Friday, July 18th, 2008
A Complicated Discussion
Posted by Bossip Staff
A heated debate popped off yesterday on The View. Whoopi Goldberg, Sherri Shepard and that squeaky voiced half-wit Elizabeth Hasselbeck had it out over the nature, use and history of the “N-Word”, with that dinosaur Barbara Walters playing the relatively safe moderator. Click HERE for a ganders.
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*sigh* @ this topic yet again
listen, elizabeth was saying to STOP USING THE N WORD – EVERYONE STOP USING IT and i agree with her .. whoopie and sherri were the sellouts trying to say they can use it! ELIZABETH won that round
i saw this on PHilton..whoopi let off in her ass! I have a new respect for whoppi! Because elizbitch comment didn’t make sense, but one quote she said did” How, are we suppose to move forward, if We used that word” but what she doesn’t understand is….White people can never used the N*igger word…they can’t! Black people use it in a different way..It means something different to us, and Messy Jackson, or Al permpton shouldn’t tell us how to use it and when to use it! They are just two common niggas!
o elizabeth shutup! http://www.girlfriendchurch.com girlfriends get the word!
Bossip the complication should have been b/c Whoopi choked Hasselback until she counted from a 1000 back to 1. Repercussions at it’s finest daytime hour. lol
elizabitch..didn’t win shit! She is stupid and Barbara, and joy was trying to tell her ass to shut the fuck up! Sherry, is ghetto in my opinion..they can put all the lipstick on a pig but that does not make her a lady! That bitch need to shut up and let whoopi handle the business
did yall see the way elizabitch tries to squeeze out some 1 second tears?
i have no idea why Elizabeth was crying..she’ll never understand..i hate when white people act as if racism exists because we use the word ‘nigga’..i hate discussing race..i’m going to leave this post now
i agree with you Bree….i’m out.
One one hand when a white person says the word they are racist….But when we say it we are not?
GTFOH people
Yeah Whoopi was trying to explain how we’ve turned their negative into our positive, but Elizabeth just didn’t get it. Now Whoopi can get on my nerve cause she is way too liberal and think everything is okay, but on this I give her kudos.
Same ol’ sh*t.
That Sherri Shepard got a heavy chest on her though… gotdayum…
@vgeezy
u dang on right. Just like women can refer to each other using the b-word, but men can not. This is America and there are double standards everywhere. Why should we allow white people to dictate how we refer to each other. Next they’ll be offended because we greet each other with “what’s up black man.” That’ll be us be racist too. Screw them my nig.
Elizbeth was crying for nothing! She act like she doesn’t understand the “double standard” but it is what it is…just like I’m sure she calls her mother/husband names jokingly at times, but it would mean something totally different if someone else was to call them that. Babara also makes jokes about her own age sometimes but it would sound different if Elizabeth was to call her old
Stop using the word already! It is not necessary I am not a n*gger, no one is!
I can not stand elizabeth what the hell does she know about anything. Her brush to fame was Survivor and was not a fan of hers anyway….
White bitch shut the fuck up already!!!
“That Sherri Shepard got a heavy chest on her though”
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I know right, just think about her neck, back, and sholders I know they hurt. just looking at her makes mine hurt then I flash back…
@K
“listen, elizabeth was saying to STOP USING THE N WORD – EVERYONE STOP USING IT and i agree with her .. whoopie and sherri were the sellouts trying to say they can use it! ELIZABETH won that round”
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I’m assuming your take on Elizabeth “winning” the round is your agreement that no one should use the N-word.
The only problem with this is that it completely disregards the “cultural” aspect of it. Agree with it or not, it is part of the lexigon of African-Americans with a different meaning than originally intended.
If you went to China, would you “shake hands” with strangers or “bow heads?” That is respect for cultural differences. Whits have traditionally not respected the cultures of others (Hitler,the Indians) to the point that this disrespect is part of their culture.
I side with Elizabeth. She just didn’t argue her point well. No one should use that word. It’s like telling your child to no do something but you do it right in front of them. Also, American Blacks are the only racial group that addresses themselves with a hateful term. You don’t see Latinos calling themselves Spics or Asians calling themselves Gooks. It’s a horrible word period.
Why are white people SOOO pressed to do everything that Black people do?
NO WHITE b#tch you can’t say the word and you know EXACTLY why = Cause you know the meaning behind the word and the negative connotations associated with it… YES, Black people can use it BUT YOU CANNOT!!!
Just like we know better than to call a Jewish person a kyke, an Asian person chinky eye – rice & dog eatin’…, a Spanish person a spic… We ALL know that we CAN’T call others the derogatory names that have been given to those groups, because it’s WRONG period and when you do you know exactly what you’re doing = trying to insult them…
Stop playing the “innocent fool”, I can’t STAND when white people do that = why can’t we do that bulls#it…
By the way, I like my white people white…
I’m not a big fan of wannabes – if you’re cool, you’re cool but stop trying to be something that you’re not… Just be yourself…
And all of that, “I understand Black people because I have Black friends” = NO mother f#cker you don’t, because you have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what Black people and other people of colors have to go through because we don’t have “white privelege”…
I can’t stand that dumb white b#tch Elizabeth Hasselback, she is one clueless b#tch and just like a fool you can’t tell her that she’s wrong…
AND, let’s not forget that as much as some of you hate on Wendy Williams…. She doesn’t use the “N” word on her show – SHE chooses not to use it – not because she was told not to but because she has SOME sense of morals.
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LOL!! Like Common said; “A WHITE man’s Yes is a BLACK maybe”
The best way to describe this word so that whites can understand is such:
Its not what you say, its the context in which you say it. Its just like women, and the word Bitch. If a man calls a woman a bitch, its meant to be offensive. But a woman can call her best friend a bitch, (white women do this too) and its not a problem.
EXP..Oooo girl you lost 15lbs, look at you, sexy bitch. OR if her best friend says something stupid, **side eye** Bitch, sit down.
Whats good Bruh?!?…., awe you graduated, WORD! My nigga! Followed by a hand shake, dap, or fist bump.
Ni@@a
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Ah, I feel better now
Black people do not own the word N*GGER- double standard BS. If YT said ” the word____________ ” belongs to us it would be own and poppin.
EH- needs to stop taking things so personal. She is very annoying
@ Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators (fka Keepin’ It Real – D’Original)
“Just like we know better than to call a Jewish person a kyke, an Asian person chinky eye – rice & dog eatin’…, a Spanish person a spic… We ALL know that we CAN’T call others the derogatory names that have been given to those groups, because it’s WRONG period and when you do you know exactly what you’re doing = trying to insult them…”
Yeah but these groups don’t use these words to address themselves either. Why do Blacks?
@ Lisa…
Please see my earlier post to answer your question. Women have done the same thing with the word Bitch!
@ At Slide:
Um, I don’t know about that. You mean to tell me that you see nothing wrong with all these Puerto Rican running around here saying “My Niggah” this and “My Niggah” that, but I can’t call none of them fools A bunch of Welfare-Funded SPICS!! No-no-no-no-no. I’m not feeling your statement on that one.
@Slide
I agree with your statement 100 (minus the expletives) lol I’m going to continue to embrace the N word ending in ‘gga’ as a black person rightfully should & can. Now the other version ‘gger’ calls for stomping the dear life out of the person in violation. Harsh yes… but even fake wars have casualties. lol
Slide, you sound like Paul Mooney…. lol He said
Ni@@a
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I like to say it every morning, it makes my teeth whtie! LMAO!
Wow! It still amazes me how many stupid black folks there are in the world. Whoopi and Sherri surprised the hell out of me with those ridiculous ass comments. I knew Sherri was not too bright but Whoopi, come on. It is not ok for ANYONE to use the “N” word. I hear a lot of Black folks saying it is a term of endearment, not its not. There is nothing endearing about being called N***a. When I used to use the word, there was nothing endearing about it, I meant it like white people mean it. Whoopi and Sherri just gave the white folks more reasons to call us N***as.
I’m sorry, but Whoopi and Sherry don’t speak for me. . N!GGER or N!GGA are negative terms, however you choose to use it. Elizabeth is right, why would you take a word that was created to demean you, and then refer to yourself and others like you with that word. . .that’s stupidity. You can’t tell your kids smoking is bad when YOU SMOKE IN FRONT OF THEM. . .again, N!GGER and N!GGA are both the same, period.
Yeah, that’s right I Said It!!! I live in the Bronx and I hear it out of their mouths ALL THE DAMN TIME! From males AND females. Am I lying?! HELL NO I’M NOT! And if ANY of Ya’ll feel so high and mighty about it, then teach your little rug-rats to have some Damn manners! THEN you won’t have to hear me come out my neck to call ya’ll spics / wet-backs or any other name that ya’ll don’t like.
NOW!!! AND WHAT?
Pauline….. Thats exactly why blacks use the word! Cause blacks, whites, mexicans, asians, all alike, use it to be hurtful…..
And you can’t possibly convince me that you’re BLACK, and are using to word aganist other BLACKS strictly to be offensive. Ppphulease!
I think that if anyone uses the “N” word, whether you are white, black, hispanic, whatever race, it shows your level of ignorance period.
[Paul Mooney predicts the future as "Negrodamus"]
Audience Member: Negrodamus, will Arsenio Hall ever have a show again?
Negrodamus: Yes. Arsenio Hall will have a new show called “Good Morning, Black America”. It will be played at noon throughout the country.
@ MissBlaze43
Thank you! That’s my whole point. Everyone is using that word nowadays to address Blacks. However, call a Latino a spic and see where that gets you.
YES, I have to give Pauline props for keeping it real! She said she used it in the same way a white person would.
Let me apologize to my Mexican brother’s and sister’s. I read an article where the Bloods in LA say they respect ya’ll ’cause ya’ll dont’ just do “drive by’s, ya’ll do walks ups” and blow a person’s brains out. That kind of energy is useful – BUT NOT TOWARDS US – Towards those (ILLUMINATI) who are trying to bring us ALL DOWN
Meme,
Like I said, when I used the word, I used it to be offensive to the person. I am not here to convince u that I am black simply because I dont have to. Also when u r replying to my email Ppphulease use proper grammar. You do not start sentences with And. Go back to the 7th grade
Whoopi and Sherri just gave the white folks more reasons to call us N***as.
White people don’t need a reason to call us anything. They do what the heck the wanna do. As will I. Now I bet all the people with a problem with us calling each other N*gga not N*gger didn’t have a problem before white folks became offended by you using it. Cause lets be honest. We flipped the minute they began using it like it was our name. Other minorities don’t refer to each by their racial epithets because they have an identity. We do not. So being the wonderfully intelligent and creative beings that we are, we chose to create our own identity. And a N*gga is not a N*gger. Only white-washed folks think so.
More votes for McCain. Why did I put my hands up like I was watching bad basketball play?
I don’t use it.
Elizabeth killed me trying to shed those fake tears. Since when did the N-word move her so much? The closest she will ever get to black is Whoopi sitting across from her at the table. That’s it. Answer me this: did she march with the Jena 6? Did she take her lily white a*s down to N.O. to help in the aftermath of Katrina? (not cut a check. That’s too easy). Does she support any of our causes or work with any charities that support af-am causes 100%? How much did she donate to the United Negro College Fund? Someone please tell me what her track record is in the black community. The word n*gg*r is not the problem. The word n*gg*r never lynched a soul. It never fought against equality. It never thrust anyone into an lopsided criminal justice system. The word n*gg*r never forced our children into failing schools. The word n*gg*r has never cut budgets or ended important social programs in our community. The word n*gg*r is juat that – a word. It is the hatred behind it that makes people of all races cringe. It is the hypocrisy in the case of Jessy Jackson that makes us cringe. The word n*gg*r is much like the words hope, education, vote, success, empowerment, and change. They mean nothing on paper or even coming out of our mouths without meaningful actions to back them up.
Big shouts to Whoopi for standing her ground and admitting that she uses the word and had no plans to stop.
Please! If they call me the “N” to my face THEY’LL SEE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS! This day and age I STAND UP FOR MINE! Like I said in yesterday’s postings – I’m ready to be DOWN FOR THE REAL CAUSES IN THIS WORLD! If that means them no-good goya eaten spics then hey…
@Lauren
LOL! That was hecka funny!
BITCH IS NOT THE SAME THING AS N*IGGER? PLEASE
@Pauline
You must be old school. Because it is now acceptable to begin a sentence with a conjuction.
i agree with elizabeth the word nigga is a demeaning word that should not be used,i was ashamed people like whoopi and sherry think its ok to call black people that.it should never be used.
Thats all you could come up with….. WOW! I You don’t have to convince me, quite frankly, I don’t care. AND (yes i started my sentance with such) this isn’t English Comp II or Technical Writing. This is a Blog site, 7th grade or not, be prepared to read slang and broken english! If you want correct grammar, GET OFF THIS BLOG, and go to school!
Toodles nigga, or chica!
Wow! It still amazes me how many stupid black folks there are in the world. Whoopi and Sherri surprised the hell out of me with those ridiculous ass comments. I knew Sherri was not too bright but Whoopi, come on. It is not ok for ANYONE to use the “N” word. I hear a lot of Black folks saying it is a term of endearment, not its not. There is nothing endearing about being called N***a. When I used to use the word, there was nothing endearing about it, I meant it like white people mean it. Whoopi and Sherri just gave the white folks more reasons to call us N***as.
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RRRRRRRRRRRIGHT! MAYBE U DON’T USE THE WORD AS ENDEARING, BUT MOST BLACK PEOPLE DO
“GET, OVER HERE NIGGA, WHAT’S UP NIGGA, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN NIGGA? NIGGA, WHAT’S GOOD?”
SO, I SEE WHERE WHOOPI WAS COMING FROM.
Yes, People. As you can see it is ALL part of the Illuminate (N.W.O = NEW WORLD ORDER) DIVIDE AND CONQUOR:
Divide the Minorities so that they won’t RISE UP AGAINST US. Let them HATE eachother, that way we won’t have to worry about THEM ALL BANDING TOGETHER to rise up against us WHEN WE’VE PUT INTO ACTION “THE PLAN”.
Did that make sense to any of you?
If they divide us in “THA HOOD” and have us all fighting with and against eachother, then they won’t have to worry about us.
As you can see… it’s working!
Lou in the Chi,
Well, I guess that would depend on who is reading the paper. I am in graduate school and wrote a damn long 25 pg. paper and my Prof. took off points for starting a sentence with But. Again I guess it depends on the reader.
And Pauline..this is a blog. Don’t take yourself so seriously. Please remove the tree limb that is protruding out of your ass. Thank you.
I think white people have to start using that word again. Beacuse if white people cant tell black people how to use that word and how black people define the meaning of it, than black people cant tell white people to stop using the word either.
Think about it, are a white woman or white dude a complete and total racist if they mention the word without the hate? no!
And please stop saying that other races and nationalities do not refer to themselves as derogatory terms. Nor do black people. We do not go around introducing ourselves or our friends and loved ones as ‘Nigga Shaunice’. Cut it out. But in their intimate circles, Spanish people do refer to each other as ‘Spics’ and Asian people do refer to each other as ‘Chinks’. White folks even refer to themselves as ‘pink toes’ and ‘flat assed white girls’. Keep it real.
And it’s funny how there is all this push to stop using the N-word but I don’t hear anyone standing up for the Spanish of the south. IF I HEAR ONE MORE PERSON REFER TO A SPANISH PERSON AS A MEXICAN, I GONNA FLIP OUT. As if the only Spanish people are Mexicans. When they hear that I’m from NY, their first question is “Do you guys have Mexicans up there also?” As if the word Mexican is dirty or derogetory. Wake up and then grow up!.
@ MissBlaze43
Why the need to insult Latin people in your posts? Kinda goes against this discussion. Don’t you think?
The best way to describe this word so that whites can understand is such:
Its not what you say, its the context in which you say it. Its just like women, and the word Bitch. If a man calls a woman a bitch, its meant to be offensive. But a woman can call her best friend a bitch, (white women do this too) and its not a problem.
EXP..Oooo girl you lost 15lbs, look at you, sexy bitch. OR if her best friend says something stupid, **side eye** Bitch, sit down.
Whats good Bruh?!?…., awe you graduated, WORD! My nigga! Followed by a hand shake, dap, or fist bump.
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Couldn’t agree more! It is what it is!
Meme,
It takes a lot more than your Bullshit to get me upset. Have a nice day Meme because I have to go work now. I dont have all day to sit and BLOG like u do. I dont collect WELFARE, I have to work and support u. Enjoy your weekend! I will enjoy mine!
Bottom line, the “N” word shouldn’t be used amongst us and others, it’s time to change our way of thought.. The word has a history behind it, which was and still is degrading to our people, no matter how you want to put it, plain and simple…
I don’t normally agree with Elizabeth, but I’m with her on this one.
I just recently consciously decided to stop using the word. I just feel like you have to respect yourself and your own before others will respect you.
Elizabeth was crying because she just doesnt get it. Her la-la land ass is living in a world full of green white people money with her foot baller boyfriend. Shes just too immature. And those tears were tears of validation. She feels as if she should validate her point because she is so “affected” by it. lol BITCH GTFOH…SHE A NIGGA TOO!
bosslady: ‘Chinks’. White folks even refer to themselves as ‘pink toes’ and ‘flat assed white girls’. Keep it real.
haha, you wish! Nope, only black people have taken a word that is so negative and made it a supposedly positive word for black people, but is it really a positive word when other races cant say it?
It’s like saying, we want to use the word freely, but we will always assume the worst of other people if they use it. That’s why other races need to start using that word. To take the sting out of it. To make it a regular word again. That ONLY has power to it if it is said with hate. not beacuse of the skin color of the person who say it.
MEME…. I GOT U ON THIS ONE-
In a world of PDA’s, smart phones, and let’s not forget good ole’ laptops, it is pretty presumptous(sp?) and frankly naive to think that because a person is online all day, they don’t have a job and sit home and collect welfare all day. THE SMARTEST PEOPLE PROVE THEMSELVES DUMBER AND DUMBER AS THE DAYS GO ON………
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003
allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004
allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310
grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049
assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921
allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Yes, People. As you can see it is ALL part of the Illuminate (N.W.O = NEW WORLD ORDER) DIVIDE AND CONQUOR:
Divide the Minorities so that they won’t RISE UP AGAINST US. Let them HATE eachother, that way we won’t have to worry about THEM ALL BANDING TOGETHER to rise up against us WHEN WE’VE PUT INTO ACTION “THE PLAN”.
Did that make sense to any of you?
If they divide us in “THA HOOD” and have us all fighting with and against eachother, then they won’t have to worry about us.
As you can see… it’s working!
OH child u ain’t lied. (I know that was so ghetto!) I’ve been saying that for the longest. If you keep every fighting over race, then they’ll forget that 5% of the population controls the worlds wealth. And that is what is really keeping everyone down. Not minorities.
Oh, damn. I’ts ILLUMINATI I, not E. Sorry.
Pauline….Thanks for talking DOWN to me, so classy!
