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My son is HALF BLACK AND HALF MEXICAN. Where are the HALF BREEDS? Shoooot. Am I first? WTF?

Ahahaha. I figured I wasnt. That’s some shyt man. For real, there’s an option “SOME OTHER RACE”>…what is that NA’VI from AVATAR or what?!

just have a fill in the blank and do away with the “check the box…”

Third that’s the word!
And they wonder why we don’t wanna fill that thang out. Sooooooo disrespectful.

OMFG Im sorry but yall STAY B ITCHIN ! like wow who the F cares? Its not that big of deal….its not like ppl are just callin yall that…

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Whats F-d up is that First yall called Negroes, then its Colored, then its Black, Then African American, like NONE OF YALL ARE FROM AFRICA but yall aint cryin about that…its just always somethin…..SMH never EVER EVER just content huh?

Drenk .. you make more sense than any posts on here,, just have a fill in the box.. damn all that my son is half this and now all of a sudden these people want to put out their half blackness! please!

Well, they gave you 3 damn options! For all of you confused MF’s who can’t simply be “black”, you now have the option to be African American, Negro, or simply Black. Until they make a category for STUPID, STFU and quit complaining!

It’s as if no one saw it? Like the whole census committee just said, “well…we’ve already paid the printer…so…*kanye shrug*” It’s hard not to feel slighted.

Is that for older people?

My Momma-Law (LOL) is in her 60′s and on her birth certificate is says colored. She constantly asks me what A.A. stands for. So maybe older folk who grew up during Jim Crow and those times, maybe they relate and feel more famiilar with that term.

BLACK was created by Colonalist to categorize their racist cast system with WHITE being the highest, with everything after as higher cl***** and BLACK being the lowest.

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Ironically though, when you are talking about money, being in the black is being positive (or in other words you have money), so we know that was just people’s way of trying to divide and conquer

I mean do we need all three??? I mean I think a black person would know which one to check.

Why do I feel like I’ve been shoved into a time machine and catapulted to the 50′s?

You’ve got to be kidding me.

@DRENK,
I’m with you…and I’m going to check every box, lol.

Identity is everything! There are some people of color who want to count every drop of blood that comprises every ethnicity that comprises their heritage for those Black does not cover who they are. There are some people who know that although their ancestors may have directly been affiliated with Africa they know that they are ignorant of their exact origins (province). In that instance, the title African American is an affront and a constant reminder of how this country robbed them of their heritage. There are some who would prefer to just acknowledge “Other” because they are not merely a color, due to all the varied shades of Black people (unlike white who are mostly the same shade). Until these people are embraced in this country you will “always” have an issue with their identity and how they and the world perceive them. I believe it is time the world remove the labels and consider themselves “human.”

“Negro” is widely seen as an outdated term that has negative, offensive connotations dating back to the Jim Crow era (and, yes, some people, including myself, view it as a variant of “ni**er).

There are descriptors for other races that are no longer viewed as acceptable — such as “Oriental” for people of Asian descent — and this is standard knowledge, or at least I thought.

From the African American Registry:

“The history of the word ni**er is often traced to the Latin word niger, meaning Black. This word became the noun, Negro (Black person) in English, and simply the color Black in Spanish and Portuguese. In early modern French, niger became negre and, later, negress (Black woman) was unmistakably a part of language history. One can compare to negre the derogatory ni**er and earlier English substitutes such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor that developed into its lexico-semantic true version in English. It is probable that ni**er is a phonetic spelling of the White Southern mispronunciation of Negro.”

@Divine
“I prefer African America.”
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Have you ever been to Africa? I have, and don’t look like anyone I saw there. They would not claim me, nor you. I was born in N.Y. My great grandmother was Irish. Didn’t get to Africa ’til my mid-thirties. Africans often(not all) look down on Black Americans. Many of them think us inferior. People of Polish, Italian, Russian and other decent in this country are just White. Don’t you realize ‘African American’ is just another attempt/misguided effort to separate you from the place you were born? You are NOT African. If you’re not a Black American, who are you?

I don’t object too much to the term Negro, although it is obsolete. It just means black in Spanish. I think any pejorative connotation the word might have is uneccesary. Black people call each other that all the time as a matter of description. That’s what the “N” stands for in NAACP. I wonder if Native Americans have the option of marking “Indian” on the census too, though, because that term is an obsolete one to describe them?

I refuse to check any box because it shouldnt make a difference anyhow!they have a refuse bos too and i have lots of mixtures on both sides so im not leaving anyone out and wont check none!

typo.. box~~~~!!!!

yes, nergro does nean black, so why would that be offensive? Black is beautiful! and if white people can simply be white, why can’t we just be black? i think it’s trivial and stupid to split hairs over what to call ourselves(especially when some of us are so cool with calling themselves ni g g e r s). What I think is more offensive, is the government trying to soothe black folks by giving options on a WORD on a FORM instead of doing things that actually HELP.

if it was good enough for those who passed, why wouldn’t it be good enough for us?!?

f’ck white ppl

“That’s what the “N” stands for in NAACP.”

I thought NAACP was an acronym for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. The historic organization was founded in the 1900s (the Niagara Movement began in 1905), hence the terminology. But the terms “colored” and “Negro” are no longer used to describe African Americans in current materials, to my knowledge.

@MARCUS RICH
Africa, India and Asia and the central and southern Americas where building temples that still stand to this day, they had knowledge of astronomy and mathematics,
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funny how they also try to say that aliens must have helped them to build those temples because of their sophistication

Ironically, I was recently asked by a white colleague what terms are now considered appropriate to use in reference to blacks. I told her black or African American are interchangeably used, and some people prefer one term over the other.

@Sydney™
1/6/10, 12:17:pm

“That’s what the “N” stands for in NAACP.”

