogenous inbred arrogant white race, if they werent so business taking work out of this western countries to eastern countries for cheap labour and m*****ive profits and paid people properly at home, we all would be doing a lot better, there would be much more jobs, lot less crime and more people paying taxes and giving to charity.

The Whites are greedy, selfish, awful people and the reason why the world is in a mess, pinpoint the causes of crime no matter what community you look at, and you can link it back to the white mans greedy, fear, selfishness and arrogance!

Hannibal

11/7/09, 10:53:am

@I’M JUST ME

I’M SORRY

deesac

11/7/09, 11:09:am

What even sad about this whole thing you probably would have a lot of blacks voting for this because they don’t think there black

Tracey

11/7/09, 11:19:am

Not as many as whites thinking it will be the blacks forced to work for nothing or peanuts!

What civilized society with a strong economy would really survive like that?

This isnt some old day ages, where taxes werent needed to educate people and to pay for services!

How would we pay for any public services if only FAT white homogenous ignorant white men where milking ALL the money out of slaves?

FFS, I cannot take white people out time, enviromentally they are destroying the world, colonolize and take over anything, if they cannot get it out of pressure, they will cause wars and force people and countries into things!

You want a business, then pay for it and contribute to this scoeity PROPERLY!

They should stick to blowing holes in the moon to find water, that is all they are good for stupidity!

Ad for L king giving this idiot a voice, would about a VOTE to bring back gas ovens? I am sure the same folks who want to bring back slavery would vote for that and his boney behind would be the first one in there.

Hannibal SuX @$$

11/7/09, 11:28:am

Ha he is right , people are stupid, too bad im left to socially comment with less intelligent of sort on this blog

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 11:47:am

They should have had the slavery referendum on the same ballot with the last presidential election. They could have elected a black president and also reenacted slavery at the same time!

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 11:52:am

We have slavery NOW. It’s called food stamps and welfare. Instead of working or trying to educate themselves they just waddle in the mud of hopelessness living in some type of GROUND HOG DAY until they die and it perpetuates generation after generation. Sad

khayce

11/7/09, 11:57:am

if ignorance was a deadly disease every last blogger who believed in the negeative garbage they wrote would and should be dead!

Truthfully

11/7/09, 11:58:am

I’m pretty sure I’m being censored.

khayce

11/7/09, 11:58:am

negative yes i can properly spell!

elhaq

11/7/09, 12:08:pm

Slaver does exist today, the 13th amendment abolished slavery except in prisons. You may think that prisoners deserve the time they get, they do agreed but think about the corporate structure of prisons. prisons are private businesses, the gov’t doesnt own and control all our prisons. actually they only control a few, most of the prisons are privately owned… when you think about this you realize why America has the most people in the world in prison. you realize that drugs and guns smuggled into this country that end up in black neighborhoods who otherwise wouldn’t be able to get these things. Iran/Contra was real, the military smuggled drugs into this country and put them into our community, this is no conspiracy, this is fact. WE ARE STILL SLAVES, THINK ABOUT YOUR BROTHERS DOING TIME. THEY ARE STILL SLAVES AND THE CHIPS AND ODDS ARE STACKED AGAINST US.

buggin_out

11/7/09, 12:17:pm

Gov. Ventura was making a rhetorical point. The point he was demonstrating is that in a full democracy majority rules. But a “majority rules” dictum leaves the minority in any issue vulnerable to abuse by an unscrupulous majority. Despite what most people believe and have been taught, the United States is not a full democracy. The United States is a representational republic. Therefore, in the United States certain rights are deemed inalienable and no majority can impinge upon them. What Gov. Ventura was demonstrating is the fallacy of putting a civil rights issue up to a majority vote. If the group whose rights are being infringed upon are in the minority then a majority can always revoke their rights when put to a vote. However, a civil right is not granted by the government nor the people, but is given by virtue of being a human.

