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Yall folk is crazy out there…

The city of Brotherly Luv my azz!

Looks like Dirt McGirt’s cousin.

I’ve read enough, and refuse to watch the video. Crazy man!

Sad n Crazy!

Why are you all surprised? It’s Philly for Heaven’s sake! Philly is no better than Detroit. Both cities are the “Armpits of America”. This is why I don’t sit anywhere near you people…

filthy jamacain

On another site, it said that the reason why he did it was that this guy made sexual advances on his son and he went to look for him and in the video, you can see the father talking to his son and telling him to go sit down while he handle some business. I don’t know what to think anymore…two sides of the story….hmmm but he is nuts if it isn’t true!!!! I feel sorry for the boy.

he’s mentally ill … cut slack where it’s due

wow.

This a sad situation….doesnt matter if it happened in philly or any where else in the world, the truth is we have crazy people all over the world and this could have happened to any body on the train, walking down the street or in someone’s house or any where! What I dont understand is how he had his son with him and where’s the son’s mother, and how could she let her 5 year old be with his CRAZY father! My prayers go out to the young man who had to go through that whole ordeal with the attacker. And for those who were on the train (MEN) and didnt help, they are CHUMPS and I know if is was them, they would have wanted some one to help them!

STOP HATING ON PHILLY!!!!!!

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Yall folk is crazy out there

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LOL, I was thinking the same thing…Ms. Philly get ya boy!

I saw this on TV like 2 days ago, sad that nobody helded but who wants to be a victim too? I was thinking it must have been personal but I guess the dude is just crazy

L…

Yall folk is crazy out there…

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True babe…

I saw this on the news on Tuesday morning…they just kept showing the video…its disgusting. And why is the child in his possesion if he is a convicted rapist??

I could see if he did this when his child wasn’t present, but what type of sick person influences his child like this to commit crimes.

I was thinking it must have been personal but I guess the dude is just crazy

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They were saying the smae thing at my job! Because in the video it looked as though the lil boy said something to the man and they were conversating for a min, then he sat him down and wailed at him…but I’m glad they caught his crazy ass…word is his mamma turned him in.

Is it just me, or does dude look like David Banner?!? I’mjussayin’…

and thats why my black ass went a brought a car cause Septa transportation, although never the safest, I saw it getting worse and this is more proof here.

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I used to take Septa but I don’t anymore either…it seems like this stuff only happens on the sub though…not the trolley or the EL…they seem pretty safe for the most part.

@ Black-Thought: David Banner and ODB had a baby. A big, hammer-swingin baby.

Does his beard have anything to do with the Muslim religion or is that just a Philly thing?

@ Encyclopedia Brown

I’m muslim so I know what you’re talkin’ bout…but I do know alot of folks from DC that rock the same beard….I hope not.

First .. Elitist im sure no one wants to sit next to u either.

B.c it happended in Philly doesnt mean this one particular event is how everyone in the city acts … u fukin dummy.

Im not sure of the reason this man snapped but it clearly states he has mental issues, maybe something triggered him to react so violently. If u watch the video he is talkin to his son n even kisses him on the cheeck, the just turns around n beats on the guy .. its a shame regardless what city it happened in,

I don’t think that was radom, it appears he was looking for dude. It was to much hatred in that beat down for it to have been random, that was personal.

I’m sure the victim probably knows the lonatic that assaulted him. They must have had some beef. The goon needs to be locked up and taken off the streets for life. That 5 year old is going to need some counseling or he’ll grow up just like his good for nothing father.

Heard a similar type of story out of a Detroit suburb yesterday… a man on a bus was attacked and nearly beaten to death simply for requesting that a young guy allow an elderly woman to have his seat. Dude said hell naw and began the beating. Stories like these have led me back to driving my car 25 miles to work. I’d rather pay $16-$20 per day (gas and parking) and be in one piece over paying $3.50 per day and possibly getting my ass kicked for nothing! And whatever happened to ‘help thy neighbor’… I noticed that no one stepped up to help the victim.

If it was personal, why not leave the kid at home. When I first watched this, I was really shocked that he actually had his child with him.

Niccas….

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You can look at the shape of his head and the scraggly beard and tell this nicca is bonkers!

:-O

Nobody even yelled, DUCK, LOOK OUT DUDE GOT A HAMMER or OH SH#T.

Disturbing is correct…what was this nut doing outta the mental ward…and with his son at that

…let us pray!

