I wouldn’t let his daughter get in the way your probably not the only one whose she’s scrared off I would call her bluff or let her know she won’t win this one!

Umm – that’s a tough one. I would say talk to him about it first, if you really like him and think the relationship is worth it. If he is refusing to talk with his daughter and better the situation, then you may have to step. But if you don’t give him the chance to fix things, you may never now what could have been.

A man with kids?

RUN AWAY FAST!

OH WOWWWWWWWWW I’M FIRST. This is why I don’t bring my daughter around other woman. My daughter comes first in my life. She means more to me then my wife does. If I ever heard a woman I was dating say anything negitive about my baby I would drop dat beech off on the freeway.

She has to understand there is no love greater then the love a father has for his almost grown daughter, and sometimes having a daughter is like having a wife. Little girls hate when they feel like some other woman is taking their daddy’s time.

I have cut dates short just cause my lil girl wants me to come home and read her a story. I feel boyfriends and girls break up, husbands and wifes divorce, but the bond between a lil girl and her father is priceless. If this woman really thinks she can break that bond. She must be on that SHINE OLA…

I can understand her being mad about him not punishing his daughter but she has to understand that single parents usually go easy on kids to help fill the void of the other parent being gone.

@BILLIONS – too bad you can’t marry your daughter.

I hope you’re not raising a spoiled brat.

That’s a really good point, brotha.

That is a tough situation. I think I would leave.

THEN STEP THA F.UK OFF BYTCH …NO MAN I KNOW GONNA GIVE UP THEY CHILD FOR YOUR BLOODY ONCE A MONTH C.U.N.T .. BE GONE BYTCH!

@ riyah – that’s true. They don’t know that they’re doing their child an injustice because the world is not going to tolerate a spoiled brat.

Dido!

Your love for your daughter is apparent but the only things that stick out are you love her more the your wife the woman who brought your daughter into this world and in the same sense you compare a father daughter relationship to that of a husband and wife-which I totally disagree the #1 woman in my father’s life was his wife, my mother, he loved all of his daughters and was devoted to each of us but he was a MAN’s MAN his wife came first!

I just think the lil girl knows her dad is feeln new chick and she’s behaving like an intimidated or spoiled child-but I wouldn’t let a lil girl run me off unless she was impossible to deal with-

This lady obviously did not have her father around growing up. This lady should stick to dating men with no kids if this is how she thinks. I am a single parent and if someone I was dating brought that “mess” to me, he would be in for a rude awakening. Him and his daughter are a package deal and what type of woman would want to be with a man that would choose “cooch” over his child??

I agree the father should teach her child respect but I don’t think what the lil girl did is such a big deal???

Lmao at glok and the dad probably feels bad because it him and her and no mom sorry boo but she 14 he aint gon change o well just ignore her BS u only got 4 years left and a good man is worth waiting 4

Stupid azz woman. Everytime some shallow chick compromises her standards this is what happens. Did you expect his daughter just to cling to you? NO. Everything isn’t a fairytale story. If you can’t deal with his daughter then move on, it’s simple. He shouldn’t compromise his daughters relationship for you! I f he hasn’t corrected his daughter, THAT MEANS HE ISN’T AND YOU’RE NOT THAT IMPORTANT! Get out of the relationship or you’re going to end up hurt don’t be bitter and try to take his daughters shine away from him because he’s going to hate you. “Dr. Phil 101″

@msrachael:

We probley BEEN running from the likes of u…

No. I’m raising a brat. I’m raising a little girl who knows there is nothing in this universe that daddy would put before her. Woman think when a man gets with her she should be the number one thing in his life and come before all things. I just saying NO WOMAN, NOT EVEN HER MOMMA WOULD COME BEFORE HER IN MY EYES.

STEPPARENTS ARE EVIL!

great advice and if that doesn’t work play her pranks along with her instead of getting all riled up. just remember only 4 more years! next time stick by your rules of not dating men with kids…:)

leave him. i would never date a man with a daughter only sons. little girls are beasts over their dads and i would not want to fight with a child are her dad.

I do agree a child comes first, most def. But a child is a CHILD and should know her place. It’s up to the father to remind her of that. Just because you are a single parent doesn’t mean you don’t deserve to have love in your life.

I didn’t like my mother’s boyfriend at one time, but I would never do what this girl had her friend do…it’s disrespectful and getting involved in grown folks business.

If you have a wife, why would you be bringing other women around your daughter? I’m confused.

LMAO@ stop it 5. So tru! Don’t knock men with kids until you try it & never say never. Its a lot of good quality men with kids looking for a good quality woman. Don’t just get ANY man w/ kids. Its a lot of factors to consider but they can be loving happy homes just like any1 else home. And if your relationship doesn’t work wit who you have kids with don’t u want a quality man to accept you & your kids as well?

This BYTCH got issues …Take your dark AZZ on somewhere then how she not gonna like his daughter but I bet if he wasnt takin care of his daughter her stank azz would be the first 2 complain

Dating 5 months is not a very long time .. the relationship is still fresh, especially for the child. I can see if they’ve been dating for a year etc.

No, the child shouldn’t be rude but we don’t know if the girlfriend came into the relationship w/ a pre-existing stank attitude because she already didnt like dating men w/ kids but made an exception. We don’t know if the girlfriend said or did something towards the daughter to make her act this way. We don’t know if the girlfriend was trying to act like the girls mama only after 5 mos into the relationship and the girl is retaliating. There’s 3 sides to the story, her side, the daughter side and the truth.

There’s a lot missing from this story.

@COCO

Your love for your daughter is apparent but the only things that stick out are you love her more the your wife the woman who brought your daughter into this world and in the same sense you compare a father daughter relationship to that of a husband and wife-which I totally disagree the #1 woman in my father’s life was his wife, my mother, he loved all of his daughters and was devoted to each of us but he was a MAN’s MAN his wife came first!

I understand what you are saying. The point I’m trying to make is people break up all the time, and a lot of men take the additude and say well me and the mother are not together anymore forget the child. I have created a bond with my daughter so even if me and my wife do broke up my daughter knows daddy loves her and will do anything in the world to make her happy. I got married and did the stand up thing so my baby will know what kind of man she should be with. I bet your parents are still together so I bet you your father has never had to make the choice of who will come first in his life. I know also if I keep my wife happy then my house will be happy, and I will never have to decide who I have to put first. Also what I meant about a daughter been like a wife. A daughter will question you like a wife, will get a additude, and will get jealous if she see a woman talking to her daddy. I didn’t mean anything sexual.

