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Tiger seems like he has had an identification issue for some time now.

Team Elin all day!!! look at this website http://www.theicaseplace.com they have team Ellin iPhone cases… I feel the same way – disrespectfully cheat– and I’m coming after that ass! look at the case — hilarious! shows her smashing the windows out! LMAO

dammit! oh well… poor tiger… never should’ve dipped into that white chocolate… black athletes already have a bad rap and he’s the poster child of goodness. Now who do we have?

Shut up, b!+ch. Given the choice of dating a blond hair, blue eyed, thin beauty, or some overweight, modern day Aunt Jemima-lookin’ hoodrat like you, welllll, who can blame him?

BoredbMe ….. not quite

i think he does have an identity crisis but who can blame him? I doubt he was exposed to black stuff like soul food, dancing, soul, rnb and other things we all grew up on. its all he’s ever known.

That’s the price you pay when you f—kup Tiger, lectures from every R-A-N-D-O-M “B” out there — including Miss Killer Choppers here.

Really now!

Honestly, how many of us would sincerely give him the time of day?

Also, MJ is his mentor……..which is most likely why is intimate bizness is in shambles.

………….reworking the prenup as if his reputation can be saved is just a waste of money and an insult to his wife if she really married him for love.

You cannot crucify the brother if he was never taught to embrace who he was. This has to due with his family views and where he came from–prob started with his father. Biracial people are always stuck in the middle. Either never “black” enough or trying to be uppity or “white”. When will this crap ever end. Black people are just people–apart of the human race and should be able to date or marry anyone without the hate. He probably grew up around whites and felt accepted by that group. Let people be happy and live their own lives.

a black woman with straight hair is accusing a brotha of lacking cultural pride? pot meet kettle.

Wasn’t exposed to Black culture? The mothafu*king hysterectomy-toothed a** had a Black father. I was done with Tiger when he downplayed his Blackness on Oprah years ago. His golf game is out of this world, but I’ve never thought of him as Black because he doesn’t think of himself as Black and that’s fine by me.

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@Marquis de Sade

The Marquis de Sade would never utter such rubbish.

@Marquis de Sade

You are such a jerk!

Sheryl Underwood is Ugga mugg! lol!. i sure know that if I had to choose btw her and a better looking white, asian or whatever race woman ; i sure as hell am not picking her even if she was the last person on earth.

Its not just rich men like Tiger that think like this. There are black men all over this world who think white vagina is better than black ones when we ALL know that’s not the truth. I hope they milk him for all he’s worth. He was FAKER than a $3 and called himself a “Calablasin” WTF is that? AHA! This shows you money can’t buy happiness. I’d rather be hustling in school, living my life in private than to have my personal business as a topic of national discussion.

I AGREE 100% -TIGER HAS ISSUES…

I guess I see it differently than most black people. I personally have never dated a white woman but I really dont care who Tiger Woods dates. I find it rediculous that black women would be angry at him because he didn’t cheat on his wife with a black woman. How trifling is that???

I look back at some of the stupid things I did chasing women when I was in my early to mid 20′s and I’m humbled. Tiger was just trying to sow his royal oats but because of his sheltered upbringing he hasn’t mastered the game of being a playa. The only game he’s mastered is golf.

Sheryl’s just jealous. If she could get a man like Tiger with his fame and money, she’d be singing a different tune.

1st i gotta get used 2 this new site reconstruction and 2nd i totally agree w/ her thats y im laughing @ his a$$ he thought that white women was dffrnt and they’re not!

i hope he got what he wanted outta this situation “gimme that becky”

Um Sheryl…if he cheats with a sistah he has to deal with A TRAIL OF BABIES TOO! What man-single or married-wants to deal with a group of women who struggle with a TRADITIONAL STUPIDITY about the proper use of BIRTH CONTROL !?! Thumbs up on Tiger’s “Becky Game”…although I would personally be playing the Asian/Persian angle. (like I do now)

ITS WELL KNOWN THAT TIGER, ELDRICK WOODS HAS IDENTITY ISSUES AND THAT HE PREFERS WHITE WOMEN ONLY. I AM GLAD THAT NO BLACK WOMEN WERE INVOLVED WITH THIS JERK AS HE NOW COMES ACROSS AS A BIG TIME SLIME-BALL, AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO WRONGLY THINK THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE ONLY AFTER MONEY WELL THIS HAS TRULY BURSTED YOUR WARPED BUBBLE!!!!!!
ALLL THESE WOMEN INVOLVED WITH HIM NEED TO GET THEMSELVES CHECKED OUT AT THE CLINIC.

it reads of strong self esteem issues..Not only was this guy cheating on his wife even worse he was cheating with at least two women at the same time. she needs to divorce him before it’s too late,their marriage will never be the same. Mark my words it won’t last five more years

Is this coming from Sheryl “I’m a proud republican” Underwood? Biiitch, shut the phuuck up you race traitor – you don’t have any room to talk.

BTW, the UK’s Sunday Mirror has a story on the fourth alleged mistress, Jamie Jungers:

mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/12/05/fourth-tiger-woods-mistress-emerges-115875-21875862/

More women are reportedly coming forward as well. . .

“I’m sure she knew that this might be part of the territory when she signed on.”

Is that why she swung the three iron in his direction? Hmmm. . .

dcgal

Still bitter cuz your H.I.V. test came back positive, huh? Drawback of livin’ n’ fuggin’ in D.C., the AIDS capitol of the world, eh?

*same waitressing line of work*

A white man would never want to date Sherryl Underwood, let a lone a brotha. LMFAO

Yeah! I’m black and asian myself! And for this dude to be more dark and black looking than me and marrying her because she has pink skin and almost white hair, for him to call himself ‘cablasian’, Tiger is a tweeker, the only thing that makes him able to hit those golf balls as well as he can is the AFRICAN in him, and he can’t acknowledge the superiority in him? He dilutes it by watering it down with a frail swede, he’ll see what he gets when he discovers that his children have learning disabilities

@ Dizzy McElroy

Why wouldn’t a black man nor a white man want to date S.U.? Please don’t let your answer have anything to do with skin color or hair type, if you are black yourself with coils, yo, you sound sorry and disgustingly pathetic, learn something ’bout yourself, maybe you’ll love yourself

Come on now that’s the only reason black woman are now wanting to give him some play the stacks. I’m a black woman and I know how stupid sisters can be. They disrespect certain men because they don’t dress a certain way, Drive a certain car, or not a thug. When he get rich they want to get mad because he dates who would give him the time of day before the money started coming in. Stop hatin on Tiger Woods he married who he wanted and he has that right. Sheryl Underwood need to shut her country looking behind up.

This is stupid, a person who has the mentality that allows them to cheat on their wife and kids has a different mind set to begin with. RACE PLAYS NO ROLE! whites cheat, blacks cheat, Latinos, Arabs, asians, natives and anything else, all cheat! It’s more of a character flaw people should stop making it racial

@samantha,
i think you have given the most sensible and erudite answer out of all the comments, you give me hope that there are reasonble black people in america.

WELL PUT SHERYL!

I’m sorry. I don’t give a puck! I love that this is happening to Tiger.

Why should he date BW when he don’t want too. Let TW continue to belittle and make fools out of the women he chose to be with. Why should BW be caught up in this mess. I am glad to see that no BW were caught up in TW’s mess!

Lol @ Tiger.

Oh the satisfaction.

What is it they say?

Oh “black women are aggressive and too much trouble”

Hmm..collecting voicemails, and beatings with a golf club sounds like trouble to me.

Black dudes are so dumb.

@dcgal…..i agree with everything you said…these white chicks play these games like they love black guys ( when really they only love the D***)..but wehen the money gone their gone as well..he** they’ll f*** the bestfriend if he has money. White chicks have no limits…you see that money talks and bs walks…if Tiger’s wife really loved him..money should not be and issue….she was waiting on him to f*** up….

@ Redd..tou are absoutley right…and they always want to give BW a bad name and say we are all about the money…i guess we are seeing first hand who is all about the money…

@ Redd
You are absoutely right…and they always want to give BW a bad name and say we are all about the money…i guess we are seeing first hand who is all about the money…

I am happy his is happening to Tiger too. What’s up with the nannies and waitresses though? Can’t he find an educated, cultured woman to knock boots with?

SHERYL IS ON POINT! THATS WHY I SAY FCKEM…..

LET THE WOLVES EAT HIM UP!

His mom is white…what in the hell to you expect?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I say blame his father then, his father married an asian and then think of Tigers surroundings growing up. The Golf world is very white no lie, and so the circles he moves in has very few black people thats the truth. So he is only going to screw the female type that he is exposed to on a daily basis thats his preference so be it. He went to stanford too not howard. come on folks its all about exposure. Thats what he has always been exposed to.

Tiger was clearly never into black women. When he made it a point to say he IS NOT BLACK that did it for many of black people. And honestly the majority of black women, let’s say 99.9 percent could care less about the becky’s he’s with, wife included. Next story….

i hate it for his wife and the situation that they are going through but im glad that he didn’t inflict all of this torment onto a sister

@Robert.
Tiger Wood’s father was married to a Black women, he had 3 children with her, 2 boys and a girl. Tiger’s father cheated on his black wife with Tiger’s mom, whom he then went on to marry.

@WTH.
Tiger Wood’s mother is Asian from Thailand.

Tiger dated Tyra Banks in 1996 but broke up due to conflicting schedules.

@WTH his mom is not white… His mom is ASIAN! I don’t know where he got the “Cau” part of his “caublasian” because his daddy was black…darker than me! LOL His dad met his mom when he was in the military. I have a cousin who is blasian…dad met mom while he was in the military…and dude looks more Caublasian than Tiger…but I’ve never heard him call himself Caublasian… lmbo.
Anyway… I too am happy there is no sista in the mix.
Maybe black men will open their eyes and see that women are women. The same way a LaTonya can throw a brick, an Elin can swing a golf club. Just different weapons of choice.
And I’ll be darned if these white chicks won’t do anything strange for a little change… SMH…

Ain’t no biggie that Tiger isn’t attracted to black women. He’ll pay for his obsession with white chicks in the end anyway. His marriage has been reduced to a business deal to be renegotiated. The whole world now knows that woman is with him solely for the money. I bet she can’t wait til two years is up so she can divorce him and get that green. Maybe one day he’ll find a woman who really loves him whatever her race may be. One day maybe he’ll love himself.

@Robert

Just because you don’t see it where you are, does not mean it doesn’t exist.

I live in a state that is much into golf and EVERYONE plays…black and white!

The reason why a lot of black people don’t play golf is that we werent’ allowed onto golf greens but for being caddies until a few years ago.

So yes, black men AND women play golf… I’m learning the game myself…

You really should get out more.

Underwood is another fat, bitter, unattractive, lonely Black woman who can’t get a man. She can come to DC though and have her pick of DL Brothas with HIV who will be happy to use her financially and as a “beard”.

Oh Brotha!

12/6/09, 11:08:am

@WTH his mom is not white… His mom is ASIAN! I don’t know where he got the “Cau” part of his “caublasian” because his daddy was black…darker than me!
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Tiger’s father is also multi-racial.

@Mrs. Rance

Which one of Tiger’s grandparents is white?

Heck we’re all multi-racial. What does “multi-racial” mean? So why doesn’t Tiger call himself CauNablasian and get everybody in the mix? Where did the Cau come from?

Let’s be honest does it really matter what her colour is? As long as he is happy with his choice this is all that matters. The problem is that he does not seem to be able to keep his trousers on.

ok, i just read his wiki entry. His father was of African American with some Native American and Chinese ANCESTRY…

And his Asian mother had some dutch in her.

