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Wow.

who cares this happens everyday.She thought she hit the jackpot but she just hit a new custody agreement.

Dwight need to grow up….he’s n da wrong..smh@custody battles….aint shyt wrong wit dark females…u hate urself…smh@u

why not just let the baby stay with his dad that day? i think she was dead wrong for this one.parents need to put the child’s needs ahead of their own anger issues.can you imaginge how the baby felt?his dad picks him up it’s a nice surprise,then soon after they get to the house,he has to return to school where mom takes him home.this was petty and mean.what damn difference did one afternoon make in the scheme of things? this girl needs to grow up and stop making her baby suffer because she was too stupid to wait for the right situation to bring a baby into….instead of having a child with her “boyfriend” she should have created a family with her “husband” things would probably worked out better for everyone involved.smh in sadness.

Word!

Ballers better learn who they are sleeping with.

I don’t agree. We don’t know the whole situation. He may have been trying to punk her. What may have started as one afternoon would continue as him getting the child whenever he pleased regardless of their agreement. If she let this go on, he could just say she agreed to it, she let me take him and he would get his way by default. It states that this is already an ongoing battle. I am sure she can’t afford for father to make the case that he picks up the child whenever because she really doesn’t want to take care of him. Obviously dad was in the wrong or they wouldn’t have ordered him to return the child

He’s going to have to deal with her for 21 years! It’s a jail sentence.

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She just being a evil dramatic b**ch!!! I bet he feelin like he hate he met that crazy b**ch! And @Bx 2dadeath,i agree.

This only happens to people who try to take care of their seeds…If he didn’t try to see his kid and just payed child support nobody would care..Imagine waht cats who don’t have Dwight Howard’s money go thru…Women let men be fathers to their children if they’re trying to…This chick Royce is just another bird..

I agree w/J’s World…he does need to grow up if I went to daycare where I left my child and he/she were gone and his dad had took him when we don’t have a legal agreement I wld have done the same thing,especically after all the mess he has put her thru. I’m not saying he’s wrong and she’s right but a lil communication is what they need.

Yes there are some idiot moms out there, but lets not pretend that the vast majority of the time the man (black men in particular) don’t try to be fathers. Keep it real.

Children need parents for life.

Man, both of you bytches need to go play in traffic. Reese is the shyt and you know you’d try to fuk.

see that is exactly my point,if he’s trying to punk her,then what she did by calling the cops and making a fuss was to keep HERSELF from being punked.meanwhile the little boy gets a day out with his dad interrupted.now as to the custody bit,the father should have equal access to the child.50/50 that’s whats fair and it’s in the best interest of the baby to grow up with a strong and active relationship with the other person who loves him as much as his mom does.his dad.plus i’m so sick of brothers being battered with the police everytime a woman does’nt get her way.why call on the other man to regulate and interfere in your family?this may come as a surprise but the police do not have any more respect for the sisters who call them than they do for anyone else.they look at you like trash becuse you can’t even work out private family matters without help.btw i’m thinking she doesn’t want to fairly divide the childs time with dad because that may cut down on the support payments.why else prevent a boy from being with his father? i respect your opinion but i still think she’s being selfish,immature and petty.(IMO)

she’s just trying to alienate howard from his son…parental alienation in these situations does so much damage to the child

Ok, but when she has ‘something to do’ DON’T call Dwight and be like ‘can you pick shawty up from daycare for me? I gotta (get my nails did/got a party to go to/etc).

Y is the woman always to blame? If it wasnt his day to have the child and he went and picked him up without Royce okaying it, then he was wrong. It would be wrong if she decided to interrupt their time also! U call the cops as a last resort because all Dwight had to do was ignore her and she’d have no idea where her baby was. Smh

hi mrs. rance,i am in complete disagreement with you regarding”the vast majority of black men not being father’s” although a large portion of our community do not marry the mother/father of the children they create,MOST black men play an important and active part in their childrens lives.the black men i’v had the honor of knowing, love their children as much as, if not more than any other race of people.we’ve just been getting bad information from the people who control the outlets we get our info from.i’v been around black men all my life and they love their kids! don’t let others influence how you see our men.they are good and most of them DO take care of their children.i’m hoping that you will reconsider your opinion because our men need us to respect and encourage them. wishing you a great day sister!!

Obviously she felt she couldn’t call Dwight to accomplish anything. Why would he just pick up his son and not get it squared away with her first. How do you know that they don’t already have 50/50 visitation? Why would he take it on himself to go against what hadn’t been agreed on by all parties? He felt because of who he is he could do whatever he pleased. I am glad she called the po po and she should do it again if he steps out of line.

I agree 100%. They had a visitation agreement for a reason to protect all parties involved. He knew the agreement hadn’t been signed yet. He was the one being petty. How do we know she didn’t call him first? He probably dismissed her and she had no choice but call the police. I would have done the same thing.

This is what happens when you have a baby with an immature DUMB b*tch…

Now he has to deal with this retarded broad and her nonsense for the rest of his LIFE!!!

He was wrong for removing that baby without her ok,point blank.All it took was a phone call.wrong is wrong.

maybe he was just missing his kid that day and popped over to get him? i don’t think anybody involved is intentionally being a douche.kids are cute and fun to hang out with. who can blame anybody for wanting a little spontaneous fun time? hell,i’v been divorced too what i did’nt need was someone else to help me and the person i made the kids with to tell us how to care for them and how much time we would be allowed to have. anyway i’m signing off now.i did very much enjoy the debate and am wishing you both a great day.@!!! and therealac.

16 MORE years of this, 16 MORE years…

This won’t be the last of her antics…

If he was givin her tha DIQ I bet she wouldnt care when he picked his son up

This is another reason why some black men despise black women..

Why are y’all always using the POLICE & JUSTICE DEPARTMENT against the BLACK MAN???

Y’all are quick to cry racism but you love the WHITE MAN than the BLACK MAN… Y’all are always calling the WHITE MAN whenever you’ve got a little dispute with the BLACK MAN..

F*ck all AUNT TOMASINAS in the world – I hate BS like this..

What race are you??? Your mother so missed the mark raising your simple but.

Goodmorning Bo.ss.ipers. I went through the same exact situation as Ms. Royce and Mr. Dwight (thank God that storm has long pa.ss.ed). Unfortunately, when a couple is going through a custody battle regarding a child or children either one or BOTH parties can become extremely hostile and visitation agreement’s SHOULD NOT BE VERBAL, but written & filed w/the court, which protects BOTH parties. Therefore, if one party does not obey the court order he/she will be held in contempt. I understand her getting concern, especially due to the fact he seems to have hatred towards her and she might of feared parental abduction. Sometimes when a person is angry at you they do not care to communicate, therefore one is forced to take such a measures (calling cops).

To many cops calling Aunt Tomasinas in the house…. I wonder why they need cops instead of JESUS – are the gods dead??? Hmmm, the almighty GOD still lives inside of me!!

I’m out before they call the cops on me….

What it do SNITCHES???

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!

In some states BOTH the custodial & non-custodial parents are court ordered to take parental cla.ss.es (it does help for some) and a sit down talk with mediation person from the court to hash out ALL i.ss.ues. Communication is KEY. There is such a thing called Hostile Aggre.ss.ive Parenting they explains how some men/women behave in extremely difficult manners & who avoid all peaceful ways of communication to resolve i.ss.ues. My ex after storm admitted that he was angry of me breaking off the engagement (leaving him)& acted out in anger to spite me by intentionally breaking court orders. He went to counseling and apologized from his heart. We now have a great co-parenting relationship with/for our daughter. It was a long difficult road, but it worked out. All praises to God.

when you have two people who can’t come to an agreement, a third party is necessary. It would have been better for them to work this out on their own but they obviously couldn’t

that is encouraging. hopefully these two can one day get to that point which would be best for the child

Royce, ARE YOU KIDDING ME, IS HIS FATHER ABUSIVE OR IRRESPONSABLE?If you are fussing and fighting in front of your son & not letting him see his dad ,yawls son will grow up with a hole in his side that He will never be able to fill.You are making it about your unresolved issues. Shame on you. Its called MALE BONDING. He needs a male role modle. Are you gona get P.O. if his FATHER takes him to the barber shop? Do you want to take him to a girly hair salon?