Morning Y’all. I’m from Philly too and this was a sad situation. Not all of Philly is bad, of course-there are mentally ill people everywhere. But they KEEP showing the video and they should stop. Its SICKENING. The guy was TOTALLY insane and beat up that man for no reason other than his own paranoia. The sister of the guy with the hammer spoke to the media today: she said that the day it happened, dude thought that his phone was bugged, folks were following him, he was hearing voices…then when the videotape went public and they told him what he did, he didn’t even remember. Also, none of us can say what we would have done because we don’t know: public transportation here is full of addicts, drunks and insane folks who ride around looking for victims. Alot of times you’re ‘in shock’. Not only did the guy get beat with a hammer, but someone who saw the whole thing waited ’till the victim was on the ground and then stole his cell phone. Now THAT was a ‘hood and heartless thing to do. I hope they catch THAT fool and lock him up too!

This made me sick to my stomach! HOW COME NO ONE HELP THIS MAN…HOW COME NO ONE TENDED TO THE LITTLE BOY! WHAT THE HECK IS THIS WORLD COMING TO when we can stand by and watch things happen and DO NOTHING! Shame on those ten people who did NOTHING! 10 against 1! Come on he had a hammer not a glock-9! Damn…

My QUESTION is:

How come NOBODY came to help him?????

This guy probably was insane. Even the grimiest of people wouldnt do this. Let it be a lesson to everyone that black folks need to take mental illness seriously. This man, if ill, is suffering too.

This was a messed up situation and nobody even helped makes it worse, especially if there was more than one man in the car. Then again I’m not surprised because things like this happen everywhere and they proved it on a news show how easy it is for a persona to steal a child in broad daylight, or how easy it is for someone to dump a body along side a highway and nobody would either pay attention or do anything about it. Whenever I’m in New York and I decide to take the train I always carry my pepper spray. Atleast that would give me some time to either kick butt or run away.

…it could happen to anyone…people who are misdiagnosed or undiagnosed are living in your buildings, commuting with you in transit…ready to pop…

Serious thing

Sad, no one help him…maybe it was shock…maybe it was fear…maybe people have turned cold due to live…sad nonetheless.

If it was unresolved beef….dude getting hammered didn’t recognize the man was standing right next to him?

@ african_4_eva, They did help, by going to get help. lol.

He may have mental issues but still there was 10 ppl on there that could have done something to help that poor guy. Its like the Greyhound bus killing in Canada, there were like 30 ppl on the bus and everyone just watched as that guy was killed.

I’m sorry but if I see a guy pull out a hammer and start to wail on some dude on the train I’m getting my 130 pound ass out of there, not gonna be a hero that day.

The 20 year old victim did NOT make any sexual advances towards that man’s son. That man is a paranoid Szhisophrenic (spelling) The boy did not know him at ALL.

Never had any problem with him. The boy that was beat, was sleeping on the Subway, fell asleep listening to his Ipod.

SO no the boy is not gay, he did not make advances. Philly is just fugged up.

I’m from Philly and the final word on this guy is that he is mentally ill. He does have a long list of prior convictions but he’s also been in and out of mental institutions as well. The attack wasn’t personal. The victim did not do anything to this guy’s son. According to this guy’s sister, he’d been hearing voices and thought people were following him. He didn’t know this person at all. I am ashamed to say that no one helped the victim and to make matters worse, someone stole the victim’s cell phone and sold it to someone on the street! Horrible. Not sure why he was able to have his son with him given his background but he didn’t hurt the son. Septa is pretty bad on the sub these days but no matter what, it was a terrible incident. This person should not be walking the streets or allowed to care for a child.

..typical

A few years ago,

a mentally ill man killed a nurse for no reason, he said she tried to “shock” him. He followed her for a few days and shot her in the head. They later found out that he was to blame for a killing of a man that cleaned the subways as well. Before finding the man, the victim’s family thought it was someone that they had beef with and almost started a street war over it.

They later found out that the man killed his own brother years prior. Using the same GUN so Philly is crazy and the SEPTA buses and trains and trolleys are all f’ed up all around. Funny they have a new commercial telling people they can get home safely and fast. Remember a few months ago, there were beat downs and robberies again.

They JUST installed those cameras.

There are 2 sides to every story. Looked like a vendetta ass beatin to me. Sad for all involved.

I agree with helping but not putting yourself in unnecessary danger. Whats the point in rocking up with your fists to someone with a hammer……alone?