Dump him, this little girl sounds like she needs her azz kicked real good. If her daddy didn’t punish her for that then you already know the outcome when she decides to do something else. If he is not going to discipline her then you need to drop this dude, that’s why I would never date a guy who has kids if he can’t keep them inline, because I don’t give a f**K I will kick a kids azz. You are the grown up even if you aren’t her mother she still has to respect you.

very true!!n plus they only been dating 5months..she talkin like she jus cant believe he hasnt put her over his DAUGHTER because she put a WHOLE 5months in wit tha man..lmao.”blood is thicker than water!!!”..HE NEVER HID HIS DAUGHTER..U KNEW HE WAS A SINGLE FATHER WHN YALL WAS STILL JUS TALKIN ON THA FONE..SHE ACTING BRAND NEW!!

Ha in four years she’ll be gone. In two years she’ll be too interested in her friends/boyfriends that she wont have time to care about old people. just saying

Well unfortunatley the child isnt going anywhere so if this chick cant deal she should get to stepping from now. On the other hand however, this little girl needs to know her place and have some respect for adults. Wat she did was very rude and inappropriate, but the father should have dealt with it. I dont think this relationship is gonna work so she should just cut her loses and move on

too cute.

BILLIONS 9/8/10, 01:29:PM

OH WOWWWWWWWWW I’M FIRST. This is why I don’t bring my daughter around other woman. My daughter comes first in my life. She means more to me then my wife does. If I ever heard a woman I was dating say anything negitive about my baby I would drop dat beech off on the freeway.

She has to understand there is no love greater then the love a father has for his almost grown daughter, and sometimes having a daughter is like having a wife. Little girls hate when they feel like some other woman is taking their daddy’s time.

I have cut dates short just cause my lil girl wants me to come home and read her a story. I feel boyfriends and girls break up, husbands and wifes divorce, but the bond between a lil girl and her father is priceless. If this woman really thinks she can break that bond. She must be on that SHINE OLA…
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Boo you got issues….

Your job is raise a balanced young woman who will eventually LEAVE YOU and establish her own life.

The way you have manipulated things – you are setting both yourself and your daughter up for relationship failure.

You may never have the love you deserve as a man, because you put your kid in the place of a wife (she doesn’t belong there) and your kid may never have a healthy relationship with a man, cause she is always going to be looking for daddy.

Love your daughter but learn that parenting cannot replace the relationship that rightfully belongs to a man and his WIFE.

P.S. – a lot of mothers suffer from this same syndrome which is why their sons can’t ever marry anyone either…never good enough for mama.

That little girl need ‘The Talk.’ I have a step-mother and I never used to like her because I felt like she was taking my dad away from me and trying to take the place of my real mum. But one day my dad sat me down and had a talk with me to let me know that it’s not all about me. That I needed to stop being so selfish and let him find happiness with someone. When the child turns 18 and grows up and goes on about their business who’s the dad gonna turn to? Mrs.Nodody?
So as soon as I understood this I gave my step-mother a chance and I stopped being so resentful towards her. (I still don’t like her that much now though lol).

Anyway this woman should hang in there a little bit longer and if she realises that she can’t handle it she should end it and not get involved with guys with kids. It’s too much drama and effort. (This is coming from a step-child)

Thanks for your reply and your correct my parents would still be together if my father was alive but I get what you mean by a daughter acting like a wife but I just considered that territorial thing to be my role as a daughter : )/lol. Your daughter is very fortunate to have you as her father as I’m extremly blessed to have known a great man who was/is my father

I just love how single parents do not realize that they are raising spoiled brats and let their kids run their lives. Point blank a child should stay in a childs place and let the adults handle it. If a man cannot handle his daughters actions he is not the man for you. All of daddies little girls are not angles. Trust and believe those little angles are devils in the making. Bill will soon learn this

Sounds a little sick, Papi… Get some help!

Lmbo @ Hmmmm –celie and harpo didn’t always get along

You made some very valid points however I can also see where Billions is coming from becuz as a parent your first instinct is to protect the child but as a human being and a child of GOD your first love is self love

It’s drama because of things like this. All the little antics the child might pull to get you to break up. And also if the mother is still alive it’s drama because you don’t know if he’s still dealing with the mother or if they might get back together. Listen to Jahiem’s song “Daddy Thing” (That song is from the male’s perspective though).
And it’s effort because all the work you’re doing to try to get the child to like you and be ok with the idea of you, and yet there’s no gaurantee that you’r relationship will work out. So your efforts may be in vain

Ok, what you are saying is sweet(and somewhat disturbing) but you will NEVER have a woman to spend the rest of your life with if you think your daughter is above them all….How are you gonna feel when SHE gets married and puts her husband(like all spouses should do)before her daddy? Does that mean your not going to live happily ever after?

LOL … yeah who’s Bill ???

^^^and my comment above is speaking as a mother AND a fed-the-hell-up STEPMOTHER! Trust me, going in to a pre-made family is an adjustment, but after you’ve tried for a prolonged period of time and the stepchild continues to take your kindness for weakness, time for the “asskissiness” to cease and reclaim your crown!

Co-Sign 100% That’s all I’m worried about. How is she going to maintain a healthy relationship with any man when daddy thinks of you to be “like his wife”?

So do you feel like it’s okay for this little girl to be disrespectful to this woman (or any adult)? Like I said in a previous post, putting her first would be letting her know that this behavior is wrong. The woman in question is not the ‘other woman’ so there is no competition. This woman just needs to know that she can come around and not be clowned and disrespected by a kid. If allowing her to do so is ‘putting her first’ then we have messed up parenting values. Becuase all it’s doing is making her spoiled, disrespectful and granting youu your wish of being single. But there is nothing wrong with being single…

You may be feeling this guy, but if you can’t get along with his daughter, you may have to fall back.

My Mother is 51 and she remarried about 3 years ago… Her husband has 2 grown, trashy, un-ambitious, disrespectful, ignorant azz daughters. At times they can be disrespectful. In addition to that, they always need help paying their bills or taking care of their kids.

To make a long story short, my Mom’ husband doesn’t Put his kids in their place, so it’s a issue that has continued for as long as my Mom has dated him… Now that they’re married, still nothing has changed.

