Is Precious Sending the Wrong Message About Black People??

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November 23rd, 2009

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With Precious opening nationwide in over 100 markets over the weekend, the African-American community has mixed views on whether the film displays a good or bad depiction of the black family. A lot of people are coining it a new age “Color Purple.”  What are your thoughts? More on this under the hood.

“In some ways, it’s ‘The Color Purple’ all over again, with people writing and talking about what this film represents,” said Mark Anthony Neal, a professor who teaches black popular culture at Duke University.

A father repeatedly rapes and impregnates his daughter in “The Color Purple” (as does the father in “Precious”), enraging some critics (mostly men) who asserted that the book and the film treated black men harshly. “Precious” has avoided that kind of backlash, but “people are suspicious of narratives that don’t put us in the best light,” Professor Neal said. The roots of that suspicion, he said, can be found in a long history of negative images in popular culture that helped keep black people in their place by reinforcing the notion of their inferiority.

Professor Neal was among dozens of black people interviewed about their perspectives on “Precious.” Perhaps the most provocative salvo against the movie was fired by Armond White, the chief film critic of The New York Press and the chairman of the New York Film Critics Circle.

“Not since ‘The Birth of a Nation’ has a mainstream movie demeaned the idea of black American life as much as ‘Precious,’ ” Mr. White wrote in his review. “Full of brazenly racist clichés (Precious steals and eats an entire bucket of fried chicken), it is a sociological horror show.”

For some who have seen the film, it serves as an eye opener to issues faced in the black home that are swept under the rug, and to others it seems to demean the black home with false depictions and stereotypes.  How do you all feel about the film? Let’s discuss.

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715 Responses to “Is Precious Sending the Wrong Message About Black People??”

    drenk

    11/23/09, 09:32:am

    tyle perry has done way more damage than this movie ever could

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:34:am

    Monique sucks…She fake suga!

    Michelle

    11/23/09, 09:34:am

    I refuse to go see Precious for the reasons Mr. White gives. Why is so much attention being given to a story that is filled with negative depictions of the black family and reinforces stereotypes about the black community? Why wasn’t the same attention given to films such as the Tuskegee Airman and The Great Debaters?

    Angee

    11/23/09, 09:34:am

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:34:am

    Black people have done more damage than any movie could ever do

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:36:am

    Thats y nothing ever gets solved in our community cause we always trying to sweep our faults under the rug…Black kids get abused…Talk about it already!!!

    Angee

    11/23/09, 09:37:am

    Why do Black people have to shoulder everything? Every Black movie that is made is not about you!! Damn!

    Angee

    11/23/09, 09:38:am

    Why does this have to be a Black community issue??

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:39:am

    Focus people!!!

    Honor students in Chicago getting beat to death with a 2×4…Mothers selling there 5yr old daughter in to prostitution…TYLER PERRY is not the problem…LOL…What a joke

    With sses like these him and Madea shouldnt be on our minds or in the conversation

    drenk

    11/23/09, 09:39:am

    @ Michelle

    i think the tuskegee airman was an HBO movie so it didnt get that huge release and press buzz

    love her

    11/23/09, 09:40:am

    Angee

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!
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    agreed!

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:41:am

    @ Angee

    I agree Angee…But this one is dammit…LOL

    lawd da mercy

    11/23/09, 09:41:am

    You have to change the current state of reality if you want to send a more positive message.

    Can any one person do that?

    Fiyah

    11/23/09, 09:41:am

    If you think Precious is a part of the problem, you are too.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 09:41:am

    Ummmm, last time I checked the stuff that happened to the child in this movie is also likely happing to other children in backwoods trailor parks as well…abuse has no skin tone. Sometimes I think black folks, especially ‘educated’ black folks can be tooooooo sensitive…

    Michelle

    11/23/09, 09:41:am

    True, drenk…. and Angee, I agree, with your statement but, where is the balance? It seems like those movies that depict blacks as being downtrodden are the ones that get the most publicity.

    Whaaaa

    11/23/09, 09:44:am

    It’s not about black people and in no way parallels Color Purple. The Color Purple was enjoyable, had laughs and lines that are repeateded by millions. You can watch it over and over. Precious is about horrific abuse. It’s painful to watch from start to finish. It leaves you nauseated. It could have been white people, hispanic, asian….it’s not a black issue.

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 09:44:am

    Haven’t seen it yet but will and I do not think that Tyler Perry has created damage for the black community the black community creates it own damage and still people won’t chnage from there wicked and destructive ways as we speak…

    IS Tyler Perry on her calling all black woman B***t and H**s no… Is Tyler Perry letting there minds be conformed to black sterotypes no that would be us again… Is Tyler Perry making babies and leaving them in unhealthy situations no that is us again… We created so we are the ones who have to change it and it first starts with us.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:45:am

    THE MOVIE IS CALLED PRECIOUS…LOL

    Its about black folks…Cuz no other race named they kids this!!!

    Jess

    11/23/09, 09:45:am

    I am a hispanic 20 yr. old female and after having seen the movie yesteday I did not leave the theatre thinking it was an African American issue. The movie was truly moving,it was eye opening. I left astonished at the fact that this type of stuff really does happen,in all kinds of ethnicities. Such was the case with John and Mackenzie Phillips, as far as the incest goes.

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 09:45:am

    Angee

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!
    _________________________________________________
    I love black people but we take accepting abuse to it next level, It took 300 years to break out spirits through slavery and it might take just as long to come up out of the ditch in this life..

    Fiyah

    11/23/09, 09:46:am

    PLEASE NOTE: This movie IS NOT a Tyler Perry Production. He threw his support and money behind this film AFTER it was made. PLEASE DON’T confuse this movie with a Tyler Perry debacle. Thank you.

    BettyBoop

    11/23/09, 09:47:am

    I think this is a movie and should stay at that. This is a serious issue, but people need to appreciate the movie and stop trying to make everything a color issue. I mean if that is the case then black people should do away with hip hop music and BET because we all know how they make black people look too.

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 09:48:am

    Romello

    THE MOVIE IS CALLED PRECIOUS…LOL

    Its about black folks…Cuz no other race named they kids this!!!
    ___________________________________________________
    Actually I meet a lot of other races that names there children abnormal names… And on the flip side what makes anything normal these other than bias opinions that are forced as the norm for our day and time…

    Simone

    11/23/09, 09:48:am

    Oh Wow.
    Why Is Everybody So Damn Sensitive?!
    The Movie Is Not Meant To Single Out Black People Like Omygosh All Black People Rape && Abuse Their Kids…NOO.
    It’s Basically Just SHowing That It IS Out There. That SituatiOns Like This DO Happen, Its Not A Black Thing.
    Smh.

    Monee

    11/23/09, 09:48:am

    This movie isn’t about black people. We are so damn defensive about everything. There are so many races that have went through situations similar. Shaniya Davis… her father was white. Did anybody say anthing about Jenny in Forest Gump and what her father was doing to her? Making this a race issue is so ingorant. Whether we believe it or not, things do happen and I bet there are people of many races that would give a testiment to that!!!

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 09:49:am

    Angee

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!
    ________________________________________

    Angee…Angee…Angee…my poor mislead child. Do you know this movie was financed by a white couple who put up as much as 12 million dollars to get this movie done?

    Do you know who hooped and hollered in the aisles when the final credits started rolling?

    Do you know what academy is considering giving this movie and it’s actors/actresses accolades when the next Academy Awards role around?

    All WHITES! Not Blacks, not Latin folk, not Asians…

    Whites!

    Now let’s bring this into perspective.

    Blacks always want a champion of the battered, abused, slavery lifestyle that many claim to suffer from…blah, blah, blah…

    When in reality all Blacks want is to wallow in sorrow for things that have never happened to them. And let me tell you from one abuse victim to the movie…

    When someone has gone through abuse, they NEVER want to see what has happened to them on the big screen! That’s like saying you love to watch gang movies seeing Shorty Black’s lil brother get shot because he was short $5 on the crack deal and you can identify with that. Does it make it wonderful to see him get shot knowing it happened to your little brother? If it does, you are a disturbed individual…

    as would ANYONE who can identify with a movie character when movies are an imitation of REAL LIFE! Not the other way around! And that’s what’s wrong with society. If you put a star’s face behind an event that brings NO happiness to someone in real life, you still run to see it just to have that glow inside and it hasn’t benefited one abuse victim on the real streets.

    Who is this movie honestly going to help? huh? Girls in the Bronx? Maybe the southside of Chicago? Maybe Southeast D.C.? Better yet you think girls in Compton are going to appreciate this movie when it’s THEM experiencing this trauma?

    The answer to all the above is no!

    Abuse is NOTHING that should be glamorized in movies but it is. And I speak, ONCE AGAIN from the viewpoint of an abuse victim…certain things in life you just want to put behind you and move on…never wanting to relive it through some actor or actress who has never even gone through that experience.

    It is not going to help anyone to see this movie. The real help comes in real life, not spending money on this film to see what really happens all the time.

    Effin Negros

    11/23/09, 09:50:am

    black people are never satisfied, no one owes us anything, get over urselves, the more we act like this, the more we will never foward ourselves. Plus it a movie based on real life events, so nothing is made up, thats how some families are.

    Aunt Viv

    11/23/09, 09:51:am

    @ Bossip,

    How do you expect us to discuss when you’re constantly blocking comments?!?!?

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:52:am

    @ resurrected

    I’m sure you do meet other races whose kids have different names…But they arent the topic of discussion…

    PRECIOUS is…And thats “Black Folk,” name…And stop the psycho babble…This is a gossip blog!!!

    Cutie82

    11/23/09, 09:52:am

    People! Abuse happens in the Black community!! The movie forces us to recognize this reality!!! We as Black people need to stop acting like this type of stuff does not happen. That’s the problem!! Tyler Perry is not the problem. We are when we ignore things like sexual abuse. Also, we need to stop talking about movies are giving the Black community a bad name, if we were more open about what happened in our community, we wouldn’t be so sensitive everytime somebody “aired our business.” Yes abuse is hurtful, embarrasing, makes you feel dirty and unloved, and this movie depicted just that! Bottom line – - it’s reality and not just a Black issue!

    you know

    11/23/09, 09:52:am

    its just a movie

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:53:am

    Will people pls stop writing research papers for comments…LOL

    Less is more friends

    Greg

    11/23/09, 09:56:am

    Why is everything about us, why can’t a movie be simply a movie that deals with an issue that affects all races, I swear if we mobilized against the actual foolishness that is really in our communites we might get somewhere, but let chime in and blame precious, the two robots in transformers and the jacksons for whats wrong with the black community

    Greg

    11/23/09, 09:56:am

    Why is everything about us, why can’t a movie be simply a movie that deals with an issue that affects all races, I swear if we mobilized against the actual foolishness that is really in our communites we might get somewhere, but let me chime in and blame precious, the two robots in transformers and the jacksons for whats wrong with the black community

    Angee

    11/23/09, 09:57:am

    @KeepNit2Real

    I refuse to dwell on who financed the movie.

    My childhood best friend (Black woman) was molested as a child, and here is what she had to say about it:

    “Read the BOOK FIRST. Although incest and child molestation is not often talked about, it happens to more people than you care to know. It can and has happened to someone you may know, it is those individuals who have experienced being molested who will be more in tune with the topic and the events that took place in both the movie as well as the book. I think the director did a fantastic job telling the story from both a visual stand point to make such a taboo subject and put it right in your face. Those of you who may not have experienced such acts, Thank God! Those of you who have still Thank God, that you survived to break that situation and not let the situation break you! “

    Aunt Viv

    11/23/09, 09:58:am

    I personally do not want to see “Precious” because I read “Push” a long time ago, and am always disappointed when books get turned into movies.

    However, even though this movie is a work of fiction, what it depicts are issues that unfortunately do exist in our community, and that are too uncomfortable for some to accept. But we are a multi-faceted people, with many beautiful traits and cultures, and knowing that, this movie doesn’t offend me.

    bighead

    11/23/09, 09:58:am

    I won’t even watch this movie when it comes to video. Can’t we get past these overcoming hood oppression films. Movies like this stay in our minds and cause unnecessary anxiety.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 09:59:am

    @ GREG

    Hey them 2 robots was racist…Y they went after Tyrese so hard in the movie man…

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 09:59:am

    Romello

    @ resurrected

    I’m sure you do meet other races whose kids have different names…But they arent the topic of discussion…

    PRECIOUS is…And thats “Black Folk,” name…And stop the psycho babble…This is a gossip blog!!!
    ___________________________________________
    Well you are the one who are speaking words and comments that are not the discussion at hand… Look I can say what ever I want and you are the average smart mouth person filling big talking S**t behind a computer screen .. And B****T Babble is as babble does and any conservation is up for discussion and do you own this blog or something, if not the STFU… You are just the average s**t talker and some one who loves to create hate like many blogger on here…

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 10:00:am

    Michelle

    True, drenk…. and Angee, I agree, with your statement but, where is the balance? It seems like those movies that depict blacks as being downtrodden are the ones that get the most publicity.
    ________________________________________________

    Agreed. Once again, I say the people who REALLY loved this movie where the White contingency! And Black folks STILL don’t get it! It’s nothing more than a minstrel show on a higher level.

    I can’t even recall a movie about a young Black girl with a successful outcome due to a GOOD situation to start with when the film was written by a White guy!

    As much as I love Sanaa Lathan, she’s always a victim of something in her movies….EVEN though her characters have a success rate higher than the average Black women.

    She’s been a victim of love, bad relationships and untimely deaths in many of her films! And people don’t get this.

    But yet, Jennifer Aniston is always having some Prince Charming sweeping her off her feet or some guy coming to her rescue…or no matter how clumsily she stumbles into love, it all works out.

    Tsk, tsk, tsk…Hollyweird pulling the wool over Black folks eyes in the theaters…*smh*

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:00:am

    @ KeepNit2Real

    WTH Are You Talking ABout?!
    Angee Didn’t Say Anything About Any Of The Things You Are Talking About.
    Confuzzled, AnyOne Else??!

    chaka1

    11/23/09, 10:02:am

    I can’t believe we are having this conversation. Look around you. Most families are screwed up. There is nothing wrong with this movie. This movie is just telling a compelling story.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:03:am

    Blah!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 10:03:am

    Will people pls stop writing research papers for comments…LOL

    Less is more friends
    _____________________________________
    Been screaming this forever!!!

    oneluve

    11/23/09, 10:04:am

    It is a movie. Its entertainment. Only black people would turn this movie into a race issue. Come on people it is 2009. Everything does not have to do with race. And no one should be offended because it is a movie derived from a book, fictional at that. Black people need to stop being so damn touchy. This kind of ignorance annoys me. We need to quit worrying about stupid mess like this and worry about ourselves.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:05:am

    Will people pls stop writing research papers for comments…LOL

    Less is more friends
    ————————–
    Lol @ That.
    You Think Im Writing Research Papers?!
    Idk, Maybe I Talk Too Much. Lol.

    drenk

    11/23/09, 10:05:am

    HOW DID FAIZON LOVE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO DO COUPLES THERAPY AND PRECIOUS IN ONE YEAR…? Thas hard workin actor right there

    Why?

    11/23/09, 10:06:am

    Although this is an entertainment MOVIE, it is one that addresses underlying issues in our community that need voices, young women who need help and the reason to why so many of our black women are so bitter (not all cases but probably a majority).

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 10:06:am

    I refuse to dwell on who financed the movie.

    My childhood best friend (Black woman) was molested as a child, and here is what she had to say about it:

    “Read the BOOK FIRST. Although incest and child molestation is not often talked about, it happens to more people than you care to know. It can and has happened to someone you may know, it is those individuals who have experienced being molested who will be more in tune with the topic and the events that took place in both the movie as well as the book. I think the director did a fantastic job telling the story from both a visual stand point to make such a taboo subject and put it right in your face. Those of you who may not have experienced such acts, Thank God! Those of you who have still Thank God, that you survived to break that situation and not let the situation break you! “
    _______________________________________________

    Does that mean the movie is still helping those I mentioned in my first reply? You speak of one person.

    Get on the ground level and think of who this movie is really going to help. It’s a good thing your friend was able to identify. But, in the end, wold this movie have helped her psychologically. I don’t think so.

    Sometimes people relive events to help them make sense of it and never come to an understanding of why it happened to them in the first place.

    My mom has a friend who expressed just that. There were several media outlets for what she experienced. But she never had closure. Movies couldn’t do that, books couldn’t do it, it was only talking to other people and getting several perspectives on that that helped her.

    This movie is NOT meant to replace a real life help channel.

    If it has done that for people, my hat off to them…but I can guarantee there are still many unanswered questions about why things like this have happened to them.

    And your reply STILL doesn’t speak for our nation…only your friend from how you put it.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 10:07:am

    @ resurrected

    LOL…Sensitive sensitive r we…

    Y u telling me to STFU…I was typing not talking…And u say I’m the one saying “ish” behind a computer…LOL…Calm down!

    It really is just a gossip blog…Jeez…ok…Precious is not just a black name…Goodness

    Pls…Don’t sister girl me to death again!!!

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 10:08:am

    Simone

    @ KeepNit2Real

    WTH Are You Talking ABout?!
    Angee Didn’t Say Anything About Any Of The Things You Are Talking About.
    Confuzzled, AnyOne Else??!
    _____________________________________________

    shut up and have some coffee…

    Kierah

    11/23/09, 10:10:am

    Pleeeease do not do this again people!
    The acting in this movie is superb. As with The Color Purple, these same critics will have their lips poked out because the film was recognized by the Oscars. The Academy will not recognize what WE do not support. Yes there have been far more positive movies, but the acting/directing skills weren’t there.

    LaLa

    11/23/09, 10:10:am

    Stop blaming a movie, blame yourself.
    ABUSE HAPPENS IN ALL RACES!

    Flack

    11/23/09, 10:12:am

    What disturbs me most about this film is that the evil abusers are dark skinned and the comp*****ionate and caring people are light skinned. The actors playing the caring ones are Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey. All biracial. Anyone who believes this is coincidental has no idea how much thought goes into the casting process.

    free

    11/23/09, 10:13:am

    “Full of brazenly racist clichés (Precious steals and eats an entire bucket of fried chicken), it is a sociological horror show.”

    **********************************************

    not the old fried chicken thing again…. we’re up to crab legs now.

    tg

    11/23/09, 10:15:am

    I haven’t seen it yet, but I’d bet my last dollar, it’s a modern day Color Purple. But STILL, I heard it was very good. Nothing wrong with making modern day versions. They do it all the time with other movies. If it’s good, it’s good.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:15:am

    Simone

    @ KeepNit2Real

    WTH Are You Talking ABout?!
    Angee Didn’t Say Anything About Any Of The Things You Are Talking About.
    Confuzzled, AnyOne Else??!
    _____________________________________________

    shut up and have some coffee…

    ———————————–
    LmaOo. Already Had SOme ThaNks.
    But Thats Not Answering My QuestiOn…
    ???

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 10:16:am

    Flack

    What disturbs me most about this film is that the evil abusers are dark skinned and the comp*****ionate and caring people are light skinned. The actors playing the caring ones are Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey. All biracial. Anyone who believes this is coincidental has no idea how much thought goes into the casting process.
    ______________________________

    Thank you! my work here is done…on to the rest of Bossip garbage stories…heh

    Izzymom

    11/23/09, 10:16:am

    I saw this movie on Friday and it was actually pretty good. The problem ppl are having with this movie is silly. It’s a movie! While these things actually happen, THIS MOVIE is based on a NOVEL! I don’t understand y ppl are so concerned about what other races think about a movie! If ppl are so small minded to think that black ppl are what they saw in that movie then they are ignorant! All black ppl aren’t like that just like all white ppl aren’t like the ones u may c n a movie! Those “movie critics” are missing that exact point!

    Close Bossip

    11/23/09, 10:18:am

    No, the movie Precious doesn’t show black people in a bad light. Abuse occurs in all families: poor, wealthly, middle cl*****, black, white, red and yellow.

    Abuse is very real in families and it should be brought to light. We never want to talk about and help to resolve issues in our own community. It is SAD! SAD! SAD!

    Romello

    11/23/09, 10:21:am

    lol

    Moreaces

    11/23/09, 10:21:am

    Romello

    Thats y nothing ever gets solved in our community cause we always trying to sweep our faults under the rug…Black kids get abused…Talk about it already!!!
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    Co-sign

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:27:am

    Flack

    What disturbs me most about this film is that the evil abusers are dark skinned and the comp*****ionate and caring people are light skinned. The actors playing the caring ones are Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey. All biracial. Anyone who believes this is coincidental has no idea how much thought goes into the casting process.
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    Are You Effin Kidding Me?!
    WTH Does That Mean?!
    That Is A RidiculOus Thing To Say Forreal.
    IgnOrant Too.
    Smh @ Some Of Yall Forreal..

    Silent Swagg

    11/23/09, 10:29:am

    the movie is real whether u like it or not..
    it was very good and it gives a good picture of what some families go through

    Aunt Viv

    11/23/09, 10:29:am

    @ Fiyah,
    “PLEASE NOTE: This movie IS NOT a Tyler Perry Production. He threw his support and money behind this film AFTER it was made. PLEASE DON’T confuse this movie with a Tyler Perry debacle. Thank you.”
    _____________________________________________________
    Thank you for the clarification-if it was a Tyler Perry production, I wouldn’t have seen it either.

    STEFANY

    11/23/09, 10:31:am

    I don’t think this movie will have a negative effect on black people, white people already have their minds made up about us, the ones that are racist will always look for the worst in our commonity and take that as the truth..If a Havard educated black president with a Harvard/Princeston educated wife is still catching hell, what does that say for the rest of us..The black race is the only race that has to defend itself from stereotypes, if you’re stupid enough to believe that ALL black people are what a few bad apples represent, then shame on you.

    Blu Rain

    11/23/09, 10:31:am

    Please!!! Black people send the wrong message about black people! This is simply a movie, which is telling a story. Period!

    Moreaces

    11/23/09, 10:32:am

    Simone

    Will people pls stop writing research papers for comments…LOL

    Less is more friends
    ————————–
    Lol @ That.
    You Think Im Writing Research Papers?!
    Idk, Maybe I Talk Too Much. Lol.

    =================
    Where are you from? Just curious

    ImaPrettychicke

    11/23/09, 10:33:am

    This movie was about bad parenting. Happens everywhere.

    Bad parenting #1 mother sells her fiver-year-old daughter to a pervert, knowing he will rape her.

    Bad parenting #2 father and mother plead guilty to charges stemming from that “balloon boy” escapade

    Bad parenting #3 Elderly West Virginia man wins one of the biggest lotteries in history. His only teenage granddaughter is literally given “anything” she wants but not before said gentleman divorces his wife of umpteen years, begins to go to bars and hang out with strippers. The granddaughter crashes a car, he gets her another. She crashes it. He buys her another. Four cars in all. She doesn’t go to school. Dropped out of high school. She gets high on meth all day with her friends. One day, she overdoses and dies. Her friends panic and hides her body under a tracter. Real story.

    So, while the outcome was a “negative-socio cycle breaking outcome” that we can all live with, this movie is about bad parenting and how children have to struggle to get beyond the damage some parents can and will do their children.

    Nathaniel

    11/23/09, 10:34:am

    It’s funny to me how black people pick and choose how they want to be depicted in mainstream America. Over half the music artist, movies, etc dumbs us down and portray negative images of us, but yall continue to run and support Tyler Perry, and just about any and all new music artist.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 10:35:am

    This movie was pretty raw. Some I couldn’t take but when it was over it honestly made me very greatful to have never gone through any of this. The book is suppose to be based off a true story and I heard from readers it’s more raw than the actual movie. This is not depicting black people in a negative way…It’s giving a piece of reality.

    Jordan Cohen

    11/23/09, 10:36:am

    Seriously, movies are entertainment. Thats it.
    If you want to be educated, watch PBS or go the museum.
    Sure its going to be based on some stereotypes (because stereotypes come from somewhere), there might even be the paper bag saviors (lighter than a paper bag, youre the movie’s angel) but overall this or any movie will NOT cure anyone.
    If you are dealing with issues, you have to deal with them. Period. Tyler Perry, Madea, Oprah can do nothing for you through that silver screen. If you’re inspired, great. If you’re not, great you paid anyway.
    If you want to worry about anything, worry about how many kids are going to drop out of high school this month, how many kids don’t have anything to eat tonight, why that guy next to you can’t read.
    Those are the things to worry about, not Monique suga.

    BuckIT

    11/23/09, 10:36:am

    Come on people, don’t fall into this ridiculous argument!! This movie was great and so true-to-life; not once during the movie do you sit and tell yourself, “This is ridiculous- this can’t ever happen to ANYONE.” Abuse affects everyone, regardless of race or social status. The movie is a definate eye-openner and you’ll leave the theatre deeply moved by both the story and the acting performances. I definately see Monique in a new light- she was superb.

    Alrighty Then...

    11/23/09, 10:37:am

    I agree w/ the others who say WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT! It happens, it’s not going to stop just because we choose to ignore it. And it’s not a “personal” or “private” thing! I would like to think that this movie has or will inspire young victims to TELL TELL TELL!!! Shout it from the rooftops! All of these sick PERVERTS need to be exposed!
    The children who are or have been abused and molested are NOT alone, and they DO NOT deserve it! They need to know that. This book/movie helps highlight that fact.

    Black people are always worried about our “perception”, well, perception is reality people! If these things didn’t happen, there would be no need for a book and/or a movie, but they do happen, as sick and twisted as it sounds, it happens. Bringing forth the type of dialogue that allows us to discuss it, can’t be a bad thing, IMO.

    Also, I guess it’s true what they say, if you don’t want a N*GGER to know something, put it in the pages of a BOOK. The book has been out for a damn decade, and it’s got to be way worse than the movie could ever be, but I guess that’s not such a big deal, because black folks can’t/don’t read anyway, but turn it into a movie that takes no effort to sit and watch, and it’s a problem!

    SMH… my people, my people….

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 10:37:am

    Nathaniel

    It’s funny to me how black people pick and choose how they want to be depicted in mainstream America. Over half the music artist, movies, etc dumbs us down and portray negative images of us, but yall continue to run and support Tyler Perry, and just about any and all new music artist.
    ________________________________________________
    I do see Tyler Movies as negative but may that is just me but comparing him to many music artist who care nothing about there effects on people especially the youth… This world is crazier and more twisted this the effects that black people can bring… Many races are unraveling as we speak this is a world and human issue not a black issue..

    I am tireeeeed!!!!!!

    11/23/09, 10:38:am

    People need to read the books because this happens in every community. But what I find strange in the black community is that we love to sweep these issues under the rug. Like these sorts of things are taboo in our neck of the woods. Get over it it happens in everyone community, it just so happen to be a black character this time.

    LatoyaRacquel

    11/23/09, 10:38:am

    Well first off the movie does parallel Color Purple. But its true, this type of sickness is very much an issue in 2009. What kills me is how everyone wants to just sweep sht under the rug when it comes to hot topics in the black community. Which is why we have been so affected by the AIDS epidemic. We don’t want to air our dirty laundry. As far as the girl stealing fried chicken,LOL BTW, the critic said that was a stereotype but that girl ain’t get that big eating organic ffoods. Shed light on why we have high BP and diabetes.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 10:42:am

    AughHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…Make the movie reviews and the Color Purple comparisons stop…Pleaseeeeeeee…

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 10:42:am

    I don’t even understand why this is even being made into a black thing…I’ve seen plenty of movies on lifetime that show the exact same thing happening to both white rich families and people that live in trailer parks.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 10:46:am

    Will people pls stop writing research papers for comments…LOL

    Less is more friends
    ————————–
    Lol @ That.
    You Think Im Writing Research Papers?!
    Idk, Maybe I Talk Too Much. Lol.

    =================
    Where are you from? Just curious
    ———————-
    Im From New York City. Why?!

    resurrected

    11/23/09, 10:47:am

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    I don’t even understand why this is even being made into a black thing…I’ve seen plenty of movies on lifetime that show the exact same thing happening to both white rich families and people that live in trailer parks.
    ______________________________________________
    Because the world loves making us the scapegoat for everything but you are as you feel not as other people try to lable you…

    BubbaGoosie

    11/23/09, 10:48:am

    Here we go again,

    why is it that we black people always complain when something has some form of succes for us, then we get scared that it portrays a negative image of us.

    It happened to Chris Rocks good hair too and now Precious which I heard is a GREAT movie, so whyyyyy do people have to start complaining? If anything be proud that all the black actors in the movie is portraying a good image that black people can act real well!

    80's Girl

    11/23/09, 10:48:am

    LISTEN, MY GENTLE BOSSIP READERS!! IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED THIS WORLD IS A CRAZY PLACE, AND PEOPLE, BLACK, WHITE, GREEN AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS. DON’T SLEEP, JUST CHECK BOSSIP’S “JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL OR END OF TIMES PIECES FOR PROOF.

    JB(2days and counting until it's time to eat!)

    11/23/09, 10:48:am

    What bothers me about the movie are the stereotypes. Dark skinned verses light skinned. Why are the people who are light skinned come to her rescue? When we will see a mmovie the other way around?

    elinus noel

    11/23/09, 10:50:am

    I am tried of people trying to save their race from everything: news, movies, plays, ect. Truth comes from whats real, and whats real creates ideas. In this case the novel/movie about a girl named Precious thats has a horrible life and it shows the choices made by her to deal with this life. It is a story like many others that we live everyday. This one happens to be sad, but it happens everyday, don’t hide from the truth. Any race of poeple could have produced, wrote, stared, ect. in this movie, so don’t take that truth away from other races. What, are poeple supposed to make the same movie in all different colors when its a negative so everyone could feel equal or included. People of all races going through the same thing that have heard about or seen any movie like this feels just what the characters are going through! The same people who get offended when a truth is told out loud are the same people who don’t do enough to change a negative truth. Its much easier to hide behind their computers.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 10:51:am

    Why does it always seem perfectly fine for the black woman/black mother to be seen in a negative light but the minute the ills of the black man/black father – or lack thereof – is brought to the forefront there is always some black man out there complaining?

    thats because for too long the black man has had it too easy putting everything on the black cwoman/black mother as he goes unscathed and scottfree for the many things he does to destroy his family and bring down his woman and community. Its time for the black man to open his eyes to the problems he brings on himself, his family – especially his children – and his community and I praise Tyler Perry for doing so.

    Angela Jones

    11/23/09, 10:51:am

    Precious merely depicts the story of one Black family. It doesn’t represent Black family life anymore than the true story of the Mckenzie Phillips family saga represents White family life. Precious is simply sending a message of hope to anyone who has experienced hopelessness that all things are possible if you are determined. We have to stop being so narrow minded thinking that our stories are only about us; our stories are representative of the experiences of mankind.

    STFU

    11/23/09, 10:52:am

    WTF do black people want?? When Bill Cosby tried to present positive images of black middle cl***** family life with the Cosby show, black folks called it unreal. Now, some are complaining about Precious. You can go into any black neighborhood and realize that this movie is not a stereo type. Mental illness is rampant and unaddressed in our community and these types of abusive situations have been ignored for far too long. Plus, just like many have already pointed out..the subject matter in this movie is not exclusive to blacks.