@!!!- Goodmorning. It may take a minute to get there, but it is very po.ss.ible. Custody battle’s can bring out the worst in people, and some do not hold back AT ALL. It is so important to not just teach (words only) a child how a man/woman should respect (especially mom/dad)each other, but to show them. I think with a good mediator from the court and raw honesty will do wonders for them and they can be put on the path to be cordial to one another for the sake of their child. However, it takes BOTH to be willingly to do so. Its not about who wins, but what’s best for the child.

well then Dwight is the dumba** for f***king a groupie without protection. Ain’t like he didn’t know what was up. Now he gotta deal with it and play by the rules.

yeah let him do what’s not agreed upon so he can use it in court and say she failed to pick up the child so he did. All he had to do was call her and say i’m about to pick him up. he’s not an idiot, he knew the agreement wasn’t written in stone.

Quit playing this dude like he is the victim here. seem to me like neither one could get they act together so they had to have a written agreement. Where did it say old boy couldn’t see his son? He would have done the same to her had she picked up little dude outside the agreement. grow up and don’t add your spin to the story

some of you need to work on improving your reading comprehension. The article said that there was a verbal agreement between them and it was discussed with their respective lawyers. The agreement had not been but onto offical paper and submitted but it is what the agreed to.

Royce decided to be chicken-head and act out, knowing full well that was the agreement, but also know that because it had not been put into the system yet she was legally right.

Fellas, treat your seed like it’s you last dime. Don’t give it to just anyone, be more selective with your investment.

I went to FAMU with this hoe, she ain’t no good, just as simple as she wanna be, but tried to act SO bougie!

looks like you’re the one that needs to work on comprehension. The article clearly states a new agreement was discussed but never signed per cops discussion with lawyers from both sides. Reading is fundamental boo.

@whatda

I agree. And I remember before he entered the league all that nonsense he was talking about how he’s not going to get caught up with groupies this that and the other now look at what happened and what he has to deal with, LOL…

I feel sorry for him, but that’s what he gets – Now he has to deal with this bird brain broad and her foolishness for 16 MORE years = this ain’t the last time she’s gonna do some dumb sh*t…

you seem like a hater. did she even know you existed?

If the shoe was on the other foot he would have every right to call the po po. An agreement is an agreement. My husband and his ex work their visitation out on their own but neither one steps out of the normal schedule without checking with the other and getting their ok first.

Ok..LOL..I agree and .I know that’s right…

NOW..he coulda maybe…just maybe…given her a courtesy call..heads up…that he was wanting to do this…But IMO a Proven to be generally “SANE”..NON-Threatening”.. “Safe” Co-Parent should have carte blanche to see their shared kid…even if not on some court running your life court ordered…that should be a guideline…but deviations form it should be encouraged…esp for the Daddy- Kid Bonding Time esp if DADDY’s the TYPE that is DESPERATELY WISHING, WILLING, WANTING, ABLE AND AVAILABLE, MAKING TIME TO BE WITH THEIR KID..outside an every other week and half days on Sun’s RULE…wow…

BUT THIS IS ALL BASED UPON 2 SANE..CIVIL 2 EACH OTHER CO-PARENTS…NOT work if between the PARENTS ARE NEMESIS’ 2 each other…using the kid as a pawn between them…

@whatda
Who the f*ck are you?? Are you her handbag or her publicist???

STFU!! Go su-ck some d!cks or go play in the traffic..

Get a life!!

Why is their 2 year old in daycare ANYWAYS???????

What does she do during the day???

No matter if you think she is wrong or right…the courts say she is right which is the reason why her son was returned promptly. If you want a change in visitation, go to court and make it LEGAL!

Ugh, do these negroes know how to write? Because people who don’t write stuff down want it both ways. If it’s all that volatile, put everything down in writing so when dude comes on Tuesday (and it aint Tuesday,) you just whip out the handy dandy WRITTEN agreement and be like … TaDOW. Aint no “I thought the weekend included Thursday” convoluted mess. Whip it out, TaDow, point to the Chinese restaurant calendar hanging on the wall which clearly shows Monday aint Wednesday, and go back to playing Legos in the living room. *smh @ all the unnecessariness of these non-writing negroes*

I agree. There are obvious issues here. Even with mediators they can’t play by the rules. Dwight knew he was wrong with that verbal agreement garbage. If it isn’t written and signed by both parties it doesn’t exist if you playing hardball like that. Bet he has her gag order in writing.

@A Mess wants to know where is her comment?

What are you talking about??? I didn’t say nothing against black women… I was talking about “Aunt Tomasinas.”

@Whatda
How much does that hoeing, pole dancing b!t.c.h pay you to defend her??? Birds of a feather flock together…

Her stupid azz should happy that Dwight Howard is not a deadbeat and he takes time out to look after his child.. I don’t know what Aunt Tomasinas want..

I guess she wouldn’t have called the cops on him if his name was Jesus, huh??

Dwight was wrong…at the end of the day…the written orders are the ones that count…if Royce was wrong…Dwight would have been able to keep the child….Follow the order or get it changed to suit your needs homie.

how much is that dumb a$$ can’t read a visitation order, sticking his d**k in anything that moves Dwight Howard paying you to lick dingle berries off his a**? Don’t think that he wouldn’t have called the cops on her if she had done the same thing. Get your head and neck out his a$$ acting like him being a father to his child should get him a reward. It is his obligation. Quit sitting and spinning on his d**k and take up a real cause

that’s a dag on shame that the kid is the one that has to suffer this turmoil. You would think that “Adults” would be able to come to an agreement. SMH

@ I am legend and realist: how old are you cats? Be honest.

I feel bad this poor kid has to suffer because his parents are petty and immature.

Well, no one knows the whole story but damn he is the dad……right???

We do not know all the details of the story. Every story has three sides — his side, her side and the truth. Unfortunately, child custody battles can be very ugly. If anyone has been involved in a custody battle and you have “verbal agreements” going on between the custodial and non-custodial parent this makes unpleasant situations like this one. ANY attorney will tell you must follow the rules of the current/legal agreement. Failure to follow the rules will make you subject to loss of custody or the agreement maybe void.

From the sound of this, not much time lapsed between Dwight picking him up and having to return the child. So why’d the nanny already have him?

Well thank you for that respectful disagreement. Ain’t nothing wrong with a little healthy debate. Maybe I should speak for myself. When I was growing up probably 90% of the people I knew were fatherless. I didnt’ know who their daddy was and I never saw them. The same can be said for my deadbeat dad and my husbands. So I will change that to say 90% of the hundreds of people I know personally grew up without a father and they are all black. My one white friend was raised by both of her parents.

Cats?? I don’t like “cats” especially the caramel cats, ya dig..

Cosign….shyt dont make no sense….she should have called him and said, “you know you wrong….I’ll let you keep him since you already picked him up, but we need to discuss this”….bish better learn how to get along with baby daddy instead of trying to be a bish to him cause he dont want her no more.

