Bill Cosby Calls Black People Out Again At 2010 Essence Festival

Posted on July 6th, 2010 - By Bossip Staff

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Bill Cosby at Essence Festival

Bill Cosby, the self-appointed Daddy of all Black people, gave some tough love to the crowd at the 2010 Essence Festival. Bill dropped some jewels of wisdom and offered harsh criticism of the black community. Pop it to hear what he had to say.

Bill Cosby kept it 100 at his keynote address during the African-American Education Summit at the 2010 Essence Music Festival in New Orleans on Saturday. He publicly admonished black parents and children for failing to assume responsibility for their families and futures. Here are some highlights:

“We’ve got to lay it out for them,” Cosby said when asked about how to help cut the rate of teen pregnancies in America. “Let’s tell them about life. You’re 14 and having sex. OK. So, what kind of job do you have?”

Cosby, who received a standing ovation when he walked on stage, said the African-American community must get involved if change is going to occur in any area.

“Apathy is strangling you to death,” he said, to rousing applause and a few ‘Amens’ from the crowd.

“Get up. Stay on the scene. Be a studying machine,” he said, drawing from soul singer James Brown’s lyrics.

“We need to start getting into people’s business. We need to say, ‘Hey, I’m your cousin man, I’m your brother, I’m your sister and I don’t care if you don’t talk to me anymore but your teenage daughter ain’t got no business dressing like that!’ Tell them.”

Cosby also urged black people to reclaim communities riddled with violence and drug abuse:

“How long do we wait? When are you going to wake up? We can’t keep blaming people and expecting people to fix it. This has to stop.”

The moderator asked Cosby how to keep children out of harm’s way after reeling off a string of statistics, such as the thousands of young people killed by gun violence.

“Look under the mattress,” he said of hiding places for guns. “He don’t pay rent. Treat them as a child and remind them that you’re the one raising them.”

He then told the story of how a woman asked her son one day where he had been. “The boy said ‘uh, uh, no where.’ She asked him again, where he’d been. Again, he said, ‘uh, uh, no where. I ain’t doing nothing.’ She said, boy, where you been? Finally, he told her he was on the corner, hanging out.

“The woman looked at him and told him, ‘If you’re not in the picture, you can’t be framed.”

We’re going to ride with Bill on this one. Somebody had to say it.

Rumor has it that he also sneaked in the following BDR diss: “Russell Simmons is as bright as a burnt out lightbulb. Tell him I said it!”

WOW

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  • Trustworthy

    WOW! Speak truth Mr. Cosby, I for one ain’t mad at’cha…

  • Hannibal

    SHOUT OUT TO BILL FOR ALWAYS KEEPIN IT REAL…

  • Trustworthy

    Oh yeah FIRST!!!

  • me

    yay!!! first..can somebody tell me wat BDR means?

  • Jackie

    I am in 100% agreeance with Bill! The black community is in a crisis! Self hatred is destroying our communities! Black men and black women hating one another and making disparging remarks about one another. Our kids killing one another for random stupidity…so many individuals struggled and died for our equality…and we end up acting like fools!

  • that damn sh#$ disturber

    “If you’re not in the picture, you can’t be framed” LOVE IT!!

  • drenk

    @ me

    Blood Diamond Russel [Simmons], dunno where they got it from im a,s.s.uming he had something to do with dirty diamonds

  • Shadow

    The only individual who would disagree with Bill is the individual who is part of the destruction of Black America. Truth hurts….deal with it.

  • juliemango

    Truth was told!!!

  • LMAO

    THE TRUTH ALWAYS HURT THE ONES IN DENIAL.
    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MR COSBY.

  • team ghana

    Co-sign Dr.Cosby, someone has to keep it real, lol.

  • Hannibal

    WHITES ARE THE NEW BLACKS! BLACKS ARE GONNA BE EXTINCT SOON. JUST LET THEM ALL DESTROY EACH OTHER LIKE THEY USUALLY DO!

  • Divine

    I absolutely agree with him!

  • Butterscotch™

    “Treat them as a child and remind them that you’re the one raising them.”

    There is a lot of truth to that. Some parents – NOT ALL – are so focused on being their child’s best friend that they forget their primary purpose is to be the adult and provide guidance.

  • garchelle06

    YESSSSS Bill get them!!!!

  • Sydney™

    I found this snippet in an article about Dr. Cosby’s remarks in the N.O. Times-Picayune:

    “Cosby recalled speaking at a Newark, N.J., high school that graduated 255 students out of a ninth-grade class that started with 750. As he looked at the graduates, he said, he noticed that about 80 percent were female. Of the top 13 honor students in the class, only one was male.”

    ———————————————-

    These sorts of statistics are devastating, and I’ve read about the dropout rates of up to 50 percent in cities such as Detroit. Dr. Cosby is right — apathy is killing us, literally and figuratively. Some of us have embraced mediocrity as a standard for governing our lives, and it is an absolute tragedy that gun violence is reportedly the leading cause of death for black youths between the ages of 10 and 24. I read another quote from Dr. Cosby in which he suggested that if black children were being killed by white lynch mobs, people would “riot in the streets.”

    We’ve been in a state of national emergency for some time now, and it only seems to be worsening. Just the other day, I read about yet another weekend of shootings in Chicago, for example. I think such incidents are occurring so frequently that some of us are becoming desensitized to the constant bloodshed in cities across the country.

  • Baybaybay

    Although Mr.Cosby is giving some much needed advice to people in the inner cities on how to make their lives better I’m not too happy with Mr. Cosby, the only time we hear a peep out of him is when he’s bashing lower income blacks and airing out their dirty laundry! Bill Cosby is stinking rich why don’t he invest his money into programs that are already doing well helping people in crisis or starting one of his own. Just talking bad about people is not productive.

  • Prophetik Soul

    Since Bill is telling the truth, here is a question. Are any of you listening to music by artists that promotes and encourages the destruction of black communities?

  • koolatta

    BDR – Big Daddy Russ aka Dirty Old Man Russy because he is always after some young tail and looking to be on the scene. So insecure.

  • panther

    He’s right and regardless of what he’s did in the past he’s speaking the truth.If someone speaks the truth you have to say its the truth. and we can all start in our homes and our families first if you don’t have kids but you have siblings that have children start speaking to them about self esteem and respecting their community ect…………

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    THIS OLD RAPIST CANT TELL ME CHIT!

  • GetRight

    I’ve never liked him. But he has a few points…

  • That’s What Time It Is

    I’m glad Bill Cosby said it, just like I was glad when he spoke out about it the first time. Black people need to collectively wake the fugg up!

  • KENNEDY

    Black men: We need your help while raising your children. There are SOME women who have raised amazing young men and women in the hood alone but not many. Step up and lead in your communities. Reach out to a youngsta who cares if you’re not his biological father. I agree w/Bill this is an epidemic.

  • Jackie

    I’m sorry, but just because Bill is rich, it doesn’t mean that he’s responsible for the decay of the low income African American neighborhoods! Stop looking for someone to save you…invest in your own communities! So many poor asians come to America and focus on better themselves and the communities through education! We value pookie with his gold grill and pants sagging, driving a nice whip, but still living with his mother…pathetic!!!

  • KENNEDY

    GLOK

    Hey! you are so crazy. I kinda feel you on that. But is he not correct is his a.s.s.e.s.s.ment?

  • Jackie

    Oh yea…Pookie who has five different kids, by five different females, but not participating in the upbringing or financial support of any of the kids!!

  • Sydney™

    @Glok

    Brother, who would you prefer to publicly address some of our existing challenges?

    From what I recall, a lot of people had issues with President Obama’s Father’s Day speech from a year or so as well. Rather than focusing on the person who’s standing in front of the audience, should we not pay attention when someone is stating the obvious? These observations need to be shared and acknowledged. Dr. Cosby is not the source of the problem.

  • http://SouthSideGirl SouthSideGirl

    @ Glok:
    I agree with you…Did I really say that?

    Here’s a topic that Bill will never touch: INFIDELITY!! Does he support the daughter he had out of wedlock? Does anyone remember that whole blackmail fiasco? With all the Tigers, Tikis, Steve McNairs, GSU’s Damon Evans, and countless others, wonder why that subject isn’t addressed by Mr. Cosby?

    Black fathers are needed at home, not out in the streets doing whatever with whomever. Families are being torn apart by poor choices made by black men.

    There are many issues facing the demise of the black family, Mr. Cosby, and this is just one of the many.

    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

  • Jamaica

    I only agree with one point of Mr. Cosby’s “rant”: WE have to take charge of OUR own communities and help our youth and each other. Stop asking, begging, pleading, and expecting the people in power (Caucasians at this time in history) for help. That’s a total waste of time and effort. That energy should be put into us doing for self. Instead of being concerned about material goods and putting time into promoting/encouraging interracial relationships, invest in YOUR community and YOUR people first. Our youth need our help to combat this system’s structural violence and intentional brainwashing. Heck, many of our adults need that help too!

    My only problem with Mr. Cosby is that he has the access and means to make a much bigger impact. That doesn’t mean that our individual impact is so small that it’s not needed. It means that he should be leading by example. Anybody can sit back on their a** and be critical without action. That doesn’t amount to a hill of beans. It’s actually more destructive then being quiet and being inactive. Since Mr. Cosby has so much criticism, I’m assuming that he’s also taking the time to create some actual, viable solutions, right? Take all of those billions and mobilize some organization in OUR communities. Go to all of these poor Black communities and start some programs. Help duplicate good education combined with social help like the Harlem Children’s Zone across the country in our poor neighborhoods. Start some programs that take our youth outside of the country to get some other perspectives because most of them have never been exposed to anything outside of BET and their city limits. That’s just a start for Mr. Cosby because the list is long.

    WE all have a job to do…including Mr. Cosby.

  • That’s What Time It Is

    Bill has also donated MILLIONS to charitable causes to benefit black people, so he puts his money where his mouth is. His poundcake speech was CLASSIC! I only wish I could have been there to see Jesse n’em put their heads down.

  • Caramel Cat™

    I agree with Bill’s words, but I think he is missing the point. There is a solid and bonafide REASON why there are so many problems within the black community and many of them are influenced by outside factors. Yes, there are many things that we can do collectively to help ourselves, I agree with that. But there are also many things that are in place institutionally, and it makes progression in many areas next to impossible. I would respect Bill alot more if I saw him actively involved in bettering our youth on a bureacratic level than just sitting back talking trash and letting everyone else know how broken we are…

  • http://espn.com Toya

    He may be speaking the truth be he ain’t doing nuttin bout the truth. Is it his responsiblities to help us black ppl ? No. But…. When u make a comment like this and do nothing about it. He is only including himself in this story he is talking about. So as my man Barry white would say.. Practice what you preach..

  • Just Bored

    The best person to listen to is someone that has been through what your trying to get through.

    Mr. Cosby made some errors in his life, but now he is using it to say something to Black people and the community. I doubt he is putting himself out there as an angel, but as an example in some ways.

    If you mess up, forgive yourself, move forward, and don’t do it again. And if your about to do something you know is wrong, stop and think about it one more time.

    We have to start instilling in young men and women that they are worth the best, but sometimes waiting and working on the best takes great patience.

    **Maury P. and Jerry S.** need to be boycotted by black Americans as they promote the type of ignorance that keeps black America in the category of “classless”.

  • ThatsWhatThatIS

    @mtymn 100% cosign!!!!!

  • Butterscotch™

    Hi, Sid!
    Hi, Caramel Cat!

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    KENNEDY! HEY ,..ANYBODY COULD HAVE READ THAT AND TH AS.S.SESSMENT,..IM TID OF THESE FOLKS TELLING US WHAT WE NED TO DO ,..BUT IZ NEVER IN THE FIELDS SHOWING US THEY READY TO FIGHT FULLY,..FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IZ DEAD ,..NAME SOMTHING CONCERNING BLK HE ATTENDED!

    SYD I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GOING TO BRING UP OBAMA MESSAGE TO THE BLK MAN SPEECH ,…HE ONLY DID THAT FOR WHITE AMERICA WHILE RUNNING FOR PREZ AFTER THEY ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A “BLKMAN”,AND TELLING THOSE OUT OF WORK WHITE HE NOT GONNA FAVOR US BLK MEN !

  • ELLA

    Can i get an AMEN?? but seriously c’mon Black people. Let’s RISE!! Educate ourselves, let’s love ourselves and uplift each other in positive light. Let’s celebrate a beautiful, strong and rich heritage.

  • willy b hardigan

    I don’t mind him saying this, however doesn’t he have an illegitimate? And wasn’t there some funny business about it? So while he may be right the message needs a new messenger. Not difficult to spout your rhetoric when you’ve been making millions for forty years.

  • Sydney™

    I echo the poster above who mentioned Cosby’s millions of dollars of donations over the years to charitable organizations and to other entities, including a number of HBCUs. In January, it was also reported that he and philanthropist Earl W. Stafford started a new website called “Doing Good: The People’s Project” to encourage individuals to volunteer to help others.

    @Caramel

    “I would respect Bill alot more if I saw him actively involved in bettering our youth on a bureacratic level than just sitting back talking trash and letting everyone else know how broken we are…”

    Hey, girl. I understand your perspective, but isn’t our dirty laundry already being aired every night on the evening news? When new studies are released? When you turn on the radio or the TV and hear and see a steady stream of stereotypical lyrics and images?

  • chi town

    @baybaybay
    Bill has put hella money into the hoods of phili. Get it straight. Its a shame that you think he’s putting us on blast. Im part of a low income famiily in a black community and I have to say that Bill is the only one to come out and say what these suppose to be black leaders dont. White poeple are going to think bad of us no matter what, so forget them Bill aint said nothing they dont see on the news. And to that glok character. we all know you are white and racist. stop pretending to be black homie.

  • Just Me

    @Baybaybay, Mr. Cosby is not bashing low-income black people, he’s speaking the truth!!!! And the dirty laundry needs airing out because it stinks to high heavens. If he didn’t care he wouldn’t even be bothered with it all, he’s sit back and live off his millions with the attitude of I got mines you get your the best you can. And Mr. and Mrs. Cosby have put their money where the mouth is, they have given MILLIONS to colleges and started scholorship funds for lower income students. Just google his charity works. It’s time for the black community to come up and stop blaming others, especially whites for being held back. Whether you agree or not agree with his politics, Barack Obama was elected as our first black president, there is NO EXCUSE for why we can’t achieve!!!!!!

