For Discussion: Pro-Choice Vs. Pro-Life In The Black Community

Posted on February 28th, 2010 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: For Discussion, For Your Information, News

Black women account for 40 percent of the abortions in America while only being 13 percent of the population:

For years the largely white staff of Georgia Right to Life, the state’s largest anti-abortion group, tried to tackle the disproportionately high number of black women who undergo abortions. But, staff members said, they found it difficult to make inroads with black audiences. So in 2009, the group took money that it normally used for advertising a pregnancy hot line and hired a black woman, Catherine Davis, to be its minority outreach coordinator.

Ms. Davis traveled to black churches and colleges around the state, delivering the message that abortion is the primary tool in a decades-old conspiracy to kill off blacks. This month, the group expanded its reach, making national news with 80 billboards around Atlanta that proclaim, “Black children are an endangered species,” and a Web site, www.toomanyaborted.com.

Across the country, the anti-abortion movement, long viewed as almost exclusively white and Republican, is turning its attention to African-Americans and encouraging black abortion opponents across the country to become more active. Black abortion opponents, who sometimes refer to abortions as “womb lynchings,” have mounted a sustained attack on the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, spurred by a sting operation by young white conservatives who taped Planned Parenthood employees welcoming donations specifically for aborting black children.

“What’s giving it momentum is blacks are finally figuring out what’s going down,” said Johnny M. Hunter, a black pastor and longtime abortion opponent in Fayetteville, N.C. “The game changes when blacks get involved. And in the pro-life movement, a lot of the groups that have been ignored for years, they’re now getting galvanized.”

The factors fueling the focus on black women — an abortion rate far higher than that of other races and the ties between the effort to legalize and popularize birth control and eugenics — are, at heart, old news. But they have been given exaggerated new life by the Internet, slick repackaging, high production values and money, like the more than $20,000 that Georgia Right to Life invested in the billboards. Data from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that black women get almost 40 percent of the country’s abortions, even though blacks make up only 13 percent of the population. Nearly 40 percent of black pregnancies end in induced abortion, a rate far higher than for white or Hispanic women.

Day Gardner, now the president of the National Black Pro-Life Union in Washington, said those figures shocked her at first.

“I just really assumed that white people aborted more than anyone else, and black people would not do this because we’re culturally a religious people, we have large families,” Ms. Gardner said.

Many black anti-abortion leaders, including Ms. Davis and Alveda King, a niece of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the director of African-American outreach for Priests for Life, often recount their own abortion histories (each woman had two).

Abortion opponents say the number is so high because abortion clinics are deliberately located in black neighborhoods and prey upon black women. The evidence, they say, is everywhere: Planned Parenthood’s response to the anti-abortion ad that aired during the Super Bowl featured two black athletes, they note, and several women’s clinics offered free services — including abortions — to evacuees after Hurricane Katrina.

“The more I dug into it, the more vast I found that the network was,” Ms. Davis said. “And I realized that African-American women just did not know the truth, they did not understand the truth about the abortion industry.”

But those who support abortion rights dispute the conspiracy theory, saying it portrays black women as dupes and victims. The reason black women have so many abortions is simple, they say: too many unwanted pregnancies. “There’s an assumption that every time a girl is pregnant it’s because of voluntary activity, and it’s so not the case,” Ms. Ross said.

But, she said, the idea that abortion is intended to wipe out blacks may be finding fertile ground in a population that has experienced so much sanctioned prejudice and violence.

Black opponents of abortion are fond of saying that black people were anti-abortion and anti-birth control early on, pointing to Marcus Garvey’s conviction that blacks could overcome white supremacy through reproduction, and black militants who protested family planning clinics.

But that is only half the picture, scholars say. Black women were eager for birth control even before it was popularized by Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, and black doctors who provided illegal abortions were lauded as community heroes.

Discuss…

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  • Sarah

    No one wants black babies.

  • Sarah

    Everyone wants biracial babies with light skin and good hair.

  • http://perryone779@yahoo,com a rose by any other name # 9304026339482056536 ™

    They are lying about that, we all know white women have way more abortions than black women.. they lie like a rug and then the lying SOB’s turn around and say black women have more kids than whites! They lie! Stop believing all that crap they put off on black folks!!

  • its me

    Abortions are wrong, point blank

  • its me

    Black women have the most “reported” abortions. White people probably do it on the low, or they buy a pill under the table

  • MEANING

    They are lying about that, we all know white women have way more abortions than black women.. they lie like a rug and then the lying SOB’s turn around and say black women have more kids than whites! They lie! Stop believing all that crap they put off on black folks!!
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    I’ve seen tons of white women have abortion over the last ten years, and only two black friends have abortions. I wish there could be a choice to be able to have kids or not, like being able to switch off your reproductive organs without birth control, because trust me, if men were able to get pregnant, there would be fetuses all up and down the highway. It’s unfair that women have to carry children.
    Pro-choice for me, but I could NEVER abort a child.

  • Ms.ViVi

    Are you sure, cause I know alot of black women with 4 kids by 3 different guys. And girls younger than 14 having babies. Where are the abortions at?

  • Micaroni715

    I worked it healthcare. I spoke with a young white woman who was 22 and a full-time student. Her diagnosis was habitual aborter or something similiar.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @sarah: this is so not the topic to be spewing your usual bs.
    If you wish to marry/reproduce with a non-black man,do you but don’t do refrain from bashing blacks,especially innocent children!….smh

  • Denise

    The abortion is issue is simply that of a women’s right to choose what happens to her body. Not a black and white issue! The mostly all white “pro-life” movement is finally turning to the african-american population because their radical, nonsensical message is falling on deaf ears and they need new life for their cause. To insinuate that our population is using abortion for some sort self-perpetuated exterminiation is not only false but down right bigoted! The underlying reasons for the disparity in the number of black versus white abortions is not because we dont want black babies, its simply lies in the fact that we do not have the same resources afforded to whites most if not all the time. The fact that their movement is picking a war with planned parenthood, an organization that seems to be one of the few to come to the aid of young sexually active black women is idiotic. We, as balck people, are not inferior intellectually, you can’t take bullshit, wrap it in a new package and serve it to us as the new gospel and expect us to accept it. Shame on you.

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    THOSE SAME BLK DOCTORS WERE ALL BOULE,..AND WERE FUNDED BY THE SAME PPL THAT THE BYTCH SANGER WAS FUNDED BY I CANT IMAGINE THE PAIN YOU WOMEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND THE HURT IT MUST FEEL TO HAVE TO CHOOSE LIFE OR DEATH ,.I DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU WHEN AND WHEN NOT TO PROCREATE BUT ID LOVE IF YOU DIDNT GET ABORTIONS,..ONLY GOD THE ALMIGHTY HAS THAT CHOICE FOR YOU ,..AND WHY WOULD YOU KILL AN INNOCENT BABY NO MATTER HOW IT WAS CONCEIVED!?

  • reealty12

    i have had 4 abortions and they were all black babies so if anyone has question, just ask me!

  • YorkieLover

    Pro-Choice.
    Don’t have kids that you can’t take care of financially,mentally,or emotionally. If you’re not married or at least have a supportive “baby daddy”,then don’t have kids,and I mean he’s more that financially supportive.
    Too many babies having babies. Too many immature women and men bringing innocent lives into this cruel world. This is one of the root causes of the issues in the black community. Too many unwanted black babies and children.

    Look at the high number of black kids in foster care and adoption agencies around the world. Many of them are born without a chance. This isn’t the wild! Children need two stable parents to take care of them and black folks need to stop thinking that when their kids turn 18, they don’t have to parent anymore.

  • Ms.EJ

    Greetings to ALL :) hope everyone had a blessed day at church or in general….onto the topic.

    Seriously, is this ATTACK THE BLACK WOMAN MONTH!?, because it sure does seem that way. What is the sudden fascination about black women: who we are dating, what we are dating, why we aren’t dating, who doesn’t want to date us, why we are single, chocolate to white chocolate sista issues…I mean what is really going on?!!! How is it that to many media outlets or society per se we are not desired or at the bottom of the barrel (which is so not true) yet we seem to be the MAIN focus to many from sun down and sun up.

    @DENISE & NIKII- 100% agree.
    @URHEINESSTHEQUEEN- Very good points.

  • Capria30

    @ Nikki- I agree!

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    LOVE YOUR ENERGY AND POST AND YOU RIGHT ,..THIS CHIT IZ MYTHS,..ITS TO ET MORE BLK WOMEN TO ABORT THEY CHILDREN ,..I NEVER HEARD OF MEXICANS ABORTING THEY SEEDS AND WHY SHOULD WE …STOP TRYING EVERYTHING THESE PPL OFFER YOU ,..AND THEY GIVE THEM NAMES YOU FAMILIAR WITH ,..YAZ ,..AND SOME OTHER CHITS I CANT REMEMBER,…AND THESE COMMERCIALS ,… WITH BLK VOICES CLAIMING THEY TAKE THEIR HIV TEST ,..LIKE WE THE ONLY PPL THAT HAVE THIS PROBLEM, AIDS AND ALL THE CHIT …THEY MAKE OUR THE CARRIERS OF ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD ,..BUT YET WE STILL MIX AND SWIRL!

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @MsEJ: thank you :)

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    THAT LAST POST WAS FOR NIKI!

  • Marquis de Sade

    :lol: You sistas’ need to pool your financial resources, and hire a lobbyist and PR firm to clean up y’all f*cked up (but in most cases) well deserved image.

  • UrHeinessDaQueen

    @sarah: I though you would approve of my avi (like I give a damn!lol) I mean,after all,she is white just how you like em! lol

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    Yeap this is the dirty secret that no one wants to talk about. Add up the multiple abortions by a lot of single childless black professional women. Who have the nerve to turn their nose up and look down on the single hoodrat black women with babies. Who are also having multiple abortions so that they don’t have additional illegitimate babies by multiple baby daddies. And its easy see how you get to that percentage. While the so called black leaders (that includes civil rights activist, ministers and politicians) who receive large donations from, Planned Parenthood Federation of America and multiple liberal/women’s rights organizations, remain silent. Every ones at fault

  • Black1st

    abortion kill more black people then heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide, and chronic lower respiratory diseases combined…. Thats because our people spirt is broken…. We need more self knowledge and elimnate self hatred

    Black 1st

  • Mike

    @Glok

    I TOLD YOU PPL ABOUT THE BYTCH MARGARET SANGER AND HER DEALING WITH W.E.B. DUBOIS ,..WHEN SHE GAVE BLK MEN AT THE TUSKEEGEE STERILIZATION THIS BYTCH WAS BEHIND BIRTH CONTROL PILLS ?,..WOW DIDNT KNOW THAT ,..GOD SAID BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY ,..WHO THE F.UK ARE THESE PL TO TELL YOU NOT TO GIVE BIRTH
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    Good sh*t and very true. We all really need to study how birth control came on the scene, abortions, and the purpose for it. They do not want us to give birth. They have been trying to destroy us for decades and some of us believe whatever the government put in front of our faces. What I read about Margaret is one of the reasons why I am pro-life. I looked up the Dubois info you gave me the other week. Good stuff and thanks bruh.