That is crazy I ride that subway daily it just not safe….everybody gets out the way and at the end the baby doesn’t know where to go….I’m glad they caught him….how did he even get custody of the child…and the guy was asleep on the train…so he didn’t know what was going on until he started beating him

@ JJ

Well, it took a LONG A** time for “help” to come!!!!!

I hope all is well with the victim and the dude’s son.

1. Did he know the victim? Did the victim say or do something that offended him previously?

2. Why/How did he have custody of his son if he has a rape and criminal record?

3. Why in the hell was a hammer in his son’s bookbag?!?

This is a sad story for both the victim and the hammer toting criminal. It is obvious he has a mental problem that exceeds above and beyond what any jail can resolve. He needs to be admitted to a mental institution pronto! But thank GOD they caught him, just imagine if he had attached someone else.

he crazy as hell

Vee & Sasha thanks for setting the record straight

I still love my city…..Philly,Philly..

maybe I am wrong for this … but I know I am not alone … I am not jumping into any physical altercation on the train, bus, street or any where else … now I will call for help as I am running in the opposite direction … but I am not, I repeat am not, getting in the middle of it … call me selfish, wrong or whatever … but what you can call me is ALIVE!!!!

If i was on the train. It would have been me or that man. some one could have help that man. What kind of mens are u all.

If i was on the train. It would have been me or that man. some one could have help that man. What kind of mens are u all.

I’d like to know what FOOL laid up with this lunatic and allowed herself to get impregnated by him?!? Dam!! She musta’ been really, really drunk…

@DinaLee

I’d like to know what FOOL laid up with this lunatic and allowed herself to get impregnated by him?!? Dam!! She musta’ been really, really drunk…

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My thoughts exactly.

Sep 11, 2008 – 10:33 am hmmm(Check me out!)

On another site, it said that the reason why he did it was that this guy made sexual advances on his son and he went to look for him and in the video, you can see the father talking to his son and telling him to go sit down while he handle some business. I don’t know what to think anymore…two sides of the story….hmmm but he is nuts if it isn’t true!!!! I feel sorry for the boy.

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Yeah, that’s what I heard which in that case, the guy got what he deserved before he do it to someone else’s child and succeed

But I still think it’s gruesome,especially in front of the child

This is why they should legalize carrying concealed weapons in all 50 states to individuals with no criminal background. That’s just my two cents……..

Violence begets violence. I cant believe that he would do something like this, in front of his son..Way to go..Great parents and they wonder why people act the way do….

Their are some really sick people in this world. I just read a news story on MSNBC about a 30 year old man, who is a sex offender posing as a 12 year old boy. He has been enrolled in grade school for over 2 years as a child. Just the thought of a grown chester sitting in a classroom full of babies makes my stomach turn.

“hammer time” uh-oh-uh-oh here’s comes the hammer”

GTFOH SMH

That was scary

@ Movie Quote Man

…**crickets chirping in background***…

Yeah, that was not funny.

Get mad at me if you want, but if that had been a white man getting beat, them slave @ss niccas would have jumped in trying to save the day. that’s just the mentality of black people today. so damn sad.

my heart goes out to the brother that was attacked. and, you people saying it was a vendetta…whatever. i guess you just can’t accept that some niccas are crazy and do random shat like this. yes, it’s a scary thought. but, it is reality. you CAN be minding your own damn business and have something like this happen to you.

again, my heart goes out to the brother that was attacked.

Freeway….is that you?

Wow, that dude is nuts!

- SGKM

My first question is, who walks on the subway with a hammer in their bag? Was he a handyman or something?

My second question is if the guy were sleeping with his ipod and the child was on the other side of the father, how was this man making any gestures. From the video, with my own two eyes I saw a man go into his book bag, grab a hammer, and attack a sleeping man. He may be crazy, but he’s not that crazy if he told that little boy to sit down. I’m guessing he didn’t want the little boy in the way.

Yeah, I read that the guy who was attacked had made some type of sexual advances at the man’s son.

Horrible just HORRIBLE! From the video when the crazy man & his son got on the victim was ALREADY there. So how could he had made any comments to the child? Besides if this comment alibi was true how convienant of him to just happen to have a HAMMER handy! What does he do carry hammers for just in case beat downs?

I don’t buy it one bit…this thing is an animal & they need to exterminate him & look closely at the son cuz he’s sure to inherit some of his dad’s craziness!!!

Ara- How could the victim have made sexual advances at this man’s son. Just think for a minute & use some common sense please…the man was already sleeping on the train when the monster & his Kid got on.