  • Gabulous

    He is just stating the truth and he also knows that ignorance will prevail on this subject as well. We as a people need to stop getting so mad when a mirror is put in front of us. I cringe at the lack of common sense some people have just by looking at some of these comments, the state of our youth is so scary–futureless, disrespectful and pathetic. He is just stating fact–don’t get mad get some sense.

  • That’s What Time It Is

    Let’s look at some of the ways Bill Cosby has sat back and done nothing for black people.

    $20 Million gift to Spelman College.
    $1.3 million gift to Fisk University
    $1.3 million divided equally among four other Black universities–Central State, Howard, Florida A&M and Shaw. $
    1.5 million divided between Meharry Medical College ($800,000) and Bethune-Cookman College ($750,000).

    That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I’d say the man has earned the right to speak his opinion on the current state of Black America at least as much as somebody else with an opinion at a gossip site.

  • Kenyetta

    Great Words! I agree!

  • http://espn.com Who

    Bill Cosby needs to invest his time doing something better than just putting the black community down.. Do domethibg that praise why can’t he say something positives.. Like black college graduate is at an arise at 18.8% from four years.. Black people are becoming owners in there company.. Stuff like that stop being so political all the time. Cuz than he can say something about every race than. He is a mess.

  • Gabulous

    Oh, BTW Black people also need to stop expecting hand outs. Even if he didn’t do anything for Blacks he has a right to speak his mind. He was speaking about us as a PEOPLE he didn’t denote one income level or another.

  • Just Me

    *That should be he’d sit back and not he’s

  • Well

    THE TRUTH HURTS. I ASK ONE QUESTION– IS HE LYING? NO! DEAL WITH IT. Instead of getting angry at him, get angry at the mothers and fathers who are neglecting their children and get mad at those who break the law. Wow! What misdirected anger. SMH

  • KENNEDY

    GLOK

    Right! but his past indiscretions don’t make it any less true.

  • Caramel Cat™

    Hey Butterscotch!

    Hey Syd!

    Yes, I agree with you but I don’t think we need one of our own adding fuel to the flames. I think Bill is very well aware of what outside factors prohibit our youth from reaching their ultimate potential, even when they are trying so very hard. I think people need to hear the truth, so I commend him on that, but honestly it’s not helping anything IMHO…

  • Sydney™

    Hi Butterscotch!

    @Glok

    “SYD I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GOING TO BRING UP OBAMA MESSAGE TO THE BLK MAN SPEECH ,…HE ONLY DID THAT FOR WHITE AMERICA WHILE RUNNING FOR PREZ AFTER THEY ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A “BLKMAN”,AND TELLING THOSE OUT OF WORK WHITE HE NOT GONNA FAVOR US BLK MEN !”

    Again, who do you think is appropriate/qualified to publicly address these issues? I think for some, it wouldn’t matter who delivered the message — it’s the message itself they find objectionable.

  • Well

    People keep asking what has Bill Cosby done (he’s done a lot). Instead ask yourselves, what have you done? You don’t have to have money to make a positive difference in someone’s life. Some people just like to be miserable and do nothing about their misery.

  • Well

    @ GLOK – I have one question for you. What have you done positive for the black community? I’m guessing not much. If you have, please prove me wrong and state what you’ve done.

  • Butterscotch™

    @Sydney™

    “In January, it was also reported that he and philanthropist Earl W. Stafford started a new website called “Doing Good: The People’s Project” to encourage individuals to volunteer to help others.”

    ____________________________________

    I think Bill spends a lot of his time and money trying to help others. I really do. That said, it seems that the issue in this instance is his method of delivery, not necessarily the content. How easily a person digest information often depends on HOW it is communicated. Yes, he is telling the truth. But, I’m guessing that it would go over a little easier if he put a more positive spin on it. For excample, weaving some of his positive volunteer work experiences into his speeches may resonate more personally with folks. Sometimes, you have to inspire others to get the results you want. Different methods of delivery work for different people. But, at the end of the day, Bill is gonna be Bill.

  • KENNEDY

    If what Bill Cosby says make you uncomfortable in any way He is talking to you….

  • JODY

    its a tough road first is going to have to start with BLACKWOMEN

    STOP SLEEPING WITH THUGS AND HAVING THERE KIDS

    then expecting them to be dads go for good blackmen so your child will have a father god dammit.

    Most blackmen i find are doing the dumb ish they do for girls.

    we falling off the bus trying to impress these hoes that needs to stop.

    WE CAN DO IT…….

  • Kristina

    I totally agree with Bill Cosby and the people getting butt hurt over what he said are part of the problem. His message rings loud and true and somehow folks find a way to discredit him by bringing up his past and personal life. So people can’t change. So we make mistakes early on in life and we’re not allowed to speak about rising up, ever again? GTFOH. He’s done so much charitable work for the black community, so stop with the ‘oh he needs to do more than just sit back and talk down to us’. Google is your friend, use it.

  • Sydney™

    @Glok

    “BUT THIS CAT AINT THE ONE BLK MALES WILL LISTEN TOO, HE OUT OF TOUCH,..AND DONT KNOW HOW TO TALK TO THESE KIDS ,..AND THEY CANT RELATE TO HIM,..”

    Why can’t they relate to him?

    “PHUK SHOWING HIM RESPECT HE DID NOTHING FOR BLKS …AND CERTAINLY NOT THE BLK OF TODAY “COSBY SHOW”…PLZ, HOW MANY BLK FAMILIES COULD HAVE REALLY LIVED THAT LAVISH ,..”

    Are you serious? So you’re one of the individuals who thinks that the “Cosby Show” represented a fantasy world?

    I think we’re getting to the heart of the real issue here.

    @Caramel

    “I think people need to hear the truth, so I commend him on that, but honestly it’s not helping anything IMHO…”

    True, but I think a lack of action may be the cause of little change occurring.

  • Well

    It’s not his delivery, it’s his message. People hate to look at themselves and face the truth when it’s ugly. At this stage in the game he should not sugarcoat anything. We as a race are in a critical state. The message needs to be in a harsh tone. I truly the believe the people who have an issue with his message feel his is talking about them. Don’t shoot the messenger.

  • willy b hardigan

    STOP TALKING ABOUT DONATIONS IT’S A TAX WRITE OFF DO YOU IDIOTS KNOW ANYTHING?

  • Cornbread, Earl, and Me

    Tell’em the truth Bill. Don’t shoot the messenger. Heed the message and pass it on. You don’t have to be a s.a.i.n.t to disperse good advice.

  • KENNEDY

    @JODY

    That old bs assumption is wrong. EVERYTHING Is not our fault. What about the men I know w/careers not jobs who refuse share parenting w/the mother of their children GTFOH!

    If YTE thugs understand the benefit of a two parent home why can’t Black ones? BM are too full of excuses and non of em worth hearing anymore.

  • Betty

    Bill is only speaking the truth. I’m afraid that in 100 years blacks will go the way of the Native Americans.

    If you notice the poorest and most uneducated Native Americans live on reservations. The other Native Americans that could leave left the reservation and disappeared racially and culturally into the larger society. This is already happening now with us and the difference will be further exaggerated in the future.

    But what will make our situation worse is that we won’t have the slight economic benefit of casinos.

  • She’s Nicole

    BILL COSBY IS THE ONLY BLACK PERSON I LIKE.

  • Well

    These “tax donations” don’t have to go to the black community. There are a million other places he can use his money for a tax right off.

  • Black Admiral

    We can kill the messanger all we want but the message should be loud and clear…we are our own worst enemy….look at the comments, the first thing we say is he’s old, rich etc….What he said is true if your pissed off he’s probably talking about your ignorant family and values….We need to grow up as a poeple and become responsible for our communtiy…

  • Caramel Cat™

    @Syd

    Don’t get me wrong, some of the very things Bill is saying I’ve said to folks before because I know they know better. But what I’m speaking about is more so on a grand scale. How would it look if George Lopez went on the a nationally syndicated talk show (such as Bill did on the Oprah show) and just spouted out how effed up the latino population is here in America? Sure, he may back up his statements by putting money into COLLEGES (which many minority children never even get to in order to reap the full benefits), but what good does it do to keep spouting out this information over and over again? In my opinion it shows very little unity and a sense of elitism within our own race…Again, he makes great points, but I think one time may have been enough….

  • Well

    *write off

  • KENNEDY

    GLOK and Carmel Cat

    I agree w/both of you. I think to some degree it has become entertainment to ytes as well. That IS an issue that plagues the Black community. A lack of loyalty…..

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    We can’t wait for institutionalized racism to stop from some companies, or the prison system, or racism period. We asked for equality years ago, and nothing still hasn’t changed.

    If we want to do better as a community, we have to do it ourselves and demand that more black people start taking ALL black people to task. The problem with some black people, is that we don’t want the world knowing about our dirty laundry.

    I agree with Bill. We need more black people to get up and speak out about both black men and black women, not just one gender.

  • http://logicvigilante.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kanyewestentourage1.jpg Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    Instead ask yourselves, what have you done? You don’t have to have money to make a positive difference in someone’s life.
    _______________________________________________

    @Well

    Excellent Point!!!

    All I know is that whenever I’m volunteering and doing something to uplift my community and/or for Black People, MORE times than not there are a bunch of white people there and NOT Black People which is sad & pitiful if you ask me… It’s been that way throughout the years and regardless of what kind of volunteering project I’m involved with…

  • Caramel Cat™

    @KENNEDY

    Exactly. It is starting to come off as entertainment and gives other races the green light to address OUR supposed problems…that’s all I’m saying…

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    SYD!
    I CANT THINK OF NO ONE CUZ, WE AS A PPL SHOULD KNOW BETTER,…WE KILL ALL OUR LEADERS OR LET THE MEDIA DO IT ,..ID RATHER MYSELF TO DELIVER THAT MEESAGE OR BROTHAZ THAT REALLY CARE LIKE ME ..ID RATHER HEAR YOU A BLK WOMAN GIVE THAT SPEECH SISTA, YOU’D SEEM GENUINE AND NOT TRYING TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK OF THE PLIGHT OF MY PPL!

  • Sydney™

    @Butterscotch™

    “For excample, weaving some of his positive volunteer work experiences into his speeches may resonate more personally with folks. Different methods of delivery work for different people. But, at the end of the day, Bill is gonna be Bill.”

    Yes, I think he’s going to be himself and whether he offends people or not is not his primary concern. Honestly, I sense a great deal of frustration in his remarks in recent years, and he has become more and more vociferous in his speech. At this point, he’s going to say what’s on his mind.

    @Caramel

    “In my opinion it shows very little unity and a sense of elitism within our own race…Again, he makes great points, but I think one time may have been enough….”

    Yes, I’ve heard that criticism made of him and others, but the problems that plague us are persisting, with no end in sight.

  • B3 Fearless

    For all of the Cosby Critics:

    What have you done to uplift our community and contribute in a positive way?

    Cosby has contributed millions to HBCU’s and community organizations just Google it like the poster “That’s What Time It Is” just did.

    Stop trying to criticize the messenger and focus on the message he had.

  • B3 Fearless

    People are talking about him airing our dirty laundry.

    HELLO?!

    He was at the Essence Music Festival speaking primarily to an African American audience!!!

    If we can’t be real in addressing our own than that’s a problem.

  • Butterscotch™

    @Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    “All I know is that whenever I’m volunteering and doing something to uplift my community and/or for Black People, MORE times than not there are a bunch of white people there and NOT Black People which is sad & pitiful if you ask me… It’s been that way throughout the years and regardless of what kind of volunteering project I’m involved with…”

    ________________________________

    Unfortunately, I have witnessed the same thing in my volunteer work. There are usually one (just myself) or two folks of color volunteering, YET most of the people in need that we help have brown skin. It’s disconcerting, to say the least.

  • She said it.

    Whereas I did not elect Sloppy Sherry Shephard, Steve no Harved Harvey nor Dumber than a box of rocks DL Hugley to speak on my behalf.

    I did elect Bill Cosby.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    Black people don’t want these problems aired, but they want the problems to get better.

    These problems aren’t going away, because first, black people don’t want other blacks to talk about it publicly, and most black people are only concerned with their families. We talk a good game about what’s wrong with the community, but not enough black people actually get out and volunteer and try to make a difference in the community.

    Again, if we don’t want blacks to talk about this, but we want these cycles to cease, then who should we expect to discuss it? White people?

    I can respect any black person who discusses this issue who demands more from black people, and takes both black men and black women to task.

  • Dead Prez

    @GLOK-THank you brother.I am glad you know the real deal.Unfortunately, most of our so called black leaders are working with the enemy and have ulterior motives.They really could care less about the problems affecting us because they are getting paid under the table.Yes Bill had valid points, but @ the end of the day it starts with us as individuals to help our communities. I wish people would would stop saying we have a black president like that means anything,if you only knew the truth..Ever heard of Zbiginew Brzezinski? If not you should find out, that is why Obama is president.

  • Whateva

    F you Cosby and get a life. What has he done? Is he volunteering? Mentoring? Calling out other famous black men who put down black women in the public eye on a regular basis.

    You’re an irrelevant old man who’s time has passed.

  • http://logicvigilante.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kanyewestentourage1.jpg Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    It’s not his delivery, it’s his message. People hate to look at themselves and face the truth when it’s ugly. At this stage in the game he should not sugarcoat anything. We as a race are in a critical state. The message needs to be in a harsh tone.
    ______________________________________________

    @Well

    That’s right!!! = “People hate to look at themselves and face the truth when it’s ugly”…

    You’re on fire, don’t stop…

  • getting down

    I have volunteered many times and it’s true that there is usually two or three blacks max volunteering……But it may be because white people have been put in better situations in their life time and they are comfortable so now, they are in a position to help someone else.

    When black people are stress/depressed/repressed/oppressed and without many options, the last thing on your mind is to volunteer your time when you can be using that same free time to try to uplift yourself, and put you and your family in a better position.

    There are many Asians and P.R who utilize free services in America but you hardly see any of them volunteering!

  • Caramel Cat™

    @Syd

    You are correct. But, I’ve been a volunteer for Big Brothers Big Sisters for years and I can tell you that many of the children in that program come from families that ARE trying to progress but they are in c.i.r.c.u.m.s.t.a.n.t.i.a.l. situations that IMHO were not of their doing, they are just a product of their environment. Until the ENVIRONMENT and everything that drives its existence is fixed, you can’t necessarily expect the people in the environment to understand how to do better….that’s all I mean…

  • Sydney™

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “Again, if we don’t want blacks to talk about this, but we want these cycles to cease, then who should we expect to discuss it? White people?”

    They’re already discussing us, i.e. “Black in America” and other national reports and programs.

  • That’s What Time It Is

    Cosign with Be Real Numero Uno.