I thought NAACP was an acronym for the National *****ociation for the Advancement of Colored People.
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UH UH!! STOP THE BUS! No somebody didn’t say they thought the ‘N’ in NAACP stood for Negro… Damn… We are worse off than I thought… These damn yungins don’t know shyt from shinola about their heritage…

What’s more messed up is the description they have for Asian…how close minded is that?? lol. They might as well put for black nationalities too like…African, Cuban, Jamaican etc….

I’m black and negro being on there doesn’t bother me since some people still see themselves as that.

Does that da*n sign on the pic ACTUALLY say “APE”, fu*k they were bold back then…

That is pissing me office right now…

Why exaclty is this question being asked in the first place ……Does any other country specify race. For example in Europe, Asia or Africa does the government determine how they are to spend money based on race?? Just wondering……………

WOW THEY NEED TO ABOLISH THAT WORD AND THE WORD NI@@#R AND THE WORD NI##! EITHER WAY YOU SAY IT IS STILL OFFENSIVE AND PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW THE MEANING ARE STUPID. I HAVE NEVER SEEN NEGRO ON A JOB APPLICATION AND IF I DID THEN MY BLACK A@@ WOULDNT BE APPLYING THERE.

@Sydney

You’re right! I confused the N with the C. Either way, my sentiment is the same. Thanks for pointing that out!

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The CENSUS is shady as a 3 dollar bill. I’ll fill mine out on the 33rd Negrovember

If the word ‘negro’ is not on the form, how are they supposed to account for:

Clarence Thomas
Michael Steele
Ward Connerly (oh forgot, he’s “other”)
“Reverends” Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar, et al.

and all the other damn 21st century Stepin’ Fetchits?

@Alrighty Then….

I got confused for a second. I was out of pocket–I’ll admit it. I’m glad my Black Political Thought professor wasn’t on this blog. She would have had a coronary…lol

Sigh…I understand that the term AA may not be comfortable for some, but even if you are born in NA or the Caribbean..where do you think your origins are from..China Russia?..’Black’ bothers people because of the negative connotation..i.e blackmail, blacklist, blackmagic etc, WP have dirtied the image of black..Me my Dad is from Africa, Mom from the Islands..and I was born in Quebec who don’t want to be associated with Canada..what does this make me :AfroCaribQuebecCanadian??meh..I’m Black..Merci et bonjour! @+..bisous

@IJM

I remember in high school when a brother made the comment that he didn’t see the need for the study of black history. I nearly flipped. The knowledge of self is essential.

@Black_Orpheus

“Michael Steele”

I’m so disappointed in Steele. He’s in the news again for using the slur “Honest Injun” on TV, raising the ire of some Native Americans.

He can’t win for losing. Every time I turn around, he’s putting his foot in his mouth.

Negro…

Its a term with portegese/spanish origin…meaning= black object.

People of African descent were not viewed as humans but products to assist in increasing wealth of the white man.

It is not acceptable to use this term in so called modern times. However it will not go away since people of African descent like to called each other N…..grs so why should they remove the word Negro?

@canadian girl

Do you live in Canada now, or are you in the States?

Do Canadian blacks have the same identity crisis? I guess what I’m asking is, how do Canadian blacks refer to themselves? Black, Afro-Canadian, African-Canadian, or something along those lines?

frank lucas
1/6/10, 12:03:pm

@Divine
“I prefer African America.”
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Have you ever been to Africa? I have, and don’t look like anyone I saw there. They would not claim me, nor you. I was born in N.Y. My great grandmother was Irish. Didn’t get to Africa ’til my mid-thirties. Africans often(not all) look down on Black Americans. Many of them think us inferior. People of Polish, Italian, Russian and other decent in this country are just White. Don’t you realize ‘African American’ is just another attempt/misguided effort to separate you from the place you were born? You are NOT African. If you’re not a Black American, who are you?
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@ frank lucus
I so agrue with you. i never been to Africa but i have work with some Africans and some are nice but then you have others who dont like Blacks. Me myself i prefer to be called Black. Im not from Africa. Yes that may be where my ancestors are from but not me. I love being black wouldnt change it for the world. And to be quite honest people alot of us blacks have a little of everything in us. some more than others. I am a dark skin woman with features that are not of the noarm. Alot of people ask me where im from. They know im Black but they think im from some type of island. lol.

Also what i dont understand is why do they need to know what race we are so they can decide on who to spend millions of dollars on the community. WTF!!!!!!! that souldnt matter. The goverment. all they gonna do is make the rich leave better while inner citys get wrose. thats a damn shame.

I’m with the person that previously posted how she identified with the term African American until she met a white African American man. People white folks are born and flourish in Africa and they are very much African American, more than us blacks here in America. Barack Obama is more African American than most of us blacks here in America because he had an African father. I have never been to Africa and I can’t point out one relative that looks African in my family lineage. I am an AMERICAN, thus I only identify with the term BLACK. I’ve actually had to tell a white co-worker before that I am not African American, I am black. They looked confused but after thinking about it for a milli-second, they realized their ignorance. Native Americans are not Indian, Indians are from INDIA. All this misconception of racial identification really makes me annoyed as it is because I wish for once we didn’t have to be diced up into little groups. It would be nice if they could have a census that did not need a race to be indicated….smh….

Its crazy that checking “white” can mean your origins include white american, white hispanic, european, the entire middle east, north africa, or East Indian. THE WHOLE WORLD IS WHITE!LOL

GIMMEABREAK!
YOU ALWAYS OUT OF POCKET …CUZ YOU IN THE WHITE MANS POCKET CHUMP,… GET OUT OF HERE!

@Glok

Have a sane day.

