Nicca Wants a Timeout, Obama Getting That A*s
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After falling way back in recent polls, the old man wants to call a punk timeout and postpone Friday’s presidential debate:
Republican presidential candidate John McCain announced Wednesday that he is suspending his campaign to return to Washington and focus on the “historic” crisis facing the U.S. economy.
McCain said it was time for both parties to come together to solve economic crisis.
McCain said it was time for both parties to come together to solve economic crisis.
The Arizona senator called on his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, to do the same.
The Obama campaign announced that Obama would make a statement shortly.
McCain also urged that organizers of Friday’s presidential debate at the University of Mississippi to postpone the event. “I am calling on the president to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself,” McCain told reporters in New York. “It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.” Video
You know how they try to change the rules and sh*t when someone starts beating that ass. You know that punk just needs time get his mind right and regroup. SMH.
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That’s a very cheap trick!
Punk!
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See he need to go sit down and shut up!
Like I said the old man has a trick up his sleeve, don’t think for one minute that he’s stalling for the economy, wonder what he’s up to?..I guess we’ll soon find out.
Your an ***** Bossip. Perhaps there’s a bigger picture than the polls. Maybe the financial crisis that your party had a major hand in creating is more important that a debate that can be rescheduled. They scheduled the vote for Friday evening, each Senate member has a DUTY to be there. Not just vote but to *****ist in working out the details. Anyway, Foreign Policy is McCain’s strong suit. He’d mop BO up on that topic, why would he run from it? Let’s get real people. This was a stand up thing to do and very irresponsible for BO not to be there for the MOST important legislative decision of our natural lifetime.
McCain just wants to get his geography right-he wanted to make sure he didn’t get lost on his way to Mississippi.
@ the offical Mr. T
LOL! You will always be somebody!
Wanted to make sure he could spell Mississippi and find it on a map. Idiot.
He aint ready. I bet he have another m*****ive attack on BO right before this “rescheduled” debate. How is a 2 hour debate going to effect the good or bad of this economic crisis???
Edited: You’re an ***** Bossip. Perhaps there is a bigger picture than the polls. Maybe the financial crisis that your party had a major hand in creating is more important than a debate that can be rescheduled. They scheduled the vote for Friday evening, each Senate member has a DUTY to be there. Not just vote but to *****ist in working out the details. Anyway, Foreign Policy is McCain’s strong suit. He’d mop BO up on that topic, why would he run from it? Lets get real people. This was a stand up thing to do and very irresponsible for BO not to be there for the MOST important legislative decision of our natural lifetime.
***** wants to steal some ideas from obama then use them in the debate
Old ***** is probably just too dumb to realize what day it is. He probably thinks it’s Thursday…senile *****.
I wouldn’t excuse him, that’s exactly why he doesn’t need to be president..He has NO idea of what’s going on…The debate should still go on, McSame’s reason is not acceptable….He’s just majorly losing..when it was the other way..all they could do is rub it in…Well, well,well..I cant wait for election day…
lol..timeout he is tired!
He needs to brush up on his economics! lol
I just watched a live feed of Obama’s press conference. Basically, he said “wherever they need me 2 b, I’ll b there, but I’m still planning 2 debate on Friday.”
He also said (paraphrased) “Presidents will b expected 2 do several things at once… we both have big planes with our logos on the side, so getting 2 Mississippi shouldn’t b a problem 4 either of us.”
Why can’t they do both?? Or make the vote earlier or later? So this is the Senate and the President, they make and change laws, but can’t change a voting session??
It doesn’t matter whether it’s post-poned or not. The results will still be the same…….He knows he can’t handle OBAMA when it comes to a debate so I personally think it’s a ploy. Why does he want to make it a point NOW to be there for this meeting? Something just don’t smell right
whats his old ***** gonna do for the economic crisis?? He doesnt have a position of power to change anything neither does Obama so why he acting like a superhero who has to leave and put his cape on and save the world or some *****?? Cool down old head we know the real reason is that soccer mom MILF VP you chose doesnt have her cue cards in order
I agree with Jsky…..I think it shoul dbe halted so that they can deal with this financial situation.
Mcain is looking like a real bytch right now.
Talking bout timeout for the sake of the economy.. fool they got people on that already.. you need to get someone to help you on your campaign..
But trust when I say this.. this fool has a trick up his sleeve.. hopefully the BO team want bite on this.. this is WAR.. he’s just trying to bait Obama right now so he can run his game.
I say Obama should still go ahead with the debate because if the shoe was on the other foot the McCain camp would show him no mercy..McLame is only stalling to plan a counter attack.
Who the hell does McCain think he is and Obama said McCain called him and they were jointly going to make a statement then the old fart makes his own announcement. He is a old punk the only thing he has going for him is that he was a POW, but in my mind POW as it relates to McCain mean PUNY OLD WHITEY.
@ Always knew
u r correct, when the Palin selection came out, she herself basically said “he must b sorry he didn’t pick Hillary.” Now that the Palin ploy has run out of gas, and the country is realizing we’re on the verge of a depression, the Mummy wants 2 stall so he can try 2 pull another rabbit out of his @$$.
lol jason on point there mayne what he gon do?
And don’t you find it really funny that a black man is about to become president of the United States and the economy is taking serious nose dive??
Don’t trust them.. that mantra is still the same.. the seal and the constition clearly states that this was a country for white people, by white people, natives and blacks were to be teh burden barers of the real citizens of this nation.
***** wants to steal some ideas from obama then use them in the debate
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@Maaly
Hey fam… It’s funny you say that… When I listened to his speech at the Republican Convention, I was like = damn Homey, you stealing more talking points & ideas from Obama than Jay-Z be stealing lines from old Biggie Songs…
John McSame is an old scary cat. I say they should put a dummy in McCain’s Place at the debate it’ll be just like he’s there. One more time scary cat, scary cat!
Barack responds: He thinks the candidates can be constructive in helping with this crisis AND still continue with the debate to discuss their positions.
Based on Obama’s chronology, he and McCain discussed a joint statement, McCain mentioned going to Washington and seemed to be mulling over pulling out of the debate, but was not decisive about his plans. Obama then finds out what McCain planned via the press conference that McCain held.
Obama says he is talking to the Congressional leadership all day, around the clock and told them…
“If I can be helpful, I’m prepared to be any where any time”.
LOL, Obama can multitask…can old man McSame?!?!
He got the new poll numbers today that say Obama is up 10 points on his ***** and his pride wont let him handle it. Obama has proven you cant break him Mccain cant find anyway to beat him.
Obama 08
My bad…
The talking points McCain stole from Obama = change, getting lobbyiest out of Washington, I work for the people of America, etc…
“Can anybody step in for this guy? Anybody? For Mr. Mother*****ing March of Dimes? “
Full speed ahead, Obama. Don’t let him get outta this. It’s called multi-tasking, McCain. See ya at the debates!
Talking bout timeout for the sake of the economy.. fool they got people on that already.. you need to get someone to help you on your campaign..
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@***** Deep
EXACTLY I AGREE!
McCain can still debate and work on the ecomony what a dumb *****, the debate is only for one night you don’t need to cancel an entire scheduled event..This is a desperate attempt to show the American people that he cares or he has some kind of insight about the ecomony which he clearly does not.
@just Sit
Well said,but I just like calling him an old scary cat.
[Mummy McCain on an emergency phone call 2 Dubya]
Hey, George, I’m trying 2 stall 4 time… can u hook a brother up with a war or terrorist attack or something? Tell me u got an October surprise 4 me.
see Keating FIve and you will know on why McCain is nervoso
All this he won’t debate me, he won’t debate me, I wanna debate, I wanna debate…
Then when the time comes for the first debate you wanna “postpone” it = GET THE F#CK OUTTA HERE!!!
This old geritol adult diaper wearing mother f#cker needs to drive him and his “straight talk” express greyhound bus to a retirement community in Florida and chill…
How you gonna run for President just because it’s on your “bucket list” of things to do before you die?
I agree, McSame has is trying to stall. You cant divert attention from people and their money, let alone their lively hood. It was cute to have Palin prance around talking about Hockey Mom, Pitbulls, and Liptstick but times have change. People need someone who can act,and will be ready for the challenge and not hide behind ploys and tatics. It astounds me that the American people dont see through this. If we have Bernaket and Paulson on this tip, then what is a stalled debate really going to do for the Economy. For real, enough is enough. If Obama does not win it is truly because this country is not ready for BLACK MAN in office. SHAMLESS!
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CAN’T HANDLE A NEGRO GETTING ELECTED!
McCain can’t multi-task?? He hasn’t been up on the Hill since April. GTFOH!! Obama ‘08!!
This clearly shows how McCain can’t handle multiple task. He could easily debate on Friday, and still *****ist Washington during this crisis. This is the time when we need to hear what McCain/Obama’s plans are for this country. I really commend Obama for taking a higher moral ground, and telling America that the time is now that we need to hear how he plans to fix this historic problem.
what baby
More direct quotes from our next President…
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“Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time,” he said, “it is not necessary for us to think we can do only one thing and suspend everything else.”
Expressing concern about infusing “Capitol Hill with presidential politics,” Obama said it was his desire to see the debate go forward.
“With respect to the debates it is my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who in roughly 40 days will be responsible for this mess,” he said. “I think it is going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once. I don’t see why we can’t be constructive in helping with this problem.”
what a baby
They don’t need McCain’s wrinkly ***** up in Washington. They can campaign and work on this dumb***** bailout. This financial mess has been unfolding for a YEAR now! Pul-eeze.
NEW YORK – Republican John McCain said Wednesday that he wants to postpone Friday’s debate to deal with the nation’s financial problems, but Democrat Barack Obama said “it’s more important than ever” that the country hear from its next president.
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The White House rivals maneuvered to claim the leadership role on the financial crisis that has overshadowed their campaign, leaving the question of whether they will hold their first debate in doubt. Obama said he would continue ahead with his debate preparations, while McCain said he would stop all advertising, fundraising and other campaign events to return to Washington and work for a bipartisan solution.
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess,” Obama said at a news conference in Clearwater, Fla. “It’s going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once.”
Their dueling positions came after the two senators spoke privately, each trying to portray himself as the bipartisan leader at a time of crisis.
But McCain beat Obama to the punch with the first public statement, saying the Bush administration’s Wall Street $700 billion bailout proposal seemed headed for defeat and a bipartisan solution was urgently needed. If not, McCain said ominously, credit will dry up, people will no longer be able to buy homes, life savings will be at stake and businesses will not have enough money to pay workers.
“It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the administration’s proposal,” McCain said. “I do not believe that the plan on the table will p***** as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.”
McCain said he had spoken to President Bush and asked him to convene a leadership meeting in Washington that would include him and Obama.
Even as McCain said he was putting the good of the country ahead of politics, his surprise announcement was clearly political. It was an attempt to try to out-maneuver Obama on an issue he’s trailing on, the economy, as the Democrat gains in polls. He swiftly went before TV cameras minutes after speaking with Obama and before the two campaigns had hammered out a joint statement expressing that Congress act urgently on the bailout.
And while McCain’s campaign said he would “suspend” his campaign, it simply will move to Washington knowing the spotlight will remain on him no matter where he is.
Obama repeatedly stressed at his news conference that he called McCain first to propose that they issue a joint statement in support of a package to help fix the economy as soon as possible. He said McCain called back several hours later, as Obama was leaving a rally in Florida, and agreed to the idea of a statement but also said he wanted to postpone the debate and hold joint meetings in Washington.
Obama said he suggested they first issue a joint statement showing bipartisanship.
“When I got back to the hotel, he had gone on television to announce what he was going to do,” Obama said.
Maybe McCain is scared that whatever decisions that will be made without him there will take money out of his pocket and we know that can’t happen
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I love this because now the ball is in McCain’s court and if he doesn’t follow through with the debate, he really does look inept!!
LOL, I bet McCain’s strategists are now scrambling trying to figure out their next move.
JSkyy,
Obama just held a conference and said that he initiated a call to McCain this morning and said they (dems/repubs) need to come together and appoint a commission to oversee this bailout. He suggested that McCain and Obama make a “joint” announcement regarding this. Instead McCain puts out a statement giving the appearance that this was his idea and individuals like you *****ume Obama is being irresponsible. Listen to both sides before drawing a conclusion.
