This brother is apparently allergic to condoms, common sense, and financial stability, because he doesn’t have any of the three. SMH.

No comment.

SMH

Cuz what I would say would sound racist to black people.

And I’m black.

I’ll keep it to myself.

That’s that ridiculous girl from the E! show Candy Girls….I don’t know why a woman would date a man with 7 children by 6 different mothers……if she didn’t initially know she should have ran away fast once she found out. I don’t even want to comment on him….he is totally irresponsible.

*stank stare*

This ish right here…

disgusting…

JUST A DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BLACK PEOPLE LETS DO BETTER THAN THIS!!

why not just give the bastid condoms, or better yet, a gift sertificate for a vasectomy?

ugh!

typo – *certificate

Geeez that guy betta play harder in his final contracted year, thats some leniency in this NHL investment!!!

Ultimately a woman knows if she can get pregnant, yeah ol’e dude should strap up, however, today there are no mistakes, condoms are giving out like tic tacs. Many of these women are looking for their instant 401K plan for the next 18 years. Put the blame on the female’s just as much, if not more, than the guy!

I want to know who had two kids with him?
If he wasn’t paying for the first, why would you have a second?

i like that the jets are making this fool step up. if any one of those rats takes him to court and he can’t come up with the money, he goes to jail and the team is out of a player.

all teams should do this.

2006…$12million deal and in 2010…damn near broke?!? wtf, he needs to get fixed and have some serious financial advisement. it’s so sad to hear about these young black athletes getting these tens or hundreds of millions of dollars and then blowing it away. And I bet not one dime of those millions went to a single charity, church, school or mentor program…FAIL

@Keep it Real:

That is so true. Sad, but true.

This is freaking ridiculous. @Gimmieabreak, I agree with you 100 percent. What’s up with men not wrappin it up? Is gettin a condom out, rolling it on, really that difficult? Is it laziness or just pure stupidity? I would really love to know.

RAW DOG!!!!!…BEWARE!

The $12 million contract is before taxes. If he is broke, the child support payments are harder than a mortgage or a car note.

@And the Truth Is….

“And to think, the wife is lying next to that been around the world *****ing every girl dcik. UGH…. $ does NOT mean that much to me.. GTFOH….”

This is EXACTLY the way I feel about Tiger… the only difference is, no children were spawned from his “been around the world *****ing every girl dcik”… still just as gross, IMO…

i wonder how many strippers he’ll knock up when he settles here on the east coast

If my tax dollars weren’t acting as a “collection agent for prostitutes” would we really be discussing this?

He probably broke from spending money stupidly like when he bought Terricka a 20 carat diamond necklace, on the Candy Girl show. Thats a lot of money and you have 7 kids to take care of, foolish. And she probably thought she had a catch when she hooked up with him bc he has money. How you start off with a 12 million contract,and go on your way to almost nothing, ppl need to learn how to flip their money into bigger profit.(investing, business, etc.)

wow..this story is got me in shock..i love terricka&antonio’s relationship..why cant we celebrate black love&be glad that at least he is stepping up to his mistakes..which we ll make! noone is perfect& if you didn’t know terricka has 2 degrees(grad college at the age of 21)&she is working on her lsat to get into law school! she isnt a golddigger by far&a sincere person

Who cares!!! My boyfriend thinks the same with me. He- is eight years older than me, lol. We met online at- A_ge_m_in_g_le @ c/o/m a nice and free place for Younger- Women and Older Men, or Older Women and Younger Men, to- interact with each other. Maybe you wanna check out or- tell your friends.

@ Man, I just don’t care

Those kids are his and he has made millions of dollars. He should support them. I shouldn’t have to support them through welfare. I am glad the system collects from deadbeats like this.

This is truly a stupid m*o*t*h*e*r*f*u*c*k*e*r*.

Disgusting – I wonder if he spends actual time with ANY of the Children. Dang – women – have some self-respect for yourself – even if no one else will respect you. Why even lower yourself to having a fatherless child.

LOL, IDIOT. If he would have just given them skanks 2-3 thousand a month, he would not be going threw this.

But since he likes hoochie Mama Hoodrats obviously. Look who he married (the HEAD GROUPIE OF THE WHOLE UNITED STATES, since SUPERHEAD) What do you expect from a man who thinks so idiotically.

@WHITE DEVIL
“Those kids are his and he has made millions of dollars. He should support them. I shouldn’t have to support them through welfare. I am glad the system collects from deadbeats like this.”
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Like any collection agency, the American collection agency for “Dead Beat Parents” is a losing business model.

Your tax dollars are paying MORE money feeding, clothing and sheltering GROWN ADULTS in prison then what you would for a infant.
**note, that’s a fact, you can look it under the GAO’s research**

Any way you look at it, you are subsidizing a form of prostitution.

“Many of these women are looking for their instant 401K plan for the next 18 years. Put the blame on the female’s just as much, if not more, than the guy!”

If men are aware of this, why aren’t some of them subsequently protecting themselves better? Wealthy athletes being pursued by opportunistic women is nothing new. The men are absolutely to blame as well for their own irresponsibility and stupidity.

Remember that scene in “Love and Basketball” when the mother warned her son (Omar Epps) about groupies?

@Candice

wow..this story is got me in shock..i love terricka&antonio’s relationship..why cant we celebrate black love&be glad that at least he is stepping up to his mistakes..which we ll make! noone is perfect& if you didn’t know terricka has 2 degrees(grad college at the age of 21)&she is working on her lsat to get into law school! she isnt a golddigger by far&a sincere person
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Black love in which the man has 7 kids with 6 different women is nothing to celebrate–sorry.

Seven illegitimate children are not indicators of love–they are a basketball team with two subs. SMH.

