Filing a complaint……SMH

2nd but is it news???? NEXT

My city is crazy

Thats how about 80% of police force in DC behave anyway. No shock here. The whole system is corrupt …

(coughs)
Adrian Fenty & Chief K. Rainer

I think it’s safe to say that he loves his Hummer. A lot!!

Can you imagine being his wife or girlfriend and you wrecked it? You probably be pushing up daisies. LOL!!

SEE IN THIS IS WHY THEY DONT NEED TO BE THE POLICE,THIS IS WHY,SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIRE
HIS DUM A?SS REAL REAL TALK

Yup, just saw the Washington Post story. This did take place on U Street. The yuppies aren’t having tolerating it — That young woman was serious when she took down his name and badge number.

SEE IN THIS IS WHY THEY DONT NEED TO BE THE POLICE,THIS IS WHY,SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIRE
HIS DUM A?SS REAL REAL TALK

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SEE IN THIS IS WHY THEY DONT NEED TO BE THE POLICE,THIS IS WHY,SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIRE
HIS DUM A?SS REAL REAL TALK

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From washingtonpost.com:

On Sunday, the officer was placed on desk duty after Twitter, blogs and YouTube appeared to show otherwise.

If the final investigation shows the officer pulled his weapon after being pelted with snowballs, D.C. Assistant Chief Pete Newsham, head of the investigative services bureau, said that “would not be a situation in which a member [of the force] would be justified.”

“We have to see what the entire circumstance was,” Newsham said Sunday. “But just a snowball fight, not in my mind. That doesn’t seem a situation where we would pull out a service weapon.”

He’s done. Merry Christmas!

I have to laugh at the line, “don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight.” He tried to muscle the wrong people, lol.

*yuppies aren’t tolerating it*

I think this guy was a bit overzealous about brandishing his weapon. So what someone pelted his little gas-guzzler with a snowball? I think he should have just kept it moving. It’s not like they were throwing rocks or anything – his vehicle wouldn’t have been damaged. I think he just wanted to smash some heads and didn’t realize the cameras were rolling.

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them yuppies wouldn’t play that over in the
greater S.E. WASHINGTON

Why is it so common for police officers to escalate a situation instead of diffusing it? It’s like they’re looking for an excuse to crack skulls. Every city in this country needs citizen oversight of its police force so that unstable officers aren’t permitted to act with impunity, which is what happens when law enforcement is left to govern itself.

You know these got to be ‘yuppies’ cause only they have the balls to continue to talk trash after a brother pulls a gun. Had it been myself, and 200 others LIKE myself, he would have won that fight. That corner would have been cleared out.

Whoa there! Over compensating much?

He’s a damn fool and should be placed under arrest himself for brandishing a firearm with no just cause…He better leave on his own will cuz the city will RIOT over this mess and questionable run-ins with the law!

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I hope this indignant loon gets is badge taken away!!!

I live in DC, and this story is several days old

Thank you LAW&Order Finally someone who understands what a lot of us understood that day. Most of you are probably not even in DC making your comments. no one is looking at the big picture. These were adults who acted like MOBS, they did not care if you were part of the fight or not, you got hit. People were coming out of this cleaners near by, and were pelted with ice balls. How would you like to be in your good clothes, coming out of a store and get snowballs blasted at you. They need to grow up, and accept that they did not demonstrate a best practice PERIOD. And there is nothing that wopuld constitute the officer being arrested, so you can cancel Christmas waiting on that one. I hate police brutality, and unjust cops as much as anyone. But let’s not cry that this time, because that certainly is not the case.

Kaithizzle and Law and Order are the only ones with common sense. All these people who think the crowd did ntohing wrong and it was just a snowball fight, imagined if they threw something at u or ur loved one and they had an accident? PEOPLE STOP BEING SO DUMB IT’S NOT A GOOD LOOK

DC Police are the WORST!!

@Kai
I’m from DC and perhaps you are not aware but they (DC Cops) will abuse their authority at the expense of other ppls lives so that is why the most of us are agaisn’t him brandishing a gun he could’ve simply radio’d in and had uniformed officers come out and make the crowd orderly but no he wanted to take the law into his own hands…

NOW HE WILL BE FORCED TO SELL HIS HUMMER!!!

@ADATMISEH

Im not saying the people were not wrong. I would love to see some white people get locked up. But snowball fights in the District go back before “Cool Disco Dan”. Oh my goodness and dont be a Metro Bus Driver..lol. But seriously I just have a negative perception of DC police officers period. Not all but lot of them are pompous jerks. I have had my run -ins with them in the past myself, and not from my wrong doing…

And while we are on topic-let that be you who the cop pulled a gun on? Especially if you had nothing to do with the snowball fight-Waving a gun is not going to control the crowd as you have witnessed!

“Let me get this straight. . .This “detective” drew his gun in front what appears to me to be a bunch of yuppies on U Street (that’s U Street, right) because he didn’t *like being his Hummer being* pelted by snow*****?”

“The yuppies aren’t *having* tolerating it”

Ok, two grammatical errors in a row? Hmmm, sounds like someone been spikin’ their egg nog with some Capt. Morgan early in the mornin’, huh?

