Lawlessness

Posted on July 1st, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: KKK, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

Some people think they can get away with murder, and some people actually do. This dude, Joe Horn, who shot down two Colombians that had robbed his neighbor’s home, has just been cleared by a jury:

A Harris County grand jury on Monday ended the rancorous seven-month debate over Pasadena resident Joe Horn’s decision to gun down two illegal immigrant burglars in his front yard, concluding the act was a justifiable use of deadly force and not murder. [The grand jury] likely also heard his breathless 911 call, during which the increasingly frustrated retiree ignored a dispatcher’s pleas to stay inside and out of harm’s way. The Nov. 14 call ended with the sound of Horn racking a shell into his 12-gauge shotgun’s chamber followed by three gunshots that killed Colombians Diego Ortiz, 30, and Hernando Riascos Torres, 38.

Each man was shot in the back. They had taken about $2,000 in the burglary.

Here’s how things went down on that ill fated day:

Horn was alone inside the home he shares with his daughter’s family around 2 p.m. on Nov. 14 when he was heard glass shattering next door, spotted Ortiz and Torres crawling through a window and called 911 to report the break-in.

The operator repeatedly urged him to stay in his house, but Horn said he did not believe it would be right to let the burglars get away.

“Well, here it goes, buddy,” Horn told the operator. “You hear the shotgun clicking and I’m going.”

The operator replied: “Don’t go outside.”

“Don’t go outside the house,” the 911 operator pleaded. “You’re going to get yourself shot if you go outside that house with a gun. I don’t care what you think.”

“You want to make a bet?” Horn answered. “I’m going to kill them.”

Then the tape recorded Horn warning: “Move and you’re dead!” Two quick shots can be heard on the tape, followed by a pause and then a third shot.

After the shooting, he redialed 911.

“I had no choice,” he said, his voice shaking. “They came in the front yard with me, man. I had no choice. Get somebody over here quick”

Hmmm. The victims were running away from the old redneck. Isn’t it considered self defense when a person is in immediate danger? SMH.

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  • ace

    they shouldnt have been robbing someones house

  • Tam

    2nd

  • I’m Just Me

    LOL @ Suga Walls

    Sounds like MURDER 1 to me! He didn’t intend on maiming them so that they would stop so police could get there. He wanted to kill them. He should be in jail. REMIND ME TO STAY AWAY FROM PASADENA!

  • Rod Serling

    Submitted for your approval…a world where crime is excused and the criminals receive the sympathy. Sadly, the fact that the lawbreakers are now taking dirt naps and not being free to burglarize, rob and commit crimes against others is a rarity of justice that thankfully is not just found…

    …in The Twilight Zone!

  • J Man

    They shouldnt have been robbing someones house. I would shoot them too! Make sure I send a clear message to not mess with my family. If they robbed the house next door…you’re next!

    And in situations like this…you don’t want to end up like Sean Taylor.

    We need more neighbors like Joe Horn and not nosey sheep that turn their lights off and close their ears when you are in trouble…but got enough time to see all of your other business.

    Next!

  • dcgal

    THEY HAD NO BUSINESS TAKING OTHER PEOPLES STUFF. NO SYMPATHY HERE !!!!!!

  • Kel

    @ J Man —– EXACTLY!!

    If I hear anyone walk in my house in the middle of the night I am shooting first and asking questions later!!! Feel Me?

  • moca81

    I ain’t mad at the old man because they were robbing him we as people work to hard for our things and for someone to violate you by coming into your home and take your thing’s while your there…..Now come on your bold as hell so they got exactly what they deserve I’m not saying I’m happy they died BUT had they done do what they did they’d still be here…….So they brought that upon themslves……. COME ON NOW EVERYONE IF THAT WAS “YOU” YOU WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME DAMN THING NO MATTER WHAT RACE YOU ARE.

  • Envy (Est. in 1983)

    JOE HORN……IS NAME EVEN SOUNDS REDNECKISH 2 ME

  • Envy (Est. in 1983)

    ^^^HIS^^^

  • cliff

    they werent on his property… they were robbing the neighbors house. dude took the law into his own hands and should have been convicted. if i did that, as a black man, i would have been under the jail.

  • Aunt Viv

    Sounds like self defense to me.

  • cliff

    @wordzofaprophet

    exactly!!!! i’ve been watching this story from when it first surfaced. this dude watched the robbers crawl through the neighbor’s window. he was supposed to stay in the house like the 911 operator instructed him to. texas law always favors the rednecks that take the law into their own hand. he wasnt even defending his own property. this guy is a cowboy and they let him loose.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    That’s a whole big mess right there…this guy should be doing time…he was told to stay in the house and let the police handle it…BUT NOOO…he wanna be captain-save-a-home and go and shoot the guys…I seriously wonder if these guys were white would he have shot them???

  • cliff

    for those claiming no sympathy please read the whole story subjectively. dont look at ONE news source. second, imagine if you as a black person would have shot a robber going into the neighbor’s house in the BACK. would they acquit you??? would you be a free man/woman??? would they be calling you a hero???

    come on, you people know right from wrong. all our lives they say that’s what the cops are for, to protect us. then they break the rules they say we cant break and then we defend them? wtf

  • Tired

    He got away with it b/c of his light skin color. Let that had been someone with a darker skin color and they would had found them guilty. He should have just called the police and left it at that.

  • I’m Just Me

    @ Marquis.

    I am entitled to my opinion. It is lawlessness, especially when the operator told him to stay in the house. I worship God. I don’t know where you get thug worshipping n*gga ho. The man is wrong and he got away with it. Whenever someone gets away with being wrong it upsets me. I will not engage in useless conversation with you like SMDH. Please don’t acknowledge me anymore and I will do the same.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    @Marquis

    Valuable can be replace…you can’t replace a life or your conscience after you’ve killed someone.

    I understand what you are saying…but…they should have been ARRESTED…NOT….MURDERED!!

  • Lydia

    I have been paying attention to this story. He called 911 when his neighbour was being robbed and the operator clearly told him not to go outside but trying to be a vigilate he did and shot the two robbers. This is an injustice. He should be doing time!!!

  • I’m Just Me

    @ Cliff

    Thank you.

  • I’m Just Me

    WHAT DON’T YOU PEOPLE GET?? THEY WERE ROBBING THE NEIGHBOR’S HOUSE NOT HIS!!! IT WASN’T SELF DEFENSE. THE PEOPLE WEREN’T HOME SO IT WASN’T EVEN DEFENSE OF ANOTHER.

  • kaybaybay

    Well according to AP they did come on his property and you have the right to defend your property and yourself. How many times have there been stories of people getting robbed then killed. You have to protect yourself and your family nobody else is going to do it.

  • Me too

    The man went outside the house with the intent to kill thieves. They weren’t inside HIS house. For all you people claiming you’d do it too, you’re fools! It’s ridiculous to believe it’s right to kill others over stolen PROPERTY! The man didn’t even know the neighbors!! He didn’t care about their STUFF! He hated to see two black CRIMINALS “get away” with a crime. And, for all you posters claiming he did the right thing, and you would have done it too, well, according to this killer, he REGRETS having taken TWO lives over STUFF! And he would have never gone outside if he could do it all over again. This man killed two people over replaceable items. There’s no justice in this! This is vigilante INjustice. Antiquated Texas penal code got this killer off. And if you don’t think race has ANYTHING to do with this, you’re an imbicile.

  • N3w0rl3@ns

    @ jorge-

    l0l no i aint really up on the fball, but i knew he played for us before…the only point i was trying to make though was that the name wasn’t from “redneck descent (lol)” not really so much that he still played for us.

  • homegirl

    The 911 call tells it all. He had no right to go outside and murder anyone. He is a killer, and he got away with murder!!

  • samira

    The fact that he disobeyed the suggestions of the 911 operator and took the law into his own hands should be grounds for criminal prosecution. The criminals threatened him because he came outside; something he was advised NOT to do.

    Those men would have most likely been caught by the authorities. They did not deserve to die.

  • A. Make it Rayn

    <—– Live from Houston, a few mile sfrom where it all went down.. People that look like me are upset this morning and i am so surprised at the lack of solidarity this board is expressing for dead people that look like us. I’m trying to find the 911 call now, but let me tell you, he screamed, “You’re dead” after he left his house for the sole purpose of killing these men. He shot them in their backs- against the protests of the dispatcher- and said, “They’re not getting away with this. I’m not letting them go.” He made the decision that the lives and families of these men were worth less than 2Gs altogether. So what if they were Colombianos? They were human. You don’t try, convict, and give the death penalty because somebody robbed some shyte that ain’t even yours. Disgusting.

