Does Anyone See What’s Wrong with This Video???: Two White Russian Women Discussing Why Black Women are Single…

Posted on February 13th, 2010 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: News, SMH, What the Hell???

ABC News brought the issue to the table earlier this year about WHY so many black women are single. Now two white women in Moscow decided to try and understand why so many black women are single in the USA…

Exactly Why is this an Issue in Russia???


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This issue was already discussed in America and some black women still have this conversation on a daily basis but… AGAIN… Why are two white Russian women discussing why black women are single in America???

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  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    here we go again…

  • Shay*

    Why is it their problem anyways…

  • Soul Touch

    LMAO

    …oh wow…now we’re a national dilemma. lol

    I am 30. I own my own home (purchased a few months ago). I don’t have children. I’m educated and I’m single.

    I also only date black men.

    I’ve never had a problem meeting men…sh*t just didn’t work out. Nor do I feel like I’m running out of options because I date all black men (canadian, american, british, african, west-indian…black is black).

    But I will say this, I know a number of non-black women my age that also have a hard time finding someone. So yes, there are some things that make it harder for black women who choose to only date black men (as they mentioned), but in essence, love is hard to find for most people.

    Why do I only date black men? That’s all I’m attracted to. Yes, other races are attractive, but that’s where my heart is. And there are just as many black men that feel the same way about black women. My problem with this look at celebs/athletes, there is a large number that date/marry black women, no one talks about them.

  • Soul Touch

    I am dating someone, but by single I mean unmarried.

  • Somali Ninga

    I HATED WHO THAT WHITE BIT©H CALLED THIS “ISSUE” A “PHENOMENON”!!!!! WHY DO CADAANS (WHITE PPL IN SOMALI) CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS ISSUE!?!?! WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO ONE-UP BLACK PPL!!! GEEZ!!!

  • kris

    why not? their women too. maybe they have good advice to give…lol We can’t figure it out…maybe some white women can. just sayin..hahaha

  • John Mayer

    Soul Touch

    You only date Black men. You’re sexually racist!

  • Soul Touch

    @John Mayer

    And you’re a fool. Go play your games somewhere else.

  • tunie1

    It is an issue for all the of them…if we can’t find Mr. Right in our own backyard, they are afraid we may come visit in theirs….

  • Halle Berry

    Ladies get you a white man. He will love and take care of you. Black men just want to beat you down & then call you loud when you scream for help.

    PLZ MY SISTAS

    WAKE UP

    Halle Berry, Halle Berry

  • John Mayer

    Soul Touch

    So why don’t we get together, so I can poke your Harriet Tubman with my David Duke?

  • Angee

    Why the H-E-double hockey sticks is this being discussed in Russia?!?!? :roll: :shock:

    Don’t they have more pressing issues to be concerned about? Is this supposed to be a human interest story?

    Let me get out of this thread, it’s about to get real ugly in here.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    What these Russian women need to do is a study on as to why so many Russian women are seeking out North American men for marriage since they have all these mail order bride services or what not..puh-lease! They have bigger fish to fry out there so don’t “worry” so much about black women & our love lives…On to the next—->

  • Soul Touch

    @deesac

    That’s a problem with people period, not black woman.

    Most people will put the blame outside of them before they will look within for the answer (what I could have done different or what I did wrong, for example).

    Playing the blame game will get you no where but running in circles.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Too late, Angee…Cause THE DAYWALK HAS COME TO BRING THE PAIN!!!

  • kris

    hahahaha@john mayer (the name alone is funny) HAHAHAHAHA sexually racist?..Soul Touch. Many black women are. I’m not.

  • Stop With The Foolishness

    ^^^You know you aint no Halle Berry^^^ LOL

  • Soul Touch

    @Tunie

    LOL, ya know.

    @URHeiness

    Amen.

  • kit

    reason bad attitude

  • Soul Touch

    @kris

    And neither are half the women in my family (married to white men)

  • TELL’EM

    @Daywalker

    Dont start with the ignorant ish.

  • White Devil

    Maybe they are worried about a bunch of Naomi Campbells scooping up all of the rich Russian men.

  • shabbaranks

    one up black people? russians dont care, they just wondering why so many single black women maybe

  • Soul Touch

    If love wasn’t hard for everyone then why do we have all these dating sites.

    White, Black, Purple people are trying to find their mate.

  • Stacey Dee

    I meet guys of all races, whether I am living in the states or overseas, all you fools on here saying “they are comparing us to white women” well duh..of course they are, women are women. We are not a seperate species from white women! We deserve the best just like they do. You can sit there and pretend your offended by this, but it’s *****ing you off because you all know it’s true. The moment black women stop being delusional about black men is the moment they will find happiness. If you cannot find a black man who is on your level, find another one of another race who is.

    If your ignorant family tells you not to bring home a white/hispanic/asian man, and you listen, then your a bigger fool than others and you deserve to be alone.

    How many black mothers do you think tell their sons not to bring home a white girl..do you think they listen? No. Black men go for what they want and they do not care how it looks on black women. They ridicule and humiliate black women in public and make ZERO apology for it.

    Only black women are sitting around complaining about this and what’s amazing is they still haven’t figured it out what I say almost everyday to black women on this site. Give up on black men. They simply do not matter anymore!

    If your lucky and land a good black man, you betta fight like hell to make sure he is happy and so are you, because successful black on black relationships are few and far between.

    They don’t marry you, they don’t take care of their own kids, they give you no support, yet your fighting to be with men that do not want you. Please wake up and explore your options!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    TELL’EM
    2/13/10, 18:34:pm
    @Daywalker

    Dont start with the ignorant ish.
    _______________________________________________

    Sorry, too late to tell me to stop, now…

  • Stacey Dee

    my sis is a modeling scout in NYC, she says she see alot of white women with bi-racial daughters come in to see about getting work for acting and modeling at her agency. My sis talks to them, works with them and mentors them through the whole process, she says the one thing she finds interesting after speaking to hundreds of women who have half black children after 12 years in the industry is that, these white women almost all tell her the same thing..which is..

    Black men, abandoned them, or took their money, left theme for another white girl, and/or pays no support to them either..sound familar? They are not whisking these women away and giving them a better life, they are doing the same crap to white girls they are doing to us. It’s just that white women are too embr*****ed to say it out loud because all of their white friends and family will say, “told ya so”

    For every Reggie Bush, there are 1000 Bobby Browns. the problem isn’t white women, and the problem isn’t us, it’s black men..get it?

  • Halle Berry

    @Stacy Dee You said it right.

  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    this thread is going to explode in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

  • Pam#2

    whenever the traffic slows down on this site they post some black men vs. black women sh*t. these never accomplish anything, its just “black men aint ish they’re all gay/in jail/with a white girl!!” and “black women aint ish they’re all mean/crazy/angry!!” WTF? lol

  • Marquis de Sade

    I’ve typed it once, and i’ll type it again: “THE LAST THING MOST ALPHA MALES WANT, IS TO MARRY AN ALPHA FEMALE”

    …I mean, think about it, why should they? These sistas’ have bought into this HEATHCLIFF & CLAIR HUXTABLE dichotomy that (in most cases) doesn’t EXIST!

    Both of these women came out of college with this pre-conceived notion that they’re entitled to their “HAPPILY EVER AFTER” with this “FICTICIOUS” Prince Charming that in all probability is lookin’ for a Cinderella, i.e. someone who’s hot, young and most importantly not as ambitious and driven as he is…And don’t get it twisted, it’s not out of some irrational insecurity of bein’ threatened by the notion of the “STRONG POWERFUL FEMALE”, but of the desire for someone to stay home and tend to the day to day domestics, suchas tending to their offspring and cooking.

    If these sistas’ want a husband, they’ll have to settle for a blue-collar worker or (to the extreme) a stay at home “HOUSE” husband…It’s the costs of bein’ ambitious, driven and successful.

    …Afterall, when was the last time Donald Trump or any powerful “ALPHA” male married their EQUAL?

  • Soul Touch

    @Daywalker

    Your comment of white men not marrying black women is beyond ignorant and makes me wonder what planet you live on.

  • Halle Berry

    @ Day Walker( The Dead Dream)
    First off, you sound dumb as hell…White men don’t want to wife your azzes, now asian women are another story!!! White men will gladly bust one in your face, but when it comes to marrying you, you can forget it!! And Latin men are the same way! Do you think they want you for more than a piece of azz?? If you do, then you’re mistaken!!! And strong black women don’t whine on television shows about how they can’t get men, they see an object they wish to posess, and go about getting it! Weak women make excuses, Strong ones overcome their obstacles….Get it right!!!
    _____________________________________________

    You sound ignorant. You dont even know any latin and whit men. Allthe black men Ive dated i.e. Eric Benet, Were selfish, abusive, and down right degrading. White and latin men that are into black men will treat you like the Queen that you are. Its just like a black man to say “nobody wants you but black men” but black men will be the first to leave you, beat you, and mistreat you.

    Ladies wake up leave this crazy, aggressive gangsters alone.

    Halle Berry, Halle Berry

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @Stacey Dee

    “Give up on black men. They simply do not matter anymore!”

    I know I’ve written that I’ve agreed with some points you’ve made in the past, but I simply have to disagree with your assessment — Black men certainly DO matter. My father is a black man who married my mother and always provided for and cared for his family. There are many others like him.

    Yes, there are some black men who choose to degrade black women in private and in public, and, yes, this is a source of pain for a number of sisters. But I refuse to turn my back on the entire population of black men who are my reflection. Do not let a few “bad apples” spoil the bunch. Those bad apples would never make suitable partners in any case — how could you ever expect to form a healthy relationship who cannot/will not love and respect you?

    Black men absolutely do matter, as do black women, and as long as we are divided, we cannot and will not prosper as a community.

  • Sarah

    I will never be with a black man. They are ugly and no good. They don’t even have money. I would rather be with a white man who is better looking and appreciate my chocolate skin.

  • Soul Touch

    Sorry, that was a quote from Sydney…

  • Halle Berry

    @ Day Walker( The Dead Dream)
    First off, you sound dumb as hell…White men don’t want to wife your azzes, now asian women are another story!!! White men will gladly bust one in your face, but when it comes to marrying you, you can forget it!! And Latin men are the same way! Do you think they want you for more than a piece of azz?? If you do, then you’re mistaken!!! And strong black women don’t whine on television shows about how they can’t get men, they see an object they wish to posess, and go about getting it! Weak women make excuses, Strong ones overcome their obstacles….Get it right!!!
    _____________________________________________

    You sound ignorant. You dont even know any latin and white men. All the black men I’ve dated i.e. Eric Benet, Were selfish, abusive, and down right degrading. White and latin men that are into black women will treat you like the Queen that you are. Its just like a black man to say “*****ody wants you but black men” but black men will be the first to leave you, beat you, and mistreat you.

    Ladies wake up leave this crazy, aggressive gangsters alone.

    Halle Berry, Halle Berry

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @Marquis

    “If these sistas’ want a husband, they’ll have to settle for a blue-collar worker or (to the extreme) a stay at home “HOUSE” husband…It’s the costs of bein’ ambitious, driven and successful.”

    Wow, I could have sworn that I know a number of couples in which the husbands and wives are similarly ambitious and successful. . .It must be my imagination.

  • MZOJUMU

    Well it is sad to say that all over the world black women are known to be single, all over the world people knows that all of our black men are in prison, all over the world they know that our black men will choose a white woman or a woman from another race instead of choosing a strong black woman. It is true and i am not mad at them for discussing this issue, a lot of black men have gotton black women pregnant and have left them to raise the babies on their own, or divorced their wives and they may pay child support, but that is it for some reason black men seem not to want to be bothered with us black women and children once they have decided to go outside of their race. I am married thank God, but i have seen time and time again where a black man has left a black woman for a white, hispanic, mixed breed etc…and we as women are left behind struggling trying to mend our broken heart and trying to make ends meet, i dont know what we can do to keep our black men with us, and out of prison, so that they can become successful members of society, at some point you would think that black men will say i am gonna stick with my sisters, but as i look around i dont think it is going to happen to soon. A lot of black women blame the other race for taking our men, but it is an individual decision and that is something that we just have to deal with. It is sad to say but once it reached Russia it is pretty much a rap, because i would not of thought that they would of even known what is going on over here, but i am sure there is some black man somewhere dating a Russian woman…wow go figure.

  • frankiestage

    Stacey Dee said: “…For every Reggie Bush, there are 1000 Bobby Browns. the problem isn’t white women, and the problem isn’t us, it’s black men..get it?” Got it. It’s all the fault of the Black men and Black women are perfect. With that mode of thinking, the number of people who will live and die single will only keep rising.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Halle Berry:

    Ha ha…Funny..And as far as me knowing latin and white men, I served with plenty of em while on active duty, and I can promise you that they were c-o-o-z-e-h-o-u-n-d-s of the highest order!! As long as their wives were around, they were all loving and put up a great front, but as soon as we were underway, and hit a port, they were on the prostitutes like ugly on an ape!! So spare me with your lame azz attempt to make them seem as though they are more than they are…I’ve seen what they do first hand…..

  • LA’S FINEST

    That black lady is ugly, so is that high yellow lady. If your cute there should be nothing to worry about. lose weight, groom yourself, get yoour hair down, and up your swag. Who wants to be with a ugly person. Ewwwwwwwwwww that black lady with her bald curls and gap was just triflen.

  • Halle Berry

    @Sarah You should’nt feel that way about black men. But definitely save yourself before he beats you down or impregnate you will a little f#cker that hates you when he grows up. You know what Im saying?

  • John Mayer

    Soul Touch

    Danm, i’d love to poke your Angela Davis with my David Duke. You give me Jungle Fever, baby!

  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    well ladies as a black man living in most urban cities the numbers are usually something like 12 to 1 and if you want to break it down to good black men that number triples or quadruples, then when you factor in your requirements for that man that number triples or quadruples again…..so at the end of the day that number ends up like 200-400 plus to 1….its sad but its true!!!

  • Marquis de Sade

    “Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)
    2/13/10, 19:03:pm

    @Marquis

    “If these sistas’ want a husband, they’ll have to settle for a blue-collar worker or (to the extreme) a stay at home “HOUSE” husband…It’s the costs of bein’ ambitious, driven and successful.”

    Wow, I could have sworn that I know a number of couples in which the husbands and wives are similarly ambitious and successful. . .It must be my imagination.”

    Exceptions, not the rule. If what you’ve witnessed was the “NORM”, then the plight of the single black woman and this (alleged) dearth of educated/eligible/marriage-minded blackmen wouldn’t be a constant bone of contention.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    *the women with whom you wish to unite*

    Please pardon the typos.

  • Sarah

    @ Daywalker

    Pathetic black man. Black men like you want everyone to think black women are undesirable and other races don’t want us. You are wrong. More and more black women are dating out and trust me men love us. My husband said he always admired black womens firm behind. So daywalker you ugly black man go back to your fat becky and leave us to handsome white men.

  • Soul Touch

    @Daywalker

    Then if it doesn’t mean anything to you, why do you feel the need to keep pointing it out?

    And on your second point, I completely agree with you. I have never dated anything but a black man, but if I ever chose to I would never feel the need to drag them through the mud.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @Marquis

    “Exceptions, not the rule. If what you’ve witnessed was the “NORM”, then the plight of the single black woman and this (alleged) dearth of educated/eligible/marriage-minded blackmen wouldn’t be a constant bone of contention.”

    Well, count me among the future “exceptions,” lol. As I stated before, despite what you may see in the media, this is not a “blacks-only” issue, or else there wouldn’t be so many women of other races searching for love on eHarmony and the like and elsewhere. Romance is hard to come by for some individuals across the board.

  • Soul Touch

    @TheRock

    And that the thing…left to believe (true or not) that you are a commodity. lol

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    “Sarah,” I refuse to believe that you’re an actual person. Please cease and desist.

  • deesac

    Sydney Sydney how many times do I got to explain to you about a NAPPY HEAD!!!
    A nappy head is a form of speach how a person carries themselves. Just as some bruthas might use the word nig@$r I choose not to use that choice of words. No different that there are many different classes of black people were all not the same, some will embrasse the hood or ghetto living and some black will not. Do that make us sell outs, would we like to be call nigu$@rs, no but some do like being call that and is proud of that life style.
    I pretty sure you know when you see them nigu%%rs acting up or when the nappy heads are acting foolish.

  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    Soul Touch

    2/13/10, 19:22:pm

    @TheRock

    And that the thing…left to believe (true or not) that you are a commodity. lol

    The Rock is a commodity and also a rare breed and The Rock knows that but at the same time The Rock doesn’t take advantage but The Rock is completely content and confident in his many options!!!

  • Soul Touch

    LMAO

    Well, as long as ‘The Rock’ doesn’t advantage….enjoy.

    The thing is, though the media doesn’t tell me and though statistics speak against me…’The Rock’ is not the only commodity.

  • Soul Touch

    @proud

    1. you’re quoting the wrong person.

    2. don’t worry about my love life, concern yourself with your own. now go back to sleep.

  • Halle Berry

    @Day Walker (The Dead Dream)

    I never said there are not any good black men out here. I was raised by one. Actually several my uncles are all still married to the mother of their children.

    But for to make a statement “White men will gladly bust one in your face, but when it comes to marrying you, you can forget it!! And Latin men are the same way! Do you think they want you for more than a piece of azz?? ”

    Shows how truly ignorant you are. And you prove my point about most black men.

    Yall want degrade black women and make us think, NO other race wants us. Just because yall lack respect for the real Queens.

  • deesac

    Sdyney
    You are so right it not just a black problem, there have been a spike in numbers of white fatherless family’s as well.
    Just think about it when you go to the mall you don’t see white families all together anymore like before.

    So your right don’t always believe what they media puts out like were the only ones in broken homes

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @Deesac

    “A nappy head is a form of speach how a person carries themselves.”

    I’m sorry, I think of it as the blatantly offensive term that Don Imus used a few years ago. Also, I’m unclear as to how a black man — who was also born with a certain hair texture — can use a trait that is part of our heritage against the women who look like him. Again, this would seem to be a bit of a barrier to your attempt to preach “black unity.” So you refuse to use the word “ni**er,” but you think that “nappy head” is a suitable alternative?

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Sarah
    2/13/10, 19:15:pm
    @ Daywalker

    Pathetic black man. Black men like you want everyone to think black women are undesirable and other races don’t want us. You are wrong. More and more black women are dating out and trust me men love us. My husband said he always admired black womens firm behind. So daywalker you ugly black man go back to your fat becky and leave us to handsome white men.
    ______________________________________________

    I hate to break this to you stupid, but that picture in my gravie is one of my girl’s azz!! trust me when I tell ya she’s as black as they come, and can’t get enough of this brother right here!!! That being said, you can spew all the names you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that White men typically marry asian women more often than black women, and even when they do, the marriages are more prone to ending in divorces, so don’t be surprised if your white hubby is out talking to a lawyer on your azz!!! LOL!!!

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  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    Soul Touch

    2/13/10, 19:30:pm

    LMAO

    Well, as long as ‘The Rock’ doesn’t advantage….enjoy.

    The thing is, though the media doesn’t tell me and though statistics speak against me…’The Rock’ is not the only commodity.

    Well that is true Soul Touch The Rock isn’t the only commodity but there is no one, and The Rock means no one like The Rock…if you smell what The Rock is cookin!!!

  • Nya

    Everyone knows that black men are the worst fathers on earth. That said, there are still millions of black people all over the world. Lots of Asians marry whites but their are still millions of Asians on this earth. Black men just refuse to grow up.

  • AHRA

    Yes over 60% of black men are in jail but only 30% have actually commited a crime. And I am a black women with a hard working black man that has a good job and excellent credit. He has his masters degree and I am workng on my bachelors. I had nothing when we met yet he still wanted me a black women. I get tired of women saying there are no good black men. The problem is you. You can not find a good man period whether he is to be white, black, or yellow. These women need to look at there selves and maybe they could find a man.

  • Projects

    Most of the black women with attitudes were raised without fathers and the men in their lives while growing up were usually abusive. Calling names and being physically violent and that kind of stuff harms and scars women for life.

  • Soul Touch

    @The ROck

    lol, I’m sure *eye roll*

    But I meant myself, cause there is only one me.

    And I have to disagree on your points on black women that only date black men. I’ve never had a problem meeting guys. For me I’ve dated blue collar to white collar. Book nerds to thrill seekers. Long relationships or just having fun. So it’s never been about not meeting black men, just either it wasn’t the right time or we just weren’t right for each other.

  • Soul Touch

    I said it earlier and I will say it again…everyone is searching for love; black, white, south asian, jew, whatever.

    love is hard. Actually, correction…love is easy. It’s us that complicate it with our demands, expectations, misrepresentation, baggage, selfishness…man, the list goes on.

  • Gymo

    @Ahra –
    Yes over 60% of black men are in jail but only 30% have actually commited a crime. And I am a black women with a hard working
    ———-
    That’s not true, if you don’t know the facts then look it it up but don’t tell a lie.

  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    Projects

    2/13/10, 19:41:pm

    Most of the black women with attitudes were raised without fathers and the men in their lives while growing up were usually abusive. Calling names and being physically violent and that kind of stuff harms and scars women for life.

    True dat there are a lot of black women that have grown up without their father or with a trifling, cheating, woman beating example of a man as their parent, it is true because black men know the position as well as the numbers if it is 300 to 1…..your ego tends to be alot bigger and your tolerance level is a lot thinner!!!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @Cookie B.:

    NAME 10 GOOD QUALITIES THAT YOU FIND ATTRACTIVE IN A BLACK WOMAN FROM HER PHYSICAL FEATURES TO THE GIFTED INTELLECT SHE DISPLAYS: Black men, I am talking to you.
    ______________________________________________

    I got this:

    Note, this list is not all inclusive, but it does apply to some…..