DRENK!
YOU KNOW THEY AINT GONNA TYPE IN NO BOX THAT APPLY TO BROWN….THEY CLASSIFY THAT AS OTHER, THEY AINT WANT NO BROWNZ HERE, AND NEVER DID AND STILL DONT IN THE 1ST PLACE!

“Alrighty Then….

1/6/10, 11:24:am

Well, they gave you 3 damn options! For all of you confused MF’s who can’t simply be “black”, you now have the option to be African American, Negro, or simply Black. Until they make a category for STUPID, STFU and quit complaining!”

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*dead*

I just realized that I meant to address my earlier comment about black history to Alrighty Then, not IJM. I’m getting my SNs confused, lol.

@ Glok…!

ya know i had write it in myself, draw a box next to that and check it off

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negroid=black
caucosoid=white
mongoloid=asian
GET OVER IT BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!

DRENK WE SHOULDNT HAVE TO FILL IN CHIT WE WERE HERE BEFROE ALL THESE THEIVING BAST.A.R.D.S ARRIVED,…SERIOUSLY THOUGH
, YOU KNOW WHY THEY TAKING CENSUS?,…OVERPOPULATION CUZO ,..WHICH MEANS ..GETTY READY FOR THE CHIT TO COME …MASSES OF LIVESWILL BE LOST ..DISEASE, AND FAMINE AND HOST OF OTHERS ….DUE TO THIS FAKE AZZ TERROR CHIT!

History shows us that the words “negro” and “colored” in America have been associated with exclusion in our elders days and thus the reason in the late 60′s and 70′s why folks took to using the word “Black” to describe ourselves in defiance to “white” culture. It just so happens that the word “Black” in modern times is just as exclusionary as it’s predecessors. Meaning some people will never accept Blacks in America, and no level of conformity or assimilation will ever change their minds.

@chocalatetunda and @ frank lucas

If you are “black” your origins are African.
You of African descent.

You can be black if you want to. So be it.
but knowing the origins of why we are called ‘black’ why would you?
It truly was created as a way to label us lowly.

I am proud of my African heritage which produced my skin tone.
And I am not offended to be call African American.

I don’t need to go to Africa to know that my roots lie there.

My roots also lie in Union Springs, Alabama. I’ve never been there either.

IT SHOULDN’T BE DER PERIOD UNTIL THEY GIVE OTHER RACES 3 DIFFERENT NAMES TO MEAN THE SAME RACE. I CANT BELIEVE ITS STILL ON THERE. I’M MIXED BUT WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT ME THEY CONDSIDER ME BLACK SO I JUS MARK THAT EVEN THROUGH YOU CAN CLEARLY TELL I’M MIXED. I HAVE A GOOD GRADE OF HAIR AND THE WHITE FOLKS ALWALYS ASK ” IS DAT WEAVE IN YA HAIR BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE HAIR LIKE AND IF ITS YOUR HAIR YOU HAVE TO BE MIXED WITH SOMETHING” I MEAN COME ON THIS IS NON SENSE TO HAVE THE WORD ON THEIR I MEAN YEA IT MAY MEAN BLACK BUT JUS SAY DAM BLACK!

btw don’t take the census cuz they’ll but u in FEMA camps!!!

@ fools!!! Get educated!
learn some anthropology!!!!!

I’m telling you people – I’m claiming I’m white this year – so I can reap the benefits (as an AMERICAN) I am entitled too. Because being black in American entitles you to NOTHING, not even a peace of mind.

@chocalatetunda
1/6/10, 13:11:pm

Also what i dont understand is why do they need to know what race we are so they can decide on who to spend millions of dollars on the community. WTF!!!!!!! that souldnt matter. The goverment. all they gonna do is make the rich leave better while inner citys get wrose. thats a damn shame
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GIRL you know it matters!

Young black women are diagnosed with Breast Cancer and die of aggressive forms! Yet because we are filling the census and aren’t being accounted for, we can’t get funded for studying WHY is it black women in their 20s are getting Breast Cancer?

Because studies on white women show that “we” should be checked until out 50s.

And no funding to fight that notion among the community is being given.

And there are host of other disease like that.

It matters a lot. And we can’t justify needing money when numbers of people in the area show otherwise.

CENSUS 2010 = FEMA CAMPS

Correct me if I’m wrong, but in the 50s and 60s did black people not demand to be called Negro as respectful way to refer to our race? Then in the 70s, Afro-American replaced Negro, with African-American replacing it in the 80s and 90s?

I guess my point is, that at some point, every phrase we coin/use to describe ourselves becomes obsolete (and sometimes even pejorative over time). Who knows, in 30 years the term African-American may seem dated and offensive.

The only word with real staying power to describe people with our skin color is black, but even that is offensive to some people, so I don’t know what the solution is.

Why is there a race question on there in the first place? It shouldn’t matter. Hopefully when they do the next census in 2020 that question will be gone.

THE PEOPLE WHO DONT TAKE THIS AS AN OFFENSE MUST EITHER BE OF A DIFFERNT RACE OR ARE SOME STRIAGHT UP UNCLE TOMS CUZ IN THAT CASE PUT WHITE AMERICANS, CRACKERS OR WHAT EVER ELSE WORDS THAT HAVE BEEN USED TOO DESCRIBE A WHITE PERSON! O NO I BET THEY AINT OVER DER IN AFRICA CALLING EACH OTHERS NEGROS AND COME ON NOW THE WORD NEGRO CAN COME FROM WERE IT WANTS TOO BUT THE WORD WAS USED FOR SO LONG TO MAKE THE BLACK PERSON BE LESSEN THEN THE WHITE MAN AND YALL KNOW ITS TRUE SO DONT ACT LIKE THE WORD NEGRO WAS SOMETHIN GOOD TO BE CALLED!