    The excuses never stop, don’t they? It actually makes sense to some folks to settle for Black disfunction and mediocrity while we wait for the end of intitutionalized racism. These are the same folks who thought Obama shouldn’t run for President because of institutionalized racism.

    In short, “He/we can’t win.”

    The defeated mindset of so many Black people is disturbing.

  • B3 Fearless

    @getting down

    I don’t know…I personally got into volunteering when I was in college. I went to a Jesuit institution so they heavily promoted and encouraged volunteering and studying abroad.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @getting down

    But it may be because white people have been put in better situations in their life time and they are comfortable so now, they are in a position to help someone else.

    ~~~

    THANK YOU!

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    Nothing has changed. White people created stereotypes about blacks, and some of us are still acting foolish. We cannot expect stereotypes to go away from white people, or what we see on TV. We asked for equality years ago, and kept asking for it. We asked for better schools, better education, a fair legal system for our people, and they still didn’t give it to us. We know they want.

    But we can get out here and demand more from black people. There isn’t anything stopping none of us from talking to people in the community and volunteering.

    @Glok

    I can actually see you and Sydney giving a speech to the community. Real talk.

  • B3 Fearless

    @Caramel Cat

    I am not understanding what you are saying sis.

    You said:

    “Until the ENVIRONMENT and everything that drives its existence is fixed, you can’t necessarily expect the people in the environment to understand how to do better”

    But you stated prior to that, that the families you have encountered with in BB/BS are trying to progess and they come from that SAME environment.

    Can you clarify? I think I missed something.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    SYD POUSSIANT CANT TALK TO THSE KIDS CUZ THEY LOST TOUCH ALONG TIME AGO ,..CASH RULE EVERYTHING AROUND YOU SISTA AND THEY OUT TO SELL TO THE WHITE AUDIENCE, NOT US ,..SURE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT PLAGUE US IZ GOOD ,..BUT DO YOU DO IT IN FRONT THE WORLD?,.. I DO SPEAK TO YOUNG BROTHERS AND OF COURSE ITS WHAT I GOT THAT GET THEY ATTENTION ..AND SHOWING THEM HOW TO MAKE IT IN A POSITIVE WAY AND NOT HURT YOU OWN KIND…I GIVE ENCOURAGING WORDS, I DONT TALK TO THEM LIKE I LIVE IN THY SHOES CUZ I DONT AND NEITHER DOES COSBY AND POUSSAINT..AND THEY NEVER WAS DOWN FOR THE BLK RACE JUST THE ONES THAT HAVE AND NOT THE HAVE NOTS ,..POUSSAINT SAID SOME FOUL CHIT ABOUT BLKS AND THE BLK MAN SYD IM SURPRISED YOU DIG THIS GUY?!!

  • Illuminate Truth “Truth is Authority…..Authority is not Truth”

    “How long do we wait? When are you going to wake up? We can’t keep blaming people and expecting people to fix it. This has to stop.”

    Co-signing. We look for help from the very people we blame. This is counter productive by definition. Our failure or success hinges on our ability to reclaim personal accountability leading to a true family structure which would subsequently build a productive community….a self sufficient community.

    All of our journeys have to begin from within.

  • http://logicvigilante.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kanyewestentourage1.jpg Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    Unfortunately, I have witnessed the same thing in my volunteer work. There are usually one (just myself) or two folks of color volunteering, YET most of the people in need that we help have brown skin. It’s disconcerting, to say the least.
    ______________________________________________

    @Butterscotch™

    Sis, I KNOW!!!

    I do stuff and have done things in other states (*on my OWN dime) and see the same thing regardless and it’s VERY sad & pathetic… It’s NOT a good look AT ALL from either vantage point = the people that we’re helping and/or the other volunteers – it doesn’t look right and makes no sense…

    In the least if anything, people can make sure that their OWN children and immediate family members’ children are on point = doing well in school and staying out of trouble… ANYTHING, so that they won’t be ANOTHER negative statistic or some degenerate out there trying to rob or do harm to others…

  • That’s What Time It Is

    I agree with the poster who said that if you want to know where Black people are headed, look at the Native Americans. At our current rate, we’re sadly gaining momentum towards extinction.

    In the U.S. a century from now, Hispanics will be the new white people. Whites will be the new Black. Asians will still be the model minority. Blacks will be the new Native indians, and the Natives will be totally extinct.

    Mark my words.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @B3 Fearless

    Hey there! What I am saying is that there are things going on behind the scenes with our the system on a bureaucratic level that hinders the progression of some people. There is a mindset that is promoted through government programs that promotes the backward spiral and mentality of less fortunate blacks (and other poor races). You can’t necessarily blame some of the people who are exposed to this. There are good, nice, and wholesome people who are products of these types of programs who truly don’t get the insitutionalized racism that is being promoted. I think that if certain lifestyles and activities weren’t ‘rewarded’ there wouldn’t be a blind and shiftless following…at the end of the day it’s all about MONEY, and who profits off what, no matter how damaging…that’s all I’m saying…

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    DEAD PREZ!
    THANKS, YEAH I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE PUPPETEER ZBIGNEW TOLD YOUR PPL ABOUT HIM AND HIS PET OBAMA IONS AGO!

    BE REAL NUMERO! LOOK YOU CANT TRUST NONE OF THSE FOLKS ..O YOU WOULDA SEEN THEY AZZ ALL THE TIME NOT WIN YOU SEE A CHANCE TO SELL YOU SELF OR BOOKS, PHUK THAT KINDA BLK LOVE WE DONT NEED THAT WE OVERDOSED ALREADY ON IT!

  • KENNEDY

    Jody

    You sound stupid. Those are all valid cases but and certainly not the norm. Last time I checked 70% Of black babies are born out of wedlock. Do you know what that means? I know what it doesn’t mean. It doesn’t mean that ALL these women aren’t marriage material, it means that BM are allergic to responsibility. FACT. So you can move around with this “I hate the Black woman b/c I’m a lozer” rant that you’re on. 70% black babies born out of wedlock and we’re destroying the community? B1tch please. There’s a 70% chance that BM Will NOT own their responsibilities. Remember there’s not a lack of quality mothers in our community. The issues we face are a direct result of BM easily abandoning their responsibility. There’s a lack of fathers. Period.

  • Sydney™

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “I can actually see you and Sydney giving a speech to the community. Real talk.”

    A while ago, I participated in a group discussion with young girls about self-esteem, and I really enjoyed it. I’ve thought a number of times about starting an organization for girls/women. I would also like to see another national event/movement for sisters, along the lines of the Million Women’s March that I attended back in the 90′s. I think we have our own crisis to address as well.

    @Glok

    “POUSSAINT SAID SOME FOUL CHIT ABOUT BLKS AND THE BLK MAN SYD IM SURPRISED YOU DIG THIS GUY?!!”

    What did he say that was offensive? I saw him and Cosby on “Meet the Press” a few years ago when their book first came out, and I thought it was a very productive discussion.

    Hey Ill, B3 :)

  • B3 Fearless

    ;

  • AnonymousGal

    @Kennedy, there is a new study saying that women are all races are opting to have children outside of wedlock. It’s funny how some BM want to use stats against BW, forgetting their own high statistics that do not look great in their favor. It’s pitiful.

  • getting down

    B3 Fearless

    7/6/10, 13:55:pm

    @getting down

    I don’t know…I personally got into volunteering when I was in college. I went to a Jesuit institution so they heavily promoted and encouraged volunteering and studying abroad.

    *********************************

    I just always had this drive in me to help others freely…..I truly believe if GOD has blessed you, you should give back in return.

  • michelle

    Bill keeps it 100 !!

  • Coop

    Shut up Bill “Uncle Ruckus” Cosby.

  • AnonymousGal

    Does anyone ever hear Latinos saying, “We better clean up our neighborhoods because the illegals are giving us a bad name.” Do you ever hear white people say, “Wow, white men are more likely to be serial killers than anyone else. We better clean up our community.” No because what black people fail to understand is that these issues are human issues.

    Did anyone see the white girl on Dr. Phil that had three different children by three different men?

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @That’s What Time It Is

    The excuses never stop, don’t they? It actually makes sense to some folks to settle for Black disfunction and mediocrity while we wait for the end of intitutionalized racism.
    __________________________________________________

    Co-sign 100%. That’s the problem we’ll wait for racism to stop, and we’ll wait forever.

    @Glok

    LOOK YOU CANT TRUST NONE OF THSE FOLKS ..O YOU WOULDA SEEN THEY AZZ ALL THE TIME NOT WIN YOU SEE A CHANCE TO SELL YOU SELF OR BOOKS, PHUK THAT KINDA BLK LOVE WE DONT NEED THAT WE OVERDOSED ALREADY ON IT!
    _______________________________________________

    I’m talking average black people getting out and trying to make a difference. Like I say, black folks talk a good game about the community changing, but don’t get out and do anything. I’m talking about people who are fortunate enough to do something.

    @Ill

    We look for help from the very people we blame. This is counter productive by definition. Our failure or success hinges on our ability to reclaim personal accountability leading to a true family structure which would subsequently build a productive community….a self sufficient community.

    All of our journeys have to begin from within.
    _______________________________________________

    Thank you!!! That’s what I’m saying. Co-sign 100% and well-said.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @AnonymousGal

    Do you ever hear or see other races air THEIR dirty laundry? Do you not think they have dirty laundry? They don’t do it! Only black people do this.

    ~~~

    This ^^^^ is the point I’ve been trying to drive home…

  • getting down

    AnonymousGal

    7/6/10, 14:16:pm

    It’s funny how some BM want to use stats against BW, forgetting their own high statistics that do not look great in their favor. It’s pitiful.

    **********************************

    YES….And it’s funny that MOSTLY black men are the only race of men who want children who DO NOT LOOK LIKE THEM by having babies with other races of women!

  • RIckB

    Dam, Bill is hard core. I’m glad I’m not in the picture.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    There will always be those that will stand up and defend or make excuses for their own self destructive behavior.

    And although greatly out numbered, there will always be those that will stand up for progress and achievement even in the very face of celebrated mediocrity and active ignorance.

    It is dangerous to accept our failures as our standard and to treat our achievers as traitors.

  • Miss U Much MJJ….Lovely1

    I don’t understand the idea of him airing our dirty laundry. In case you didn’t know our laundry is out there and it is stinking up our communities. YOU CAN’T MISS IT.
    If you think Bill is elitest then fine but that man is telling the truth. If he was out there openly doing things for the community you guys would say he is doing it for publicity. He does things quietly and people say he doesn’t do anything. HE CAN”T WIN!
    I agree with what others have said. What have YOU done!

  • AnonymousGal

    getting down
    7/6/10, 14:23:pm
    AnonymousGal

    7/6/10, 14:16:pm

    It’s funny how some BM want to use stats against BW, forgetting their own high statistics that do not look great in their favor. It’s pitiful.

    **********************************

    YES….And it’s funny that MOSTLY black men are the only race of men who want children who DO NOT LOOK LIKE THEM by having babies with other races of women!
    ~~~~~~~
    Ain’t THAT the truth!

  • Caramel Cat™

    Mon Dieu!

  • haydendrake

    Success should be the expectation, not the exception.

  • Butterscotch™

    @Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    “I do stuff and have done things in other states (*on my OWN dime) and see the same thing regardless and it’s VERY sad & pathetic… It’s NOT a good look AT ALL from either vantage point = the people that we’re helping and/or the other volunteers – it doesn’t look right and makes no sense…”

    ________________________________

    YES! And I hear those on here that say whites have had more opporunities and, as a result, are able to volunteer more. I understand that from a proportional standpoint. BUT, there could be more of us that give our time to those less fortunate. I know of people at my job and in my church whom I’ve invited to do volunteer work with me who just don’t. These are single people who have no kids and whose parents that are in good health and don’t require their assistance. I understand the need to chill and enjoy yourself, but I wish more people felt compelled to give a little of their time to those in need. Even if it’s just an hour every once in a while to speak to children at a local school. You’d be surprised how so little can mean so much to someone who really needs it.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Syd

    I’ve enjoyed talking with girls too. They all just glow when they’re in a positive environment.

    I’ve thought a number of times about starting an organization for girls/women.
    _________________________________________

    You should start one girl. You’d be a great leader and positive influence on young girls. And I think another Million Women and Men March would be great.

  • AnonymousGal

    @Dr. Drake – that’s all we ever do is talk about our failures! Don’t you get it? You are supposedly an educated man. Think! No other race goes publically about anything THEY DO. Don’t you get it? Are you insinuating that blacks are the only people on the planet doing negative things? Why doesn’t anyone ever call out the good? Do you know think it exists?

    I am so tired of the negativity, and then we get mad when the white media uses it against us.

  • getting down

    AnonymousGal

    7/6/10, 14:21:pm

    Does anyone ever hear Latinos saying, “We better clean up our neighborhoods because the illegals are giving us a bad name.” Do you ever hear white people say, “Wow, white men are more likely to be serial killers than anyone else. We better clean up our community.” No because what black people fail to understand is that these issues are human issues.

    *******************************

    Girl Preach!!!!!!!!! Black people ALWAYS want to put their own down in public in hopes of appeasing the white man.

    We all know other races have the same issues or worse as you just pointed out, but you don’t see them putting down THEIR OWN RACE!

    Some people say that blacks don’t want their dirty laundry aired out. But it’s not about that…..It’s about not feeding into the negative stereotype that the media has placed upon black ppl……You don’t see white people “airing out” their serial killers within their race…..You don’t see P.R putting down their race when it comes to illegals……As you said, IT’S A HUMAN ISSUE!

  • getting down

    AnonymousGal

    7/6/10, 14:28:pm

    @Dr. Drake – that’s all we ever do is talk about our failures! Don’t you get it? You are supposedly an educated man. Think! No other race goes publically about anything THEY DO. Don’t you get it? Are you insinuating that blacks are the only people on the planet doing negative things? Why doesn’t anyone ever call out the good? Do you know think it exists?

    I am so tired of the negativity, and then we get mad when the white media uses it against us.

    *************************************

    Girl I am so with you 1000% and you are correct.

  • Sydney™

    LMAO @ Caramel

    Stop it, girl, you’re making my sides hurt. Mon Dieu, indeed! What’s going on here??

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    BE REAL #UNO
    I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I DO SEE THOSE FORTUNATE AND THOSE WHO JUST GETTING BY DOING IT..NOT COMPLAINING BUT DOING REAL CHIT FOR THE COMMUNITY! I NEVER SEEN COSBY IN NOBODY COMMUNITY EXCEPT GATED ONES!