  • williebobo

    I wish Little Waynes mother had an abortion.

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    THANK YOU @KEEP IT REAL ,..MANY BLK PROFESSIONALZ WOMEN HAVE ABORTED THEY’RE BABIES FOR CAREERS,…VERY WELL SAID TOO!

  • CoCoLipSTICK

    abortion kill more black people then heart disease, cancer, strokes, accidents, diabetes, homicide, and chronic lower respiratory diseases combined…. Thats because our people spirt is broken…. We need more self knowledge and elimnate self hatred

    Black 1st
    _________________________

    Agreed.

  • Black1st

    Denise
    Woman right? sweetie you need to learn your history… Planned Parenthood is an evil organization who main agenda is to elimnate black babies. They’re just doing a good job disguising it. Right after Hurricane Katrina the 1st Aid they send to New Orleans victims was birth control pills. After Haiti Earthquake Planned Parenthood immediately Sent workers to rebuild two Planned parenthood in Port au prince. Matter fact statistically 80% of Haitians have access to birth control pills but less than 30% have access to clean water. Sweetie we’re in a war and its time to wake up

    Black 1st!!!
    (excuse all the typo’s)

  • conceitedconceited

    @CoCoLipSTICK

    Where would the world be without saint bytches like you to tell everyone what is right and wrong. it is a sin to judge bytch so if all sinners are going to hell, i will see you there!

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    WHATZ GOOD MIKE, THANKS BROTHA ,…IM GLAD YOU DID, PPL THINK I MAKE THIS CHIT UP WE HAVE A GROUP OF OUR OWN THAT DONT WANT US MULTIPLYING AND BE FRUITFUL DUBOIS WAS ONE OF THEM THATZ EVEN SADDER ,THOSE BLK DOC ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM TOO,..YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD EDUCATE YOUNG SISTAZ AND MAKE THAT THEY DUTY ,..BUT THEY RATHER SEE US BECOME A STATISTIC!

  • http://bossip BEV

    I SO AGREE. ALL THE WOMEN WALKNG AROUND LIKE THEY HAVE NO KIDS. STAY AT THE CLINIC. YOU SHOLL AIN’T LYING. I MAY BE ONE, I MAY NOT BUT THATS SOME REAL SHISH!

  • Mike

    @Its me

    Black women have the most “reported” abortions. White people probably do it on the low, or they buy a pill under the table
    ————————————–

    You are right. They are reported the most, but white women have more. Just like more of us black men are in jail and it is reported the most, but more white men sell drugs, and get less years in prison or just a slap on the wrist. They have been trying to destroy our race for years and we all need to educate ourselves about what they started decades ago. I once saw something about the incarceration rates and wrongful sentencing of black men who were either framed or did not deserve 25 years in prison for selling drugs but I cannot think of the name of it to save my life. Margaret Sanger is good to read up on about how and why abortions were started.

  • Black1st

    Secret
    You are capable of having your own choice but believe or not the media is brainwashing us…. The media agenda is to brainswash you and make you do what it wants…. For example Rappers rap about fashion next thing you know we all buying what the rapper say its hot…. regardless of the price…..

    Black 1st

  • Black1st

    Its not about white women… its about why are we killing our babies in a rapid rate… why are we thinking and comparing ourselves to white people????? we blacks only make 13% of the U.S. population and we’re killing ourselves.

    Black 1st

  • Mike

    @Glok

    Im good bruh. People only think you make stuff up when they do not want to take the time to read anything. You cannot make up info about Margaret Sanger or Dubois. The info is out there if people just picked up a book more and see for themselves.

  • Truth

    “Black Women Are An Endangered Species” is a front for Republicans to achieve their agenda. To use RACIST arguments to try to BAIT black people to be anti-abortion is disgusting!

    No one is pro-abortion! The real question is, how are we going to HELP black women prevent unintended pregnancies? Unintended pregnancies are linked to larger health disparities… Let’s think of a way to fix that!

    There is NO such thing as an “abortion industry,” and it isn’t targeting black women! PLEASE inform yourself on the TRUTH…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/06/us/06abortion.html

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/15/2010-02-15_antiabortion_billboards_in_georgia_claim_black_children_are_endangered_species.html

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    DEPOPULATION IZ GONNA REAR ITZ UGLY HEAD SOON AND THEY TAKING CENSUS SOON SO THEY NEED ALL THIS INFO ON YOU BLK WOMEN ,..THEY FEEL YOU NOT ABORTING MORE AND THEY SEE THE SWIRL IZ ON AND POPPING AND THE WHITE RACE IZ DOING EVERYTHING TO KILL YOUR BLK BABIES,…I RESPECT THE MEXICAN AND LATINO FAMILY THEY DONT ABORT THEY SEED AND THEY AINT RICH EITHER ,..BUT THEY LOVE THE FAMILY LIFE AND I RESPECT THAT 1HUNNID!

  • karen

    dayum! You folks are really hating on the whites. Whats up with that? Makes ya’ll look small. don’t need to be that way, say your opinion and move on. Ya bring down the whole society acting racist.

  • Black1st

    For all youtube
    Mafaa21

  • Mike

    @Glok

    ,..STOP TAKING ALL THIS CHIT THEY GIVING YOU RESEARCH THAT MEDICINE YOU GET ASK QUESTION SISTAZ STOP TAKING CHIT CUZ THE WHITE MAN SAID YOU SHOULD …
    ——————————————–

    The best medicine come from naturopathic doctors. Notice how most insurance companies do not cover a visit to a naturopathic doctor. They want us to stay on pills full of chemicals that only get rid of the problems for a short amount of time. Naturopathic doctors try fix the problem and not the symptoms.

    We are killing each other too. I think it is best we read about our history, and what all has been put in place to destroy us and for us to do a better job of trying to mentor our own to teach them. We are doing a lot of this to ourselves, although I think it is what some people want, but we have the choice to keep things from happening. We need to do better with black on black crime, abortions, out of wedlock children, and all these baby daddies and moms. Some things can be fixed if we just think more.

  • washya

    @ rose , you are so stupid

  • Sarah

    IF YOU WALKED IN A ABORTION CLINIC AND TOLD THE BLACK WOMEN THE BABY IN THEIR WOMB IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE MARIAH CAREY AND NOT GABBY SIDIBE EVERY SINGLE BLACK WOMAN WOULD WALK OUT OF THE CLINIC.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    MARGERT SANGER WAS REAL PEOPLE, THIS ISN’T SOME KIND OF CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!

    She considered black people human weeds, weeds that deserved to be plucked out of existence. She viewed procreation of the black group a major threat to white supremacy.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    abortion causes more death in the black community then gang violence, hiv/aids, heart disease, and cancer combined.

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    MIKE, YOU DEAD RIGHT BRO, CANT KNOCK WHATZ ALREADY HISTORY,ITS JUST WE WERE BRAINWASHED INTO THINKING DUBOIS WAS FOR BLK PPL,..OUR HISTORY IZ JUST WHITEWASHED!!

    BLK WOMEN I ADVISE YOU TO INVESTIGATE THIS PROBLEM AND SPREAD THE WORDS,..SEE THE SIDE EFFECTS IZ GONNA HAVE ON YOU IN THE FUTURE STOP ALTERING YOUR SELVES TO PLZ OTHERS …SANGER THAT EVIL SCIENTIST WAS THE GIRLFRIEND OF W.G. WELLS LOOK THAT CREEP YOU AND ,..IT GOES BACK TO STERLIZATION …IF ANY BLK LEADERS OR FIGURES TELL YOU TO ABORT ,..DONT EVER TRUST THAT PERSON, CELEB AND WHATEVER, THEY FEAR US UNDESIREBLES WILL OVERPOPULATED THEM THATZ THEY BIGGEST FEAR AND ITS ETCHED IN STONE ,..LITERALLY, ITS CALLED THE GUIDESTONES IN GEORGIA…IF YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING TODAY TAKE SOME BINNOCULARS WITH YOU AND READ IT IN PLAIN KINGS ENGLISH ,…THEY WANT TO DEPOP THE PLANET TO ONLY 5,000,000 PPL!

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @karen

    No one is hating on white people, since when is saying the truth hating? White people place over 78 percent of abortion clinics in black communities. What is up with that? they want black women to have easy access to kill their unborn child.

    So stfu and stop talking shyt. thank you.

  • Secret

    @Black1st
    Not everyone follows some people are leaders. I let my son know what’s real and what’s not. A Rapper is not a factor in my life. He is not a reflection of me. HE is nothing that I aspire to be and there are alot of black people out here who feels the same way.

  • Black1st

    I don’t hate white people… I hate White Supremacy and the system

    Black 1st

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @conceited

    Stop blaming the murder of a child on a dead end, dead beat babby father that you chose to spread your legs to. Women need to take responsibility for their own bodies, you are the one that has to carry that child for 9 months not the man. You are also the one that makes the decision whether or not to murder your own child while it is still in the womb.

    I’m not anti black women, I’m pro black women. Millions of black female babies get aborted everyday.

    1,875 black babies are killed through abortion daily. Half of that number are most likely black females. So how am I anti black women? I’m trying to make an argument to save these black babies life.

    You want to be able to murder your children, you should be thrown in jail.

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    Yeah, you’re sooo right. It’s ashame that you sistas are allergic to the over 16 over the counter female contraceptives at y’all disposal…So I guess y’all’s reproductive system should be put on that long list chores, black men have to take responsibility for, huh, you worthless, disposable sanitary napkin with t.i.t.s?

  • serene

    I’m personally Pro life, thats just a personal view…however i believe in a woman’s right to choose politically. However, women who use abortion as a method of birth control make it hard to argue for them smh

    one of the reasons i could never get into the pro life politically is that not many believe that abortion should be done even if its a threat to the mother’s life…ie sarah palin…and i just absolutely disagree with that notion

  • Black1st

    Secret
    Its much deeper than the rappers.. i just gave you an example…. Our society is controlled by the Media.. The media tell us what to eat, what to do, what to think…. Im happy you take the time to teach your son wrong and right Thats exactly what all parents need to do… turn off the TV and read read and read…. Self Knowledge is the Key….

  • Somali Ninga

    PRO-LIFE!!!!!
    We should also be worrying about doctors giving WAY TOO MANY tube ligations(getting your tubes tired) to black woman in many black communities!!

  • Somali Ninga

    *tied*

  • Somali Ninga

    btw who margret sanger?

  • Marquis de Sade

    Marquis de Sade v2.0
    :lol: Goddamn, boy, sounds like you comin’ round to da’ way of the original Marquis de Sade (me).

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade v2.0

    it takes two to tango, this is a black woman and black man issue. because of the job i have i hear the worst stories of the circumstances some of these children are being born into. Bringing a child into this world to suffer is not the answer

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    LOL@ MARQUIS YOU CRAZY SON !