I don’t begrudge anyone embracing all of who they are…

However…after all those degrees of separation, some of those genese didn’t make it down to Tiger..

There is nothing “Cau” about Tiger…but I see he’s tried his best to get some “Cau” into his bloodline.

People always go in on black people for claiming native ancestry… But come on now! LOL

Who cares? That’s Tiger’s business. The topic at hand should be how he’s going to deal with his adultery not the race of his women. None of this would have come out any different had he been dealing with only black women. I’ve never heard any black women say they were interested in him before he got famous or before he married this wife. Black folks just wanna ride his coat tails because he dominates a white-oriented game. That’s about it. Besides, you can’t think of any sports athlete’s who DO consider themselves black who only date white women? Try 75% of the NBA. Underwood’s just mad cuz nobody’s trying to date her loud ghetto @ss.

Black, white, purple, green, whatever, he’s wack. He’s been wack from day one. No matter race, a lot of these professional athletes buy into the whole blond hair, blue eyed trophy wife ideal. It’s not like there aren’t any drop dead gorgeous model looking types that are also black (Naomi Campbell). So, if they’re looking for a trophy wife (which is also wack, but I digress…), I don’t know why they can’t get one dipped in chocolate, caramel or even a little mocha!

I just can’t believe old girl believed he would be faithful. Naive. But, I’m glad she beat his ass! I know that’s not the PC thing to say, but seriously, she put him in his damn place for all the women who have dealt with a cheating man.

@Dirty Sir,

You never heard any white women trying to get at him before he became famous either, what’s your point?

You also never heard of any white women trying to get at him until he got married… Again? Your point, DIRTYsir?

His race as a lot to do with it because he made his “nonblackthainese” statement when he first hit the spotlight.

And we live in a universe where race matters…maybe not your universe, but for the rest of us…

He’s probably only ever known white culture. That’s what the golf world is. I doubt if his father really exposed him to alot of black culture. Probably wanted to make sure he succeeded in life so he put him into the finest private schools and exposed him to everything he needed to get ahead in his career. Other kids probably didn’t see him as black, probably thinking he was one of the darker-skinned asians like Laosian, Burmese or Cambodian or maybe of Indian descent. He probably essentially “passed” himself off as non-black unless he was asked directly. Im sure seeing the exploits of blacks in pop culture probably didn’t make him wanna identify much either.

maybe Tiger only roams in circle that are mostly white… makes sense considering he plays golf and probably spends lots of time at the country club and such… so that would explain the whole white woman thing.. I don’t care who he dates … he’s just not my type… and apparently he’s a douchebag

Preach Sheryl!!

The country uses the psych game, labelling Black women as Gold diggers all the time. The white women who walk away with $50 million to $200 million are never considered gold diggers, their just taking care of their future and their children, “well, after all”… In this area, Black women you need to really wake up, the country is always playing a psych game on you! Trying to make you feel like you are less and worthy of less.

Racist ghetto black women get yet another chance to vent their frustrations over black men not being obligated to them.

@Pat

What exactly is racist or ghetto about Cheryl?

I’ve never lived in the ghetto, and to my knowledge, neither has Cheryl.

You want to label her for labeling people? You want to label other people for labeling people? Hello Pot… lol

The fact that SOME black men don’t feel obligated to black families helps create a lot of problems in the black community. A house divided will not stand.
The Willie Lynch syndrome is pervasive in too many of our brothers and sisters…

Um…You people are stupid. Sheryl Underwood was joking about that on the show. She wasn’t serious. If she was, it still isn’t a valid point. Who someone dates doesn’t matter. Why do people make an issue out of this?

And honestly, how is he any less “black” than anyone else? My God some of you people have fuxed up mentalities.

Pat, you said the truth right there. Blam!

lmao how you gonna scream civil liberties and bigotry for a man who WAS cheating with his wife. He shouldn’t have been messing around with no other woman BUT his wife, and she has the nerve to get upset he didn’t have an asian or black sideline. That’s pretty damn ignorant.

Wasn’t it white people who usually like to label black women as gold diggers????…..Well,well, well, what do we have here in Tiger’s case with all these Becky’s racing to the forefront with their hands out looking for a huge payday. And wasn’t that the same thing in Kobe’s case, the woman who claimed he rapped her but no one heard screams coming from her hotel room????

Once again, white people fail to look in the mirror and see themselves for who they truly are.

Further more, I didn’t read all the post but I hope no one is stupid enough to be angry he didn’t cheat with a Black women. What the Black women I met have said, is that he only dated white women exclusively, not that, he needs to while he is married that would be tottally wrong! Tiger’s chicken’s have come home to roost, he can afford to pay up! Enjoy!

Amen TBonds! LOL

I don’t know where people are getting that black women want Tiger to have a black mistress from…

People want to question and debate when others questioned why Tiger did not date Back women. But it’s never a huge issue when, Arabic cultured demands they marry their own….when the Jewish cultured demand they marry their own….when the India culture marry their own…You don’t see people hootin and hollering over that.

But as soon as someone questions why Tiger is dating and/or marrying black women it because an issue.

Why do people make it an issue when black people question things and/or expect certain things in their culture? But most people would not say a word when other races (I mentioned above) demand the same!…It’s usually accepted (for the most part) and people move on.

But once black people speak out and voice an opinion a lot of people want to have an conniption fit.

Final point (really…sorry I argue in my profession, so don’t take it to heart)

Tiger is gaining an understanding of how SOME white people will treat “token” (how they see them) black people when they fall.

They don’t embrace Tiger’s “otherness” or his “mult-racialness” they see him as being unlike other “black or multi-racial (read got some black in ‘em) people”… Now he’s going to be just another n***** to those types of people.

No, not all white people believe this way… But many do. You can believe it isn’t true, until you are around them long enough to see it and experience it for yourself.

BLACK WOMEN GET ON MY NERVES! ALWAYS MOPING AND COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT BLACK MEN DO AS IF YOU OWN THEM. GET YOUR FAT ASSES OFF THE SOFA AND GET A LIFE AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT OTHER FOLKS BUSINESS.

OK… I lied…that wasn’t my final point..(I’m taking a break…so…I have time to say this)

@Enough… Is that what it is? Fat and lazy black women? Clearly you don’t get out much… obesity is a problem in America and every time I see fat people on tv or at the grocery store in any given city.. with 3 stomachs, they are obese white women…

I often find these comments about black women being obese and out of shape quite hilarious…Specifically when white women are dying under needles and knives trying to get rid of extra layers of fat or having heart attacks from bulimia and anorexia…

Or appearing in documentaries about being extra large like Ruby….Ever seen the biggest loser on NBC?

lmbo… GTFOH..

Oh Brotha!
12/6/09, 13:13:pm

OK… I lied…that wasn’t my final point..(I’m taking a break…so…I have time to say this)

@Enough… Is that what it is? Fat and lazy black women? Clearly you don’t get out much… obesity is a problem in America and every time I see fat people on tv or at the grocery store in any given city.. with 3 stomachs, they are obese white women…

I often find these comments about black women being obese and out of shape quite hilarious…Specifically when white women are dying under needles and knives trying to get rid of extra layers of fat or having heart attacks from bulimia and anorexia…

Or appearing in do*****entaries about being extra large like Ruby….Ever seen the biggest loser on NBC?

lmbo… GTFOH..
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I hate to be the one to say this, but there are plenty of obese people in America…Not just white people, but black as well…heart attacks, Diabetes, and Hypertension are nothing to play with…So it doesn’t matter what color you are, if you are overweight, you should do something about it…Even if it takes surgery to do so…Get your weight under control….As for Sheryl Underwood, my thing is: Anyone can lose weight, but you keep “UGLY” forever!! And she has it in spades!!!

@Sydney™

“As I wrote earlier, Tiger preferred, prefers, and will continue to select white women because they are his preference. This is his choice, and as a black woman, I couldn’t be happier that black women are not entangled in this disgraceful debacle.”

I could not agree more.

A lot of people are saying they feel sorry for Tiger’s wife. I don’t….Maybe she is getting her Karma back.

Even though it’s been reported that Tiger chased her when he met her (hmmmm, all of the current jumpoffs say he calls and texts relentlessly ), once she decided to date Tiger he could have been in a committed relationship and she knew it but continued to date him anyway….karma!

Tiger is a dogg, as we all now know which means he was a dogg back then when she met him and I’m sure he had a bunch of women at that time.

..White women don’t jump on Robin Thicke for messing with the black chicks. Let tiger do what he do. If you KNOW you LOVE white women..WHY go around and date everything else?? Underwood is a stupid broad.

@Oh, Brotha!

Well, Im of the belief that your experiences define you as much as your race or culture. Its obvious Tiger hasn’t spent alot of time around black culture and that’s not all his fault. Im not mad at Tiger for wanting to be around a culture that’s maybe not a large part of his own in DNA. He’s a grown man and he doesn’t owe anyone anything. If he wants to try to be white, let that be his burden. He’s already finding out the hard way that race probably does matter as far as the media is concerned but it’s hard to tell in this age of Jon & Kate/Brangelina/ trash journalism world how much is about race and how much of it is just the media pouncing on a the #1 athlete in golf getting caught with his pants down. Im sure if his wife had been black and he was caught with black mistresses, he’d still be catching it. Just not as hard.

You seem bitter about “multi-racialness”. It’s not ridiculous. It’s very real. Not all people of bi or multiple cultures are willing to turn their backs on their other heritages. My relationship with all my cultures is very good and Im accepted as family at the dinner tables in all my households. I’m all of them. It’s given me a great perspective on how people live together. Im not a person who can just make a judgement on skin color. I don’t care how the world sees me. I don’t adjust to them. They have to adjust to me.

@Day

“I think a lot of it has to do withthe fact that Tiger is an “Alpha Male”…He is tops in the world as far as his golfing ability is concerned, he’s a billionaire, and he is loved and adored by most…(Or at least he was) The mere fact that he dates/finds companionship with women of a lower status only begs the fact that he is not attracted to “Alpha females”…”

Good afternoon, Day. I was responding to an assertion that one of the reasons for Tiger’s dating choices may be the shortage of black women in his milieu. To my knowledge, there are plenty of waitresses of color.

And, I repeat, whom Tiger dates (although any married man should not be dating anyone — once you say your vows, you are committed to one person, or so I thought — Silly me) is his choice. But to try to make this an issue of what sisters do or do not do, where or where they are not, is simply fallacious. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — some black men do not wish to date black women, period. It doesn’t matter what your pedigree is, your profession, your demeanor, et cetera. They don’t want sisters, and I, for one, refuse to internalize a man’s choice as a reflection of who I am and what I have to offer.

Back on the issue of alpha males, I recall NY Times columnist Maureen Dowd’s writings two or three years ago of powerful men’s preference to pursue women in lesser positions, i.e. the CEO chasing the secretary. I believe she wrote a book on the subject.

@Be Real

“I was busy yesterday and didnt catch it until last night but someone else talked about Willie Lynch on the Tank section and he made really good points about whats wrong with some black men and why they think the way they do. I loved the fact that he said he was a black man and chose to not put up with it and allow other black men to think for himself and persuade him to not date black women.”

That was Film. He’s one of the most self-aware, well-informed, erudite men I’ve seen post on this site. He offers a nice counter-balance to the usual vitriol.