You making some sense there. These men need to stop playing the victim like some ho put a gun to their head and forced them to have unprotected sex. Then everyone gives them a medal for paying child support and spending time with the kid, something he should be doing any damn way

@Ms Rance…I hear you but I can only speak from my experiences and my father was that way but I’m not and the majority of black men I know take pride in their seeds…But I still love my sisters…

@Ms Rance…I hear you but I can only speak from my experiences and my father was that way but I’m not and the majority of black men I know take pride in their seeds…But I still love my sisters…

If it wasn’t for Dwight, she’d be shaking her behind for $1 or working as an azzistant manager somewhere

lol at this nonsense. How many of you women reading this have an absentee baby daddy and/or are getting less than $200 a month because he’s broke or has multiple baby mammas’ all over town. He’s giving her 15k to 20k a month and she’s complaining about him being with HIS SON? If she had a problem with the way he picked up THEIR child, she should have asked him to let her know or called her attorney to get a letter of understanding. Calling the police might cost him an endorsement ect…. Perspective ladies perspective

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your statements are not true at all according to the Journal of Family Studies:

“Findings reveal no significant differences between African American/Black and White fathers’ type of involvement and perceptions of fathering, although there is a trend for African American/Black fathers to have more contact with their children compared with White fathers.”

and 70% of black men ordered to pay child support do so

yet again we have someone with no proof to back up what they are saying, but stewing stereotypes against black men

Don’t be so quick to give this guy a medal. He has to pay that money. It is not like he can quit his job and hide out like some deadbeat dad with a low paying job. He wasn’t doing Royce a favor when this child was conceived, he was being dumb out for his own pleasure having unprotected sex. Now he is dealing with the consequences. When there is a court order, both parties have to follow it. that is the bottom line

according to you birth control is the responsibility of only one of the parties involved??

Dwight otta give up the money because he has it make life easire for him and the child. He should stop trying to punish her…Not a good look the kid is getting older and will notice soon

@Marquis de Sade, what does your skipping over the rainbow fruity pebble acting b**ch a$$ know about any relationship between a man and a woman? You know your real name is Twan and you just wish you had had is child. Go somewhere and finish putting that Preparation H on your stretched a$$

i agree with u… hes playing games with his son, who the hell puts a gag order ontther own baby moma anyway!?!?! hes a pu55y as far as i see it… a byt@h made ni99a. he violated the order on purpose to play with royce. and she got that ish handled.

Exhibit A of how casual encounters can go wrong. They hooked up, and a child was the result. They BOTH should have used protection, especially because of AIDS and other STDs.

I WOULD like to say that people should not have random intimate encounters, but people will be people regardless of the cir.c.u.m.stances. In the end, it is unfortunate that the child must pay for the price for two adults who were not careful and are using the child as a pawn to get back at the other. Hopefully, some form of parenting cl.a.s.s.es have been ordered for both of them.

H, Ms. EJ! (waving)

Hope all is well with you!

Please, many of the people on here talking about Dwight being wrong wish their Daddy picked them up from daycare, or their auntie house, or their grandma house or anywhere for that matter. Any woman that limits when a man can be a father, especially if he’s a positive man and trying to be a positive influence has bitter issues…whateva

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Whatda and !!!, I am so glad both of you said what you did, obviously both of you along with a few others on here are SMART enough to see the whole picture. Some of the so-called men on here are so H*LL BENT on BLAMING the BLACK WOMAN for this situation along with everything else that’s wrong in the freaking world; it’s SO PATHETIC! Anyone who took the time to actually READ and COMPREHEND what I typed( like Whatda did) would have understood what I was saying. But as I said when people are full of HATE and are DETERMINED to blame someone ( BLACK WOMEN) for something, then there is no getting through to them, which is why I don’t even try. Let the SELF-HATING BROTHERS start with the name calling in 5.4.3.2.1 LOL!

“You making some sense there. These men need to stop playing the victim like some ho put a gun to their head and forced them to have unprotected sex. Then everyone gives them a medal for paying child support and spending time with the kid, something he should be doing any damn way”

BIBLE!!

Isn’t it sad when you are such a screw up as a group that when you do what you’re SUPPOSED to do – what other races of men do EVERY DAY – you expect to be patted on the back for it??? SMH!

Im thinking had she had been at the daycare on time to pick up her son. She would have known he was going with his Dad. Sounds like she did this on purpose, just out of smit…. Im sure the daycare is aware of the agreement as well. Why would they just let him go without authorization?

“Whatda and !!!, I am so glad both of you said what you did, obviously both of you along with a few others on here are SMART enough to see the whole picture. Some of the so-called men on here are so H*LL BENT on BLAMING the BLACK WOMAN for this situation along with everything else that’s wrong in the freaking world; it’s SO PATHETIC! Anyone who took the time to actually READ and COMPREHEND what I typed( like Whatda did) would have understood what I was saying. But as I said when people are full of HATE and are DETERMINED to blame someone ( BLACK WOMEN) for something, then there is no getting through to them, which is why I don’t even try. Let the SELF-HATING BROTHERS start with the name calling in 5.4.3.2.1 LOL!”

CHURCH!!!

Isn’t it sad how the black man has basically made his bed but now that the time comes for him to lie in it he is still on that blame everyone around me kick?? This is the reason he has such an inherent ability to change the position that he is in today.. He is still on that blame everyone else kick and still refusing to take any personal responsibility!!

I will maintain until the day I die that the black man – OVERALL – is everything thats wrong with this race today.. In the interim, yes the black woman should and could make much better choices in the situations she gets herself into but in the big overall picture the black man and his willingness to RUN everytime he is faced with opposition or obstabcles is the cause of EVERYTHING that afflicts this race today – and this turning aorund and blaming as he is RUNNING away is just getting sad and tired. He’s gone from blaming the white man for everything thats wrong with him and is now blaming the black woman for everything thats wrong with him. The inability to take any of his own responsibility is just sad…

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN RETARDED BIT*H AZZED BROTHAS FU*K WITH EVERY RANDOM HOE THAT SHAKES HER FUNKY AZZ HIS WAY. NOW HE HAS TO DEAL WITH HER RETARDED AZZ FOR “LIFE”

That’s all unconfirmed hearsay and you know the paternity case was thrown out.

These H.O’s sound like broken records!!!

lol, if black women used birth control properly and consistently and only had kids when they were married 90% of the problems in the community (illegitimacy, crime, drug abuse, poverty, illiteracy ect..) would be eliminated in 20 years. Fact

Blah, blah, blah, blah the same sh.it everyday. The sooner some of these ninjas kick rocks the better. Yesterday would’ve been too late. The black race will be better off with fewer people and less dead weight.

I love how one mans opinion is the opinion of all of us

basis much???

You should seek mental help immediately! Bitterness will be the death of you!

Straight up Blacc chiccs always want it there way when it comes to these kids and the courts have their bacc. Its sadd but blacc women use the kids

You can call me wrong but calling the cops is unnecessary. Too often the kids get caught up in the middle of drama..I’m sure she loves her son but he just seems to be a meal ticket.

i don’t think anyone is bashing the black man on this because at lease he is in that childs life…she is mad and the only way she can get to him is by being a bi*tch all women do not act like her but I agree she is a bitter black bi*tch….now howz that

No, what’s sad is that you can’t tell the difference between a C and a K.

This child is not cute.

I don’t know the facts and neither do you. What we do know is that he does not have any baby mamma’s running around. For a black athelete sexing at least 12 women raw. He would have at least 6 baby mammas. And that’s sad.

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sexing at least 12 black women raw

Man! I wish that i knew these 2 like you guys!
Then i could be able to comment on what i KNOW to!

You guys are smart!

too

It sounds like a lot of you guys are PROJECTING your failed lives on this situation!

Man..I wish i were you guys!

“lol, if black women used birth control properly and consistently and only had kids when they were married 90% of the problems in the community (illegitimacy, crime, drug abuse, poverty, illiteracy ect..) would be eliminated in 20 years. Fact”

So the answer in the mind of the black man is that the black woman should stop producing his children as opposed to him just being a positive father to the children he creates?? This is EXACTLY whats wrong with the black man now. Its so easy to GIVE UP and RUN than to face his problems like a MAN!!

What is she worried about? He is the father. The boy knows him. Unless he is abusive or was trying to scare her.

You are so right!

O.K. Communicate is the word. Call, text, tweet hey even email but communicate. All this calling the cops and sending the nanny to return the child is absord and just done out of spite. SMH@ the both of them. He should have called just to make sure it was ok to get him he needs to be careful when dealing with that 1.And she could have let the child stay for a couple of hours and had DW meet her at a central spot for drop off/pick up. I mean Royce is on a show called NBA wives and all she ever was truth be told knocked up not wived up.

WHEN ARE YOU BOYS GOING TO GROW UP? YOU’RE THE ONLY RACE THAT THINK DIQ SOLVES ALL PROBLEMS. HAHAHA.

ooops just caught that DH not DW. lol.