    Sonia

    11/23/09, 10:54:am

    The issue here is that very successful or oscar worthy black movies always deal with negatives stuff about black people. Drugs-Cheating-alcohol-corruption-murder-raping-poor-decease/AIDS-selfiness-greed_
    From Blood Diamond to Training day same stuff.

    I remember Danny Glover couldn’t get the money for his movie about Bruce Toussaint, he claimed the hollywood execs asked him “WHERE IS THE WHITE HERO?”

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 10:55:am

    And how did I know before I even opened up this thread that it was going to be a black man complaining about theway he was justifiably so being seen? SMH!

    U Betta Speak!!

    11/23/09, 10:56:am

    thats because for too long the black man has had it too easy putting everything on the black cwoman/black mother as he goes unscathed and scottfree for the many things he does to destroy his family and bring down his woman and community. Its time for the black man to open his eyes to the problems he brings on himself, his family – especially his children – and his community and I praise Tyler Perry for doing so.

    ——-

    CO-sign 100,000,000%
    The Chris Brown Rihanna situation is a prime example of that!!!

    fabulous

    11/23/09, 11:00:am

    The abuse was horrifying also the LOW self esteem. Lots of us portray that low self esteem by wearing wigs & weaves. We just see what we have as inferior.

    STEFANY

    11/23/09, 11:01:am

    In some ways, it’s ‘The Color Purple’ all over again
    ********************************************
    And what the hell was wrong with ‘The Color Purple?” That was an excellent movie, it gave a very fair and realistic depiction of the lives of black people at that time and era.

    seriously?

    11/23/09, 11:01:am

    some people seriously just like to hear the sound of their voice don’t they? Precious stole the chicken because she was PREGNANT, HAD NO MONEY, AND NEEDED TO MAKE IT TO SCHOOL ON TIME. I strongly encourage people to read at some point in their lives….

    as for the rape? surprise surprise black america this is going on DAILY. I’m glad we’re no longer able to run from it..

    the community needs a dose of “get right”

    Miss Re Re

    11/23/09, 11:01:am

    Go Read The DAMN BOOK before you JUDGE THIS MOVIE!

    The book came out years ago. I read it when I was in my teens. That was over 10 years ago. It was never meant to be like a Color Purple or any other movie. It was a young girl that suffered abuse, had 2 children by her father and could hardly read or write. She went to school and her life began to come together. Although things were getting better for her, she found out she had HIV. That didn’t stop her though.

    This does not have anything to do with the BLack family. Black people have such huge chips on our shoulders. This movie was just telling CLarece Precious Jones’ story. It wasn’t displaying the behaviors of a “Black Family”

    fabulous

    11/23/09, 11:04:am

    The abise was horrifying also the LOW self esteem. Lots of black women have that same low self esteem and are unhappy with who they are hence the wigs, weaves and skin lighteners.

    @

    11/23/09, 11:04:am

    damn can the movie be just about a MOVIE why everything have to be a big deal!!!!!

    Str8 Truth

    11/23/09, 11:05:am

    The bottom feeders of black society get all the press. This perpetuates the negative stereotypes. This movie is doing nothing more than capitalizing on the sector of our community which is in turmoil. How many movies have you seen about stable young blacks? That doesn’t sell. Sadly, the black community won’t ride against the very members who fuel the negative view of us. Most are either a part of the problem or an accessory to the crime.

    Dr. Hayden Drake

    11/23/09, 11:07:am

    Tyler Perry has done far more to damage the image of black family/people than this movie could possibly do.

    I will never understand why we as black people choose to celebrate the very worst our culture has to offer and scream to the world “this is real” “this is who we are”

    seriously?

    11/23/09, 11:07:am

    @Romello

    I went to school with a Filipino girl named Precious (no nickname no middle name) and her cousin’s name was “Lovely”

    Leon

    11/23/09, 11:07:am

    I didn’t get a bad depiction from the movie Precious. When I think of bad depiction of black people I think of movie like hustle and flow or monsters ball the reason I said monsters ball the lady had a BLACK husband of death row a BLACK obese child and she and to go to a WHITE man to “make her feel good” that’s depiction to me.And she got a Academy Award for that movie. Because that how they see us. She got one for introducing dorothy dandridge I would have been happy if the would gave her on for losing isaiah.

    Leon

    11/23/09, 11:09:am

    I didn’t get a bad depiction from the movie Precious. When I think of bad depiction of black people I think of movie like hustle and flow or monsters ball the reason I said monsters ball the lady had a BLACK husband of death row a BLACK obese child and she and to go to a WHITE man to “make her feel good” that’s depiction to me.And she should have got a Academy Award for that movie. Because that how they see us. She got one for introducing dorothy dandridge I would have been happy if the would gave her on for losing isaiah.

    Seattle WA

    11/23/09, 11:10:am

    This does not only happen in the “black community” Im sure that all races, backgrounds and cultures can identify themselevs or someone they know in similar situations. Why do we always play the race card? When are we going to stop pointing fingers to race? Why cant we all just identify as ONE? We are all ONE! This is crazy! This move has opened a door and has given a voice for all comunitys that suffer from poverty, incest, limited education, limited resources, abuse, malnourishment… and the list goes on. O hope that people can look past color on this and feel empathy for those who fall into any of these categories.

    IBM

    11/23/09, 11:11:am

    I think it happends in all households of all races to be honest not just blacks

    shonda

    11/23/09, 11:12:am

    We Black people are always talking about “KEEP IT REAL”…but, when someone (esp Whites) points out negative things about us as a race, stereotypes which WE PERPETUATE…we get angry or as someone up top said we sweep it under the rug…

    Its a movie about abuse and redemption…something ALL races can relate to!

    seriously?

    11/23/09, 11:12:am

    and in regard to the theory of “light skinned people being the saviors” in this movie, what about her cl*****mates? It was Joanne who took Precious to the incest survivor’s meetings, it was Jermaine who helped her read the files she stole from her social workers..

    everybody stop reaching on the count of 3!

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 11:12:am

    Of all the movies that could of been made to depict blacks the one depicting

    *ignorance
    *incest
    *rape
    *gluttony
    *abuse
    *teen age pregnancy
    *poor education
    *poverty

    is produced and celebrated for a possible Oscar. These are the movies “we” support. This and “gangsta” movies about us.

    At a time when we have had a black:
    *President
    *General
    *Secretary of State
    *Surgeon General
    *Attorney General
    *…first lady…
    *ETC.

    Goes to show what Hollyweird thinks that we will support. SMH.

    STEFANY

    11/23/09, 11:13:am

    STFU

    WTF do black people want?? When Bill Cosby tried to present positive images of black middle cl***** family life with the Cosby show, black folks called it unreal. Now, some are complaining about Precious. You can go into any black neighborhood and realize that this movie is not a stereo type. Mental illness is rampant and unaddressed in our community and these types of abusive situations have been ignored for far too long. Plus, just like many have already pointed out..the subject matter in this movie is not exclusive to blacks.
    ****************************************
    THANK YOU!

    There’s so much untreated mental illness in the black community, when I look at young black men under the age of 20-25 being repeatedly lock up for doing stupid stuff and people wonder “what’s wrong with him” or when you see these young girls in abusive relationships having multiple children, it alls goes back to mental issues not being addressed..We complain about the problem but when our problems are addressed we get mad and accuse people of ‘putting us down” or “airing out our dirty laundry.”

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 11:13:am

    Str8 Truth

    The bottom feeders of black society get all the press. This perpetuates the negative stereotypes. This movie is doing nothing more than capitalizing on the sector of our community which is in turmoil. How many movies have you seen about stable young blacks? That doesn’t sell. Sadly, the black community won’t ride against the very members who fuel the negative view of us. Most are either a part of the problem or an accessory to the crime.
    _______________________________________________

    PREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACH!!!

    Marcus Garvey

    11/23/09, 11:15:am

    I agree. Every movie about black people is not going to depict how everyone grew up. About the fried chicken, that is common. White, red, yellow, black and all colors of people eat when their depressed. Would you have believed the movie if she picked up a whole plate of salad and ate it? I don’t think so. She did not get that big on salad and fruit. So let’s be real. Go enjoy the movie if you don’t agree with everything then thats fine, your human otherwise everyone needs to chill out and enjoy the fact that you can go out to a movie with your family and enjoy yourselves!! Stop trying to make everything a big issue. Enjoy everyone…

    LatoyaRacquel

    11/23/09, 11:16:am

    @ Seriously?
    In regards to the fried chicken comment, I was not referring to character Precious in the context of being hungry,pregnant, etc. I was talking about the actress herself and the millions of overweight black people who refuse to stop eating slave food regardless of the effects on their health.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 11:18:am

    @ LatoyaRacquel

    Slave Food?!

    Rita

    11/23/09, 11:19:am

    Black people are the most sensitive people…and how did I know the subject of the “light skinned” blacks saved her…who cares if they were light or dark they still saved her…if I am not mistaken wasn’t Sherri Shephard someone who helped her out just a little is she not dark skinned as well…This whole discussion is stupid…it’s a damn movie, black folks always find something to complain about and wanna be the victim of something…

    And yes I am black!

    free

    11/23/09, 11:19:am

    @man, i just don’t care: GOOD POINTS!

    80's Girl

    11/23/09, 11:19:am

    LISTEN, MY GENTLE BOSSIP READERS!! IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T NOTICED THIS WORLD IS A CRAZY PLACE, AND PEOPLE; BLACK, WHITE, GREEN AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN, HAVE COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS. DON’T SLEEP…JUST CHECK-OUT BOSSIP’S “JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL OR END OF TIMES” PIECES FOR PROOF.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 11:20:am

    “I didn’t get a bad depiction from the movie Precious. When I think of bad depiction of black people I think of movie like hustle and flow or monsters ball the reason I said monsters ball the lady had a BLACK husband of death row a BLACK obese child and she and to go to a WHITE man to “make her feel good” that’s depiction to me.And she got a Academy Award for that movie. Because that how they see us. She got one for introducing dorothy dandridge I would have been happy if the would gave her on for losing isaiah.”

    BIBLE: i dont get how the black man sees something as real as this portraying him in an egative light but overlooks the Boyz in the Hood, Menace to Society, Hustle and Flow, etc – along with Rap Music – that portrays him in the worse light possible: an uneducated drug dealing street thug.

    Ed DuRante

    11/23/09, 11:21:am

    If you have to ask that question, you already know the answer.

    Re

    11/23/09, 11:21:am

    Am I being blocked?

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 11:21:am

    @man, i just don’t care: GOOD POINTS!
    ___________________________________
    Agreed!

    ELIZABETH

    11/23/09, 11:22:am

    BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO SENSITIVE ONE BLACK FAMILY DOESNT DESCRIBE ALL THE BLACK FAMILIES IN THE WORLD.

    Cj

    11/23/09, 11:22:am

    It is the ignorant that think there is only one experience per ethnicity. While we do share some common threads as people, our experiences vary.

    You can tell a man by his walk. And if you are an upstanding individual, people won’t see the Precious in you….lol.

    LatoyaRacquel

    11/23/09, 11:24:am

    @Seriously, again!
    For someone who claims that people justs like to hear themselves talk, I see you have posted more than anyone else here. Just because this is the only book you have read in your life, doesn’t make you the resident subject matter expert.

    Real Tallk

    11/23/09, 11:24:am

    The movie is speaking of all families that are going through this, however I co-sign with JUST DON’T CARE, why only we receive the Oscar when we act out the lowest characters, sad, wake up people they are playing us. We are powerful and strong people we need to fight, the struggle is not over it is just covered up!

    This some Shhh....

    11/23/09, 11:24:am

    Not my kind of movie, but it addressed somebody.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 11:25:am

    I don’t think that it’s such a big deal. The message in this movie is bigger than that of color, IMO. We all know very well, that this story can be applied to ALL races, not just black. I believe that a movie can affect you as much as you let it. It’s not that deep. I just hope that someone that is going through a similar situation, can see this movie & realize that it’s not ok to live like this. & to go get help. Which is what I believe is the point of this movie is.

    DR.FUNK

    11/23/09, 11:28:am

    JUST IN CASE MY COMMENT DOES’NT POST:

    BOSSIP…You have been a part of the HYPE MACHINE for this movie.Feeling DUMB now?

    pynk

    11/23/09, 11:29:am

    DR.FUNK

    JUST IN CASE MY COMMENT DOES’NT POST:

    BOSSIP…You have been a part of the HYPE MACHINE for this movie.Feeling DUMB now?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    good point! lol

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:31:am

    Goodmorning Everyone hope all had a good weekend :)

    @PNK- *waves* Hey cyber twin lol, but on a serious note 100% agree with your comment.

    Caramel Goddess

    11/23/09, 11:31:am

    I’ve opted out of the film but read the novel that it’s based on. THIS FILM IS ABOUT ABUSE AT ITS WORST- NOT ABOUT BEING BLACK.

    This movie just happens to be written by (and from the perspective of) a black author. For some reason that fact is continually overlooked.

    I think some of the people making the accusation that this film is “racist” do not know the author is black and haven’t read the original novel. People, please try to make EDUCATED judgments about such serious topics!!

    heygurrrl!

    11/23/09, 11:32:am

    first, we all know that physical an sexual abuse in EVERY community and/or culture. this happened to be a movie based on a black fam!! So get over it. ya’ll wasnt poppin yall necks ova Charlize Theron in Monster were yall?!! She came from a hella dysfunctional family! Take the movie for what it is…a story about a EXTREMELY dydfunctional family.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:32:am

    @DR. FUNK-True indeed.

    heygurrrl!

    11/23/09, 11:33:am

    first, we all know that physical an sexual abuse in EVERY community and/or culture. this happened to be a movie based on a black fam!! So get over it. ya’ll wasnt poppin yall necks ova Charlize Theron in Monster were yall?!! She came from a hella dysfunctional family! Take the movie for what it is…a story about a EXTREMELY dydfunctional family. Black people pull the race card(ON THEIR OWN PEOPLE) way too much!!

    and yes I am black

    THE END

    Lady Architect (Being a Good Girl)

    11/23/09, 11:33:am

    I think only close minded ignorant people will think this represents the black family…not the case at all…

    I hope everyone who supported this movie goes out and supports “Armored” with Columbus Short. He fought to get the leading role in that movie eventhough they wanted a white man to lead cause they think black leading characters can’t sell movies. Go out and support!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:35:am

    Thank you, Bossip, for posting the NY Times article.

    @Angee

    “”This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse.”

    I saw “Precious” this weekend, and I agree wholeheartedly — this movie, which I found powerfully moving, is about abuse, which is a topic that is not discussed enough in our community, IMHO. I did not see Mo’Nique’s portrayal of an extremely abusive, negligent, selfish mother as a reflection on me as a black woman. In fact, a friend of mine did some background research and discovered that Mo’Nique herself was a victim of sexual abuse — The film seemed to have served as a catharsis for her. That’s how gut-wrenching her acting came across, and there were plenty of other notable performances (Mariah, for example, far exceeded my expectations).

    We, as a community, need to get out of reactionary mode, and into a proactive stance on the issues that have touched many of our lives, including abuse. It irritates me that some have likened this film to “The Color Purple,” which I viewed as an individual’s fictional tale, not as an indictment against black people or black men, as some seemed to think. I have the same feeling towards “Precious” — this is the depiction of one girl’s pain, not an illustration of all black mothers, or black people in general.

    I hope hypersensitivity doesn’t preclude some from absorbing the greater meaning of the film and of the real struggles faced by real children (the film made me think of Shaniya Davis) every day. Many of their stories go unheard, and their pain does not have a voice.

    heygurrrl!

    11/23/09, 11:35:am

    and apparently I come from an illiterate family, SORRY ABOUT THE TYPOS! LOL

    emmie

    11/23/09, 11:35:am

    This movie is based off of a book written by a black woman (Sapphire)!! Don’t be mad at the producers, actors, directors, Tyler Perry or Oprah Winfrey or even the white couple who financed it. It is a movie about abuse in a black household in the 80’s set in NY. BUT this isn’t the first time a movie about abuse and incest has been made and it won’t be the last (black, white or any other race).

    4Real-tho

    11/23/09, 11:36:am

    I don’t think that “Precious” is sending the wrong message about Black Families. Precious has her own experience & story to tell and we should respect that! This Movie just came out, so what were other People thinking about Black people before then? (Hence, A movie is not going to change their minds of perception about most black people) Precious is not going to change their minds. Hell, look at the little black girl who was recently sold into slavery by her own Mother to a known Pedophile who murdered her. And more recently, we see a Black Father murdering his 15 year old Son for molesting his 3-1/2 year old half-sister. Everyone has their own story to tell and this one is Precious and those people alone. This behavior knows no racial or economic boundary. The minute the truth come out about something linked to a Black family other with low self-esteem and shame begin to think that other people are looking at them differently, too. I can go to a club and just because other females are disrespecting themselves and have no cl***** does not mean that I should get mad at them because they are not representing who I am or what I stand for. They are not me. I think that if more people are confident in who they are…they wouldn’t be so quick to internalize other people’s negative behavior as if it is also a negative reflection or representation on themselves. I distinguish myself from other people because I know who I am. Precious is Precious, etc., etc. This is her story to tell. Something is wrong with people who think that Precious story brings shame to their own family, unless your family has those skeletons in the closet as well.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:37:am

    @LADY A- Exactly. Abuse happens in ALL races it is not just soley isolated to the black race.

    @SYDNEY- Hello agree with your comment.

    heygurrrl!

    11/23/09, 11:38:am

    I hope everyone who supported this movie goes out and supports “Armored” with Columbus Short. He fought to get the leading role in that movie eventhough they wanted a white man to lead cause they think black leading characters can’t sell movies. Go out and support!

    *****************************************
    @ LADY

    Yes, Armored looks good as hell. I will support no doubt!! Yes the WHITE studio execs think the only thing we can do is give one liners. Like, “damn, that f*cked up!” LOL

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 11:38:am

    @Sydney

    Happy Monday to you! I haven’t seen this movie yet but I agree with your *****essment. BTW, I went to see ‘New Moon’ this weekend and I was sadly disappointed….

    DetroitDiva

    11/23/09, 11:39:am

    I’m sooo not interested in seeing this movie.

    heygurrrl!

    11/23/09, 11:40:am

    @caramel

    Im sorry but im gonna have to cut ya!! LOL NEW MOON was wonderful!!!! Loved it!!! So much better than boring Twilight. Have you read the books?

    Sheer_Honey

    11/23/09, 11:40:am

    what the hell?? everyone knows that incest and child molestation occurs in all communities and it is blind to race. this is a global issue, but it just so happens that sapphire wrote it from the perspective of a young overwight black female. i think this is a realist film – neither good or bad. just life.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 11:40:am

    a.s.s.essment…. dang Bossip, get it together!

    Tabula Rasa

    11/23/09, 11:41:am

    People are just beiing way too sensitive ….. How can we expect to evolve as a race if we continue to do crap like this!!! A white woman from a trailor park could have easily written this novel and I guarantee that white folks wouldnt be in an uproar about it!!! because it is that womans story so everyone should just relax and let art be art!!!! Let’s focus our energy on something else that will actaully make a difference !!!!

    rizzo31

    11/23/09, 11:42:am

    this is a reality across the board. the story just so happens to be about a black girl. i think we should get past the fact of race and make steps to outreach to girls that are going through this or have gone through this. its is a petty argument and completely misses the point. its not the first or the last time black people (not to mention other races) are gonna do things that make them look bad. find a SOLUTION to the issue (which is a very real issue because i was abused sexually and mentally as a child) and my mom did the same thing, but God blessed me and moved me away from the mess of the situation….so this story was very real to me, and i think i was very much needed….and should be a wake up call to all races to not allow this to happen to their children. Does the name ‘Shaniya Davis’ ring a bell? who gives a damn about race….

    Oh Dear

    11/23/09, 11:42:am

    I applaud Precious and EVERYONE (including the White couple who financed it). It is a movie with BLACK ACTORS, BLACK PRODUCERS, BLACK DIRECTORS, AND A BLACK WOMAN WROTE IT. So, therefore I supported it. I would rather watch a poignant movie about issues that are real in the Black and all communities than the foolishness put out there by the Wayans or Tyler Perry (Precious is the best thing he has had his hands in).

    I am also very glad that it wasn’t a “Story of an exceptional Black athlete saved by a white family” that Hollywood insist on shoving down our throats every few years. Precious is helped by Black and minority women!

    The ending was uplifting because we saw Precious refuse to repeat the cycle.

    Support this film so that we can get more black films shown on more than 100 screens (if you hadn’t heard New Moon was released on 2,000 + screens). Then maybe we will get some more movies showing us in “positive” light. C’mon, everything isn’t peaches and cream, so why do all black movies have to be about us being positive? This movie is positive. See it!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:42:am

    @This Some Shhh

    “Not my kind of movie, but it addressed somebody.”

    Yes, it certainly did. I thought about one of my family members who lived with the pain of the abuse she experienced as a child all of her life.

    Not every film will reflect our actual experiences, but we can still glean knowledge and emotion from what we know is a reality for a number of people. Yes, there are children whose lives are utter he*l, and they feel they have no outlet. It’s not an issue that can be swept under the rug because some feel it may be “embarr*****ing.”

    Hi Ms. EJ, Caramel

    @Caramel

    I’m so sorry, girl! What didn’t you like about it?

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:42:am

    The only issue that I have is that it seems that black male and female actors seem to only be Oscar-worthy when the story line is not showing the upside to black people or black families. I understand that story of abuse needs to be told and that the stars gave strong performances, therefore people give credit for the most part where credit is due.

    seriously?

    11/23/09, 11:43:am

    Hit dog hollered. Twice. It is what it is

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:44:am

    @CARAMEL CAT- Hello Ms. Lady

    Sticky-n-Sweet

    11/23/09, 11:45:am

    For some reason, I don’t want to see Precious. Just not in the mood. But everyone has their good points on here. As you can see with the Phillips family and other stories, incest, rape, etc. are not exclusive to one race, they are human problems.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:45:am

    I couldn’t help thinking about Shaniya while watching “Precious.” I can’t stop thinking that she could have been saved, that there were signs that she was in an unsafe environment when she went to live with her mother.

    Perhaps someone who watches Lee Daniels’ film will have the courage to speak up about the abuse he/she has experienced or has witnessed someone else endure. Perhaps a life can be saved.

    Nik

    11/23/09, 11:46:am

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!

    I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ANGEE

    2dimplzs

    11/23/09, 11:46:am

    This movie isn’t for the faint of heart. I haven’t seen it yet but would like to but am afraid to because I don’t want to walk away depressed. I’ve lived in a family where sexual abuse happened at the hands of my father to my sister and thank god no children resulted from it. That’s a horror that you never forget. We all got through it but the emotional scars for me and my siblings and the emotional and physical scars for my sister that it happened to lasts forever. Our father was also verbally abusive. Just an all around sick b a s t a r d.

    I agree that on one hand it needs to be talked about but you can’t fault those who have a problem handeling the “in your face” way it’s being brought to the public. If you haven’t experienced abuse it’s hard for you to comprehend let alone digest. It took me a long time to be able to sit through and watch The Color Purple but it was a very powerful and on point film. I guess I’ll eventually give Precious a try too.

    kandykane

    11/23/09, 11:49:am

    I don’t understand why every black movie is supposed to represent all black ppl. smh…I agree abuse happens in all races and it showed the horror that a lot of children live everyday ppl just don’t realize.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:49:am

    Another issue addressed in “Precious” that is not discussed enough among us is colorism. There is a scene in which Precious peers into a mirror that is absolutely heartbreaking (it reminded me of “The Bluest Eye”).

    No, this is not a “feel-good” film, but it is an important film.

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 11:52:am

    Black movies only receive enormous amounts of recognition when it is “negative.”

    It is of no surprise that Oprah and Tyler Perry (two admitted abuse victims) would support yet another movie that portrays black men in an awful light.

    SMH.

    cudn

    11/23/09, 11:52:am

    I ill go see it now knowing that Tyler Perry did not have nothing to do with it. I was avaiding this movie like the plaque. I thought that it was a powerful piece and I was scared when I heard Tyler Perry’s name attached to it.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 11:53:am

    Hi Ms.Ej!

    @Sydney, I just didn’t connect with all that sappy stuff. I know the first one was along those lines but they were hyping this one up to be much more action packed and I was not moved at all…but, for those that liked it, I take my hate off.. :)

    @heygurrrl!

    I just couldn’t get with that lovey dovey stuff. I wanted my gore and violence! :)

    Moreaces

    11/23/09, 11:53:am

    Ms.EJ

    The only issue that I have is that it seems that black male and female actors seem to only be Oscar-worthy when the story line is not showing the upside to black people or black families. I understand that story of abuse needs to be told and that the stars gave strong performances, therefore people give credit for the most part where credit is due.
    ====================
    Well look at the movie “Slum Dog Millionar” and the abuse that went on in that movie, most movies that win awards are tragic stories. There are hundreds of moives that show abuse that are not “black” movies”

    KeepNit2Real

    11/23/09, 11:53:am

    2dimplzs

    This movie isn’t for the faint of heart. I haven’t seen it yet but would like to but am afraid to because I don’t want to walk away depressed. I’ve lived in a family where sexual abuse happened at the hands of my father to my sister and thank god no children resulted from it. That’s a horror that you never forget. We all got through it but the emotional scars for me and my siblings and the emotional and physical scars for my sister that it happened to lasts forever. Our father was also verbally abusive. Just an all around sick b a s t a r d.

    I agree that on one hand it needs to be talked about but you can’t fault those who have a problem handeling the “in your face” way it’s being brought to the public. If you haven’t experienced abuse it’s hard for you to comprehend let alone digest.
    _________________________________________________

    I echoed this exact point earlier. Truly agree…truly!

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 11:54:am

    *hat…

    Angee

    11/23/09, 11:55:am

    @Sydney

    I wanted to say Hello, I am having problems with Bossip right now. It was fine earlier, but now it’s acting crazy. I will have to log out of Bossip.

    Loved your comments!!

    Hello to everyone else!!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:56:am

    @Man

    “It is of no surprise that Oprah and Tyler Perry (two admitted abuse victims) would support yet another movie that portrays black men in an awful light.”

    Have you seen the movie? There are a few flashback scenes with the father, but, by far, Mo’Nique is at the center of most of the film’s depictions of abuse. She is shown being verbally, physically, and sexually abusive. Did I take her portrayal as a slight against me as a black woman? Of course not.

    Again, these stories occur in ALL communities, and it’s not an issue that can be ignored for the sake of some misplaced sensitivity.

    sweetdreams

    11/23/09, 11:56:am

    I don’t agree, the movie focused on a character made up by the author – it is fiction. Why are folks always trying to generalize black people. There are good black people and negative people, it applies to all ethnic groups and nationalities. The story was intense and the movie brought it to life. It is important to have this film marketed so people that see themselves in this film can get help. There are so many themes one can write about from this story/movie – it is important to bring these types of issues to the surface and not hide them under the rug, regardless of your ethnicity.

    Jerzee Gurl

    11/23/09, 11:57:am

    Oh my goodness. Can we please stop being so d a m n sensitive? As a black female my opinion of this is that black people as a whole do not want to put a spotlight on abuse such as this. We would all like to think that only white people sexually abuse their kids. Only white people brutalize their kids. The only reason things like this are not so prevalent in our community is because we don’t talk about things like this and truth to be told stories like this one need to be told.

    Nia

    11/23/09, 11:57:am

    It is interesting that so many of u have a problem with this movie, which is intended to give a voice to so many of us in the black community who have expirienced all kinds of abuse( verbal, physical,emmotional and sexual) at the hands of family members and friends and it has gone unnoticed. I much prefer Monique in this movie than her loud ***** mouth mon – fri at 11pm really embellishing all the negative sterotypes about balck folk especialy women. But y’all seem to think that is a more positive repersentation of black women and people in general. well not where i come from. BET is the biggest perpetrator of negatives sterotypes of blacks, so stop picking on Tyler Perry. At least he always ends with a positive message or at least some insight.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:57:am

    @Caramel

    LOL, I love the lovey-dovey stuff, and I thought that was the best part of the film (other than the magnificent wolves). It’s why I liked “Twilight,” too. I’m a romantic at heart. :)

    Hello, Angee!

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 11:58:am

    @MOREACES- I never said it wasn’t I was just speaking in general in regards to black films, but like I stated most give credit where credit is due so if the movie had great performances from actors then so be it. I early on mentioned that such things are not just limited to only the black race.

    This some Shhh....

    11/23/09, 11:59:am

    Morning Sydney..

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 11:59:am

    Rather than discussing how “bad” the film allegedly portrays black people, why not discuss the real suffering endured by hundreds of children every day? How they can be helped? How can abuse be detected and stopped?

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:00:pm

    Hey Angee

    Aunt Viv

    11/23/09, 12:01:pm

    @ Sydney,
    “Have you seen the movie? There are a few flashback scenes with the father, but, by far, Mo’Nique is at the center of most of the film’s depictions of abuse. She is shown being verbally, physically, and sexually abusive. Did I take her portrayal as a slight against me as a black woman? Of course not.

    Again, these stories occur in ALL communities, and it’s not an issue that can be ignored for the sake of some misplaced sensitivity.”
    __________________________________________________
    VERY good point.

    rayswife

    11/23/09, 12:01:pm

    So the educated black people dont think we should support this movie. How many of them have stock with Viacom? the giant behind MTV and BET? I do not see any of the educated picketing the set that has young dark skin girls believeing that they need to be light and have long hair to be considered pretty. Oh that’s just entertainemnt. God forbid that a child, of any race, that is going through this same “life” gleans something from the movie when once they believed there was nothing then do we consider it a waste. Yes, the movie was harsh and in your face but abuse is harsh to those being abused. But we can go and follow the educated ones in believeing that our daughters should know how to “shake their money maker” but they should not be exposed to dysfuntionality expecially in their own race.

    Mika

    11/23/09, 12:02:pm

    This is not a black or white movie it is a movie of truth. The sad part is we all know a Precious or some part of her. I saw the movie and it has a very real story to tell….you will cry,laugh and most of all you will come away from it a better person with a better understanding about abuse. It is a must see. I read the book about 8yrs ago very pleased that the movie kept it real. To all the Precious’ out there “I LOVE YOU AND YOU ARE SPECIAL TO ME!”

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 12:02:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Have you seen the movie? There are a few flashback scenes with the father, but, by far, Mo’Nique is at the center of most of the film’s depictions of abuse. She is shown being verbally, physically, and sexually abusive. Did I take her portrayal as a slight against me as a black woman? Of course not.

    Again, these stories occur in ALL communities, and it’s not an issue that can be ignored for the sake of some misplaced sensitivity.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Sorry, but these two have a pattern of supporting movies that portray black men in a negative light. I’m sure with their power and influence there are numerous other projects that they could support which portray a more positive image. Those projects are rejected repeatedly.