On contrast to your statement, I’m at work. I have a rather relaxed salary job, that pays very well. So at my leisure, I check out CNN, and the African American BLOG sites….. and yes hunny, I have a BS degree, and am also in Graduate school….. So go support yourself, because you’re not supporting me.
Toodles Nigga, or chica!
White people especially read this please…..
For all of you who don’t know let me break it down for ya…
A) N!gger: A word that means ignorant person, developed by ignorant people who couldn’t pronounce Negro: The Spanish word for Black…Any one of any color can be ignorant, therefore anyone can be a N!gger.
B) Nigga: Never Ignorant, Getting Goals Accomplished= A word used mostly by African Americans or Black People that is a TERM of endearment. It can also have other meanings depending on how it’s used.
The reason we ( Black People) don’t have a problem with Spanish people saying it is because most Spanish people are brown, dark or non white in color, therefore they receive allot of the same oppression and prejudice that Blacks receive, there fore they can relate…
Ya see, Black people don’t pass judgement based on color, Most White people do. (it’s just a fact,but not all white people do)
The Reason White people CAN NOT SAY THE WORD???? It’s simple, White people will NEVER understand what it means to live with another race who has enslaved you, oppressed you, lied to you, raped you, stole from you, killed your family, divided and sold your family, and hated on you since the begining of Amerikka…( and continue to do so) They even systematically tried to erase your history, so you feel worthless and less of a person.( in order to keep you a mental slave)
Some say: well Africans made slaves of each other, well their slavery was not based on color, white ’s slavery was based only on color.
White people usually want to just wash their hands of the subject and say ahh forget about it, but one who is unfortunate enough to not know their past, is doomed to repeat it.
so Amerikkka will never be right until Amerikkka faces what it has done and apologized and made changes to stop prejudice acts and ways of thinking.
That’s the difference…
Let that marinate for a minute.
Sherri is lookig real nice.
Thanks Boss Lady!
Preciate you having my back!
Ya see, Black people don’t pass judgement based on color, Most White people do. (it’s just a fact,but not all white people do)
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LOL!!!
Take the foot out of your mouth!
So you are telling me you dont judge on color when you call white people white devil, when you get pissed when blacks date white’s, WHEN BLACK PEOPLE REFER to some blacks as lightskin, and some as darksin??? PLEASE
The pot kalling the kettle black, no pun intended.
darkskin*
@MissBlaze4
Gurl these negros on bossip are still living in a dream world they are not ready to receive knowledge concerning the ILLUMINATI or other secret societies! I have tried and tried to impart knowledge of people of our persuasion but they look at me like I am crazy.
makie: Thats what NAS waas trying to say with his record, that got misunderstood…
@Boss Lady
So true. I’m at work and blog all day. I have a bomb cushy job. That’s what a college degree will get ya. Besides most welfare mothers I know have to go to the library to use the computer, and you know they have time constraints. LOL
haha i think its funny when black people call each other niggas…just more stupidity..that would be like me saying to my white friend whats up cracker or honkey or whatever black people call us lol…i will be on the train and there will be a group of black guys, of course the loudest on the train and every other word out their mouth is nigga…nigga this and nigga that and i look around and see the old black woman and men shakin their heads..
Scarry, right? Also. I came across this website called EDUCATE-YOURSELF.ORG. Man… the stuff THIS guy is putting out there. Did you know that not ALL kidnappings are random. Educate Yourself kicked knowledge about our illustrious government snatching kids up for BRAINWASHINGS for SEXUAL Use and to carry out certain tasks for our government. Remember Denzel Washington’s “The Manchurin Candidate”? They don’t just make up these movies out of nowhere, people. It’s not a game.
N*ggers dont own the word Niggas just because that is what they call us just ask good ol Charlie SHeen
Take the foot out of your mouth!
So you are telling me you dont judge on color when you call white people white devil, when you get pissed when blacks date white’s, WHEN BLACK PEOPLE REFER to some blacks as lightskin, and some as darksin??? PLEASE
The pot kalling the kettle black, no pun intended.
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No hun, that’s judging based on history. Major difference.
@ BG
I just read your post. So I can assume based on your definition that a non-Black person including Whites can use the word N$gga as well because as you claim, it’s a term of endearment? Enlighten me.
Also, what part of the world do you in? Black do in fact judge others based on color. I read negative comments everyday on this site.
@ Makie….
Calling someone light skin or dark skinned isn’t a judgement….. its just a describing factor….like describing blonde vs. brunette.
Beyonce Knowles-Carter- Light Skinned
Kelly Rowland- Dark Skinned
I have to go on record and state that i don’t buy into this whole “BLACK PEOPLE CAN SAY NIGGA AND NOBODY ELSE CAN’T” argument. Lets’ be honest, the “N” word has pretty much worked its’ way into everyone’s conscious by nobodies fault but our own – Mostly due to the whole subcultural hip hop movement. Pandora’s Box has been opened, so for us (black folks) to constantly take umbrage when someone utters the “N” word is silly…Especially when that someone in question is black. So from this day forth, EVERYBODY IS NIGGAS!
@ Lou In the Chi
I agree. I don’t have a college degree, but I have a bomb ass job too, at a MEGA financial firm at that. Run by a BLACK MAN, too. But at the same time I HAVE to kick knowledge to those who are willing to learn and educate themselves on what’s to come.
@yeah i’m white
Here you go again. Don’t even act like you never heard a white person call another one a red-neck cracker? What about trailer park white trash? Denise Richards just did a whole episode on how she and her family are white trash. So whatever.
pauline
get the fuck out of here..that welfare bid is old! Because forreal..If you knew someone with a foodstamps you would buy them on the low! OOPS did I bust you out! ms. High and mighty?
LOL @ “Nigga Shaunice”
@
Just for fun
N*ggers dont own the word Niggas just because that is what they call us just ask good ol Charlie SHeen
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I just found this out!!!!
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I have seen Denise Rich up close and personal at several NYC events if she ain’t a HIGH YELLA sister than I don’t know what is. She is on a Lena Horne, Suzanne Depasse tip, where you can see the sistah in her but because of good doctors she has made herself very caucasian friendly. Not to mention she does not admit to being black ever.
@ Lou in The Chi-
Cosmetology license and working on my BA in Psych. But lest we forget to mention my good ole’ LAPTOP!!!! It’s always those who try to present themselves as better that show their true colors. Pauline probably was rushing out to her CNA or bus driving job. NOT THAT THESE ARE NOT SELF RESPECTING CAREERS. Haters- please reread our dialogue b4 you go there with me.
Damn Bossip I’m trying to post knowledge and ya’ll blocking me
@lou in the chi
sorry lou…im not a redneck nor have I ever seen a trailer park…i live in brooklyn and i have never heard a white person call another white person a cracker as a term of endearment..maybe people in trailerparks do but ive never heard it.
@Ms Suga
girl you know you from st. louis. I’m always looking to buy some stamps. But these folks up here hold onto theirs tight. But Illinois benefit package is way more cush than Missouri, so their welfare gives them enough cash to survive.
makie: ok let me speak to you with some sense, I hope you can understand…
Ya see I’m black, I refer to my friends and myself as N!gga quite often… My mom marched in the civil rights movement… she was down with the panther pride… I lived in SELMA ALABAMA (where the civil rights movement started, I’ve experienced prejudice from day one!! If any one should judge others based on color it would be me, but I don’t…. That’s the difference that you fail to understand about a N!GGER and a NIGGA like myself…
I’ve dated White women black Indian, spanish, African.. Japanese, it don’t matter, I judge devils (evil people who carry out the devils ways) as exactly what they are and how they act, as devils… I love all colors, nobody owns a color.. that is YOUR PROBLEM…. I am AN EDUCATED STRONG BLACK MAN… I BUILT AMERICA.. I AINT GOIN” NO WHERE. I AM YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE if you are a Devil….
Niger is was you call indigenous people of the area just like China (Chinese) Arabia (Arabs) America (Americans)
We let White America define what the term means for us. They word really has no power, it’s the actions. While being hung from trees they called us everything under the sun but why does the one word that ties us back to the MOTHERLAND become negative??? Think family
If we remove the power from the word and research we can understand that Niger isn’t derogatory. Massa was too stupid to know the difference
The colonist as always had no geographical sense of where they where in Africa- they began taking our ancestors from Niger and Nigeria-
What is it about this that whites don’t understand?
Why is it that American Whites expect to have the same cultural priviledges with blacks but no other segment?
If Indians had a celebration and requested for whites not to attend due to a cultural ritual, their would be no questions asked. Blacks have explained this time and time again to no avail.
An American White person would never expect to have the same priviledges as a Bhuddist Monk at a Bhuddist Temple!!
Whether you agree IF the word SHOULD BE USED or not is irrelevant because the word IS USED. Sort of like “closing the gate at the barn AFTER the horses have escaped.”
@DA PRO
GOOD MORNING YOU. HOW’S IT GOING? I SEE WE’RE ON THIS TOPIC (SOMEWHAT) AGAIN. WONDER WHATS GONNA COME OUT OF THIS ONE TODAY.
What’s up beautiful
It’s Friday sweetheart
Okay, so, here are the Locations for the US Concentration Camps. If you click on some of the other websites titled REX 84, some will have Pictures (I know some of you don’t believe shit unless its in black and white). Also, you will find what happened to a group of friends to decided to visit one of these facilities in California.
ALABAMA
ALASKA (the largest camp to date)
ARKANSAS
CALIFORNIA
COLORADO
CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE
FLORIDA
GEORGIA
HAWAII
IDAHO
ILLINOIS
INDIANA
IOWA
KANSAS
KENTUCKY
LOUISIANA
MAINE
MARYLAND & DC
MASSACHUSETTS
MICHIGAN
MINNESOTA
MISSISSIPPI
MISSOURI
MONTANNA
NEBRASKA
NEVADA
NEW HAMPSHIRE / VERMONT
NEW JERSEY (Ft. Dix / McGuire AFB – Possible deportation point for detainees. Lots of pictures taken of detention compounds and posted on Internet, this camp is well-known. Facility is now complete and ready for occupancy.
NEW MEXICO
NEW YORK (Ft. Drum – two compounds: Rex 84 detention camp and FEMA detention facility. Albany – FEMA detention facility. Otisville – Federal correctional facility, near Middletown. Buffalo – FEMA detention facility.
Lovin the new gravie baby- u look like u posing for top model
Lou in The Chi
That is right! I know people that be bitching all day long, and OOH just wait to the first of the month, you can’t get in and out of the grocery store..The lines be wrapped around..Shit…If you want something, you better get there early
I’m sick and tired of the whole race debate garbage, if you are not racist, than you are not racist. Move on, black folks use the N-word to the point that it’s an everyday occurence, it’s sad but that’s reality. It’s embedded into our music and culture, and it’s not going to stop. Black comedians use it, and the sad thing about it, black sitcoms use it, the longer black folks think that they can take the hatred out of a word, it makes white corporations billions of dollars, through entertainment. It’s sad, but the really sad thing about this is that this is another example of the sad state of black America. That word was used to enslave, kill, rape, sodimized, disenfranchised us in this country for 500 years, and now black folks in their quest to find some sort of acceptance in White America embrace it. How can any black person or any person want to refer to anyone by a name that to this day, is used as a tool for justification of murder, genocide, oppression of African people around the world, in Africa, Asia, S.America. But, hey it’s all in fun.
The people who used the word nigga never had to suffer like real niggas had to. Being tarred and skin peeled from their bodies, lynched, ran over with cars, in the case of Rosewood, a pregnant black woman, was trampled by a man on a horse. Or black townships being burned to the ground, or just outright stolen. But, hey when we say it, to each other it takes the sting out of the word. Sad and Pathetic excuse.
@Boss lady and MissBlaze
Yeah not saying u need a degree to have a good job. Just saying I have one, and don’t appreciate being categorized because I blog all day. I feel you though. Much respect to all the folks out there grinding hard and still able to blog all day. Blogging doesn’t=Welfare.
@YEAHI’MWHITE
“haha i think its funny when black people call each other niggas…just more stupidity”
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Explain the “stupidity” about it from your perspective.
Lou in the Chi: you got it!
Lisa let me explain…
just read your post. So I can assume based on your definition that a non-Black person including Whites can use the word N$gga as well because as you claim, it’s a term of endearment? Enlighten me.
ok I will——> Whites don’t grow up being opressed, hated on and enslaved and treated as second and third class people based on color, whites cannot usaully understand the life of being black, now this is not a blanket statement, because some whites who I’ve met, grew up with blacks and have been hated on for associating with blacks, although most of them know when and how to say the word with no problem, If you white and I say you’re my nigga, then you would know wsup.
Also, what part of the world do you in? Black do in fact judge others based on color. I read negative comments everyday on this site.
Ya see IGNORANCE IS BLISS… Blacks who judge based on color are usually brainwashed or ignorant or just don’t give a fuk about anything anymore and result to ignorant behavior, they could be considered some one who is not enlightened, like the field Nigga, verses the House Nigga… Do you understand???????
@Sugar walls
Gurl I miss St. Louis so damn much…I wish I could find someone with some stamps I would buy them quick fast and in a hurry…..LMAO
Down here in KC these chicks got all these chilren they ain’t selling nothing…..
Keep repping the “Lou”
@DA PRO
IT FINALLY POPPED UP(the gravie) NO ONE’S TOP MODEL IS GONNA TAKE A SHORTY LIKE ME. IM WAYYYYY UNDER THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT(LMAO) AND IM GLAD ITS FRIDAY. WHAT YOU GOT PLANNED FOR THE WEEKEND?
HEY MS. SUGAR WALLS. YOU SHAKING THINGS UP TODAY?
@Yeah I’m white
You may not refer to your own that way. But you said white people don’t do it. I just gave you an example that you can see for yourself. Tune into E! They show reruns all day long. And Ms. Richards, nor her family, live in a trailer park.
@ man, i just dont care
i think it is stupid for black people to call each other niggas as a term of endearement when it is a term that is used to degrade black people.
White people have this thing were they feel they can do whatever black people do. It’s beyond their understanding when you (a black person) tell them they can’t do something. They don’t understand it. Like it’s simple to me. The word does NOT have the say meaning to me.
@lou in chi
sorry i dont watch that show. Was she saying it like we are white trash as a bad thing? What was the context?
Dapro11 said: If we remove the power from the word and research we can understand that Niger isn’t derogatory. Massa was too stupid to know the difference
Thats right bro, thats why we use it the way we do… take the power back into our hands…
@YEAHI’MWHITE
You see people this perspon is a good example of a white N!GGER… thats how N!GGERS think
@Bohwe
You don’t know the suffering that people of today go through, how can you kn ow the suffering of all people of color? getting shot 51 times un armed is not suffering??? GTFOH!
Yo come with some KOWLEDGE WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING OR DON”T COME AT ALL.. COME WIT IT!!!!
N!gger: A word that means ignorant person, developed by ignorant people who couldn’t pronounce Negro
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AMEN BG!
That’s history for your ass, the word was mispronounced by ignorant ass white trash southerners.
real talk STEFANY, now who is the real N!GGER??????
feel me, it’s all a trick…
yea im white…
I think you are stupid for thinking we are stupid.
Blessing yall with a new Gravie………
@DaPro: This post is waaaay more entertaining…
I Think………
@Yeah I’m white
No she was saying it as a term of endearment. They went out and had a white trash day. Fishing. Four-wheeling, and such. Have you ever heard of the white trash games? You should look it up. They do some pretty funny sports and embrace the term. And I don’t hear anyone saying how disgraceful it is. Its actually a widely attended event.
@YEAHI’MWHITE
“i think it is stupid for black people to call each other niggas as a term of endearement when it is a term that is used to degrade black people.”
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Is it your posistion that definitions of words of can not change over time?
@bg
how am i a white nigga? because i think its stupid when black people call themselves the most degrading name possible, given to them by the white man btw, but think its a term of endearment?
This is a topic that won’t ever go away, so hey. If you raise your kids not to say it, then they won’t until they get a little older and decide whether or not they’re going to use it.
I remember when you used to not be able to say it on the radio, they would stop kids from dedicating songs to their “n!gga”, now it’s no problem.
I do agree that if we stop saying it in songs and as a term of “endearment”, then others will stop saying it-in public.
And it always kills me to see Latino and Asian kids using that word with each other. A group of Asian kids on the train saw me when they said it, and they looked terrified. I just told them if you all think you’re some n!ggas go ahead and keep acting like n!ggas.
I felt like an old lady for doing that, but oh well. They’re going to say what they want regardless of what it means and the history behind it. I’m no saint, I will use that word when I’m with my girlfriends, but not often. I always hate to hear it, so I try not to use it.
HEY ROZZA!
bottom fuckin’ line, IF YOU’RE WHITE, YOU CANNOT USE THE N WORD. PERIOD. that’s all the explanation you need. we’re wasting time trying to reason with white people over the use of the N word. REGARDLESS of whether black people use it or not, like sherri shepard said, if you’re white, “I DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH”. and that’s all there is to it, end of discussion.
@ Bohwe
I feel u but again I’ll repost
Niger is what you call indigenous people of the area of Niger originally
just like China (Chinese) Arabia (Arabs) America (Americans)
We let White AmeriKKKa define what the term means for us. They word really has no power, it’s the actions. While being hung from trees they called us everything under the sun but WHY WOULD THE ONE word that ties us back to the MOTHERLAND become negative??? It was implanted in our psyche to become negative and remove all traces of our HIS-STORY Think family
If we remove the power from the word and research we can understand that Niger isn’t derogatory. Massa designed our destruction
Anyone who believe black today aren’t targeted due to skin color need to watch the news. A white man was arrested for running over and killing a black woman the other day, I believe in Florida. His reasoning: All blacks need to die. And this is what he told the police. In 2002 a black teen was killed and hung crucificion style to an iron fence in Springfield, MO.
and they need to kill all that BS about how they don’t ‘understand’ why they can’t use it too. they understand EXACTLY why they can’t use it; they’re just trying to manipulate black people into letting them get away with saying it, and trying to use the excuse of “we’re moving forward in history”. whatever. white people cannot use the N word, and that’s all there is to it.
For once I have to say I agree with Elizabeth. How can we tell another race how to use a word, but will not allow other races to tell us how to use it?
Black people should stop using the word all together, simply because it cannot be controlled. As Black people, we have deluded ourselves into thinking using the word takes the power out of it. That is one of the BIGGEST LIES going around. If we have taken the power out of the word, white people should be able to walk up to us and call us that word and we not get upset….because the power has been taken out of it, right?
Just from basic comprehension, one cannot know how a person means a word based upon their skin color. If Jay Leno called his sidekick Kevin the n-word, it is safe to assume he meant it in a bad way, simply because Jay is white?
Have you ever witnessed to Black men in a heated argument and one refers to the other as the n-word? If black people use it as a term of endearment, why to many of us use it when we are upset?