You can’t have it both ways people – you cannot INSIST on court-ordered visitation arrangements and then change them to suit you because you now hate your baby’s mother/father.

Doesn’t work that way – poor kid…he has two stupid parents.

LOL, thank you for my laugh of the day. End scene.

men see a woman shake her azz and the first thang they wanna do is fu*ck her, no protection cause thats the womans problem right……….yet if he kept his di*ck in his pants or wrapped it up then booty mama can’t come back and say NO MAURY I AM 1000 % SURE HE IS THE DADDY……ANYTHANG WITH A HEARBEAT MEN WANT TO FU*CK BUT THE BOTTOMLINE IS NOW YA STUCK

BUT THE BLACK MAN IS MAKING JUST AS MANY KIDS WITH WHITE WOMEN AND RUNNING FROM THAT TOO………THEY HAVE AS MANY DIFFERENT BABY DADDIES AND HES NOT THERE EITHER

BRAVO to you for your comments! It’s soooo funny, because the “men” who keep responding to your comments with their IGNORANT comments only VALIDATE what you have said, LOL.

When the police are called in things could have escalated, before you know it somebody is in jail or, even worse, somebody is dead. They could of worked it out wihtout the police involved.

As a mother, I would be upset if my child was taken out of school without my permission. I wouldn’t care who it was, My mother, his father, etc. Reese arrives at the school to discover that her child has already left, yes most women would have anger about that. A mature MAN would have called her prior or left her a message.We don’t know what really happened, but why not tell her you wanted to spend time with your child and even if you discussed it, he still could have left a message reminding her about the date. He won’t do that again, next time he will behave like an adult. I am sure when he has the child she just can’t go get the child simply because she wants to see him. They should work on having a better relationship at least for their son.

Yes! Stop producing kids until your married. What’s so outrageous and radical about that statement. Don’t be fooled illegitimacy is not our culture (certainly we can agree on that). Between 1900 and 1960 (60 years) the black illegitimacy rate was between 10% to 20%. Look it up do your own research.

The statistics don’t lie but do not say that all a black man do is run. Not true. My husband and I were together 13 yrs. and have 3 great and well adjusted kids. He did not run, when we saw that our marriage problems were not getting any better and now we started to dislike eachother we got rid of the broke for the good and he never ran. He takes care of the kids our children want for nothing. So yes there are sad to say some black men who run but so do the white man,so do the asians, the hispanics, the entire world in each culture have men who run no matter what the skin tone. If society stop looking down on MEN in general the black man may want to stay if given a fare hand in it.

@HARDMIKE

I’m not part of the problem, sweetie. I speak from personal experience because my brother has permanent custody of his son. The kids get caught up in the drama and it’s not necessary just like it wasn’t necessary for her to call the cops. For some who say it’s black women I disagree it’s women of all colors that act selfish and use the child as pawn. We complain all too much that black men aren’t stepping up but the ones that do, their d*amned if they do and d*amned if they don’t.

@DaHonestTruth ~ Always Keepin it REAL

“lol, if black women used birth control properly and consistently and only had kids when they were married 90% of the problems in the community (illegitimacy, crime, drug abuse, poverty, illiteracy ect..) would be eliminated in 20 years. Fact”

So the answer in the mind of the black man is that the black woman should stop producing his children as opposed to him just being a positive father to the children he creates?? This is EXACTLY whats wrong with the black man now. Its so easy to GIVE UP and RUN than to face his problems like a MAN!!
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Yes! Stop producing kids until your married. What’s so outrageous and radical about that statement. Don’t be fooled illegitimacy is not our culture (certainly we can agree on that). Between 1900 and 1960 (60 years) the black illegitimacy rate was between 10% to 20%. Look it up do your own research.

What we do know is if the man loves the woman he will love the child. Black women are having babies by men who don’t love them and could care less if they walked out in the middle of the street and got hit by a bus. The only solution is to have kids by someone who thinks and cares enough of you to marry you. Anything else is a crap shot. Are there dead beat married black men. Of course, however, the precentages are low enough to maintain a productive community.

again, you have no evidence to back up your claims, all you have is your miserable experiences, you are so quick to say that black men abandon their children yet The Journal of Family Studies and Newsweek says they are WRONG, not only do these studies say that YOU ARE WRONG, but they also say that BLACK MEN are MORE LIKELY to be a part of their children s life

“In nearly every corner, young Black boys are being devalued. They are told that they are destined to be gang members, drug dealers, prisoners above college students, harbingers of AIDS, lovers of white women and haters of Black women.”

and our women continue to spread these myths

i would not be upset i would want to know if you were keeping him for a couple of days to give me a break and let me know when you are bringing him back.she was way out of line calling the cops if he stays out of that childs life after this then she will have to answer to her son who will want to know bout his daddy

What you’re saying is that 70% of the kids from black man white women relationships are illegitmate. This is emotional defensive nonsense. Trying to discredit just for the sake of trying to win a debate. Ok, you win. I’m out

“The statistics don’t lie but do not say that all a black man do is run. Not true. My husband and I were together 13 yrs. and have 3 great and well adjusted kids. He did not run, when we saw that our marriage problems were not getting any better and now we started to dislike eachother we got rid of the broke for the good and he never ran. He takes care of the kids our children want for nothing. So yes there are sad to say some black men who run but so do the white man,so do the asians, the hispanics, the entire world in each culture have men who run no matter what the skin tone. If society stop looking down on MEN in general the black man may want to stay if given a fare hand in it.”

While your attempt to keep the pride is very noble and I am pleased to hear that your black man has stood beside you unconditionally that just is not the norm!! The black man on the whole will RUN from a problem before he will stay and fight it!! Everyone knows this!! Now I would never sit here and say it is all black men cause its not!! My daddy d@mn sure didn’t run and I know plenty of daddies who didn’t but sadly they today are in the minority and the black woman and the black child are the ones who have consistently suffered as a result of this running game!!!

@DaHonestTruth ~ Always Keepin it REAL

“BUT THE BLACK MAN IS MAKING JUST AS MANY KIDS WITH WHITE WOMEN AND RUNNING FROM THAT TOO………THEY HAVE AS MANY DIFFERENT BABY DADDIES AND HES NOT THERE EITHER”
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What you’re saying is that 70% of the kids from black man white women relationships are illegitimate. This is emotional defensive nonsense. Trying to discredit just for the sake of trying to win a debate. Ok, you win. I’m out

Should Dwight have called Royce to to make sure she didn’t throw a fit when he picked his son up on the spur of the moment? YES! Should Royce have called Dwight and told him that he was wrong and that he shold have let her know that hwas coming to pic up his son.And he shouldn’t make it a habit. YES! Should she have called the cops H*ll NO!. Dwight Howard can’t hide. Everyone knows what this man looks like. Could he really kidnap his child? And go where? Where was he going to hide the lil boy? That’s ridiculous to say the least. I’m not saying that Dwight wasn’t wrong becuase if your goin thought the courts then unfortunatley brotha when your dealing with someone who’s vindictive then your best bet is to abid by the court orders. If she and dwight were cool this wouldn’t have been a problem. Dwight doesn’t want to be with her and she’s highly upset. And the last thing… please black women stop acting like these women {of all races} don’t target athletes entertainers and succesuful men in general. Yes I will agree that the men ought to be smarter and protect themselves for more reasons than just getting a woman pregnant. But don’t ignore that many of these women or diggin for gold and care nothing about their child. There care about the lifestyle having that child can provide them. So they use the child like a piece of merchandise that the father wants back. I know plenty of regular brothas who love their kids and try thier best to be in their childs life but SOME women make it very hard.