  • AnonymousGal

    Miss U Much MJJ….Lovely1
    7/6/10, 14:25:pm
    I don’t understand the idea of him airing our dirty laundry. In case you didn’t know our laundry is out there and it is stinking up our communities. YOU CAN’T MISS IT.
    If you think Bill is elitest then fine but that man is telling the truth. If he was out there openly doing things for the community you guys would say he is doing it for publicity. He does things quietly and people say he doesn’t do anything. HE CAN”T WIN!
    I agree with what others have said. What have YOU done!

  • Cornbread, Earl, and Me

    Bill never mentioned any particular race. This audience was probably predominately black but his advice was to parents and child rearing of any race.

  • Keep it Real

    @Kenyetta

    I totally agree except I think that American black people will be extinct b/c we are in such a hurry to give away our best physical *****ets to other races. What will the bm do when he has given his God given gift of ***** size to other races and he no longer holds the monopoly on large *****! We are already seeing an example of that with the bw and azz size. Bm had better wake up and start thinking with the other head b4 the U.S. is full of half black men who consider themselves white or Latino are walking around with all of the money, women and YOUR *****s!!!
    _______________________

    Dead That is some funny shyt.

  • STOLEN FROM AFRICA

    Damn!! You know you F’d UP!!
    When the PUDDIN MAN – has to straighten you out!!

    We are in a serious decline -

    We were sent – GARVEY, MALCOLM and KING to set us straight!! You all know what happened!!

    Now we down to the PUDDIN MAN!!

    Who’s NEXT?? Its the FINAL CALL!!

  • WTF

    @Baybaybay: Cosby normally speaks on personal responsibility and accountability. You can have all the programs and money under the world but nothing truly gets fixed until people take charge of their own lives and actions.

  • Caramel Cat™

    And again, the answer to fixing institutionalized racism is not just ‘doing nothing’ and waiting…that’s not it at all…but how on earth can you expect a certain group of people to ‘get it’ when this type of azz backwards culture is rewarded, glorified, and anything besides it is stifled by politicians looking to keep receiving back door funds? That’s why I said that Bill should be championing for a change on a grand scale. Yes, preaching and helping on a micro level definitely HELPS, but it’s like spinning your wheels if there’s no budging outside of that. It can be compared constantly wiping up a puddle underneath the leak, but letting the leak remain…

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Ill

    Our condition is a direct result of what happens when a peoples culture is exterminated and replaced with a foreign one. We are not living in our right minds and most (even the “do-gooders”) don’t realize it. EVERY race and nationality has their culture, history and identity in tact. We have done nothing to reclaim ours and instead have tried to socially adapt to a culture that is not ours. The foundation of any culture is firmly engulfed in the home….the family unit. Our families were broken by design and that is THEIR fault. We know this and do nothing about it and that is OUR fault.
    _________________________________

    Very well said again! Thank you, brother. You are definitely missed on here.

    @Dr. Drake

    LOL! Someone called you out yesterday as Kreole King and you posted under some other alias saying, I wish Dr. Drake would return, and now you show up?

    SMH… Yeah, OK.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    @AnonymousGal

    I think that it is important that we start praising and encouraging success in our community and schools. We should be celebrating these young men and women who against the odds or not, achieve and contribute to society in positive and productive ways.

    I think if we can once again create a worthy value system around achievement, we can change the statistics for the better.

    It is not enough to attack negative behavior we have to reward positive behavior.

    Its not an over night solution, nor is it one that can be done by a few, we have to embrace it in large numbers.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    WELL GOT DAMN, SPEAK OF THE DEVIL ,..DR. DRAKE YOU JUST KEEP POPPING UP HUH,… TO AND FRO?

  • Butterscotch™

    @Syd and Caramel

    Well, well, well (LOL) I guess my eyes are not deceiving me. (LMAO)

  • Caramel Cat™

    @Syd

    I think I see a ghost in the room!

  • Keep it Real

    @Dr. Hayden Drake

    There will always be those that will stand up and defend or make excuses for their own self destructive behavior.

    And although greatly out numbered, there will always be those that will stand up for progress and achievement even in the very face of celebrated mediocrity and active ignorance.

    It is dangerous to accept our failures as our standard and to treat our achievers as traitors
    _________________________

    How did it come to this? I don’t think it was like this before the Civil Rights Movement was hijacked by the Progressive Rights Movement lead by a bunch of black self promoters who’s only goal it appears was self preservation ie I am the leader of the blacks. Jesse did anyone say Jesse Lewis……

  • othello

    Always agree with Bill.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Glok

    You could see fortunate blacks doing somethings. But, I ask people who have no children, make a nice salary to come and volunteer, and they just don’t. These same people talk about the problems in the community, but never have time to volunteer.

    I’m not saying you don’t contribute positively to the community. I think you do, and I think you really love all black people, men and women.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    DELORES TUCKER WAS A MOTHA PHUKKA,..BILL JUST CARRYING HER TORCH,..AND SHE WAS A THOMASINA!

  • Fly on the Wall

    @Anonymous Gal-I agree with everything you said, However I am speaking from my experience growing up in my community.You can not deny that these issues don’t exist- no matter how much we have progressed and we don’t want to bring up the negative.So what should we do about the young mothers on welfare who keep having multiple children?The young males on the corner? Not address the issues at all because we don’t want to air out are dirty laundry??Please help me understand.

  • Sydney™

    LOL @ Butterscotch

    @Caramel

    “I think I see a ghost in the room!”

    Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!

  • B3 Fearless

    Hey Syd!!!

    My bad…sometimes I get on these posts and I get in such a hurry too post after reading other’s comments and I get so caught up I forget to practice the proper etiquette.

    @Caramel Cat

    Ok I understand that would feed into the example Syd just posted about the professional “baby mama.”

  • Jamaica

    Anonymous Gal: “Like I said, I wish black people weren’t so myopic in their views and traveled and moved about the world.”

    I agree with that. I mentioned that in my first comment.

    Anyone can make statements about what should and should not be done. If you are not offering up any SOLUTIONS and OPTIONS, then you are not helping. It takes more than just donating money to your favorite charities or “your favorite colleges”.

  • SOMMER

    All I can say is Bill is right. We have got to stop thinking someone else is going to solve our problems. Its sad because we are burying our young at a fast pace. If you ask them why are they so angry they do not know. Maybe if they knew their past they would not be taken things for granted. If they knew what their parents had to go through maybe just maybe they would appreciate the struggle. Right now they just think their deserve it. Not true they did not earn it through any struggle, we did.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Butterscotch

    YES, Yes, YES! Keep saying that. This is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. This is the mindset and the respective actions that makes a difference in people’s lives. Thanks for sharing your story!

    _____________________________________

    It only took about 15 minutes to converse with the young lady. Nothing is stopping more black people from doing this, or just volunteering once a month. No problem!

  • Joy

    Kennedy and Krisina, I agree with you. And can’t we all agree there’s a need to raise the standards within our own homes and within our communities? Slinging arrows at the messenger doesn’t change the facts. Our young black men and women have developed some extremely self-destructive patterns. Let’s all make the necessary adjustments. And yes, I personally give back by mentoring young men and women in urban areas. As a black single parent I also work hard to instill the right values in my child. But it’s a constant battle because there are so many destructive forces out here, and such a lack of self-respect and respect for others. And Glok I seriously hope you haven’t subjected your surrounding community with any mini-Gloks – one of the likes of you is more than enough – in my opinion.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @B3 Fearless

    That’s exactly what I mean. I honestly have relatives who don’t understand how on earth I don’t receive food stamps or subsidized housing. They even think of ways that I can get it, like asking me if I make above a certain amount of money and if not I’m ‘in there’….I can’t do anything but shake my head in disgust. My half-sister sits on the phone hoping and praying for a 3-bedroom voucher for her and her unemployed boyfriend and her three kids by different daddies. My cousin acts like I’m speaking greek when I tell her I’m going grocery shopping and need to make sure I have enough in my checking account to cover it…there is a comfortable way of life that many people embrace as normal and they aren’t bad people, they are just clueless to what they are allowing to happen in their lives…this then progresses to ignorant, ghetto behavior that stagnates us as a people…

  • Eshay

    More of the same: Blame Blacks First for everything. Man, we need to listen to Angela Davis and Kathleen Cleaver, and stop adopting the white point of view of ourselve.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    @Keep it Real

    @Dr. Hayden Drake

    There will always be those that will stand up and defend or make excuses for their own self destructive behavior.

    And although greatly out numbered, there will always be those that will stand up for progress and achievement even in the very face of celebrated mediocrity and active ignorance.

    It is dangerous to accept our failures as our standard and to treat our achievers as traitors
    _________________________

    How did it come to this? I don’t think it was like this before the Civil Rights Movement was hijacked by the Progressive Rights Movement lead by a bunch of black self promoters who’s only goal it appears was self preservation ie I am the leader of the blacks. Jesse did anyone say Jesse Lewis……
    ———————————————–

    I think you already have part of the answer. Yes, anytime a movement becomes more focused on the individual and not the situation, the integrity is lost and with it the strength of the movement itself. I don’t know if any one can pin point any one particular thing that caused the our progress as a race to begin to turn in on itself but there are several culprits which include; Drugs, Reaganomics and the public commercialization and celebration of our own self destructive behaviors and attitudes and of course the Prison Industrial Complex.

    We are not necessarily to blame for where we are but will are responsible for lifting ourselves out.

  • getting down

    @ AnonymousGal

    Your welcome.

  • AnonymousGal

    Eshay
    7/6/10, 14:51:pm
    More of the same: Blame Blacks First for everything. Man, we need to listen to Angela Davis and Kathleen Cleaver, and stop adopting the white point of view of ourselve.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Eshay, unfortunately, a lot of these readers weren’t exposed to the likes of Angela Davis and Kathleen Cleavers of the world. They’ve amongst the brainwashed bunch who believe all other blacks are bad, but them.

    They fail to realize that, just like many of the ones here putting down other blacks, that there are blacks just like them – blacks that are not having babies out of wedlock; blacks that are buying homes, taking care of their families, living crime-free lives. They also fail to see that other races aren’t doing the best either. They make excuses like, “Why do we have to bring up other races when we talk about blacks.” The reason we do is because we need to see that the issues in our world are HUMAN issues and that no matter what color you are, there are louses in every race. But many blacks have been so continued to believe the WORST ABOUT THEMSELVES that they can’t see realistically or THEY DON’T WANT TO SEE.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    *Typo*

    We are not necessarily to blame for where we are but we are responsible for lifting ourselves out.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Syd

    I’m paraphrasing what I said.

    I saw her walking with two friends (I as*ume that’s who they were), and she looked sad or upset about something. I just told her whatever she was going through, she would come out on top. She looked up at me, and I told her she was a pretty young lady, whatever was bothering her, the situation could be fixed. She just broke down and cried, and I didn’t pressure her to talk. I consoled her some, and gave her a card for a non-profit organization.

    Turns out, she was depressed because she felt neglected, and not loved. She had very low self-esteem, but with the help of some positive women in her life, she’s doing good now. From what I hear.

    I didn’t even know this girl. I was just glad she was receptive to me.

  • AnonymousGal

    Does it every dawn on some of you guys why the media or the likes of Bill Cosby never talk about the brothers holding their families together. The strong brothers and sister doing the best for their children? Does it ever dawn on you that there are many blacks doing well. Are you not doing well? If you are, there are more like you. Quit hating your own race.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    LOOK JOY STEREOTYOING M WONT CHANGE A THING ..WHY FUSS WITH ME WHEN I WANT THE BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILD ,..I COMMEND BLK WOMN FO TRYING TO RAISE YOUNG BLK MN TODAY YOU DOING YOUR BST ,..BUT REMEMBER YOU CANT SHUT US OUT….THATZ SEED WAS SWIMMING IN MY BIG NUTS…AND IF THAT CHILD AINT MINE IM DOING ALL I CAN TO MENTOR STRONG BLK MEN AND BLK GIRLS,..WE FAMILY, SEE I KNOW THESE ARE CURSES AND THEY MUST COME TO PAST AND THE CHIT WE GOING THROUGH NOW WAS PREDICTED,…AND WE ARE GONNA GET IT RIGHT I PROMISE ALL YOU THAT!

  • Marquis de Sade

    Keep it Real

    “How did it come to this? I don’t think it was like this before the Civil Rights Movement was hijacked by the Progressive Rights Movement lead by a bunch of black self promoters who’s only goal it appears was self preservation ie I am the leader of the blacks. Jesse did anyone say Jesse Lewis……”

    …And there in lies the real culprit: THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT!

    I feel we would’ve been better off without it, or at least not allowed it as a tool of VALIDATION, cuz (ironically) in doin’ so, we lost our sense of COMMUNITY & SELF-RELIANCE.

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    @AnonymousGal

    Did you get my response to your question?

  • B3 Fearless

    @Caramel Cat

    I understand where you are coming from because I have similar family members who have made a career living off of the gov’t and yes with those type of circ-u-mstances it is a combination of the gov’t maintaining these programs without a set time limit and the users of a lot of these program’s lack of ambition.

  • Keep it Real

    Interesting conversation will have to finish another time. Later

  • Sydney™

    @Glok

    “SYD I WILL FIND OUT WHAT TICKED ME OFF WITH POUSSAINT SOMTHING HE SAID THAT SOUNDED LIKE HE WAS QUOTING THE WHITE MAN WORDS TO US ..”

    If you come across his quote, I’d be very interested in reading it.

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “I saw her walking with two friends (I as*ume that’s who they were), and she looked sad or upset about something. I just told her whatever she was going through, she would come out on top. She looked up at me, and I told her she was a pretty young lady, whatever was bothering her, the situation could be fixed. She just broke down and cried, and I didn’t pressure her to talk. I consoled her some, and gave her a card for a non-profit organization.”

    That’s a very moving story, girl, and I believe you were placed in a position to meet another sista in need.

    I agree that a number of us are in need of love, support, and understanding. You just never know how an act of kindness or some heartfelt words can affect someone. Many times, it’s just what someone needs to help him/her know that he/she is not alone in this world.

  • AnonymousGal

    Dr. Hayden Drake
    7/6/10, 15:02:pm
    @AnonymousGal

    Did you get my response to your question?
    ~~~~~~~~
    No, actually, I didn’t. I’ll scroll back up.

  • B3 Fearless

    Whoa!!! I’m late.

    Welcome back Dr. Drake!

    Long time no see.