Considering it was such a big crowd, he should of just got his Hummer and him out of there. It seems everybody was there for fun, not anything devious. So his hummer got hit by snowballs. Cheez, if a hummer can’t withstand being hit by a few snowballs, for the price your pay, he needs to return that jeep.

I guess it kinda depends on which side u would see urself on. Either u would be a part of the MOB throwing snowballs thinking it’s fun and think the police overreacted and should be fired, or you can imagine yourself being an innocent bystander and being ASSAULTED or something that could cause you to have an accident and give the Detective a little credit for using force. I grew up in NYC, Halloween was not a fun time if you weren’t a child. No one likes to be assaulted when they’re minding their own business. I don’t KNOW u, don’t throw anything at me!!!! You don’t know how certain people would react, so thats why it would be in ur best interest to leaves folks alone…not everyone can be sane like yall lol

The reality of this situation (and I live in DC) is we have so many “I didn’t mean to shoot him/her” in this city that it’s ridiculous. The shootings end up “justified.” Now, what this situation says to me is, “If I pull out my gun and brandish my f’d up attitude — pissed or not — if I catch someone in an alley appearing as if they are involved in criminalistic activities, then I will shoot your azz with no apprehension nor witnesses.” Do the math. Muck a cop.

I agree with Law&Order. The crowd was incredibly out of line and out of order. They could have caused a really bad accident. I love how people bash the police yet when they’re in danger…they look for help from the authorities. I’ve never had a problem with police in the D.C. area. I think the officer pulled his weapon out to scare those people. I don’t think he should be fired, rather the organizers of the fight should be.

What’s crazy to me is everyone saying the crowd was outta control then why didn’t the cops get called until the Crazed Undercover Cop showed up waving his gun- it was not reported by any other passerby’s that the crowd was out of control I’m certain had it been there would have 15-50 cop vehicles out there!

@Ram
The organizers of the SNOWBALL fight,now let’s be real this was a snowball fight, not a mobbed enthused beating-a SNOWBALL fight…where should they be fired from? And to those who are okay with a undercover officer waving his gun at his discretion I feel for you-Like I said he should’ve called for back up he chose to be the vigilante and threaten folks with this gun

@Redd
Hearing about your personal encounters shake me cuz these COPS are people too and I don’t even want to talk about the 17 year old killed on a mini bike by an officer of the law-Im like come on now-that story still irritates me!

What if someone in the crowd also had a firearm and had decided to confront the detective? Then a situation that could have been resolved without violence could have very quickly turned into a much deadlier scenario.

Officers are not allowed to pull their guns whenever they lose their cool, and for good reason. It’s an inexcusable abuse of power that can end in tragedy.

Choco
12/21/09, 13:47:pm

@Redd
Hearing about your personal encounters shake me cuz these COPS are people too and I don’t even want to talk about the 17 year old killed on a mini bike by an officer of the law-Im like come on now-that story still irritates me!
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Yeah I know thats the main incident you were referring to, that was really sad. As a matter of fact that boy was 14 I think. Even when there were numerous eye witness accounts that the lil boy didnt have a gun the officers still got off..smh

@Redd
Right that is the main incident and now hearing that he was 14-and it’s okay for a cop to get angry at a snowball fight-what other excuse will we make for them-they are HUMAN – to be human is to err…but they keep it up folks gonna be actin just like the undercover officer did-which is why he should be punished severely in order to let folks know waving a gun for the h-e-l-l of it is INTOLERABLE!

@Choc,

I do understand about the whole DC police abusing power, but in this case I think the crowd were just as guilty at causing this issue. If they had just said “my bad for hitting your car” or “Sorry sir” things could have been avoided. I mean come on now Choc, after all, they did hit his car. And then when he got out they hit him. Don’t you see where they were at fault at all.

No one should take out a gun unless they plan on using it, I am sure that he saw what was going on prior to approaching the place where he stopped.

That is just an abuse of power and his *** should be fired for incompetence if he cant respond rationally to this what the hell is he going to do in a situation that requires more thought, fire his stupid ***

@Kai
First I’m not starting rumors wave, exposing however you wanna term it-he shouldn’t have done that with the gun period. He should’ve called for back up why would one man-in undercover get out of his vehicle in the middle of a crowd? A man who lives by his gun! Yeah they were wrong to throw snowballs but I’m not stupid enuf to get out of my car I’m calling 5 0…
@Syd
Right he was actin strait hood when he was in that guys face-like what made him so mad..

@Choco

“Right he was actin strait hood when he was in that guys face-like what made him so mad..”

LOL, I was going to use another term (begins with “g” and ends with “o”). He was a little too aggressive with that gun at his side. Like I said before, he picked the wrong people to try to intimidate.

i was born/raised/live in D.C. all of the cops act like this. they think they’re gods gift to the community.

@KaiTHIZZLE

I agree with you, and I think the snowball throwers should have been deterred from pelting uninvolved bystanders and vehicles. But there is no excuse for a trained officer with a weapon to allow his emotions to get the best of him in this manner. This is how tragedy happens, and it has happened on far too many occasions in the District and in other cities across the nation.

“THE THING IS THAT HE WAS PLAIN CLOTHED. I DOUBT THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT IF HE WAS IN A CRUISER-YUPPIES OR NOT.”