“i would not be upset i would want to know if you were keeping him for a couple of days to give me a break and let me know when you are bringing him back.she was way out of line calling the cops if he stays out of that childs life after this then she will have to answer to her son who will want to know bout his daddy”

If he takes this situation and chooses to stay out of his childs life then he is a PUNK who is a major part of the problem!! If he feels he was done wrong then get a lawyer and go to court!! Stop trying to make up your own rules!! if it became necessary to let the courts handle it then stick to the court agreement!! This is a black man with money who can go into court andfight for what he is entitled to in his kids lives just as Dwayne Wade did!! Only a punk with his money would decide to keep it moving and anyone who supports that as a option is just as sad as he would be!! Black men need to start going into court of they feel they are being done wrong by their kids mothers.. If you are correct and on point the judge will definitely see your arguement!! Do you think the white man plays these games wiht the white woman – who will play the same games with the kids the black woman, or any woman will?? Hell no!! He takes her butt to court and he makes his sound arguement infront of the judge and the judge – unless something is wrong with the father or his situation – will always rule justly to him as well as the mother.. the issue is, as usual, it becomes easier for the black man to RUN!!! RUN RUN RUN!! No wonder he excels at sports – he’s so used to RUNNING!!!

“What you’re saying is that 70% of the kids from black man white women relationships are illegitimate. This is emotional defensive nonsense. Trying to discredit just for the sake of trying to win a debate. Ok, you win. I’m out”

I wouldn’t doubt that number one bit!!! Of the kids made between black men and white women I would not doubt one bit its just as high or pretty close to it!!! If only a stat existed and you better believe I’ll be looking for one!!!

“Ok, you win. I’m out”

LOL – are you RUNNING, black man???

Just kidding – I just couldn’t resist it!!!

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What we do know is if the man loves the woman he will love the child. Black women are having babies by men who don’t love them and could care less if they walked out in the middle of the street and got hit by a bus. The only solution is to have kids by someone who thinks and cares enough of you to marry you. Anything else is a crap shot. Are there dead beat married black men. Of course, however, the precentages are low enough to maintain a productive community.”

I agree – however I’m waiting to be told why this only applies to the black man?!!? Why is it only the black man who can care so little about his children?? No other race of man has these issues the way the black man does!! Wy is it so easy for the black man not to “care if his child gets run over in the streets”??? You don’t have to “love” the woman!! Plenty of people fall out of “love”!! Its the CHILD you should be loving and caring enough about to be there.. Its not about a woman!! Why can everyone but the black man see that??? Why does the black woman get blamed for everyone else loving their children but the black man?? Why is it so easy for him to RUN?!?!

Im sorry, it was not you I was responding to, but there is not a man in my family who doesnt take care of their children, and all of my aunts and uncles are married

recently I posted that SOME WOMEN want to blame their problems on black men, granted that some problems black america faces stem from black men, but daily we have women who BLAME EVERYTHING ON BLACK MEN, and I am not saying that black men are not to blame for problems in the black community, my problem is when these so-called women are faced with facts to the contrary, they still choose to follow media myths such as that most black men are:destined to be gang members, drug dealers, prisoners above college students, harbingers of AIDS, lovers of white women and haters of Black women.

my thing is whenever the stats are positive, there is never a problem with being painted with a broad brush, yet when the stats are negative or SOME women dont want the stats attributed to them, its the Black mans fault

“And, in efforts to protect Black women and girls, Black men and boys are typically thrown under the bus as the perpetrators of all things bad and absent from all things good in the Black community.”

Correction

Not the child

Please show us statically facts to back up your claims, they keep child support statics and research online, please show us statical facts to your claims

and dont hold your breath, cause you aint gon find none, you my dear get your information and your ideas about the black man from tv, there is no statical evidence to say black men abandon their children, in fact is information that says the opposite that more times than not the black man is usually MORE INVOLVED THAN HIS WHITE COUNTERPART, in other words these great LATINO AND WHITE DADS you claim to be such GREAT FATHERS are more likely to leave their children than black men,especially if they divorce or break up with the mother of said children, now please find some statically evidence that says otherwise, if you cant, on behalf on all BLACK FATHERS WHO ARE IN THEIR CHILDREN’S LIVES, please have a seat.

Dwight should know the rules. Fathers just PAY for the children, they don’t get to see them and chit like that!

Come on Dwight, get it together.

damn i am a woman first but she didnt have to get like that about it. Its his father. its plenty of men turning down the responsibility as a father. now if he would of never picked up his kid or not come around then he would of been a bad father. ahh sometimes u cant win when a woman is bitter

Are you kidding me??? White women, light skin women, indian women, ALL WOMEN do the same thing!!!! HELLO!!! Wake UP!!! And if you are a black man shame on you for talking about your mother, sisters, female cousin, grandmother, aunt or other black woman you’re related to!!! What an IDIOT!

“Please show us statically facts to back up your claims, they keep child support statics and research online, please show us statical facts to your claims

and dont hold your breath, cause you aint gon find none, you my dear get your information and your ideas about the black man from tv, there is no statical evidence to say black men abandon their children, in fact is information that says the opposite that more times than not the black man is usually MORE INVOLVED THAN HIS WHITE COUNTERPART, in other words these great LATINO AND WHITE DADS you claim to be such GREAT FATHERS are more likely to leave their children than black men,especially if they divorce or break up with the mother of said children, now please find some statically evidence that says otherwise, if you cant, on behalf on all BLACK FATHERS WHO ARE IN THEIR CHILDREN’S LIVES, please have a seat.”

Instead of sending me to do your work for you why don’t YOU look up the stats!! They’re only ALL OVER THE PLACE!!! BTW these stats have been posted here many many times… You’re full of crap and clearly saying what you must to further your agenda!! Stop sititng here acting like this is the first time you’re hearing the black man abandons his kids more often than not!! And sorry to burst your bubble but when you combine the child abandonment stats of all other races of men combined they don’t even reach half the number of black men who abandon their children… Stop acting brand new…

@BlackRikFlair I agree with your comments. To often good fathers are taking advantage of. I personally understand the frustration of a man who just wants to be a good dad. Some woman need to allow the small amount of good fathers to be in their childs life without the drama. It takes a man to raise a man. Too many black boys are denied this opportunity. To often woman use the child as control, monetary gain and pay back. Yes there are so many deadbeat dads but there is also a new trend of selfish deadbeat mothers.

How can you “abandon” something you never agreed to have responsibility for?

“@BlackRikFlair I agree with your comments. To often good fathers are taking advantage of. I personally understand the frustration of a man who just wants to be a good dad. Some woman need to allow the small amount of good fathers to be in their childs life without the drama. It takes a man to raise a man. Too many black boys are denied this opportunity. To often woman use the child as control, monetary gain and pay back. Yes there are so many deadbeat dads but there is also a new trend of selfish deadbeat mothers.”

What he needs to do is take her butt to court with some of the money he’s out there spending on bytches and bling and show a judge he is a good father and that he is entitled to seeing his son the way he feels he should be.. If his manner is correct he will win!! What he needs to not do is what so many black men do which is to give up and abandon the child!! Take these mothers to court.. Stop running and go before a judge and state your case!! If you are correct the ruling will be just as correct!!! Why won’t more black men do this?? Why is it so easy to RUN and pint back at who he wants to blame for him running yet again?? If the mother is wrong a judge will see that!! A judge will respect this father trying to be a father to his child. He will respect not enough black men do this anyway and that will play in his favor – sadly cause no mane deserves special credit for doing what men have been doing since the beginning of time – but he will be successful!! Why won’t more black men do this?? If sista are doing such a bad job why won’t more black me nstep in and go before a judge and take their children??

I guess its just become to easy and commonplace for him to RUN!!!

as a matter of fact just show me any statics to back up anything you are saying, cause to me it sounds like you cant back up anything you are saying

also, if black men abandon their children at such high rates what exactly does it say about the black women who continue to sleep with and have children from these men?

That’s what his goofy _ss gets for bustin’ seed in his first piece of coochie. Homegirl is ugly inside and out.