  • Debbie

    Go Bill Cosby, go. People do need to hear what you have to say. It is a damn shame the way some of us act, and the way our children act. No it is not all of us but then there is a lot of us that are not raising our children. Bill Cosby has been air our dirty luanry for the last 10 years and the kids seem to have gotten worse. I still believe that the parents(both) should be reprimanded for the crimes that their choldren commit.

  • steve

    I agree 100% with Bill Cosby. I’m glad he’s not afraid to speak truth to power. No need in pretending that it’s not there b/c it is. If more people were willing to address these problems maybe our community would be in better shape.

  • B3 Fearless

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    That was great what you did! And more of us need to do things like that.

    It’s a shame because as much as ppl want to criticize our youth, so many refuse to take time to have a conversation with them or acknowledge the positive things that they do.

    They either talk down to them or do not address them at all.

    How do people expect them to have a voice if they are not being encouraged to have one?

    How do ppl expect for them to develop into positive, responsible adults if they aren’t being encouraged directly to do so whether by intermediate family, extended family, mentor, teacher, neighbor, etc.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @B3 Fearless

    Yes girl, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. There is a comfortable culture amongst our people where this type of thing is actually NORMAL. No self-accountability, no self-reliance, just dependance…

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    HEY SYD DOES COSBY AND POUSAINT HAVE YET ANOTHER BOOK COMING OUT?

  • bbb

    That’s right. Someone had to say it.

  • Adrienne

    @baybaybay

    Why should Bill Cosby have to invest his hard earned money into these communities? Please, that’s whats wrong with pple now, always expecting a hand out or something the easy way. No amount of money can help these neighborhoods, the community needs to change itself. What do you think rec centers were for? The boys and girls clubs? after school programs? To stop the violence in these communities. You see the success of that don’t you. Kids are no longer interested in stuff like that. These communities are infested, it’s a cycle that can only be broken from within. So you take your hard earned paychecks and attemp to make a change. Sad to say the only change that will come is when they move them out, build nice condos and move white folks in.

  • AnonymousGal

    JODY – look, unless you can have dialogue like a mature, normal adult and not call names, don’t address me again because you are officially ignored. You are the kind that can’t address the comments in an intelligent fashion, so you lower yourself and make yourself look like an azz, thus resorting to calling names.

  • Adrienne

    @ Toya
    Your level of ingonrance is disgusting. For real. So what if this man has a child out of wedlock, judging by what you’ve displayed in this thread you do too. Also, I’m almost sure he takes care of his children, if proven they are his. That’s not the problem though, you are missing the point boo.

  • AnonymousGal

    Jody, apparently you must be talking about your mother because you are clearly flucked up. You are like so many other black people who are stuck in a certain mindset. You don’t want to expand your visit, so you remain in neutral. Maybe if fathers stood up and took their rightful place, some of these kids wouldn’t be messed up. Do you have the brain cells to comprehend that?

  • JODY

    @AnonymousGal

    I DONT CARE

    you taking subliminal shots at me then try to take the high road?

    GTFO

  • B3 Fearless

    @AnonymousGal

    How do you suggest we address this issue amongst ourselves?

    Was that not what Bill was doing since he was addressing an audienec at the Essence Music Festival which is essentially an African American event?

    And your post suggests that the solution to the problems in our community that you listed is to do nothing?!?!

    I honestly don’t believe that is what you were trying to say but that is how it sounds.

    Please clarify.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    CUZ THE BLK ADULTS TODAY ARE SCARED OF THESE KIDS, AND ONLY WANNA DO SOMTHING WHEN ONE OF THEM KNOCK THEM UPSIDE THEY HEAD ,..THEN ITS TIME TO CHANGE THING IN THE HOOD,.. BUT AS LONG AS THEY DONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CHIT THESE KIDS GO THOUGH, THAT PEER PRESSURE CHIT THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE!

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @B3 Fearless

    You’re exactly right. All they hear is negativity, and are often reminded of their faults, but no affection or compliments are ever given in return. Like one brother said on here last weekend, we need positive reinforcement in the community, and a lot of people aren’t receiving this.

    We have to hold them accountable, and prepare them for manhood and womanhood cla*ses so they can be responsible adults. It does them no good when we don’t reprimand them, but only tell them some else is at fault. We can love on them, but we also have to give constructive criticism. We have to make sure there is a balance of both.

  • Sydney™

    @Glok

    “HEY SYD DOES COSBY AND POUSAINT HAVE YET ANOTHER BOOK COMING OUT?”

    I’m not sure, but I can certainly check and get back to you.

  • SoulSista

    Speak the truth Bill! Yesterday I saw a group of lil girls maybe 11 or 12 years old dancing in front of a corner store in bikinis & booty shorts. No parents anywhere. No music playing, just shaking their azz for attention. Dirty old men stopping, staring, and talking to them. I was disgusted. They looked like mini prostitutes, and they thought they looked cute. *sigh*

  • AnonymousGal

    B3 Fearless
    7/6/10, 15:23:pm
    @AnonymousGal

    How do you suggest we address this issue amongst ourselves?

    Was that not what Bill was doing since he was addressing an audienec at the Essence Music Festival which is essentially an African American event?

    And your post suggests that the solution to the problems in our community that you listed is to do nothing?!?!

    I honestly don’t believe that is what you were trying to say but that is how it sounds.

    Please clarify.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    @B3 – We do it in our homes and amongst our friends and those in the community. We set up forums. How about we hold BET/TV One accountableYes, Bill did discuss it at a predominately AA event, but trust and believe, blacks weren’t the only ones there, and rest assured, his sound bites will probably make the news.

    Of course I’m not saying we should do nothing; however, we can only be responsible for our own actions. We’ve been taking about the ills of the black community for decades. Again, what we see are also world problems, not necessary “black.” That’s the problem I see with so many black people. We don’t see the humanness of the social issues going around.

    I am BY NOT MEANS suggesting that we as a community have issues. I’d be blind to not acknowledge that, but what I’m saying is we take care of ourselves, our families and our communities. Black men need to learn to take their place and be the strong leaders of our community. Women have played that role for a long time. I suggest we teach our children right from wrong and raise them with values and morals (which is highly lacking amongst all people). That’s all we can do. Also, volunteer and make a difference in the life of that person or child you come in contact with.

  • rain

    If your not in the picture you can’t be framed,,,, TELL IT MR> COSBY

  • B3 Fearless

    @Glok

    Why so p-i-s-sy boo?!?!

    You sound like you feel like you’re being attacked.

    Calm down hon. We can agree to disagree.

  • mo

    I agree wholeheartedly with Bill. He is saying what we are all saying. The only difference is that he has the platform to do it. We need to reclaim our neighborhoods and our children. All black children, thank god don’t fall by the wayside, but in this day and age we should have 20 Obamas and 50 Oprahs. We have opportunities that we never had back in the day, but we succeeded and some of us excelled even with what little opportunity we had. So wake up and do something. Start by giving a young mother books to read to her babies. Get them started early. Forget the designer clothes and buy them books. It is a better gift.

  • Adrienne

    Oh and BTW, the Essence Festival was a hott ghetto mess and they won’t get my money EVER again.

  • JODY

    @AnonymousGal

    NO I HAD MY DADDY IN MY LIFE.

    AND IM IN COLLEGE

    and father cant take there place because he is in jail you the mother dont even no were he at

    Lets stop playing games when a child makes it in life and he or she is raised be a single parent she takes all the credit

    so why when the child fails cant she take all the blame?

    yall stay trying to blame men for somthing thats not even in there contral you have custody.

    nobody can contral who you have a baby with but you the female males dont contral that ish…….

    So when you lay down with a bad person and he is not there who you going to blame?

    females need accountablity if the men you were sleeping with in the first place was good blackmen you wont have this problem.

    but we know wat alot of black-females are doing they dont care until its to late thats why lil wayne has four baby mamas……

    Ansd now you have blackwomen who purposely dont wont any thing to do with the father purposely blocking them out of the picture….

    And you have the NREVE to blame blackmen for wat reason? for what? yall raise us yall doing this to us if you raise us without chosing good fathers for us what you expect?

    You expect us to come out being good fathers?

    you beating a dead horse…………….

  • Fly on the Wall

    @B3 Fearless…100% co sign..that was the point I was trying to make, you said it better..

  • ha ha

    I WISH HE SIT HIS OLD GRAY AZZ DOWN SOMEWHERE, HE STARTIN TO GET ON MY NERVES, WHITE MEDIA LOVES THIS AND USES HIM TO PIMP OUT THEIR IDEOLOGY

  • chocolate gold

    I mean, people pick up after their DOGS in white neighborhoods.

  • AnonymousGal

    mo
    7/6/10, 15:38:pm
    I agree wholeheartedly with Bill. He is saying what we are all saying. The only difference is that he has the platform to do it. We need to reclaim our neighborhoods and our children. All black children, thank god don’t fall by the wayside, but in this day and age we should have 20 Obamas and 50 Oprahs. We have opportunities that we never had back in the day, but we succeeded and some of us excelled even with what little opportunity we had. So wake up and do something. Start by giving a young mother books to read to her babies. Get them started early. Forget the designer clothes and buy them books. It is a better gift.
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    @Mo, please visit a website for black homeschools and you will get a different perspective. This is what I’m trying to get through to my hardheaded brethren. There are black children. How can you take two black (or one biracial) one black woman and say, “there should be more.” How do you know there aren’t more people like that in the making?

  • Bruh Rabbit

    “Apathy is strangling you to death,”

    THE BLACKS WHO HAVE THE EDUCATION OR FINANCIAL MEANS TO MAKE A CHANGE MOVED OUT ALONG TIME AGO. AND THE OTHER HALF IS TRYING TO FORGET THE “HOOD.” That’s why these neighborhoods are deteriorating…

  • Nativesmom

    forget the messenger..’DID YOU HEAR THE MESSAGE”?

  • JODY

    I dont get it

    WHEN A MEN MAKES A BAD DECISION HE OWNS UP TO It. SO wHY CANT wOMEN DO IT TO

    I DONT GET IT?

    I geuss someTHings Will never CHANGE!-2PAC

  • B3 Fearless

    @Anonymous Gal

    I agree with everything you said subsequent to paragraph 1.

    Let’s be honest cousin Pooky & Shaniqua are not the ones in their homes talking amongst their friends and going to forums discussing how to NOT be another statistic.

    And his sound bites didn’t make my local news or appear anywhere in mainstream media.

  • Sydney™

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “All they hear is negativity, and are often reminded of their faults, but no affection or compliments are ever given in return.”

    Good point. If it’s not too far-fetched to say, sometimes, I think the conversations on this site are a microcosm of what’s occurring in the community. We spend an inordinate amount of time criticizing and degrading one another, rather than expressing understanding and empathy for the factors that lead to certain conditions.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    B3 PLZ DONT TRY THAT CHIT WITH ME …CALM DOWN?

    IM NOT THE ON YOU TELL THAT TOO!

  • Well

    It amazes me how many people say Cosby is “airing our dirty laundry” like it some sort of secret. Everyone who has two eyes and a bit of comprehension already knows we as a race are in dire need of divine intervention.

  • Caramel Cat™

    @Well

    Everyone who has two eyes and a bit of comprehension already knows we as a race are in dire need of divine intervention.

    ~~~

    And trust me, other races, especially the white race, will find a way to incorporate this very statement into their general psyche, so they can feed their continued ideology of white supremacy…smh…

  • Shay_OH

    @ Marquis de Sade

    “Jesse did anyone say Jesse Lewis……”

    Who is Jesse Lewis, please?

  • AnonymousGal

    Well
    7/6/10, 15:55:pm
    It amazes me how many people say Cosby is “airing our dirty laundry” like it some sort of secret. Everyone who has two eyes and a bit of comprehension already knows we as a race are in dire need of divine intervention.
    ~~~~~~~
    I agree, so then common sense would say quit talking about it, right?

    At Well, again, you like so many other who only see the worst in our race…I have no words. There are some people who seek knowledge, and there are some who remain ignorant.

    I’m out because trying to get through to myopic thinking black people is impossible. Like I said, Harriet Tubman had the same problem hundreds of years ago trying to get Negros to think differently. If anything, I can say, that in that case, we haven’t come far.

    Peace!

  • AnonymousGal

    Caramel Cat™
    7/6/10, 15:58:pm
    @Well

    Everyone who has two eyes and a bit of comprehension already knows we as a race are in dire need of divine intervention.

    ~~~

    And trust me, other races, especially the white race, will find a way to incorporate this very statement into their general psyche, so they can feed their continued ideology of white supremacy…smh…
    ~~~~~~~~
    THANK YOU, CARAMEL CAT!!! They already use Bill Cosby’s previous statements again us, but then I guess the white racists would be cosigned too, huh?

  • Well

    Yes, we do need balance when it comes to disucussing our race. Yes, speak about the goodness and love and success that our race is a part of, but we have way too many images and mindesets that uplift negativity like it’s okay. It’s okay to have a child when you’re a child; it’s okay to hate your neighbor; it’s okay to be materialistic; it’s okay to have no values and not be held accountable because no one can “judge” you; it’s okay father and mother multiple children with multiple partners and not take care of them properly.

    I’m glad Cosby spoke about this. Nobody can deny that within the last year, we hear about and witness more hate within our community. Most importantly, it’s self-hate.

    I believe that if people learned they are not an island and we affect each other, then I think we would be a lot better off.

  • AnonymousGal

    @B3, well I guess there is nothing we can do about those who don’t want to change. We can’t control someone else’s behavior. People have free will, so (shrugging shoulders) what can we do?

    I’m out! Take care now. It’s been nice :-)

  • http://logicvigilante.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kanyewestentourage1.jpg Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    Oh and BTW, the Essence Festival was a hott ghetto mess and they won’t get my money EVER again.
    ____________________________________________

    @Adrienne

    OH NOOO!!!

    What happened, please tell us more???

    The hoodrats & knuckleheads are usually in low attendance to this…

  • B3 Fearless

    @Mesha

    Because there isn’t going to be another one

    But why should there be?

    I don’t think our ancestors during the Movement ever thought that we would lose our sense of community or forget our history which were the two things that always encouraged and inspired us to do great things and aspire to do even more great things using education as our vehicle.

    A community is made up of individuals. If we all do our part as individuals to push ourselves and encourage others to be positive, productive individuals.