    1)Black women are pazzionate about things they believe in…

    2)Black women have insight into the black man’s nature, and can understand his issues…

    3)Black women are loving, nurturing, and caring when it comes to their children, but will fight like tigresses to protect their kids from harm…

    4)Black women are intelligent, and some are really insightful…

    5)Black women have a really good sense of humor….

    6)Black women have wonderful smiles….

    7)Black women are ladylike, and have a higher set of morals/standards than some other women…

    8)Black women have the strength to overcome adversity….

    9)Black women are azzertive, and aren’t pushovers….

    10)Black women are self sufficient, and can take care of themselves….

    NOTE, YOU ONLY WANTED 10…….LOL!

  • deesac

    A lot of our issue do come from broken homes the most I can say is for us to ask older people who have been married for many years. And see what made it work for them threw the hard times and still have respect for each other.

  • April

    All of the Rappers who are so disrespectful of black women were also raised by single black mothers. Raising a Man-Child is hard for a woman on her own. I know it can be done successfully because there are positive examples of it, but by the time a boy hits twelve he has stopped listening to what his mama has to say. He is angry that he has no father and no role model to guide him through life and teach him how to be a man. Nearly all of the black men in prison were raised without a father in the home. So many of these confused, Down-Low men were raised without a father. Girls and women simply have to stop getting pregnant by these men hoping that a baby will make him stay when just the opposite is true. Please, use contraceptives and stop having all of these babies out of wedlock. By yourself a puppy to raise until you are financially and emotionally able to stand on your own. Get the best education you can get before deciding to have a child. And get a passport to travel abroad to see how Black women are living elsewhere. Don’t settle and fall short of your dreams.

  • Gymo

    @Soul Touch –
    Anybody can meet lots of Black men / lots of Black women but the point is what comes from that, after the fling, did you just waste a part of your valuable life on a fling that didn’t have a future? or Did you marry, buy a house and are now raising your family?
    One is a waste of time the other is winning the life happiness prize.

  • Cookie B.

    Black women stop falling for the foolishness. Keep your brain on and leggs closed. Start looking at what a man does and not what he says. We as women, need to start holding our men accountable for their stupidity. Stop covering up for them, allowing them to play around so much. Everything happens for a reason and that reason is you. Make wiser decisions for yourselves.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    AHRA
    2/13/10, 19:40:pm
    Yes over 60% of black men are in jail but only 30% have actually commited a crime. And I am a black women with a hard working black man that has a good job and excellent credit. He has his masters degree and I am workng on my bachelors. I had nothing when we met yet he still wanted me a black women. I get tired of women saying there are no good black men. The problem is you. You can not find a good man period whether he is to be white, black, or yellow. These women need to look at there selves and maybe they could find a man.
    _____________________________________________

    Preach on, SISTA!! PREACH ON!!!

  • Halle Berry

    @Day Walker
    I got this:

    Note, this list is not all inclusive, but it does apply to some…..

    1)Black women are pazzionate about things they believe in…

    2)Black women have insight into the black man’s nature, and can understand his issues…

    3)Black women are loving, nurturing, and caring when it comes to their children, but will fight like tigresses to protect their kids from harm…

    4)Black women are intelligent, and some are really insightful…

    5)Black women have a really good sense of humor….

    6)Black women have wonderful smiles….

    7)Black women are ladylike, and have a higher set of morals/standards than some other women…

    8)Black women have the strength to overcome adversity….

    9)Black women are azzertive, and aren’t pushovers….

    10)Black women are self sufficient, and can take care of themselves….

    NOTE, YOU ONLY WANTED 10…….LOL!
    _______________________________________________

    Let me find out you :)

  • proudSwirler

    THE SAME THING BLACK MEN CALL “ATTITUDE” IS THE SAME THING WHITE MEN CALL “DRIVE, DETERMINATION, SEXI, ASSERTIVE”. THE QUALITIES BLACK MEN HATE IN YOU, WHITE MEN WILL LOVE

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @Halle Berry:

    Say what???

  • Halle Berry

    @April
    All of the Rappers who are so disrespectful of black women were also raised by single black mothers. Raising a Man-Child is hard for a woman on her own. I know it can be done successfully because there are positive examples of it, but by the time a boy hits twelve he has stopped listening to what his mama has to say. He is angry that he has no father and no role model to guide him through life and teach him how to be a man. Nearly all of the black men in prison were raised without a father in the home. So many of these confused, Down-Low men were raised without a father. Girls and women simply have to stop getting pregnant by these men hoping that a baby will make him stay when just the opposite is true. Please, use contraceptives and stop having all of these babies out of wedlock. By yourself a puppy to raise until you are financially and emotionally able to stand on your own. Get the best education you can get before deciding to have a child. And get a p*****port to travel abroad to see how Black women are living elsewhere. Don’t settle and fall short of your dreams.

    _____________________________________________

    Well said,

    Halle Berry, Halle Berry

  • Soul Touch

    @Gymo

    With those in a relationship, it just didn’t work out. Most of my relationships have been long relationship…one straight out hs but didn’t work out (as most don’t) the next, we were in an accident, both really hurt…then his father was murdered and then my father died.

    It was too hard to keep the relationship together dealing with everything else.

    Of course I would have liked for things to have turned out different, but it didn’t. No slight against them, no slight against me. It was all a learning experience and made me wiser and stronger as a woman.

    But just because it did not work out I don’t see that I’ve failed in some way, it just wasn’t meant to be…some people are in your life for a reason, some for a season. In the mean time I still have to live my life.

  • Cookie B.

    As black women, we should be p.a.s.t the baby momma pha.se and we should want and expect more from our black men. I do not want us to settle for just anybody. Let these men show us what they can do for us sense we have such stank attitudes and superficial ways. Let men like AHRA’s husband come to us. To all the black men, that say black women have bad attitudes, to me, that’s just an excuse to try to break us and put us down. STOP IT!

  • Soul Touch

    And just because things don’t work out, doesn’t mean you don’t try again.

    Nothing in life is guaranteed. Well, aside from death and taxes.

    I decided to proceeded in purchasing a home because it was an investment for my future….why pay rent when I can pay myself.

  • Blue
  • Blue

    There is a very important essay called The Psychology Of Black Women, that all of you need to read. You will find this informative article on blackgirlsrockit.com We might as well get use to the prying eyes on the world of us in this era of Obama. Be strong and do the best you can. Take care of yourselves because no one else will.

  • realwoman

    Oh puhlleeeze. Tell these Soviet hos to worry about why so many of them are strung out on drugs, prostituting and receiving beatings from THEIR men. Look up the stats.

    Furthermore, I am ALSO a black woman who has neeever ever had a problem getting a date but I still have sense enough to know that there are areas in our country where sisters are single and IT IS NOT THEIR FAULT. Before you all continue with the blame game of the African American woman do not forget to include the Black man’s rate of incarceration, high school dropout rates, life expectancy (yes ‘brothers’ you are killing yourselves at a faster rate than we are) etc. and realize that we are in this shyt together.

  • Cookie B.

    WE HAVE THE WORLD WOIDE WEB. INSTEAD OF FINDING RESOLUTIONS WE WANT TO FUSE, CURSE AND FIGHT; PEOPLE I AM DISAPPOINTED. BETWEEN ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS WEBSITE, WE ARE JUST WATERING DOWN THE ISSUES WHEN WE CAN REALLY DISCUSS SOMETHINGS. I AM 28 YEARS OLD AND I READ SOME INSIGHTFUL COMMENTS. WE NEED TO BUILD INSTEAD OF TEARING EACH OTHER DOWN.

  • deesac

    I will say this most other cultures have a plain, at what age and were they should be in life. I think we as a culture jump into relationship to fast before we get oursleves financially settle down. If we would think more of education first home second and then start looking for a mate I think this would ease a lot of trouble for black relationships. I seems to me a lot of black women have this agender. I’m a blackman myself but I have to question why is it that so many blackmen after HS are not mature enough to except the responsibility of life.

  • Cookie B.

    Do not let this colume create conflict between us.

  • Cookie B.

    From: Cookie B.

    @ Nut Sack

    STOP IT! GROWN FOLKS ARE TALKING.

  • proudSwirler

    WHY DO BLACK WOMEN COVET BLACK MEN? I GUESS BEING A BABY MOM IS GLAMOUROUS, WHO KNEW?
    LIL WAYNE IS THE TYPICAL BLACK MALE, MINUS THE MONEY. BABY MOM’S BECOMING CLOSE FRIENDS IS NOT FASHIONABLE, IT IS NOT HOW GOD INTEDED! GET WHITE, GET RIGHT!

  • Marquis de Sade

    Sydney

    “Well, count me among the future “exceptions,” lol. As I stated before, despite what you may see in the media, this is not a “blacks-only” issue,”

    Didn’t imply that it was, darlin’…But sein’ as how this is a black blog and the current thread is solely germain to the plight of single black women and their yearnin’ for companionship/marriage….

  • proudSwirler

    @Gymo
    LET ME GIVE YOU SOME FACTS, THE BLACK MEN IN JAIL ARE 100% GUILTY.

  • Gymo

    @proudSwirler –
    @Gymo
    LET ME GIVE YOU SOME FACTS, THE BLACK MEN IN JAIL ARE 100% GUILTY.
    ————-
    I have no idea if they are all guilty and I have no interest in sounding like an Idi0t trying to determine that without evidence.
    I am just telling you that your premise about 60% is wrong.

  • Bre

    I love my black men, But I have to agree the that Haley chic, white men treat black woman with a lot more class and respect than the black man.

    Black men cheat, lie, steal and kill. yes their are some good ones out there, but I still prefer to date respectful, gentle, hardworking, and caring white men.

  • Nut Sack

    From: Nut Sack

    @Cookie B

    STOP IT! GROWN FOLKS ARE TYPING. LOL

  • MzFitt

    They should talk to the White women in my office. They are all single and all they talk about is getting married. It’s a problem with WOMEN, not just BLACK WOMEN.

  • Pray ni%%a, Pray!

    Maybe that are trying to get sisters male order Russian husbands

  • Ms.EJ

    excuse me NOT having a positive relationship with your mother?

    *waves hello* to Sydney, Daywalker and to ALL

  • ( :

    hummmm i can understand some of the point others kinda sound like typical female wining

    I really think its about time they asked the brothers about this “phenomenon and then maybe have an healthy discusion about what the issues really are (because a lot of this I believe are simply stigmas meaning that black folks already give each other the minus 5 just based on stereotypes alone ,expectations placed to high not to say you should have key word healthy standards but in the same aspects maybe you should base your idea mate on such materialistic and shallow virtues, also understand compromise, and Ladies please if you are looking for a good man please make that man respect you and maybe even keep your legs closed for a little while please because easy only means easy cummmm easy go

    and they keep bringing up this marriage rate deal why aren’t they bringing up the divorce rate i find that much more interesting

    and oh yeah those white girlz are laughing at y’all silly azzzes for telling them all ya business in the first place

    just my own personal opinion

  • Gymo

    @Bre –
    Black men cheat, lie, steal and kill. yes their are some good ones out there, but I still prefer to date respectful, gentle, hardworking, and caring white men.
    Bre, you’re a fool, there is bad in every ethnic group, Whites then to be child molesters and serial killers in greater numbers than any other ethnic groups, just ask the FBI.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    I GET APPROACHED BY BLACK MEN ON A DAILY BASIS, ONE TRIED TO TALK TO ME WHEN MY WHITE BOYFRIEND TURNED AROUND, HE GOT KNOCKED OUT. I FELT SORRY FOR HIM FOR 10 SECONDS..AFTER THAT WE LEFT, SO BLACK MEN GET NO LOVE FROM ME!

  • Nut Sack

    For ever no good black men, don’t forget thier is a black woman raising him.

  • Nut Sack

    every

  • http://attackofthenews.blogspot.com Makavelligiga

    Damn im hungry

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    BLACK MEN VERY LOVE BLACK WOMEN THAT IS WHY THE WHITE PLL HATE THIS SH’T THEY AFRAID THAT WE WILL BE THE MAJORITY!

    WHITE MEN ALWAYS WAS JEALOUS TO BLACK MALES!

  • Nut Sack

    Ms. EJ F*UCK this people on this sight you have brains they don’t.

  • Nut Sack

    site

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    BLACK WOMEN LOVE BLACK MEN BECAUSE THEY LIKE PUNISHMENT. TREAT THEM MEAN, KEEP THEM KEEN. BLACK WOMEN DON’T FIND WHITE MEN ATTRACTIVE? THAT’S CRRAAPP, BLACK WOMEN LOVE ROBIN THICKE AND THEY LOVED JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LADIES FIND YOU A WHITE MAN WHO HAS SOUL AND LOVES BLACK CULTURE. YOU WILL GET THE BEST OF BOTH, A GOOD MAN WITH A JOB!

  • Soul Touch

    @ProudSwirl

    You man has anger issues.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Bre
    2/13/10, 20:30:pm
    I love my black men, But I have to agree the that Haley chic, white men treat black woman with a lot more cl***** and respect than the black man.
    ______________________________________________

    You obviously don’t hang out in the right places, and definitely haven’t met the right black men, ma. Otherwise, you’d be singing a much different tune….

  • Who Cares!

    @ Marquis de Sade…. stfu

  • proudSwirler

    @ Soul Touch
    THAT BLACK GUY DESERVED TO GET KNOCKED OUT. HE SAW ME WITH MY MAN AND STILL WANTED TO BE SLICK SO HE GOT KNOCKED OUT, SIMPLE! AND HE IS NOT AGGRESSIVE TO ME BUT HE LIKES TO PROTECT ME BECAUSE HE KNOWS ABOUT THE BIG SCARY BLACK MEN OUT THERE!

  • http://bossip cori

    Black men do not like to marry. Black women do not like to date outside their race. Most black men do not love themselves so why would they date a black women. The media is promoting interacial dating. Another ploy to get rid of the black race. Now that black women are moving on what are the sorry brothers going to do now. All the black men walking around with white women looking like sorry whimps & simps. The strong black mandingo thing is gone it’s all how you doing wanting to sit at m.a.s.s.a table smh!!

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    Hey Ms. EJ, how are you?

    I think I’m stepping out of this thread. Thank you for providing a voice of reason. Have a good night. :)

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    just another program focused on black issues in order to entertain white people.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 20:45:pm
    @Daywalker
    BLACK WOMEN LOVE BLACK MEN BECAUSE THEY LIKE PUNISHMENT. TREAT THEM MEAN, KEEP THEM KEEN. BLACK WOMEN DON’T FIND WHITE MEN ATTRACTIVE? THAT’S CRRAAPP, BLACK WOMEN LOVE ROBIN THICKE AND THEY LOVED JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LADIES FIND YOU A WHITE MAN WHO HAS SOUL AND LOVES BLACK CULTURE. YOU WILL GET THE BEST OF BOTH, A GOOD MAN WITH A JOB!
    _______________________________________________

    The only punishment my lady gets in in the bedroom…Unlike the neanderthal you hooked up with, the men in my family have P-e-n-i-s-e-s, and we use them on women. It’s funny, but women are always more compliant when they get broken off so good that theirn eyes roll back in their heads..And your argument is silly…You named 2 white performers, and I could easily name 30 black ones that sistas would do a flying scissor kick to either of them to get at…And to be honest, a man such as myself doesn’t need to resort to mistreating my woman to get her to do something I want her to…All I need to is let her know that I require her to handle something for me, and it’s a done DA-DA!! And as far as not showing her how much I care?? I can promise you nothing’s further from the case…Matter of fact, everyone where she works was jealous of the flower arrangement I sent her yesterday, and her boss is mad because her man didn’t send her squat!! And did I mention that he’s white, and she’s black??? LOL!!! Nah, But I guess I just did, though…..

  • ( :

    @cori

    Oh yes we do but it is seems like it is such a hard find to find women who understand what they want but also what a man needs it really feels like a majority of the time relationships only one way im a single father and you think its hard to find a responsible loyal man try finding a women who is loyal and responsible because for the most part the only thing I get is a bunch of lip service which aint such a bad thing but it don’t never seem to last to long

  • Ms.EJ

    @DAYWALKER- All is very well and I see the same for you :) I know you will enjoy tomorrow with your love.

    @SYDNEY- Thank you and I’m following you out the thread as well. *grabs coat and keys*

    —————–

    I see that none of the men who seem to think that black women are the worst did NOT RESPOND OR ANSWER THE QUESTION I posted *rubs chin*, therefore it is safe to assume that such things are not utter to their moms, and that the relationship between their mothers is not a positive one, therefore leaving them to lash out towards black women who have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with their childhood trauma. As for those who had a bad, one bad experience with a black woman please do not let that keep you from seeing those black women who are good and the same goes for women with black men. It is so not fair and wrong to punish a black woman or black man for one bad apple. We all get our hearts broken, its called LIFE.

    To ALL Good Night! Happy Valentine’s To ALL

  • Lucas

    If you ask most black woman what they look for in a man here is the list:

    1. Skin tone
    2. Height
    3. Money
    4. Style
    5. Personality

    Not a bad list but three of the four have nothing to do with being a good man, provider, husband/boyfriend. Thats exactly why us black me tend to date outside our race. Dont get me wrong I hope to one day settle down with a sista but I’m not going to try and force it like in the past.

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    Bre u stupid b’tch!

    That is why some brothers not respect black women and sometimes dont want marry them…especially in America!

  • Gymo

    @Bre,

    At least you are not one of those Black women who get upset when Black males choose to marry White females.
    Remember you don’t need to make one ethnic group a villain because you prefer to date another.
    There is bad all around, but since you seem oblivious to the sins of White males, let me reaffirm:
    White males have tended to be domestic bombers.
    Child molesters
    Con Artists
    Wife killers
    Children killers
    Prostitute clients
    Serial killers
    Racist tendencies
    -
    And like any other ethnic group may are also good people.

  • proudSwirler

    @Lucas
    1. Skin tone
    2. Height
    3. Money
    4. Style
    5. Personality<<< WHITE MEN HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, WHITE IS RIGHT!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 20:51:pm
    @ Soul Touch
    THAT BLACK GUY DESERVED TO GET KNOCKED OUT. HE SAW ME WITH MY MAN AND STILL WANTED TO BE SLICK SO HE GOT KNOCKED OUT, SIMPLE! AND HE IS NOT AGGRESSIVE TO ME BUT HE LIKES TO PROTECT ME BECAUSE HE KNOWS ABOUT THE BIG SCARY BLACK MEN OUT THERE!
    _____________________________________________

    Oh yeah…BIG AND SCARY, eh?? So what pray tell was he gonna do? Stab ya with a breadstick?? Perhaps accost you on the way to the lavatory??? Hey, maybe he was gonna slip you a note in your desert?? Either way, it seems as though any man who’s that insecure to the point of hauling off and decking a guy in a restaurant is just a little immature….And in all actuality, why didn’y you tell him that you had a man?? Maybe you were just a little bit flattered, eh??? Or maybe you just wanted to see, “Billy Bob” get all flustered?? Either way, I primarily fault you moreso than him, because if you would have said you weren’t interested, ol’ boy would have probably left you alone. And to be honest, it speaks volumes about your relationship if he can’t trust you to shoot down some guy on your own without getting involved…..

  • Stacey Dee

    I sometimes feel sorry for black women who refuse to try swirling, almost all my black girlfriends who finally gave in are now completely hooked and actually feel guilty because they now know they mostly likely will marry white. I date alot of races , mostly white but I do also date black men when the 1 or 2 I meet every few years meets my requirements..job, personality, no crimminal record, no kids (no kids= 0 baby mama drama), open intelligent mind. I would never rule out marrying a black man because when they are good, they are incredible.

    Not all white men are heros, white men can be just as pigish, sneaky, and untrustworthy, as any race of men, the difference between the two races are that you don’t have to tell a white man to do what’s right by you, or his children with you (not that I have any yet), he may be a d*ck, but he won’t have to be hounded to pay support, or the monthly bills, he is reliable, he will almost never have more than 2 baby mama’s if even 1 and they enjoy exploring places and ideas more. They don’t come with the baggage so many black men do. I know many black men who feel the same way about black women and they would be right.

    Maybe this is more the ‘classes’ of blacks more so than all of us combined. for those of us, like myself who make a good living and have almost all we need, we just naturally have bigger expectations. I grew up poor , but my mom who is black always had a regal, yet delicate way of being. She stressed manners, and education and made us feel we were richer than we were, so I have always felt this way even back when I had nothing at all.

    I just don’t think it’s fair, that just because a black woman is poor and lives in the ghetto that she should limit herself to being a baby mama and not a wife, or someone’s boo instead of his woman. if she lives her life with honor and respect in the true sense, she is more than qualified to reach for any type of man she wants, and should never settle for the dregs left lingering around from the prison system.

    I’d date a brotha who is a cashier at Jack in the box anyday over a thug with a grill and 7 baby mama’s. That sounds corny, but it’s true, as long as that cashier had ambition and worked hard to move in a higher direction and we had much in common I would not care. Some of the most interesting people come from humble beginings.

  • Halle Berry

    OH WELL FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH…KEEP THIS UP GUYS AND BLACK WILL BE HISTORY EVERY MONTH.

  • Halle Berry

    I love how they release in Black History Month…one up for the racists. two for the division (sarcastically speaking)

    Hello wake up

  • Halle Berry

    @proudswirler YOU ARE ONE CRAZY MOFO..LOL

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “The only punishment my lady gets in in the bedroom”<<< TYPICAL BLACK MALE STATEMENT, IF ALL FAILS YOU CAN RELY ON YOUR DYCK, DO BLACK MALES HAVE ANYTHING TO OFFER OTHER THAN HARD DYCK AND BUBBLE GUM. STOP RELYING ON THE MYTH TO GET YOU THROUGH. THAT'S LAME! THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SO MANY FATHERLESS LITTLE BLACK KIDS

  • Bre

    @real black. You are the prime example of why I don’t date black men. Thank you for making my point even more credible.