@getting down

I totally understand what you are saying but a lot of people including yourself always want to say black woman are at fault for this and that. But if people are honest with each other and themselves, aren’t females of other races at fault for the same things? IF THERE IS ANY BLAME AT ALL….Why are people magnifying the black woman and putting sunshine over the white woman and other cultures with white skin.
But if people are honest with each other and themselves, aren’t females of other races at fault for the same things? IF THERE IS ANY BLAME AT ALL….Why are people magnifying the black woman and putting sunshine over the white woman and other cultures with white skin.
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I cant name ten things that is wrong with us and I have never always said that black women are whats wrong in our community is ALL OUR FAULT. You cant say that we dont bring some things on ourselves like dating the wrong type of black man and sometimes we know this and continue to do it. Us sistas can make better choices for ourselves. White women are at fault for other things too and I have never understood that when white women do things like chasing after a black man, black men defend them because shes a white woman and she can never do anything wrong.

*chasing after a black mans money*

@Sydney

Thank you. I really enjoyed what he had to say. He was on point and I printed his comment to show one of my friends to get her opinion.

you can’t blame the white women, for getting caught.. blame tiger woods.. for getting himself caught out there…

well tiger is technically not soley black/asian.. he said he’s caublasian.. (caucasion, black asian.. whatever..)

hopefully he learn to be more descrete…

you know, you can’t knock a man, for having a type… tiger has a type.. white women… i wouldn’t call it self hate.. thats just his prefference

So now he would have been better off if he had cheated with some sistas and/or some Asians?! Unbelievable!

@Be Real

“Thank you. I really enjoyed what he had to say. He was on point and I printed his comment to show one of my friends to get her opinion.”

Sure thing. I enjoyed reading his posts as well.

um, tiger woods is also half asian… so why isn’t people mad that he should be dating asian women..
the man is married.. does it make it better that he cheated with sistas?? does that even make any sense..

tiger does date black women, he dated tyra banks back in 97! look it up…

The white women can have him. He’s not that fine anyway. WOW! But who knew the arrogant wannabe was good in the sack.

Hey there, Sydney!

Be Real
12/6/09, 14:08:pm

@getting down

I totally understand what you are saying but a lot of people including yourself always want to say black woman are at fault for this and that. But if people are honest with each other and themselves, aren’t females of other races at fault for the same things? IF THERE IS ANY BLAME AT ALL….Why are people magnifying the black woman and putting sunshine over the white woman and other cultures with white skin.
But if people are honest with each other and themselves, aren’t females of other races at fault for the same things? IF THERE IS ANY BLAME AT ALL….Why are people magnifying the black woman and putting sunshine over the white woman and other cultures with white skin.
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I cant name ten things that is wrong with us and I have never always said that black women are whats wrong in our community is ALL OUR FAULT. You cant say that we dont bring some things on ourselves like dating the wrong type of black man and sometimes we know this and continue to do it. Us sistas can make better choices for ourselves. White women are at fault for other things too and I have never understood that when white women do things like chasing after a black man, black men defend them because shes a white woman and she can never do anything wrong.
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Here’s the black woman’s list:

1) Poor choices in men…ie, “Thugs”…

2)Having children out of wedlock…

3)Self esteem issues…

4)Obesity, and the refusal to excercise…

5)Constantly allowing friends/family to dictate how you interact with your mate…

6)Loud and obnoxious behavior…(Sheryl Underwood is a pro at it!!!)

7)Refusal to insist that partners wear birth control…

8) Holding their mates to certain standards, yet they don’t want to adhere to those of their mates..

9)Inconsiderate, and demeaning….

10)Can’t take criticism…

Now before you overload my server with hate mail, I’ll post one on White women too……

@WTH–HIis mom is Philipino not White.

Mel S
12/6/09, 14:34:pm

@WTH–HIis mom is Philipino not White.
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Tiger’s mon is not Philipino. She is Thai and Chinese.

Hey Daywalker – what’s up?

Do you want to also a list of black men and their sins as well? If not, I can do so.

@Kley–Why is it that when women from other races straigthen or curl their hair, it’s seen as nothing but if a black women straightens her hair, she’s seen as self hating.

I asked for someone to name ten things black women are at fault for and WHITE WOMEN can not be at fault of the same thing. @ Day, what you have listed will fall into the category of white women and other races…..So try again.

SMH @ Daywalker

And the vitriol continues, lol. . .

FILM, WHERE ARE YOU?

@Word

“Do you want to also a list of black men and their sins as well? If not, I can do so.”

I say we should let them do the bashing — They don’t know any better. Poor things. . .

White Women:

1)Too accepting of promiscuity..

2)Wear too much makeup…

3)Can’t cook…

4)Totally clueless about black cultural issues most of the time…

5) Most I’ve met aren’t religious…

6)Too clingy sometimes…

7)Wear just as much fake hair as sistas, but don’t get called on it…

8)Don’t usually age well….

9)Don’t deal with adverity well most of the time…

10)Actually believe the media hype that they are the most beautiful women on the planet…..

Sydney™
12/6/09, 14:40:pm

SMH @ Daywalker

And the vitriol continues, lol. . .

FILM, WHERE ARE YOU?
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See what I mean?? I made out 2 different lists on 2 different types of women, but I’m the one who gets attacked?? Shame on you, Syd!!!

@Day

There are two different lists full of stereotypes of black and white women. Shame on you, bruh. Shame on you.

*looking for Film’s intelligent post to share*

@Word

Here’s an excerpt from Film’s post yesterday (I don’t think he would mind me re-posting it). There are single quotes around the comments from another poster to which he responded:

‘Then when a Black man is Good, Loving , Caring , and Supportive of his Woman ….. The Black ***** Cheats on him and has 4 kids with 4 other dudes ….. turns around and says its your ” You kno thas your baby’

I see. This is why you have an extreme feeling of antipathy towards black women. Someone broke your heart, and instead of making a distinction between a past relationship failure with a particular black woman, you generalize all of them. Yeah, that’s NeGGa Sh*t.

‘And actually …. BLACK Woman are the lowest ..get the facts str8’

There’s definitely an existence of ingenious, exemplary black women with an appreciation for black men. I’m involved with an astute, educated sister who graduated from a very prestigious university. And for the record, I have never had a problem finding a suitable, professional black woman. Also, I’ve met several black women who do not hold college degrees, and are admirable, and intelligent. So, yes, black women who are worthy of imitation, with morals/values, are prevalent in our community. Maybe you should pick and choose your environment.

For the most part, I believe that individuals are cognizant of the behavior of their significant others prior to becoming involved exclusively in a relationship. Sometimes, they just choose to ignore those pessimistic traits along with other dominant dispositions that women of ‘ALL ETHINIC BACKGROUNDS’ exhibit.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 14:48:pm

@Day

There are two different lists full of stereotypes of black and white women. Shame on you, bruh. Shame on you.

*looking for Film’s intelligent post to share*
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And for the record, I’m as shameless as they come!!! You know that!!!

@Day

“Fine, we agree to disagree, but I still say that women of all races do some of the same things…”

Then why didn’t you create one list for ALL women, rather than breaking the traits down by race?

@living with no regrets~~~ You are right, I said it before “ white women knew he was a jerk when they saw he dated only white women, they flew after him like the pigeon heads they are> All they want is black di-k and to take the black mans money, simple because they know that idiot is living in the brain washed world that white fokks have always tried to make like.. white is better!1 abd we all know thats a dman lie!!

The more DAY speaks, the more transparent he becomes and we began to get a true sense of his feelings….***shaking my head***

Sydney™
12/6/09, 14:57:pm
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Okay, so from his post, he found the exception, not the rule! Women of any color have been known to do shady things, so to be honest with you, if someone chooses not to be with a person based on prior experiences, that is their choice!!! Can’t hate on some one if they feel a certain way…That’s their right, SYD….

@Day

“Okay, so from his post, he found the exception, not the rule!”

Who are you referring to? Film?

@getting down

The more DAY speaks, the more transparent he becomes and we began to get a true sense of his feelings….***shaking my head***
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I agree. Hell start back up once Marquis or 6 am come in.

At first I too was questioning why Tiger never preferred black women, but then I had to think about it. Tiger father is black, but his mother is asian…i think. Therefore, Tiger never had a problem w/ interracial relationships since Tiger’s father was down w/ the swirl. Therefore, Tiger probably did not have a strong black female presence in his life assuming that he did not have much interactions with his father’s mother. But who knows if his father’s mother is black. So Tiger has no strong connection w/ dating a black woman because he was not directly exposed to having a black mother. Tiger does not even considers himself fully black so of course he likes other races.

When black men kill dogs society wants their heads….But when black men attack or kill each other it isn’t a major issue to society.

Some black men are still to ignorant to see that society (white men) have placed little value on them. They have placed a dog as being more valuable.

getting down
12/6/09, 15:03:pm

The more DAY speaks, the more transparent he becomes and we began to get a true sense of his feelings….***shaking my head***
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Let’s get a few things straight here…I never said I personally felt this or any other way, but I will state that a lot of brothers do…As for being transparent, you can ask me my personal feelings, and I’ll gladly share them…Till you do, speculate all you wish…

“The more DAY speaks, the more transparent he becomes and we began to get a true sense of his feelings….***shaking my head***”

Yeah, he’s about to put his foot in his mouth, but I’m ready for it.

I always wondered why Tiger, a Stanford University graduate would want to date and marry a nanny.

However, Tiger was absolutely correct in doing so. He married a nanny because he is a child and a nanny takes care of a child.

Despite all of his wealth and athletic ability, he is a silly, immature, selfish child.

Pretty soon we will hear about little Beckys and little Billys that Tiger is the father of outside of his marriage.

Tiger you are an idiot and this was some bytch as$ moves you made buddy! Don’t come running to your black race when the white man finish chewing and spitting your dumb As$ out over this!

Sheryl Underwood needs to stay in her lane. I think she’s ‘suspect’ for being a Black Republican.

Tiger is an only child and he has always been doted on by his parents. His golfing prowess allowed the public to dote on him too.

His wife, Elin probably doted on him too,until she had the baby. Then she couldn’t pay him as much attention and he got mad and hurt. He felt ignored and lashed out by having the affairs. He’s a child.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 15:11:pm

“The more DAY speaks, the more transparent he becomes and we began to get a true sense of his feelings….***shaking my head***”

Yeah, he’s about to put his foot in his mouth, but I’m ready for it.
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Et tu, SYD??? Et tu??? Oh, ye of little faith….

there are some fine women in every group.every group got gold diggers.but don,t try to tell me who to date that,s aryan nation talk.but you can,t get the rich dude if you got 2 kids by time you are 21.and way too fine sisters are babied out by 25.

@Day

“Et tu, SYD??? Et tu??? Oh, ye of little faith….”

I’m still unclear on who you were referring to as having found the “exception.”

There’s too much misogyny on this site for me to have much faith. Sorry.

Yes, Julius, et tu.

Unlike others, I don’t think that many of Tiger’s issues have to deal with race.

The only problem with the racial issue is that Tiger married a fantasy. Elin was his fantasy partner. Whenever you have a fantasy, reality is seldom far behind and it was not what he wanted. A lot of people choose things that turn out to be malignant for them.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 14:59:pm

@Day

“Fine, we agree to disagree, but I still say that women of all races do some of the same things…”

Then why didn’t you create one list for ALL women, rather than breaking the traits down by race?
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Whups, didn’t see this…

Because if I did that, I’d be here all day!!