    @MIKE!
    RIGHT MIKE THEY WANT US HOOKD ON THEY DRUGS AND NOT NATURE OR THOSE NATUROPATHIC DOCTORS CUZ ITS A MARKETING SCHEME THEY GET PAID WE GET FU.KD AND HOKED ON SOME CHIT WE NEVER NEEDED ANYWAY AND WE PAYING FOR IT ,..WAKE UP PPL ,..GOOD POST CUZO YOU RIGHT ON

  • always knew

    BLK AMERICA,

    STOP KILLING BLK BABIES…

    IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SEX,

    USE PROTECTION…OTHERWISE, STOP

    KILLING BLK BABIES…

  • Soul Touch

    I know more non-black women who have had abortions then I do black women.

    But I think the issue these clinics are prevalent in the black community. But considering this and the stats of AIDS too many young black women are having unprotected sex, and that’s a problem.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @conceitedconceited

    You really are pathetic and delusional, if you lay down and spread your legs to a thug with no job what do you expect him to do? of course he is going to leave. That is why black women need to start making better choices with who the lay down in bed with. A lot of black women expect the thugs to stay there and raise the child together, but guess what? it doesn’t work like that.

    Yes it takes two to tangle, but it only takes one person, the female to murder her unborn child.

    Your pro-choice argument is VERY weak and irresponsible. You don’t blame murder on a dead beat father, you blame it on yourself because
    1. you chose to spread your legs to an irresponsible man
    2. you chose to walk into a abortion clinic and murder your child

  • Black1st

    Evry blk person should read: The Destruction of Black civilization…. Self Knowledge is the Key

    Black 1st

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    BUT YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL A BABY THATZ INSIDE YOU , THATZ MURDER THE TIME THAT SEED IZ A TURNS FRO SEMEN TO CREATION YOU KILLED WHAT NOT YOURS THAT THE CREATORS LIFE YOU WAS USED IN THE PROCESS AND AS A EARTH NURTURING THAT SEED ….”MS KERI” HILSON ,..SHE SAYING (MISCARRIED BABY) AND THATZ WHAT I THINK THATZ HOW DAT BYTCH BEYONCE AND OPRAH MANANGED TO STAY ON THE GAME ,..I THINK THEY SACRIFICED THEIR BABIES,..AND CALL IT A MISCARRIAGE ..AND DONT ACT LIKE YOU KNOW CUZ YOU ONLY SEE WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO SEE,..HEAR ABOUT THEY LIFES!

  • tell it like it is…

    Is abortion really the problem in the Black community? Or is it the failure to use contraception and PLAN pregnancies? I am pro-choice and feel that Black people need to stop creating babies that we know that we cannot properly raise.

    What do pro-lifers think that they will gain from encouraging women that do not want their babies to give birth? More prisons?

  • Niasia

    Regardless of a woman’s race it is her choice to do what she would like with her body. What I don’t get about pro life people is that once the child is here they really don’t care if there are limited or no resources if the parent should need them. As soon as budgets gets crunched the social programs are the first to be cut. So where is this zeal for the living child? These christians will have all this to say but where is their support for needy children? The pastor drives a benz and lives in a fancy house while the majority of the congregation can barely get such hypocrisy. I don’t understand why people think planned parenthoods only perform abortions. When I had no insurance after college I went to PH for my annual check up at little to no costs. Why we villify women’s clinics is beyond me. Why we feel as if we can’t trust women to do what is best for OUR bodies is beyond me as well.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @Marquis de Sade

    You are on a roll today, we can agree on something. For a 1.0 model you are actually more intelligent then I initially anticipated.

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    @a rose by any other name # 9304026339482056536
    They are lying about that, we all know white women have way more abortions than black women.. they lie like a rug and then the lying SOB’s turn around and say black women have more kids than whites! They lie! Stop believing all that crap they put off on black folks!!
    ****************************
    Why is it hard to believe that they make up a higer percentage of abortions when blacks have a higher percentage of STD’s and HIV cases. Are the STD and HIV cases also made up?

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Keena

    You are right. Black folks engage in too risky sexual behavior but instead of, like an addict, admitting you have a problem, you want to blame the statistics.

  • conceitedconceited

    i find it strange that the same anti-choice black men in here are the same ones who either
    1) have a child they do not see or pay for (by choice)
    2) have stabbed/robbed or even killed another black man in his life time…hypocrite much? there are murders in jail who are anti- abortion.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia,

    So basically these women are going to threaten society with abotion if they dont take care of their kids after the fact? How about the issue is not getting pregnant in the first place which isnt the most difficult thing to do if you are using a hormonal pill and Prophylactic.

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    Uhhh, darlin’ do I sound like the typical garden variety thug, you’ve obviously made the mistake of socializin’/mating with?

    Projectin’ much?

  • Soul Touch

    @Marques

    I respect you as well, and I agree those cases are a small minority. But because of those minute cases, the choice has to be left open. Once you close that door, or set that option aside to be the exclusive condition, you leave the door wide open for it to go underground/black market abortions.

    But I can only set standards for myself…for all the reasons you state, I would never have an abortion. And women who carelessly do so I have a problem with.

  • Niasia

    I want to add if MEN were the ones to have children you had better believe they wouldn’t want to hear what women think and also this whole abortion issue wouldn’t exist it would be legal with no option for debate. Some of the same pro life people are for the death penalty and some of them may even be killers themselves. And ok if the person made a mistake or were irresponsible as you say who are you to judge them. I really don’t get some people’s obsession with other people’s lives and choices. As long as your life is lead in the manner you see fit shouldn’t that be enough? And also I never hear anyone mention over population of the planet…there are too many of us here anyway. Worry about this all you want none of us may be here in the near future…as the Earth is reaching her limit with our BS.

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    @Sarah

    IF YOU WALKED IN A ABORTION CLINIC AND TOLD THE BLACK WOMEN THE BABY IN THEIR WOMB IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE MARIAH CAREY AND NOT GABBY SIDIBE EVERY SINGLE BLACK WOMAN WOULD WALK OUT OF THE CLINIC
    *******************************
    If that’s the case you would have been aborted. I’m sure you look a hell of a look more like Gabby than Mariah.

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    SOMALI !
    SANGER WAS A GERMAN BYTCH WHO STUDIED EUGENICS AND CAME UP WITH AWAY TO HELP DEPOP THE PLANET OF BLKS AND OTHER RACES SO CALLED JEWS ESPECIALLY..DEHUMANALIZATION!

  • Mike

    @Keena

    What we need to do is bring back Black pride and stop selling ourselves out so that less than one percent of the Black population can make some money (entertainers).
    ———————————–

    I agree about Black pride. I have former Black Panthers in my family and our family, and my wifes, has a lot of unity.

  • Marquis de Sade

    Niasia
    :lol: Trust, if Mother Nature flipped the script to the tune of men gettin’ pregnant tomorrow, we’d be buyin birth control by the CASE! – And within the next few years the world’s population would decrease exponentially.

  • Black1st

    Gabby is a Beautiful African Sister… Why do we glorify Light skinned ppl with Blond hair???? why do we promote Self Hatred… Black people lets stop improving eurocentric Standard of beauty

    Black 1st

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia,

    LOL comparing a baby in the womb and a person on death row. Ha. I see no contradiction whatsoever. You forfeit your life when you commit a heinous act of murder or murders. Babies dont forfeit theirs. There is no one for you do prevent someone murdering someone else in most cases but there is a way, many many many ways for you to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

    Also We dont have a over population problem we have na OVER consumption problem and it starts right here in America. So let me ask you a question how many pairs of shoes do you own and how many are you willing to get rid of? Funny how you want to abort babies in order to reduce the population size so you can go on over consuming. Why dont you get rid of your car and take public transportation. Of course not. Better to abort babies.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade v2.0

    I don’t have kids and i have never had an abortion yet but i don’t understand how people can put a blanket over everyone’s life and tell them what is right and wrong like they are perfect. it’s even worse when people bring god in the situation, it’s easy to say ‘keep the child’ or ‘close your legs’ but there are married women getting abortions.
    there are certain deformities that can be detected in the womb, some women find out that there child will be born with a disability so they decide to terminate the pregnancy. Every
    c i r c u m stance and situation is different

  • http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/imgpop.php?img=http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/client_images/kanyewest/3164_b0e5bda4c46c8d17b6cf25713d3170ac.jpg Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    Data from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that black women get almost 40 percent of the country’s abortions, even though blacks make up only 13 percent of the population.
    ___________________________________________

    WOW, this stat. can’t be right??? SMMFH

    That info. coupled with the fact that HIV/AIDS is the #1 killer of Black Women 18 – 34 just goes to show how irresponsible Black Women are and how they don’t take the necessary precautions to avoid both PREVENTABLE outcomes = unwanted pregnancies & HIV/AIDS…

    Yes, Black Men are irresponsible too – BUT as a woman/individual it doesn’t make sense to put your future, life and livelihood in the hands of another person… SMMFH

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    We’re ain’t talkin’ bout married women. We’re talkin’ bout the over 70% of A.A. children bein’ born out of wedlock. We’re talkin’ bout the 68% of A.A. children bein’ raised in a single parent household. Stop actin’ new up in here. It’s Annoyin’.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @conceitedconceited

    I can agree with your last post, finally you are making some sense now. All the circumstances you listed were all plausible arguments.

    Still and yet most abortion cases come from mothers that choose to use murder as a contraceptive. look up the facts if you don’t believe me. People must take accountability for their own actions, don’t murder a child because you chose to be irresponsible. That isn’t fair!

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    conceitedconceited

    it takes two to tango, this is a black woman and black man issue. because of the job i have i hear the worst stories of the cir*****stances some of these children are being born into. Bringing a child into this world to suffer is not the answer
    ********************************
    If the goverment stopped giving cash ie. public aid and ssi (the new public aid) for babies the precentage of blacks with STD’s, HIV, abortions and unwanted pregnancies would drop overnight. Give them food stamps, some clothes, health care, temporary housing and that’s it.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Niasia

    So true, im only 22 but even i try not to be judgmental. life has a funny way of catching up with you and i find that judgmental people get it the worst. i guess that’s why they say you can’t tell what you would do unless u have been there.

  • Black1st

    Abortion was legalized in America by white eugenicists. After careful observation determined that white women sought illegal abortions at higher rates than black women, but where abortion was legalized, that trend reversed.

    As Justice Ginsburg put it in an interview with the New York Times, Roe v Wade was concern over what she called “populations we don’t want to have too many of.”

    Abortion may be killing both blacks and whites today, but it kills blacks at overwhelmingly disproportional rates. Self Knowledge!!!!

    Black 1st

  • Marquis de Sade

    Lisa

    All trollin’ aside, the system doesn’t want black babies gone, the system is just tired of shoulderin’ the responsibility for irresponsible behavior.

    If y’all been keepin’ up on current events, this country is teeterin’ on a major economic collapse. That bein’ said, you baby mamas won’t have WHITE LIBERAL GUILT in the form of PUBLIC A$$ISTANCE to subsidize your bad choices in life.