  • Gymo

    @Bre,

    When you stake your relationship on the color of the person skin, you will eventually become disappointed and disillusioned, then your own identity will be lost, you will then become confused and eventually self-hate will kick in and next you will not see any value in you life, sef-esteem will slip and then sanity slips away like a thief in the night, and there you are left without identity or a reason to love yourself.

  • proudSwirler

    THE BLACK GUY SAW ME HOLDING HANDS WITH MY MAN AND HE STILL WANTED TO PROVE A POINT. MY MAN IS 6’1 AND THE BLACK GUY GOT PUT BACK IN HIS PLACE. HE BELIEVED THE MYTH THAT WHITE MEN ARE WEAK SO HE WENT HOME WITH HIS TEETH IN HIS HANDS. SIMPLE!

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    Bre

    u dont date black men be-coz you ugly as hell just like all b’tches who dating old ugly lil d’ck azz crackers!!

  • proudSwirler

    @ Halle berry
    IM NOT CRAZY IM JUST TRYING TO HELP SISTA’S SEE THE LIGHT…LITERALLY

  • The Rock (Layin The Smack Down On Your Candy @$$)

    I luv my sistas cuz above all cuz they always got our back despite contstantly being disrespected, they will cut a muffa f*cka in a minute if you put down black men…..you are beautiful to The Rock!!!

  • Remembering Black History Month – Rocking the ‘Angela Davis’ look!

    Like Luther Vandross once said and I quote, “If you can’t keep with the one you love, love the one your with!”
    Two dumb russian women and ya’ll are yelling about who can date who. Meanwhile, AMC has a special 20th Anniversary showing of Goodfellas and ya’ll running your mouths missing it.

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    Bre

    plus good looking cracker dont want black women, if it’s not about fake azz f’ck!!

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    BOTTOM LINE. I LOVE BLACK WOMAN….

    BUT THEY ARE TOO PICKY WITH EVERYTHING. EVERYBODY KNOW YOU HAVE TO LET THINGS GO OR GIVE UP A FEW CERTAIN QUALITIES TO COMPROMISE WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE A RELATIONSHIP WORK.

    PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

    LIKE Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators said,

    ALLOT OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE MATERIALISTIC, CONFRONTATIONAL, ARGUMENTIVE, MOUTHY AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE MOST OF THE TIME.

    I NEVER GOT WITH A WHITE CHIC THOUGH, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY *MOST* OF THE BLACK GUYS I KNOW DATE THEM.

    BESIDES HEARING THEY ARE BETTER IN BED, THEY SAY THEY ARE JUST NICER WOMEN.

    I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THIS, I’M JUST TAKING WHAT SOME OF MY BLACK FRIENDS SAY.

    U CHOOSE WHAT IS TRUE

  • Hmmmm….

    Seems to me that too many people on here have the same agenda, and it’s being repeated on just about all Urban blogs or any site dedicated to black women. BLACK WOMEN date/marry WHITE Men. LET ME TELL YOU SONS OF B.I.T.C.H.S ONE THING, STILL WATERS RUN DEEP. Black women don’t want/like white men,and only the weak willed/assimilated black woman will fall for this.

  • malcolm x and marcus garvey MLK harriet tubman did so much for this stupid generation!

    african americans are and is a big disgrace to the world! what a disgrace ! no wonder why white people ran trough you a bunch of house negros.

    Rotten negros like african americans has opportunities but they argue about datin a white man! if black women and black men have to be aknowledge by white women and white men then its sad REAL SAD! because you stupid people think white people are on a higher level! but i guess you people are house negro

    african american women are the least desired women for white man to date im sorry they even date chinks before you! they rather date a woman from an african country
    who do you people think potray african american women as ANGRY BLACK WOMEN? its not black men its white MEN!

  • Bre

    @Real: So I have to be ugly to date a white man?? LOL Wow.

    @Gymo: I’m not “staking” my relationship on skin color, but on the fact of how i’m treated and I connect with the individual, and again this is my preference.

    Black women, don’t think you have to settle with a black man to be happy. You can find happiness with any race.

    Goodnight

  • proudSwirler

    ALLOT OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE MATERIALISTIC, CONFRONTATIONAL, ARGUMENTIVE, MOUTHY AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE MOST OF THE TIME. <<<<THAT IS WHAT YOUR BLACK MEN THINK OF YOU LADIES, TREASURED BY WHITE MEN OR TRASHED BY BLACK MEN? YOU DECIDE

  • malcolm x and marcus garvey MLK harriet tubman did so much for this stupid generation!

    chiinks isnt a bad word

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    “First of all this is the Real Halle Berry. Im trying to put my sisters on to some real advice. Find you a good white/spanish/mexican. Men who are family orientated. Black dont know what to do with a strong black woman.”_

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    @ HALLIE BERRIE.

    I DON’T KNOW ABOUT BEING A STRONG BLACK WOMAN, BUT I KNOW HALLIE BERRIE IS CRAZY ONE!!!lol

    I STILL DON’T KNOW WHY PEOPLE THINK SHE IS FINE.

    I LIKE BLACK WOMEN BUT AGAIN..

    HALLIE BERRY IS ONE UGLY WOMAN. I DON’T CARE IF SHE WITH A WHITE MAN OR NOT, SHE JUST FLAT OUT TO ME ISN’T ATTRACTIVE AT ALL.

    I STILL DON’T GET IT…

    RAY-J’S MZ. BERRY LOOK BETTER THAN THE REAL ONE.lol

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 21:29:pm
    ALLOT OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE MATERIALISTIC, CONFRONTATIONAL, ARGUMENTIVE, MOUTHY AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE MOST OF THE TIME. <<<<THAT IS WHAT YOUR BLACK MEN THINK OF YOU LADIES, TREASURED BY WHITE MEN OR TRASHED BY BLACK MEN? YOU DECIDE
    _______________________________________________

    Well, when ya think about it, This whole post you've been all of those things….I'm just sayin…..

  • malcolm x and marcus garvey MLK harriet tubman did so much for this stupid generation!

    african americans are and is a big disgrace to the world! what a disgrace ! no wonder why white people ran trough you a bunch of house negros.

    Rotten negros like african americans has opportunities but they argue about datin a white man! if black women and black men have to be aknowledge by white women and white men then its sad REAL SAD! because you stupid people think white people are on a higher level! but i guess you people are house negro

    african american women are the least desired women for white man to date im sorry they even date *****s before you! they rather date a woman from an african country
    if white men are so much better why have there been news about 2 different men busting black women hair off? yeah right they are better they are equal with any race all the races are the same

    who do you people think potray african american women as ANGRY BLACK WOMEN? its not black men its white MEN!

  • Gymo

    LET’S BURST THE ILLUSION BUBBLE.
    For men:
    All white women are not what you see on TV, there are those in various areas of America who drinks and fight with their men and even shoot at them.
    They smoke Meth, they take other drugs, they become fat and not pleasant to hear nor look at.

    For Women:
    There are White men who are wife beaters, wife killers and secret hom0sexuals, they use drugs they cheat on their wives and will even say racist things to their Black wives/girlfriend.
    ——-
    For All:
    Let’s not demonize any ethnic group, they all have their problems.
    Then there are White men and Black men who work hard and all they ask is for a woman who loves them and will treat them well.
    People should marry whomever they love and wish to spend the rest of their life with, no matter the color or culture.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    I just want to return to say that if anyone is wondering how stories like this enter the mainstream media, they just have to look at threads like this — Just as you are reading this blog, others, including reporters and members of the media, are as well. The stereotypes that some of you are listing, i.e.:

    – “Black men aren’t good fathers/providers/partners”
    – “Black women are materialistic, have attitudes, confrontational”

    and Et cetera are all in a forum for public consumption, as are other sites that showcase similar vitriol between brothers and sisters. Some of you may wish to ask yourselves, do you already hold pre-conceived notions about your counterparts that naturally lead to the expectation of a negative encounter/experience with a black man/woman? Are you still holding residual feelings/distrust from a past relationship that ended badly that affect your feelings towards the opposite sex? Do you subconsciously attach more positive attributes/expectations to non-black men/women while discounting the value of those who look like you?

    You can choose to continue to propagate the notion that there is a widening schism between black men and women, but there are consequences — both internal and external — for doing so.

  • proudSwirler

    @ Daywalker
    MODERN DAY CONTRACEPTION IS AZZ F,U,C,K,ING? ANOTHER INTELLIGENT BLACK MALE. WELL DONE, WHAT DID THE WHITE MAN KNOW WHEN HE CREATED C,O,N,D,O,MS?
    AND YOU CAN CALL ME ARGUMENTATIVE, I CALL IT A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • NUCCA

    ALL THE NAPPY HEADED H.OES NEED TO STFU. GMEN U SEEM LIKE A LITTLE IGNANT AZZ NIGLET. WASH UR DARK AND DURRTY AFRICAN DOO DOO HOLE.

    I GOT HELLA SWAMPAZZ

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    “Just want to return to say that if anyone is wondering how stories like this enter the mainstream media.”

    “Black women are materialistic, have attitudes, confrontational”

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    @ Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    I DIDN’T HEAR THAT FROM THE MEDIA.. THAT IS EXPERIENCE.

  • frankiestage

    Many things have gone wrong between men and women over the last 40 years, but a biggie, IMO, was the loss of femininity. Matter of fact I call femininity a lost art, cause it seems so many women know so little about it. When women decided—at some point in the early days of the feminist movement—that they were going to demonstrate just how “strong” they could be, they adopted the masculine model of strength: tough, not gonna cry (right, Mary?), will beat the man at his own game, etc. But femininity is a much more effective way to ply and manipulate men (in a good way), and is therefore much stronger than the masculine approach. My fiancee is a feminist, but her femininity is intact too, and she has me doing her bidding every day.

  • malcolm x and marcus garvey MLK harriet tubman did so much for this stupid generation!

    african americans are and is a big disgrace to the world! what a disgrace ! no wonder why white people ran trough you a bunch of house negros.

    Rotten negros like african americans has opportunities but they argue about datin a white man! if black women and black men have to be aknowledge by white women and white men then its sad REAL SAD! because you stupid people think white people are on a higher level! but i guess you people are house negro

    african american women are the least desired women for white man to date im sorry they even date *****s before you! they rather date a woman from an african country
    who do you people think potray african american women as ANGRY BLACK WOMEN? its not black men its white MEN!

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    fake azz NUCCA

    ur gay or ur homo?? f’ck off!!!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 21:40:pm
    @ Daywalker
    MODERN DAY CONTRACEPTION IS AZZ F,U,C,K,ING? ANOTHER INTELLIGENT BLACK MALE. WELL DONE, WHAT DID THE WHITE MAN KNOW WHEN HE CREATED C,O,N,D,O,MS?
    AND YOU CAN CALL ME ARGUMENTATIVE, I CALL IT A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. GET WHITE GET RIGHT!
    ______________________________________________

    I hate to break this to you, but the first actual condoms were used in Africa….Egypt actually….So know what you speak of before you address me, eh???

  • malcolm x and marcus garvey MLK harriet tubman did so much for this stupid generation!

    and oh my look at lebron james and chris paul post only 20 comments? women only want to comment on reggay bush but not the biggest stars in nba that have fully black kids and wifes? black women BIASED? YES!

  • proudSwirler

    I PERSONALLY KNOW 6 WHITE MEN LOOKING FOR SEXI BLACK WOMEN BUT NO,BLACK WOMEN DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT. MY LIFE HAS IMPROVED SINCE I STARTED DATING WHITE. YOU WILL KNOW HOW A WOMAN SHOULD BE TREATED AND YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK! THEY HAVE JOBS AND NO CHILDREN, THEY ARE ALL GOOD LOOKING

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    White men creating condoms?? Yeah, right!! They were too busy effing sheep to put their intestines to use as a contraceptive aid….GET BLACK, GET FACTS!!!

  • proudSwirler

    CONDOMS WERE USED IN AFRICA BECAUSE THE KIND, WHITE MAN TRIED TO STOP AIDS SPREADING. THE WHITE’S CREATED CONDOMS.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    TYRANT wrote,

    THE PROBLEM WITH A LOT OF BLACK WOMEN, BESIDES THE FACT THAT THEY BASH BLACK MEN, IS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF BLACK WOMEN LOVE TO DATE THUGS, AND ONCE THE THUG FINISHES HUMPING AND DUMPING HER, SHE GOES ON OPRAH OR TYRA SCREAMING SHE WANTS A WHITE MAN BECAUSE THEY TREAT HER SO MUCH BETTER. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NICE GUYS WHO WOULD’VE LOVED, RESPECTED, WORSHIPED, AND ADORED THAT BLACK WOMAN THAT SHE STEPPED ON TO GET TO HER PRECIOUS THUG? SORRY, BUT BLACK WOMEN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CHOICES THEY MAKE JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.”
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    @TYRANT

    co-signed!!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 21:50:pm
    I PERSONALLY KNOW 6 WHITE MEN LOOKING FOR SEXI BLACK WOMEN BUT NO,BLACK WOMEN DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT. MY LIFE HAS IMPROVED SINCE I STARTED DATING WHITE. YOU WILL KNOW HOW A WOMAN SHOULD BE TREATED AND YOU WILL NEVER LOOK BACK! THEY HAVE JOBS AND NO CHILDREN, THEY ARE ALL GOOD LOOKING
    _______________________________________________

    And why is that?? Wanna know why?? I’ll tellya!! It’s because even the most busted brother is better looking than some of the most charismatic white dudes!!! Don’t believe me?? OK, then explain Flavor Flav getting 3 different seasons of his show on VH1 then??? I rest my case….

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK WOMEN DATE THUGS BECAUSE 95% OF BLACK MEN ARE THUGS. THEY HAD NO FATHER FIGURE AT HOME BECAUSE HE LEFT, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW A WOMAN SHOULD BE TREATED. PAIN IS NOT LOVE, GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • Halle Berry

    @Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    You can’t be serious. Im the Real Halle Berry. Every BLACK MAN dream. You just man because I dont want your trifling azz. All I did for You people and this is how you repay me. Black Men show some respect to your sisters. I mean really. It the month we should be remembering

    Sisters Stay UP

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 21:53:pm
    CONDOMS WERE USED IN AFRICA BECAUSE THE KIND, WHITE MAN TRIED TO STOP AIDS SPREADING. THE WHITE’S CREATED CONDOMS.
    _______________________________________________

    Once again, you are misinformed….Paintings found in Egypt depict that condom was used by Egyptians thousands of years back some time before 950 B.C. The use of condoms was not only found in Egypt, but some paintings from Europe also show the same thing, however the paintings in Europe are not that old as far as the time-line concerned that is related to Egyptian condom history, but it can be considered the earliest note of condom use in the modern times.

    WHITE MEN CREATING THEM?? I THINK NOT!!!!

  • LA Woman

    Why can’t two non Black women discuss this topic? It’s something that is relevant in America. The last time I checked, Black women are also Americans.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    Another poster on this blog, who happens to be non-black, observed recently that the relationship between some black men and black women seems to be abusive. This is what all of this internal battling symbolizes to the outside world — abuse. It’s something to think about.

  • proudSwirler

    Flavor Flav HAD 3 DIFFERENT SERIES BECAUSE HE IS THE TYPICAL, IDIOTIC BLACK MALE. HE LIVES UP TO THE IMAGE OF A BLACK MALE THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD LIKES TO LAUGH AT.A GROWN MAN WITH A BIG CLOCK AROUND HIS NECK, YOU WOULD ONLY SEE A BLACK MALE ENGAGE IN THAT TYPE OF FOOLISIHNESS. BLACKS LIKE TO CLAIM EVERY DAMN THING..WHITES CREATED CONDOMS AND BLACK HAPPEN TO BE THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE NEEDING THEM.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 21:57:pm
    BLACK WOMEN DATE THUGS BECAUSE 95% OF BLACK MEN ARE THUGS. THEY HAD NO FATHER FIGURE AT HOME BECAUSE HE LEFT, THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW A WOMAN SHOULD BE TREATED. PAIN IS NOT LOVE, GET WHITE GET RIGHT!
    ______________________________________________

    Speak for yourself, I was raised in a home with both my father and mother being present, and my parents are still very much alive, and very much in love….Just because your father left or someone else’s did, doesn’t mean that everyone else suffered the same fate. And you can ask my woman right now how she feels about me, and she’ll say that there isn’t a better man on the planet than me in a heartbeat with the exception of possiblt her father, so miss me with that BS……

  • Ms.EJ

    @MR UPPERCUTTS- “ALLOT OF BLACK WOMEN HAVE A TENDENCY TO BE MATERIALISTIC, CONFRONTATIONAL, ARGUMENTIVE, MOUTHY AND HAVE A BAD ATTITUDE MOST OF THE TIME.”

    It often makes me wonder why ALOT of your friends state such a TYPICAL AND STEREOTYPE towards black women and THOSE black men in general who state such judgements. Surely, these men have not dated or encountered EVERY SINGLE BLACK WOMAN in the world and NOR did you say such, HOWEVER if the women they have come across have displayed such behavior have you’ve ever thought or even asked if they have caused such a behavior? meaning MAYBE their approach was in a way that caused a negative reaction or MAYBE they said something that offended the black women they encountered? because most PEOPLE not just black women do not act in way with being provoked. I am extremely nice, and I’ve ran across some brothas who felt that since I was very nice that I was a “push over” and when I recgonized that some of these brothas were trying to handle me in a way that I felt was not respectful I spoke on it. I would tell them, YES, I am nice, but that does not give you the right to speak to me or demand things of me that either go against my morals or made me uncomfortable. And, as soon as I nicely expressed my feelings I was deemed to have an attitude or “I thought you were nice” statements. I was nice when some thought they could have their way, but stuck and all those things you listed when I objected. Everyone has or should have boundaries.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    @ Hallie Berry

    “You can’t be serious. Im the Real Halle Berry. Every BLACK MAN dream. You just man because I dont want your trifling azz. All I did for You people and this is how you repay me. Black Men show some respect to your sisters. I mean really.”

    4 REAL HALLIE BERRY IS STRAIGHT UP BUSTED.. 4 REAL..

    I STILL DON’T SEE IT!!

    “EVERY BLACK MANS DREAM”, U MUST BE BUGGING. SHE AIN’T MY DREAM. I NEVER THOUGHT SHE WAS ATTRACTIVE. 4 REAL NEVER..

    I SEE CHICS IN THE STREET WHO LOOK BETTER THAN HALLIE. MAYBE ITS JUST ME, I DON’T THINK SHE FINE AT ALLLLLLLLL.

    HALLIE JUST ANOTHER ORDINARY, ORDINARY, EXTRA ORDINARY BLACK CHIC. NOTHING SPECIAL ABOUT HER IN MY OPINION.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 22:05:pm
    Flavor Flav HAD 3 DIFFERENT SERIES BECAUSE HE IS THE TYPICAL, IDIOTIC BLACK MALE. HE LIVES UP TO THE IMAGE OF A BLACK MALE THAT THE REST OF THE WORLD LIKES TO LAUGH AT.A GROWN MAN WITH A BIG CLOCK AROUND HIS NECK, YOU WOULD ONLY SEE A BLACK MALE ENGAGE IN THAT TYPE OF FOOLISIHNESS. BLACKS LIKE TO CLAIM EVERY DAMN THING..WHITES CREATED CONDOMS AND BLACK HAPPEN TO BE THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE NEEDING THEM.
    _______________________________________________

    Really?? So I suppose the BEASTIE BOYS wearing Volkswagen emblems around their neck doesn’t count then??? And I also suppose that condoms being used as early as 950 BC don’t count either, eh??? So whenever someone provides actual proof to discredit you, you ignore it?? Nice strategy, even though you only serve to maker yourself look like more of an idiot than you already are….

  • NUCCA

    @GMAN

    YOU CAN’T READ NAGR!! STOP TRYING TO USE BIG WORDS THEY’RE NOT FOR YOU.

    THE WHITE B.ITCHES HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD REGARDING THE DISEASES AND PROBLEMS WITH BLACK BI.TCHES.

  • NUCCA

    UGLY FILTHY CU.NTS

  • Ms.EJ

    And what is with this jump on the bandwagon saying that black women date thugs? to even make such an assessment or documentation would mean that those who say such things have personally screened every black man that a black woman was dating which is IMPOSSIBLE. And, where are some who say such things living in, around or at? I personally, have not seen any black women in my upbringining and area date THUGS not ONE. They are either dating, married to or boyfriend/girlfriend with intelligent black men who have either finished college or currently attending college or just good me who are active in church or their communities. Since when does one become a thug expert? *scratches head*

  • Mz. rihanna

    black women in general seem to have a lot of problems they need to work out. Also it doesn’t help that these women are fat and unattractive and more picky than they’re able to be.

  • Shammockery

    I got a better topic for Russians. Why do WHITE WOMEN love BLACK MEN? LMAO is it for WHITE MENS shortcomings?

    LMFAO!!!!! Now thats a topic.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Shammockery
    2/13/10, 22:18:pm
    I got a better topic for Russians. Why do WHITE WOMEN love BLACK MEN? LMAO is it for WHITE MENS shortcomings?

    LMFAO!!!!! Now thats a topic.
    _______________________________________________

    Old white men producing the show wouldn’t touch that topic with a 10 foot pole!!! (No pun intended)

  • Marquis de Sade

    Ms.EJ

    Google “BLACK WOMEN AND THUGS”. Trust, it’ll take you months to read all the articles, academic dissertations, personal accounts and etc. Trust, people aren’t just pullin’ this (alleged) stereotype out of their a.s.s.e.s.