Women and men of all races have their stereotypical faults! They all do…I just made lists that were relatable to different races based on the probable stereotypical response….Such as : “White women are freaky”….Now not all are, but more often than not, they are….Or, “Black women are loud when they get mad”….Not all are, but you yourself saw that interview with the press secretary…If a 20 year veteran reporter can lose her cool, then there’s probably some truth to that…..(Just sayin)…

Tiger and his family have been LYING about their racial identity for many years. Tiger’s dad claimed to be Chinese, African-American and Native-American, his mother claimed to be Thai, Chinese and Dutch. Thus Tiger claiming to be only 1/4 African-American, however there are no documentation in Earl Woods’ (Tiger’s Father) history that this is his family makeup. Most family sources actually point to Earl Woods being African-American with scant traces of Native blood. Tiger’s mother’s Dutch ancestry cannot be traced through going back at least three generations. Summary – “TIGER as well as his father are self hating men.” But if would go through these lengths to dilute his BLACKNESS we really should not care.

honestly I don’t feel bad for Tiger he is a grown man who knowingly put himself int this situation. I feel bad for his wife and kids. I don’t care that he married a white woman must black men date anything but black these days anyway so that’s not new. While, I think he only owes his family an apology. I think he is doggedly wrong for cheating with multiple women who obviously have no morals or values or respect for family. They could have turned his advances down but ultimately they are getting what they wanted money and attention.

@Daywalker, I enjoy reading your posts.

satch
12/6/09, 15:29:pm

there are some fine women in every group.every group got gold diggers.but don,t try to tell me who to date that,s aryan nation talk.but you can,t get the rich dude if you got 2 kids by time you are 21.and way too fine sisters are babied out by 25.
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Yeah, Elin didn’t have babies until she was married, but that fact didn’t help her one bit. Having a rich dude doesn’t mean having a GOOD dude. I’d rather marry a man with not so much money (we can work together) than one with a lot of money is of a questionable character.

@Day

“Or, “Black women are loud when they get mad”….Not all are, but you yourself saw that interview with the press secretary…If a 20 year veteran reporter can lose her cool, then there’s probably some truth to that…..(Just sayin)…”

Did a white woman not just chase her husband with a three iron?

Hillary Clinton lost her cool during a news conference some months ago in Africa. Maybe she’s an undercover sista, too.

My head hurts. . .

Film covered the Willie Lynch letter yesterday. Perhaps I should go into the history of the creation of stereotypes regarding black women — including the formation of three key archetypes: Jezebel, Sapphire, and Mammy.

satch
12/6/09, 15:29:pm

there are some fine women in every group.every group got gold diggers.but don,t try to tell me who to date that,s aryan nation talk.but you can,t get the rich dude if you got 2 kids by time you are 21.and way too fine sisters are babied out by 25.
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Quite true!! Good point….
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Sydney™
12/6/09, 15:30:pm

@Day

“Et tu, SYD??? Et tu??? Oh, ye of little faith….”

I’m still unclear on who you were referring to as having found the “exception.”

There’s too much misogyny on this site for me to have much faith. Sorry.
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I’m guessing it was Film, but either way, I don’t think that you should cheat if you’re in a relationship…Notice, I said “relationship”…If you aren’t serious, you should state that from the beginning and it’s up to that person to decide if they choose to pursue things….Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don’t…But disclosing your intent allows you to avoid any later misgivings….On both parts….(In my experience)

If Tiger does not want to claim any African American blood or culture, let him. It’s really OK. He’s not hurting anyone. If Tiger wants to be an honorary white man at the golf club, let him.

I hesitate to mention that every article that I’ve seen about Tiger and this “incident” have all stated that Tiger is black or African American. The only adjective in front of it was rich.

Here are a few links with more info on historical stereotypes of black women which have persisted to this day and continue to affect not only the perceptions of non-blacks, but many in our own race, i.e. internalized racism:

academic.udayton.edu/race/05intersection/Gender/AAWomen01a.htm

@Day

“I’m guessing it was Film”

So you think Film found the “exception?” The exception to what? Please elaborate.

And of course Sanjor appears AFTER people and myself said they notice how DAY really feels..lmao

Sydney™
12/6/09, 15:39:pm

@Day

“Or, “Black women are loud when they get mad”….Not all are, but you yourself saw that interview with the press secretary…If a 20 year veteran reporter can lose her cool, then there’s probably some truth to that…..(Just sayin)…”

Did a white woman not just chase her husband with a three iron?

Hillary Clinton lost her cool during a news conference some months ago in Africa. Maybe she’s an undercover sista, too.

My head hurts. . .
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Sydney, my dear, men like Marquis, 6 a.m. don’t like to cast shadows on the almight white female so they’ll tend to ignore such facts.

Sanjor
12/6/09, 15:38:pm

@Daywalker, I enjoy reading your posts.
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You brighten my day as well, dear lady!!!

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Sydney™
12/6/09, 15:39:pm

@Day

“Or, “Black women are loud when they get mad”….Not all are, but you yourself saw that interview with the press secretary…If a 20 year veteran reporter can lose her cool, then there’s probably some truth to that…..(Just sayin)…”

Did a white woman not just chase her husband with a three iron?

Hillary Clinton lost her cool during a news conference some months ago in Africa. Maybe she’s an undercover sista, too.

My head hurts. . .
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Okay, and ZSA ZSA Gabor slapped a guy, Diana Ross frisked an airport security guard, and Naomi Campbell spat in some one’s face before!! People of any color can get upset and act irrationally, but I wasn’t referring to them…I specifically referred to a specific occurrance, and you chose to justify her behavior based on Hillary Clinton’s actions…Newsflash: Hillary was somewhat out of order, but believe me, “sista gurl” was far more disrespectful in my opinion!! The mere fact that you choose to minimize it makes no difference! She was wrong, SYD…..

Clarification: I believe Hillary was actually fielding questions from students in Africa during her recent trip. I think there was an error in the translation of the student’s question, which she misconstrued and responded to very rudely, and it made headlines.

@Word

Girl, this is too much.

@Old Timer

Laughing @ “PWP”

Be Real
12/6/09, 15:45:pm

@Sanjor

@Daywalker, I enjoy reading your posts.

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I have a hard time understanding this. How can you love someones post when they often refer to black women as *****es and they degrade women often? We got to do better.
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Because she’s part of Kilgali’s group. They think alike.

@Day

“Newsflash: Hillary was somewhat out of order, but believe me, “sista gurl” was far more disrespectful in my opinion!! The mere fact that you choose to minimize it makes no difference! She was wrong, SYD…..”

How am I minimizing it? Both were wrong, but you’re clearly drawing a distinction in the behavior of black women compared with women of all races. I attempted (albeit unsuccessfully) to show you that you’re repeating stereotypes that were created generations ago and continue to contribute to the divisions among us.

And, again, I ask, could you please elaborate on what you referred to as the “exception?” The exception to what?

Be Real
12/6/09, 15:45:pm

@Sanjor

@Daywalker, I enjoy reading your posts.

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I have a hard time understanding this. How can you love someones post when they often refer to black women as *****es and they degrade women often? We got to do better.
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Could you refer me to where I made such a statement?? I never call Black women “B*tches”…I will call someone a B*TCH is it is the proper tem to use when referring to them…Case in point: “Naomi Campbell is a B*tch for dating a married man publicly…” See how that works???

Were you saying, Day, that Film met the “exception” to black women in general? *trying to coax a response/clarification out of you*

if it is the proper term* (typo)

@Sydney, Isn’t this something (smh in amazement!)

Okay, I hate to be a pest, but I am trying to locate Film’s comments. I went to the Tank thread and did a search for Film, but got no response. What am I doing wrong?

@Wordtothewise

Because she’s part of Kilgali’s group. They think alike.
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I know shes apart of her group. I just dont get it. I think most of the men on here that always co-sign Kigali hate black women, whether they know it or not.

I see what she’s saying but at the same time if he likes white women then that’s just what he likes. Who are we do dictate who he wants to be with?

“I think most of the men on here that always co-sign Kigali hate black women, whether they know it or not.”

I, too, agree that a considerable number of male posters on here seem to be unaware that they display a high level of antipathy for black women. I have to chuckle every time I see a sentence that begins with, “I love my sisters BUT. . .” (usually ends with an insult/stereotype).

Be Real
12/6/09, 16:03:pm

@Wordtothewise

Because she’s part of Kilgali’s group. They think alike.
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I know shes apart of her group. I just dont get it. I think most of the men on here that always co-sign Kigali hate black women, whether they know it or not.
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Yeah, I don’t get it either. They are very confused individuals. As far as the hate for black women, I agree. I believe they probably had domineering mothers, thus, they hate black women because they hate/dislike their mamas.

@Sydney, thank you, girl! I’m going there right now.

Tiger probably secretly hates his mother that is why he ran to women of another race. Most men who love and adore their mothers will want to be with a woman like her. But when a man hates his mother, he choose a race different from hers.

You notice we never saw him showing his mother and real affection in public even when his father was alive….Reports have said that his mother and Elin’s mother was in the house the night of the fight…..My question is, if the fight escalated outside why didn’t the neighbor who called the police witness Tiger’s mother outside somewhere trying to stop Elin from attacking him?

What mother do you know will not try to stop their sons wife from attacking him????? It doesn’t matter how old the son is, especially if they had a close relationship.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 15:58:pm

@Day

“Newsflash: Hillary was somewhat out of order, but believe me, “sista gurl” was far more disrespectful in my opinion!! The mere fact that you choose to minimize it makes no difference! She was wrong, SYD…..”

How am I minimizing it? Both were wrong, but you’re clearly drawing a distinction in the behavior of black women compared with women of all races. I attempted (albeit unsuccessfully) to show you that you’re repeating stereotypes that were created generations ago and continue to contribute to the divisions among us.

And, again, I ask, could you please elaborate on what you referred to as the “exception?” The exception to what?
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I merely stated that Hillary was answering a student, and went off..Was she justified in her behavior?? No, but in her defense, the translator was primarily at fault, not her…As for “The exception” there are plenty of good, hard working, god fearing and desirable black women of color in America!! They get up, go to work and provide society with role models for young women to emulate, and I love them for it!!! But at the same time, there are also plenty of bitter, lethargic, low self esteem having black women who hate black men based solely on the fact that they never had the experience of having a father in their lives….In short, the question is: If you have a father, what or why did things not work out?? My father has been a part of my life for as long as I’ve been alive…My oldest sister was 42 before she died, and My parents were married before they had her…Guess what?? My mom and dad are still together!! So what is it that kept my parents together?? I’ll tell you, since you want to ask…It was RESPECT,COMMITMENT, COURAGE, LOYALTY, TRUST AND A WHOLE LOT OF LOVE, SYD…Too often in today’s society, There just isn’t a whole lot of it…If you find it, consider yourself blessed, because it is rare….

@Sydney

I have to chuckle every time I see a sentence that begins with,“I love my sisters BUT. . .” (usually ends with an insult/stereotype).
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I see it often too and I just shake my head and say you cant be serious.

@Wordtothewise

I believe they probably had domineering mothers, thus, they hate black women because they hate/dislike their mamas.
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Yep, its so crystal clear that they do hate their mamas and some actually think that they can look at another black women and feel different about them.

@Day

My parents are still married as well.

“If you find it, consider yourself blessed, because it is rare….”

I have found it — with a man who doesn’t believe that exceptional black women are the “exception.”

Be Real
12/6/09, 16:07:pm

@Daywalker

Could you refer me to where I made such a statement?? I never call Black women “B*tches”…I will call someone a B*TCH is it is the proper tem to use when referring to them…Case in point: “Naomi Campbell is a B*tch for dating a married man publicly…” See how that works???
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You cant be for real. You have been degrading women and referring to black women as *****es often. I dont feel like going back and searching for your comments but when I see you do it from now on, I will tell you about it. Like I said earlier, if 6 am or Marquis were in here, youd be doing it.
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Well, please do tell me all about myself!! And the next time you bash a black man, I’ll do the same!! DEAL????