Anyway, I was saddened, disappointed, embarrased and angry at Whoopie and Sherry and I have written to them both. Again, the word is too poisonous to be controlled. We as black people should just face reality and be real….it is a bad habbit we picked up in slavery, and do not want to put effort into breaking that habit. So we will use every excuse imagineable to justify it’s continued use. So we will add a ‘a’ instead of ‘er’ and say it doesn’t mean the same. We will argue reclaiming the word, which we cannot do. And we will say we use it to take the power out of it, yet the word still has power because we get upset when people of other races use it.
The Bible says, “my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge”. It also says, “death and life is in the power of the tongue”. We are speaking death to our own people everyday and do not have the knowledge that we are doing so. We are speaking into existence the very thing the White man labeled us, foolishly believing we have changed the meaning. We have not. Personally, I believe our community would vastly improve if we stop calling each other that word. We would stop speaking that lie unto ourselves, whether we have good intentions or not.
BEAUTIFULLY HUMAN (sxyQblondie)
You soooo have a body that’s made for SEX! BE MINE AND I’LL SLAY MANY A’ DRAGONS TO WIN YOUR FAVOR!
BAM!! BAM!! BAM!! NEW GRAVIE ON DEY AZZEZ!!!! LOL
wow stefany…harsh…sheesh…lol yall know yall get fired up about this
I use the word…I use it as a term of endearment and I also use it when someone is being very ignorant. I even use it when my dog is being bad (get over here niglet). But for those who have chosen not to use it, you can’t tell me you ain’t thinking about using it, which is just as bad as using it itself. So you might as well come out with it. Bottom line is the word is ever gonna go away.
yoyoyo…daPro…how r u?
Is this Shaw? Is this Raymond Shaw? Is this Sergeant Raymond Shaw? THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE! That movie had more meaning to it than ANY OF YOU WILL KNOW.
So, I found the web-site:
END THE N.W.O / FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT
Click on Mind Control and you won’t BELIEVE what’s there. AND they give names so that you can research further! Very heavy information here. Only venture into these sites if you can HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
this thread too heavy for a friday for me..LOL
@dayg715
dont tell me i cant use the word…its a word..how did it become YOUR word…the only time i use it is to degrade a black person…also i would never say whats up my nigga to one of my white friends cause that would be disrespectful and deragatory…none of my white boys wants to be called a nigga…somehow black people instead of trying to do away with the word…they try to embrace it and make it a good word mean while white people are laughing at you…
@sxyQ: Bossip is cutting me off. Get a better server you cheap bastards!
Erm
What’s up lady
Sxy
Where u hiding? Somebody check’n for u
I think that Elizabeth meant well. She’s still very young and just doesn’t understand a lot of things. Wisdom comes with age and experiences. Whoopie made some valid points. Kudos!!!
Bossip??? what’s going on. ya’ll won’t let me get this last part out.
@ DaPro
Peace Brah. Good post. People lose sight of the fact that a word does not possess the power that the intent behind the word does. They also don’t overstand the true origin of the word. Our history did not begin at slavery like their HIS-story books would lead us to believe. Your post was on point.
Okay. It was about MIND CONTROL but I guess it was too much to put out there to you, so go to the website:
END THE N.W.O / FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT
On the list of items on the left, click on MIND CONTROL and you’ll see the stories and teisimonies from those children who were kindapped by our government and the ones who haven’t been killed or who are still in jail will tell you of their stories and who they are still running from the government and living on the streets HOMELESS because of the fear they have for themselves and their families.
Remember: only TRUTH SEEKERS need visit these sights!
@DAPRO
IM HERE, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF I WANT TO DISCUSS THIS TOPIC FOR A THIRD TIME THIS WEEK(LOL) I SAW THE COMMENT TOO. LOL
@ROZZA
I POSTED A COMMENT ABOUT AN EMAIL RECIEVED ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO, THEYRE STILL TELLING ME THAT MY COMMENT IS AWAITING MODERATION..SORRY SUCKAS
Preciate it brotha
I think we focus to much on the word, the enemy knows this
I’m trying to broaden my knowledge family about our ancestry or the plight we face- any book suggestions?
Slide, you sound like Paul Mooney…. lol He said
Ni@@a
Ni@@a
Ni@@a
Ni@@a
Ni@@a
Ni@@a
I like to say it every morning, it makes my teeth whtie! LMAO!
@ Lauren, you ain no good…*crackin up at that post*
@Yeah I’m White
“Is it your posistion that definitions of words can not change over time?”
DaPro you speak older than you are….
Wise beyond your years in some aspects I’d say..impressive
@ DaPro11
Go on the website above. AND
there is one book: BEHOLD A PALE HORSE by William Cooper. Good read.
Truth that was for you soldier
Sxy
I saw you ducking behind the tree for a minute LOL
Yeah it gets heavy when discussing race-I respect folks view on here so I say my piece and keep it moving
U working hard or hardly working??
@man, i just dont care
i guess they can change but to be honest it really has not..when white people want to call black people a derogatory name they call them nigga’s. I think the definition only changed for black people..and i dont think it completely changed, maybe just took on a second meaning.
I heard of that book- I think my cuz’n told me about it
refers to the lack of reproduction by the white man???
@vjhe
In your opinion, do words ever change their meaning over time?
Do you think that cultural inequalities are unjust?
erm
Some aspects??? You calling me half slow??
@YEAH I’m White
the meaning wouldn’t change for a white person, we don’t expect it too either
Peep NWA (Niggaz With Attitudes) They made the world take notice and became a threat
but then they became Niggaz4Life
There is a difference and took on two different personas as a group
Yeah but these groups don’t use these words to address themselves either. Why do Blacks?
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@Lisa
My best answer is = cause they want to… It’s a Black thing you wouldn’t understand and don’t worry about it….
I know what the derogatory terms are for the other groups and know better than to call them one because it will cause problems… As they say “if you don’t want no sh#t, don’t start no sh#t”…
I don’t care what other people call each other…
Why would it be any of my concern for what others call themselves – how is it affecting my life?
Is it affecting my community? = No
Is it affecting the money coming in my pocket? = No
Is it affecting me reaching my life goals? = No
Is it affecting my happiness? = No
So after all of that I could care less what others call themselves…
@DAPRO
YEAH I WAS DUCKING(LOL) WAITING FOR YOU TO COME ALONG AND CYBER SAVE ME(lol). IM WORKING HARD AT HARDLY WORKING SO THAT THESE JOKERS WONT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE(HA HA)
YEAH RACE HAS BEEN THE TOPIC FOR THE PAST 3 DAYS AROUND HERE. AND EVERYDAY I HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT IGNORANCE IS COOL. THERE IS OFTEN NO NEED TO ADDRESS A FOOL ABOUT THEIR SILLY WAYS OF THOUGHT. WITH SOME PEOPLE, ATTEMPTING TO GET THE TO LET GO OF THEIR THINKING, IS LIKE TRYING TO PULL A BOTTLE OF MAD DOG 20 20(CHEAP WINE) FROM THE CLUTCH OF THE CORNER DRUNK. YOU’RE ASKING FOR A TUSSLE, AND YOU MAY WALK AWAY MORE PISSED THAN YOU WERE WHEN YOU ARRIVED.(lol)
@ Yeah I’m white
i guess they can change but to be honest it really has not..when white people want to call black people a derogatory name they call them nigga’s. I think the definition only changed for black people..and i dont think it completely changed, maybe just took on a second meaning.
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Actually when a white person wants to degrade a black person they call them a ni**ER not a ni**A.
@Yeaa I’m White
“i guess they can change but to be honest it really has not..when white people want to call black people a derogatory name they call them nigga’s. I think the definition only changed for black people..and i dont think it completely changed, maybe just took on a second meaning.”
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So you acknowledge definitions CAN change over time.
You also acknowledge the “changed defintion” for blacks, by specifying blacks this acknowledges a cultural difference in the definition. This by your statement “I think the definition only changed for black people.”
If you acknowledge “changed definition for blacks,” than wouldn’t that mean you recognize the fact that whites REFUSE to ACKNOWLEDGE the different cultural meaning?
I think is the reason “haha i think its funny when black people call each other niggas.”(your statement at 11:25).
You feel whites will never recognize a “cultural difference.” Or do you disagree?
Is it your opinion that some whites have chosen not to acknowlege
I use the word…I use it as a term of endearment
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@kamini
Whad’ up my ni@@a?
How’s everything?
@amber
i know but the site does not let you spell it like that.
@ yea I’m white
Go ahead and chuckle it up. Why should we care? I don’t think we have ownership of the word either. With that, I agree with you. However, if you decide to use the word be careful of your intent. That is where the hate comes from…..not from fixing your mouth and tongue to pronounce a word. Your intent is what might get you introduced to the bottom of someone’s Timberlands. Not the word. Personally, I wouldn’t care about you using the word OR your intent. I’m a little too comfortable in my own skin for that. Knowledge of self is a beautiful thing.
That’s the problem with black people. We don’t want to move forward. It’s like we have this little bubble of poverty, babies out of wedlock, and ignorance and we want to stay in it. We are the only idiots using our own racial slur. No other races uses theirs. You can’t say we made it into our own thing because white people don’t get it. They are laughing at us. They don’t understand. When will blacks wake up?
Ok, I never use the N word but my question is…why do white people want to use the N word? Their arguement is if you can use it why can’t we? My arguement is why would you want to use it and how would you use it? I would say, give me a sentence on how you would use the N word if we were to say that you can use it. They are just upset because a nasty word that they used to bring us down, we revised it and now it means something totally different. White people shouldn’t worry about it or even care about that word. There are other words in the english language that you have to choose from just leave the N word out of it.
SXY
Lets take a walk sweetheart. It’s friday email a brotha
daprophet0605@yahoo.com
That is certainley NOT what Behold a Pale Horse is about. That book is written by a white man who was in the army for many years. He’s seen all kinds of injustices done that he is writing about. A lot of what I’ve been posting – he’s written about – but people aren’t hearing. Here is a white man kicking knowledge what the government is doing to destroy us. I don’t know what book your cousing is talking about but it’s not Behold a Pale Horse!
Some aspects??? You calling me half slow??
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@ DaPro
Noooo, im just sayin, on this particular topic your answers and reasoning are insightful and educational…
On the other subject, what we discussed yesterday, I still find the responses I receive perplexing
Niggas will never learn!
All us niggas wanna be equal, but yet we cannot let the simple term go. Stop hatin’! Y’all niggas need to WISE UP LOL!
If you ALL stop using the word, MAYBE we can move FORWARD! A debate over white people saying dis, and black people saying dat only DIVIDES us apart. Niggas need to grow up!!!!!
Blaze
Thank u, that’s why I asked. Details my dear
Erm ask away
I wasn’t serious about the half slow comment
@ Merideth
Their waiting for some more planes to hit more buildings for them to LISTEN!! But just like 9/11 people STILL won’t believe!!!
@man, i just dont care
well according to most of the posts on this topic white people will never understand it..we have not been through the black mans struggle or walked a mile in your shoes or whatever. I do believe white people acknowledge that the word has taken on a different meaning to black people. I mean you cant get through a rap song without it mentioned 10 times. However i believe most white people dont really care what it means to black people. For white people it means one thing, a racial slur. Also, according to the posts and my own personal thinking white people should not use it as a term of endearement, how can we? White people dont wanna be called niggas so i wouldnt use it with them and if i went up to a black dude and said wats up my nigga, i would prob get my teeth knocked in.
@DA PRO
BOSSIP IS NOT LETTING MY COMMENTS THRU.
@illuminate
i agree 100%
Bossip,
Set my girl free!!!!
I want to know who sets this site up because they never block the racial or harrassing comments
i cant for the life of me understand why white folks started the derogatory word to degrade blacks and in still in this day and age fussing with blacks on the right to use it. Dayg 715 makes the most sense, dont use it, sure nobody can make you not use how stupid is that but use it at your own risk, they only way it should be used is if i can walk upi and call you a honkey, other than that no, doesnt matter why what black folks call each other, since when have you whites been interested in what blacks do?
@ DaPro11
Google this guy: Ted Gunderson (Please, for the sake of the cute, little child in your picture. Please google that name and see what you find out)
With that, I’m going down to sit by the water with a nice, cold drink (water, mind you).
@Yeaah I’m White
“However i believe most white people dont really care what it means to black people. For white people it means one thing, a racial slur.”
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So the real problem is that whites will accept the changed definition of a word over time with the exception of derogatory words aimed at blacks?
I wonder why that is….
Does anyone here use the N word in their day to day conversations?
It always seem odd to me to hear rappers say that word in all their songs, using the word so often, when in day to day life I can go weeks without hearing that word.
They are both right……that word has been dead to me since 1992……you cant take a racist gesture and make it mean sumthing other than what it is…..its time to break free of the mental chains…
Why can’t we all just stop using the word – that way, no one gets offended.
Would it kill us to stop using the word – I don’t think so.
@DA PRO
THATS OKAY FOR BOSSIP. I’LL KEEP MY COMMENTS TO MYSELF(LOL) I JUST EMAILED YOU
I agree withb slides like gaters, why would it be my concern what other races call each other, it is not affecting my growth in life, i have heard white call amy winehouse trailer trash and a few other whites/ never even crossed my mine to argue over the right to call them that. I agree that it is not the word its the content of the hurt you mean to throw out when you use it and i know of no blacks who mean to degrade when they use it, they use it as a term of greeting like whats up my dogg.
@man, i just dont care
can you give an example?
@ Sniper
You’re right. I can honestly say I don’t use the word it’s disrespectful to refer to a black man as a ni**a. I go for weeks and months without hearing it also. It sounds stupid when ppl say it over and over in their conversation. I think it’s a lack of vocabulary to say it over and over again when referring to someone.
@ lou in the chi……. Finally, someone in here with some sense, and logic.
Certain groups, whether black, white, female, male Jewish, Muslims and various other groups, have certain privileges and license, to use phrases, and words that another unrelated group can not.
Lou in the chi, your example is a great one.
I hear women calling each other bitches, and hoes as the day is long. However, being that I am a man, I can not approach a group of women, and say what’s up bitches, what’s up hoes, without expecting some serious repercussions. Why?
Because I am not apart of that privileged group. The fact that I have a penis, disallows me from using the word bitch, to engage a group of females. With one exception, and that being, if I were to be a flaming gay man. And there are many other examples, that time restricts me from getting into at the moment, that will prove this thesis‘.
But for those of you that still don’t get these simple concepts, then you are apart of the privileged group, of idiots.
But ironically, it would be wrong for me to call you that, because I am not apart of that unfortunate privileged group .
I will get deeper into this matter soon, and say what Whoopi, and her co-host should have explained, in a more cohesive manner. However, I have a plane to catch. And traffic here in Miami is a bitch. And I can say Miami traffic is a bitch, because I live here. ARTOFWAR.
@MissBlaze43
I am trying to find the book Behold a Pale Horse but they have at least 30 different books by that title…. Who is the author?
Thanks
Bottomline is WHITE people need to mind there own buissness. I don’t care how they refer to eachother and they should not care how we refer to eachother! They should just know by now not to say that word around black people PERIOD. I try not to use the word, not because there is anything wrong with it but just because there is so much hype about it. Stay the fukk out of our culture do we tell them anything about kissing their dogs in the mouth, which is disgusting by the way. Do they know dogs eat their own SH!T?
No other race has the tight to use the “N” word what so ever, especially white people.
opps right, my bad
@ AMBER
Hey Amber
“You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world considers a N!gg3r”
-James Baldwin
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE….As Black people, we hold conflicting thoughts about a lot of things. White people gave filthy meaning to the N word to define Black people to make themselves feel justified in their inhumane and evil treatment of them. Black people had to turn the word around because it’s not like it was leaving the dictionary. So we redefined it to take away “some” of the pain. It has gotten out of hand, but what the psyche does to protect itself is some kind of awesome.
As Black people in America, we’re constantly under a magnifying glass and held responsible for all of America’s ills. America has gotten away with the worst crimes committed against humanity. To this day, they continue those crimes here and abroad. Black people were brought to this country to build it for White people and now their ancestors are reaping the benefit of our ancestors blood sweat and tears. Our ancestors worked this land without pay, without vacation, without ceasing, without rewards. And our families were destroyed, our languages taken away, our men were used for breeding, our women nursed their babies, cooked their food, landscaped their homes and the list goes on. The crime of the White man is one of monstrous proportions and the universe will make them pay unless they repent in some way.
We are crazy from lack of education, medical attention (physical and mental) and the means to care for ourselves and our families. And they are crazy for thinking all is well and nothing happened.
And nowhere in the history books does it share the achievements and contributions to the world by Black people (discussion for another time). So, the picture they’re painting for us and the world is that we’ve done nothing of value. They perpetuate a system that fosters self hatred among us. The system was designed to lock us out..we were an experiment, not meant to be where we are today and now that we are, they don’t know what to do with us. They don’t have the understanding that we’re human beings just like they or anyone else on this planet because they want to hold on to their “stuff.” They want to continue thinking they’re superior. They’re afraid that we’re going to do to them, what they did to us and nothing could be further from our minds.
They have a vested interest in remaining ignorant. It serves a purpose for them. They’re greedy and selfish…not all, but way too many.
@ M-daddy
Hey! I haven’t talked to you in ages!! How have you been???
Um, I don’t know about that. You mean to tell me that you see nothing wrong with all these Puerto Rican running around here saying “My Niggah” this and “My Niggah” that, but I can’t call none of them fools A bunch of Welfare-Funded SPICS!! No-no-no-no-no. I’m not feeling your statement on that one.
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@MissBlaze43
My personal opinion on Puerto Ricans using the n-word is that they CAN use it…
My reasoning is that they have African Blood running through their veins…
Puerto Rican People are made up of African slaves, Taino indians (people native to the island) and Spanish people… Some of them have darker complexions than others (just like all of the other Afro-Latino communities = Brazil, Dominican Republic, some parts of Cuba, etc…) but regardless – I’m with the one drop rule or whatever to make it simple = If you look Black you gonna get treated like you Black…
If you’re not feeling my comments/posts = cool
I’m not feeling you’re “New World Order”/Conspiracy Theory posts…
This is a celebrity gossip blog which I look at as a place for fun & entertainment… When Bossip has a picture of a half naked woman, I’m not trying to read your post about Bush or some other Evil white man who is plotting to rule the world and/or to look at a dollar and see their sign…
Do The Knowledge
@ miss blaze… I feel you completely. I live in the Bronx as well, and all Hispanic people say it. We discussed this in one of my sociology classes and this Dominican girl was trying to give her reason for using it… she really thought she had a point. I’m biricial… I don’t use it. I don’t because my father, a black man who grew up in the civil rights era, would never use it. I understand his pain connected with it, so I don’t use it. However, I do understand and see how black men use it as something positive. It just pissed me off that this girl really thought she had a right to use the word… I don’t feel I have that right.
I tivo The View everyday. There was a lot more to this. It began cause Whoopie was getting in her ass as usual about blacks & whites being in 2 different worlds. Liz does not comprehend that blacks & whites are treated differently. She talk like she lives in a bubble where there is no racism & all people are treated fairly. Whoopie is getting tired of explaining to this old ass girl that their worlds are different. Whenever Liz start losing an arguement, like the average white bitch, she start to cry. This arguement was different than politics because those are just different opinions. Whoopi & Sherri was telling her something (FACTS) that she cannot debate.