Newsweek: May 19 2008

The Journal of Family Studies:Race differences among noncustodial fathers noncompliant in child support: Involvement and self-perceptions of fathering

The Census Bureau:
Child support Statics

Boston University professor Rebekah Levine Coley, in a comprehensive study on the black family, found that black fathers who aren’t in the home are much more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than absentee white fathers, or for that matter, fathers of any other ethnic group. The study is not an obscure study buried in the thick pages of a musty academic journal. It was widely cited in a feature article on black fathers in the May 19, 2008 issue of Newsweek.

while their is a high number of ABSENT FATHERS (e.g. FATHERS WHO DO NOT LIVE IN THE HOUSE HOLD WITH THEIR CHILDREN) according to these publications BLACK MEN ARE MORE INVOLVED THAN ANY OTHER RACE

anytime you ready, @da honest lies..Always lying about black men

Royce…move on. He does not want you….dayuuum b!tch.lol

BRAVO!…CO-SIGN!

what an interesting looking child

need

@ Da honest truth

In dwights case dude wants to very much in his childs life but you still write paragraphs about a responsible black father to use it as hammer to black men ?

I don’t get that ?

For real I get the feeling. That you would be for for the annihilation if the black man !

Where would I race be ?

HARDMIKE

Visit Generation X.Net. There’s a Sista called Statuesque, who did a study on why sistas’ (from a broad socio/educational/economical spectrum) tend to choose the RAY RAY’s & POOKIE’S over the ON POINT BROTHA. You’ll find the study covers the same subjects & findings that you, keepitreal, myself, Dr. Drake, et al. Have come to.

Yo its hard to type with mobile phone ??
Sorry for grammar challenges.

And its tiki barber not that sheet I typed above.

@ G Wear a condom MORON, and there will be no trap set.

Obviously there are trust issues between the two.
If I was lableled the groupie skank by everyone in the NBA community, I would probably be mistrustful and want everything in writing too.
Regardless, whatever Royce did or did not do to deserve all the berating, Dwight still should have pre-notified her that he was picking up his son. Even if he thought it was his day to have him. It is out of respect for her role as his mother. He could have had the nanny contact her if he can’t stand to hear her voice.
I wonder if Dwight was just being inconsiderate or if he is trying to establish a negeglice case against her.

Why is it that she is the only one made to look bad? He slept with this woman how does that make him so much above her? Plus he placed a gag order on her so who knows what “dirt” he’s done.
Money does not buy character.

He wasn’t even with the child the entire day and was already with the nanny? WOW!

This is a private matter that should not be on open display. Custody agreements about minor children should not be up for a discussion on a blog. There should be some legal sanctions regarding this. This is a violation of privacy rights. out of regard for their child, I refuse to comment.

Perfect example on why to not bust in random broads. I feel bad for Dwight…….but then again, he did it to himself.

Damn! That’s just plain wrong. She couldn’t resolve the issue without cops. She made it seems like her child was kidnapped.

when are these rich athletes/musicians going to wake up,, when you have children with women who you don’t consider good enough to share your name and life legally as your wife, this is the drama you will deal with.. why tie yourself to a women that you obviously don’t love for at least 18 years,..smdh

so this is the tiki barber, i prefer ronde,{buccaneers all the way lol}anywho, i just rip you a new one for your grammar challenge,i guess i should have waited for 2 minutes and scrolled down further and saw your corrections. however, it sounds like you obviously have a lot of time on your hands and have a personal issue similar to this situation..i have no sympathy for you or mr.howard. i have a 23 year old son that my husband and i raised together. although my husband’s father was not in his life. he did not use this as a crutch to do the same to our son.

oh,btw nice try on disguising your name..ha,ha,ha,

nice try on trying to disguise your name

Uhhhh Howard is a loser. I would have called the police too. He can’t even take care of his own damn child he has a nanny!!!! That is sad he only works a few months out of the year…

@hardmike

You do know that your post will go ignored specifically because up in here the truth never matters when it comes to black men or black women..we do our best up in here to keep the stereotypes of one another alive at our own peril. I re-posted it so that even if they don’t want to address it at least they can’t say they didn’t see it…

Hardmike posted the following in regards to the Family Journal:

“Findings reveal no significant differences between African American/Black and White fathers’ type of involvement and perceptions of fathering, although there is a trend for African American/Black fathers to have more contact with their children compared with White fathers.”

and 70% of black men ordered to pay child support do so

yet again we have someone with no proof to back up what they are saying, but stewing stereotypes against black men

Accepting the truth isn’t as much fun as bashing you’re own….what a way to get your kicks…

Ima beatcha azz!!!!

Here’s some advice ladies. Do not have babies out of wedlock, and even if you are married only have the number of kids that YOU can afford to support. Why? Your marriage/husband may not stick around then you’re left to struggle with raising your children alone. I’ve been married for 14 years, and we only have ONE child. Does my husband want more? Yes. Do I? ABSOLUTELY NOT. During our rough patches he show his black *ss like Dwight Howard, so that taught me a valuable lesson. While I might appear selfish to some, I did make it perfectly clear that he was free to persue another relationship with someone else if he desired to have more children.

He choose her.

One small question, if I may — how did one story about one athlete and the mother of his child turn into an entire discussion about the flaws of brothers and sisters at large? You have to wonder, if the the two individuals had been of another race, would this incident have ignited this type of conversation?

thats a ugly lil boy jezz
look like Glory beat his a ss like she beat his mama.sorry but its the truth.if it will make people less mad i said what they dared to..ugly people usually grow up to be cute people

it started when blackwomen opeened there mouths and talked and tryed to paint blackmen as deadbeats whith out looking in the mirrior

from there on any thread posted showing the oppsite yall got throwen under the bus

“from there on any thread posted showing the oppsite yall got throwen under the bus”

Translation, please?

@Syd

Because too many men and women enter threads hurling insults and generalizations. You know the usual routine. Brothers and sisters enter threads spewing the usual n*ggahs ain’t sh*t or b*tches ain’t sh*t, then a ceaseless back and forth commences. There was a lot of stereotyping in here from both women and men, and I think it’s all ignorant.

I can go to the first page and see where men and women’s VERY FIRST retorts were negative about, either black men or black women.

This is why I don’t engage in these debates much.

oh no u didnt say HUSBANDS,lol
let me guess..i bet u have children by ur different husbands.u didnt learn ur lesson from the 1st failed marriage and now u wanna blame it on the black men u married.there r a lot of dead beat white men out here..but they usually kill they wife and kids so they wont end up on that bulletin board

@Superboy

I agree that black men should not have been painted as deadbeats because I know that’s not true. So far from the truth and it was an insult.

You hurl as much stereotypes about black women. I have seen your posts. Why can’t we all just have respectful conversations without the insults and painting all black men and women with the same brush? It is that hard to not stereotype?

“There was a lot of stereotyping in here from both women and men, and I think it’s all ignorant.”

Hey girl, yes, I agree — and I know that one individual in particular is often painted as being bitter and combative, but she is far from alone. You can cut the acrimony in this thread with a knife, and it’s generated by both genders.

“This is why I don’t engage in these debates much.”

That sounds like a very smart decision to me — I should do more of the same.

dont have anything against white people i have threes and foursums with them all the time

I don’t understand this distorted sense of logic at all. You have individuals who — rightfully — bemoan the stereotyping of a particular group of individuals, but yet they, in turn, state generalizations about a particular gender. It’s as if they cannot see or acknowledge their own hypocrisy.

It amounts to little more than an endless tit-for-tat, and there are no winners. We’re all losing, IMHO.

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. Either you are siding with her because she’s a female or because she was on tv. Either way you’re wrong. My wife knows her and has told me that she’s crazy. She went to dinner one night and the only thing she could talk about was which man with money she wants more. Dwight is a good dude just trying to spend some time with his son. How bout you know the real deal before you decide to defend some money hungry hoe!

Unfortunately every thread no matter its content eventually becomes a referendum on either the faults of black men or black women. Its sad because its as if we know no better, we love to use all in defaming each other “all black men are this” or “All black women are that” we know its not true but yet we continually attack one another for a chuckle or two. If you want to see brothas speak the truth on black women let a white guy come up in here and brag on how ell black women treat him, how black women respect white men more and that black men don’t know how to treat a sista….Brothas will speak the truth and offer example after example of how well their woman treats them, how well they get along and how deep their relationship is…. Sistas are no better because they come together to speak the truth also…all it takes is a white woman to come up in here and say how black men only treat white women well because they are more deserving than black women…suddenly you hear from the sistas how the majority of black men are with black women, how devoted they are to black women and how they come home to them every night……so since we know better why does it take to be provoked by others in order to admit it?? there are a few that tell it everyday but its normally drowned out by the drama….