My Mom hates his daughters, but she love her husband so I guess that what she choose to put up with.

I would Run, it ain’t worth it!

You two have only dated 5 months,he and his daughter will be together FOREVER!!I’m sorry but as a mother,I will have to say that NO parent should compromise their relationship with their child for ANYONE.Since its only been 5 months,you still have time to step off if you can’t accept this.I am not trying to be harsh but I have seen this scenario play itself out many times with friends of mine.This is not an easy thing for any child to accept right away-remember that for whatever reason,her mommy is not in the picture and in that course,the child and the father became closer and she fears losing him.Give it some time if you want the relationship.Five months is not enough time for anyone to adjust to this.

I agree wholeheartedly. It is the parent’s job to set boundaries with their child. If he or she SEES and HEARS their child disrespect a grown adult and does NOT address it, understand that their disciplinary skills are somewhat lax and determine what YOUR limits are.

This can be especially problematic these days because some parents try to be a friend to their child INSTEAD of providing guidance and discipline WITH love. The child must always come first, but how a person parents says a lot about them. Just pay attention, and decide what you can handle WITH DIGNITY.

My brother-in-law is going through something similar. His girlfriend does not like his kids except the one she has with him. He has 4 total and her daughter is the youngest. It is evident to all of his family members that she thinks her little girl needs to be first before all the others. Anyway, that is a big problem with him and he is having a hard time convincing himself that she is not jealous of his kids. He told us that he could NEVER marry a woman that was jealous of his own children except for the one they have together.#justsaying

for me i dont date men with kids for this reason as well.. and i want even give it a second thought.. i was raised by my father and he spoiled me.. i’m 28 years old and he still does.. a father’s and daughter bond can never be broken. i have been the reason my father seperated from alot of his girlfriends. but if the women isn’t good enough for my dad i will tell him. and he trust my judgment.. i dont think she should mention anything to him about his daughter or how he raise her. if she cant take their relationship she may as walk away. thats nothing that will change..

and for some of comments i read.. women asking a man to change his relationship with his kids.. put them first. thats selfish of you.. you dont have to ask.. the relationships with the two will never be equal. your child comes first..

LOL @ WHO IS BILL?? LOL YEAH SHE WROTE IT.. GET A GRIP

So I take it he’s not marrying her because it will only get worse.Its a hard situation for anyone involved.In your brother’s case,I especially feel bad for the other children that feel shunned by her.

Sweetheart I have a son and for a while my dude use to feel my son was the problem when actually he hated the fact that the child wasn’t ours together. It took him losing me and my son to realize how much he loved us and to know how unrealistic he was acting. I took him back and now he’s a better parent than me. As for my son he didn’t like him either and use to try and make me choose but after my dude was gone, he said he acted this way because he felt my dude didn’t want him around. Point is… A child can feel unwanted and trust your dude feel the vibe too, he’s just hoping you change before he has to DUMP YOU!!!

@Nikki – You are an example of people who read what they want to read. Asking a person to discipline their child when the child has shown serious disrespect is not changing a relationship. Asking a parent to make sure that they enforce respect in their home is not being selfish or putting them first. Of course children comes first, but it doesn’t mean that the child gets away with disrespect or malicious behavior.

You’re an example of why father’s need to treat their daughter’s like children and not second wives. You’re 28 and don’t even get basic respect. You sound proud that you kept denying your father happiness with his past girlfriends. You sound ignorant and selfish.

Cosign When will we learn… Absolutely ridiculous behavior coming from a child. Ridiculous. The girlfriend is not that child’s “buddy” to be pranking. Wish I would prank one of my parents’ friends. Chile please. Address the behavior. Talk about what’s behind it. But it has to have consequences… or Daughter will be running that house ….from the ceiling to the floor.

Ummm you should break this relationship off. regardless of what is right or wrong , that is his child, and she isnt going anywhere…

So true!!!!!

I realize that alot of single parents on this blog and generally believe that they need to over compensate with their children in order to make up for the parent that is missing. This is not doing the child any favours. The love between a parent and their child is unconditional, however, love should enable u to tell ur child when he/she is wrong. If u love ur child u should want the best for them, and coddling them and refusing to instill dicipline is not teaching the child anything. They will take that same attitude of indicipline and entitlement into the world and will be unable to function when they realise that the real world doesnt work that way. Being a lax parent is not doing the child any good and quite frankly it is unhealthy.

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SOME OF YOU WOMEN SOUND REALLY CRAZY LIKE HIS LITTLE GIRL IS TO RESPECT HER JUST BECAUSE HER DAD IS DATING HER?

THAT’S RIDICULOUS CONSIDERING THE CHILD MAY NOT EVEN RESPECT HER MOTHER!!! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT SHE’S BEEN THROUGH OR SEEN AS A CHILD AND WHEN THEY’RE THAT YOUNG, THEY ONLY DO THESE THINGS FOR ATTENTION. HOW DOES A GROWN WOMAN JUDGE A CHILD??? PLEASE? I WANNA KNOW!

AND I’M TALKING TO YOU @OH PLEASE AND @CHOCHO FOR YOU TO AGREE THAT THE CHILD IS EVIL!! I HOEP YOU DON NOT HAVE KIDS AND IF YOU DO I’L BET 10 TO 1 THEY’RE GONNA END UP IN THE FATHER’S CUSTODY TALKING THAT ISH!! HOLLERING RESPECT ME AND YOU DESERVE NONE!!

AND HOW DOES SHE KNOW SHE WASN’T GROUNDED OR PUNISHED IN SOME WAY? THAT IS BETWEEN HER AND HER DAD!!! PERIOD.
THE WOMEN WHO WROTE THE LETTER USED THE WORDS SHE’S IN THE WAY AND NOBODY SEEMS TO SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT!! SHE DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING REMOTELY POSITIVE ABOUT THE LITTLE GIRL LIKE I THNK SHE’S BRIGHT AND SHOWS A LOT OF POTENTIAL BUT SHE’S DISRESPECTFUL THEN THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER STORY. BUT TO SAY THAT SHE JUST DOESN’T LIKE HER WOULD SEND RED FLAGS A’WAVING FOR ALL THE STAND UP MEN I KNOW. THE BEESH HAS LOST HER MIND!!