@Sydney

As for “The exception” there are plenty of good, hard working, god fearing and desirable black women of color in America!! They get up, go to work and provide society with role models for young women to emulate, and I love them for it!!! But at the same time, there are also plenty of bitter, lethargic, low self esteem having black women who hate black men based solely on the fact that they never had the experience of having a father in their lives…
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Theres that BUT. Are you chuckling?

Sydney™
12/6/09, 16:18:pm

@Day

My parents are still married as well.

“If you find it, consider yourself blessed, because it is rare….”

I have found it — with a man who doesn’t believe that exceptional black women are the “exception.”
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Congratulations!!! Now could you please help some of your sistas make better choices in men??? The world would be better off!!! Thanks!!!

@Daywalker

The difference is I say SOME black men when making a comment. I don’t stereotype them all.

Oh, and you’re defending Hills’ ugly little outburst in another country? lol

There are plenty of other times when she also lost her cool during the campaign. I think, at one point, Keith Olbermann devoted one of his “special messages” to her on one particularly ugly episode.

@Be Real

“I see it often too and I just shake my head and say you cant be serious.”

Oh, but they are serious. They think they “love” the sisters. LOL!

Who Tiger Woods chooses to date is HIS business, HIS concern. It doesn’t affect my lifestyle one bit.

Sheryl Underwood is 1) angry, 2) over-weight and 3) UGLY (eeew)! She has a WHOLE LOT to work on, without worrying about who Tiger Woods dates.

@Be Real

“Theres that BUT. Are you chuckling?”

LMAO! I was just thinking, why does all this “love” for black women come with so many caveats? I think it’s so ingrained, they’re not even aware of what they’re conveying. It’s part of their subconscious.

@Day

“Now could you please help some of your sistas make better choices in men??? The world would be better off!!! Thanks!!!”

Can you help some of your brothers be better men worth selecting? The world — and the black community — would be better off. Thanks!!

@Sydney -

Film is an AMAZING brother. I’m telling you girl, he shuts all the arguments down. It’s funny because I don’t see him here as much as I used to. The brother brought it home!

@Sydney

LMAO! I was just thinking, why does all this “love” for black women come with so many caveats? I think it’s so ingrained, they’re not even aware of what they’re conveying. It’s part of their subconscious.
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LMAO, I totally agree. When I express my love for black men there is never a but.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 16:23:pm

Oh, and you’re defending Hills’ ugly little outburst in another country? lol

There are plenty of other times when she also lost her cool during the campaign. I think, at one point, Keith Olbermann devoted one of his “special messages” to her on one particularly ugly episode.

@Be Real

“I see it often too and I just shake my head and say you cant be serious.”

Oh, but they are serious. They think they “love” the sisters. LOL!
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I’m not defending anything! I said that she was wrong and overreacted due to an error in communication…Read what I wrote, SYD…
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Be Real
12/6/09, 16:22:pm

@Daywalker

The difference is I say SOME black men when making a comment. I don’t stereotype them all.
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And I have stated numerous times that my comments are not all encompassing…That being said, if what I say doesn’t apply to you, keep it moving…If it does, take it as constructive criticism…But I refuse to sit here and let some of these females think they can do no wrong when they clearly engineer their own misfortune in relationships…down play it all you wish, but the simple fact is that they choose to turn a blind eye to their faults…..
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@Word

“Film is an AMAZING brother.”

He sure is.

“I’m telling you girl, he shuts all the arguments down. It’s funny because I don’t see him here as much as I used to.”

There’s a reason for that, I’m afraid. He’s like an alien on this site, too, lol.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 16:27:pm

@Be Real

“Theres that BUT. Are you chuckling?”

LMAO! I was just thinking, why does all this “love” for black women come with so many caveats? I think it’s so ingrained, they’re not even aware of what they’re conveying. It’s part of their subconscious.

@Day

“Now could you please help some of your sistas make better choices in men??? The world would be better off!!! Thanks!!!”

Can you help some of your brothers be better men worth selecting? The world — and the black community — would be better off. Thanks!!
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Preach!

Greetings to All

@SYDNEY- “Can you help some of your brothers be better men worth selecting? The world — and the black community — would be better off. Thanks!!”
*high five sista*

@WORDTOTHEWISE- *waves frantically* lol, hey girl.

*”special comments**

Sydney™
12/6/09, 16:27:pm

@Be Real

“Theres that BUT. Are you chuckling?”

LMAO! I was just thinking, why does all this “love” for black women come with so many caveats? I think it’s so ingrained, they’re not even aware of what they’re conveying. It’s part of their subconscious.

@Day

“Now could you please help some of your sistas make better choices in men??? The world would be better off!!! Thanks!!!”

Can you help some of your brothers be better men worth selecting? The world — and the black community — would be better off. Thanks!!
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Not a problem, but I could have sworn we were discussing black women up until this point…So why change the subject, SYD????

@Be Real

“LMAO, I totally agree. When I express my love for black men there is never a but.”

Girl, that’s all I’m attempting to say! When I say I love black men, it’s not in a phrase that ends in “but some of you are such-and-such.”

It’s like some of them are programmed to be unable to fully love and appreciate black women while pointing to the flaws of some. It’s not complimentary at all — In fact, it’s quite insulting.

Hey Ms. EJ! *waving*

@Day

“Not a problem, but I could have sworn we were discussing black women up until this point…So why change the subject, SYD????”

You’re absolutely right. Why would we put the focus on anyone other than black women, right? After all, we are to blame for the downfall of the race.

Sydney™:

Actually, we were discussing black women…You purposefully redirected the discussion to black men, but I have no issues discussing them as well based on my views….

@Daywalker

But I refuse to sit here and let some of these females think they can do no wrong when they clearly engineer their own misfortune in relationships…down play it all you wish, but the simple fact is that they choose to turn a blind eye to their faults…..
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Do you do the same for black men or is it just black women? Do you tell black men about their wrong doings?

I’m looking at Day in the mirror. . .(ooh). . .I’m asking him to change his ways (ooh). . .

Be Real
12/6/09, 16:43:pm

@Daywalker

But I refuse to sit here and let some of these females think they can do no wrong when they clearly engineer their own misfortune in relationships…down play it all you wish, but the simple fact is that they choose to turn a blind eye to their faults…..
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Do you do the same for black men or is it just black women? Do you tell black men about their wrong doings?

The only thing black men are doing wrong, is going raw dawg in you (NO ACCOUNTABILITY, CAN’T DO NO WRONG)sistas’

@SYDNEY- “I complimented a brother, and you told me to help sisters work on one of the items on your list. Once again, positivity is met with negativity.”—I was just having an indept discussion regarding positivity and negativity with my friend. We both agreed that nowadays it seems that negative is positive and positive is negative, unfortunately. It seems that many go hard against positivity, but “praise” the negative of things.

Be Real
12/6/09, 16:43:pm

@Daywalker

But I refuse to sit here and let some of these females think they can do no wrong when they clearly engineer their own misfortune in relationships…down play it all you wish, but the simple fact is that they choose to turn a blind eye to their faults…..
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Do you do the same for black men or is it just black women? Do you tell black men about their wrong doings?
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Of course I do!! Heck, I’ve had knock down drag out fights with my own brothers over why they shouldn’t have had kids outside of marriage!!! Trust me on this: Nobody cuts into your ego like someone you care about, and they know my views…Hearing it from family only re enforces it…..

@Day

“But based on the fact that a lot of single parent households do not have fathers, the issues primarilyy stem from women trying to raise men….”

We’ve already examined this issue in depth, and I think most people recognize that sons need their fathers. I’m still not seeing you say what black men’s role is in ameliorating this debilitating situation.

Oh dear……

Be Real:

But do you tell sistas about themselves???

@WORDTOTHEWISE- I had a rough weekend thus far starting Friday so my heart is a little sore still, but I thank God for endurance. My daughter (Heaven is her name )is doing very well. I’m in the process of trying to get or build her a bigger bookcase she has alot (she loves to read! since she’s been 2 now just turned 4).

@DAYWALKER- Every one has a situation that may not be known to all. I understand the arguement on out of wedlock children (minus those who are just having kids left and right for the fun of it), but just because one has a child out of wedlock does not make he or she a bad person or you better than them (not saying you). It is no different from one person who has a degree and anotehr who does not it does not make that person superior or inferior to the other. We all agree that higher education great to obtain and marriage is great as well.

thug-hungry s.n.a.t.c.h.e.s.

@Daywalker

To answer you question, yes I have told black women about themselves.

Sydney™
12/6/09, 16:58:pm

@Day

“But based on the fact that a lot of single parent households do not have fathers, the issues primarilyy stem from women trying to raise men….”

We’ve already examined this issue in depth, and I think most people recognize that sons need their fathers. I’m still not seeing you say what black men’s role is in ameliorating this debilitating situation.
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Ok, I’ll break it down then….

Black men need to:

1)Wear protection when dealing with any and every woman they choose to be with

2)If/when they become fathers, be there for the sake of their kids…

3)Get a job and provide for their children…If they choose not to stay with the mothers, pay child support, and medical expenses…That child didn’t ask to come here, so he/she’s your responsibility!!

4)Be a good role model for your children…Meaning, STAY OUTA JAIL!!!

5)Be in your kid’s life…Spend time with them, love them, nurture them, and keep them safe…

6)Stay out of the streets….The same things that were there are still there…Only the names and faces change….

7)Focus on your Career/Education….

8)Quit viewing women as conquests…Especially if you’re married…If you choose to want to play around, get divorced….It’s cheaper….

9)Learn to just let some things go when dealing with women….Guys are stubborn and headstrong, but you can’t be right all the time…sometimes you have to shut up to keep the peace

10)Do whatever you have to to keep a happy home…..

that’s some of what black men need to do…Would you like to see what black females need to do?????

@WORDTOTHEWISE & SYDNEY- It is hard to understand how some men came be extremely negative on their views towards black women when they were birth out of one. They had to have had some good black women as sisters, aunts and grandmothers. I wonder if they show their mother’s their comments and/or tell them their actual thoughts on black women, I doubt that they do.

can be*

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 17:03:pm

@WORDTOTHEWISE- I had a rough weekend thus far starting Friday so my heart is a little sore still, but I thank God for endurance.

I’m sorry to hear that. Are you okay? Yes, hon, he will give the endurance you need. I hope things have gotten better for you, sweetie.

My daughter (Heaven is her name)is doing very well. I’m in the process of trying to get or build her a bigger bookcase she has alot (she loves to read! since she’s been 2 now just turned 4).

I’m glad to hear Heaven is doing well. That is wonderful that she loves to read. She’s starting out very young with a hunger for books. Is she is preschool?

Take care, hon, and I hope you have a much better week.

Very true. Why is it black American women get upset when an island man only dates island women. But nobody says anything when jewish people, various asian groups and Latin groups do it. Italians do it the most. Nobody says a peep. But A Jamaican dude has on a flag and all hell breaks loose. LOL

Hi everybody!

I said Hi Everybody!

Muthaf*ckas i said Hi!

I hope you’re feeling better, Ms. EJ.

@Word

“There are many black men who say they have love for the sistas, but say nothing when a myriad of black men post negative and demeaning comments about us.”

Very true, and he’s not one of them. He has defended black women on a number of occasions on this blog — that’s another reason why he’s an “alien,” lol. Not only does he show his respect for sisters, he shows his grasp of what manhood entails.

@Day

Thank you for the list.

“Would you like to see what black females need to do?????”

Do you mean “black WOMEN?” Haven’t you already posted a list targeting sisters?