And therein lies a major issue with this situation. It wasn’t initially apparent to members in the crowd that this was a detective who had displayed a gun, and I think that’s a source of a lot of the outrage. His behavior wasn’t befitting that of a veteran of the force.

I just saw it in YouTube . . . WTF?? over snowballs?? he should resign after that!

ABSOLUTELY SYDNEY, I AGREE. AND I ALSO WANT TO LEND MENTION TO ALL OF THE FRUSTRATED PEOPLE WHO HAD TO DEAL WITH THE YUPPIES. ALL THE PEOPLE WHO GOT HIT FOR NO REASON. THEY NEED A VOICE, AND THEY ARE BEING IGNORED BECAUSE OF THE ACT OF YUPPIES AND AN OFFICER.

I just read a post on a local TV site that states that prior to the confrontation, there were other police officers on the scene who were observing the snowball fight and were even taking photos. Interesting.

EXACTLY SYDNEY, AND LIKE I SAID IF THOSE WEE BLACK GUYS THROWING SNOW BALLS, THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN HARRASSED AND TOLD TO DISBURSE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY POLICE AND EVEN CITIZENS NEED TO BE RWEQUIRED TO GO THROUGH ALL TYPES OF TRAINING. AND I MEAN TRAINING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PHYSICAL MANNEUVERS. WHITE POLICE ARE LESS AFRAID OF WHITE MEN, THEY ARE SO AT EASE, WHICH IN ITSELF CAN BE DANGEROUS. BECAUSE THEY ELT THEIR GUARD DOWN AROUND WHITE PEOPLE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN THEM MISSING THE OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT A CRIME. AND THEY ARE TOO ANXIOUS AROUND BLACK PEOPLE, WHICH COULD RESULT IN INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING HARRASSED OR WORSE.

@KaiTHIZZLE

According to some accounts of people who were there, there were already police officers on the scene. If bystanders wanted to file a complaint with one of them, they could have.

I can’t help but notice the irony of all of this. When I was in NYC some years ago during a major snowstorm, I saw people skiing down mostly empty streets and enjoying the wintry peace. Only in D.C. does a snowfight became an armed confrontation. SMH.

*a snowfight become an armed confrontation*

The detective was wrong and stupid for pulling his gun. If he wanted to push them around or yell at them, fine…that’s his anger problem. But to pull a gun is ridiculous.

@KaiTHIZZLE

You brought up an interesting point about the need for diversity training for police. In reading about this incident, it appears that at least one person (or more) called 911 after the plainclothes detective brandished a gun. A white officer then showed up at the scene with his gun displayed. By his actions, the detective also put his own safety at risk.

I think the fact that this guy chose to brandish his gun rather than his badge at unarmed civilians says everything about his attitude,hotheadedness and arrogance.

@KaiTHIZZLE

Yes, I think you’re right. The snowball fight participants see themselves as having some harmless fun. I think that area of the city (U Street/Adams Morgan) has a certain population (particularly with gentrification) that invites these sorts of activities. I’m not a D.C. native, but during the time I’ve lived in the area, I’ve seen other impromptu festivities along that corridor. There were many revelers, for example, who took to the streets on Election Night last November.

Yes, I’m sure (or I would hope) the detective sees the folly of his actions now. The story has made international headlines and Mayor Fenty, along with Police Chief Cathy Lanier, must be displeased with the negative publicity. I would be surprised if there’s no further action taken against him.

As for the yuppies, they may not recognize it, but they just received a taste of the reality that a number of residents in other areas of the city face on a daily basis.

I remember that case, Choco. That occurred in PG County, right? That was so sad. I think that officer (I think he was actually in a higher position — checking) also had a history of domestic violence. What was the outcome of that shooting?

Hi Syd
Hello Choco!!

I think former police Cpl. Keith Allen Washington was his name. He was sentenced to prison for involuntary manslaughter. He was also a former Homeland Security official. Very sad case.

@Day

“Even though I have a general dislike for them, he was right to attempt to make then disperse!!”

He was right to draw his gun?

@Syd
One of the delivery men were killed and the other one was able to be a witness and testify and that damn Officer for lack of a better term looked SICK in his head-

Wsup Day!

Matter of fact, I woulda slung their azzes in the pokey for “Public Endangerment”, and anything else I coulda thought up….What a bunch of losers!!

If a detective would brandish his gun in front of participants in a snowball fight, who knows what he is capable of in another type of incident that rouses his anger. In another, less public setting, he could have fired his weapon.

He deserves to lose his job.

Yeah Day I disagree with you he did not have a right to draw his gun his right was to call in for back up!

“Who’s to say that someone didn’t recognize him from a previous arrest??”

So he may have been pelted with snowballs because one of his former suspects was in the menacing crowd? Oh, the terror.

*s-n-o-w-b-a-l-l-s*

@Day
I’m surprised to hear you would trump up charges on someone-Public endangerment for snowball fight I see your argument just a little surprised…

I think I’m glad you’re not one of the men in blue, Day, lol.

@Day
He didn’t stop them for their own good he stopped them becuz his truck was hit and it was mentioned there were other cops there observing and snappping photos

@Day

Police are trained to handle such situations without the display of weapons, and the D.C. police chief herself said as much today in a statement. ‘Nuff said.