Everyone can’t help but laugh at Black people. They are shrouded in negativity and revel in it. The only group of people that condones violence and misery. Where getting ahead is considered “selling out”. Let them call themselves derogatory terms. All we can do is sit back, shake our heads and laugh at them while we go to school, get married, raise a family and save for our future.
@AMBER(Check me out!)
@ M-daddy
Hey! I haven’t talked to you in ages!! How have you been???
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I’ve been good, just busy as usual.
I Don’t think anyone should use the word. I am black and get more offended when I hear it come out a black person’s mouth. If a racist said it, I would expect so much.
I AGREE WITH ELIZABETH
@amber85(Check me out!)
Everyone can’t help but laugh at Black people. They are shrouded in negativity and revel in it. The only group of people that condones violence and misery. Where getting ahead is considered “selling out”. Let them call themselves derogatory terms. All we can do is sit back, shake our heads and laugh at them while we go to school, get married, raise a family and save for our future.
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Let me take a wild guess, you are white right??
STOP USING THE WORD
STOP IT.
IF YOU CALL MY MAMA A HO, YOU ARE NOT TALKIGN ABOUT A GARDEN TOOL.
STOP USING THE N WORD
DONT DEFEND IT
also @ Slide… There is no doubt that Puerto Rican people have African blood in there veins, but call one of them black… they get offended. Call a dominican black… they are a group of hispanic people who have the most african in them out of all the hispanic cultures… a group of people who share their island with Haitians… they get offended as hell….
@ M-Daddy
Oh no, there’s another Amber in here tarnishing the name!!!
@Yeaa im white
Examples of what?
*their+
Reign
Damn good post
amber85 “while we go to school, get married, raise a family and save for our future”
White Amerikkka is in trouble so while your busy laughing at us- your husband got laid off, the mortgage is late, you live next to a pedophile thats been eyeing your son
Oh, the bank folded and your savings is gone
So keep laughing
@ man, I just dont care
you said:
So the real problem is that whites will accept the changed definition of a word over time with the exception of derogatory words aimed at blacks?
an example of a word that changed definition over a period of time accepted by whites.
@AMBER85
I received an email that is simular to what put, if not the same thing. I believe that email that I received was sent by a black person to get us to think. One thing I will not allow any person to do to me is to provoke me to hate. Although your words are offensive I believe what the good book say, “No weapon formed against me shall prosper”. Even words.
@ Amber….
On contray to what you believe….. many blacks live the same as whites…. jobs, college, marriage, raising families,….its just not portrayed in the media. What interest would they have? The media only has one interest in our lives, and thats exploiting crime and hip hop…
As you’ve noticed, with the nomination of Barack Obama, they now have a vested interest in the lives of blacks. We’ve seen more, state congressmen/women, judges, educated officials because as analyst on news panels because theirs now an interest in the black voice.
I have to agree with the person who said whites shouldn’t be so concerned with what we are saying within our culture. Just like a group of gay men can refer to each other as “queen” or “f@g”, I know I can’t. My girlfriends and I use the term “bitch”, but it would not go well for a man to call one of us that. I hate when white people act simple. No one is buying the innocent, “I don’t understand” crap.
Its high time we as a race stopped playing the victimology game ! it has and will never take us anywhere but backwards and btw we are a race might also be irrelevant soon . Latinos will be the dominant minority group then what my people ? we will be 3rd tier ! Liberalism and entitlement programs were the worst thing to have happened to the black race in America, trust you me on that one.
Y’all have a nice weekend and please do some soul searching and look yourself in the mirror while you are at it.
@Amber85
“Everyone can’t help but laugh at Black people. They are shrouded in negativity and revel in it. The only group of people that condones violence and misery. Where getting ahead is considered “selling out”. Let them call themselves derogatory terms. All we can do is sit back, shake our heads and laugh at them while we go to school, get married, raise a family and save for our future.”
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Please describe the “negativity” that blacks “revel” in.
Please give examples of blacks “condoning violence and misery.”
In your words, what exactly is “getting ahead” and “selling out.”
@ Kamee
She’s Amber85, I’m Amber
^^ I totally butchered that last sentance^^
LOL…. oh well, its just a blog. You get the point though.
@Amber
My bad chica’….
Reign,
You have the best post on this board, that was so intelligent and well said.
Thanks!!
@AMBER(Check me out!)
@ M-Daddy
Oh no, there’s another Amber in here tarnishing the name!!!
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I know the difference boo, I know that wasnt you.
People give power to words. 40years ago if someone told you your shoes were BAD! you would think they were insulting you. The definition of words changes with the culture. N-word is no different.
To just stop using it? its too late, you cant put the genie back in the bottle. If you did that you make it THAT more powerful.
Anybody who wants to use the word can use it. The word means and represents different things to different people. If Elizbeth uses that word in her private life you best believe it is not like “oh that’s my igga” it is going to be like “that igga cut me off in traffic”. That is the difference. THe word is not going away. It definitely just makes Jesse look ignorant for making a big deal about other people using the word then in what he thinks is a private conversation he uses it. I love how Whoopi said FOX news says the video was leaked and they didn’t know how. Yeah right! The fact that he uses it privately shows how ingrained that word is. I try my best not to use the word after being in an awkward situation where a white friend of mine was singing a song and she said Igga it made me feel weird. We were open minded enough to have a conversation about it. All this “one” world crap sounds good but it is not the reality that we live everyday. I am not a woe is me the white man is on my back type person but the statistics speak for themselves. If Elizabeth can’t understand why she can’t use the word when speaking to Sherri but Sherri can use it when talking to Whoopi tell her to try using it off air then there will be a post about Elizabeth getting that A$$ tore up!
@Yeah I’m White
gay-originally meant happy
cool-originally described tempature
bad-originally a negative description
lesbian-originally described people from a particular place
khaki-originally a color
ain’t-I know the def. didn’t change but it was originially not a word, but due to it’s use has been included in dictionaries.
These are off the top of my head. People have researched words for years, you can google Etymology to begin research if you like.
Reign I co sign 100% REAL TALK–Good Post
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It’s a shame that there are so many people like YEAH I’M WHITE in this world, just lost…. SMDH
Da pro and SXYQBLONDIE.. Whats up friends… no in thru with that junk yesterday and any other day… i am woman hear me roar… have a godd day the both of yous!!!!!!!
I don’t like/use the N word and I will raise my child to not use the word. I think it’s offensive and stupid when black people use it in any way.
@BG
you called me a white nigga b4…i asked y and you gave no answer…now you said im lost…please explain.
WAIT WAIT WAIT:
No one has a right to call anybody anything negative that they wouldnt want their Momma’s called
@amber85:
If you take out “Black” and put in the word “Bush” or even “George Bush”, and take off those last 2 sentences you’d actually be telling an accurate truth.
Check it out:
Everyone can’t help but laugh at “BUSH” people. They are shrouded in negativity(corrupt goverment, overruling the constitution, scandals, economy, outsourcing jobs, dollar going down-gas going up) and revel in it. The only group of people that condones violence and misery(abu ghraib, iraq war). Where getting ahead is considered “selling out”(fattening each other’s pocket with such things like halliburton, while going in record debt to china).
Thats sounds about right, now we can agree on that!
If segegration laws were in use no one would be having this shameful argument. The word originated from abuse, negativity, and hatred. There is no use or room for this derragtory word. Abolish it from the dictionary, t.v., radio, and our minds. If we stop hearing it then maybe it will fade to a distant memory.
@Man, I just don’t care
It’s amazing how “some people” are soooo caught up in the English language, like it’s the supreme means of communication. Even though their are thousands of languages, ignorant greedy full of themselves people want to dismiss other means of communication as savage or un human, how ignorant is that??… So what if we make up our own words, we have the right to do it and give them meaning that you “other people” may not understand, (or may not be able to use) well maybe you “other people” should not have stolen people from the land of sun, and brought them to this other land that you STOLE.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NIGGA ALL WE WANT, YOU TSTOLE OUR LANGUAGE, OUR HISTORY AND BROUGHT US HEAR, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.,. DEAL WITH IT!!!! You have a choice to say it or not, just be ready for the REPERCUSSION if you say it to the wrong Nigga… REAL TALK.
@Koi Norelle
I don’t like/use the N word and I will raise my child to not use the word. I think it’s offensive and stupid when black people use it in any way.
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I agree 100%. I’m not going to say that I have never used the word before but as I got older that word has been banned from my vocabulary
@BG(Check me out!)
@Man, I just don’t care
It’s amazing how “some people” are soooo caught up in the English language, like it’s the supreme means of communication. Even though their are thousands of languages, ignorant greedy full of themselves people want to dismiss other means of communication as savage or un human, how ignorant is that??… So what if we make up our own words, we have the right to do it and give them meaning that you “other people” may not understand, (or may not be able to use) well maybe you “other people” should not have stolen people from the land of sun, and brought them to this other land that you STOLE.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NIGGA ALL WE WANT, YOU TSTOLE OUR LANGUAGE, OUR HISTORY AND BROUGHT US HEAR, YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.,. DEAL WITH IT!!!! You have a choice to say it or not, just be ready for the REPERCUSSION if you say it to the wrong Nigga… REAL TALK.
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WOW!!!! That was very POWERFUL!!!!!!
Ms BB come on back- you been in witness protection??? lol
@BRAIDED
WHERE ARE YOU MY FRIEND???
Hi Amber, M-Daddy
On the subject of the N-word, as much as it pains me to agree with Elisabeth, I think she makes a valid point. I don’t see how we, meaning African Americans, can remove the power from a word that carries such offense, degradation, and pain throughout our history. And I’m hard-pressed to understand how people can rationally say that the derivative “ni**a” is a term of endearment when I hear it most often used in the pejorative sense, i.e. that ni**a is trifling. Now the word peppers our daily speech, our music, movies, etc., and yet we’re still aghast when non-blacks integrate it into their lexicon.
On a broader scale, I think the language used among some (not all) of us has severely declined over the years. One day while riding home on the train, I overheard a conversation between two young brothers who were loudly discussing girls and they referred to them by no other word than “b**ch.” Their use of that ugly word was so rampant that I asked them to tone down their conversation, but, of course, they paid me no mind. The train was filled with passengers, and I was embarrassed by the blatant disrespect. I believe that, collectively, we should better monitor the self-images we propagate that may later come back to harm and label us.
On a totally different subject, has anyone here seen the HBO documentary, “Hard Times at Douglass High?” I saw it yesterday and I’m still disturbed. I highly recommend it.
@ Tara:
“If segegration laws were in use no one would be having this shameful argument. The word originated from abuse, negativity, and hatred. There is no use or room for this derragtory word. Abolish it from the dictionary, t.v., radio, and our minds. If we stop hearing it then maybe it will fade to a distant memory.”
Forgive me while I collapse into a fit of giggles. Even if we eliminate the word, the abuse, negativity, and hatred will keep right on truckin’. We all know that.
Should we call a rally, perform a little tapdance, and then ask our latest “black leader” to announce:
“Ok, white folks, you have a point. It is too damn confusing to continue using this word culturally. Nigga, unlike bitch, hoe, fag, or redneck, can’t be used by their intended targets to take the power from it. No siree. So we’ll hand it back over to the taboo. It can go back to being whispered under your breath, yelled from your speeding card in a road rage incident, during a police-administered beat-down, from the privacy of your home while you watch your black neighbors move in next door, and other under-cover situations. Yes, white America, you can have your fave little punchline word back for your exclusive use.”
“Anything else I can get ya, boss?”
Okay have we settled on anything here?
Tara: SO are you for segregation??? Do you think Amerikkka would have been better with it? or am I mis understanding you?
do you know that when segregation was in effect, black school funding was $15 per child vs white school funding being $35 per child? so is that fare????
Check out Brown vs. Brown–Board of education… google it…
Do you think Slavery and hate and oppression is gonna be a distant memory also? just like that huh?
@ Man, I just don’t care
Where do I begin? Let’s see…
1. Blacks are the only group of people that use derogatory remarks towards each other as terms of endearment. Bitch, Ho, Baby Momma, N#gga, etc.
2. Blacks are the only group of people who idolize and aspire to thug life over teachers, lawyers, doctors who are considered “corny”.
3. Blacks are the only group of people who shun and ridicule those who get an education, speak proper English and dress appropriately as “selling out” or trying to be “White”.
4. Black are the only group of people who blame their failures on others and NEVER take responsibility for themselves.
Therefore, keep insulting yourselves while Mexicans are slowly taking over and leaving you in the dust.
Now they’re laughing at you too.
Should we call a rally, perform a little tapdance, and then ask our latest “black leader” to announce:
“Ok, white folks, you have a point. It is too damn confusing to continue using this word culturally. Nigga, unlike bitch, hoe, fag, or redneck, can’t be used by their intended targets to take the power from it. No siree. So we’ll hand it back over to the taboo. It can go back to being whispered under your breath, yelled from your speeding card in a road rage incident, during a police-administered beat-down, from the privacy of your home while you watch your black neighbors move in next door, and other under-cover situations. Yes, white America, you can have your fave little punchline word back for your exclusive use.”
“Anything else I can get ya, boss?”
WORD UP! Octavia
They just can’t stand to see a black person stand tall.. it eats them up, They stay thinkin’: “you niggas should be happy we “saved” you from Africa, and saved you from your savage ways”… GET THAFUK OUTTA HERE!!!!
@ Everybody…
Please don’t get me started…
@BG
Your an america hater…go back to africa you piece of shit. We were trying to have a convo on the word nigga and your still obsessing over slavery and oppresion…please you should be thanking the white liberal democrat pieces of shit for getting you this far into society.
@SYDNEY…(WAVING MY ARM OFF) HEY MAMA!!!
@JUST SAYIN
HOW ARE YOU THIS AFTERNOON?
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SEE, BULL CRAP LIKE WHAT IM SEING ON THIS THREAD..SMDH. I BET SOME PEOPLE ARE GLAD THAT THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT BEHIND A COMPUTER SCREEN. I BET MONEY TO A HOT JAR OF PISS THEY WOULDNT SAY HALF THE CRAP THEY SAY ON BOSSIP, IF THEY HAD TO SAY IT DIRECTLY TO A PERSON.
@Yeaa im white
I respect your opinion but that is a horrible way of thinking.
@ Yeaa im white:
Quick question. When you see a group of black people laughing and smiling and using the word “nigga”, does it make your mouth water?
You sound like you are just DYING for the chance to say it in public without all hell breaking loose. Why do you care what we are saying amongst each other?
@BEAUTIFULLY HUMAN (sxyQblondie)
You are so right with that comment.
BEAUTIFULLY HUMAN (sxyQblondie)
Hey……….. I saw your new pic… Can you say boing, yoing, yoing…..
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I went to see my doctor the other day and she said I was so sexy that my blood smelled like cologne.
Go whoopi!
@Octavia
If you were 400 pounds and people called you the word fat ass on a daily basis, would you then start using the word to describe yourself? Hell no. So why continue to chime in to bad words that describe black people. We are the only ignorant race who beieves that this is turning the word into something positive. Jews, Italians, hispanic or Asian didn’t recreate some deragory terms that racism labeled them. We should feel the same. We should carry ourselves in a dignified manner, and refuse to indulge in this kind of hate speech any longer.
@ amber85
Your points are baseless, I bet you thought you had em too
Why is it that your kids choose to imitate what our race does
Our history was stolen yet we recreate ourselves better than Madonna
We make living an art form with our culture yet little Reginald in suburbia wears his hat backwards and says yo cause he saw it on tv
Your history was fabricated and formed on the achievements of our people
The word thug was created by Whites and so was the word Ghetto(Jewish community in early 1900’s)
Your people choose to use it again as a means to describe every brotha with a do rag on,
Give us lemons, we make lemonade
I try not to dislike Elisabeth, I really do. She is probably a great mom, wife, friend, sister and colleague HOWEVER- her politics freighten me because they are very closed and one note. Because of her tight politics, I find it hard to listen to anything she has to say wether it has merit of not. She had a good point…probably, but I just can’t seem to give her the mic when she wants to speak. Truth is, I feel like Whoopi and Sherry justifying why they can use the word gives the word power. So like Lizzy said, delete it from our vocabularies and move on.
@ amber:—> tick for tac
Where do I begin? Let’s see…
1. Blacks are the only group of people that use derogatory remarks towards each other as terms of endearment. Bitch, Ho, Baby Momma, N#gga, etc.
2. Blacks are the only group of people who idolize and aspire to thug life over teachers, lawyers, doctors who are considered “corny”.
3. Blacks are the only group of people who shun and ridicule those who get an education, speak proper English and dress appropriately as “selling out” or trying to be “White”.
4. Black are the only group of people who blame their failures on others and NEVER take responsibility for themselves.
Therefore, keep insulting yourselves while Mexicans are slowly taking over and leaving you in the dust.
Now they’re laughing at you too.
LOL I’m laughing at your ignorance…
1. White are the only race that rapes and murders and enslaves people based on the color of their skin
2. Whites are the only people that fight hard for independence from the Queen and her European ways, only to go steal land from people who help them when they arive
3. even though those whites had a war of independence, they go enslave others based on their skin rob them of their language, then say that those people that they stole don’t speak “THE QUEENS so called PROPER ENGLISH”
(hypocrytical)
4. Whitess are the only people that have sinned against humanity and refuse to repent or apologize for it
5. whites are the only people that change many different colors in their life time but want to label other races as colored (pink when born, pale white while living, blue when sick, green with envy of melanin, purple when you die, blue when your body lays cold from death, black when you return to the ground!!!
6. Whites are the only people that feed on greed, anger, evil, and hate, while raping the land.
7. whites are the only people banished to the caucus mountains where they went pale and blind and even in roman times fuked lil boys in the but and said it was culturally acceptable
8. Whites are the only race that HATE other races because the have color,yet whites run to the Tanning salon every day until they die of skin cancer and no melanin…
should I go on???? I got plenty more for your ignorant ass remark
Octavia
LMAO @:
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Should we call a rally, perform a little tapdance, and then ask our latest “black leader” to announce:
“Ok, white folks, you have a point. It is too damn confusing to continue using this word culturally. Nigga, unlike bitch, hoe, fag, or redneck, can’t be used by their intended targets to take the power from it. No siree. So we’ll hand it back over to the taboo. It can go back to being whispered under your breath, yelled from your speeding card in a road rage incident, during a police-administered beat-down, from the privacy of your home while you watch your black neighbors move in next door, and other under-cover situations. Yes, white America, you can have your fave little punchline word back for your exclusive use.”
“Anything else I can get ya, boss?”
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Let me sum it up…
You know how someone say, “I love you like my own”.
The optimal word is “LIKE”, unless you “ARE”, you don’t get the same rights.