MCCAIN IS THE MAN! YES WE CAN!
Beat his ***** Barak!!! I’m trying to vote early so that I won’t have to take off and vote later!!! Obama Bomaye!!! Obama Bomaye!!!
I was looking so forward to that debate. Oh well guest i’ll have to find something else to do. Thanks alot Scary Cat a.k.a. McCain. What a big disappointment.
the old man should be ashamed of himself. what kind of soldier is he?
i was really looking forward to the debate too! I was planning my whole Friday around it. I need to get a life.
The Presidential Debate Commission is moving forward with its plan for the debate on Friday night. Hmmm, what will old man McCain do?
if mccain was so concerned about the economic crisis, why didn’t he put the debate and his campaign on hold on the day that the $700b bailout was announced? Oh, I forgot those poll numbers just came out and mccain is running scared. plus, i believe that washington and wall street can handle the crisis for a couple of hours while mccain and obama debate. what’s next, if the financial crisis continue I guess we won’t have an election this year either. mccain is more of the same!
DON’T WORRY PEOPLE, THIS IS JUST PART OF MCCAIN’S BRILLIANT PLAN!
McCain is inching real close to a Ho-Sit-Down.
YAHOO IS REPORTING THAT BARACK HAS REJECTED MCCAINS DEBATE DELAY.
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NEW YORK – Republican John McCain said Wednesday that he wants to postpone Friday’s debate to deal with the nation’s financial problems, but Democrat Barack Obama said “it’s more important than ever” that the country hear from its next president.
The White House rivals maneuvered to claim the leadership role on the financial crisis that has overshadowed their campaign, leaving the question of whether they will hold their first debate in doubt. Obama said he would continue ahead with his debate preparations, while McCain said he would stop all advertising, fundraising and other campaign events to return to Washington and work for a bipartisan solution.
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess,” Obama said at a news conference in Clearwater, Fla. “It’s going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once.”
Hannibal is that you pictured above with your favorite candidate
LMFAO!
LETS KEEP IT SIMPLE!! OLD DOG IS SCARED!!
Honestly, what is more important, debates or the economy?
I smell okey-doke afoot, people. When Sarah “Moosehunter” Palin gave him a bump in the polls a few weeks ago, he was calling Obama out for a showdown like he was in a Wild West movie. Obama got in that ***** in the polls, now he wants to address the economy. They call actions like that “*****made” where I come from.
Like Obama said they each have planes. There’s no excuse. They’ve been flying to 2 and 3 states in a day, why not now? McCain, go take a s*** cause that’s what you’re full of!
Wow. This is a straight bytch move. So I guess he thinks he can solve the economic crisis by Friday. Then he’s gonna flip it and try to make Barack look bad for not doing the same thing. I thought at the very least this dude was supposed to be some tough war hero dude. Now I see he’s shook.
McShame: WE WILL NOT TOLERATE NO**********NESS
Honestly, what is more important, debates or the economy?
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@dubya
Why can’t they debate and talk about the economy, that’s what a debate is for.
All you people need to remember that McCain has been chasing Barack for months to have a debate…He’s not dodging him but I think the ecomnomy is more important than a debate right now.
@ Dubya,
They can still have the debate, it ain’t like the economy would be any less *****ed up if they didn’t.
Doesn’t matter. Obama is ready for him.
@ Cash Rules
Correction he’s been chasing him to do townhall meetings not debates.
but they will be debating…on the floor of the Senate. McCain wants to POSTPONE the debates not CANCEL them. Big difference.
At this point, a presidential debate on foreign policy is just not that important and if you think it is, you have NO idea about the magnitude of what is going on with our economy.
The election will take care of who will step in and lead our country, right now, McCain and Obama are just two senators who need to do their jobs.
MCCAAIN is soo full of *****….as for you DUBYA why are you even on this site?
why all of a sudden does this piece of chalk Mccain give a damn about the economy? if he was ahead in the polls it would be business as ususal and we all know that……………
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@ Cash Rules
Correction he’s been chasing him to do townhall meetings not debates.
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not a real difference between townhall meetings and debates, in both venues, candidates hash out their plans for the country–the only MAJOR difference is that most town hall meetings are not televised.
Which one of yiu conspiracist blacks are gonna say…The ilumanati is controlling the Federal Reserves to mislead destroy the market so Barak can get into office and correct it? Cause thats not the truth!
why not, lanette? I must have missed the part that said I needed to agree with you to post here.
For all of you who say that we black people are not monolithic, you sure don’t have much tolerance for a differing opinion.
Wow…just another reason for me NOT to like this old man. I was hosting a debate party, too!!!!
WE ALSO NEED TO REMEMBER THAT HE’S OLD AND CAN’T DEAL WITH STRESS TOO WELL….HE MIGHT HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR STROKE OR SOMETHING
@JSkyy(Check me out!)
Your an ***** Bossip. Perhaps there’s a bigger picture than the polls. Maybe the financial crisis that your party had a major hand in creating is more important that a debate that can be rescheduled. They scheduled the vote for Friday evening, each Senate member has a DUTY to be there. Not just vote but to *****ist in working out the details. Anyway, Foreign Policy is McCain’s strong suit. He’d mop BO up on that topic, why would he run from it? Let’s get real people. This was a stand up thing to do and very irresponsible for BO not to be there for the MOST important legislative decision of our natural lifetime.
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McCain has missed Senate votes during other national crises, natural disasters, etc. So why would he rush back for this one?
Just like he chartered jets to help people during Gustav, but now that his convention isn’t happening, has he, or the Hensley family, reached out to help the victims of Ike. Who, in that area, are very staunch GOP supporters?
It’s all a matter of timing and convenience. It’s easier to avoid a debate about topics than to show up for the photo ops at the vote.
And if you think he really cares about the future of America and its banking institutions, read about the Keating 5. He and his wife (who has let us know she’s always been proud to be an American) had a great hand in that scandal.
@Dubya-
McCain, nor his campaign, have actually opened avenues for a real town hall, as much as he runs around saying that Obama has turned him down, it’s not 100% true. Obama wants a fair platform, just as if he suggested the same of McCain. That has been said on the record more than once. GOP members have even “slipped up” and leaked info on the conditions and things John McCain wants.
Many Repubs are turning on McCain/Palin, the powers that be (who want McCain to win) know that unconditional town halls will hurt him. It was predicted he’d find a way to dodge debates about a month ago.
So seeing this come to fruition is very interesting.
@ WhatsYoursIsMine
Well put! I like how *****ODY else seems to bring up the Keating 5 credit scandal.
@JSkyy…why do you seem to think John McSame would “mop Obama up” on foreign policy? Have you not heard that Obama’s VP is Mr. foreign poilcy?
Is it a coincidence that the economy is at it’s absolute worse right here before a black man is soooo close to taking office? Could it be that this was all planned once it was realized that Obama actual had a chance so that it will look like once he got into office, he couldn’t handle everything as far as the war, the economy, foreign policy, etc, so that in the next election, they will be like see yall put him in there and he couldn’t CHANGE so now lets put a republican back in office. It seems like a setup in more ways than one
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@Dubya-
McCain, nor his campaign, have actually opened avenues for a real town hall, as much as he runs around saying that Obama has turned him down, it’s not 100% true. Obama wants a fair platform, just as if he suggested the same of McCain. That has been said on the record more than once. GOP members have even “slipped up” and leaked info on the conditions and things John McCain wants.
Many Repubs are turning on McCain/Palin, the powers that be (who want McCain to win) know that unconditional town halls will hurt him. It was predicted he’d find a way to dodge debates about a month ago.
So seeing this come to fruition is very interesting.
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I never said anything about a town hall. I was just explaining that there is not much difference between a town hall and a debate.
Please post your links where “many republicans are turning on McCain/Palin.” I have not seen/heard that one. As it stands, McCain/Palin have acquired a large portion of staunch conservatives that were planning to sit this election out due to McCain but now feel invigorated due to the choice of Palin.
Again, please forward links,
Thanks.
It’s not leadership when you drop EVERYTHING to run back to Washington and sit in a room waiting to have an opportunity for talking points. Is he on the Senate Oversight Committee or something? No. Is he on any panel or financial committee in the Senate? No. Why does he want to go to Washington? To get the Cliff Notes on finance and reform? As of this time last week he was still saying the economy was fundamentally strong!
Somebody is off their Meds!
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Palin is in New York taking a crash course in foreign relations and foreign policy (probably using Cliff Notes written by Kissinger) by meeting leaders (out of the media’s sight) so she can look at baby pictures, coo at family photos, and get her flirt on!
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@ WhatsYoursIsMine
Well put! I like how *****ODY else seems to bring up the Keating 5 credit scandal.
@JSkyy…why do you seem to think John McSame would “mop Obama up” on foreign policy? Have you not heard that Obama’s VP is Mr. foreign poilcy?
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Yes, but Biden is not debating, the debate will be between McCain and Obama.
@Dubya-
Wall Street Journal Blogs:
September 24, 2008, 4:43 pm
Palin Ratings Take a Hit Back Home
Jim Carlton reports on the presidential race.
Gov. Sarah Palin may be packing in the crowds in the Lower 48, but back home in Alaska her once-stratospheric popularity ratings are coming back to earth.
Her positive rating in Alaska fell to 68% this week from 82% on Sept. 2, shortly after Republican presidential hopeful John McCain named her as his running mate, according to a survey of likely voters by Anchorage pollster Ivan Moore. It’s the biggest dip since the Republican governor was elected in late 2006, and is especially precipitous among two voter groups: Democrats, where the number of likely voters who view her positively has plunged to 36% from 60% in three weeks, and independents, where her positives have dropped to 64% from 82% over the same time. Alaska Republicans still give Palin a nearly perfect positive rating of 93%.
Moore attributes the fall-off in support to several factors, particularly her shift to partisan attacks against Democrats and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama after hitting the campaign trail early this month. Alaskans have also begun to grouse about Palin’s role in Troopergate, the scandal involving her alleged attempts to get a former brother-in-law fired from his job as a state trooper, as well as the increased presence of McCain operatives throughout the state since she was named to the ticket.
“Everyone likes Sarah, but now we are wondering what we thought she was actually is what she was,” Moore said.
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It’s not leadership when you drop EVERYTHING to run back to Washington and sit in a room waiting to have an opportunity for talking points. Is he on the Senate Oversight Committee or something? No. Is he on any panel or financial committee in the Senate? No. Why does he want to go to Washington? To get the Cliff Notes on finance and reform? As of this time last week he was still saying the economy was fundamentally strong!
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Right. It’s called doing your job. Both Obama and McCain are senators FIRST, presidential candidates second.
so do you think Obama and Biden ignore one another and dont prep and discuss these types of things? One of the main reasons he chose Biden was because he could learn from his Foreign policy background THINK!
Obama ALONE can handle foreign relations. he is the only one who is willing to speak with world leaders that this current administration and John McCain refuses to talk to. Not to mention, Obama is FAR MORE RELATABLE!
OMBAMA IS STILL GONNA DEBATE, MCCAIN MUST THANK WE DUMB AS HELL THAT OL NICCA SCARED DON’T CRY BOUT ECONOMY NO ***** E SAID IT WAS STRONG NOW YOU WANNA HELP OL FART.
I can find you more tomorrow. I have to go because our utility people have come to fix a pipe that burst under our building.
But you can find it, Dubya. it’s not hard at all.
McCain proposing Oct. 2nd. Trying to negotiate…WTF…quit stalling for time!! Although we know foreign policy was the theme for this debate, obviously they would NOT ignore the financial crisis and that too would be addressed!!
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Thank you for the link! However, what you just posted speaks for the state of Alaska and does not support your statement that “Many republicans are turning on her”. This statement implies that republicans in all 50 states are turning on her and you only cited the case for Alaska.
However, thank you for the link.
I have done my research, I just wanted you to support your claim–which you did not do.
@Dubya
Both Obama and McCain are senators FIRST, presidential candidates second.
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Both men have missed a great deal of work to campaign, but what do you think of this on your good friend McCain (and after this I do need to leave). I always come back and get hooked!
