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first, how do i claim my prize?

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Steve Harvery said he grew up in the projects. In all likelihood there were probably no fathers around. Cant live in project housing if you have a man.

Steve has a demographic that he has to cater to. Anytime he tells the truth, he loses his largely single and female audience.

I wonder how many black females Steve Harvey’s that he thinks is marriage material. Not many I am sure.

Please!! Steve is divorced and remarried…what could he possibly tell anyone about relationships?

I really can’t comment on what Steve said on ABC but I can comment on his radio show. I can not even stand to listen to his show more than 5 minutes because he destroys the english language. His grammar is absolutely horrible. Before he tries to tell the young people to do the right thing he should do the right thing by improving his grammar. If he wants to be a role model for the youth I think that it’s important for him to work on his broken english.

Kigali- I will check you

Steve Harvery said he grew up in the projects.
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When did he say that? In any event he said just the other day that he was fortunate to have had a father that was there to raise him and teach him how to be a man.

Okay, so he missed me half way through this, I got so tired of listening to him. Why….

He needs to sit down and shut up. Is he marrying or engaged to anyone? He is just like the rest of the men out there. So what he is a good catch, but just like most brothers he hasn’t put a ring on it. Brothers act like getting married is the end to everything.

@ebonielady,

The only problem with what you are saying is that you assume that there are women out there who know how to treat a man. You dont know that these men dont know how to treat a lady. These men, considering the kinds of chicks we have walking around, have probably never met a lady worthy of his respect.

There are some very piggish chicks out there and dont assume that if you arent being treated right, the problem is with the man. Men dont have a problem with respecting women. Aint too many women out there though. Just the booty shakers and the baby mamas.

Yeah STFU Steve!!! GO CHRIS!!!!!!

Black people should raise the standards for black boys and men…

@Mrs Rance,

He said that during the King of Comedy. Was he lying? Aint too many fathers/husbands in project housing. That should explain the crime and destitution.

Well great. His father raised him and taught him how to be a man but every father lets his sons know that there are some chicks out there who dont deserve a pat on the head. They happen to dominate in our community.

marriage is not for everyone. people need to be real with themselves about that. on the other hand, people who are marriage material need to stop f*cking around with people who they have to lower their standards to be with.

Steve Harvey is correct, it seems as if our parents and their parents generation completely abandon their responsibilities as men and now we have a new generation of men who don’t know how to be men and treat a women,etc. But I do agree that there should be men in place to teach black men how to be men and not selfish, fearful little boys.

All I can say is there are a lot of black males who are starting to act like females and whine SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much and are wanting a woman to take care of them like their mamas…work, come home and cook his food, pick up his damn clothes, wash his clothes, put them mugs up, and some want you to pick them out in the morning. All that is fine…but that foo betta be doin a hell of a job payin bills n doin what I NEED him to do when I NEED him to do it dammit. Why we always gotta be expected to do backflips and jump up and land by doin the splits?

I’m on team Steve Harvey and he is supposed to be starting a mentoring program . I agree that standards need to be raised for our men, but only the men can do that sooo… Brothers…. STEP THAT SH*T UP AND STOP BEING WHINEY P*SSIES BLAMING THE WOMEN ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!

Welling what a man think is a man is why different then what a woman may want in a man..
This message might not apply to this man but it does apply to many men… Your manhood is not just the ability to you as a man happy along but it serve a bigger mission anyone own selfish needs…

Well maybe he should not also judge the black woman because she does have a choose in who she selects just as a man does…

brnhornet

Correct but the norm is bigger in perspective then the few but the few still matter but it like finding a needle in a haystack… So many woman are messed up by the norm before they can even get to the few and it takes it toll…

baby where the hell are you at?

@J

Likewise there are a lot of black females who said that manhood is worthless, fatherhood is worthless and having a husband is worthless and these government checks will compensate for all that. These are the results.

Black females didnt want to play they role, they wanted to get all out of pocket and the fruits of their labor have turned sour. Now hopefully with this generation, though I doubt it, they will know how to be interdependent with men, husbands, to raise children and not be on that whole strong independent type stuff that hasnt done anything except aggrandize her.

TD Jakes built a whole ministry on catering to woman, because he saw an opportunity to grow his congregation in that way. Steve Harvey is piggybacking on that same philosophy of catering to woman and saying the things that they want to hear. Out of curiosity I read his book Act like a lady and think like a man. It was filled with unrealistic situations and innuendoes and steriotyped men in general. When will people realize that the real do gooders of society don’t toot their own horns and quietly go about helping others. Those tooting horns are in it for other reasons (money) Steve, Jesse, Al, TD, Creflo, Tyra, Oprah the list goes on and on.

@ Resurrected

True but it’s unfair to both sides. I’ve got women friends who may have met that guy for them but he doesn’t even get a chance because the women is still caught up in the drama from the past. And as for the guy, he figures that treating women the right way is getting him nowhere so he might as well become a dog because women seem to like that despite what their mouths say.
It’s a never ending cycle and both sides are to blame. Hopefully the trend will change for the better

YEA CHRIS!!!!!!!!! Steve Harvey is fulla CRAP!!!!!!!!

@ jAll I can say is there are a lot of black males who are starting to act like females and whine SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much and are wanting a woman to take care of them like their mamas…work, come home and cook his food, pick up his damn clothes, wash his clothes, put them mugs up, and some want you to pick them out in the morning. All that is fine…but that foo betta be doin a hell of a job payin bills n doin what I NEED him to do when I NEED him to do it dammit. Why we always gotta be expected to do backflips and jump up and land by doin the splits?
——————— Co sign, I know many men like that. they talk all day about what they want in a woman, they want the world and more but they don’t have anything to offer. No job, 6 baby moms, yet they want mother earth who can hold a baby with one hand and cook a 3 course meal with the other

black women are played out and they ussy stank!!!!!

“Black females didnt want to play they role, they wanted to get all out of pocket and the fruits of their labor have turned sour. Now hopefully with this generation, though I doubt it, they will know how to be interdependent with men, husbands, to raise children and not be on that whole strong indepe”

But if the black woman holds all this negativity yet she consistently does better than the black man what does that say for him? What does that say for that sorry n i g g a you roll up under every night, Porky?

I’m with Steve how many!!! black men are successful???

If he is who he says he is he should not have a problem with finding a wife. It does not sound like Steve Harvey is speaking about him when describing, the typical male scenario in the black community.
I think this guy is just looking for attention.

Stop throwing this THRICE married, scamming, fake a-s-s holy roller negro up as some kind of expert on manhood — this bas-turd tried to scam his second wife into using HIS lawyer to represent both him and her in his divorce.

www.
hicktownpress.com/
steve-harveys-ex-wife-says-not-so-fast/

Is THAT what this a-s-s-h-o-l-e failed “to teach the next generattion” — how to be a MONUMENTAL effin lying hypocrite ????

Why are black men offended??? Is is because the truth hurts. MEN PERIOD, especially black men need to get it together. I get so sick of running into black men who don’t have a job, education, career, car, or even their own place to stay. They are so focused on blaming everyone for their down-falls. How do I know, because I hear it everyday, and it’s sickening. Why is it that women HAVE NO PROBLEM with getting an education, and a career??? Are we any different or more capable then men??? I say no. Men need to step up and become the men that God created them to be, and stop making excuses. I know it can be hard sometimes, but I came out of the ghetto, and I was determined to make it. Men can do the same. Some of them are just PLAIN LAZY, AND THEY MAY EVEN LACK THE DESIRE TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IT’S REALLY SAD…..

Sorry, but Steve is absolutely correct

Kigali–

Steve Harvey is a h y p o crite! Sure, he wants to teach our black men how to be a man, hang on to the family foundation, blah, blah, blah. I was with all of that until I found out he CHEATED on his wife!!!!

Yes, he admits it and I a p p l a u d him for that. However–I say, LEAD BY EXAMPLE! Don’t hand out that “holier than thou” attitude once you’ve sampled the other friuts! I can’t stand that “do as I say do” mentality. With that, he might as well be one of them bootleg preachers!

Shame on him!

And to think I used to really like him!

Not LMAO!!!!!

Hello to all,

The bottom line is parents need to start raising their children!

Good parents produce accountable kids. These accountable kids become great black men and women.

Not all men are garbage. I know I ain’t. I was blessed to have both of my parents for the full 22 almost 23 years of my life, and I saw the reality of what a real marriage is. It’s WORK. MOTHERF*CKING WORK! That’s the problem. People don’t want to put in the work for ANYTHING anymore. It’s like if they have one disagreement and sh*t hits the fan then it’s splitsville.

N*ggalicious Stevie has a point, although I can’t take a man seriously who himself has had failed marriages (one thing I can learn from him is what NOT to do to f*ck up my marriage).

brnhornet
1/14/10, 12:02:pm

@ Resurrected

True but it’s unfair to both sides. I’ve got women friends who may have met that guy for them but he doesn’t even get a chance because the women is still caught up in the drama from the past. And as for the guy, he figures that treating women the right way is getting him nowhere so he might as well become a dog because women seem to like that despite what their mouths say.
It’s a never ending cycle and both sides are to blame. Hopefully the trend will change for the better
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Very true a lot of people are caught up in there pain and in this world no one what to give people time to deal with there pain… We are so twisted but then expect for the out come to be flawless… This is my motto I can only be me by being me if I let everything of this world bother me who would I be really but the shall of a broken person… Other people opinions should never definite you and that everything happens for a reason can you stand the distance is the real question?

AND FURTHER MEN, IF MEN WOULD STOP ACTING LIKE THEY ARE GOD’S GIFT TO WOMEN, AND WOULD GET ON THEIR KNEES AND PRAY AND REALIZE WHO THEIR TRUE CREATOR IS, THEN MAYBE THINGS WOULD GET BETTER FOR THEM. BUT NO, THEIR NOT GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM FEEL AS IF THEY ARE BETTER THAN GOD. THEY THINK OF THEMSELVES AS GOD, AND THAT’S WHY SOME MANY OF THEM ARE CURSED, AND CAN’T SEEM TO MAKE IT OUT OF THEIR SITUATION. GOD IS ONLY GOING TO BLESS THOSE THAT HUMBLE THEMSELVES AND SERVE HIM. AND THAT’S REAL TALK!!! WHETHER ANYONE LIKES IT OR NOT, THAT’S JUST THE WAY IT IS…..AND ALSO THEY NEED TO LEARN TO GIVE, INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY RECEIVING FROM WOMEN WHO ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO TAKE CARE OF THEM!!!

Wasn’t Steve Harvey the one who screwed his first wife out of a bunch of money, or am I thinking of someone else?

I have respect for Steve Harvey but i believe he wrong in this situation… Steve Harvey is only saying this stuff about men out here cause he dont want to lose his female audience… I believe those females that was talking to Steve need to lower their standards…Females ask for too much and then get mad when they cant find a good man… Why is the men getting more the blame than females???… I believe females should really take a good look at themselves and try to figure out why they cant find a good man…

@KingDeon-com

Agree 100%, but everybody so damn jaded that we can’t even get together. I’m not giving up on the black family, but with this pimp/ho mentality that we have adopted as black culture is making things extremely hard.

@Rrrrroe Ski Love COSIGN!!!

People need to stop GENERALIZING and STEREOTYPING! All of us have different standards, different aspirations, wants and needs.

Just because you as a black male was rejected by a woman who you may have deemed as a “thug-lover” doesn’t mean every black woman is like that.

Just because the black male you may have dated treated you like crap doesn’t mean every black male will do the same.

People use their bad experiences to JUDGE everyone else when the fact is you’re still BITTER from the last hang up.

@ Black_Orpheus–

Please type it again!

PLEASE!!!!!!!!

How the H E L L can Steve have the AUD A CI TY to tell our young black men how to be steadfast, upstanding brothas in our communities yet–look at his lifestyle! Not even arguing the fact that he was married 3 times but why so many? Because he cheated and his wife (at that time) refuse to a c c ept it! I would’ve been more a p precia tive if he tried to teach them how to tell jokes!

H y p o c r i t e!

@1TruDiva with the PlatinumVocals–Remembering Shaniya!!
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Barack Obama has EARNED the right to criticize sorry black men — Steve Harvey hasn’t, because of the SHABBY way he treated his second wife — the mother of his children.

Before people start patting that HYPOCRITE on the back, read about his second wife’s lawsuit against that SCAMMING hypocrite.

Again — BARACK DOESN’T JUST TALK THE TALK, HE WALKS THE WALK.

You want to quote Barack — fine! But f—k that two-faced lying a-hole Steve Harvey.

Im glad chivalry is dead…Its alot of females out there who only think about themselves…. They expect you to do everything for them but when you ask for the same, they wont do it cause you are a man and i believe thats wrong…

how is what Steve Harvey said a way of giving black men a chance of not having their stuff together? lol..he was not wrong but simply stating facts,that’s all..& yes,women in general after reaching a certain age,if still single feel as if their biological clocks are ticking..Bottom line there’s someone for everyone,many times ppl are looking for love in all the wrong places & pass up good candidates due to having such basically impossible expectations

The main issue with a whole lot of these crying, I can’t find a man females has more to do with then vs. the supposed men that are absent.

A whole lot of them spend their best years, say 20-30, running around hollerin how they all independent and want to screw any and everybody, having hard heads, won’t listen then they hit their 30′s and some well into their 50′s and stay trying to blame not having a man on all these supposed loathsome BM.

But check it, you rarely find a Sister who has her head really on straight and is fine who has all these issues getting and keeping a man!