@Glok…!

come on man when you start talking like that, makes me wanna run out to ammunation and stock up. ya know gun and ammo sales have gone thru the roof since obama got voted in

It’s crazy how White-Americans whose great x10 grandfather was a quarter Italian STILL like to claim they have Italian in them and are proud of it even IF they have never been to Italy.

Yet African-Americans who have ancestors from Africa do not like to be associated with Africa. Maybe if Africa was in a better state it would have been “cool” to claim? Some Africans act shady towards y’all because y’all act shady towards YOUR PEOPLE. Heck if it ain’t your ancestors then it’s black vs black, light skinned vs. dark skinned, A-A vs West Indies, bla bla bla.

If not for their blood that still flow in your vains, then for the hardship and misery YOUR ancestors have endured SHOULD you be proud to be AFRICAN-american. And I’m sorry to disappoint but MOST you do not look any different from the Africans in Africa. And I bet some of y’all will be offended by this statement even though it’s NOT an insult, will show the ignorance some of y’all live with. Sad

America has issues with black/a-a/negro/etc because y’all still have issues with y’all selves.

I done.

-A

@ Fools!!! Get educated!
Bit©h i know about Lucy!! She’s an “australopithecus africanus” and was found in east africa!!!! She probably lived 3 millions ago!!! THAT’S GRADE 11 ANTHRO FOR YOU HOE!!

@Gimmeabreak 78
1/6/10, 12:45:pm

@Alrighty Then….

I got confused for a second. I was out of pocket–I’ll admit it. I’m glad my Black Political Thought professor wasn’t on this blog. She would have had a coronary…lol

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Im sorry boo! All I saw was the statement on Sydney’s post, and I was like – UH UH! LOL!
Just so long as you know the deal for real, it’s all good! LOL!

@Icha

My issue doesn’t lie in the fact that we have African Ancestors, I know that we do and I am very much proud of that. My issue is when I am standing next to a person that was born in Nigeria but has U.S. citizenship and we both are referred to as African Americans. In my honest and humble opinion that person is more African American than I am. I can’t even look at a picture of a relative that had any visits or associations with Africa, thus my preference for the term Black American. The white actress Charlize Theron is from South Africa, she is AFRICAN AMERICAN, are we the same then???? That is all…

@Gimmeabreak78

I did a quick search online, and I believe that Civil Rights Movement ushered in the push among African Americans to replace the term “Negro” with “black.” A number of people considered “Negro” a racial slur. There was also the growth of the popular “Black is Beautiful” phrase.

James Brown recorded “Say It Loud, I’m Black and I’m Proud” in the late 1960s, and it became a powerful anthem that crystallized the feelings of pride and unity among sisters and brothers (I wish we could re-claim that period, personally).

Now we’s demands a chance to do things for ourselves
We’re tired of beating our heads against the wall
And working for someone else, hu
Now we’re our people, too
We’re like the birds and the bees,
But we’d rather die on our feet,
Than keep a’living on our knees

Say it louder,
I’m black and I’m proud
Say it louder,
I’m black and I’m proud, let me hear ha’, huh
Say it loud,
I’m black and I’m proud, hu
Say it louder,
I’m black and I’m proud
Say it louder,
I’m black and I’m proud

They should be more specific in the black section if you ask me…! I know for a fact that they’re more specific in the Canadian census! Black/African American/NEGRO shouldn’t just be one option!!!

The woman in my gravie — the late Naomi Sims, widely considered the first black supermodel — was a symbol of the Black is Beautiful movement in the late 60′s.

Hey Sydney,

I noticed your gravie of Naomi Sims, beautiful…

Why are they more specific w/ the ancestry in the asian section!?!? Chinese, Japanese, Thai, etc..
How about Somali, Jamaican, Nigerian, Haitian, Kenyan, etc for the African American section?
stupid

american gov’t is fu©kin crazy!! People who dont do the census have to pay a $5000 fine!?!?!?! Why do they want people to full this census up so badly?!?!

@Somali Ninga
1/6/10, 14:53:pm

Why are they more specific w/ the ancestry in the asian section!?!? Chinese, Japanese, Thai, etc..
How about Somali, Jamaican, Nigerian, Haitian, Kenyan, etc for the African American section?
stupid
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took a history of race/ethnicity in america class years ago, and we talked about just that. why are whites – italian, irish, etc and blacks are just phenotypical “black”

Hey Caramel

@ drenk
that’s so unfortunate!!
It’s different in Canada because practically 70% of the black population is of Caribean descent and the rest of the black population is of African descent!!

@somali Ninga, You are 100% correct on the fact that I’m a hoe !! As I was doing your mom last night with your sister waiting for me in the next room!!lol! b____ch.
Everything else coming out of your mouth is bs and I really don’t need to waist my time with someone who only knows the surface facts about a topic… Do some research on your own and get back to me! lol!

@somali Ninga,

but I’m happy that you know where you came from!lol!

@Somali Ninga

So what do black Canadians call themselves?

Fools!!! Get educated!:
“@somali Ninga,

but I’m happy that you know where you came from!lol!”

I have to admit that I lol’d @ that!! Trust me I’m well educated!! U asked me about Lucy and I answered your damn question!! What you said about the origins of Negro were correct, however I dont appreciate how you call blacks dumb! You assume we don’t read anthropology books but we do!!! Self-hate much??

These terms dont mean the same thing

Black= (race)Phyiscal Characteristics or everyone of black African descent

African-American= Cultural heritage is from the U.S.

Negro= “Black” in Spanish

Yes I think it is wrong that the list it as only “white”, but for blacks, they a 100 and 1 options. They did not even have Italian or Sicillian up there.:( I just don’t see myself as white, I was not born in America and I don’t get the same benefits white americans do, so I do not see myself as white, because they never claim me.