darealist352

11/7/09, 12:23:pm

How can you compare food stamps to slavery GTFOH. I believe some states definetly would still have slavery especially in the south. Look at South Carolina they steel have the confederate flag up at the capital biulding. Just caused Obama got elected doesn’t mean anything obviously you haven’t been watching the healthcare debate or fox news. There’s alot of things in this country that is sugar coated. People need to open there eyes and there horizons there’s more going on than just videos and blogs. I’m sure than some ignorant black people would even vote for slavery. I mean look at that donkey hannibel has a pic up of the most beautiful first lady in history!!! and got her looking like a monkey man i just hope your not black that would be even sadder

ozzy

11/7/09, 12:25:pm

SLAVERY COULD NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN NO MATTER WHO VOTES ON IT. BLACK PEOPLE TODAY DONT FEAR WHITE PEOPLE SO TOO MANY WHITES WOULD DIE TRYING TO BRING BACK SLAVERY. AND IF FOR ANY REASON SLAVERY RETURNS THE SLAVES WILL BE “WHITE”

othello

11/7/09, 12:27:pm

If worded correctly (or incorrectly) slavery legislation could easily p*****. The are tons of bills that people vote for having no idea what the hell the legislation is really about. Who reads that crap? Who’s going to read the whole health care bill’s proposal that clocks in at 1,990 pages? No one, so Jesse is absolutely right. Most people have no clue what their voting for until it’s too late. We have no idea what’s really in these bills unless we take the time to sift through them which most people (like 90%) won’t.

darealist352

11/7/09, 12:33:pm

Elhaq that was going to be my second point look at our drug laws and who they are aimed at. One of those guys had a ponzi scheme of like 20 million dollars and he got 7 years and if you get caught with a kilo of powder you gonna get more time than that and they’re going to take everything you own from you also. If you can figure out a way to rob folks the “white collar way” you don’t have to worry about a thing. Also they just had a bust of those wallstreet guys with that insider trading stealing millions of dollars using wire taps and other tactics mostly used for drug dealers. It’s crazy they just now thinking to use those things for people that are getting actually rich off of crime than someone making 2 or 3 dollars hustling

neenee

11/7/09, 12:33:pm

We are already in slavery. White America, well never let us get ahead. It’s all a mind game, and if you don’t realize that then you will always conform to what ever White America wants you to.

othello

11/7/09, 12:41:pm

politico.com/news/stories/1009/28904.html

^^
Great article on basically why the majority of people will never fully comprehend what the hell is going on with health care. Supporting Jesse’s theory and one of the reasons why I think he’s absolutely right. He said, the people would vote for slavery if the bill’s proposal disguised and or buried it’s true intentions (i.e. The Homeland Security Act). Implementation if such legislature re-legalizing slavery is unrealistic and would cause crazy civil unrest.

darealist352

11/7/09, 12:43:pm

How many black people do you see standing up for real issues yeah you might see them come out for photo op here and there and say what people need to do while going back to there homes in the suburbs I think if it ever comes down to it most black folks with money and a lil power would side wit white people for the sake of losing there so called positions its said but its true. It takes a real tragedy for influential black folks to care about the problems going on n the real black commmunity they all have there foundations and all that but they never made it to where i came from

RealLifeCoach

11/7/09, 12:43:pm

I agree 100%. I am an African-American and love Jessie Ventura, from the ring to politics. He keeps it 100.

Ever seen the movie “Idiocracy”? If so, then you’d know that’s the direction people are headed. Just look at all the fake marriages, reality tv, fashion, and technology we just can’t live without. It’s a red herring to throw us off the scent of what’s really going on in our world. Don’t believe me? Just ask one of your friends or someone on the street to name their local officials and what roles they serve, not even government, local. They can’t do it. You may get a couple names, but not much after that.

And yes, whether you want to admit it or not, people are just that stupid. SMH! Where is Larry Fishburn to hit us upside the head with a resounding, “WAKE UP”?