    Should we just ignore that fact?

    Let me make this clear, I have NO problem with the movie in and of itself. Just that there should be SOME balance for our images. Particularly when “WE” are the ones in posisition to produce these movies. Unfortunately that doesn’t happen when Oprah and Tyler are involved.

    SMH.

    Tre'

    11/23/09, 12:04:pm

    Black People – it is time to stop the damn complaining. It is so easy for us to sit at or keyboards and critise singers, actors and entertainers all day for doing what they do. yet I do not see any of u going out there and trying to address any of the issues. We are so good at critiquing other people’s efforst to at least address issues yet we do nothing create appropriate responses to issues in our community. Come on Bossip less talking more action this would give u more credibilty to critisize.

    FYI

    11/23/09, 12:05:pm

    Did the book PUSH get this much uproar when it was released? After all, it is much more graphic than the interpretive movie Precious…this is very telling of some of the movie’s “critics.”

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:06:pm

    @SYDNEY- Its been stated by many specialist in the field of child abuse as well as on talk shows that many children who are abused go to the mother first or a family member and 90% are not believed or rejected (which breaks my heart the same happened to a dear friend of mine her mother said “Well if your breast weren’t so big he wouldn’t have done that” we were in the 4th grade and she had large breast). The first step is parents particulary mothers to not leave their children with their dates or boyfriend and to not leave their children with random people or people in general. For parents in general to have a strong relationship with their children for those who are scared to open up and if their child comes to them saying someone touched them inappropiately to not get angry at them, to listen immediately tell them it is not their fault.

    beatnik8tv

    11/23/09, 12:12:pm

    You people p*** me off. Black People this, Black people that. This statement was from ONE person. The majority of the Black people on here disagree with it. So how are BLACK PEOPLE sensitive. It’s only Mr White who is sensitive not BLACK PEOPLE. FFS!!!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:12:pm

    Hi This Some Shhh

    @Man

    “Sorry, but these two have a pattern of supporting movies that portray black men in a negative light.”

    First, this is not Oprah nor Tyler’s film — Lee Daniels is the force behind it. Oprah and Tyler came in at the tail end of the production. The NY Times magazine published an in-depth profile of him three or four weeks ago. As far as the films that Oprah supports, the last film project I saw of hers was the television mini-series of Zora Neale Hurston’s “Their Eyes Were Watching God,” and I didn’t see any “negative” portrayal of black men.

    “Let me make this clear, I have NO problem with the movie in and of itself. Just that there should be SOME balance for our images.”

    There are films that show a “happier” side of black life, such as “The Great Debaters” and “Miracle at St. Anna,” but do we support those films? It’s a give-and-take situation. If we want a greater variety of cinema, we have to put our money behind it.

    Choco

    11/23/09, 12:13:pm

    Great debate and valid points I stand in the middle I don’t want to see the movie becuz I don’t want to remember my own abuse if it helped someone then fine…I do agree with Man and KeepitReal as far as we have a lot other positive aspects of our community that should be demonstrated and I also agree that the movie is for entertainment purposes-on the flip side I think Oprah needs therapy for her own issues with being abused because she is really hell bent on backing films that deal with abuse just like that other movie she made forget the name of it I think it was called “Blessed”. Oprah get some help!

    as seen on t.v.

    11/23/09, 12:17:pm

    Most movies that are Oscar contenders aren’t “feel good” films…Look @ Crash and Monster, Monsters Ball the movie that Hillary S***** did about the lesbian who was murdered…Even the wrestler wasn’t a feel good movie…We as a people are damnmed if we do and damned if we don’t…We get mad @ Tyler Perry for his movies and we say we need more serious movies about us…Now a movie is being made that shows real issues in society not just black society and we are still not satisfied…I will be supporting Precious and Armored…I think we need to be seen in all aspects and Hollywood is never going to green light the good portrayals of black people if we don’t go out and support good black films…

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:17:pm

    @SYDNEY- Also, parents need to pay attention to signs and not blow it off as a phase or teenage thing. Most parents who are close and intune to their children know their personalities and habits. If their child starts to be moody, not liked affection, having nightmares, skipping school, short tempered, crying out the blue, can’t sleep, can’t eat, stops interacting with others, lashes out at sibiling ect…PAY ATTENTION!!!! Especially for the young ones all children have patterns. Many parents based on shows I’ve seen just took it as a phase when its not. Talk to your children! don’t talk at them but to them and with them and listen with your heart mind not just with you ears. *****ure tham that its okay for them to confided in you.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:18:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “Its been stated by many specialist in the field of child abuse as well as on talk shows that many children who are abused go to the mother first or a family member and 90% are not believed or rejected (which breaks my heart the same happened to a dear friend of mine her mother said “Well if your breast weren’t so big he wouldn’t have done that” we were in the 4th grade and she had large breast).”

    There is a scene in the film involving Mo’Nique that speaks directly to some of these issues, but I won’t delve into it because it’s a climactic moment in the movie, and the first to make me break down in tears. You see how much power a mother has in her child’s life.

    I had an extensive discussion with a friend after we saw the movie, and we talked about the reactions of many women during R. Kelly’s trial. I read/heard a number of comments from sisters about how “fast” the young girls were who were allegedly abused by Kelly. My friend said that Oprah herself mentioned in the past that she was labeled “fast” when she came forward about her own childhood rape.

    rose by any other name #9304026339482056536 ™

    11/23/09, 12:19:pm

    Hi @choco and dahonest truth!!

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:20:pm

    @SYDNEY-Hey girl when you get the chance read the 2 comments to your question on how we can better protect our children.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:21:pm

    Thanks for the “Armored” mention, btw. I’ll check that out. Morgan Freeman is also playing Nelson Mandela in an upcoming film, “Invictus,” which looks very interesting as well.

    Niasia

    11/23/09, 12:23:pm

    so only black people come from abusive families?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:24:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “Most parents who are close and intune to their children know their personalities and habits. If their child starts to be moody, not liked affection, having nightmares, skipping school, short tempered, crying out the blue, can’t sleep, can’t eat, stops interacting with others, lashes out at sibiling ect…PAY ATTENTION!!!!”

    Thanks for your response, girl. I will add that promiscuity is also a sign of abuse. Some girls have distorted views of sexuality because they’ve been abused.

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 12:24:pm

    Ole shyyty Bossip!

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:24:pm

    @CHOCO- HEY!!! how are you?

    @ROSE BY ANOTHER ROSE- *waves*

    @SYDNEY- Exactly, it is heartbreaking. I had a guy friend who did the same thing told his mother and she yelled at him and didn’t listen or believe him and he is messed up mental wise due to that. His father started to rape him until he ranaway. Later his mom and dad were arrested, but his sibilings and him were sent into foster care.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 12:25:pm

    “Invictus,”
    ____________________
    The poem means a lot to me!

    Choco

    11/23/09, 12:25:pm

    Hey Rose…
    Can’t friggin wait until I get off on Wednesday…
    Hey MsEJ
    Also question is that ad the real ad for the movie?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:26:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “I had a guy friend who did the same thing told his mother and she yelled at him and didn’t listen or believe him and he is messed up mental wise due to that. His father started to rape him until he ranaway.”

    How horrific. The abuse of boys is another buried issue, I believe. The numbers are much higher than you may think. There is also an additional layer of shame when a boy is abused by another male, I think.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:28:pm

    @BG

    “I am the master of my fate:
    I am the captain of my soul.”

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:28:pm

    @SYDNEY-You are so right regarding Oprah and I remember so many females calling the young girl fast w/the R Kelly thing it was shameful, because just like you state as I am too very aware of some turn to sex as a result to abuse b/c they feel that is the only thing they are good for most times don’t even get pleasure for it but a need to feel wanted.

    BrwnBeauty

    11/23/09, 12:28:pm

    I ususally don’t comment often but as a Social Worker I see this issue everyday. In the black community and white community. Instead, of us sweeping it under the rug like many whites do…we need to talk about it and discuss it. I work with black, whites, mixed races you name it I work with them. The reason why many of us don’t hear about it as much in the White community is because some of the people it happens to have abortions or they have the baby and live happily ever after with their father. It just like abortions in the black and Latino community it seems like we have more than whites but I believe that to be false it’s just that in the white community many ppl send their children away to get the abortions or they get what’s called a DNC that scraps the fetus out. Which is the cleaned up version of getting a damn abortion. So let’s take the BLINDERS off and look at it for what it really is and not the color of the ppl acting it out.

    victory won

    11/23/09, 12:29:pm

    i agree w/angee WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

    its NOT about black people its something that can happen ANYWHERE to ANYONE of ANY RACE from ANY environment if this is the kind of thing that happens in their home. i’m all for uplifting our race but some things CAN’T be ignored nor can they be SWEPT under a rug,QUIT TRYING. we’re not perfect, Lord knows we’ve had our share of “coonery” as a people depsite what was done to us 300 years ago, we’re still shucking & jiving feeding into it. But in order to FIX the problem we have to ADDRESS it so there WON’T be any more precious’ or shaniya davis’ in the world. the sooner we do that, the more better off we’ll be..

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 12:29:pm

    “WE” need to support our positive movies more. No question about that.

    BUT, how often do our “positive” movies receive the same backing and support as our “negative” movies? Bossip has been mentioning “Precious” for MONTHS. Have you seen ONE thread about “Armoured?” ONE thread?

    It’s a cycle, one negative movie about us sells so two more are produced. Those two are supported so six more are produced. So on and so forth.

    I beleive the black in power should be held more accountable. Not only as for the roles they play, but also which movies the studios get behind as well.

    PHNMNLWMN

    11/23/09, 12:30:pm

    As a Child Protective Services Social Worker I will tell you this IS NOT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!!! Its about all people. A movie like this was needed a long time ago. It happens to white, black, latino, asian… every skin color. This is a sick world we live in. Watching the movie my mind went over so many cases that I have worked before and so many situations that paralell. We have to put an end to thinking this makes black people look bad. It happens. Period. despite the color of the skin. I am tired of people not talking about abuse. If someone had talked about abuse maybe Shaniya Davis would still be alive!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:30:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “I am too very aware of some turn to sex as a result to abuse b/c they feel that is the only thing they are good for most times don’t even get pleasure for it but a need to feel wanted.”

    Yes, some girls are taught to, mistakenly, use sex to gain love, or equate sex to love. This was illuminated in “Precious” as well. Some abusers tell their victims — who are their own children in a number of cases — that they are showing them “love.”

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 12:30:pm

    BrwnBeauty,
    Thanks for your heartfelt insight…I honestly wouldn’t be able to do what you do…Much applause to you for it.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 12:32:pm

    Man, I just don’t care™,
    I agree with you…I’m going to support Armoured!…My boo is in it too…wooooweee

    Aja

    11/23/09, 12:32:pm

    Its a catch 22 if we are in a comedy we coonin and being silly if we show real issues we are being misrepresented! We as black folks are confused which is it? we are never satisfied!

    Redd Tony

    11/23/09, 12:32:pm

    I havent seen it yet. However, I believe people of any race can find inspiration from films like this, especially if you can relate to this young lady’s situation. For those that cannot relate it paints an ugly reality that goes on in our communities. Movies like Precious should light a fire in people to treat each other with more comp*****ion and respect. Especially young Black girls and boys. People who are tired of seeing movies like this should get more involved in helping one another, because the stereotypes of our community will not change unless we change. The small sacrifice of lending an ear to someone in need goes a long way and has a profound affect people. All I know is no matter how many differences we have, we all have one thing in common. We want and need to be loved. Be a tutor, a big brother big sister to some child or young person, and be a positive inspiration to someone in need.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 12:34:pm

    I hate black people…What u say man…I’m Black…I hate you for hangong out with me than…LOL

    This some Shhh....

    11/23/09, 12:34:pm

    Actually this movie started getting traction from Sundance and other film festivals. They have been talking about this movie for a while.

    Romello

    11/23/09, 12:34:pm

    Didnt that gurl play biggie in that one movie

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:36:pm

    @Man

    “Bossip has been mentioning “Precious” for MONTHS. Have you seen ONE thread about “Armoured?” ONE thread?”

    I recall Bossip posting a thread about “Miracle at St. Anna” last year, and I don’t think it garnered 100 posts. Yes, we can address the lack of funding for more films, but we also hold personal responsibility as well. If we want more “Armoreds,” we have to support these projects. Black audiences put Tyler where he is today. If we want other directors in the same position, we must put our money behind them.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 12:41:pm

    @This Some Shhh

    “Actually this movie started getting traction from Sundance and other film festivals. They have been talking about this movie for a while.”

    Exactly. The accolades at Sundance propelled the film forward as an independent project of note. I think it won the Grand Jury Prize, which is huge. Lee Daniels also put his energy behind pushing the film (again, the NY Times magazine article, “The Audacity of Precious,” details the germination of the film).

    Gotta go, all. Good discussion.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:42:pm

    Why are my posts being blocked? There is nothing inappropriate in them.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:42:pm

    Okay, been trying to post and comments are not showing up!

    REDD TONY- very well said and hello to you hope you had a nice weekend.

    Marquis de Sade

    11/23/09, 12:43:pm

    I’m personally tired of these “WOE IS ME GHETTO LAMENT” movies. It’s 2009 on the cusp of 2010. You’d think black folks are still livin’ in the Jim Crow era…And I get the feelin’ this white couple who financed this movie did it out of a (sub-conscious) form of white guilt. You know how they love playin’ BIG BWANA, and the Black Elites’ plays right into it. The last positive black produced movie of any merit was THIS CHRISTMAS, and that was produced by Delroy Lindo and Mekhi Phifer.

    trs

    11/23/09, 12:45:pm

    father repeatedly rapes and impregnates his daughter in “The Color Purple” (as does the father in “Precious”), enraging some critics (mostly men) who *****erted that the book and the film treated black men harshly
    —————————————————

    Physical, emotional, and sexual abuse know no racial bounds; therefore, to a-s-s-e-r-t that Precious sends the wrong message about Blacks is absurd.

    It never fails to amaze me how some critics argue against Black films that attempt to address major concerns like abuse and/or drug use in our communities simply because they feel that Black men are “treated harshly” in these films. IMO these sort of trivial arguments are nothing short of minutiae when you consider the MAIN message that these films attempt to convey.

    The fact that Precious was abused by BOTH parents does not take away from the credibility of the film. This movie addressed many themes, including colorism, abuse, and ultimately, the triumph of the human spirit. This is certainly a story that needed to be told. Let’s not lose sight of what Daniels attempted to highlight by focusing on trivial details.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:45:pm

    I wouldn’t mind seeing more movies like “Akeelah and the B” I thought that was a good uplifting movie. I still want to see Precious as well.

    Ummmmmm....

    11/23/09, 12:47:pm

    I was JUST talking about this with my 72 year old aunt who HATED the movie. Her complaint — why couldn’t it have had a happier ending and why can’t we show better images of black people?? It really bothered her that Monique’s character never apologized to her daughter and we never saw her feel shame or guilt for doing what she did over a man. Why do these women choose men over their own flesh and blood??

    Sadly, she also knows someone who did the same thing — stood by her husband who impregnated, then had her 14 year old daughter abort the child by her stepdad…even put up the house to get him out of jail (which they lost) and they are STILL married today 20 years later.

    Mrs. Rance

    11/23/09, 12:48:pm

    Ok so every Black movie has to depict a Leave It To Beaver situation? Get the hell out of here. Tell that to Shaniya Davis. Ish happens in the black community like everywhere else. Sweeping it under the rug won’t make it go away.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:49:pm

    let me try it like this:

    does

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:50:pm

    anyone have

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:50:pm

    any issues with

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:51:pm

    the way the

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 12:51:pm

    @UMMMM- Oprah had a show where the woman did almost the same exact thing and even married the man as well knowing he had molested and repeatedly raped her son. The man served time and she was right there when he got out jail or prison. That is so so so sad.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:52:pm

    black woman

    2dimplzs

    11/23/09, 12:52:pm

    “BET is the biggest perpetrator of negatives sterotypes of blacks, so stop picking on Tyler Perry. At least he always ends with a positive message or at least some insight.”
    ___________________________________________________
    @ Nia:
    Thank you!!!!! OMG I’ve boycotted BET and refuse to watch any of their programming. I’m so sick of the BS they programming they put and have the nerve to call “entertainment!!” They are a joke and it’s all GAME! They are owned by MTV & VH1 and you see the crap they keep putting on their networks: Flavor of Love, I love New York, Chance of Love, For the Love of Ray-J….need I go on? They are not black entertainment – they are on the puppet strings of the white man who insist on the coonery and degrading television programs. It’s all game yall and yet many on here FAITHFULLY watch the garbage they put out!

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:53:pm

    was seen in this movie?

    Haitianmiss

    11/23/09, 12:53:pm

    Black people need to get over the fact that any movie that doesnt portray black people as super educated and sophisticated. the reality is is that not all black people are, just like any race. This movie is not about race it could have been a light skin girl playing precious and people would be up in arms. The movie has a mesage that we as a black community need to heed. Too many times are our children being abused and we say nothing because we dont want people to look down on us. So we tell our children to keep quiet and be ashamed that they brought this on themselves. Most white people arent afraid to call the police when their children have been violated. Thats the same mentality we need to have. We put these borders on ourselves. We need to stand up for our kids when we know that they are being abused we need to stand up and say this is not your fault. Another thing that horrifies me is that alot of times if the abuser is white we are quick to call the police but if they are black we keep it quiet because we dont want people to think that all black people abuse children. We as a society need to grow up and protect our children and stop trying to protect our image!!!!!!

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 12:53:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “I recall Bossip posting a thread about “Miracle at St. Anna” last year, and I don’t think it garnered 100 posts. Yes, we can address the lack of funding for more films, but we also hold personal responsibility as well. If we want more “Armoreds,” we have to support these projects. Black audiences put Tyler where he is today. If we want other directors in the same position, we must put our money behind them.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    We can’t put our money behind things we barely know of! Positive movies about us aren’t backed by the studios or any of the “power players” in Hollywood due their fear of being labeled a “trouble maker.”

    What happened to the Sidney Portiers of the world????? They’ve been replaced by the Tyler Perry’s of the world.
    **hangs head in shame**

    I SAID IT

    11/23/09, 12:55:pm

    I WAS NOT GOING TO WATCH ANOTHER OBESE BLACK WOMEN WITH GREASY FACE HAVING A CHILD @ 16 AND CRYING MOST OF THE TIME. EWWW

    Mimi

    11/23/09, 12:57:pm

    It’s a movie People, based on a novel!! Get over it! You can’t please everybody, and these Professors and uppidty Black folk need to quit wearing their feeling on their sleeve. If they want to make a big deal about something, go down to North Carolina and raise hell about that brotha who had Shaniya Davis, and beat the momma’s azz while you at it!

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 12:58:pm

    I can’t believe Bossip wouldn’t let me post that altogether….

    Monica

    11/23/09, 12:58:pm

    @ Ummmmmm…., this is based on real life experiences. It’s not an autobiography but there are 50 million Precious’s out there! Why should Monique’s character apologize. Life doesn’t always possess happy endings. Monique’s character apologizing would have taken away from the realness of the situation which is there are thousands of kids being abused by their parents and they never get an apology. Let’s keep it real. If everything was a happy ending then the world would be a better place.

    white boy

    11/23/09, 12:59:pm

    i liked the movie, it explains the day to day activity of a black community.LOL

    Get Real

    11/23/09, 12:59:pm

    I worked as a clerk at the courthouse my 1st year out of high school. I could not believe the criminal complaints coming across my desk regarding sexual abuse. I saw mothers coming to the courthouse bailing out men who had raped their daughters. Precious story is real rather folks want to believe it.

    The most disgusting criminal complaint I read was were a woman was upstairs in her bedroom with her 1yr old daughter & a male friend. She had some food in the oven that she had to go check on. She asked him to watch the baby & make sure she don’t fall off the bed. About 5 minutes later she came back upstairs to find this nicca pulling up his pants & seman across her daughters chest. He later told investagors that babies turn him on. Precious might not be your story but that sick ***** $hit do exist.

    Just A Thought

    11/23/09, 13:00:pm

    It’s a movie. The film has accomplished a great thing. It is being used as vessel to have healthy dialouge/discussion between people. The film is based on a novel. It is not a black thing it is a life thing. You may be Precious, you may know Precious, you may be Mary Jones or you may know Mary Jones. Be thankful, grateful and blessed if you have not endured the horrible trials of Precious. Become an agent of change if you are these people or know people in this situation. I pray I will never allow a movie, music, a book, etc to be the eyes, the ears, the window to my child outlook on her life, her image, her beauty, her growth, her success or her life. Again, it is only a movie. The issues are real, ugly and hard to swallow but such is LIFE!

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 13:01:pm

    “What happened to the Sidney Portiers of the world????? They’ve been replaced by the Tyler Perry’s of the world.
    **hangs head in shame**”

    whats the issue with Tyler? that he respects black women and their struggle and isn’t ready to sell them up the river or blame them for all the ills of the world like most black men are?

    Haters, man! LOL!

    J-No's busted cakes

    11/23/09, 13:03:pm

    This is the type of movie that a kkk grandwizard would jack off to.

    Simone

    11/23/09, 13:05:pm

    “Abuse happens in all races!!”

    Besides that…THIS IS BASED ON A TRUE STORY PEOPLE.

    BLACK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

    DaHonestTruth ~ I Will ALWAYS Keep It Real

    11/23/09, 13:07:pm

    ““BET is the biggest perpetrator of negatives sterotypes of blacks, so stop picking on Tyler Perry. At least he always ends with a positive message or at least some insight.””

    the issue is that Tyler Perry tends to hold the black man accountable and most black men don’t like that. they are perfectly fine with blaming the black woman and white man for his own self inflicted issues and lack of responsibility. i bet anything if this wasa moviewhere only the black womanw as seen in a bad light alot of these black men would have no issues with that whatsoever. just look at how none of them have spoken yet on the way the black woman was seen in this movie and in society as a whole based on her behaviors….

    :)

    11/23/09, 13:10:pm

    “A father repeatedly rapes and impregnates his daughter in “The Color Purple” (as does the father in “Precious”)”

    Ever hear of a spoiler alert????

    black but not african american

    11/23/09, 13:10:pm

    i have never seen a movie glorifying african american.NEVER. tyler perry is even making it worse for y’all, tell that imbecile to stop disgracing the african american community. any time his movie comes out i always say well okay another n*gga movie.LOL

    Mrs. Philly

    11/23/09, 13:12:pm

    The movie was wack the book was WAY better… movie was dry

    elle

    11/23/09, 13:14:pm

    black people are there own enemies, the fact that people would take this film and label it as black shows that we have a long way to go in ending racial boundaries, that is all I have to say on this matter wasting any more energy on this is just sinful

    Cali Luv

    11/23/09, 13:14:pm

    If 98% of the comments on this blog agree that this movie is about abuse and does represent black life, then it leads me to believe that the average moviegoer will to. The real problem is that the majority of movies, with a black cast, use the same plots over and over again!!!!! Screenwriters need to open their minds and stop stereotyping black people!

    Non Mulatto Proud Of It

    11/23/09, 13:15:pm

    “the issue is that Tyler Perry tends to hold the black man accountable “

    Coming from a closeted HOMO who spends more time putting on womens clthes sissfy the black male.

    Bleep Tyler Perry & racist jewish hollywood!

    “‘Burn Hollywood Burn”….Cchuck D 1990

    divina luz

    11/23/09, 13:15:pm

    I haven’t seen the film yet, but I read the book way back when it came out. The colour of the characters wasn’t relevant to me; this could be any girl’s story; the message is , you CAN survive the most horrible experiences, and move on up. I liken Precious’story to when you see a tiny plant forcing it’s way through the concrete, know what I mean? I was an ugly story, but Precious’journey was delicate, learning to read, loving her babies anyway, I saw alot of beauty and hope in it….

    Cali Luv

    11/23/09, 13:15:pm

    ….does NOT represent black life….

    Unimaginative_Trolls_get_your_own_screen_name

    11/23/09, 13:15:pm

    Well adjusted, loving TWO PARENT black homes are NEVER going to get much play in the mainstream, just as one would think that loving, commited, BLACK COUPLES don’t exist, if you read the damn LUNATICS who post on THIS web site —-

    The truth is, that a loving black family has to form a cocoon against the damn rest of the world, if it has ANY chance of STAYING a loving black family.

    divina luz

    11/23/09, 13:16:pm

    Sorry, typo again, I mean IT was an ugly story, not me, lol!

    Who Has Offended you and Stifled Your Progress?

    11/23/09, 13:17:pm

    Why is EVERYTHING so taboo when it comes to the Black community? Every time something sensitive is being discussed, does the conversation have to be swept under the carpet. Abuse happens EVERYDAY to EVERY RACE! I know because I work with children who come into foster after being abused. Precious sheds light on important issues. Instead of being offended , be proactive! Do something to change the status quo. Criticizing this movie or refusing to see it WON’T change the fact that this happens daily. So sick of the hush-mouth mentality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Non Mulatto Proud Of It

    11/23/09, 13:18:pm

    “the issue is that Tyler Perry tends to hold the black man accountable “

    Coming from a closeted HOMO who spends more time putting on womens clothes. He sissyfied the black male.

    Bleep Tyler Perry & racist jewish hollywood!

    “Burn Hollywood Burn”….Chuck D 1990

    PS..Color purple..SUCKED as well!! written by a black male hating black lesbian!!

    Unimaginative_Trolls_get_your_own_screen_name

    11/23/09, 13:20:pm

    A loving black family is constantly being told THEY A AN ANOMALY — by all kinds of *****-s, whose agendas are VERY transparent.

    That is why family COMES FIRST — and every damn other relationship in life is of SECONDARY or lower importance — if it isn’t put first, it will not survive.

    Melanie

    11/23/09, 13:22:pm

    This movie may have black actors portraying the characters, but this happens in all races, working in the health field with children you see all kids that are physically,mentally, and verbally abused by outsiders,family members so to say this movie bring down blacks does not make sense there are obese kids that are shunned and talked about in all races and that is why there is so much teen suicide and other problems with are youth of today becasue everybody is scared to face the facts and talk about it.

    Unimaginative_Trolls_get_your_own_screen_name

    11/23/09, 13:22:pm

    …ARE an anomaly … (but I think you got the msg)

    ms j

    11/23/09, 13:24:pm

    What I don’t understand is why can this just be looked at for the situation that it is dipicted verses the color of the people that are acting it out. This could happen no matter what race you are. Take the movie for what it is people!

    Hunter

    11/23/09, 13:27:pm

    Its a movie & in real life people have experienced similar situations.Black Hollywoood needs to make films & stop being selfish.

    leeya6

    11/23/09, 13:27:pm

    I really like this blog. Shouts to two comments:

    What disturbs me most about this film is that the evil abusers are dark skinned and the comp*****ionate and caring people are light skinned. The actors playing the caring ones are Paula Patton, Lenny Kravitz and Mariah Carey. All biracial. Anyone who believes this is coincidental has no idea how much thought goes into the casting process.

    AND

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!

    Diamond

    11/23/09, 13:27:pm

    I just want to say that i read the book and this type of situation could happen to anybody black, white, hispanic, all races(which all races are shown at the end of the book)i get so tired of people using racism at the wrong time…i love the book and cant wait to see the movie

    goody_MOBB

    11/23/09, 13:30:pm

    the movie “Persuit of Happiness” was a great depiction of a great father raising an impressionable son…but it got no accolades nor Tyler perry or Oprah support….

    this movie needed to be made. i aint seen it, but its makes sense and makes it easier to understand why certain people act/carry om the way they do with their lives. *****ody wants to see a movie of black people uplifting themselves hell we have the perfect “real-life movie” happening right now with our Current President and his intelligent wife. no need to speen 20mill and pay 12 dollas to see our successes. we need to bring the “swept under the rug issues to life..

    nothankyou

    11/23/09, 13:31:pm

    Some valid points have been made. I personally am just tired of seeing bad black people vs. angelic mulattoes. Paula Patton, Mariah Cariah, Lenny Kravitz-all of the saviors of this movie, all bi-racial. This stereotype is old and ridiculous.

    goody_MOBB

    11/23/09, 13:32:pm

    *on
    *spend

    samech

    11/23/09, 13:33:pm

    ….Yes….

    (WHY CAN’T PEOPLE JUST GIVE A ONE WORD ANSWER AND MOVE ON).

    mixed and proud

    11/23/09, 13:35:pm

    UMMMMMMMMMMMMM.. IM BLACK N I THINK BLACK PEOPLE CAN GIVE THEY SELF A BAD NAME ON THEIR OWN… COME ON. THE MOVE REFLECTS SOME TYPE OF HOMES. AND ITS TRUE. IT HAPPEN WE JUST DONT NO ABOUT IT.. IT GO ON EVERY WHERE. BLACK ..WHITE .. WHO CARES. WE ALL NO THAT THIS GO ON IN ALOT OF HOMES.. SO STOP HATEN. IF U THINK IT REPRESENT ALL BLACKS.THEN YOUR JUST AS DUMB AS THE PERSON WHO SAID IT FIRST! GET OVA THE RACE THING..

    goody_MOBB

    11/23/09, 13:35:pm

    and one of those swept unda the rug issues is…
    *why i can’t find a real rich BLACK lady to sugamom me lol

    NeNe the moose

    11/23/09, 13:36:pm

    I have no plans to see this movie whatsoever. The previews ARE way too depressing.

    ACE

    11/23/09, 13:39:pm

    I really am at awe people looked at this like ‘Color Purple pt2′ because that was the 1st thing I said. Even when you read the book you can tell the auther is an Alice Walker fan. However I think Precious served a point to show people this kind of behavior still exsists in AMERICAN life. Not just black life, but American life. Black folks kill me because they get so up in arms about the littlest thing like we’re better than that, but are we? We all in know someone who was raped, molested, or abused but someone whether it being a family member or other we’re not immune to the pain. I think as a people we’ve grown so acustom to hiding our pain in the dark when people come along and tell a story thats hard for our eyes and ears to handle we call it blasphemy when its as close to the truth as we’ll probably get. White folk let it out, hince Lifetime, lol.

    Queen

    11/23/09, 13:40:pm

    Peace…

    I think all persons with a heart need to see this movie not for any other reason than it might help you understand more about yourself. As a westindian born canadian raised black person i find it really dis-hearting when the original people (black) of this part of the planet get all out of pocket when things are shown about the black community that we may not like. The things in this book turned movie are REAL.. not real for all of us but real for enough of us for this to be an issue. Please stop acting like because we’re (black people) making some money that we don’t have to clean OUR OWN house. There is way more that needs to be done and alot of in-depth talks that our community needs to have. Untill then topics like this will always make us look bad. I’m sick of waking up in a world with my people just trying to get by or get rich… that’s self serving and gets US as a people nowhere. And trust me when i say we’ll be nowhere for a lot longer untill we wake up and deal with OUR issues… good or bad and that’s… “Real Talk”

    P.E.A.C.E.

    dj

    11/23/09, 13:40:pm

    Thank you Angee. Very good point and well stated!!!

    black but not african american

    11/23/09, 13:42:pm

    actually my co-worker just made sense to me. he said most tyler perry’s movie signifies what really happens in the african american community. the guns, the violence, the loud mouth talk. so i agree sorry.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 13:46:pm

    Ms.EJ

    Goodmorning Everyone hope all had a good weekend

    @PNK- *waves* Hey cyber twin lol, but on a serious note 100% agree with your comment.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hey cyber twin!!!!!! lol. Sorry I took forever, got slammed here @ work. All these God forsaken spreadsheets are making me lose my mind (& eye-sight) lol. How was your weekend? Any good movies?