It is hypocritical to loathe your gender being stereotyped, yet the same culprits turn right around and generalize EVERYDAY.

What’s sad is the same people in here arguing, are the same ones who spew stereotypes DAILY, and dislike for either men or women to not insult their gender.

@Tina

“It’s the same men and women hurling stereotypes every week. And they wonder why they’re ignored?? It’s because they come across DAILY as bitter and very angry.”

Exactly — But I don’t think some of these individuals view themselves as “bitter” or “angry.” It’s pretty obvious who’s seeking to have a confrontation with the opposite gender. They enter the thread in a very defensive manner, and many times, I feel that certain posters expect a certain reaction that will confirm their pre-existing beliefs about a certain group.

*confirm their pre-existing beliefs about a specific group*

“If you want to see brothas speak the truth on black women let a white guy come up in here and brag on how ell black women treat him, how black women respect white men more and that black men don’t know how to treat a sista….Brothas will speak the truth and offer example after example of how well their woman treats them, how well they get along and how deep their relationship is…. Sistas are no better because they come together to speak the truth also…all it takes is a white woman to come up in here and say how black men only treat white women well because they are more deserving than black women…suddenly you hear from the sistas how the majority of black men are with black women, how devoted they are to black women and how they come home to them every night……”

Hi Uncle E, how are you? What you highlighted is sobering — can we not show our love and respect for one another without it being uttered in reaction to a perceived external attack? We’re part of the same community. We came from the same womb. We are mirror images of one another. The more we hurt each other, the more we hurt ourselves.

@It is what it is

I agree with you bruh. How are you btw?

I honestly believe some of the same brothers and sisters who generally spew stereotypes every day, are only here to debase their brothers and sisters. But they claim it’s under the guise of helping or wanting to better the community. There is no way that the same culprits can spew stereotypes every single day, and profess to not be bitter.

Even when threads don’t touch on the community, and the post is about another topic altogether, there are still people who show up to bash one another. This also occurs from both black women and men. I don’t understand it.

The people who think they’re telling it, aren’t. These are the same men and women who hurl insults everyday, along with stereotypes. Then they have the audacity to address someone for stereotyping. SMH, that’s doesn’t make a lick of sense because it’s contradictory.

I like YOUR posts, bruh! I think you offer a balanced perspective, with a mature approach.

@Tina

“There is no way that the same culprits can spew stereotypes every single day, and profess to not be bitter.”

No, there is no way they cannot be bitter — the same is true for individuals who profess to “love” black men or black women, and yet they degrade and stereotype members of that gender at every opportunity. And you hit the nail on the head about the usage of the disingenuous excuse that they are somehow bettering the race. Since when is constant denigration a healthy approach to addressing our challenges?

@Sidney & Tina

I’m great how are the two of you ladies doing? I’m in the middle of setting up a wine tasting, dinner, dancing and live jazz event for my old neighborhood of Pomona….3oo black couples sipping wine, dancing, laughing and enjoying each others company…let some of the folks in here tell it black love doesn’t exist….even though they no better.

@Uncle E

That sounds wonderful and so romantic! There’s nothing better than wine, food, and jazz — that’s a winning combination.

Good evening Sydney™ and Tina!

In my humble opinion, the young NBA player and the mother of his child are immature and ill-equipped to handle co-parenting now that their relationship – however short or long – has ended. That fact that this thread boiled down to a BM vs. BW discussion is an interesting development…but one that I’ve unfortunately come to expect of this site. SMH…

Uncle E (It is what it is), good to see you here. Keep being the voice of reason and good luck with your event!

Hey Butterscotch™! How are you?

Now I’m yearning for a g-l-a-s-s of wine, lol. I just got an e-mail today about wine festivals. This is a good time of year for them, I think.

It’s not healthy. If someone’s posts has stereotypes and insults every day on this blog, no man or woman will ever entertain that because they will appear bitter.

Ladies and gents, I think I’m logging off for the night. Have a good evening, all. Live well, laugh often, love much (is that how the saying goes?).

How ignorant! Don’t you know scandalous women come in all colors!!! You have obviously been rejected by one too many black women. Get a life and some education, again, you are just too simple. self hate?? grow up!

Good night, Syd!

@Uncle

I’m doing well this evening. I absolutely love jazz. I hope you have a good event bruh.

@Butterscotch

Hey girl!

I don’t understand why these threads turn into black men versus women discussions either.

@Butterscotch

I agree with them being too young to raise a child. Royce shouldn’t have called the police, though. She could have handled the situation better. I don’t know Dwight but he seems to be a pretty cool brother, from what I’ve seen. He seems level handed.

After I get married, and I and my husband have children, if we get a divorce, I want us to make arrangements without getting the courts involved. My mom did that with her first husband, and they have a great relationship to this day.

Dwight should also be smarter about the groupies in the NBA and understand that women chase professional athletes. He doesn’t want to wind up like some ignorant players who have 3 – 8 baby mothers. I’m sure he’s been schooled about this, so he needs to strap up. At all times!

Sorry for the late response. I was getting blocked again for some reason. Have a good night ladies and Uncle.

Why is the baby at daycare anyway…where she work?

Foundation of the point. This child represents residual income for herself. If Dwight gets custody of the child, what’s in it for her?

Royce is that Bytch!

Now WHY in the world would he purposefully set his own self up in this manner to “play” with ol’ girl if he got a gag order on her?

Maybe…just maybe….Dwight actually wanted to see his son, so he picked him up from school/daycare to do so….is that possible?

Y’know….both of the parents are of equal blame. The worst part? It’s the baby that will someday grow up to realize just how silly this particular issue between his mother and father was (and how it became “public business” once TMZ hit the scene).

To think that there are millions of other children around that are or will have to deal with this type of ignorance one day….smh

@ Whatda
There should be NOOOOOOOOOOOO written agreement.If Ms Royce knew it was Their sons dad picking him UP and he is not a flight risk or if he is trying to be a good dad she needs to really do some SOUL searching. I still feel she is trying to be THE BOSS or bust.If I am wrong then I apoligise however I don’t believe I am.Why would she get mad cause he picked up THEIR SON from school?

All this proves is that the fathers that are in their childrens lives interact with them more…this does not mean that black men don’t “RUN” from the responsibility of raising children…the fact is that they are more likely to abandon their children and that is a fact …The majority of my generation in my family and also friends grew up WITHOUT fathers in the household…I’m sorry that your offended when BW say that most BM don’t support their children…you may be a great father but it is just not the norm…don’t try and school BW teach your fellow BM how to stick around and be fathers

it amazes me how people make some of the comments they make in regards to these situations….we don’t know what is going on in these people’s lives, we only know what the media wants to report – i think we should all mind our own damn business when it comes to other people’s personal lives – especially when children are involved – what right do we have to judge?

It’s sad the child has an Idiot for a MOM and a Nice Dad who can’t get along. It is clear that she’s crazy, let the man spend time with his son, and stop being a rhythms with witch.

True Dat. Prime example that all them birds on Basketball Wives are ghetto groupies. They are nothing to look up to. Only Shaunie and Jenn cary themselves with any respect or dignity. Dude tryn to spend time with his seed that I know he supporting and she gonna call po po??