@ nikki. U sound very selfish. Making ur father choose between you and his ex-girlfriends is nothing to be proud of

IT’S NOT HER BUSINESS IF THE CHILD WAS PUNISHED. THAT’S BETWEEN HER AND HER DAD. THESE CHICKS BE OVERSTEPPING THEIR BOUNDARIES TOO SOON. 5 MONTHS?? COME ON.

and 90% of men would be sharing the same woman…@billions this will be y your marriage doesn’t last…people put more effort into the things that are natural…a parents love for thier child shouldn’t need work if you’re there for your child they will know that you will always be there for them you shouldn’t have to sacrifice your own happiness and if you’re not happy…well now you see what the problem is

I understand this woman whole heartedly. She isn’t saying that she wants him to choose between her and the child. What she is saying is that she wants a little respect from both him and the child. Regardless of how innocent the daughter’s prank may have been, it could have turned out worst than it really did. She shouldn’t play those types of games with an adult, she should play those games with her friends. It is very obvious that she was comfortable with the relationship that she and her father shared and no one is trying to take that away from her. But she does need to understand that at some point there is going to be another woman around, and correct they could never take the place of her mother. But she does need to respect them as she would her mother. If this is her father’s spouse and it is obviously serious enough for him to even bring this woman around his child then she should have some type of respect for her. She doesn’t need to be best friends with the woman though it would be nice. But just make sure to maintain that respect. I would hope that he would want his daughter to at least have that. As for him, maybe he did say something to the child about what she did and how it was wrong. Maybe he just didn’t want to do it in front of the girlfriend, which is in his right. I do think that he could have at least let her know that he did talk to his daughter and that something like that wouldn’t happen again. If he knew she felt some kind of way about what happened. B/c I don’t care how much she keeps it inside, if she is feeling some kind of way about this child then he has to sense it. And if this is a relationship worth building on, then he needs to take the steps to make this right just as much as the girlfriend should. Something definitely needs to be worked out here though and it isn’t about choosing anyone over the next b/c we all know the GF would lose that battle, which she should. But it is about respect and there doesn’t seem to be any here. He needs to understand that it is hard enough for a woman with no children to date a man that has and if we do decide to take on that job, then at least try to understand how hard of a decision that is for a man or woman to be with someone who already has a child(ren).

Also, I want to ask the writer”

1. Would u want to bring another CHILD into this relationship?

2. Would u feel safe with ur child being around his dtr, your step-dtr?

If not, LEAVE! I can imagine it would only get worse & u would only get peace once the girl graduates & hopefully goes to college or moves out. Good Luck! U prolly shoulda listened to ur intuition & never gave him a chance. But I understand, we all get lonely

There are several things wrong in my opinion in this letter.
1. Why does his 14 year old daughter have your cell phone number to be able to text you? There would be NO reason for my 14 year old daughter to have my boyfriend of 5 months cell phone number for ANY REASON!
2. Why has the father introduced you to his daughter after only 5 months of dating.
You guys are doing way too much for 5 months. It is obvious you are spending the night at their home because the daughter’s friend sent you the text. You said she knew it would p!ss you off. How did she know this? Have you exhibited jealous behavior around her before.

Bottom line EVERYBODY in this situation is OUT OF ORDER!

I know a woman with 3 kids who ran a good man away because she didn’t like him disciplining her girls. They ran over him & disrespected him 4 the longest & when he let his anger be known she chose her girls side & put him out. After he left, she was calling his job & co workers looking 4 him but he left her a$$ alone 4 good. None of these kids were his & he worked 2 take care of her & her kids but she still let THEM run the show. Having a mixed family takes a plan, open communication, & two mature adults wit a common goal & purpose. It won’t work or be enjoyable any other way. It can be a beautiful thing when its done right I promise.

Having been the girlfriend in that situation and now being a new parent (thankfully with the father), I can empathize with both sides. I also have a stepmom. Shouldn’t be forced to choose one over the other becuase your child and your spouse hold different places in your life. Their role is not the same. Never sacrifice your childs emotional well being but don’t make the mistake of thinking your mate will always take a backseat to your child either because it’s not necessary. A sensible spouse would never be offended by you doing right by your child. A childs best interest is a parents best interest. And if that parent is your mate then his/her best interest is yours also. It takes balance. If you can’t balance the two, as the parent, then perhaps you shouldn’t be in a relationship yet.

U should really relax and contemplate WTF is wrong with you-I did not say any child was evil but your stupid azz so quick to go on a rant that you don’t even know wtf your talking about-Don’t worry about my kids worry about getting some effn therapy since you think typing in CAPS is gonna help me hear you scream any louder- FUK U!

Much agreed, Butterscotch

EXACTLY! TOO MUCH TOO FAST!! MAYBE THE DUDE IS NOT EVEN COMFORTABLE ENOUGH IN THE RELATIONSHIP TO EXTEND HIS DISCIPLINARY DETAILS TO THIS BROAD. SHE PROLLY SAID HE DID NOTHING BECAUSE SHE KNOWS NOTHING. AND IT’S NOT HER BUSINESS!! NOBODY EARNS THEM KINDA STRIPES AFTER 5 MONTHS.

Unless she’s the one, Dad shouldn’t bring her around his daughter. Obviously, the daughter doesn’t want to share Dad.
In saying that, once a commitment has been made, there is little room for negotiation but does open the door for discussion.

New Girlfriend:
“I’m not here to be your Mom or take your Dad from you. But I do love your Dad and I know how much he loves you. I would like to get to know you so I can see all the wonderful things your Dad sees and vice versa. Give me a chance to earn my place in this already built family.”

As for the woman, Don’t f*** up that chance.

Most of all kids need security. They can deal with adversity but they need to know they have a soft place to fall.

NOBODY SAID HER PRANK WAS NOT DISRESPECTFUL BUT HOWEVER HER FATHER CHOSE TO HANDLE IT IS HIS BUSINESS. HE DON’T KNOW HER LIKE THAT YET. AND FOR HER TO SAY OUT HER MOUF THAT SHE’S IN THE WAY!!!! ABOUT SOMEBODY’S CHILD IS OUT OF LINE. AND DESERVES RESPECT AGAIN WHY?

I also think it’s interesting that, theoretically, single parents expect their mate to treat their child as if he/she were their own, but often times don’t give the mate the consideration they’d give if he/she were the other parent. This couple hasn’t been together long so it may not apply but…In a family unit the daughter doesn’t come before the mom or vice versa. There’s equal consideration and respect for both.