************MCCAIN MISSES VOTE ON ECONOMIC STIMULUS PACKAGE****************
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McCain Misses Vote on Economic Stimulus
LAURIE KELLMAN | February 6, 2008 09:03 PM EST |
WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate John McCain skipped a difficult Senate vote Wednesday on whether to make 20 million seniors and 250,000 disabled veterans eligible for rebate checks as part of a proposed economic stimulus package.
The Arizona senator’s decision to miss the vote appeared to come at the last minute, after his plane had landed at Dulles International Airport outside Washington just before the proceedings opened on the Senate floor.
Asked Wednesday morning to comment on the pending vote, McCain talked about the need to p***** a stimulus measure quickly. Later, on his plane, he said he was not sure he would make the vote.
“I haven’t had a chance to talk about it at all, have not had the opportunity to, even,” McCain said. “We’ve just been too busy, focused on other stuff. I don’t know if I’m doing that. We’ve got a couple of meetings scheduled.”
Whichever way McCain may have voted, it would have been a difficult choice given his status as the Republican presidential front-runner.
Senate Democrats cleverly bundled the rebates for seniors and veterans, key voting blocs, with expanded unemployment benefits and home heating subsidies for the jobless and poor.
President Bush and Republican leaders, as well as conservatives McCain was scheduled to woo on Thursday, vehemently oppose the expanded benefits and subsidies.
That put McCain in a bad political spot.
Voting “no” with Republican leaders would have offended millions of Social Security recipients and the disabled veterans not scheduled to receive rebates. Voting “yes,” on the other hand, risked alienating Bush, GOP leaders and conservatives already suspicious of McCain’s political leanings. McCain was speaking Thursday before a meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, a group that booed him last year in absentia.
For McCain, not voting meant not going on the record either way. He has missed all eight Senate roll call votes this year.
Republicans prevailed in blocking the Democratic proposal, saying they will try again later to include seniors and veterans. GOP leaders would not say how McCain would have voted. Asked whether there was any reason to believe he would have broken with the party and voted for the Democrats’ package, Republican Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona said: “I have no reason to believe that.”
McCain’s absence, he added, would not have changed the outcome of the vote.
There was confusion among McCain’s his staff about whether he would make the vote. Campaign spokeswoman Jill Hazelbaker said when he landed that she believed he was headed to the Capitol to vote, but a second spokeswoman, Brooke Buchanan, said later that he would not make it.
Democrats, including a spokesman for the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, jumped on McCain’s absence. Clinton voted for the measure, which failed on a 58-41 vote. Supporters needed 60 votes to prevail. Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid had voted in favor, but switched it at the last moment in a parliamentary move that allows him to bring up the measure for another vote at a later date.
“By failing to stand up as the deciding vote, John McCain let our families down,” said Clinton aide Phil Singer. “Tonight’s events prove once again that we need a president who will be ready from Day One to act in the interests of middle-cl***** families and turn our ailing economy around.”
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*****ociated Press writers Libby Quaid and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.
****************McCain misses vote on a new GI Bill, scorns criticism from Obama***************
www(dot)boston(dot)com/news/nation/articles/2008/05/23/mccain_misses_vote_on_a_new_gi_bill_scorns_criticism_from_obama/
May 23, 2008
Support for the troops returned as an issue to the presidential campaign yesterday with harsh words from both sides.
The Democratic National Committee accused John McCain of being AWOL from the Senate vote yesterday for a new GI Bill to provide better education benefits for returning veterans. McCain was in California on a campaign and fund-raising trip, while both Democratic contenders, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, left the campaign trail to vote for the bill, which p*****ed by a veto-proof 75-to-22 majority.
On the Senate floor, Obama questioned why McCain opposed the bill. “I can’t believe why he believes it is too generous to our veterans,” Obama said. “There are many issues that lend themselves to partisan posturing, but giving our veterans the chance to go to college should not be one of them.”
McCain, a Vietnam War hero, didn’t take the criticism lightly – and while Obama is careful to honor McCain’s military service, he mentioned Obama’s lack of it.
“I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did,” McCain said in a statement. “Perhaps, if Senator Obama would take the time and trouble to understand this issue he would learn to debate an honest disagreement respectfully. But, as he always does, he prefers impugning the motives of his opponent, and exploiting a thoughtful difference of opinion to advance his own ambitions. If that is how he would behave as president, the country would regret his election.”
The bill, which President Bush has threatened to veto, would pay tuition and other expenses at a four-year public university for anyone who has served at least three years since the 2001 terrorist attacks. McCain is a cosponsor of a different version of the bill that would require soldiers to have more time in the service to get full benefits and to encourage them to stay in the military as a career.
OMG, now he’s saying if no bailout plan is reached by Friday, he won’t attend debate!! What another tantrum…who’ surprised?!?!
Nicca Wants A Time Out
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OOOK!! dis ni99a talkin crazy, talking about putting ***** on hold ***** PLEASE!! OBAMA BOUT 2 GET IN DAT *****!!!
OBAMA ‘08′
**********McCain Misses 42nd Straight Vote … and Counting***************
blog(dot)washingtonpost(dot)com/capitol-briefing/2007/05/mccain_misses_42_straight_vote(dot)html
Sen. John McCain (R-Campaign Trail) missed another vote today on a resolution related to the Iraq war, skipping a procedural move on a war funding measure in favor of hitting the campaign trail in New York.
In fact, McCain’s missed vote today marked his fifth straight week without casting a vote on the Senate floor, with this morning’s vote marking the 42nd straight roll call that he has missed.
Since the first-quarter fundraising period for presidential candidates ended March 31, McCain has made just three floor votes. He hasn’t cast a single vote since the full details of his wildly disappointing presidential campaign’s fundraising report were revealed in mid-April.
If McCain misses the next three votes — the $2.9 trillion fiscal 2008 budget is likely to be voted on this afternoon — he will officially have been absent for 50 percent of the more than 170 roll calls held in the chamber so far in the 110th Congress.
Granted, McCain isn’t the only senator missing votes in favor of the presidential campaign trail. And as his staff has pointed out repeatedly, none of McCain’s missed votes has made the difference in a bill’s fate. In a statement to Capitol Briefing, McCain’s campaign said, “Regrettably, it is impossible for a presidential candidate to avoid missing votes. The Senator has not missed a vote where his vote would have affected the outcome, and he will make every effort to be in the Senate on the occasions when it would.”
One of McCain’s strongest backers is Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), the Republican whip who would presumably make sure McCain got back to Capitol Hill for particularly close votes.
But the other 2008 contenders in the Senate have made an effort to be on the floor this spring. Take Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kansas), who trails McCain as the most absentee senator (Not including Tim Johnson of South Dakota, who has missed every vote this year as he’s recovered from a brain hemorrhage). Brownback missed a series of votes Tuesday related to a water resources bill as he, McCain and the rest of the GOP field gathered in South Carolina for a candidates debate. But by 10:44 a.m. ET yesterday when the vote began on an amendment to cut off funding for the Iraq war, Brownback was in the chamber to vote against the provision.
In fact, McCain was the only senator running for president who missed Wednesday’s vote. Parsing his campaign statement, Senate watchers shouldn’t expect McCain in the Capitol very often; his pledge is only to “make every effort” to vote when he would make the difference in the outcome.
Today McCain will be in New York raising money at a private event and then speaking to the Empire State’s GOP state committee dinner in Manhattan. McCain was in the Washington area for at least part of today, too, attending a 1:30 p.m. ET press conference at the Capitol to help announce a bipartisan Senate agreement on immigration legislation. He left before the event was over, presumably heading for the Big Apple.
To be fair to the senator, this morning’s vote was essentially a sense-of-the-Senate resolution on troop safety in Iraq that simply moves the supplemental spending bill on Iraq back into a House-Senate conference. McCain has been a steadfast supporter of President Bush’s recent handling of the Iraq war, so his views are widely known on this issue.
And for anyone wondering about Democratic frontrunners Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.), they have missed just 1.8 percent and 6.4 percent of votes this year, respectively.
UPDATE: McCain did in fact miss the budget vote Thursday afternoon, as he headed north for his political events in Manhattan. That means he’s missed 43 straight Senate votes…
@jskyy: No – it is not doing their job. McCain cannot do anything but sit still in a corner and nod. Throughout the campaign, both have been back and forth to D.C. for whatever reasons there are. However, there is something that is not right here – you even have to admit that. But – you do not decide to “postpone” a debate. You provide access and ensure that you are available to do anything you can do to help the situation.
Remember – McCain has not addressed this issue in much detail until late last week. What if the decisions aren’t made before the election? Do you not hold any debates or make yourself available to the public until after November 4th? Or perhaps put off the election? No, you handle the business at hand while taking on the current issues as it fits. That is the mark of a true leader. It’s called multi-tasking.
*********McCain has missed the most votes of any senator**********
www(dot)salon(dot)com/politics/war_room/2008/06/25/mccain_senate/
How often has John McCain been away from the Senate? Well, let’s put it this way: At this point, he has missed more votes than even South Dakota Democrat Tim Johnson, who couldn’t work for almost a year after suffering a brain hemorrhage in late 2006.
I see today, from Think Progress, that McCain took over the dubious distinction of being the Senate’s most absent member in April of this year, and that CQ Politics says he hasn’t voted since April 8.
According to the Washington Post, McCain has missed 367 votes during the 110th Congress, 61.4 percent of those held. Johnson has missed 311 votes, 52 percent of the total. In third place is Barack Obama, who has missed 259 votes — 43.3 percent. Not surprisingly, the next four most absent senators (Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Sam Brownback) also ran for president this year.
CQ Politics notes that both Obama and McCain are likely to keep missing a fair number of votes, both because of scheduling conflicts and for political reasons. It’s easier to avoid getting attacked on an issue if you didn’t actually vote on it. That way, you can tailor your position in a way that might be more politically acceptable than the actual bill was. Because of this, Obama will probably continue to miss fewer votes than McCain — Democrats control the Senate’s agenda and can protect Obama from having to vote on potentially controversial legislation.
In a similar situation in 1996, when he was challenging then President Bill Clinton, former Sen. Bob Dole resigned from his seat. McCain has said that, for the moment, he has no plans to do the same. (John Kerry, obviously, kept his seat when he ran for president in 2004.)
― Alex Koppelman
Fall back, dubya.
Mississippi and Washington D.C. are on the same coast, what’s all this “postpone” *****? Like Obama said, they can do both. Like I said before, the economy won’t be any less *****ed up than it already is if neither of them showed up. As a matter of fact HE’S the one who was cool with all the deregulations that went on with all these corporations that wound up *****ing the economy in the face. He had a chance to stop the bull***** before it got bad and chose not to, so why is he in a rush to “fix” it now? He needs to man up, ***** around in D.C. for a few hours, and then go to Mississippi so that Obama can hand him his ***** in the debate.
@WhatsYoursIsMine: I like your style!
Like I said before everyone can get on here and copy and paste all the political ads that they want to fact remains that McScary is Scared and it’s a difference between town hall and debates. Just because McScary wanted to do townhall style meetings did not mean that Obama had to jump to it and i’m glad he didn’t also i’m glad that he didn’t change his mind about the debate. Yes We Can 08′ Baby!
I cant believe McCain is actually thinks people believe his BS excuse. Im also more upset that this post gets far less comments than a Rihanna, beyonce or Kim & Reggie post. But, I guess this IS a gossip site.
My post to jskyy was meant for Dubya. Mea culpa!
Oh, wait, that’s the date that was scheduled for the vice presidential debate. This is beyond ridiculous…now he’s trying to buy time for Paylin as well.
Okay, one last thing and then I’m out…He is simply reckless, cancelling would cost Ole Miss millions of dollars
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Ole Miss Official Says Debate Cancellation Would be ‘Devastating’
ABC News’ Tahman Bradley Reports: A senior University of Mississippi official reacted Wednesday to the news that Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., wants to postpone Friday’s presidential debate, saying that such a move would be “devastating” for the university which has already invested millions in preparation for the debate.
Andrew Mullins, special *****istant to university Chancellor Robert Khayat, told ABC News that the Ole Miss campus has been transformed to accommodate the candidates and the press. Road blocks are in place on campus and in the community and the debate television set for the candidates has already been constructed. He said the university has spent roughly five and half million dollars getting ready for the debate.
Mullins also noted that if the Commission on Presidential Debates asks the campus to hold the debate at a later date, he is not sure the university would be able to accommodate them.