  • Niasia

    @marquis

    Honey again you can SAY all you want…you have not lived dear. At 29 I am very different than I was at 19. And it didn’t take my education, my career, money or lack there of to teach me. The lessons and wisdom had to be lived. It would be crazy of me to think I have the same life experience as a 35, 39, 40 or so on…Only time can teach us. You never ever know where oyu will be 5 years from now. Do you have your own place or live with your parents or with a room mate or in a dorm? Do you have a career? Car note? Bills out the ying yang? I don’t believe you do. Couple all those things with having to maintain and you will yearn for the simplicity of being a 19 yr old at the university. Of course you “know” what not to do…but life can present with all types of situations that you have no idea they even exist…poor thing you really thing you are wise. I can just shake my head.

  • Yogi

    As someone who works with all of the unwanted black children in foster care (yes I am black) I want people to remember two things 1)babies don’t stay babies forever and 2) it is next too impossible to place a 13 year old black male in foster care in a stable setting (most of these kids get bounced from home to home. People who can’t raise their own kids should not have them and should not be judged for their decision. People who disagree with this should then foster/adopt these kids since they are so eager for them to be born.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @conceitedconceited

    Because I choose not to murder unborn babies I’m somehow “judgmental”? That doesn’t make me judgmental sweet heart is makes me responsible, educated and logical. I don’t know what planet you are on but please come back to earth.

  • Niasia

    @conceited

    They always do honey they always do.

  • Black1st

    Anyone who Defend Abortion don’t value life….

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    BIRTH AFECTS COME THE STUDY OF DE.H.U.M.A.N.A.L.I.ZATION AND THIS IZ THE CUAES OF THES ROBLEMS SHE WAS AGAINST BIOLOGY AND A OCCULT MEMEBER UNDER HITLER,..YOU KNOW HIS HEALTH CARE AND OBAMA HEALTH CARE ARE THE SAME ,..THANK YOU MR PREZ OBAMA YOU ARE DOING A REPEAT OF HITLER ON DOWN TO THE SIMILIAR ADVERTISEMENT OF THE BAPHOMET CROUCH WITH THE TWO SNAKES WRAPPED AROUND THE DIK..WE SEE ON THE ABULANCES ALL THE TIME WITH SATANS FALLEN ANGEL WINGS….ITS SIMPLE AND I DONT SEE WHY YOU PPL DONT GET IT ,,..THEY WANT YOU DEAD OUT OF THEY F.UKKING WAY THEY CAN STAND YOU ,…AND STAY UP DAY AND NIGHT THINKING OF HOW TO GET RID OF YOUR AZZ…AND BABIES AND THE ELDERLY…ELDERLY FROM THEY GOD GIVEN WISDOM ,…AND BABIES FOR THERE STARTING NEW IN THE WORLD AND THEY CAN USE AND KORRUPT THEIR IMPRESSIONABLE FRESH MINDS!

  • Niasia

    @Marquis

    The option is not yours to make..so of course you would not have an abortion. Easy to say what YOU wouldn’t do when it is an obstacle you can NEVER face…like I said oyu think you are wise. That’s like me saying I would never get a vascectomy….of course I wouldn’t because I can’t physically have one…you tickle me you really do. I love how you can pontificate on life situations that you will never ever face.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @Niasia

    You are 29 and yes you have lived longer then I have but you still have no value or appreciation for human life. This isn’t about car notes, and living environments. This is about the murder of innocent children because females choose to use murder as a contraceptive then go out to the club the next night partying like nothing happened.

    Wake up, Don’t let my age fool you. I have had more life experiences and dilemma’s then most people twice my age have had. Wake up and be more responsible.

    1,876 black babies die everyday through abortion. 98 percent of that number is due to the carelessness of black women getting knocked up by losers and not using protection. sleep on that bit of information, and please don’t get overwhelmed you are a 29 yr old after all you should be able to handle it.

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    70% of A.A. children bein’ born out of wedlock. We’re talkin’ bout the 68% of A.A. children bein’ raised in a single parent household.
    __________________________________________

    @Marquis de Sade

    YES, When are we going to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with that BULLSH*T!!!

    You are not doing right by the child by raising him/her like that, I DON’T GIVE A F*CK if you were raised that way or not and feel that it’s ok, that is NOT the best way to raise a child and y’all know right from wrong!!!

    Damn, why do we as a People LOVE TO EMBRACE dysfunction???

    WRONG is WRONG!!!

    Once you know better, you DO better!!!

    Stop making excuses, grow up and be mature and do the RIGHT thing!!!

  • Somali Ninga

    @ Glok
    ur right!!! OBAMA’s helath care reform is VERY SIMLIAR to Hitler’s T4 PROGRAM!!! PPL are too dumb and ignorant to understand that Obama is a puppet for the Illuminati!!!

  • conceitedconceited

    Black1st

    It’s not about defending abortion, it is about defending the woman’s right to decide what is best for her and the situation she is in.
    how can you judge a situation you have never been in yourself?

  • Black1st

    Carebear your a breath of fresh air in this forum… We need awareness within the black community…. Mafaa21 breaks it down for all to witness

    Black1st

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade v2.0

    So it’s just about life? the quality of life has no bearing…then how do you explain suicide rates?

  • always knew

    SUICIDE/ GENOCIDE…

    BLK PEOPLE, WAKE UP!…

  • always knew

    @slide-”Damn, why do we as a People LOVE TO EMBRACE dysfunction???”
    _______________________________

    I wish I had the answer…

    one of the more observant posts!

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    NOW I WILL ASK SOME OF THESE FOLKS WHO SUPPORT OBAMA THIS THIS ONE QUESTION AND PLZ ANSWER WITH KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU SPEAK IF NOT THEN SHUT THE F.UK UP AHEAD OF TIME OK?….HERE IZ THIS DEVIL HENRY KISSINGER WHO OUR PREZ HAS IN HIZ WICKED ORG WANTS MR IMF LOANS AND HIS BANKER BUFFOONZ WANTS….HE WANTS AND HAS ALREADY USES FOOD AS A WEAPON HERE IZ WHAT HE SAID BACK IN 1974 AND THEY FUD THIS WITH YOU MONEY TAX DOLLARS….HE SAID DEPOP SHOULD BE THE HIGHEST PRIORITY OF FOREGN POLICY TOWARDS THE THIRD WORLD AND THEY DOING IT ,..JUST YESTERDAY CHILE ,..AND THAT FAKE AND FLASE TSUNAMI WARNING TO HAWAII ,..WHEN THEY KNOW THEY HAVE MILITARY BASES THERE THEY NOT GONA TOUCH THAT PLACE IT WAS TO THROW YOU IGMOZ OFF LIKE USUAL….AND YOU BLAME GOD AND KILL HIS NEW BORN INSIDE YOU AND BREAK COMMANDMENTS HIS MOST IMPORTANT..THOU SHALL NOT KILL , YOU DONT KNOW WHAT BLESSING MAY HAVE BEEN INSIDE YOU A GIFT INDEED…HOW DARE YOU SEND THAT SOUL YOU WAS BLESSED WITH BY HIM FOR YOUR OWN SELFISHNESS AND VAINISMS!

  • carebear

    If you don’t want a child, U should use proper birth control. If you’re going raw, what do u expect? If you’re not using condoms and birth control pills effectively, you should not be getting an abortion. U know exactly what happens if a man goes in you raw. If you’re not able to take care of a kid, u shouldn’t be having sex. Stop defending an agenda to destroy the black community.

  • always knew

    @Ej-”What is the sudden fascination about black women: who we are dating, what we are dating, why we aren’t dating, who doesn’t want to date us, why we are single, chocolate to white chocolate sista issues…I mean what is really going on?!!! How is it that to many media outlets or society per se we are not desired or at the bottom of the barrel (which is so not true) yet we seem to be the MAIN focus to many from sun down and sun up.”
    ______________________________________

    all day, every day…

    I mean I like discussing relevant issues as much

    as anyone else, BUT…

    THIS SITE REALLY DOES DOG BLK WOMEN… :(

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia,

    We are the same age and yes you are FAR more ignorant than MArquis De Sade is who could have fooled me. I thought he was older than me.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade

    Just because i try not to look down my nose at people does not mean that i am not careful myself. i ‘live’ and i let live, you want to know why i am pro-choice? because i know that nothing is perfect in life and i have not had an abortion but i have made mistakes so how can i ask god to forgive me for my sins but then judge others?

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @Niasia

    Sorry to hear that sweet heart, however I have dealt with just as much if not more then you have. But I don’t play a victim, I take responsibility of myself and rise to the occasion when I have to.

    This isn’t about who has had the more difficult life it is about the carelessness of women murdering babies. When you can give an intelligent answer instead of playing the sympathy card, poking fun at my age, and making excuses for your lack of morality then I will respond to you again, until then later. not talking to you anymore.

  • Mike

    @SLide Like A Fresh

    You are not doing right by the child by raising him/her like that, I DON’T GIVE A F*CK if you were raised that way or not and feel that it’s ok, that is NOT the best way to raise a child and y’all know right from wrong!!!

    Damn, why do we as a People LOVE TO EMBRACE dysfunction???
    ———————————————

    Exactly right. Some of us look down on children born out of wedlock but do not believe in marriage. I do not get it. I think if we are able to mentor a young boy or young girl and we really hate dysfunction, than we should. Solutions are always better than just discussion.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @kigali- Life for Dummies

    Exactly, for a 29 yr old this woman is very ignorant. I’m surprised she has enough intelligence to turn on her computer…smfh.

  • Marquis de Sade v2.0

    @Marquis de Sade

    exactly, they just rather be irresponsible. It is always easier to be irresponsible then to take precautionary measures for yourself. I guess the task of using a condom or birth control pill is just far to tedious for her to handle. smfh

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @TJ

    Yes more white women have abortions because they are the largest group of women in this country. However we are talking about proportionality. A disproportionate number of black females are having abortions when they represent about 13% of the population.

  • Mike

    @Marquis

    the system doesn’t want black babies gone, the system is just tired of shoulderin’ the responsibility for irresponsible behavior.
    ———————————————

    Oh yes they do. Just because racism isnt so in your face like it was decades ago, does not mean things have change. Racism is just institutionalized now. That is why we all have to make better choices for what we do. Some things we can prevent ourselves.

  • Marquis de Sade

    “kigali- Life for Dummies
    2/28/10, 15:22:pm

    @Niasia,

    We are the same age and yes you are FAR more ignorant than MArquis De Sade is who could have fooled me. I thought he was older than me.”
    :lol: Kigali, i’m the original Marquis de Sade, The 2.0 version is a totally different person. Check the properties, darlin’.

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    I wish I had the answer…
    _________________________________________

    @always knew

    Sis, I’m not saying that I’m perfect but let’s be real here – WE AS A PEOPLE ABSOLUTELY NEED to stop doing some of the things that are holding us back and START DOING the things that some of the others are doing that’s helping them go further!!!