@Ms. EJ

“I wonder if they show their mother’s their comments and/or tell them their actual thoughts on black women, I doubt that they do.”

I think some men rationalize that their antipathy for black women is separate from their feelings for their mothers, so they don’t view their vitriol as disrespectful to the women who gave birth to them. They’re talking about “other” black women, not mama.

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 17:15:pm

@WORDTOTHEWISE & SYDNEY- It is hard to understand how some men came be extremely negative on their views towards black women when they were birth out of one. They had to have had some good black women as sisters, aunts and grandmothers. I wonder if they show their mother’s their comments and/or tell them their actual thoughts on black women, I doubt that they do.
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My sister and I were having this very conversation. She believe it stems from their mothers. Maybe their moms were domineering and abusive and they’ve transferred their negative feelings from their mothers to black women in general. There’s really something very wrong. You rarely hear black women unlease such angry, vial, diatribe directed at brothers, yet we all know many of black women have every reason to be bitter, but choose not to blame every black man for the few bad apples.

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Really she is not suppose to start until next year, because her birthday is late in the year, however I worked out something with her school (she goes to a private school)and they allowed her to start early. I’m okay, it is just a road that I have to travel on, but I know next week will be better Thanks girl.

@SYDNEY- Thank you. *ehug* That is just bizzare to me if they actually think that way. SMH.

@WORDTOTHEWISE- I never thought of it in that way and even if so it is still hard to digest.

@Word

“You rarely hear black women unlease such angry, vial, diatribe directed at brothers, yet we all know many of black women have every reason to be bitter, but choose not to blame every black man for the few bad apples.”

It’s so odd to me how some of them can distinguish among women of another race, in terms of their individual characteristics, but cannot — or, rather, will not — do the same for women who share their skin tone.

Hey 6. Hows it goin’?

She was speakin the truth….I love her crazy ass. That fool(Tiger) went on Oprah! as he was making history! and said I’m not black! He has a problem…this really shouldn’t be surpising what he’s caught up in.

Very true. Why is it black American women get upset when an island man only dates island women. But *****ody says anything when jewish people, various asian groups and Latin groups do it. Italians do it the most. *****ody says a peep. But A Jamaican dude has on a flag and all hell breaks loose. LOL
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There are so few decent American black men, they have to claim them. But it’s entirely up to the particular guy whom he chooses to date. If Puertoricans can date their own and snub Dominicans. Jewish can date only jewish people and snub waspy types, them to each his own. It’s cilture. Only a fool thinks they are owed obligation from any other human being.

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 17:30:pm

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Really she is not suppose to start until next year, because her birthday is late in the year, however I worked out something with her school (she goes to a private school)and they allowed her to start early. I’m okay, it is just a road that I have to travel on, but I know next week will be better Thanks girl.
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Ms.EJ, you are so blessed to be able to send Heaven to private school. If I ever have children, that’s the route I want to go. I was in the same position as Heaven. I started kindergarten a year early. She sounds like a smart baby girl

You are very welcome, Ms. EJ. I know the road can get rough. Thank God you have the Him to lean on and His peace to comfort you during the trials and tribulations of life. You know He’ll bring you through it shining like a diamond. Hang in there, sweetie.

I’m getting read to eat. I’ll be back soon.

@Word

IlluminateTruth is another brother poster whose comments are well thought out and enlightening.

I don’t see too many members of IBB (Intellectual Brotha Brigade) post that often anymore. When they do, it’s a treat.

@ Marquis,

cool, cool.

Yanno Marquis its hard trying to convince really ignorant ghetto n*ggas/n*ggettes that RKelly isnt a hero and that he is a child rapist. Why are hoodrats so proud of being stupid? I never can or will understand that sh*t. How can you be proud of keeping it real (Dumb)?

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@WORDTOTHEWISE- Amen!!! sista, because there is nothing like having peace of mind. Private is school so expensive, but worth it. I went to both private and public schools. I learned a lot at both, but I enjoyed private more due to chapel. Heaven is very smart I have to be extra careful, because she is also very observant. Also, I am 5’5 she already (height wise)comes up to my stomach. Oh, do you have any plans for bringing in the New Year? many are booking flights to various places.

I say “to each his own”. IMHO Tiger’s biggest “crime” wasn’t marrying a white woman. It was him getting MARRIED period besides if Tiger was single, he could have avoided all this mess. When a married man cheats, he’s constantly behind the 8 ball.

Goldiggaz/side deals come in all colors, shades, shapes and sizes. When a wife is so quick to divorce her husband so she can get her big pay day instead of trying to work things out, you know for them, it was never about love. Their mind’s on the money and the money’s on their mind. Therefore Kelis is no different to Elin Woods.

Finally, there are no laws that exist where a black man or black woman can’t marry someone out of their own race nor is it a sin. Love should be color blind.

Wazzup, 6?? Sorry bout not speaking, but it’s storming here….What’s good???

Spoke to an asian friend and co-worker today, jokingly asked him why the asians weren’t going through all that “angst” over L’affaire Tiger Woods.

His response “Hell man, that’s strictly a “black thai” affair, bro’. I’m chinese.”

Gotta love the dude.

And frankly I don’t think the thais are losing a bunch of sleep over this either. I very much doubt that thai women are turning this little egotist’s preference in women into some kind of personal affront to them.

I don’t know why EVERYTHING that involves somebody with black blood has to be seen as some kind of affront to anyone except the particular parties in the case. Tiger LONG AGO made it abundantly clear that he wanted to be seen as some kind of “post racial” icon. Good for him. He’s got it. Because from what I can see, people of ALL COLORS are laughing at his phony little a–s–s.

@ Marquis,

After talkin’ on this blog since 02/13/07, I’ve come to the conclusion that bama’s and ghetto azz n*ggas/n*ggettes are dumber than sheep. At 26 it really upsets me that the next generation of black youth will be dumber than this generation. And How can Debra Lee CEO of BET or Emmitt Perry even sleep at night?

I love hearing these stories about Tiger. He forget there is alway balnce in the universe. I say throw some more gas on the fire.

Hey, Halle dated Black men (Eddie Murphy, abusive Wesley Snipe who supposedly left her deaf in one ear, Married Baseball Player David Justice and Eric Benet, etc.) well we know who hurtful & humiliating all of those turned out for Halle. Her mother Married a Black man who left her with 2 mixed babies when Halle was 3. It is time to try something new.
On the other hand, Tiger is mixed as well Black folks. Is he suppose to act like his Asian Thai-mixed Mother and her folks don’t exist? I’m sure this is just Karma for Black women now because they poked fun at him on the playground & wouldn’t give him “Play” in highschool and thought he was some geeky cornball. The nerve of them now jealous that he is attractive to the only women (White) who accepted him during those critical years of development for self-identity & acceptance in high school. Be careful Black women who you diss because corny pays the bills (they tend to become well-educated & successful). Thugs will only leave you humilitated with unwanted kids all over the place, at risk for STDs, and taking you thru unnecessary stress with not only baby mommas drama, but felony arrest with all their criminal activities & shysterness.
Also, didn’t all of Michael Jordan, Shaq, etc. jumpoffs come out of the woodwork as they cheated on their “Black” wives. Give me a break! Color has nothing to do with it! Tiger can like & sleep with who he wants just like any other man who tend to cheat. How would “Cheryl Underwood” explain that? You have to be consistence for the truth not to fall apart! If the theory falls apart than it’s not Truth. Sorry Cheryl but it’s just another joke. You “can’t even keep it real” wearing European or Indian (straight) wigs & weaves.

My New years resolution is to only concentrate on me, my family, my friends and black people who want to better themselves, I can no longer give sage advice to n*ggas who enjoy being n*ggas, i just cant do it anymore! F*ck em!

6

Cuz in this day n’ age, ignorance is a lucrative commodity.

@DAYWALKER I AGREE *IF TIGER CHOOSES TO BE WITH WHITE WOMEN, THAT IS HIS CHOICE*. AND IF DAYWALKER CHOOSES TO BE WITH A DUDE THAT IS YOUR CHOICE

@DAYWALKER- I understand. I can not get into full detail, but personally I did not have an unwanted pregnancy. The tone of your original comment just came off as if you were better. I also included minus those who just do it for the heck of it which falls into the additional points you made, but I totally understand.

bye all, 25 more days of genius then i’m out.

Its6amHoGetOut
12/6/09, 17:53:pm

@ Marquis,

After talkin’ on this blog since 02/13/07, I’ve come to the conclusion that bama’s and ghetto azz n*ggas/n*ggettes are dumber than sheep. At 26 it really upsets me that the next generation of black youth will be dumber than this generation. And How can Debra Lee CEO of BET or Emmitt Perry even sleep at night?
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I’m guesing they sleep fine knowing that the ignorance they spew on the black community never reaches them!! SMH….

nywoman23
12/6/09, 17:56:pm

@DAYWALKER I AGREE *IF TIGER CHOOSES TO BE WITH WHITE WOMEN, THAT IS HIS CHOICE*. AND IF DAYWALKER CHOOSES TO BE WITH A DUDE THAT IS YOUR CHOICE
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No plans with a man, sweetheart!! Still chewing on bricks, I see?? Well the offer still stands, cause I know a good dentist!! Holler when you get ready to get them “Croc teeth” fixed, K???

“Its6amHoGetOut
12/6/09, 17:56:pm

My New years resolution is to only concentrate on me, my family, my friends and black people who want to better themselves, I can no longer give sage advice to n*ggas who enjoy being n*ggas, i just cant do it anymore! F*ck em!”

Good resolution. The best way to help the black community is to lead by example. The progressive will take advantage and follow said “LEAD”, while the weak will stay, flounder, wallow and hope the democrats will toss em’ some “WHITE GUILT” social a$$istance.

@DIRTYSIR. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I DONT KNOW WHATS UP WITH BLACK PEOPLE. IT COULD BE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHEN A PERSON IS MIXED. ILL USE THIS MOLOTTO AS AN EXAMPLE MARIAH CAREY. YET THEY WANT PEOPLE TO JUST CLAIM THEIR BLACK ANCESTRY. WHEN THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.IF A PERSON DESCENDS FROM A MIXED BACKGROUND THEN IT IS WHAT IT IS. Y SHOULD A PERSON DISREGARD A PART OF WHO HE/SHE IS TO SATISFY THE BLACK RACE. SCREW YA TIGER DONT OWE ANYONE ANYTHING. AND THATS COMING FROM A MIXED BLACK WOMAN .TAKE THAT TAKE THAT

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 17:56:pm

@DAYWALKER- I understand. I can not get into full detail, but personally I did not have an unwanted pregnancy. The tone of your original comment just came off as if you were better. I also included minus those who just do it for the heck of it which falls into the additional points you made, but I totally understand.
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Trust me, I have nothing but the utmost respect for a woman who does what’s necessary to support her child!! It’s the ones who don’t that I take issue with, ma…

Later, 6!! As always, you make good valid points, my brother!!

@Sydney™
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Yes — and it got JACKED just like every other frikkin’ one that I have used on this blog.

A million words in the english language, and the “dips” have to jack a screen name.

@Black_Orpheus

“Yes — and it got JACKED just like every other frikkin’ one that I have used on this blog.Yes — and it got JACKED just like every other frikkin’ one that I have used on this blog.”