    1TruDiva w/the PlatinumVocals---Pimpin, Platinum style!!! J-Hud's concert was OFF THE MEAT RACK!!!!!!!!!

    11/23/09, 13:48:pm

    BOSSIP can kiss my AZZ with their rent-to-own filtering system. I’ve been trying to join this discussion for 1/2 hour!

    I’m going to another damn website.

    Tanya

    11/23/09, 13:51:pm

    The movie was absolutely superb! I saw it on Friday and will be going to see it again some time this week. Does the movie depict African Americans? Well I guess that depends on who’s watching it. The movie theater was packed and the crowed was extremely diverse. When the movie was over everyone was talking about it, whites, blacks, Asian, etc. and most everyone was pretty much saying the same thing which was how sad the movie was.

    I’m so tired of hearing people (African American’s)say Tyler Perry has done damage to the African American community…No critics, open your eyes WE as a people have tarnished our own culture! Romello makes EXCELLENT points, it’s not because of Tyler Perry’s movies that a young man in Chicago was murdered, or a young little girl was sold by her mother into prostitution, or 6-10 black young boys raped and beat a Haitian woman and her son. We will always be a race that never progresses because we love making EXCUSES for our actions. It’s never US it’s always something or someone else. It’s the white man, the black man, police officer’s, the economy, Rap music etc. come on let’s get it together.

    We (Black People) want to see more movies that portray black families, or black men, or black woman in a more positive light. Well I’m sorry If I was a writer I would write about what I see or have experienced, and the truth of the matter is we (Black people) have dropped the ball. Every time I turn on the news (CNN) anything that has to do with black people is negative. Black man in Detroit stripped his son naked and shot him dead, like I said earlier a black mother sold her daughter into human trafficking, Anthony Sowell (black man) killed 11 woman ALL black in Cleveland Ohio. Ladies and Gentleman I could go in for days with stories like the ones I mentioned.

    You want to see more positive movies about OUR people????? Let’s start doing more positive things…Just a few suggestions…BLACK MEN start being father’s to your children they need you more then the streets, BLACK WOMEN make better choices in men, you need some money to pay your bills or to put food on the table? Well selling your child isn’t or shouldn’t be an option, stop being lazy or too proud, get a part time job at McDonald’s or burger king…it’s called sacrifice!

    Precious is a Phenomenal movie!!!! Tyler Perry keep making the movies you do, call BLACK people out on there mess! Maybe the majority of us will take heed to what your saying and some change can come about in our community!

    Ummmmmm....

    11/23/09, 13:51:pm

    @ Monica

    I agree with you…I was just saying what my Aunt had felt about it. The movie was made as the book was written and there are people out there just like Monique’s character, just like with Shaniya…may God bless her.

    I DO feel at some point we need to start making more positive films IN ADDITION to all of the wrongs and stereotypes in our community.

    BOSSIP IS WHACK!

    11/23/09, 13:54:pm

    no, b/c the issues in the movie go way beyond the black race…things like that happen in every race and every country

    Okayyyy!!!!

    11/23/09, 13:54:pm

    So if the Color Purple came out in 2009 I guess this the reviews it would have receive..Years from now we will all look at Precious as we dp the Color Purple..As A Cl*****ic..There’s girls all over the world black, white, latino, asian ect that have or are going through what Precious went through.

    soulgenius

    11/23/09, 13:55:pm

    i don’t believe this is a black or white issue. would we be happier if it was a white family or an asian family or a hispanic family? we as black people have far more things to be upset about besides a movie that tells a story about something many young black women (unfortunately) go through. it’s not a race issue period. a black woman wrote the book. are you gonna call her racist? and just because this is a story about A black family does not mean it applies to ALL black families. smh folks truly need to get a life…how about being mad at the black rappers who degrade their women and the women in the videos who let them…there’s a start….

    Me

    11/23/09, 13:56:pm

    @fabulous….You say BW have low self esteem that’s why we wear wigs, weaves and skin lighteners(which i have never seen any BW do) so what are BM’s expression of their low self esteem? Is it when you guys kill each other? your disrespect and abuse of BW? Your high incarceration rate?

    michelle

    11/23/09, 13:59:pm

    Abuse injust about every home i America. It’s not a black.

    Mr.727

    11/23/09, 14:00:pm

    This movies shows that abuse is not a black issues it show the real damage can do to one’s ability to believe in one’s self! This movie invoke me, inspired me, humbled me, took me to a dark place in my child hood where I was sexually abused! I feel that more movies like this need to be made,we need to unearth the subconscious of reality that we as a society has totally forgotten about! To be real this is the best movie of the 2000’s! I was so moved, I just couldn’t keep my eyes off the screen! We as black people need to see that life is not all about a flashy car, hoes, rapping, being so untalented singer! It is about hope, overcoming adversity in our darkest hour! I wish shows like the Cosby show, Different world would come back to open our minds, and help black folks wake up! I swear sometimes I was born back in the day, died and ended up in these times! I know why I want to be a social worker now! I want to help my community, and give a chance and help someone wanting to be helped! The 60’s was a time when black folks stuck together, loved one another, loved our black women, believed in family!

    What Happened?

    michelle

    11/23/09, 14:00:pm

    Abuse is in just about every home in America. It’s not a black thing!!

    TillDn

    11/23/09, 14:04:pm

    Read the book and saw the movie. Its called exposure. If you’ve been exposed to all different types/shades of people, you won’t notice who is light or dark. If you are a racist who will believe a hollywood movie as reality, then that will never change. Most actors want to do evil frustrated characters – it pushes you to the brink. Angelina Jole started her career as a model/heroine addict/tramp. I think it’s all about your reality.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 14:04:pm

    1TruDiva w/the PlatinumVocals—Pimpin, Platinum style!!! J-Hud’s concert was OFF THE MEAT RACK!!!!!!!!!

    BOSSIP can kiss my AZZ with their rent-to-own filtering system. I’ve been trying to join this discussion for 1/2 hour!

    I’m going to another damn website.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    No!!!!!!!! Don’t go!!!!!!!!! lol

    Redd Foxxx( This Is Gods Work You KNow Pretty Wings)

    11/23/09, 14:04:pm

    It is what it is! People need to get it together period no matter what color your skin is. Wrong is wrong and it has no color. Im sick of dumd azz people! Crying about the same ol ish! Fix it quit talking about be about!

    Buck

    11/23/09, 14:06:pm

    Every show and life is not about the Cosby’s. Every story has to be told. Maybe if Black People told all there stories and bring them to light, we could solve some of them and stop fooling ourselves and pretending that these things don’t happen. Dirt under the rug is still dirt and sooner or later, it’s going to build up an come out. If we tell the story, at least we have a little control over it. Black an black crime does exist! Unwed teenage mothers do exist! An yes Black abuse does exist,and sometimes it’s sexual. Maybe we should all put our house or car notes under the rug and see if they will go away.

    Redd Foxxx( This Is Gods Work You KNow Pretty Wings)

    11/23/09, 14:08:pm

    @ Diva

    I feel you! I think this site is run by the man or someone is being paid by the man because they wont let you post the truth! This probably wont go thru

    d. knott(detroit fresh)

    11/23/09, 14:08:pm

    this film does not portray african american living in a positive light.
    and it shouldn’t.
    this film narrates the story of a young lady and her trials and triumphs in a very realistic way.
    i know her story, i know young men and women who have lived parts of this story in their real lives.
    stories like these need to be told.
    unfortunately,the negative stories do not get as much publicity as the positive ones but, fault can be spread amongst us all for that.
    you have these black dignitaries who don’t want any negative depictions of african americans promoted and this is ridiculous.
    like one comment said, black people do far more to themselves on a daily basis than any movie ever could.
    to get rid of the weed you got to take it out by the root.

    momo

    11/23/09, 14:09:pm

    i’m so tired of black folks talking smack about how white people are trying to hold them back,*****ody is holding you back but you stop all the fussing about every dam thing under the sun.The dam movie is about abuse.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:10:pm

    If you want to talk about stereotypical, I’ve seen more stereotypical comments made on BOSSIP than I have on a daily basis. It amazes me how so many black people are so self-loathing. Precious is not the problem. It reveals what happens in households across the country – heck, even the world.

    Whatever.HecouldSTILLgetIT!!

    11/23/09, 14:10:pm

    Oh enough w/ the self-hate Bossip. Damn! This story is real. It happens done. Thank God we can now start to see it. STFU God i hate this site, but come back just to see what damage YOU all are doing to the Black Community now!!!!!

    tiredofitall

    11/23/09, 14:10:pm

    Gosh people we are too sensitive. No one said anything when the ***** of Carolina was out. Then dark/light skin issue is in the book. This is how Precious seen it. Read the book first then come with an opinion

    pynk

    11/23/09, 14:12:pm

    Redd Foxxx( This Is Gods Work You KNow Pretty Wings)

    @ Diva

    I feel you! I think this site is run by the man or someone is being paid by the man because they wont let you post the truth! This probably wont go thru
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I know, right? But, them hatin a.s.s comments always get posted tho. smh.

    Redd Foxxx( This Is Gods Work You KNow Pretty Wings)

    11/23/09, 14:15:pm

    pynk

    Redd Foxxx( This Is Gods Work You KNow Pretty Wings)

    @ Diva

    I feel you! I think this site is run by the man or someone is being paid by the man because they wont let you post the truth! This probably wont go thru
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I know, right? But, them hatin a.s.s comments always get posted tho. smh.

    RIGHT!!!!!!!!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 14:15:pm

    @Diva

    “BOSSIP can kiss my AZZ with their rent-to-own filtering system. I’ve been trying to join this discussion for 1/2 hour!”

    I would love to read your thoughts on this topic. I couldn’t stop thinking about Shaniya after watching this film. I think I’m still looking for some sort of answers in that tragedy.

    tony

    11/23/09, 14:19:pm

    @Sydney, I agress, I posted a good comment , and of course the ghetto small minded staff at Bossip won’t post it.

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 14:20:pm

    @MR. 727
    ” I wish shows like the Cosby show, Different world would come back to open our minds, and help black folks wake up! ”
    ______________________________________________________________

    LOL. Something like that would NEVER happen in today’s age of Tyler Perry, Oprah, 50 Cent, Jay Z and so on.

    The black “power players” are too concerned about lining their own pockets… yet they will brag about how they are “self made.”

    Self made by selling and perpetuating negative stereotypes of blacks. The shame is on us for not holding our celebrities more accountable. Yet we will celebrate when they are mentioned in Forbes magazine. SMH.

    Britt

    11/23/09, 14:20:pm

    This is ridiculous. This happens in the black community as well of other communities. It does not represent black culture as a whole. The movie should open the eyes to people in the black community to be aware of and take action against child abuse! Maybe if more people got involved in our community, we can get a handle on our people and lift them up! So…Dear Bossip, stop worrying about how white people will view us. The white men and women w/ racism in their hearts do NOT need the arts to help them shape an opinion about us. That goes for any other race.

    mrs5star

    11/23/09, 14:25:pm

    can not be any worst than what the news reports EVERDAY Or the tv reality shows or shows made in geneal about us.

    There will always be a problem when we have to go too THEM to create our show.

    that is why Orpah needs her OWN network. Never helsp to have to go to the opressor for help. lsap in the face!!

    black media is almost non existent because it relies on white corporation and media to exist. white media still has some control over the image and message being sent out and that is not good!!!!

    KingLion

    11/23/09, 14:27:pm

    yes!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 14:28:pm

    @Man

    I looked on IMDB.com and found some film projects under Oprah’s name that might interest you:

    – The Great Debaters (2007) (producer)
    – Their Eyes Were Watching God (2005) (TV) (executive producer)
    – Amy & Isabelle (2001) (TV) (executive producer) (producer) — (I missed this film.)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: Amy and Isabelle (USA: complete title)
    David and Lisa (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: David and Lisa (USA: complete title) (I missed this one, too)
    – Beloved (1998/I) (producer) (I read the Toni Morrison novel and viewed the film and didn’t note any negative depictions of blacks)
    – The Wedding (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: The Wedding

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:28:pm

    @Bossip, I’m with 1Tru,

    Stop this doggone filtering. You type a comment and it doesn’t show up. If you want to have a blog, let people express their opinions. All of a sudden you guys wanna get goody two-shoes on us? I didn’t even use foul language!

    Reign

    11/23/09, 14:28:pm

    The movie isn’t about Black families, it’s about families all across America that may be dealing with abuse in some form. Abuse is real! We have children all across this land showing up on the news everyday because they’re being hurt in some way. It’s a wake up call for those that know it’s happening to them or those that know someone it’s happening to or if you’re the abuser (male or female), then perhaps you won’t feel alone and unable to get some help or to move forward in your life. The vicious cycle has to stop and this movie could help. Unfortunately, Black life is under a microscope and everybody, ourselves included, embrace and *****ociate all things negative with Blacks. Other people experience these things too, but they’re not under a microscope so we don’t get to hear about their issues. Everything bad has a Black face, but that don’t make it real or true. We can stop seeing ourselves as victims and be empowered to live our lives to the fullest. We have the power! Always have.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:31:pm

    @PNK- That’s okay girl I know how it can go ;) my weekend was okay I just ended up watching Pathfinders and some movie w/Mark Wahlberg called “The Shot” or something it was alright, good action though and how was yours?

    @ITRUDIVA * REDFOXX- Hey Ladies

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:31:pm

    Hey Sydney!!!

    I made a comment about how Precious couldn’t do any more damage than the mess people sit in front of their televisions and watch week after week, i.e. reality shows, BET, and the like. I don’t even know why this was made into a racial issue in the first place. We need to quit psychoan*lizing (maybe that’s why Bossip deleted my comment because of “an*l”) everything. Take the movie for what it is and leave it at that.

    People throw shade on Tyler, yet sit and watch trash TV 24/7. Go figure.

    alpha54

    11/23/09, 14:31:pm

    I have not seen the movies, only the previews. The movie is about abuse…. physical, mentally, and verbal. It is also about incest, and denial in the families and in the community. Unfortunately, its happens more often than what most people wants to believe. This type of abuse happens in other cultural, not only in the black community. It needs to be address as a society issue not as a black issue.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:32:pm

    Hey Ms. EJ!!!

    Ummmmmm....

    11/23/09, 14:32:pm

    @ Ms.EJ

    I heard about that. It was a latina woman I believe. She eventually left him though.

    Soul Ese

    11/23/09, 14:32:pm

    Incest…..wait until the rednecks hear about this…they gonna think its a redneck movie lol

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:33:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Hey Ms. Lady- I think this year will be my last year on blogs in general. I really first heard about blogs this year and started to comment on them.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 14:34:pm

    *reading some very interesting points of view*

    Be Real

    11/23/09, 14:34:pm

    what some people don’t understand is that the movie’s purpose is to tell a story. it isn’t to represent the black culture or black families, that is not what it is for. the movie doesn’t have anything to do with race.. the same things can happen in any household with a family of any race.

    it’s a shame that people are so racially sensitive. everything isn’t about race, people are just so sensitive of that factor that they have to tag it on everything that comes up. this shouldn’t be some big issue.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:35:pm

    @UMMM- Okay, because Oprah did a follow-up up date show for most popular guest and she married the man and told the son that he needs to get counseling b/c he no longer has a mother she made her choice and choose him. I didn’t see any other follow up after that stating she did, but nonetheless, it had everyone crying and upset.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:36:pm

    @BG- Hi hadn’t seen you on here lately, but good to know you are well.

    alpha54

    11/23/09, 14:37:pm

    Correction: I meant to say the “movie” not movies

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 14:37:pm

    @WordtotheWise

    “I made a comment about how Precious couldn’t do any more damage than the mess people sit in front of their televisions and watch week after week, i.e. reality shows, BET, and the like.”

    Hey, girl! I think the damaging effects of BET alone are immeasurable.

    Butchie

    11/23/09, 14:39:pm

    Why do our movies have to be any different than “White” Movies? There are “white” movies that cover the full spectrum of life experiences…Abuse, sorrow, happiness etc. We dont here white people writing articles or having discussions about their portrayal in movies.

    If we were going to complain about our portrayal in movies, I think we can find a lot of other movies to complain about other than Precious. The reason that Precious is getting accolades is because of the performances, not the story. The Great Debaters, The secret Life of Bees and Akeelah and the Bee where excellent movies, but they did not have the great performances that Precious had. If the performances would have been average, this movie would have been out for a couple of weeks and would have been gone.

    Also, I heard an interview on NPR (National Public Radio)with the author where she addressed this issue. She said that she refused to allow the book to be made into a movie for so long, but she now felt that society could handle a movie like this now because of the number of positive images of African Americans that are currently on display in society today. She mentioned that we have an African American first family that is providing a more positive image of African Americans than any movie or show could ever provide.

    I am educated, but I feel that African American intellectuals always want to dissect movies like Precious and the Color Purple, that have critical success and moderate economical success, but they are never out there dissecting the Madeia movies of any of the other movies that really portray negative stereotypes that are move believable to larger society and are seen by more people than Precious will ever be scene.

    L.A.T.I.N.O

    11/23/09, 14:40:pm

    I saw this movie, and it made me feel sorry for black people.

    Moreaces

    11/23/09, 14:41:pm

    d. knott(detroit fresh)

    this film does not portray african american living in a positive light.
    and it shouldn’t.
    this film narrates the story of a young lady and her trials and triumphs in a very realistic way.
    i know her story, i know young men and women who have lived parts of this story in their real lives.
    stories like these need to be told.
    unfortunately,the negative stories do not get as much publicity as the positive ones but, fault can be spread amongst us all for that.
    you have these black dignitaries who don’t want any negative depictions of african americans promoted and this is ridiculous.
    like one comment said, black people do far more to themselves on a daily basis than any movie ever could.
    to get rid of the weed you got to take it out by the root.

    ================
    Yes I agree, I knew a young black lady, that went through a lot of what this girl went through in the movie, a very abusive living situation. She was basically used as a slave for the aunt she lived with. Was not even allowed to sleep on a bed, but had to sleep on the floor even though there was a daybed available for her to sleep on, the Aunts Daughter did not want her to sleep on it. So she had to sleep on the floor. She was called names, hit with whatever the Aunt could get her hands on..Told that no one wanted her, and if she did not do the “slave” work around the house, that she would be put out,,mind you she was like 17 at the time.. just evil people in this world.

    Ummmmmm....

    11/23/09, 14:41:pm

    Oh no, I didn’t see a follow-up…that is horrible. I only wish when Oprah did her show this past week with Gabby Sidibe and Saniya’s family that she did more to show white america that this IS NOT a black issue (not the abuse part, but sticking with men who abuse or offering their children for drugs) because you know this is how a lot of white america AND people abroad form their view of blacks….by what’s on Oprah. SMH

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 14:42:pm

    I just want to know when ‘The Coldest Winder Ever’ will finally be made into a film. If it’s not done right, though, I don’t want to see it…

    Come On no!

    11/23/09, 14:43:pm

    Angee please preach!!

    The only ones worried about how this movie portrays black people is black people themselves.

    Everyother blog I read, some folks (of all colors) relate to the story from their own lives, or are now opening their eyes to reality

    everything is not always black and white. Abuse knows no color

    Stop being blind by color and open your eyes to the real message of the story!!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 14:43:pm

    Hi ms. EJ
    Yeah I’m doing well

    SHIFFON

    11/23/09, 14:44:pm

    Does anyone realize everything you see on television is not real. I was based on a book of fiction if you know yor are none of these things what is the problem & its said to say this happens alot in the black community & also the white community with insest every1 is so touch this day & age you know what they tell you in school if you dont like the way something is done, when you do it do it better so if you don’t like the movie make 1 that 4 your views if you cant make a movie statrt with making your self better than your family, friends & neighborhood start somewhere besides sitting back & complaining NOW GO………….

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 14:44:pm

    **Winter

    Laurie Farmer

    11/23/09, 14:44:pm

    SYDNEY SAID:

    I made a comment about how Precious couldn’t do any more damage than the mess people sit in front of their televisions and watch week after week,

    i.e. reality shows, BET, and the like.”

    Hey, girl! I think the damaging effects of BET alone are immeasurable.

    Ms. Farmer said:

    Well said, Sydney

    Come On no!

    11/23/09, 14:45:pm

    and I find the comparion to Color Purple a bit disturbing.

    how long are we going to sweep the topic of incest, abuse and violence under the rug?

    Come On no!

    11/23/09, 14:46:pm

    @ KeepNitReal

    can you hear me all the way in the 60s? come back

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:46:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Hey Ms. Lady- I think this year will be my last year on blogs in general. I really first heard about blogs this year and started to comment on them.
    _____________________________________________
    Hey Ms. EJ :-)

    No, you can’t go! We need level-headed people on Bossip. People who bring intelligence and common sense to the threads. Why you wanna leave us like this???

    Arasiam

    11/23/09, 14:46:pm

    You all can’t separate us from each other just like white people can’t separate us from each other. Why can’t this just be a story about Precious only? Why do we all as black people feel like we have to own this. Until we start saying “that’s not me, that’s her story” they will always lump us together. They are allowed to separate their race between “crackers” and “white trash”, why do we all have to be “ni@@ers”? Makes no sense. I loved for movie for the story it told. I don’t worry about white folks judging me on a piece of ficition.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:47:pm

    @UMMMM- I understand and I know many non-black form their opinion of blacks from her show and sadly even Tyra which is another story in itself SMH. However, they shouldn’t that is simple minded to even think so.

    @CARAMEL CAT- WOW!! I forgot all about ‘The Colderst Winder Ever”.

    Butchie

    11/23/09, 14:47:pm

    Sorry I was not finished….

    I work at a very large non profit organization and I have had numerous white coworkers mention that they have seen at least one of the Medeia movies. I am sure that society can believe that black women act like Medeia at home and Black men cheat on their wives or act like any of the male characters in any of the recent Eddie Murphy movies before they think that we are living like Precious.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 14:49:pm

    @Ms.Ej

    Like Precious, that’s another book that many have read years ago and it really touched them. I wonder if Sistah Souljah doesn’t want it made into a movie….

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:50:pm

    Sydney™

    @WordtotheWise

    “I made a comment about how Precious couldn’t do any more damage than the mess people sit in front of their televisions and watch week after week, i.e. reality shows, BET, and the like.”

    Hey, girl! I think the damaging effects of BET alone are immeasurable.
    __________________________________________
    @ Sydney,

    I know that’s right. Isn’t it amazing how people down Tyler. At least he brings some positive message. Whether or not people like him or not, he does mean well.

    Hey Sydney, don’t you even think about leaving Bossip? :-) I was telling Ms. EJ, we need voices of reason, intelligence, and all here on Bossip. Even though it’s really for entertainment purposes only, it’s nice to get into through-provoking convos every once in a while. 1 Tru is already talking about moving on.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:51:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- LOL- Girl, its like I love the ones I met online who seem to be so positive and just fun, but I get tired of folks who just like to attack a person for no reason. IDK girl….it hasn’t happened often, but when it does folks go hard like its the last supper or something, lol.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:53:pm

    @CARAMEL CAT- That is a good question or maybe does not have the funding or *****istance.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 14:55:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Girl, I had a person who got mad and said “Why are you so bleeping happy?!!!” or folks get upset just because I am positive. You are right its for entertainment, but some folks do not know the difference between entertainment and life per se.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:56:pm

    Arasiam

    You all can’t separate us from each other just like white people can’t separate us from each other. Why can’t this just be a story about Precious only? Why do we all as black people feel like we have to own this.
    ________________________________________
    This is one of the prevailing issues I see with some black people. When one black person does something negative, some of us indict the whole race. I’ve heard it said time and time again, “They are making all of us look bad.” Why is what an individual does make a whole race look bad? Only small-minded, ignorant people take the behavior of a person and make it a generalization. Pure foolishness. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed that many black people have bought into this madness. We are so worried about what everything thinks about us, that some feel the need to tip-toe around the plantation all the time.

    MissG27

    11/23/09, 14:56:pm

    I saw the movie on Friday and I must say I wasn’t impressed when i left the movie theater.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 14:59:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- LOL- Girl, its like I love the ones I met online who seem to be so positive and just fun, but I get tired of folks who just like to attack a person for no reason. IDK girl….it hasn’t happened often, but when it does folks go hard like its the last supper or something, lol.
    ______________________________________
    Girl, I know. It gets crazy on here at time. But over time, I’ve learned to ignore the offenders (no names mentioned). They don’t bring anything to the table, just a bunch of foolish diatribe. If all the good people leave, Bossip won’t be any fun. I love debating issues, but sometimes I can get very frustrating. I totally understand.

    Do what I do, girl – push that invisible “ignore” button and keep it moving :-)

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:01:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- I agree. Each time a black man or woman does something then all black women or men are this and that when that is not the case. That is very irritating and extremely judgemental and stereotypical way of thinking. Or you can take race out of it and just leave it to genders if a man cheats on his wife then all men are cheaters if a woman dates a rich man then all women are gold-diggers ect.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 15:02:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Girl, I had a person who got mad and said “Why are you so bleeping happy?!!!” or folks get upset just because I am positive. You are right its for entertainment, but some folks do not know the difference between entertainment and life per se.
    ___________________________________________
    LOL, at that! Someone was made because you are happy and positive. Hon, pray for them because evidently they aren’t happy and positive. That’s the first I’ve ever heard of someone complaining because someone wasn’t hateful or negative. Unbelievable! That’s really sad. You just keep doing you and bring that positivity to the board. We need it! I know over the months, I’ve had to change my ways because I didn’t want to stoop to the level of many who love to call names. I’m too old for that mess.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:03:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- That’s okay girl I know how it can go my weekend was okay I just ended up watching Pathfinders and some movie w/Mark Wahlberg called “The Shot” or something it was alright, good action though and how was yours?

    @ITRUDIVA * REDFOXX- Hey Ladies
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    Mine was alright, I spent my weekend playing Need for Speed. lol. & I watched The Cat in the Hat movie. & Then I watched Demolition Man! That’s my favorite Sylvester Stallone movie. Lol. I swear, that man was SO FOINE back in the day!!! lol

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:04:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- You know what I told someone the same thing not too long ago on another blog that I use to frequent and post comments on often (ONLY 2 blogs I post or use to post on-this BLOG & another one) you are right :)

    Athina

    11/23/09, 15:06:pm

    People should read the book…the story reflects one reality. It does not try to say that all black folks (and black men) are like this…It’s more about poverty and desperation than race.

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 15:07:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “I looked on IMDB.com and found some film projects under Oprah’s name that might interest you:

    – The Great Debaters (2007) (producer)
    – Their Eyes Were Watching God (2005) (TV) (executive producer)
    – Amy & Isabelle (2001) (TV) (executive producer) (producer) — (I missed this film.)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: Amy and Isabelle (USA: complete title)
    David and Lisa (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: David and Lisa (USA: complete title) (I missed this one, too)
    – Beloved (1998/I) (producer) (I read the Toni Morrison novel and viewed the film and didn’t note any negative depictions of blacks)
    – The Wedding (1998) (TV) (executive producer)
    … aka Oprah Winfrey Presents: The Wedding”
    ___________________________________________________________

    **sigh**

    Must you turn this into a research *****igment???

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:07:pm

    @WordtotheWise

    “Hey Sydney, don’t you even think about leaving Bossip?”

    Girl, I’ve been trying for the past 15 minutes to post a comment that pertains to the topic, and I’ve been stymied. This needs to be fixed. I’m sure other people are trying to post as well.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:07:pm

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Right on! and I will thanks girly :)

    @PNK- Girl, Stallone did look good back then…hey have you’ve seen that movie “Cobra” with Stallone? love that movie. I have a bunch of 80s and 90s movies from: Splash w/Tom Hanks, Urban Cowboy w/Travolta to Changeling.

    kisses

    11/23/09, 15:08:pm

    PRESIOUS GIVING A NEGATIVE IMAGE ON BLACKS???Negative image my *****. If this movie was about a white family, black folks wouldn’t have anything to say…Im black and im a victim of abuse. NOT BY MY PARENTS….The movie is all reality and yes NOT ALL BLACK FOLKS are like that.PRECIOUS SHOULD NOT BE OWNED BY ALL BLACKS IF THAT NOT THEM…IM BLACK, PRECIOUS ISN’T ME…THAT’S NOT MY STORY…IT’S NOT EVEN THE STORY OF THE GIRL PLAYING (PRECIOUS) THE PART. The girl who play Precious is college educated with a wonderful mother and father that she is proud of. This isn’t her story…but this story can be owned by a BLACK/WHITE/CHINESE/LATIN girl…Black folks stop being so sensitive…It’s just a story…I’ve got some real life story i could write, like what I’ve experienced and also about different families i know…I wonder what will you all think about that. We all might look different, but it’s the same color blood that runs through our veins, forget about what other ignorant people of our own race or other races thinks about us…we are human beings just the same. Live your life and enjoy it before you depart to the next.

    SICK OF IT ALL

    11/23/09, 15:09:pm

    It’s a movie about abuse, which is commonplace in all cultures/races. Just watch the news, cnn etc. you will see that this happens all the time. Maybe not to the extent of Precious, but it does happen. It shouldn’t be taken lightly. This story wasn’t about black people as many have stated, it was about rape, abuse, bullies etc.

    LeeLee

    11/23/09, 15:10:pm

    This debate is ridiculous. “Precious” can not and will not harm the community the way that SOME of these so-called hip-hop artists have. Your worried about how the rest of the world will perceive us when WE continuously cause a rift in how we perceive each other. Let’s get OUR issues in order and then worry about “Precious” and “MADEA.”

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:11:pm

    @Man

    “Must you turn this into a research *****igment???”

    LOL, yes, when you state that Oprah has helmed film projects that have provided noxious depictions of the black community. She was involved in one of the most positive films with a predominantly black cast — “The Great Debaters.”

    :)

    Lee Lee

    11/23/09, 15:12:pm

    Only ignorant black people would say it makes us look bad. It’s about abuse and it was depicted through the black culture. White people do crazy sh**! They just too afraid to show their sh**! All movies aint gonna be happy go lucky cause that’s not real. It is what it is!

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 15:13:pm

    Ms. EJ,

    Yeah, you know. It’s true.