“It’s huge. You cannot just say that you’re not going to do this thing,” Mullins said. “I don’t have any idea whether we do the debate” at a later date. “(We) probably wouldn’t do it.”
For now, Mullins, says the university is proceeding like they’re still having the debate until the commission makes a decision. The university was instructed by the commission on Wednesday to move forward as though the debate is still going to happen, Mullins said.
Sen. McCain, who suspended his campaign activity Wednesday, called for the debate to be postponed so that he could focus on the current economic crisis.
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*JSABP has left the building*
You can sign up to push to have the debate continue as scheduled at www(dot)demandthedebate2008(dot)com/. . .This is beyond ridiculous. . .I’m hearing the real reason for the delay is Palin’s lack of preparation. . .
i think we can all agree that McCain is a piece of shyt. have a chill evening, everyone.
WASHINGTON — First lady Laura Bush says Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin lacks sufficient foreign policy experience but is a very quick study.
In an interview Wednesday with CNN, the first lady remarked that it’s fortunate that Republican presidential nominee John McCain has foreign policy experience himself.
From The Huffington Post:
Why does John McCain suddenly want to suspend his presidential campaign and postpone Friday’s debate? His campaign surrogates are saying it’s a typical “maverick” move, that McCain is simply “putting country first.” Let’s look at the evidence:
1) As Ben Smith notes, McCain’s move “is a mark, most of all, that he doesn’t like the way this campaign is going. … The only thing that’s changed in the last 48 hours is the public polling.”
2) The idea of uniting the campaigns to find a bipartisan solution to the Wall Street crisis wasn’t even McCain’s idea. A few minutes ago, Obama spokesman Bill Burton emailed to reporters:
“At 8:30 this morning, Senator Obama called Senator McCain to ask him if he would join in issuing a joint statement outlining their shared principles and conditions for the Treasury proposal and urging Congress and the White House to act in a bipartisan manner to p***** such a proposal. At 2:30 this afternoon, Senator McCain returned Senator Obama’s call and agreed to join him in issuing such a statement. The two campaigns are currently working together on the details.”
3) John McCain has skipped more votes during this session than any member of the Senate except for Tim Johnson, who had major brain surgery. He has cast a single vote in five months, since April 9. All of a sudden, McCain is demanding that the presidential race shut down so he can return to Washington?
4) A reminder: President Bush was able to debate John Kerry while he was president. For all of his sudden urgency, McCain acknowledged just yesterday that he had not even read the administration’s three-page bailout proposal.
5) It’s not clear at all that having McCain and Obama back in DC will actually help. “What does seem apparent, though, is that putting the two candidates in the negotiating room is far more likely to distract–and derail–negotiations than having them out on the hustings,” Jonathan Cohn writes at the New Republic.
It’s impossible to know why McCain chose this course, but it sure seems like more of a political stunt than a maverick moment.
Its sarah paling…he’s trying to stale the V.P debates for her. Sarah Palin is clueless and the Americsn public well she her for what she really is when Biden chews her out during the debates!!!
@Sydney: I went to the link. Thanks!
No problem, Rozza! I’m too peeved about this. . .This is such a cowardly stunt. No Way! No How! No McCain!
More news on Obama — he’s moving into the electoral lead, according to Politico(dot)com:
State by state, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill). is showing signs of breaking open a presidential race that looked deadlocked through much of September.
A new wave of polls released Wednesday showed decisive leads for Obama in the critical states of Colorado, Michigan and Pennsylvania.
That follows noticeable progress in polls in Virginia, which had looked safe for Sen. John McCain, and Florida, which had looked promising for McCain.
This is the first time that one of the candidates has dominated state polls in the most closely contested battlegrounds.
Republican strategist Karl Rove had predicted this tectonic shift, writing at Rove.com earlier this week: “[I]f the movement toward Obama in national polls continue to percolate down to the states, we could see an Obama lead later this week.”
Can you imagine what would happen if Obama tried to “suspend” his campaign? They would paint him as a inexperienced, unprepared novice who is unfit to be president. It would be over for Obama, and it should be over for McCain.
For once I truly believe that I do not know what to say, in reference to John McCains latest ploy. Wait, then again, he must really think Americans are just dumb, stupid, and special. This bill is going to p***** no matter what the American people voice. Now, it is more about who is gonna continue to monitor what goes on with this money once the new administration takes over.
We need to here from both candiates more than ever. *****ody is going to sit around listening to the senate debate about money they are gonna give anyway. Everyone is, however, ready to here what the two cadidates are gonna say about this issue and the other issues that will clearly affect America for the next four or so years.
McCain looks sad right now, and judging by his appearace he should probably take a short break to rest.
so typical, why can’t the debate go on as planned and just shift the focus to the econmy instead of foreign affairs?????????????????
typo- economy
he backed out cause he knew Obama was getting ready to get all up in that *****!
And now, they are trying to attack Obama by saying he supports the killing of babies that survue late-term abortions. It is being circulated in a YouTube video produced by NoHussein.org – that name alone says it all. It smacks of desperation.
does anyone know what Obama’s response was ????
LOL, McChicken *****ed off Letterman:
“He can’t run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?”
–Also, why can’t McChicken use his invention — the BlackBerry — to do his business in Washington?
this idiots will try anything to win this election!!! but WE, the people must Not allow this….
McCain can’t pull the wool over our eyes. He is just trying to buy time.
I heard the dirt bags speech about us focusing on the economy.
In 40 days we will have an election. We still need to hear how both parties plans to fix this mess.
The McCain Palin ticket is garbage and he knows he is in deep *****.
I’m not buying his reason for putting of this debate.
Go Obama 08′
luvgossip
McCain can’t use e-mail, much less a BlackBerry, lol.
Necy, here’s Obama’s response. He wants to go ahead with the debate, with or without McCain, the last I read. I think he should turn it into a town hall meeting or an opportunity to showcase what he plans to do in terms of the economy and other crucial issues. I got to give it to McCain — he knows how to keep you on your toes — never in a million years would I have predicted he would pull this stunt. . .
The economic crisis and raw politics threatened to derail the first presidential debate as John McCain challenged Barack Obama to delay the Friday forum and join forces to help Washington fix the financial mess. Obama rebuffed his GOP rival, saying the next president needs to “deal with more than one thing at once.”
The White House rivals maneuvered to claim the leadership role in resolving the economic turmoil that has overshadowed their campaign six weeks before Election Day. Obama said he would proceed with his debate preparations while consulting with bailout negotiators and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. McCain said he would stop all advertising, fundraising and other campaign events to return to Washington and work for a bipartisan solution.
“It’s my belief that this is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess,” Obama said at a news conference in Clearwater, Fla. “It’s going to be part of the president’s job to deal with more than one thing at once.”
OBAMA 08′
@lisa wrote, “Who the hell does McCain think he is and Obama said McCain called him and they were jointly going to make a statement then the old fart makes his own announcement.”
And THAT’S why this is a punk move of McCain.
@Sydney
bravo, bravo!!! I’m so glad that he is doing that… because you know that they did this to get time to prepare… they are completely UNPREPARED to speak to the public, what makes them think that they can fix the mess that this country is in or run a country??????
Here’s another poll released today by the Wall Street Journal and NBC News, but this was conducted before today’s announcement. I’m very interested in how this “suspension” will affect the numbers. I think people, both Democrats and Republicans, will see through this. Bottom line, it looks bad, IMHO. . .
The race between Barack Obama and John McCain remains a dead heat, despite financial turmoil that has turned the nation’s attention to economic issues that tend to favor the Democratic presidential candidate, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.
Overall, the race remains essentially tied, with 48% favoring Sen. Obama and his running mate, Sen. Joe Biden, and 46% favoring Sen. McCain and his vice presidential choice, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. In the last Journal poll two weeks ago, Sen. Obama had a one-point edge. The new poll had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
@HF wrote, “[Mummy McCain on an emergency phone call 2 Dubya]
Hey, George, I’m trying 2 stall 4 time… can u hook a brother up with a war or terrorist attack or something? Tell me u got an October surprise 4 me.”
THAT’S scary. Only thing is, I thought George hated McCain? Something is up, I think everybody is being rope-a-doped, personally. There are some people pulling strings and *****ing over both McCain and Obama — and the nation.
But McCain shouldn’t have tried to punk out Obama like that. That’s dirty. Did McCain decide that, or did the same people who told him he was going to have Sarah Palin as his VP whether he wanted her or not (and he didn’t) decide that? Crazy ish going down. Crazy ish.
And ***** Deep — yep. I wondered about the timing, too. Might as well happen now than later. Apparently, there’s WORSE down the pipe. These people really *****ed up our nation.
If I were going to debate a young man from Harvard Law school I would backout to.
Gotta go, people. . .I want to see what Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow say about this. . .Olbermann is filling in for McCain on Letterman — I’m sure he’s going to have a field day with this. It’s like manna from the heavens. . .
It’s time for Obama to put away the kid gloves for good and come out swinging. . .The end is in sight! Please register to vote and let’s make this a historic turnout!
YES WE CAN! OBAMA-BIDEN ‘08
Nice try, punk, but the debate is still on for Friday.
@What’sYoursIsMine,
Oh SNAP!!!!!! thank you so much for the links and articles.
Dubya, quit trolling.
C’mon Hannibal, don’t even act like you think that wasn’t a ***** ***** move on McCain’s part. Your boy is running scared, knew he stood to be made a fool of (just like Palin not wanting to answer questions after her appearances!). And now Bush wants Obama to come to the meeting about the economy…probably just what the slavemaster used to do right before stealing the slave’s ideas. McCain and Bush are some pathetic *****es…
MCCAIN MUST THANK WE ARE STUPID AS HELL DON’T TRY TO BACK DOWN NOW THAT YOURE LOSING AND CRY ABOUT THE ECONOMY HE SAID THE ECONOMY WAS STRONG. OMBAMA IS STILL GONNA BE AT THE DEBATE. SMART MOVE MCBUSH WERE NOT FALIING FOR THE BS.
*****, Daily Kos is reporting that an Obama campaign email just said that President Bush just called Obama personally to attend a ’special meeting’ tomorrow.
Obama, keep your eyes peeled! Don’t let them pull nothing on you, then try to fake you out AGAIN.
@sepia830 wrote, “And now Bush wants Obama to come to the meeting about the economy…probably just what the slavemaster used to do right before stealing the slave’s ideas. McCain and Bush are some pathetic *****es…”
Damn, you went old school. More things change, the more they stay the same. I hope that’s not what they’re going to do. But who knows with those creeps.
Obama: be on the look out.
How exactly can Obama be at the debate, and vote on the final bill at the same time?
Answer: He can’t.
How does Obama know what he’s voting for if he isn’t on the floor to hear the details.
Answer: He won’t.
How can Obama offer is own amendments if he isn’t on the floor to introduce them?
Answer: He can’t.
This has been your simple civics lesson.
But please continue on with the bull*****, it’s entertaining.
So now I am a troll because I don’t agree with you. That’s rich!
Given that some of us are concerned about Obama’s “present vote” while being only in the senate for 143 days, what a great way to put his words into action by actually standing for something as opposed to talking about it.
I think that McCain is doing the right thing. I knows that the problems that recent financial problems are serious and I am happy that I is trying to do something about unlike BAMA. McCain saw this problem three years ago and tried to get bills p*****ed so that we would not be in this situation but the bill was turned down mostly by DEMOCRATS. McCain has never been afraid of Obama. It was McCain who intially wanted to have a series of town hall meetings without pre-rehersed speeches or sound bites and BAMA agreed to have those meeting. BAMA has sinced turned down those meetings and to me that shows someone who cannot do anything but make good speeches.
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
Sorry for the misspelling
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I think that McCain is doing the right thing. McCain knows that recent financial problems are serious and I am happy that he is trying to do something about it unlike BAMA. McCain saw this problem three years ago and tried to a bill p*****ed so that we would not be in this situation but the bill was turned down mostly by DEMOCRATS. McCain has never been afraid of Obama. It was McCain who intially wanted to have a series of town hall meetings without pre-rehersed speeches or sound bites and BAMA agreed to have those meeting. BAMA has sinced turned down those meetings and to me that shows someone who cannot do anything but make good speeches.