These ones that don’t and they are good looking, trust, “HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM”! Many of these broads so ran through and contaminated by years of bad semen, they souls even stained. Most could never make a man a decent wife. Problem for most of them is that most men have this part of the game firmly figured out and aint even coming close to marrying a female of absent character…

Too many of them thought they could do and live as a man does, buying into all that BS and now they all paying the price. A women chooses who she sleeps with but a man choose who he will marry….

@Black Orpheus

Steve Harvey physically abused his wife???? I knew about the affairs but physical abuse? Really???

@PHE

You’re speaking the pure, unadulterated truth. Thank you.

Will most entertainers do anything for money?

“I believe those females that was talking to Steve need to lower their standards…Females ask for too much and then get mad when they cant find a good man… Why is the men getting more the blame than females???… I believe females should really take a good look at themselves and try to figure out why they cant find a”

NOONE should ever have to lower their standards to get a good mate – male nor female. Thats the problem in our communities now – too many sistas willing to lower their standards as opposed to holding out for a good man who can hold his own. Thats why we all get accused of chasing thugs and undesirables. The black man doesn’t ask any otherrace of woman to lower their standards to be with him. If anything he will wait until he has something to offer a woman to start chasing other races and thats in large part to him feeling like because a sista has lowered her standards for so long she doesn’t deserve anything but the bottom of the barrel while other races of women deserve so much more. The black man really needs to stop telling sistas to lower their standards to be with them and start practice what he preaches to us being STEP UP YOUR GAME!

@ Mista O …u better let those midaged hoe$ know the the truth

@PHE,

Black females dont have a reason why they shouldnt be doing better than black men right? I mean you lay on your back, get pregnant and the government is handing you the keys to the castle. Meanwhile if a black man wants something he has to sell himself to the military. So tell me when black men get housing, bus passes, scholarships for baby mamas, child care, free health insurance etc. WOmen have been pampered beyond belief and by the looks of if, black females havent done much with it. You guys get free condoms and dont even use them. Jeez!

Hi Tina!

@ Black_Orpheus–

You’ve made the point for me and since I no longer support his show due to his double standards and hypo cracy, I will no longer comment in this thread to boost the numbers.

Have a good one!

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@Tina
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I can only point you to what the second wife said about this fake a–s “holy roller” in the lawsuit.

You can draw your own conclusion: ONE OF THEM is LYING:

www.
bvnewswire.com/2007/12/07/steve-harvey-divorce-drama-is-no-laughing-matter/

This FRAUD has been playing the “holier than thou” card for some time now. Either his second wife is a bald-faced liar, or HE is.

And the same principle goes for BLACK women who didnt have the CORRECT MOTHER figure in their life to teach them how to love a man, how to be supportive, how to handle household business, how not to sleep with every Tom or Bob, etc..

It goes both ways people and if you would start being a parent to child while they are young and quit being a friend or just letting TV and Wii raise them, you could probably find no matter what type of home they come from, single or both parents, they will find what they need in a mate!

how can a daughter now to love one when her MAMA has slept with the entire neighborhood?

How can a man know to love one when the world tells him he is a man and that you should sew your oats?!

@Black Orpheus,

Michelle Obama has earned to right to criticize black females especially those who leave their kids in the house by themselves while they go to the club or to the store to get a pack of New Ports and the house catches on fire.

there is nothin worst then a black bit$%..thats wants to run down her resume of what she got and list of what she needs her man to have… She will be phukin that vibrator till shes old and gray.

“The main issue with a whole lot of these crying, I can’t find a man females has more to do with then vs. the supposed men that are absent.

A whole lot of them spend their best years, say 20-30, running around hollerin how they all independent and want to screw any and everybody, having hard heads, won’t listen then they hit their 30’s and some well into their 50’s and stay trying to blame not having a man on all these supposed loathsome BM.

But check it, you rarely find a Sister who has her head really on straight and is fine who has all these issues getting and keeping a man!

These ones that don’t and they are good looking, trust, “HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM”! Many of these broads so ran through and contaminated by years of bad semen, they souls even stained. Most could never make a man a decent wife. Problem for most of them is that most men have this part of the game firmly figured out and aint even coming close to marrying a female of absent character…

Too many of them thought they could do and live as a man does, buying into all that BS and now”

everything you have said here applies to the black man just as muhc if not more. I suppose this is hwy his marriages tend ot end quicker than anyone elses. He’s so caught up in himself that he doesn’t even know how to treat a woman. Again, I add, that crosses racial lines. All other races ofwomen will tell you the same thing about the black man and thats why – unless he has big money to offer them – he tends to be a “screw” until one of her own men come along! You say most sistas won’t make a decent wife then why is the black man the most often divorced man within the statistic? its the womans fault, right?

You n i g g a s need to accept that the says of the black man not being held accountable because of all he has been though are DEAD! Society is starting to hold you just as accountable as they hold all other groups of men for their actions. Get used to it! Now that Obama is in office noone has anymore pity for you! They see a black man make it to the ultimate job and they see that with courage, education and determmination he can do it and they are tired of your darn whining black men me me me bull! STEP UP YOUR GAME – and then maybe you’ll get the respect you seem to feel you are entitled to now though you consistently show that you don’t deserve it!

@Kigali- I will check you

In the words of Ed Lover… C’mon son!!!

Are you serious with this? Especially the sell yourself to the military thing. People make decisions and CHOOSE their life path. You choose to be bust it open and get preggers You choose to not do well in school. You choose to slob on the government’s d*ck and join the military. Just like you can choose the bullsh*t, you can choose the good sh*t… like going to school, learning computer code, learning a trade, starting a business, etc.

100% agree w/ Jason

@Mocha Dreams’

LOL Professional black women arent whorish? You dont know that. That chick on the ABC special was an attorney but she was at the Georgia Dome shaking her butt looking for an athlete. She probably been through so many men and is so damaged a good professional black man just put her in the back pocket. They know who she is a mile a way.

“Michelle Obama has earned to right to criticize black females especially those who leave their kids in the house by themselves while they go to the club or to the store to get a pack of New Ports and the house catches on fire.”

as society has earned the right to judge the black man – finally – for all of his sitting back expecting everything to be handed to him! NO MORE HANDOUTS! Stand up and be a man and earn the respect you so deeply desire.

and again, Porky, your comments are ridiculous when we look at the level of black menwho abandon their children before their 5th birthday let alone their 18th! Every comment your sloppy fat pig behind posts merely stands to further point out the black mans flaws. Everything wrong within his race can be traced back to him. If a girl grows up not to respect a man its because a man never showed her he was worth that respect!

How wants Steve HArvey and that mess on his face?

“@Mocha Dreams’

LOL Professional black women arent whorish? You dont know that. That chick on the ABC special was an attorney but she was at the Georgia Dome shaking her butt looking for an athlete. She probably been through so many men and is so damaged a good professional black man just put her ‘

As do your brethren as well you dumb white cow! Everytime I turn aorund some trashy white woman issomewhere shaking her behind for a professional athlete. Lets not limit this to a black woman. After all you had ot shake some flab to get that n i g g a that you’re with right? Or is he just using your fat behind?

ITS NOT WHAT STEVE SAID ITS WHO’S SAYING IT–HIM!!!! HOW YOU GONNA GIVE RELATIONSHIP ADVICE WHEN ALL YOU DID WAS F*CK AROUND ON YOUR WIVES AND END UP MARRYING ON OF YOUR JUMPOFFS/MISTRESSES WHILE YOUR WIFE WAS ON MEDS FOR POST PARTUM DEPRESSION. AND YOU USED IT TO SCREW HER OVER IN THE DIVORCE. NOW U AND MARGY ALL UP IN CHURCH ACTING HOLY!!! GTFOH!!!A DOG DOESN’T NEED TO GIVE ADVICE!!!! THAT’S WHY HIS *SS HAS LAW SUITS!!!! CLEAN YOUR OWN HOUSE B4 YOU GIVE ADVICE, PUNK!!!! JENNY JONES!!!

“NOONE should ever have to lower their standards to get a good mate – male nor female. Thats the problem in our communities now – too many sistas willing to lower their standards as opposed to holding out for a good man who can hold his own. Thats why we all get accused of chasing thugs and undesirables. The black man doesn’t ask any otherrace of woman to lower their standards to be with him. If anything he will wait until he has something to offer a woman to start chasing other races and thats in large part to him feeling like because a sista has lowered her standards for so long she doesn’t deserve anything but the bottom of the barrel while other races of women deserve so much more. The black man really needs to stop telling sistas to lower their standards to be with them and start practice what he preaches to us being STEP UP YOUR GAME!”

Females do need to lower their standards if they want to have a good man… All females want is a man who has money and can do everything for them… Its always about both but females think its more about them….

“there is nothin worst then a black bit$%..thats wants to run down her resume of what she got and list of what she needs her man to have… She will be phukin that vibrator till shes old and gray.”

which, in my opinion, trumps ending up with some worthless n i g g a who doesn’t deserve her nor her hard work anyway! Not all women put having live in p e n i s above what she needs in her relationship! Of course the black man would never see this – but it is the case. There are plenty of women out there who will be alone before they sucuumb to a worthless man!

“Females do need to lower their standards if they want to have a good man… All females want is a man who has money and can do everything for them…”

I strongly disagree! No woman should ever have to settle for less or cheat herself out of a good man and a healthy relationship!

Ahhhh….I am so tired of this crap…why can’t women just deal with being alone??? Why does society make it seem like a death sentence not having a man? I am 36…I have an almost 12 year old son and I am GOOD. I feel almost complete…really and I just find it disturbing that so many women put so much energy into finding/having a man…I guess I just learned to live with it…I dunno…I just think this is some nonesense…

@Kigali- I will check you
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I’ve got a beautiful afro-brazilian daughter who’s just gotten engaged, a future son-in-law to meet in Rio, her little Fiat is on the blink, and the Kindegarten where she teaches in Rio needs renovations.

This “black [choose your gender] ain’t sh–t” is something that I’m not going to deal with today. I have a afro-brazilian princess to call.

Bye.

Chris made some great points, he is doing a great thing by starting the GoodMan Society (now we know where to go looking) the only thing he did wrong was give Steve Harvey to much power.

@Black Orpheus

Thanks!! Yeah one of them is lying. It is just impossible to know which one is unless you are a relative or know one of them personally. Who knows. Steve could be frontin and have another image behind the spotlight.

@Diva

Hey!!

Just to bottom line it: most of these broads like the one’s on Nightline who supposedly are so successful and whatever never got the lesson that while yes, you can “do you” and all that other non-sense but at the end of the day a decent man is not, repeat, not going to want to enter into a significant relationship with a women who has “been around”.

See these broads feel like they should be able to live all skantless and then a man should still want to wife them. Sorry, but we simply aren’t wired that way. These are the same chicks that will go on and on about the double standard between what a man does vs. a female.

This is a very appropriate double standard to live by for no other reason than the fact that like it or not you can simply tell a female who’s been ran through. Not only in her eyes but the very essence of her soul. They get these ole hard hearts, no feminin softness about them. Then expect that some man should still want them.

If more of them would have listened to men, instead of they hard headed mommas and aunties who aint have no man either, they wouldn’t be in these types of states of dispair…

This stuff aint complicated at all.

“People need to start evaluating why MAJORITY of the young BLACK females wants to be REALITY STARS and FAMOUS at all costs…. If they had the self respect and dignity of ol’ school females they wouldn’t have a problem getting a man……………….!”

LOL – so black men aren’t in reality shows? You sound as ignorant as the day is long! If the black man would STEP UP HIS GAME then women wouldn’t run around saying noneof them are any good – again ACROSS RACIAL LINES! I feel a need to keep pointing that out because recent events have shown that all races of women have trouble finding a good black man! Let’s stop acting like its just a black woman thing! Even Elin had to go upside her black mans head! White women are jus tassick of no good black men as we are and thats why it seems they’re turning on your more and more once they’re done with you!

@Tina
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Some things should be EASY to verify:

(1) did the SAME lawyer represent both Steve and the 2nd wife in the divorce?

If so, SHE is not very bright, AND Steve is a shady bas-turd. He KNOWs and the lawyer knew that was a conflict of interest.

(2) did he CONTEST the allegations of abuse and adultery, when she filed the suit?

I know damn well that BOTH women and men will LIE, especially when there are millions at stake — but if a woman alleges abuse of herself and the kids, you have to submit some kind of PROOF. Your WORD isn’t just good enough — was there any PROOF?

(3) having a man who has had THREE wives and been divorce TWICE, talk about “family values” is like having Tiger Woods talk about “respecting your wife” — it is ABSURD on the very face of the situation.

I don’t want any damn body else holding this FRAUD up to lecture me on a DAMN THING.

@Whoa! aka Toot-it-up

“People need to stop GENERALIZING and STEREOTYPING! All of us have different standards, different aspirations, wants and needs.

Just because you as a black male was rejected by a woman who you may have deemed as a “thug-lover” doesn’t mean every black woman is like that.

Just because the black male you may have dated treated you like crap doesn’t mean every black male will do the same.

People use their bad experiences to JUDGE everyone else when the fact is you’re still BITTER from the last hang up.”

Say that again! I agree and could not have said it better. Nice to see hear common sense through all the noise.

I have never put any stock in anything that comes out of Steve Harvey’s big ugly lips! He is nothing more than a walking hypocrite to me. I have ZERO respect for this man and I cannot STAND his morning show! UGH!!!!