@deniro

How bout caucasian?

@Sydney™
++++++++

Michael Steele reminds me of the “inoffensive” black dude who gets invited to join the previously all-white frat, and he is so eager to “fit in” that he “Out Skippies Skippy”.

He is so transparently a fraud. The ONLY straight men that I have ever seen who can get away with calling another man “baby” with masculine swagger are old BeBop jazzmen.

Anybody else trying it just comes across as shallow. And this one is about as “hip” as leisure suits and platform shoes.

There is nothing wrong with “conservative” thought that comes from conviction — this dude just saw that nobody was handing out grants, positions and status to left-leaning blacks the way they did in the 1960s thru’ 1970s, so he moved across the political aisle, where the pickin’s are easy.

I could join the Republican Party in Chester County PA, and finagle my way into hundreds of thousands of dollars TOMORROW, as a reasonably well educated black “conservative” male, if I were willing to sell my soul.

A true black conservative would SHUN the Repubs as quickly as he would the Dems — this guy is an OPPORTUNIST. True conservatism is not the same thing as Republican Party affiliation.

“Loleini Tonga, fiancee of Chris Henry, will not face any charges stemming from the incident that led to his death.

The Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department Homicide Unit completed its investigation, they announced today, and “determined that there was no evidence of reckless driving or excessive speed by Ms. Tonga.”

Cops said Tonga was cooperative throughout their investigation.”

I told you all she wouldn’t face any charges!

@ gimmeabreak78
In Canada, there’s no such thing as “Black Canadian” anymore. It’s more like Jamaican Canadian, Somali Canadian, Ghanaian Canadian, Haitian Canadian, Trididian Canadian, etc

ah my arch nemesis, Deniro1974, is back!!! You’re from Italy, which makes you European, which makes you CAUCASIAN!!!! THERE!!!!

@somali Ninga

I’m glad that you have learned something today and have the balls to admit it! I don’t really have self hate within me but I do have a problem with my American black brothers not doing there do diligence on reading on there history and not the history the white man has given them over the past 400 years in America. This is why other races look at them like bafoons as they know are history better then we do. They know we were the Kings of Kings they know we were there chosen ones they know all this because it’s a part of there history.
Down to the Russians know are history and have the artifacts to prove it! I’m happy that you are taking the time to learn as am, so no disrespect and keep attaining knowledge as I will do the same.
Peace

“NO NEGRO OR APE ALLOWED IN THE BUILDING”
wow…

Glok, are you still in here? I perused the Jay-Z thread yesterday and thought this story might interest you on the Skull and Bones society:

NEW YORK — A human skull that apparently was turned into a ballot box for Yale’s mysterious Skull and Bones society is going on the auction block.

Christie’s estimates the skull will sell for $10,000 to $20,000 when it is auctioned on Jan. 22. Fittingly, the auction house has agreed to keep the seller’s name a secret. On Monday, it described the person only as a European art collector.

The term I don’t get is African American. Your nationality is american. I don’t care what colour you are.
When Americans make a refer to Caribbean people they say Afro Caribbean. I would think what the h3ll is that? In the Caribbean we refer to white, black, spanish, mixed, etc as Caribbean people. Your hertiage does not have to be highlighted.

@ Fools!!! Get educated!:
i got mad respect for you!! Peace!!

As I do you ! Maybe because were both Canadian!lol!

negro is the same as caucasian (something to do with outdated hypotheses about regions from which the races originated). one just has a positive connotation and one’s been dragged through the mud. personally, caucasian would be more insulting to me, historically and realistically speaking

@ Fools!!! Get educated!
Thanks for info!!

@ Somali Ninga

they rewrite history to fit their ideals. said jesus wasnt from the middle east but from the area we call britain,something about British Israelism theology, its just as crazy and man-made as all the other religions

@somali Ninja,

Thank you for the info as well, let’s make a point of continuing are education so that we can keep teaching each other! Each one teach one!

One love! Have a happy New Year!

lol @ the silly N.e.gros getting perturbed off the term “N.e.gro”..smh

Better yet lol @ the silly N.e.gros getting perturbed off the word N.e.gro that use the word Ni99a everyday..smh

@ drenk
JUEUS CHRIST!!!!!!!! That’s so stupid!!

*JESUS*

@ Soul Else
Definetly agree / you!! This Census 2010 is 100% politically incorrect!!

majority of black people are stupid.i always said y do black people address themselves as , negro colored, call eachother the n word , or african american at that. when most of yall have never even been to africa n most of your parents werent born there. come on united college negro fund? how obsurd is that. ive never n will never classify myself with any of those terms . im not any of them. im either multi racial, black american, at one point i’d tell people im west indian because i have that in my background, but for the most part im human. y is race such a factor anyway. this is bogus. didnt we all come into this world by ourselves? im just me.

i guess they were afraid to call me black, they had told me when they had called someone else black that person got offended n said they were afircan american. where as im the opposite i get offended with all the other terms. im black im black whats the big deal. thats not a bad word or bad thing

mixed not black

Census 2010 = FEMA camps
During World War II the American gov’t conducted the census and promised Americans that it wouldn’t be used against them, HOWEVER, the FBI(i think) used the Census to round up all the Japanese-Americans and sent them to internment(concentration) camps!!!! Why do you think the media is pushing people to do the census this year? How come ACORN is going to ask your neighbours for your info if fail to write the census? How come you have to pay a $5000 dollar fine if you refuse to do the census! Something fishy is going on!!! Anyone agree or disagree with me?