I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983....Currently @ the Library

11/7/09, 12:46:pm

@I’M JUST ME

I’M SORRY

************************************************************

It’s cool but we are going to do better right Hanni??

darealist352

11/7/09, 12:48:pm

Everyone always downing welfare and food stamps and all that how else are we going to help the poor depend on people that have to help the people that don’t. You know that will never happen. Sometimes people are stuck not everyone can go to college you have to go in debt for like 30 years if you do. You can’t raise a family working at Mcdonalds. The rich have been getting richer for years now especially under bush. If you don’t already have property or your family doesn’t have money its a 1000 times harder to make it in this country

I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983....Currently @ the Library

11/7/09, 12:48:pm

prisons are private businesses, the gov’t doesnt own and control all our prisons. actually they only control a few, most of the prisons are privately owned…

************************************************************

This is very true!!!

DR.FUNK

11/7/09, 12:52:pm

Slavery & bringing back Slavery WAS NOT his central point BOSSIP.His point was that MOST voters can be deceived by tricky wording on ballot issues.Please put your VICTIM CARD away.

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 12:54:pm

@Elhaq
@darealist352

What would you suggest we do? Let all who are in jail out????? The solution for violent and repeat offenders is MORE TIME UNDER SEVER CONDITIONS SO THAT THEY DON’T DO IT AGAIN. I don’t care about criminals. I care about the people that are being raped, killed and knocked upside the head. I don’t care about what social economical environment they came from. We all came out of the same ghetto and there are rules in the ghetto. Those same subhuman criminals lived by the rules within the criminal world subculture of our community. They can learn how to live by the rules of the general community.

othello

11/7/09, 12:58:pm

@ therealist

The Rockefeller laws; the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as RICO Act or RICO); all had to be proposed and voted in to laws as bills; or voted in as Acts. It disgusts me that no one had the foresight to see how this would effect impoverished communities for decades to come. BTW Madoff got 150 years didn’t he?

@ neenee
We in the u.s. are not already in slavery. There are real people all over the world living as slaves. To say you’re somehow anything close to a slave because of lack of opportunity while waiting for someone to “let” you get ahead is just laziness and completely disrespectful to the estimated millions of men, women, and children actually enslaved around the world. Do the reading and support the organizations trying to abolish slavery in the modern world.

I'm Just Me: Keeping It Real Since 1983....Currently @ the Library

11/7/09, 12:58:pm

Bossip why can’t i post?

wash ya *****

11/7/09, 13:07:pm

There is slavery going right now and its called the Internet , you DUMB DOWN sheep…… masters of your thoughts and actions you fools….

darealist352

11/7/09, 13:07:pm

@othello

I wasn’t talking about Madoff there was one rightg after him I don’t remember his name though.

@Shawn Jones

I didn’t say anything about murders and rapists I was talking aout drug laws. When people go on there own free will and spend money for things that they want. Other words victim less crimes I elieve if you out there raping and murdering people damn right you should e locked up and throw away they keep. What I’m talking about is people that got caught wit some rock cocaine and gets 20 years and never hurt *****ody just selling some dope. In some cir*****stances you can get more time selling dope than murder or being a child molester or knocking your wife and girlfriend upside the head.

Playa Will

11/7/09, 13:21:pm

Slavery does STILL exist!! Every time u visit a hotel, restaurant, casino, ur paying slave wages! Many of u may not believe it but there is some serious hierarchy dat goes on in these establishments. As a ppl, we need to pool our resources & aide in da development of da black/latino community. When I say resources, I don’t just mean money…dats a given. But share da wealth of knowledge wit each other. After all, information is free, unless ur gettin it from a jive a** muf%#@!…think about it & b about it!!!

jdmann

11/7/09, 13:28:pm

Slavery is working all week and the govt takes your hard earned money thru taxes.

——————–
SOLDIER Urban Gear

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 13:29:pm

@darealist352

If you don’t already have property or your family doesn’t have money its a 1000 times harder to make it in this country
_________________________________________

Go tell that to the people in Africa.
_________________________________

Regarding welfare………. Its needed but it is being abused to the point that it has become the abuser

Regarding your comments on crime……. Be clearer in the future as to what crimes you’re talking about. If you think drug dealing is a victimless crime, talk to the crack baby or the person who had a crime committed against them by a drug addict.