@octavia
like i said in an earlier post…the only time i say the word nigga is to degrade a person…i dont call my white friends niggas out of a term of endearment cause to us (white people) it is the worst insult…no white person wants to be called a nigga..unless of course your a wigga and there just lost altogether. I dont care what you call each other…keep using it, me and my white friends laugh at you..i was just throwin my opinion out there cause last time i checked this was a blog where you can comment.
btw: That’s not a b or w thing, it’s just a fact!
@ Sydney
Whats good boo?? HAPPY FRIDAY!!!!!
@ JUST SAYIN (smile) THANK YOU MY FRIEND
@ tara
Please be mindful of the fact that “erasing” the N word from existence (abolish it from dictionaries, tv, radio, etc.)is the same thing that was done with our history, culture……essentially our greatness. Be careful of what you wish for…..you might get it.
I can’t even hear it I gotta wait til I get home
If that white girl won’t fuck me, she’s racist..If a black girl don’t like me she must like white dudes..That’s my take on the “N” word
@brooklyn stand up…
what part, my view on the word or my response to BG?
Bossip…ya’ll niggas is sloppy..put my gravi up
@ yeah I’m (a dumb ass cracker) White
First off I aint gotta thank no one for being here but GOD and my mom, I’m hear and I stand tall, Second How can I go back to Africa when I’ve never been you fool! Third, I am AMERICAN, I am your worst night mare, deal with it…. third of all it must pain you to live in such fear of a black planet, well guess what? lol
I’m not a slave. I know my history though unlike your dumb ass…
last but not least, piece of shit? lol you’re smelling yourself you fool, you are the only one sitting in your fukin toilet right now typing on bossip (your only window to the world) I’m good, I can say Nigga all I want, loud and proud, aint shit gonna happen to me, I can say honky or cracker too, I dare anyone to step up.. you on the other hand… you are the weak one that is soaking in your own ignorance.. LOL you’re a funny lil n!gger… yeah you’re a white n!gger… deal with it!
@Yeaa im white(Check me out!)
@octavia
like i said in an earlier post…the only time i say the word nigga is to degrade a person…i dont call my white friends niggas out of a term of endearment cause to us (white people) it is the worst insult…no white person wants to be called a nigga..unless of course your a wigga and there just lost altogether. I dont care what you call each other…keep using it, me and my white friends laugh at you..i was just throwin my opinion out there cause last time i checked this was a blog where you can comment.
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QUESTION:
Have you ever called a black person the “N” word while standing face to face to them??
@ Tara
“If you were 400 pounds and people called you the word fat ass on a daily basis, would you then start using the word to describe yourself? Hell no. So why continue to chime in to bad words that describe black people. We are the only ignorant race who beieves that this is turning the word into something positive. Jews, Italians, hispanic or Asian didn’t recreate some deragory terms that racism labeled them. We should feel the same. We should carry ourselves in a dignified manner, and refuse to indulge in this kind of hate speech any longer.”
1. Yes, plenty of overweight women choose to reframe negative terms, such as Monique translating “FAT” to “PHAT” (pretty, hot, and thick).
2. Other groups, like women and gay people, have also turned the joke around. Again, women (black and white) commonly refer to friends as “bitch”.
3. I’m sorry, can you explain to me one more time why we should just do what everyone else does? Is it not our differences that give us culture? If our ancestors thought like you, many of the creative things we’ve given society would not exist: like hip-hop culture, gospel music, soul food, because they would’ve been too bust trying to assimilate. We do our own thing. I’m proud of that.
4. If we eliminate the colloquial use of nigga, how do you think things will change? Just curious.
wouldn’t ya like to be a Nigga too????
lol
@ Negrodamus Believes(he witnessed a bank robbery last night)lol(Check me out!)
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….
A bank robbery… Give us the details. Did they cut you in? Get dat reward bra!
@Amber: Hmm, let’s see -
Cradle of civilization (Africa, you know the continent where your ancestors raped, pillaged, and spread disease thorughout a prosperous people)
Earliest record of the first woman (Lucy – again, found in Africa)
Most of history that accounted for man prior to Jesus Christ got its start – in Africa. And please don’t talk about the Greeks and Romans, they were not originators, just usurpers of what was already created.
Christopher Columbus, and other Europeans “discovered” the Americas. But tell me something – how can you discover something that was already populated by civilizations that had their own governments, religions, and thriving cultures.
The precious metals trade – Africa. As a matter of fact, the processing and working of precious metals originated in places like Africa and China, not Spain, Italy, or England.
Precious gems – not Europe, Italy, or other Europena countries. You guessed it – Africa (diamonds, some types of rubies and emeralds), Opals, from Australia (inhabited by indigenous people of color), precious stones from Central and South America.
I could go on, and you must know that your European ancestors only took, never gave back to the world. Your ancestors spread famine, Black Plague, small pox, and other diseases because they knew nothing of washing and encouraging proper hygeine. Europeans learned of dental care from the very same people they called “savages” because nothing was more beautiful than the smile of an African with ALL of his white clean teeth.
BTW – if you use a stoplight, an iron or ironing board, a refrigerator, or any of the other countless coveniences of today, it was due to Black men and women and their innate sense on ingenuity and resourcefulness. Stop with the lip plumping, ass fattening, and hair kinking.
Yes, we have a long way to go, but your characterization is only relevant to a small part of our population, and could apply to any group of isolated, under-educated Americans, not just Black people. If you would educate yourself, you might have something relevant to say.
Man I saw a bank robbery last night…Nigga was just going to the bank to check on that direct deposit tip to get some extra ones for the titty bar..
@ Octavia
Yea I’m White was the truest reaction to black people’s ignorance, tolerance and repetitive use of a term used to degrade us. She is the reason why there should be no tolerance or use for this degrogatory speech. White people are laughing at us. It is foolish to label yourself a word used to belittle black people.
@Rozza♥
Hello. Good comment as usual
@BG: We need to team up!
@Yeaa im white
Don’t get me wrong I’m not a racist, I love all people for being HUMAN, but when you act like a Cracker (a salty flaky person that crumbles under any pressure with many “hole” in them) then thats what I call you untill I see other wise…
@ BG(Check me out!)
Be a peppa, drink dr peppa…
@ Sydney
Hey sis! How are you??
@ Everyone
Please address Amber85 as Amber85…because I’m Amber and are thoughts are totally opposite on this topic!
@Just sayin
dawg I was by myself too and I pulled up on the curb, I had a feelin someone else was there with me, but I just figured it was the bank making noises ya know? It was one of those Atm’s thats in the lobby of the bank where you can go even when the bank is closed, you just gotta swipe a bank card for entrance…anyways..(i’ll continue in a sex)
Rozza♥
I’m all da way wit it!
Thanks, M-Daddy! How goes it today?
and our*
Hey, Beautifully Human (SxyQBlondie)! *waving*
Hey Brooklyn!
Happy Friday, M-Daddy!
@ BG
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam!
Sorry Amber – my post was meant for Amber85.
Yall better ead what Rozza♥ said @ 2:15!
REAL TALK!!!
@ Yeaa I’m white:
“like i said in an earlier post…the only time i say the word nigga is to degrade a person…”
I’m with M-Daddy. Have you ever said this to someone’s face? And to be quite honest with you, I don’t give a flying fuck what you are laughing about. You know the rules and you follow them. Say and do what the fuck you want. But you better make damn sure you are doing it from the safety of your home, your speeding car, or behind a loaded gun. Then I will continue not giving a damn and you can continue wasting your time worrying about what I am saying to my friends.
What’s up Sydney?
@amber85
Do you think your responses have specific examples? Do you think you responses are filled with false stereotypes? I will address them however.
“1. Blacks are the only group of people that use derogatory remarks towards each other as terms of endearment. Bitch, Ho, Baby Momma, N#gga, etc.”
Yet, the word “bitch” originally only meant female dog. Up until the Women’s movement and white males referred to their very own women in this manner. I could go on but I think neither of us feels it necessary.
“2. Blacks are the only group of people who idolize and aspire to thug life over teachers, lawyers, doctors who are considered “corny”.”
Yet, the very professions you named have the highest level of blacks and growing (specifically lawyer). Again I think we both agree that this statement is a stereotype, proven as such based on the statistical data.
“3. Blacks are the only group of people who shun and ridicule those who get an education, speak proper English and dress appropriately as “selling out” or trying to be “White”.”
I think the problem here is a lack of understanding for the term “selling out.” This was addressed to people who deny their culture and principles. It has been applied to people of various cultures, ex. Johnny Damon playing for the Yankees after stating he would play for the Red Sox. Please explain what you interpet “selling out” to mean.
“4. Black are the only group of people who blame their failures on others and NEVER take responsibility for themselves.”
Would you agree Blacks “took responsibility” for themselves during the Civil Rights Movement? During this movement it has been proven that White women benefitted the most from the changed policies, did they “take responsibility” for themselves? What about Hispanics that also benefitted? Or do you disagree?
I guess blacks “took responsibility” for more than themselves and continue to do so.
Looks like someone needed to agree to diagree
@ Tara:
“@ Octavia
Yea I’m White was the truest reaction to black people’s ignorance, tolerance and repetitive use of a term used to degrade us. She is the reason why there should be no tolerance or use for this degrogatory speech. White people are laughing at us. It is foolish to label yourself a word used to belittle black people”
No, hun. Yeaa I’m white is simply a racist little person with a computer. If it isnt’ our slang, it’d be our names, or the way we dance, or the way we wear our hair, or what we eat. FACE IT. A racist white person will never see you as equal. They cannot handle that. They (like Yeaa I’m white) need to feel superior. As many of them have no real accomplishments or talents, they fall back on their trusty white skin. As I just pointed out to her/him, that is their bag. I’m gonna do me. I can’t live my life trying to make white folks happy. At the end of the day, THEY are the ones wasting their energy hating me.
@ Yeaa I’m white:
anybody with a name like that..Is just looking to bust all over himself/herself…on a black blog! Who in the hell cares that u are white, or for that fact how u use what word! U are worthless
@Man I Just Don’t Care: Wonderful post. Very well-put!
Hey Sugar Walls! How’s it going?
@amber85
when you say blacks your dumb azz is generalizing, next time refer to one race and stop being broad okaY!!!
@BROOKLUN AND MDADDY
sup fam
“That word was used to enslave, kill, rape, sodimized, disenfranchised us in this country for 500 years”
Guns are and were used to do the same things, why havent guns been banned yet? Isnt there a saying guns dont kill people peolpe kill people?
So if thats the reasoning behind keeping something as dangerous like guns and weapons around why dont we aplie the same reasoning to the word nigga…”the word nigga doent hurt people, people hurt people”
I call my brother an ass, I call my boyfriend an monkey, I call my little niece mouse, I nicknamed my nephew albino on the count that his parents are brown and he came out redboned. So does that mean that you can? Because a say it in an endearing way my sister knows I dont mean it as being hurtfull, so you now can call my boyfriend a monkey because I do? So I think white people understand that they cant call my brother an ass just because I do, but they dont understand that they cant call him a nigga because I say that?
They are the people that brought that word into the world because they wanted to hurt us with it, so NO they cant use it! I can use it because I’m black and even if I wanted to use it as a way of insulting someone’, thats the bond that you have with a person just like I can use the word monkey as a term of endearment towards my boyfriend but i can also insult him with it! It depend on how you say it.
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Would it be ok if at a Jay Z cocert or any rap concert for white people in attendance to sing along with black people: JIGGA, MY MUTHA FVCKIN’ NIGGA!? Just askin’.
@from a nigga
“Because a say it in an endearing way my sister knows I dont mean it as being hurtfull, so you now can call my boyfriend a monkey because I do? So I think white people understand that they cant call my brother an ass just because I do, but they dont understand that they cant call him a nigga because I say that?”
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You are right. The problem is white’s selectively choose which cultures to respect and which not to. That is the bottom line and it can be proven.
@Marquis de Sade
No, it wouldn’t be ok.
@MARQUIS..HEY MOVIE MAN. WHATS SHAKIN?
@Syndey-
Have a good weekend, wherever you are!
@sxyQ: Your picture looks very nice.
@ROZZA
HEY THERE!! THANK YOU, IT TOOK A WHOLE DAY TO POP UP!
okay well if white people aren’t allowed to say N*gger then black people shouldn’t say CRACKER.
that word is fucking disguting. both words are disgusting. besides the fact that it is the lamest word ever for an insult, like am I a ritz or a wheat thin? a black person calling a white person a cracker is so fucking insulting to me because of the usage I’ve heard in songs and had black people say it to me before. Like does it make you feel good about yourself to call me a cracker? I don’t call you a N*gger. that word doesn’t come out of my mouth. But when the black girls hate on me they love to call me a cracker, for what?! I’m not racially insulting you, so what are you mad for?!
and yeah, from a white persons standpoint. I feel as though calling someone a nigga and using that term shouldn’t be used as a term of endearment. the longer people hear that word the more it’s going to continue on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
the jewish people in world war II had 6 million of there people killed and they turned right back around and changed their lives and many of them became rich and wealthy. why is my race constantly made to feel guilty about what happened, not every single person was involved in it. just like every single person isn’t racist. not every black person is racist, not every white person is racist, not every mexican is racist etc etc etc.
it has to do with how you are raised. if you have the mental capacity to understand the difference than most likely you will be respectful of other people and not put them down with racial slurs. if someone calls me a cracker I don’t go back at them and call them a n*gger. I’m just like really, wow, the race card? what are you mad for? yes I’m white. i have blonde hair and blue eyes. my grandparents are straight from holland, and I’m from the north. I didn’t have shit to do with slavery or oppression. This is why i would love to move out of america because if people don’t stop saying nigga or n*gger or cracker or white trash or spic or whatever you want to use to put someone down because of the color of their skin, nothing is ever going to change.
hate is deep seeded in the black community and yes it is completely understandable. NO I will never know what it feels like. For the first time in my LIFE I was made to feel uncomfortable about the color of my skin this year. I was racially profiled by a black cop because I was in the city. He asked me if I was aware of my surroundings, if I knew what went on in that part of town, why was I there. Well I have friends that live here that I hang out with. Yes I probably have a lot of information on drug dealers that you wish you had. Sorry about your luck buddy. Having a text sent to my phone with a picture of a cracker saying “Hey, white is alright” and then having some girls say to me stay the f*ck out of the city.” Like damn what are you mad for? What have I ever done to you?
I went to school in the south which i think the south and midwest should be blown up all together because the white people down there are fucking crazy and I feel bad for any minority that has to live down there. i hate the confederate flag, i hate the racist white people. i hate racist black people. i hate racist people.
i just don’t understand why black people feel like the white man still owes them. i had a girl in one of my classes admit that her family abuses the system and gets money from the government for free because her grandmother feels like she’s owed for what she’s gone through. abusing the system with section 8 housing and welfare is ridiculous.
there is plenty of scholarship money. it takes a very strong person to turn around and walk away from the hood life. i’ve seen my friends that are trying to get out get tormented by friends by hearing them say oh you’re too good for us now? selling crack on the corner will never be a good substantial income. people need to realize that your ticket out of any bad situation is your education. go to school everyday. do it for yourself. don’t try to milk any kind of system. if anything, milk the scholarship system. if you get good grades and apply for financial aid and scholarship, you can go to college. it’s really not that hard. having the attitude that you don’t care about school will not get you anywhere in life but a shitty rowhouse and welfare money. yeah okay get mad at me for saying it but it’s true. every urban area is a vicious cycle of angry mothers raising their children without fathers, having multiple kids by different men, not giving their kids the attention that they need, not asking to see their homework, not making sure they’re in school everyday. then girls at 14 and 15 are getting pregnant and having children. FOR WHAT?! what are you having kids for. get on birth control. having a child will not fix your problems. so many girls i know that live in the city have kids, more than one. and they don’t even have the money to take care of themselves. and then the cycle continutes.
Go to school. Care about yourself. Your friends will not be there with you forever. Your friends will not pay your bills. Values need to be instilled that education is number one. I have SO many guy friends that dropped out of high school and have felony charges and 18, 19 years old. If you go to school everyday, get an education, pass with A’s and B’s and you apply for scholarships and federal loans, you WILL go to college, get out of the hood, and start a new life that doesn’t involve crime on a daily basis. stop blaming white people for all of your problems, we’re really not that evil. it’s been about 40 years now. the laws have changed. you can vote. take action for yourself. get an education, get a real job. PROVE EVERYONE WRONG.
you think we [white people] like the president and like the government. give me a break. we’re struggling too right now. not everything is easy for us either. my family was immigrants. my family is half german and half dutch. my family came to america broke and had to start over and my grandparents didn’t have the right to vote. black people talk about not having the right to vote but many now don’t even exercise their right.
so go ahead, slander me and call me stupid but if you’re going to try and tell me that anything of what I said is wrong. you’re lying to yourself. instill values to your children that getting an education is your only way out. not sports or becoming a rap artist. you don’t have to sell drugs. work at mcdonalds or anywhere and work your way up. their are many poor white people. my ex boyfriends father had his dad die when he was 16 and he was left to help take care of his family. he put himself through college and now he is the president of finance at dell computers. my dad had to pay for college, he worked 60 hours a week and got his education because both of his parents died at a young age.
recognize the situation, get off of welfare, get a job. there are jobs out there. get an education, stop having kids when you’re not married or under the age of 18.
i didn’t even have sex until i was 17. i didn’t care what my friends were doing. no one could peer pressure me into anything.
education. values. strength.
prove people wrong.
i thought whoopie and sherrie did a wonderful job of explaining the word nigga , maybe for the new generation it’s no big deal but for my generation some things we say and do with the fam(my niggaz) that we just don’t take to the street to allow whites to be able abuse it like they have in the past and the way they use it at there dinner tables. and thats there business as long as they keep it at their table and don’t try to bring it to the streets of 2008 . these 2 black women have the white folks attention let them teach and just maybe white folks will learn. as far as we (niggaz) ar concerned we need always be teaching (starting in our own kitchen table with our own youth)respect, morals,pride, and most importantly self love.
peace
@BG
“Ya see, Black people don’t pass judgement based on color, Most White people do. (it’s just a fact,but not all white people do)”
THAT IS THE STUPIDEST THING I HAVE EVER READ IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. BLACK WOMEN HATE ON WHITE WOMEN ALL THE TIME FOR TAKING THEIR “MEN.”
IN HIGHSCHOOL THE BLACK KIDS WERE SO MEAN TO THE WHITE KIDS AND JEALOUS OF THE LIVES THAT WE LIVED AND HOW OUR PARENTS RAISED US BECAUSE WE LIVED IN NICE HOUSES AND LIVED DECENT LIVES…LIKE THAT IS OUR FAULT. IT CREATED SO MUCH HATE FROM THE WHITE KIDS TO BLACK KIDS BECAUSE WE’RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO YOU WE DIDNT’ DO SHIT TO YOU WE’RE THE SAEM AGE AS YOU WE DIDN’T TAKE ANYTHING FROM YOU. I’M SORRY THAT MY MOM BUSTED HER @$$ AND GOT AN ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIP AND WENT TO COLLEGE AND SAVED MONEY AND WAITED UNTIL SHE WAS 34 TO HAVE ME.