Funny how the author of the article uses the word “race” to describe human as if there are different types last time I checked we are all human. In reality we are all one race and DNA says people are 99.97% identical (search the Human Genome Project of 2000 on what ever search engine you use) the only difference is our ethnicity. Maybe if we educate our youth on correct terminology or proper use of “the language” we can move closer to eliminating the socially constructed use of the word race facilitating “racism” present here in the U.S. (and spreading globally). Or we can focus on asking ourselves why does the census read white in the first place, what is “white” (vice versa for “black” that is a color not an ethnicity. By grouping all white together it allows for them to create a majority whereas if they were divided into their actual ethnic group (for instance the person who would normally check white may know have to check German, Irish, English or etc.) the form would be made larger though this would get people away from using the words “white” or “black” to describe an ethnic group. Also it may take away from the socially attributed connotations these words symbolize in our society.

When WE run around calling each other N*I*G*G*E*R/N*i*g*g*a at the top of our lungs, how can we be bothered by the word Negro?

@victoria good point.

I’m just me

wtf? u not black!

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@Ann- Not all black people use the N-Word, not to be self righteous but as of recently I have been attempting to stop using the N-word when referring to other black folk although I must admit it does slip out from time to time due to habit

@gmen you stay sounding foolish. did you not just read what victoria wrote. we are human really honestly there is only 1 race n that is the human race. now ethnicity is different. that would leave me at being american or west indian.

agree w/ ann

@ Glok
Jesus(pbuh) wasn’t black! He probably had some african blood in him but we can’t apply that “One Drop of Black” Rule on him. He was from Palestine, he was a Semite!

EEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW @ WHITE DEVIL PICTURE!!! AYAN HERSI ALI IS A ©UNT!!!!!!!
btw I agree w/ your statement!

Another thing that is fu©ked up about the Census is that they don’t ask you if you’re a US citizen!?!!?!? WTF!!!!!!!??????
FEMA CAMPS!!!!!!!

Negro is the proper term for African Americans. Black is a color that symbolizes death. Are Hispanics called Browns and Asians called Yellows? No. Stop being so ignorant and allowing ppl to think for you. People of spanish descent are called Hispanic, not Spanish Americans because they are not from Spain just like we shouldn’t accept African American because we are not African natives. We are AMERICANS and negro is the proper term for an American of African descent. We were Negros until Jessie Jackson decided that we should be called African Americans. Stop letting the media define who we are and get you focused on things that aren’t important. Chicago has shown 2 dead black boys on the news in the past 6 months. Corpses aren’t usually shown on the evening news. Why them? Think about that.

@Somali Ninga, Jesus was indeed black. When he was born the angel Gabriel told Joseph to hide the baby in Egypt, not Palestine, not Greece nor the Orient. The people that live in Egypt now are not the original Egyptians. They are the Sudanese people who were the original Egyptians. During th Ottoman Empire’s rule, they pushed the dark skinned Africans west into the land known as the country of Sudan but its important to understand Sudan was once apart of Egypt. Don’t spread ignorance.

my cousin is Dominican and African Americam.. Shouldn’t he just put black?? oh i forgot Dominicans and alot of Puertoricans swear on the HOLY BIBLE they aint black even in the slightest bit.lol……..

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@ kinglion
Im not causcasion never have been. I wouldn’t put that on the test.

if you’re black then you’re black. all this crap needs to be cut i.e african american/african descent just plain old black should be enough.
the same goes for white. if ya white you;re just plain ole white. it think that works well.

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Black Canadians call themselves black Canadians, collectively. 70% of black Canadians are from the Caribbean, mainly Jamaica. They consider themselves Jamaican-Canadian, black Canadian;

BUT…

the white, mainstream institutional types are trying to push the term “African-Canadian.” It’s annoying. There are blacks in Canada who call themselves African Canadian, but they are usually politicslly correct mainstream/media types or black Americans who came over during the War of 1812, and the Underground Railroad movement.

@Artofwar, Negro is offensive to who? United NEGRO college fund ring a bell? I’d rather be called a Negro than black anyday. Negro is an AMERICAN term, just like Hispanic. People, please stop getting mad over nothing.

@SomaliNinga, Jesus was an AFRICAN, period. Everything else is moot.

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ok. first to the people who are saying “Negro means black in spanish so thats probably why they use it…”: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? DO you think the census people actually sat down an said, well, negro mean black in spanish so it is in no way offensive and means the same thing. I think not. Honestly, I don’t like the term colored either, but it is a better classification than negro in my opinion. We are more “colored” than whites, and some asians. FACT. my other question is why hispanics/people of spanish decent were removed from the census. are they just other? or are they black because they aren’t white, asian or native american?

i’d honestly go with black because my family is so mixed up that i couldn’t even begin to trace my roots directly back to africa (at least not from my mom’s side of the family)

that is all…

@artofwar i agree with you. like i said colored, negro, african american or afro american at that , n.i.g.ga ..er same crap . i dont dig them terms. i let whomever wants it claim it for them damn self .

@@@ Sydney™

For you…. Sydney™

Love the Trade Mark legal or not.

However, I rarely comment due to the lack of intellectual cognisance that this particular blog tread is known for.

I must say that without direct interjection I do monitor this site, as well as more Caucasian visited sites, so that I can better recognize an assembles of a glimpse into not just my world, but both worlds, and all the worlds in between.

Sydney™ I admire your fierce denunciation of anything anti Black as a whole.

However, even you my militant upholder of the Black Race, must in your infinite wisdom acknowledge this….

Every story has at-least two sides, and you seem to be well aware of this fact, yet one sided, and I understand this, for the best fight should go to the one in most need of a win.

We, as you, and I, must acknowledge that at the end of the day everything is about self interest,
The interest of self, and the interest of our loved ones regardless of race.

Again, every story has a least two sides, and usually many more sides than we can begin to imagine, or want to imagine.