    LeeLee

    11/23/09, 15:13:pm

    If you want to see an example of the aforementioned “rift”, please direct your attention to the post regarding Beanie Segal and Jay-Z. Let’s get a clue people.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:14:pm

    @SYDNEY- The Great Debaters along w/Akeelah and The B are some really good movies. I liked Miracle at St Anna too was sad, but very good.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:14:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Right on! and I will thanks girly

    @PNK- Girl, Stallone did look good back then…hey have you’ve seen that movie “Cobra” with Stallone? love that movie. I have a bunch of 80s and 90s movies from: Splash w/Tom Hanks, Urban Cowboy w/Travolta to Changeling.
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    I haven’t seen it, but I’ll pick it up this weekend. Friday is PAYDAY!!!!!! lol

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 15:14:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @WORDTOTHEWISE- Right on! and I will thanks girly
    ________________________________________________
    Girl, you are so welcome!

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:15:pm

    Sydney™

    @Man

    “Must you turn this into a research *****igment???”

    LOL, yes, when you state that Oprah has helmed film projects that have provided noxious depictions of the black community. She was involved in one of the most positive films with a predominantly black cast — “The Great Debaters.”
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    Preach!!!!! lol

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:16:pm

    “Cobra” is the movie with Stallone’s ex-wife Brigitte Nielsen, right?

    I loved “Splash” and “Big,” and, of course, “Sleepless in Seattle,” as far as early Tom Hanks films go. Travolta and Debra Winger were great in “Urban Cowboy.”

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 15:17:pm

    Sydney™

    @WordtotheWise

    “Hey Sydney, don’t you even think about leaving Bossip?”

    Girl, I’ve been trying for the past 15 minutes to post a comment that pertains to the topic, and I’ve been stymied. This needs to be fixed. I’m sure other people are trying to post as well.
    _______________________________________
    Sydney, yes, others have because I know I’ve had a problem. It’s funny how Bossip is attempting to clean up their blog, yet post some of the most obnoxious threads I’ve ever seen. I understand how they want to limit the filthiness, but it starts with them. I mean, they’re always talking about someone “chopping down a woman’s back” or “soaking up panties” or “Which one would you hit?” mess, yet want to limit what everyone else says.

    Oh Dear

    11/23/09, 15:18:pm

    Has anybody been watching the Cleveland show? White creators, white writers, and a few black actors. It is soooo racist and stereotypical. Where is the boycott? After last nights episode I will not be watching any more.

    But people want to talk about ‘Precious.’ GTFOH.

    rose by any other name #9304026339482056536 ™

    11/23/09, 15:18:pm

    @Redd Foxx~ I agree its best to be about it , and some of these clowns namely one that comes on here yakking about folks should help in the black community,, what a fu**ing idiot, this is a blog its for entertainment and opinions . i hate these higher than thou so called Christian folks who come on here bashing people on a gossip blog!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:19:pm

    @ MAN
    Are you ok in here brother?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:19:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “Akeelah and the Bee” was excellent. I loved Laurence Fishburne in it as well.

    @Pynk

    “Preach!!!!! lol”

    lol

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:19:pm

    @PNK- Get it girl I love that movie.

    @SYDNEY- You it sure is. I liked Big too, never got into Sleepless In Seattle, but I liked Fried Green Tomatos, Divine YaYa Sisterhood, American Quilt, City of Angels so many great movies.

    WordtotheWise

    11/23/09, 15:19:pm

    @Sydney, how many black people even attempted to see The Great Debaters?

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:20:pm

    Yes, it sure is correction

    Krash25

    11/23/09, 15:20:pm

    I don’t think people should knock Precious simply because it doesn’t put black people on a pedastel and doesn’t try to avoid every single thing that might upset the black community. If it did, it wouldn’t be realistic and all this Oscar buzz would be over nothing. However, they don’t need to over do the racial stereotypes (as Mr.White said earlier) if that’s the case.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:22:pm

    *waves* @ROSE BY ANOTHER ROSE- That day is almost here are (Thanksgiving)hopefully you can rest aftewards.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:22:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    I’m a hopeless romantic, so I LOVE “Sleepless in Seattle,” “When Harry Met Sally,” and the like.

    Girl, “Fried Green Tomatoes” is one of my favorite “chick flicks.” I’ve watched it tens of times. Did you like “The Joy Luck Club?” I have it at home, too.

    Man, I just don't care™

    11/23/09, 15:22:pm

    @BG
    Are you ok in here brother?
    ___________________________________________________________

    NAW, they been beatin my azz in here today!

    LadyInBlack

    11/23/09, 15:25:pm

    BLACK PPL ALWAYS COMPLAINING…SHUT UP. hell this happens to all families. dayum. Blacks dont need a movie to send out the wrong message they do it to themselves.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:26:pm

    @BG & MIJDC- hi

    @SYDNEY- Yes, I loved the Joy Luck Club too!!!! Hey you know what movie dealt with this subject almost was Dolores Caliborne a good deep movie too. What are some comedys that you like?

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:26:pm

    @BG
    Are you ok in here brother?
    ___________________________________________________________

    NAW, they been beatin my azz in here today!
    ___________________________________
    LOL! I see. I would helped but I had a cup of coffee in my hands

    We All Fall Short of God's Glory!!!!

    11/23/09, 15:26:pm

    My thoughts on the black race is as follows: We as a community true enough have issues, but at the same time we need to stop embracing only negativity. We as a race are literally representative of the character “Precious”, yes we have faults, but other races have made us feel so horrible about who we are as a race that we feel naturally compelled to only see ourselves in a negative light.

    Have you noticed any black person that is living their life with dignity and respect?

    The child who is making A’s in school? (Don’t say you don’t know one…If you don’t let me introduce you to my son, Jay. He’s a honor student, an athlete, and an all round respectable young man.)

    Yes, Jay lives in a one parent household, but when has that stopped anyone from attaining success?

    I always tell Jay that if his life does not turn out the way he desires he will have no one to blame for that but himself. It does not matter what your mother or father is; it only matters what you believe about yourself!

    I also have a friend who gave up the profession of nursing in order to start a nonprofit to help senior citizens in our local community. She is doing what God has anointed her to do.

    I have several teachers I could speak about who came to school early and left late because they love educationing children.

    How about the barber, the cook, the coach, the firefighter, the lawyer, the community organizers, etc…that we know in our communities who are making a difference.

    I repeat yes we have problems but start patting the people on the back who are positive.

    The local and national news media already place us in a negative light. It time for people who are responsible to stand up and say we are here, we are taking care of our family, and we will not be silent anymore!!!!

    Are you a responisble person? Does it or would it make you mad if someone always generalized you?

    If the answer is YES then start making a difference!!!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:26:pm

    Ms. EJ
    I spoke to you hours ago. It’s all good tho!

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:27:pm

    yall still debating this movie?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:27:pm

    @WordtotheWise

    “@Sydney, how many black people even attempted to see The Great Debaters?”

    I think every Tyler Perry film probably out-performed it in the first weekend.

    How many of us went to see “Eve’s Bayou” (another cl*****ic directed by a sister, Kasi Lemmons)?

    Gimmeabreak 78

    11/23/09, 15:27:pm

    @Oh Dear

    The Cleveland Show is a spinoff of Family Guy, which itself is sterotype-ridden animated series. Shows like Family Guy and The Cleveland Show are equal-opportunity offenders. They make light of everything from parapalegics, child molestation, religion, rape, and terrorism. They are not picking on black people. They are picking on absolutely everyone.

    Those shows are meant to be taken seriously–they’re cartoons, for crying out loud.

    as seen on t.v.

    11/23/09, 15:27:pm

    I remember years ago they were supposed to do an updated version of Cleopatra with an all black cast…Nothing ever came of it because no one would fund it…Would black people support a movie like that?…What about a movie about the black soldiers who built the bridges in Alaska?…Or perhaps the story of Madame CJ Walker or a movie about homeless advocate Bea Gaddy…We can’t expect Hollywood to look out for us when it comes to making positive black films because we don’t support positive black movies…Akeelah and the B was a great movie and so was the movie with J-Hud, Queen Latifah and Alicia Keys, but no one ran out to the theaters to see those and so movie execs don’t see us as viable and therefore the stories that should be told don’t get told…Anytime Paranormal Activity a low budget horror flick can make millions from word of mouth the same thing should happen for this movie…

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:28:pm

    @SYDNEY- I like romance flicks, but I’m more of the action flick and adventure type movie like Enemy of the State, Lethal Weapon, Heat type movies and/or Lord of the Rings, Labryinth(sp) etc.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:30:pm

    @BG- LMBO!!! I’m sorry I just scrolled all the way up and saw your response.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:30:pm

    Man, I just don’t care™

    @BG
    Are you ok in here brother?
    ___________________________________________________________

    NAW, they been beatin my azz in here today!
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    lol. Just cause Sydney’s tryna school you? C’mon brotha! lol

    Miss B

    11/23/09, 15:32:pm

    I think I’m late into the discussion…

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:32:pm

    Man, I just don’t care™

    @BG
    Are you ok in here brother?
    ___________________________________________________________

    NAW, they been beatin my azz in here today!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    lol. Just cause Sydney’s tryna school you? C’mon brotha! lol
    ______________________________________
    I think they have both made some strong points.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:32:pm

    Hey Syd…

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:33:pm

    @BG

    “LOL! I see. I would helped but I had a cup of coffee in my hands”

    ——————DOA———————–

    @Ms. EJ

    I loved Dolores Claiborne! I like both Kathy Bates and Jennifer Jason Leigh (another good actress from the 80’s/early 90’s — “Single White Female”), and some of the lines were so quotable, I still repeat them (“Sometimes being a b**ch is all a woman has to hold onto”).

    What comedies do I like? Well, I loved Eddie Murphy’s early films, from Beverly Hills Cop to Trading Places. As far as cl*****ics are concerned, it doesn’t get much funnier than Richard Pryor’s “Stir Crazy” to me. I like Robin Williams and Ben Stiller as well. As far as indie comedies, I’ve liked some of Woody Allen’s films such as “Manhattan Murder Mystery.” And you?

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:33:pm

    @PNK- Are you doing any cooking for Thanksgiving?

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:33:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @SYDNEY- I like romance flicks, but I’m more of the action flick and adventure type movie like Enemy of the State, Lethal Weapon, Heat type movies and/or Lord of the Rings, Labryinth(sp) etc.

    You and I could be friends ….I love lord of the rings

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:35:pm

    @SYDNEY- Girl, I can’t get into nothing with Woody Allen he is just disgusting to me like a pedophile who married his own adopted daughter and dogged his wife out. But, I like the other ones you mentioned as well as Ms. Doubtfire, and Something About Mary.

    Miss B

    11/23/09, 15:35:pm

    I’m gonna jump in for a minute….

    Ms.EJ and Lady A….

    Pan’s Labyrinth is good. Reminds me a bit of Legend with Tom Cruise.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:35:pm

    Gimmeabreak 78

    @Oh Dear

    The Cleveland Show is a spinoff of Family Guy, which itself is sterotype-ridden animated series. Shows like Family Guy and The Cleveland Show are equal-opportunity offenders. They make light of everything from parapalegics, child molestation, religion, rape, and terrorism. They are not picking on black people. They are picking on absolutely everyone.

    Those shows are meant to be taken seriously–they’re cartoons, for crying out loud.
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    EXACTLY!!! smh…

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:36:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “@SYDNEY- I like romance flicks, but I’m more of the action flick and adventure type movie like Enemy of the State, Lethal Weapon, Heat type movies and/or Lord of the Rings, Labryinth(sp) etc.”

    Girl, I’ve loved some action flicks, too. Enemy of the State was great, and I loved “Heat” (How can you go wrong with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro playing nemeses?). “Die Hard” was one of my favorites back in the 80’s (“Yippee ki yah, *****fu*ka”).

    JB(2days and counting until it's time to eat!)

    11/23/09, 15:36:pm

    **PEAKING IN THE WINDOW**

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:36:pm

    @LADY A-HEY!!!! That was one of my fathers favorite movie(s) (RIP DADDY) I can watch that over and over again.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:37:pm

    You and I could be friends ….I love lord of the rings
    ________________________________________
    NERDS!

    trs

    11/23/09, 15:37:pm

    TWIN♥!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You and I could be friends ….I love lord of the rings

    —————————————————

    Hey Girl!!! You should read the books if you haven’t already…they put the movies to shame!

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:38:pm

    Miss B,
    I like that movie too

    Hey ms. EJ!

    JB!!!!!!!!!…Miss you already :(

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:38:pm

    @JB- *waves*

    @MISS B- hey girly…WHAT!!!!!! Legend I have that and folks that I know or met have never heard of it. Love that movie.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:38:pm

    as seen on t.v.

    I remember years ago they were supposed to do an updated version of Cleopatra with an all black cast…Nothing ever came of it because no one would fund it…Would black people support a movie like that?…What about a movie about the black soldiers who built the bridges in Alaska?…Or perhaps the story of Madame CJ Walker or a movie about homeless advocate Bea Gaddy…We can’t expect Hollywood to look out for us when it comes to making positive black films because we don’t support positive black movies…Akeelah and the B was a great movie and so was the movie with J-Hud, Queen Latifah and Alicia Keys, but no one ran out to the theaters to see those and so movie execs don’t see us as viable and therefore the stories that should be told don’t get told…Anytime Paranormal Activity a low budget horror flick can make millions from word of mouth the same thing should happen for this movie…
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I totally agree! When we go out & get movies on bootleg, this is the domino effect it has on our movies.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:39:pm

    @TRS- *ehug* hey Ms. Lady

    Flack

    11/23/09, 15:39:pm

    95 percent of us are mindless sheep. The suggestion that this is “just a movie” is proof of that. Birth of a Nation was “just a movie” that ushered in a new era of white supremacist terrorism. Some people decry the depiction of black women in rap videos then celebrate Halle Berry for playing the role of a black woman whose response to the death of her only child is to BEG the nearest redneck to “make me feel good”! WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:39:pm

    Bg(~007~)
    NERDS!

    *rolls eyes*

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:40:pm

    Hey BG :)

    @Ms. EJ

    “Something About Mary” was laugh-out-loud hilarious. I really gained respect for Cameron Diaz. She’s actually a really funny actress.

    I think some of Jack Nicholson’s films have been pretty funny (“Something’s Gotta Give”).

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:40:pm

    trs

    Hey Girl!!! You should read the books if you haven’t already…they put the movies to shame!

    I guess I need to read the books…I wish I had read them before the movie

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:41:pm

    @PNK- Okay, this is something I can’t stand is a bootleg movie. My friend once got me all excited he had gotten all the movies I wanted to see for the weekend. Now, I’m thinking its from Blockbuster or Hollywood video but it was BOOTLEG! I don’t do bootlegs sorry, plus it takes away from the movie the quality everything. My first and last time. He was like “Oh my bad I know next time” LOL he was cool though.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:41:pm

    Hey TRS! :)

    For all the Peter Jackson (“Lord of the Rings”) fans, he has a new film coming out that looks very engaging, “The Lovely Bones.”

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:42:pm

    @FLACK- Great point minus the 95% part, but good point.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:43:pm

    @ SYD
    Me, you, my bootleg copy of “Secret life of Bees”… Do we have a date?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:43:pm

    I missed “Pan’s Labyrinth” (have to watch it soon), but “The Devil’s Backbone” was excellent.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:43:pm

    I like musicals too…I’m a big “chicago” , “moulin rouge”, “grease” etc fan

    Can’t wait to see the movie “nine”

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:44:pm

    @SYDNEY- Really? what did it seem to be about from what you seen from the previews or clips?

    trs

    11/23/09, 15:44:pm

    Shout out to

    Sydney!!!!!!!
    MS. EJ (cyber hugs back)
    BG

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:45:pm

    I like musicals too…I’m a big “chicago” , “moulin rouge”, “grease” etc fan

    Can’t wait to see the movie “nine”
    ________________________________
    Ultra Lame! sorry boo!

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:45:pm

    @LADY A- I like musicals too, but couldn’t get into Chicago and Mouline Rouge was good, now GREASE!!!!!!! girl I know the dance moves everything. Its a good chick and male flick too.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:46:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- Are you doing any cooking for Thanksgiving?
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    I’m doing dessert & appetizers this year. All the other females in the family are doing everything else. It’s about time… lol

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:46:pm

    bg,
    whatever…

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:47:pm

    @BG

    “Me, you, my bootleg copy of “Secret life of Bees”… Do we have a date?”

    LOL, I tried watching it with a friend on DVD, and I fell asleep. I have to give it a second try.

    Have you been to any of the weekly free arts performances at the Kennedy Center? :)

    @Ms. EJ

    “The Lovely Bones” is an adaptation of a best-selling novel (which I would like to read) about a girl who’s murdered in the 1970s and her spirit continues to visit her family as they grapple with her death and try to solve the crime.

    Tracey

    11/23/09, 15:47:pm

    Yes, this movie is sending the wrong message about black people.

    It maybe a true story, but the truth is HOMICIDE AND SUICIDE are the main causes to death in the black community, so why then do we need depressing and violent movies *****g us down further?

    Why oh why is it Hollywood doesnt take notice on the black communit UNTIL our stars act in a NEGATIVE FILM!

    We need aspiration, hope, truimp, love and happiness, we dont need despressing things, and voilent glorifiers!

    This movie has two aims and two aims only 1, an OSCAR, TWO to bring us down mentally!

    You have to be an I.D.I.O.T to pay to watch anything that will depress the f.u.c.k out of you!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:48:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    Susan Sarandon plays the girl’s grandmother, and I love her acting. I saw the preview, and visually, it looks like a beautiful, moving film.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:49:pm

    @PNK- What is your choice for dessert? I’m doing carrot cake (suggested by TRS out of the many great suggestions).

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:51:pm

    @SYDNEY- I definitely would like to see that movie.

    Tracey

    11/23/09, 15:51:pm

    Look at the image up top, a fat dark black skin girl who hates herself, next to a slim light skin pretty woman….WFT, no wonder we have a black president with a black wife and still struggle mentally and physically!

    Nothing wrong with been dark black, fat or female, as long as you love yoursel and aspire to be the best you can be from the inside out!

    Diane

    11/23/09, 15:51:pm

    Yes, the movie sends the wrong message. And just think Tyler and Oprah is at the helm of it (however, not really surprised.) I love the way Tyler “only” continues the stereotypes placed upon us, he never does anything to redefine the stereotypes. Why did Tyler and Oprah keep up the stereotype of portraying “light-skinned” black people as the saviors for the “dark-skinned” black people. And please, don’t say it’s because they were the better actresses, come on. It’s the Tyler Effect: keeping your black ***** ignorant, down and feeling sorry for yourself so that you can keep coming to his trifling and sorry ***** movies for empty answers. Now, go in there and get you a big ole gl***** of that kool-aid, ya heard me.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:53:pm

    @SYDNEY- I love Susan Surandon from Thelma and Louise and The Client.

    QUESTION TO ALL: Was Snakes on a Plane suppose to be a comedy? I could never figure that out.

    Tracey

    11/23/09, 15:53:pm

    I wouldnt watch this movie even if I was given a pirated clear copy DVD for FREE, I would throw it in the bin!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 15:54:pm

    QUESTION TO ALL: Was Snakes on a Plane suppose to be a comedy? I could never figure that out.
    ________________________________________
    Wow, you watched that?

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 15:56:pm

    @BG- Yep, sure did when nothing else was on tv and I wasn’t feeling well to get up for the DVDs in another room.

    Peter

    11/23/09, 15:56:pm

    If you place success on “money” then Tyler is successful. But it’s the same as having pimps and hustlers as a role model, they may make the money but they are in no means successful. Trust me, Tyler’s London Bridge has to fall soon because there are not enough young people to keep him going. Oh, I forgot about all the church people they keeps him in bizness. Yeah, Tyler is their savior. Have you ever stop to wonder why Al Sharpton never protested on the integrity of his movies, but Al has been influential in shutting down less offensive black sitcoms. It’s called payola, chile, and Tyler is the HNIC.

    JDavis

    11/23/09, 15:57:pm

    Well, I’m sure that if Tiny and Toya and Frankie and Neffe can portray black folks to the world, this movie can as well…SMH.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:57:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- Okay, this is something I can’t stand is a bootleg movie. My friend once got me all excited he had gotten all the movies I wanted to see for the weekend. Now, I’m thinking its from Blockbuster or Hollywood video but it was BOOTLEG! I don’t do bootlegs sorry, plus it takes away from the movie the quality everything. My first and last time. He was like “Oh my bad I know next time” LOL he was cool though.
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    I hope it wasn’t for a date! lol. That’s funny. But, I don’t like bootleg AT. ALL. Or even the ones that are stolen from the internet either. My co-workers husband got busted by the FBI doing that stuff. I believe that Universal Studios was looking to sue him, but idk what happened since. I’ll gladly pay $7.50 before I have to pay a $250,000 fine, a-thank you… lol

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 15:58:pm

    I like snakes on a plane…It was hilarious…the graphics were terrible.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 15:58:pm

    Ms. EJ, I’m sure you liked “Steel Magnolias” as well, no?

    Oh Dear

    11/23/09, 15:58:pm

    @ Gimme a break and Pynk

    pynk

    11/23/09, 15:59:pm

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    I like musicals too…I’m a big “chicago” , “moulin rouge”, “grease” etc fan

    Can’t wait to see the movie “nine”
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    I loved Grease! Never get tired of it. & I LOVE, LOVE, LOVED RENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Please

    11/23/09, 15:59:pm

    This movie cand do what Rappers have already done. When it comes to sending the wrong message about our people. Its too late for all that.

    Ummmmmm....

    11/23/09, 16:00:pm

    @ Diane

    I didn’t catch on to the “light-skinned” saviors in the movie…interesting. Not having read the book, is this how they were described in it? What about the fact that she was also saved by lesbians who took her in? If that’s how they were described in the book, then that says more about the author’s issues than anything.

    Peter

    11/23/09, 16:00:pm

    No one is saying that this story shouldn’t be told, or that we are embarr*****ed of the story. It’s just that the story should not be for entertainment purposes. This movie should be distributed in the educational system and have people write papers on the topic for a better understanding. But, no way should this be prime time television or box office entertainment. No way.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:00:pm

    Pynk,
    Rent was good too…I watched that with my roomies over and over

    Oh Dear

    11/23/09, 16:01:pm

    @ Gimme a break and Pynk

    Bossip won’t post my comment.

    I used The Cleveland Show as example of people willing to swallow what White people will give us aka The Cleveland Show which is written and produced by white people and is terribly stereotypical but won’t support Precious which is written, produced, starring, and directed by Black people.

    I understand where you both are coming from but you have to realize that when we sit and let White people degrade us-comedy or not- and then turn our backs to what black artist do we are only hurting ourselves.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:01:pm

    @PNK- O NO GIRL!, no date (plus I don’t do no dates at my house, we have to go out) but my really good male friend for some years now. I know that’s right it is not worth it.

    @SYDNEY- I have that movie too along with Beaches w/Bett Milder.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:02:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- What is your choice for dessert? I’m doing carrot cake (suggested by TRS out of the many great suggestions).
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    I 2nd that! I made a carrot cake last year & it was DELICIOUS! Never underestimate Betty Crocker! lmao! But, also, I made this dessert from Williams-Sonoma. I sampled it, & HAD to take it home to make! I was about $10 per cake mix, & $9 for the pumpkin pecan butter (or something like that… lol), but it was SOOO worth it! I’m gonna look for the link to send to you.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:03:pm

    @LADY A- It wasn’t bad, but it kept my interest to watch it through, but I couldn’t figure if it was for comedy or serious. It did have some funny moments though for real.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:03:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    “@SYDNEY- I have that movie too along with Beaches w/Bett Milder.”

    Beaches! You are the wind beneath my wings. . .

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:04:pm

    *Confession*
    I did happen to like “Lil shop of Horrors”

    *Shrugs*

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:05:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- O NO GIRL!, no date (plus I don’t do no dates at my house, we have to go out) but my really good male friend for some years now. I know that’s right it is not worth it.

    @SYDNEY- I have that movie too along with Beaches w/Bett Milder.
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    I LOVE Beaches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:06:pm

    Ms. EJ it was a comedy to me and I like movies with great graphics….

    Bg,
    I knew you were a nerd deep down…thats my movie too

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:08:pm

    @BG

    “*Confession*
    I did happen to like “Lil shop of Horrors””

    LOL! OK, I don’t feel bad for liking “Xanadu.”

    @Ms. EJ

    I liked Working Girl, too.

    JB(ACC basketball, SEC basketball! Who gonna check us Boo?!)

    11/23/09, 16:09:pm

    ** yelling and knocking on the window cause BG locked the door **

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:09:pm

    *is lurking and happy that the discussion has turned more light-hearted*

    rosa

    11/23/09, 16:09:pm

    i dont think it sends the wrong message, because these type of situation can happened in any culture.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:10:pm

    ** yelling and knocking on the window cause BG locked the door **
    ____________________________________
    My bad suga….come on in! I knew I heard something

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:10:pm

    @PNK- Girl please do send that link if you can find it.

    Diane

    11/23/09, 16:12:pm

    @Ummmmmm
    Who were the social workers? What was the role of Paula Patton, Mariah Carey and Grace Hightower? Lawd, wiffout all dem light-skinned peoples, whatz we’se gone do.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:12:pm

    @SYDNEY & PNK- Girl Beaches is a beautiful movie.

    @BG- I liked that movie too.

    doon doon

    11/23/09, 16:14:pm

    N*GRO MOVIE AT IT’S FINEST……

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:15:pm

    Random: Where is Redd Tony? Black Man? would like some other males, plus they seem very nice. I always like to know what movies touch men especially romantic.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:15:pm

    @ ms. Ej

    Do you have an e-mail I can send the recipe to? The site is filtering the links… lol

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:17:pm

    @Ms. EJ

    Beaches is beautiful, but it requires a box of Kleenex. The same with Fried Green Tomatoes, Steel Magnolias, etc.

    A man recommended The Illusionist (with Ed Norton) to me recently, and I loved it, and it had a romantic perspective.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:17:pm

    Ms.EJ

    Random: Where is Redd Tony? Black Man? would like some other males, plus they seem very nice. I always like to know what movies touch men especially romantic.
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    Day’s gonna get you for not including him in that list… lol

    Mary

    11/23/09, 16:17:pm

    This is kind of a dead point to bring up. There are numerous movies that display white people as pretty awful too…. Natural Born Killers, Little Boy Blue, Alpha Dogg, Black Snake Moan, .. the list goes on. Tons of movies portray tons of races negatively. Thats why they are considered entertainment. While they may reflect SOME aspects of the race that are true, they ultimately serve the purpose of entertainment. If you want to get worked up over something how about real racial injustices like Megan Williams, etc.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:18:pm

    Wow, how could I forget Terms of Endearment?

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:18:pm

    Sydney™

    @Ms. EJ

    Beaches is beautiful, but it requires a box of Kleenex. The same with Fried Green Tomatoes, Steel Magnolias, etc.

    A man recommended The Illusionist (with Ed Norton) to me recently, and I loved it, and it had a romantic perspective.
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    Ed Norton is FINE! Whoo Lord! lol

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:19:pm

    I like Lifetime movies too y’all!!!!!! lol

    ROMEO 2

    11/23/09, 16:20:pm

    EWW SHE IS FAT BLACK AND UGLY, SHE LOOKS LIKE THOSE KIND OF CHICS WHO BEG ME AT THE CLUB TO FOLLOW THEM HOME,AND ILL HAVE BEST SEX EVER WITH THEM… EWW AGAIN THEY COULD HAVE USED MEGAN GOODMAN FOR A DARK SKIN GIRL.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:20:pm

    @PNK- Girl, I knew I was forgetting someone yeah where is Daywalker too? Girl, I have an email, but its my full name I don’t want the crazies to have access to me. Do you have one? I need to make up a fake one and from there we can email each other.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:20:pm

    @Mary

    Good point, ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’ dealt with some serious issues and their mother was a huge obese woman that needed a forklift to get her out of the house when she died…I just get tired of our people wanting to OWN everything…if it’s not your story it’s not your story….

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:22:pm

    Caramel Cat you don’t have to be economically deprived to be abused, people with money and who grew up middle cl***** and wealthy have suffered the same kind of abuse. Abuse not only has no race it also has no gender, political affiliation,socio-economic cl***** or sexual orientation. It’s just abuse.

    JB(ACC basketball, SEC basketball! Who gonna check us Boo?!)

    11/23/09, 16:22:pm

    Now that’s better!! What’s going on yall?

    @ Syd I watched Steel Magnolias this weekend. I know Shelby is gonna die but I still cry everytime. Try watching that followed by beaches

    Elana

    11/23/09, 16:22:pm

    Sure, white people stereotype us from the negative
    images that they see of us in the media, and the
    movies. This topic however of child abuse, and sexual abuse needs to be continually exposed, and
    explored. Precious has a black cast, but this problem is not only confined to some of our comunnities, but to other communities. Let us hope that with more exposure to the problems of sexual abuse, this will lead to more children being save from this depravity.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:23:pm

    @I HATE the N WORD

    Caramel Cat you don’t have to be economically deprived to be abused, people with money and who grew up middle cl***** and wealthy have suffered the same kind of abuse. Abuse not only has no race it also has no gender, political affiliation,socio-economic cl***** or sexual orientation. It’s just abuse.

    ~~~~

    I know this. Is this in response to something I posted?

    Gimmeabreak 78

    11/23/09, 16:23:pm

    @Oh Dear

    Oh Dear

    @ Gimme a break and Pynk

    Bossip won’t post my comment.

    “I used The Cleveland Show as example of people willing to swallow what White people will give us aka The Cleveland Show which is written and produced by white people and is terribly stereotypical but won’t support Precious which is written, produced, starring, and directed by Black people.”

    I really don’t understand why you are comparing a cartoon that is intentionally offensive to produce laughts to a movie that has treats offensive subject matter seriously, with the intention to be thought-provoking.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:24:pm

    “My Sister’s Keeper” had me ballin in the movie theater

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:24:pm

    Did Bossip edit the word “CL*****” are you effing kidding me Bossip. You all are some losers!

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:25:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- Girl, I knew I was forgetting someone yeah where is Daywalker too? Girl, I have an email, but its my full name I don’t want the crazies to have access to me. Do you have one? I need to make up a fake one and from there we can email each other.
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    mine has my real name too! lol. & the system here, blocks out other e-mails sites (Yahoo, GMail, etc.) lol

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:28:pm

    Yeah your first post. You said it happens in trailor parks too, their is a socio-economic cl***** tied to trailor parks also a mind frame but its too late in the day for all of that. I was just making the point that we need to be cognizant just cuz Precious involves a black family in poverty doesn’t mean sisters and brothers (and others) on Park Ave or elsewhere in America don’t deal with the same issue. Sometimes the fact that the abuser has money makes it even harder for people to believe you.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:28:pm

    I like Lifetime movies too y’all!!!!!! lol
    __________________________________________
    I wish the cable company would remove this station from my subscription, I would actually pay them for it

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:28:pm

    @Pynk

    “Ed Norton is FINE! Whoo Lord! lol”

    I met him once in person (he’s involved in some political causes), and he was very nice and un*****uming.