  • proudSwirler

    BEASTIE BOYS – 1970′S, FLAVOR FLAV-2010, WHITE MEN KNOW WHEN TO GROWN UP AND PUT THE CLOCKS DOWN. FLAV IS IN HE’S 40s, NO COMPARISON. BLACKS LIKE TO TAKE EVERYTHING, THE WHITE MAN CREATED CONTRACEPTION. IF BLACKS CREATED CONDOMS, WHY IS AIDS SO RAMPANT IN AFRICA, THE MOTHERLAND?

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK WOMEN LIKE THUGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. LOOKING FOR A BLACK MAN WHO IS NOT A THUG, IS LIKE LOOKING FOR A WHITE WOMAN WITH AN AFRO, EXTREMELY RARE. WHITE IS RIGHT!

  • CheckMeOut!!!!

    I live in the furthest away city in the USA Fairbanks, Alaska and even all the way up here BW are the same. They tend to have attitudes and show disinterest unless you’re of a Thug Mentality.
    I choose to date outside my race because I refuse to date someone who wants to be with a Thug. Just go to any club and you can see what men who don’t want to date BW see. And again up here it’s no diffrent. Just go and check it out, it’s obvious

  • what a stupid generation ! to think malcolm and mlk died for these stupid house negros

    african americans are and is a big disgrace to the world! what a disgrace ! no wonder why white people ran trough you a bunch of house negros.

    Rotten negros like african americans has opportunities but they argue about datin a white man! if black women and black men have to be aknowledge by white women and white men then its sad REAL SAD! because you stupid people think white people are on a higher level! but i guess you people are house negro

    african american women are the least desired women for white man to date im sorry they even date *****s before you! they rather date a woman from an african country
    if white men are so much better why have there been news about 2 different men busting black women hair off? yeah right they are better they are equal with any race all the races are the same

    who do you people think potray african american women as ANGRY BLACK WOMEN? its not black men its white MEN!

  • that one girl

    The issue is finding a black man that will date a black women. As stated earlier when black men get to the top they don’t tend to date black women. Wheather their successful or not.

  • TYRANT

    MS. EJ

    MY PREFERENCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND WILL ALWAYS BE BLACK WOMEN. NOT THAT OTHER RACES OF WOMEN AREN’T ATTRACTIVE, BUT IN MY EYES BLACK WOMEN ARE JUST SEXIER,STRONGER-YES I’M A BLACK MAN WHO LOVES THE STRENGTH OF BLACK WOMEN, MORE BEAUTIFUL, AND WHEN YOU ADD THAT FACT THAT BLACK WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO UNDERSTAND ME BECAUSE OF OUR SHARED HISTORY THEN YOU CAN SEE WHY I PREFER THEM.

    THE ONE THING I JUST CAN’T STAND IS WHEN BLACK WOMEN GO ON YOU TUBE AND/OR BLOG ON MESSAGE BOARDS, NOT JUST PUTTING DOWN BLACK MEN, BUT GIVING A GAZILLION REASONS WHY THEY WOULD NEVER DATE/MARRY A BLACK MAN, AS IF THEY’VE DATED EVERY SINGLE BLACK MAN IN NOT ONLY THE UNITED STATES, BUT THE WORLD.

    I’VE HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH BLACK WOMEN AND I’VE HAD HORRIBLE RELATIONSHIPS WITH BLACK WOMEN, BUT EVEN WITH ALL THE HURT, PAIN, AND HEART BREAK I’VE EXPERIENCED, I CAN’T SEE MYSELF FIXING MY FACE TO LUMP ALL BLACK WOMEN INTO ONE STRAIT JACKET.

    BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO DATE/MARRY WHOMEVER THEY CHOOSE, BUT WHEN A BLACK WOMAN HAS TO BASH BLACK MEN JUST TO SHOW HOW MUCH SHE LOVES WHITE MEN, THEN NOT ONLY IS SHE A WHITE SUPREMACIST WITH ISSUES, BUT A FOOL AS WELL.

  • Ms.EJ

    Anyhow, I just came back to see if anyone decided to answer the question I posted earlier and its official. SMH.

    At the end of the day I love black men, and their are many black men who love black women. I personally have no problems with a black man dating a non-black woman. The issue only arises when it is done soley off of: stereotypes, colorism and self-hatred. Overall, if a black meets a non-black woman who he clicked with and found true love then God bless him or them both :) the same applies to black women with a non-black man.

  • CheckMeOut!!!!

    Another thing. Stop blaming black men for every plight of black women. I’ve never been in jail nor do I have kids and baby momas. I choose not to partake in that. Black women, you have the choice too.

    You know when you’re dating a thug. If you’d ask questions you’d know if he’s good father material. With that info, stop have kids with these fools. Thugs may be male but they’re not Men!! Don’t blame them, blame yourself for not keeping your legs closed or for not using birth control.

    Bottom line Black Women, take responsibilty for yourself and stop putting it all on non-Thug Black Men.

  • NUCCA

    I WISH EVERYBODY COULD SNIFF MY STANKY A.SSHOLE.

    WHO WANTS A WOMAN WITH EXHAUST PIPES FOR NOSTRILS, AN ATTITUDE, AND THE LOOK OF A GORILLA?

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    that one girl
    2/13/10, 22:34:pm
    The issue is finding a black man that will date a black women. As stated earlier when black men get to the top they don’t tend to date black women. Wheather their successful or not.
    _______________________________________________

    Rubbish…I’m an Engineer, and my current girlfriend is black. So I guess there goes that theory, eh???

  • Miss All That!!

    Black women are not SUBMISSIVE!

  • proudSwirler

    @MS. EJ
    IF YOU DON’T DATE THUGS, THAT MUST MEAN THAT YOU HAD A FATHER FIGURE, YOU ARE EXTREMELY RARE. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IT WAS A SHOCK STATEMENT IF A BLACK PERSON SAID “MY DAD”, EVERYONE WOULD STARE IN AMAZEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS NATURAL TO SAY “MY MOM”. NEVER THE WHITE KIDS, JUST THE BLACK!

  • Miss All That!!

    We are not FEMININE ENOUGH!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 22:26:pm
    BLACK WOMEN LIKE THUGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. LOOKING FOR A BLACK MAN WHO IS NOT A THUG, IS LIKE LOOKING FOR A WHITE WOMAN WITH AN AFRO, EXTREMELY RARE. WHITE IS RIGHT!
    ______________________________________________

    Apparently you’ve never been arount too many Jewish white women, have you???? Their shyt is frizzier than some of the sistas I’ve known…..

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    DAMN IS IT REALLY THAT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO ADMIT THAT THE WHITES INVENTED CONTRACEPTION? YOU KNOW IT DEEP DOWN, WHITES INVENT AND BLACKS FOLLOW. SIMPLE!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 22:44:pm
    @MS. EJ
    IF YOU DON’T DATE THUGS, THAT MUST MEAN THAT YOU HAD A FATHER FIGURE, YOU ARE EXTREMELY RARE. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER IT WAS A SHOCK STATEMENT IF A BLACK PERSON SAID “MY DAD”, EVERYONE WOULD STARE IN AMAZEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS NATURAL TO SAY “MY MOM”. NEVER THE WHITE KIDS, JUST THE BLACK!
    _______________________________________________

    Oh, I got it…So because your shrew of a mother wasn’t woman enouth to keep her man at home, all black men must be the same, eh??? GOTCHA!! And as long as I got ya, might I recommend you seek council from some one with a comfortable couch, and a lotta degrees on their wall???? Thanks!! :smile:

  • Ms.EJ

    @PROUDSWIRLES- I must admit when I first attended college and throughout even outside of school EVERYONE would say “you are rare. I always hear the mentioning of the mother first”, but it was my father (both my parents remarried) My father (RIP DADDY) was an AWESOME MAN! I was truly blessed to have been born to such a man, a father. I was extremely close to my father, and for the most part he raised me. I am by far not rich, but I grew up in houses and nice neighborhoods, maybe that is wh I hadn’t seen any black women dating thugs. I can barley deal with a loud talking person let alone a thug. No mam. Its sad that it is rare, and you are not the first or will be the last to say that.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 22:49:pm
    @Daywalker
    DAMN IS IT REALLY THAT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO ADMIT THAT THE WHITES INVENTED CONTRACEPTION? YOU KNOW IT DEEP DOWN, WHITES INVENT AND BLACKS FOLLOW. SIMPLE!
    ______________________________________________

    I’ll admit it when you prove me wrong…Till then, I’ll attempt to contain the ignorance you’ve brought on here, because you know I’m right…..

  • proudSwirler

    WHITES INVENT THE TRAIN, BLACKS JUMP ON IT! THAT’S THE WAY IT’S ALWAYS BEEN.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    I DON’T NEED TO SEE A COUNSELLOR, WHEN MY WHITE BOYFRIEND KNOCKED OUT THAT BLACK MAN, THAT WAS MY THERAPY.

  • Ms.EJ

    SO what can we do to better the relationships between black men and black women?

  • MS. EJ STOP LYING!

    CIVIL ENGINEER MY AZZ. HES PROLLY A PART TIME CONSTRUCTION WORKER WITH 2 STRIKES THAT LIVES IN A HALF WAY HOUSE FOR THUGS. STOP LYING.

  • proudSwirler

    @MS.EJ
    IT IS LUCKY THAT YOU HAD THE EXPERIENCE U DID. I BELIEVE THAT WOMEN WHO ARE FATHERLESS ARE THE THUG LOVERS. YET THE BLACK MALES WANT TO THROW SHADE AT THE BLACK WOMEN WHO PICKED UP THE PIECES AND CALL THEM “BITTER” AND SAY THEY HAVE “ATTITUDES”. HAVE YOU EVER DATED WHITE, MOST BLACK WOMEN HAVE NEVER TRIED WHITE SO THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE MISSING.

  • Ms.EJ

    @MS. EJ STOP LYING!- I am not going to go back and forth with you, because at the end of the day as long as I’ve made right my wrongs with God then that is all that matters. I am not in the business to make anyone agree or believe anything that I state. Also, I encourage ANYONE who has been attacked, stalked or harrassed to pursue legal help that is what someone should do. I’m proud that unlike many women who file false claims against a man, to only dismiss it that I followed through pro se for my protection. Their is nothing wrong with that :) God bless.

  • Dawn

    There is just one thing to say to ALL women, find someone who respects, cares, loves and is loyal to you and the color of their skin will never be an issue.

  • proudSwirler

    Black civilization? BLACKS WERE STILL WIPING THEIR AZZES WITH TREES UNTIL THE WHITE MAN INTRODUCED THEM TO SOFTER MATERIALS. LETS BE REAL!

  • Ms.EJ

    @PROUDSWIRLER- I see. I think its a good thing for everyone to be open to date outside his or her race, but for the right reasons. I still have love for black men and overall everyone desire happiness.

  • Archie

    DON’T LET WHITE PEOPLE SEPARATE US!!!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @proudSwirler:

    MOST BLACK WOMEN HAVE NEVER TRIED WHITE SO THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE MISSING.
    _______________________________________________

    What’s that?? A bunch of dog/baloney smelling men who enjoy humping sheep?? I think the average sista would pazz….. :roll:

  • proudSwirler

    @ Daywalker,
    ONE L OR TWO LL’S THE BLACK MAN STILL GOT PUT TO SLEEP FOR A WHILE SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 23:08:pm
    Black civilization? BLACKS WERE STILL WIPING THEIR AZZES WITH TREES UNTIL THE WHITE MAN INTRODUCED THEM TO SOFTER MATERIALS. LETS BE REAL!
    ______________________________________________

    You mean like their hands??? :?

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    And to be honest, The Chinese invented toilet paper, not the White man, Dumbazz!!

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “bunch of dog/baloney smelling men”
    YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SMELL? BLACK MEN HAVE THE MUSTY SMELL OF FAILURE WHILST WHITE MEN HAVE THE SWEET SCENT OF SUCCESS

  • Ms.EJ

    @DAYWALKER- So what could we do to help or improve the relationship between the black man and the black woman?

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    NO I MEANT TREES, AS IN LEAVES

  • Now the whole world knows…

    Great…now the whole world knows that there are only a handful of desirable black men to marry.

    Some sisters regardless of being open to marrying outside the race, will just not never marry. Hard to accept, but that is the reality.

  • proudSwirler

    ILLITERATE BUT I STILL GOT A WHITE MAN WHO IS TALL, SEXI, RICH, KIND, FUNNY AND WOULD PROTECT ME FROM THE LIKES OF YOU! I MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT

  • Ms.EJ

    @MARQUIS DE SADE- Awww…I hope that is not the only solution :( . I think we can work it out some way, some how. I prefer brothas, but I remain open, because we’ve all had bad and good relationships with the same race, with me that wa with brothas and I still prefer brothas.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @ Ms.EJ
    2/13/10, 23:15:pm
    @DAYWALKER- So what could we do to help or improve the relationship between the black man and the black woman?
    _______________________________________________

    Personally, I think that both black men and black women need to realize that we are much stronger united than divided…That being said, the men and women need to commence going to church together, and worshiping together to find a strong bont amongst themselves in god…With God’s influence, and through his faith anything can be accomplished, so that would be a good start. I also think that black men need to have a national system set up to help them find jobs, and mentor them into becoming proud productive citizens, help them find employment, and also assist them in things such as domestic issues they may have as opposed to their getting upset and lashing out as some men tend to do when faced with domestic issues….In short, Help brothers become better brothers, and show them that they can succeed in life without resorting to becoming drug dealers, pimps, etc….And the same thing would be applicable for black women….In short, teach both sexes to learn to effectively communicate as opposed to saying the first thing that crosses their minds, because as we all know, your mouth can say things that your heart may not necessarily feel in anger…..

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 23:21:pm
    ILLITERATE BUT I STILL GOT A WHITE MAN WHO IS TALL, SEXI, RICH, KIND, FUNNY AND WOULD PROTECT ME FROM THE LIKES OF YOU! I MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT
    _______________________________________________

    Actually, he ain’t gotta protect you from me, cause you can bet your sweet azz that you have nothing I want…In short, DON’T FLATTER YOURSELF.

  • proudSwirler

    @Marquis
    I AGREE, THE ANSWER IS TO SWIRL, BLACK WOMEN WITH WHITE MEN JUST LIKE IT SHOULD BE! GET WHITE GET RIGHT! OR BE A BABY MOMS. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE MY SISTERS SETTLE FOR DUST WHEN THEY COULD HAVE GOLD!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    bont=bond(TYPO)

  • Marquis de Sade

    Lady EJ

    Oh, i’m sure one day we’ll get it together, just not in our life time…But look on the bright side, though, in America, the “ONE DROP” rule still applies, thus ensurin’ that the black race will survive, but will just be a little lighter with wavy hair. :lol:

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 23:29:pm
    @Marquis
    I AGREE, THE ANSWER IS TO SWIRL, BLACK WOMEN WITH WHITE MEN JUST LIKE IT SHOULD BE! GET WHITE GET RIGHT! OR BE A BABY MOMS. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE MY SISTERS SETTLE FOR DUST WHEN THEY COULD HAVE GOLD!
    _______________________________________________

    All the more reason not to get with white dudes, because they have a reputation for not marrying sistas…..LOL!!!!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @Ms.EJ:
    2/13/10, 23:32:pm
    _______________________________________________

    Thanks… :smile:

  • Ms.EJ

    @MSD- LOL- stop!, but I sadly do agree not in our life time :(

    @DAYWALKER- Again, your comment was so right on!

    HAPPY VALENTINE’S DAY TO ALL!!! Good night everyone and God Bless-Oh and stay warm too and careful on the icy roads (if it snowing where you are at) :)

    Night.

  • proudSwirler

    GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES. IF YOU GET A WHITE MAN YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING MARRIED INCREASES BY 400%

  • Marquis de Sade

    “proudSwirler
    2/13/10, 23:40:pm

    GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES. IF YOU GET A WHITE MAN YOUR CHANCES OF GETTING MARRIED INCREASES BY 400%”

    Then by that rationale, their chances of bein’ divorced within the year will increase by over 50%. Kinda’ defeats da’ purpose, eh?

  • hmm

    How are they Russian with NO ACCENT?!

  • proudSwirler

    IF THE WOMEN IN THE D,O,C,U,M,E,NTARY WOULD DATE WHITE, THEY WOULD NOT BE OLD AND LONELY. GET WHITE GET RIGHT

  • proudSwirler

    @Marquis de sade
    BLACK WOMEN/WHITE MEN MARRIAGES LAST LONGER THAN BLACK MEN/WOMEN MARRIAGES. BLACK MEN ARE NOT GETTING MARRIED ANYWAY SO IT’S TIME FOR BLACK WOMEN TO MOVE ON. STOP WAITING ON A BLACK PRINCE TO SAVE YOU WOMEN, IT WON’T HAPPEN.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Foruthly=fourthly(TYPO)

  • proudSwirler

    @Daydreamer
    YOUR POST MADE ME LMAO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA. I DEAL WITH GUYS LIKE YOU DAILY. THEY THINK THEY CAN RULE OVER ANY FEMALE, BUT I PUT THEM STRAIGHT BACK DOWN WHERE THEY BELONG. IF I DON’T PUT THEM BACK DOWN, MY WHITE MAN AND HIS FRIENDS WILL. BLACK MEN LIKE YOU, THINK THEY KNOW SOMETHING I DONT. THE TRUTH IS THAT I WOULD NOT EVEN BREATHE IN THE SAME ROOM AS A BLACK MAN IF I DIDN’T HAVE TO. I DON’T HAVE DADDY ISSUES, I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY THAT I DIDN’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANOTHER WORTHLESS BLACK MALE. BLACK MEN LIKE YOU WANT BLACK FEMALES TO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE NOT WANTED BY OTHER RACES. THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, IM TRYING TO LET SISTA’S SEE WHAT THE LIKES OF YOU DON’T WANT THEM TO!

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    IF MY POSTS MAKE AT LEAST 1 BLACK FEMALE THINK TWICE ABOUT WHITE MEN I WILL BE HAPPY. AND NO I DON’T HAVE A RING YET, BUT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT GETTING MARRIED. ACTUALLY I AM THE ONE WANTING TO WAIT. HE WOULD GET MARRIED TODAY IF I WANTED TO, SO STOP SAYING THAT WHITE MEN DON’T MARRY BLACK WOMEN, THAT IS CCRRAAPP. ARE BLACK MEN RUSHING TO GET MARRIED? OR ARE THEY HAVING BABY’S LEFT, RIGHT AND CENTRE?

  • proudSwirler

    @Mrs. Rance
    I PERSONALLY KNOW AT LEAST 6 WHITE MEN THAT WOULD LOVE TO DATE BLACK WOMEN, BUT THEY SAY BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT OPEN TO THEM.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    I DON’T DATE WHITE FOR THE “SHOCK VALUE”, THAT IS JUST THE CHERRY ON TOP. AN ADDED BONUS IF YOU WILL

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    U CALL IT CRAZY, MY WHITE PRINCE WOULD SAY I AM SPONTANEOUS, FUN, CREATIVE AND AN ALL AROUND PLEASURE TO BE WITH AND UNDER

  • Truth

    What both women (and other single black women) have in common is that they are overweight. If you get mad at this, it’s probably because you are overweight and single as well. Black women need to take better care of themselves. I’m a black man and if I can find time to eat healthy and hit the gym than so can you. No level of education, employment, etc. can substitute from the fact that men are visual creatures and they want a women who is well kept (meaning not overweight). Sorry.

  • b

    Most of it is social economics, not finding a person that wants you and looks. Go to china. they done killed so many of their women they have a 20 million female shortage. GO! Make a ton of Tiger Woods.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “he for damn sure ain’t gonna stretch out the walls like I could”
    I WILL GIVE YOU THAT ONE, YOU ARE RIGHT. A WHITE MAN COULD NEVER STRETCH OUT THE WALLS LIKE YOU COULD. BLACK MEN ARE VERY GOOD AT IMPREGNATING MULTIPLE WOMEN, MULTIPLE TIMES SO YES THEY ARE VERY GOOD AT STRETCHING WALLS, CONSTANT CHILDBIRTH WILL DO THAT TO A WOMAN.

  • proudSwirler

    @PROUD
    IM SPREADING THE WORD TO BLACK WOMEN SO WHY WOULD I GO TO A COUNTRY MUSIC SITE? BECAUSE I DON’T AGREE WITH THE TYPICAL “BLACK MEN ALMIGHTY” MENTALITY,IM NOT A BLACK WOMAN?. IF I WAS SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT WHITE MEN I BET YOU WOULD VALUE MY VIEWS. YOU ARE A CONTROLLING BLACK MAN. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT!

  • z

    abc got high ratings for similar episodes hence new trend.
    it’s also a way of diffrentiating the ‘average’ black couple from the obamas so whites can feel better about themselves.

  • Mock Rock Star

    The only way to fix this problem is for black women to start dating/and having civil unions with other black women…U have so much in common…U’re missing the perfect opportunity to be “trendsetters”

  • CheckMeOut!!!!

    @PROUDSWIRLER IS A WHITE MAN TROLL!!!!

    LMAO, You’re right!! proudSwiler is a Troll!! I was just about to say that. This White dude has been riling up everyone for hours. HA HA, he’s playing all of you!!
    Daywalker, Stop daydreaming, this white dude has played you long enough!!! SMMFH

  • http://www.blackwiz.biz tiray

    You stupid goofballs!

    LOOK AT THESE WOMEN! THEY LOOK BAD!THAT’S WHY THEY CAN’T FIND A MAN…Trust me.If they looked like anything WORTH anything,they wouldn’t have a problem.
    Stop with the: Blk men don’t measure up crap! lol! TOO FUNNY!
    When you’re attractive..you make the rules!