@ Man, I just don’t care

I am not happy about paying for housing prisoners either. But at least they are being kept of the street where they would be doing crimes. These fools out knocking up women and then abandoning them are feeding the prison population as well. We will be paying for them for years to come.

@Gimmeabreak

“Black love in which the man has 7 kids with 6 different women is nothing to celebrate–sorry.”

No, it’s not, and I’m for one am sick and tired of this pathological dysfunction being p-a-s-s-e-d off as normal and acceptable. It’s not.

Mouth is agape right now…that is just ridiculous.

@Gimmeabreak -

“Seven illegitimate children are not indicators of love–they are a basketball team with two subs. SMH.”

OKAAAAAAAY! NOT cute, any way you cut it. Now have 7 with your WIFE, and be able to financially care for them, and then we can celebrate some “black love”… o

@ MIJDC

I don’t care too much about the women or him. They are adults who made their decisions. The children are the ones I am worried about.

*I, for one*

This wouldn’t be an issue if havin’ babies outta’ wedlock, and/or if both parties made less than 50K a year, combined was outlawed to the tune of no welfare subsidies for irresponsible behavior.

THIS IS DISGUSTING…..SIX DIFFERENT WOMEN…THOSE POOR KIDS…AND AFTER THE SECOND BABY MOMS, THEY ARE ALL HOES..THE FIRST TWO ARE QUESTIONABLE BECAUSE 1. THEY WERE THERE FIRST AND 2. NOT CERTAIN IF THEY WERE AWARE HE WOULD HAVE SO MANY MORE KIDS….THATS OUR MONEY FUNDING THIS NONSENSE

@WHITE DEVIL- I agree and it is about the children. I know that the law looks at BOTH finances of BOTH parents and being a custodial parent myself I understand how the process of support works. I know every case is different, but BOTH should be able to support the child or children. The children are not to blame they are innocent.

WE ARE IN A RECESSION, PEOPLE HAVE NO JOBS AND CAN’T FEED THEIR KIDS..BUT THIS A** HOLE CAN GET A CHECK TO FUND THESE MONEY HUNGRY HOES….I’M SOOO SICK RIGHT NOW

If he has 7 children with 6 baby mamas, I doubt he was in a serious relationship with either one of those females. And I bet his “doggish” ways were very obvious but women “knowingly” got preggos to get a check. For that reason, I think jumpoffs should get $20k/year and thats it. No one should reap benefits of bad decisions.

@Sydney
If men are aware of this, why aren’t some of them subsequently protecting themselves better? Wealthy athletes being pursued by opportunistic women is nothing new. The men are absolutely to blame as well for their own irresponsibility and stupidity.

Because many women will tell a man she doesn’t like the feel of a condom and will tell him that she is on birth control. Every year the NBA has a session with their rookies on the trials and tribulations of groupies and other temptation. The session involves informing the players of certain women who will keep a used condom and take the semen and freeze it and then offer to sell it to other women who subsequently get involved with a particular player and who can self-inseminate themselves. Do some research please. Wilt Chamberlain mentioned this in his book as did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Please don’t try and absolve the actions of some scandalous women who have an agenda. Most guys intent is not get a woman pregnant, however certain women see a “baller” and think they are going to be the next Kim Porter. That said, the guy should always be skeptical and strap-up! Quite frankly many should pattern their life after Derek Jeter! Get with someone who has their own money, career and has something to lose!

@Manster

“The session involves informing the players of certain women who will keep a used condom and take the semen and freeze it and then offer to sell it to other women who subsequently get involved with a particular player and who can self-inseminate themselves. Do some research please.”

It seems like someone(s) has already conducted research and knowledge of these practices is out there. It stands to reason that this should affect some of the decisions and actions athletes take.

“Please don’t try and absolve the actions of some scandalous women who have an agenda.”

I’m not trying to absolve any “scandalous women” of their agenda — I think it’s pretty widely spread knowledge that there are women who intentionally pursue certain men for financial gain. I’m trying to understand why some men — who are just as adult as women — refuse to take any accountability for their own actions. If a man has seven children by six women, HE is the common denominator in the debacle.

“Most guys intent is not get a woman pregnant, however certain women see a “baller” and think they are going to be the next Kim Porter. That said, the guy should always be skeptical and strap-up!”

Exactly! Agreed.

By contrast, if a woman gives birth to seven children fathered by six men, would she not bear the bulk of responsibility for her actions? Accountability flows both ways.

This “knucklehead” really need a foot to azz moment!! What is wrong with him, gheez…sad indeed.

@SYDNEY- Exactly. I made a comment earlier that BOTH parent’s should financially help take care of the children, even for couples who get divorced (the same process is applied), looking at both incomes and calculating who should pay what and how much. I know for me when going through the court proceedings (Family Court)I had already had a custodial and 529 account for my daughter and the same with her father, but he has additional accounts for her too.

7.35 million of his 2006 contract was given to him upfront as a bonus which broke down his average salary to 1,287,000 a year. How he mismanaged 7,350,000 dollars is ridiculous! Any half decent brokerage firm could have set him up for life with that kind of money,but cars,clothes and jewelry galore not to mention trying to screw anything that can stand up,will deplete even the deepest of pockets! When are these idiots ever going to learn? This is how WHITE PLAYERS END UP IN WITH FRONT OFFICE JOBS AND COACHING POSITIONS! Young black players are so into focused on getting payed and living the lifestyle,while White players are learning the GAME on the field as well as off. Black players will try to hang on and get as much cash as they can,while white players make the transition to coaching and front office positions. You never see Whit players on CRIBS OR TRYING TO START UP RECORD LABELS AND CLOTHING LINES! Yet time after time,we keep reading the same old story about Young Black Athletes and their numerous children. The narrative of this needs to change and it needs to change quickly,because we don’t have a good enough hand to keep pulling the Race card out of the deck people! We are our own worst enemy!