    We need to stop focusing on bullsh*t and start focusing on important things such as = education, financial literacy, etc…

    Alright, since I got on the Sistas before let me get on the Brothas… We have to stop with the STUPID sh*t that we be doing also = thinking it’s cool to have a bunch of different girlfriends at the same time, putting rims on a hooptie (*and the rims are worth more than the car), telling a girl “It feels better without a c*ndom and I’ma pull it out right before I bust I promise”…

  • Niasia

    @Marquis and Kigali

    So because a person differs in opinion that makes them ignorant?!? says a lot about you both. Like “conceited” said I live and let live. You can be Pro life as I can be pro choice. As of right now abortion is legal so you can be free to have your opinions but it doesn’t affect women’s right to choose. In life people will differ in opnions and choices that does not equate to ignorance. As long as abortion is legal your OPINION doesn’t have any affect on this topic. SO argue it as you may…women will still have the RIGHT to do with their bodies as they choose. You can call me ignorant all you like…seems like I know the law on this one. Women have the right to choose. Now when your opinion affects law then maybe we will have a problem. In the mean time Marquis don’t have an abortion and (Last time I checked men can’t even get pregnant) and Kigali you don’t get one either…that is your CHOICE.

  • http://Bossip Keep it Real

    Blocked!

  • Niasia

    I want to add that through out this thread no one really argues the things that affect the LIVING child…We seem to be missing those points. There are way more obstacles in our community other than abortion. And the blame for those issues can’t be paced on the mothers or the father’s but ALL of us. I do a lot of volunteering in the city and a lot of it will be in poor black communities, maybe about 10 out 100 people are black.These will be big SERVATHONS so the outreach for involvement is huge but only a handful of our people bother to show up. So argue all you like about these here abortions but what are you doing for the child who is here on this earth?

  • Black1st

    Conceited
    Do you know the history of the word “Women Rights” ?

    Black 1st

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Marquis De Sade,

    I am freaking confused. Never mind.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Keep it Real

    If the goverment stopped giving cash ie. public aid and ssi (the new public aid) for babies the precentage of blacks with STD’s, HIV, abortions and unwanted pregnancies would drop overnight. Give them food stamps, some clothes, health care, temporary housing and that’s it.
    —————–
    If the government stopped giving out public aid the only thing that would change is that there would be more children growing up in poverty. if public aid is so enticing, why is the abortion rate still so high?

  • conceitedconceited

    @Black1st

    im sure your going to tell me

  • Candy Barr

    This story is so stupid. We need to worry about education in the Black community, and pull ourselves out of this cycle. I am a Black Catholic, and encourage abortions, even amongst my high school students. I work as a substitute teacher in California, and have had 30 pregnant freshmen so far this year, albiet they are Hispanic. The same goes for them, though.

  • Marquis de Sade

    “why is the abortion rate still so high?”

    Cuz amongst most sistas’, CLUBBIN’ & F*CKIN’ is more of a priority than takin’ tha’ pill or the M.A.P.(Morning After Pill) :lol:

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    I am tired of black females using the myth of the DL black men to cover up her ho tracks.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Slide

    BTW you have been slippin lately. Whats up with you?

  • Corey

    I seriously dont think abortions are one of the major problems in the black community. Our problem is what eventually happens to the babies that are actually born. Poor education rates, high unemployment rates, and high incarceration rates are our biggest problems. We are not suffering from a lack of people, just a lack of people on the right path.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia

    Supporting abortion is the opposite of ‘Live and Let Live’. Youre not letting that child live.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Mike
    @SLide

    And more to the point, if there are a bunch of DL men giving black female HIV wouldnt they also be giving them other STDS and impregnating them? It only seems like the only time we talk about “down low” black men is when the issues of HIV comes up. If you are getting HIV from the man you are getting other STDs and getting pregnant by him too.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade

    You do know that no contraception is 100% effective except abstinence, so maybe you should be promoting abstinence instead. or are you too much of a freak to promote that?

  • always knew

    same people spend ALL day debasing blk women…

    I wonder where it gets them, it must help them sleep GOOD at night…

    I mean, why else would they bother??

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Marquis De Sade 2.0

    Welcome. You should really consider getting your own special SN. Marquis De sade is a hard act to follow.

  • Black1st

    @Conceited
    During the Civil Right Era we were “STRONG” and Black men and Black women considered thereself one (Africans)… We fought hard for equality and intergation…. But the Devil mother (The white women) Confronted our Queens (Black women) to turn their backs on black men and fight for “Women Rights” and thats exactly what happened Our Queens got brainwashed and looked at black men as the enemy and forgot all about the civil right movement… Lets fast forward a lil …..WHITE women got the right to vote while blacks didnt get NADA…..The reason why we accepted abortion is because we lost family values and lost the knowledge of self

  • always knew

    If you are blk and hate blk females,

    you do realize,

    that you hate yourself, correct?

    After all, if you are blk, didn’t you

    come out of blk female? Why so much hate?

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @always knew

    Judging by all these articles about black females that have been coming up it seems like black females spend all day and night debasing themselves.

  • always knew

    Generalizations! here we go…

    Disinformation! Half-truths, blame for everything

    wrong in the blk community,

    on the blk female. The blk male is forever a

    child, and not to be respected or admonished for

    his part.Let’s just keep blaming the blk female

    about everything… That’s inteligent and it

    makes, all the points you bring up, more valid,

    because everyone knows blk females aren’t good for

    anything… NOT! you people are very close

    minded and nthing tht you say, shol be taken

    without a grain of salt…

  • always knew

    “nothing that you say should be taken without a rain of salt…”

    sorry about the typos, typing too fast..

  • always knew

    intelligent*

  • Black1st

    Willie Lynch Letter is still working on us
    Blk men Vs Blk women stop the madness….. Our Ancestor is rolling in their grave as we speak!!!!

    Black 1st

  • http://bossip KeepitReal

    Why am I blocked?

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    “You do know that no contraception is 100% effective except abstinence, so maybe you should be promoting abstinence instead. or are you too much of a freak to promote that?”

    The least effective contraceptive on the market is the male condom, due to slippage, breakage and leakage…But accordin’ to most of you sistas’, the 16 or so female contraceptives are equally ineffective, but here is the “RUB”, those said 16 female contraceptives are only useless cuz most SISTAS’ refuse to USE them!

    Oh, and btw, the M.A.P. (to my knowledge) is 100% effective at terminatin’ the mistake before it develops a living, beating heart, thus sparin’ you the whole moral quandary of murderin’ a poor innocent child. (That’s only if you’re ladened with a true conscious).

  • conceitedconceited

    @Black1st

    there were also whites who fought for civil rights.
    there are women who have abortions but they go on to have children in later life because she is in a better situation so family values are not lost

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    BTW you have been slippin lately.
    _________________________________________

    @Kigali

    Sis, what are you talking about???

    And NO, I wasn’t WRONG, homegirl saw the dudes with her OWN 2 eyes coming to their place… What are you talking about…

    Stop being pressed to get on Black Women all of the time and with ANY chance that you get, LOL… All I was doing was telling Mike of a story about DL dudes that I’m aware of – I wasn’t saying that those fruity a$$ ni@@as are responsible for the large percentage of HIV/AIDS cases, that in and of itself doesn’t add up…

  • Marquis de Sade

    Ooops! *CONSCIENCE* Sorry for the typo.

  • Niasia

    @Kigali

    You didn’t adress the right to differing opinions…we differ in opinion. Can you not accept that? I will not agree with your opinion and you will not agree with mine. Simple as that…I am not berating you or telling you it is wrong. Because like I said the LAW allows women to make the choice. You can be pro life all you like. Nothing you say can change my mind and I do not strive to change yours. As long as the law doesn’t change I could care less about the pro life thought process. Never called it stupid or ignorant, simply said it is not my opinion or thought process. Seems you like to make your point with negative berating words…tsk tsk. But I am the ignorant one.

  • Black1st

    Concieted
    Yes Their were Jews, Asian and Whites who March in the civil right but believe me they had their OWN agenda….Their purposes was to be seen and delude the movement…..

    Black 1st

  • I’m So AppalledV2.0

    Ok I changed my SN to eliminate any kind of confusion with me and the original marquis. I still kept the 2.0 at the end though, it makes me sound more bad azz :)

  • real black is chocolate

    white man very much want to destroy black community and black race today!!

    They want that we:

    Have mixed up with whites
    hate yourself
    to love whites
    to respect whites
    And always depended on them

    pls black ppl wake up mathaf’cka!

  • Mike

    @Kigali

    I am tired of black females using the myth of the DL black men to cover up her ho tracks.
    =—————————————————-

    No one said that black women are trying to cover up their ho tracks. I simply said all black women with HIV did not get it from a thug, or were not hoeing and are not irresponsible. Why do you seem so upset? Things I have seen, I know about it, and have heard stories from my family.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Slide

    You have shamed me. LOL. I do it for brothers like you who I dont like to see dragged through the mud buy slander and lies. You guys have enough to deal with in this life. But I will chill though.

  • real black is chocolate

    AIDS were invented by WHITES!

  • real black is chocolate

    Black1st

    wake up mathaf’cka!

  • Niasia

    I dont understand how ALL of the blame goes only to the black females. Both men and women are having higher rates of HIV. The woman can’t get pregnant on her own and she isn’t getting the AIDS from herself. I really don’t get how it is all our fault. The men take no accountability in anything.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia

    Abortion is a moral issue not a legal one. It is amoral to have an abortion if your life is not threatened as far as I am concerned. It isnt about opinions. To me having an opinion about the legality of abortion is like having an opinion about child molestation. It is wrong even if it was legal.

  • SGKM

    I think women (of all ethnicities) should not use abortions as birth control.

    By the way, @Sarah, you’re an idiot.

    SGKM

  • Black1st

    real black is chocolate
    Brother i wake up a VERY long time ago…. Im about Black 1st Black Excellence and Black the way of life….. My African Ancestor blood run through my veins and heart….. Im pro- Black not Anti-black females

  • TheOriginalBlkBarbie

    @ Sarah…what an irrelevant, trivial comment for such a serious topic. If you dislike black people so much (even though you claim to be one) then WHY in heavens name are you on a BLACK gossip site. *sigh*

    Anyways…Pro-Life! Also, I am not too sure about this statistic. It seems a bit suspect. Most of the black people that I know do not sanction abortion whatsoever. I also know that many white women are abusing birth control left and right (this is not to say that women of other racial/ethnic backgrounds never do so). Sometimes I truly wonder where people get these numbers, but maybe it’s MY perspective that is skewed hmmm…

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    Are you bein’ purposely dense for argument sake? What part of “MEN DON’T GET PREGNANT” do you not understand?

    It sounds like your beef is with GOD/MOTHER NATURE, not men.

    I reiterate, there’s no excuse for women to get pregnant by accident in this day n’ age.

    For a FEMINIST, you’re comin’ off as a modern day PRE-MEDITATED VICTIMIZED WILMA FLINSTONE. Stop the madness, and just admit your logic has no validity.

  • progressive woman

    @kigali

    Its sad and frustrating to see woman having STD while pregnant….Also, women getting down right angry becasue her public aid card doesnt pay for abortions in our state.(only in california,hawaii,new york,and minnesota will a public aid card pay for elective abortion), but they cant get it done there becuase they are too far.