    Lack of community +

    lack of knowledge of history +

    the brainwashing of some to believe that they have no choices

    = the negative state of our community

    We need to do our part as individuals to tip the scales of each of these factors for the better.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Syd

    I think the conversations on this site are a microcosm of what’s occurring in the community. We spend an inordinate amount of time criticizing and degrading one another, rather than expressing understanding and empathy for the factors that lead to certain conditions.
    ___________________________________

    It is a microcosm. Some of the people on here who offer solutions are the same exact ones who stereotype, and degrade either black men or black women. It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest. If some of these people on these blogs talk to other black people in the community the way they approach people on here (stereotypes, degradation), its no telling how they’re confronting people in the neighborhoods or at community centers.

    You can tell who truly loves their race on here, and who doesn’t.

  • Jamaica

    @ Jody – Apparently, I did not misinterpret your post. I understand and respect your opinion. I disagree.
    Both women and men need to be held accountable and take responsibility for their choices and actions. In order for this to be the one-sided issue that you are painting it out to be, women would have to be asexual creatures. We are not. I absolutely agree wih the fact that many women need to make better choices when it comes to men, love, sex, and relationships. However, men are not exempt. I cannot dismiss the role that men play…neither should you.

  • Caramel Cat™

    Bye AnonymousGal!

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    Often our people get caught in the cycle of complacency and complaining. This is a very inactive place to be.

    We scream about our victimization and oppression, with just cause, however I submit that we concentrate our efforts on solutions and progress.

    I think our victimization has been well documented and is widely accepted.
    Our challenge is not in convincing people that we are victims it is in once again encouraging ourselves towards recognizing and pursuing our greater potential.

    Our heroes became heroes when they decided to become active and black people have many great examples of men and women who have done this.

  • Lisa

    I agree with Bill, especially about Russell Simmons. Its a shame that people like Russell (including Diddy, Jay-Z, Magic Johnson, etc..) are uplifted in our community, when they are quietly ripping off and/or contributing to the destruction of our communities. We need to wake up to learn who is REALLY down with us.

  • B3 Fearless

    @Glok

    Oooo excuse me bro! Alright no chitty chat then.

    @Anonymous Gal (AG)

    No you can’t control some1 but you can still live your life as an example to them and like you did on here try to mention some places theycan go to get positive information about individuals or occurrences in our community.

    Bye AG

  • Shay_OH

    @ Glock

    Please forgive my ignorance – is “Jesse Lewis” another way to say “Jessie Jackson”?

  • Jackie

    Come on people…open your minds! He is not insulting lower income African Americans…he’s bringing light to our current plight! We are self destructing with violence, HIV/AIDS, drug usage, black on black crime, and food! Wake up and save our communities before it is too late!!!!

  • Sydney™

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “If some of these people on these blogs talk to other black people in the community the way they approach people on here (stereotypes, degradation), its no telling how they’re confronting people in the neighborhoods or at community centers.”

    I have a feeling some comments expressed on here are done so under the cloak of anonymity, or else they would risk bodily harm if they were to degrade individuals in such a fashion in person. The Internet is like “liquid courage” for some — they can write what they want, no matter how vile it is, with no consequences.

    “You can tell who truly loves their race on here, and who doesn’t.”

    Yes, you certainly can — and I agree wholeheartedly with your comments in another thread (I’m sure you know which one I’m referring to, lol).

  • Caramel Cat™

    @Well

    I hear you, but I get tired of having to defend certain ideologies whether it be in my workplace or wherever, when these ideologies are unfairly in place. I get that we have issues, like any other community. But, when you have prominent blacks who fraternize with elite groups of people co-signing these issues for the world it spreads a negative preconceived mindset about blacks, and this in turn can backfire in areas where it wasn’t even intended. This type of conversation will likely permeate over time into the mainstream and other races will feel justified in a.s.s.uming that our race is problematic. They already think this, so when one of our own co-signs it, that’s all the ammunition they need to continue on with look down on us. Just think of how over time this can affect our youth’s perception of themselves as they grow up as a black american. All I am saying is yes, there are issues that need to be addressed, but there are larger forces at work here and that can’t be ignored…

  • DontBeScurred

    Poor Bill Cosby. An educated Black man trying to convince nigggas to change their ways. It’s too late, Bill. Niggga culture has taken over Black culture. All conscious Black people can do is try to keep their own families in check. It’s too late for the Black community as a whole.

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    Where did Illuminate Truth go? If you’re reading, brother don’t disappear again. Please stay and post more often.

  • Traydayz

    How come anytime anyone starts criticizing everybody starts yelling put your money where your mouth is??? Why do we always need somebody to throw money to fix a solution when all you need to do is get involved in your kids lives???? Does not take a got dam dime to do that. I have gone to many a back to school night and you can count the parents on one hand who show up! The teacher was so haapy somebody showed an interest in their kids. My sons do not come and go as they please, my daughters do not dress as they please! All it takes is time not money!

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @Syd

    I have a feeling some comments expressed on here are done so under the cloak of anonymity, or else they would risk bodily harm if they were to degrade individuals in such a fashion in person. The Internet is like “liquid courage” for some — they can write what they want, no matter how vile it is, with no consequences.
    _________________________________

    I get the feeling they are some bonafide a*s holes on here. But you may be right about the comments written w/o an identity.

    LMAO! I understand you.

  • Lisa

    @Traydayz–I agree with you 100%. Like Bill said, the APATHY is KILLING US! I was recently involved in this ’cause’, and EVERYONE was down with it, UNTIL it came time for them to roll up their sleeves and actually DO something about it. And it’s sad. Money is not the answer to everything. Time, in a lot of instances, is way more important and valuable, than any amount of money.

  • Sydney™

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    “I get the feeling they are some bonafide a*s holes on here.”

    Oh, yes, definitely. They spread their sunshine every day, lol. It is their mission.

    I thought you would, LMAO. Go ‘head, girl.

  • Well

    @ Caramel Cat

    I agree, we need more positive images out there, especially for our youth. That said, we must address this fact that these negative images are out there because we allow them to be. There was a time when we had zero control of how we were portrayed, i.e, Birth of a Nation, but now we have billionare blacks who do nothing but show us in a negative light. BET for example. Now we have reality shows, news and personal experiences that reveal our need for extreme change in our communities. This is not to say other races don’t have similar or worse issues. I’m just speaking about mine.

    How will we know what needs to be fixed if we don’t confront the issues we are faces. Unfortunately, these confrontations expose ugly truths.

    I also agree with the fact that you said that there are other forces that are involved, but, we can only deal with what we can. Some things are simply out of our hands. Some things aren’t. We need to focus on things we can change and ultimately these things will have a great effect on those other forces.

  • JODY

    @Jamaica

    I never said blackmen were exempt.I said it begins with e blackfemale.

    I dont no why ppl take offence to this. ppl keep trying to act like its 50/50 and its not.

    I said it start with them because the family is centered arund the women and on top of that when it comes to chooseing LIfe pathers its largely in female favor.

    Its ALOT EASYER FOR A WOMEN TO GET A man then it is for a Man to get a women.

    They both have there part.are problem is a social one If you look at black ppl in the 40s and 50s the only thing that has changed is blackwomen thur feminism which WAS A ANIT-FAMILY MOVEMENT.

    2010 FAST FORWARD. AND NOW LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE!

    we both played a part but your was just bigger than mine.

  • Well

    @ P

    TRUTH!

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    *there are some*

    @Syd

    I agree. The brothers and sisters do spread their sunshine.

    LOL!

  • Shay_OH

    TY Glock – I appreciate the info.

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    P I FL YOU BUT IF JUST YOU GULA JOE SAID THIS YOU WOULDNT B SAYING THE SAME THINGS YOU SAYING NOW ,..HE PERV, AN ADULTIST COULD EDDI MURPHY HAD SIAD THIS WOULD YOU STILL GIVE LOV OR TALK ABOUT ALL TH GAY CHIT HE INTO AND HE NO GOOD ..HE A SELLOUT ,..HOMO ..IZ THE MESSAGE TH SAME IF HE DID IT? ,… NO …IM ONLY EXPRESSING THE SAME CHIT HE PUT OUT TO ME AND BLK YOUTH’S NEGATIVE CHIT, YOU WOULDNT LISTEN TO HIS MESSAGE IF HE WAS NOBODY ,..BUT IT SEEM YOU WORSHIP THESE PPL!

  • Well

    Please, somebody, anybody answer this…

    IS BILL COSBY LYING?

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    @Glok
    I know what your reservations about Bill Cosby are but we need to look beyond him and, break the message down….If you look at it brother – most of all our celebrated leaders were boule or freemasons: Fredrick Dougla$$,Booker T Washington, WEB Dubois,MLK,Benjamin Banneker etc etc but they all had their upsides despite the fact that they all sold out…

    We can say f*ck Bill Cosby but we really need to take our communities and, black consciousness back forreal…. These crackaz keeps destroying us because they know their is up but instead of striving to get solutions – we’re playing the blame game……

    If you look at it brother – what’s the difference between a CHRISTIAN/MUSLIM and AN OCCULTIC INDIVIDUAL??? There is no difference because they are all the same BS!!!

    Give the message a chance but F to the messenger!!!

  • Kenyetta

    @Well

    Please, somebody, anybody answer this…
    IS BILL COSBY LYING?

    NO!

  • Jamaica

    @ Jody – There is nothing in my comments about your opinion that suggests that I’m offended. I simply disagree. You have a right to your opinion and I respect it. I have a right to mine as well. No offense, no harm, and no hostility, just different views. It’s as simple as that for mature adults.

  • Maureen

    @Be Real Numero Uno: TRUTH!!!

  • http://logicvigilante.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/kanyewestentourage1.jpg Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators

    At end of the year, they OUTSCORED the WHOLE 6th grade cl***** of “regular” kids and then other teachers came running wanting to know what I did.

    You’d be surprised what basic things some kids don’t get, AT HOME.
    _____________________________________________

    @Mesha

    Beautiful, Thank You!!!!!!!

    And so, how did you do it???

  • P

    @GLOK……..

    I am not God, therefore I cannot judge anyone. If Eddie Murphy was up there and he was making valid points about our community then yes I would listen. Knowledge is power. I don’t care if he is practicing what he preaches cause that is on him come judgement day. He has to answer for all of that just like Cosby will, but if he was sending out a positive message to MY PEOPLE then you D.A.M.N. right im gonna give him my ear. I don’t listen or even care who is trying to help out the community as long as they are trying to help. Who gives a damn about who says what, its being said and that is all that should matter!!

    Like I said is anything that Bill said in his speech not the truth? Was anything he said False??? No!!!! You just don’t like who is saying it!!! Get over that BS!!! How can you help these kids if you can get past your own prejudices or biases? Riddle me that?!?!

    And BTW, I don’t worship Cosby, Oprah or any other earthly being and I don’t see how anything I said “seems like that!!” What I said made it clear that you “seem” intent on continually dividing the people instead of bringing them together!!!!

  • Kenny

    We’re too busy letting our kids look up to Rappers, Ballers, Drug Dealers instead of promoting school, good grades, a career that doesnt involve the above. The parents are the blame because everyone wants their kid to be a star.

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    Black people are just so far gone – and, it seems the more educated/indoctrinated people are the more redundant,rigid and ignorant they become…

    Black people need to start reading book that’s got something to say about them, mayne…

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @P

    I agree with the message Cosby was saying as well. But Glok is not self-hating, nor does he stereotype or degrade black men or women as a whole. You may not agree with him on this issue, but he isn’t a self-hating brother. He’s not like some of the other posters on this blog who have a self-hating mentality. If you read his comments, you would know he loves all black people.

  • Well

    @ P

    TRUTH AGAIN!

  • Kenny

    Also, parents are allowing their kids to emulate Beyonce/Rihanna/Gaga because the parents are… in regards to style of dress. These young girls dont see value in themselves, the black race is really falling off.

  • Somali Ninga

    Uncle Bill TOLD YA’LL!!!!

  • B3 Fearless

    @Glok

    I don’t even see you these days to even chat with you and the few times I do you’re arguing with some1 and I’ve moved on.

    O well. I’m not in a good mood today and clearly you aren’t either.

    Have a great evening all the same.

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    ****DELORES TUCKER WAS A MOTHA PHUKKA,..BILL JUST CARRYING HER TORCH,..AND SHE WAS A THOMASINA!****

    I almost forgot about this b!t.c.h – this b!t.c.h killed 2pac with her BS… F*ck Delores Tucker!!!Old and senile b!t.c.h!!

  • JODY

    @Jamaica

    OK then thtas fine.

    @ladies in this thread

    ALL im saying is next time before yall try to throw blackmen under the BUS…….

    i want yall to remmber my nI66a NAS keils only sent dat N166A a PICTURE OF his SON………AND NOW she got a new boyfriend aleady! so when that lil boy grow up and get into sum dumb ish who gonna get the blame?

    SMH.

    Im JUST saying……….

  • Kenyetta

    I also know many men that NEVER ever take the mother back to court to challenge the amount of child support he is paying and to ask for a reduction in the amount that he pays even when the poor guy has lost his job or is making far less money then he was making when the order went into effect.

    Once an order goes into effect it will not automatically adjust just b/c you lose your job. You must ask the court to take a look a your current situation and reduce the payments and the courts MUST answer your complaint. Even if you are unemployed your child support payments will continue to compound whether you are making payments are not in what is called “Arrears”! The courts can then demand that you pay all of the “Arrears” at once or be jailed. This is why it is important to let the courts know when there is a change in your employment status or income to ask that the order be modified in order to avoid Arrears!

  • P

    @Be-Real…..

    I have read and tried my best to understand where he is coming from. He may not be self-hating in the literal sense, but he is self-hating in the aspect that he is continuing to perpetuate negatvity when Cosby was saying what needed to be said! Hurt feelings be d.a.m.ned!!! It really puzzles me how someone who, as you say, loves black people so much can contiue to focus on the person and not the message!!!! that is my problem brother! It is that same type of lack of focus that is destroying us as a people!!!

    GLOK may love black folks……be he sure has a funny a.s.s. way of showing it!!! And he has the nerve to talk about Bill Cosby!!

  • Mock Rock Star

    Bill I’m riding with U. Black people no matter how hard it might be…we have to do better and look out for one another even if u end up being ridiculed for it

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    I’m out for the day. Have a great evening to everyone posting.

  • lala

    @Sydney
    Hi *waves*

  • B3 Fearless

    @Mesha

    Just read your post! Awesome!

    Are you still teaching? How involved were the parents of the students in your class?

    Did you get more parent involvement as the year went along?

    What were the ways in which your school tried to increase parent involvement?

    I could use some ideas to bring to our PTA in the next school year since it’s always a challenge.