  • cosmoyuki

    he shud have shot dem in da leg or sumthing instead of killing them bt it is their own fault they shouldnt be trespassing on others property and taking whta they have worked hard for

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    Uh, are you defending the criminals? For all of you not from Texas please believe self defense and defense of others is taken very seriously as is the right to bare arms. I’m shocked this man went to trial at all. Criminals in Texas know better than anyone that they are more at risk of getting a cap busted in their ass during the crime than getting the death penalty. These two idiots knew what was up.

  • SexxyMocha

    First of all they got what they deserved The two people were robbing somebody house Whats wrong with america. You put yourself in that predicament That what happens to you.

  • Lauren

    They way you live is the way you die, these people thought they could make a living stealing other peoples stuff, I don’t blame the man.

  • kaybaybay

    I can’t believe anyone is actually defending career criminals who would have ended up killing somebody.

  • cliff

    @Marquis

    Texas law is flawed. I’m not sympathizing with criminals at all. I just know that too many injustices to illegal immigrants and minorities happen in Texas. Furthermore, the law is there to protect us. He called 911. The purpose of calling 911 is to call for protection from criminal element. After the 911 operator who is trained in these situations told his monkey ass to stay inside he chose to go grab his gun and kill him some “border jumpers”. i’m not buying that “they got what they deserve”. this guy took the law into his own hands and should be punished. if any one of us would have done that, we would be labeled lawbreakers with intent to kill. this is such a load of crap. if you call me sympathizers of criminals, i say you are too. because that guy who shot the criminals is a damn criminal himself. he’s just lucky he did that in BUSH-TEXAS.

  • kaybaybay

    Too many illegal immigrants commit crimes then get away with it by running back to their country. This is a prime example.Except this time they didn’t get away with it. Where is the sympathy for their victims.

  • cliff

    i urge everyone to listen to the 911 tape before you go calling people criminal sympathizers.

  • kaybaybay

    Heard it and i don’t sympathize with career criminals. I sympathize with their victims.

  • A. Make it Rayn

    This is truly the end of the world. It is obvious that centuries of eurocentric, capitailst, individualistic, and cultural misorientation has seeped into the brains of our people and cannot be deterred. He shot those men in their backs because he thought they were Black. Period. Defending criminals? No one said they should have been stealing in the first place- but damn- death is an appropriate punishment? No trial- just bullets in the back, huh? We are so quick to hold on to tangible things that you would take 2 lives to protect something that no one asked you to. Craziness.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Cliff

    Why do i get the impression that if the criminals were white, you’d be okay with it?

  • Juancito

    I ain’t mad at him having a gun and looking out for his neighbors but, you can tell he wanted to kill them. Hell, he even said it on the call.

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    The two suspected burglars, Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were unemployed illegal immigrants from Colombia. Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction.

    How does an ILLEGAL immigrant even have any rights especially when they’re committing crimes???? F%^K ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS – one of them was deported and snuck back in the country!?! And besides they aint black anyway. And who’s to say if someone was home in the house they robbed they wouldnt have killed an innocent person?

  • BG

    I understand protecting your self, as well as self defense…BUT… the only part that disturbs me is the—> You want to make a bet?” Horn answered. “I’m going to kill them”… thats pre-meditated murder… he could have shot them in the arms, legs, hell arms and legs… I’m just saying….Even tho you can kill some one by just shooting an arm or leg…. I dunno… but I do think that if they hadn’t been out robbing and ish, then they would still be alive today, maybe….

  • kaybaybay

    A. Make it Rayn…..Would be okay then if they were white? Since were assuming things lets assume the people were home at the time and the robbers killed them. Would it be okay then? What direction are we going in that we should think its okay to victimize people.

  • http://www.logodesignerscompany.com Samuel L. Jackson

    YES! they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!!!

  • The Bear

    He got the benifit of the doubt and then some…

    The biggest question is the fact that they were shot in the back which tends to undermine the assertion that they threatened him. But then again it seems like Texas law allows you to kill someone who is threatening you OR your property. Wow!!! (I don’t think many jealous exes in Texas are gonna be keying cars after this one.)

    But seriously…

    As a nation it seems we are really fed up with crime so most people don’t have a problem with what Joe Horn did.

    The jury has spoken!!!

  • necy

    @ Samuel L.

    Co-Sign

  • http://www.myspace.com/angieatkins Angy

    He got off easy cause they’re ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Of course he’s not going to jail. Plus these were Afro-Columbians, and this man shot them in the State of Texas which has no laws on a U.S. Citizen killing or harming any illegal immigrant. So not only is the state of TX screwed up, but they’re extremely racist down there. Suppose a random white man shot a black girl coming home from school…all he can say is “self defense” and he’ll probably be rewarded a congressional Medal of Honor. Sad.

  • http://www.logodesignerscompany.com Samuel L. Jackson

    @ Cliff – good point – but the owner of that human life has the responsibility of maintaining it. If the robbers valued their life , they wouldnt be 6 ft deep right now.

  • kaybaybay

    Do laws really protect anyone? Child molesters serve less than a year in prison sometimes they avoid jail all together. Robbers serve a few years time then release back on the street to rob again this time they kill you because they don’t want to get caught. Murders get a few years in prison get released kill again. Who is going to protect me?

  • cliff

    Marquis, its not about white or black. My point is, the 911 lady told him not to go outside. He said “I’m gonna kill them”. And he DID! He shot them in the back.

    = Unprovoked, Premeditated Murder

  • WTF?

    Did someone just equate RAPING A 8 YR OLD GIRL with shooting two men whom you had witnessed burgalrizing your neighbor’s home in your front yard? That man in Lousiana derserves to be castrated by underfed sows as far as I’m concerned, and if you commit a crime AND trespass on some old man’s property in TEXAS of all places you better believe he has a gun. I am not saying two wrongs make a right – but they were not blameless in this. And to even THINK to compare child rape to shooting intruders as though they were on the same level b/c one perpretrator was white and the other black is complete nonsense. Not to mention you need to read a damn paper b/c they no longer allow people to be sentenced to death for child rape and so his sentence will be commuted to life with no chance of parole. smdh.

  • necy

    it doesn’t matter what color they are!!! they could be martians… THEY DESERVED IT!! and this is coming from a Hispanic.

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  • Marquis de Sade

    Cliff

    I heard the tape months ago, when it first reported. By the time cops would’ve arrived, they probably would’ve been gone. These were two career criminals – BIG LOST TO HUMANITY! They won’t be missed. Horn killing them, has saved the tax payers thousands of dollars in legal defense, housing and feeding them while incarcerated + the fact that he probably saved some innocent peoples’lives in the advent that these two would eventually kill someone due to their unlawful lifestyle. As far i’m concerned it’s “CHECKS AND BALANCES”. It all comes out in the wash.

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  • kaybaybay

    Samuel L. Jackson…YES! they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!!!!!

    ___________________________________________________

    LMAO! I bet you he said that in court. lmao

  • cliff

    @kaybabay

    so is the answer to fix the rule of law? or to grab your gun and take to the streets and kill all the child molesters??? Light the fire under your people and get politically active and help change the laws.

  • SweetDiva

    No doubt the burglars were criminals but you all need to look at the disparity in our justice system.

    When a Black man on Long Island shot and killed a drunken white teenager on his porch he was convicted of murder. The teenager and a bunch of his equally drunk friends trespassed on the black man’s property and threatened to harm his son. The white teenager grabs at the gun and it goes off. A black man cannot defend his own property and family without going to jail, but this white man can kill 2 people trespassing on someone else’s property and go home.

    The issue is not the race of the criminals but the race of perpetrator. Don’t any of you black people try the same shyt because you will be under the jail.

  • K.P

    it doesnt matter what they were doing.. the man committed premeditated murder…. he planned to go out there and shoot to kill regardless. it plain and simple. anybody who doesnt see it like that is wrong and his old ass should be sitting on death row rotting and so what if he is white and killed two hispanic men or black or asian. they did nothing to hurt him, his family or anything that affected him but he went and took their lives.. SMDH at this guys..

