For Discussion: Racial Barriers in Hollyweird…Have They Been Broken??

Posted on February 5th, 2010 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Denzel Washington, For Discussion, News, Tyler Perry, Will Smith

This was an interesting read:

Has Hollywood become more tolerant, more accepting, more open-minded? Or is it simply that its obsession with green makes it color-blind when it comes to backing a project? And do Washington, Smith and Perry represent a breakthrough, or are they isolated cases who have defied the odds? As Black History Month unfolds, the film industry sees the aforementioned titans standing tall on top of a pile of dough. Washington’s recent “The Book of Eli” grossed more than $32 million in its opening weekend ending Jan. 17 and has since amassed more than $63 million. Smith is the only actor in history to have eight consecutive films released that grossed more than $100 million each. Perry, a writer-producer-director and playwright, has raked in more than $400 million with his works and is a one-man cottage industry.

“I think they’d be the first to tell you that African-American actors have made strides in terms of movies and Hollywood,” said Glenn Whipp, a film critic for the Los Angeles Times, Variety, MSN and others. “I think it’s much like when Obama was elected president, people don’t pay attention to color and are able to see past it.” “It’s important to look at the kinds of roles they’re playing and the fact that — with the exception of Tyler Perry — they’re playing roles that don’t require any sort of racial consciousness,” she said. “They don’t bring a racial consciousness to bear on the story in a way that disturbs the audience.

“On the one hand it is surprising that now we can all sort of identify with the black leading character whereas before the assumption was that it was only the white character that audiences could identify with. That transformation is an important one. But at the same time the kinds of films that cause us to reflect and look more deeply at race relations, we’ve seen less of those.”

Washington and Smith have carved out extraordinary careers by playing roles that usually aren’t race specific, that could conceivably have been played by stars such as Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Bruce Willis, Johnny Depp or any number of others.

Where does the path begin for success in Hollywood by black actors, writers, directors, producers?

In general, the first steps are taken overseas. Because it is imperative to studio executives and their bottom lines that a film or television show perform well internationally, that often limits the number of opportunities for blacks, primarily because of an old belief that black-themed projects don’t do well outside of the U.S.

Leah Aldridge, a Ph.D. student at USC’s film school who is studying the relationship between international distribution and domestic production in Hollywood, said it all starts outside the borders. “Because of Hollywood’s very intimate relationship with international distributors,” she said, “if the belief exists that black films don’t do well in foreign, then there is no incentive to increase black faces in television and film.”

Aldridge said Perry doesn’t do well internationally, but that his case is unique because he has such an ardent following in the U.S. Washington and Smith, she said, have circumvented the process because “their brand of blackness does very well in the international markets.”

“Hollywood frequently attributes the box-office ‘failure’ of a black film to its black cast and black narrative, hence ‘Black doesn’t do well in foreign,’ therefore we must limit the number of black projects and label them as ‘high risk’ ventures,” Aldridge said.

“But when films like ‘New in Town’ (with Renee Zellweger and Harry Connick Jr.) or ‘Surrogates’ (starring Bruce Willis) are whopping box-office failures, no one in Hollywood attributes it to its white cast. This is indicative of one of the ways racism operates in Hollywood.”

It’s very obvious that racial barriers still exist in Hollyweird, but that’s just our thoughts.

Discuss…

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  • I Am Legend

    ummmmmmmmmmmm

  • foxxy cleopatra foster

    I can’t say for sure. I know one thing though, it’s a lot easier for men in Hollywood than women. There’s only room for one top black actress at a time.

  • Hmmm

    Compared to the early 90s I guess Hollywood is taking more notice/giving more chances to black actors. However there’s still a long way to go. There needs to be more diversity in terms of who the big roles are given to. As much as I love Will, Denzel, Sam L J, Morgan Freeman and Forest, there are more black actors out there who need to be given a chance!

  • Fizzoni

    Everything is pretty much political, and Money speak louder than race

  • Professor X

    They shouldnt mention Zoe Saldana in this article. She is killing the game as far as actresses go. Blockbuster after blockbuster with more on the way.

  • http://nautysgirl@yahoo.com bklynlady

    YUMMY!

    DAMN! DENZEL OR WILL COULD GET IT!

    WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THEIR WIVES. LOL

  • http://nautysgirl@yahoo.com bklynlady

    HOLLYWOOD HAS AND WILL NEVER CHANGE. THEY ARE

    JUST PACIFYING BLACK PEOPLE AND WE ARE FALLING

    FOR IT.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    Hollywood also hypes up & gives the good opportunities to certain actors/acresses

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    Interesting MSNBC.com article — The below quote, among many, jumped out to me:

    “Let’s look at the primetime commercial networks,” she said. “Can you name a sitcom that has a predominately African-American cast on the major networks? There were more black sitcoms in the ‘70s and ‘80s than now. You can also say the same for cable and premium channels.”

    I agree. In a way, I think we are reverting in terms of our images in popular culture. “The Cosby Show” was truly ground-breaking, but what do we have as a replacement?