I dont understand why people here compare a wife and a daughter (???). Plus a daughter will be a better woman later if she learns how a father can truly love his wife. So Yes, SHE NEEDS TO SEE THAT – and it looks like more of the father here are making the situation difficult because THEY COMPARE THE UNCOMPARABLE

It does not HAAAARrrrdly matter if they’ve been seeing each other for 2 months, 5 months or 5 years. Time is not the issue. What is the issue is how that child treats adults. The level of romantic relationship has nothing to do with it. That dad’s doing that girl a severe disservice if she thinks she’s going to walk through this world acting like this towards adults… disrespecting teachers, showing out on her boss on her little summer job. The emotion of “I’m his girlfriend” needs to be removed from the equation and it needs to be replaced with the idea of teaching respect. The “I’m his gf” is a power play anyway and that child thrives on that. It will actually help the dad to address it now because, truth be told, even if this gf bounces, he’s only making it harder for himself when he finds that special someone down the road and the daughter FULLY believes she can do whatever she wants and runs her away. Nope. Sorry. Gotta treat this as a teachable moment to learn how respect works and nip this mess in the bud for everyone’s sake.

Exactly. It’s great that he is a single father, but that doesn’t mean he needs to raise a spoiled, disrespectful little girl.

A therapist once told my bf that if he does not take control of the discipline his 10 year old daughter has the power to ruin our relationship. A 10 year old child.

Right. Also, it’s unrealistic to expect someone to love YOUR child as their own, when they haven’t been responsible in their upbringing and have limited say in their current upbringing. It works out in some cases, but in a lot it doesn’t.

It’s unrealistic. The first step in these types of relationships is establishing respect, not love. RESPECT on both sides. Then you work on everything else. And it’s very possible that the person may not love that child as their own, but will still respect the child and try to do everything in their best interests.

Look she has only been seeing this guy for 5 months slow down.I suggest she give things more time,try to get to know the daughter first.

I like reading ur responses. U speak with wisdom

The trick is to take the child under your wing, and focus your attention on them. I did it. I met my boyfriend’s daughter who was 12, and I pretty much gave her my attention when I was around. I took her places with me… It was to the point where he had to ask me to give him some attention… I had her eating out the palm of my hand.

I let her help me cook, I did her hair… He was so jealous. so after me spoiling her rotten, she was happy to let me be with her father, she never wanted me to leave him.. When we broke up (cause he was stupid) she got mad at him for not making me happy…

It works like a charm!!!

@Billion

You are f (ing) your daughter point blank.

You crazy male.

Respect goes both ways if the girlfriend wants it she has to give it to.

I believe thats the way to do it

EXCELLENT POINT MADE!

I don’t want a snack or congrats or any of that. I’m saying what I feel. If the chic didn’t like she can kicks rocks. As far as my child pulling the prank and disprespecting adults I agree should be delt with with.

You don’t date men with kids, so stick your values. Why force it?

I’m still here….

People think that it’s not a good idea to introduce your children so soon into a relationship?

hmmmm…….that depends on how you “define” relationships.

On one hand..I don’t shyt where I eat meaning, you’re not staying at my house. There is NO way my children will wake up to a man in my house. Not now, not NEVER! (unless I decide to remarry)

On the other hand, if you are the type of man that is “children friendly” (and TRUST–I KNOW when you’re “fronting” in front of my child) then we would do things that would include “us” as a unit.

My 16 year old is not disrespectful but I can tell when he doesn’t particularly care for someone I’m seeing. At first I thought it was a jealous thing and he wanted me and my ex to get back together and it probably could’ve been that but, when my son would “casually” mention something like “he get’s an awful lot of phone calls from women he says are family members” or “I notice he always wants to drive YOUR car when we go out” it’s usually something there that would cause me to rethink the “relationship.” My first thought is–”If my son picks up some of the SAME things I notice…..”

I think people are taking what I said out of context when I say having a daughter is like having a wife. I don’t mean anything sexual. what I mean is that if you a single father of a daughter with no other woman in your life. Your daughter becomes your life. Your daughter like your wife would come first before anything and everybody. and like a wife if you are not putting in the time you need with her she will let you know. If you decide to bring another woman into the situation like a wife your daughter is going to have questions. OH AND DON’T LET YOUR DAUGHTER NOT LIKE HER,CAUSE JUST LIKE A G/F OR WIFE SHE WILL CALL AND PLAY ON HER PHONE. SOMETHING THAT 95% OF MEN HAVE DELT WITH.

I think people are taking what I said out of context when I say having a daughter is like having a wife. I don’t mean anything sexual. what I mean is that if you a single father of a daughter with no other woman in your life. Your daughter becomes your life. Your daughter like your wife would come first before anything and everybody. and like a wife if you are not putting in the time you need with her she will let you know. If you decide to bring another woman into the situation like a wife your daughter is going to have questions.

See this here don’t make any sense…..its simple this particular brotha doesn’t feel the need to admonish his daughter or have her respect you because he doesn’t its as plain and simple I don’t see where any confusion is???? I don’t give a fugg how wonderful a person is in every other category….if there’s no respect it ain’t cracking feel me……Yo azz should have been bounced….

Ur brother in law #1- needs to keep his d*ck in his pants, #2- get to KNOW the woman/women he decides to have children with.

That sounds like a big arse mess that he started. I know she had to show this side of her BEFORE she got pregnant by him. I cant imagine she was snickling & grinning all up in the kids faces then turned her back on them when her dtr was born.

LOOK DEEP B4 U LEAP. In this case, LOOK DEEP B4 U DROP SEEDS

P.S. Don’t blame the child that’s ignorant blame the fool who allows her to act out in this fashion without reprise. Can’t see how a grown man being led around by his nose can come off as attractive.

I understood what u were saying

Good men are concerned & worry about their daughters. They want the best for their lil’ girl

Women do it to with their son’s. Why do u think women are so judgmental about who their sons bring home.

I bet if this scenario was turned around where a son was disrespecting a boyfriend, some responses would prolly be: 1- kick the son out cuz he too grown & if he wana be a man he can do it in his own house or 3- The son wants to protect his mama.

U said it ALL! No1 else needs to comment

this is just typical stepparent behavior, they believe that they should garner all of their partners attention but they ignore the fact that the children come before them. it doesn’t matter whether or not they like you because they’re permanently in your partners life. accept them as they are or move on

@ Spongetta Citronella.