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
I REALLY WISH SOME OF YOU WOULD GO BY THE ISSUES AT HAND INSTEAD OF ONLY SUPPORTING BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE HE HAS A SIMILAR SKIN PIGMENTATION. THIS IS ABOUT MORE THAN COLOR PEOPLE, WAKE UP AND READ MR. OBAMA’S FINANCIAL PLANS. HE WON’T GIVE YOU MORE HANDOUTS LIKE YOU EXPECT AND YOU WILL STILL WORK THE SAME JOB FOR THE SAME WAGE. AGAIN, WAKE UP FOLKS!
@WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little:
Voting “no” with Republican leaders would have offended millions of Social Security recipients and the disabled veterans not scheduled to receive rebates. Voting “yes,” on the other hand, risked alienating Bush, GOP leaders and conservatives already suspicious of McCain’s political leanings. McCain was speaking Thursday before a meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, a group that booed him last year in absentia.
Say What?!?!? Man, ***** that *****! I’m a motha*****in’ veteran, and that sum’***** has the nevre!!!! I oughtta gouge his *****in’ eye***** out and skull***** him! ***** ***** *****! (My ***** got shot overseas and coulda’ been killed and tha mother*****er didn’t show?) I oughtta knock *****in’ fire outta his *****! P.O.W More like ***** Old White man *****!
“After falling way back in recent polls, the old man wants to call a punk timeout and postpone Friday’s presidential debate:”
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Dayum BOSSIP!…Give the writer of this post a raise.That and the headline had me LMAO.As funny as it was however…I think they both need to get to Washington & formulate some plan that:
1)Keeps the country & the rest of the planet from falling into a brutal DEPRESSION.
2)Does so WITHOUT bailing out the GREEDY & the STUPID.
It’s probably ALREADY too late for #1.So the next best thing may be to lay groundwork for a speedy (inside 7yrs.) recovery.I do not envy the winner of this election.
P.S.
So much for that conventional wisdom that Whites are good at the money game.(guess not)
@ Selena
why not have the debate and just focus on the economy instead??????????? UNPREPARED PERHAPS???? pleeeeeeeeease get out of here with that sh%t…
OBAMA HAS POISONED THE KOOL-AID FOR TOO MANY OF YOU!!! READING THESE COMMENTS HAS ME CHUCKLING SOMEWHAT BUT ALSO VERY CONFUSED AT YOUR DISTORTED THOUGHT PATTERNS. NEITHER SIDE WILL MAKE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE END BUT THE BEST BET IS GOING CONSERVATIVE.
Yup! He “scurred”! Don’t be scurred now nicca!! Hell its time to make the donuts right now! Obama is like no we need to go ahead have this debate so we can see who’s gonna be handling this crisis for real come November. This economy is a mess ya’ll. Here in Atlanta there is NO gas! Like for real. I live in Fayette County and there’s absolutely no gas in the 3 other surrounding counties. I mean he’s not taking this ***** serious enough for me. Why would I vote for someone who seemingly wants to back out of a debate to go to Washington and sit on his ***** pretending to work. There’s absolutely nothing that he can do in Washington right now to ease the downward spiral of the crashing economy. No McShame, take your old krypt keepin’ ***** to that debate so that the American people can once and for all decide to vote for Obama!!!
to the stupid @$$e$ that believe we need to cancel the debate to focus on our current financial situation:
WAKE UP!!!!
Now more than ever we the American people need to see EXACTLY where BOTH of these men stand. What is not debating going to accomplish? nothing other than looking like a punk. What is mccain going to do instead of debate…sit behind a desk and brainstorm and come up with ideas to get us out of debt?? i have an idea….STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ and spending billions of dollars on it! but wait…there is still success to achieve overseas, right?
conservatives make me laaaugh. all the hating in the world isn’t going to stop BO from delivering in November. keep commenting, fools!
Debt=Slavery
Our Congress is about p***** the biggest piece of economic legislation since the great depression, that will put our nation as well as our great great great great great great great grandchildren into debt…and Obama is all for it
REDD TONY
WELL SPOKEN MY BROTHER. OBAMA DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO HANDLE THE SITUATION. HE IS RIDING THE WAVE OFF HIS RACE STILL! SMDH SINCE HE WAS NOMINATED
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@Black Conservative
Make no mistake Im not taking either side of the so called Democrate/Republican party…they are on the same side
Necy,
McCain canceled the debate because he wanted to be present in Washington to face the financial crisis. The only way that this can be resolved is if the Senators are PRESENT to come up with solutions and place a VOTE. BAMA his decided not to attend the meetings which means that he will not be PRESENT to MAKE A VOTE so basically BAMA has chosen to do nothing but make another speech. As stated before, John McCain has never been afraid of Obama. He has attempted to debate Obama many times without prewritten speeches and Obama has declined.
I forgot to mention something else
Necy,
McCain also stated that he wants to have the debate but due to this issue he would like to have it at another time.
MY NECK HURTS BECAUSE I STILL HAVE NOT STOPPED SMDH!
GOOD POINT AGAIN REDD TONY
DO YOU ALL CHECK OBAMA’S VOTING RECORD SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN THE SENATE? HE HAS STEERED AWAY FROM CONTROVERSIAL VOTES BECAUSE HE WANTS TO HAVE A STRONG IMAGE WITH THE PUBLIC. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER OBAMA, IT IS TIME TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE! THERE ARE TWO OUTS IN THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING AND WE NEED TO SEE HOW CLUTCH YOU ARE!!
The show must go on.
Aint that some *****…Bossip advertising Pay Day Loan companies and these the motha*****a declaring havoc on peoples checking and savings accounts causing Non-sufficient funds fees…SMH
On Fox News they just said that McCain wanted to reschedule the debate for next Thursday, which just happens to be when Palin and Biden are suppoae to debate.
(Check me out!)
to the stupid @$$e$ that believe we need to cancel the debate to focus on our current financial situation:
WAKE UP!!!!
Now more than ever we the American people need to see EXACTLY where BOTH of these men stand. What is not debating going to accomplish? nothing other than looking like a punk. What is mccain going to do instead of debate…sit behind a desk and brainstorm and come up with ideas to get us out of debt?? i have an idea….STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ and spending billions of dollars on it! but wait…there is still success to achieve overseas, right?
conservatives make me laaaugh. all the hating in the world isn’t going to stop BO from delivering in November. keep commenting, fools!
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I agree 100%! When you all go to vote and hopefully you will, don’t you want to hear where both candidates stand on the real issue at hand? Theat is the economy. Ok someone said the senators have to be present to get a solution going, what can they do in that very short window of time, that can’t be handled once someone is elected to solve the crisis the right way? Hello we don’t have that long! I mean everyone is entitled to their opinion thats what makes this forum so great. I’m simply giving my take on the matter. I would rather see the debate so that when I go to the polls, I know who I’m voting for, why I’m voting for that person, and on what issues are important to me and my family.
@E wrote, “On Fox News they just said that McCain wanted to reschedule the debate for next Thursday, which just happens to be when Palin and Biden are suppoae to debate.”
Palin isn’t ready. Like David Letterman was saying (all over youtube now), you don’t suspend your campaign over this you send in your ’second string quarterback’ — so where is she? Why isn’t she trusted to continue to campaign in McCain’s stead?
Letterman said this whole thing does not p***** the smell test, and he said that this is NOT the John McCain he’s known in the past.
And then later in the show he illustrates graphically how John McCain LIED to him, telling Dave that he had to rush to the airport to get to Washington, when the truth was at that very moment he was a couple blocks DOWN THE STREET getting his makeup done for his Katie Couric appearance. And there was VIDEO. Yet all the while, Dave seemed to feel bad for McCain, even while he dissed the ***** out of him..
So Palin is not ready to face Biden, but someone hopes to lower expectations of her so much that just not doing a faceplant equals ‘win’.
Not happening. Besides, it’s now being reported that this ‘emergency’ bailout has been in the works for AT LEAST SIX MONTHS by Paulson and company. Unbelieveable.
Why is that important? it means that this whole thing, this whole economic crisis is a done deal and there’s NOTHING McCain can do by grandstanding with suspending his campaign to head to Washington.
Also, as others who don’t even give a ***** usually have written, if Obama is able to be in Washington Friday in the morning for this stupid vote, and then able to fly down to Mississippi in the evening — not only does he deserve to have a whole hour to give his message to the American people and answer questions by himself, but he just might have a great chance at actually carrying
THE *****ING STATE OF MISSISSIPPI for doing it.
And Obama’s response to the McCain campaign backstab (I still have no idea what that’s about, that’s just not the John McCain of 2004 and 2000; No way) this afternoon was thoughtful, intelligent, brilliant… and brought it home about the responsibilities of a president.
@2cute4u♥ wrote, “I would rather see the debate so that when I go to the polls, I know who I’m voting for, why I’m voting for that person, and on what issues are important to me and my family.”
These are gonna be the most watched debates in history. Damn. They really know how to stoke people up. And yes, a real debate moderated by a neutral party (not the farces done in 2000 and 2004) will indeed let people know where candidates stand on the issues.
@Redd Tony wrote, “Aint that some *****…Bossip advertising Pay Day Loan companies and these the motha*****a declaring havoc on peoples checking and savings accounts causing Non-sufficient funds fees…SMH”
Damn, you’re right. Good catch, Tony. That is some bull*****.
This is unprecedented. Has any presidential candidate requested to delay a debate? They don’t have to have either one to review the bailout procedures since both of these candidates sat idly by while these companies decieved American tax payers. They should go on with the debates as scheduled.
A punk? A man who was a POW for 5 years? You only like Obama because he is black!! EVERY white person in America knows this.If Obama had his mothers skin tone. U guys would totally lose interest in him! BTW, whites are voting for Obama and McCain.Blacks just Obama..who’s racist?
2cute4u
YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR! YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT WATCHING THE DEBATES WAS PATHETIC BECAUSE YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT EVEN IF MCCAIN HAD PICTURES OF OBAMA GETTING HEAD FROM A HOOKER YOU WOULD STILL SAY IT WAS PHOTOSHOPPED! MCCAIN IS FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES AND OBAMA IS TRYING TO HURRY UP AND GET IN OFFICE; HOWEVER HIS PLAN HAS MORE HOLES THAN A BLOCK OF SWISS CHEESE! SMDH
i’m sure the pres of pakistan is jacking off tonight because he shook hands with sarah palin
McChicken is going to try to postpose the VP debate until after the election.
BLACK CONSERVATIVE(Check me out!)
2cute4u
YOU HAVE ALREADY DECIDED A LONG TIME AGO WHO YOU ARE VOTING FOR! YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT WATCHING THE DEBATES WAS PATHETIC BECAUSE YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT EVEN IF MCCAIN HAD PICTURES OF OBAMA GETTING HEAD FROM A HOOKER YOU WOULD STILL SAY IT WAS PHOTOSHOPPED! MCCAIN IS FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES AND OBAMA IS TRYING TO HURRY UP AND GET IN OFFICE; HOWEVER HIS PLAN HAS MORE HOLES THAN A BLOCK OF SWISS CHEESE! SMDH
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McCain aint focused on *****..his ***** gon lose the election, retire, and sit in his rocking chair
big boss(Check me out!)
i’m sure the pres of pakistan is jacking off tonight because he shook hands with sarah palin
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REDD TONY CAN I ACCURATELY *****UME YOU ARE NOT VOTING FOR EITHER CANDIDATE??
***** please! Punks step up and get beat down!
^you are correct
MyCane’s peeps are not only requesting a delay in the debates as a political ploy to make Obama look selfish and unpatriotic, but I also believe McCain is genuinely afraid of facing Obama 1 on 1. He’s been slandering Obama and talking all types of lies for weeks on end, and now that it’s time to face the strong Black man, he’s a coward.
Folks, this is what white people continue to do to us. They make all sorts of generalizations and stereotypes and lies up about us, but from the safety and confines of their home. They’re too afraid to talk ***** in your face, unless they’re in a pack, lol.
What we may see in MyCane if there ever is a debate, is either a real coward who stumbles over his words, or a very angry little old man who will lose his temper on national television.
Now his camp is talking about postponing the 10/2 VP debates too!
This whole ***** is unprecedented!
Randy,
We just don’t agree with McStale’s position, I sorry that you can’t understand that. If McCain was black trust me we would not support him!