    @Caramel

    “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape” was another good movie.

    @JB

    “@ Syd I watched Steel Magnolias this weekend. I know Shelby is gonna die but I still cry everytime. Try watching that followed by beaches”

    I love the scene in Steel Magnolias in which Sally Field breaks down after the funeral, and Olympia Dukakis uses Shirley MacLaine to cheer her up. It just reminds me of the power of the friendships among women.

    I have a mental list of scenes that always trigger the waterworks. For example, in The Joy Luck Club, there’s a conversation between one of the actresses and her mother in the kitchen after they’ve had an argument. The daughter expresses her belief that she has disappointed her mother, and the mother says to her that she only has hope for her and that she “sees” who she is as a person. It just touches me every single time.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:30:pm

    “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape”
    __________________________
    Cl*****ic!

    JB(ACC basketball, SEC basketball! Who gonna check us Boo?!)

    11/23/09, 16:30:pm

    The daughter expresses her belief that she has disappointed her mother, and the mother says to her that she only has hope for her and that she “sees” who she is as a person.
    _________________________________________________Yeah I know exactly which one. THiat is the mother who smokes like a chimmney and the husband makes her daughter split the groceries even ice cream that she hates.

    Yeah for CHICK FLICKS!!

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:32:pm

    @I HATE the N WORD

    Ok, well I wrote that at like 9 this morning, so I apologize for forgetting about it, but that was more a response to the original post in the thread about a poor black woman who is lazy and abusive. I was aligning it with a poor white woman who is lazy and abusive living in a trailor park as opposed to the concrete jungles. I understand fully that abuse happens everywhere…so when uppity black folks start complaining about a rich black family that abuses their children, I’ll kindly refer them to the movie ‘Flowers in the Attic’….that’s all…

    JB(ACC basketball, SEC basketball! Who gonna check us Boo?!)

    11/23/09, 16:32:pm

    “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape”
    __________________________
    Cl*****ic!

    ______________________________________

    No Friday Night Lights is a CLa$$ic.
    “Boobie don’t know nothing but football!”

    Miss B

    11/23/09, 16:32:pm

    Hey Ladies again…

    Mystic River is very good.

    Primal Fear is very good.

    Eye for an Eye is good.

    JB(ACC basketball, SEC basketball! Who gonna check us Boo?!)

    11/23/09, 16:32:pm

    Ok yall I’m out.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:32:pm

    I remember when gang violence got bad in my school as a youngster. The district bought everyone copies of the “Buttercream Gang”

    Am I the only person that has seen this?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:33:pm

    @JB

    “THiat is the mother who smokes like a chimmney and the husband makes her daughter split the groceries even ice cream that she hates.”

    It was another one of the three mothers, but that was another scene that was a tearjerker. When she wanted to give her daughter strength to leave her husband. She was the mother who had accidentally drowned her baby when she was a much younger woman married to a man in China.

    The book was wonderful as well. Amy Tan is a very gifted author.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:33:pm

    @PNK- here goes its lovelye30 (@) yahoo.com my fake one LOL. I just created this account.

    Miss B

    11/23/09, 16:33:pm

    And The Client is sooo goooood

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:33:pm

    Bg(~007~)

    I like Lifetime movies too y’all!!!!!! lol
    __________________________________________
    I wish the cable company would remove this station from my subscription, I would actually pay them for it
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Lol, you are a mess! you could just not watch it. lol. But, on the real, don’t you wish you could trade channels that you don’t want for ones that you do? Whatever company offers that 1st, I’m rollin with till the WHEELS fall off! lol

    rhoda

    11/23/09, 16:35:pm

    Why hide the truth. There are so many issues amongst the human race not just one, so why is Precious a problem? I know many women who were abused by family members and people in the community, but instead of people trying to address the issue we always want to sweep it under a rug. It is what it is.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:35:pm

    Lol, you are a mess! you could just not watch it. lol. But, on the real, don’t you wish you could trade channels that you don’t want for ones that you do? Whatever company offers that 1st, I’m rollin with till the WHEELS fall off! lol
    _______________________________________
    *calling Comcast r.a.t. now with this stolen idea*

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:36:pm

    @PNK- Try to email before its time for you to leave to see if it works send a tester email.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:37:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- here goes its lovelye30 (@) yahoo.com my fake one LOL. I just created this account.
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    lol, sent! Enjoy! :D

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:37:pm

    @PNK- Girl I got it will reply back so you can have my real email.

    Old School

    11/23/09, 16:38:pm

    @ Carmel Cat- You probably won’t hear about a “Flowers in the Attic” situation with uppity black folks because they are going to pay all kinds of money to sweep it under the rug.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:39:pm

    Ms.EJ

    @PNK- Girl I got it will reply back so you can have my real email.
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    cool. lol. & you can e-mail me @ that one. That’s my work e-mail. That’s the one I can use while I’m here. But, I can send you my personal one too, if you like.

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:39:pm

    Pynk,
    I can seriously watch LMN all day with tissues and popcorn….just be all emotional…lol

    Truth

    11/23/09, 16:39:pm

    Oh brother, it’s an effing HUMAN issues movie. The charcters are black. That’s it. Simple.
    The real focus here is the abuse of young women – period. For the love of God a 5-yr old girl was just killed. At this stage in the game a movie is not doing the damage.
    We have coon-a*s rappers (yes Weezy you) spreading their seeds all over the place all reckless and not being a TRUE right-standing father figure to any, spreading poison in their music. We have astronomical high-school dropout rates, unemployment and under-employment of young black and talented college-educated people. We still live in a legal system that works against us more than for us.

    Racism is EVERYDAY and we live in it. A movie should be the last thing to make us wanna holler.

    Opie Cunningham

    11/23/09, 16:40:pm

    My only concern is that when it comes to Colour in the book n=both Mariah Carey’s and Paula Patton’s chracters are plain ‘dark skinned’ women and Lenny Kravitz’s character was a small jamaician woman

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:40:pm

    @PNK-LOL- I just got it and sent you an email from my real account. Girl, it was a little struggle, but worth it from getting information in the wrong hands.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:41:pm

    @Old School

    I know right???? I’m just sayin’ though…this stuff does happen in EVERY race…

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:41:pm

    Pynk,
    I can seriously watch LMN all day with tissues and popcorn….just be all emotional…lol
    _______________________
    BOOOOO!!!!

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:42:pm

    @PNK- Yes, when you get the chance send me your personal so we can keep in touch.

    Ms.EJ

    11/23/09, 16:44:pm

    Welp, I’m out everyone enjoy the rest of this day :D

    @PNK- Will hit you up ;)

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:44:pm

    Bg(~007~)
    BOOOOO!!!!

    Shush…you know you would sit and watch it with me…it’s ok I’ll share my tissues with you too.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:44:pm

    @PNK- Yes, when you get the chance send me your personal so we can keep in touch.
    ________________________________
    AWWWW…so sweet

    On the real...

    11/23/09, 16:46:pm

    That was the most depressing ***** that I’ve ever seen. I don’t need to see that again…nah. :(

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:46:pm

    Bg(~007~)
    BOOOOO!!!!

    Shush…you know you would sit and watch it with me…it’s ok I’ll share my tissues with you too.
    ___________________________________
    I would prolly need em after I make myself cry, crackin jokes!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 16:47:pm

    @BG

    What movie has brought a tear to your eye? Pierced your soul? Your heart?

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:47:pm

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    Pynk,
    I can seriously watch LMN all day with tissues and popcorn….just be all emotional…lol
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    I know!!!! My favorite movie for some reason is Dangerous Child. The one w/ Delta Burke & Ryan Merriman. lol

    s

    11/23/09, 16:48:pm

    I hated this movie to its core. The only thing that I understood about it was she hated being black and wanted to be white. A movie like this only helps white people think they are and still the only superior people. They made us look like we day dream all day, wont to be white and our mothers beat us. It did not give this girl one good day in her life unless she was with the white guy. Pain Pain Pain. We need more movies about hope and happiness not this I hate my life or color crap. Oprah and Tyler love pain in movies and I feel that’s all they seen..But that’s not what makes all movies . Last evening I was watching (Finding Forrester he had problems and was able to get p***** it and overcome it . Why was this movie made

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:48:pm

    Bg(~007~)
    I would prolly need em after I make myself cry, crackin jokes!

    Yeh cracking jokes on yourself for being more sensitive than you thought you were

    G Rockz Well

    11/23/09, 16:49:pm

    Jesus people, it’s a TRUE STORY that needs to be told. Unfortunately, this stuff happens in all communities not just the black communities. The problem with the black community is they refuse to talk about situations that effect our families, AIDS, child abuse, molestation, etc. If there is no communication how can we prevent things like this from happening. We’re freaking SAD!

    dnice1979

    11/23/09, 16:50:pm

    i seen the movie and was offended by the depth of vulgarity in the flick. it was not about race whatsoever. the actions seemed to be a bit “glorified” because they kept revisiting these actions. movie left me felling exhausted and nauseated because of the actions in the flick. the only part that upsets me is the casting. why pick the big girl to do the part? i think they picked her because the audience would feel more sympathy for her because of the way she looks. j. hudson could’ve done a great job in this flick. monique did her thang. i hated her after this flick and that’s what good actors/actresses do, make you believe. i give the flick a c- overall though. don’t take your young unless you’re prepared to explain the actions of these sickos in this flick.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:51:pm

    @BG

    What movie has brought a tear to your eye? Pierced your soul? Your heart?
    _____________________________________________
    Flowers in the Attic (good novel too)
    Paid in Full (The betryal was heartbreaking)
    Coming to America (beautiful love story)
    We were Soldiers (very good war movie)
    Rosewood
    Mississippi Burning (makes me wanna hurt folk)
    Last but not least
    Debbie Does Dallas LOL

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:53:pm

    Delta Burke
    Watched alot of Designing women with my granny…God rest her sweet soul! She also made me a lifetime fan of “The Price is Right”

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:54:pm

    @bg

    Dead @ Debbie Does Dallas!

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:55:pm

    The story of Precious is alive and living amongst us, however when we are viewed under a microscope by the others her story now becomes common place instead of anomaly because her story reinforces what we are subconsciously and consciously told every day about ourselves (poor black stupid, obese, welfare recipient dark, unattractive, and my favorite “the unknown other” etc.) It’s not about the abuse so much as the negative characterization of ourselves that has been casted on us by others and readily perpetuated by us even though we know better.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 16:55:pm

    @bg

    My late great-grandmother watched ‘The Price is Right’ every single day!…gosh I miss her…

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:55:pm

    Yeh cracking jokes on yourself for being more sensitive than you thought you were
    __________________________________________
    *googling “sensitive”*

    pynk

    11/23/09, 16:56:pm

    Ms.EJ

    Welp, I’m out everyone enjoy the rest of this day

    @PNK- Will hit you up

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    okely dokely! Later!

    Gimmeabreak 78

    11/23/09, 16:56:pm

    @dnice1979

    don’t take your young unless you’re prepared to explain the actions of these sickos in this flick
    ____________________________________________________

    Why would anyone even CONSIDER taking child to an R rated movie?

    Also, they picked a big girl because the character in the book the movie was made about was an obese woman and her obesity was an idea central to the story. I thought those would be simple dots to connect.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 16:57:pm

    @bg

    My late great-grandmother watched ‘The Price is Right’ every single day!…gosh I miss her…
    _______________________________________________
    Our lives revolved around “Plinko” and we went nuts when someone had a chance to win a car

    Lady Architect (Wreckless Love)

    11/23/09, 16:57:pm

    Bg(~007~)
    *googling “sensitive”*

    Golisten to some music…you will find the definition*

    MiamiChick

    11/23/09, 16:57:pm

    This is why exactly why Black movies rarely make it to the big screen…because a certain group of black people are going to find something to gripe about! Damned if you do…damned if you don’t.

    Why in the hell should Hollywood jews finance or distribute black movies, when black people are going to sabotage its success????

    The fact of the matter is, the movie is based on a true story, a story that many young women of all races can relate to, unfortunately. And it should be shown…this movie has already saved lives, opened up relatives eyes, as well as let victims know that they’re aren’t the only one going through this and that they can get help.

    The not degrading, that’s empowering.

    Do you see white people complaining about the “depiction of the white community” every time a movie with an uncomfortable theme is at the movies? Hell no.

    Black people (particularly the bougie ones) always have a problem with movies like this. They’d rather keep all the skeletons in the closet and act as if the black community is nothing but a gospel choir singing on Sundays. These MFs don’t really care about the black community, they just care about their image around “non-blacks.” If they cared they wouldn’t be b***chin about Precious theme, instead they’d be volunteering at a foster home or battered families shelter.

    FYI… I volunteer as guardian ad-litem in Miami, which means I befriend and go to court on behalf of children who are abused, in foster care, basically the “forgotten”. Everyday 8 new cases of sexual child abuse are reported in Miami. I mentor at-risk girls too.

    Instead of being ashamed and uncomfortable with Precious, go out and be there for a kid who’s possibly enduring what Precious went through.

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:57:pm

    Bossip you SUCK my POINT is to UPLIFT YOUR POINT IS TO RESTRAIN UNLESS ITS YOUR BY-LINE, IM OUT!

    I HATE the N WORD

    11/23/09, 16:58:pm

    Now how did Miami Chick get to write all the bs, no offense chick.

    pynk

    11/23/09, 17:02:pm

    Bg(~007~)

    @PNK- Yes, when you get the chance send me your personal so we can keep in touch.
    ________________________________
    AWWWW…so sweet
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    lol, you are too much Bg.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Well, everyone have a great evening. I’m outta here! Later! :D

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:02:pm

    @bg

    Our favs were the showcase showdowns…I always got excited when someone’s showcase had like a trip and a car all combined…the other person would have something crappy like a toy train or a pin ball machine…lmao!

    Nova

    11/23/09, 17:02:pm

    I’m convinced that Bossip is ran by either a self-hating black person (and by black I mean any type of black), or someone non-black who is just a downlow racist.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:04:pm

    @bg

    Our favs were the showcase showdowns…I always got excited when someone’s showcase had like a trip and a car all combined…the other person would have something crappy like a toy train or a pin ball machine…lmao!
    _______________________________________
    LMAO!!!! And it was the “best” when someone would win both showcases. I loved that

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:05:pm

    @bg

    LMAO!!!! And it was the “best” when someone would win both showcases. I loved that
    ~~~~

    I did too! I would be extremely happy for them…

    trs

    11/23/09, 17:05:pm

    Our lives revolved around “Plinko” and we went nuts when someone had a chance to win a car
    ———————————————

    Too cute BG!!!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:06:pm

    @ TRS
    Yeah I spent alot of time with my granny growing up

    GG

    11/23/09, 17:07:pm

    I does have a new age Color Purple feel about it… but I wasn’t offended by it. To me, it represents one family’s struggle and doesn’t put out a bad representation about African Americans. Not all families go through extreme situations that Precious went through. If anything, this movie reminds me and I’m sure others to appreciate the family we have.

    Ann

    11/23/09, 17:08:pm

    The answer to the question. YES. That movie is an abomination. We are falling for yet another movie telling us who we are. I’m sick of the argrument that the movie is about abuse. Well then set it in Germany around some Germans. Not Harlem around “poor ignorant” Black people. I can’t wait for this garbage to leave the theaters.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 17:09:pm

    @BG

    Aw, that’s so sweet!

    I liked Designing Women, too, but not as much as Golden Girls. I actually shed a tear when Bea Arthur p-a-s-s-e-d. I loved the character of Dorothy.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:11:pm

    @Sydney

    I STILL get excited when there’s a Golden Girls marathon on…that show was absolutely hilarious…

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:12:pm

    @ SYD
    I didnt appreciate the comic genius of Golden Girls till I was older.

    Hey do you remember ALF? I saw a hairy azz white guy that looked just like Alf today. I almost cried

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:15:pm

    Speaking of old sitcoms, who remembers ‘Out of This World’?

    **would you like to swing on a star…whoa oh oh…carry moonbeams home in a jar…whoa oh oh…**

    calypsokid

    11/23/09, 17:16:pm

    oh my gosh can we just enjoy the freaking movie?? If she likes fried chicken, then she likes fried chicken! Its inspiring so cut all the nonsense out.

    gemini62065

    11/23/09, 17:18:pm

    I think that we should realize that our culture has more than one message to send …one movie does not tell the story of an entire race.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:18:pm

    Speaking of old sitcoms, who remembers ‘Out of This World’?
    ____________________________________
    Doesnt ring a bell…. I do remember “Silver Spoons”

    Tracey

    11/23/09, 17:20:pm

    I am happy fpor black movies, I just want an aspiring, positive,triumpant, happy music!

    Misery like company, and I am not partner to that rubbish.

    A killer wnts agressive material, a down and out person most proably would welcome depressed stuff, a happy person like me wants to see HAPPINESS!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 17:20:pm

    @BG

    Of course, I remember Alf! lol

    @Caramel

    Out of This World? That’s not the same as “Boy Meets World,” right?

    I LOVED the series “The Wonder Years.”

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:20:pm

    @bg

    Yeah, I loved Silver Spoons

    Out of this World was about a teenage girl who’s dad was an alien and her mom was this zany chick…it was geared towards a young audience but I was a kid back then so I liked it…Remember ‘My Two Dads’? I liked that one too…

    frost

    11/23/09, 17:21:pm

    This film will receive multiple Academy Award nominations and be hailed as a great film. The Great Debaters, a truly Academy Awards worthy film received not one nomination. Why? Because white people celebrate black dysfunction……and so do black people!

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:22:pm

    @Sydney

    The Wonder Years was a great show…remember the spinoff to Golden Girls called Empty Nest? I liked that one too…

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 17:22:pm

    “Silver Spoons!”

    “My Two Dads!”

    What about “Blossom?”

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:23:pm

    I miss 227 and Amen!!!!

    And when the Andy Griffith Show came on you betta STFU! Cuz me and Granny was tuned in!

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:24:pm

    Never did like Blossom!

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 17:24:pm

    Oh, “My So-Called Life,” too, with Claire Danes.

    Caramel Cat

    11/23/09, 17:26:pm

    have a good night Sydney and bg…I’m out… :)

    GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK

    11/23/09, 17:27:pm

    WTF…It is about abuse, and let’s leave it at that.

    Bg(~007~)

    11/23/09, 17:27:pm

    Ok good people I’m out too. And don’t expect any of this Ralph Tresvant type of behavior outta me again! lol

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 17:27:pm

    I loved Empty Nest, too.

    BG, I loved 227 and Amen. My family watched those shows together.

    The return of Blaq

    11/23/09, 17:44:pm

    Is it less painful to behave and pretend such horrors don’t exist. It is time for black movies and audiences to be authentic not good or bad. The black audience only wants a realistic depiction of themselves, and collectively with the Madea’s, the Precious’, the Ice Cube comedies, C*****ie Lemon’s John Singleton’s and Spike Lee’s there is a candy box of idea’s and images. What message is the wrong message. Stop viewing us as though we all speak, live, and think with one mind.

    Lukie

    11/23/09, 17:44:pm

    Read the damn book and maybe some of you would stfu about what you THINK the movie portrays/represents.

    RIF

    aka

    READING IS F*CKINGFUNDAMENTAL!

    knowledge

    11/23/09, 17:49:pm

    This was a story that needed to be told. You think this movie isn’t portraying countless children’s (victims/survivors/real folk’s) stories? Think again. It speaks for those who cannot speak for themselves; child and emotional abuse is just as rampant in the black community as it is in any other [insert race here] community. Take your pick, but remember that you can’t pick and choose how you want black people to be depicted just because you don’t like what you see on the screen. And since when did being black mean giving up your individuality.

    If you’re dealing with abuse, please continue to be strong and seek help if at all possible. Peace

    Jay the Real One

    11/23/09, 17:51:pm

    How about we stop supporting these freak show movies. Black (performers and viewers) always make movies some epic statement.

    NYC Gal

    11/23/09, 17:54:pm

    I think this story needs to be told but I didn’t like the fact that the director chose to depict that the lighter skinned people were the heroes and were out to save the darker skinned people. The skin color should have been balanced. There should have been a darker hero to help Precious and there should have been a lighter skinned evil/mean person.

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 17:57:pm

    Ok here we go,

    The black community does not need this movie because;

    1.The sh*t is cheaply done.

    2.Yeah there are issues like this, but to have a person who looks like “precious, as fat as Precious, as ugly as precious and as dumb as precious” takes away from the bigger issue.

    3. Believe me, no man is getting horny behind a girl who looks like that.

    4. The movie would be more convincing with a normal attractive looking 16 year old.

    5. stealing and eating a whole bucket of chicken on her way to school, f*ckin’ ridiculous and not believable.

    6. Where did the grandmother live, and how come Precious just didnt go live with her? Her down syndrome baby lived there (another play on your emotions thats too unbeleivable)

    7. Lesbian teachers?

    8. How many times can that baby hit the floor?

    9. Momma throwing her “only” TV over the railing tryin’ to kill Precious, c’mon now!

    10. Anything Emmitt Perry is involved in will always be: a) cheaply done b) ridiculous storyline c) embarr*****ing to black people d) self-serving with a supposed moral that never quite gets there e) unbelievable endings

    So in closing people, no you dont need this movie, nothing in it was uplifting, there was no closure, Precious is still an ugly azz, dumb, multiple unmarried babymomma.

    Just another statistic in the black community, excuse me “the ghetto”

    And for you rabid Emmitt Perry fans, how come the boyfriend wasnt arrested or prosecuted for statutory rape? See ya’ll missed that point, one big azz hole in this Emmitt Perry production, same as all the others.

    love 6am

    NYC Gal

    11/23/09, 17:58:pm

    I kind of agree with what the Professor is saying. The director could have shown Precious eating something like ice cream, a whole pizza or McDonald’s but fried chicken? That’s up there with watermelon.

    Silver Foxx

    11/23/09, 18:02:pm

    I totally agree with Gemini620..!!!
    Simply put and to the point!

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:02:pm

    @ NYC GAL,

    Dont you know in every Emmitt Perry Sh*tfest the “lites” save the day? Darkies are only good enough to play the victim or criminal or sing in that church choir that appears out of no where for no reason whatsoever in every Emmitt Perry coonfest!

    Really?

    11/23/09, 18:05:pm

    Ok here we go,

    The black community does not need this movie because;

    1.The sh*t is cheaply done.

    2.Yeah there are issues like this, but to have a person who looks like “precious, as fat as Precious, as ugly as precious and as dumb as precious” takes away from the bigger issue.

    3. Believe me, no man is getting horny behind a girl who looks like that.

    4. The movie would be more convincing with a normal attractive looking 16 year old.

    5. stealing and eating a whole bucket of chicken on her way to school, f*ckin’ ridiculous and not believable.

    6. Where did the grandmother live, and how come Precious just didnt go live with her? Her down syndrome baby lived there (another play on your emotions thats too unbeleivable)

    7. Lesbian teachers?

    8. How many times can that baby hit the floor?

    9. Momma throwing her “only” TV over the railing tryin’ to kill Precious, c’mon now!

    10. Anything Emmitt Perry is involved in will always be: a) cheaply done b) ridiculous storyline c) embarr*****ing to black people d) self-serving with a supposed moral that never quite gets there e) unbelievable endings

    So in closing people, no you dont need this movie, nothing in it was uplifting, there was no closure, Precious is still an ugly azz, dumb, multiple unmarried babymomma.

    Just another statistic in the black community, excuse me “the ghetto”

    And for you rabid Emmitt Perry fans, how come the boyfriend wasnt arrested or prosecuted for statutory rape? See ya’ll missed that point, one big azz hole in this Emmitt Perry production, same as all the others.

    love 6am
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    REPOSTED FOR EMPHASIS

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:06:pm

    In closing “precious” isnt very good.

    NYC Gal

    11/23/09, 18:08:pm

    Its6amHoGetOut, You’ve waited all day for my opinion because I’m an Emmitt “Tyler” Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    @ NYC GAL,

    Dont you know in every Emmitt Perry Sh*tfest the “lites” save the day? Darkies are only good enough to play the victim or criminal or sing in that church choir that appears out of no where for no reason whatsoever in every Emmitt Perry coonfest!

    ======================================================

    Why are you calling TP Emmitt? I hope not after Emmett Till?

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:09:pm

    And to the person who said Emmitt Perry didnt get involved until after the film was already done, thats not true, Emmitt and Oprah are the initial backers. And Emmitt had full script approval.

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:11:pm

    @ NYC Gal

    Because his real name is “Emmitt R. Perry, Tyler is some made up sh*t.

    NYC Gal

    11/23/09, 18:12:pm

    Its6amHoGetOut, You’ve waited all day for my opinion because I’m an Emmitt “Tyler” Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    And to the person who said Emmitt Perry didnt get involved until after the film was already done, thats not true, Emmitt and Oprah are the initial backers. And Emmitt had full script approval.

    ====================================================
    Really? I thought TP came on after the movie did good at Sundance and he said he asked Oprah to back this movie with him.

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:13:pm

    Next question?

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:15:pm

    No NYC Gal,

    Everybody thinks that white lady put up $50 million, but no movie that coast $50 million is at sundance, $50 million is a major motion picture out the box!

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:16:pm

    I take that back, the finished movie was screened at sundance, Emmitt was involved from jump!

    BostonBitty

    11/23/09, 18:17:pm

    That is the problem with black people. We are living in denile. We are so worried about our “image” yet we don’t wan to face the truth about this image. Just get on a subway one day. Its n word this n word that. middle school girls pregnant, openly talking about sex. Boys trained to degrade their own women and be hostile thugs. C’mon this is real talk. Stop pretending black people. Sexual abuse is another huge problm we sweep under the rug along with obesity and black male hatred and abuse of black women. Continually drgrading/shunning brown and dark skin women (plus the pressures of the white media) gives little black girls low self esteem. Then these light skin girls feel pressure to live up to their status and ho it out to everyone. I *****ociate myself with as few black people as possible. Especially black males, as soon as you look in their direction their heads inflate like a hot air ballon. Black men are dangerous, self-centered, and self hating. Fix the black man and you fix the communiTY. What other group of people degrades and publicly denounces theri women like we do. We need to be lead by good black men not these clowns.

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:18:pm

    Damn when i come in with my opinions and try to set the record straight, *****f*ckas run outta here fast!

    NYC Gal

    11/23/09, 18:18:pm

    Its6amHoGetOut, You’ve waited all day for my opinion because I’m an Emmitt “Tyler” Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    @ NYC Gal

    Because his real name is “Emmitt R. Perry, Tyler is some made up sh*t.

    =====================================================
    Ain’t that straight out of Hollywood!! So Madea thought Tyler sounded better. SMDH! The brotha was gone a loooong time ago.

    Camilla

    11/23/09, 18:24:pm

    I have not and will not go to see this movie. It’s bad enough that you don’t see enough black movies as it is. Then to see such negative stereotypes with African Americans, really bothers me. It gives a constant negative image of the African American family. For goodness sakes, every movie (beside Tyler Perry movies) that you see all have black men swirled up with non-black women all the time. Hollywood act like they can’t even show a positive black family these days! Case in point, “No” I will not support this film – enough already!!!

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:24:pm

    @ Boston Bitty,

    You tried to have some good points but you have so many misspelled words it was hard to see them. first stop blaming black males, if girls didnt act like “hoes” they woudnt be constantly berated with negative words like “b*tch, Ho, C*nt, etc….

    Ive been on the mainland at a hood mall and Ive seen and heard this actual conversation from a bunch of 12 year olds:

    That n*gga aint sh*t, he cant even f*ck!

    I was sUckin’ his D*ck and the ***** took too long to c*u*m,

    12 year olds!

    Its6amHoGetOut, You've waited all day for my opinion because I'm an Emmitt "Tyler" Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    11/23/09, 18:26:pm

    brb yall

    Riiiiiggghhhtt...

    11/23/09, 18:34:pm

    best believe i won’t be seeing this s–t. i can walk outside and see examples of what’s depicted in this movie on the corner versus paying $10-12 to see it for 2 hours straight. and this does not depict my reality and nor that of the black folks i know. what happened to the days of best man, the brothers, brown sugar, etc…black films that didn’t just represent the darkest parts of our culture, but depicted the best of what we have to offer too. oprah and tyler perry can kick rocks for this mess.

    tj

    11/23/09, 18:56:pm

    None of this is new. Richard Wright and Nora Neal Hurston were beefing over the representation issue back in the 20’s. Notice its always a male begrudging a female authors story. When did Saphire say this reps all of black America? I missed that. I dont see this man attacking the litany of white films with paternalistic intentions and depictions. The most offensive thing at the movies this week was that Sandra Bullock crap but he dare not attack a white woman.

    wake up dummy

    11/23/09, 19:04:pm

    KeepNit2Real

    Angee

    Abuse happens in all races!!

    This movie is not about Black people!! This movie is about abuse. This movie puts it right in your face. The young lady suffered all kinds of abuse; physical, sexual, emotional and verbal. This movie was about her overcoming a tragic childhood! Does it have a happy ending where you walk away feeling like you are walking on Sunshine? No it does not! For anybody that has gone through this, this movie will mean a lot!!
    ________________________________________

    Angee…Angee…Angee…my poor mislead child. Do you know this movie was financed by a white couple who put up as much as 12 million dollars to get this movie done?

    Do you know who hooped and hollered in the aisles when the final credits started rolling?

    Do you know what academy is considering giving this movie and it’s actors/actresses accolades when the next Academy Awards role around?

    All WHITES! Not Blacks, not Latin folk, not Asians…

    Whites!

    Now let’s bring this into perspective.

    Blacks always want a champion of the battered, abused, slavery lifestyle
    that many claim to suffer from…blah, blah, blah…

    When in reality all Blacks want is to wallow in sorrow for things that have never happened to them. And let me tell you from one abuse victim to the movie…

    When someone has gone through abuse, they NEVER want to see what has happened to them on the big screen! That’s like saying you love to watch gang movies seeing Shorty Black’s lil brother get shot because he was short $5 on the crack deal and you can identify with that. Does it make it wonderful to see him get shot knowing it happened to your little brother? If it does, you are a disturbed individual…

    as would ANYONE who can identify with a movie character when movies are an imitation of REAL LIFE! Not the other way around! And that’s what’s wrong with society. If you put a star’s face behind an event that brings NO happiness to someone in real life, you still run to see it just to have that glow inside and it hasn’t benefited one abuse victim on the real streets.

    Who is this movie honestly going to help? huh? Girls in the Bronx? Maybe the southside of Chicago? Maybe Southeast D.C.? Better yet you think girls in Compton are going to appreciate this movie when it’s THEM experiencing this trauma?

    The answer to all the above is no!

    Abuse is NOTHING that should be glamorized in movies but it is. And I speak, ONCE AGAIN from the viewpoint of an abuse victim…certain things in life you just want to put behind you and move on…never wanting to relive it through some actor or actress who has never even gone through that experience.