    Too funny!

    Moral of this story! If you want a great guy..be a great gal!

    out!

  • proudSwirler

    CheckMeOut!!!!
    2/13/10, 22:29:pm
    I live in the furthest away city in the USA Fairbanks, Alaska and even all the way up here BW are the same. They tend to have attitudes and show disinterest unless you’re of a Thug Mentality.
    I choose to date outside my race because I refuse to date someone who wants to be with a Thug. Just go to any club and you can see what men who don’t want to date BW see. And again up here it’s no diffrent. Just go and check it out, it’s obvious<<<< SO IT'S OK FOR YOU TO BASH BLACK WOMEN BUT WHEN I PUT MY VIEWS OUT THERE I MUST BE A TROLL??? YOU ARE ANOTHER FOOLISH BLACK MAN WHO ALWAYS HAS TO BE RIGHT. I CAN IMAGINE YOUR EGO IS HURT RIGHT NOW.. IM SORRY ABOUT THAT BUT IM A BLACK WOMAN AND I DATE WHITE MEN. DEAL WITH IT!

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Just a theory:

    When young black women realize that the thugs and cl@$$ clowns that they find so attractive, don’t usually grow up to be as successful as the smart, nice guys that they consider to be boring, things will change.

    When young black women in general start being attracted to smart and successful young black men, there will be more smart and successful young black men.

    As long as young black women are attracted to low achievers, we will have a race plagued by low achievers.

    Some young black women pass over the good young black men and when those black women are not so young any more… then they want the good black men. Problem with that is… those good black men have often moved on to women who appreciated them back when those particular young black women didn’t.

    Of course these ideas are general but observed and echoed. And the exceptions don’t tend to matter as long as the problem continues to grow.

    So if you are the exception. Then fine but that doesn’t change the general.

  • Black King

    Some of you are so Daft in here, Proud swirler is a Troll, because no one could love being black and say all the things she has said. Some of you are daft for even arguing with her. She has made numerous erroneous statements which she seemed to have pulled out of her ass. She continues to say that her boyfriend is white as if he is an object rather than a person. If she isn’t a troll, than she is a broken black woman. No real black woman would deem whites superior to blacks.

    Whites did not create anything till 1000 years ago. Their language and writing they did not create they borrowed. Mathematics comes from the Arabs. The first race to invent the gun was Arabs. Rocket fuel and gun powder was also invented by the Chinese.

    Swirler, has to be a troll, because no black woman would want to come on here and ask black women to go after white males from a woman who states that whites invent everything while blacks get a free ride.

    All these erroneous facts that Swirler was stating can be found in any college or high school history book.

    Swirler you were wrong on who invented the condom or contraceptives.

    Egyptian tribesmen used sheaths for ritual reasons and to protect themselves against insect bites, injury and infection in 1350 – 1220 BC. The first condom was indeed invented by Egyptians.

    The problem is that your blinded by self hate for your own kind, including black women. You cant expect black women to follow or see your statement as intelligent when you are also insulting them with all your white is right idiocy. Swirler, are you are a broken black woman who life has broken and no you hate your skin color so much that you deem white skin as superior. You cant love your white male because you continue to label him your white man rather than your boyfriend which tells me that you are not attractive to white males but white skin.

    In every sentence you mention he is white as if your trying validate something rather than seeing him as a person who happens to be white. Or you could be a troll.

  • Black King

    ERR attracted, sorry,

    To be honest this has to be a troll job, or has some serious self hate issues. So much hate that she would say that whites invent everything and blacks just sit around and do nothing.

    If that isn’t self hate I dont know what is. I actually feel sorry for you swirler, you seem to be in real pain, rather than happy with your life with your white boyfriend who supposedly knocked out a black male. Which I think you made up.

    Swirler if you are really happy than it is not showing in your posts, what is showing is a lot of pain and sorrow and aggression. I dont know what man could find you attractive in that state. Before black women will follow you to white males you need to respect their race first.

    NO proud black woman thinks whites are superior to blacks, nor does one think that whites invented everything while blacks picked cotton.

  • Black King

    Pardon me on my spelling and grammar, hopefully I got my message across. Stay black and proud

  • natasha

    I used to date black men, I am dating white men now, they do much better !!!!!! white is not white, my man is half italian half algerian (north africa) and white ;) and i love him so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • natasha

    RUSSIAN AND EASTERN EUROPEAN GIRLS ARE HOT!! HAVE U EVER SEEN THEM BEFORE?????

    GO TO EUROPE! THEY ARE FREAKIN HOTTTTTTTT OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    IM HALF BLACK AND DATE EASTERN EUROPEAN GIRLS BUT I LIKE BLACK GIRLS TOO ITS JUST MOST OF BLACK GIRLS ARE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER RACES

  • http://author2be.wordpress.com author2be

    Yawn.

  • box69

    Black people wake up, this is just another prime example of the media trying to get us to hate and attack each other, these two women here are your typical uppity types,of that 44% percent of unmarried black women,I would be willing to bet you that most of them have been in long term relationships before and at least half of them probably already have kids, so these numbers are very deceiving, so one of the major reasons that these women don’t have somebody is because they are still looking for Mr Perfect, someone who represent the
    idea situation for them, when they don’t represent the idea situation, just because you have a college degree, that does not make you the idea woman and also what the media is not telling you, is that their are plenty of
    educated white females, who have blue collar husbands who earn less money than them, but somehow they get together and have great lives together. And just for the record, MOST BLACK MEN, DO HAVE JOBS, DID GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL,DO NOT HAVE DISEASES, AND HAVE NOT EVER BEEN TO JAIL. That is an outrageous thing to be said about us. I am not saying that there are not any serious problems in the black community, but some of this stuff has been overblown by the media, the same media who have always attacked the black male, because if you destroy the black male, you destroy the black family, a lot of black female overlook alot of decent black men, because they have become to shallow and superficial. So both black males and black females need to step up and get it together before it’s to late.

  • TYRANT

    @proudswirler
    I DON’T KNOW WHETHER YOU’RE MALE OR FEMALE, BUT ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN, YOU’RE A SELF-HATING, BLACK MALE HATING, WHITE SUPREMACIST MORON. TELL ME, ARE ALL THE BLACK MEN IN YOUR FAMILY THUGS, AND IF SO, WHY HAVEN’T YOU SPOKEN ABOUT THAT.

    IT’S IDIOTS, LIKE YOU, THAT GIVE IR DATING/MARRIAGE A BAD RAP BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEONE LOOKS AT AN IR COUPLE THEY EITHER SEE A BLACK MAN WHO HATES BLACK WOMEN OR A BLACK WOMAN-IN THIS CASE THAT WOULD BE YOU-WHO HATES BLACK MEN. MORONS, LIKE YOU, ARE WELL KNOWN FOR BELIEVING THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LOVE A WHITE MAN IS BY BASHING BLACK MEN IN THE PROCESS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE SUGGESTED THAT YOU NEED THERAPY…I DON’T THINK THERAPY IS GOING TO WORK FOR YOU, BECAUSE YOU’RE SO FAR PASS STUPID IT WOULD BE INEFFECTIVE. THE ONLY THING THAT’S GOING TO WORK FOR YOU IS SUICIDE BECAUSE YOU NEED THAT OPTION MORE THAN ANYONE.

    HAVE A NICE DAY, TROLL.

  • BelleOfTheBall

    LMAO @ DontBeScurred.

    Seal is “Burnt Turtle”? LOL LOL LOL

  • READ THIS

    EVERYTHING STARTS WITH KNOWLEDGE.THE OPPRESSOR HAS GIVEN UN THE WRONG KNOWLEDGE AND WE PASS THIS ON SUBCONSIOUSLY TO THE NEXT GENERATION.

    I’M NOT AMAZED WHY WE ARE LIVING THIS WAY.BUT IF WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE HOW THIS ALL START IT…I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE BLACKMAN WILL LOVE HIS BLACKWOMAN AND THE BLACKWOMAN HER BLACKMAN.

    PEACE

  • Wildcherry666

    Dating someone of another race is not the answer. I was married to a white man for 12 years and we have two bi-racial children. He cheated on me with a white chick in my house and now I have a felony because I beat both of them down when I found out they disrespected me. He now has a baby with this chick and he is no longer with her either. If black women think its just black men doing grimy shit, you are sadly mistaken. Now I am with a black man and I will never again date outside of my race. Yeah, black men have problems but i rather deal with what i do know than deal with the unknown with white folks. Their shyt is extra.

  • cerebalblak

    I blame black male. all de shame and disrespect for black people always begin and end with the black male. without black males the black race would be perfect . nobody can be perfect so black men is the flaw in our crown. which other race can boast the smartest, hardworking , cleverest and strongest women in a population regardless of where they start from. but which other race have their men desire every other race women except their own. which other race abandon their women and children in such large numbers. which other race think how thye look and how they dress is so much more important than supporting their culture and heritage.
    Lord black men is another cross we have to bear.

  • Nickki B

    I am a dark-skinned, bi-racial woman and I dont have a hard time finding a man…My mom taught me just to find someone that loves and respects me…black, white, orange or whatever…So I don’t discriminate…LOVE IS LOVE PPL!!

  • Joseph

    Cerebalbak, and the rest of cartoon black females in here, now I know why black men jump ship to other races. Black men are the reason you self hating black women have a crown.

    I dont get the whole self hate and cross we have to bear. Black women dont own black men, you black women are free to date whoever you want. The black race would be perfect without black males, Cerbal, is a crock of sh1t, because it is the black males who changed the image of the black race.

    It is black men that are mimicked in society, not black women. Those white boys are mimicking black men when you see them with there baggy pants and wannabe black style. It is black men who made it cool for other races to view the black race as cool and hip, not black women. Understand the dynamics of the world and you will understand that black men hold the most patents for inventions amongst the black race. Look up Invention holders among the black race and you will see very little women who own a patent on an invention.

    This isn’t an indictment of black women but without black men you wouldn’t have gotten your freedom. Do some black men need to grow up,yes, but indicting the whole race is comical.

    Again black men have more patents for inventions than our women so you are the cross we have to bear, because men want what the women want. Our race is predicated on being cool rather than smart, so all the black men try to portray that image because that is what gets you girls. I know a young black kid who doesn’t go out unless he is freshly dipped in Sean john, his reasoning to me is that he does it to pick up black women, they like the stylish black man over the smart black man.

    Get a grip and call a spade a spade,

  • MochaDreams

    This thread appears to have turned into a vat of ignorance, so I am not going to waste too much of my time up in here. I do have one question though… why is that the marriage statistics for ambitious, career-driven (“alpha” as some may describe it) white women are not much different (and some cases better) than those of their less ambitious counterparts? Why do people conclude that a Black woman’s ambition is some type of flaw and a hindrance to her love life, when ambition hasn’t gotten in the way of other races of women in THIS country? Yeah, you can try to mention what they do in other countries, or what people heavily ingrained in their culture may do here, but for anyone else in this country… this is AMERICA! Why are Black women being ridiculed for taking advantage of the same opportunities our white counterparts are given?

  • CeeCee

    I am not surprised by this. They have a low fertility rate in Russia so this type of news would interest its citizens.

    It is a similar situation in the UK where women far out number men. They have news segments about “finding” love all the time.

  • proudSwirler

    A BLACK FEMALE WHO HAS SEEN THE BETTER SIDE OF LIFE AND DOESN’T WANT TO BE A BABY MOM = TROLL. BLACK WOMEN, GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • Cynthia

    This is not new to us maybe news the international community. Plus, what these reporters are saying is true. We as black women need to open our eyes. Stop limiting yourself to one type of man. Look outside your comfort zone.

  • proudSwirler

    @ joseph
    “Black men are the reason you self hating black women have a crown”<<<<<< SPARE ME THE CRAP. THE MORE YOU MOVE UP IN LIFE THE LESS BLACK MEN YOU SEE, UNLESS YOU ARE RAPPERS OR PLAY SPORTS. YOUR WHOLE POST IS CRAP,

  • proudSwirler

    @Joseph
    VISIT YOUR LOCAL JAIL THEN TELL ME HOW BLACK MEN ARE GIVING US OUR “CROWN”

  • Spill It!

    THEY TOOK OUT THE S.L.U.T.

  • Chocolicity

    All Sorry black men should be locked up and the cells needs to be set on fire.

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    @Chocolicity, Cynthia, proudSwirler, Nickki B

    F’ck all you whining stupid black wh0res! Please go get your old ugly white lil d’ck and stop complaining!

  • Joseph

    Proud Swirler, the higher up you go, the less you see of any race other than white. Who cares what someone does to become rich. they still are rich. The goal of life is in America is to be rich, we get our diplomas to become successful. Whether or not he or she is a rapper or baller makes no difference, the goal is to attain that prize.

    If you need a white male to be proud of yourself than you are all ready lost. I dont hate whites, I actually see what they are doing and enjoy it.

    White males to this day continue to sell bleaching products to other races in an attempt to cash in on self hate which is being done in Asia. Asians and Indians out there are now bleaching there skin, in a vain attempt to become white or what they deem as the social equivalent of beauty.

    An Asian coworker told me that the vision of beauty is an Asian woman with white features. This debate isnt about why blacks are so bad, this debate is why you think white males are better looking than black males. It is your preference, which is perfeclty fine, but if black males were the supposed social definition of beauty I doubt we would be even talking about this.

    This stems down to what you think is beautiful or handsome. Your not looking for a good man, your looking for the equivalent to what your mind has told you is a good looking man. Which is fine, but to throw every black male under the bus is comedy.

    The real problem is that the black race is too dependent on whites, and seeing from your comments it holds true. In every comment you state your white male and how he makes you feel. your Dependent, You talk about how black women should get white males, dependent on the white race.

    Why cant black women get Asian or Hispanic males? Why is white right rather than Asians, Indians and Hispanics. Oh, is it because you dont deem Asian males as handsome. No other race is quieter and treats women better than Asians, but this isn’t about who treats who the best. It is about what you deem as handsome and beautiful because if it was about who treats who the best you would include, Indians, Asians and Hispanics in your category.

  • real black is chocolate f’ck fake azz bullsh’t!!!! real nikka aka Gmen

    I will never date black women after whites cuz it’s just disgusting to me, only pure sisters!

  • Joseph

    Asian males treat women very well, why you dont put them in your category. Indian males treat women well as well, why are they not in your category.

    Im waiting for your answer Proud swirler.

  • God

    My balls smell like gorganzola cheese.

  • Ree

    @White Devil

    You’re probably right. I worked in Russia for a year, and they fall all over themselves trying to date black women. That’s why so many Russian women tan too much and dye their hair black, to look more exotic.

    The media is trying make it seem like we’re this unfortunate group, so more men will think something’s wrong with us.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Just a theory:

    The law of attraction:

    When young black women realize that the thugs and cl@$$ clowns that they find so attractive, don’t usually grow up to be as successful as the smart, nice guys that they consider to be boring, things will change.
    When young black women in general start being attracted to smart and successful young black men, there will be more smart and successful young black men.
    As long as young black women are attracted to low achievers, we will have a race plagued by low achievers.
    Some young black women p***** over the good young black men and when those black women are not so young any more… then they want the good black men. Problem with that is… those good black men have often moved on to women who appreciated them back when those particular young black women didn’t.
    Of course these ideas are general but observed and echoed. And the exceptions don’t tend to matter as long as the problem continues to grow.
    So if you are the exception. Then fine but that doesn’t change the general.

  • thatbrutha

    @PROUDSWIRLER as Sir LAURENCE FISHBURNE said in school daze “WAKE UP”
    YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE ISSUES. I would have liked to have met you between a few of my whitegirl friends.

    WHY RUSSIA, why not you two Ruskies talk about how you have to go to the BAHAMAS to get DUG OUT!
    WHY NOT TALK ABOUT HOW YOU LOVE to FEEL THAT BLACK MAN gloveless.

    LEAVE our sistahs alone. TRANSLATE THIS

    “ITS A BLACK THING”

  • Melanie

    @Stacey Dee
    well said and I agree 100%..My black man just left me without a word of good bye – I bet you 100.00 he will end up with a non black woman..I need to move on and not give him a second thought..You are so right – we give these black men who do not want us too much POWER…

  • thatbrutha

    Melanie,
    Sorry for dropping your tail. If you would have gobbled a little more, and not been so trifling maybe we would be together.
    Well I’m with Katlynn now and she just kicks it and she gobbles.
    We are going to farmers market to get some organic green beans with our tofu dinner tonight at home and low key.

  • kellz_88

    Black American men are TRASH well 90 percent of them are in my opinion so disrespectful.ghetto and talk down about black women. they rather run to the lighter skinned women who has green eyes and curly hair of white or spanish descent then try to disgrace black women when they are with one .. smh Black Americans as a Race in general are a disappointment and im glad that these White Russians although they look mixed with Black realize how trashy they really are.

  • Meee

    They seem rather COY, arrogant, like they have it all (the russians). Black men need to smarten the eff up tho. You’ll never see a white woman with a poor black man..unless shes fat.

  • proudSwirler

    @ Joseph
    I WILL NOT DATE ASIAN OR INDIAN MEN BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO POWER OR STATUS. IF I WANTED TO REMAIN AT THE B,O,T,T,O,M OF THE LADDER, I WOULD DATE BLACK MEN. WHITES ARE THE MAJORITY AND THEY OWN EVERYTHING THAT IS RIGHT. BLACK MEN WILL CONTINUE TO UNDER ACHIEVE IN LIFE, SO I CHOOSE TO LOOK DOWN ON THEM WHILE I AM AT THE TOP WITH MY WHITE PRINCE.

  • proudSwirler

    LADIES IF YOU WANT TO MOVE UP IN LIFE, DATE WHITE..GET RIGHT. LEAVE BLACK MALES TO THUG IT OUT ON THE STREETS AND IN JAIL. IF YOU DATE WHITE U WILL AUTOMATICALLY IMPROVE YOUR LIFE CHANCES

  • Joseph

    So, in essence you are not dating a white male for love, you are dating a white male for status. Again, you are dependent on whites, You are contradicting yourself swirl, you first say that white men are better because they treat you better and now you claim that you date them for status,

    Your facts are off a bit, Asian males in particular are on top of the food chain right now in Asia and America. An Asian American male on median will make more than a white male financially. They get better grades and upon leaving college are more sought after in the workplace.

    Your not attracted to Asians, which is fine, but your contradicting yourself with the statement you made earlier.

    But again there is no difference between you or a prostitute because you are with a man for status. You are like I stated earlier, very dependent on the white race in general. You seem fixated on there status as a race more so than the character of them. If you were not you would tell black women to get with Asian and Indian men as well, because they treat women far better than white males. When i brought up that fact, you change your story to you like the Status, which i dont believe. Your just fixated on their whiteness.

    Your doing the same thing white women do with black athletes, they are with them for financial status.

  • Joseph

    I agree with you though, that women should start marrying for status and financial gain, but not based on race. There are plenty of men of all races who are could raise there financial status as well as there social status.

    You say your white prince, which tells me that there is more to this story. In every sentence you continue to tell everyone that you have a white boyfriend rather than a boyfriend who is white. You praise him just for being white rather than merit.

    But again you put a very high premium on whiteness. when in fact they are losing the race to Asians and other ethnic groups. What they stole from the world will come back to them.

    I agree with you that women should marry for wealth and status, you will not have a better life but you will have more money and a better chance at having a happier life.

    Its hard to take you seriously Swirl when you only add white males to this equation and disregard every other racial group. Your facts and your statements just aren’t factually correct, because on median Asian males are more sought after in the workplace and treat women better.

    But now your changing your story to you date white men for status, before it was that they treat you better.

    There is something more to this story than you are letting on, do you hate being black Swirl. Do you envy white people more than your own and would you rather be a white woman than a black woman?

    I’m trying to delve your mind to see what is conflicting here.

  • faundyb

    I SPOKE ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY ON ANOTHER SITE HOWEVER IT PISSED ME OFF BC EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE DOING STORIES ABOUT BLACK WOMEN AND THE SHORTAGE OF BLACK MEN! NO ONE ASKS A CHINESE OR WHITE WOMAN WHAT KIND OF MAN DO THEY WANT SO WHY IS IT SO QUESTIONABLE FOR A BLACK WOMAN?! THE MEDIA WORKS FOR THE ILLUMINATI AND IS PUSHING THEIR AGENDA HOWEVER IT WILL NOT WORK BC A BLACK WOMAN HAS STANDARDS AND WILL NOT CHANGE NO MATTER HOW MUCH BRAINWASHING “THEY” PUT ON US!

  • http://charlyndria.blogspot.com/ Ms.Caribbean

    Seriously why is everyone so concerned about what Black people are doing now? With all of these special interest stories about us. This is the 50th report about Black women being single I’ve seen in the the last year or two. I’m a 19 year old Black Latina in college and I date all types of guys, Black, White, Latino, Asian. I generally prefer White and Latino men the most. Men are all the same. There are some White guys who are azzzwholes and there are some Black guys who are prince charming. I hope that one day everyone can find that special person for them. I think its time for Black women to start opening up more to other races. It’s okay to date other races of men, they are no different from Black men. But hey it’s nothing wrong with only liking Black men. That’s what some people prefer.

  • http://bossip Don’t believe the hype

    A.S.S.umption

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    “kellz_88

    2/14/10, 11:30:am

    Black American men are TRASH well 90 percent of them are in my opinion so disrespectful.ghetto and talk down about black women. they rather run to the lighter skinned women who has green eyes and curly hair of white or spanish descent then try to disgrace black women when they are with one .. smh Black Americans as a Race in general are a disappointment and im glad that these White Russians although they look mixed with Black realize how trashy they really are.”
    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    hey,hey that was ROUGH.. i like blk girls, but some are a little too demanding at times not willing to compromise with their laundry list of demands for a “perfect man”.. I’m sure your very attractive kellz and I’m sorry you feel that way, saying we are “ALL TRASH”

  • ALFRED

    Yes it would be nice if sistas opened up to other races and leave black men alone to do what they do.