  • conceitedconceited

    @kigali- Life for Dummies

    Child molestation is illegal abortion is not, so yes it is a matter of opinion. Putting abortion in the same category as child molestation is YOUR opinion

  • real black is chocolate

    black women you need teach, love, respect and care about your black son or men and we always be with you!

  • Niasia

    @kigali

    Ok you think it’s amoral don’t do it. Simple as that. Like I said the law allows women to decide whether they want to make that “amoral” choice. Simple as that. You want to change the law why don’t you try :-) until then women can still make the choice.

  • Mike

    *they should know the chances of them getting HIV.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @conceitedconceited

    More children survive molestation than abortion.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade

    WOMEN DO NOT GET THEMSELVES PREGNANT- i can type in caps too.

    if your posts were balanced i would not have a problem with them. if you had a s*e*x education cl*a*s*s would you send the boys out because they cannot get pregnant?

  • progressive woman

    @kigali
    this is off subject. but, I know you said you have family in Haiti. How is your family?

    @conceitedconceited
    birth control is 100% effective, but its the women that fail to properly use it:It always the case of the women skip a day or didnt take it at the same exact time as always or didnt use a condom when they skip that day of BC

    @marques
    how are you this late afternoon?

  • Niasia

    @ Kigali

    so the woman is the only one there to make a choice? Again it’s all the woman’s fault. Where is the males responsibiity in this? BOth people can make the choice to wrap it up if NEITHER one makes that choice they BOTH are equally responsible…simple as that. In essence what you are saying is men are stupid and irresponsible and women shoud know this so we should always be the responsible one becaues to depend on a man to make a smart choice is not an option. ok now I get it…so why do we need men again?

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Progressive Woman

    Yes it is sad for a woman to not only be pregnant but to have an STD. Instead of blaming Margerat Sanger and others they perhaps need to look in the mirror.

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Niasia,

    Do both men and women have a choice about carrying the baby to term? Does a man have the responsibility to make that choice for the woman? Of course not because than it becomes her body and her baby. So much for dual responsibility. Men and women arent the same biologically. Our vaginas love to cling onto living organism. We are at GREATER risk therefore we need to take GREATER responsibility. Now if as a woman, you are unwilling to take GREATER responsibility, close your legs. Thats all I can tell you.

    You can go on and on and on about what a man has to do but you will never see a man in the maternity wing of any hospital giving birth.

  • http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/imgpop.php?img=http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/client_images/kanyewest/3164_b0e5bda4c46c8d17b6cf25713d3170ac.jpg Slide Like A Fresh Pair of Gators

    I do it for brothers like you who I dont like to see dragged through the mud buy slander and lies. You guys have enough to deal with in this life. But I will chill though.
    ____________________________________________

    @Kigali

    LOL…

    OH HELL NO, I don’t want you to chill!!! MOST of what you say is the truth I don’t have a problem with the majority of what you say, you better NOT stop!!! If what you are saying is TRUE why should you stop??? Some of these females don’t like hearing the truth and feel as though they are above reproach… SMMFH

    I think you just misread what me and Mike what saying & talking about and that is in some cases Fruity A$$ ni@@as are the ones to blame AT TIMES and in SOME cases to Black Women getting HIV/AIDS… I have no idea on the numbers and wouldn’t venture to guess…

    But regardless, I’ll stand by my initial post and what I believe to be your sentiment as well and that is Black Women need to make it there business to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies, STD’s & HIV/AIDS…

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Progressive WOman

    Actually everyone in Haiti is fine. Just spoke to someone yesterday on facebook.

  • Marquis de Sade

    conceitedconceited

    Yes, abortion is legal, but ask yourself, why would you want to put yourself thru the indignity of such an intrusive procedure that couldn’ve been prevented with the simple ingestion of a pill?

    Why would any woman want a doctor to shove the equivalent of a Hoover vacuum cleaner nozzle up their va jay jay just so they can get their “HELEN REDDY” “I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR” on?

    Is it that important to express your feminist sensibilities at the risk of your own humanity?

  • conceitedconceited

    @progressive woman

    Abstinence is the only contraception that is 100% affective that i can find. i didn’t know that a medication could be 100%

  • Marquis de Sade

    “conceitedconceited
    2/28/10, 16:39:pm

    @Marquis de Sade

    WOMEN DO NOT GET THEMSELVES PREGNANT- i can type in caps too.

    if your posts were balanced i would not have a problem with them. if you had a s*e*x education cl*a*s*s would you send the boys out because they cannot get pregnant?”

    Uhhh, unlike boys, girls have more to lose if they get pregnant.

    I reiterate, does your feminist sensibilities supercede your common sense?

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @Mike

    Thats gonna be ridiculous. Then they have Shaq on the Cavs. Best Finals EVER! Besides the Magic Bird rivalry.

    I am a Los Angelino. My husband doesnt allow anything negative about Kobe in our house. I think I will piss him off and get a tatt of shaq on my arm. LOL.

  • Marquis de Sade

    progressive woman

    Hello, Progressive Woman. Hows’ it goin’?

  • Niasia

    @ Marquis

    Women have more to lose with a child?? Thats the problem right there…both people are responsible for the child but the man has been taught and given the option to leave when he feels like it and offer no support. I bet if women handed the children over to men more often this problem wouldn’t be so exacerbated.

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    Abortion is a fancy term for murder. Why are we still arguing about this issue?

    Females are the ones that have to carry the child therefore most of the responsibility falls of the females shoulders. Yes I know it is unfair that the responsibility of childbearing falls on the female but take your argument up with g0d I didn’t make the rules. Use PROPER contraceptives, abortion shouldn’t be used as a contraceptive because you chose to spread your legs without a condom or the indigestion of a pill.

    Come on, common sense people. The females bytching about this still are just trying to justify their guilt for murdering their own children through abortion.

  • progressive woman

    @marques

    Why would any woman want a doctor to shove the equivalent of a Hoover vacuum cleaner nozzle up their va jay jay just so they can get their “HELEN REDDY” “I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR” on?
    —————————————–
    when I had the experience of working at a clinic…the doctor was black and I would always wonder what was going through his mind while doing this procedure and seeing the black babies being aborted…Of course I never asked!

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade

    Still nothing for the men huh? if you have sons will you teach them that it is ok to have unprotected s*e*x as long as the female is on the pill?

  • Mike

    p*i*s*s

  • Marquis de Sade

    “conceitedconceited
    2/28/10, 16:58:pm

    @Marquis de Sade

    Still nothing for the men huh? if you have sons will you teach them that it is ok to have unprotected s*e*x as long as the female is on the pill?”
    :lol: Darlin’ stop livin’ under the false a.s.s.u.m.p.t.i.o.n. that life is “BALANCE & FAIR” – It’s not!

    Would you advise you teach your daughter’s not to take responsibility for their own reproductive system just so they can hold their heads up high and scream to the Heavens: “HMPH, I SHOWED HIM, NOW WHERE’S MY EBT CARD?”

    I reiterate, girls have more to lose than boys.

  • Mike

    I am off this blog for the night so I can pay attention to this game.

    @Kigali

    I will check the link out you posted.

    Have a good evening Slide, Kigali, Glok, Marquis, and everyone else.

  • Marquis de Sade

    “Niasia
    2/28/10, 16:56:pm

    @ Marquis

    Women have more to lose with a child?? Thats the problem right there…both people are responsible for the child but the man has been taught and given the option to leave when he feels like it and offer no support. I bet if women handed the children over to men more often this problem wouldn’t be so exacerbated.”

    …And who taught men that? Seein’ as how over the past 40 years, most black men have been primarily raised by single black women, twould appear your ire should be directed at your fellow sistas’, darlin’.

  • Mike

    @Progressive

    I feel you! I want to see the Lakers and the Cavs…
    ———————————————–

    Yep. Its gonna be a good one. Lebron and Kobe are both great players and are really versatile on the court.

    You have a great evening too.

  • conceitedconceited

    @Marquis de Sade

    i never considered myself a feminist but reading your posts is definitely bringing it out of me.
    When i have children I will teach my daughters and SONS to strap up at ALL times. put it like this, if at least 1 person in the pair is responsible that could prevent another unwanted pregnancy

  • Peter D. Slaughter

    It’s genocide wake up.
    21st century genodice right in our faces.
    Wake up from the dumbing down of the racist
    media.

  • I Must Ask

    All you have to do is throw the word “racism” in a debat to get Black people’s attention. I am 100% pro-choice and I refuse to allow this nonsense to get me upset.

  • Niki

    Why does everyone always get lost in translation? How the hell it go from black women aborting to the infamous color complex? Grow the F*U*C*K up people. At the end of the day we all mixed, and when its all said and done, this article wasnt aimed specifically for light skinned women or dark skinned women, its aimed toward all ya black A*S*SES. Including black men, cause what type of man are you that would make A BLACK WOMAN want to abort as opposed to her having it? You think when they do these articles they only attack the women? WRONG, its aimed toward the stereotypical black male image as well. WAKE UP!!!!! Bickering and arguing over silly S*H*I*T like the color of your own brotherin’s skin is retarded. GROW THE F*U*C*K UP PEOPLE

  • conceitedconceited

    @progressive woman

    Waiting for marriage is the ideal, if you read my post i said i would teach BOTH to put safety first. i know guys in situations where it started as just s*e*x then she got pregnant. she wanted to keep it but he wanted her to have an abortion, she kept the child.
    now he is stuck with her for life and he can only see his child on HER terms which hurts him because he wants to be there. There are some women who want to trap men, there are some women who want to keep babies or get abortions to spite the man. Both parties need to take care

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    When it’s all said and done. A woman has the right to abort. Outlawing abortions is impractical and to a certain extent unenforceable. However, it is disingenuous to state that it is not a life. Life begins at inception. A woman has the right to choose if SHE WANTS TO MURDER HER UNBORN CHILD.

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    conception

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    Women that abort children need to be thrown in jail and given a life sentence. What they are doing is murder. Why should they be aloud to walk free? Because the law gives them an exception?

    F__k that shyt, lock their azzes up and throw away the key. Let them erode away in jail for all I care. Since they are so careless about the lives of the unborn why should their life be shown any mercy? Life begins at conception, women know this, yet they still choose to commit murder.

  • Somali Ninga

    CANADA WON GOLD IN MENS HOCKEY!!!! WOOT WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 :d :d :d :D

  • Somali Ninga

    * :D :D :D *

  • CeeCee

    its a woman’s choice on whether or not she wants to have an abortion.

    there are plenty of white women who have had abortions and even use abortion as a form of birth control. However, white women’s stats are not always reported because many go to private physicians.

    States are not required to report the number of abortions that women have to the CDC. Most of the information is gathered from local clinics that are primarily used by black women. Most white women will visit their private physician before visiting one of those local clinics.

    The stats make no sense at all when considering the fact that black women are suppose to have the most out of wedlock births, but yet have the most abortions. That is mathematically impossible there are not enough black women in the u.s. to have all of those kids but yet have had all of those abortions. HELLO!! At some point your become sterile from having so many abortions and can no longer have children. This is what has happened in Russia please pick up a book people and visit the CDC website and read everything on reproductive vital statistics.