@ Hard Mike:

Actually – YES – I need more proof. I don’t even know what this study is, when it was done or where it was done. This could be another country or another time because we all know the black man is NOT in his kids lives more than the white man who is divorced is in his kids lives.. Too many stats prove against it.. Please, yes, elaborate on this study. In fact why don’t you post a link to it. I’d like to read it…

Actually I just read the study myself and to begin with its clearly the blog of an angry blak man. He never ceases to insult the black woman the entire time. Number 3# this angry black man is basing his “findings” on a study done over 11 years ago – I believe the stats were from 1999. Third this is something black men are “reporting” not the black woman or any type of unbiased statistic that was done. Fourth what this study is doing in comparing the absent black father to the absent white father. Of course anything he does is going to er numbers because for the most part the white man is not ABSENT from his childrens lives. So in essence what this study here has done is compared a man who often is absent from his childrens lives and his actions with a man who is RARELY absent from his kids lives. Thats apples and oranges. Not a real comparison.

And you also left out a very important part of this study which I will gladly outline for you:

“So basically, when fathers of similar income who don’t reside with their children are compared, African American fathers are more involved with their children”

The operative pjrase being SIMILIAR INCOMES!!! How many black men have SIMILIAR incomes to the white man?? This is a small piece of absentee black fathers and where I never said all fathers were deadbeat dads this must be the sliver of black fathers who keep me from making a blanketed comparison… When people have money being parents becomes alot easier. Lets ee this study done with the average everyday black man…..

I gave you three studies, you have came up with nothing to back up your claims,outside of the typical stereotypical “black men aint shat, white men are the greatest thing since sliced bread” argument

all you can do is spit out stereotypes, no facts, no studies, nothing, JUST YOUR OPINION

and when we come to the part where he says 70% of black men pay child support how much of that is black men doing the right thing on his own and how much of it a wage garnishment where he really doesn’t have a choice unless he’s willing to quit his job???

I am thru wit it, its obvious you stereotype black men, so no amount of research could ever prove anything to you

you stereotype black men as being inferior to white men
and since the white man is perfect to you, even when OTHER WHITE PEOPLE say that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, you claim you know better than the THOUSANDS of women who were a part of these studies and the MILLIONS who answered the CENSUS

“you stereotype black men as being inferior to white men
and since the white man is perfect to you, even when OTHER WHITE PEOPLE say that THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE, you claim you know better than the THOUSANDS of women who were a part of these studies and the MILLIONS who answered the CENSUS”

Aww whats wrong boo boo?? *wipes tears* It’s okay for the black man to sit around all day comparing the black woman to the white woman and calling the white woman superior but when the roles are reversed and a sista pumps up a white man over a black man its wrong??? GET OVER IT!! If we can deal with it from you you can deal with it from us…

it doesnt matter, they are providing finanicial support for their children, nothing you say matters, as long as these men continue to take care of their children and be apart of their lives, they dont need you approval, nor are they doing so to impress you, they are doing it, and thats all that matters

Apparently its only you, thank you for admitting you harbor resentment towards black men

did somebody break your heart?? did the WW steal your man??

“Apparently its only you, thank you for admitting you harbor resentment towards black men did somebody break your heart?? did the WW steal your man???”

I harbor no more or less resentment that you and your crew who sit here all day bashing black women… Whats wrong did you all get hurt or left for a white man???

“it doesnt matter, they are providing finanicial support for their children, nothing you say matters, as long as these men continue to take care of their children and be apart of their lives, they dont need you approval, nor are they doing so to impress you, they are doing it, and thats all that matters”

Actually it does matter because you have taken a group study done of black men who are financially well off and you are trying to equate it with all absentee black fathers so coming to the true conclusion does matter…

Michael Strhahan and Isiah Thomas have also had this happen to them as has baseball player Chipper Jones, Glen Rice, and Issac Bruce. Guess what..they baby mamas are WHITE. Its an anger thing,not a color thing.

This whole situation was unnecessary. I am certain such a high profile athlete is not going to risk his career by harming hsi son. She could have quickly ( and quietly) called him, or a family member that is an intermediary—you all know there is at least one– and gotten this resolved without police. This is all about self publicity and she doesn’t care how she gets it.

Neither of you may not like what I have to say, but it’s a true observation. Yall are always in these BM vs. BW conversations.

I couldn’t fathom a woman, courts or anyone telling me when I can see MY son. The only thing that Dwight did wrong was to pick the kid up without letting the mother know first. That’s just common courtesy. That is HIS child too.

“@Dahonest- he gave you research. You should have dropped it along time ago, and just walked away. I don’t know why you want to believe that all black men are deadbeats. I’m wondering did your baby father, if you have one, leave you, and did you have a father around when you were growing up. Don’t take it out on all black men. They aren’t your father or baby father. If it wasn’t your father, or baby daddy, it was an ex boyfriend. It was somebody, and you need to learn how to separate your ex from other black men.”

What an ignorant b#tch!! Let me handle this real quick:

He gave me research that was tainted at best to the views of a black man with a blog who was angry that Obama called black men out in his infamous black men need to be better fathers speech back on Fathers Day in 2009. This person cut and pasted pieces of the study that suited his views. When I did the reading of the actual study it came across as much different that this angry black man had posted. No I’m not going to “walk away” because his views of the study were flawed and that needed to be pointed out.

Second off – and it’s clear you are attacking me while dealing with Hard Mike with very kid gloves – I don’t need to answer to you for a d@mn thing. I have FACTS on my side and no matter what is going on in my life it has ZERO to do with the black man and his poor fathering skills. I never said all black men were poor fathers but a great deal are and that’s just that!! I don’t even have kids and I have made that known many times on this board so it was ignorant of you to even come at me the way you did!! I have also made it very well known that my father was in my life until he pa ssed away two years ago. I am a 33 year old woman, so if you do the math you can see my father was always in my life.. How ignorant and immature is it to try to put someone on the spot about their upbringing and experiences because of the black man choosing to get up and RUN everytime an obstacle presents itself to him. That has nothing to do with my life, where I’ve been or where I am going. I don’t see you out here salavating when the black man is in here day after day after day bashing the heck out of the black woman and I don’t expect to have this conversation with you again about me, as an answer to the constant bashing, choosing to show the black man he doesn’t have it all together either!! If it’s okay with you to see us bashed then fall the heck bash when the favor is returned!!

LOL! I do have a man. My fiance is Cuban. He’s not a thug. We both don’t have children.

Hardmike has yet to respond to me. He was wrong over the weekend, and I was ready for him to reply to me. He shouldn’t have been trying to start a gender discussion, especially since the thread was about another subject and no one generalized him.

You deliberately try to start a BM vs BW argument too. You have been doing it for the past 2 years. But you don’t see that.

Both of you stereotype, but still have the audacity to ask BM and BW to stop generalizing. Hypocritical much?

Girl bye! Like I said, I’m not going to talk to a brick wall. So later.

Oh I don’t wear weave and I’m far from fat. I’m an aspiring actress, so I’ve been told I look pretty damn good. Ciao!

“You deliberately try to start a BM vs BW argument too. You have been doing it for the past 2 years. But you don’t see that.”

I provoke discussions which has nothing to do wiht you dealing wiht his bashing with kid gloves yet coming out of your neck to me!! You are part of the problem, not the solution…

“LOL! Are you trying to e-fight? Girl please. I’m not trying to argue with you because I don’t want to talk to a damn BRICK WALL.”

You started it by coming at me and I will gladly finish it by coming at you!! There is nothing more that I love than to put an ignorant @ss person in their place… I’m ready when you are…

First of all a man should not need a legal agreement to pickup his kid unless he’s dangerous. This little smurf looking heffer thought this guy was going to marry her after she had this baby. Since he has not married her she want to make his life a living hell. She is the one he need to grow the hell up. With her funny looking self.

The reason why they’re at “war” with one another is because one person is not over the other.

D. Howard…really lost respect a long time ago with the gag order. The issue seems to be more about how he is treating Royce than anything. It seems that he is always trying to shut her down or always be in authority in some way. She can’t speak his name in public, or put her own child’s pic on her own personal Twitter page like millions of other parents do, and now he is just gonna say bump the agreements and/or arrangements, and just go and randomly get the baby whenever he darn well feels like it. The way he has done her is downright disrespectful IMHO. I’m sure she wants her son to have a good relationship with his dad, but at what sacrifice to her own peace, emotional well-being, and dignity.

that kid needs a damn haircut. i see both of them have their do done.FAIL