Do you think this man made the comment a day earlier & just happened to have been on the same train the next day or something???

Umm of course the other passengers did nothing, this guy had a hammer and was already attacking!!!!

First off, regardless if he made advances at anyone, beating someone with a hammer is NOT acceptable ya dumbass..and if i were any of those patrons I WOULD NOT have jumped in…who is dumb enough to do that?

God Help Me: this story is so sad and violent. As I said before, I am from Philly. This city is very violent and there are alot of crazies here: just like many other large, metropolitan areas. We do NOT have the highest murder rate–not anymore. We did last year: granted 2007 was off the hook.But our new mayor has done something right: you now see more police officers actually patrolling areas and walking the beat. Their presence has curbed some of the crime. We are killing ourselves: it is nobody’s fault but our OWN. I get sick of people bad-mouthing ALL the blacks in the city or giving Philly a bad rap in general, because I know that I–and people like me, are decent and too busy working to get caught up in crime. So while I feel sad for the loss of (black) lives, I don’t feel guilty because I didnt do anything wrong. Unfortunately, folks like us dont make the news. But the gun-toting, ignoramuses do. In this case the dude with the hammer was just CRAZY. The victim DID NOT say anything sexual to his son-he was attacked at random. And for all of you who say people should have helped, you weren’t there: you don’t know WHAT you would have done. I am a proud black woman and I love my people: but I ain’t NOBODY’S fool. There is no way that I would’ve jumped into that mayhem. I may have jumped off the train at the next stop and called the police–but put myself in harm’s way? No indeed.

I saw this on the news.. I STILL can’t believe people sat around and did nothing… Even the person who finally called the police didn’t even witness the event. She got on the train and found him unconscious.. UNBELIEVABLE!!

I wish he could get life for that attack but moreover – I wish the worthless bastards who sat back and did nothing could be punished as well..

SMDH!!!

This dude needs “his” ass beat with a hammer that’ll teach not to be doing sh!t like that… and his son should be allowed to watch so that his lil dumb ass don’t grow up and do that sh!t.

@ Aoki Lee

That’s what was stated on another website, I was’nt there. Were you???

i hope this coon dies a painful death!!! i hate coons!! they f*ck up we black people especially black men.

@ Davari

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam…

You put it down…

That was some major bithcassness on the part of the passengers. All them damn men and not one of em tried to help. Pussies.

Help us Lord!!! He hits a man with a hammer and folk just watch?! We are living in the last days.

@ DAVARI AGAIN

There are no “ENTREPRENEURIAL INCLINED DOPE BOYS”in Philadelphia. just a bunch of so-called queens who seem to love spending years behind bars,enjoying the company of many,many men and indulging in some seriously questionable behavior. To all the sisters in Philadelphia and every other city in America. If your messing with any of these cats who spent any kind of time locked up,I suggest you get yourself tested NOW because the main reasons young Black women are the highest number of new reported HIV cases is because of these” ENTREPRENEURIAL INCLINED DOPE BOYS” and other assorted frequent jail house queens.

NO DOUBT… MOST OF THE ENTREPRENEURIAL INCLINED DOPE BOYS ARE DEAD OR IN JAIL… THE ONES WHO AREN’T NEVER WENT TO JAIL BECAUSE THEY WERE SMART ENOUGH TO LEAVE ON TOP… I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYONE HAVE MORE THAN A 5 YEAR RUN… AND THE POEPLE I’VE SEEN MAKE THE MOST MONEY WERE SUBURBAN WHITE DUDES…

It’s mad crazy out here. Things like this happen alot in inner cities and noone does anything about it. I’m a little person ok. 122lbs and 5ft.3, so i’m not going to sit up here and say that i would be on that superman-ish. But i wouldve called the cops. Stuff like this happens all the time. I remember growing up in a urban inner city and people got blasted on all the time. Sometimes they would just let them sit in the street and bleed to death. Cops did too. Instead of getting dude to the nearest emergency room, they are trying to look for suspects an s***! By the time the ambulance got there, dude is gone. But the guy who beat dude with the hammer is just down right crazy. If there isnt more behind this story, then i want to see C.P.S, and a straight jacket slapped on this guy!

All jokes aside…real talk…That is a horrible sight, God Bless the man who was attacked. There has to be more to this story. I just can’t wrap my mind around such blatent violence. GOD help us.

Yikes Philly sounds ill.