Alright, I thought I recognized your writing style and recalled that I spoke with you recently.

nywoman23
12/6/09, 18:05:pm

@DIRTYSIR. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I DONT KNOW WHATS UP WITH BLACK PEOPLE. IT COULD BE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHEN A PERSON IS MIXED. ILL USE THIS MOLOTTO AS AN EXAMPLE MARIAH CAREY. YET THEY WANT PEOPLE TO JUST CLAIM THEIR BLACK ANCESTRY. WHEN THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.IF A PERSON DESCENDS FROM A MIXED BACKGROUND THEN IT IS WHAT IT IS. Y SHOULD A PERSON DISREGARD A PART OF WHO HE/SHE IS TO SATISFY THE BLACK RACE. SCREW YA TIGER DONT OWE ANYONE ANYTHING. AND THATS COMING FROM A MIXED BLACK WOMAN .TAKE THAT TAKE THAT
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Mixed?? With what??? (THIS I GOTTA HEAR)….

WakeUpCall:
12/6/09, 18:15:pm

I think they do it because it gives them a reason to hate that which they fail to understand, ma…In short, it’s easier to hate someone than to respect the fact that they enjoy someone of another race’s company in their minds…

WordtotheWise;

Thank you!! Lil Wayne is a poor excuse for a man, and I hate to say it, but the women who bore his offspring are no better….Women should insist on birth control if they aren’t in a committed relationship in my opinion, because he’s on his way to jail right now, but his kids won’t have a father in the meantime….SMH…
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@Daywalker, the sad part is, even with him out of jail, he cannot physically and emotionally be there for his children. People were raving about the fact that he showed up to his daughter’s birthday party skinning and grinning, with the other baby mama, Sarah, and their son. They were saying, “at least he takes care of his kids and loves them.” What? Since when does financially being able to take care of a child equal being a good parent? Of course he loves his children and financially takes care of them. He supposed to. Maybe they just don’t know what a good father looks like. SMH too.

Black_Orpheus(the original not the remake)
12/6/09, 18:10:pm

@Sydney™
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Yes — and it got JACKED just like every other frikkin’ one that I have used on this blog.

A million words in the english language, and the “dips” have to jack a screen name.
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On a completely unrelated note, lovely family!!!

I gotta go, but I enjoyed the conversation, ladies. “Be Real” and “Getting Down,” it was a pleasure chatting with you. Word and Ms. EJ, take care.

Have a great evening, all.

WordtotheWise:

I agree!! Any man can father a child, but it takes a special type of man to raise that child into a responsible adult, ma…..

Sydney™
12/6/09, 18:24:pm

I gotta go, but I enjoyed the conversation, ladies. “Be Real” and “Getting Down,” it was a pleasure chatting with you. Word and Ms. EJ, take care.

Have a great evening, all.
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Would you mind pulling the knives from my back on your way out??? THANKS!!!

@Its6amHoGetOut
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One of the biggest problems with blacks in this country, is that so many think that those who massage their egoes, and make excuses for inexcusable behavior are their ‘friends’ …

Someone who points out that one cannot tell another man or woman “I’m your equal”, then in the next breath say “I don’t want to be held accountable for my actions” is bound to be unpopular. You don’t have to verbalize it, if your every deed expresses it.

You didn’t massage the fragile egoes of the many irresponsible blacks who come on this blog, expecting somebody else to be blamed for everything that went wrong in their lives.

GOOD.

I know truthfully that 80% of the things that have gone wrong in my life are due to MY OWN CHOICES — because I know people from similar backgrounds as mine who have made BETTER choices and had better outcomes.

The 20% over which I had no control is DWARFED by the options that I let slip away, or the bad decisions that I should not have made.

Unless one was born mentally or physically deformed, that is pretty much the way it is.

History is, IMHO, the story of the struggle between the intelligent, the industrious and the inspired (VS.) the ignorant, the indifferent and the irresponsible.

The brutal, unvarnished truth is that we blacks make excuses, far too often, for the many that we have in the LATTER camp — when we should be doing everything that we can to increase the size of the FORMER.

Don’t go “mushy” on me now.

@Daywalker(The Daydream!!!)
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The daughter is the cement that makes it a family —- believe me.

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 17:50:pm

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Amen!!! sista, because there is nothing like having peace of mind.

Absolutely! It can take you through many a dark place with a sense of knowing you will get through it and on the other side, there is something great awaiting you.

Private is school so expensive, but worth it. I went to both private and public schools. I learned a lot at both, but I enjoyed private more due to chapel.

I wished I had attended private school. I hated public school. I went to school in L.A. and HATED IT!

Heaven is very smart I have to be extra careful, because she is also very observant.

Oh yeah! It’s amazing what kids will see when you don’t think they are looking. You sound like a WONDERFUL mother! I tip my hat to you, sweetie.

Also, I am 5′5 she already (height wise)comes up to my stomach.

Wow! She’s tall for her age. Do people think she’s older than 4?

Oh, do you have any plans for bringing in the New Year? many are booking flights to various places.

No. No plans to go anywhere. I take care of my mom full time. She can’t be left alone, so I won’t be going anywhere anytime soon.

What about you?
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It’s simple math & DNA black people. You wouldn’t call or try to sell a a mix-breed dog or horse as full bred (say calling or selling a half pit & half Poodle as Full-blooded PitBull or a Full-blooded Poodle). A store owner would have a lawsuit on their hand. See we can easily accept those facts. White people who say they are not full German but say half-Italian, etc. We have no problem with. Now let our a mix person with some black in them say that and we feel reject and spew anger & hate in return. Let’s get off the so-called black pride crap. We have Black men who will not hold up and provide for their kids and family like they are suppose to. They are constantly putting down their own black women calling them Bi***ches, hos, chick heads, etc.. Then, there is all this Black on Black crimes of killing, mugging, stealing, assault, raping, constantly fighting and putting down each other. I don’t buy that so-called Black Pride/Black Love crap. We are some of the most dysfunctional non-uniting group there is. Let’s keep it real: Seeing others who are mixed or even dating outside their race is about hatred, being insecure, jealousy, envy, etc. Hell, I don’t care who mixed raced Tiger Woods marries or dates. He is just a man like any other who cheats & has jumpoffs. Chris Brown, Usher, Shaq, Kobe, Iverson, MJordan, the list is endless…all did the Tiger Woods, Regis, David Letterman, Prince Charles, etc. Cheating and relationships is not about “Color” black people. It’s about quality of character. Men of various races & religion Cheat. Hating on the Color of Tiger, etc. only exemplifies your weakness, self-hatred and feeling of rejection. Using Tiger’s relationship “is not about Black Pride” as Black People are known to fight, hate, or shoot each other to-the-death. Give me a Break!

Black_Orpheus(the original not the remake)
12/6/09, 18:33:pm

@Daywalker(The Daydream!!!)
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The daughter is the cement that makes it a family —- believe me.
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Much respect, my brother!! If more men felt that way, the world would be a better place!!!

Not all black women are Aunt Jemima, fat or ugly.

Tiger just has “Hoes in different Area Codes”.

He was too stupid to pick the ones that could keep a secret like David Spade said.

His wife should have knocked him upside his head for the following:

1.Embarrassing her and the kids.
2.Choosing bologna when he had steak
3.Choosing burnt out trash.

The ultimate reason is hurting the bank account with utter foolishness. If he did not want to be married he could have D-I-V-O-R-C-E

Okay folks…I’m about outta here….Good luck to all!! Peace!!!

nywoman23
12/6/09, 18:05:pm

@DIRTYSIR. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I DONT KNOW WHATS UP WITH BLACK PEOPLE. IT COULD BE BLATANTLY OBVIOUS WHEN A PERSON IS MIXED. ILL USE THIS MOLOTTO AS AN EXAMPLE MARIAH CAREY. YET THEY WANT PEOPLE TO JUST CLAIM THEIR BLACK ANCESTRY. WHEN THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.IF A PERSON DESCENDS FROM A MIXED BACKGROUND THEN IT IS WHAT IT IS. Y SHOULD A PERSON DISREGARD A PART OF WHO HE/SHE IS TO SATISFY THE BLACK RACE. SCREW YA TIGER DONT OWE ANYONE ANYTHING. AND THATS COMING FROM A MIXED BLACK WOMAN .TAKE THAT TAKE THAT
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Ever heard of the one-drop rule? We (black people) didn’t make that up, sweetie. Take that to the whites of old who decided at one drop of black blood made one black. I don’t care what Tiger is and claims to be. I’m not a fan of his and never considered him black. As you can see during the Obama campaign and presidency, all his mixed race blood doesn’t mean a thing. He’s still a n*gga to them. Whether they claim black is not putting food on my plate. The problem is many of them want to dismiss their blackness in light of their other “mixtures.” Would you be offended at that? How come I suspect you probably wouldn’t.

If all black men in america decided to date only black women I still doubt if anyone would want sheryl ugly mug. And since tiger has white blood in him technically he is dating someone of his culture.

Daywalker(The Daydream!!!)

Hatred? Who hates you, Daywalker. Not me. I may not agree with some of your posts, but there’s no hate involved.

Marquis, you just love to hear yourself ramble, huh? You talk in circles. There’s an old saying that states, “Talking loud, and saying NOTHING.”

You still didn’t answer my questions from your earlier ramble. I figured you wouldn’t.

Here’s a recap:

1. If white women or others were so perfect, why do they get divorced, cheated on, beaten, and abandoned?

2. If you your ilk are so against black women, why do you continue to comment on us. If you’ve moved on, then it shouldn’t matter what black women are doing and how we are doing it.

I’m waiting.

Marquis de Sade – regarding Lil Wayne. I guess your assessment doesn’t including his ASIAN baby mama, Sarah, huh? Oh, and Lauren in mixed, so does that include her as well? You so silly

@MARQUIS DE SADE- Now, you good and well that not all sistas like or date thug men. Truthfully, I deal with gentlemen and that is who and what I like. I love when a man knows how to be sensitive and soft to a woman, but at the same time is a mans’ man.

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Aw..thank you girl. I usually bring it in at church since I was 16, but want to try something different. I might celebrate at home, plus I can see the firework show very well and clear from my living room window. I understand about taking care of a parent, but not the your extent of full time. You are strong I know it can be tough. Longer days shall be added unto you for that

“WordtotheWise
12/6/09, 19:23:pm

Bwaahahaha! Oh, really. Wow! Come up here and tell my ex black male neighbor that. He has two white women (not his wives) suing him for child support. Marquis, you are very sheltered”

There you go again, tryin’ to throw the okey doke. Don’t pretend that you don’t live in the Oregon/Washington area, which has the highest concentration of white baby mamas per capita in the U.S….Like I said, THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE!

wow lotta angry nigglets in here thinking they’re God and can say who does what and why in this world…..you do know all of you sound really stupid right?….Whatever reason Tiger does what he does is the same reason you all do what you do….because he wants to….nigglets want folks to stop hatin’ on them and yet turn right back around to talk about someone else….

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Girl, we have very similar situations and/or experience. This is not my real email, but I would like for us to keep in contact, but email me at lovelye30 (@) yahoo.com so we can really e-chat on somethings. Don’t worry I didn ot include none of my actual information w/this email, but from there I can get your email and email you from my real account. Too many disturbed folks on here lol. Sidenote:before my father passed he use to work for Kasier…girl alot to tell you.

Ms.EJ
12/6/09, 19:43:pm

@WORDTOTHEWISE- Girl, we have very similar situations and/or experience. This is not my real email, but I would like for us to keep in contact, but email me at lovelye30 (@) yahoo.com so we can really e-chat on somethings. Don’t worry I didn ot include none of my actual information w/this email, but from there I can get your email and email you from my real account. Too many disturbed folks on here lol. Sidenote:before my father p*****ed he use to work for Kasier…girl alot to tell you.
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Fabulous! I will email you right now! Oh, you definitely want protect your identity.