*By contrast, if a woman gives birth to seven children fathered by six men, would she not bear the bulk of responsibility for her actions? Accountability flows both ways.*

(Sigh!) Men don’t get pregnant, darlin’. Stop pretendin’ that women don’t have control over their reproductive system. There’s a thin line between FEMINISM and ENABLING.

@Ms. EJ

“@SYDNEY- Exactly. I made a comment earlier that BOTH parent’s should financially help take care of the children”

Yes, I agree. The responsibility is twofold.

@Marquis

“Stop pretendin’ that women don’t have control over their reproductive system. There’s a thin line between FEMINISM and ENABLING.”

Men also have control and resources at their disposal as well (in this case, this athlete may have considered getting a vasectomy before creating a tribe of out-of-wedlock children).

Besides, I thought control and leadership was part of manhood — You want to be considered a man, be responsible for your actions. Stop p-a-s-s-i-n-g the buck.

Time for me to head back, everyone have a great day!

Sydney

Sorry, darlin’, but at his age, no doctor would give him a vasectomy, just like they won’t give young women tubal ligations.

That ignorant negroe needs a vasectomy asap cause he’s still young and still going to fall victim to the groupie rawdog scene. Man, he’s on the way to being dead broke before 40. When are these cats gonna learn don’t put seeds in chicks you have no future with (you’re not married to). It never works out for the BM or BD.

@Marquis

Thank you, I will certainly research that matter further using a credible source of medical information.

My point about accountability still stands. My father used to tell me that a person couldn’t expect to perform the same action over and over again and expect different results. If a man has impregnated several women and has a-m-a-s-s-e-d child support payments beyond his budget, thus endangering his financial stability, the onus is on him to make a change to ameliorate his situation. The same applies to a woman who repeatedly has children out-of-wedlock whom she cannot afford or give the life that they deserve. At some point, we all have to shoulder responsibility for the mistakes we make and stop taking the easy route and a-s-s-i-g-n-i-n-g blame to other parties. It’s part of being an adult.

@Marquis

Sorry, darlin’, but at his age, no doctor would give him a vasectomy, just like they won’t give young women tubal ligations.
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My regrets, darling, but you are incorrect here. Any doctor would gladly give a man with 7 children a vasectomy. It is an easily reversible procedure, unlike a tubal ligation.

People should have to live with their decisions with out the government being there to subsidize their mistakes.

(IE: Government enforced child support)

Poor Antanio.

Does he not have any female relatives that could have educated him about what would happen once he became an NFL player?

@ Marquis

I do believe that if a woman has 4 kids by 30 (at least in NYS because I know a few) they are eligible for tubal ligation and possibly hysterectomy

@ MIJDC

Someone has to pay for his children. The options are to let them suffer, or force taxpayers to pay for them or force him to pay for them. Of the three choices, I think forcing him to pay for his own children is the best option. It would be nice if the goverment did not have to force fathers to support their own children, but unfortunately that is not the society we live in.

I find it baffling that someone is against forcing fathers to support their own children.

And people wonder why black athletes personal lives are fodder for jokes and stereotyping.

I had a guy that worked for me who is up to about six kids by different women. Child services is limited in how much they can take out of each paycheck. I think they can only take about half. This dumb MFer was at the limit and I have heard that he has had more kids since I fired him. And this dude is white and definitely not rich. He should be forced to be sterilized.

@WHITE DEVIL
“Someone has to pay for his children. The options are to let them suffer, or force taxpayers to pay for them or force him to pay for them. Of the three choices, I think forcing him to pay for his own children is the best option. It would be nice if the goverment did not have to force fathers to support their own children, but unfortunately that is not the society we live in.

I find it baffling that someone is against forcing fathers to support their own children.”
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Ok, since your “main concern” are the “children,” why do you have a problem with supporting them via welfare/government subsidies?

Since forcing parents to take care of children they don’t want to take care of is proven to be more costly?

**NOTE: I never specified “fathers” because mothers also don’t financially support their children…SMH**

Trying to force people to pay for unwanted children is redundant.

Then again, the government did give “bail outs” to financial institutions that made poor decisions so they might as well act as a collection agent for prostitutes. SMH.

@ MIJDC

It is almost always fathers who have to be forced to take care of their children. Mothers usually do it without pressure. I don’t see how it can cost more to force fathers to pay. When someone is hired, they are tracked by social security number and the amount is automatically withdrawn. It can’t be that expensive. Even if it does cost more, there is a certain value in trying to modify irresponsible behaavior by ensuring that there is a cost for it.

If parents are unable to pay, then the state has to support the children. I don’t like it, but I can see that it is probably better than letting the children starve.

@WHITE DEVIL
“It is almost always fathers who have to be forced to take care of their children. Mothers usually do it without pressure. I don’t see how it can cost more to force fathers to pay. When someone is hired, they are tracked by social security number and the amount is automatically withdrawn. It can’t be that expensive. Even if it does cost more, there is a certain value in trying to modify irresponsible behaavior by ensuring that there is a cost for it.

If parents are unable to pay, then the state has to support the children. I don’t like it, but I can see that it is probably better than letting the children starve.”
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LOL at you not seeing how it could possible cost more. ha ha ha.

You mean, the Government uses the SAME practices to track people and hold them accountable for payment that collection agencies use? Those methods? LOL. Hmm….I wonder how much it costs to track that, enforce it, the people you have to hire, etc.

The funny part is that if a “father” absolutely refuses to pay and is imprisoned. The state will then have to care for the child anyway! LOL AND the cost to imprison him is WAY more than just taking care of the child from the start!