I do like Chris’ point: “Where was the male role model in your life that still allowed you to be the dog that you were?”

Steve grew up with a father in his home – he was a preachers son for goodness sakes! But we know that most preachers kids turn out to be the WORST offenders! But what was Steve’s excuse seeing how he came from a two parent household? Was his pops a typical preacher who was also a womanizer or was he faithful and loyal to his wife?

Either way Steve constantly makes EXCUSES for men and their cheating because he still makes excuses for why HE cheated on his last two wives! “I was on the road….women came at me from everywhere…..” Whatever. You were a dog, still is a dog and if you truly loved either of your wives the bottom line is YOU WOULDN’T HAVE CHEATED ON THEM!!!!!!!

Steve Harvey is a joke to me.

“the black man has already lowered his standards for the black woman..why u think u hoe$ can be 50 and 60 pounds overweight..we still *****s with u bit@$s..yall should be happy”

Whew – I think you’re mixing us up with the fat white woman such as Kigali. They’re the ones you desperate n i g g a s are chasing. Remember a black womans fat turns the black man off! Its the fat white woman who you all gravitate towards!

Didn’t see the ABC special

But I like what Chris had to say.

I will say this though, Parents have got to be parents. We cannot expect TV to be a baby sitter and raise kids. So yeah Steve had Dolomite and The Mac, but not all men from that generations are pimps and hoodlums.

Unfortunately I think economics play a large part in how people grow up. Economic and community. A lot of boys have no role model and are easily infulenced or peer pressured into the negative life because they have no foundation. It may happen more now but I definitely think it happened in Steve’s era too.

I think Steve talks, Tavis talks a lot of men talk. Like you said Chris take the positive and use it to help guide and mold you. That is a key for life, take what you need and throw away the rest.

Chris you seem like a good man. I really hope you find your queen.

MADE.IN.NY

As always like love your comments very well said…

“If more of them would have listened to men, instead of they hard headed mommas and aunties who aint have no man either, they wouldn’t be in these types of states of dispair…”

And in order to listen to a man there has ot be a man round showing you that he is owrthy of your listening to him. If a girl knows nothing but her childing abandoning daddy and a bunch of full of crap n i g a s, how is she to respect that? Like I said there were obviously no good men around ot teach her ot respect a man! Here we go again with the black man showing a woman he deserves nbo respetc whatsoever yet demanding it from her! SMH!

hey if this has been repeated then im sorry..

But this is coming from a younger black male..I feel that its the responsiblity of our generation to go out a seek the guidance the older black men lack..i was raised by my mother and everything she taught me has been sufficent so if the father doesnt want to be apart of the equation then black mothers step up and show us wat to be like..get over it and be the strong black women u claim to be..i love all of you but its time to stop blaim one another and start taking care of business..sorri if that seems like im attacking but it is wat it is

@ MADE.IN.NY

Agree 100%

“the black man has already lowered his standards for the black woman..why u think u hoe$ can be 50 and 60 pounds overweight..we still *****s with u bit@$s..yall should be happy

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This is the most ignorant comment to date. at least for me, since i just logged on.

Are you kidding me? We work out and take care of ourselves. At the same time I know and have seen more than a slew or overweight women from other cultures and stuff. I love them but I know obese Italian women. All that pasta and stuff add up. Also you don’t know why a woman is overweight. Sometimes it is not just gluttony. Sometimes it is due to thyroid disease, medications you are on (including anti-psychotics), etc. There could be a lot of reason.

I am willing to bet with your ignorant thinking and commentary, you will be alone when you are old, overweight, bald and need someone. You will be the bitter old person in the neighborhood, whose house kids throw cans at, because they like messing with you.

You, need to grow up.

Too many black women trying to bring up warriors and it aint working. You can tell by the gentleman who said black men have to LOWER their standards to be with us – black women. WOW That’s a deep statement. A little hurtful, too. Who gave birth to you – a low life black woman? Is that why you hate yourself?

Real quick, here is some advice from me to the women on here who may be receptive to it (not that you asked):

A tip, when you are in your 20′s, this is the prime time to find, get and keep a man! It should be a priority, trust me in other groups it is placed above a “career” for most women.

Reason being, after your 20′s, no matter what you bring to the table, how much you got, how accomplished you are, or how jazzy you look, very few women up in age are desirable for most men when you stand them up against an 18-24 year old.

See, you can have all whatever you think makes you of worth, but a 39 year old broad with all kind of crap standing up against a tender 18-20 year old chick with nothing, 9 times out of 10 the man (no matter what his socoeconomic level) is going to prefer the younger chick.

Just how it is. But if a woman is smart, she would leverage herself while she’s in those prime years, find a good man THEN, and then MARRY him while she’s still fresh out the box. We simply prefer women like this vs. ole worn out broads. Ladies get um while you younger don’t wait till you all used up and ole…

@Black Orpheus

I definitely agree with one and three. Why would any person, man or woman, hire the same attorney as their spouse, especially when said spouse is in the spotlight and capable of making a shading deal and trying to undermine his ex. I don’t know how old Steve’s children are with Mary, but if they are young, $1,000 a month barely covers daycare, depending on where you leave. If there are older and attend private school, the monthly check still won’t suffice.

Now #2, is still up in the air for me too. If Mary is going to claim domestic violence, she has to show some proof.

And in order to listen to a man there has ot be a man round showing you that he is owrthy of your listening to him. If a girl knows nothing but her childing abandoning daddy and a bunch of full of crap n i g a s, how is she to respect that? Like I said there were obviously no good men around ot teach her ot respect a man! Here we go again with the black man showing a woman he deserve

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Please PREACH! We need a good example first!

@ shoew*****sneedluv2

I agree 100% with this too. Time to join the rest of the free world and start swirlin! and no, I’m not just talking about getting with white guys.

*live*

TEAM Steve…As a people we have to do better. We don’t like for others to point at our faults but its a known fact black woman out number black men. Young black men today OMG I feel sorry for my daughter. Look at the role models young black men are facing today. Lil Wayne? And young black woman I feel for them too. We idolize nonsence, not knowledge. But yet we commend Steven and Bill Cosby for speaking the truth!!!! Marriage is the last thing these young men have on their minds.

Chris guess what Steve didn’t start that rumor about your gender-generation, “Bobo and dem” did, however, we all can find people if we would keep our pants up, skirts down and butts in church while truly living God centered lives. I’m just saying…

@Black Orpheus

Congrats on your daughter’s engagement!!

Bottom line: Steve Harvey (3 marriages, 8 kids) cannot dispense credible advice about relationships. People in Steve Harvey generation faced the same problems in marriages but the difference is the women stayed in the relationship and took whatever treatment they received because they didn’t have great options. Today, women have a lot more opportunities and don’t depend on a man to provide financially. To me, it’s 6 in one hand half a dozen in the other. As a black woman, I don’t like not being married and not having a family. However, I’m not willing to accept anything (cheating, disease, getting stuck with kids because he’s preoccupied with BET lifestyle, etc.)

@KIGALI-First and foremost let me say that that description you depicted of black woman definitely doesn’t describe me. I AM A SUCCESSFUL, SINGLE, HAPPY HOME-OWNER who happens to have NO CHILDREN!!! So what exactly are you saying??? And I am definitely not laying on my back for anyone other than my husband. I don’t feel any man is worthy of sleeping with me!!! So get your facts straight, before you call yourself checking me, because not all women are on welfare, and having babies out of wedlock. And further more, what do you mean women get pampered??? You sound like a fool. I had to fight to get to where I am, and I NEVER asked anyone, especially a man for a damn thing. IF I HAD TO RELY ON A MAN, I WOULDN’T HAVE JACK!!! Maybe you should take notes. You are probably living in your mother’s basement right now!!! LOL….

THANK YOU I’m Just Me: This is the pic of a N*gga that doesn’t give a f*ck!! 93 Days!!

I DON’T WANT A H O E EITHER. IM ALL OVER THE DOUBLE STANDARD.

RIP

TEDDY PENDERGRASS

You choose to slob on the government’s d*ck and join the military

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I sure did do that and get a fat check every month for the rest of my life. How about you?

“MADE.IN.NY

As always like love your comments very well said…” – resurrected
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Thank you. You know we see eye-to-eye. I like your comments too.

stop all that crying…pu***…mr. harvey is doing you favor by letting us know how dating is between black men and black women..so what is the problem!!! read the book..brotha…

Couln not DISAGREE more

Steve Harvey is just Telling the Truth about us men. His Body of work does not discount the good black men that exist, but he points out the problem and how women should handle these situations. He is Helping our Sisters, and thus helping us. My advice to this young man is to stop worrying about what Steve says and to do his thing. He will find his princess. And steve will continue to Help as he has done for these last few years…Thank you Steve for helping my little sisters…

@c-lo goodie

Thank you!

@tg, A, I’m just putting it out there. Like it or not whether the men in your life didn’t tell you this is in fact how most men are wired.

Your response is exactly why many females stay mentally stuck and why you see whole “families” with like 5 generations of single females. “Don’t listen to no man”, yep and the cycle continues.

Very few other cultures have adopted such mentalities towards their men. And those who have….well we can all see the end results of that now can’t we?

Keep fooling yourselves, age has a lot to do with a womans chances of getting married, and why? Because of the exact reasons I stated. Men are hard wired differently. And yes, in a perfect world age shouldn’t matter for women, but even biologically it does. I am telling you how most men believe whether they will voice it or not.

Again, trust, a 35-40 yo broad is very little competition for a 18-24 year old, just how it is. Yall trying to play on a field where the odds are already stacked against you. All this instead of getting a husband and bowing out of the game while you in your prime…but keep fighting and believing the same crap that got most broads in these situations anyways…

@Tina
1/14/10, 13:38:pm

@Black Orpheus
Congrats on your daughter’s engagement!!
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THANKS — now, to deal with a Brazilian
wedding … and the immediate issue of the Fiat, and the renovations, and it’s SUMMER in South America now …..

Again thanks — and have a good day Little Sister.

“THANK YOU! Your level-headed comments are just what I was feeling and thinking” – Butterscotch™
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And thank you, Butter. Great minds think alike!

JB(Riding for Pat Summit the Greek Goddes of Basketball)
1/14/10, 13:42:pm

You choose to slob on the government’s d*ck and join the military

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I sure did do that and get a fat check every month for the rest of my life. How about you?
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Heyyy, baby!!

Am I gonna have to cut a bytch up in here over you, ma?? Just let me know, so I can get my lawyer on speed dial first…

“Bottom line: Steve Harvey (3 marriages, 8 kids) cannot dispense credible advice about relationships”

Let’s stop saying that because Steve has made mistakes in his relationships that he holds no credibility to hand out advice. Sometimes it is one who has been there and faced the consequences of being there who can best school someone else on how to not end up there or to stop ending up there….

… Hence the reason in order to work with/counsel recovering addicts you tend to have to be one yourself! Sometimes experience is the best way to help others detract those behaviors!

Dude needs to STFU..and why isn’t he married again??

@Black Orpheus

I don’t have any children, but I look forward to being a parent one day.

I have never been to Rio but I can imagine what the temperature is like. Scorching.

Have a good day too!!

“The Tongue is the most powerful member on the body.” Great job Chris!!
Steve Harvey gets on my nerves!

@ MrO

Again, trust, a 35-40 yo broad is very little competition for a 18-24 year old, just how it is. Yall trying to play on a field where the odds are already stacked against you. All this instead of getting a husband and bowing out of the game while you in your prime…but keep fighting and believing the same crap that got most broads in these situations anyways…
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thats not everyone mr o

i get chased down everyday because i look VERY young and FIT. one time i couldnt even get matches in 7-11 because the dummy thought i was under 18. i get carded everywhere because i look under 21. yes, there are some men who think im 22-27 when we meet and when i tell them im 35 they are disappointed. this obviously has nothing to do with looks, this has to do with CONTROL and or the fact that the guy knows a youngin aint established any standards for herself and the n i g g a wanna run wild. PUHLEASE.

then there are guys who appreciate waking up to a mature woman who looks 21 and is looking forward to her being 45 looking 25…55 looking 35 and so forth….

some older cats dont want a child…

c-lo goodie
1/14/10, 12:52:pm

@Kigali- I will check you

In the words of Ed Lover… C’mon son!!!

Are you serious with this? Especially the sell yourself to the military thing. People make decisions and CHOOSE their life path. You choose to be bust it open and get preggers You choose to not do well in school. You choose to slob on the government’s d*ck and join the military. Just like you can choose the bullsh*t, you can choose the good sh*t… like going to school, learning
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I hate to break this to you, but I was studying Mechanical Engineering at SDSU while on active duty…My food and place to stay were paid for and as an added bonus, I got paid to go to school!! Maybe you should look into the military, because contrary to what you may believe, it is an excellent place for someone young to be! I’ve traveled to places that I otherwise wouldn’t have visited, I have met more people than I normally would have, and I can promise you that as an employer, I just love hiring ex-military members, because they know what it is like to be somewhere on time, and to work until a job is finished! Unlike some of the whiny azzed puzzies I have often hired at the bequest of some of my HR people…And It’s funny, but the majority of the time, the ex-military personnel I hire then to last longer with us as well…Unlike some who are fresh out of college…:lol:

@Rothschild

Well said. Just a more detailed version of what I was trying to say.

HEY DAY!!!

HOW ARE YOU TODAY??