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 13:33:pm

@darealist352

You have an illness. It’s called victimization syndrome. Don’t worry it can be cured. The cure is called taxes. lol

ike

11/7/09, 13:35:pm

he’s right. there was this poll on cnn asking people what they thought about “women’s suffrage.” like ninety percent of respondents were like.. women’s suffrage is bad and should stop. not knowing women’s suffrage was actually women’s right to vote…not women’s suffering. so yeah ventura’s very right.

DNL

11/7/09, 13:39:pm

Hell Yeah there would be! Im nervous to think it is not an impossible thought

darealist352

11/7/09, 13:42:pm

@Shawn Jones

I did say what crime I was talking about. The reason people can come to this country and it’s easier for them to make it is because they come hear witr a clean slate they don’t have bumps in there credit and it’s a lot easier for them toi get government grants. As for us to open up a business we have to go for high interest loans and go in debt for years just to make a way. As for welfare yeah it’s being abused so is tax laws justice system do I need to keep going. But when poor people are abusing things thats when we have a problem, and I’m sure more people really need it than are abusing it. I doubt people are getting rich wit food stamps. I’m saying people are buying the drugs of there own free will. Yeah and I guess you think black people invented crack cocaine and heroine too. For the crackhead that does something to someone else that makes it a different category doesn’t it.

darealist352

11/7/09, 13:47:pm

@Shawn Jones

I made away with the hand I was dealt and I’m doing pretty good I might add. I’m speaking for people that don’t have the opportunity I had and don’t know the things I know. It’s easy to ash people when you don’t know what they had to go through and what got them in the situation they are in. I know I’m not a victim I wish I could help people that are going through what they are instead of just trying to knock them down further

Redbone_Darkbutt_Black_White (It's just coochie)

11/7/09, 14:19:pm

he’s just telling the truth — john mccain got the MAJORITY of white votes, running with a MONUMENTAL NUT CASE as his v-p candidate.

perhaps 30-40% of whites in this country merely “tolerate” black citizens — there are far more people out there like “dog the bounty hunter” than there are like the damn kardashian family (where race apparently DOESN’T matter).

smarter than you

11/7/09, 14:21:pm

haha why do white people act like they ‘let us free’?there were slave revolutions in south american and in the caribbeen so they had to change the laws…

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 14:26:pm

@darealist352

I’m through. I’m not talking about Africans coming here. I’m talking about the one’s living in Africa. Do you think they think we have it hard? Welfare, again…… I’m not talking about the people abusing welfare for a few dollars. Most of them are trapped MENTALY, SPRITUALL AND EMOTIONALLY as it they WERE SHAKELED LIKE SLAVES. I’m through

Dwoodard

11/7/09, 14:27:pm

Hell Yes,,, not even a question…

Rhea Nichole

11/7/09, 14:36:pm

The key phrase is “based on how it was worded”. I am of the belief that when you step into the voting booth you should read what you are voting on, HOWEVER, the way many of the legislative pieces and amendments are worded, even the most educated can have a difficult time determining what whey are voting for or against. That’s why commercials and billboards are effective during election time because many people remember what they saw or heard and don’t bother to read what they are voting for or against. Politicians and political action committees count on the laziness and the willful ignorance of those who watch Fox News and listen to conservative talk radio because they know those people will never do their own research.

lmfao yeah right

11/7/09, 14:44:pm

bossip wtf, why aren’t my comments getting posted!!!

lmfao yeah right

11/7/09, 14:45:pm

Whites wouldn’t even try to bring slavery back, they are to intimidated by blacks. Whites have feared blacks since they first laid eyes on us in africa. If slavery made a return then millions would die from a m*****ive civil war.

Marquis de Sade

11/7/09, 14:49:pm

The cynical part of me has to agree with Jesse. I live in California, and was shocked that Prop. 8 p*****ed…Hell, even most of the right-winged pundits on KFI AM (a conservative radio station) was shocked that it p*****ed. Most voters are either stupid, simple or all of the above.