  • Kenny

    @Well

    I agree!!! People are now scared to say anything because the word Hater would be brought up. We cant even give our opinions about something or someone without another black coming along and calling other haters because we dont agree. White people dont call each other haters, they are free to share opinions. Black people always act like someone is jealous of the next, instead of asking why a person feels the way they do. Oprah, Jay Z, Beyonce, Rihanna, etc are all bad influeneces and part of the reason why the black community looks ignorant… we all have to do better. We need to cut the tv off because they are feeding us who they think we are and we allow it.

  • Jamaica

    @ Well – Yes!! That has been the point of all of my comments on this post: Solutions and Holding EVERYONE Accountable for the part that they play in the success or destruction of our community.

  • B3 Fearless

    @Be Real Numero Uno

    Bye hon!

  • Sydney™

    Hey Lala!

    I’m out. Have a good one, all. I enjoyed the discussion. :)

  • Be Real Numero Uno

    @P

    I understand Cosby’s message and I think more black people need to stop waiting for institutionalized racism to cease, because that will never happen. No one is stopping us from contributing and being positive influences in our community. We all may not like the messenger, but his message is true. You’re right about the messenger and the message.

    I understand a different meaning of self-hate. That’s all I’m saying… I’m a woman, btw.

    Have a great evening P and everyone else.

  • Kenny

    Look at Tyler Perry. We think its cute that a grown man is dressing as a woman and acting ghetto, instead of questioning what is really going on.

  • Kenyetta

    Also….men STOP asking your ex “Go up there to the courts and tell them Yt folks I can’t pay this much no more”… she ain’t going to do it. YOU must do it but a phone call to the attorney for the state WILL NOT do it. You must file a supplemental petition for child support reduction with the courts b/c anything not in writing will be IGNORED! The legal system is all about black and white. Yes it can be a hassle but your children are worth the fight. If you are not willing to fight for your kids then man or woman you must do everything in your power not to have any.

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    ***Statistically speaking, we are the biggest consumers but we act like we don’t know how much power that holds.***

    That’s why we’ve a grocery shop on every street corner.. These people will never learn or purchase anything that has some to do with word BLACK… They are in love with anything the White world feel is right – yet, they call him the DEVIL… They just want to be “sophisticated.”

  • Dr. Hayden Drake

    5 musicians were sitting in room arguing over how to spell “MUSIC”, 4 of the men were illeterate.

    It didn’t matter that the literate man was correct because he was out numbered by the illiterate men who spoke loudly and were convinced that they were right.

    ??? ??? ???

  • Well

    @ Kenny

    Your comment is so true! Just like people think it’s cute to say “baby daddy” or “baby momma.” I can’t remember the last time I heard “my wife” or “my husband.” Just like people think it’s cute to be dumb and not read and wear baggy pants which represents the prison population. It’s a shame. I pray we learn soon.

  • http://SouthSideGirl SouthSideGirl

    @ P:

    I made a comment about 200 posts back that, in short, asked why Mr. Cosby has not addressed the problem of African American men with their adulterous ways disrupting, and in most cases, breaking up the black family.

    I don’t think Glok and myself included are saying Mr. Cosby is soooo perfect that he does not have the right to speak on the issues that affect our race.

    Just funny that he stays far, far away from that topic because it might be a bit hypocritical for him to bring up other’s indiscretions when he has skeletons in his OWN closet.

    A while back, Jesse Jackson was picked up on an open mike dissing Pres. Obama because Barack said Black Men need to step up and be more involved in their children’s lives. I think Jesse called him “uppity”. Remember?

    Jesse can’t speak on that either; how involved is he in his illegitmate daughter’s life out in L.A.?

    Who knows? But for a Black child to be born IN wedlock these says says nothing unless their parents are still happily married by the time that CHILD grows up, and, the example is set within that family to be faithful and committed to house, family, and home.

  • Kenny

    @Dr
    Thats deep. Very true in the black community, its also says something as to how loud we are and overbearing (ghetto)

  • Kenny

    @Well

    Lets talk about people writing and typing using slang. I dont understand it!!!

  • Tiphanie

    I always agrees with what he says in his speeches. However, I must admit that this has gotten to the point of being repetitive. Why is it that every time he makes a speech, he always has to bring up the negative? It’s as if he doesn’t find anything positive within the community at all. Okay, Mr. Cosby, we get the picture. We know our community is a far cry from being perfect. As my grandmother would say, you’ve beaten that horse about half to death. Now, can we please move on to something positive please?

  • She said it.

    Sorry…I got so heated…if being a sell out means that I have to do the opposite what being a success rather.

  • That’s What Time It Is

    chocolate gold

    “We just don’t seem to want to aim higher, we fought harder to get somewhere when we WERE NOT given those rights and now we have SOME rights, we have settled in a very complacent life style. The education we fought for has now fallen by the way side!”

    Complacency has certainly taken hold since the civil rights struggle.

    Civil rights: Marched for quality schools and education.
    After civil rights: We celebrate ignorance and clown our brightest as corny or acting white.

    Civil rights: Boycotted the buses because we had to sit in the back.
    After civil rights: Knucleheads get on the bus and head straight to the back so they can clown the driver or other p-a-s-s-engers.

    Civil rights: A girl who got pregnant out-of-wedlock was a source of family embarassment.
    After civil rights: Black children born in wedlock are unusual.

    The civil rights struggle gave us many good things, but now I’m not so sure if the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

  • Unkle Ruckus

    If you can’t feed em, don’t breed em. Then, you won’t find yourself in front of the judge, hat in hand, crying broke.

  • Jamaica

    @ Kenny – Let’s take it a step further and talk about the people that don’t write and type in slang, but they make some of the most unintelligent comments.

  • Well

    @ Kenny

    Unfortunately, it’s a symptom of our community. And by the way, I don’t understand it either. I need a translator most of the time.

  • Well

    @ Kenny,

    Don’t forget, it’s “cute” to sound ignorant. It’s amazing how many times I’ve heard, “we was” or “I seen.” It’s a sick, sad, shame.

  • Jamaica

    @ Tiphanie – Good point. Mr. Cosby won’t do that and the media wouldn’t report it even if he did flip the script for once. Negative generalizations of African people will always be preferred, promoted, and encouraged especially when it comes from one of our own. That’s validation for them.

  • Well

    Here we go again. If the shoe fits. If not, then let it slide. Not looking for any type of scholars, just sentences that use subject verb agreement. If it doesn’t apply to you, then keep it moving, there’s nothing to see here.

  • Well

    Bottom line, some people’s feelings were hurt by Bill Cosby’s statements because they hit home. Don’t get mad at him. Prove what he said is a lie. I can provide a million things that support his truth. It’s unfortunate.

    I think we need to move on. Acknowledge what he said was TRUE and do something about it. Bill CAN talk. He doesn’t live off of the government; he doesn’t have have a prison record; he takes care of his children; he promotes education and self-reliance. His transgressions have NOTHING to do with the FACTS.

  • Coop

    AnonymousGal
    7/6/10, 14:21:pm

    Does anyone ever hear Latinos saying, “We better clean up our neighborhoods because the illegals are giving us a bad name.” Do you ever hear white people say, “Wow, white men are more likely to be serial killers than anyone else. We better clean up our community.” No because what black people fail to understand is that these issues are human issues.

    Did anyone see the white girl on Dr. Phil that had three different children by three different men?

  • K….O…O…L…G..U…Y

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  • Just A Thought

    WOW!! EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES! When will it STOP!! SMH!

  • Kenyetta

    I can point out…lol…see queen of the damned I tell ya! lmao!!!

  • Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!

    WELL!
    YOU POP A LOT OF CHIT WHAT DO YOU DO FO YOUR PPL OR COMMUNITY AND DONT PHUKKING LIE EITHER????

  • diane

    @glok…you need to get your white instigating azz off of this site and head on to TMZ. Then hang a left at Perezhilton.com. Busted.

  • Mesha

    @ B3 Fearless

    7/6/10, 16:55:pm

    @Mesha

    Just read your post! Awesome!

    Are you still teaching? How involved were the parents of the students in your cl*****?

    Did you get more parent involvement as the year went along?

    What were the ways in which your school tried to increase parent involvement?

    I could use some ideas to bring to our PTA in the next school year since it’s always a challenge.
    ——–
    Only taught one year.Honestly, not very involved at ALL. Most of these kids were always in trouble, some escorted to and from the building by security, some were too old to be in the grade, etc. Only one kid had an involved parent (a single black father). And he was TOO hard on this girl.She was a good/smart kid, but he was so tough on her he was shredding her self-esteem and she started to act out (socially). Had a few talks with her and said a few things to the dad (not as a teacher,but from a daughter’s perspective). Not my place, but I would want someone to speak up for me if I were her.

    Nope, no increase in parent involvement.

    I don’t know what the school did other than a few “parent-teacher” nights. They pretty much sent those kids to my class (outside of the main building) and I kept them all day…for all subjects,lol. I was FRESH out of college and the teachers I went to for “help”, brushed me off. The district’s generic “expert” who made the rounds, was just so WRONNNG about SOO much, it was pathetic. She talked to them like they were morons, so their reactions were not good at ALL, but I wouldn’t let them show it. She didn’t even notice. But we (students and I) did DISCUSS it after wards. “You all are too intelligent for me to speak to you that way, so I don’t. I’m proud of you for not disrespecting her in any way, b/c….”

  • Doc

    Glok is a white guy stirring it up.
    No member of my race could be such an asshat!
    FAKE!

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    Y’all are going hard on glok!! I just need to lurk around and, enjoy what’s going on, ya dig..

  • BLACKHAWK

    I personally agree with Bill’s tough love tactic, because thats what worked for me growing up, it made me a better man. However I also see the need to promote the positives in our community. I never understood why the community that i grew up in threw block parties when someone came home from jail, but nothing for the kids that went off to college. Its like going to jail is a right of passage for the boys in some black communities. I’m not trying to put all the blame on black women when i say this, but as soon as these boys get out of jail all the girl flock to him, and damn near everytime atleast 2 or 3 girls get pregnant by him within a few months. I want to know the precentage of fatherless households that came from thugs, dope boys, men in prison.

  • ni99as are stupid

    Ni99as in here going in on Cosby, like they never done anything wrong in there life. Brothers on this forum that’s suppose to be israelites openly lust after other men’s women on this site, which is wickedness if you call yourself an israelite. saying that man sacrifice his kid is bearing false withness against that man, because you have no proof, which is also wicked. Cosby spoke the truth and he became y’all enemy because of it? this is crazy ni99as i tell ya always hating, even when there is nothing there to hate on.

  • TOP NOTCH DIVA

    Tell it Bill Cosby! It’s awful out here! All these young black guys killing each other & shooting… Jesus all I ask of u to protect me & my family from these evil folks!

  • AnonymousGal

    Look, black people hate themselves, and want to believe the worst about their own people. It’s not about “tough love” it’s about selling out to the white man. If the white man says it, it must be true.

    Some black people are unteachable. They don’t want to learn. They don’t even know about their own race or culture except by what the white man says.

  • kntmusiclover

    I was in the room and heard Mr. Cosby Speak. he was dead on.
    Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane : you sound kind of angry. Does Mr. Cosby’s words prick you spirit because you are not living up to a certain standard. behind words of angry is usually hurt and tears. Prayer helps. Raise your children to be adults who can contribute to society in a healthy way..not ones who take from society… If you are already doing it.. go help someone who isnt.

    peace

  • AnonymousGal

    Well
    7/6/10, 17:36:pm
    Bottom line, some people’s feelings were hurt by Bill Cosby’s statements because they hit home. Don’t get mad at him. Prove what he said is a lie. I can provide a million things that support his truth. It’s unfortunate.

    I think we need to move on. Acknowledge what he said was TRUE and do something about it. Bill CAN talk. He doesn’t live off of the government; he doesn’t have have a prison record; he takes care of his children; he promotes education and self-reliance. His transgressions have NOTHING to do with the FACTS.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    No, that’s your truth and the truth of the other brainwashed Negros who only want to see the worst. It’s not about hurting anyone’s feelings. He’s not God, just a pawn for the white man to spew his stereotypical rhetoric! No, that your and your ilks truth. If you read what others have said, you’d know that.

    Again, trying to talk to black people is like talking to an empty soul or a dead tree.

    How are most of the people going to help others if you think you are better than they?

    Anyway, many blacks are unteachable and are stuck on stupid. There’s not reasoning or common sense amongst many of our people, so yes, you probably can fine a lot of information to “back up” Bill’s “truth.”

  • AnonymousGal

    If Bill Cosby was any man, he’d be talking about racism and the affects it has on our country. I bet he won’t run tell that! Let him address that!

  • P

    @Glok……

    U kno I think we are on the same page as far as helping the community, but we are stuck on Cosby. As I said in the very first post I made, I don’t typically agree with him for much of the same reasons u don’t, but in this instance I think he said what needed to b said regardless of if u like him as a person or not! I feel that if his message is valid then spread the word! And the message was valid!

    @sunnyside bill won’t touch on that issue because he is not clean on tht issue! And I guess that sets a kind of double standard for
    some. Me personally, I kno we have all messed up at one time or another so if he doesn’t speak on that aspect of the community I understand some one else will! But what he did speak o. Was TRUTH! and that is wht I’m focused on! We could dig into all the pasts of great men and women and find skeletons buy that isn’t the point!

    @ Glok……
    We had a good lol debate which has f
    gotten the young people on the board wondering aloud hopefully. Have a good one evey one….@well, @número uno!!! I only generally speak on political
    stuff or something with meaning so until then again…..holla!!!!

  • http://mcclure.danielle@yahoo.com Chester Tha Kat! :D

    I agree Mr. Bill, and Hannibal shut your sell out homo tail up! How can you agree with Bill and turn around and say, “White is the new black.” You sound so ignorant. I can tell you are trash, because you think Coco and Lindsey Lohan are beautiful when they are so ugly and old looking in the face. lol Gorgeous white women look like Megan Fox and some white girls from Victoria Secret, dummy. Get a job or go to school and get off the meth, herion, crack, weed, and them other drugs you doing. I see why you like trash like Lindsey and Coco, because you all have something in common with it comes to getting high. lol :D

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    @AnonymousGal
    Preach it, sister!!

  • kntmusiclover

    im not sure why the word “prick” was censored.. but that is what the ***** is

  • http://mcclure.danielle@yahoo.com Chester Tha Kat!!! :D

    @Lala, you are right some black people are just ignorant, and Hannibal is a good example of some ignorant black people. lol :D

  • Rihanna’s Sharp n Pointy Witchy Fingernails Took The Oath while Trey Songz Changed His Name To Goat Boy

    sadly, he’s right. if you take offense, then that’s the truth slapping you in the face!