“And how did Steve Harvey become the final word in relationship advice? Isn’t he divorced? That’s what they call false authority, but hey, sucessful marketing is based on insecurity, so go ahead Mr. Harvey… make your ducats by telling people what they want 2 hear.”

Again,

Let’s stop saying that because Steve has made mistakes in his relationships that he holds no credibility to hand out advice. Sometimes it is one who has been there and faced the consequences of being there who can best school someone else on how to not end up there or to stop ending up there….

… Hence the reason in order to work with/counsel recovering addicts you tend to have to be one yourself! Sometimes experience is the best way to help others detract those behaviors!

@Da when did I say anything about a woman lowering her standards???

Most seem like they have none to lower. Just saying.

Plus with the free manner in which some of you so freely use a racial slur to denote Black men, it’s no wonder so many have issues getting and keeping a man…

@Mista O

You are right. Its funny how women will fight the idea that men put a lot of stock in the youth of a woman but when they would NEVER EVER budged when it comes to a man having to take care of a woman. It is completely biological it is completely evolutionary. Failed ideas like feminism and manginaisam isnt going to change thousands upon thousands of years of how humans have evolved. They just want their cake and eat it too.

I got married a little too young but seriously dont be in your 30s talking about I want to get married, its just makes it a lot harder for you.

” @Da when did I say anything about a woman lowering her standards???

Most seem like they have none to lower. Just saying.

Plus with the free manner in which some of you so freely use a racial slur to denote Black men, it’s no wonder so many have issues getting and keeping a man…”

You’ve said it several times in here.

and if its a black woman thing then why is the black man having so many issues with other races of women too? Is it ever the black mans fault?

I hire tend to last longer with us as well…Unlike some who are fresh out of college…:lol:(Typo)

@ Day

You tell’em baby!! I’m ballin’ tax-free forever!! Free medical and dental. Free education too. Crying about the military but be the first ones talking about where is the military to help Haiti.

@ROSTCHILD

Yes and you just proved the brothers point. If you look younger it isnt the issue but if you looked your age most men, I mean most men, except that he wants to be cared for, isnt interested in dating an older woman. Thats just reality.

Again,

Let’s stop saying that because Steve has made mistakes in his relationships that he holds no credibility to hand out advice. Sometimes it is one who has been there and faced the consequences of being there who can best school someone else on how to not end up there or to stop ending up there….

… Hence the reason in order to work with/counsel recovering addicts you tend to have to be one yourself! Sometimes experience is the best way to help others detract those behaviors!
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That’s doesn’t change the fact that going 2 THRICE married Steve Harvey 4 relationship advice is STILL appealing 2 false authority. That’s like asking Sarah Palin about foreign policy. Given that explanation, Tiger Woods might as well start schooling folk on relationships 2.

Steve Harvey is a big mouth Know it all! Oprah endorsed his lame book so now the world must listen! Steve has no place to give anyone advice he has a million kids and has been married more then once! So I’m not even thinking about hearing what he has to say! NEXT!

Lets be clear here. When a woman talks about standards, she is talking about money. WOmen dont care about the mans values or morality or character. As long as he has money, she will take him. This should explain why athletes, dope boys, rappers, etc. appeal to females even though they have a reputation.

@JB
@DayWalker,

I was the one who brought up the millitary. I was saying how a black female doesnt have to work to get what men in the military have to work for. All females have to go is get pregnant and everything she has is paid for but a man has to work to get something. Thats the difference. So all this talk about how well black females are doing? Well I hope so since they stay with their hands out getting freebies.

Chris Johnson is SO on point!!!! I agree with this dude TOTALLY!

We need dudes to shut Steve Harvey up because this bama talks some str8 up garbage!

I have listened to what he says on his talk shows and albiet…some of it IS true! But the way Steve talks, he doesn’t give Black men the benefit of the doubt and it’s almost as if he sides with Black womens issues when he’s doing it because he sees you Black women as a MARKET!!!

That’s why the chump is divorced!

so let’s get real. My black brothers? Love yourself because it’s alot of haters out there trying to break us down.

Holla!

Sorry, Team Chris on this one.

I think responsibility should fall on both men AND women. We both need to step it up.

@Da Honest Truth…

YOUR JOKING RIGHT…? Yes there are Black men on REALITY SHOWS but the number of Black females far outweight that of the males… Bottom line, I don’t have a problem with finding a Black, White, Yellow, or Green women…lol Its pretty pathetic of the media (AND BLACK WOMEN THAT BUY INTO THIS BULL) that it’s hard to find a GOOD BLACK MAN…

Most these females want the same DUDE… They want the BAD BOY… They don’t want a nice guy with a decent job… THEY WANT THE BALLA WHO HAS “STACKS…” They don’t want the UGLY guy making a honest living… They want WHAT REALITY T.V. tells them…!lol And that goes for MAJORITY of women caught up in a FALSE REALITY…

AS FAR as TIGER goes… His @$$ shoulda stayed SINGLE… PERIOD… He could’ve banged all the women he wanted (with protection of course). :-}

@ Keepin It 2 Real

Auntie V

HEY!!!

Kigali- I will check you
1/14/10, 14:18:pm
Lets be clear here. When a woman talks about standards, she is talking about money. WOmen dont care about the mans values or morality or character. As long as he has money, she will take him. This should explain why athletes, dope boys, rappers
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I guess I am the exception. I have ALWAYS dated men based on character. My friends looked down on me at times because the guys’ pockets may have been a little slim, but I didn’t care. many may argue that a man will treat you well if he has no money because thats his only card, well I have dated rich guys too who respected me. On the flippy i have dated disrespectful poor and rich guys. All a person has to offer IS their character. I can take care of myself. But I refuse to sit up and talk to myself all my life! lol!

People have to decide what they want in a relationship and find balance. There is nothing wrong with wanting financial stability, but I don’t believe in a woman or a man laying up just because I’m a billionaire. A person should want to be resourceful in other’s lives. I thought that was “human nature”.

Yeah, $$$$$ means alot to alot of women, but they are a miserable bunch. More more miserable than the woman who isn’t a sack chaser.

Material only makes you happy you got it for about 7 days. It aint shyt after that. Trust.

@ Kigali

I was the one who brought up the millitary. I was saying how a black female doesnt have to work to get what men in the military have to work for. All females have to go is get pregnant and everything she has is paid for but a man has to work to get something. Thats the difference. So all this talk about how well black females are doing?
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Ok wait, I know your difference between black women and females. So am I to understand that black women or females in the military don’t have to work hard as the men? Please answer this befroe I respond further because I don’t want to come at you over a misunderstanding

Furthermore… Its easy to point out the bottom of the barrel of any race. Its like when SOMETHING HAPPENS and the NEWS MEDIA finds the CR@CKHEAD to explain what REALLY HAPPEN… Instantly that person os the face of the entire community… PATHETIC… Steve HARVEY is a fraud… BOTTOMLINE…

Co-sign with Aunt Viv.

Steve Harvey need to shut his azz up! Ain’t that nucca been married 3 or 4 times already?????

Why has he all of a sudden become an “expert” or something?????

BULLSHAT!!

oops *before*

I have listened to what he says on his talk shows and albiet…some of it IS true! But the way Steve talks, he doesn’t give Black men the benefit of the doubt and it’s almost as if he sides with Black womens issues when he’s doing it because he sees you Black women as a MARKET!!!
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The funny thing 2 me is that I never discounted EVERYTHING Steve Harvey has said…heck, even a broken clock is right 2X a day. I do question the fallacy of him suddenly becoming considered an expert on healthy relationships.

That’s exactly how sucessful marketing works: find a target audience, appeal to their insecurities, then sell ‘em the snake oil. Of course he’s not going 2 offend the goose that lays the golden eggs. There’s no money in the truth.

HEY MAN!!

HEY JB!!!

JB:

You know good and well I’m not gonna let anybody bad mouth my lil honeybunny!!
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Kigali- I will check you
1/14/10, 14:21:pm

@JB
@DayWalker,

I was the one who brought up the millitary. I was saying how a black female doesnt have to work to get what men in the military have to work for. All females have to go is get pregnant and everything she has is paid for but a man has to work to get something. Thats the difference. So all this talk about how well black females are doing? Well I hope so since they stay with their
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Actually, I can’t consign that, Kigali..I know some females who bust their azzes, and I don’t mean that in a sexual way either!! I know a few Airdales(Aviation Ordinance) females who work waay harder than some of the guys, and more often than not, they get just as philthy dirty as the guys do….At the same time, my brother is a Yeoman, and that n*ggah NEVER gets dirty!! I mean NEVER!! And to make it worse, he leaves when the Commanding officer leaves every day!! If the captain gets off at noon, he gets off at noon…So no, I can’t agree with that, ma…..

Hey Man!!

Long time no see

@ Kigali

also, i have dated rappers, dope boys and athletes and they are about the nastiest bunch ever.

you couldnt pay me to lay up and catch an std or be in a rotation.

some women can digest being one of many and put their lives on the line to be able to lay up, eat, shop and travel. then they have the kids to seal the deal, get married and remain in rotation.

dumbest broads ever.

then there are the ones who are so selfish they could care less what the man does as long as he pays her and she may not even have to sleep wuth him but karma still hits that a s s and that a s s is still miserable at times. misery that money cant resolve.

my ex husband will take me back in a heartbeat because i dont take shyt and i have and will always take care of me and mine.

i can do bad by myself. i never understood that until i became single.

I see more WORKING BLACK FEMALES than MALES, Shyt at least thats what I see when I go to work…

Aunt Viv
1/14/10, 14:29:pm:

Heeey, Aunt Viiv!!

Congratulations on the nuptuals!!!

a 40 year old pu$$y will never beat a 20 year old one..face it ..unless u look like Halle

Man, F*CK Steve Harvey!!!

How you gonna give relationship advice when you’ve been divorced 2 times and married 3???

Get the f*ck outta here with that bullsh*t!!!

He don’t even know how to maintain a stable, loving & healthy relationship his DAMN SELF!!!

I’m Just Me: This is the pic of a N*gga that doesn’t give a f*ck!! 93 Days!!

1/14/10, 14:30:pm

@ Keepin It 2 Real

Auntie V

HEY!!!

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hey there! =]

You Smell Me??
1/14/10, 14:46:pm
I see more WORKING BLACK FEMALES than MALES, Shyt at least thats what I see when I go to work…
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Black men work! That’s all I eff with! Most of the time they have their own businesses and are doing quite well!

I do run into the ones who make $10 an hour and have no place to live and barely a car to drive, but least they are taking their a s s e s to work. The downside of that is they are always trying to live off somebody and the established ones think you oughtta give them some a s s because they have things.

@ Slide

Hey Buddy

I feel you but maybe he is trying to show others the way not to make the same mistakes he did!

@ Aunite V

You got married?

I missed that! Congratulations Momma!

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THESE MEN WHO TRY TO IMPREGNATE A WOMAN TO LOCK HER DOWN AND LIVE OFF HER?????

MEN TRAP WOMEN TOO.

Hi IJM! Yes, I got married over the holidays, that’s why I haven’t been on here much lately!

Hi Daywalker honey-thank you!!!

Hey JB!!!

CAN WE TALK ABOUT THESE MEN WHO TRY TO IMPREGNATE A WOMAN TO LOCK HER DOWN AND

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WHEW! SOME NINJA (LOSER) TRIED TO DO THAT ISH TO ME!! SO GLAD I DIDN’T GET CAUGHT UP. BUT HE TRIED.

@ Auntie

Well Congratulations! I wish you both the best.

co-signs w/Daywalker

IJM, I meant to ask you-what’s happening in 93 days? No need to answer if you’re not comfortable…

@ Down by law

Nope. Steve Harvey told those women what they wanted 2 hear…which is HALF of the truth.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth don’t sell books.

Aunt Viv
1/14/10, 15:00:pm

Hi IJM! Yes, I got married over the holidays, that’s why I haven’t been on here much lately!

Hi Daywalker honey-thank you!!!

Hey JB
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Anytime, ma!! You know I luv ya like a play-cousin!!

MOST Black Men ARE JUST LIKE FANTASIA’S BROTHER FROM HER SHOW!!! WHO DON’T HAVE A JOB, SLEEP ALL DAY & EXPECT HIS MAMMY TO TAKE CARE OF HIM. LMMFAO AAAHHHHHHAAAHAHAHHA!!!!! I’m just playin.. lol wheeeewww… tht was funny!!!

Chris J. sounds and looks like an inteligent young brotha, but totaly pulls his own skirt with this punkish tirade against Steve Harvey. Let me get this right a succesfull black man has the nerve to tell black women to except nothing but the best in black men and this cat is complaining about it. Since when did high expectaions become a bad thing? And for those that dont know check Mr. Harvey’s bio befor you get to talking about what he should be doing, he doesnt just talk the talk he walks the walk unlike most of us on this blog. this cat talking about starting a foundation…Mr. Harvey has foundations (plural)!

@ Slide

THAT HAIR PIECE WAS FRAUDULENT!! WHEW! I am mad at him for that.

HF

1/14/10, 15:05:pm

@ Down by law

Nope. Steve Harvey told those women what they wanted 2 hear…which is HALF of the truth.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth don’t sell books.
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I don’t consider him to be an authority on anything of substance,but in this case i agree with his assessment regarding Men of his generation failing in teaching Men of this generation how to treat women. The numbers of young men who grew up fatherless cite what he was saying. It might have been what those women wanted to hear,but it was also the TRUTH!