Could we quit worrying about who Tiger is bumping? Let’s face it, if he had dated black women, Loquita and Nay-Nay would be trying to get paid right about now, too. Don’t act like we can’t be trifling, too. I agree with Sheryl about the self-hate thing, but the fact is that this situation is just sad. Tiger is one of the world’s greatest athletes and his world is imploding. His marriage, how will this affect his kids and career. It’s just sad.

Now Sheryl… Miss Prez of Zeta Phi Beta. Please refrain from speaking on other folks lest your skeletons lay bare for all to feed upon. Im just sayin.

Riddle me this? What did Sheryl say that was so bad? Isn’t she entitled to comment on the situation like everyone and their mother? Are you going to tell Jay, David, SNL, and nem to refrain from speaking their opinions?

She’s a comedian like the rest of them, so she has every right to weigh in on the situation.

That is all.

Excuse me, what is black then? The people folks call black are pretty much all multiracial. Where do you think we get our different skin tones from? If most of us black people have Native American and white ancestry (myself included), and we are called black, who are the multiracial folks? And if all of us “multiracial” folks are black, then so is Tiger.

Afro-Americans are some of the most confused people i know. I am east african and have lived here in the US all my life yet I am not embraced as an afro-american. I read the comments on here all the name and it is hard to ignore the negative comments hurled at Drake and Rihanna which is simply because they are from different countries. Yet y’all wid ur arrogant selves wanna talk about Tiger not embracing his black side. Who do y’all think u r to decide who is embrace and who u think is not worthy of love and support. Yo tiger do u these people r f–k. Plus the wy half of u women on here act no wonder he is f—- wid white women.

PS: His daddy ain’t no more mixed than your damn average African American.

To be African American is to be at least a drop mixed with something, whether it be Native or White. Hell, that is our gene pool right there!
African, Caucasian of some kind and Native American. That’s what his dad was. Guess what that makes him in the US? AFRICAN AMERICAN

So let me get this straight. Tiger would have been looked at more favorable in black womens eyes if he would have cheated with a couple of black and Asian women.

She’s right to an extent, but who knows the real reason why he only likes white women. Maybe that’s his preference and everyone is allowed to have a preference and date who they want. As far as I’m concerned Tiger doesn’t even identify with being a black man, not that he should.. both his parents are mixed. but whatever let tiger date who he wants. Complaining about a “black man” not dating black women makes no difference. It’s a free country date who u want. Or else, on to the next.

dcgal stand up!

@Inferiority Complex. I totally agree. I’m multiracial, Irish, Italian and Native American. To some African American, its’ the Europeans fault about racists attitudes here, but I’ve live in Europe, and most parts race is just not an issue at all. To me the people who are always talking about color are the ones that are racist.

If you think back a while this whole African American, German American and Whatever American came to be at the same time when POLITICALLY CORRECT was invented. Once upon a time black people were Negroes, then the blacks started calling themselves Black because black was beautiful. Then in the age of Political Correctness blacks were not beautiful anymore and they became African Americans, just like all other Whatever Americans. About Caucasians, the only true Caucasians are the Russians that live in the Caucasus region of southern Russia !

Ummm, the white women can have Tiger, and OJ…I don’t have any desire to be cheated on with a bunch of waitresses, and I don’t have any desire to get my head (almost) cut off. No, I’m very happy with my hubby, thank you very much. And for white women (of whom I have many friends) I’d say, “Stay away from him too, he looks like a fool.”
As far as his issues with self-esteem, it’s very real obviously. Tiger says his father was half Black, a quarter Chinese, and a quarter Native American, even though to most of us, he just looks…Black. But that is his belief. If his father really is ONLY half Black (which I couldn’t know even if i cared to) than it would make sense for him to come up with some stupid term as to his ethnic identity. I look at his dad and see a Black man and look at Tiger and see a person who looks Black and Asian, but what does it matter? There will always be people who are ashamed of who they are, and we just have to learn to pity them, and be happy with who we are. His wealth won’t affect me so I have little interest in what he thinks about himself. Besides, from what I hear he is a bit of a jerk.

Let me clarify that I think it is perfectly fine and acceptable to think of yourself in terms of being multi-raical, and that people are going to have to become more comfortable with that as more and more people are born who are clearly multi-racial. I just think his made up term, Calablasin, or whatever, sounds really cheesy. I’m multi-racial myself, though I think of myself as Black because I grew up around Black people, in a Black church, that was my experience. But I was teased by Blacks for being a “white girl” which always made me cry cause I just wanted to be like everyone else. I’m part Indian, Irish, English, and African, look a helluva lot more mixed than Tiger, but I’m so comfortable with who I am. When my family moved to the moutains and I was around primarily white people, I really stood out, and experienced a lot of racism from some people (though I also made some wonderful friends). I was really happy when we finally moved back to the city where even though I stood out a little, I was always accepted and happy. I’m just happy with me, and when you are, you can only pity those who are not, not to say Tiger isn’t, I don’t know the dude.

@Red Girl If you don’t think Black men have not tortured (set on fire, poured acid on, dismembered or cut the head off, etc.) black women, you are sadly mistaken or conveniently forgotten about Headline News. A lot of black women can tell you of their story with black husbands cheating, STDs, baby mammas etc. Get your head out of the sand. As soon as the economy gets better, you will be singing the same sad story. Just another black woman going thru a divorce & being a struggling single-parent. Cheating is not about color. It’s about a man’s integrity. Men cheat at work & come home like they’re missing their wives, etc. Their are kinds of way for a man to be sneaky and cheat and keep your head in the sand because the truth hurts.

That Lion-Cheetah’s real name is Eldrick Woods. A black name. I say take his stripes away and we will see that Tiger is really a lion-cheetah. (wink-wink)

Cheryl is right…. on sooo many levels. the truth hurts doesn’t it. He doesn’t have to marry a sister or be with a sister but date someone who can identify with your culture and doesn’t have be all fake around people of your own culture.

HEY Y’ALL, WE’VE BEEN HEARING HERE IN THE U.K THAT HE WANTS OPRAH TO BAIL HIM OUT. HE WANTS TO APPEAR ON HER SHOW WITH HIS WIFE TO TRY AND SAVE HIS IMAGE.

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@ joytotheworld.
Oh so now he comes running to 0PRAH A BLACK WOMAN to bail his sorry arse out!!!!!!!!
I hope she ‘says it like it is’ being said on this forum.
She should ask him if he still sees himself as a CAUSAQLIANAMNPNANONNOIAN!!!!!!!!!….LOL.

Just date whoever you are attracted to. There’s no point in being exclusive to one race, especially when they are not exclusive to you. If Tiger wants white women, let him go. There are millions of black, white, biracial, Asian, etc men willing to take his place.

Did you guys all miss Marquis de Sade’s funeral??

He/She died over the weekend from talking too much sh*t.

Then, we had all of his/her family members phoned and found out that they hated him/her just as much as we do. So, they didnt attend.

I went.

And to my surprise……there were NO white people there to see him/her go.

I THOUGHT it would be crawlin’ with the pigmented-challenged folk who he/she bigs up so much.

Empty.

All this kiss-a$$in….we will see who is there when it really means something.

R.I.P Marquis….well, not in FULL peace anyway.

Marqis De Sade..You are precisely the reason that Sistas like me marry white men. Furthermore, I am a proud size 12/14 and I have dated more outside the race than inside the race only because that is what appeals to me. I have dated brothas, but many of them are not feeling natural hair or the fact that I did not have time for men with 50 -11 kids, bad credit and always talking about the MAN keeping him down. I passed on all that nonsense and I have been married to my white King for 14 years.

Tiger is wrong! wrong! wrong! He is a married man and father. He sure is setting his daughter up with a good example. But he is a typical stupid az Negro acting like his D * K is the end all be all of what MAN hood.. is about..

Yeah, he is no different that a racist… Ole’ Tigger…

We need to stop expecting people to set good examples and use our own judgment when making right or wrong decisions. A lot of people play dumb but they aren’t. His situation should not affect any other grown a$$ person is making their own relationship decisions. He is being used as a scape goat because this is really none of our business at the end of the day. Just him and his wife’s.

She mad cause he don’t date donkey’s so she ain’t got a shot.

This ignorance always raises it’s ugly head. He nor anyone else needs the permission of others to date and/or marry who he wishes. This racial divide will never end as long as this premise exist in the small minds in which it dwells.

Do you: Tiger, OJ, Halle, Alfrie, the NBA, the NFL and all others….DO YOU!

only time he is gonna go near a black woman is to use Oprah!!!!!!!!!!

how is a mutt gonna have cultural pride period?

that be my point about black men marrying non black. already society puts our race down but then you procreate with someone who can not perpetuate the pride of our black history or culture.

easiest way to kill a culture is to dilute and infiltrate it.

death of the Black culture

be real you have neevr even seen tiga around black people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or like he even knows any black folks!!!!!!!!!!LOL!!

i got to agree with cheryl on this one, tigers supposed preference for caucasian women is a form of self-hate. Not saying that dating outside of your race means that you dislike your people but in tigers case I think he only goes after them because it is thought to be more socially acceptable. He won’t even admit to the fact that he is black, that his birth certificate lists his ethnicity as black and that his children, despite their having a white mother, are black as well.

everyone is trying to make the situation better by saying that he’s not black because his mother is of asian descent and his father has native American in him. The fact of the matter is that all black Americans are comprised of 18-20% Caucasian blood and 1-3% native American. None of us are ‘completely black’. If we’re going to give him a pass and call him multi-racial then we must give the title to the rest of the American extension of the black race. None of us are ‘purely’ black. Why do people think our skin complexions have such a wide range? It’s not because of some freak accident, it’s genetics.

Black genes are dominant, meaning that regardless of whether or not one of your parents is of another race you will still ‘appear’ to be black. Nothing separates tiger from the rest of us except himself. Put him next to an average black man or woman and you will find no difference between the two because there is no difference. I hate it when people try to use genetic diversity as a means to place one being above another, when the truth of matter is that we all possess diverse backgrounds and family histories. If no one knew that his mother was from Thailand, no one would guess it because he doesn’t appear to be anything other than what the rest of us are.

As far as the people who are saying that he’s only dating white women because black women are ‘ghetto, angry, overweight, unattractive, lazy, don’t use birth control, etc.’ allow me to point out the fact that those same traits exist within each and every other race in this country. The fact of the matter is that the highest demographic on welfare is white women between the ages of 18-44(they make up 39% of welfare users). The fact of the matter is that the race with the highest birth rate are those of latino descent. Look it up if you choose not to believe me.

quit being racists, it displays your lack of intelligence. I say to you go pick up a book and learn something.

My goodness, all I’m hearing is whinning! If we go off of this womans theory, then I guess men who only date “women” should also try to date other “men”. If he prefers white women, so be it. It seems that the majority of you have a problem with that, not Tiger.

I LOVE THE TRUTH…

1st of all “some” Becky’s will date anything black, women or man etc. I’m a straight woman of color and have been followed out of the club by mulitple “straight” Becky’s that just want to get with someone of color. Some of them have no shame. So Tiger could get it even if he was broke and homeless.

Tiger’s half white, whats the problem with him having a thing for white women?

So… Let me get this straight!? If I play the guitar for a rock band then it’s ok if I don’t date black men because I am not exposed to them!?!? Do you see how dumb that sounds? I certainly hope you do. Hell if that’s the case he certinaly wouldn’t have been exposed to his server/nanny wife so don’t even try that not exposed to black women bit!!GTFOH!!!

Ugly Sheryl Underwood always has problems with BM and WW, these ttypes of BW are dangerous and hate BM anyway, especially if we don’t obey them.