    So that they can let the brothas breath a bit, damn its like a landmine in here.

  • gas african americans look at how they believe the white media

    faundyb@your are so right but these stupid black women and men will believe everything

  • Lauren

    The fact that White woman are reporting on this story is disturbing…. but I agree with black men, majority black women are too damn agressive and always lay blame on the men for there emotional issues. Everyday I walk around and I see sistas with straight bad attitudes for no reason. My question is like what’s your freaking deal? I am a black woman and I see absolutley nothing wrong with being submissive I mean damn you are a woman let him be a man. Stop trying to wear the pants in the damn relationship. Also it wouldnt hurt to learn how to shut the hell up sometimes. Oh and before some of you crazy women start I have a man and you don’t so keep that in mind before you comment.

  • proudSwirler

    @ Joseph
    OK, LET ME PUT IT LIKE THIS…I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT COMES WITH DATING A WHITE MAN. THE STATUS, WEALTH, THE WAY HE TREATS ME, THE PRIDE I FEEL WHEN I AM WITH HIM, THE LOOK ON BLACK MEN’S FACES. I LOVE EVERYTHING, IF I WASN’T DATING HIM I WOULD FIND ANOTHER WHITE MALE. AND I DO LOVE MYSELF BECAUSE MY BOYFRIEND LIKES BLACK WOMEN, SO IF I WASN’T BLACK HE WOULDN’T DATE ME. SO YES I LOVE MYSELF VERY MUCH. WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR I SMILE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I HAVE IMPROVED MY QUALITY OF LIFE. DATING INDIAN AND ASIAN MALES IS NOT MUCH OF A STEP UP FROM BLACK MEN. THAT IS WHY I ADVISE BLACK WOMEN TO DATE WHITE, GET RIGHT!

  • ni99as are stupid

    sistas, the club is the wrong place to find a man. I for one don’t talk to any woman that frequents the club.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    @ proudSwirler

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________

    LOL WE ALL KNOW YOUR LYING SO JUST QUIT WITH THE “I NEED TO PROVE I’M TELLING THE TRUTH” STUFF.

  • Lauren

    @ProudSwirler How can you be proud to look in the mirror when you are talking down on your race. Sounds straight ignorant to me so that makes you no different from these dumb black men in here praising these white woman. people self hatred is real we are seeing it now.

  • Joseph

    The problem isn’t black men swirl, the problem is you. You are one of those black women that have a lot of inner emotional problems that has not come to grips with it, you almost sound immature.

    You should be content with your man, who happens to be white.

    If you were indeed happy you wouldnt care what THE LOOK ON BLACK MEN’S FACES were. Its almost like immaturity on your part,you should be content with him and just him, not the status of what he makes you feel good and socially accepted.

    You actually sound like some white women I know who date black men. They say the same thing that you say, that they love the look that black women give them when they are with there men. Almost as if it is a spite and vindictive game of look at me. In your case your vindictive game is targeted at black males not white women.

    You cant be truly happy if you are still harboring ill will towards black males, you have to let it go and go on with your life. I as a black male am happy that you found a good man which all black women should do, but you need to sit back and let go of this pent up frustration you have about black males. Just reading your comments makes me see that you need validation from whites to make your life better, it seems that you have this immature reaction when a black man sees you with your boyfriend which is another sign of trouble.

    You shouldnt have to have someone on your arm to make you feel important. That’s not love baby girl, if you truly love this dude you need to let go of all this immaturity you are dealing with. Its like your trying to get attention from those black males who treated you badly, when you say that you smile when a black man looks your way when you are with your boyfriend. Kids do this, not adults.

    Swirl , I love you, as a black man, I love that you are happy. Your a beautiful black woman who should be happy.

    Maybe that is the problem, maybe no black man has told you that they love you in your life.

    I as a black male love your nose and everything that makes you, you. I love your eyes swirl, and I love your beautiful brown lips and love everything that comes with you being beautiful black woman.

    There is no woman on earth that could replace black women, you women are the best and you know it. Keep that in mind, next time, black males look at you, they are looking because you are beautiful to them and precious to them.

    ROFL, I am actually smitten with this one fellas

    Swirl, hopefully you can see that not all of us are bad or the majority of us are decent.

  • that one girl

    @Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)
    In your case it might be true but generally and statisically speaking it’s not and as we all know numbers don’t lie but people sure as hell do.

  • Lisa

    LADIES, LISTEN UP! Don’t fall prey to all of this negativity about us being single and unable to find a mate. All of it is to make you think that there’s something wrong with you, make you depressed, and as if you will never be able to find a man. AIN’T NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU! In God’s time, He will send you your Adam. It might not be tomorrow, next month, or even next year, but know that your man is on his way. So take this Valentine’s Day to learn to love yourself, so that way, when your Adam comes, you will be ready! Forget all of this crap about “why we are single, why Black men/women date white folks (LET THEM, that’s THEIR ISSUE, NOT YOURS). We are the hottest group of women because we are strong…we raise kids alone, we hold down our communities, we are the matriarchs, and we are BEAUTIFUL!

  • Lauren

    @Proudswirler Interesting….. I see the problem now hunny you need to seek some serious counseling. You are racist and that lame excuse you made for being with that white man well you didn’t say love soooooo I hope you get help I’m going to pray for you.

  • Lauren

    @ Joseph preach brother!

  • lalala

    Who cares what the Russians think…The men here are able to custom order the women from over there…have them shipped over here and make them their wives. At least black women haven’t stooped that low.

  • Lauren

    @Proudswirler I have a good black man who is fighting for ignorant ppl like you right now as we speak and wouldn’t trade him for the world. On a serious note they do have counseling for your “problem”, what your saying right now is that love is not the reason you married that white man hate for black men is.

  • Reign

    Everywhere I go, I find as many “other” women single as I do Black women. It just shows that the world has NO business without Black people business…nobody cares about anything until it’s related to Black people. We make this world move and groove…our walk, our talk, our creativity, our dress, our style, our culture, nothing means anything to anybody until there’s Black involvement…The energy Black people emit is felt All Over The World and everybody wants a part of it…good or bad! Black people have the same issues as others…of course, Black people’s problems are magnified

  • proudSwirler

    @Lauren
    I DO NOT NEED COUNSELING, I GET THERAPY DAILY. WHEN I TURN DOWN BLACK MEN THAT’S THERAPY, WHEN I TELL THEM I HAVE A WHITE BOYFRIEND (THERAPY),
    WHEN I HOLD MY BOYFRIENDS HAND (THERAPY),
    WHEN I AM TREATED LIKE A QUEEN BY MY WHITE BOYFRIEND (THERAPY), WHEN I CONVINCE BLACK WOMEN TO DATE WHITE MEN (THERAPY), WHEN MY BOYFRIEND KNOCKED OUT A BLACK GUY(THERAPY).
    SO AS YOU CAN SEE I GET MORE THAN ENOUGH COUNSELING

  • Lauren

    @proudswirler Damn you must have had some really bad experiences I hope you get help very soon because as I said before sista you need it.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    @
    proudSwirler

    “HOW CAN I BE PROUD TO LOOK IT THE MIRROR” IT’S SIMPLE REALLY BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE A DYCK. I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH BLACK WOMEN, I LOVE MY MOM AND MY SISTERS. I CAN’T STAND BLACK MALES AND THAT INCLUDES MY DAD AND MY BROTHERS. SIMPLE
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    WOW!!! you are a truly BITTER black woman.lol ya very angry i can see.

    Going on and on with your lies is funny because WE CAN ALL SEE PAST IT

    We can see the real you. A very, very discouraged woman.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    You cant be truly happy if you are still harboring ill will towards black males, you have to let it go and go on with your life.”

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________@ Joseph

    She is not happy and cant let this topic go, BECAUSE SHE IS LYING!!!vlol

  • proudSwirler

    @Lauren
    I DON’T NEED HELP, I AM HAPPIER THAN EVER. I WANT MY FELLOW BLACK SISTAS TO BE HAPPY, IS THAT WRONG? I DON’T WANT THEM TO BE BABY MOMS WHEN THEY DESERVE AND COULD HAVE SO MUCH BETTER. WHY HAVE AVERAGE WHEN YOU COULD THE BEST

  • Angel

    Why are they so concern?

  • proudSwirler

    @Mr.uPPeR CuTTs
    YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT, YOU LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF BLACK GUY I MEET DAILY. YOU MAY THINK I AM FAKE, BUT WHEN I TELL BLACK GUYS TO GET OUT OF MY FACE BECAUSE I DO NOT LIKE THEM, THAT IS VERY REAL! OR WHEN THEY GIVE ME SALTY LOOKS WHEN I AM WITH MY WHITE BOYFRIEND, THAT IS VERY REAL! OR WHEN THE BLACK GUY GOT MAN-HANDLED BY MY BOYFRIEND, THE PAIN WAS VERY REAL FOR HIM!

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK WOMEN I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH ONE QUESTION, WHAT DO BLACK MEN HAVE TO OFFER THAT WHITE MEN DON’T?. EXCLUDING THE MYTH ABOUT P,E,N,I,S SIZE. WHEN YOU MINUS THE BLACK MEN WHO ARE GAY, THUGS, IN JAIL, OR THE ONES THAT ALREADY HAVE CHILDREN…THERE ARE NONE LEFT. BLACK MEN DO NOT INVENT ANYTHING, THEY ARE FOLLOWERS. I HAVE A KIND, WEALTHY, TALL, SEXI WHITE MALE WHO HAS A GOOD JOB AND TAKES VERY GOOD CARE OF ME. HE TREATS ME LIKE A JEWEL, U DESERVE THIS TO SO GET WHITE, GET RIGHT.
    MY FINAL THOUGHT FOR THE BLACK MALES…. GET A JOB AND STOP DONATING S,P,E,R,M EVERYWHERE! STATUS + POWER = WHITE MALES

  • anonymous

    This has become a national joke. I think it is time that black women stop blaming black men for all of their problems. Black women are the only women who will go on national television and throw their own men under the bus. Other women are laughing at them. Black women will not stop blaming brothers for all of their problems. Sometimes the problem can be you.

  • PURE NEGRO

    WANT A GOOD MAN?
    GO BUY A TREADMILL……
    BLACK WOMEN NEED TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT

  • bluemorpho

    @gymo

    Let me put an end to this mis-information carnival you all have going on.
    the facts are that there are about 40% of Black males who have had some form of contact with the penal system – in prison, on parole, have been arrested or have been released from prison.

    —————————-
    The fact still remains that a significant number of say even that 40% have committed no crime or are being punished more harshly than whites who have committed the same crime.

  • Cookie B.

    YOU ALL HAVE A HAPPY AND INFORMATIVE BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

  • bluemorpho

    @ anonymous

    This has become a national joke. I think it is time that black women stop blaming black men for all of their problems. Black women are the only women who will go on national television and throw their own men under the bus. Other women are laughing at them. Black women will not stop blaming brothers for all of their problems. Sometimes the problem can be you.

    ——————————-

    And black men are the only ones who will abandon their whole race because of the actions of a few. Black men are the only ones still mad about a black girl who hurt him in high school so he dates out of his race. Black men are the only race of men who expect their women to want them when they have no means of providing for a family. Every other race of men will work,save and prepare for a family. In several Asian and Middle Eastern cultures the Male does not expect to marry at all if he doesn’t have an income. Black men want black women to take them as they are and hope for the best. And if black men run across one or two women that refuse to accept that then they abandon the whole race. When men of other races discover they are not financially desirable to the female of their race, they step up their game and/or look for someone within their race on their level. THEY DO NOT WRITE OFF EVERY FEMALE IN THEIR RACE. SOME black men will write off black women they haven’t even met yet because of something that happened in the past with a black female. Then use that as the reason they date outside of the race.

    WE AS BLACK WOMEN HAVE TO STOP INTERNALIZING ALL THE B.S THAT SWIRLERS USE TO JUSTIFY THEIR CHOICES. IT’S NOT OUR FAULT. BLACK MEN HAVE THEIR OWN BAGGAGE TOO. THE DIFFERENCE IS WE LOVE THE CONTINUANCE OF OUR RACE TO TRY IN DEAL WITH BLACK MEN. SOME BLACK MEN DON’T CARE IF WE GO ON AS A RACE OF OR NOT.

  • Cookie B.

    @ NUCCA
    FROM COOKIE B.

    WAS THAT COMMENT REALLY APPROPRIATE? HOW OLD ARE YOU, REALLY?!

  • ????????

    NUCCA IS A WHITEBOY, DONT MIND HIS LAME REMARKS.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    Thank you, Denial River, for pointing out that “Proudswirler” is a troll — and a very effective one at that. I think the long series of intentionally incendiary statements should be a clue.

    @Dr. Drake

    “When young black women realize that the thugs and cl@$$ clowns that they find so attractive, don’t usually grow up to be as successful as the smart, nice guys that they consider to be boring, things will change.
    When young black women in general start being attracted to smart and successful young black men, there will be more smart and successful young black men.”

    I have a question for you, Dr. Drake. Why is an individual’s desire to comport himself in a certain manner being predicated on what “some” women find attractive? I’m aware that some men find promiscuous women alluring — does that mean they should be held accountable for a young woman’s decision to engage in risky sexual behavior? Shouldn’t individuals want to be “smart and successful” because, well, it’s the “smart” thing to aspire to? Do we not have a black president and other prominent and successful black men who provide a model to follow that includes highly admirable scholarly and career pursuits?

    It doesn’t matter what “some” women want. If a man wants to be successful in certain environments, a less refined appearance and demeanor will not take him very far. Instead of projecting blame on a disparate group of individuals (black women are not a monolith — just as black men are not), we should be held accountable — men and women — for our personal decisions, which may either hinder or help us. This is part of being a man, and it’s part of being a woman.

    Happy Valentine’s Day, all. :)

  • 2Sweet

    I’m just glad I can’t personally relate, b/c I’ve never had a problem getting men. If anything there’s always been an overabundance of men in my life. It’s not hard to see where the issue lies. The prison system! I recognize there are real hard criminals, but a lot of our men are in prison on bull$hit, trumped-up charges!! Serving hard time for $hit that a white man would serve half the time for, if any! Two of my ex boyfriends are currently in prison on drug charges. A lot of black men are and that’s just a reality. If neither one of them got incarcerated I would be married today! We’re already a minority, a lot of us are not open do dating others, and we have that right not to be. But, it is harder, even for the finest of women, to find a person she is compatible with and can see as a real partner.

  • 2Sweet

    @Daywalker Thank you keep telling these uneducated, euro-centric brainwashed b/itches!!!!

  • 2Sweet

    500th

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    2Sweet
    2/14/10, 16:54:pm
    @Daywalker Thank you keep telling these uneducated, euro-centric brainwashed b/itches!!!!
    _______________________________________________

    Thanks, ma…Some one has to keep the truth alive up in here…LOL!!

  • bluemorpho

    @ Sydney

    I have a question for you, Dr. Drake. Why is an individual’s desire to comport himself in a certain manner being predicated on what “some” women find attractive? I’m aware that some men find promiscuous women alluring — does that mean they should be held accountable for a young woman’s decision to engage in risky sexual behavior? Shouldn’t individuals want to be “smart and successful” because, well, it’s the “smart” thing to aspire to? Do we not have a black president and other prominent and successful black men who provide a model to follow that includes highly admirable scholarly and career pursuits?
    ————————
    Excuse me for interjecting!!!

    But PREACH!!!!!

    a man that’s trying to be a thug is not trying to get the College Educated Career Minded black woman anyway. That’s a ridiculous notion. Its more like Thugs are dating Hoodrats cause that’s who’s around. and vice versa

  • Leroy N. Skillet

    bluemorpho

    “a man that’s trying to be a thug is not trying to get the College Educated Career Minded black woman anyway. That’s a ridiculous notion. Its more like Thugs are dating Hoodrats cause that’s who’s around. and vice versa”

    That’s not totally true. Look at the new RHOA addition. She’s a high powered lawyer, and recently married a twice convicted felon who was just released from jail last year…You have a lot of high profiled successful black women who chase after thugs/rappers/ballers, suchas Vivica Fox, Tamala Jones, Elise Neal, etc. Just recently, Theresa Randle married a has been rapper, Father MC.

    So why should a n i g g a go to college, put on a Brooks Brother suit, when he can bag and sag and score a rich black b i t c h all the same?

  • big fanny

    Ohhh LAWWDDD!

    I know dem ho.ez aint talkin bout the sistas like dat.

    I need me some purple roast beef.

  • peaches

    peace and love to all my black bitc.hes from the
    crispy burnt ones to the light ones.

  • Jerome

    all i want to know is who doesn’t like purple pu$$y?

    WHO?!?

  • New Orleans Bell

    I don’t understand why it is so hard for BW to date outside their race! Get over it… Move On… believe me there are alot of other men who would treat you the way you DESERVE to be treated. I was ridiculed(by black men…and who are they?) for dating my WHITE bf and I AM A BLACK WOMAN… and now we are happily married, and we give eachother the best! And I have experienced so many great things from being with him; he has done everything in his power to make sure that I am respected and loved like I should. He has high standards and so do I… So we compliment one another. We always say this to one another… WE ARE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS… and when you think about it, thats exactly what we are. So to my other black sisters… You dont have to be alone, you don’t have to settle for less, and you don’t have to take no BS! Try something new… YOU JUST MIGHT LIKE IT.

  • ALFRED

    There are more women than men in every racial background, alot of women will be alone. Women outnumber men, so that is a fact. Throw in Black, Asian, Hispanic, Indian and you have a problem.

    White women are having a hard time finding white males to marry so what makes you sistas think your not going to have just as hard of a time finding white mates. Women in general will have to lower there standards or be lonely forever. The male gap will only get larger as time goes by for all races. Men are slowly dieing out. You women will triple the size of men. In This equation men will have the upper hand, it is that simple. So lowering standards is a must or stay single. Love isnt a job interview and it is falling in love with someone you love. If he or she lives under a bridge, than if I love that person I bring a blanket and live there with them. We share our blanket under a bridge.

    Why can a male like me understand this but some of you women can not. Go out and get a husband, he doesn’t have to be Denzel, but you women make it that hard because you are looking for Denzel with a bank account to match.

    This problem will only get worse, and fator in the gay white and very high gay Hispanic male count you are left with very little. The real culprit is homosexuality and it will only increase.

    Either lower your standards or be single and miserable.

  • Julio-the-Uncle Juan

    What Southern Bell said is correct, Black women need to venture out and date white, Asian and Indian men. Hispanic men on average rarely date black women unless you are light colored. There are exceptions but few.

    You Black men need to venture out as well, because this aint healthy. I see you all fighting on this site everyday like some rabid kids over other peoples actions.

    I know plenty of Hispanic, Asian and Indian males who date white women and do it without shame. I know Asian and Hispanic males who only date white women.

    You Black males should just do what these athletes and other races do and marry white women, leave these bad attitude women alone who dont want to be submissive.

    I learned that about these Lazy loud mouthed chulas who have no ambition and all have skin color issues.

    The man is the head of the house, not women, and you can not have a stable environment with a woman who wants more control than you. You ask her to make you dinner and she has something to say, you come home to a bad attitude.

    Look, there are more and more women who are single, my brothas, join the dark side and come on over.

  • Reality Check

    Maybe black women have such difficulty finding a man because they abort 1/2 of all their pregnancies.

  • girlygirl

    @Julio-the-Uncle Juan
    how are you any better than the ‘Lazy loud mouthed chulas’ as you call them. your whole post sounded like one long bytch fest to me. pot and kettle?

  • ……

    Reality Check

    Well you know black females aint down with birth control. In fact there idea of birth control is abortion. I guess to them, abortion is easier than taking the pill.

  • girlygirl

    this thread is full of frustrated black people, it’s good that you all care but it’s just coming out all wrong. black men frustrated at black women and vice versa. i sense that the p a s s i o n stems from love, this thread is ghetto love at it’s finest :-)

  • Leroy N. Skillet

    girlygirl

    How are we frustrated? I think my post is objective and truthful.

  • girlygirl

    @…… oh no u didn’t, why do u single out black women?

  • ……

    girlygirl

    Because that’s who we are talking about, so don’t pretend that a large portion of black women are lazy when it comes to taking birth control.

  • girlygirl

    @Leroy N. Skillet
    i disagree with your post, i do not have any problems attracting men but then i am young and fine :-) , but not only unattractive women are single. being attractive can get a partner but it can’t keep them with you. beauty is in the eye of the beholder so these women might be beauty queens to some men, i doubt that they are alone because of how they look

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    If you want to make me feel bad don’t use Halle Berry.

    I STILL THINK HALLIE BERRY IS JUST A STRAIGHT UP HORRIFIC, UGLY A$$ CHIC… 4 REAL. UGLY,UGLY,UGLY B!OTCH!!!

    I STILL DON’T KNOW WHAT AMERICA SEES IN THIS WOMAN!!

  • Reality Check

    Black women accounted for the majority of abortions in Georgia in 2006, even though blacks make up just a third of state population, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    Nationally, black women were more than three times as likely to get an abortion in 2006 compared with white women, according to the CDC.