I just can’t trust the judgment of someone who voted for BUSH!
@ JSkyy
He will run and keep running from issues like he always has.McSame and the repose’s contributed more to this problem than anyone else and you know that. Istead of going to help the mess, he should attend the debate talk to the people and tell them why he is independent of it. Now it makes him look more like a signifcant part of the problem to me. Yea he will mop up Obama on the foreign policy like Palin’s crash course 101 in foreign policy( taking pictures with the people at the UN is all she needs to be expert in foreign affairs, that and her being able to see Alaska from her home). Yea right!
LETS GET ONE THING CLEAR HERE. IF OBAMA, GOD FORBID, WINS THIS ELECTION THE WHITE MAN WILL STILL RUN THIS COUNTRY. AND THIS IS COMING FROM A CONSERVATIVE BLACK MAN WHO LIVES IN THE SOUTHERN US
The republicans are playing games !! Let’s talk about the economy and issues here folks. Has anyone heard anything about the problems they are still having in Houston. I heard it is still real bad down there and the news is not even commenting (distractions, distractions, distractions….). There is just no money for anything and they know it! And people on here are still trying to justify the continuation of an old failed, depressing regime. There is something terribly psychotic about that.
REAL change is in the making
Obama 2008
i was 1 of the 7 people who voted in NC (of course i am embelishing a tad bit)not 2 have gwb re elected a 2nd term. i am a very known person, i laugh @ everyone 4 complaining when 92 % of the people who r doing the griping didnt vote 4 yrs ago. i am blck BUT i’m rich so I win either way (oh by the way my dad is white!!!?) for my moms people quit complaining and vote 4 who u think will serve EVERYONE!!!!!
CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT DOESNT CHANGE NATURALLY OCCUR???
BARACK OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE $1,000 CREDITS TO STUDENTS WANTING TO ATTEND COLLEGE WHO COME FROM FAMILIES WHERE MONEY IS AN ISSUE. WHERE WILL THIS MONEY COME FROM????? HIGHER TAXES
AND BESIDES WHAT COLLEGE ONLY COSTS $1,000??? THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OF HIS MANY PLOYS TO GET SIMPLE-MINDED PEOPLE EXCITED “MAMA I CANS GO TO COLLEGE NOW”
So Sick!(Check me out!)
The republicans are playing games !! Let’s talk about the economy and issues here folks. Has anyone heard anything about the problems they are still having in Houston. I heard it is still real bad down there and the news is not even commenting (distractions, distractions, distractions….). There is just no money for anything and they know it! And people on here are still trying to justify the continuation of an old failed, depressing regime. There is something terribly psychotic about that.
REAL change is in the making
Obama 2008
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I know right..I feel kinda insulted when the Red Cross is asking me for $5 when $700 billion is being thrown around like it aint *****
what’s also unsettling about this whole scenario is the timing. 40 days away from the election, and here we have this evil turkey (Bush) ordering us to rush to support this $700 billion bailout.
telling us we’re in danger and attempting to strike fear in everyone. same lines he fed us when he felt the need to go to war with Iraq– his hobby for the past 5 years. i truly think he’s overemphasizing this ***** to buy MCCain some time.
Next they’ll try to delay election day- i can see it now!
nesh(Check me out!)
i was 1 of the 7 people who voted in NC (of course i am embelishing a tad bit)not 2 have gwb re elected a 2nd term. i am a very known person, i laugh @ everyone 4 complaining when 92 % of the people who r doing the griping didnt vote 4 yrs ago. i am blck BUT i’m rich so I win either way (oh by the way my dad is white!!!?) for my moms people quit complaining and vote 4 who u think will serve EVERYONE!!!!
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STFU.. you drank the kool aid too fool, yo monkey ***** getting screwed too.
@Black Con
You gotta point wit that $1000 credit
With the rising cost of education that money dont even go far
@ black con… dog you might as well save your breath… willie lynch won… these people are not ready to put the kool aid down and leave the plantation… you hit ‘em with pure facts… and just like a bunch of libs they start all that I think… I feel in my heart bull*****… you know they don’t know *****… they know they don’t know *****… thats when they break out the… in the face of evil… there is hope… and with hope we can change the world… yes we can… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the ***** does that mean… i guess it means Barack will save the world with one check written out of thin air at a time… al gore math… bajesus…
really i bet half these clowns couldn’t tell you who their own state reps are if you spotted them the party and last name… the other half clearly have no *****ing clue… these people don’t know history… they don’t know politics… they don’t understand anything… they think that the government i.e. we own all this *****… no silly rabbit we just foot the bill… maybe your a better man than me because a lot of the people on here are too stupid to even waste your time trying to explain *****… logic and facts play no role in their thought process… its all bling bling and emotion… these clowns don’t even know the difference between free health care and socialized medicine…
I would just like to say i go to UM and it is very poor on McCains side to drop the debate and i would be *****ed if it were canceled because since school started we have had to give up a lot for the debate
I THINK THE STATE OF OUR ECONOMY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN OBAMA BEATING THE BRAKES OFF OF MCCAIN DURING A DEBATE. OBAMA HAS TREMENDOUS PUBLIC SPEAKING SKILLS AND A STRONG VOICE BUT IN THE END HE HAS NO CONCRETE PLAN TO ACHIEVE HIS FLUFF STATEMENTS!
MCCAIN/PALIN 08
John McCain i have read his name on ””’www.bigbisexual.com .it’s said that he is dating with a young white girl,marry she looks so sexual and hot . ilove her very much !there are also some close pics about them i think it’s ture !
@black con neither does McSame… i agreed with everything you said up until McSame/Palin… there is no home for conservatives in the republican party… regan to bush 1 to bush 2… now john mcsame is a conservative… war monger yes… conservative…? hardly… when has McSame been anything other than a RINO… he’s a maverick… this is the same clown who brought you campaign finance reform… with feingold… bajesus… not only that but it concerns me highly that this dude spent 5 years in the hands of soviet mind control handlers… and spilled the beans… this mind control ***** is real they just had some ***** on drudge about some new mind reading machine… it sounds crazy and far fetched but i’m only reporting the news… i’m quoting ***** from the ap…
Black Conservative.
You are a lone star on this post…so take your wack ***** opinions over to conservative blogs where they’ll appreciate them.
McInsane truly played himself this time around. The state of our economy is important but the debates should go on. Never in the history of Debates (started in 1976) have they ever, ever been canceled.
Can’t multitask much? How about putting Palin in his place since he wants to play operation “rescue economy hero”? Can’t do it; cause she’s an idiot as well.
YES WE CAN! Obama’s the man with the plan and a destiny. No Black Conservative can get in the way of that.
And I really hate these race baiters who are talking about Black people voting for Obama cause he’s black. It’s a lame divide and conquer tactic and a stupid as hell argument.
Do all black people love Al Sharpton cause he’s black?
How about Jesse Jackson?
How about Jay-Z?
Barack is clearly the better candidate. McSame’s tactics are based on nothing but lies and fear. Obama is the great candidate who happens to be black. Historically Black folks have always voted democratically; so throwing in all this “we only want him cause he’s black *****” is a bunch of propaganda to make white people feel like we want revenge.
@ whatevs… whats the plan all i ever hear is… in the face of evil there is hope… and with hope we can change the world… yes we can…
whats the plan… what… who… where… when… why… how…? seriously… maybe you heard something in all that empty rhetoric i didn’t…
OK, SO CAN YOU PLEASE OUTLINE THE MASTER PLAN AND DEFINE CHANGE FOR ME PLEASE???
Look Eddie Dollars.
I don’t have the time. If you really needed to be convinced of Barack’s Plan you would do the work necessary to inform yourself. Just like I did the work to inform myself about Senator McCain and Palin. As a result I decided that I vote no on the McFailin/McSame ticket!
I don’t like liars and I like having reproductive rights. I’m not interested in supporting extremist right wing conservatives who would rather see my black ***** being a servant or even better back in chains.
I’m not interested in helping the rich get richer. I’m not completely Democratic but I’m educated enough to know that our country is in the dumps and having Palin a heartbeat away says a lot about McCain’s judgement.
If McUnstable were that much of a Maverick he would have a Vice Presidential candidate to lean on in times such as this. She could have easily taken his place on Friday; but no. The pitbull in lipstick has been protected like a delicate flower in a gl***** house.
Just based on that alone McCain won’t get my vote. He chose her for political gain; putting country second! Not to mention:
1. Called it ageism. But he’s old and weary.
2. He campaign Manager was being paid by ***** Mae at the rate of $30,000 dollars a month up until a couple of weeks ago.
3. Sarah Palin will set women’s rights back two hundred years.
4. Other than blowing sunshine out of his ***** I really don’t know what more people want from Obama.
5. McCain didn’t vet Palin. At leas you can admit that he made a dumber than dumb choice by choosing her.
6. Her personal life is in the shambles. She cheated on her husband, has a retarded newborn, and has a preggers daughter. Had that been Obama’s shoes the election would have been forfeited.
I don’t totally disagree with Republican values; but McCains has consistently exercised poor judgement.
redd tony aka earth sign and black con:
I’ve been rarely post on Bossip, lately I just come for a few laughs then leave. But I had to respond to your messages. While I am glad to read about your well-thought out perspectives, there’s no need to insult other people’s political views on this board. it takes away from whatever point you are trying to make.
I am a moderate Democrat voting for Sen.Obama. Yes, i know where he stands on the issues I care about. but at the end of the day, I am voting with my heart because I believe in Obama’s vision, integrity, character and world view.
And no, I am not an ignorant, ghetto liberal who’s drinking the kool aid and still living on the plantation. I am a well-paid, young professional woman who studied politics and media at a private, respected university.
lastly, as part of my undergradute studies I took several courses in political science. and guess what? it’s been found that voter behavior is largely influenced by socialization, geography, informal interactions and yes emotions. so, all this talk that people on this board are dumb because they’re voting with the hearts is irrelevant. republican, democrat or independent voters rarely choose a candidate based only on issues.
No you really are not… if you were you’d know that McCain is not a conservative… Roe Vs. Wade will never be overturned… I personally am against baby murder… but I don’t think you should have to prove you were raped to murder your rape baby… furthermore i could never have an abortion (even though i am financially obligated with no rights)… but ig *****s want to murder their babies as a means of birth control… whatever its your soul not mine… you’d also know that yes McSame is the candidate for the rich… AND OBAMA IS THE CANDIDATE FOR THE EXTREME RICH… THAT’S WHY OBAMA AND NOT McCAIN HAS RECEIVED THE MOST MONEY FROM WALL STREET… THATS WHY OBAMA SELECTED THE CORUPT JAMES JOHNSON FORMER CHAIRMAN OF… COUGH COUGH… FANNIE MAE TO SELECT HIS CHAIRMAN… THATS WHY OBAMA TOOK THE STARS OFF OF HIS LOGO AND CHOSE TO USE A SYMBOL OF LUCIFER… AND YES THAT IS WHAT THAT RISING SUN IS… IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT THAT IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE BELIEVE… I SUGGEST YOU LOOK INTO ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI… AND THE BOOK “TRAGEDY AND HOPE” BY BILL CLINTONS MENTOR DR. CARROLL QUIGLEY… SERIOUSLY… YOU REALLY ARE NOT VERY INFORMED… DO SOME RESEARCH AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SHATTER THIS FALSE LEFT RIGHT PARADIGM… THEY ARE MERELY TWO OPPOSING SIDES OF THE SAME LIE… AS BAD AS BUSH SUCKS CONGRESS IS WORSE WITH A 9% APPROVAL RATING… PLEASE NAME ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION BARACK HAS AUT*****D… JUST ONE… NOT ONE HE HELPED ON OR VOTED ON… BUT ACTUALLY AUT*****D…
am voting with my heart… am not an ignorant… THESE TWO STATEMENTS DO MIX… republican, democrat or independent voters RARELY choose a candidate based only on issues… AGAIN THIS IS THE PROBLEM… I ACTUALLY DO KNOW THE ISSUES THE REAL ISSUES… I DON’T VOTE BASED ON MY HEART… I LOOK AT THE FACTS AND MAKE A DECISION… THIS IS NOT A PERSONALITY CONTEST OR VOTE FOR PROM KING…
THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS IS NOT A VALID OPTION FOR ME… WE MUST DENOUNCE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM/PROCESS AS CORUPT… NO OFFENSE BUT YOU AT BEST HAVE A SURFACE LEVEL KNOWLEDGE OF SOME ISSUES… BUT I TRULY THINK YOU MAY BE A LITTLE NIEVE TO HOW THINGS REALLY WORK…
MCCAIN THE SO CALLED WAR HERO WAS BROKEN BY THE ENEMY THATS WHY ALOT OF VETS HATE HIM.HE TOOK FAVORS FROM THE ENEMY AND THAT’S A NO NO.WHEN HE RETURNED FROM VIETNAM HIS FAITHFUL WIFE WHO HAD AN ACCIDENT WAS ABANDONED BY THIS SO CALLED HERO.HE LEFT HER FOR A 18 YEAR OLD YOUNGER WOMAN.NOW DO YOU WANT THIS COWARD TO BE YOUR PRESIDENT?