  • http://www.logodesignerscompany.com Samuel L. Jackson

    @ Marcus -

    It was reported that a plain clothes officer arrived on the scene and SAW THE WHOLE THING.

  • Sharie

    I have no sympathy for thieves. If u are bold enough to break into somebody’s house, be bold enough to get killed for it….

  • kaybaybay

    Actually the man who shot the teenager had his sentenced overturned. I seen it on the news.

  • Pandora

    He was within TX law to defend his property as well as his neighbor’s property. I don’t agree with his actions but he was well within the law.

  • cliff

    @Marquis

    The scary thing about this is that he shot them in the back. Which says to me that it could have been anybody, not even a robber that he could claim was on his property and shot them/him/her in the back and could have gotten off.

    And your version of checks and balances is not constitutional. even criminals have rights. and horn broke the law. whenever you shoot someone in the back that is NOT self defense.

  • cliff

    @necy

    shot in the back = murder; not self defense. try again.

  • N3w0rl3@ns

    when u do bad things, bad things happen to you!!

  • necy

    @ cliff

    So you are telling me that if 2 guys broke into your home for whatever reason and you had kids or family there.. YOU WOULDN’T KILL THEM?????? remember poor SEAN TAYLOR.. if he had a gun to kill the motha fu— HE MIGHT STILL BE ALIVE TODAY.. think about it!!!

  • Marquis de Sade

    Cliff

    I know it wasn’t self defense, it was justifiable homicide. Good for Horn and good for his neighbors.

  • q

    sorry, i’m riding with the whites and jury on this one – i would do the same and would hope my neighbors kill anyone trying to rob me and mine – illegal or otherwise, hispanic or otherwise

  • kaybaybay

    Robbery leads to murder.

  • A. Make it Rayn

    @ KayBayBay-

    who’s assuming things? Oh that’s right, all of the

    ” good job for shooting down thieves” posters. I assume nothing- the facts are cold enough.

    But to answer the “let’s assume”- I honestly- to my heart- would feel like this was murder if the victims were white.

    More sadly, the victims were afro-colombianos and were killed by this man because he admantly refused to let them get away with stealing. It hurts more that they look like me- but its premeditated mureder regardless of the races of the victims.

  • Somer

    I WISH JOE HORN WAS MY NEIGHBOR!

  • necy

    @ cliff

    shot in the back after committing a CRIME and still on his property!!! SELF DEFENSE..

    try, try again

  • N3w0rl3@ns

    @ necy—

    good point!!

  • cliff

    necy

    yes i would kill them if they broke into my house and i had a licensed gun.

    but they broke into the neighbor’s house. while nobody was home. he called 911 to report the crime and he went outside after operator told him not too. its not at all the same. his life wasnt in danger he was just being a jackass.

  • cliff

    necy he wasnt supposed to go outside.

    had that case been tried in new york; where i live and where people are subjective. the facts would have prevailed and that man would be behind bars for taking the law into his own hands.

  • The Bear

    Under this Texas law it seems Walmart can can hire armed security and order them to shoot shoplifters on site. The property must be protected right?

  • Just my opinion

    This is ridiculous that we are even debating this. They were thieves, breaking into someone’s home and stealing what these people worked hard to get. The minute they broke the glass and walked inside, they became criminals and lost the rights that should be afforded to law abiding citizens. And regardless of what some of you say, the operator was only telling him not to go out there because he/she deemed it unsafe, it was not law. Therefore, he did not break the law but they did….several times, from illegally being here to drug convictions etc. So he did what he needed to do. Period. Anyone who thinks any differently probably has some criminal in their family they are considering. I don’t have people in my family breaking into homes so I don’t care.

  • kaybaybay

    I don’t think its a they deserved to die thing its more that the guy was within his states laws. So it is not murder.

  • A. Make it Rayn

    Texas law is wack. Joe Horn is murderer. Can’t believe there’s even a discussion of any other way to see it. Anyone who heard th 911 tape should understand he was INTENT on killing these men.

  • Marquis de Sade

    It’s obvious that Cliff and his bleeding heart ilk doesn’t have anything, let alone principles. It’s easy for them to be cavalier about other victims stolen possessions, thus sypathizing with the criminals. Me, in this case, i subscribe to a more DRACONIAN style of justice. You break into someones home, you die!

  • tamika

    This man is a murderer that should have been sentenced to the fullest. He is a idiotic, stupid, senseless, pathetic looser that is clearly a racist. For all of you who applause of this are sick as well.

  • necy

    REMEMBER SEAN TAYLOR PEOPLE!!! poor guy… what was his mistake???? not having a gun to kill those MOTHA F’S who decided to commit a crime instead of get a damn job…

  • Just my opinion

    Furthermore if any of you had been in that home with a small child you would be kissing his feet that he did what he did. And if you say you wouldn’t you’re either lying or a complete idiot.

  • The Bear

    Our laws require that the punishment fit the crime.

  • Br0nxB0mber

    First of all they were colombian not black and if u know a lot of colombians like i do in nyc then u would know that the majority of them are very light skinned and not even close to black…newho…I’m glad he did what he did. He killed two ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CRIMINALS who could’ve robbed or harmed u or someone u know…u never know. It may have been a little unjust what he did but at the end of the day were those cats really a loss to society? HMMMM I THINK NOT!

  • cliff

    so i have no morals because i value life over possessions??? riiiiiiiiight.

    amen@tamika

  • LAMike

    Anyone here who ever had their house robbed wishes they neighbor did somethin like this instead of the standard “Nah, I didn’t see/hear nothin”. Props to Joe Horn, he can move in next to me anytime!

  • A. Make it Rayn

    House. Possesions. Things. These are people’s lives that were taken. Lives! They almost stole someone’s property (since technically, they must have dropped it at the scene as they were DYING) and in turn he stole their lives. Who should take aim at his back now?

  • Cat

    Educate your self first then have an opinion! This has nothing to do with Race. I really can not stand that people have to create race wars constantly. Get over yourselves and learn how to write and spell check your words you look like an idiot. First of all, if you have never been robbed in your home you have no idea what it feels like, so shut your stupid mouth. In Texas, there are laws to protect your personal property and those around you. I am not sure of the innocent in Rhode Island, but this happened in Texas and we are the only state in the union that is also recognized as it’s own country.. We have our own set of laws in this State! We have a saying here.. Don’t mess with Texas, I don’t care if your blue, orange, green.. You get on my property and I feel threatened I will shoot your A$$!! Don’t forget that! Stop defending criminals.. They lost there rights when they decided to break the law.. I am pretty sure it’s s against the law to break into someone else’s home in Columbia too!

  • kaybaybay

    Well their law says what he did was not a crime its not a race thing. Thats their laws. Protect yourself and your community.

  • cliff

    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    necy is scorned. thats why she think burglars should be shot in cold blood and dont deserve a trial. sorry sweety but thats not how the law works.

  • necy

    @topnotch

    I’m an Afro-Hispanic from Honduras!!! but I gotta go with the white man on this one… THEY DESERVED IT. just wait until it happens to you.. that’s all I’m saying…

  • kaybaybay

    They deserve a trial. So go to texas and try to change their laws. He was well within the law.

  • 2sexxy4U

    He could have shot them for doing wrong and went to jail, that would have been punishment enough, but to kill them is inhumane. I’m sorry but the bible says though shall not steal, and kill, at least they could have repented, instead of losing their life for some bull.

  • necy

    @ cat

    THANK YOU!!!

  • N3w0rl3@ns

    hey tamika,

    learn how to spell LOSER before u call someone one!!

  • necy

    SEAN TAYLOR… it can happen to you or your loved ones!!! THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE….

    @cliff

    @tamika

    @2sexxy4u

  • lisa

    Illegal immigrants??they should have kept there butts in Columbia. Sorry, but they got what they deserved. It’s not racist, it’s not murder, IT IS DEFENDING WHAT IS YOURS!!!

    Just because you are dealing with 2 different races doesn’t make it racial. If it had been 2 black men killed, you bet the NAACP, and all those other “HATE” clubs would be all over this-yes I said HATE club-they are no different then the KKK.

  • MAKE EM SWEAT

    @ Marquis de Sade

    For you to measure the value or worth of any mans life is beyond arrogant & truly not for you to do. Should old dude have came out blasting? That depends on his motive for doing it which only him and God truly know. {All the ways of a man are clean in his own sight, But the Lord weighs the motives). Knowledge is Power.