Some politician dreamed this chit up to get votes under the guise of “holding people accountable” and people fell for it without thinking. The sad part is that they still do. SMH.
The entire

IS THE NFL ALSO PAYING FOR HIS STD TESTS???????

@ MIJDC

If he is in prison then at least he can’t father any more children. If he is out fathering children he can’t take care of then he is doing as much damage to society as a thief or drug dealer.

@WHITE DEVIL
“If he is in prison then at least he can’t father any more children. If he is out fathering children he can’t take care of then he is doing as much damage to society as a thief or drug dealer.”
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Why not just imprison every man and only allow a few to selectively breed once it is determined by the government whether they can “support” the offspring?

I think that satisifies all of your concerns.

@ MIJDC

I am getting the feeling this is personal for you.

@WHITE DEVIL
“I am getting the feeling this is personal for you.”
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I was thinking the same thing for you. EVERY PARENT DOESN’T WANT OR LOVE THEIR CHILD…..GET OVER IT!

But on another note, I just find it ridiculous that people can’t comprehend how truly idiotic this entire “system” is.

SMH.

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Love the smile on baby mama’s face, saying to herself, dis here is yor baby daddy, he a football star, he gon make you look pretty err day. and you got bout six or seven lil bros and sisters you have not even met yet. We gon have da biggest Christmas you ever done seenteded. You gon be on TV just like your daddy. SMDH

@ MIJDC Why not just imprison every man and only allow a few to selectively breed once it is determined by the government whether they can “support” the offspring?
Please tell me that you really dont feel this way? Tell all of the woman to quit having babies for paychecks that only last for 18 years. This is not a wise carreer choice because it has no pension plan or S.S. Plan. The money isn’t even guaranteed.

HEY CROMARTIE, GET YOUR SELF TAPPED OFF. THERE IS A LEGIT SURGICAL OPTION. AND YOU CAN HAVE BABIES LATER WHEN YOU FIND THE RIGHT ONE!!!

WHITE DEVIL, that’s not true. I personally know someone whose has A relative whose been incarcerated for the past 28 years, and has two daughters, both conceived via conjugal visits with his G.F.. The person I know was writing a letter to the parole board on his behalf, to consider an early release for his part in an armed robbery, which resulted in a murder.

“You broads cant argue with a DNA test.”

You “broads?”

@Caramel

“I truly think there are men out here who want to impregnate as many women as possible (i.e. Lil’ Wayne), without any regard for the fact that they cannot support or take care of all these children.”

I think you’re right, and I think that distorted sense of parenthood is apparent in the mentalities of some men AND women.

On a side note, when did some of us start referring to children as “seeds?” I’ve wondered about that for a while — I had never heard that before reading the term on this site.

Also, to the men who subscribe to the thinking that “men can’t get pregnant,” what exactly are men responsible for? Marquis, didn’t you respond to me that men are solely responsible for child support, and that’s it? Please correct me if I’m wrong.

@Sydney

I know alot of ‘men’ who refer to their children as ‘seeds’…it sounds kind of disgusting IMHO….

@ Marquis

I did not know that they really had conjugal visits. That should be eliminated.

@Caramel

“I know alot of ‘men’ who refer to their children as ’seeds’…it sounds kind of disgusting IMHO….”

LMAO, it’s not just me? It sounds very distasteful and dehumanizing. We’re not referring to horticulture — these are human beings being brought in the world. SMH.

@Sydney

lol. I knew a guy with two BM’s and one of them was on her way to drop off his son she had by him. His direct words were: ‘…yeah, she’s comin’ through here to drop my seed off…’

I was literally DONE!

@Caramel

“lol. I knew a guy with two BM’s and one of them was on her way to drop off his son she had by him. His direct words were: ‘…yeah, she’s comin’ through here to drop my seed off…’”

That’s so disgusting — no wonder he has “BMs.” When I think of “seeds,” I think of them being spread, and that’s exactly what some of us are doing — having children indiscriminately with different women/men.

Men are to TRY and persuade as many women as possible to reproduce. That’s why men are CAPABLE of having so many children.

On the other hand, women are to EVALUATE who they reproduce with. Since the number of children they can have is so much smaller relatively speaking.

“Men are to TRY and persuade as many women as possible to reproduce.”

No, not all men hold those beliefs. Ask the unmarried brothers who do not have children, by choice. As human beings, we have the power to reason and make logical decisions.

@Sydney

Yes, and their use of this kind of lingo further supports my first post. They view children as a seed they are planting and they want to ‘sew’ those seeds everywhere to prove something to themselves. Men like this are just as bad as women who get pregnant over and over again by multiple BD’s…neither individual has an excuse for their mess, but BOTH individuals are contributing to the decay of our community….

@MIJDC

smh….

@Caramel

“They view children as a seed they are planting and they want to ’sew’ those seeds everywhere to prove something to themselves. Men like this are just as bad as women who get pregnant over and over again by multiple BD’s…neither individual has an excuse for their mess, but BOTH individuals are contributing to the decay of our community….”

Absolutely. That type of lingo encourages a certain type of behavior. Children are a huge responsibility, and they deserve much more thought than what some of us are giving them.

Sydney, way to take an earlier response out of context. What I meant was if a man does not want to actively participate in the day to day rigors of child rearin’ of a child born out of a c.a.s.u.a.l. relationship, then YES!, by all means, it’s up to his discretion to pay child support if he doesn’t want the child services getting involved…Now, if he’s financially unable to fulfill his responsibilities, then the mother and mistake will (sadly) become another statistic of the welfare system if said mother is unable to provide for her mistake in judgement.

@SYDNEY
“No, not all men hold those beliefs. Ask the unmarried brothers who do not have children, by choice. As human beings, we have the power to reason and make logical decisions”
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I agree, but I was just answering a rhetorical question.