The truth does not live in extremes, the truth lives somewhere in between those extremes.

Sydney™, I look forward to the insight of your mind, even when I am out- country, which I have been since before New Years.
My people always manage to keep me informed about your latest RANT, LOL….

More eloquently put, (I hope you have a sense of humor,) and more precise your latest important mind storm, that I have been made aware, and as usual find quite refreshing.

We will some day bump heads as they say on a particular issue, because that is what true intellectuals do.

However, from my side least, we will keep it respectful, and great.

Sydney™ Have a warm and cozy fruitful evening…

Your understander, from a dizzying colorful and sometimes incomprehensible
South Beach……

P.S. Sydney™, if you ever find yourself this far south, R.S.V.P.

Arrangements will be made for you, and whom ever is your company……Artofwar

WOW the response on this is very strong and some people are proving very structure arguments…
Nice keep them coming

For those of you that seem to be either obtuse, or just stuck on stupid.
Allow me to throw in my hat……

I happen to be black and Spanish, my parents are Cuban born. I was born in Manhattan.

I speak seven languages, and in the language of Spanish Negro, simply means black.

No racial undertones to it, Negro just means black. unless you have a problem with the actual word black, than if not you should have no problem with the word negro.

By the sounds of some of you, night time should somehow be considered racist, because of it’s darkness of the day.

Let me expose myself somewhat more than others may be willing.

My mother is of more Caucasian descent, my father is of Jamaican descent.

In other words one parent is very dark, the other very light.

I have lived in Detroit, witch is almost 100% black.
And I have lived in Brentwood L.A, and the wine suburbs of Napa Valley California, witch happens to be just about 100% white.

Not to mentions my foundations In South Africa,
and my travels as far up the Mediterranean Sea to the eastern regions of Rome, Egypt, and Greece.

So how do I say this without insulting anybody?

Well I can not, even to the risk of insulting some of you, unless you have literally traversed the roads and cultural situations that I have, and have not been exposed to the dynamics of that life.

Then I must digress….

I must simply say you are not qualified to speak on the multi- dynamics of life in general.
So and excuse my French, but S.T.F.U., and that is not French, but quite American in understanding.

It seems that we have many commentators on this blog that may have attended a few college courses, but very few know anything other than class room knowledge.

Until you have gone out into the world , you know nothing!!!

Until you have lived it, you know nothing.

I too have a very expensive education, that cost my mother and my father tens of thousands of dollars.

However, Yale and Harvard thought me nothing, except how to earn an filthy fortune.

Traveling however thought me how to be a human being, to those like me, and to those unlike me.

Taste as many flavors, and experiences beyond your scope of understanding, don’t be afraid, Then only can you begin to understand, and comprehend the bigger picture.

This is not a black thing, nor is it a white thing. What this is, is a human thing.

We are all connected, yes even those we love and those we hate, because we refuse to understand the dynamics that separate us, yet make us one, none the less we are one.

End of story….Artofwar

@ Artofwar

You don’t sound sane.

The world is steeped in confusion today, but nothing has changed!!!! The male figure carries the seed, and it’s planted inside of the woman! So that mean you are whateva your pops iz. If he’s black and you are a chinese, that means the child iz black!!! There iz no in between. Check out the bible! It’s tells you that Jesus came as the seed of Abraham, being called the seed of David! The man carriez the seed!! Plain and simple!! Shalom!

@@@ White Devil…

With a name like yours, I am glad….Artofwar

last boxed option: some other race > human.

The fact that this discussion became so heated so quickly proves that all three are necessary. Black people across the US are so diverse and so are our life experiences- the truth is there is so much hate against us that for someone any one term can have a lot of negativity attached to it (or a particular region).

Once upon a time we were forced to accept whatever someone decided to call us- no matter how degrading. The beauty of 2010 is that no one can “name” me. I have the right to be called whatever the heck I want on a census. I like Negro. I like black. For different reasons. I’m not an immigrant or a “hyphenated” American so I don’t think AA applies but other people feel differently and I respect their right to that.

Educate yourself, make an educated decision and DO YOU. Words are all about connotation and context- you can’t Force something to be positive or negative to someone else.

With all that said, Ethnicity and “race” Are social constructs with No genetic backing at all so, outside of what we feel culturally or as individuals this conversation has no significance and no “right” answer.

There’s no technical term for what we are other than Human. If you just think about a definition of “Black” long enough the ridiculousness should be obvious. There are dark people in India, Asia, Australia, South America etc who have no recent connections to Africa. ALL people are originally African. Mixed race and our concept of it in the US is so backwards it’s mindblowing.

Not to mention the entire concept of “white” is socially constructed. For example- in any US census Arabic people are considered “white- which visually makes little sense… Then consider that you are an Arabic person if you’re a native Arabic speaker. The Irish, Southern Italians, Eastern Europeans among others were Not considered white 100 years ago and Are considered white as of around 50 years ago. You CAN’T DO THAT with a genetic physical reality. I’ve been to Eastern Europe. The people there are not pale- MANY have curly hair, many have “ethnic” features. Doesn’t matter.. in America they are White (now). I’ve been to Ireland. Physically You Cannot Get whiter. Doesn’t matter.. they weren’t White 100 years ago.

I know no one has the time and this isn’t the place for an Anthro class or some kind of theory argument, but it’s obvious that This is a culture question, not a science question and as such the correct answer varies based on the biography of the person you ask and the culture of where you ask. I am SO proud of my heritage, my history, and the exact shade that my skin is. If I met you I’m sure I’d love yours too… but the census is not about what you look like. The word Negro or Black or the term African American has NOTHING to do with what you look like or who you actually are. These are just imperfect raggedy ways to try to keep track of a groups of people that are hard to define and don’t always have much or anything in common.