@ ROTH

I didn’t say they weren’t out there, Shyt Im one of them, but on the trains in the morning I definitely see 2-3x more black women headed to work than black men…

Actually let me rephrase that. I see more YOUNG BLACK WOMEN (22-30 years of age) headed to work than I do YOUNG black men….

@ Daywalker,

“Anytime, ma!! You know I luv ya like a play-cousin!!
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Yes dear, that’s why you have a place in my cyber-heart

Hey Aunt Viv and IJM!!

Black people will never get ahead until we stop separating of selves from the society that we choose to live in.

What I’m saying is this. The study in it self is flayed because it assumes that all black women of that age group want to be married. It also assumes that they all want to marry a black man. From my experience thats not always true. Also it sets the tone for more racial hate amongst black people in general. Take for instance this website and its “Sellout” and “Swirl” comments.

We live in America. The year is 2010. Not one of us is pure anything. No pure whites or blacks. By the way there are other races besides the two living here.

@ Aunite V

Oops 92 days now. Hubby is coming home.

FQCK STEVE HARVEY’S BUCKED TOOTH EX-LACE FRONT WEARING AZZZZ. HE DOESN’T KNOW A FQCKING THING ABOUT WOMEN. AND HE’S A WOMAN BEATER. HE BEAT THE SHQT OUT OF HIS 1ST WIFE.

SHUT THE FQCK UP YOU FQCKING TROLL!!!

Steve please, STFU!

I feel you but maybe he is trying to show others the way not to make the same mistakes he did!
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@I’m Just Me

Sis, you my buddy and all but I can’t pay attention to somebody whose done soo many people dirty…

I just can’t listen to somebody who has THAT many character flaws…

When somebody shows you who they are BELIEVE them!!!

2 divorces, 3 marriages and NOW he’s a KNOW IT ALL???

@ IJM,

That’s wonderful!!! So glad to hear it!!!

THAT HAIR PIECE WAS FRAUDULENT!! WHEW! I am mad at him for that.
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@I’m Just Me

LMAO!!!

You said it was “fraudulent”… SMH & LOL!!!

HAHA People fail to see the big picture once again! I’m tired of explaining…I’m on team Steve!

@ DaHonestTruth

Well, You dont really hear deadbeat mom do you? I give it to some black women because they do TRY to take care of the family….

Some men just give up…

Cuz we can all name at least 3 men who bailed on their family (my pops being one of them)…

The MAIN reason you see more YOUNG BLACK females going to work more than that of YOUNG BLACK males is due to the OUT OF CONTROL manipulation that’s goin on… EDUCATED BLACK MALES are far more of a threat to the control OF POWER and RESOURCES THAN Black females…

These days majority of Black females are looking out for themselves feeding into whateva the WHITE controlled media says… Look at HOW Bush did it…! He used Colin Powell to make the world comfortable… GOT RID OF HIM… And kept Condi Rice there so he could CONTROL the situation… DUH…

Then you have these BOOT LICK’IN wannabe leaders of the Black community who do nothing but degrade young black males…

MY QUESTION TO STEVE HARVEY IS… WHERE ARE THE MENTORING PROGRAMS FOR THE YOUNG BLACK MALES… All this money he making off of Black females… What is he doing to correct this HORRIBLE WRONG OR BROKEN LINK in OUR community!
I WOULD BET HALF THESE FEMALES COMMENT’IN ON THIS SIGHT know nothing of Capitalism and its effects…..
Dude is a fraud…………. Off top…!

@ Down By Law

Nope. HALF the truth.

Y didn’t he check that lady whose criteria 4 a man was a dude who could dwarf the Sears Tower? SOMEBODY had unrealistic expectations.

The more he talked, the more I heard “Buy my book at amazon (dot) com for $15.99″.

He’s got books 2 sell and offending his target demographic will defeat his own purpose. 24 Fitness is not going to say “Hey… put that Popeye’s down and get your lard-@$$ in the gym and quit making excuses already.”

They say “It’s time 2 live up 2 your New Years resolution… swimsuit season will b here b4 u know it, etc.”

If I wasn’t hearing Steve pitch his “expert advice” he seemed 2 b saying “When any of u ladies r ready 2 try an older man, give Uncle Steve a call.”

When Ruby Dee writes a book giving relationship advice… well, I STILL won’t read it, but I will take her way more seriously.

@ Day

Are you for real? Did he really do that to Bernie?

Wait why is Steve even prancing around talking? Why should we listen to him about anything? Who is he?

LOL @ Daywalker.

Tell ‘em y u mad!

I think responsibility should fall on both men AND women. We both need to step it up.
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@Aunt Viv

Thank You!!! That’s why you’re one of my favorites on here you’re soo smart and such a sweetheart – You’re a good woman that has some sense!!!

People ALWAYS wanna put the blame on just ONE side… That’s nonesense because neither side is perfect…

One of my favorite that I’ve read on here said as follows:

Black Men need to do better and Black Women need to chose better.

@ Slide,

I know none of us is perfect, but Steve just rubs me the wrong way. He was recently on the cover of Essence Magazine a month or two back with the new wife, and I thought that the article really glossed over the fact that he’s hardly a role model for love and relationships. His wife does appear to have a good head on her shoulders, but I just can’t get past Steve’s past errors, which to me, make me give him the side eye when it comes to his advice, which I’ve been seeing and hearing a lot lately, and with almost preacher-like intensity. I still need to be convinced of his sincerity.

@ Slide,

Just read your last comment @ 15:24-thank you dear! I’m blushing

@ Still Waters

Then you have these BOOT LICK’IN wannabe leaders of the Black community who do nothing but degrade young black males…

LOL like Mr Sharpton.

Lets march when white man shoots black man, but lets NOT fight for education, create family, or educational programs….

I can only point you to what the second wife said about this fake a–s “holy roller” in the lawsuit.
You can draw your own conclusion: ONE OF THEM is LYING:

www.
bvnewswire.com/2007/12/07/steve-harvey-divorce-drama-is-no-laughing-matter/

This FRAUD has been playing the “holier than thou” card for some time now. Either his second wife is a bald-faced liar, or HE is.
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@ Black_Orpheus

THANK YOU for posting that!!!

That’s the reason he didn’t get a show with Oprah, they did a background check on him and found out he’s a fraud!!!

How you gonna have YOUR attorney represent BOTH YOU and YOUR ex-wife AT THE SAME TIME during a divorce???

Who do you think is gonna come out on the better end of the divorce settlement, the person who’s paying you or the other side???

He ain’t sh*t…

www.
bvnewswire.com/2007/12/07/steve-harvey-divorce-drama-is-no-laughing-matter/

“When Ruby Dee writes a book giving relationship advice…”

I’ve always loved and admired Ruby Dee and the late Ossie Davis, and I was shocked when I learned a few years ago that they had an open marriage at one point. They were a beautiful couple. . .

STEVE IS RIGHT ALOT OF BLACK MEN MAYBE NOT THIS ONE NOT MINE MAYBE NOT URS BUT ALOT OF BLACK MEN ARE NOT RESPECTFUL TO WOMEN OR EVEN THEMSELVES.

LOOK AT LIL WAYNE DRAKE SNOOP THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST FAMOUS BLACK MEN AND WILL DIS THEMSELVES AND BLACK MEN IN A MINUTE.

DUDE STEVE ISN’T TALKIN BOUT ALL BLACK MEN. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM HE SPEAKS OF BE GLAD ABOUT IT AND JOIN STEVE IN ENCOURAGES THE OTHERS TO MAN UP!

STEVE IS RIGHT ALOT OF BLACK MEN MAYBE NOT THIS ONE NOT MINE MAYBE NOT URS BUT ALOT OF BLACK MEN ARE NOT RESPECTFUL TO WOMEN OR EVEN THEMSELVES.

LOOK AT LIL WAYNE DRAKE SNOOP THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST FAMOUS BLACK MEN AND WILL DIS THEMSELVES AND BLACK MEN IN A MINUTE.

DUDE STEVE ISN’T TALKIN BOUT ALL BLACK MEN. IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM HE SPEAKS OF BE GLAD ABOUT IT AND JOIN STEVE IN ENCOURAGES THE OTHERS TO MAN UP!

CHRIS, GIVE UP AND F_CK STEVE HARVEY HE’S JIS TRYIN 3 MAKE MO MONEY ANYWAY! BROTHER, GET WIT THE BECKYS AND KEEP IT WHITE! SNOW BUNNYS BABY BOY!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!

I just can’t get past Steve’s past errors
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@Aunt Viv

Me too…

I’ll admit he gives good advice at times and SOME of the things he says makes sense, BUT what he’s done in the past is just too much for me to ignore…

And like I just said = When someone shows you who they are BELIEVE them!!!

Oh yeah, there are few of you on here that it’s clear as day that y’all are REALLY good & nice women = You, “I’m Just Me” and “BE” – *right off of the top of my head…

Don’t worry you don’t have to say the same for me because I say some rude & ridiculous stuff on here, it’s all good I understand I know when I’m being a jerk and an a$$hole…

Steve Harvey needs to get back to telling jokes… Instead of conn’in FOLKS…!

@Day

“Simple: Mr. Steve(I like to father kids outta wedlock)harvey is trying to give out “Tyler Perrylike” advice to females on how to get/keep a man….Yeah, right..And while I’m at it, I’m Tom Cruise…”

Thanks, Day. Is the younger brother, Mr. Johnson, refuting Harvey’s advice?

Aunt Viv:

Awwwwwww….

@Daywalker

What’s going on Brotha…

I’ll admit that Steve Harvey gives some good advice from time to time but I don’t like his “know it all” attitude AND coupled with his past… Naw man… I can’t listen to him… I know & understand no one is perfect but this dude right here… SMMFH

I listen to Steve Harvey on a regular I dont always agree with him 100% but for the most part he makes a lot of sense pertaining to relationship matters But there are several different things that make a difference when your tryin to find a lasting relationship and Steve or any one else will never have all the answers, The problem with most people is they take their individual experiences and think that thats all there is to it just because a few men have run into a few bad apples they assume that there is limited classy or upstanding women anywhere. Same for a lot of women, Bottom line life and relationships are about exepriences you will have good ones and bad if we focus on what we have to offer and what we need to be happy the ride may be a little easier. This comment is directed to the rational thinkers only…

Still Waters…
1/14/10, 15:44:pm

Steve Harvey needs to get back to telling jokes… Instead of
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Actually, Steve Harvey “IS” a joke!! just ask Katt Williams!! He “roasted” his azz!!

SYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYDDDDDDDDDDD!!!

@Tina

“Try double clicking inside the Youtube box. Not the play button. It should take you straight to the Youtube website.”

Thanks, girl.

Would Steve Harvey’s words be easier to digest if you removed the man from the message? I’ve heard similar criticism of Bill Cosby (with whom I agree) based on his past transgressions (such as being accused of certain activities with young women). I still view many of his points as valid and worthy of attention.

JBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB!!!!

Hey, girl! Good afternoon, all. What a week. . .

Steve Harvey was telling the truth. When I was in my 20s I was selective and had high standards. Now that I’m in my 40s Mike Tyson ain’t looking so bad. You can teach a brotha how to read…LOL…Hey–don’t judge. Come on sistahs, work with the brothas.

Sydney™ (RIP Teddy Pendergr*****)
1/14/10, 15:39:pm
“When Ruby Dee writes a book giving relationship advice…”

I’ve always loved and admired Ruby Dee and the late Ossie Davis, and I was shocked when I learned a few years ago that they had an open marriage at one point. They were a beautiful couple. . .
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Hi Sydney! U been good?

Yes Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee were married 4 almost 60 years! I heard about the “open” relationship, but hey… I’d wager that they did something right. Death certainly did them part.

What do u think about this Steve Harvey as relationship guru business?

I do not listen to Steve Harvey. He thinks way too highly of himself! I used to listen to his morning show until I heard him dog Jacque Reid for going to the Tom Joyner show.

I also hated how he berated his co-hosts on the air. That got to me.

I remember one day a lady called into his show and gave a cryptic account of some “court case” he was involved in (which I now assume was his divorce proceedings). All the lady would say was how shady Steve was and how “it will all come out”. I don’t know if anyone else remembers this.

Afterwards, he was acting jittery to the point where his co-hosts had to ask him if he was OK.

He is a FRAUD!

@Kigali- I will check you
you know what i agree with you in a way but i am not like those kind of woman i was taught to respect my man i respect him treat him like a king i dont snap off causing drama dont have no kids in college i dress like i got sense and like i want a husband but all i get is men trying to use me they take my kindness and kind heart and treat me horribly it has got me so cautious that i dont trust men at all anymore i know its wrong but what about the woman who respect themselves and they men i guess its my fault because i pick the wrong men not the men’s fault who use me and and take advantage of my kindness or my kind heart huh

@Sydney

Would Steve Harvey’s words be easier to digest if you removed the man from the message? I’ve heard similar criticism of Bill Cosby (with whom I agree) based on his past transgressions (such as being accused of certain activities with young women). I still view many of his points as valid and worthy of attention.
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It may be easier to digest. I think if Obama made the statement SOME would still find something wrong with his constructive criticism.

@ Down By Law—- SPEAK THE TRUTH, SPEAK THE TRUTH, SPEAK THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ DAY- LOL… Steve’s Show WISH it was as informative and enlightening as THE TOM JOYNER morning show… Steve IS SCARED to use his platform to help anyone but himself…

Michael Baisden show is far better too… CLEAR CHANNEL has Steve by the BERRIES that’s why he steers clear of POLITICS and any other meaningful topic THAN AFFECTS THE Black community…. But he has plenty advise to give to women…. Hilarious…lol

I found a copy of the letter Mr. Johnson wrote, and I skimmed it. He makes a number of very valid points. I also took issue with Mr. Harvey’s advice that sisters should entertain older men. There are men who are unsuitable partners in all age ranges (as the saying goes, “there’s no fool like an old fool” — is that the correct phrasing).