BLACK PEOPLE ARE JUST AS RACIST AS WHITE PEOPLE. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. BLACK GIRLS WERE ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RUDE TO THE WHITE GIRLS AT SCHOOL, YELLING AT THEM , THINKING THEY COULD INTIMIDATE US, BUTTING IN FRONT OF US IN LUNCHLINE, YELLING LOUD ALL THE TIME, PUSHING US IN THE HALLWAYS, AND THEN SAYING “WHAT WHITE GIRL”, WE DON’T REFER TO BLACK PEOPLE AS BLACK PEOPLE WHEN WE’RE TELLING A STORY, LIKE WE DON’T SAY “OH THAT BLACK GIRL OR BLACK GUY” LIKE WHEN MOST BLACK PEOPLE SAY THAT “WHITE GIRL” LIKE WHAT DOES IT MATTER THAT THAT PERSON IS WHITE, YOU’RE TELLING A STORY.
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YOU DON’T NEED TO HUSTLE, YOU’RE GIVEN AN EDUCATION. OR GO BACK TO AFRICA AND BE POOR. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY KIDS WOULD LOVE TO BE IN AMERICA WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE THERE. GO TO SCHOOL AND STOP SELLING DRUGS. GET OVER IT, MAYBE YOUR DAD’S NOT IN YOUR LIFE AND YOUR MOMS GOT MAJOR ISSUES. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE, YOU CAN STILL GO TO SCHOOL EVERYDAY. I HAVE HAD ISSUES GROWING UP IN MY FAMILY. EVERYONE HAS ISSUES. JUST BECAUSE YOU SEE A WHITE KID WITH MONEY DOESN’T MEAN EVERYHTING AT HOME IS OKAY. HOW DO YOU KNOW THEIR PARENTS AREN’T DRUG ADDICTS OR ALCOHOLICS. I HAVE NEVER MET ONE PERSON IN MY LIFE THAT HASN’T GONE THROUGH SOME TYPE OF ISSUE. EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT IS ALIVE STRUGGLES.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY RACES/COUNTRIES WENT THROUGH ISSUES. BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE. OPEN UP YOUR EYES. IF YOU LEARNED MORE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN THE WORLD YOU WOULD REALIZE THAT THEIR IS HATE IN EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY. THEIR HAVE BEEN SLAVES FOR A LONG LONG TIME. NO OTHER RACE OF PEOPLE DEGRADES THEMSELVES BY CALLING EACH OTHER THE TERM THAT WAS USED TO DEGRADE THEM AND TURN INTO A TERM OF ENDEARMENT.
SERIOUSLY.
EDUCATION.
@yea im white
dude ur comment is longer than the book of psalms!!! chill out dude it is not that serious!!!
@mdaddy and brooklyn
guess u guys have gone!!! have a good weekend
@YEAH IM WHITE
I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ON “SOME” POINTS. YET DISAGREE ON OTHERS. I DO BELIEVE THAT A STOP NEEDS TO BE PUT TO ALL “RACE” NAME CALLING. WHETHER IT BE TOWARD ANOTHER RACE, OR THAT OF YOUR OWN. I WILL ADMMIT THAT I HAVE SEEN BLACK PEOPLE ATTEMPT TO “INTIMIDATE” WHITE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR COLOR. YET, I HAVE ALSO SEEN WHITE PEOPLE ATTEMPT TO ISOLATE A BLACK PERSON BECAUSE OF THEIR SO CALLED LOW STATUS IN LIFE. OR, THE FACT THAT THEY STEREOTYPE “BLACK” PEOPLE TO BE A TYPE OF WAY. NOW IM NOT SAYING THAT ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT. BUT I’VE SEEN SOME DO IT. AND THAT THING ABOUT “BLACK PEOPLE REFFERING TO WHITE PEOPLE AS..THAT WHITE GIRL, OR WHITE MAN, BOY”, YES, WHITE PEOPLE DO IT TOO. I’VE EVEN HEARD SOME OF THEM MAKE THE STATEMENT’S “HANDSOME BLACK BOY” OR “PRETTY LITTLE BLACK LADY/GIRL” AS IF TO THROW IT UP AS, “I CANT BELIEVE SHE’S PRETTY/HE’S GOODLOOKING AND THEYRE BLACK. YES, THERE ARE BLACK WOMEN WHO GROW “AGGITATED” AT THE IDEA OF A BLACK MAN DATING A WHITE WOMAN. ME PERSONALLY, THE ONLY, I REPEAT, ONLY PROBLEM I EVER HAD WITH IT WAS WHEN THE MAN WOULD “ONLY” DATE WHITE WOMEN. AND WHEN THAT BLACK MAN LOOKS YOU (A BLACK WOMAN) IN THE FACE AND TELLS YOU THAT HE’S DATING WHITE WOMEN, BECAUSE BLACK WOMEN HAVE TO MUCH ATTITUDE. AND SO AND SO, HIS CURRENT WHITE GIRLFRIEND, LETS HIM DO WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CAN OFTEN BE HEARD OUT OF THE MOUTHS OF BLACK MEN WHO CHOOSE TO “ONLY” DATE WHITE WOMEN. NOW FOR THE ONES WHO DATE ANY COLOR, AND DONT JUST RESTRICT THEMSELVES TO ONE RACE (THAT ISNT THEIR OWN) LOVE IS LOVE, ATTRACTION IS ATTRACTION. I PERSONALLY WILL NOT CONVICT YOU, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS INSIDE OF THE PERSON, AND NOT THE SO CALLED BENEFIT OF THEM NOT BEING BLACK BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF WHAT CREATED YOU. I WILL AGREE WITH YOU THAT YES, RACISM EXISTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TRACK. AND I’VE SEEN IT ON BOTH SIDES.
@YEAAH I’M WHITE
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“okay well if white people aren’t allowed to say N*gger then black people shouldn’t say CRACKER.”
1 -I agree and I think most blacks wouldn’t have a problem with this.
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“I didn’t have shit to do with slavery or oppression”
2 -I think of lot of whites have this sentiment. Blacks in generally aren’t accusing present day whites of having anything to do with it. The problem is that most whites refuse to acknowledge the current racism and institutional method of oppresion. Or do you disagree?_____________________________________________________
“i just don’t understand why black people feel like the white man still owes them.”
3 -Is it your posistion that once slaver was over whites or the country owed blacks nothing? It should have just been forgotten about? In your opinion if a thief is caught in the act with the stolen goods, do you think the goods should be returned to the owner? Do you think the thiefs family should benefit from this thievery?
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“admit that her family abuses the system and gets money from the government for free because her grandmother feels like she’s owed for what she’s gone through. abusing the system with section 8 housing and welfare is ridiculous.”
4 -is it your posistion that “blacks” abuse the system? If so, do any other cultures abuse any other systems to their benefit?
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“every urban area is a vicious cycle of angry mothers raising their children without fathers, having multiple kids by different men, not giving their kids the attention that they need, not asking to see their homework, not making sure they’re in school everyday.”
5 – Do you acknowledge “cycles” in any other cultures/races? Why do you think this particular cycle began?
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“my family came to america broke and had to start over and my grandparents didn’t have the right to vote. black people talk about not having the right to vote but many now don’t even exercise their right.
6 -Is it your conclusion that your “German” parents had similar or worse conditions than blacks? Are there any reasons that you think some blacks don’t vote?
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@Yeah I’m White: Waiting until you are 17 to have sex is not anything to brag about. And if I’m not mistaken, you need to turn some of these disparaging remarks over to some of your “people” in Massachussetts where a whole segment of high school girls all decided it would be cute to get pregnant. All 17 of them were white, and from the same school district, I believe. Wasn’t birth control available to these young women? They are not from the most affluent areas, so I am sure that welfare is in the foreseeable future for some of them. Can you say WIC?
Preach to Jamie Lynn Spears, Lindsay Lohan, and other “celebrities” who glorify an immoral and crazy lifestyle. Man – it is pretty twisted that the more money you guys make, the quicker you are to throw morals to the wind.
Before you try to have a scathing commentary on other races and ethnic groups, look at your own group’s depraved reality, and realize that each group has a long way to go.
“YOU DON’T NEED TO HUSTLE, YOU’RE GIVEN AN EDUCATION. OR GO BACK TO AFRICA AND BE POOR.” This is the beginning of a paragraph you wrote that was just reeking of stereotypes and bigotry, although you clearly say you hated racist people. How can anyone “go back” to someplace where they never were? You can choose to emigrate to there from here, but most will not. How absurd would it be to tell you to go back to Europe if you don’t like it here? Pretty silly, eh?
And finally, to say we don’t “need to hustle?” Are you referring to selling drugs, or pimping, or any one of the stereotypical hustle “careers” you have in mind? Your statement sounds like someone who crosses the street or holds their bag a lot tighter when they see a Black man walking down the street, and then say later how you know a lot of “good Black people”. And that you even had one over for dinner once. Get a grip, and why don’t YOU try to get some of that education you are trying to promote.
Elizabeth just does not understand the meaning of that word. And she should have kept her mouth shut while Whoopi was trying to school her. I think she started to cry because she had realized she had crossed a line and needed to show some type of emotion to make her inferior so other wouldn’t label her another oblivious white women believing racism isnt happening in America.
“okay well if white people aren’t allowed to say N*gger then black people shouldn’t say CRACKER.”
1 -I agree and I think most blacks wouldn’t have a problem with this.
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“I didn’t have shit to do with slavery or oppression”
2 -I think of lot of whites have this sentiment. Blacks in generally aren’t accusing present day whites of having anything to do with it. The problem is that most whites refuse to acknowledge the current racism and institutional method of oppresion. Or do you disagree?
White people acknowledge racism everyday when we feel inferior to black people. yes white people are scared of black people. my friends get scared everytime they drive into the city. I am not scared when I go in town because I’m used to being there and I know black people aren’t scary monsters. When you say acknowledge what happened–like what are we supposed to talk about it everyday? are we supposed to continue to apologize for it for the rest of our existence? unless both races come to term and say that it was f*cked up and wrong, it will never ever change. Some white people are just racist and will stay that way, some black people are racist upon their own race, some white people are racist upon their own race [europe world war II, but people never think of it like that. those were a bunch of white people hating on white people]. some black people are racist upon whites, some mexicans are racist upon whites, the list goes on. it starts at home with how you raise your children, if you set an example for your child that some people will be mean to you for how you look “sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me” and teach you to love yourself for who you are but treat everyone equally despite how they may treat you [with racist comments] rather than reacting. then who looks like the asshole? they do. not you.
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“i just don’t understand why black people feel like the white man still owes them.”
3 -I think that once slavery was abolished in the United States of America, and the NORTH FREED THE SOUTH. Since the entire country WAS NOT participating in this, it was a very slow process. But then if you look at the time period, we weren’t extremely progressive. But the north saw something was not right, and changed it. No I don’t think it should have just been forgotten about I think that the African Kings that sold the slaves should have been properly executed. The problem is is that in the south the way white people are raised is so crazy, and not all of them, but the bigotry that they feel over black people still exists due to the ignorance of their family and the “chip” that is STILL on their shoulder from the confederacy being taken from them. Equal rights were eventually completely given to blacks. Yes, maybe it did take too long, but it happened.
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“admit that her family abuses the system and gets money from the government for free because her grandmother feels like she’s owed for what she’s gone through. abusing the system with section 8 housing and welfare is ridiculous.”
4 -Pardon my mistake, she was cuban/black. but yes she was black and did say that she has heard other black people say this. does this represent the whole race. No.
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“every urban area is a vicious cycle of angry mothers raising their children without fathers, having multiple kids by different men, not giving their kids the attention that they need, not asking to see their homework, not making sure they’re in school everyday.”
5 – First of all I didn’t say any one race when I said the urban area, their are many different races in urban areas. Yes I understand how this all happened and I don’t need to write it so every ignorant person knows. but as conor oberst said it in one of his songs
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When the president talks to God
I wonder which one plays the better cop
We should find some jobs. the ghetto’s broke
No, they’re lazy, George, I say we don’t
Just give ‘em more liquor stores and dirty coke
That’s what God recommends”
That’s obviously cynical and sarcastic and a punch at bush and his attitude towards the urban areas. I WANT TO FIND WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE, NOT KNOCK THEM DOWN. GET THE DRUGS OUT, GET BETTER PROGRAMS FOR THESE CHILDREN!
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“my family came to america broke and had to start over and my grandparents didn’t have the right to vote. black people talk about not having the right to vote but many now don’t even exercise their right.
6 -My german relatives were poked fun at and called nazis. that is hard. the nazis killed all together 12 million people. that is disgusting. but it doesn’t mean every german was apart of it…just like not every white person in america was apart of slavery or supported it. because not every person in germany had blonde hair and blue eyes like hitler described as the perfect being…if you look at the statistics for minorities voting it is lower. To compare one person and say who has had it harder is unfair because like i said, each person has gone through rough times.
I love black people. I hate racist mother f*ckers. Whether your white or black or whatever color. If you’re racist, you’re a piece of shit to me. When my friends say n*gger I yell at them immediately. That word is not to be used. I have friends say “a n*gger could be white or black.” Call them an asshole, that word does NOT need to be used.
The comment about go back to Africa was a sarcastic comment BUT I said it because people do not realize the opportunities that are put in front of them in this country. People have come to this country with nothing but the clothes on their body and have made good lives for themselves. If mexicans can cross the border illegally and work over 40 hours a week our own citizens can find jobs.
@yea im white
YOU DON’T NEED TO HUSTLE, YOU’RE GIVEN AN EDUCATION. OR GO BACK TO AFRICA AND BE POOR.
b&tch stop sterotyping, my dad is african and a billionaire, do not let the media fool u, like they nearly fooled me about u guys also!!!keep AFRICA outta ur mouth,,, if u want to talk trash abot african american be my f&cking guest but keep AFRICA outta ur f*cking mouth!! real talk
about typo
Whoopi & Sherri don’t make sense on this one.
Martin Luther King would probably not agree with them on this one either.
@ROZZA:
First of all sweetheart, yes to me waiting until I was 17 and a senior in highschool to have sex for the first time with the first love in my life is commendable. compared to having sex when you’re 13 years old. second of all sweetie, I never used the word of “my people.” That’s you attacking me right there. As far as those girls go in Massachusetts’s, those girls are stupid and ignorant. just like everyone else who has a kid under 18. sorry, my opinion, i’m entitled to it.
You’re obviously mad. That’s okay. Spears never asked people to talk about her pregnancy. She is a human being. Lindsay Lohan never asked for her downfall in addiction to be documented on camera, but she is an actress and the paparazzi followed her. Lohan is an adult, she didn’t glamorize anything, she was being who she was, a drug addict, and the cameras portrayed her however they wanted to.
There are a lot of poor white people in america. there are a lot of poor people in america. period.
“YOU DON’T NEED TO HUSTLE, YOU’RE GIVEN AN EDUCATION. OR GO BACK TO AFRICA AND BE POOR.” This is the beginning of a paragraph you wrote that was just reeking of stereotypes and bigotry, although you clearly say you hated racist people. How can anyone “go back” to someplace where they never were? You can choose to emigrate to there from here, but most will not. How absurd would it be to tell you to go back to Europe if you don’t like it here? Pretty silly, eh?
Sarcastic comment, not serious. My point was about education and that people take education for granted here in america. we are one of the poorest educated countries in america. my dad tells me to leave america all the time since i don’t like it. lol. the point of my comment was for people to seriously think about what their lives could be. i want to devote 2 years in the peace corps in africa. Africa is a severely tragic and depressing place. I have friends that say they don’t care about Africa because they have to worry aobut themselves, which is true. But I don’t think anyone in America really knows what it’s like to have it horribly bad. If you walk up to a church or a person, someone will help you. America is not so cold and dark like everyone makes it seem. The point of my comment is that people need to seriously think about where else they could be in the world and how much worse it could seriously be. I kind of regret saying that it was more out of anger and it was worded wrong.
And finally, I have 16 year old friends that have illegal guns and are pumping crack in the streets of wilmington, delaware. I have seen it first hand. I have had a gun pulled at my head. I have stood outside on the street and been the only white person there. because i am not scared. black people are not evil. they only look differently than white people. i have a lot of friends that sell drugs and didn’t finish high school and are stuck in the hood. because that lifestyle sucks you in, the money comes extremely quick and it is a high risk lifestyle. I have a friend who had six friends under the age of 23 that were shot and killed in the past year. I don’t hold my bag a lot tighter when I see a black person, that was stupid of you to say. I predominantly date black guys. You think I’m scared of black people? FOR WHAT, THEY’RE PEOPLE!!!!! Do I walk alone anywhere at night time? No because I am a female and crime rates in wilmington, de are pretty high and i’m a pretty small female. Yes my guy friends would rather hustle than be in school and spend their days in the streets and catch a charge, do some time, come back out, be kicked out of school, and stay on the streets. so why don’t you get a grip on what i know or what i’ve seen, because I’ve seen a lot.
@the real dre(her name is tamea)wowww
ROFL
AFRICA IS THE MOST CORRUPT CONTINENT IN THIS WORLD. IT IS SAD AND TRAGIC. AND I WISH I COULD DO ANYTHING TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. MY COMMENT WAS SARCASTIC BECAUSE PEOPLE HERE IN AMERICA DO NOT SEE WHAT OPPORTUNITIES THEY HAVE HERE IN AMERICA. AFRICA IS CORRUPT AND FULL OF BIGOTRY AND IF YOU THINK I AM WRONG FOR THAT WHY DON’T YOU GO TELL MY TEACHERS WHO GAVE ME MY MINOR IN AFRICAN STUDIES AT THE UNIVERSITY I WENT TO.
what’s up with black people and not tipping
@SNIPER…
AGREED.
Whoopi & Sherri don’t make sense on this one.
Martin Luther King would probably not agree with them on this one either.
@yea im white
u might be right about corruption, but there is corruption everywere we just openly showed out our own cause we basically don’t give a f&ck. i have been to germany before and trust me they bribe undercoverly which i have seen with my own eyes!!!
even here in america corruption is taken place right now politically so stop with all this negativity and get ur mind right!!!
I thought that these two women of color were black puppets that did whatever they were told to do but now I see they’re NOT! Proud to be black and I love the “N” word!
for once (and the only time) im going to agree with eh on this one…nobody should be using this word. i can’t understand the “taking back” of the word when it was never our word in the first place. this word entails so much hatred and ignorance…all the lychings, beatings, rapes, murders, and selling off of family members. you could never make this word anything positive because it isn’t positive. i could spary chanel no 5 on a piece of shit, and guess what? it’s still a piece of shit. it’s funny (not haha) that we are the only ones that consistenly degrade each other…do you hear whites saying to each other…”hey honky…how’s the family?” do asians say “hey my chink…what’s up?”