You are right. If it was the other way around 90% of the woman in here would be taking up for their son. My mom is the same way. The only difference with my mother is she will go out of her way to get to know a girl before she decides she does not like them. I can honestly say that everytime my moma told me to leave a girl alone and I didn’t I always regreted it. I don’t condone the daughter playing on the phone. I agree that was disrepectful, but did she expect him to do? beat the child, not feed her, punish her for a month? Plus he has been only dating this chic for 5 months. I mean come on now. Dude might like her. He may be even digging her. but no one falls head over heels in love with someone after five months. You barly know the person. he may of had a talk with his daughter when she was not around.

Bottom line, she needs to sit and have a heart to heart talk with her man and go from there .. Ok, KoKo & Bill? LOL (comment from earlier post pg 1)

DOESN’T THIS SOUND EXACLY LIKE WHAT A EX-WIFE OF ANGRY G/F WOULD DO? GET A HOLD OF YOU NEW GIRL NUMBER AND PLAY ON THEIR PHONE. I’M JUST SAYING..

Who says she is not giving respect? And do you condone a 14 year old CHILD getting out of pocket with an adult just because she feels she is not getting respect? REALLY? LOL

I would expect my child to come straight to me if they thought my SO was disrespecting and I would handle it.

Thats a horrible story

I cant believe he found another woman to marry him with all of THAT family drama goin on

And “THIS SH*T RITE HERE NUCCA” is why alot of women dnt want to date men with kids

I think you need to seriously look outside your obsession with your daughter and look at this single father who desires companionship. If this female has a problem with his disrespectful child, then most likely so will the next woman. Maybe this dude isn’t superman like you who only needs the love of his child to survive. Maybe he is human and actually desires female companionship from someone he isn’t related to. Oh the horror!?!?!?!?!?!

He needs to deal with the child no matter what…whether this woman is with him or not.

I don’t think the woman is asking the man to choose. I think she is asking the man to handle the situation.

The problem is, people should discuss these things before they get in relationships. I know what I can and cannot do with my bf’s kids. You need to have discussions about discipline, schedules, etc.. You can’t just throw a person into this situation and hope for the best.

And children younger than 14 have incredible power and it’s not just a matter of the adult being insecure. As I said earlier, a therapist told my boyfriend that his 10 year old daughter has the power to destroy our relationship and told him to get things under control. It had nothing to with any adult insecurities.

I have a stepmother and she is the spawn of Satan.

He should have addressed it immediately and it would have been nice if he had the girl apologize so at least his girlfriend would know he addressed it. That would have done wonders for the situation. It would have sent a message to the girl to stop being disrespectful and sent a message to the girlfriend that her feelings are a consideration.

But let me guess, that’s an awful solution because that would be too much for the daughter to handle right?

I know this situation lets me appreciate my bf that much more. He respects me and the things I do for his children and therefore tries his best to make sure his kids do the same. And guess what? He still manages to love his children with all his heart. SHOCKING!

I don’t date women with kids and my planner stay on swole.

Why wouldn’t black men have dates? There’s tons of black women, asian women, latino women.. hell there’s tons of women period with no kids out there.

Im sure she was “mean” 2 u bcuz she felt like u AND ur mtr were competition & were out to destroy her marriage.

Children grow up and if you allow them to dominate your life and not set them straight , you will be alone once the child grows. This sounds nice but children need to be corrected. Also, adults have feelings too.

Maybe she does have a heart, does not excuse the child’s and the parent’s behavior.

I have seen things from the prospective of both the daughter and the new woman. This is where a man needs to successfully manage the relationships between the two. I don’t think I would date someone with a child- don’t like drama.

by the tone of the letter, the woman sounds selfish.
which is normal for single people…not necessarily bad or good…it just is what it is….

i’ve noticed that many men and women who have no children of their own don’t understand the parent/child bond.

i’m not saying she’s wrong for her feelings… i’m just saying single people need to keep that in mind when dating single parents.

…or don’t date them at all.

Sounds like you’re pathetic enough to compete with a kid- you’re already crazy

You’re absolutely right!!

The positive thing about this article is that there are many black men that are raising their children on their own.

Awhile ago, I was looking through my personal files that we keep on our employees, coupled with the proud displays and comments that men said about their children, I learned that there is a high amount of single parent fathers with sole custody of their children where I work!

PREACH it Rev. Giddy!

Wake up! ….two words Gods order. Your husband and wife come first after God. It’s so easy to tell all the bitter persons who are babymommas and men who made poor choices when it came to laying their seeds out of deadlock..because they are bashing this woman. Cleave to your wife not your child.when he is old and babymommas are old and have no spouses they will guilt these selfish kids into caring for them in return the favor of putting the child first their entire life. This is why ghetto black men have no wives because of their jealous needy mothers who feel they owe their lives to them. It’s a vicious cycle stop it and get the order right. Get the child some counseling to help with her needyiness issues so everyone can have a life…babymommas the anger needs to stop against the new woman….if you were all that he would have married you and your child would be a joy! Get your anger down and your parenting skills up. Please too many dysfunctional youths from single unwed mothers……the children are suffering.

Parents can be jealous of their OWN kids. Mama’s being mad that the dad spends to much time with kids & vice versa

So, if a mother or father can be jealous, imagine an outside entity.

Parents “hide yo kids” cuz everything that glitters aint gold. Protect them & NEVER let d*ck or pu$$y influence ur decisions

The problem is HIS daughter will win!! What do you think he will do, put her in a foster home?? I can respect that she doesn’t normally date men with children, she should have stood fast in that belief. She would want to cut and run now before she gets further involved with him. Dont take this reply the wrong way, I’m not saying this with ill intent, she just cant win in this situation. At the same time he is only doing what women have been doing since the beginning of time. Its just sad that I have to give him a round of applause for doing EXACTLY what he should be doing, but he deserves it.

I like this different viewpoint

Sorry but thats why you get married and then have children to avoid the chances of this bs. If my husband told me that the children I gave him are more important than me and the vows we made I would have him seek help! We are one and theses kids arent gonna stay around forever, I love my children but I love my husband first .

Cut your loses and move on to a man who doesn’t have children. U have to love or accept the child as well as him and if it’s not easy or instantaneous then don’t waste your time

Bottom Line: NEVER lower ur standards. If ur “rules” were to never d8 sum1 with kids, u shoulda trusted in a higher power to fulfill ur desire. But, u allowed loneliness & sexual desire to set in & make u change ur mind. That lil voice (intuition) had u make the decision to d8 single men with no kids 4 a reason, probably bcuz u are selfish & are set in ur ways & dnt know how to negotiate or compromise. NOW U KNOW to stick with ur previous rules & never try dating sum1 with kids again.