Keify (west-Bmore)

11/7/09, 14:51:pm

HE AIN’T NEVA LIED!!!!!!! (Yes, I whole-heartedly agree with former Giv. Ventura!)

Queenb2001

11/7/09, 14:55:pm

@lmfao yeah right

It’s precisely the reason that whites fear blacks that they would be slavery. Whatever you fear/dont understand/ or threatened by it’s natural for humans to try and control. And what better way to try to control something so that your not threatened then slavery.

tj

11/7/09, 14:59:pm

Slavery no. But discrimination yes! Jim crow yes! Affirmative Action would be thrown out! And HBCU’s would become illegal. That’s a fact. People’s civil rights can not be put to a vote.

Queenb2001

11/7/09, 15:00:pm

buggin_out

_________________________________________

VERY WELL SAID. I ONLY WISH MOST PEOPLE SAW THAT THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT CIVIL HUMANS RIGHTS AND THE HYPOCRISY OF THE GOVERMENT, AND NOT JUST SAME-SEX RIGHTS.

Symone

11/7/09, 15:00:pm

What is wrong with pink people today? First coco, now this mickey fickey!

cdub

11/7/09, 15:03:pm

We have slavery now! All of our clothes, consumer goods, etc. are made by slave labor in countries where workers have zero rights. We have sex slavery in our cities. Right in San Francisco for instance, there are sex parlors where women from Asia are being forced to be prostitutes. etc.

So the governor is right, the United States has zero problem with slavery. We utilize it to this day.

Symone

11/7/09, 15:05:pm

Yes, I do get that he was just trying to make a point.

lmfao yeah right

11/7/09, 15:06:pm

@Queenbe2001

White people fear bringing back slavery because they know if they even tried they would be killed off. They would like to but they know if they did it would result in their own downfall. Let a white man try to force me into slavery, that would be the last breath of air he would ever take.

facefacts

11/7/09, 15:14:pm

LOL white folks are the only ones who was slavery back…but let the whites be the slaves and yes the voting poll break record numbers worldwide!!! there’s not a single culture that hasn’t been affected by some greedy digusting white people…..

zara

11/7/09, 15:15:pm

We are in slavery just because we are not picking cotton does not mean we are not slaves. We are in advance slavery DUH white man is smart.

Its6amHoGetOut, still retiring 12/31/09 at 5pm.

11/7/09, 15:23:pm

If black politicians in georgia, alabama, mississippi, arkansas, etc would get together and control these ignorant ***** n*ggas I wouldnt be trying to raise money to “build a wall around the deep south to protect black people from *****S”

I know yall agree with me.

bleever22407

11/7/09, 15:32:pm

Of course I believe what he says. Look at what is going on with our President, he gets absolutely no respect, irregardless of his accomplishments. People claim to want change but in the end they really don’t.

not_a_bossip_clown

11/7/09, 15:41:pm

I think the South should secede, because we in the North have grown tired of having to send our tax money to keep them afloat, all those Southern States are really “welfare States” living off the North and West of America, the real America.
Let kick the South out of OUR union, they are only dragging us down, in Health Care, Education etc.

Yoda

11/7/09, 16:24:pm

What is he talking about, we are still in slavery; mental slavery. Slavery to materialism, slavery to self hatred, slavery jacked up economies and economics, slavery to commercialism, slavery to ignorance, and that’s just black people, but even non blacks are slaves. Slaves of hate, slaves of organized religions; we are subliminally raped slaves.

Shawn Jones

11/7/09, 16:26:pm

neenee

11/7/09, 16:33:pm

@Othello
We in the u.s. are not already in slavery. There are real people all over the world living as slaves. To say you’re somehow anything close to a slave because of lack of opportunity while waiting for someone to “let” you get ahead is just laziness and completely disrespectful to the estimated millions of men, women, and children actually enslaved around the world. Do the reading and support the organizations trying to abolish slavery in the modern world

The point I was refrencing, was not about opportunity being an issue. I’m referring to the slaverish mentality that so many black people exercise. If you are enslaved mentally, then you are worse off than being enslaved physically. What you fail to realize this is the core of the foundation of American policies and regulation. It’s not set fairly especially for blacks and minorities. It may seem that way to you, but you need to think and look outside your slaverish menatality.