    And I disagree with this quote from independent filmmaker Mark Harris:

    “There are great stories coming out of Japan, other Asian countries, Europe, from white directors in America. Many of them are telling really compelling stories. We have a few (quality black filmmakers), but we don’t have many.”

    There are a number of black filmmakers who have produced quality independent works, such as Kasi Lemmons and Julie Dash, but the market for their work is limited, and, honestly, many of us don’t support black films that push the boundaries and offer more than base, slapstick comedy and formulaic plots.

  • http://perryone779@yahoo,com a rose by any other name #9304026339482056536 ™

    Its all racism no matter how you look at it, they can say black dont do well in foreign Countries..you mean to tell me only 2 blacks actors do well but a million white ones do!!

  • samech

    The actors right now, to me, where in the right place(s) at the right time. It’s been the same actors rotating roles. Like, come on, where are the new and fresh cats. You mean to tell me no one in NYU (black) is studing acting and is on broadway or so forth. Also, I’m not down with singers wanting to be actors also. I can see if you studyied acting in college (like myself) but, come on.

  • 2dimplzs

    This article gets a big “NO DUH SHERLOCK” from me.

  • auchamp22

    what does their brand of blackness mean?

    deuces

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  • michelle

    i agree broadly with hhhmmm and sydney. but you also have to consider the fact that most “white film” do not touch on racial issues either, whereas not all but a lot of mainsteams black films have racial inferences that sometimes may leave white folks to feel uncomfortable or left out. but i think the quality of black writing needs to get better or the black indie screenwriters needs more exposure. though im fro the u.k it seems to me that a lot of black people in america don’t like serious dramas that black people are in. i mean who saw american violet? which was wonderful by the way.but i think hollywod is more sexist than racist.

  • http://Bossip KINGLION

    No, Not in America!

    Denzell won his first Grammy for paying a corrupt cop!

    And Halle Berry got her first grammy for Having relations with billy bob thorton!

    I look at it like this, they will NEVER let us kick it on their level. Sad to say shyt is the same as the 50s/60s it just has a NEW FACE on it. Shyt, i bet some of you think KOBE is RICH, but the dude writing the check out is the Wealthy kat! A white mans heaven is a black mans hell!

  • Aunt Viv

    **giving Hollywood the side eye**

    I’m sorry, I remain skeptical.

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    @Michelle

    “whereas not all but a lot of mainsteams black films have racial inferences that sometimes may leave white folks to feel uncomfortable or left out.”

    I think that’s why we have to create our own market. Love him or hate him, Tyler Perry has created his own niche that focuses primarily on black — mostly female — audiences. I imagine a much smaller number of white film-goers seek out his films, but he is still very successful.

    I suppose I’m more concerned with more of us supporting quality black films and fledgling, talented black filmmakers than worrying about what would be palatable to white audiences. Perhaps it’s wishful thinking, but I believe that the artistic integrity of a film project does not have to be compromised in order to ensure its success, if we support it.

  • LaDiva

    If you are not part of the solution, then u are undoubtedly part of the problem.
    Bytchin’ and moaning about it is not a solution.
    Before we can accuse others of being racist, we should first point to our actions and words..
    Reflect long and hard about it…
    Being a hypocrite doesn’t help the cause….

  • carla

    What diversity? did you see vanity fair issue with up and comings? Hollywood has speckles of black how else do you think they all know each other.

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    chaka1

    bullsh’t!

  • michelle

    @sydney i think you have a very valid point.
    @ truth-truth, contrary to what you may believe not every white person on earth is the devil and i was just offering an explanation that was not necessarily mine. Some black people need to stop thinkin that everyone is against us because, do you know what without the support and financial backing from some of the ” demons” civil rights movement would not have progressed as it did. yes there are racist ppl but just like ignorance it too does not have colour.( at least not always)

  • Carmen

    Hollywood is still VERY RACIST period!!! Breaking barriers my AZZZ!!

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @white devil:you’re right Asians have it much harder.

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    White Devil, if you’re going to introduce the obstacles facing Asians in Hollywood, you might as well discuss roles for Hispanics as well. It doesn’t lessen the fact that challenges still persist for black directors, producers, actors, actresses, and the like. After all, that is the topic of the MSNBC.com article in question and of the thread, hence the focus of the discussion.

  • http://perryone779@yahoo,com a rose by any other name #9304026339482056536 ™

    If thats the case , everybody needs that mirror even most of the ones on here, like i said racism will always be here as long as you got one race thats thinks they are better than the others races,, deal with it like i do and i dont give a damn what anothers opinion is .. i have mine and it aint damn near as harsh as i have seen .. so be it! i still love me at the end of the day !! HAPPY FRIDAY SYDNEY!!

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @sydney:It’s considered “sexier” to feature black actors/actresses with counterparts of other races.

    thanks for the info & that’s such bull! It’s not that it’s considered “sexier” but more of a way for the media to brainwash us into believing that “swirling” is where it’s at! Pushing that IR agenda. Not that there’s anything wrong because I’m a firm believer of ppl dating/marrying who they wish regardless race/gender but the media tries it best to destroy images of black love.