SMDH,

I agree with you so much. The first dude that ran was a big dude then you see in the video two other dudes that actually stopped and walked to the other side of the train. Those three men could knocked him down and snatched that hammer from him. Let it have been one of them they would’ve been on the news pissed that nobody helped them. It is common though, cause undercover cops did a scene right in nyc city where they had a child actress screaming and crying as an undercover dragged her down the street. You know it took a half hour before someone actually responded and they said a half hour is all it takes to get a child from one borough to another. People that walked right pass them felt dumb afterwards.

I think it’s easy to say what one should have done at the time…who’s say that the crazy dude (before they knew he was crazy) wasn’t going after a bad man…some things happen too quick and you don’t have time to react….it would be one thing if dude didn’t have a weapon but he had a stinking hammer…with the fork on the other side of the hammer for pulling out nails!!! I’m sorry but I don’t think I would have run up on him either…what I would have done was get the child away quickly and call the police..

God Bless that child

I’ve got mixed feelings about this one, guys.

I’ve heard about this story and seen the disturbing video no less than three times. One of the stories claimed the attacker hammered this man because of something he allegedly (sexually) had done to his son. I swear–don’t bet the farm on this but I KNOW I HEARD THAT ON ONE OF THE REPORTS!!!!!!!!!

Now, if that was the case and the report is true well, I’m sorry you guys, I’d have to side with the attacker!

Please note that–If he had, in fact, done something to the little boy then the father had every right to bash his head in.

I’m surprised he didn’t kill ‘em!!!!!

On the other hand–

I’m not going to bash Philly or any other city because this can and will happen anywhere.

In fact–I’ll let it go down on record by stating that–I visited Philly for the very first time ever recently and I can honestly say that I can count on ONE hand how many times I had a better weekend–IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!!!

Philly showed me nothin’ but love and my suitcase is packed AGAIN–waiting to take another flight!!!

THE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN AN AREA, THE HIGHER THE POSSIBILITY OF YOU RUNNING INTO A CRAZY PERSON AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENING. MIX THAT IN WITH POVERTY AND DESPERATION, THAT ONLY INCREASES THE PROBABILITY. BASICALLY THIS COULD HAPPEN ANYWHERE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. IT’S NICE TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD GET HELP IF BEING ATTACKED BUT THE LIKELIHOOD IS VERY LOW.

TrueDiva thats what I heard too. You don’t mess around when its your son, daughters, sister whoever being sexually abused. I’m siding with the attacker until i hear otherwise.

@Sapnishbutterfly I co-sign! This could of happened anywhere in the world.

1. Who is the dumb broad that spread her legs and had a child with this man?

2. Why did he have custody if he was mental?

3. Why did he wait to get home to try and kill himself with the hammer. You wanna kill yourself? Could have stepped in front of a bus when you got out the subway.

@Tivo

Right on, right on, right on!

Just looking at the mug, you know this cat has issues and now we know that definitely since the apples don’t fall too far from the tree, that kid of his is just as messed up.

This man seems to be paranoid and crazed. Where is the mother of this child? He has no business being near this child.

It’s pitiful that anyone would defend the attacker He’s not as crazy as he’s playing. He had sense enough to come up with a “motive” for his attempt at murder. I pray for the victim and for the attacker’s child. I worked at a mental hospital for years. I’m willing to bet this man is a paranoid schizophrenic who has been off his meds for some time. From all accounts he has a long history of violence. I hope that none of his defenders on this site encounters an individual with his kind of mental problems.

That was not a random act dumb ass idiots…That was premeditated..This dude is not crazy…If you had common ass sense you would be able to see. I bet that victim did try to sexually assault his kid. I hope he hammered his head into a wall. Faggot child molester

The best a hammer is the winner. These days you need a sad story like his son that makes you think differently about nut jobs. Nut jobs usually pay ss niccas a certain amount of Septa transportation that is produced by his son.

Wow. Some of these comments are completely scary. Maybe it’s a good thing AIDS is wiping our community out. My people are so stupid (and homophobic), AIDS is exactly what some of you need and deserve.

On the real, stop it with that “he molested the man’s child” bit. It’s simply not true, you retards.

Chucky B, you are sad, sad, sad. You’re quite delusional as well. Why display your idiotic character by stating “I have never met someone with aids…I dont know what community you live in..but aids is not wiping out mine.”

Chucky B, you are one clueless black man (assuming you are black). So sad.

OMG THATS SOO SAD.I WISH PHILLY WASN’T LIKE THIS

this is just messed up. I hope he gets locked up for eva. For eva? For eva evah