  • Sunshine305

    I think he should have pulled up in a pick up truck, sounded that “la cucaracha” horn, said he had a house that needed painting, promised them $1,000 then drove straight to the immigration office!

    Then shot em!

  • Sunshine305

    @ Lisa,

    The NAACP is not a hate club, kinda outdated and needs to appeal to the youth, but not a hate club, you must be white.

  • The Bear

    @ Marquise

    Living through a few things has taught me foresight and the importance of careful thought before rushing to judgment.

    Now it may sit well with you since the dudes were burglars. But what if it were your teenaged nephew who hops a nieghbors fence to retrieve a football that flew over. Then another nieghbor thinks he’s trying to steal something and shoots him in the back.

    Or you go knock on a someone’s door to ask a question and they shoot you in the face.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Topnotch

    Hey! Newsflash fvcktard. The era of “LIBERAL WHITE GUILT” is over with! Just because a neighborhood is predominantly white, does not give anyone the right (be they black, mexican, etc) to break into anyones’home. Stop listening to all that gangsta rap, it’s starting to warp your sense of reality.

  • Blacksmith

    What people aren’t understanding is that each state has its own gun laws and what constitutes self defense and defense of property. Here in Georgia a law was just passed that allows licensed gun owners the right to carry concealed weapons in public places (i.e. buses, restaurants, parks). That law was passed by the STATE of Georgia, so if you live in another state you cannot treat the laws of different states the same.

    Texas is NO JOKE when it comes to the right to bear arms. They have very liberal gun laws and that’s how it’s always been, again, in Texas. This man was cleared by a GRAND JURY OF HIS PEERS!! Meaning other gun owners reviewed the evidence and followed the laws in the state of Texas and thought he should be cleared.

    I’m from upstate NY, and my father was a hunter and ex-military. He was a liscensed gun owner and had loaded guns placed throughout his home in the event someone tried to break in. (there were several attempts made on his home) I am thankful that he was not home when the attempts were made because who knows what would have happened.

  • Sunshine305

    AH mo’git me a shotgun and kill all the whitey’s ah see!

  • Marquis de Sade

    Bear

    Spare me the cheap rationalizations and suppositions. By your rational, the criminal should’ve practiced proper social etiquette and knocked before robbing. Fvck you!

  • necy

    @cliff

    I’m sure that poor Sean Taylor had insurance… what good did that do???????????????? I have Insurance and an alarm system too but, that’s not the point… it’s the principal of it all..

  • kaybaybay

    I still don’t see how this was racist.

  • The Bear

    I remember when i was in college in New Orleans there was a case in Baton Rouge where an innocent Japanesse exchange student simply knocked on a door to ask directions (it was at night). The homeowner shot and killed him on sight. He wasn’t charged because La. laws are similar to Texas’.

  • Lauren

    have you heard the tape? im not sympathizing with them because they were dead wrong, but since when is the punishment for stealing death? if thats the case anybody that steals..being it candy, deodorant,,,ect.. the owner of the store NEXT DOOR has the right to shot them dead! that man was wrong and a racist..point blank..and what yall dont know is that as soon as the man shot them the police were right there!! so they wouldve gotten caught anyway

    _________________________________________________

    What if they had shot this man first? Or what if they had guns on them, it would be different if it were your home being invaded with families asleep. You never know what could happen he had the oppurtunity and he took it. If Ihad the oppurtunity to protect my family and I didn’t then I would blame myself for something happening, I’m not saying they should have died, but they put themselves in that predicament. It is what it is.

  • necy

    @ LaMike

    Thank you sweets..

  • necy

    @ topnotch

    yeah, what if they had shot him first??? then what???? THANKS LAUREN FOR that one..

  • http://www.myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    Top Notch

    The punishment for stealing is death when you get caught in the act by the victim or anyone else who sees you and is strapped and not afraid to pull the trigger. At that moment theft is punishable by death. It’s in our constitution. Check it out.

  • Rozza

    I work hard for the things I have. Not that material possessions are above human life, but when does it end? First, it starts with blatantly climbing in your window and putting hands all over what you have worked for. It is not a stretch to think it can escalate into bolder behavior by criminals, black or white.

    Shooting someone in the back, not a good thing. But I have been robbed before, and have had neighbors robbed. It is humiliating, nauseating, and it hurts that your security and well-being have been breached by someone who won’t earn his own but would rather hijack yours. Oh yeah – try sleeping after an incident. After standing outside talking to your neighbors and friends trying to make sense of it all, you go to your home and stay tense and awake all night. Most of these guys will do it again and again just like Groundhog Day, and will hurt you rather than get caught.

    Personally – I would have shot them at the knees, just so they can think about it for the rest of their lives. People are tired of being “kinder and gentler” to those who don’t give a damn, and I refuse to defend these two who should not have been here in the first place.

    Peace :-)

  • The Bear

    I’m not denying that we have a right to protect ourselves and property by using deadly force. (Unlike you, I’ve actually had to do it) So im not just here ignorantly running my mouth. But shooting unarmed people who are trying to run away in the back??? where do you draw the line?

  • necy

    I ageee this is not about race!!!

  • necy

    @topnotch

    how is he supposed to know that they were unarmed??? is he a mind reader??? the cops found that out after the facts..

  • kaybaybay

    Topnotch….. i don’t agree with what are saying because this is based on their laws. There have been cases when the races were reversed and the black person did not go to jail. Which is why i don’t understand why anyone would think this is racist. Your thoughts are based on where you are from and the laws from your state. Look, robberies go wrong all the time they could of easily killed an entire family had they been home. Too many times this has happened. I personally feel like i have the right to protect my home and my family and i would hope my neighbors would feel the same way instead of closing the lights and hiding under their beds while my family gets victimized. I just don’t see this as a race thing. He was within the law which is why he didn’t go to jail.

  • Rozza

    @Cliff: Human rights works both ways, and criminals sometimes need motivation to think before they act. Had this man’s neighbor been home, it might have been even more tragic, and the headlines would be screaming about how illegals are the scourge of society. Whatever.

    BTW: These weren’t innocent kids retrieving a ball, or knocking on doors selling cookies. They were repeat offenders and had been busted as illegal before.

  • necy

    @topnotch

    even after calling the police I would still shoot them too!!! you don’t know if they were coming back to take hostages when they saw the police coming.. then what???????????

  • A. Make it Rayn

    @topnotch,

    -Politely interjecting-

    I would argue he never needed to know if they were armed or not. He should’ve stayed in the house.

  • Neek

    Being a person who’s home has been burgularized before, I understand the whole “good, they got what they deserved” feelings. But in the scheme of things, in my case they stole a playstation, IPod, and broke a mirror, these things total about $500.00. Now for me or anyone else to kill someone over $500.00 is not right. The bible says an eye for an eye, you can’t hand out the death penalty for stealing, that is overkill. You know, my girlfriend has a 19 year old son in college. He came home early one day about a month ago, and left his keys at his dorm. He went into the back yard, opened the bathroom window and climbed in. Now a neighbor saw this and called the police. Police came, he was arrested for breaking and entering, but of course it was all straightened out once his mom came and explained who he was. Thank God, Joe Horn didn’t live next door, he’d be dead! The point is this, if we all take the law in our own hands, we all become vigilantes, and then we have a world where any and every suspicious behavior seen will result in someone being shot and killed. If the men had been armed then understandable, but because they were NOT armed, and were obviously running AWAY from Joe Horn, then he acted with malicious intent, he was blood thirsty. There is no way anyone can justify this.

  • Anonymous

    So…….I have to agree with this guy. They shouldn’t be robbing his house. Crooks should be the ones’s who are SCARED to go into someone else’s house. Not the person who owns the house. With the recent Supreme Court ruling, we are going to see a lot more of these stories. As a homeowner and law bidding citizen…I don’t see anything wrong with this story. (RACE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT)

  • The Bear

    @ Rozza

    You never know who any stranger that enters your property. Do you?

  • Sunshine305

    Dude didnt have to shoot them, he couldve just yelled “INS freeze” and they would have died from heart attacks!

  • Sunshine305

    Doesnt he look like Archie Bunkers brother?

  • Anonymous

    For everyone who thinks “He should of stayed in the House”….Let’s not forget Sean Taylor. He was minding his own business, in HIS house and he was gunned down by some punk. I say kill them before they have a “chance” to kill you!!!!!!