  • LaDiva

    Sterotyping and biased comments don’t change the hate in your heart..
    This world has enough haters, no-b-o-d-y needs another one on that list.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @sydney: as far as hispanics in Hollywood being stereotyped/type-casted?yes,it’s very true however I can’t quite feel that bad since major hispanic/latin networks fail greatly in displaying black ppl,period! No bm nor bw even though Latin America is very diverse,black hispanics/afro-latinos/as don’t even stand a chance with them.

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    Happy Friday to you, too, Rose! I can’t wait to get out of here. I’m scared of the “Snowpocalypse.”

    @UrHeinessDaQueen

    The name of Henry Louis Gates’ documentary is “America Beyond the Color Line,” by the way. He also interviewed Nia Long in a segment on Black Hollywood.

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    @UrHeinessDaQueen

    “@sydney: as far as hispanics in Hollywood being stereotyped/type-casted?yes,it’s very true however I can’t quite feel that bad since major hispanic/latin networks fail greatly in displaying black ppl,period!”

    I’ve seen that topic broached on this site, and it’s a very sensitive matter, I believe. The recent LaLa thread touched on colorism.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @sydney:exactly

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    *there’s a shortage of Asians*

  • Somali Ninga

    How come i dont see alot of black actress getting big rolls!?!?
    How come they’re arent little or know big Asians and Native American actors????
    How come i dont see famous blacks in the magazines?!!?(essence, ebony, and hype hair dont count LOL)
    Hollywood is still racist!!

  • White Devil

    “all of the details”

  • Sydney™ (Eloise Gist)

    It felt animalistic to me.

    Anyway, I’m out. Got to get home out of the snow.

  • Kimmie – Southern Belle

    Progress in tolerance or acceptance? In my opinion no to neither.

  • michelle

    @ white devil, i think that was the point of the scene. culiminating to that scene in particular she had her husband excecuted and her child killed for which she blamed herself so i interpreted that scene as someone at their wits end who just wanted someone to “make her feel good” so she didnt have to be reminded of her tragic circumstances. thus i felt sorry for her character.

  • Marquis de Sade (Clarence Thomas)

    KINGLION

    Uhhh, Denzel Washington received his first Supporting Actor Oscar (not Grammy) for GLORY, and his Second (Best Actor) Oscar for Training Day.

  • LaDiva

    if your gonna use my words and pretend that it is not in reference to me then me a damn woman n address them to me instead of pretending that u aint reading my shyt…
    lol and then gettting all mad bcuz someone addressed u for reading their posts and them whining that ppl need to stop reading yours…

  • LaDiva

    *be*

  • Audacity of Dope

    @ Truth is Truth

    Do two things for me…
    1. Take your name off your posts and tell me what would YOU think of the person spewing such random, hate filled rhetoric not based in any real and tangible fact. If you’re anything like the rest of us you would think that surely only a fool couldve written such drivel.

    Secondly..

    Stop for a second and consider yourself trying to reach a wider audience with your “message”. How responsive will the enlightened and educated masses( a group to which you will most likely never belong unfortunately) be to your sentiments?

    Now go ahead and cuss me out. You’ve already proven that you have it in you.

  • Somali Ninga

    Hollywood has broken barriers!! WHERE ARE THE SOMALI ACTORS?!!?!?!?!!?

  • seriously?

    It seemed as if there were more black actors and actresses in the 90′s..and they got roles consistently. idk what changed

  • White Devil

    Flavor Flav went from “Burn Hollywood Burn” to “Flavor of Love”. How did that happen?

  • what is that

    there is a picture of two of our finest brothas!!! they represent well as well as morgan freeman and others that blazed the trail for other in the business..keep on keepin’ on!!!

  • Neo-Geo

    Remember, everything with the media is demographics…We (blk ppl) make up only 12%-14% of the US population…We can make black media for black people but the bottom line is money…People gonna want to make more so they will cater to the mainstream…If one wants to really strictly focus on the black audience, hope to have close to 100& of the black audience to sustain a profit if it is a matter to you…white media does not have to worry about that, they don’t need close to 100% of their audience to make a profit, cause their are so many of them in America…But black people as a whole, if we can take a bit of a financial cut in order to cater more to our demograhic and not always relying on white people approval we would be better off…But money talks..heh…

  • ManchesterUKer

    If they were there wouldn’t have to be ‘black’ tv shows etc.

  • manchesteruker

    @Marquis de Sade (Clarence Thomas)
    that’s not because she’s non-white it’s because she’s a woman, apart from in rom-coms, women are never cast as the lead in high-grossing films really

  • manchesteruker

    and btw, I live in the UK and there is no way in hell Tom Cruise is seen as more ‘bankable’ than Will Smith over here. Every film Will does is successful. The only vaguely bankable thing Tom Cruise has done in recent years is that Valkyrie and Tom Hanks hasn’t been in much in the past 10 years apart from the Da Vinci Code

  • kato benedict

    guys respect…..

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