    It is not going to help anyone to see this movie. The real help comes in real life, not spending money on this film to see what really happens all the time.

    ^^

    Thank you keeping it real, and you would have to be blind ( as so many of us are ) to not see that this IS about race.

    LaLa

    11/23/09, 19:09:pm

    I applaud all of the positive comments that have been posted here. Why is everybody screaming about a positive image of black people and saying that T. Perry can kick rocks? He put out a TV show that depicts black professionals in strong families, but y’all won’t go see that either. He has made so many movies in the last few years with very positive images of black people, but so many of you all are out there criticizing him and wondering about his sexual orientation that you can’t see he’s trying to do it for us. I’m not a fan of the slapstick Madea humor, but if you look at the real point of his movies, you will see some of us all. The professional, the hard working mom, the single parent, the strong grandparents, etc.

    My main gripe is that black people always say something makes us look bad. Stop owning everything! Abuse happens to every demographic, so we need to learn empathy. That’s what they are trying to teach. You do not see white people taking a stand about the show Intervention where there are tons of white meth-heads, *****e heads, etc. Look inside yourself and see that we all have struggles, every race, everyone. We need to stop worrying so much about the superficial and start getting to know one another and help each other. Geez…wake up and grow up!

    olsweet*****willie (WHO GONNA CHECK ME BOO?)

    11/23/09, 19:10:pm

    Its6amHoGetOut, You’ve waited all day for my opinion because I’m an Emmitt “Tyler” Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!
    —————————————————
    Child BOO!!!!

    White Women Rule

    11/23/09, 19:15:pm

    Oh boo-hoo!!!! Why do you complain about stories that are told about blacks? Only you think that the world at large will translate this film into every black household. Whites make abuse fims too, is this the way you view whites? My goodness darling, please take off the sensitivity blanket! This is the very same reason dear that the Color Purple received “0″ Academy Awards. Blacks complained and Hollywood responded. For the love of God, shut up for a change and let a movie just be a movie! Now I’m all flustered over a topic as silly as snow shoes in July.

    cant_even_lie_right

    11/23/09, 19:16:pm

    Its6amHoGetOut, You’ve waited all day for my opinion because I’m an Emmitt “Tyler” Perry specialist. So get ready for constructive genius people!

    @ Boston Bitty,

    You tried to have some good points but you have so many misspelled words it was hard to see them. first stop blaming black males, if girls didnt act like “hoes” they woudnt be constantly berated with negative words like “b*tch, Ho, C*nt, etc….

    Ive been on the mainland at a hood mall and Ive seen and heard this actual conversation from a bunch of 12 year olds:

    That n*gga aint sh*t, he cant even f*ck!

    I was sUckin’ his D*ck and the ***** took too long to c*u*m,

    12 year olds!

    ^^
    Umm Yeah right you didnt hear any 12 year old girls talking that way in public..and how did you know they were 12..exactly, STFU with your made up stories.

    angelface

    11/23/09, 19:16:pm

    When you look at the movie with an open mind you cannot help but see that it’s a message to all mankind. We all have struggles, but you “push” through them and help another along the way.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am not a big fan of the Madea line, but I truly appreciate what Tyler did putting this out there for all mankind, not just the black community.

    Wake up people, stop fighting one another.

    dont be wetrarded

    11/23/09, 19:21:pm

    why do black people come on here and create screen names such as white women rule, effing negros, I am white,white girl speaking etc., etc…We know your dumb ***** is black.. You all are extra crazy on here.LMAO!!

    tyler perry did not make this movie

    11/23/09, 19:23:pm

    for the last time.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 19:32:pm

    @6am

    “I take that back, the finished movie was screened at sundance, Emmitt was involved from jump!”

    Where are you obtaining your information from?

    From the NY Times magazine article on Daniels, nytimes.com:

    Eventually, Daniels found independent financing. “Lee is brilliant at finding investors,” Mirren said. “On ‘Shadowboxer,’ he found this rich man in Philadelphia who paid for the movie, God bless him.” For “Precious,” Daniels raised the initial $8 million (the budget eventually grew to about $10 million) from Sarah Siegel-Magness and Gary Magness, who live in Denver. Both are successful entrepreneurs and have family money — her parents founded Celestial Seasonings, and his father started the cable giant TCI — and had worked with Daniels before. They agreed that “Precious” was worth the risk. “At the end of the day, I’m a promoter,” Daniels said now. “But I also let the work speak for itself.”

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 19:35:pm

    More from the NY Times magazine article, nytimes.com/2009/10/25/magazine/25precious-t.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=the%20audacity%20of%20precious&st=cse

    WHEN DANIELS WAS getting up to accept the Audience Award at the Sundance Film Festival in January, his cellphone rang, and it was Oprah Winfrey. She was calling to tell him that she had seen “Precious,” that the movie “split her open” and that she wanted to put her might behind the film. “I said, ‘I’m accepting an award right now,’ ” Daniels recalled. “She said, ‘Then why are you answering your phone?’ ”

    After winning three awards, “Precious” was finally bought by a distributor. “I had shown the movie in L.A. to my manager, and he didn’t respond positively,” Daniels said. “My manager, who is white, said, ‘I’m sorry, but I don’t think anybody is going to see this movie.’ That man is no longer my manager.”

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 19:37:pm

    More:

    Winfrey’s involvement with “Precious” was encouraged by Tyler Perry, perhaps the most successful African-American in the movie business, who joined her as an executive producer. The subject matter of the film resonated with both of them: Winfrey has spoken often about the sexual abuse she suffered as a young girl, and earlier this month, Perry described being mercilessly beaten by his father. With two of the biggest forces in black entertainment involved, Lionsgate bought “Precious” for $5.5 million.

    Kenny

    11/23/09, 19:48:pm

    I wish we had more diverse movies then we make, im sick of the same ole same ole.

    Kenny

    11/23/09, 19:50:pm

    Tyler and Oprah does not move me….

    ch

    11/23/09, 19:50:pm

    I can understand why people are upset by this movie.It’s raw,unflinching and disturbing.That’s why it’s so powerful.It portrays ugly,unspeakable things that happen in the lives of real women/girls.Precious is not a caricature-she’s a human being and it’s inspiring to see her attitude of hope and survival when she could easily just be a victim.This is one of the best films ever made because it forces some of us to start dealing with things we don’t want to look at and find a way forward.Abuse is often covered by shame and silence and this film speaks for so many who have no voice.

    BoredbMe

    11/23/09, 20:18:pm

    i agree with ch

    B

    11/23/09, 20:18:pm

    I don’t need to see that movie. And I don’t want to see that ugly fat b**** either. I’d rather stay home and watch internet *****.

    B

    11/23/09, 20:21:pm

    I don’t need a movie to make me do s***. Hollywood trying to be the voice or morality? SMH!
    That main chick is butt a** ugly.She reminds me of mammy from gone with the wind. They just had to find the fattest, ugliest b**** they could to test our tolerance. After seeing her I’m going to find as many white woman to f*** to clear my head.

    mitchelldizzle

    11/23/09, 20:26:pm

    The #1 thing that disturbed me about this movie:

    The only people who helped Precious in the movie were light-skinned, white, saint-like. Everyone who hurt her was dark skinned ,greasy, and menacing. Coincidence?

    Wake up people! The same guy who produced “Monster’s Ball” was the same guy who directed “Precious”

    The same themes run through both movies. Black People’s Dependence on Whites to rescue them from their personal hell.

    I cringe when I think of Halle Berry’s character brutally beating her overweight dark skinned son in that movie and her begging Billy Bob Thorton’s character to “Make her feel good”

    This movie is clearly filmed through a white man’s perspective with no respect for the characters in the book.

    Mock Rock Star

    11/23/09, 20:27:pm

    resurrected

    Haven’t seen it yet but will and I do not think that Tyler Perry has created damage for the black community the black community creates it own damage and still people won’t chnage from there wicked and destructive ways as we speak…

    IS Tyler Perry on her calling all black woman B***t and H**s no… Is Tyler Perry letting there minds be conformed to black sterotypes no that would be us again… Is Tyler Perry making babies and leaving them in unhealthy situations no that is us again… We created so we are the ones who have to change it and it first starts with us.
    _________________________________________
    Tell it like it is!!! I swear n*ggas love to be against the right thing like putting these problems on blast and for the wrong dumb sh*t like saying Jay-Z, Drake and Lil Wayne are the best rappers because they are so positive.

    lisalisa

    11/23/09, 20:30:pm

    r u people serious??? As a child protective services worker, this DOES NOT only take place in black homes and in the black community…Are u people that naieve to think it does…Majority of my abuse cases are white families with the same issues as in the movie prescious.

    KLOVE

    11/23/09, 20:31:pm

    I needed some major counseling after I saw this movie. I went into shock. When “precious” said, I wish I was light-skinned, skinny with long hair, I was having flashbacks of being bullied in 3rd grade.

    Chocolate

    11/23/09, 20:34:pm

    BostonBitty – There is a website called Stormfront that would really welcome your hatred of black men. The problems facing our community are complex and many.One thing I know for certain is that fingerpointing and the blame game will not solve anything. There is plenty of blame to go around but can you and so many other people spend a bit of time focusing on solutions to our problems rather than proclaiming to the world the utter wothlessness of black men? Anger and bitterness may feel good in the short term but they solve ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

    Mister

    11/23/09, 20:36:pm

    This movie opened nationwide this weekend but the same women who go see buffonery anytime “Soulplane”, “The Browns”, “Madea” any any other form of mindless black comedy, all of a sudden can’t find the time for “Precious”. Every tale is not a happy ending. Black women fuel a lot of the entertainment dollars and it’s starting to show by the type of films that are targeted to the basicallly sambo, hate serious film, black “christian” female audience.

    Turkessa G.

    11/23/09, 20:37:pm

    I wish I could agree with everyone saying this isn’t true life in the black community, but I’d be lying if I did. I work in a social services agency and see cases like Precious all the time. Mothers selling their daughters or kicking them out on the street becuz their boyfriends (the mothers) are going at them as soon as they hit puberty. The mothers aren’t protective, just jealous. Mothers dropping their babies at the free daycare at 4 am when the doors don’t open until 6 so they can go out and find a man. Letting their sons go at their sisters cuz thats what men do. Why are we denying what we know goes on? Let’s try and fix it, instead of worrying about how we’re being judged.

    Frost

    11/23/09, 20:44:pm

    Mitchelldizzle – Thank you! The casting of this film was no accident. Three bi-racial actors were cast to play the saviors to the horribly abused dark skinned girl.In a book where the darkness of her skin was the cause of enormous emotional suffering, this was very telling.

    Willow

    11/23/09, 20:57:pm

    Abuse unfortunately is universal, it does not matter what race or economic status you are in its prevalent in our society. The author, Sapphire has stated that the characters in her book are patterned after different individuals she has met. There have been movies with an all white cast that tackled the same issues without all of this debate. When it comes to uncomfortable issues like this, we as African-Americans chose to ignore it and sweep it under a rug like it does not exist. By the way on a positive note this movie might receive and win an Acadmey Award for Best Actress for Gabby Sibide, Best Supporting Actress for Mo’Nique, nominations for Best Supporting Actress for Paula Patton and/or Mariah Carey, Best Director for Lee Daniels, Best Film and Best Adapted Screenplay. I am excited about this and will watch the Academy Awards if they receive all of these nominations and actually win. This will be history in the making to have all of these African-Americans nominated with a good chance of winning.

    makes no damn sense..

    11/23/09, 21:10:pm

    @BOSSIP
    how do you expect us to “discuss” and you won’t post some of our comments! BOSSIP sucks big time. I’m OUT!!!

    MISS.SITTIN.PRETTY

    11/23/09, 21:10:pm

    @ romello

    You must not get around and meet new people too often, I’ve met 2 people who were not black who have the name Precious! Real Talk! So for someone who seems to talk like their wise and know alot like urself, get out a little more, see the world and you might be surprised. I don’t know if ur black or not, and it really doesn’t matter either, you just sound silly boo! For you to say Precious is a “BLACK NAME” is very ignorant.

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 21:15:pm

    Ok Im back and I se I have some doubters about my knowledge. So let me address each question in order.

    @ Cant even lie right,

    What are you a f*ckin’ idiot? This conversation I overheard while vacationing in Los Angeles in 2008, we were at a mall called Fox Hills (hood mall) these little girls actually looked younger than 12 but what I typed is exactly what they said, Ive posted it on Bossip before dummy. And you’d be a fool to think these lil fast azz girls aint talkin’ and doin’ all this sh*t.

    @ Sydney,

    What did I tell you about always looking at the bigger picture huh? Im shocked that Im gonna have to explain this to you but here goes.

    a. Relatively unknown director raises $8 then an Additional $4 million to make this movie, most people at sundance let you know right off how they got their funding.

    b. Where do you think that extra $4 million came from? Emmitt Perry

    c. Answering a call when youre about to get an award on stage? That sh*t was planned for more publicity (Oprah calling all of a sudden, how’d she get his personal cellphone number, Emmitt Perry!)

    D. Emmitt Perry’s distribution company Lionsgate all of a sudden shows up to buy the film as the highest bidder at $5.5 million when the movie cost $12 million? thats a helluva lose unless you were involved from the jump!

    E. Emmitt Perry, Lionsgate and that white woman financed this film, Oprah jumped on the bandwagon later and if youve seen the ending credits the first names that pop up are “Tyler Perry studios and Harpo Productions” then Executive Produced by Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

    F. Did you see Monique going to war with Lionsgate? Nope. Lee daniels? nope. That white woman? Nope. She went to war with the people who “paid” her for that role, Oprah and Emmitt! And as you know on a movie set youre paid every week just like a regular job, now if Emmitt and Oprah came along after that film was already done why was Monique beefin’ with people who never signed her paychecks?

    I told ya’ll, 6am is pure genius, not part-time, not on-call, 100% pure genius, never challenge me Im an engineer Im paid to dwelve deeper……

    love me, 6am resident genius.

    Sydney never get your sources from a newspaper luv.

    Sanjor

    11/23/09, 21:29:pm

    @6am, I’m really going to miss you after december.

    Tru

    11/23/09, 21:31:pm

    “Please note that comments and user names with excessive or inappropriate language are subject to filtering, moderation and deletion. Speak your mind, but try to keep comments clean.”

    G T F O H with that mess BOSSIP if you won’t even post people’s comments. check yourselves!

    DR.FUNK

    11/23/09, 21:40:pm

    @makes no damn sense..

    @BOSSIP
    how do you expect us to “discuss” and you won’t post some of our comments! BOSSIP sucks big time. I’m OUT!!!
    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    BOSSIP has come to discover-much to it’s dismay-that IT CANNOT FORCE IT’S OPINION ON IT’S BLACK READERS.That it IS NOT THE SOLE AUTHORITY ON THE MINDSET OF IT’S BLACK READERS.That it’s BLACK READERS HAVE A VARIETY OF OPINIONS THAT OFTEN MOCK THE OPINIONS of it’s writers.As such they PATHETICALLY hope that the censoring software will drive those who don’t tow the line away.It may work…& won’t this site be more the worse for it?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 21:41:pm

    @6am

    “Sydney never get your sources from a newspaper luv.”

    I worked for a newspaper, love.

    So your source of your post is your own personal conjecture. Am I following you correctly?

    Also, from your earlier post, it’s clear that you have a misunderstanding of the causes/factors that lead to abuse. It’s not based on a man getting “horny” off a girl’s outward appearance. That’s akin to saying that rape is about sex.

    In addition, I have my own issues with Tyler Perry, but I do find it hypocritical that you bring up the issue of skin color in the casting of his films when your comments on this blog have repeatedly reeked of colorism. I think you have more in common with Perry than you may wish to believe.

    Dr. Hayden Drake

    11/23/09, 21:45:pm

    WHY DO BLACK PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO CELEBRATE THE WORST THAT OUR PEOPLE HAVE TO OFFER?

    Of all the black movies
    the one depicting

    *ignorance
    *incest
    *rape
    *gluttony
    *abuse
    *teen age pregnancy
    *poor education
    *poverty

    is the one that is getting Oscar buzz.

    Think people

    Wintz

    11/23/09, 22:04:pm

    Its funny how people are getting mad that Mr. Perry is cleaning the dust from under the carpet… exposing the RAW TRUTH of the sad situations that some people struggle with in their every day lives.

    Cover the bad and capitalize on the good?? BOSSIP, wake up. Ignorance is NOT a solution.

    Never mind, We understand, u just had a DUMB moment… don’t be STUPID and repeat it though cause then we would have to question your intelligence.

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 22:19:pm

    @ Sanjor,

    Im gonna miss you too luv.

    CARMEN™

    11/23/09, 22:23:pm

    This movie was terrible. It was very stereotypical. I understand it can happen everywhere, but the light skin guy singin in the choir with the dog? Too gone..this movie was all over the place…I do not recommend

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 22:24:pm

    Now sydney, still doubting my genius huh?

    Sydney it doesnt take a brain surgeon to add 1 + 1
    Emmitt Perrys distribution company beats out bigger studios like fox, paramount and warners with a bid that cost less than 1/2 of what the movie cost to make? SYDNEY THERE WERE NO OTHER BIDDERS BECAUSE LIONSGATE AND EMMITT WERE INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING!

    And in the book, was Precious described as a morbidly obese, darkskin, stupid, ugly hoodrat? If she was then I’ll be quiet right now, if she wasnt its Emmitt Perrys bullsh*t in effect again.

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 22:27:pm

    @ carmen,

    welcome to the world of slim/regular size “progressive” black people luv! Can I give you a hug for not being stupid, for being able to see the bigger picture, for not being a follower of Emmitt Perry’s bullsh*t productions and just for being smart?

    Tanji

    11/23/09, 22:28:pm

    I AM BLACK AND I DON’T LIVE LIKE THE CHARACTERS in this film anybody who thinks this is the life story of all black peoplre are DAMM IDIOTS..This movie is also overrated hollywod praises wak ***** movies but I do feel bad for what happened to preciouis

    Tanji

    11/23/09, 22:29:pm

    DR HAYDEN we ddin’t ask for the film to be made so please HOLLYWOOD and the cast are praising the film shut the hell up

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 22:33:pm

    @6am

    “Now sydney, still doubting my genius huh?”

    LOL, I can appreciate the act (at least through the end of December), but I think you need to “delve,” not “dwelve,” deeper. Are you including the Harvey Weinstein lawsuit with your conjecture?

    And I haven’t read “Push,” but, yes, from my understanding, the character is obese, and her skin tone is incorporated into the theme of colorism. The theme of ingrained perceptions of skin tone were abundant throughout the film, I thought.

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 22:35:pm

    I dont know about ya’ll, but when i go to the movies I go to be entertained, for escapism and for the fantasy aspect of a film including the special effects.

    People who like and support Emmitt Perry’s coonfest productions can relate to that sh*t, I cant and to be honest with you I dont care too either.

    @ La La

    I just saw your post, What TV show has Emmitt Perry put on that depicts strong black professional families in a loving serious environment? You cant be so stupid that youre talking about the two “worst shows ever produced” House of Painfully stereotypical dumb blacks or Meet the Coons, does Emmitt have on other shows that we dont know about?

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 22:35:pm

    You called this actress a “gorilla” — How on earth is that “progressive?”

    More like Stepin Fetchit to me. . .

    Its6amHoGetOut, resident genius. Why challenge me when you know you're gonna lose?

    11/23/09, 22:36:pm

    Hugs for tanji!

    ms612

    11/23/09, 22:41:pm

    The movie was excellant. The fact that the comment is even up for discussion is an absolute joke! There is always a hater somewhere trying to steal someone’s shine! Whoever thinks that, needs to get a damn life!

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 22:54:pm

    Sydney,

    Put a Blonde doll in that girls hand, stand her next to a tall building and you can tell me she wasnt the model for King Kong 2005, she’s beyond f*ckin’ ugly!

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 22:57:pm

    whats worse than ugly? F*ckin’ hideous!

    Oh and Sydney do your homework love, theres a certain production company involved from the very beginning of the film, 3 of its members used to work for a certain film distributor company and now have a “first look ” production deal with that same company, I could do all the legwork and tell you the name of that company, but why? You research it, it only took me 5 minutes.

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 22:58:pm

    @6am

    @6am

    “Put a Blonde doll in that girls hand, stand her next to a tall building and you can tell me she wasnt the model for King Kong 2005, she’s beyond f*ckin’ ugly!”

    Is December here yet? lol

    Why don’t do the legwork, love? I provided you a link earlier. :)

    whitney

    11/23/09, 23:01:pm

    is rap music and negative blogs sending the wrong message about black people….wow its like all this isn’t enough why cant we be positive and uplift our people and not worry about the negative stuff….by harping on negative things we just give other races a chance to become stronger than us, but wasting negative energy on this stuff just ruins what positive stuff we could be doing….i am outraged at the neg stuff i see i know everyones entitled to there own opinion but when is time to actually use the power that we possess to uplift rather that do anything else !!! Please this is a challenge

    Hell Rell

    11/23/09, 23:02:pm

    You know what? I am really tired of these Black people who have become “something” and have completely alienated themselves from their history and roots that they actually forget that these people do exist and it makes me sick it doesnt matter what u say or what u think u are still going to be black, white people will have still strung your ancestors up from trees and left them there as strange fruit. one black person doesnt speak for all black people because you damn sure dont speak for me

    bhoughetto1

    11/23/09, 23:04:pm

    I hope that this movie has the effect of this type of abuse discontinuing. If it is happening in any ethnic group or culture to males or females it is horrid and the victim(s) and perpetrators need help immediately.

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 23:10:pm

    @ Whitney,

    According to Emmitt Perry its ok to make alot of money off these negative stereotypes without giving sh*t back to the community that supports him. Oh yeah why not prance out the worst of the black community every 6 months, make a joke about it, offer no solutions whatsoever, underpay your black production crew, put a church choir and reverend in the middle of the movie for no reason whatsoever then watch the stupid line up and pay $12 for a piece of sh*t worth $2.

    Oh yeah i dont want to forget, then go buy a multi-billionaire and her best friend two bentleys instead of starting a computer work center in a poor neighborhood for a fraction of the price of those two cars!

    Umm yeah we progressive blacks really need to make Emmitt Perry our rolemodel!

    White Women Rule

    11/23/09, 23:13:pm

    @dont be wetrarded

    Perhaps your medication has gotten the best of you. Are you suggesting that everyone on this site is black and should only be viewed by blacks? If that’s the case, then perhaps your medication isn’t strong enough because dear your level of absolute stupidity would be humorous if not so pathetic. I’m guessing your a day laborer with access to a computer? But brava for your “telling me”, you go girl!” There is that better?

    why do black people come on here and create screen names such as white women rule, effing negros, I am white,white girl speaking etc., etc…We know your dumb ***** is black.. You all are extra crazy on here.LMAO!!

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 23:17:pm

    Umm Sydney,

    Theres no scene in the book where Precious is described as very darkskin or where she steals a whole bucket of fried chicken and eats it all on her way to school! See dumb azz Emmitt Perry bullsh*t in effect people!

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 23:19:pm

    Im shocked madea didnt show up as her grandmother!

    Rena

    11/23/09, 23:20:pm

    Tonight was the first opportunity that I’ve had to go see the film. First, I have to tip my hat to each of the cast members, with the stand-outs being the character(s) of Precious and her mother. Both ladies deserve an oscar nomination. As harsh as this is to most of us who have not ever experiencd this time of life, it does (unfortunately) exist in mainstream America. Young women are abused, both verbally and sexually daily! This movie is one that can bring you to tears and even bring the most hard core person to genuine emotion. It covers all areas of society…abuse (in all forms)…rape…incest…survival…and the reality that as a people, we all need to see that HIV can wipe us out! I applaud everyone *****ociated with the film and hope that the Oscar committee will nominate the contenders.

    Elite

    11/23/09, 23:29:pm

    Black people need to quit, give me a break. this movie is not just about abuse in the african american community abuse happens in all races, so stop wearing your heart on your sleeve and being so anti black movies that speak to more than the african american community,this movie gives us an idea about how strong black people, women, and anyone who has ever been abused can be. to go through what this girl went through and still come out victorious is amazing. some people would have turned to drugs or killed themselves but this movie lets you know no matter what storm you may go through in life you can overcome. we need to stop playing the victims and realize that there is good and bad in all races and this movie is not an embarr*****ment to the race at all, how did you people come out of this movie with such negativity. i was sadden the pain this child had to endure but i rejoiced when she took her life into her own hands and decided to do better for her children than what was done for her. it amazes me that when white people play the role of white trailer trash as the are so often noted as in different communities that other white people do not write in with such shame and embarr*****ment, they embrace it because they realize what they are seeing is someones reality. i believe we are more embarr*****ed for our race than white people are and if we continue to look down on our writers and producers for putting real information out there we will never really get the respect we deserve

    Sydney™

    11/23/09, 23:39:pm

    6,

    Here’s a snippet from a Barnes and *****le description of the book and of the protagonis. If you want an excerpt, I’m sure there is one available.

    barnesand*****le.com/used/product.asp?ean=2699663145647

    “With this much anti*****ted first novel, told from the point of view of an illiterate, brutalized Harlem teenager, Sapphire (American Dreams), a writer affiliated with the Nuyorican poets, charts the psychic damage of the most ghettoized of inner-city inhabitants. Obese, dark-skinned, HIV-positive, bullied by her sexually abusive mother, Clareece, Precious Jones is, at the novel’s outset, pregnant for the second time with her father’s child.”

    I have to get up early tomorrow, so I’ll say good night.

    Its6amHoGetOut

    11/23/09, 23:46:pm

    @ Elite,

    Are you crazy, you cant see the stereotypical sh*t in those scenes?

    1. momma on welfare
    2. blacks and our supposed love of fried chicken, so much so we’d steal and eat a whole bucket before school. (not in the book at all)
    3. Liteskin blacks are better and have better lives.
    4. Precious loves math but doesnt open the book so shes been let back a few times.
    5. Ghetto azz friends.
    6. Poor beyond belief.
    7. Bunch of n*ggas on a stoop in the middle of the day without nothing to do.
    8. Morbidly obese, ugly girl (in the book it just says shes fat)
    9. Emmitt Perry staple- Church and a choir in the middle of a movie for no reason whatsoever!

    I could go on and on……….

    And tell me Elite, when is the last time you saw a movie with anything negative about j*ewish people? I have time I’ll wait for your answer.

    Lisa

    11/23/09, 23:58:pm

    I can’t believe all this uproar over movie that is based on a book that was written over 10 years ago!!

    Maybe Bossip should try to interview the author Sapphire.

    Mock Rock Star

    11/24/09, 00:00:am

    @6am
    When are you taking your psychopathic a$$ off of this sight because U are a poor excuse for a man…it says it in your scene name.
    @Everyone
    6am is the type of person who would f*ck his or your daughter

    Mock Rock Star

    11/24/09, 00:01:am

    *site* and *screen*

    abideintruth

    11/24/09, 00:21:am

    Be realistic!!! African Americans come from all sides of the track! Is it wrong because the film depicts the portrayal of a side in which we wish to be kept a secret? Unfortunately the negatives of life exists… For example, one of my students(special needs) was bright, but only when he watched your lips move. We thought he was partially deaf…Come to find out he and his siblings were left alone all the time while the mom striped at the club. His deafness was found to be dead roaches and their eggs. It happens… My granduncles sat every day underneath what we called the unemployment tree. Unfortunate, but a reality. One of the positives in this is that the film is directed by a black man. People will not change their thoughts about us no matter how many positive films we present to the public. Why? The news is inundated with people who look like us who plague the stereotypical madness that insults the very make-up of our ancestory you so hate… Change. How can you help disspell the madness?

    WOW

    11/24/09, 00:41:am

    Must admit, didn’t see film – yet, but the previews with Monique was a person who was around in a lot of families’ always talking down to their kids, especially in public and around anyone, showed so much self-hatred within; and to make the child seem bad, and the mother seem good. Education for a parent not to treat themselves or their children would be a reason to see the film, I just want to see the mother come around and change and maybe be a solution for other people out there. There’s a lot more messages, and when I see a film, don’t care about what someone is thinking about my race; I want to understand what the film is about. The Color Purple was wonderful, and the message was not about black men being mean, but that women have been treated like crap by men of all colors; and some women have acted worse than Mister. The turning from rural to city had a social message; and how education and love helped families come together (You don’t have to eat everything on your plate, take just what you need).

    Parsifal

    11/24/09, 00:50:am

    for those offended by the movie arnt they going after the book this just seems like sour grapes if you ask me

    THETRUTH

    11/24/09, 01:01:am

    Great movie..Oscar material! Remember people…there’s not a movie in this world that would represent ALL Black, White, Hispanic, or Asian people.

    Laurie Farmer

    11/24/09, 01:43:am

    You coloured folks are H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S.

    Some of you do not like the movie (haven’t even seen it) because it is too close to home.

    Get over it, the movie is not going to tell the rest of America what they do not already know about MOST OF YOU.

    You will go bananas over a movie, but won’t go ape-wild and DO SOMETHING about beign at the bottom of the barrel in your own country with all the opportunities that you refuse to see but foreigners who are fresh of the boat are utilizing.

    Funny lot, you Blacks!

    deesac

    11/24/09, 02:11:am

    Well I don’t hear anybody complaining about white producers making the moving”Blind Side”. A young black kid that needs a home and white people house him and gives him and opportunity to go to college for the exchange of money fame and wealth for themselves,how nice thank you white folks.

    math

    11/24/09, 04:11:am

    to my black family out there in cyber land, why is this debate over a fictional story? what are we all doing to change the outlook of our family? we all express our feelings about an issue but besides running our mouths what have we really done? we turn our backs on our brothers and sisters for the ole mighty dollar. we run away from one another in our times of need. our children are poor. our mothers and fathers are poor. our schools are poor. our communities are poor. when is the last time you helped someone that bares a darker or lighter skin tone as yourselfs. when is the last time you stop and thought about someone struggling in those black ghettos white backwoods brown deserts or yellow jungles. when is the last time you’ve fed someone that could not feed themselves. when is the last time you’ve taken your time to help uplift someone struggling in life… by teaching them what you know… so that they can begin building blocks to step upon to improve their lives. each one teach one are the ways of a family, no matter how difficult the task maybe. a movie is produced then viewed, life is lived. the real issue/s are when are you going to be a true part of solving the problems of man which affect all beings of this planet. in a way I see some of your points, but in large these points are small peas compared to what’s going on in this place. in every city there are homeless men, women, and children. in every city there are hungry people. in every city there are ghettos, trailer parks, half way houses, crack and meth spots. in every city racism lives. in every city those of power abuse their powers… and in every city you look down upon those that you feel are less than you. so, the real problems aren’t what happens on film or in the black, white, brown, yellow, or red families because… we are all one race of humans. one family. it is as an individual how long are you going to just watch, judge, and ignore the truths in our world. we are all one, we need each other and every soul in order to make progress. love me, like you love yourself, and we’ll make it through this… continue to hate me and we’ll continue to fail!

    eygotitall

    11/24/09, 04:25:am

    The only people that think this movie shows black people in a bad light are the people that have their head up their ***** or in the sand & act like these types of things do not exist. That is the problem with most people now a days if something makes them uncomfortable they want to find some way to take away from the true message. Now I am pretty sure a lot of us know a social work ask them how true the story is & I am sure it will shock you. Please pull your damn heads out from where ever it is & you will see these things do happen & need to be brought to light.