Choco
12/21/09, 16:33:pm
@Day
I’m surprised to hear you would trump up charges on someone-Public endangerment for snowball fight I see your argument just a little surprised…
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That’s not trumping up a charge…Someone elderly could have been seriously hurt or killed if they landed the wron way from a fall on the ice, ma…
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Sydney™
12/21/09, 16:34:pm
I think I’m glad you’re not one of the men in blue, Day, lol.
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Actually, when I was active duty, I used to do “Physical Security” onbase…Basically the same thing as being a police officer, but you patrol government property…And yes, I would have locked all their azzes up, stayed over to do the paperwork, and let their azzes rot!! If they don’t care enough to keep their activities to a limited area such as a park or their own back yards, so that innocent bystanders wouldn’t be involved, then I wouldn’t care enough not to throw them in jail!! Real talk!!

BUT THATN IS MY POINT SYDNEY, IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT HE WAS AN OFFICER FOR THEM TO STOP THROWING AT HIM OR OTHERS. THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO THROW THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. THESE WHITE COPS WHO WERE ALLEDGEDLY WITNESSING THIS, WERE JERKS AND SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR ALLOWING A POSSIBLE RIOT TO OCCUR. LIKE I SAID SOME PEOPLE ARE QUICK TO ANGER. SOME GUYS CARE ABOUT THEIR PROPERTY MORE THAN THEIR GIRLS. WHAT WOULD THE COPS HAD DONE IF SOMEONE HAD GOTTEN HIT WHILE DRIVING THEIR VEHICLE WITH THEIR WINDOW DOWN, GOT OUT AND BUST ONE OF THOSE YUPPIES IN THE MOUTH. THEN THE COPS WOULD HAVE ARRESTED THE THE PERSON WHO GOT OUT OF HIS CAR RIGHT. THIS IS WROOOOOOONG YALL, SO PLEASE FACE FACTS. IF THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE STREETS OBSTRUCTING TRAFFIC, NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

@Syd
No the one on TNT isn’t african american but they did a great job in my opinion I mean really good—
@Day
Well reading Syd’s comments and already knowing the heat the DC police get becuz of their negligence maybe you could see another side-cuz even the DC Chief of Police knows this fool acted inappropriately!

@KaiTHIZZLE

Apparently, the officers who were witnessing the snowfight didn’t perceive a “riot” underway. And I’m not sure how much traffic was on the street that day, given that it was one of the worst snowstorms in recent memory in the DMV and people were strongly discouraged from driving. A few inches can bring the area to a standstill, and the forecast for the weekend was far higher.

Some officers should not be allowed to wear a badge. This cop drew his gun only because a snowball hit his Hummer, not because a civilian or himself was in danger and that is totally uncalled for. His actions was way out of line, and he should definitely be punished.

Hummers must be worth more than life these days.

@Day

“Actually, not enough said…I’m willing to bet dollars to doughnuts that nothing happens to the detective as a result of this….”

He’s already on desk duty, from what I’ve read.

“As for her statement, trust me, it’s nothing more than damage control on her part due to the fact that caucasians were involved….”

And that’s all it will take for him to wind up losing his job.

@Choco

“Well reading Syd’s comments and already knowing the heat the DC police get becuz of their negligence maybe you could see another side”

Exactly, neither the police department nor the city can afford more negative publicity, and the story has gone viral and has been picked up by overseas news outlets.

OK SYDNEY…THOSE WHITE COPS WHO ALLOWED THIS..BUT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE STOPPED BLACKS FROM DOING THE SAME THING WERE RIGHT. THOSE YUPPIES WHO THREW SNOW AT INNOCENT PEOPLE AND CARS WERE RIGHT…..BUT THE DETECTIVE WHO GOT OUT OF HIS CAR AFTER IT BEING HIT, AND THEN HE WAS HIT, WAS WRONG TO BRANDISH HIS WEAPON. I KOW YOU ARE GOING TO SAY YOU ARE NOT SAYING THEY WERE RIGHT, BUT YOU ARE MOST CERTAINLY NOT SAYING THEY WERE WRONG. ALL YOU HAVE DONE WAS TO JUSTIFY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. I WONDER WHAT YOU WOULD BE SAYING IF NO COPS WERE INVOLVED, AND ONE OF THOS EYUPPIES WOULD HAVE HIT SOMEONE, AND MADE THEM FALL INTO THE STREETS AND GOT HIT BY A CAR AND KILLED. WHAT WOULD YOU BE SAYING THEN SYDNEY. THIS IS TOO FUNNY TO ME.

@KaiTHIZZLE

If there was a danger to the public safety being displayed, the crowd should have been peacefully dispersed. I’m guessing that it wouldn’t have taken gunfire to get them to drop their snowballs, pick up some lattes at Starbucks, and head home.

And I don’t think my point is being understood. If Det. Baylor can show this much force during a snowfight, what else is he capable of? What if he comes across someone who looks like you or me whom he perceives as a threat?

I think there will be disciplinary action stronger than this one-yuppies are filing complaints he will be tested for his sanity as well trust he started all sorts of mess with this one!