  • Elana

    BILL COSBY IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT THESE PARENTS THAT ARE RAISING THEIR CHILDREN IN THE GHETTOS OF AMERICA NEED TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY TO SEE THAT THEIR CHILDREN ARE PRODUCTIVE INDIVIDUALS IN SOCIETY. MANY OF THEM NEED TO RELOCATE TO BETTER NEIGHBORHOODS. MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CHILDREN ATTEND SCHOOL EVERYDAY;PARTICIPATE IN SCHOOL, AND DO THEIR HOMEWORK, WHEN THEY GET HOME. THEY NEED TO READ TO THEIR CHILDREN AT NIGHT, AND HELP THEM WITH THEIR HOMEWORK. THEY NEED TO STOP HAVING A BUNCH OF CHILDREN BEFORE MARRIAGE THAT THEY CAN’T TAKE CARE OF, AND STOP HAVING CHILDREN TO FILL UP THE WHITE MAN’S PRISONS. PARENTS NEED TO BE PARENTS INSTEAD OF THEIR CHILDREN FRIEND.

  • Well

    @anonymous gal

    You are a walking contridiction. One minute you say that what Bill says is stereotypical and the next you say ” many blacks are unteachable and are stuck ob stupid” you’ve proven your own point with that statement. I’m done.

  • Elana

    BILL COSBY HAS CONTRIBUTED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BLACK COLLEGES TO EDUCATE YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE.
    OUR CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE LOOKING UP TO RAPPERS WITH NO MORALS LIKE LIL WAYNE. BLACK MEN(YOUNG AND OLD) NEED TO BE EDUCATED. YOUNG BLACK COLLEGE MEN, AND OTHERS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN GAINING CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL BLACK PEOPLE. THE WHITE MAN DECIDED TO NEUTRALIZE OUR YOUNG BLACK MEN, AND PEOPLE WITH DRUGS, AND GANGSTA RAP MUSIC. BLACK MEN STOP HAVING CHILDREN, AND LEAVING THEM TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.BLACK MEN BECOME EDUCATED, AND EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. WAKE UP! STUDY OUR HISTORY. BOOKS ARE YOUR FRIEND.

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    @Elana
    Black men this, black men that – what about black women?? Blame the black man for everything, stupid… STFU if you ain’t got anything meaningful to say except that willie lynch BS…

  • Jay the Real One

    Bill Cosby can have a healthy serving of dez nutz

  • ????

    Not a huge fan of the messenger but what he said is true.

    @ That’s what time it is

    If I’m not mistaken 2Pac won his case on appeal.

  • Huckle Buck

    Sweep around your own front door, before you try to sweep around mine!

  • ????

    Correction: I’m not a huge fan of the messanger but the message is the truth.

  • White Women Rule

    Amazing! Here is a man who simply asks Blacks to be accountable for their actions and their children. To push their children to be better and more productive. But what does he get in return, nothing but gruff. True he’s made mistakes, who hasn’t? How many of you on here are encouraging any child to further his or her education? Darling after reading the majority of your posts, not many of you. You’re content with nothing and being nowhere and you pass this on to your children. How disturbing.

  • ProphetOnye

    Cosby speaks the truth. The black community in America and beyond need to start telling the truth to each other and the youth if things will change. “You can’t keep a dirty closet in the family’s home and expect an outsider to come in and clean it.” We always tend to avoid the truth. The truth is……the black family almost no longer exists. It’s getting murdered by the baby mama/baby daddy culture (kids out of wedlock), poor performance in schools, lack of investing within our own communities, promiscuity, down-low crisis, HIV/AIDS, black on black crime, too many issues to name-drop one by one. We need to start telling the truth and changing how we are and changing how we project ourselves to others.

  • White Women Rule

    @Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!
    7/6/10, 20:30:pm

    So when you say, “some b*tch…..” are you referring to all women as b*tches (i.e. mommy, daughter, sister, girlfriend and or wife?)

    Or are you one of those men who just get off using the word because it describes him so well?

    Do yourself a favor and at least pretend to be somewhat of a man born from a woman. And darling you scare me about as much as you scare yourself.

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    @Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!
    I feel where you’re coming from brah – all I’m saying is that we need to check his message not him.. F*ck Bill Cosby but the message is 90% right.

  • sandra

    I admire Bill Cosby, He produced television shows that showed class and intelligence without degrading women and using profanity, Some of these comments that are placed to try to belittle Mr. Cosby reminds me of what the teachers would tell the class clown, I GOT MINE IF YOU DONT GET YOURS YOU ARE ONLY HURTING YOURSELF! In the abundance of water the fool is thirsty.We are one of the most despised race on earth, until we get it together and stop acting a monkey fool we will stay on the bottom!

  • Red Girl

    Amen! Somebody needs to say it! The Black community is in a really sorry state! It’ll be a wonderful day when our young people aspire to be educated as supposed to rappers and sports players.

  • Kenyetta

    @ Realist and Glok…I swear you guys must be distant relatives b/c one minute you two are getting along just fine then the next thing you know you two are e-beefing! Lol!

  • Kenyetta

    Both of you make some good points at times but then suddenly you’re in left field!!! hahahaha!!!

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    @Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!
    Rotflmaooo!!! You’re an emotional b!t.c.h forreal forreal, yo… You’re always looking for ways to start up sh*t with me whiteboy – f*ck you and, your busted momma… I never dissed you today but you’re so caught up in your BS and, you think everyone is enemy – f*ck you b!t.c.h boy, I’ll whoop your old azz bald heading having self infront of your momma and, still get her on her kneels to su.ck this d!ck…

    F*ck you albany azz whiteboy!!

  • Black1st

    Bill Cosby is a JOKE!!!! I will NEVER take him seriously for good reason

  • Black1st

    Bill Cosby must of forget “hey, hey, hey” shyt from fat albert, LOL he’s the “PERFECT ROLE MODEL”. But ofcourse he had to do what he had to do to get in the position to short change black folks trauma living in this society.

    Some black folks will do a Cosby to get the fame and fortune, some won’t or never get the chance (success among blacks is regulated you know, it done with systems in place to kill the black spirit at an early age) and this is something that cosby don’t want to mention because it demeans his personal accomplishments.

    Cosby speaks volume and I respect that about him but he fails to bring the spotlight on the bigger picture, Why is that? is it because he’s not aware???? Not at all Bill is fully aware but but will NEVER ADMIT IT. Instead blame the victims.

    Honestly It’s easier to blame what appears to be the surface problem. Parents not raising their child correctly, Black on black violence but what about Black 1st Bill,How about advocating to school to teach Our story not His-Story, Instead of welfare checks how about a job placement program, a voucher for college? But I guess thats too deep huh Bill

  • ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt (DeDiCaTiNg Da ReSt Of My LiFe 2d BLaCk RaCe!! BLaCk PoWeR!!!)

    ***Typo***

    @Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!
    How many times am I gonna tell you I’m not theorius styles???

  • lily(bk’s finest)

    Bill Cosby has too many skeletons in his closet to be calling out anyone…..

  • Interlude

    I’m gone have to go on and agree with brother Cosby on this, right here. We have to recognize we are the problem sometimes. GROW UP PEOPLE!

  • BASE

    When Bill saw the lack of men at the grauation, He should have said to him self Im am going to adopt this shchool, to see how many black boys I can encourage to graduate next year. Most of the young boys who dont get their shool work completed are usually in the back of the class jokinging and clowning. Bill made of living off of joking. It would be nice of him to help them instead of talking about the class clowns.

  • The One

    I couldn’t agree with Mr. Cosby more. He is absolutely right!

  • White Women Rule

    @Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane !!
    7/6/10, 20:52:pm

    You truly are a waste of your fathers s.e.m.e.n. Perhaps you should read my name once more and then attempt a comeback. I’m quite sure you lack a high school diploma or anything that would hint at you’re being educated. What you are is an embarrassment to African Americans everywhere darling. So why don’t you hurry along and become the statistic you’re destined to be. I’ll make it easy dear, multiple choice:

    A) Absent baby daddy
    B) Drug dealer
    C) DL Brother
    D) Felon
    E) All of the above

    Darling if you think you’re anything other than trash, you’re sorely mistaken.

  • Baybaybay

    To all the people saying Bill Cosby shouldn’t do nothing to help blacks in the inner city because that’s a handout well you are part of the problem. Other nationalities help one another and its expected of them to do so:Asians come here from Asian countries: Japan,Korea and China they open businesses hire their own only and do business with their own only other races do the same but blacks are not suppose to? One of my side hustles is a Notary republic I Notarize documents for parolees who got felonies I help them prepare the court documents to get their cases expunged. I also volunteer at my church to help women on welfare transition to work by teaching them how to dress and conduct themselves in a corporate enviroment I’m not just telling them how bad they are I’m helping the ones that I can help get out just because I made it doesn’t mean I closed the door behind me. In closing all the people here saying there is a Black community, well there isn’t and hasn’t been since segregation ended, its a poor community where everyone in similiar economic status lives blacks, hispanics and everyone else in poverty.

  • Lily23

    Only thing I’m gonna say is…

    I agree with most of you all,but…
    I think the people that should be listening to Bill Cosby and reading yall’s comments are not on here…Many of them don’t have internet,better yet,they probably don’t have computers!

    Everybody on here should take a day trip out to the projects,bad neighborhoods,welfare offices,bad public schools,corner stores,abortion clinics,hood salons/nail shops,and take your comments with you and read them to the people you meet who you think fit the profile…

  • “Less Ignorance” Im so glad I serve a mighty GOD!!

    He’s is right, we are a dieing breed. Black women keep your head up! Some black men are so sorry and lame. They stay home and baby sit while their women, go to the truck stop and sell Puzzy. I thank God for my Good Roots, because the women in my family knew their worth!

  • lily(bk’s finest)

    LOL @ “notary republic”…….

  • http://Bossip.com Ms. Eva

    Much love and respect to our Elder and Brotha, Mr. Bill Cosby.
    I pray that the masses not only got the message, but left with a change of heart and strength to go with it. May God bless all who are righteously taking back the control of their families and letting each one know their role according to the Laws of Parenting.

  • super goon one

    @Everyone

    I understand GLOK’s concern, but I agree with the message. The point is

    WE HAVE TO DO BETTER!!

  • Agnes Rodriguez

    I agree with Bill 100%

  • super goon one

    @Lily love that comment. Will do after work on friday.

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  • bluekid

    I’m late on this post but, I’m with Bill Cosby all the way on this one, and I like what he had to say bout Russell Simmons. “Russell Simmons is as bright as a burnt out lightbulb. Tell him I said it!” LOL

  • bluekid

    Caramel Cat™

    7/6/10, 12:59:pm

    I agree with Bill’s words, but I think he is missing the point. There is a solid and bonafide REASON why there are so many problems within the black community and many of them are influenced by outside factors. Yes, there are many things that we can do collectively to help ourselves, I agree with that. But there are also many things that are in place institutionally, and it makes progression in many areas next to impossible. I would respect Bill alot more if I saw him actively involved in bettering our youth on a bureacratic level than just sitting back talking trash and letting everyone else know how broken we are…
    _________________________________________

    I would have said this, but I didn’t!

    I agree 100%

  • Mystyri

    MY NAME IS MYSTYRI AND I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE!

  • bluekid

    @ bishop

    I agree 100% with what you just said, and it’s sad that black people are waiting for white folks to fix what we have broke.

    We got to fix our selves and our own communities, I think integration, was one of the worst think that happen to us. The community hasn’t been the same since.

    Before the money in the community was put back in to the community, now people have moved out side of the community and the community is running down and know one cares, because they can simply move out with out the fix up, after tiring it down.

    there are so many black neighborhoods that are bleated!

  • blank

    FORGET THE MESSENGAR! DID U GET THE MESSEGE???

  • BEREAL

    thank you jesus!!!!!

    BUT IT TQAKESMORE THAN TALK.

    we need a black movement against white media- all white media stats are biased towards black

    tired of talk

    what is he doing for rights? is he an activist or another mofo with a big mouth.

    we need blacks of action!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • lt

    bill is right. enough is enough.

  • Geri

    As you can see from Glok’s comment above, somethings will never change. Doesn’t matter that there is a “black man” in the white house. Doesn’t matter about Rosa Parks, etc., It starts at home, and if you have parents that are low life’s, your kids will be too!! If education is NOT important in your household, guess what, prison is the other alternative for most blacks…Time to wake up and rise above, geesh.

  • Geri

    Glok, you are a perfect example of an African American without an education. You can’t even write or spell words properly…..it’s never too late to learn, you just have to want to….I sure hope you can read my comments

  • Lakeyshia

    @Baybaybay. I feel what your saying about helping others and its wonderful what your doing to help people on parole and on welfare but people like you and Bill Cosby need to go eat some jello pudding pops together and STFU! Uppity blacks who made it think there better than us in the hood. Baybaybay you are no better than those ghetto girls on welfare your mentoring forget teaching them job skills why don’t you give them money show them how you live if they never see progress they won’t know it exist.

  • Stop Hating!!

    It’s people like “Glok…Im in love wit Mary Jane” in denial. You may not like what he has to say but he hasn’t lied yet. He’s telling it like it is, trying to make people become aware of & fix the problems in the community before it’s to late. Maybe we can learn from what he is saying. Back in the 60′s the black community was much more of a unit. Why can’t we be like that today?? What changed that?? Did we prove the case to those that were in favor of segregation?? Lets face it, we were more together as a people, we cared for one another, we fought to receive the same privileges as whites at the time had. We worked hard, we weren’t on the corner yelling N***** this N***** that. They weren’t killing each other either. You don’t see any other race of people behaving the way SOME of the blacks act in this country. It’s truly very sad, we are a race that’s going to slowly self destruct. Stop spitting on the people that fought to give you the freedoms you have today.

  • Right On Bill

    Bills right, you have people from other countries coming here learning & feeling the same prejudice that has plagued us as a people for years & we are proving it to them each day by our actions & why they are right to think that way. It’s sad because not all blacks are like this, many of us appreciate what people did for our freedoms in the past. Many blacks focus on bettering themselves & the communities through education but you wouldn’t know it because all the bad out shadows the good. I’m not mad a Bill at all, the moment people in the black people focus on their children & neighborhood & use less of the N word. You’ll see the pride that the communities seem to lack.

  • Bossip is full of Hypocrites

    DAMN Glok!!!! White woman went hard on your ignorant a$$!!!!! As much as I don’t like the broad, even she got a point about your stupidity…LMAO!

  • White Rob

    Theo turned out alright.

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