Shawamar

11/7/09, 16:38:pm

Funny how everyone *****umed it would be Minorities (blacks) in slavery again.
Im all for it, as it states in the Bible,for Caucasians. Its their turn..

Jimi

11/7/09, 17:12:pm

Actually, I cant argue with his point. If it were left up to some people, say Bill O’Reilly or ***** Cheney, slavery would definitely be here again. This is why we have democracy in America, so that everyone has a chance to voice their opinions.

Inglewood Hustle

11/7/09, 18:11:pm

Hate to say it but…he’s right.
Just about any law could p***** if it’s worded right and endorsed by the “Right” people.

People don’t READ any more. Put the right face on it with the right commercial. It’ll p*****.

Ask a Black Dude

11/7/09, 18:22:pm

Man…For all the people of color that the white man wronged in this country,to get some pay back,it would take a century or two.How many would be left to work the fields,let alone to hand some over to the World’s People of Color that would want their rightful turn of justice!

celia

11/7/09, 18:42:pm

jesse is SO right!!!

rothschild

11/7/09, 18:43:pm

Definitely. All of the red states would elect that one hands down. Ventura has a point though. Sometimes you gotta take the wheel.

John Smith

11/7/09, 18:56:pm

Yes there would be slavery if the people were allowed to vote on it. During a recession, America would love to have to free labor.

Sexy Chocolate

11/7/09, 18:59:pm

Jesse is right. Americans have no clue.

tall eye

11/7/09, 19:14:pm

It would be one of the more contentious votes ever, but I believe that we would not vote for slavery (by a thin margin). What I would like to remind people is that slavery has been around for thousands of years and it’s not just white people that have practiced it. Greed knows no racial or ethnic barriers.

lamar maddox

11/7/09, 19:34:pm

It went right over your heads, didn’t it Bossip?

Arkansas has spoken

11/7/09, 19:43:pm

shut up your monkey face hannibal you are not funny at all and if i was anywhere near you i would make your face look like a pancake with my fist

bria

11/7/09, 19:48:pm

America would burn first before that ever happens. People of a lighter persu*****ion are not ready for the consequences of that.

yank and ***** rhyme for a reason

11/7/09, 21:45:pm

You idiots are ridiculous blaming all WHITE people for this. Sure white people are SOME of the problem but so are some non whites! You’ll never get anywhere if you continue blaming whites all the time.

GQJoe

11/7/09, 22:27:pm

@elhaq…absolutely right. 80% of the prisons are private. 12 are publicly traded each with market caps above $750 million. Since 1986, remember the War on Drugs, private prisons have made….wait for it..wait for it…..$16 trillion. Slavery in America is alive, well & thriving. When they say keep your “cotton pickin money,” they meant it.

deesac

11/7/09, 23:23:pm

I for sure can tell you that georgia is definitly still a slavery state

othello

11/7/09, 23:29:pm

@neenee

Wow you’ve completely missed the point. smh

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWSHADDAAAP!!!!!

11/7/09, 23:54:pm

That copy is crap. I am exasperated with this ongoing blatant disregard for anything grammatically correct. You just don’t care at all, do you?

Having said that, I think Jesse’s statement is more a reflection of deep rooted political opinions he may hold and not so much that of the nations.

banks

11/7/09, 23:55:pm

I don’t know about today, letting the states decide whether to be a slave state or not didn’t work; Lincoln had to step in, and a war followed. Later, women’s and African-American suffrage were handled federally, rather than left to the states. Basically, the states aren’t trusted with social change. And I agree they shouldn’t be…

Geebz

11/8/09, 01:49:am

How can his example be taken so wrong? If a proposition is worded in a certain way, people would be foolish enough to vote for it no matter how ridiculous or outlandish it may be in reality. Do you all understand what the man was suggesting? He was saying that if the wording is slick enough, the general public would vote for something as sinister as slavery. damn. pick up a book…preferably a dictionary. I understand one or two words but this phonetic spelling is dampening my hopes for the future.