I agree that black men cannot be cast together in one category based on a simplistic qualifier as age. The man of my dreams is my peer and is a perfect gentleman.

Hey HF! I haven’t seen you in a while.

@Tina

Do you remember the backlash after Obama’s Father’s Day address?

BRB

“Here, here, my northern sista! Be what you wish to attract.” – Sydney
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OMG, Sydney . . . sista, where were you? It’s been a tornado of BS up in here as per usual. I just came back to check in and all I can do is SMDH.

I once saw Ruby Dee speak at a function a few years ago and met her afterwards – she is a very sweet woman. Didn’t know she was down with open relationships though. Really?

heres how i see it. If you cant find a good black man, go find a good white/asian/latino/indian man! Expand your options ladies. Bottom line, depending where you go you may not find what you are looking for, so you must revamp your options. Opening yourself up to dating outside your race does help.

@ Day

I am disgusted. Out of all the daggone people on that tour Bernie was the funniest. Oh so Steve is one of them shuck and jiving type n*ggas huh? Smile in your face while you are stabbing in the back from every other direction? Vomit! I loved Bernies. And i know he had his faults but at least he was only married to his one wife and had his one daughter with her.

RIP BERNIE!

EFF YOU STEVE

He probably was trying to get into them drawers. Licking them soup-coolers at the ladies behind the scenes, all winky eyed and shyt!

@Sydney

Do you remember the backlash after Obama’s Father’s Day address?
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Of course I do. I can only imagine what some would say. I would assume that some would target him being a biracial man and not really understanding the plight of black men.

@2dimplz & Daywalker

I knew that he and Bernie Mac were at odds, but I never knew the full story.

When I used to listen to his radio show, he would routinely call people who wrote in to his show stupid. I’m saying, these people are paying for his spray on hairline and that disturbing lace-front he wore!

@Sydney

The man of my dreams is my peer and is a perfect gentleman.
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LOL. I know I know. Congrats girl!!!

When I used to listen to his radio show, he would routinely call people who wrote in to his show stupid. I’m saying, these people are paying for his spray on hairline and that disturbing lace-front he wore!
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DEAD!

Did everyone know it was a lace-front on the Steve Harvey Show but me?

I had no clue until years later!

@ I’m Just Me

Did everyone know it was a lace-front on the Steve Harvey Show but me?

I had no clue until years later!
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I knew something was odd with his hair. It just didn’t look natural, but I just recently found out it was a lace-front.

@ Zaaquir- Ahhhh… Black males have always been held responsible for all that is worng in the Black community (music, incaceration rate, unemployment, deadbeat dads, HIV/DOWN LOW ETC…) THE PREASSURE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON US… WHICH IS THE REASON STEVE IS MAKING SO MUCH MONEY… Black women are easily mislead… Just go to any community church on any corner in the Black community. Steve SEEN HOW MUCH MONEY Tyler Perry made and ran with the IDEA… DUH

@ ZAAQUIR…. SPEAK THE TRUTH ……………SPEAK THE TRUTH………..SPEAK THE TRUTH..

Hey Caramel!! Greetings to you.

Hey Caramel

@ Lady M

Okay, at least it wasn’t just me. I guess i never paid much attention. I was too busy looking @ Merlin Santana (R.I.P.)

nhas=has*(TYPO)

Okay, at least it wasn’t just me. I guess i never paid much attention. I was too busy looking @ Merlin Santana (R.I.P.)
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Merlin was good-looking, wasn’t he?

Katt Williams, You need to clown this fool some more, dawg!! Go get im!!

Steve Harvey killz me with this shyt rite here. He has become Mr. Right all of a sudden (He think he represent black manhood)ahhh noooo! I listen to his show from time to time and talks as if he is the expert on man

Day

You got to calm down. You LMAO over here

@ Lady M

Oh yes, he was.

I agree with Steve Harvey a lot of black men carry themselves the way our ancestors carried themselves. There is clearly a generation gap when it comes to the way that women are treated today versus the way our grandfathers and greatgrandfathers treated their women. Today there is no marriages before children. And when the female gets pregnant many black men will not step up to the plate and take care of the family. Soo I say Steve may have struck a nerve, but I do agree with him. And to the female that said Steve Harvey need to do something to try and help change this , he actually has a mentoring program where he helps young boys try to be better men. As we speak he has fundraiser going on to raise money for the organization.

JB(Riding for Pat Summit the Greek Goddes of Basketball)
1/14/10, 16:40:pm

Day

You got to calm down. You LMAO over here
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And a lovely and proud azz it is!!

Steve Harvey is white devil

@Day

Why would you get flack for saying that? It is what needs to be said and it carries more weight, I think, coming from a brutha. I agree with you.

I do understand why he is offended. I hate when people speak in general terms. Race is a physical characteristic that is it. When someone says black people do this or black people do that it really makes me upset. Because the person saying this doesn’t know every black person and they never will.

Numbers don’t lie. They’re just more black women than black men in this country. I am a black woman living in Los Angeles. I have 6 years of college. I am currently working as a Graphic designer. I am very into art, architecture, and music. It is rare that I even see a black man who is not gay or coupled up (usually with a white woman). The more successful I become the less black men I see around me. I would never turn down a man because he was black. However, I am not going to go around searching for one either. It is important to me to marry a man who I have a lot in common with and loves me just as much as I love him. I don’t think anyone should marry for race.

@ Day

Baby Boy you hit the nail on the head!

@MADE.IN.NY

“OMG, Sydney . . . sista, where were you? It’s been a tornado of BS up in here as per usual. I just came back to check in and all I can do is SMDH.”

LMAO, girl, I just skimmed through some of the comments — there were the regular misogynistic/vitriolic posts I’ve seen, mixed in with some actually positive and balanced insights. Can’t say I’m sorry I missed it, lol.

Yes, girl, Google Ruby Dee and Ossie Davis and open marriage, and there’s an interview in which they discussed the arrangement. Yes, I know, I was shocked, too. I would love to meet Ms. Dee in person.

@Tina

“Of course I do. I can only imagine what some would say.”

Yes, some criticized Obama as a biracial man (“not quite black/African American”) for his remarks. If I recall correctly, his Father’s Day remarks led to Rev. Jesse threatening his privates (as you know, Jesse had his own issues with fathering a child out of wedlock several years ago). I also read/heard some people’s comments that they felt Obama was singling out black men for criticism and had not taken other groups to task.

@Kigali

“These men, considering the kinds of chicks we have walking around, have probably never met a lady worthy of his respect”.
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Yawn, here with go with this nonsense. Men are responsible for the manner in which they choose to view and treat women. You, as usual always manage to blame Black women for everything. The reality is males DO have a hard time respecting women because they tend to have a hard time respecting themselves (promiscuity). At some point and time, black males are going to have to take responsibility for their own actions. How you treat people is a reflection of who YOU are as a person. So, just cut the blaming and degrading Black women for everything but then again you have ALWAYS been a donkey so I don’t expect much from you now.

“Agree 100%, but everybody so damn jaded that we can’t even get together. I’m not giving up on the black family, but with this pimp/ho mentality that we have adopted as black culture is making things extremely hard”.
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Yes, it is especially when we decide to blame others for our personal behavior.It is the pimp/ho mentality that has destroyed us. As a result, all Black women are viewed as nothing but sexual objects and all black males are expected to be sexual beings to the point they are incapable of maintaining a healthy, normal relationship.

ll
1/14/10, 16:58:pm

I do understand why he is offended. I hate when people speak in general terms. Race is a physical characteristic that is it. When someone says black people do this or black people do that it really makes me upset. Because the person saying this doesn’t know every black person and they never will.

Numbers don’t lie. They’re just more black women than black men in this country. I am a black woman living in Los Angeles. I have 6 years of college. I am currently working as a Graphic designer. I am very into art, architecture, and music. It is rare that I even see a black man who is not gay or coupled up (usually with a white woman). The more successful I become the less black men I see around me. I would never turn down a man because he was black. However, I am not going to go around searching for one either. It is important to me to marry a man who I have a lot in common with and loves me just
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I’m originally from San Diego, ma!! Wazzup! And to be honest, you’re right!! Whenever I go home, all I ever see is black dudes and white girls together…Now I’m not hating, because it doesn’t make any difference to me, but I wouldn’t pazz up a good woman just because of race…(I have an awesome girlfriend now, but)If I were to meet someone else I wanted to be with, I can’t change my heart, ma…No one can!! So if you meet someone who makes you happy, who da hell cares what other people think??? They don’t have to be with you, ma, but overlooking someone just because of their race is just kind of silly to me…..

Tina
1/14/10, 17:11:pm

LOL!!!

It is almost my time to leave work. If I don’t come back, take care Day, Caramel, Sydney and others in the room.

LOL@Day

“steve didn’t block you from getting anyone, your clearly GAY!”

I just viewed his message, too, and I was very impressed. How on earth did you form that conclusion? Because the brother presents himself well, makes cogent points and is eloquent?

I thought his commentary was very insightful, and he obviously has respect and admiration for black women. He shouldn’t be belittled. I think he wants it to be known that all black men cannot be placed in one box, just as all black women cannot be categorized.

Tina
1/14/10, 17:22:pm

It is almost my time to leave work. If I don’t come back, take care
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Bye, hun!! Have a safe trip home!

Sydney™ (RIP Teddy Pendergr*****)
1/14/10, 17:25:pm

“steve didn’t block you from getting anyone, your clearly GAY!”

I just viewed his message, too, and I was very impressed. How on earth did you form that conclusion? Because the brother presents himself well, makes cogent points and is eloquent?

I thought his commentary was very insightful, and he obviously has respect and admiration for black women. He shouldn’t be belittled. I think he wants it to be known that all black men cannot be placed in
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I think those women need to get with those men and have one big party!!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing what you want, even in your 30s, regardless of the level of success attained. Just because their parents raised them with sense, doesn’t necessarily mean to persecute them on the criteria that must be met for a man. I happily married an educated Black man, with no drama, some swag, and very confident in where he is going. They are out there, believe me. Most of my girlfriends are married too. I’m not buying Steve Harvey’s advice, provided he is an funny entertainer.. . plus he’s not a woman to begin with. He should be addressing males on the carpet regarding relationships. . .

LOL, well, that’s true about HBO, Day.

I’m out, have a good evening, all.

@FYI:

I CAN say that he is currently raising funds for a Black male youth mentoring program to ameliorate the issues in the community he always talks about. Maybe that something Mr. Johnson can look into either contributing to or duplicating.
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Perhaps, or could it be that most don’t want to follow advice from an admitted adulterer, and someone who fathers children out of wedlock whilst still married?? Yeah, he’s a real “stand up guy”….I thinkm the ony reason he’s doing this is to ward off the scent of his own iniquities…In short, he pretends to be this great champion of virtue, when he’s been shady from the start!! Sorry, but I just don’t buy his particular brand of “Snake oil”…..

Sydney™ (RIP Teddy Pendergr*****)
1/14/10, 17:50:pm

LOL, well, that’s true about HBO, Day.

I’m out, have a good evening, all.
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Later, SYD!! Have a safe trip home!!

the problem is that anyone is looking to steve harvey for advice in the first place. everyone knows at least (hopefully) ONE happily married couple. why not find out what they did to be happy and follow that? and I don’t mean those that have been married forever and hate each other or are puttin up with emotional or physical abuse…no, i mean the ones that still truly like and respect each other…

@DayWalker
@JB

I wasnt talking about women in the military however men dont have the option of being a single father and taking advantage of every social free give away like females have. They actually have to sink or swim.

@From Experience

Black men know how to distinguish a nice girl from a bad girl. If you want to talk about his sexual promiscuity which is also highlighted by the father not being around, you have to consider who the heck he is being promiscuous with. 50 years ago, men wanted to have sex. They went to prostitutes. Now men dont even have to. Thanks for the sexual revolution and the break down of all none standards.

Steve Harvey is on marriage number? – four, five? Not much of an authority when you can’t even learn from your own experiences.

Forgive the typos, I was typing too fast.

Chris is very high strung! He looks like he’s going off at any moment! If he is not a trifling, light skinned, long hair, big booty, white woman worshiping fool with a education and a somewhat decent job and is not on drugs, he will find a woman and Steve Harvey was definitely not talking about him!

For every so-called good man there are probably 3 women who can give you the other side of the story about him.

Chris is an angry man! That’s why he doesn’t have a woman!!!!!

@Hey now

“For every so-called good man there are probably 3 women who can give you the other side of the story about him.”

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Do you think the same applies to good black women?

@ Daywalker

Perhaps, or could it be that most don’t want to follow advice from an admitted adulterer, and someone who fathers children out of wedlock whilst still married?? Yeah, he’s a real “stand up guy”….I thinkm the ony reason he’s doing this is to ward off the scent of his own iniquities…In short, he pretends to be this great champion of virtue, when he’s been shady from the start!! Sorry, but I just don’t buy his particular brand of “Snake oil”…..
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Well, I have my own theories (similar to yours) on what his motives are but I like to look at both sides of an argument and I take what good I can from people (i.e.-mentorship). I won’t even BEGIN to touch on his moral character-oh boy…

@Hey now

“For every so-called good man there are probably 3 women who can give you the other side of the story about him.”