Refering to the child as “your seed” isn’t entirely incorrect, although I guess it could be viewed as cr.a.s.s.

Although trying to imagine a woman referring to her child as “her egg” would seem ridiculous.

@Marquis

“Now, if he’s financially unable to fulfill his responsibilities, then the mother and mistake will (sadly) become another statistic of the welfare system if said mother is unable to provide for her mistake in judgement.”

I see. The man is completely absolved of responsibility. May I ask in what instances do you believe that a man — not a woman — has made a “mistake in judgment” and should pay the consequences?

@Man

“I agree, but I was just answering a rhetorical question.”

Oh, OK, I didn’t realize you were being rhetorical. Whew!

@Gimmeabreak

“hyperfecundation”

Get it, sista.

@ Sydney

That sent me to the dictionary

@ Gimmeabreak

Remind me never to play scrabble with you.

@White Devil

“That sent me to the dictionary”

LMAO, me, too. I have to jot that one down in my notebook. I love new words — such a rush.

@Man

“Refering to the child as “your seed” isn’t entirely incorrect, although I guess it could be viewed as cr.a.s.s.”

Yes, it is very c*r*a*s*s. I’d put it in the same category as “hating” and “conversate.”

@White Devil

I am ferocious on the Scrabble Board, lol.

@Sydney

I discovered that word accidentally in college. Apparently, superfecundation refers to a woman carrying mulitpe embryos. Heteropaternal superfecundation refers to a woman being pregnant with twins who have different fathers. Hyperfecundation refers to a man who gets several women pregnant. The word is definitely funny , but unfortunately, the situation it describes isnt.

@Man I just don’t care

I thought you believed it was a mandate because of the way you worded it:

“Men are to TRY and persuade as many women as possible to reproduce.”

It’s as if they are supposed to do it on purpose.

Sydney, if a woman takes it upon herself to carry a man seed to term without his consent, then YES!, (logically) it should be her sole responsibility to care of her decision/mistake.

@GIMME A BREAK 78
“I thought you believed it was a mandate because of the way you worded it:

“Men are to TRY and persuade as many women as possible to reproduce.”

It’s as if they are supposed to do it on purpose.”
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Well, some of it is subconscious too.

If this story was about a woman with six baby daddies, there would be alot of comments talking about how irresponsible women are. Tell us why this bruh should be held responsible for having seven children with six different women, or should he not be the blame for part of this dysfunction. This bruh is a adult…he should know better….or does he not have a idea about what he did.

Any words Dr. Hayden?!?

@Gimmeabreak

“I discovered that word accidentally in college. Apparently, superfecundation refers to a woman carrying multiple embryos. Heteropaternal superfecundation refers to a woman being pregnant with twins who have different fathers. Hyperfecundation refers to a man who gets several women pregnant. The word is definitely funny, but unfortunately, the situation it describes isnt.”

I learned something new today, thanks. I thought White Devil’s comment about being sent to the dictionary was amusing. This is definitely a very serious matter that’s profoundly affecting our community, whatever term we decide to use to describe it.

Coincidentally, I was trying to recall the name today of the other athlete that has several children with different women whom I saw profiled recently in a TV interview. I can’t think of his name.

@Marquis

“Sydney, if a woman takes it upon herself to carry a man seed to term without his consent, then YES!, (logically) it should be her sole responsibility to care of her decision/mistake.”

What about the second portion of my question to you? Here it is again to refresh your memory: “May I ask in what instances do you believe that a man — not a woman — has made a “mistake in judgment” and should pay the consequences?”

Look, I’m not trying to stop anybody from “coming up”. Do what floats your boat. However, this recession isn’t gonna end anytime soon. The court system everywhere in America is cutting cost;layoffs, furloughs, even thousands of job losses. As a result, the federal government will have to address this issue, just as it has in the 90′s with welfare reform. When welfare benefits were cut, there was a small reduction in pregnancy in this country. Safety nets for stupidity are being eliminated due to the recession, its not anyone being mean to woman. How about choosing better men to have babies with. If some fool that works at a fast food restaurant tells you that he wahts to have you child, tell him that you are better than that and laugh in his face. Lets stop using kids as a dice game. The system isn’t profiting off of this scam anymore, and when the system doesn’t make a profit, the program gets cut. I know that it taste like caster oil, but it will help you get better.Just a theory.

lol @ Mike

Hey there.

BTW, I loved “The Lovely Bones.”

@MARQUIS DE SADE
“Sydney, if a woman takes it upon herself to carry a man seed to term without his consent, then YES!, (logically) it should be her sole responsibility to care of her decision/mistake.”
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This makes TOO much sense so you know most people won’t understand. SMH.

How was Brooklyn’s Finest, btw, Caramel?

@Man

“This makes TOO much sense so you know most people won’t understand. SMH.”

Can you respond to this question, please? In what instances do you believe that a man — not a woman — has made a “mistake in judgment” and should pay the consequences?

@Caramel

“In addition to this it would also be nice if people would plain stop laying seeds and eggs everywhere like animals and keep baby making within a marriage….smh…”

Me, too. And cease referring to children — human begins — as “seeds.” I believe that word is symbolic of a certain destructive mentality.

dang he isn’t going to have much money left for rolls royces, bling, and making it rain in the club

@Sydney™

“Accountability flows both ways.”

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I could not agree more. Use protection and be selective about the company you keep. And people need to have more respect for themselves and stop placing themselves in these precarious positions. Don’t you care about who the mother/father of your child is? Have folks just not heard of HIV/AIDS and that you could, you know, DIE from it? These things apply to BOTH genders.

@Sydney

It seems that your efforts to get some of these men to see that these babies didn’t just sprout from the heads of the babies’ mamas’ (Lord, how I hate that phrase) is futile.