@Syd
That’s what Im saying those who are defending this Det’s action don’t understand what has been going on around the DMV when it comes to COPS…they can’t understand your point becuz they can’t relate….and I know for certain had there been an incling of a riot the friggin Federal Reserves would’ve been called…they were having fun and no one was hurt so that point is totally MOOT!

Another point to make is the Detective admission Yes I pulled my gun-he didn’t care then and still don’t-he needs a pychiatrist!

Sydney™
12/21/09, 16:56:pm

So please do allow me to get this straight…You’re saying that the possibility did not exist for someone to get hit by a car, slip, fall and potentially injure or be killed as a result from cranial injuries due to their negligence did not exist?? Please do respond, Sydney….

get injured or be killed*(typo)

@Day
No one was really driving out and about on that day believe that-the snowball fight would’ve been able to occur if there was traffic like that-the cops were there and taking photos-people were simply having fun!

@Choco

I think there will be disciplinary action stronger than this one-yuppies are filing complaints he will be tested for his sanity as well trust he started all sorts of mess with this one!
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They should file them. If me or you or anyone else or their children was in the predicament, they would be upset with the cop too. They would not just walk away not upset after having a gun pulled on them. There lying if they say otherwise. This man was not in any kind of danger. He ONLY pulled his gun after his car was hit. Trigger happy people should not be cops.

@Choco

“and I know for certain had there been an incling of a riot the friggin Federal Reserves would’ve been called…they were having fun and no one was hurt so that point is totally MOOT!”

Particularly in post-9/11 D.C., any threat of a riot would quickly be addressed, I would hope.

@Day

Thank you for your clarification.

I’m saying that if the threat to the safety of the public — most of whom, I think, heeded the repeated warnings to not venture out during the blizzard — were that high, the officers in the vicinity should have cracked down on such perceived dangers. Again, U Street is one of the areas of the city that is regularly patrolled (I’ve always seen officers on hand when I’ve gone down there).

I don’t see how one angry detective who overreacted to his Hummer being victimized by snowballs helped the situation one iota.

you are all right!!! he shouldn’t have gotten out of his vehicle, he should’ve drove off like nothing happened and then some idiot would eventually hit someone else causing them to get angry and then that person would come out the car and whoop that other person’s a.ss and a huge riot would incite and then evryone would say “well, where were the cops” and then we would’ve said “they were right there taking pictures an s.h.it ” everyone expect the cops to know better and do better WHICH THEY SHOULD but y can’t ADULTS do the same? if they were some kids then it’s a completely different story…but ADULTS gimme a frikkin break, let it go, ur childhood is gone…be responsible, go throw snowba.lls and rocks and frozen eggs and whatever u want…on ur own private property!!! dont take that s.h.it on a street where lives can be endangered. those ‘yuppies’ should be fined!!!
errbody know black people dont like the snow no dam way

@Nina
Im with you this fool needs to be removed from the force it’s obvious he’s dealing with other issues-he’s bad right so he gonna take on the whole crowd just him and his gun!

I would be extremely upset if a police pulled a gun on my child if they were on the streets having a good time and throwing snowba.lls. and then again i would beat the s.hit out my child for throwing snowballs in the streets. n.i.gg.a i don’t give a f.u.ck!!! let somebody come tell me due to my child playing someone eventaully got hurt…no parent would like that. it’s all fun and games until u hit a black man’s v…a black man with a legal piece at that

It was only snowballs! Wow what an arse.

Let’s try this again: It was only snow b.a.l.l.s. What an a.r.s.e.

“But at the same time, the second they pelted his vehicle with snow *****, they infringed upon his rights to enjoy said vehicle….”

Now this made me chuckle, lol.

@Daywalker

Personally, if it had been me, I would have called a paddy wagon and arrested all their azzes for disrespecting an officer!! I wouldn’t have drawn my weapon, but I can *****ure you they would have gotten their azzes sent downtown!!
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You would have done things differently and your saying you don’t agree with what the cop did. So you would have done things another way, and your saying he was guilty and should be charged? If he is charged for pulling his weapon, he would deserve it?

he didn’t, and if i wasn’t a part of it i wouldn’t wanna be hit either…police or no police. for real if u wanna have fun throw stuff at everyone who is willingly participating not strangers who are DRIVING

i’m so glad i’m natural, i aint scared a noooo water

” it’s all fun and games until u hit a black man’s v…a black man with a legal piece at that”

LOL, seriously, it reminded me of that scene in “Training Day” in which Denzel takes on a crowd and admonishes them, “King Kong ain’t got nuthin’ on me.” That detective took on all those people by himself. Now I don’t think he would have taken the same action if there were a similar snowfight in Southeast. I think he would have continued driving that Hummer, IMHO.

@ADATMISEH

I don’t think the situations are analogous. In the D.C. incident, you have snowballs being thrown during a blizzard while other police officers are observing. And the person who was pelted with snowballs is a trained officer of the law, not a civilian.