  • The Bear

    Let me be clear!!! I believe we have a right to protect ourselves and property. But with every right comes responsibility to use proper judgement.

    Do you all believe the police should have the right to shoot unarmed suspects who are running away?

  • Sunshine305

    @ ladyofLondon,

    First i think Joe horn would burn a cross on your front lawn if you moved next door to him, second you could have dinner with him, only you’d be cooking and serving it, and hell nah you can’t sit at that table! You eat the scraps that they couldnt finish in the kitchen!

  • A. Make it Rayn

    @ Anonymous

    Whoa, buddy. Then let’s just kill everyone looking at us sideways; they might try to kill you, right?

  • WordzOfaProphet (I wudn’t say it if I aint mean it)

    @Marquis de Sade

    You wouldn’t possibly understand my point. Im not empathizing or siding with the criminal cuz they were both wrong. They were wrong for being illegal immigrants out for all they could steal from ppl that actually go to work and work hard for what they have, but valuables can be replaced. What can’t be replaced is the lives that JOE HORN decided to take when he played JOHNNY LAW!!! His ass should have been indicted. Cuz if it were the other way around, a black man wouldn’t be wondering in JUne if he was gonna c the inside of a jail he would have known back in November when it happened.

  • angie

    I think Bird said it best Texas state motto is…Dont mess with Texas!

  • Sunshine305

    @ the bear,

    Did the people running away steal from me? Then yes

    Did they steal from someone other than me? Then no

  • Marquis de Sade

    “Do you all believe the police should have the right to shoot unarmed suspects who are running away?”

    Hell yeah! If you’re innocent, you shouldn’t be resistin’arrest. A lot of these cops are overweight and trigger happy as is. Why antagonize the situation? Better yet. Don’t break the law!

  • angie

    And to the people saying he put himself in danger when he went outside….if he had just let them go on about their business robbing his neighbors he would have done nothing but let some dangerous people be on the lose in his neighborhood making it a more dangerous place to live

  • Lauren

    omg are you serious????

    you must didnt hear the tape! how did they even have time to threatent this man when he went out there and said move and your dead then shot? all this was in the matter of seconds!!! come on ppl!!

    ______________________________________________

    You don’t have time to think when you’re family is in danger you either react or suffer consequences.

  • MINDSLAVE

    certain groups of men have been getting away with killing certain other groups of men since the middle passage.

  • angie

    smdh@ mindslave

  • Rozza

    @The Bear: If someone enters my home unknown and uninvited, I do not know them. But they don’t know me, either. Choice of “vocation” puts them in danger, but they are too stupid to realize that.

    Like my mother used to say “Stop runnning and resisting or this ass whipping is gonna be so much worse!”

    @Marquis: Hey – what’s up? Haven’t seen you here in a minute.

  • Terminator Hex

    @ Prince

    “tell me this what makes joe horn any differnt then the two columbians”

    Easy. He’s not a criminal.

  • Wanted

    @rozza- cosign

    I wish he had shot them in the knees or ass, but not in the back.

    There wsa a local story here where a man was convicted for killing a guy trying to steal his car out of his driveway. He was on leave from Iraq and asleep on the couch when he heard the guy outside. He chased the guy about a half mile and shot him in the back as he tried to climb a fence. He was recently convicted.

    Similiar story, different state makes all the difference! The wantabe car thief was also illegal.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    @Marquis de Sade

    We can have a conversation…but I will NOT BE CALLED A N*GGER…OKAY? Thanks in advance.

    Just because we don’t agree…no need for name calling.

  • WordzOfaProphet (I wudn’t say it if I aint mean it)

    4 those of u who don’t see how this is a racist matter, you obviously don’t live in Pearland. Cuz them ppl is some of the most racist ppl around Houston. They act like proper rednecks with money. Now if you travel to less beautiful parts like South Park and whatnot, you wouldn’t catch them over there. They stay to themselves.

    IT’s not enough 2 read the transcript you have to have actually heard the maliciousness in his voice. He had his heart on killing them not only because they were robbing his neighbor (who he didn’t even know) but because he saw dark skin and thought Diego Ortiz and Hernandez were black

  • necy

    @ fiddy

    thank you, thank you.. tell that to IGNORANT ASS topnotch…

  • The Bear

    Im sick of the crime situation in America too. We do have a right to respond; all Im asking is “where do we draw the line”?

    I have learned the hard way how unpredictabe life can be and how easy it really is to find oneself in a situation you never imagined remotely possible.

    I guess most people will support the right to shoot fleeing parties in the back until/unless they or someone they care about is the fleeing party.

  • N.S

    Legally speaking, he was in the wrong. In order for you to claim self defense, you have the obligation to 1) flee from danger. If they follow you (which they didn’t) you have the right to meet force with force. I don’t care if they were robbing his neighbor’s house, there was no violent crime being committed and he killed them nothing. Two thousand dollars worth of property is nothing. SMH

  • Rozza

    @wanted: I work every day for my life, and to have someone so blatant and bold to decide “She can do without her possessions, oh BTW – let me beat her ass, and wreck the rest of her stuff I don’t want.” These guys almost never have any remorse, and when you see them in court, they look like they are alrready dead in the eyes. They will most likely come back – maybe not to you, but to somebody.

    Besides, why should honest law-abiding citizens walk around saying “Well, at least he only took my things and didn’t hurt me or kill me.” I would rather be the one giving the police report about the shooting than be a headline in the obituary.

  • LadyofLondon

    >>

    I honestly don’t care…their DEAD…D>O>A! I’m just stating my opinion….Joe did what he WANTED to do and in turn he took 2 criminals off the street. Should he have taken the law into his own hands…NO!! So I see both sides and RESPECT BOTH opinions…..but my OPINION” is still the same. NO sweat off my brow or yours…they did a criminal act that resulted in their a$$ get’n capp’d.

  • WordzOfaProphet (I wudn’t say it if I aint mean it)

    @Terminator HEX

    Joe Horn is a criminal, he shot and killed 2 men in the back. Killing somebody is bad enuff cuz who are you to play GOD and take a life, but 2 shoot somebody in the back???…dats just about the lowest thing you can do

  • intenzemocha

    KUMBAYA!! RIGHT????

    KEEP PREACHING THAT WE ARE THE WORLD RAINBOW NONSENSE!

    A SITUATION IN MY TOWN SIMILAR TO THIS OCCURRED, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THERE WAS ONLY ONE BURGULAR AND THE HOMEOWNER SHOT THE BURGULAR AS HE WAS LEAVING THE HOUSE AND HE NEVER WENT OUTSIDE LIKE THE ABOVE INTENTIONAL MURDERER-THIS MAN WAS CONVICTED OF MURDER-BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT THE BURGULAR WAS LEAVING AND NO LONGER PRESENTED A THREAT TO THE HOMEOWNER

    NOW WHERE ALL THE LATINOS (CUBANS, HISPANICS, ETC) AT? & WHAT’S YOUR STAND ON THIS SITUATION?

  • Astropimp

    911 operators aren’t police officers! People rob & steal in America because they keep getting away with it. In other countries there are stiff consequences for that behavior. When I was in Ethiopia, people would chase you down to give you change. The sad thing is, with the allure of the “Thug Life” or being hood. Kids are putting their lives on the line for $200, $300, $2000! My life is worth more than that. Store robberies, home invasions, selling drugs… these are considered the easy come ups now. If they know that people will defend themselves, they may think twice.

    ANY REAL CRIMINAL KNOWS THAT THERE’S A RISK. BOOM!!!

    NO SYMPATHY!

  • necy

    @ topnotch

    I don’t live in the Getto like you… I have a 4500 sq ft home… married and not a single baby-mama on welfare like yourself… LOL

  • The Bear

    @ Marquisse

    I guess you also think the cops that shot Amadeu Diallo were justified. 41 times!!!

    We open up cans of worms without thinking of the possible long term impacts that inevitably result.

  • necy

    @topnotch

    I take care of your kids Bitc& because I work and pay taxes…

  • LadyofLondon

    <<<<<>>>>>>

    Ya’ll don’t have to act like that!WUSAAB!!! Aint no reason to be shooting slugs at each other over 1 white man and 2 dead criminals.

  • zeigeit

    Joe Horn is a racist gun loving pig. When I first heard the tape I knew he would get off because he lives in Texas. In another era he would be a proud card carrying member of the Klan.