With a few notable exceptions, it seems the men here believe that child-rearing is the sole responsibility of the unmarried woman.

@Sydney

They don’t have an answer to your question…either that or it’s taking a minute to register…

@Caramel

Thanks, girl. I loved Don Cheadle in “Crash,” but I think I’ll skip this film. I can always catch it on cable.

I’m going to have to leave soon. I thought I would see Kigali today since we struck a deal last night. She owes me a week, lol.

@Gimmeabreak

“It seems that your efforts to get some of these men to see that these babies didn’t just sprout from the heads of the babies’ mamas’ (Lord, how I hate that phrase) is futile.”

I think so, girl, with the exception of a few (White Devil, Mike — is that it?).

“With a few notable exceptions, it seems the men here believe that child-rearing is the sole responsibility of the unmarried woman.”

Yes, indeed. And so the vicious cycle continues. Children p-a-s-s blame — Adults accept responsibility.

@Caramel

“They don’t have an answer to your question…either that or it’s taking a minute to register…”

I can just see those wheels turning, lol.

@Sydney

I’m out of here soon myself. I am dying to know what deal you made with Kigali…she was in the Kim K thread earlier today….

@Caramel

” I am dying to know what deal you made with Kigali…she was in the Kim K thread earlier today….”

Oh, really? Well, last night, she lost a certain Oscars bet and agreed to praise black women for a week. If she was in the KK thread today, I guess that’s off. LOL!

@Sydney

Well, I will tell you, she did not make any cr.a.s.s. comments about black women. She stated that she was disappointed with Kim having her Kanye moment by trying to upstage Reggie at the superbowl events…I was shocked…

But I didn’t see any PRAISING going on….lol

@Butterscotch™

“Have folks just not heard of HIV/AIDS and that you could, you know, DIE from it?”

We’ve had this conversation so many times on this site, I’ve lost count. The sole responsibility seemingly falls on us as well.

@Caramel

“She stated that she was disappointed with Kim having her Kanye moment by trying to upstage Reggie at the superbowl events…I was shocked…”

LOL! I’ll have to check that out later. I guess that’s her attempt at “praise.” I knew it was going to be very difficult for her.

*in disbelief of how quiet it got in the thread when the men were asked about their accountability in life situations*

‘*in disbelief of how quiet it got in the thread when the men were asked about their accountability in life situations*’

LMAO, girl, they’re waiting for us to leave, so they can change into their tees and shorts and cut loose.

@Sydney
I don’t think anyone is disputing that women hold responsibility in whom they choose to procreate with. However, when is a man responsible who has several children with different women? Never? What exactly are men responsible for?

As in all paternity cases, after parernity is established, the office of child support services sends a bill to that father for all moneys, including WIC or 6mos of welfare(the max in most states),anything paid to the mother for support of his children. Most of these guys start owing child support services 1 or 2 years of additional child support before their first payment even starts. Their wages are garnished immediately and go directly to child support services…even their tax returns are taken by child support services. If the total debt by the father cant be met or he cant pay, first they revoke his driving privleges, next is jail. Men, especially black men, never get off of the hook when it comes to the court system. More black men are in Jail for failure to pay ordered child support than ever before in this country’s history. This is just another way to put a black man in jail. I didn’t make the system. I just work at the court and see this stuff everyday. Good luck.

@Sydney

Yes, you could tell she was in pain with just ‘avoiding’ it, let alone going as far as to actually ‘praise’….lol, the poor child might end up in the hospital by week’s end for internal bleeding or and anuerism (sp) or something….lmao!

Anyway girl, have a good night…I’ll check back in later to see if any of the men decided to finally reply…

@Sydney

LMAO, girl, they’re waiting for us to leave, so they can change into their tees and shorts and cut loose.

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DEAD! girl…they can’t wait to put on the wife beaters and sweats….lmao!

@Theorius Stylez

“Men, especially black men, never get off of the hook when it comes to the court system. More black men are in Jail for failure to pay ordered child support than ever before in this country’s history.”

Hmm, perhaps that should be an incentive for some men to exercise better judgment. As far as this being another way to put black men in jail, my father waited until marriage to have children and was responsible. My brother is married and has a baby and is responsible. I have cousins who are married fathers who are responsible. It seems like the men who may have an issue with the legal system are the ones who are largely, in fact, irresponsible.

@Caramel

You have a good night, too, girl!

I’m out, too. Fellas, the b-ball court is yours. Be gentle.

Now come on dont act surpised. What trips me out is how quick women are to sleep with these dudes….knowing they are trifling.

All because….hes a football player. Our values are soo F-ed up in America its not even funny anymore.

P.S. Everyone who works for L.A.Superior Courts is in fear of loosing their jobs right now…including judges. This recession is real.With the current court system in turmoil, there wont be any employees to help these poor misguided mothers. They will be forced to make better decisions.

@Sydney
It seems like the men who may have an issue with the legal system are the ones who are largely, in fact, irresponsible.

Ring the Alarm!!! Thats what poindexter has been trying to say since the 3rd grade. Its also why I dont feel sorry for anyone in this situation either, regardless of color.

@SYDNEY
“Can you respond to this question, please? In what instances do you believe that a man — not a woman — has made a “mistake in judgment” and should pay the consequences?”
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In all instances.

Now, the question is, who determines the “mistake” and the “consequences?”

Washington DC is handing out free female condoms. Doesn’t that tell women anything about Washington DC? The scam is over.

This whole system in America is crap.America and the UK are the only places people get help according to having babies and its the only reason people continue to have them.Try this nonsense in say,Ghana or any other African country,you and the children just won’t eat if you can’t provide for them.