*a-n-a-l-o-g-o-u-s*
*s-n-o-w-b-a-l-l-s*

Nina K.
12/21/09, 17:27:pm
@Daywalker

Personally, if it had been me, I would have called a paddy wagon and arrested all their azzes for disrespecting an officer!! I wouldn’t have drawn my weapon, but I can *****ure you they would have gotten their azzes sent downtown!!
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You would have done things differently and your saying you don’t agree with what the cop did. So you would have done things another way, and your saying he was guilty and should be charged? If he is charged for pulling his weapon, he would deserve it?
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What I’m saying is that he deserves a reprimand for “excessive force” be put in his record…No one was injured, no one was hurt, luckily, but at the same time, what he did showed poor judgement on his part…I’ve seen white officers get less than that, so why not do the same for a black one?? And no, I wouldn’t terminate a good cop just because they made a poor choice….

@Daywalker

I’m sorry about what happened to you, but what does your story have to do with the article? Are you seriously trying to compare an angry man approaching your car and violating your rights with a cop pulling his gun for civilians throuwing snow at his car?

@Daywalker

What I’m saying is that he deserves a reprimand for “excessive force” be put in his record…No one was injured, no one was hurt, luckily, but at the same time, what he did showed poor judgement on his part…
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I agree. His action should not be excused. You have to wonder when he will pull his gun out again. A lot of innocent people are dead cause of trigger happy cops.

*throwing*

maybe the cop had a bad day, he’s human he’s permitted. but i can’t condone people throwing things at strangers and getting away with it. i hear u he should’ve acted in a better manner. like daywalker’s story, this is the reason why u dont hara.ss strangers. throw the snowba.ll at ur friends who are participating. not everyone is the same, dont expect evryone to react similar. for those who say it’s just a snowba.ll…if ur walking/driving minding ur business u may not appreciate someone throwing something/anything at u. THE MORAL OF THIS STORY IS CRAZY DOESN’T DISCRIMATE WHEN IT COMES TO CAREER CHOICES, DON’T MESS WITH PEOPLE U DON’T KNOW!!! whats fun for u may not be fun for me

Nina K.
12/21/09, 17:53:pm
@Daywalker

I’m sorry about what happened to you, but what does your story have to do with the article? Are you seriously trying to compare an angry man approaching your car and violating your rights with a cop pulling his gun for civilians throuwing snow at his car?
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I’m not saying he was right, but I can understand his mentality….Allow me to clarify my point?? HE WAS WRONG FOR THE COURSE OF ACTION HE TOOK…However, I can sympathize with his feelings…He was minding his own business, and he and his property got assaulted…In my situation, a similar thing happened, but the way it was done was even more of an azzault than what Officer Baylor experienced…Had it have been me, I would have called in backup and commenced Mirandizing and arresting people till I got the right ones…And if they didn’t want to co operate, they would have been in jail as accessories till they did….But that’s me, not him!! LOL!!

ADATMISEH
12/21/09, 18:01:pm
maybe the cop had a bad day, he’s human he’s permitted. but i can’t condone people throwing things at strangers and getting away with it. i hear u he should’ve acted in a better manner. like daywalker’s story, this is the reason why u dont hara.ss strangers. throw the snowba.ll at ur friends who are parti*****ting. not everyone is the same, dont expect evryone to react similar. for those who say it’s just a snowba.ll…if ur walking/driving minding ur business u may not appreciate someone throwing something/anything at u. THE MORAL OF THIS STORY IS CRAZY DOESN’T DISCRIMATE WHEN IT COMES TO CAREER CHOICES, DON’T MESS WITH PEOPLE U DON’T KNOW!!! whats fun for u may not be fun for me
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Exactly!!

Seems like organizers should have been required to have a permit for something like this.

Actually, I got that wrong….I would have arrested all their azzes, and prayed that one of them would have resisted arrest!!

“At the same time, “Civillians” should not disrespect an officer of the law when they have been informed of such!! I would have arrested all their azzes, and laughed the entire time I was doing it….”

Well, go on, Sheriff Daywalker! Why don’t you round up all ‘em rabblerousers? Teach ‘em a little something about civil behavior in the snow. Hmph!

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memchee
12/21/09, 18:08:pm
Seems like organizers should have been required to have a permit for something like this.
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Hi, Memchee!! I couldn’t agree more, hun!!!!

I think you’d need more than one paddy wagon, though. There were a few hundred of those rabble-rousers out there, from what I read. Scofflaws!

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:16:pm
“At the same time, “Civillians” should not disrespect an officer of the law when they have been informed of such!! I would have arrested all their azzes, and laughed the entire time I was doing it….”

Well, go on, Sheriff Daywalker! Why don’t you round up all ‘em rabblerousers? Teach ‘em a little something about civil behavior in the snow. Hmph!
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I would have had no problem doing that, Sydney…As I said before: I would have called in backup, told them to cease and decist, and if the moron who threw the one snowball would have done it, I can promise you hia azz would have gone downtown for azzaulting an officer!! I was doing PS at SUB BASE, Groton, CT. And I can promise you, I didn’t give a damn if you were purple!! If you were wrong, and I had to get dressed, and drive to where you were, that was yo azz!! And god forbid I had to chase ya!!!

@Daywalker

He was minding his own business, and he and his property got *****aulted…In my situation, a similar thing happened, but the way it was done was even more of an azzault than what Officer Baylor experienced…+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If someone on U Street had approached the cop and intented to azzault the cop and his car then your story would make sense, since you said someone approached your car out of anger. Your comparison does not make sense.