    P.S. It’s not only happening to black folks.

    luv em large

    11/24/09, 04:27:am

    @ math

    When is the last time you said ‘yourselves’ instead of ‘yourselfs’

    smh

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 04:56:am

    This movie is negative, and i have a problem with black people who will accept ANYTHING offered to them on a plate and expect the community to gather together as one and support anything a black person does no matter how devastating it is to us as black people.

    This film is like negative news, when the white man always wants to highlight the things black people do wrong, even though white people are doing just the same. This is why the white man is happy to make such a negative movie m*****ive.

    Open your eyes folks, there is too many negative images in the black community and this is the reason why we can have a WHOLE black presdient and still fall back 2 month later in depression, murder and violence as there are a few minorities of people who are in important postitions in life pumping and feeding us negative material.

    This film does show BLACK people in a bad way, it is produced and acted by BLACK people, about a BLACK family, about a BLACK FAT GIRL WHO HATES HER RACE, with HIV, surround by drugs and sexually abused…I mean come on, why would anyone want to inflict this depressing film upon themselves.

    If black people got a fair share in Hollywood with many blockbusting Oscar nomintaed films OKAY, this could be deemed as one of many films, but that is certainly not the case.

    Will Smith has acted in so many wonderful films, yet recieves and gets acknowledged for NOTHING, you would have to bet your bottom last dollar he wouldnt get an Oscar UNTIL he goes against his clear values and doesnt a negative movie that shows an inspiration black man showing black people in a bad light to QUENCH the white mans thrist on us of being nothing but bad bloodied scallywags!

    I said this film was too negative for me weeks ago, and got slatted left right and centre, I am clear it appears BLACK people are slowly waking up! We need better images FACT and we can do much better in life FACT!

    math

    11/24/09, 04:56:am

    in the comment you read. i wrote it that way for a reason. now comment on my thoughts. my points. don’t chop the tree down plant one feel me. @large

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 04:57:am

    Laurie Farmer

    You coloured folks are H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S.

    Some of you do not like the movie (haven’t even seen it) because it is too close to home.

    Get over it, the movie is not going to tell the rest of America what they do not already know about MOST OF YOU.

    You will go bananas over a movie, but won’t go ape-wild and DO SOMETHING about beign at the bottom of the barrel in your own country with all the opportunities that you refuse to see but foreigners who are fresh of the boat are utilizing.

    Funny lot, you Blacks!
    __________________________________________________

    THANK YOU LAURIE, YOU POST PROVES PART OF MY POINT, KEEP THE FACTS COMING!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:10:am

    We DON’T need negative images at all!

    Truimp, Happiness, success, drive, personal achievement, pride and strength is what our fragmented community needs!

    We are almost emotionally bankrupted a community, as we have been through way to much that any race can truly bare and this film doesnt help repair that fact.

    We need healing and repair, NOT highlighting, we know our problems, fix them, not glorify them!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:17:am

    Funny I can’t seem to get my comments up about Will Smith?

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:19:am

    WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD HOW COMES I CANNOT GET MY COMMENTS UP ABOUT WILL SMITH?

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:19:am

    AND WHAT HE IS LONG P*****ED DUE?

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:20:am

    AN OSCAR!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:24:am

    W O U L D H E F I N A L L Y H A V E G O T O N E I F H E H A D P L A Y E D R O L E OF C H I L D A B U S I N G F A T H E R I N T H I S N E G A T I V E F I L M

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:24:am

    OMG this site has to be ran by the white man secretly!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 05:25:am

    Laurie Farmer

    You coloured folks are H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S.

    Some of you do not like the movie (haven’t even seen it) because it is too close to home.

    Get over it, the movie is not going to tell the rest of America what they do not already know about MOST OF YOU.

    You will go bananas over a movie, but won’t go ape-wild and DO SOMETHING about beign at the bottom of the barrel in your own country with all the opportunities that you refuse to see but foreigners who are fresh of the boat are utilizing.

    Funny lot, you Blacks!
    __________________________________________________

    THANK YOU LAURIE, YOUR POST PROVES PART OF MY POINT, KEEP THE FACTS COMING!

    SUCK IT UP FOLKS AND SEE WHAT THE WHITE MAN ENJOYS AND WHAT THEY REALLY THINK AND STOP FOOLING YOURSELVES!

    PhillyinDubai

    11/24/09, 05:37:am

    Why are black people so sensitive about a movie?
    zzzzzzz

    VISION

    11/24/09, 05:49:am

    It is the same all over again, when any movie seems to attract the attention of the great white way, it is oscar worthy. This movie is not and should not be a depiction of the average afro amer home. Monique’s character was crazy, and precious was depressed, lonely and who knows what else. This situation exist in not as many families as they would want us to believe. I mean did you see the exaggerated abuse play by Monique, it was laughable. This movie would have been ok, if it was marketed for what it is, a generic story about a singularly extreme case of abuse, not a flash point view into urban american life……now some people have gone through more, but most have never experienced anything like this, like most have never experienced having their face mauled by a chimp, i guess rosie O will play charla and get oscar contention for this also. Precious and over hyped mess…..

    math

    11/24/09, 06:25:am

    we can argue about white and black all day, but the facts are the facts are the facts. the truth doesn’t change. whites haven’t changed. whites still are benifiting from slavery… thousands of white families gained wealth from slavery and million of little white children’s great great great great grandparents began their success by hunting, shipping, selling, and killing blacks. successes that slowly evoled into respectible companies, banks and industries. thousands of businesses gained capital from slavery as do they still gain from it. this nations was build from slavery. free labor 100% profit. so we can argue all day with the L. Farmers and such or we can understand the complexities of slavery… acknowledge the fact that it still exists today… stronger than ever and stop being a ***** of the game and stand up for yourself. fact: you work everyday. you have taxes deducted from your pay checks. you pay your property taxes. your taxed on water. your taxed on clothes. your taxed on power. your taxed to drive. your taxed on oil. your whole life is on big tax… and you my black family believe that whites have your best interest in mind. billions are spent on weapons of m*****es destruction to keep you the m*****es in line. your kept dumbed down for a reason. powerless for a reason. hungry for a reason. what do you really think that the “have nots” are the “have nots” because they want not? if you look with open eyes you’ll understand that if you don’t play by the rules you want have anything. these struggling down and out blacks are the great great grandsons and daughters of those blacks that would not colaborate. slow after struggling for so long you have those that decide to join forces with the powers that be so that they can live as the haves… and those that decide to rebel as their fathers before them. suffer as their fathers suffered. remember the holidays you all are practicing? someone died against their will in order to bring those to special days to the m*****es. whites know what we are going through, they went through it themselves. remember when they changed they’re names to the purians. they left their land for a reason… and killed for this land for a reason… and stole your labor… your lives… and your deaths… for a reason. whites aren’t dumb, it is you non whites which are the dumbies, giving your last bit of soul willing to be apart of death. the greatest trick the devil ever pulled… was make you believe HE doesn’t exist.

    queshonda

    11/24/09, 07:41:am

    all of you need to stop. this is reality. children are gettin abused and mistreated, and you cant say moniques fake and tyler perry doesnt have anything to do with the script. if you was being abused and mistreated you would want to let people know so they wont be abused. i feel as though yall are being selfish and arrogant. you better be glad they wanna talk about blACK PEOPLE. ITS BLACK PEOPLE LIKE YALL THAT GIVE BLACK PEOPLE A NAME

    queshonda

    11/24/09, 07:46:am

    whITE PEOPLE GO THREW THE SAME THING WE GO THROUGH, SO THIS HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH RACIALITY. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT MOVIE THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN FROM. THIS MOVIE SETS A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR YOUTH AND IF YOU DONT LEARN FROM IT THEN THATS ON YOU. YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT THE HARD WAY EVENTUALLY. DANG! PEPOPLE MAKE ME SICK..UUGHH

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 08:35:am

    I want a reality movie of White people going around the world, stealing countries, turning people into slaves and starting wars at of sheer lies. I bet we wouldnt get that! Last of the truth was ROOTS, and that was decades ago. Does anyone think they will remake, recast that into a Hollywood blockbusting movie with some of our best black stars out there? I dont think so somehow!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 08:37:am

    Queshonda of course white people go through the same thing, however, they seem to enjoy black movies more when we go through something NEGATIVE! They are certainly banging on about it as if it is the best thing since sliced bread…I wonder why?

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 08:41:am

    Look at all the Oscars we have won!

    Washington, corrupt white woman loving police man, killed by a white man in the end!

    Berry, White man screwed her all over the place and bent her backwards!

    those who starred in that movie about the m***** killings in Rwanda!

    Anymore, I bet it wouldnt be for anything good!

    KB's wife (not Kobe Bryant)

    11/24/09, 08:58:am

    it is ignorant as hell to think thst this movie is solely about the black community. like *Angee* said….. abuse happens in every culture!!!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 09:46:am

    Likewise it is as ignorant as hell not to think it isnt about the black community too!

    This film and the white man’s reaction to it reminds me of that Michael Jackson song, “they don’t care about us”. Within the lyrics are masterpiece of truth, we are talked about when something BAD happens to our community! On the whole, they wouldnt help to aid any compounding problems to make this issues right!

    I would be happy if this film was made for the small screen on some nation child ause awareness day, as for a whole mega oscar movie, the point of this movie is only aout appeasing the white man’s hunger for negative stories in the black community, for some status in manistream hollywood. I think that is called selling out, after Obama becoming our first black presdient, the white man must want be on the role in casting us in a bad light!

    Tracey

    11/24/09, 09:48:am

    I hope ALL profits of this movie goes to victims of child abuse and area’s in the black community. Otherwise my fears will come correct, and the moive is soley aout appeasing, recognition, profits and selling out to the white man and mainstream Hollywood!

    CriticXtreme ☼

    11/24/09, 10:11:am

    No matter what black people do, things will be held in a negative or stereotypical light. The true powers (white folks) will always change things to fit their agenda. Not until black folks figure out how not to dislike, hate, beef, kill, act like fools on reality (fake) shows, etc., and unite, this how it will be. The only thing that’s changed since slavery, racism, negativity and murder is the year.

    Spazzy

    11/24/09, 10:30:am

    Who cares!!!

    There will always be an issue of black and white, no matter if we have a black president or all black CEO’s of these fortune 500 company’s. Slavery/Racism is a stain on all races that will continue to go on until Jesus sees fit to come back to this earth. Just deal with it. I’m sooo tired of MY PEOPLE complaining about the white man, what he’s done and what most white people are doing. I mean if we continue to focus on the negativity there is no room for positivity to grow. However, if we as a people would take all of that negative energy and recycle it into positive energy focused towards our families and communities there wouldn’t be much one could say.

    Danielle

    11/24/09, 11:20:am

    If you want to talk about Tyler Perry, please be advised that he also adds professional individuals like doctors, lawyers, professors, authors, ect. in his movies. He has talked about taking in and uplifting orphans, getting your education, removing women from drugs, prostitution, physical abuse, and most importantly redemption. I don’t think that he has exploited the black community to make money at all. As an educated black woman I can separate comedy from real life. While I agree that some movies do exploit black people, I disagree that Mr. Perry does. Madea is an archetype for the old black neighborhood grandmother who does not play but will also feed you, talk to you, and give you what she has to give. I don’t think that there is one black person who does not know a woman like that. Madea is an exaggerated version of this person we all know and that is primarily why we laugh at her. That is what makes comedy what it is. If a stand up comic is going to make a joke then he has to talk about the truth (so that everyone can relate to it) then he must exaggerate it(so that everyone will laugh also at the joke but also the ridiculousness of it).

    Do Much

    11/24/09, 11:43:am

    First off as a black man raised in a urban community (and im sure alot of black man would agree)we have had to face obsticles that alot of people really cant relate to. Police brutality, gangs, drugs, and also a lack of support in our school systems. At one point in my life I was caught up and became a product of my surroundings. I was caught up in a gang, I witness countless amount of friends either die or go to jail for long periods of time. Im my home I didnt personally have to deal with a mother on drugs or being abused or even poverty because I had a working mother. But the abuse that I did endure came from society itself. Image being a young teenager just walking down the street and being thrown on police cars and treated like a criminal for no apparent reason, or because they say you fit the profile. Being approached by drug users asked if they could buy drugs from me and where could they get it from. Older dudes trying to influence you to get put on the set or being told the color of the shoes that you wear wasnt appropriate for the neighborhood. Then you go to another part of the same city and the streets are clean no gangs no drugs because the police are going to make sure that dont come into those neighborhoods. So if you havent seen that or even been through that then you really cant know what it feels like to be abused by society. I now work for the Government, I speak to young black men and mentor and teach about gangs and drugs and just how to overcome obsticles in life. I dont take what I been through and blame it on the white man I take what I been through and use it as a stepping stone to continue to elevate myself. And one day the world will know who I am, and millions will be touched and lives will be changed in a positive way, because of the things I been through as a BLACK MAN.

    Mywon

    11/24/09, 11:47:am

    It is very rare when a book is done justice by the film industry. The director hit the mark.

    D-Rock

    11/24/09, 11:54:am

    I’ve read many of the comments about this movie by bossipers and critics, some good, some bad but what gets me is how some people can act like this type of abuse doesn’t happen in the black community. We see it everyday. While walking in the supermarket down an aisle you’re almost guarenteed to hear a young black mother yelling and cussing at her three year old for asking for some cookies or chips. Walking down a street you’re almost guarenteed to see a young black parent whipping and cussing her 2 year old for falling and getting a pair of jeans dirty. Daily u can hear a black parent calling their child or children: stupid motherf*&*%@s or Ugly b*%$#!s. I mean these things happen. Daily. Abuse is rampant in the black community. Physical, Verbal, Emotional, Sexual. it’s there. But like so many philosophers have stated:sometimes it’s hard to look in a mirror and see what is staring back at us. These are not movies made to demean, demoralize, or deface the image of black America. These are real life, hard, in your face answers to why we have so many black men in our prison systems, why we have so many teenage pregnancies, why most of our black women believe that their bodies are worth more than their minds, why our black men choose selling drugs rather than education. These are hard but true facts on film. Although it Precious may be a fictitious character on film, her story is not fiction.It happens. It’s just that when it gets put on film, those images are hard to bear.

    ms. eyeballz

    11/24/09, 13:09:pm

    If its not in your house doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. All are just being called out. Precious gives a voice and insight to all the wrong doing by the ones that are supposed to love and protect us. Women have been raped from the very beginning and it doesn’t stop at home, he ie: daddy, grandpa, uncle pookey, all the lames that rather abuse a child then court and and marry a real woman. its no secret it is just being brought out and you all don’t like it because one or some of you must or may be predators yourself. awareness is the answer and it saves lives. as for Tyler Perry as once was said “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH”. Your dirty sorrid world is upon you and you can’t take it.

    Nikki

    11/24/09, 13:12:pm

    I haven’t seen the movie yet but I plan to. I have heard great things about this movie. It’s a movie get over it. No one is going to watch the movie and go, ” Ah thats what it is like for all black people.” Get real.

    Yoda

    11/24/09, 13:18:pm

    It may be a good movie, but I think not everyone will get it.

    I’;m tired of the Basket Ball, Dancing, gansters in the hood movies.

    This type of movie is different and it’s needed, these things happen.

    But it’s an ugly portrayal of African decend people, it’s in your face and hard core, but I know most of the world won’t get it.

    With other races I hardly, if ever see movies like this made.

    Okay now back to hating each other again black people.

    ms. eyeballz

    11/24/09, 13:18:pm

    thanks.

    andre

    11/24/09, 13:23:pm

    IT JUST KILLS ME THAT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT “THE COSSBY’S” BLACK FOLKS ARE ALWAYS OFFENDED. THE MOVIE IS ABOUT A THE STURGGLE AND THE TRIUMPH OF A YOUNG WOMAN GROWING INTO ADULTHOOD. BLACK FOLKS GET OVER YOURSELFS, IT’S A MOVIE; NOT A REPRESENTATION OF ALL BLACKS, COME ON PEOPLE ITS 2009, AND MASTER IS GONE!

    We Gon Make It!

    11/24/09, 13:31:pm

    Three words. Read. The. Book. Then, look at the cover. What does it say? It proclaims itself to be a novel. But what is not novel is that many of the themes expressed in the book PUSH – self-esteem, ambition, racism, incest, ARE a part of our culture, and thus the world’s culture. How does a movie like “Precious” compare to kids in India who self-amputee themselves to enhance their appeal as beggars. Or Chinese women who commit suicide at a far higher rate than men. Or adult males who are caught soliciting for underage sex. In truth, I don’t think anyone would be this outraged over a movie about a powerful, white, attorney general who slams prostitution during the day and then refuses to wear a condom with various sex workers at night. I mean he was only the Governor. My point is we do not need anyone else to tell us OUR stories. Only we can do that, and do it with the candor and honesty that is befitting of the subject nature. Whether it be hair, hope, Church, change, gangs or geniuses, the stories need to be told. And with no offense taken. Because at the end of the day, what makes us “look bad” can only make us stronger.

    tired

    11/24/09, 14:23:pm

    this movie was not just about blacks, i saw the movie it was good. it had a lot of things tat goes on everyday in the hood and it needed to be exposed, if you look at it the hood is not only black people any more its white, spanish and everythign else out there. you can hear this kind of language daily walking down the street. i dont see what the big deal was. it just brought secret issues from darkness in to the light. i didnt cry a bit in the movie, people are sooo dramatic and take stuff too personal. bottom line it is not about ” the black man” its about everyone PERIOD.

    divina luz

    11/24/09, 14:25:pm

    @ Tracey,
    Amistad.

    THE JAIL ARE MADE 4 US WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

    11/24/09, 16:39:pm

    SO WHAT YA FALE *****ES.. YA’LL GO PAY ALL YOUR MONEY TO SE CRACKA MOVIES THAT MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL. ALL OF YOUR ARE SLAVES PERIOD.

    WHITE MAN WILL ALWAYS GET PAID OFF BLACK FOLKS STUPIDITY.

    HOW ABOUT KEEPING YOU MONEY IN YOUR POCKET AND CREATE SELF WEALTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IF YA’LL CARE SO MUCH WHY GO SEE WHITE MOVIES WITH NO BLACK STARS IN THEM? OR THE ONE WITH VINCE VAUGH WHERE THEY TOOK OUT THE BLACK FOLK IN THE AD…

    YA’LL ONLY COMPLAIN ABOUT BLACK AND LET WHITE MAN DO ANYTHING!BUNCH OF SLAVES!!!!!!!!!!!

    HOWEVER YOU LOOK AT IT WHITE MAN GOT PAID

    THE JAIL ARE MADE 4 US WHAT DO YOU EXPECT

    11/24/09, 16:42:pm

    LET’S BE REAL HOW MANY WHITE FOLKS YOU THINK ARE GONNA BE PRESSED TO SEE THIS? MAKING US LOOK BAD TO OURSELVES?

    WHITE FOLKS MOVIES WILL ALWAYS MAKE MORE MONEY BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THEM DON’T GO SEE OUR……………BUT WE ALWAYS SUPPORTING THEIR MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!

    DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    be real!!!!

    11/24/09, 16:46:pm

    ya’ll complaing but most of ya’ll idiots when to see “NEw Moon” which has no black celebs in it probably.

    And is about fake vampires.. black folks don’t care about crap for real!!!!!!!!!!!

    RheaNichole

    11/24/09, 17:06:pm

    I don’t think Precious is getting a lot of attention because it shows black people in a negative light, think it’s getting attention (outside of the Tyler Perry/Oprah Winfrey production – which means they put up money AFTER the film was finished) because it’s a good movie. Please, Tracy (or anyone else) name 5 well written, well acted movies with a predominately black cast, written by or directed by black people that were GOOD. And why are people always so hard on Tyler Perry? His movies are no worse than Oprah taking two of my favorite books and making them into AWFUL movies – Beloved and Their Eyes Were Watching God!!

    Jata

    11/24/09, 17:26:pm

    First of all, the movie is based upon a book. A book entitled Push by Saphire which is a great read. The book isn’t meant to depict the black family in any particular way but is a story of a girl, with little to claim with the exception of a new self perception. That she fights hard to establish and gain. Everyone has their own battles and the reality is that some of us, black or any other ethnicity, have dealt with similar issues. It’s meant to encourage not demean. It just burns me up that some people are so deadset on finding the dark side of the sun, insteading of simply embracing its light. Support our black writers and actors please, and if you haven’t seen or read the story, please do so with an open mind.

    Gimmeabreak 78

    11/24/09, 18:11:pm

    Wow, why are so many of us sweeping the central theme of this story under the rug and focusing on black people “looking bad” in the film?

    I went to see Precious last Monday in an ethnically diverse theater and guess what? A fist fight broke out. Two black teenagers were fighting in the movie theater over one thing or another. I can’t remember feeling like the movie was making black people look bad, but I certainly felt like those stupid teens were making us look bad because they couldn’t even comport themselves properly in a movie theater. The irony was that the fight broke out in a movie making a statement about how violence and abuse dehumanizes the spirit. SMH

    Kim

    11/24/09, 18:36:pm

    Oprah always makes these kind of movies so you knew it wouldn’t be long before she teamed up with Tyler Perry to make the ultimate stereotype movie.

    Color Purple Indeed

    11/24/09, 18:47:pm

    if it ain’t about us why did they get the biggest blackest girl they could find to fill that role? I was ebollient at New Moon and then my bubble burst with this dark film. P always wanted a light skinned boyfriend with good hair or looked in the mirror and not only wanted to be white but blonde. Seriously?

    Bluestar

    11/24/09, 20:18:pm

    Tracey – You are wasting your energy. Most of the people in our community have given up resisting the white supremacist propaganda that is forced on us daily. I know many educated black women, proud feminists, who saw absolutely nothing offensive or demeaning regarding Halle Berry’s portrayal of a black mother, who after losing her only child, begs for sex from a racist redneck. They all said it was just a movie. Considering that reaction,how can we expect people to object to “Precious”?

    scooby dubious

    11/24/09, 21:14:pm

    Hmm. . . from the looks of it, this movie should have been called The Octaroon’s Revenge. It’s funny to think they’re (now we’re) still making movies in which the mixed-race caste is helping the untouchables (the blackest blacks) with the problems that come from being dark and primitive.
    We still haven’t approached Genet in our artistic exploration of the ambivalence of being black (you can thank black power activists for crippling black art for anything except crude pro-black propaganda), but maybe we’re at least giving some reservations an airing.

    And most everyone here is too young to know this, but Sapphire (name of the woman who wrote the novel “Precious” is based on) was at one time a name applied mockingly to any outspoken, bossy, big-boned black woman (after a character from Amos ‘n Andy; ask your grandmothers). So even our attempts at dignity have something ridiculous and primitive about them, which was a point made by Genet and by Eugene O’Neill.
    Which is today’s $64,000 question: Is our primitivism an inseparable part of us, even after 400 years in a Western civilization, and if it is, if it’s “home” spiritually, what are our real chances for long-term survival, given that no primitive society survives for long after contact with advanced civilizations.

    irrelevance

    11/24/09, 22:03:pm

    Are movies & rap songs the two biggest problems plaguing black folks today?

    Thxgvg

    11/25/09, 09:31:am

    D-mn these are good…keep writing the research paper comments…LOL
    ______
    Will people pls stop writing Research Papers for comments…LOL

    token

    11/25/09, 12:57:pm

    Yeah, stop writing intelligent, well thought out comments and write ones that are filled with misspelled words, profanity and complete ignorance.

    terrke

    11/26/09, 13:51:pm

    This movie does have negative portrayals of a black family, but there are families like this. This movie isnt meant to give people a bad idea about black families, it is to inform them of what is happening in some black families. We all know that there are some strung out abusive parents out there and there are illiterate black teen mothers. Im almost positive if they made a movie about a black brady bunch people would think it’s unrealistic and stupid.

    goldenbronze

    11/27/09, 17:15:pm

    I’ll p***** on this one…I didn’t even like the previews…Any movie with black caracters being hyped by white people raies an eyebrow …Im still not comfortable with how black caracters or dark skinned ones are dipicted in modern movies..I beleive that their is some kind of underlined phycological agenda….

    Its6amHoGetOut, Bored because my girl, my sister and my mother went shoppin' at 5am, you know damn well I wasnt getting up that early!

    11/27/09, 20:17:pm

    Im tellin’ ya’ll, put a blonde barbie doll in Precious’s hand and stand her naxt to a building, then tell me she wasn’t the model for King Kong 2005! I dare you!

    Its6amHoGetOut, Bored because my girl, my sister and my mother went shoppin' at 5am, you know damn well I wasnt getting up that early!

    11/27/09, 20:18:pm

    next, lol, lmoa ,rofl!

    2 CENTS

    11/28/09, 00:07:am

    My problem isn’t the abuse…Its color in the movie that scares me. Why is EVERY dark person in the movie bad or ignorant…from the mom, to the dad, the guys who push her on the street even the woman who first signs her in to the alternative school. And Everyone who goes out of her way to be kind to her…Lenny Kravits, Mariah, the teacher whatever her face, and the high school social worker are all WHITE or BIRACIAL…no one NOTICED THIS??

    The movie is about race not because its abuse with a black girl, but the characters all talk about it. MoNique’s character is like ” why you got them white people coming to my house”. Precious constantly fantasizes about a light skin man or her white teacher taking her away. And she fantasizes about being a thin white woman too. THESE are the things that makes it about race. And because the movie doesnt address these issues, it makes it like this is the way life is supposed to be. Light / White people are good and educated Dark people are Bad. Holla

    Negrakitty

    11/28/09, 08:00:am

    @2 cents – that is what I disliked about the movie too! I thought it was a good movie and was extremely moved but I feel it was shadist – the lighter the person was the better they were. Would’ve been a lot more balanced if Paula Patton/Mariah Carey’s characters were black skinned individuals.

    I can also see what some people are saying that it does seem to be movies in which we’re downtrodden or acting like clowns where we do well. It would be good to have a movie like The Great Debaters or Amistad do well – one which shows our strength and our pride.*Sigh* I for one am not a fan of Tyler Perry’s movies – but if his success opens the door for more black people in Hollyweird then so be it.

    I can also see that the movie could reinforce negative streotypes – but that would only be amongst ignorant people. Why give a hoot about them as they hate on us anyway!

    Mikel

    11/28/09, 13:07:pm

    Okay, I’m a middle-aged white guy and I didn’t see this movie as an indictment of the black community. I saw it as a story that depicted one family’s personal tragedy, a tragedy that involves poverty, illiteracy, and abuse. These things affect all communities, regardless of color or ethnicity. This movie is about finding strength and resolve in the face of unimaginable challenges. This is one hell of a movie, and the acting is nothing short of incredible.

    Fritschy boy@

    11/29/09, 11:01:am

    man people are so stupid….”aww it protrays black people bad blah blah” only raciest people look at it like that….most black people seem to hate their own culture more than the KKK or if this was a white movie instead of black you wouldnt have white peoplke saying this is a diss to white people,”you see all the Kool aid they drank in that movie” get the %%ck out of here

    Elite

    11/30/09, 02:02:am

    to mr 6am you think what you want to but i believe the movie told a story a real story and i am sure there are jewish families with problems where that comment came from is beyond me, i am sure you do have a lot of time on your hands but i will wait for your repsonse because at the end of the day i know who i am and this movie does not define me so i embr***** it you must see yourself somewhere in this movie because you seem a little uptight, get at me sweetheart

    VISION

    12/6/09, 10:30:am

    This is movie was a horrible adaptation of an equally questionable book. Obviously amateurish in its writing. We hav great storytellers in our community who speak to our struggle and to the struggles of many..sorry Bossip readers but precious is not one of them…..
    the young new actress who plays precious showed about as much acting ability as a 3 year old…the constant mean face, frowning..there are other ways to convey discontent.
    And Monique, who literally spends the movie playing herself just greasier, and louder…a travesty…doesn’t take acting ability to scream 50 curse words back to back, while looking mean. An oscar, i hope you guys aren’t serious.
    Tyler normally piles on the sh*t by the shovelfulls himself, but then the to have the Oprah come in and add additional heaps of sh*t, only made bad even worse. I think coming off of her still healing wounds from the Beloved movie debacle..she was ready to jump on this one…
    (now for those who can read, Beloved is a literaty work of art, written by one of our most acclaimed authors)
    ****We really need to start to demand better from OUR writers, directors and producers. I hope that one day we will be able to watch movies that can call upon our actresses to ACT, call upon a writers to WRITE (linking together expletives is not writing)…call upon our directors to DIRECT..having someone walk through entire movies with a scowl, is not good direction….
    *****Precious is about as relevant as an umbrella in a snowstorm….a book written so intensely to illicit emotion, not through its words and story development, but by someone who tries to force you into sympathy by combining every negative, saddening occurrence possible in one movie…RUNDOWN

    PRECIOUS:
    overweight
    Depressed
    neglected
    verbally abused
    physically abused
    sexually abused
    illiterate
    generally dumb
    low self esteem
    2 children at 16
    AND AIDS

    O.K. we get it, life can be hard!

    Gigi goes HARD!

    12/10/09, 02:37:am

    to the above comment. Ur a idiot. LOL. Just joking but seriously, I didnt see the movie as being about race so much as it is about abuse. Are there underlying themes in most movies? Of course. Does Precious have those themes? In some ways yes. But that doesn’t take away from the overall theme: That even in the worst of cir*****stances, you can find the strength within yourself to overcome and triumph. It really is that simple yet very complex. Everyone can relate in one way or another to the overall theme of the movie. If you have not, in no aspect of your life played the “underdog” (which I find hard to believe) then be blessed. But know that there are many “precious” stories out there. Question is what are you doing to help? If the answer is sitting on your azz and critzing a great movie then I would have to say you should re*****ess yourself. Get up and do something!

    to 6am Your comments were funny to say the least. You are a true fool. I suggest you read the book before you comment anymore. In the book Precious was overweight, dark skinned and obsessed with light skin or white people because of her own self hatred. I think the movie was trying to follow the book as much as possible. It is a shame that the actress (GabY) does not met your standards of beauty. Im sure she is up at night think about why you don’t like her. You say Tyler Perry sterotypes but what the ***** are you doing. You call the main actress all sorts of names. Among them fat, ugly, dark. Like all three of those words go always goes together…..its like you can’t be overweight and beautiful or dark skinned and beautiful. Or fat and beautiful. Turn off the tv and seek help. It is obvious you get your kicks off of putting people down. Your an attention w*****. Since you hate TP so much (BTW I no TP fan), when the f*ck is your movie coming out? I would love to see what you come up with. Peace.

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