    For God’s sake he shot them in the back, running away! Most criminals are cowards. $2000 in goods isn’t worth a human life. They should be in jail right now not in the ground.

  • Realmatic

    They got what they had coming to them.

  • The Bear

    If someone breaks into your home and you’re armed then yes I agree wholeheartedly you have every right to shoot to kill.

    If they’re running away… I don’t see myself shooting them in the back.

  • necy

    ohhh Topnotch

    you need to go take GED classes!!! you have very poor grammar sweetie… and spell my name correctly NECY… thanxs

  • http://youtube.com/fifitrooper {{ The INFAMOUS }} Ms. Sugar Walls

    damn

    I COME BACK IN THIS PIECE AND MUTHAFUCCCKAS WANT TO KILL JOE HORN! HAHAHA! IT IS MESSED UP THAT THE DUDES WAS ROBBING THE HOUSE..BUT WHO IS HE TO KILL PEOPLE, JUST BECAUSE THEY MOVED..WHEN HE SAID BE STILL? HE SHOULD GET CHARGED FOR THAT! IF IT WAS A BLACK MAN…HE WOULD BE CHARGED FOR THAT CRIME! NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

    SO…MY CONCLUSION

    THE WORLD IS STILL RACIST, AND MARK MY WORDS..JUST WAIT TO OBAMA BE ELECTED..WHITE MUTHAFUCCKAS ISN’T GOING TO KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEMSELVES.

    DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT DAVE CHAPELLE EPISODE WHEN HE WAS A BLIND K K K? AND WHEN HE REMOVED HIS HOOD..THE WHITE PEOPLE WAS SO DISTURBED THAT THEY HEAD BLEW UP? I CAN JUST IMAGINE THAT AS SOON AS OBAMA IS BEING SWORN IN TO OFFICE! LOL

  • DaPro

    I heard the recording on the Tom Joyner show ahile back, this country azz mofo was itching to kill somebody

    You could hear it in his voice and he let the dispatcher know he was intending to kill the robbers. Damn that’s crazy

  • kaybaybay

    Topnotch…I get what your saying and there are racist people everywhere. I don’t know the man so i don’t know if he’s a racist. I know there is too much sympathy for these repeat criminals because they look black. As a citizen who abides by the law i don’t appreciate being robbed. Too many people are tired of being victimized and then waiting for the police to do nothing about it. What do you think the law would have done IF they were even caught? I tell you what they would have spent a little time in jail then release to do it again until eventually killing someone. They were in the country illegally, they were arrested previously on cocaine charges what do you think the next crime would be? It all leads to eventually taking an innocent persons life. We need to protect ourselves,family,friends. The law does not always work in favor of the victims.

  • The Bear

    This is a slippery slope you people are treading on when you condone unarmed fleeing suspects being shot on sight.

    I’m warning you.

  • Sick

    Bang!Bang!Bang! NonCitizen+Criminal+Brown=Death

    On the flipside

    Murder+WhiteMan+Columbia+Mob=Revenge

  • http://www.myspace.com/ocky_j Octavia

    Ok, this case is cut and bone dry:

    ““You want to make a bet?” Horn answered. “I’m going to kill them.”

    After the shooting, he redialed 911.

    “I had no choice,” he said, his voice shaking. “They came in the front yard with me, man. I had no choice. Get somebody over here quick.”

    1) he admitted premeditation

    2) he was clearly NOT in harm’s way. He was in his home on the phone. They were outside

    This is murder 1, period.

  • Judge

    People forget the real story not only did he tell the police he was gonna kill them(remeditated murder) but it’s not even HIS HOUSE..where are the owners of the house at!!!! This could have all been a plan for Insurance Money!!!Valubles don’t equal life!!!I hope OJ did it!!

  • The Bear

    @ Judge

    I don’t think they cleared him of murder based upon self defense. I think they cleared him based upon protection of property. I think its a dangerous verdict and the law is potentially very dangerous because situation won’t always involve burglars.

    What happens when ownership of the property is in dispute between the two parties? Does the party with the quickest draw prevail?

    Slippery slope folks.

  • kaybaybay

    Topnotch…Unfortunately these people blocked youtube :-( but i feel you and i see where your heart is but i just don’t see it as racist. Maybe he did want to just kill somebody. But he is protected under the states law. I don’t know its been real but now i’m hungry. peeaaaceeee

  • Barron

    Joe Horn was intent upon killing these guys, because he did not want them to get away with his neighbors’stuff. An undercover cop was already there waiting to arrest the two men, when they reached the street. Horn came out of his house and shot them in the back. The undecover cop testified that he ducked down in his car so tha Horn wouldn’t think he was the getaway guy and shoot him too. This guy is extremely dangerous and should be locked up. He shot three shots. He shot each one once in the back and then shot one another time, to make sure he was dead. That is murder. They were unarmed and were trying to get away. They did not threaten him. They had to cross his yard to get away. He came out and shot them. Uniformed officers were seconds away. If you people think the death penalty is warranted for burgulary, then lets just shoot all crakck heads, DUI drivers, and shoplifters. Let’s just kill everyone who breaks the law.

  • The Bear

    @ Barron

    And if the cops catch you speeding (which endangers the lives and property of others) they should be able to shoot.

    Like that Stallone movie “Judge Dread”.

  • http://myspace.com/afiya00 Afiya

    In desperate times…people do desperate things…wait until this recession hits home…

    It ain’t gonna be pretty.

  • necy

    topnotch

    now get your lazy ignorant ass of the computer and go feed your kids…

  • OakCliffChick

    The people who live in the surrounding Houston area know that Pasadena is known as a racist town; straight up! The man was not threatened by the two men. How much of a threat could the men pose if in the end they were shot in the back? The men were unarmed and this man comes out the house with a shot gun. I know how the scenario went acoording to the phone call. The man wanted to shot those guys, period point blank. If I’m unarmed and some crazy guy comes out the house, guess what I’m gonna do? RUN!!

    I’m not trying to take up for the actions of the robbers; they were wrong, no doubt about it. But according to the law in Texas, you can shot someone on a neighbor’s property if and and only if the neighbor has given you authority to watch their house while they’re away.

    The guys were not on his property, they were trying to get away; hence being shot in the back. Joe was wrong for that in my opinion.

  • http://www.myspace.com/ocky_j Octavia

    Can one of Horn’s supporters PLEASE explain to me how this is NOT first degree murder?

    I really need to hear the law behind this one.

  • NotoriousOne

    What’s troubling w/ this story is the fact that in the case of John White (Google his story).

    “White testified during the trial that he was trying to protect his family when he brandished a gun last year after a group of angry white teens showed up at his doorstep late on Aug. 9, 2006, to confront his then-19-year-old son, Aaron.”

    Why is it that in this case the black man is found guilty and yet Joe Horn is found innocent? This is the inequality that America refuses to acknowlegdge.

  • WhatTheHell?

    Since when is robbery punishable by death in the good ol’US of A??? I might feel differently if he hadn’t said that he was going to kill them. That’s premeditation. He was advised not to go outside and he didn’t take that advice. In this country one is not allowed to play judge, jury and executioner. We’re supposed to be a civilized society. He should have gotten some type of punishment. Even a corrupt human life is worth more than 2 G’s. Human beings are God’s property. He decides when they come here, and He should decide when they leave.

  • Lucy

    And they’re blaming him why??? I would hope my neighbor would care enough about me to do that. the way the system works now these two probably would have robbed 100 other people before they got caught.

  • LadyofLondon

    some of you seem mad that they didn’t get away with those items so you can “purchase” it on the black market! We know how you got that flat screen tv.that computer you typin’on..lol! Stop playing the race card…it’s old. RACE is ALIVE but it doesn’t apply to every situation.

  • intenzemocha

    The law only is enforced or applied when you are non-white

    It’s hilarious how people are trying to justify the killing of these two men because they were committing a crime and the fact that they believe the reason this man was acquitted was because his victims were non-white

    we rationalize what we can’t comprehend and what we really are trying to do is make ourselves believe if you adhere to the law that a white person would view you as equal and therefore you would never encounter a situation like this…..

    RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL-AND DON’T SLEEP NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, WHAT KIND OF CAR YOU DRIVE, HOW EDUCATED YOU ARE-THE ONE THING WHITE PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS HAVE OVER US-IS THERE “WORD” IS ALWAYS BELIEVED OVER OURS, AND WE ARE ALWAYS CONSIDERED GUILTLY UNLESS YOU HAVE A VIDEOTAPE TO PROVE OTHERWISE (EVEN THAT DOESN’T WORK ALWAYS)-THEY ARE TYPICALLY GIVEN THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT-IF THE “GOOD OLE BOY” SAID HE DIDN’T MEAN TO MURDER THEM-THEN THE “GOOD OLE JUDGE” HAS NO OTHER CHOICE THAN TO LET EM GO….THEIR PROBABLY COUSINS…

  • LadyofLondon

    But all jokes aside: Ya’ll should cut out all the name calling. voice your opinion and move around…………PEACE my brotha’s aaaaand SISTA’s

  • OakCliffChick

    intenzemocha……that same week in Houston there was a Black man who was arrested for shooting and killing a dog ON HIS PROPERTY that was attacking his kids! A DOG!

  • N.S

    @ WhattheHell

    They love the cheap labor, but they don’t want them to reproduce and make more non white people. As Bill O’Reilly put it, nonwhites want to “break down the white, Christian power structure.”

  • gorgeous chocolate pixie

    u stupid folks the two columbian were robbing his neighbors house, horn didn’t even know them..

  • Nikki2

    yALL STOP SUCKIN UP TO THESE CRIMMINALS… an crimminal is a crimminal no matter how u put it. why waste time on a trial and out tax dollars shipping them out, thats my tax dolllars.. we need more ppl like joe horn, save me some money

  • Jo Jo

    You break in my house, or my neighbors house, and you can expect to get shot. Be it the back, the side, the front, or whateva. I’m going to get yo azz. Think real hard before you decide to rob someone else’s hard earned stacks.

  • Whatever

    *sigh*

    ONLY in Texas. Vigilante justice. It’s all about Texas’s castle laws which allows you to defend yourself on your own property. Any other state this man would be in jail where he belongs.

  • JG

    Sucks they got shot over just stealing but….. IF you f*ck around and break into someone’s house, you might f*ck around and get shot. Thats the rules, you chose to live that way so you have to deal with the consequences.

  • ah, the united states of america…the only place where criminals receive sympathy for getting what they deserve!

    this website is super ignorant when it comes to reporting news…it always seems to be based on race/ethnicity.

  • Shayla

    I am from Texas matter a fact 20 mins away from where dude lives and all I can say is I wish I had him as a neighbor and this is a black female speaking. I tell you one thing i bet no one will ever try to break into anyones house again on that street. Those dudes knew the consequences when they broke into those people house and what if those people would have been home? Wold those columbians have killed them? I think we need more neighbors like him. My neighbors just got broken into and i tell you I wish someone would have bust one in those robbers as to show them a lesson.

  • Bosandi

    Amen JoJO.

    Joe Horn can be my neighbor any day.

    You rob me – I shoot you. Seems fair.

  • LetItBeAMansWorld_AsLongAsICanBeAWomanInIt

    For everyone saying that what this man did was in his own right, and you would have done the same, ask yourselves the question that will give you the CORRECT answer… WWJD? People are so caught up with material possessions, and quick to judge and throw stones at each other, when in all actuality the right thing to do was report the crime, as he did, and let things fall to place. Let the ONLY Judge make his judgement on the men and decide what was to come of their wrong doing. Had it been His house, His property then it could’ve been called self defense, and in his right to defend himself.

  • Why?

    Let’s assume (some would say we don’t have to assume)- this man is racist through-and-through. There is not one person who live anywhere in America, who doesn’t know that STEALING IS WRONG. With that said, what black man in America (immigrant or otherwise) doesn’t know that there are racist in any given place – especially in Texas – just waiting for a reason to do what Mr. Horn did? WHY WHY WHY would your dumb black ass set yourself up to give him a reason. @Sam Jackson – I agree, the onus (sp?) was on them to value their own lives. Clearly they did not.

  • Houston Resident

    I live in Houston, and I remember the day this happened. This is not a race thing like many of y’all are making it out to be. Houston has over 400,000 illegal immigrants, and alot of them, not all, have turned Houston into a crime ridden city. We’re tired of it. If Joe Horn would have shot 2 white people..would yall still feel the same? I hate when black people always turn everything into a race issue.

  • http://deleted It

    So…I’m supposed to feel sympathy for men who were murdered in the course of ROBBING somebody’s home? GTFOH with that! They could’ve been victimizing people in all kinds of ways. If I see that you’re capable of robbing how do I know you’re not capable of worse…rape, murder…You come into someone’s home to take THEIR peace of mind, security, stability, and valuables then you need to be prepared for the worst because you shouldn’t have done it – period. I have little sympathy for those that victimize others regardless of race.

  • http://deleted It

    My Christian side knows he is wrong for taking a life and he shouldn’t have but my flesh tells me to protect myself and others and although he shouldn’t have murdered them, I just can’t fault dude for shooting criminals in the neighborhood where his family lives and sleeps. What if their home had been next? What if those robbers had been rapists/murderers too? What if they had gotten away and murdered somebody tomorrow? Sorry…still lakcing sympathy for criminals. I’m seriously going to pray on that! Have a blessed day y’all!

  • justaddhotmilk aka phoenix_simone_xoxo aka she got legs

    I don’t know about this one, its hard to say what I would or would not have done in that situation. when you are pumped up on adrenaline and fear, you may not think rationally. If the guys did infact come into Horn’s yard and threatened him, he had ever right to defend himself. However, if someone’s back is facing you then there is no sign of a threat. They may have been charging towards him, and after seeing the shotgun tried to flee, but if you are pumped with fear more than likely you will react. For instance if someone is trying to hit me, I am not going to wait for them to land a punch before I strike. Also, I personally dont feel that anyone in there right mind would decide not to use force against someone because the offender is of the same race. I believe that if the suspects were white Mr. Horn would’ve done the same thing.

  • http://deleted It

    Sorry to keep typing and this will be my last one, but some of you are saying that because the robbers were in shot in the back they must not have been THAT BAD and didn’t deserve to die behind. While I believe their punishment received was def unlawful and he had no legal right – THESE MEN WENT INTO SOMEONE ELSE’S HOME AND TOOK MORE THAN THEIR VALUBLES!!! What if the people being robbed had been home? This isn’t some racist redneck who went to the local store looking to shoot innocent minorities HE SHOT BURGLARS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD! He may be racist and the way the law is interpreted is most likely racist as well, but he shot BLATANT CRIMINALS. Lord have mercy on all their souls.

  • blow

    I would have blasted the cocksuckers just as quick.

  • Kassie BK 4lyfe

    ^^^^^^^ LMAO!!! I KNOW THATS RIGHT!! i call that a damn GOOD neighbor!

  • Ghost

    So I have a question-

    Who plays Joe Horn in the Lifetime (or HBO or Showtime or IGO) movie adaptation of all this?

    You know someone in Hollywood is getting that blank check ready to give someone for the story rights to this.

  • mo

    Good for Him!!! He should have gotten off! I live in Texas and the law is if someone is robbing you OR YOUR NEIGHBOR you have the right to shoot them!!! maybe these dumb ass people who are out robbing folks wiill take a look at this and think twice!

  • Ms. Lady

    I would think the same as many of you if he wasn’t talking to the 911 operator before going outside. Everyone keep saying “what if”. “What if” didn’t happen. If he went outside to “defend” his neighbor and was injured in any kind of way, I would agree, but it did’t happen that way. So what a TV or jewerly or what ever was stolen. You still have your health and a home/house to go to.

    Some people don’t like their neighbors all in their business. I would be happy if someone informed me that someone robbed or tried to rob me. I wouldn’t expect them st say, “Don’t worry about it though, I killed their ass”!!

  • Ms. Lady

    I wouldn’t expect them to say, “Don’t worry about it though, I killed their ass”!!

    No one should did over a TV. Criminal or not

  • squomp

    VIVA YOUTUBE!!!!

  • girlz_luv_me

    damn right..i love the fact that in the south u have the right to bear arms..every1 has the right to defend their homes..and if u think for a sec some1 is gonna violate my home and get away with it..especially if its the home of my kids..u have another thing coming..GOOD FOR U JOE!

  • squomp

    ok, so i guess they wont post my last comment, so go to youtube and type “joe horn 911″.