  • conceitedconceited

    @I’m So Appalled V2.0

    what do you suggest we do with men who have children but do not participate in raising them?
    do you realize that single parenthood contributes to problems in the black community? do some research on single parents and the effect it has on society

  • Somali Ninga

    CANADA WON GOLD IN MENS HOCKEY!!!! WOOT WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3
    USA got silver HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    @CeeCee

    The stats make no sense at all when considering the fact that black women are suppose to have the most out of wedlock births, but yet have the most abortions. That is mathematically impossible there are not enough black women in the u.s. to have all of those kids but yet have had all of those abortions.
    ***************
    Black women have the highest precentage (70%)of out of wedlock births. For the dense that means that there are 7 black baby momma’s to every 1 black married woman.

  • conceitedconceited

    @I’m So Appalled V2.0

    ok sweety i will ignore your posts, suits me fine but next time don’t post your opinions if you are not willing to have them challenged. i respect that everyone has their own opinion, this is why i am pro-choice…. get it!

  • progressive woman

    @somali ninja

    Hello! I see your showing love for you country!
    Nothing wrong with that!

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    @conceitedconceited

    You can never challenge my opinion sweetie, my opinion condones life, your opinion justifies murder.

    I’m pro-life, DO YOU GET IT? ok stfu and go murder some more of your babies for all I care, but keep your murder like ways to yourself. You should really shut the f_k up. you have been on this thread for hours trying to sugar coat killing babies by the millions.

    Once again if you want to murder babies do so, but kill your own babies and leave logical women to decide for themselves. you have no business trying to get other women to hop on your baby killing bandwagon.

  • grant

    I love how people use anecdotal evidence “I’ve seen this, I’ve seen that” or my favorite “the numbers don’t add up”

    Geniuses, you can have multiple pregnancies especially if you have the first few then abort all conceptions after that you go through 30 yrs of egg bearing and you figure 10 eggs/yr that’s 300 plus chances for pregnancy, you telling me that is “mathematically” impossible…please and for everyone saying what you see at clinics, until you go to every clinic everyday throughout the country, then kindly stfu…

  • conceitedconceited

    @I’m So Appalled V2.0

    you can’t bully someone into agreeing with you. i am my own woman with my own thoughts and i choose not to tell others what to do. i haven’t needed an abortion but if i did i sure wouldn’t let the likes of you tell me what to do. and i think you need to rewind mr perfect, where did i say it is abortion is great? it is not for me to decide if it is right or wrong, it is up to the individual to decide that. i thought perfection didn’t exist but you are obviously faultless in your life so i will leave you in your perfect world. You are so great that you can look down on others, I choose not to. I am pro-choice

  • always knew

    @always knew

    Judging by all these articles about black females that have been coming up it seems like black females spend all day and night debasing themselves
    _____________________________

    oh, so their the ones,posting these articles and making these comments, when they do threads of wht wmn, Kigali you are still on there spewing your hatred of blk women. Your vitriol NEVER stops AND then you have the nerve, to PRETEND that you care and are concerned…We it’s just a cover to continue to spew hatred…I hope you choke to death on the foul stuff you espouse…

    2nd. You are a liar. Over and over, you have stated tht you are from North Carolina or South Carolina, the ever since the earthquake, NOW your haitian… you are so full of crap, your eyes have to be brown and full of it…

    May you and your fake husband, and all the creatures you create,be stricken to the depths of hell for eternal damnation…. (Don’t forget to take Marquis with you:) )

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    @conceitedconceited

    you are such an ignoramus. Because I speak for saving the lives of millions of babies from abortion I’m looking down on others? That makes no sense!!!! How Am I looking down on anyone?

    Abortion is wrong, life begins at conception, couples should use proper contraceptives before engaging in sex. That is all I am saying, once again how am I looking down on someone?

    You are a imbecile. Please stfu for crying out loud, if you want to murder your own children do so, I wouldn’t want a idiot like you reproducing anyway!!! But leave logical women to decide for themselves.

  • 666

    @SOMALI

    WUDDUP TO MY OTHER DOO DOO BROWN AFRO $HITHOLE.

    U IGNORANT LITTLE C U N T

  • Godpop

    Oooh, yeah, that’s right, right there, ooooh, ohhhhh yeah, weeeee, ooooooooh, I’m coming, baby. . .

  • tooke

    LIES. I want to see some real evidence & statistics- not stuff made up by pro life activists. Anyway, it’s the woman’s choice whether to get an abortion, regardless or race. Instead of worrying about this we need to tackle the issue of the watering down of the black race… these days every “black” baby born is half something or the other!

  • Godpop

    Sydney

    ‘Something in the milk isn’t clean. . .’

    I drank your milk and it did my body good. So nutritious. . .

  • hotghj

    Who cares!!! My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He- is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at- A g e m i n g le @ c.o..m a nice and free place for Younger- Women and Older Men, or Older Women and Younger Men, to- interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or- tell your friends.

  • Godpop

    Sydney

    ‘LOL, I thought the same thing. How does that old saying go?’

    Black women need to listen to Kigali. She right and her approach is the only way to straigten yall up cause yall know yall love them thugs.

  • always knew

    She right and her approach is the only way to straigten yall up cause yall know yall love them thugs.
    ____________________________________

    No, she might have a point or be correct on some issues,but that gives her/him/it no right to be self-righteous, condescending,patronizing (comments about weave, etc, that have NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.)

    You attract more bees with honey than aggravation. Anyone with half a brain knows,this..And not only that, it’s just good to have a conversation, when folks can intellectually present their argument and be heard without all the negativity / hatred into the mix. Weak-minded folks might just believe some of the outlandish claims that she makes. And anyone listening to the daily diatribe/ rants would tend to think, that she actually hates blk wmn, otherwise, why spend every second of every day, pointing at your neighbor, when good and well, we should be helping . You don;t do that through demoralization. Even in reverse psychology, techiques are used, not outright HATE.
    So excuse me, if I beg to differ. And Yes, I acknowledge that Syd is one of the more intellectual, well-rounded sisters..
    :) (good to draw attention to the issue(s), persecuting blk wmn, is NOT th answer…)

  • Somali Ninga

    @ 666
    u got problems man. STFU

  • always knew

    techniques- excuse typo

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    @always knew
    @Sydney (I am really shocked at you)

    You guys can spend your time guessing about who and what I am but it doesnt change the facts of what I am saying. You can doubt the statistics all you want. I didnt do the research they did. Instead of worrying about me, why not get mad at the Center of Disease Control? This is where the bulk of the information is coming from. Hating me isnt going to help black women.

    As far as old sayings go Sydney, “Dont shoot the Messenger.” The message will not change.

  • http://bossip.com too cute

    they need to worry about AIDS,stop having sex,then you want get pregnant,abortion is not birth control,I’m against abortion,just sad that that number is so high

  • kigali- Life for Dummies

    peter illyich,

    You know a woman can be pregnant more than once right? Just like a woman can miscarriage but can go on to have another kid. So it does add up. Black women arent using protection, they are having multiple pregnancies- having some and aborting others. Simple really.

  • L’union fait la force

    Abortion is wrong.

  • TheBoss1

    THIS IS A WASTED ARGUMENT (SINGLE BLACK MOTHERS) . BLACK WOMEN NEVER FIND FAULT IN ANYTHING THEY DO. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD A BLACK WOMAN SAY ” IM SORRY”, OR “I WAS WRONG, YOU WERE RIGHT” THEY CAN’T BE CORRECTED OR CRITICIZED. ALL WE EVER HEAR IS IT’S THE MANS FAULF FOR NOT WEARING A CONDOM, AS IF BLACK MEN ARE WALKING AROUND RAPING WOMEN ALL OVER THE PLACE. WOMEN WANT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES LIKE MEN, WITH NONE OF THE RESPONSIBLITIES OF MEN…..THE SAGA CONTINUES!

  • TheOriginalBlkBarbie (Bleeding Red&White Tonight!!!)

    @ hotghj

    Why do you have that adorable baby up on here helping you spam????

    @ Somali Ninga

    That’s what I like to hear…as long as it’s Stella Artois! :D I knew we’d slaughter the Americans…there was never any doubt in my mind. Can’t wait until the next Olympics so we can do it again!!!!!!

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    @TheBoss1

    You are right, most black women never want to admit when they are at fault. They want to murder thousands of babies and they expect black men to agree with them. Most black women need to move out of the “strong black women” bullshyt idology and get a clue. Black women always want to be the matriarch and they expect their opinion to be law. F_k out of here

    The murder of innocent babies will never be justified. I don’t give a flying shyt what anyone tells me. You lay on your back and spread eagle and get pregnant then you better raise that child and stfu, why should a baby be destroyed because you were careless? w/e

  • Glok… Amerikkkaz Blk Hitler ! !

    PEACE OUT MIKE …!
    WHATZ GOOD REALEST ,…THATZ WHATZ POPPING CUZIN!

  • http://bossip Nadia

    You can never blame a mother for having an abortion. Either the father helped pay for it, or he kicked rocks. Yall sound stupid blaming the women. Where were the men?!!

  • http://bossip Nadia

    I like to add. My relation is the total oposite. I can admitt to fault but my man can’t!

  • I’m So Appalled V2.0

    Of my years on this earth I’ve never once heard a black woman admit she was wrong, that is why I’m actually laughing the THEBOSS1 post because he is so f_king right. The black woman always wants to be the matriarch, the black woman always wants to walk around like they have the d_ck and like they are in charge.

    I respect black women though because without them our community will fall apart, however at the same time learn to admit when you are wrong.

  • CeeCee

    @ Keep it real.
    My point is that there are not enough black women in the united states to have 13 million abortions (these are some the numbers being thrown out on that toomanyaborted.com website). This is what I was talking about when I said it is not mathematically possible.

    While there are only 37 to 43 million blacks in the United states out of 303 million people. Out of the 37 to 43 million blacks over 50% are women. So there about 18.5 to 21.5 million black women in the u.s. Out of all of these black women according to toomanyaborted.com 13 million have had an abortion. This is impossible seeing that a woman can become sterile after have too many abortions and that not all black women in the united states have been pregnant, not to mention the number of black women who suffer from endometriosis or other reproductive cancers. This stats also do not indicate the number of black women that have to have induced labor due to an ectopic pregnancy or the separation of the placenta due to poor prenatal treatment.

    Anywho more black children die in the womb due to poor prenatal care than anything else.

  • CeeCee

    lol lmao @ Cutey

  • Robert Rainer, MD

    All men and all women are free to choose. In fact, it is this freedom that by and large, makes America great. Generations before us have protested and died for the rights that each of us enjoy today. And yes… women are free to choose between going to term with a pregnancy, terminating, or using any of the available forms of contraception. One third of all women have terminated a pregnancy. These women were not mandated by government nor did they receive non-consensual procedures. The argument that Black women lack the intellectual capacity to make an informed decision is down right insulting. Republicans often feel that ‘Black rage’, if harnessed properly, can be used to perpetuate their agenda. Well… news flash to right wing Republicans: We are aware of your pervasive mission: Kill, (K)Conquer, (K)Control . But guess what members of the GOP, Black people ain’t having it and neither are the Killer Whales.