@deniro1974 i hate that Italian isn’t on there. The term “white” is a statement about privilege, not heritage Italians are still discriminated against.

I dont’ see Jewish either come to think of it. Wtf, it makes no sense.

The Census Bureau has a long history of researching a variety of approaches to measuring race and ethnicity in the decennial census. This reflects a commitment to improving race and ethnic decennial census results by pursuing a greater understanding of how people self-identify their race and Hispanic origin.

The Census Bureau has a research team dedicated to investigating issues and analyzing data on the nation’s diverse racial and ethnic groups. We are actively engaged in explorations that address the changing and fluid nature with which individuals identify and relate to the concepts of race and ethnicity. This research provides a portrait of America’s changing racial and ethnic landscape. The results of 2010 Census research will inform the ways in which the Census Bureau collects and tabulates race and ethnic data in the future.

1950 Census to 1990 Census
The 1950 Census was the first to include the term “Negro” printed on the questionnaire and the term has been on each questionnaire since then. The term “Negro,” by itself, was also printed on the 1960 Census form. In the 1970 Census, the phrase “Negro or Black” was used as a category in the question on race. The 1980 Census and 1990 Census used the phrase “Black or Negro” as a category in the question on race.

2000 Census
Research leading up to the 2000 Census indicated that there was a segment of the black population that still identified itself with the term “Negro,” and a growing proportion identified with the term “African American.” Based on that research, the phrase “Black, African Am., or Negro” was used for the 2000 Census question on race.

Findings from the 2000 Census on the term “Negro”
A tabulation of 2000 Census responses showed that about 56,000 people provided a write-in response of “Negro,” even though there was already a checkbox category that included that term (“Black, African Am., or Negro”). This shows that at least 56,000 people identified themselves as “Negro” — this does not include the unknown number of respondents who may have checked the box “Black, African Am., or Negro” because of the presence of the term “Negro.”

Of those respondents who wrote in “Negro,” more than 75 percent were under the age 65 and nearly 50 percent were under the age 45.

Slightly more than half of the write-in “Negro” responses came from the South, which is the most populous region for blacks.

2010 Census
The wording of the race category in 2010 is identical to that of 2000 — “Black, African Am., or Negro” and is based on Office of Management and Budget standards. In “Revisions to the Standards for the Classification of Federal Data on Race and Ethnicity,” OMB defined the racial category “Black or African American” as “a person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa” and stipulated that “terms such as ‘Haitian’ or ‘Negro’ can be used in addition to ‘Black or African American.’ ” For more information on the OMB standards, you may visit the following Web site .

The Census Bureau has a quality standard whereby testing is required before any changes in the wording of questions. This standard is needed to avoid unanticipated consequences on results of surveys and censuses coming from even minor wording changes. Unfortunately, no experimentation on the effects of using the word “Negro” was conducted in the past decade.

Future steps
A test embedded in the 2010 Census will measure the effect of removing the term “Negro” on reports about a person’s racial identity. The results will be used to inform design changes for future surveys and the 2020 Census.

Robert M. Groves, director of the U.S. Census Bureau, notes, “Unfortunately, in the past decade, testing was not conducted on using the word ‘Negro.’ In the 2000 Census, approximately 56,000 respondents self-identified by writing in this word on their forms, which suggests that some number of people do identify with this term. We are sorry if some are offended by the use of this word in the 2010 Census and hope that it will not stop them from returning their forms and being fully counted by the census.”

Ignorance really is a disease. What strikes me most about the majority of comments here is that they lack insight and careful thought. I remember some old lady calling Obama an Arab and I can’t see how some of those who make comments on here differ from her. What we need to do here is to educate people. For those who are unhappy with any of the options, have you bothered to ask or find out why they are on there in the first place? If so, who did you ask? What was their response?

It does not matter at this stage what options are put on there. Just pick the one that applies to you and move on. Anything else is non-trivial. That wasn’t too hard, was it?

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Recently, I found the 2010 Census form hanging on my door. As I began filling it out, I came across a dilemma. The U.S. government wants to know if my children are adopted or not and it wants to know what our races are. Being adopted myself, I had to put “Other” and “Don’t Know Adopted” for my race and “Other” and “Don’t Know” for my kids’ races.

Can you imagine not knowing your ethnicity, your race? Now imagine walking into a vital records office and asking the clerk for your original birth certificate only to be told “No, you can’t have it, it’s sealed.”

How about being presented with a “family history form” to fill out at every single doctor’s office visit and having to put “N/A Adopted” where life saving information should be?

Imagine being asked what your nationality is and having to respond with “I don’t know”.

It is time that the archaic practice of sealing and altering birth certificates of adopted persons stops.

Adoption is a 5 billion dollar, unregulated industry that profits from the sale and redistribution of children. It turns children into chattel who are re-labeled and sold as “blank slates”.

Genealogy, a modern-day fascination, cannot be enjoyed by adopted persons with sealed identities. Family trees are exclusive to the non-adopted persons in our society.

If adoption is truly to return to what is best for a child, then the rights of children to their biological identities should NEVER be violated. Every single judge that finalizes an adoption and orders a child’s birth certificate to be sealed should be ashamed of him/herself.

I challenge all readers: Ask the adopted persons that you know if their original birth certificates are sealed.

Honestly, there is only one race and that is the human race. So that’s what I put. Negro has a negative connotation. Period. We can say negro comes from Negroid, but then you have white. What about people who are italian american? Irish American? How did all these other races become “white”. If negro is short for Negroid, then Caucasoid, sometimes also Europid, or Europoid should be put down for “white people”. Oh, but people don’t want to do that. Just make it harder for people of african descent. Well WHATEVER. We are all the HUMAN RACE. Stop separating us based on skin tones.