Hannigothairyballz

11/8/09, 05:34:am

Wow, the first poster is ignorant as sh it

Al

11/8/09, 09:46:am

He is right, we would have slavery again in a New York second. And the saddest part of that scenario would be that fools that were against it would just look at the amendment on the ballot:not read, not understand it–and vote for it, despite being black.

JC 'o Bklyn

11/8/09, 11:26:am

Ventura speaks the truth. The only reason why some people would not vote to have slavery back is ’cause of technology/computer.

mr. realism

11/8/09, 11:51:am

@ darealist352 and elhaq… I”m so tired of ppl *****in about the prison system… reality check: most of the people in prison for drug charges are guilty anyways… so these are not innocent victims so lets stop it.

neenee

11/8/09, 16:33:pm

@Othello

neenee

11/8/09, 16:34:pm

@othello
No, I think you missed the point.

asds

11/8/09, 18:14:pm

i think it would be, especially, when white lawmakers can look at people w/ no healthcare, while having it themselves, and say, you dont need it. and say it with conviction, too w/o batting an eye

ghostboi

11/8/09, 19:21:pm

If they start slavery again, they should make redneck white people slaves also. They’ve proven to be a bunch of low lives.

sexzlady

11/8/09, 21:20:pm

Point taken and agreed with….that was the big issue with Prop 8 to begin with, it was vote NO if u were FOR IT….ppl dont read they just press buttons slavery could easily come back with some these ignorant ppl voting

cocoa

11/8/09, 23:38:pm

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE LETS BE REAL LOOK AT THE EDUCATION IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY ITS NOT HITTING ON NOTHING IF YOU CANT GET A EDUCATION WHAT CAN YOU DO IN LIFE SO THAT BEING SAID PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WHATS NEEDED TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES I DONT CONDONE SELLING DRUGS BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I AM A MOTHER AND IF I HAD TO SELL DRUGS TO FEED MY KIDS I WILL. A GROWN MAN IS NOT GONNA SIT A TAKE A MIN WAGE JOB BECAUSE THATS ALL THE WHITE MAN WANT THEM TO HAVE A REAL MAN IS GONNA DO WHATS NEEDED TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IS WEAK BECAUSE THATS THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED BY THE WHITE MAN, WHEN IN SLAVERY DID WHITES WANTS BLACKS TO LEARN ANYTHING? NEVER AND ITS THE SAME WAY NOW. BLACKS FOUND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY THE WHITES DONT LIKE IT THATS WHY THEY GET LONGER JAIL TIME I DIDNT SAY ALL I WANTED TO SAY BUT JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A SEC……

Ian P

11/9/09, 07:36:am

Yes I agree, I have found that people are weak and they will go with the flow. Now a days people are mindless and are easily scared see how people put bush in power. Its truely the end of days

GORRILLAMACK

11/9/09, 09:32:am

I think they would considering how many states are predominate rural white. Even the white liberals are still racist. If they had a chance to control the black race even more than they do now, of course they would do it. No more Kanye West’s no more 50 Cents. They would do it in a heart beat.

Cat

11/9/09, 09:50:am

I think that if “they” could get away with it “they” would try to bring slavery back, maybe not just enslaving African Americans but perhaps another race that is low on the totem pole. But the fact is that “they” could never get away with it again! There would such a m*****ive revolution and *****ody would stand for it because unlike long ago — WE CAN READ( most of us), WE ARE EDUCATED( most of us even though we don’t always show it), & WE KNOW OUR BASIC RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS. Can you imagine trying to enslave the most ignorant thug on the corner ??— even his dumb ***** wouldn’t stand for that madness. Also I would like to say that not only would people of color not stand for it there are some whites that wouldn’t allow it either. Racism/ ignorance still exists but we have come a bit further than being someone’s property…. I hope.

t

11/9/09, 10:12:am

if you believe for one second that if slavery came back it would be mexicans and not blacks you are kidding yourself. they would chain yo black as sup so fast and yes i think if a slavery bill did not p*****, it would come close to p*****ing and it definitely would not just be for mexicans.