Why do some women just give themselves to men so quickly and easily.what is so wrong about being married before you start having children?

@Cat Eyes

what is so wrong about being married before you start having children?
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Nothing is wrong with it. Black people generally just don’t do it.

@Cat Eyes
This whole system in America is crap.America and the UK are the only places people get help according to having babies and its the only reason people continue to have them.Try this nonsense in say,Ghana or any other African country,you and the children just won’t eat if you can’t provide for them.

They wont be able to eat here soon. the time is coming when these departments will be cut and eventually eliminated from American life as we know it today.The US is beginning to cut out Health & Human Services Departments….like 3rd world countries that never had these departments at all. Example. L.A. City Health & Human Services Department has been eliminated by our mayor,Antonio Villarigosa.The entire Department.Gone. L.A. first…who knows what big city is next.
I think some people feel better with their heads burried in the sand like an ostrich. I want to inform those who want to begin to prepare. Without preparation our women will be lost.

@ Gimmeabreak78
I don’t think thats the case at all–i think its that most black women i’ve met in life just don’t respect themselves enough to demand it…..

What women in her right mind would want to be with a man with 7 children with 6 different woman is soooo far beyond me,, And I truly just dont have any words for him… insane.

@CatEyes
It is a delight to blog with you. You are an intellectual and I can see that you have collected wisdom throughout the years and put it in a safe place. Please share as much of this knowledge as you can to help my people. I’m scared for the black youth in America. Foolishness is hurting our entire community because foolishness is popular. They just dont see it, and feel that rolling the dice with their babies is fine as long as it isn’t against the law. What about society? What is going to happen with these babies once corporate america wont let these women profit off of their high-priced laborers…like these athletes. Educated sistas need to step in, because most of these young ladies have been taught not to listen to a black man unless he is a fool like lil wayne or an abuser like chris brown.Believing a fool is cute overseas will get a woman laughed at.

Please
3/8/10, 17:30:pm

Now come on dont act surpised. What trips me out is how quick women are to sleep with these dudes….knowing they are trifling.

All because….hes a football player. Our values are soo F-ed up in America its not even funny anymore.

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So true

Sydney

I said in a “UTOPIAN SOCIETY”. I realize that life has its’ intangibles…And until the seed develops a beating heart, legally its’ considered an inanimate object. I know it sounds callous, but it is what it be.

@Marquis

We don’t live in a “utopian society,” nor do we live in a society where you can completely put your s*e*x*u*a*l health and life in someone else’s hands and claim to have no accountability, and this is true for men and women.

“And until the seed develops a beating heart, legally its’ considered an inanimate object. I know it sounds callous, but it is what it be.”

Yes, it does sound callous, and you and I both know that the term has been used/is used in reference to children who have been born and, indeed, their hearts beat. They’re not “seeds” — they’re human beings.

@Theorius Stylez

“None of us have the time or training to rehabilitate a fool. You have to cut all ties.period.”

So if I’m understanding you correctly, you want for some women to serve as mentors for girls/young women, but some men cannot be counted upon to do the same for young brothers?

You said this, “Educated sistas need to step in, because most of these young ladies have been taught not to listen to a black man unless he is a fool like lil wayne or an abuser like chris brown.”

Does that the same effort need to be made with most of these young men?

Allow me to re-write the last post: The same effort needs to be made with most of these young men, no?

Hello?

Sydney

It’s only a child, if the man wants his seed to be carried to term with the woman he cares for. If it’s some one night stand or someone he has a superficial relationship with, trust, in most cases said “SEED” is just that – A SEED!

Callous, yes, but (ironically) it’s life how most rational men sees’ it. – Sorry.

Sydney

I’m currently at work, so i’ll continue this discussion later when I get home, if you’re still online, and interested. Ciao, darlin’.

@Marquis

“It’s only a child, if the man wants his seed to be carried to term with the woman he cares for.”

Fair enough.

“I’m currently at work, so i’ll continue this discussion later when I get home, if you’re still online, and interested. Ciao, darlin’.”

Alright, thank you.

@Theorius Stylez

“First. Women are the bearer of our seeds.”

First, we are not the bearers of your “seeds” — We are the bearers of your CHILDREN.

“For that reason they must be protected. period”

And do you honestly believe that women are being protected?

“All that we can do as a society is build a place to put them”

Isn’t this what is commonly referred to as the prison system? Where do you propose these young men should be placed?

“Therefore, none of us have training for dealing with a mental case unless we went to college for it myself. I’m not abandoning anybody. All black boys with problems dont grow up with mental issues, but only the strong survive here in America.”

I’m not sure I understand — I’m familiar with the “survival of the fittest” philosophy, but I’m still unclear if you’re a-s-s-i-g-n-i-n-g the same level of responsibility to “educated men” for mentoring young men as what you expect of women.

@Butterscotch™

“I’m relatively sure your post was not for me, but I wanted you to know that I hear you loud and clear. (Smile) I admire your patience.”

LOL, you’re right, it wasn’t for you. I know you get it, and thanks for the encouragement.

“IMHO, that should give one pause to ponder the quality of “the company one keeps” before cavorting with someone. But, that’s just me. I’m obviously in the minority, but I have never been one to follow the crowd.”

Well, that makes two of us — I think we’re in the minority on this particular blog, but I don’t consider that a negative at all. I think it’s obvious that individuals here have a variety of very different mindsets.

@Butterscotch™/Caramel

If you do not mind, may I get your take on an opinion of mine? Some of the mentality displayed in this post is what I believe has contributed to the placement of black women in roles traditionally a*s*s*i*g*n*e*d to men. I seem to read a common refrain on this blog that black women are primarily the individuals held responsible in a variety of scenarios that have a proven destructive impact on our community.