Also EH is a hypocritical idiot when she told whoopi that she wouldn’t be apprehensive if she was walking down the street and she saw six black men standing on the corner….im a black woman and i would cross the street, but not because they are black…but because they are men….see i got issues too lol
I think that this is always a difficult conversation. I agree with Whoopi in what she said about the difference in the use for white people and black people. I use the word to my closest friends and family. I think that Elizabeth making an issue about explaining to her daughter about the word was stupid. Think of how many black parents had to explain to their children why you’re not treated fairly or why you’re not wanted in certain areas. Think of how many black parents had to explain to their young children about racism. It’s one thing to define a word to a child. It’s another to have to rebuild your child when their friends parents don’t want you over their house because of how you look. I hope that Elizabeth is able to really think about the things Whoopi said and let it sink in.
Africa is corrupt?!!! (I know I’m late) first of all let it be known Africa was just fine before the white man came in and dipped his toe in our sea. They removed the africans from their land brought them to this country to do manual labor (which the white man couldn’t do because the sun was harsh on his mutated skin) and took some of them and put them back where they found them expecting them to go back to the way they were. Obviosly slavery was to much of a psychological disturbance to the black man, in which they started to turn on one another.
Bet they didn’t teach you that in African studies “Yea I’m White”! I can not believe you brought your book reading ass on here trying to educate on something you don’t no nothing about minor or not..bugging
white peopls can kiss my black as^!
white people get mad when you say they are racist and they started racism, never met one that wasnt met some that hid it very well.
HONEY ITS BEST TO NOT EVEN INDULGE IN THIS DEBATE BECAUSE THESE RACIST WHITES ARE ON HERE TO MAKE YOU MAD THEY NO THEY SHOULDNT BE SAYING THE WORD ITS NOT THE WORD ANYWAY ITS THE CONTENT OF IT, I DONT GET INTO THIS DISCUSSION SO I AM OFF THIS THREAD BEFORE I LOSE MY COOL.
Whoopi said it best.
YES, Black people can use it BUT YOU CANNOT!!!
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wow. i cant believe some people would actually say that. us blacks are so contradictory when it comes to this situation. MLK fought for equality for all people, yet some people think its ok for only blacks to use the word.
let me ask a question: if you had a conversation with MLK, Colin Powell, Barak Obama, etc. would you refer to them as (or would they call you) “my nigga”?
How “Black” do you have to be to use the word? Full Black? Half Black? 1/4 Black? 1/8 Black? 1/16 Black? Seriously? Are ya’ll kidding me with this shit? Day-um…I’m disappointed.
@ cutie pie
Africa is corrupt?!!! (I know I’m late) first of all let it be known Africa was just fine before the white man came in and dipped his toe in our sea. They removed the africans from their land brought them to this country to do manual labor..
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one thing a lot of people dont say is a lot of the african tribes were rivals in africa, and some tribes sold the other tribes to the white man. look at whats going on today in Zimbabwe where they are all against each other even though they are all poor and in the same situation.
on a different note, blacks (its not as easy in africa, obviously) as a whole need to come together in a more positive way and start growing and not have this ugly, ignorant word draw a line in our culture and society.
Also, I love all the folks on this blog who say things like “White Bitch”, or “White Devil”, or anything with the pre-cursor “White,” and then try to say they aren’t racist. Again…Day-um! I’m trying to lift myself up and so many are being contradictory. You better wake up. Hypocrisy is NOT going to get you into Heaven.
Barack***
sorry, i got heated and did a huge typo!
@K-ten
I agree! Well said. Now, let’s talk about Liberia…
@Jo Jo
Ah, but that’s too much for some of these people in here to handle!
Also, (before I leave this “Complicated Discussion” that shouldn’t be) how do us blacks expect to get further in life and be understood if some of us defend this this OBVIOUS contradiction?
It’s so funny how “white people started racism”.. rotflmao… wow, seriously, people think what they want to think… it doesn’t matter what history says.. @ yeah i’m white..
girl, first of all, i can see where you are coming from.. and girl, u are doing a good job at proving your point.. but, i’m sorry to say, you got to pick and chose your battles, and you are on a black gossip website.. i think that you are handaling yourself well, and getting your point across, but tomorrow there will be another post on here, about racism, and it starts all over.
i’m scared of what the future is going to bring when my biracial child grows up. hopefully at his time, it won’t be like this. racism is something that will NEVER go away, especially with racist ass people like half of you on this website. racism is not something that’s natural. it is taught and learned.. you can put 1 child from every race together, and i can assure you that they will all play with eachother.. they don’t know shit about who comes from where, who’s rich, whos poor, whos black and whos white. for my child, i will teach him about RESPECT, and teach him about our history.. so that he can respect what happened to ALL people who was victom of slavery, or racial disscrimination..
that’s all you got to do, and hell that’s a start. i’m spanish, my man is black, and my son is black, i’m sorry but i love a strong black man. i’ve dated men of all differant colors, cultures, but a black man is what i prefer. all my friends are black.. i love my girls. and for them, they wouldn’t mind me saying the N word.. but, i don’t.. it’s just out of respect… they don’t say spic or beaner, or cracker for me.. i was at the pool the other day, and this white girl, i mean WHITE/CACAUSION(sp), was throwing the N word left and right, i guess she felt she good being that her man was black… now, i’m NOT black, but i put her white ass in her place, and told her that that shit offened ME and i would appreciate it if she wouldn’t say it.. not mentioning that my 3 year old son (and he’s a sponge!!) was sitting right there, and that’s not something i want him to pick up on..
it’s just your perception of that word.. everyone have a blessed weekend, and will see ya’ll Monday morning
PEACE..
oh and PLEASE if you are going to comment back on my grammer you are WASTING YOUR TIME!!
i know i misspelled a lot of shit, but who cares!!
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Let me break it down for all of you and hit upside the head with some knowledge. Some things in this horrible world can’t be changed. As long as racism exists, the “N” Word will exist. You can not change something white people started centuries ago. Like Cane and Able, like Israel and Palestine, England and Belfast, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, Aids, global warming, greed, Catholic Priests raping boys, Catholic church not allowing it’s followers to practice birth control and wear condoms to stop the spread of AIDs and other social diseases, incest, corruption, the unspoken class system, ghettos, police, court, employment and housing injustices towards black people, black people doubting themselves, black people being experimented on with out them knowing it, the current state of rap music, Mistral Reality Shows starring black people, all reality shows, the people who murked Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Biggie and Tupac, 200+ Liquor stores in Compton, Katrina, creating the word “hispanic”, corporate take overs of radio, then creating bad radio, Fox News, Politicians who say they hate gays yet practice homosexuality in secret, Politicians only appearance in the black communities and black churches before and during an election year, every election year, black people fall for this election move, Black on Black racism, Black Republicans, a country run with no separation of church and state, George W. Bush and company raping this country then leaving with mad money in the bank, Laura Bush for murdering a teen and getting away with it, Dick Cheney shooting someone and getting away with it, creating a name and housing programs for a group of losers called “Subprimes”, Sean Bell and others being shot 50 times or more by corrupt and racist New York cops, corrupt cops killing a black man in police custody, etc., etc. There’s more but time doesn’t permit. So with these factors happening everyday, I want to scream the “N-Word” and “f” Elisabeth Hasselbeck. She lives in an alternative reality that’s not real!
You know what, today’s average white person will never understand why the word n*gger is inappropriate to call a black person because we as a people have made it seem like its acceptable and benign and OK. I believe we as a people need to have self-respect in order for others to respect us. I don’t care what anybody says or how fashionable it seems to be. Don’t refer to me as a n*gger. We need to carry ourselves with dignity because too many black people in the past have suffered and lost their lives behind some foolishness for us to start trivializing the way we are seen and perceived by other cultures. No matter how easy it may seem to just act like we are no longer offended by the use of the word n*gger, it still stings when we are referred to as this because we believe that times should be different.
Pauline, if you’re for real in grad school you should know better than to start a sentence with But- and 25 pages ain’t sh*t.
Anyone who uses the n-word has the blood of my great grandma on his or her hands. We are so cocky. We aren’t even that far removed from the back of the bus and we are using a word that Black people fought and died over. Oh what ungrateful and disrespectful people we are. Whoppi and Sheri are ignorant. I don’t even like Elizabeth and she was 100% right. But Sheri is a known idiot. And Whoppi dated Ted Danson and he went to a party in Black face and she defended it. So.
Here is a list of words for those of us who aren’t smart enough; creative enough or that doesn’t respect our ancestors enough to think of new words to use besides the n-word-
brother, dude, sister, chick, homie, homeboy, homegirl, friend, the persons actual name, hey you.
I hope everybody who uses and defends that word is ashamed of himself or herself. Have you ever been sprayed with a water hose? Not been able to vote? Saw your brother hanging from a tree? No. Well guess what? You don’t have the RIGHT to decide what that word means. Those who fought for us and against that word do. Sorry guess you will have to find another word.
i think the n word when used by black people is an expression of internalized hate, low self-esteem as a community, lack of pride and lack of knowdledge about your heritage.
blacks who use the n word talk about self-empowerment and taking the word back from whites. but at the end of the day, it’s self-hatred. it’s so sad.
I am a black Latina from the Dominican Republic. so, no i am not African-American. therefore, I have a different point of view about the n word. bottomline, though, blacks needs to stop disrespecting their ancestors and heritage by using this word.
from the outside, i can tell you all look very ignorant. yet, another thing i will never understand about African-Americans.
Why is this an issue all of sudden for the media and white folks to bring out their pointing sticks….OH I know why, because now the nigga will be eating beside. Not working beside. NOt driving beside you, but sitting in the whitehouse.
Bunch a bullshit!
i know i said i was done, but one thing kinda bothered me..
claroliza, i see where you’re coming from, but your last two sentences im finding questionable. im one of many African-Americans that opposes the n-word, and the fact that you said that you think we ALL look ignorant kinda irks me because its not ALL of us. my parents, my whole family actually does not like or use the n-word. i dont conversate with other blacks that use the word.
i know its a contradiction on us as a whole, and its also something i dont like about us African-Americans either, but its not all of us, most of us, some of us, i dont know exactly but the way you are talking makes it seem like we all say and use the n-word.
which does bring up an issue. when blacks say that we can use the word and no one else, i feel thats putting me in a category that i dont want to be in. it looks bad on us as a whole and people of other races like claroliza look on us with disgust (or confusion i should say) when they dont have to.
im done now. this shouldnt even be an issue if it wasnt for us forgetting where we came from and why we’re here today.
I agree with Elizabeth. You guys may say that she can’t call us that but why can we call ourselves that? Can you say double standard? The word has a negative connotation that we all know about. Just because black people are calling other blacks that does not take away the meaning. I don’t understand how we have taken such a despicable, condescending, racist word and turned it into a term of endearment. Disgraceful. Black people, we are better than this. No matter how any of you may try to say that Whoopi is right and that black people can use it, the word is still wrong. It’s sad to see that we are calling ourselves this and trying to justify it by saying that “it’s alright because we’re black”. Elizabeth does not have to be black to understand that that word is disgraceful. How does it make us look if a white person knows that we are wrong in justifying this word yet we’re writing her off because she isn’t black, so therefore she MUST not understand????
Elizabitch is so fake… wdf was the bitch crying like the word effects her for? And Whoopi and ole girl arent sell outs, black people can be oppionated on that issue.
Elizabeth is our SISTAH! go on SISTAH…with yo conservative A$$!!! hehe…
It’s not a good word to say. I really try not to say it, but the very few times I’ve used it as an adult was as an insult to people acting very ignorant…and as of today I won’t even use it for that purpose. I also wouldn’t call any of my friends bitches or whores because those are just classless words. When I think of a “Bitch” I think of someone with a “bad” attitude and that’s someone I don’t care to be around. When I think of a “whore” a person with low self-esteem who’s incapable of making wise sexual choices…someone I also wouldn’t want to hang around until I’m stronger to give them good advice so they can get off those downward spirals.
I’ve read a lot of good post and plenty of “sad” ones. All I can say is I do what “I” can to make a difference and that’s showing love to every race and trying hard not to disrespect anyone especailly my race.
BTW according to the Bible weren’t the Hebrews the first slaves owned by the Egyptians in Africa. It would be really wonderful my “black people” if we could stop holding each other back.
Elizabeth cried because sometimes the truth hurts. White and Black people do not live in the same world. Black people especially dark skinned people are directly and indirectly are treated inferior to white people everyday of their lives in almost every situation on the job, in the media, by the law, in politics, in school, at daycare center etc.
Elizabeth lives in this world of fairyland and disneyland mom. Oh the world is a perfect place because I am white and my world is perfect therefore, what could be wrong. Whoopi, is like wait one minute white lady, wake up, if you think for one minute white people are not using the N-word and to say the least you want me to believe that you have never used the N-word you are lieing thru your teeth and breath stinks.
@ K-TEN
“it looks bad on us as a whole and people of other races like claroliza look on us with disgust (or confusion i should say) when they dont have to.”
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K-TEN, first of all there is only one race, but many ethnicities. Secondly, claroliza stated that she/he is a black hispanic. That means that she got there the same way we got here. Those spanish slave owners probably used some other word that they secretly call themselves. Also remember that the culture of self hate is evident in one form or another amongst all children of former slaves.
One one hand when a white person says the word they are racist….But when we say it we are not?
GTFOH people
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its parallel to saying,”i cant fit these jeans with my fat ass!”, however if you say, “you cannot fit those jeans with your fat ass!”, i would take offense, prolly..im so glad whoopi got that biatch together..i cant stand elizabeth and shes no more trying to get to the root of black problems than the man in the moon..shes trying to make blacks look stupid for including the word in their vocabulary but she can say what she wants, we took the power outta the word for the most part..and for her to even suggest that we are living in an equal society clearly indicates that she is detached from reality..and those fake asss tears…she wasnt crying about the issue, she was crying cuz she got shut down..could barbara be any faker?..smh..kudos whoopi…
someone said blacks say honkey and cracker,,,well excuse me you are white you dont have the blood of your ancestors on others hands by being enslaved and dont you know there is pain behind that wors, folks back then were killed and hung on the word by whites .. its a lot of death , humuliation and pain behind the n word , not the damn h word.. . thats the reason … what dont you get about that?
I love the way that Sherri just got real ghetto and was like”You cant use it. It is what it is. Deal with it..”LMAO. Whoppi tried to break it down for simple Simon Elizabeth who decides to cry because she’s losing the argument.. Like why are “you” crying??? Does that word REALLY offend you that much?? LMAO. I LOVE AMERICA!!! GO TEAM USA
@WhatsYoursIsMine
Hey girl! *waving wildly* I keep missing you. I hope you’re having a great weekend.
Off-topic, but I came across a commentary today in the Washington Post. I would love to get your views on it when we’re able to connect. There’s an excerpt below and you can access the entire piece at www(dot)washingtonpost(dot)com. My girlfriends and I just discussed the impact of the public (mis)treatment of Michelle on us as black women:
Black. Female. Accomplished. Attacked.
By Sophia A. Nelson
Sunday, July 20, 2008; B01
There she is — no, not Miss America, but the Angela-Davis-Afro-wearing, machine-gun-toting, angry, unpatriotic Michelle Obama, greeting her husband with a fist bump instead of a kiss on the cheek.
It was supposed to be satire, but the caricature of Barack Obama and his wife that appeared on the cover of the New Yorker last week rightly caused a major flap. And among black professional women like me and many of my sisters in the Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, who happened to be gathered last week in Washington for our 100th anniversary celebration, the mischaracterization of Michelle hit the rawest of nerves.
Welcome to our world.
We’ve watched with a mixture of pride and trepidation as the wife of the first serious African American presidential contender has weathered recent campaign travails — being called unpatriotic for a single offhand remark, dubbed a black radical because of something she wrote more than 20 years ago and plastered with the crowning stereotype: “angry black woman.” And then being forced to undergo a politically mandated “makeover” to soften her image and make her more palatable to mainstream America.
Sad to say, but what Obama has undergone, though it’s on a national stage and on a much more prominent scale, is nothing new to professional African American women. We endure this type of labeling all the time. We’re endlessly familiar with the problem Michelle Obama is confronting — being looked at, as black women, through a different lens from our white counterparts, who are portrayed as kinder, gentler souls who somehow deserve to be loved and valued more than we do. So many of us are hoping that Michelle — as an elegant and elusive combination of successful career woman, supportive wife and loving mother — can change that.
“Ain’t I a woman?” Sojourner Truth famously asked 157 years ago. Her ringing question, demanding why black women weren’t accorded the same privileges as their white counterparts, still sums up the African American woman’s dilemma today: How are we viewed as women, and where do we fit into American life?
“Thanks to the hip-hop industry,” one prominent black female journalist recently said to me, all black women are “deemed ’sexually promiscuous video vixens’ not worthy of consideration. If other black women speak up, we’re considered angry black women who complain. This society can’t even see a woman like Michelle Obama. All it sees is a black woman and attaches stereotypes.”
I’m so sorry, but this was such an interesting commentary that I think will resonate with many sistas, I’m just going to post the rest. I apologize for the length. Have a good afternoon!:
Black women have been mischaracterized and stereotyped since the days of slavery and minstrel shows. In more recent times, they’ve been portrayed onscreen and in popular culture as either sexually available bed wenches in such shows as the 2000 docudrama “Sally Hemings: An American Scandal,” ignorant and foolish servants such as Prissy from “Gone With the Wind” or ever-smiling housekeepers, workhorses who never complain and never tire, like the popular figure of Aunt Jemima.
Even in the 21st century, black women are still bombarded with media and Internet images that portray us as loud, aggressive, violent and often grossly obese and unattractive. Think of the movies “Norbit” or “Big Momma’s House,” or of the only two black female characters in “Enchanted,” an overweight, aggressive traffic cop and an angry divorcée amid all the white princesses.
On the other hand, when was the last time you saw a smart, accomplished black professional woman portrayed on mainstream television or in the movies? If Claire Huxtable on “The Cosby Show” comes to mind, remember that she left the scene 16 years ago.
The reality is that in just a generation, many black women — who were mostly domestics, schoolteachers or nurses in the post-slavery Jim Crow era — have become astronauts, corporate executives, doctors, lawyers, engineers and PhDs. You name it, and black women have achieved it. The most popular woman on daytime television is Oprah Winfrey. Condoleezza Rice is secretary of state.
And yet my generation of African American women — we’re called, in fact, the Claire Huxtable generation — hasn’t managed to become successfully integrated into American popular culture. We’re still looking for respect in the workplace, where, more than anything else, black women feel invisible. It’s a term that comes up again and again. “In my profession, white men mentor young whites on how to succeed,” a financial executive told me, but “they’re either indifferent to or dogmatically document the mistakes black women make. Their indifference is the worst, because it means we’re invisible.”
As someone who recently left a large law firm to work in the corporate sector, I have to agree. I liked my firm, but I always felt that I had to sink or swim on my own. I didn’t get the kind of mentoring that I saw white colleagues, male and female, getting all around me. The firm was actually one of the better ones when it came to diversity, and yet of 600 partners, only five were black women.
A 2007 American Bar Association report titled “Visible Invisibility” describes how black women in the legal profession face the “double burden” of being both black and female, meaning that they enjoy none of the advantages that black men gain from being male, or that white women gain from being white.