@Day

“As I said before: I would have called in backup, told them to cease and decist, and if the moron who threw the one snowball would have done it, I can promise you hia azz would have gone downtown for azzaulting an officer!!”

Well, I agree with you — It’s not the rapists, murderers, thieves, drug dealers, et cetera who threaten the fine citizens of D.C. It’s those goshdarn snowball throwers. Lock ‘em up!

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:18:pm
I think you’d need more than one paddy wagon, though. There were a few hundred of those rabble-rousers out there, from what I read. Scofflaws!
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I wouldn’t have cared if I neede 30!! Their azz woulda been rotting till somebody fessed up!! They woulda been there till I got done typing my report up, any ways!!! The more info I would have gotten, the faster I woulda typed…And if it took me 2 weeks to do it, Oh, well!!! I don’t care about your job, I don’t care that you need to get back to your family!! You chose to break the law, so you can suffer as a result!! Makes no diffefence to me!!!

Well, go on, Sheriff Daywalker! Why don’t you round up all ‘em rabblerousers? Teach ‘em a little something about civil behavior in the snow. Hmph!
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I think her tongue was planted in her cheek.

Take care Daywalker Sydney Choco ADATMISEH and everybody I am missing.

Nina K.
12/21/09, 18:24:pm
@Daywalker

He was minding his own business, and he and his property got *****aulted…In my situation, a similar thing happened, but the way it was done was even more of an azzault than what Officer Baylor experienced…+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If someone on U Street had approached the cop and intented to azzault the cop and his car then your story would make sense, since you said someone approached your car out of anger. Your comparison does not make sense.
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Did you see the part of the film where the one white guy threw a snowball at the officer?? then proceeded to call him a pig???

That constitutes an azzault, ma….Clear as day….

@Day

“And if it took me 2 weeks to do it, Oh, well!!! I don’t care about your job, I don’t care that you need to get back to your family!! You chose to break the law, so you can suffer as a result!! Makes no diffefence to me!!!”

That’s right. If it took a month to type up the reports on those snow-throwing scofflaws, it’s worth every penny of taxpayers’ money.

@Nina K.

LOL, yes, you’re right. Take care.

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:27:pm

Well, I agree with you — It’s not the rapists, murderers, thieves, drug dealers, et cetera who threaten the fine citizens of D.C. It’s those goshdarn snowball throwers. Lock ‘em up!
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How do you know this man wasn’t on his way to do just that?? Breaking the law is breaking the law, Syd….The mere fact that you would minimize that is shocking to me, dear lady….

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:31:pm
@Day

“And if it took me 2 weeks to do it, Oh, well!!! I don’t care about your job, I don’t care that you need to get back to your family!! You chose to break the law, so you can suffer as a result!! Makes no diffefence to me!!!”

That’s right. If it took a month to type up the reports on those snow-throwing scofflaws, it’s worth every penny of taxpayers’ money.
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That’s the price you pay for citizens behaving like juveniles, Syd….Let em rot…:lol:

@Daywalker

Okay. Just a few minutes ago you said the officer should be reprimanded now you say the civilians should be put in jail. Stick with a side. Your a little all over the place.

@Sydney

ROF. I can tell that you have been sarcastic with your last few comments but I don’t think Daywalker have picked up on that.

@Daywalker

Well, I agree with you — It’s not the rapists, murderers, thieves, drug dealers, et cetera who threaten the fine citizens of D.C. It’s those goshdarn snowball throwers. Lock ‘em up!
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How do you know this man wasn’t on his way to do just that?? Breaking the law is breaking the law, Syd….The mere fact that you would minimize that is shocking to me, dear lady….

Sydney is responding to you with sarcasm You can’t tell? LOL. Take care.

@Day

“The mere fact that you would minimize that is shocking to me, dear lady….”

Alright, Sheriff Day. I’m wrong. Go get ‘em!

@Nina K.

LOL, I thought I was being obvious. Maybe not.

I think there ought to be a law against Snowballin in the wintertime. It seems that police officers can get assualted…Hey maybe this falls under some terrorism act against civil servants….wow I could go on and on with this bullshiete!!

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:44:pm
@Day

“The mere fact that you would minimize that is shocking to me, dear lady….”

Alright, Sheriff Day. I’m wrong. Go get ‘em!
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I don’t have to get em, cause I’m not a cop!! I can say that the crowd as a whole was wrong…You choose to make light of their behavior Syd, but the fact still remains that someone could have gotten hurt as a result! Every officer who was there yet chose to do nothing to stop them was as equally wrong as well…SMH…..

Day, you would actually detain people in jail until someone came forward and confessed to throwing a snowball? LMAO!

My, what a crazy world we live in. . .

@Nina K.

“I tried to tell him but I don’t think he gets what you are doing. If he did, he would not keep responding so seriously. Carry on.”

LOL, I appreciate it. I think I’m done.

Sydney™
12/21/09, 18:50:pm
Day, you would actually detain people in jail until someone came forward and confessed to throwing a snowball? LMAO!