@Sydney

I agree with you and it is sickening. That is why I am trying to push the idea that ok, so the system is set up to cause confusion and irresponsibility….does that mean we have to fall for this hook, line, and sinker? When does the fact that you have a brain to think and rise above the bull come into play?

@Caramel

I’m sure you’re aware of the effects the welfare system has had on the black family over generations. And, yes, I think some of us are perpetuating this sense of disorientation and the blurring of gender roles. I feel like there are two very disparate frames of thought — the belief that women are largely responsible for the direction for the race, and the thinking that women are usurping the power of men, yet they have been placed in positions in which they are deemed the leaders/providers. It’s schizophrenic in aspects, to say the least, IMHO.

@Sydney™

“I seem to read a common refrain on this blog that black women are primarily the individuals held responsible in a variety of scenarios that have a proven destructive impact on our community.”

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I agree and it absolutely befuddles me. What I really feel is missing is a lack of “partnership” in addressing issues. Instead, discussions seem to take on a one-sided dimension, which is neither helpful nor enlightening and especially not productive.

@Butterscotch™

“What I really feel is missing is a lack of “partnership” in addressing issues.”

You said it in a nutshell — thank you for crystallizing what I’ve been feeling for a while. I do not understand why there cannot be an agreement upon the responsibility that both black men AND black women bear in our current struggles. There seems to be a marked lack of maturity and collaboration in a number of these discussions.

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@CANDICE CAN’T HELP BUT TO NOTICE YOU MADE HER EXEMPT B/C SHE HAS A COLLEGE DEGREE & WORKING ON A LAW DEGREE…LET ME GUESS! I BET IT TO BE A ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY…

@Sydney

Sorry I got pulled away for a minute, but yes, everything you’ve stated is correct and I can’t understand the lack of desire amongst our men to help fix this sickness. It’s almost like they like how the system has affected our community, and are content with standing back, talking trash, while doing nothing. As the male blogger said earlier, our women are supposed to be protected. If the system has damaged our women, then where is the desire to end this damage. I’m not saying that all the responsibility lies on the men, but there has to be a DESIRE for things to be better before it can actually GET better…*shrugs shoulders*

WHILE DUDE WAS TRYNA STUNT ON THAT SHOW CANDY GIRLS BUYING DIAMONDS TRICK’N HE SHOULD’VE BEEN TAKING CARE OF THOSE KIDS…I BET THAT SHOW IS WHAT SET ALL THOSE GIRLS OFF & SENT THEM STRAIGHT TO THE CHILD SUPPORT OFFICE AFTER THEY SAW THAT ON TV…SMH!

I truly believe that if a man’s personal life is that messy than he will be no good on the field. These coaches need to drop these ignorant niccas & all some responsible players to their roaster.

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I’ll sum it up this way then. Lets simplify. Obama said all unnecessary programs will be cut shortly after he took office. Dont you see, programs and services are being cut in your own community everyday? Safety nets for all of those excuse-makers in life will be cut. If the gov is giving women female condoms, it means the county building,dcss,wic,food stamps,planned parenthood all hand-out services everywhere is closing down and will not be a part of the american life-style. Get smart. Blaming others and excuse making will be worth nothing in America.The Truth is like caster oil. say ahh!

GROSS! One day he’s gonna wake up and his d!ck is gonna be on the floor. =|

dumb a.s.s.

Caramel Cat™
3/8/10, 21:32:pm
@Sydney

Sorry I got pulled away for a minute, but yes, everything you’ve stated is correct and I can’t understand the lack of desire amongst our men to help fix this sickness. It’s almost like they like how the system has affected our community, and are content with standing back, talking trash, while doing nothing. As the male blogger said earlier, our women are supposed to be protected. If the system has damaged our women, then where is the desire to end this damage. I’m not saying that all the responsibility lies on the men, but there has to be a DESIRE for things to be better before it can actually GET better…*shrugs shoulders*
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nice.

sydney and caramel are clearly the two smartest people on here.

I don’t understand why these people are not afraid of disease.

@Caramel

“Sorry I got pulled away for a minute, but yes, everything you’ve stated is correct and I can’t understand the lack of desire amongst our men to help fix this sickness. It’s almost like they like how the system has affected our community, and are content with standing back, talking trash, while doing nothing. As the male blogger said earlier, our women are supposed to be protected. If the system has damaged our women, then where is the desire to end this damage. I’m not saying that all the responsibility lies on the men, but there has to be a DESIRE for things to be better before it can actually GET better…*shrugs shoulders*”

I’m sorry for my late response. I don’t think I can add much to what you wrote so eloquently. The system/structure we now have in place is clearly sick — It is NOT working. We can all see that. Our children are suffering, and, and, from what I’ve seen, a wide-scale collaborative effort has not yet been waged to fix the problems. I’ve thought for a while that, unfortunately, that such an effort would have to be waged by women, but in order for us to have any success, we MUST have partnership, and I’m sorry, but I do not see enough of that occurring at this point while dysfunctions continue to fester. Honestly, I think the next generation of men and women is already damaged.

@Sankofa

I would add Butterscotch.

why don’t they buy him a vasectomy AND some condoms?!?!? Just trife. Another black man spreading his seed and not making a home for more black kids.

With seven children by six different women in five states

are you serious??

Did I miss something? WHEN did it become alright for WOMEN to wanna sleep with ANY man without insisting on him wearing a condom. These tricks (yes, i called the TRICKS) are about as smart as a shrimp in the Gulf waters today!. So what he’s a celebrity! Do you really want an STD? or something worst? Did your mother, school or whoever raised you teach you anything productive? The fact there are 6 women out there playing russian roulette with their life should have men out there scared..PERIOD…What a world we are in today to think of the stupidity that still exists! OMG!!!