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Do you think the same applies to good black women?

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YES…ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT GET BETTER INFO FROM HER LADY FRIENDS

Kigali- I will check you
1/14/10, 18:19:pm

@DayWalker
@JB

I wasnt talking about women in the military however men dont have the option of being a single father and taking advantage of every social free give away like females have. They actually have to sink or swim.
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Actually, I personally know a few single military fathers, and they get food stamps…Seriously…
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@FYI:

Fair enough…It’s not just the message that’s delivered, the majority of the time, it’s the source…LOL!!
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@Dr. Hayden Drake:

Well put, doc….

@ DAY

YAY YOU ARE STILL HERE

I’m Just Me: This is the pic of a N*gga that doesn’t give a f*ck!! 92 Days!!
1/14/10, 19:19:pm

@Hey now

“For every so-called good man there are probably 3 women who can give you the other side of the story about him.”

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Do you think the same applies to good black women?

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YES…ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT GET BETTER INFO FROM HER LADY FRIENDS
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Or her gay hairdresser at the beauty shop!! LOL!!!

Either way, a lot of women aren’t little angels these days, and I know I’m not one either!! I don’t fault a woman for giving in to her desires and as long as she is protecting herself and being responsible, I see nothing wrong with her being sexually active….She’s no more of a hoe than a man is as far as I’m concerned….

And another thing many women need to be more realistic about what to expect you may not be able to get a Boris Kudoe with a good job etc. you might not have it like that what’s wrong with an accountant who may be ok looking but a decent man? Men are more realistic about what to expect in a women and that’s why we don’t suffer from the problems many women do. Just because a certian type of man will take you home from the club and hit does not mean that he is interested in you and some women I know have let brief experiences where a nice looking guy digs them out for a little while they begin to think they should always expect someone of that caliber when it is not realistic.

I’m Just Me: This is the pic of a N*gga that doesn’t give a f*ck!! 92 Days!!
1/14/10, 19:26:pm

@ DAY

YAY YOU ARE STILL HERE

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Yep!! I went home, but I’m here, ma!!

l-boogie
1/14/10, 19:29:pm

And another thing many women need to be more realistic about what to expect you may not be able to get a Boris Kudoe with a good job etc. you might not have it like that what’s wrong with an accountant who may be ok looking but a decent man? Men are more realistic about what to expect in a women and that’s why we don’t suffer from the problems many women do. Just because a certian type of man will take you home from the club and hit does not mean that he is interested in you and some women I know have let brief experiences where a nice looking guy digs them out for a little while they begin to think they should
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Actually, the worst is when women try to rush things…I mean if I’ve only been dating you for 2 weeks, I’m not ready to marry you within a month!! And just because we do it does not mean that I want to date you exclusively, either! If I feel that way about a woman, I’ll tell her….

Look Ladies just because you go a degree and house and a car doesn’t mean you deserve to get married to a DR/Lawyer or some sort of professional.

Men just cause you got a job and are not currently in jail doesn’t mean you deserve to have the finest woman in da club w/no kids who can cook clean and work all at the same time. If you still live with your mama then a chick with some kids and a baby daddy and a food stamp card is all you deserve right now til you step it up.

Women need to stop looking for a professional only with no kids 6’3″ and up with a nice car/own house and a 6 figure income. Ladies sorry he wants either a Halle Berry look-a -like or a white woman or he wants to be single cause he can have his pick. Thats just the way it is. If the bus driver/waiter/construction worker is nice and chivalrous and is there FOR YOU when you get sick or your car breaks down then that’s a good man

We value material things/looks over realness that goes for both sexes! Both sexes are looking for someone to “take care of them” albeit in different ways instead of looking for friendship/companionship/honesty and love.

@HEY NOW

OKAY, I feel what you are saying sister!

hey now
1/14/10, 19:40:pm

Look Ladies just because you go a degree and house and a car doesn’t mean you deserve to get married to a DR/Lawyer or some sort of professional.

Men just cause you got a job and are not currently in jail doesn’t mean you deserve to have the finest woman in da club w/no kids who can cook clean and work all at the same time. If you still live with your mama then a chick with some kids and a baby daddy and a food stamp card is all you deserve right now til you step it up.

Women need to stop looking for a professional only with no kids 6′3″ and up with a nice car/own house and a 6 figure income. Ladies sorry he wants either a Halle Berry look-a -like or a white woman or he wants to be single cause he can have his pick. Thats just the way it is. If the bus driver/waiter/construction worker is nice and chivalrous and is there FOR YOU when you get sick or your car breaks down then that’s a good man

We value material things/looks over realness that goes for both sexes! Both sexes are looking for someone to “take care of them” albeit in different ways instead of looking for
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Sorry, but I have to disagree wth you here..
For starters, If I’m working and putting food on the table, I expect my wife to pitch in and take care of the house if she isn’t working…Now my girlfriend works in public relations at her company, and she makes decent money…I make more, but I could care less either way! And to be honest, We both love each other to death, but at the time, she was working on finishing college, and I was involved with my job as an Engineer..But now that things are settled, we are planning on moving in together, and getting married, but the main thing is she doesn’t need me, to take care of her, and I don’t need her to take care of me either…We’re together because we love each other and are stronger and happier as a result!!! And to put it bluntly, I wouldn’t take Halle Berry over her for all the tea in China!!

Why are people so worried about Black women and what we are doing these days?Why do they only do these studies and specials on Black people? Why are people so worried about what we are doing?Maybe some of these single Black women like being single? Why the hell is America so concerned about us now?

I don’t care. I’m young, in college, and I have no problem getting dates and having boyfriends. Men of all races come after me but I rather be single for now because I rather worry about school instead. The right man will come to me someday when the time is right for me. Right now I’m just having fun. Life should be all keg-stands, beaches, and bad reality tv shows. Enjoy it while it lasts. I think maybe Black people not just Black women are looking in the wrong places for mates.

Let me say this: YOU WILL NOT FIND YOU FUTURE HUSBAND/WIFE AT THE CLUB!!!!

Best Places To Check Out Men/Women Who Are Actually Decent: Art Galleries, Bookstores, Coffee Shops, Wine Openers, Charity Events, Marathons, Family Functions, Religious Functions, Beaches, The Gym, The Park, Your College/University, Anywhere but the CLUBS!

Steve Harvey is right. There is a man shortage and that’s nothing new.I read somewhere that there are more single women on the east coast and more single men on the west coast. Most Blacks in America tend to live in the East Coast. Why don’t some of these single women visit the West Coast? There are tons of nice, handsome, intelligent, and wealthy men over there of all races.

@ I love black men but
You really sound like you’ve been scarred sista and I have to completely disagree with your post. White men contrary to popular belief are much more likely to abandon their children than black men, the difference they remarry and excommunicate themsleves from their children which is worse than never being there at all in my opinion because you can’t miss what you never had. And the fact that more black men are in jail than college is a deeper societal issue, when you disenfranchise a group of people, kill their leaders who were trying to build a positive black community, place gun shop, liquor stores, and drugs within our community what do you expect to happen. We always find the neagative in our community but rarely do we ever take the time to thouroughly examine the reasoning behind the ills we face and find a way to come together and cure these problems as a united group of people. Attitudes like these are why we are dying as a group of people we are the only ones who can’t stick together and don’t show any faith in one another.

@ Kigali

I work in Human Services and let me tell you black men including black single father get the same as black women/females. Hell even my own personal “CH” got some when I kicked his a s s out. This dude got emergency food stamps. I have friends who apply for food stamps and get turned down because they make too much even working part-time.

Good Places If You Are A Single Parent or Divorced With Kids:

-Sign your kids up for sports(soccer, Lacrosse, baseball, field hockey, basketball) There are tons of single parents that go to these games.

-Block parties
-Picnics
-Birthday Parties

Tips
-Men having a dog is a bonus! Trust me if you go to the park with a dog and you see other women with dogs they will talk to you. It shows that you are caring and a great provider.

JB (Riding HArd for Pat Summit the Greek Goddes of Basketball)
1/14/10, 20:39:pm

@ Kigali

I work in Human Services and let me tell you black men including black single father get the same as black women/females. Hell even my own personal “CH” got some when I kicked his a s s out. This dude got emergency food stamps. I have friends who apply for food stamps and get turned
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Heyy, boo!!

@daywalker

I don’t think we are disagreeing at all. When I was talking about a woman who works and still men, some of whom don’t even work at all expect her to cook and clean and take care of the kids on top of working and they still want us to look like Amerie or somebody 24/7.

I’m just saying that having some good attributes like a good job or a degree or being good looking doesn’t automatically mean you deserve the same in your mate or even a mate at all

@ Kiya Extremely well said!

… 50% of WHITE married couples get divorced in this country.

If they weren’t so “saintly” in single race marriages, how do they become so “saintly” in mixed race ones ?

Men and women alike should be happy and LOVE the one who LOVES you . We’re on the same planet and we’re all the same , love is love no matter what color . If you choose to deal with whatever comes with dealing with someone outside your race or even slightly different to a degree , good for you because it’s a testament to what love means to you .

I’ve had a problem with Steve ever since he went on the Oprah show and Shirley and Carla (his co-hosts) wanted to go with him, just to sit in the audience and he told them no, he didn’t want them embarassing him, and he was serious about it. He went and got brand new on them.

hey now
1/14/10, 21:21:pm
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Yup…I have a cousin who got laid off from his gig, and his wife divorced him(Luckily, they didn’t have any kids)…Well fast forward to now, and I was able to get him a job with my company…he’s making a lot more(Roughly 1800 a week), has better benefits, he’s a lot happier, has a wonderful new girlfriend and now all of a sudden she wants him back! I told him that if he went back to her, I’d kick his azz my damn self!!

@ REAL TALK

LMAO! You wrong for that one.

Steve is the last person you should take relationship advice from. He’s a cheater and he abandoned his WIVES… so what about him speaks “good man”? Nothing.

@Daywalker

See that broad was trifling! I’m glad your cousin didn’t hold that against the new woman!

hey now
1/14/10, 21:38:pm

@Daywalker

See that broad was trifling! I’m glad your cousin didn’t hold that
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Well, the major thing wasn’t that he wouldn’t work…The issue was that his ex was just too materialistic!! I mean I let him stay with me till I could get him on where I work…Now he’s got his own place, and he’s doing well…But just like I told him, it’s not right to judge every female you meet based on the actions of another…If they screw up, judge them based on their own individual merits, and don’t have a pre-concieved notion of how all women are, because they all arent like his ex…..

pls my black ppl stop do light-skinned\mixed f’ckin kids…….stop do genocide mathaf’cka!!

When a women has a preference for what kind of man she wants to be with people say oh “be realistic”. However, I don’t see why someone would marry a person who wasn’t what they wanted from the beginning. At the same time some people need to realize that they may need to change or better themselves in order to get the kind of person they want. An example of this would be an overweight woman wanting to marry an athletic man who is rich and 6.5′. No one’s looks should be more important to you than your own. If looks are important than make sure you look as good as the person you are trying to attract. If marrying someone who is wealthy is important. Than you need to be hanging out with wealthy people on a regular bases. How can you marry someone who is rich if you are not even in their circle? I do not believe anyone should settle. However, you may have to change your life to get that person. Instead of waiting around for that person to come alone and change your. Drastic measures may have to be taken. This may include, changing the people you hand out with, changing your career, moving to another city, loosing weight, changing the way you dress, or even plastic surgery. If getting that person isn’t worth changing than maybe that is not what you really want.

@I love black women but…

Actually in most traditional non Western societies, older men marry younger women as standard.

@I love black men but…

Also, this isnt about black females having low standards, it is about them having bad standards. DOnt think the intentions of females are pure. They arent. They were willing to pass up nice men because “They are too nice.” They love drama. Fights, arguments, etc. Also when you purposefully get pregnant by a man you arent married to, you are asking, demanding to be a single mother. Dont put the cart before they horse and ask the horse to carry you.

@DayWalker,

You have got to be kidding?

@ Daywalker

I was just wondering…I have a male cousin who is always complaining calling women gold diggers/snobs/materialistic and such. He is a Teacher. Not bad looking but not tall 5’8 or so and has a lil bit of a gut.

A mutual friend had a birthday party at a local club and we both went. I saw him try for women way out of his league physically. I hate to say that. He struck out a few times. Then this girl with light skin and green eyes and light brown hair and was tall and slim gave him her phone number. They went out a couple of times but she wasn’t really feeling him it was obvious (not returning phone call and the like). But he was ecstatic because she was “SO FINE”. Then one of our other cousins saw her at the mall with a well known drug dealer! My cousin pi.ssed but at the club that night when he met her, he passed up at least 3 women who expressed an interest and he didn’t reciprocate. To me they were all beautiful but had the classic African American features. High cheekbones, broader noses, fuller lips (not fat at all). They prolly would have been happy with him having a degree and a respectable profession but my cousin insists on dating out of his league then blaming all black women for the actions of a few. Some people need to look in the mirror and their wallet and date on their level. It would be a lot less dramatic.

and oh yeah he had to buy quite a few drinks to even get the number…so dumb!

Steve told the truth. Finding a honest educated man is rare. Mr. Johnson if u r who u say u r most some women will turn u down cus ur ugly. Im a 9 out of 10 in looks and educated but when I was dating I was so limited in men; the same goes for my sister. This is truly a problem. Black men need to step up.