PLUS I HEARD HE GIVES HEAD IN THE AIRPORT STALLS.
For those that think McCain’s campaign suspension isn’t a political ploy. From the NY Times:
“Now that we are on the verge of making a deal, John McCain airdrops himself in to help us make a deal,” said Representative Barney Frank, of M*****achusetts and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. “Frankly, we are going to have to interrupt a negotiating session tomorrow between Democrats and Republicans on a bill where I think we are getting pretty close to troop down to the White House for a photo op.”
“What, does McCain think the Senate will still be working at 9 p.m. Friday?” Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania said in an interview, referring to the scheduled start time of the debate. “I think this is all political.”
Here’s more:
CNN’s Dana Bash reports that McCain officials are “trying to negotiate with the Obama campaign and the presidential debate commission” to change next Thursday’s planned vice presidential debate into a McCain-Obama affair. The VP debate would be postponed to another date.
“That is what they are proposing,” Bash reported. “[McCain officials] understand very well that both the Obama campaign and the debate commission have no intention of delaying Friday’s debate, but…if there is no bailout deal by Friday, McCain has no plan to go to debate.”
McCain Shuts Down Campaign Until Bailout Scam P*****es
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
September 24, 2008
Good news! McCain has shut down his election campaign. Maybe we won’t have to see his mug all the time on television.
Of course, this is horse feathers. It’s an election trick. McCain says he has suspended his campaign until the government figures out how best to screw the little guy, who will have to pay for the bankster scam now tortuously wending its way through the best little corporate w*****house on the Potomac. McCain urges Obama to do likewise. So far it seems the Obama campaign has told their counterparts in the McCain campaign to go suck an egg.
McCain made all kinds of scary predictions if the fleecing does not commence *****to. If not steamrolled through, “McCain said ominously, credit will dry up, people will no longer be able to buy homes, life savings will be at stake and businesses will not have enough money to pay workers.” In short, according to McCain, life will pretty much end as we know it because we are attached to the bankers by a financial umbilical cord.
McCain threw one of his stalwarts into the fight, the neocon senator Lindsey Graham:
Sen. Lindsey Graham, McCain’s representative in debate negotiations, said McCain will not attend the debate “unless there is an agreement that would provide a solution” to the financial crisis. Graham, R-S.C., told The *****ociated Press that the agreement would have to be publicly endorsed by Obama, McCain, the White House and congressional leaders, but not necessarily given final p*****age by the House and Senate.
Joint statement from Obama and McCain, which if I recall correctly, Obama initiated before McCain decided to suspend his campaign:
“The American people are facing a moment of economic crisis. No matter how this began, we all have a responsibility to work through it and restore confidence in our economy. The jobs, savings, and prosperity of the American people are at stake.
“Now is a time to come together – Democrats and Republicans – in a spirit of cooperation for the sake of the American people. The plan that has been submitted to Congress by the Bush Administration is flawed, but the effort to protect the American economy must not fail.
This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.”
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In addition, Sen. Obama appended the following statement of principles he wants in the legislation, and asked Sen. McCain to support them as well. Obama campaign officials say Sen. McCain’s campaign rhetoric suggests he agrees with the principles.
I believe that several core principles should guide this legislation.
First, there must be oversight. We should not hand over a blank check to the discretion of one man. We support an independent, bipartisan board to ensure accountability and complete transparency.
Second, we need to protect taxpayers. There should be a path for taxpayers to recover their money, and to turn a profit if Wall Street prospers.
Third, no Wall Street executive should profit from taxpayer dollars. This plan cannot be a welfare program for CEOs whose greed and irresponsibility has contributed to this crisis.
Fourth, we must help families who are struggling to stay in their homes. We cannot bail out Wall Street without helping millions of families facing foreclosure on Main Street.
Fifth, we both agree that this financial rescue package should move on its own without any earmarks or other measures. We have different views about the need for other action, but this must be a clean bill.
This is a time to rise above politics for the good of the country. We cannot risk an economic catastrophe. This is not a Democratic problem or a Republican problem – this is an American problem. Now, we must find an American solution.
Bailout is financial equivalent of the Patriot Act
Andrew Ross Sorkin
International Herald Tribune
September 24, 2008
The p*****age is stunning:
“Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency,” the original draft of the proposed bill says.
And with those words, the Treasury secretary – whoever that may be in a few months – would be vested with perhaps the most incredible powers ever bestowed on one person over the economic and financial life of the United States. It is the financial equivalent of the Patriot Act, after 9/11.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Jr.’s $700 billion proposal to bail out Wall Street is both the biggest rescue and the most amazing power grab in the history of the American economy.
In many ways, it is cl*****ic Wall Street: a big, bold roll of the dice that one trade can save the day. But at the same time, the hypocrisy is thick. The lack of transparency and oversight that got our financial system in trouble in the first place seems written directly into the proposed bill, known as TARP, or the Troubled *****et Relief Program.
Just take a look at the original draft: “The Secretary is authorized to take such actions as the Secretary deems necessary to carry out the authorities in this act,” the proposed bill read when it was first presented to Congress, “without regard to any other provision of law regarding public contracts.”
It goes on to say, “Any funds expended for actions authorized by this Act, including the payment of administrative expenses, shall be deemed appropriated at the time of such expenditure.”
Slowly but surely, as new versions of the bill are making the rounds in Washington, some legislators are pressing to include new language to give them at least a modi***** of oversight. Democrats have complained that the bill gives the Treasury Department “a blank check” – and they’re right.
But given the rush to push the bill through, even if Congress cobbles together some oversight language, it will almost surely be inadequate.
The Bitter Fruits of Deregulation
Paul Craig Roberts
Infowars
September 24, 2008
Remember the good old days when the economic threat was mere recession? The Federal Reserve would encourage the economy with low interest rates until the economy overheated. Prices would rise, and unions would strike for higher benefits. Then the Fed would put on the brakes by raising interest rates. Money supply growth would fall. Inventories would grow, and layoffs would result. When the economy cooled down, the cycle would start over.
The nice thing about 20th century recessions was that the jobs returned when the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates and consumer demand increased. In the 21st century, the jobs that have been moved offs***** do not come back. More than three million U.S. manufacturing jobs have been lost while Bush was in the White House. Those jobs represent consumer income and career opportunities that America will never see again.
In the 21st century the US economy has produced net new jobs only in low paid domestic services, such as waitresses, bartenders, hospital orderlies, and retail clerks. The kind of jobs that provided ladders of upward mobility into the middle cl***** are being exported abroad or filled by foreigners brought in on work visas. Today when you purchase an American name brand, you are supporting economic growth and consumer incomes in China and Indonesia, not in Detroit and Cincinnati.
In the 20th century, economic growth resulted from improved technologies, new investment, and increases in labor productivity, which raised consumers’ incomes and purchasing power. In contrast, in the 21st century, economic growth has resulted from debt expansion.
Most Americans have experienced little, if any, income growth in the 21st century. Instead, consumers have kept the economy going by maxing out their credit cards and refinancing their mortgages in order to consume the equity in their homes.
The income gains of the 21st century have gone to corporate chief executives, shareholders of offshoring corporations, and financial corporations.
By replacing $20 an hour U.S. labor with $1 an hour Chinese labor, the profits of U.S. offshoring corporations have boomed, thus driving up share prices and “performance” bonuses for corporate CEOs. With Bush/Cheney, the Republicans have resurrected their policy of favoring the rich over the poor. John McCain captured today’s high income cl***** with his quip that you are middle cl***** if you have an annual income less than $5 million.
Financial companies have made enormous profits by securitizing income flows from unknown risks and selling *****et backed securities to pension funds and investors at home and abroad.
Today recession is only a small part of the threat that we face. Financial deregulation, Alan Greenspan’s low interest rates, and the belief that the market was the best regulator of risks, have created a highly leveraged pyramid of risk without adequate capital or collateral to back the risk. Consequently, a wide variety of financial institutions are threatened with insolvency, threatening a collapse comparable to the bank failures that shrank the supply of money and credit and produced the Great Depression.
Washington has been slow to recognize the current problem. A millstone around the neck of every financial institution is the mark-to-market rule, an ill-advised “reform” from a previous crisis that was blamed on fraudulent accounting that over-valued *****ets on the books. As a result, today institutions have to value their *****ets at current market value.
In the current crisis the rule has turned out to be a curse. *****et backed securities, such as collateralized mortgage obligations, faced their first market pricing in panicked cir*****stances. The owner of a bond backed by 1,000 mortgages doesn’t know how many of the mortgages are good and how many are bad. The uncertainty erodes the value of the bond.
If significant amounts of such untested securities are on the balance sheet, insolvency rears its ugly head. The bonds get dumped in order to realize some part of their value. Merrill Lynch sold its *****et backed securities for twenty cents on the dollar, although it is
unlikely that 80 percent of the instruments were worthless.
The mark to market rule, together with the suspect values of the *****et backed securities and collateral debt obligations and swaps, allowed short sellers to make fortunes by driving down the share prices of the investment banks, thus worsening the crisis. With their capitalization shrinking, the investment banks could no longer borrow. The authorities took their time in halting short-selling, and short-selling is set to resume on October 3 or thereabout.
If the mark to market rule had been suspended and short-selling prohibited, the crisis would have been mitigated. Instead, the crisis intensified, provoking the US Treasury to propose to take responsibility for $700 billion more in troubled financial instruments in addition to the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and AIG bailouts. Treasury guarantees are also apparently being extended to money market funds.
All of this makes sense at a certain level. But what if the $700 billion doesn’t stem the tide and another $700 billion is needed? At what point does the Treasury’s *****umption of liabilities erode its own credit standing?
This crisis comes at the worst possible time. Gratuitous wars and military spending in pursuit of US world hegemony have inflated the federal budget deficit, which recession is further enlarging. M*****ive trade deficits, magnified by the offshoring of goods and services, cannot be eliminated by US export capability.
These large deficits are financed by foreigners, and foreign unease has resulted in a decline in the US dollar’s value compared to other tradable currencies, precious metals, and oil.
The US Treasury does not have $700 billion on hand with which to buy the troubled *****ets from the troubled institutions. The Treasury will have to borrow the $700 billion from abroad.
The dependency of Treasury Secretary Paulson’s bailout scheme on foreign willingness to absorb more Treasury paper in order that the Treasury has the money to bail out the troubled institutions is heavy proof that the US is in a financially dependent position that is inconsistent with that of America’s “superpower” status.
The US is not a superpower. The US is a financially dependent country that foreign lenders can close down at will.
Washington still hasn’t learned this. American hubris can lead the administration and Congress into a bailout solution that the rest of the world, which has to finance it, might not accept.
Currently, the fight between the administration and Congress over the bailout is whether the bailout will include the Democrats’ poor constituencies as well as the Republicans’ rich ones. The Republicans, for the most part, and their media shills are doing their best to exclude the ordinary American from the rescue plan.
A less appreciated feature of Paulson’s bailout plan is his demand for freedom from accountability. Congress balked at Paulson’s demand that the executive branch’s conduct of the bailout be non-reviewable by Congress or the courts: “Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion.” However, Congress substituted for its own authority a “board” that possibly will consist of the bailed out parties, by which I mean Republican and Democratic constituencies. The control over the financial system that the bailout would give to the executive branch would mean, in effect, state capitalism or fascism.