  • girlygirl

    @Reality Check
    Thanks for the stats, but remember that it takes two…black women are not getting themselves pregnant so maybe black men and women need to practice safer boot knocking

  • Jerome

    yeah real talk the b!tches aren’t much to look at. The bw attitude needs to go tho

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    Yeah, right!! Black people were building Pyramids in Egypt when Europeans were living in caves like apes, Matter of fact, in Trigonometry, there is a theorem named the “Pythagorean Theorem” which was stolen by a greek that went to Egypt to learn mathematics!! Blacks have led the world in Science, Medicine, Architecture, Engineering, burying and honoring their dead, and the list goes on!! Whites have stolen ideas and concepts from blacks and other races from the beginning of time, and will continue to do so<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    WHITE PEOPLE DID NOT STEAL ANYTHING FROM BLACKS……EXCEPT WOMEN. WHITE PEOPLE INVENTED EVERYTHING USEFUL INCLUDING LIGHT BULBS. IF YOU TRACE HISTORY THERE'S ALWAYS SOME SILLY BLACK MAN TRYING TO CLAIM EVERYTHING BY SAYING HE INVENTED IT, TOTALLY NOT TRUE

  • frankiestage

    I mentioned way way earlier in this thread that femininity is something of a lost art, which a lot of women need to realize is often stronger than masculinity. Another important feature is respect. Both people in the relationship have to respect each other at the highest level. If that’s not in place, the relationship won’t work.

  • Lauren

    @frankiestage what your saying is very true.

  • John Edwards

    proudSwirler

    Tell them about it. No one can maintain a stable home like the white man.

  • John Edwards

    proudSwirler

    Yeah, and the white man is not over-sexed like the black man.

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK MALES WILL TRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. BLACK FEMALES THIS IS NOT TRUE, YOU CAN TRY TO BE PERFECT… COOK, CLEAN, KEEP QUIET, EVERYTHING… THEN HE WILL CHEAT ON YOU WITH THE WOMAN AT WORK BECAUSE YOU ARE ‘BORING’. I HAVE BROTHERS AND I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. BLACK FEMALES YOU CAN DO BETTER. GET WHITE…. GET RIGHT

  • Scott Petersen

    proudSwirler

    I plead not guilty of killing my pregnant wife.

  • proudSwirler

    @John Edwards
    WHITE MEN DO NOT TAKE PRIDE IN HAVING ‘BABY MOMS’ BLACK MEN ARE PROUD OF THAT “MY BABY MOMS”. WHITE MEN AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE THEIR ORIGINAL FAMILY WORK. BLACK MEN CONTINUE TO SPREAD S,P,E,RM KNOWING THAT THEY ARE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE FIRST 12. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT!

  • Check Me Out!!!

    Here we go again. Ya’ll is gonna let “White Man” ProudSwiler get you mad. Stop responding in anger to this “Troll”. It makes you look weak and controlled. This person can keep this up all night!! Stop falling for it!!

    ProudSwiler = White Man.

    SMMFH

  • none

    If that is really Halle Berry blogging can you answer this question: Why did Wesley Snipes beat your ass?

  • John Edwards

    proudSwirler

    You’re right, that’s why I tried to hide the fact of my infidelity by having my aid take the blame for knocking up my side piece. White is not only right, but also ethical.

  • proudSwirler

    AT LEAST BILL CLINTON AND SCOTT PERTERSON WERE SUCCESSFUL. BLACK MALES COMMIT CRIMES AT A HIGHER RATE BUT BECAUSE THEY ARE INSIGNIFICANT, THE PUBLIC WILL NOT HEAR ABOUT IT!

  • Scott Petersen

    proudSwirler

    You’re right. I am successful. I’m currently relaxing on a state paid Death Row Vacation. White is right.

  • proudSwirler

    @Lauren
    I FIND YOUR POST SWEET, REALLY SWEET…IT’S JUST A SHAME THAT NATURE IS AGAINST YOU. IF HE IS BLACK IT WILL NOT WORK. SAY YOUR PRAYERS AND GO BACK TO THE KITCHEN. I TRIED TO HELP, BLACK FEMALES..GET WHITE, GET RIGHT

  • antiprocrastination

    Black men date outside their race more than any other men of other races…
    Why is that?

  • proudSwirler

    @Lauren
    I HAVE NEVER HAD S,E,X WITH A BLACK MALE. THE THOUGHT ALONE IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME WANT TO P,U,K,E! 98% OF BLACK MALES FALL INTO SOME TYPICAL STATISTIC. POOR CREDIT, JAIL TIME, YOU SEE WHERE IM GOING. GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • Michael

    @antiprocrastination

    Because Black men care about beauty and booty not Race when it comes to dating.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    @ proudSwirler

    __________________________________________________________________________________________________

    THE BITTER, VICIOUS BLACK WOMAN IS BACK!!! I’M OUT!!!

  • Bryant Gumbel

    antiprocrastination

    Have you ever tried living with and loving a black woman? Trust me, after 6 months of dealing with one, you too would make a mad dash into the welcoming arms of a white goddess.

  • proudSwirler

    @Scott Petersen
    YOU DID WRONG BUT YOU WILL MAKE MORE OF YOUR LIFE THAN THE TYPICAL BLACK MALE. I GOT WHITE, AND IT WAS RIGHT!

  • Michael

    Sorry you think that proudSwiler. I must fall in that 2% catagorey. To tell you the truth, I know lots of brothas that are doing the right thing. But I know a lot who aren’t both black and white. People are individuals. I could gaurantee you one thing tho. I wouldn’t date you. You have too much attitude. :(

  • proudSwirler

    @Mr.uPPeR CuTTs
    I DO GET A FROSTY RECEPTION FROM BLACK MALES, ESPECIALLY WHEN I AM WITH MY WHITE MAN OR WHEN I TELL THEM I HAVE A WHITE BOYFRIEND. I AM USED TO IT, YOUNG AND I ALREADY GOT MORE OF A CLUE THAN A GROWN AZZ BLACK MAN. AIN’T THAT A BYTCH!

  • proudSwirler

    @Micheal
    YOU FALL INTO THE 2%, REALLY?
    IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, POOR CREDIT, EVER BEEN TO JAIL, A CRIMINAL RECORD, DON’T HAVE A JOB, THEN YOU DON’T FIT INTO THE 2%. WAKE UP LADIES, GOOD BLACK MEN WENT OUT WITH THE
    HIGH-TOP FADE..GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • JC ‘o Bklyn

    @AntiProcrast
    Black men, more than any other men, date outside of their racial group is a result of women of all races preferring the black çoçk, period. lol

  • JC ‘o Bklyn

    These Russian Bïtçhes’ topic of the day should be Why Russian Men Should Stop Ubusing Vodka. mothérfüçké®s’ life expectancy is not more than 49yrs. ♥

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    @ Lauren

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    too bad u got a man!! i love my black women. I’m sure your man thinks you’re as precious as a DIAMOND..
    I’m sure hes a lucky man!!

  • chulak

    @proudSwirler

    Thou doth protest too much.

  • Bryant Gumbel

    Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    Now you know it’s Sunday, and you shouldn’t be lying to Lauren. In every black man, there’s a SWIRLER just itching to get out. – Including you!

  • chulak

    If black women want to date men of other races I think they should. Why package it as an issue of failings from black men? It’s almost as if black women have an issue with it and they’re using black men as a tool to paint themselves into a corner.

  • Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    “Bryant Gumbel

    2/14/10, 22:37:pm

    Mr.uPPeR CuTTs

    Now you know it’s Sunday, and you shouldn’t be lying to Lauren. In every black man, there’s a SWIRLER just itching to get out. – Including you!”
    ______________________________________________________________________________________________

    lol u funny..ahahahha.. No, i haven’t given up on the BLACK WOMEN.. But SOME, make me angry so I try to get them mad at times. BUT i love them though.

  • proudSwirler

    SERIOUSLY LADIES, IF YOU GOT A PRETTY FACE AND A SEXI SHAPE, I GOT WHITE MEN THAT WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER. BLACK MEN WILL P,I,M,P YOU OUT THEN KEEP ALL THE $$$ TO SPEND ON THE NEW GIRL. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT!

  • Shakespeare

    chulak

    If thou art going to reference mine prose, do it right. Tis “DOST”, not “DOTH”.

  • Michael

    I don’t know how your “White Prince” could keep up with you. I wouldn’t, you’re just too angry. (Notice how I said wouldn’t not couldn’t)
    I’ve dated outside my race and choose to date who best fits me. BW, date who you want but don’t settle and don’t discriminate.

    SMH @ proudSwiler

  • chulak

    @Shakespeare

    Lol! Thanks for the correction.

  • Lauren

    @Mruppercuts yes he does and it was definantly proven today. I just want black men to not give up on us although there are few black women like me. We do exist but you have to just find us mixed in the bad attitudes and crazies aka proudswirler.

  • proudSwirler

    IF I GET THROUGH TO 1 BLACK FEMALE, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

  • chulak

    @proudSwirler

    You sound shrill like chicken little. You’re doing your mission a disservice.

    BTW, where is the pride in the swirl?

  • Bryant Gumbel

    P E N I S

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    And still no answer to any of my questions…Wazzup with that, proudswirler?? Gettin chicken???

  • Ini

    Only black women question whether they deserve a man who is educated, has good credit and respects them. Why should we always have to settle for less just because the man is black? Stop settling and date outside of your race if you need to because you deserve to be with your equal. Men need to be in that alpha position. You can try dating someone not on the same level, but contrary to popular belief, he knows he doesn’t deserve you and will treat you like sh** because of his insecurities.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “You mean like Bristol Palin, who got knocked up, and has to beg for child support nowadays???”
    YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT FOR EVERY 1 WHITE MALE NOT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT, THERE ARE 20,000 BLACK MALES NOT PAYING IT. LET’S BE REAL!

  • chulak

    @Ini

    So your money makes you better than black men of lessor monetary means? Men of equal financial status don’t feel the need to be alpha male?

    Good reasoning.

  • Lauren

    @proudswirler just keep it coming obviously your stupidity has no ending. I’m going to let Daywalker continue to get in your a$$ he is doing a far better job than I. Daywalker she is all yours!

  • proudSwirler

    @chulak
    “where is the pride in swirl”
    THE PRIDE COMES WITH KNOWING THAT I HAVE DECREASED MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A STATISTIC. I HAVE IMPROVED MY LIFE AND MY STATUS, BLACK MALES ARE A BURDEN. IF U WANT A BLACK MALE, BE PREPARED TO BE A MOTHER FIGURE TO A GROWN MAN!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Ok, test time:

    When a black woman says that she’s currently with a white man, or that sistas should get with white men, this is because:

    A) White men are better than black men??

    B)She was conditioned to like white men…

    C)Brothas failed her…

    D)Make excuses why black men date white women, yet fail to make the same excuses when the get with white men….I think we all know the answer here, eh???

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Lauren
    2/14/10, 23:01:pm
    @proudswirler just keep it coming obviously your stupidity has no ending. I’m going to let Daywalker continue to get in your a$$ he is doing a far better job than I. Daywalker she is all yours!
    ____________________________________________

    Thanks, ma!! I’m gonna ride her azz like the day is long…..

  • Lauren

    @ Bryantgumbel are you and swirl related because your just as asinine. Okay so whats your story, and have any of you ppl seeked counseling?

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    When they get with white men*(TYPO)

  • chulak

    @proudSwirler

    I’m happy that you are doing better. It sounds like it anyway but you really didn’t answer my question. Instead your answer points to the pain that’s in your heart. Someone really did a number on you. Try to understand that the culprit is not black men. The culprit are those you so unfortunately let into your life. Black men as a group does not wish you ill. I certainly don’t. I sincerely hope you can get over your pain and move on with the one that you have chosen.

  • chulak

    @Daywalker

    I admire your stamina.

  • proudSwirler

    @ Goon 1
    *EXCUSE ME WHILE I GET MY VIOLIN OUT*, YOUR WHOLE NOVEL SOUNDS LIKE THE TYPICAL BLACK MALE
    EXCUSES,…EXCUSES..EXCUSES…EXCUSES

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    most of all*(typo)

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    chulak
    2/14/10, 23:12:pm
    @Daywalker

    I admire your stamina.
    ___________________________________________

    As does my woman, my friend…. :lol:

  • proudSwirler

    @chulak
    DID A NUMBER ON ME? THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. BLACK WOMEN COULD WAIT TO MEET MEN LIKE MY BROTHERS, THEN YOU WOULD ONLY WISH YOU TOOK MY ADVICE, GET WHITE GET RIGHT! LOOK AROUND YOU BLACK WOMEN, HOW MANY BLACK MEN DO YOU KNOW PERSONALLY THAT ARE DOING WELL? THEN COMPARE IT TO THE BLACK MALES U KNOW WHO WOULD FIT A TYPICAL BLACK MAN STAT, DRUGS, FATHERLESS CHILDREN, GAY, POOR CREDIT, AGRESSIVE. WAKE UP BLACK FEMALES!

  • proudSwirler

    @ Daywalker
    WHITE MEN SATISFY ME PERFECTLY FINE, THEY AIM TO PLEASE. BLACK MEN RELY ON THE BIG DYCK MYTH TO GET THEM THROUGH LIFE SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY DON’T HAVE TO TRY. I CAN’T TELL YOU HOW MANY BLACK MEN BRING UP DYCK SIZE WHEN I TELL THEM I HAVE A WHITE BOYFRIEND. PATHETIC!

  • Ini

    @ chulak

    Every man feels the need to be an alpha male. If he has less money than u he will feel threatened. Why make him feel bad, then start treating u bad? It’s common sense. If u can find a black man on your level, you are one lucky b**. If not, then move on and don’t stop looking til u find what u need whether they be black white hispanic whatev.

  • Ini

    and, just cuz these famous dudes are dating white men u don’t know what these women put up with every day. Look @ tiger woods wife u really wanna switch places w/ her? I say good riddance. Do u and stop feeling guilty about it. People r alwys gon hate. Date who u want to

  • things that make you go hmm

    “The closest I came to being intimate with a black woman, was during a dream”

    I wonder where you get your comparisons from

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK MEN ARE AT THE FAR END OF THE CIVILIZATION SCALE. WE HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS, A BLACK PRESIDENT AND THEY ARE STILL ‘THUGGIN’. GET WHITE….GET RIGHT!

  • chulak

    @Ini

    If sense was common everybody would have it!

    “Every man feels the need to be an alpha male. If he has less money than u he will feel threatened.”

    Your statements are contradictory. What does being an alpha male have to do with financial status?

    You said: “Only black women question whether they deserve a man who is educated, has good credit and respects them. Why should we always have to settle for less just because the man is black? Stop settling and date outside of your race if you need to because you deserve to be with your equal.” Education, good credit and respect are mutually exclusive so what you’re really talking about is a black man that is on your level in terms of money. You feel you are better than a black man that makes less money than you.

  • Ini

    @daywalker
    -Actually, I weigh about 200 pounds and white men ask me out all the time. I was kinda shocked too but they like the junk in the trunk. They even appreciate my nappy hair when I wear it in an afro. My African ex husband hated my nappy hair. Black men should realize that they are not the end all be all.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “And as far as sistas are concerned, they would be a helluva lot better off with a black man than a white one!!”
    BLACK WOMEN ARE BETTER OFF WITH BLACK MEN IF THEY WANT TO BECOME A STATISTIC. BLACK WOMEN, IF YOU WANT TO BE SOMEONE’S “BABY MOM” THEN U SHOULD CONTINUE DATING BLACK MEN.IF NOT…GET WHITE….U KNOW THE REST! DO IT NOW WHILE YOU ARE YOUNG AND TIGHT!

  • Ini

    @ Chulak
    That’s because I am. sorry to be so blunt but there is no romance without finance. Most marriages that end in divorce do so due to money issues. Marriage is hard enough without money troubles

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    chulak
    2/15/10, 00:12:am
    ______________________________________________

    Well put..Since when do you need a huge bank account to be an ALPHA MALE??? You either are, or you aren’t. And to further delve into what you said, Bill Gates is pretty damn well paid, but that being said, he certainly is no Alpha male…And to be honest, any man can achieve financial success whether he’s black white, Asian or latino if he is willing to work, apply himself, and invest wisely!! White men do not hold the market on wealth…That can be accomplished by any one….

  • chulak

    @Ini

    Well then, if being better than someone means that you have better Education, better credit, more money etc. then I can reasonably conclude that I am better than you.

  • 2Sweet

    Those of y’all talking about BW and birth control need to stop! I am about to be 25, never had kids, never been pregnant, and I haven’t been on the pill in 7 years. I refuse to get on the pill b/c I suspect it causes cancer. There are obviously men busting nuts in these women, when they KNOW that’s how children are born. Stop blaming it all on the women and take some responsibility for yourselves!

  • Ini

    @ chulak
    I would agree. IF you were had more money, education and better credit than me, you would be better. But you probably don’t so I’m not concerned about it. Relationships arent just about feelings. People should be equal in education, credit, money all of those things. Again, common sense.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Ini
    2/15/10, 00:14:am
    @daywalker
    -Actually, I weigh about 200 pounds and white men ask me out all the time. I was kinda shocked too but they like the junk in the trunk. They even appreciate my nappy hair when I wear it in an afro. My African ex husband hated my nappy hair. Black men should realize that they are not the end all be all.
    _____________________________________________

    I never said that we were, but I will say that black women are better off with good black men as opposed to white men…There is no guarantee that a white man will treat you any better than a black one will, and I can say that too often, black women look for love in the wrong places! And I personally have no issues with black women, but I do feel as though they need to take a vested interest in their own health!! Diabetes, heart attacks, and numerous other health risks are exacerbated when people are overweight, so the black community as a whole needs to combat obesity, and that goes for the men as well!! Personally, I’m 5’11, and weigh 205 lbs. and I’m technically, overweight,(Even though I have a lot of upper body muscle mazz) so I can imagine just how many females are….And as far as what you said earlier about finances, you’re right!! No one should get married without a stable financial history, because romance without finance is a nuisance!!! LOL!!

  • proudSwirler

    @lni, SISTA AMEN!
    BLACK MEN TRY TO CONVINCE BLACK WOMEN THAT THEY ARE NOT WANTED BY OTHER RACES>>>FALSE. SOME MEN OF OTHER RACES LOVE BLACK WOMEN. BLACK MEN SWEAR THAT THEY ARE WANTED AND BLACK WOMEN ARE NOT>>>>>> FALSE.
    MY WHITE BOYFRIEND’S FRIENDS LOVE BLACK WOMEN. THE BEST THING IS THAT THEY LOVE ALL THE FEATURES BLACK MEN HATE!

  • proudSwirler

    BLACK MALES WANT TO BE THE ‘ALPHA MALE’ WHEN THEY ARE BROKE. BLACK MEN WANT YOU TO COOK, CLEAN, BE SUBMISSIVE, UNDERSTANDING, KEEP THE FAMILY, WORKOUT, LOOK GOOD, AND EARN THE MONEY……..GET WHITE GET RIGHT!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Ini
    2/15/10, 00:24:am
    @ chulak
    I would agree. IF you were had more money, education and better credit than me, you would be better. But you probably don’t so I’m not concerned about it. Relationships arent just about feelings. People should be equal in education, credit, money all of those things. Again, common sense.
    _______________________________________________

    Actually, I’d have to disagree with you, there…My girl makes nowhere near what I do, but I still love her all the same…Notice, I said “LOVE”…When that comes into play, all rational thought goes out of the window!! Hell, how many times have you seen someone that was totally wrong for someone else?? I mean a guy or girl that was just not right for that person?? And it wouldn’t matter that their friends, family, their co-workers, or even their own mother told them to leave that person alone, they just wouldn’t??? Well, that, my dear lady, is what is known as “ATTRACTION”…and believe me, when a woman is attracted to a man, their actions will defy any and all logical thought processes…And vice versa….As I’ve said many a time before, “ATTRACTION” is a powerful thing……

  • chulak

    @Ini

    Really? Well having nothing to judge you by except from your post I can make the following conclusions: Your logic and reasoning abilities are that of a child certainly not of someone who has acquired reputable post secondary education. You have poor grammar. Your writing is strained, certainly not characteristic of someone who has a proper education. If a good education = good job then I can assume you don’t make much. You may have good credit but without sufficient funding it’s pretty much useless.

    So what kind of white man would be at your “level”. I would imagine poor white trash. In any event I would imagine that would be a step down even from the poorest black man.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    chulak
    2/15/10, 00:40:am
    @Ini

    Really? Well having nothing to judge you by except from your post I can make the following conclusions: Your logic and reasoning abilities are that of a child certainly not of someone who has acquired reputable post secondary education. You have poor grammar. Your writing is strained, certainly not characteristic of someone who has a proper education. If a good education = good job then I can *****ume you don’t make much. You may have good credit but without sufficient funding it’s pretty much useless.

    So what kind of white man would be at your “level”. I would imagine poor white trash. In any event I would imagine that would be a step down even from the poorest black man.
    _______________________________________________

    Agreed….

  • proudSwirler

    SISTAS I MUST LOVE YOU AND LEAVE YOU. I HOPE MY COMMENTS HAVE TOUCHED AT LEAST ONE OF YOU. I KNOW THERE ARE SISTA’S READING BUT NOT COMMENTING, THAT INCLUDES YOU. THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY BEAUTIFUL, EDUCATED, CL,A,S,SY SISTAS WASTING THEIR TIME AND YOUTH ON BLACK MALES. GET WHITE GET RIGHT LADIES….!

  • Ini

    @ dreamwalker
    5’6.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @Ini:

    Not to sound like a jerk, but at 5’6 and 200lbs, you are at 32.3% body fat, ma….That ain’t a gook look…

  • Ini

    @ daywalker
    You are the one showing your ignorance. I don’t need to prove to you that I am educated and beautiful. I have more than enough people in my life who tell me that every day. I find it odd, however, that you immediately attack and denigrate me in an effort to prove your point..Women like me are tired of being abused and put down by men like you. More and more valuable, accomplished black women are making up their minds to do what pleases them, and not society every day. If that means dating outside of our race, that is what we shall do. Like it or lick it. I wish you and your broke girlfriend the best.