Invisibility isn’t the only problem. I run an organization dedicated to supporting African American professional women and often run empowerment workshops at various conferences. At a recent such workshop, I asked the participants to list some words that would describe how they believe they’re viewed in the workplace and the culture at large. These are the kinds of words that came back: “loud,” “angry,” “intimidating,” “mean,” “opinionated,” “aggressive,” “hard.” All painful words. Yet asked to describe themselves, the same women offered gentler terms: “strong,” “loving,” “dependable,” “compassionate.”
Where does the disconnect come from? Possibly from the way black women have been forced into roles of strength for decades. “Black women are the original multitaskers of necessity,” says one nonprofit executive. “We’ve perfected it because we’ve been doing it for so long. But people don’t appreciate the skill it requires, and they don’t recognize the toll it takes on us as human beings.”
For all our success in the professional world, we have paid a significant price in our private and emotional lives. A life of preordained singleness (by chance, not by choice) is fast becoming the plight of alarming numbers of professional black women in America. The fact is that the more money and education a black woman has, the less likely she is to marry and have a family.
Consider these stunning statistics: As of 2007, according to the New York Times, 70 percent of professional black women were unmarried. Black women are five times more likely than white women to be single at age 40. In 2003, Newsweek reported that there are more black women than black men (24 percent to 17 percent) in the professional-managerial class. According to Department of Education statistics cited by the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, black women earn 67 percent of all bachelor’s degrees awarded to blacks, as well as 71 percent of all master’s degrees and 65 percent of all doctoral degrees.
With all the challenges facing professional black women today, we hope that Michelle Obama will defy the negative stereotypes about us. And that, now that a strong professional black woman is center stage, she’ll bring to light what we already know: that an accomplished black woman can be a loyal and supportive wife and a good mother and still fulfill her own dreams. The fact that her husband clearly adores Michelle is both refreshing and reassuring to many of us who long to find a good man who will love and appreciate us.
Recently, a friend who’s a married professional mother of three girls wrote to me: “I think one of the most interesting things about Michelle Obama is that what she and her husband are doing is pretty revolutionary these days — and I don’t mean running for president. For a black man and woman in the U.S. to be happily married, with children, and working as partners to build a life — let alone a life of service to others — all while rearing their children together is downright revolutionary.”
It’s how so many black professional women feel. And our hope is that if Michelle Obama becomes first lady, the revolution will come to us at last.
Thank you Sydney!
I understood completely what Whoopi was trying to say and Elizabeth is a dumb white braod ..That’s why she started crying on national TV. She should be embarrassed
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Hey Rozza! No problem
I hope all is well with you. I thought this commentary gave me a lot of food for thought and expressed many observations I’ve shared with my friends.
I understand where Elisabeth is coming from, and she could’ve made a valid point but the way she executed it just made her looked stupid. I personally don’t think the word should be used at all, considering the original meaning of the word, but OBVIOUSLY a white person can’t say it! N*gger was a word used by white people as derogatory term, an insult, a word that just is disrespectful. So if a white person today refered to a black person as that word, obviously they are trying to offend them, disprespect them, etc. Pulling that ” oh but black people use the word! ” bullshit makes people look like dumbasses. First of all, if you say a word simply because it’s being used, you are a mindless dumbass, and secondly, a white person does not mean it in the same way. A black person means it as a friend. I wouldn’t say as a term of endearment, but as another word for homie, sure. That’s just how it is. That’s how life is. Not everybody can like everything, but that’s how it is. If you’re white, just don’t say it, end of story.
( I’m middle eastern btw )
All this “WE CAN SAY IT AND YOU CAN’T SAY IT” bullshit is not only a bunch of stupid ass hip hop rhetoric, but it’s causing some major social confusion amongst the more impressionable youth and young adults across all racial divides. Ah well, let the sociologist figure this shit out. I’m personally too old to care. Now where’s my bottle of Ripple?
@ ilovekanye
Black people shouldn’t call each other by that word either.
Your logic would mean that it’s slightly not as bad if instead of a white person saying this word, an asian person or an indian person said it. I think either way you cut it, using this word is no good – it’s a word filled with negative connotations…there’s no good that this word brings/implies, contrary to what Whoopi or Sherri tries to argue.
@ Ebony_Sphere
I hope you mean you understood what Whoopi was saying, but you don’t agree with it.
She’s trying to argue that by blacks using this word, it symbolizes unity and a common understanding of heritage and what their ancestors/relatives/bloodline went through in America to get to where they are at now, and their everyday struggles and hurdles that they commonly face, as black people.
But I think there are much better ways to do this, then to call each other a word that has so much negative connotations. I don’t agree with her that by them using this word, it shows they now own this word. Anyway you slice it, it’s a word with negative connotations. I think it’s naive for her to think this word can be owed and connotations of this word changed, as a result of only blacks being able to use it.
@ Ebony_Sphere
Us continually using this word to refer to each other only makes other races look at us and think we’re foolish.
This word was and always will have negative connotations. We will never “Own” it and change it’s perception or meaning, just by forcing the world to accept that only we can use it.
I cant stand that little white girl on the view. She always wanna play the voice of reason and the educator but Whoopi set her ass straight when she came w/ that we live in the “same world” bullshit. As soon as Whoopi broke that shit down she realized her point was not only NOT true but weak and she turned on the water works and tried to change her tune. But still couldn’t admit on tv that world is NOT same for many black people. Typical white devil!!!!
Big up to Whoopi and Sherry for keeping the discussion intelligent while “that bitch barbara walters” tried to moderate.
@ Nothing Nice
Martin Luther King is probably SMH at what you just said.
But I guess what do you expect – celebrities are not celebrities because they are smart. They’re good at other things – specifically entertaining us.
I LOVE WHOOPI….she is soooo RIGHT!! anyone who disagrees is a fool!!
I LOVE WHOOPI….she is soooo RIGHT!! anyone who disagrees is a fool!! I luuvv my niggas
nothing going to change until god comes back and he will,,,,,,,,,,real soon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Elizabeth pulled the old white woman trick, play helpless and cry. Somebody get that bitch off TV. What is she famous for anyway, winning a damn contest and fucking a ball player and spitting out a couple of puppies.
wow, i just can’t understand the diffuculty of this issue. The N word is something that black and white people will never agree on because we have both had different experiences with it. We have had it used against us as by the white man as a term that demeans our people, and we have now turned it around as a term of endearment, despite the history. Elizabeth wouldn’t know that since shes not black and I can’t fault her for saying get rid of the “N” word, since all she knows is that it’s bad. But at the same time, she has no say so in what goes on in black neighborhoods; I’m pretty sure that she doesn’t come down to the hood to help out, so she’s shouldn’t get involved in business that has no concern of hers. I gotta commend Whoopi, she broke it down and let everybody know what’s really up, big up’s Whoopi!!!
@ Mz. Sumthin
You gotta be kidding me. We don’t turn this word around into a term of Endearment by using it, even if we mean well when we use this word amongst ourselves.
Using this word, even if we mean good by using it, disrespects our ancestors and our generations past who had to deal with being called this. We might as well call each other “Slaves”, if we are to continue using this word amongst ourselves.
I dunno about y’all who agree with Whoopi, but
I never feel Endeared when another black person calls me by this word.
Am I missing something here?
TO ME ITS A BLACK ISSUE THAT WE AS BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND DISCUSS IT, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT IT ON THE VIEW WITH BROADS LIKE ELIZABETH OR BETTER YET WHY ARE WE ON A BLACK BLOG DISCUSSING OUR ISSUES WITH A “YEAH IM WHITE”… ESP WHEN SHE HAS TO USE A NAME LIKE “YEAH IM WHITE”… OKAY WHY ARE U ADVERTISING THAT.. AND TO ME THIS A TOPIC BITCHES LIKE YOU AND ELIZABETH SHOULD STAY OUT OF.
I wonder what Whoopi & Sherri would say if Obama asked them not to use this word at all times.
I’m pretty sure Obama doesn’t call his Black friends by this word, and doesn’t condone the use of it.
@ HA HA
Correction! It was a black issue, until Hip Hop/Gangsta’ Rap made it acceptable for everyone to nod their head to it and address your friends with it. It’s not our own personal adjective anymore. It’s been co-opted by every ethnic youth and young adult in this country by no fault of our own. Like i stated yesterday, Pandora’s box has been opened. To pretend otherwise is stupid. To feign outrage and unbrage when someone non-black or black utters it, is a waste of energy – SOCIAL CONFUSION AT ITS’ MOST SUBLIME.
It seems as if ignorance has prevailed in the use of the N word. The N Word is a racial slur. It originated from hatred towards black people. Repeated use of this word has caused children of all races to repeat this slur as a term of endearment. Some of these same children hear their parents use this word to express their hatred for black people. Their is no plausible way to explain to a child that this is a positive word and ecourage its use.
These rap artist have made poor judgement by repeatedly using this word. Children and people of other races, listen and repeat these phrases laced with the N word. This is a disgrace.
i must say this is all some bullshit……black and white both now the root of this word, yes lots of blacks say the word nigga as if it where the word THE (get it) however there is somthing in me that cringes, when we as black people use that word around whites. It almost sickens me cause i know almost instantly what their thinking. Sambo jiggaboo, coon and the other fuckup words we would never uses towards on another……..so we indiviually need to take responsabilty not to use it in public LOL
well, it looks like i’ll never get off of this post..
@datdude:
K-TEN, first of all there is only one race, but many ethnicities. Secondly, claroliza stated that she/he is a black hispanic. That means that she got there the same way we got here. Those spanish slave owners probably used some other word that they secretly call themselves. Also remember that the culture of self hate is evident in one form or another amongst all children of former slaves.
ok EXCUSE me, ETHNICITIES, not races. thats the only thing i agree with you on (my mistake). just because we all came from the same place but settled in different places and became different cultures doesnt mean that we all look at each other the same, especially when it comes to the issue of the usage of the n-word. i mean, she did say “from the outside, i can tell you all look very ignorant. yet, another thing i will never understand about African-Americans.”
you said, “Those spanish slave owners probably used some other word that they secretly call themselves.” im not working on PROBABLY. and if that is even the case, you dont hear them saying it and shouting it off of the rooftops like us African-Americans. there are no televised debates on that (that im aware of).
another thing: “Also remember that the culture of self hate is evident in one form or another amongst all children of former slaves.” i never said anything to assume that i disagreed with that. self hate really doesnt even originate from slavery. like i said waaaay earlier before i commented on caroliza’s post was about how, for example, African tribe “A” sold African tribe “B” to the white man when he came to Africa and the whole ordeal and establishment of slavery in the Americas. what i was saying then was basically that we didnt all get along before the white man came, and we still dont.
yes, those from the Dominican Republic, Haiti and other countries did travel on the same boat as us African-Americans, but we dont all look at each other the same.
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on another note, im still just trying to figure out why us blacks are fighting for equality if a lot of us are saying “We can use it but you cant.” do you want to be equal or not?
and other thing, why cant we bury the word and understand, teach, and grow as the other ethnic groups have against words that demean them? THE ONLY WAY AT “GETTING BACK AT THE WHITE MAN” IS TO BEAT HIM AT IS OWN GAME. not play INTO it. so what does that mean? go as far as you can in life and be successful. look at Obama! all the white man is doing is laughing at us trying to justify an insult.
obviously justifying the word and saying “only we can use it” isnt working!! cause we’re still having this conversation today!!
The N word is so unnecessary. We are creative enough as a people to develop our own words of endearment. I could never understand the concept of embracing demeaning words in order to empower oneself. I feel the most powerful move is just to eliminate its usage totally. I am black and agree with Elizabeth, it just so unfortunate that her point wasn’t really heard. I think Sherri and Whoopi jump on her because I think that they were assuming that she was wondering why she could not use it but they could. I believe the point she was trying to make was how can you embrace a word that was once used to demean you.
I read what people are saying about the word N*gga being used as a racial slur against us but white women call their best friends bitches all the time and nobody seems to get their panties in a bunch about that. When black men in hip hop videos use it then it’s disrespecting our black women. What gives? I ain’t gon lie, I do not like being called a bitch. Rather it be by my homegirl or otherwise, but I have used the n word a couple of times while talking to my fellow Black American lol. I just wanna know what’s all da fuss about? It’s a word that like Whoopi said was once used against us but we turned that shit around and made it work for us since lets get real until this world ends da n word will neva go away. I think that with all the black men going to jail and the black women fighting to prove themselves in WHITE America the N word is the only thing that we as black people have control over as far as how it gets used. Hope my point of view is coming across a lil bit.
@ super woman
I think the problem is that Whoopi & Sherri was glorifying the appropriateness of using this word amongst ourselves.
I know you say what’s all the fuss about this, But would you condone the use of this word in front of millions of people watching if you were on the show like Whoopi & Sherri?
@ sniper
People are gonna say what they wanna say regardless on if I condone it our not. I’m not gonna hate on Whoopi if one day her and Sherri decides to get on the View and greet each other in front of millions of viewers with “What’s up my nigga!” LOL! Naw for real though it is what it is. Like I said b4 Whoopi said it best.
@ super woman
I don’t think Whoopi said it best. It’s not Endearing at all when people call me by that word. What on earth is so endearing about calling me by that word. I might as well be called “Slave”. What’s worse is that another black person is calling me a “Slave”.
Using this word with the intent of endearment doesn’t change the meaning of this word, period.
Whoopi & Sherri are idiots. But what do you expect I guess, it’s not like they are University professors or scientists.
We never required our Entertainers/Actors/Comedians to be smart, so I guess I should expect to hear dumb things come from their mouths.
Elizabeth needs to STFU… She doesn’t know what it’s like to be called a “ni**er” especially by a white person!! She always seems to dig a damn hole and fall in it! Ho, just shut up so u wont have to cry and whine all the damn time!!
I have friends of all shapes, sizes, colors, backgrounds etc. but I call none of them out of their name, and they don’t do it to me either. If anyone, friend or not, calls me a bitch or a ho or something else that of course I’m not gonna let that slide. I am not a female dog, nor do I sleep around..at all! So why call me something I’m not? Just because a lot of people use these words with each other (for what reason I dont know) doesn’t make it ok with me. I’m not a bitch, a ho, a slut, a n*gger, or anything like that whatsoever. And I’ll never be stupid enough to call anyone else any of those names. I’m better than that, and the people that I hang with are better than that, and to me, there are no alternate definitions to either of those words.
If there are still people out there that think only blacks can use the n-word, then make sure you take me out of your distorted view on this. I’ll just claim that I’m another ethnicity from my family background.
@sniper
I’ve been quietly agreeing with you throughout this discussion. It’s good to know some people out there use their brains.
@K-ten
Yeah, it’s too bad no one Stood up further to Whoopi & Sherri.
It’s also too bad that there was no other Black person on the show who doesn’t agree with Whoopi & Sherri, because it seems like Whoopi & Sherri would’ve been more receptive (i.e. at least listen, instead of starting to yell and scream and dismiss) to a Black person who disagreed with them during their conversation.
@sniper
Exactly! I couldn’t have said it better. By not letting Elizabeth (at least on this clip) state her full argument and point out the contradictions shows their stupidity and persistence of wanting to be right and only them being right.
F*ck you n!ggers!
Yea but we’re not racist are we.. We get away with sayin ish all the time. White folks need to stop being scared to say ish. for example at the bet awareds sean was like here’s lauren london a great role model for all the young black women out there..Sure I agree..but now let a white person stand up and say here’s such n such a great role model for all the young white women out there..etc. etc. We’d go to cryin like some lil itches..all outraged n ish..its real. On a side note its painful lookin at whoopi’s ugly ass.
Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin (both Italian) were notorious for calling each other dego and wop in public, but they would have cut any non-Italian or Non-Sicilian for saying it. And rightfully so. They used those terms with each other as terms of endearment.
I doubt that we’re the only ones that do this. Maybe the other groups just keep that kind of talk within the family. Keep it in the family. Otherwise, it’s offensive. Plain and simple.
Not that I completely agree with Elizabeth because her experience is different than Sherri’s or Whoopi’s but black people do need to realize the double standard of using the word. You can’t popularize a word and say it’s “just a word” and be oh so offended when a white person says it. I use the word sometimes but I would NEVER knowingly say it to another black person in front of a white person.
I never really agree with Elizabeth, but she was right and Whoopi was wrong. You can’t teach your child a double standard with the word. We need to stop complaining about others using it when we use it. It is not a word used lovingly, nor was it created to be used lovngly. It is a word that was meant to degrade us in the lowest possible form. Those who use it never had to live through the horrors it brought about. Rappers especially are guilty of it. I wish those who died over the word could take the place of those who feel it has no meaning (NAS)
@ Marquis de sade,
I totally agree with you regarding the issue causing social confusion. The N word has totally infiltrated the entertainment industry. Movies, music, television, comedy acts etc all freely make use of the Nword. Today’s youth of all colours are being exposed to this on a frequent basis. Now what happens when a non-black youth picks up on this word that they are constantly hearing? They start calling their peers ” my N***a” as a form of endearment without any negative connonation. Can we honestly accuse the youth of being racist when the word slips out of their mouth? What happens when they refer to a non black individual as “ma N***a”? Is this “allowed”?
Hip Hop music is riddled with the use of the N word and is enjoyed by people of all different backgrounds. However can we honestly get angry at a non black individual for singing along to a song that slips the n word in?
I’m not saying that everyone should be using that word. I do realize that non black individuals can never understand the power behind it. But I also feel that its too late to remove the word from society’s vocab, as removing it would give it more power and attention. This issue will never get resolved.
*connotation
I don’t understand. It’s only one word that whites or any other race can’t use. ONE WORD. White people just want to have control over everything and that word is just one of the ways that we (as blacks) have control. White people need to just give up and just let it be. You can’t say it…. end of discussion
Peace.
why would someone white other than to insult us want to use nigga! Don’t worry why i use it, i’m black. The problem is the usa will not admit to racism. And like ole’ girl said if your white I dont want to hear it come form you.
And stop saying the “n word”, it’s nigga! White folks came up with “the n word”, sounds stupid ass hell!
@100% obviously white pplz/other races came up with the term “nword” because they cant use the real word as pointed out in your post! Who cares if it sounds stupid as long as they arent using the real word …right?
I understand Elizabeth’s point. How do you explain to a child how, when and who can use a word? The (Spanish) child I mentor says she can use it cause Jay-Z uses it which goes to Elizabeth’s point. Whoopi and Sheri’s responses were completely ignorant. They gave a “because I said so” response and didn’t articulate their opinion in a way that made any sense. It’s as ridiculous to expect non-black people not to say the n-word as it is for me to expect men not to say b*tch. Using the word doesn’t give us power. Saying we can use it and they can’t just lets people know just how much power the word still has. If I’m called that word, I completely ignore it. I know that person wants to get a rise out of me. Ignoring it retains my power and lets that person know the word is meaningless to me. That’s how the word loses power.
Bohwe, I couldn’t agree with you more…when are we gonna wake up.
@COCO I disagree I think Whoopi explained it the best way it can be explained. There are social rules in every society. America is no different. It is not social acceptable for white to say nigga. Period! Get over it!