  • Maritza

    HOW THE HECK DO WE HAVE MORE ABORTIONS IF WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE ONES WITH THE MOST KIDS?

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  • afrodite

    i heard about a white woman who got an abortion every year for something like 15 years and wrote a book about it. she said getting abortions was a way of harming herself like when people cut themselves. 15 black girls get 1 abortion each and it’s genocide, but this woman got 15 abortions in 15 years.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    The Hard Truth is this….

    There are many women who should not be having children.

    I am pro-choice. God knows there are plenty of thugs and criminals out here already and the majority are produced by women unfit to be parents. Their inability to parent coupled with guilt of abortion is partially responsible for how terrible things are in some of our poorest neighborhoods.

    If some of these thugs had been aborted by their unfit parents, then they would have never lived to kill other people who are trying to make themselves and the world better.

    i.e. the little middle school boy who brought a gun to school and blew another young boy’s brains out. ( thats the price of pro-life )

    Your stand for pro-life can be a stand for the death of some one else.

  • Sarah

    @Dr Hayden Drake is that you? Plz change your avatar its making me sick.

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  • omni101

    It is amazing to me to hear the comments from black women on this site, how did our women become so coild to life? and feel so at ease about playing God and determinning who lives and who dies, what hypocrites, it is amazing all the people on here defending the right to kill an innocent baby inside of them and yet , get mad at men for treating them bad? why do women throw that mess” right to choose”? as if it just choosing between jimmy choo shoes or prada ones? i mean the disregard for an innocent life and yet demand that someone respect “their” lives?? pleas explain how you are going to stand befor the almighty and give him you grand decision to take his place and determine who lives and who dies, and yet each and every person reading this comment, at least their “mothers” respected your lives and didn’t “play God” and decide to kill you and mask it off as a pair of jimmy choo shoes or prade!!

    PRO CHOICE= choosing whats right in the sight of God and not your own selfish pride!!!!!

  • helena

    Pro-Choice….
    Don’t have kids that you can’t take care of financially,mentally,or emotionally. If you’re not married or at least have a supportive “baby daddy”,then don’t have kids,and I mean he’s more that financially supportive.
    Too many babies having babies. Too many immature women and men bringing innocent lives into this cruel world. This is one of the root causes of the issues in the black community. Too many unwanted black babies and children.
    Look at the high number of black kids in foster care and adoption agencies around the world. Many of them are born without a chance. This isn’t the wild! Children need two stable parents to take care of them and black folks need to stop thinking that when their kids turn 18, they don’t have to parent anymore….

  • stopit

    Theres no conspiracy, just a bunch of people trying to numb themselves and be validated by sex, being very irresponsible.

    If these babies were born, they would suffer one way or another.

    With all the advances in fertility treatments, and surrogacy, there are fewer and fewer people looking to adopt. Adoption is exspensive and difficult.

    Black babies are the least wanted in the system because most people who have the means to adopt are white and they want children that look like them.

    If the women who aborted these babies had them, They would probably keep them and not be able to care for them and or abuse the children, damaging them and causing them to fall into the bottomless pit of foster care.

  • peter illyich

    @kigali

    You are 100% right on that issue and pointed out my inability to grasp the concept.

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  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    NO ONE IS SAYING KILL BLACK BABIES!

    WE ARE SAYING, DON’T HAVE CHILDREN THAT YOU CAN NOT TAKE CARE OF.

    Poor or lack of parenting creates criminals, that become society’s problem and does way more harm that it does good, EVER!

    @Sarah,

    Why does a picture of my child make you sick?

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    @helena

    Pro-Choice….
    Don’t have kids that you can’t take care of financially,mentally,or emotionally. If you’re not married or at least have a supportive “baby daddy”,then don’t have kids,and I mean he’s more that financially supportive.
    Too many babies having babies. Too many immature women and men bringing innocent lives into this cruel world. This is one of the root causes of the issues in the black community. Too many unwanted black babies and children.
    Look at the high number of black kids in foster care and adoption agencies around the world. Many of them are born without a chance. This isn’t the wild! Children need two stable parents to take care of them and black folks need to stop thinking that when their kids turn 18, they don’t have to parent anymore….

    ===============================================
    Absolutely correct!

  • Jewel

    I agree with EVERYONE who said no ONE has the right to decide what someone can and cannot do regarding something that affects their lives directly i.e. abortion.

    If u feel it’s wrong personally, then GREAT! Don’t have one, but just bc u feel that way doesn’t mean everyone does or ought to. I get the feeling that some ppl in here get their high thinking that “supporting life” makes them so much more righteous than the person that “murders an unborn child”. And to be honest, it SOUNDS noble n all, but u fail to understand, u may have “saved a life”, but r u gonna support that life? Are u gonna provide for it mentally, emotionally, spiritually, financially? U can go around saving all the lives you want, but then what??? There is nothing that breaks my heart more than to see an unwanted and unloved child be mistreated.

    Everyone throwing God into the equation need to remember they have their own stuff to answer for to Him so leave others be to answer to Him also. No one MUST answer to another human being that does not play a significant role in their lives. A matter such as abortion is a PRIVATE one that shld be left to the mother and family to decide.

    Everyone thinks they have the answer. There may come a day where u can force a woman to keep a child but there will never come a day when u can force a woman to love that child and properly take care of it.

    And please ppl, never feel u r above anyone or better bc u don’t make certain choices that someone else may, bc there is always someone else who won’t or doesn’t make certain choices u make. We all serve as an example to someone else as “what I wouldn’t do”. Don’t ever mistake it.

  • Jewel

    Just for the record, I don’t agree with using abortion as a birth control method…but guess what if someone chooses to, there is nothing I can do I about. I’m not who the must answer to.

  • chaka1

    This report is lie generated by the Republican party. The numbers are greatly exaggerated.

  • fierce chili

    Responsible Dan 2/28/10 13:06pm

    I could not have said it better.

    Abortion is only a symptom!

  • juliemango

    I am surprised at that stat. on babortion. I am more interested in the actual reasons behind this stat. rather than conspirctheries.

  • http://bossip Keep it Real

    Every ones at fault. Abortion causes more death in the black community (1,452 PER DAY) than gang violence, hiv/aids, heart disease, and cancer combined. While the so called black leaders (civil rights activist, ministers and politicians) who receive large donations from, Planned Parenthood and multiple liberal/women’s rights organizations, remain silent. Silence is acceptance. Margaret Sanger founded Planned parenthood and was a proponent of eugenics, advocating selective breeding, sterilization and euthanasia. Ms. Sanger wrote about what is known as the NEGRO PROJECT and that they should recruit “charismatic black ministers” to encourage black women to practice birth control. Question, why have you never heard of a march or protest by any of the major so-called black leaders against abortion? The choice is yours. Please read about Margaret Sanger and the Negro Project.

  • fierce chili

    @ Keep It Real – I must admit – I must have been under a rock somewhere but this is the first time I have heard of Margaret Sanger and the Negro Project but best know i am going to get informed asap. thank you for the knowledge share.

  • kat

    The report is TRUE. You can access these stats at the local,state,and national level. Yes, Black women have more abortions however most of these women already have a child so the explanation lies in the BLACK FAMILY. Black men must want to lead and be in our families instead being a PT weekend DAD or even better an absent one. Black women have finally woke up that we do not need children to make us complete.

  • Butterflyj30

    @ Keep it real I totally agree pro-life is the way to go!!

  • http://www.twitter.com/ms_holliday ms_holliday

    Im very pro choice but I do feel bad for all the little ones who never get a chance. I wish birth control was a law that way less women would get preg and that would automaticlly cut down the rate and as for @Sarah i heard a few ppl blasting you and now i see why u are really messed up in the head and if ur black ur even more F’ed up then I thought SMH @ you YUCK !!!!

  • Prettychicke

    Just wondering…..Anyone pro-responsibiliby?

  • duece duece

    This story was generated by Republicans to weaken African American for the democratic party.

  • duece duece

    This story was generated by republicans to weaken African American support for the democratic party.

  • TRUTH

    RE: duece duece, you are truly an IDIOT!!!

  • Smart Black Queen

    @Marquis de Sade,

    I agree with almost all the comments you make. I am appalled at the number of black women who don’t want to take responsibility for their bodies. You CANNOT get pregnant if you use contraceptives, Ladies. This is not some conspiracy here. We black women need to be more responsible. Stop playing the victim! Stop sleeping with irresponsible men because you think you need a rough neck!!! Stop having a child for every man you date!!!. A man can walk away once he knocks you up (I don’t really care to debate whether he should or shouldnt). We can do better and should do better.
    @Dr. Hayden Drake,

    You are 100% correct. We all suffer the consequences of irresponsible people having children with no home training or manners.

  • juss

    i think its the woman’s choice. even if i do believe abortions are wrong, cant nobody tell a woman what she can or cant do with her body. people need to stop casting judgment on others, only GOD can judge people!

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  • Roz

    #1 People please stop saying “White women get just as many abortions as black women” it sounds a tad immature and we shouldn’t point out faults in other racial/ethnic groups just to justify our own shortcomings. The last time I checked black people account for only a small percentage of America’s population so you do the math.

    #2 I have read up on Planned Parenthood and Margaret Sanger and even though I was quite disturbed by what I found out, I think that it is up to those who are sexually active to take the necessary precautions to prevent unplanned pregnancy. Knowledge starts in the home.

    #3 I am not an extremely religious person but I do believe in God and abortion would not be an option for me BUT I do believe that abortion is a personal decision that should be made by the woman. It is not my place to judge anyone and I believe that whatever you do in your life is between you and God in the end. Granted I do not think the abortion should be advertised/used as a form of birth control.

  • guerillabvnbnlegal

    If a ho wants to kill her zygote, why yall mad? That’s less ho genes in the pool

  • guerillabvnbnlegal

    For the record I am not for abortion

  • Str8 Truth

    Of my friends, past and present, I know one black who has had abortions and most of my white friends have either had several abortions or given children up for adoption.

    Whites tend to have better providers and know how to keep their procedures on the low. They use private providers which right there means their records are sealed and will not be reported.

    As for abortions being on the rise in black communities, that is because the pregnancy rates amongst those who are not equipped to rear a child is staggering. The poor and young see abortion as a quick fix. Black men, step up to the plate more and stop spreading your DNA around like party favors. Black women, stop sleeping with lowlifes who don’t handle their business and get on some birth control.

    I’m a black woman and I refuse to succumb to the glorified baby mama push. Not happening. Wifey me and then we might talk about procreating. Till then, you can go buy some dolls.

  • cutey

    @Smart Black Queen

    You are obviously not that smart because you have just agreed with two apposing sides of the debate.

  • cutey

    *opposing

  • Aunt Esther

    *on to the next one*

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