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    “then why haven’t they gotten their own black women?? Wanna know why?? Cause sistas aren’t “attracted”.

    I HOPE MY POSTS WILL CHANGE THAT, THEY ARE ALL GOOD WHITE MEN (WITH JOBS) LOOKING FOR A BLACK QUEEN.

    SISTAS I MUST LOVE YOU AND LEAVE YOU (JUST LIKE THE TYPICAL BLACK MALE WOULD)…GET WHITE, GET RIGHT AND STAY STRONG!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson):

    Wazzup, lillypad sunshine??? LOL!! :smile:

  • JULIO

    Damn you people still on this topic, that Swirl idiot is a troll and I doubt she has a boyfriend. She is lying out of her teeth and sounds like a 14 yearold.

    Brotha’s you really need to lose these females and get with women who can think rationally.

    Jump ship and let the white males deal with these emotional wrecks.

    You are fighting an up hill battle.

  • proudSwirler

    14 YEAR OLD, TRY 23 AND TO BE HONEST YOU ARE A BLACK MALE SO I COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOU THINK. I CARE WHAT MY WHITE MAN THINKS AND HE THINKS I AM AMAZING…. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Why are my comments not posting ?

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    Hello, or early good morning, Day? “Lilypad sunshine?” lol

    There’s way too much vitriol on this thread for a day set aside for love.

    And did someone actually post as “Miss Jane Pittman?” Alright, Cicely Tyson. :)

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    proudSwirler
    2/15/10, 01:12:am
    14 YEAR OLD, TRY 23 AND TO BE HONEST YOU ARE A BLACK MALE SO I COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOU THINK. I CARE WHAT MY WHITE MAN THINKS AND HE THINKS I AM AMAZING…. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES
    _____________________________________________

    Later, googobbler!! :smile:

  • JULIO

    Daywalker you still arguing with these women, all you black males should stop arguing with these women, you cats aint getting no where.

    There are perfectly stable white women who need a good man, just go out and scoop one up. You dudes have been arguing on a topic for a whole day and you are really wasting your time.

    Why make your life tougher than what it is rather than enjoy it. These women are angry about something that is out of your hand. Black women love to scream and always have this attitude that they just dont realize that they have. Every race of man knows that black women have this attitude. Hispanic, White, Indian and Asian all know black women have a bad attitude.

    Just call it a day and let the white males deal with these females. Good riddance to the heart ache and go get a snow flake who will be subservient and doesn’t have an attitude about life.

  • Ini

    @ daywalker
    This will be my last response to you. If you appreciated and valued black women as much as you say you do, you would never disrespect a woman the way you disrespected me. You seem obsessed with numbers and appearances. You are ridiculous, childish, and a disappointment. I love men of all races, but I do require that they be men. You do not meet that standard.

  • Cookie B.

    BLACK WOMEN I AM BLAMING US FOR MOST OF OUR PROBLEMS WITH THESE BLACK MEN. STOP PLAYING THE WIFE AND BECOME THE WIFE. STOP GIVING ALL OF YOURSELVES AS GIRLFRIENDS AND START INVESTING THAT TIME AND ENERGY INTO YOURSELVES. I KNOW PEOPEL SAY THAT THEY STRONG BLACK WOMAN IS OVER RATED THAT IS SO NOT TRUE. SHE IS VERY UNDER RATED AND VERY UNAPPRECIATED. AT THE END OF THE DAY ALL WE HAVE LADIES IS CHRIST AND OURSELVES.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    This Is So Weird.

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)
    2/15/10, 01:13:am
    Hello, or early good morning, Day? “Lilypad sunshine?” lol

    There’s way too much vitriol on this thread for a day set aside for love.

    And did someone actually post as “Miss Jane Pittman?” Alright, Cicely Tyson.
    _______________________________________________

    Luckily for me, I got my lovin earlier, but in all honesty, the Jane Pittman post was kinda funny…Almost as funny as Proudswirler trying to convince me that her lame azz whiteboy makes more than I do….NOW THAT WAS HILLARIOUS!! LOL!!!!

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    BY ‘GOOD’ I MEAN FOCUSED, CARING, RESPECTABLE, NOT LOOKING FOR A MOTHER FIGURE, EXPECTS THE BEST AND IS WILLING TO GIVE THE BEST, NO CHILDREN, KNOWS WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH HIS LIFE, SETS GOALS AND ACHIEVES THEM (WITHOUT EXCUSES) AND THEY ARE HANDSOME. BLACK WOMEN WOULD BE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM AND VICE VERSA. GET WHITE LADIES…..

  • Ini

    @ cookie b.
    That’s right. We have to start holding men up to a standard. People live up ( or down) to expectations.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    I still think that there is great truth to the statement.

    The reason there so supposedly so many bad black men, is because thats what black women like.

    Natural selection. You like thugs, you reproduce with thugs then you are bound to have more thugs.

    Success has to be cultivated, wanted and appreciated.

    And sadly not enough young black girls admire those virtues in black men.

    Quote- “Girl, I didn’t know he was married. He was always scared to fight and reading books, I thought he was gay. Well he fine as hell now and he got money, I bet he like white women.”

    Real words from a real black woman.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    Hello, Dr. Drake :)

    @Day

    Oh, I thought “Jane Pittman” was hilarious, and a much-needed dose of levity (it’s pretty obvious that the same person posted as “Scott Peterson,” “Bill Clinton,” and some other characters as well, lol). I thnk there’s more than one person in here who is trying to stir the pot to incite responses (“ProudSwirler,” I’m talking to you, sir or madam).

  • Cookie B.

    @ JULIO

    FROM: COOKIE B.

    Did I display a bad attitude? I am the only one on this site tring to have a calm intelligent coversation between the bloggers. Do not generalize all black women in a negative category because the truth, of the matter, is black men do not hold a positive resume with the general public. You all are discribed as: dead beats, thugs, inmates, dead beat dads, women beaters, theives, killers, rapists, goons, project pimps, etc. So, black men do not start with the name calling. We are all in this together.

    To the Latino/ Hispanic men, please, do not chime in with your racist and rude remarks about black women because you all have not had the most cleanest discription either so, keep the rude and unwarranted remarks behind the keyboard, please.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Hey SYD,

    How was your Valentines Day. Before we get into it ? :)

  • proudSwirler

    @Daywalker
    I BET HE DOES EARN MORE THAN YOU, IT IS RARE FOR A BLACK MALE TO EARN MORE THAN A WHITE MALE. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY??? BECAUSE WHITE MEN LEAD, BLACK MEN FOLLOW. MEANING THAT WHITE MEN ARE AT THE TOP AND BLACK MEN ARE THE ‘EMPLOYEES’. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES…CLIMB THAT STATUS LADDER AND STAY BEAUTIFUL!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    Well, guys, I’m outta here!! Later, SYD, Peace out, Doc!! And buh-bye every one else!! :smile:

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Peace DayWalker

  • Michael

    @proudSwirler
    14 YEAR OLD, TRY 23 AND TO BE HONEST YOU ARE A BLACK MALE SO I COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOU THINK. I CARE WHAT MY WHITE MAN THINKS AND HE THINKS I AM AMAZING…. GET WHITE, GET RIGHT LADIES
    ===============================================

    Oh, Now I see. You’re only 23. Now it makes sense. SMH. You’re too young to know what you’re saying. Infact, your brain won’t fully devlope until 26 or so. And though you may be right on some points your tactics are very childish.

    We’ll see what you’ll say when you’re my age (38) It’s easy to get a “White Man” now but how about when you’re 40? LMAO, we’ll see then.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @Dr. Drake

    My Valentine’s Day was wonderful. How was yours?

    There’s nothing to “get into” because I simply cannot relate – at all. I saw loving, healthy black couples all through my childhood, observed the marriage between my father and mother, and my friends mostly consisted of fellow “nerds.” :)

    Good night, Day!

    @Bluemorpho

    I understand your points about the role of the man as provider/protector completely. The woman has also traditionally been viewed as the nurturer who takes care of the home. There’s nothing “materialistic” about this traditional mindset, and in today’s world, many women are jugging both — careers that enable them to contribute to the financial well-being of the household and caring for their families.

  • bluemorpho

    By the way at my job there are at least 6 black men married to white/latina women WHO DON’T WORK AT ALL. And they don’t mind. They take care of the house and the kids.

    All the black men at work who are married to black women say their wives work. All my black female friend/co-workers who are married work also. And a few are married to black men who don’t work. 2 are going to school (which is cool). 1 isn’t working at all and his wife is supporting him.

    During a conversation with one at lunch one of my co-workers who is on his 3rd wife (a white woman) told me that his 1st 2 wives were black women who worked and helped pay bills and never complained about that. He speculated that black women are raised to expect to have to work and help support the household. But white women are raised to expect to be able to stay home and be housewives if they choose to. His current (white) wife has a masters degree but announced she was staying home when she got pregnant. And he said it was fine with him. When I asked if it woulda been o.k if one of his black ex-wives had said that…He looked funny and said he didn’t know.

    Oh and by the way!!! Those non-black women are not more submissive or sweet to their men. One white woman came up to the job and threw her black husbands clothes our of their car into the parking lot when they were going thru a rough patch. I hear these black men arguing and getting yelled at by there wives on the regular. So apparently it’s not all sweetness and light in these relationships.

    WHICH IS WHY I SAY IT’S NOT ALL BLACK WOMEN’S FAULT.
    BLACK MEN JUST THINK WOMEN OF OTHER RACES ARE BETTER/PRETTIER THAN US OR THEY THINK THEY ARE GETTING AN UPGRADE WHEN THEY DATE NON BLACK WOMEN. AGAIN BLACK WOMEN DON’T FALL FOR BLACK MEN’S LIES ABOUT WHY THEY ARE SWIRLING. IT’S NOT ANYTHING WE DID or DID NOT DO. They just want to swirl.

  • bluemorpho

    @Sydney

    understand your points about the role of the man as provider/protector completely. The woman has also traditionally been viewed as the nurturer who takes care of the home. There’s nothing “materialistic” about this traditional mindset, and in today’s world, many women are jugging both — careers that enable them to contribute to the financial well-being of the household and caring for their families.
    __________________________

    I agree. But let a black woman tell a potential mate that she is “Traditional” and wanted to stay home and raise the kids and cook and clean when she got married…Black dudes would run for the hills screaming GOLD DIGGER!!!!!!

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    I had a great Valentines Day. It was different but still wonderful. Breakfast with Tiffany. Godiva Chocolate covered strawberries. A Sade CD and gave Tiff a bubble bath with my hands complete with foot massage and adult attention.

    The kids are with my parents.

    Well I feel that we are lucky to have had wonderful parents and the ability to witness loving growing marriages. I just know for sure that thats not every one else’s story and I just don’t think both sides get proper credit for the roles that they play in the malfunctions of the black nuclear family.

    Any way, Sade’s CD. Might have make us have another child.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Might make us have another child.

  • ll

    I think we have to face facts. There are not enough black men to go around. The fact that this is on Russian TV just says that it’s something that everyone knows. Personally, it’s not important to me that I marry a black man. I think that personally is much more important than looks. There are attractive guys of every color.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    @bluemorpho

    “He speculated that black women are raised to expect to have to work and help support the household. But white women are raised to expect to be able to stay home and be housewives if they choose to. His current (white) wife has a masters degree but announced she was staying home when she got pregnant. And he said it was fine with him. When I asked if it woulda been o.k if one of his black ex-wives had said that…He looked funny and said he didn’t know.”

    That’s a very interesting observation that your co-worker made about the expecttions of white women vs. black women, and it speaks volumes that he could not respond definitively about what he would have done if his black ex-wives had demanded the same.

    I do think a number of black women are raised with the expectation that they will work to provide for themselves (part of the “Strong Black Woman” mantra, which I loathe). Some are ingrained with the belief that they must provide for themselves and to not do so is viewed as unnatural or “weak.” I do believe that this is a cultural difference that has worked to our detriment, IMHO.

    And I cannot blame a number of black women for not even considering the option of staying at home to be homemakers since it has not been extended to some of them.

  • Sydney™ (Alice Dunbar-Nelson)

    I believe the “black woman as workhorse” mentality has created other dysfunctions that some of us now face (feelings of stress and anxiety).

    I’m having trouble posting, too.

    I’m glad you had a good V-Day, Dr. Drake. I picked up Sade’s CD this weekend, and I hope to see her in concert. :)

  • pinkgirly

    1. It’s 3 times the amount of black woman to black men
    2. over 40% of black men are gay
    3. The other 40% in Jail or going to jail or getting shot.
    4. 10% of them don’t like black women
    5. Which leaves us with 10% to date.

    You do the Math it isn’t that hard, it has nothing to do with our attitudes, black men have attitudes too. T.O. be the first to claim a black woman got an attitude but he always crying on TV, come on yall, like really??

  • pinkgirly

    In other words black woman are saying, we’d rather screw ourselves than screw a piece of man.

    So black men need to step up and be men instead of a sissy’s always looking for the easy way out. Most black men now are like bytches, they were raised by single Mothers and don’t even hardly know how to take the trash out anymore. They think they bling and rims make up for that.

    Don’t get me wrong their are still some good men like Ladanian, D Wade, S. Harvey and many others but it’s alot of bytches out there too.

  • pinkgirly

    and black woman we need to start eating right, staying in shape and keeping our hair right. Quit it with all them BS hair styles like that Shavon lady, that’s why she’s single.

  • rochburn

    gimme that Beckeeey

  • Meads

    Why do black women still have this notion that because they have a college degree, and own a home, theyre more attractive to men? Why? so it can be thrown in your face every time theres a disagreement?

    “good” black men want a good looking, eclectic & pleasant WOMAN..not black woman, WOMAN.

  • $ Get cha Weight Up (You STILL makin’ that??) formerly Kami All Day

    Since I have started dating outside my race and meeting different people of different cultures….black men have become less and less important to me.

    The only black men who I will always respect is my brother, father, and uncles. Outside of that, they will never get love from me.

    I mean, if you want to waste your time, effort, and energy with no reciprocality, then be my guest. Enjoy.

  • Meads

    “Since I have started dating outside my race and meeting different people of different cultures….black men have become less and less important to me.”
    =====================

    You have should have been doing that all along. No person should be obligated to date one particular race.

    That said.. on a personal level you have some issues if you you need to jump and and down, do back flips and insult a race of men just because you finally decided to not be prejudice. Whats ironic is you came full circle.

  • Nicole

    I dont care if your black, white, blue or purple! That has nothing to do with what the hell love really is. Color does not define love nor should it determine the importance of what a real man should be. Just because one black man hurt you doesnt mean the next one will. I can pick out a hand full of white men and hispanic men who can do just as much harm as any black man. I find it quite sad that people can sit up here and categorize men by color. I dont think that we should try to say “BLACK MEN” are the problem. Why cant we just say “MEN”. WOMEN if you cant find a man, and your how old? Maybe the problem is not the man, maybe its you or these standards that arent quite realistic. I find nowadays that women go after things that shouldnt even matter. Money, Cars, Clothes…i mean if thats what your looking for while looking for love its no wonder why you are still single. Try getting your things together, stop judging so much, and maybe one day you will find someone!

  • Daywalker(THE DAYDREAM!!!)

    @$ Get cha Weight Up (You STILL makin’ that??) formerly Kami All Day:

    Mornin, hun!! I gotta agree with you, there are some no good cats out there, but I ain’t one of em!! So how was your Valentine’s day, ma??? :smile:

  • Give it a rest

    @Daywalker

    Give it rest. You been doing this all day for two days straight. Don’t be in here all day today PLEASE. It is starting to look like you have nothing to do.

  • TootyqT

    We live in a free country, where we have freedom to speak about theses issues and some people still get mad when they hear facts or statistics. Get over it and do something about it if your upset. The Russians have a right to report any story they want!

  • Dawn

    @ stacey dee

    You have a point! I can testify to how my brothers and cousins run through white broads!!! They get phones in their name and f u c k up their credit, they get cars in their names and they get repoed and the white broads are too stupid to take them to court for child support. I have 8 half white neices and nephews!!!

    I asked my brothers why they dont take care of their kids and why they keep a white broad, and this is what they said:

    BECAUSE THEY LET ME DO WHAT I WANT.
    BECAUSE THEY DONT MAKE ME TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS.
    BECAUSE THEY GOT GOOD CREDIT.
    BECAUSE THEY STUPID.
    BECAUSE THEY DO WHAT I TELL THEM.
    BECAUSE THEY GIVE GOOD HEAD.

    That’s straight from the horse’s mouth!!! Nuccas aint taking no better care of white women than they do black. They are just trying to get what they can get like its a game. At least that’s how it is where we live.

  • STEF

    You know its funny how we are all sinners and arent perfect but yet and still we feel like we have the right to judge other people, we arent GOD, weare HUMANS, you have no right to judge anyone else, and who are we to say that someone isn’t at our level, who are we to say were better than the next person…ever think that those same men are thinkin the same about you. Love is Love and isnt planned it just happens, neither is it something that you place an order on. You cant always have things your way.

  • Give it a rest

    @Daywalker

    Bytch? I am not a woman. Even still, come up with another word. Stop degrading women. You been on here for two days straight talking to somebody who you should be able to tell ain’t real. Thats why I say you should give it a rest.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    I get that black men need to step up, but I am sorry to say that most black women are in denial about their part of the problem.

    Generally speaking,
    Black women refuse to acknowledge their attitude problems. They refuse to admit that a large number of them are attracted to thugs and criminals. They refuse to acknowledge that their weight is an issue and they refuse to acknowledge that they don’t appreciate good black men.

    Sorry but you can deny it all you want but numbers don’t lie, if these things did not hold truth we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

  • TYRANT

    @antiprocrastination

    I hate to be the bearer of BAD NEWS but WHITE MEN date outside of their race a LOT MORE than black men. As a matter of fact, IR relationships between white male/asian female couples are at the top followed by black male/white female relationships. The reason why the relationships between black men/white women is so HIGH is because for over three and a half centuries black men did not have the luxury of being able to date IR until Loving vs. Virginia.

  • Virginia News

    Bluemorpho, I want to say that this is still the deepest thing I’ve read all month,

    “And he said it was fine with him. When I asked if it woulda been o.k if one of his black ex-wives had said that…He looked funny and said he didn’t know.”

    That really makes me think. Since reading it, I’ve looked at relationships — mine, and other peoples — differently. I’ll probably still be looking at them differently decades from now, because of what you wrote. It’s just really deep.

    Why are we like that? Why do black women allow it? Why do black men allow it? Why do we buy into it, while others are allowed to be homemakers?

  • Sydney™ (Regina Anderson)

    @Virginia News

    “Why are we like that? Why do black women allow it? Why do black men allow it? Why do we buy into it, while others are allowed to be homemakers?”

    I’m still struck by Bluemorpho’s post as well. It is, indeed, profound what black women allow and are expected to endure, including by men of their own race. I would say a considerable amount of these sentiments can be attributed, at least in part, to internalized racism, but it runs deeper than that, I think. We’re basically denying ourselves – and being denied – the same treatment given freely to women who only differ from us in terms of race. I’m convinced that this has had a long-term damaging effect on our collective health — both physical and emotional — the depths of which I’m unsure have been fully uncovered.

  • Sydney™ (Regina Anderson)

    On a deeper level, I sometimes wonder if we’re allowed to truly be women.

  • Sydney™ (Regina Anderson)

    And please pardon the previous typos in my posts.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Well to ensure that one will never be a party to the emotional chaos and discontent that plagues the blackman/black woman dichotomy, don’t get married or breed with one another.

  • Who Cares?

    @ soultouch
    I am at where you are. I don’t have a problem either, it just don’t work out. There are good black men out there, but then you have to see is you mesh, and all that stuff; so yes love is hard to find. However, putting yourself on global tv is wack and does not say something about the black man, but you. Date other races then sh*&!

  • Who Cares?

    @Proud Swirler
    If you were that proud, why are you on this site spreading hate on a race of men that look just like you. This question goes out to the black men on here doing the same as well.

    Ya’ll making my head hurt, I’m out.

  • TYRANT

    @Who Cares?
    If you were that proud, why are you on this site spreading hate on a race of men that look just like you. This question goes out to the black men on here doing the same as well.
    _______________________________________________

    That’s a good question, but what’s really interesting is the fact that you have black women/men of the white supremacist faction “constantly” telling each other on the message boards how unattractive they are because they have black features and how no one, especially a man/woman of another race, won’t want them. Now if that’s not self-hatred to the EXTREME I don’t know what is.

    As a black man, I’m know that black women are BEAUTIFUL and I see the beauty of black women everyday when I’m out and about. Non black men see the beauty of black women too, because I see them hitting on black women as well. My point: If black women are BEAUTIFUL then how can black men ever be UGLY or UNATTRACTIVE when black men come from-you guessed it-BLACK WOMEN. What’s really pathetic is you have black women/men who actually believe that the only way a BLACK WOMAN/MAN can ever be ATTRACTIVE is to be mixed with anything but BLACK. LOL

    STUPIDITY at it’s finest.

  • Lidia

    Black women, date outside your race. Black man do it, so why can’t you.

    The problem is that we don’t look outside the box, who cares if you date a white guy if that white guy will be the one for you.

    I’ve dated both white and black and ended up with a black man, but the point is that I was open.

    if black women don’t realize this they are going to stay single for the rest of their life.

  • Kylie

    I think that some black women are single because we have so much pride inside us, we love playing hard to get. So white men don’t really know how to handle us, n they know that it is easier to use white women maybe. Whereas, black men date other non-black women because then it is easier for them to use that woman or cheat on the white woman, without she noticing because they don’t actually understand the game n some of them are cheap, easy, desperate or hopeless so they’ll just stay wiv the black man. But black women might respond wiv more anger n aggression, then leave the black man once they get tired of the cheating.

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