Kigali- I will check you
1/14/10, 23:21:pm

@DayWalker,

You have got to be kidding?
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I wish I was, Kigali…I really really wish I was!! The worst part was that she said it with a straight face…That’s what threw me the most!!
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hey now
1/14/10, 23:21:pm

@ Daywalker

I was just wondering…I have a male cousin who is always complaining calling women gold diggers/s*****s/materialistic and such. He is a Teacher. Not bad looking but not tall 5′8 or so and has a lil bit of a gut.

A mutual friend had a birthday party at a local club and we both went. I saw him try for women way out of his league physically. I hate to say that. He struck out a few times. Then this girl with light skin and green eyes and light brown hair and was tall and slim gave him her phone number. They went out a couple of times but she wasn’t really feeling him it was obvious (not returning phone call and the like). But he was ecstatic because she was “SO FINE”. Then one of our other cousins saw her at the mall with a well known drug dealer! My cousin pi.ssed but at the club that night when he met her, he p*****ed up at least 3 women who expressed an interest and he didn’t reciprocate. To me they were all beautiful but had the cl*****ic African American features. High cheekbones, broader noses, fuller lips (not fat at all). They prolly would have been happy with him having a degree and a respectable profession but my cousin insists on dating out of his league then blaming all black women for the actions of a few. Some people need to look in the mirror and their
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Well, if he knows he has a gut, he should do something about it! I mean I leave myself no excuses not to get what I want, ma…You can’t blame someone else for your shortcomings when you’re aware of them yourself, and if his physical appearance is hindering him from being with someone, he needs to work on that or he’ll be miserable….
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@Kigali & Hey now:

Sorry guys, I had step away for a sec to go feed the pooch…

I appreciate what Chris is trying to say- ultimately the proof is in the pudding though.

If you meet a man, any race, any age, and he has the symptoms of a ‘dog’, ‘pimp’, or just someone you don’t want, don’t get caught up in his blackness or youngness or fine-ness or richness and Hit the road. If he seems like a good man, give him a shot.

As a black single woman I understand the crisis, trust me. But I’m more likely to attribute it to the assassination of the IMAGE of black women than I am to anything else. Black men don’t seem to have as much of a problem problem marrying Non- black women so it can’t ALL be marriage-phobia.

The numbers show black women are less likely to marry outside of their race than ANY other major group in the US. It’s obviously partially because we’re socialized to prefer black men- not wanting to be called “race traitors” or because of myths surrounding black masculinity and the lack of masculinity in other ethnicities. But it’s also, I think, because of the way black beauty and black womanhood are portrayed in the media (black AND white)… The way they’re FALSELY portrayed.

There are strong black women. There are softspoken black women. There are black women who are doormats. There are black women who hold together multiple generations Single-handedly. There are professional black women. There are black women on welfare. There are blue-collar black women. There are black women who will take a bullet for their man. There are black women who will put a bullet in their man.

Refuse to be stereotyped. Refuse to tolerate stereotypes. Then maybe we’ll see some statistical changes.

Angel face
1/15/10, 00:01:am

Steve told the truth. Finding a honest educated man is rare. Mr. Johnson if u r who u say u r most some women will turn u down cus ur ugly. Im a 9 out of 10 in looks and educated but when I was dating I was so limited in men; the same goes
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No, you need to quit being so “SUPERFICIAL”…If you’re a 9, then why do you have no picture of yourself up, so that we can see if you are?? I personally don’t care either way, but I think that you aren’t all that attractive as far as your ways are concerned…And I can see why men don’t get at you…You my dear lady are unapproachable, shallow and needy…No man in his right mind would want you for more than sex…And you’re probably not that good at it, either…..

@Daywalker u miss understood me. I said some women want date him cus of the way he looks not me; Im not shallow. I dont have a problem getting men’s attention; my looks keep me the center of attention. I have a body and face similar to Lisa Raye’s. Im a private person so I see no need to put a pic up; I dont do myspace and all that. I said when I was dating it was hard to find a honest, educated BM; my sis and I were so limited.

Angel face
1/15/10, 01:00:am

@Daywalker u miss understood me. I said some women want date him cus of the way he looks not me; Im not shallow. I dont have a problem getting men’s attention; my looks keep me the center of attention. I have a body and face similar to Lisa Raye’s. Im a private person so I see no need to put a pic up; I dont do my*****e and all that. I said when I was dating it was hard
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If that is the case, fair enough, however, what I derived from your post was that you found him ugly…May I quote you??? :

“Steve told the truth. Finding a honest educated man is rare. Mr. Johnson if u r who u say u r most some women will turn u down cus ur ugly.”

Your words, not mine…And for the record, you sound pretty shallow to me..You compare yourself to Lisa Raye, You compare your figure to hers, and you state: “I dont have a problem getting men’s attention; my looks keep me the center of attention. I have a body and face similar to Lisa Raye’s.”

You sound very shallow based on those statements alone…You said nothing about being a good woman, you said nothing about being a caring and compazzionate woman, and you made no mention of how you would be a companion to someone..All I heard was how much you resemble Lisa Raye…Well please allow me to tell you, you certainly do emulate her, because she has some very ugly ways as well…I am 5’11, I currently weigh 205 lbs, I am emploed as an Engineer, and I am articulate, intelligent, and caring…I have a great sense of humor, and I can make almost any one laugh, but I don’t bash people for no reason! If I felt someone wasn’t my cup of tea, I’d tell them, but I wouldn’t hurt their feelings while doing so…I have a sneaking suspicion you would not only hurt someone who had a genuine interest in you, but you would delight in it….

emploed=employed*(TYPO)

I said nothing about my characteristics bcus u insulted my looks so I described my looks. Im not perfect buy most people describe me as reserved and sweet. In my opinion he is unattractive; I could have chose a better word. My exhusband looks like Guccimane so I dont judge based on looks 0%. Ur an over analyst but I can respect that cus seem like u think outside the box and I admire that.

@ Daywalker

Good night!

brnhornet,

I wouldn’t be surprise if Sidney, Denzel or Will have a chick on the side. If so they probably would invest in one who knows how to play her position.

As far as relationships go it is harder for a Black woman to date because most men are not on their level. Whether it’s economically, spiritually, or mentally. When they do find one they either dont appreciate him and unintentionally push him away. Or he’s already spoken for.

I do agree with Steve on the point that the prior generaton did not take full responsibility for raising boys into men.

I agree and disagree with what Steve said. There are alot of men out there that didn’t have that positive male role model. Alot of them grew up with the huslers, bangers and trapboys and they learned from them… I mean how many bangers do you know that respect women or even have a WOMAN not a girl that’s just as immature as they are but a WOMAN. Not very many. But there are some GREAT men out there it’s just a matter of your paths crossing and taking a chance on love. I found the greatest man a year ago he does some craziness sometimes but I couldn’t ask for a better man. But it took me going through a pile of the worst men created first. I agree with Chris too people are TOO influenced by the stars. I think Steve just wants to influence the young black women to go towards older black men because he needs some young meat! LOL!!!!

I think they both made good points… A foundation is kool to start. Besides, look what our old foundation has done anyway, it may be time for a new one…….Peace!

Im 23 year old male with a degree in economics. I have a job and my own place. I have both my parents and they are still happily married.

THE PROBLEM IS THIS:

In some cases, when a good blk woman gets with a good blk man, the woman may stop some of the things she was doing before (sex, cooking, etc). Woman can get caught up in this “Independent Woman” mess and forget all about their good blk man. When this happens, the good blk man realizes that there are many other woman that want him, so he cheats or leaves.

MY POINT IS: you never see men screaming independent man. If you want to be an independent woman, then you will be just that, BY YOURSELF.

P.S. If you have a good blk man DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO KEEP HIM!

@ KIGALI AND EVERYONE WHO ANSWERS HE/SHE/IT

EVERYONE KIGALI IS A TROLL THAT PARTICULARLY COMMENTS ON BLACK RELATIONS AND ATTACKS BLACK WOMEN, BECAUSE KIGALI KNOWS BLOGS ARE GENERALLY VISITED BY WOMEN, SO THEY WILL GIVE KIGALI’S IGNORANCE A RESPONSE.

NOT ONE GENDER IS TO BLAME FOR THE STATE THAT BLACK RELATIONSHIPS ARE IN. JUST LIKE WHEN A RELATIONSHIP GOES BAD, USUALLY BOTH PARTIES ARE AT FAULT FOR SOMETHING, EVEN IF ONE PERSON LAID THE FINAL STRAW.

(SOME) BLACK WOMEN SHOULDN’T BE SO NEGATIVE AND HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR MATES. (SOME) BLACK WOMEN SHOULDN’T YEARN TO BE A BABY’S MAMA. (SOME) BLACK WOMEN NEED TO LEARN HOW TO RESPECT THEMSELVES.

(SOME) BLACK MEN NEED NOT TO BE SO FREAKISHLY AFRAID OF COMMITMENT AND NEED NOT LOOK TO ATHLETES AND RAPPERS FOR HOW TO BE A MAN. PIMPING OUT/USING A WOMAN IS NOT CUTE.

THATS MY TWO CENTS. I’M DONE

@KAT

I like everything you stated, but do you think average black men (not celebs) are marrying outside of their race, or is it just something the media is sensationalizing (and portraying it as an epidemic) due to all the celebs who may be marrying interracially?

Besides that, did you ever notice that the good men keeping their relationships right never talk about it? They just get on with it. It is their actions that usually catches our attention, not their boastful pseudo Dr. Phil nonsense.

@DreDay

Men dont scream independent man because historically men were the providers and head of the household. How could you be independent? That doesn’t make sense. Even when unmarried, men are groomed to work and take care of himself and the woman he is with.

A woman’s role in the family has always been to nurture, take care of the kids and household. If she worked, she still relied on the husbands income to contribute to the household overall.

The problem is men AND women need to take care of EACH other. If people appreciated the male and female roles and came together neither diminishing the importance of the other, things wouldn’t be in such ruins like it is now.

Good women get tired of having to do it all themselves. However,if she waits around on some of these men who don’t have it together, it will never get done. Don’t blame the woman for being independent, encourage her to rely on you and show her you got her back. Women of this generation are not June Cleavers content on being housewives so dont expect that however not all women want to be independent and without a good man.

In many cases the pickings are slim and that woman has had to do her for so long she dont know how to let a man do it for her. Its a reconditioning process.

@Ready Set Go

I agree with most of what you said. I know quite a few men and women who taught themselves how to be successful because they sought it out despite their upbringing. They didnt let it hinder them. Sometimes nature versus nurture is stronger though and thats probably why they were successful. They had something inside of them already that drove them to seek out ways to better themselves. Some have it, some don’t

@Late
How are men getting more blame than females? True there are many trifling females out here however who do you think didnt mentor the same generation of men that women are complaining about? That is a man’s responsibility to teach his son. A woman can only teach a man so much and there are somethings women can not teach a man on how to be a good man.

I HOPE A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS ON HERE ARE NOT FROM BLACK MALES WHO HAVE DAUGHTERS CAUSE IF YOU THINK IT’S OK THAT’S SHE’S GOING TO GROW AND GET MISTREATED BY THE NEXT FATHERLESS BLACK YOUNG MAN COMING UP IN THIS SOCIETY I FEEL SORRY FOR HER CAUSE THAT’S ALL HER FATHER THINKS SHE WORTH.

IF THE SHOE FITS………CHRIS THE SHOE DOESNT FIT DONT FORCE IT……HE IS TALKING ABOUT MEN THAT ARENT DOING SHYT NOT ONES WHO ARE AND WHAT HE SAID IS TRUE..SORRY CHRIS GET A GRIP HE IS NOT TALKING SUCH AS YOU.

As a black woman I have to admit we are just as much of the blame as black men. All woman are to blame because we lower our standards to have a man. When I say standards I don’t mean material I mean moral. When cheat with married men, or men with that we know are in a relationship. We have babies for these men without any committment and get pissed of when he goes on about his business.
When we have woman who have moral standard set the rules these men go to the easy woman so they don’t have to be responsible. I know several woman who run after the thugs, pretty boys, and popular guys, but don’t give good men the time of day. Then they want to cry foul when these men treat them like last weeks trash. A man is only going to treat you the way you allow him too. As far as Steve Harvey he’s full of shit.

steve harvey iz tha truth and all the haters need to fall back because you’re talkin about him & wishin him harm only makes him more blessed. god is usin that brutha.

Whether a man has a father or role model or whatever becomes irrelevant.We all grow up and know right and wrong;we all know how we should treat another human being.And WE make our choices.President Obama’s father abandoned him at an early age and what a man he is!
Ultimately it’s not about what we have but who we are.Integrity and decency have no gender.

Steve is absolutely right this generation of men were mostly raised by women they don’t know how to be men. This guy makes no sense. I am a black women and can’t stand when black men try and ride on my back. I personally feel like I will be alone for life because I’m in a class by myself and no man will ever match up to me as far as character, ambition, respect etc… I have lost a lot of respect for black men and it’s not because of media it’s because the majority of them are garbage.

This is why black women need to move on and marry out; waiting on blackmen, she will NEVER MARRY MUCH LESS HAVE CHILDREN. Im married and loving it, I know if I had waited on a blackman, it most likely would not have happend. Steve Harvey is an IDIOT! Mr. Johnson is right. As long as men; black men in particular maintain that shitty attitude and that we dont have a biological clock, they will stay as they are…losers…Black women if you want a family and marriage; Date out!