@BILLIONS Shut your a$$ up. How do u have a wife and u’re going out on dates. I hope your wife is dating as well. I hope u don’t mind some dude doing that to your daughter that u love oh so much

I can totally relate because I was in a situation in which I really wanted to get to know this guy. He was well educated, hard-working, and mannerable, but his daughter was just too much for me. I’m not gonna call her evil, but lets just say I figured out why he was such a great guy but was still single.

you are WRONG!!! You should never put anyone but God before you wife. and that includes children.

sorry but husband and wife are ONE! and that means your child is second. It does not mean neglect your child or abuse them but it means WIFE IS FIRST.

your going about it the wrong way, and not doing what God has intended. If your wife saw that comment you made she leave you.

You don’t deserve to be married if that is how you think.

A product from a single parent father I can say that some of you woman have no clue what your talking about or just dont CHOOSE to open your eyes. I can identify with the little girl. The bond between a father and daughter is an unbreakable one. When you two are all you have you tend to look out and want nothing but the best for each other. There were plenty of women who tried the ‘score’ my father when I was coming up and after a while you get used to it and figure they wont stick around, and soon you start weeding them out because you’ve been hurt by the first ones that didnt stick around. It’s a case of abandonment issues and self protection. If she really wanted it to work it’s not that hard but it is work. You have to show the girl that your trying to be apart of her life if not then it will get worse to point where her father will either drop you because his daughter is unhappy or because he’s just plain embarrassed by the way she’s acting towards you, trust me I know..especially about the latter lol

this woman sounds very selfish & self centered.. if I was this man, I would dump this chic.. for real! Any woman who doesn’t care to much for your child & she’s dating you, is a accident waiting to happen. If she can’t deal with the daughter, she definetly can’t deal with the babys mama. And 9 times out of 10, if the child doesn’t like the new boyfriend/girlfriend..you will end up having problems with the babys mama. no child cares for a step parent..& women are emotional. So to be a woman in a relationship with a man with a child, who doesn’t like you & a babys mama who you have to see sometimes, because of the child– will make a woman emotionally unstable– because she’s not going to feel important to her man in that relationship.

wjen it comes down to it: he will choose his daughter if his girlfriend doesn’t grow up & see the big picture. This woman is not ready fir a family at all, because she’s too selfish & self centered.

I am a 20yr old female,and as a child i was daddy’s lil girl well until he began dating a woman who eventually became the mother to his second daughter,my sister.Though i didn’t like the idea of my father dating i was never disrespectful to his girlfriend.I was only 9yrs old when they began dating and when she gave birth to my sister,and though i didn’t like the idea of her having my father’s child or me not being the only child anymore,i accepted and loved my sister,but My ‘Stepmother’ made me and my dad’s relationship very awkward,she began saying my dad showed favoritism towards me,which he did Not,and began complaining to my father’s family saying i didn’t respect her,which was not true,it’s true that i did not like her,because she literally took my daddy away from me,but i hardly said anything to this woman and this went on for a course of ten years and about five years into their relationship she had my father right where she wanted him,they moved out of state,we no longer talked on the phone,like he wouldn’t call me at ALL,we hardly saw one another,even when they did move back in town,and it took a toll on me,I Hated Him,I felt as if he was less of a man to let some woman come between us.I finally had enough and i reached out to him and told him how i felt,he apologized but disappeared yet again,this back and forth went on constantly,and it really pissed my mother off,because my mother never got involved with the women my father dated and never has denied him to see me,but it hurt her to see what he was allowing to happen.As i grew older i would just try to block it out i’d still put in effort to take my sister,who adored me, places. but nothing was enough.Recently He and his baby’s mother broke up and my father was in the best place of his life,going to church,spending time with both of his kids,had a good job,and i just knew it was back to how it used to be until he met another woman,and i didn’t even get a phone call for my 20th birthday.So it’s hard having to share your mother or father with a man or woman,so out of respect the man or woman coming into the relationship should put forth effort to get to know the child in the relationship, i understand some kids will be purposely disrespectful,but not all kids are like that if given the attention and respect they deserve.and any woman that sits back and allows a man to neglect his child just to give her attention isn’t a woman at all.

@ anonymous
I was an stepmother of three with 4 of my on and I my step kids never had anything bad to say about me as a matter of fact they always wanted to be at our home. It’s not always the step”s in my case it was there father.

I have been in this situation before. His daughter was 11 years old, she lived with him. Her Mom was not really in the picture.Once his daughter was sick with a cold and she wanted to sleep in her father’s bed! Talk about spoiled! I was involved with him for years and it had been little things here and there that annoyed me about the girl, but when she wanted to sleep in his bed, it was obviously a ploy to get me out of the way. I did not like the little girl and i dont care if she was just a kid. Some people you will like and others you will not. Honestly after that situation, I have decided that i will not date men with children. He was the first man i ever dated with kids and it was a headache!

Honestly the woman needs to stand her ground and not be miffed over something as small as that cuz if that girl really had malicious intentions I’m certain she could’ve come up with something far worse-I don’t think the woman has issues I just think she’s insecure cuz the lil girl would get ignored

No it doesn’t I’m an ex wife and I did not care to deal with my x husband’s females-it sounds like a bored lil girl who was being stupid

One of the great double-standards of society. It is OK for women to say they won’t date a man with kids, but if a man says the same, here comes the rolling necks.

But anyhow, everyone is wrong. The daughter is wrong for not being in a child’s place, the father is wrong for not stepping in and appropriately addressing the issue, and discipling the child, and the woman is clearly wrong for wanting the girl to “disappear” (we all know that’s what she wants). To be honest, men don’t always feel like dealing with Ray Ray’s son when we enter into a relationship where there are kids. But you can’t wish away children… they need love, support, and guidance. This lady doesn’t seem to be willing to commit to that approach, so she should definitely leave.