  • gabrielle

    Even though I find it difficult to feel any sympathy for the robbers I do think that Mr. Horn took the law in his own hands and handled the situation the way he wanted. It is clear 911 instructed him not to go outside, it is clear that he shot 2 men in the back which indicates to me that they were “non threatening”. I believe he was a vigilante cowboy he wanted his own brand of justice and that is the problem with this situation. You just can’t go around taking the law into your own hands because you have mayhem if everyone decides to do that. As twisted as it can be you have to let the law handle things.

    Now back to the robbers………..I do feel that in a way you plan your own demise when you seek to do harm to others. Sure it was just a robbery but what if the occupants of the home would have been home unexpectedly. We could have possibly had a Sean Taylor situation all over again. So this is the moral to this story for me…… You live by the sword , you die by the sword. A grave you dig for someone else might have your epitaph over it.

  • N3w0rl3@ns

    do bad things, and bad things will happen to you!! isn’t it called KARMA????

  • messageboi

    WordzOfaProphet @ How u gonna use the example of some crep raping his step daughter to show that the law is unfair>>that creep ddeserve the death pentality..What your dumb uneducated ass meant to say was. This situation( I hate to use the race card) is RACIST!!! Its TEXAS, the men were ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and he is an OLE REDNECK…

  • K-ten

    this just happened right outside of town (Pasadena isnt far from Houston).

    the man wasnt in any danger, and the dispatcher told him to not go outside and dont shoot. the idiot said “i cant stand a chance of me getting killed” (that wasnt listed above) but he wasnt in any danger. the robbers didnt even know the man was watching them, and he didnt even know the neighbors that were getting robbed. he disobeyed and he didnt have to kill. the robbers were obviuosly wrong, stealing isnt right, but why call 911 if you arent gonna listen to what they are saying?

  • Good Riddance!

    The burglars reaped their harvest.

  • Nat Turna

    This is still the United States people!!!!

    Although the robbers were dead wrong(pun intended), burglary is not a crime that is punishable by death. and even if it was Joe Horn does not get to make that decision. I just watched Mr. Horn on GMA this morning and they played the tape for him again. the 911 operator told him 13 times DO NOT GO OUTSIDE! The robbers were not armed they only had a tire iron which they used to break the neighbors window. every shotgun pellet that was remove from the robbers was in their back!

    if you listen to the tape closely you hear Mr. Horn tell the 911 operator “I’m gonna kill em’” then he repeatedly told the 911 operator “Im gonna shoot”. It was pre-meditated. He made up his mind he was gonna kill those two men. He had already done the neighborly thing by calling 911. all he had to do is wait for the cops. oh and dont forget this happened 2:00 in the afternoon, BROAD DAYLIGHT.

  • Redd Peaches

    First, of all I dont agree with what those guys were doing but the situation could and should have been handled differently when Mr. Horn seen them going through the window he did right by calling 911 reporting the break in but he should not have taking the law into his own hands and then he wants to say that he was threatned if he would have never took his ass out that door he never would have been threatned now if it was the other way around and the colombians shot him they would have been convicted of murder but it seems as if since they were commiting a crime they deserve to die no one deserves to die and they had no right breaking into someones house but the fact of the matter is he should have let the law handle that I thought that was what they were for.

  • Nicole

    I live in Texas not to far from Pasadena, I don’t feel that Joe Horn had the right to kill them he was on the phone with police and they instructed him not to go outside. He did his part by calling them but he wanted to kill them that’s why he went outside. They were shot in the back which means they were trying to get away so if they were coming towards him like he claims then he would have shot them in the front. I don’t excuse these men for what they were doing but this man wanted to kill them, he told the dispatcher on the phone over and over again I’m not going to let them get away. If that had been me or one of you guys we would be in jail.

  • Neek

    Black man looks out window, sees two white men breaking into neighbors house, calls 911. 911 operator “the police are on their way sir, don’t go outside” black man, “I’m going outside, I ain’t gonna let them get away with it!” 911 operator “sir don’t go outside, the police are on their way they are less than 3 minutes away sir”, black man, “Nope! I’m gonna do it, I’m gonna kill’em” (heard in back ground “Move and you’re dead!” Gun cocks, 3 shots ring out.) 2 white men gunned down, shot in the back by black man. Do you think in this scenario, the black man would have been praised as being such a good neighbor? Hell no! Grand jury (esp. in Texas) would’ve found his black ass guilty of manslaughter, and he would be awaiting trial, locked up as we speak. People- esp. black people, keep it real, and be honest. They locked a black man up for shooting a pit bull that was attacking his family, come on now.

  • Lizzie

    Three years ago my house was robbed while my husband and I were out celebrating his birthday. Bastards took all of my jewelry, but all I really care about was the gold watch that my grandpa gave my grandma for Christmas in 1925. It was inscribed from him to her with love. I planned to give it to a grandchild. I would shoot the robbers today if I had the chance and never regret it!

  • free

    ok guys. i heard the 911 call and THEN saw pics of the perps (cnn.com/crime) and now i have a totally different attitude. dude was wrong.

    this was not a spur of the moment decision. then the call records the actual shooting. he didn’t waste time asking any questions. it was straight MURDER.

  • http://habitualbeauty.blogspot.com Habitual Beauty

    I am so sick and tired of people calling this man a red neck, this man did what any other angry person would have done. Bottom line is, if I am home and happen to look out the window and see a situation that I can prevent or end I am going to take care of it, those men regardless of race or being an immigrant were wrong, they had no business trying to take someone elses things and for all of you who keep making it into a racial issue just imagine if it were your home… wouldn’t you want your neighbor to look out for you and all that you have worked for??? STOP with the ignorance Joe Horn did what any person would have done I don’t wish death on my worst enemy but these guys were wrong NOT JOE HORN!!!

  • Sharie

    I have been robbed at gunpoint. A gun stuck to my freaking chest and I was asked if I wanted to die… They robbed both me & my best friend. U dont think I had the right to defend my life & my property? If I had a gun I would have shot them in the back & not thought twice about it…. U PEOPLE ON HERE WHO ARE DEFENDING THE THIEVES PROBABLY ARE YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS. TO HELL WITH U….

  • Neek

    Sharie: In your situation where the perps actually assaulted you at gunpoint, then you absolutely have the right to use deadly force, your own LIFE was being threatened. If there was no gun, just a man breaking into your car or home, and then running away from you, then you should report the crime to police, let due process take place. This is why we have police. No one feels that you don’t have the right to protect yourself. I myself have been a victim of burglary, I wasn’t home when it happened, I found out later that there were several homes in my neighborhood that were robbed. The perps were 3 teenaged kids 2 were 17 and one was 19. Should I have blown them the hell away for this? I for one think people should really take life more seriously. People deal out death like a deck of cards. I agree, stealing is wrong. Is it death penalty wrong? I think not.

  • lee

    woooooow. okay now heres my question. isnt self defence suppose to be within the instant? im just saying he told the operater he was going to kill them then went outside and did it. they shouldnt have been robbing anyone but does this mean for not on when ever someone decides to off someone all they need is to do it over the phone with an operator….damn shame. it was premeditated! im so disgusted

  • bobbi

    WELL AS A HOUSTONIAN……….NEXT TIME I SEE MY NEIGHBORS GETTING ROBBED IN THE HOOD….IM SHOOTING TO KILL THEIR ASSES AND USING THE CASTLE DOCTRINE AS MY DEFENSE…………….CHAECK BACK WITH ME WHEN THEY STICK THAT NEEDLE IN MY ASS…………….THERES CERTAIN THINGS U CAN GET AWAY WITH IN PASADENA THAT U CANT IN THIRD WARD!

  • Peanut

    THATS HOW WE DO DOWN IN TEXAS!!! SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER!!! I dont care if you a Redneck honky tonk mf like him or a conutry black mf like me. If you from TEXAS then you know wassup!!!

  • Jacksmithson

    Typical black apologist comments here, not surprising at all.

  • Chocolate

    Well I’m not crying over the deceased in this case because at 38 you probably not gonna change. Still robbing. I don’t agree with what he did. He intended to kill. At the smae time he was witin the law to protect his neighbors property. He could have shot them in the leg. i know this man is a good shoter. He’s a texan that probably been hunting and going to the range his whole life. So he could have made a different choice. God will deal with him. The sad thing is these two robbers died in the mist of sinning, but that is the life they chose. They didnt have time to repent. I agree with BIRD. Texas is not the place to be running up in somebodys house. Blacks and whites in Texas have the same mentality. Run up in my house and yor ass gets blown off!

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