My, what a crazy world we live in. . .
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I once threw a guy in jail for a 2 weeks because he wouldn’t rat out a guy who was with him robbing people at knifepoint at an ATM machine on base…I told him he could either tell me who it was, or stay in jail!! A day later, he then told me he needed to get to his job, and I told him the same thing I just told you…If he talked, he’d walk!! If not, his azz could stay where he was!!!! 2 weeks later, he finally fessed up…His choice, not mine, Syd…The bottom line is that people doing things they know are wrong shouldn’t be applauded, hun…And yes, I’d have done that as soon as look in his direction….

He should be fired!!! Period…

But I guess I was wrong for keeping people safe who just wanted to get some of their own hard earned money out of the bank, eh?? Sorry Syd, but we will just have to agree to disagree on this…

@Sydney

I feel you. He doesn’t know what sarcasm is.

Boy weren’t them white college kids happy and cocky when the “WHITE” cops showed up. LOL

“Yeah I know thats the main incident you were referring to, that was really sad. As a matter of fact that boy was 14 I think. Even when there were numerous eye witness accounts that the lil boy didnt have a gun the officers still got off..smh”

This time the cops made a move too soon. He a__ is a good as fired.

I guess he knows now U don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight. I bet you this wasn’t his first time abusing his authority. Although, I would have been angry too if my car was hit and I got smacked upside my noggin with a hard__ snowball.

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SHe says the threatened people and behaved in a dangerous manner… But 200+ people engaging in a rally throwing snowballs at moving vehicles would not pose any threat nor danger. I dont know what this detectives conduct record is but he needs to get a pass on this one… If your vehicle got hit with a barrage of snowballs it can startle you or cause you to swerve in to pedestrians/ oncoming traffic. Furthermore the driver can be an elderly or inexperienced person who doesnt need those kinds of distractions on the road. In NYC bus drivers are entitled to end their route prematurely if they are being attacked by snowballs or eggs. Its just a stupid thing to do!!

Oops, wrong thread! Sorry!

Snowballs can damage vehicles. If that man’s hummer had been damaged, who would have been able to blame out of a crowd of 200 people he didn’t know? Brandishing the gun was going too far. However, not everyone likes being hit with snowballs either. Like someone else said only ahem – “non-black” folks would try to get away with some crap like that.

Snowball…Gun….snowball….gun. My money’s on the gun. Can you say EXCESSIVE FORCE or DESK JOB?

I have a Hummer and it aint never seen sh*t like that! But its great when its raining real heavy and you dont have to slow down.

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ADATMISEH said on DC Cops Goes Crazy After His Hummer is Hit with Snowballs
December 21, 2009 at 12:08 pm

you are all right!!! he shouldn’t have gotten out of his vehicle, he should’ve drove off like nothing happened and then some idiot would eventually hit someone else causing them to get angry and then that person would come out the car and whoop that other person’s a.ss and a huge riot would incite and then evryone would say “well, where were the cops” and then we would’ve said “they were right there taking pictures an s.h.it ” everyone expect the cops to know better and do better WHICH THEY SHOULD but y can’t ADULTS do the same? if they were some kids then it’s a completely different story…but ADULTS gimme a frikkin break, let it go, ur childhood is gone…be responsible, go throw snowba.lls and rocks and frozen eggs and whatever u want…on ur own private property!!! dont take that s.h.it on a street where lives can be endangered. those ‘yuppies’ should be fined!!!
errbody know black people dont like the snow no dam way

AMEN…THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK AS WELL. IF SOMEONE HAD CRASHED, OR SLIPPED FROM TRYING TO DUCK, AND THEN SLID ON ICE INTO TRAFFIC, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE ATTACKING THE DETECTIVE WOULD BE SCREAMING THE COPS WERE NOT DOING THEIR JOB, LETTING THESE YUPPIES TAKE OVER U STREET LIKE A MOB, AND NOW WE HAVE SOMEONE DEAD. YOU PEOPLE ARE SUCH A KEE KEE AT TIMES. EVERYONE CAN AGREE THAT THE OFFICER PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE FIRST AND FOREMOST BRANDISHED HIS BADGE INSTEAD OF HIS WEAPON (BY THE WAY, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND WORSE BY SAYING HE PULLED THE GUN OUT ON ANYBODY-HE PULLED IT OUT AND AIMED IT TO THE GROUND LIKE I HAVE SEEN PLENTY OF COPS DOING EVEN WHEN THEY MERELY PULL YOU OVER AT A TRAFFIC STOP)BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THESE YUPPIES WERE BREAKING THE LAW BY THROWING ICE AT INNOCENT PEOPLE AND VEHICHLES. IS ANYONE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT BEING ILLEGAL.

Ok…it was a relief just to be able to get out of the friggin house…..I could not open my front door…had to dig my way out with a dust pan…..and then get out there and have some moron pull a gun cuz his hummer got hit with a few snowballs???? I promise you he NEVER would have tried this shyt in S.E. DC…bet that…his mama would be buring his azz tomorrow….

@aleximaq

You sound like a complete and utter idiot. This was a planned illegal event. And just because there were over 200 people acting like elementary school kids in the middle of the FVCKING streets, does not mean that people are supposed to find some detour, like it’s the freaking Thanksgiving Day Parade or something. And whether or not you live/roll in SE DC or not, you made a comment that the detective would not have done what he did in SE, and I said neither would those YUPPIES. So the questin really is what the hell are YOU talking about.