I don’t understand how some of these women making comments that they(wife/girlfriend) should come before a man’s child. Think,what if your father put a woman before you. This man loves his child enough to have full custody and is a single parent handlin his biz doing what a real father should do. and the nerve of ya’ll to say you don’t date a man with kids, but ya’ll out here crying that there arent any good blackmen out here. well thats why, because you pass on the ones taking responsibility and being a good father and a provider for his child. Isn’t that a good man and someone that deserves a chance. but ya’ll women go and date a drug dealer, thug, woman beater before dating someone thats a stand up guy. I swear you women don’t know what you want??? make up your mind. As a father of a beautiful little girl that means the world to me, I would never, ever, ever,ever ever!!! put a woman before her. so tell me if I’m wrong but isn’t that want a father suppose to do??

In my opinion she should probably try some one on one time with the child and see what’s going on with her… thinking that she could come between a father and child is just crazy, me being a woman i would NEVER think or try to do something like that. and if nothing changes she should move on. she signed up for a package deal, it’s not just her and him it’s her him and his world (his child).

Uhhh, the issue if related to this article is that they’ve only been dating for 5 months. That hardly qualifies this relationship as marriage-ready. Especially being that she has issues with this man’s permanent party, daughter of 1.

The woman goes, the daughter stays. Hope he enjoyed the azz while it was there.

I agree

Exactly capria30. She failed horribly!!!

Actually, I know plenty of men who refuses to date women who are single parents. And I also have heard this same thing from several other men.

I wonder if the commentators’ opinions would change if genders were reversed: if the LW was a man and the single parent was a woman.

I guess I am the only one who thinks this 14 year old is wrong as hell. True, blood is thicker than water, but Dad needs a life too, and she is almost grown. Her trying to sabotage her fathers love life is a sign of being a spoiled little brat and needs to be checked for it.

What is wrong with the lil girl sleeping in her daddy’s bed?! I dnt see anythg wrong with that

By the way, I have a daughter as well but I NEVER bring a man around my daughter and will never unless I know he is the absolute ONE. She knows that I date and has no problem with it.I dedicate a lot of time to my daughter. My child is a straight A student, involved in extra curricular activities and has a great relationship with her father. He dates as well. She sees it and understands that parents need a life too.I am not going to turn into a nun and shut the world out just because you don’t want to see me with someone else.

And she don’t have to take that girl out to dinner or any of that mess. Be real.

You sound jaded I mean his daughter was sick and her momz not in the pic she wanted to be comforted good thing you are out of their lives—

Damn chill no need to call her names Good GAWD

I dnt agree w/ the advice given at all!! Yes she should not have said she didn’t like the child. But! she should talk to her man let him know how she feels. Dnt confront the child! Let him do the talkin! Its his kid! Its his responsibility to enforce the rules and put HIS kid in their place! Don’t go out of ur way trying to make a relationship w/ this kid takn them to get nails & feet done for what? Ur not the mother! The man should sit dwn w/ HIS kid and discuss w/ his daughter the new relationship and how much he respects, cares and loves this woman and that she is a child and as his child she needs to respect him and ANY guest he invites to his home! No arguing no deep thinkn. Parents need to start discussing w/ their kids about relationships and dating particularly single parents. It teaches kids how to have healthy relationships especially single dads talkn to their daughters about love and respect. His daughter may have a new found respect for her dad and this new woman after he talks to her. But it lies w/ him only! If he isnt man enough to stand up to a 14 year old kid then he aint man enough to be ur man.

@ bootylish she was sick whats wrong with that and she’s eleven not 17.

First off why are you calling a child names, you dont know the whole story only what this woman is telling get help.

Probably

@ Oh Please TOTAL agreement. thank you.

Now alot of you on here leaving comments and i think are a lil over the top. you can judge her bc of the way she feels. i am a parent of 3 and i can understand where she is coming from when saying what she’s saying. maybe using the word hate is a lil too much, but i completely understand her point. The girl is almost grown and should have other things on her mind and not trying to mess up dads personal life. there is nothing wrong with daddy having a life of his own at this point in his life and the daughter should understand that and respect that. I would probably think otherwise if she was still a child….The daughter is acting childish and the father shouldn’t be tolerating those kind of games. As her father he should sit her down and let her know that no woman would ever take her place in his heart or life, but what she is and has been doing is wrong. He doesn’t have to wait until his daughter is fully grown and out of his house to be able to date and have a relationship with someone. I wouldn’t dare put someone before my children, but i also know where to draw the line when it comes to my children behaving like they have no home trainging and respect for another person. And by reading the article that’s what i got from it…The daughter has a lack of respect for adults and her father needs to step up….especially at her age. Dont get it twisted though, bc i feel like the woman can also step up to the plate and let the man kno she’s serious about the relationship and put things on blast. Let em know how you feel and maybe the 3 of you can sit and talk and come to some understanding. Try taking the daughter out and have a talk with her 1 on 1. Give her the chance to understand that you arent wanting to take her place and you want to, and are willing to be a part of her life too. I dont think this is a situation that can be solved by just sitting down and talkin. But it def wont get fixed by you hating, avoiding, or just giving her the cold shoulder. The adults need to act like the adults and maybe then will the kid act like the kid

so true so true so true!!!!!!!!

omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i had the same problem, but not when she’s ‘sick’. all the time –

@ cornbread – 11 years old is the onset of puberty, when children start becoming sexualized adults, & start forming sexual preferences – NOT a good idea to be sharing the parental bed @ this point.

@ all.

period.

YUP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Evette!! Finally someone with some sense!

Um, but YOU invited her in. So that means it’s acceptable for your children to disrespect YOUR decision? You invite her in your life and allow your children to disrespect her and she’s supposed to be cool with that if she wants to be with you? REALLY? Your ego is too huge… you need to be alone

Supper Crazy maybe you’re also doing something the girl doesn’t like have yooh tried getting to know her before yooh called her Evil if not then maybe yooh should doo that Missy<3

Chocolate Thunder Cherry<3

Bottom line is this, people:
A man allows his child to disrespect anyone (girlfriend, wife or otherwise) then he also doesn’t respect her…move around ms. – run like flo jo…click your heels and go home…they are two of a kind…she(the daughter)is being used as the front; but ultimately, he feels the same way.

Please go back to dated men without kids.

My child has a step-something, and she is the most childish thing on the face of this earth.

This trick actually dis-likes my daughter, for wanting to spend more time with her dad. She thinks she needs to go everywhere they go. Or he must be cheating on her.

I don’t like this woman, but thank you God I don’t have to deal with her. She has now driven a wedge between father (no donor) and daughter. My daughter will not even talk to her donor anymore!