t

11/9/09, 10:18:am

there are plenty of educated blacks with good jobs. if you dont want to work for the “white man” get an eduation and open your own business. selling drugs is lazy and a cop out and its stupidity at its finest. you’re only ruining your own ppl and communities. dont blame it on the schools, blame it on the parents. we must raise our children, get them from in front of the tv constantly , make them read a book at while instead of only requiring it when its for a school project. these type of work ethics can be embedded in a child if the parent(s) are responsible and involved. no one HAs to sell drugs to make it, its a choice. maybe after theyve messed up a few times and their in the system but i truly believe even then if you put your mind to it and truly want to go down a different path you can. my mom, my brothers, and myself have always been poor but we’ve always made it and none of us have ever sold drugs. no need for it and again, the rewards that you reap from it distributes pain throughout your communities. there’s nothing good or necessary about it

God's Child

11/9/09, 11:12:am

I totally agree him.

lawd da mercy

11/9/09, 11:20:am

You can’t compair a sexual preference to a race/tribe. Come on!

Jer-z Girl

11/9/09, 11:20:am

1. I think a lot of us are missing the point of the Gov’s comment. He was trying to say that double talk confuses as many people today as yesterday. Voting No to prop 8 meant yes and voting yes meant no. It was trickery.

2. Everyone thinks that it would be racial slavery when it’s just a likely to be gender based. So many women in this country (white/asian/latino/black/ indian) don’t really understand that if american men could remove us from the work place and strip us of our rights they would do it quick fast an in a hurry. Most men think they’re better than us and would love to “put us back in our place”. White women are especially in the dark. They really think that white men in the work place wouldn’t get rid of them when the rest of us. Well, honey, you’ve got another think coming!

Happy Monday everybody.

IZ ERYBODY LOST??

11/9/09, 11:28:am

What??? who actually thinks that some white folks can come around and enslave blacks or latins…You crazy if you think they would win. 1st both races are the minority but much so the Majority meaning that when them white folks come to the hood, it’s gone be war fare…I know fa sho JUST MY BLOCK AINT HAVING THAT NONSENSE.

IZ ERYBODY LOST??

11/9/09, 11:33:am

On a serious note, i totally agree. Bossip makes up B.S stories all the time that is clearly and unequivocally the furthest from the truth but yet bloggers are quick to agree or side with the majority. the power of suggestion is a motherfucca. we are a naive generation of people, we gotta get it together and soon.

laaame

11/9/09, 13:08:pm

why do people always equate homosexuality with slavery?

having much melanin in your skin is not the same as putting your ***** in another man’s butt.

Mimi

11/9/09, 14:24:pm

Yes, he is correct. Many back woods country areas of certain states would make a vote for slavery go through. And it would just be a vote. Good luck putting it into action. I don’t care who they’re trying to enslave, it would never happen.

@Laaame – Agreed.

@Jer-z girl – I totally disagree with your second point. As for the first point, if that’s what he means, then he should’ve been in Cali when that campaign was happening. This was a BIG deal, needless to say, and folks who were voting were well aware of what their votes meant. Trust me. *****ody thought a yes vote meant legalization of same-sex marriage. There was too much heavy campaigning and too many very clear lines being drawn for that kind of confusion. It was truly the only thing you heard about leading up to election day.

DvynneDesire1982

11/9/09, 15:29:pm

It’s 2009 and we are still listening to ignorance. For those who are so close minded to even say that slavery would be put back into to place for what ever reason, is beyond stupid. Yes I am black, I am a registered voter and I vote when the polls call me to vote…I do so…I listen and pay attention to what’s being said. I do my own research. Do not agree with this dumb comment from a former wrestler turned former governor. This is just ridiculous. Some of you are just to sad for words…I mean how dare you belittle and demean us as a people to agree with this ignorance? Read a book and gain some knowledge…if not for your own sake do it for the sake of those who have to respect you and these blog sites, instead of telling you what we really think of you.