If we add state capitalism to the Bush administration’s success in eroding both the US Constitution and the power of Congress, we may be witnessing the final death of accountable constitutional government.
The US might also be on the verge of a decision by foreign lenders to cease financing a country that claims to be a hegemonic power with the right and the virtue to impose its will on the rest of the world. The US is able to be at war in Iraq and Afghanistan and is able to pick fights with Iran, Pakistan and Russia, because the Chinese, the Japanese and the sovereign wealth funds of the oil kingdoms finance America’s wars and military budgets. Aside from nuclear weapons, which are also in the hands of other countries, the US has no *****ets of its own with which to pursue its control over the world.
The US cannot be a hegemonic power without foreign financing. All indications are that the rest of the world is tiring of US arrogance.
If the US Treasury’s *****umption of bailout responsibilities becomes excessive, the US dollar will lose its reserve currency role. The minute that occurs, foreign financing of America’s twin deficits will cease, as will the bailout. The US government would have to turn to the printing of paper money as did Weimar Germany.
For now this pending problem is hidden from view, because in times of panic, the tradition is to flee into “safety,” that is, into US Treasury debt obligations. The safety of Treasuries will be revealed by the extent of the bailout.
Secretary Paulson’s taxpayer hedge fund
Karl S. Okamoto
Philadelphia Inquirer
September 24, 2008
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson’s $700 billion bailout of Wall Street essentially places the federal government at the helm of the world’s biggest hedge fund.
After all, isn’t that what this bailout is proposing to do with taxpayers’ money?
Under the plan, Paulson will invest $700 billion – at his discretion, with no strings – into so-called mortgage-related *****ets.
That sure sounds like a hedge fund.
So shouldn’t we – or the fiduciaries we’ve elected to Congress – ask some of the same questions an investor would ask before putting his or her money into a hedge fund?
For example: Secretary Paulson, how do you plan to make money?
Apparently, the plan is to buy mortgage-related securities and hold them until the current crisis p*****es. Everyone understands that a buy-and-hold strategy can make money provided that you buy low and sell higher.
But since the purpose of this new fund is to allow banks to unload inflated securities in order to avoid significant further write-downs, Secretary Paulson is looking to launch his new hedge fund by buying in at prices that are higher than the prevailing market price.
In other words, Paulson seems to be overpaying.
Of course, it may well turn out that in time, as markets stabilize, he still may recover his costs and even earn a profit.
But Paulson is certainly not starting out with the goal of making money.
The shadow banking system is unravelling
Nouriel Roubini
Financial Times
September 24, 2008
Last week saw the demise of the shadow banking system that has been created over the past 20 years. Because of a greater regulation of banks, most financial intermediation in the past two decades has grown within this shadow system whose members are broker-dealers, hedge funds, private equity groups, structured investment vehicles and conduits, money market funds and non-bank mortgage lenders.
Like banks, most members of this system borrow very short-term and in liquid ways, are more highly leveraged than banks (the exception being money market funds) and lend and invest into more illiquid and long-term instruments. Like banks, they carry the risk that an otherwise solvent but liquid institution may be subject to a self fulfilling and destructive run on its liquid liabilities.
But unlike banks, which are sheltered from the risk of a run – via deposit insurance and central banks’ lender-of-last-resort liquidity – most members of the shadow system did not have access to these firewalls that prevent runs.
A generalised run on these shadow banks started when the deleveraging after the *****et bubble bust led to uncertainty about which institutions were solvent. The first stage was the collapse of the entire SIVs/conduits system once investors realised the toxicity of its investments and its very short-term funding seized up.
The next step was the run on the big US broker-dealers: first Bear Stearns lost its liquidity in days. The Federal Reserve then extended its lender-of-last-resort support to systemically important broker-dealers. But even this did not prevent a run on the other broker-dealers given concerns about solvency: it was the turn of Lehman Brothers to collapse. Merrill Lynch would have faced the same fate had it not been sold. The pressure moved to Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs: both would be well advised to merge – like Merrill – with a large bank that has a stable base of insured deposits.
Local Surveillance to Plug Into Homeland Security Camera System
News Bureau
September 24, 2008
If you have ever been curious in regards to what appears as camera housing situated in public places, you may be amazed that a variety of them are part of the Homeland Security camera system network.
Not all of these cameras, and not in all cities and towns are part of it, yet an ever increasing number of cameras that are in existence in the majority of cities are joining forces with different government agencies in their ongoing fight against domestic terrorism.
There have been numerous cities that have installed cameras to maintain close surveillance on big public *****emblies, for instance the White House as well as around various national memorials and monuments to help identify difficulties with crowds.
The capability to have these cameras networked together into a much bigger, national type of network is giving the Homeland Security Camera System the ability to grow through the use of extra cameras from communities all around the country.
For people who don’t comprehend that this is possible, think for a moment of the internet’s availability to access your personal computer from anyplace on the planet by simply signing onto a computer and then going to a website on the network.
Begin at your home network, if there is more than one computer that is connected to internet access by way of a hub, you have the capability of get access to anything on one computer from any other computer, if in fact you have the right authorization.
If for example you have cameras that are connected to a network at your office, then access the work computer from your house, you can then bring up images connected to your work computer from your house. This is a similar system that the Homeland Security Camera system utilizes to add additional cameras and resources onto their existing systems.
Surveillance System Rapidly Growing In Size
Because the infrastructure is already in place in many of the larger communities, it is actually a simply task for the Homeland Security camera computer to connect to the city camera computer and get access to the images of that computer.
Certainly, you have to have permission that is granted by the community for the Homeland Security camera system to take the images from the computer. Safeguards are also put in place to stop the homeland computer from getting any type of control over a communities camera system.
The majority of Homeland Security cameras that are being utilized are not just static types of cameras. There are numerous types that are equipped with accessibility through remote means so that they can pan, zoom and tilt to more effectively monitor people or events that are within viewing range to *****ist in fighting the possible threat of either domestic or global terrorism.
While there are people that are not comfortable with knowing that the local and federal government can hook into any community that they want with a camera system and ***** up images from anywhere, the majority of people realize the significance of having a constant vigil for the purpose of national security.
eddiedollars
You have officially worn me out. . .This is like a battle of the long posts. . .I think any point I was trying to make has probably been lost. . .
Have a good morning
Predictions vs. Reality in Iraq
Ron Paul
Texas Straight Talk
September 24, 2008
On September 10, 2002 I asked 35 questions regarding war with Iraq. The war resolution p*****ed on October 16, 2002. Now today, as some of my colleagues try to reestablish credentials regarding spending restraint, I want to call attention to my 18th question from six years ago:
I warned of a draining 30-year occupation. Now, politicians glibly talk about a 100-year occupation as if it is no big deal.
“Are we willing to bear the economic burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 year occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to “build democracy” there?”
Many scoffed at my “radical” predictions at the time, regarding them as hyperbole. Six years later, I am forced to admit that I was wrong. My “radical” predictions were in fact, not “radical” enough.
I warned of a draining 30-year occupation. Now, politicians glibly talk about a 100-year occupation as if it is no big deal. On cost, according to estimates from the Congressional Research Service, we have already burned through around $550 billion in Iraq, at a rate of about $2 billion per week. Economist Joseph Stiglitz’s estimates are even higher, at $12 billion a month. It is a total price tag quickly heading into the trillions, if we don’t stop bombing and rebuilding bridges in Iraq that lead us nowhere but bankruptcy! Bridges in this country are crumbling along with our economy, while some howl about earmarks. Earmarks are a drop in the bucket compared to war and occupation.
Yes, I was wrong about Iraq. I knew it would be bad. I didn’t know it would be this bad.
The American people deserve better. Being asked to endorse such a farce is beyond insulting. Clearly, the rosy predictions of the neo-Conservatives from before the war are not coming true. Far from it! With a straight face, one official estimated the TOTAL cost of reconstruction in Iraq would be just $1.7 billion. Turns out that we spend more than that in ONE WEEK. Our friends are not pitching in to cover the cost. Expenses are not being covered by oil from a grateful and liberated Iraqi people. Rather, big corporate interests are benefitting, the price of oil has more than quadrupled, and the American economy is on its knees and sinking fast.
No one predicted the exact course of this war before it started. But to continue to listen to the foreign policy advice of those that were the MOST offbase will only lead to more foreign policy disasters. We need to keep this in mind as we think about Russia, Iran, Cuba and other countries. Keep in mind – the doomsday predictions on the Iraq War from six years ago, sound like a cakewalk today. While what leaders in the administration had predicted, reads like a fairytale. Ask yourself, when listening to the same foreign policy “experts” explaining situations around the world and suggesting policy positions: In light of the facts of today, and the predictions of yesterday, how expert have they shown themselves to be?
P*****ing HR 2605 to sunset authorization for the use of force in Iraq is the first step to stopping this ***** war, and the consequent bleeding of our treasuries. Serious fiscal conservatives will support it, as will those who have been paying attention to foreign policy predictions and reality.
U.S. Troops In Homeland “Crowd Control” Patrols From October 1st
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, September 24, 2008
U.S. troops returning from duty in Iraq will be carrying out homeland patrols in America from October 1st in complete violation of Posse Comitatus for the purposes of helping with “civil unrest and crowd control” – which could include dealing with unruly Americans after a complete economic collapse.
The deployment of National Guard troops to aid law enforcement or for disaster relief purposes is legal under the authority of the governor of a state, but using active duty U.S. Army in law enforcement operations inside America absent the conditions described in the Insurrection Act is completely illegal.
This shocking admission was calmly reported on September 8th by the Army Times website, which reports that from the beginning of next month the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team “Will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.”
The article notes that the deployment “marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated *****ignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.”
The purpose of the unit’s patrols includes helping “with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as m*****ive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.”
The unit will be on homeland patrol for at least 20 months before returning to Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, according to the report.
Training for homeland operations has already begun at Fort Stewart and at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs.
Ominously, the report states that, “The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.”
The unit would also be deployed to deal with hostile crowds of Americans in the aftermath of a m*****ive economic depression, potential food riots and race riots, if one defines the term “crowd control” to match its reasonably applicable scenarios.
The open admission that U.S. troops will be involved in law enforcement operations as well as potentially using non-lethal weapons against American citizens is a complete violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act, which substantially limit the powers of the federal government to use the military for law enforcement unless under precise and extreme cir*****stances.
Section 1385 of the Posse Comitatus Act states, “Whoever, except in cases and under cir*****stances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”
Under the John Warner Defense Authorization Act, signed by President Bush on October 17, 2006, the law was changed to state, “The President may employ the armed forces to restore public order in any State of the United States the President determines hinders the execution of laws or deprives people of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law or opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.”
However, these changes were repealed in their entirety by HR 4986: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, reverting back to the original state of the Insurrection Act of 1807.
The original text of the Insurrection Act severely limits the power of the President to deploy troops within the United States.
For troops to be deployed, a condition has to exist that, “(1) So hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or cl***** of its people is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or (2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.”
Is the Bush administration and Northcom waiting for such a scenario to unfold, an event that completely overwhelms state authorities, before unleashing the might of the U.S. Army against the American people?
The deployment of National Guard troops to aid law enforcement or for disaster relief purposes is legal under the authority of the governor of a state, but using active duty U.S. Army in law enforcement operations inside America absent the conditions described in the Insurrection Act is completely illegal.
With the promise of an “October surprise” on behalf of Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda being bandied about by the media and the potential for civil unrest should a complete collapse of the U.S. economy unfold, the presence of U.S. troops inside America, returning fresh from kicking down doors, arresting “insurgents” and taking them to internment camps in Iraq, should put Americans on alert and provoke urgent questions about the legality of U.S. Army units engaging in law enforcement operations against American citizens.
yesterday’s required reading… today…
THIS PIECE OF ***** WAS BROKEN BY HIS CAPTIVES IN VIETNAM AND TOOK FAVORS FROM THE ENEMY.THATS NOT IN THE CODE OF CONDUCT.HE ALSO CAME BACK TO HIS WIFE WHO WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED IN A CAR CRASH WHEN HE WAS IN HANOI HILTON AND LEFT HER FOR A 18 YEAR OLD YOUNGER WOMAN.DO YOU WANT THIS COWARD TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT? PLUS I HEARD HE WAS A ALSO A ***** SUCKING SENATOR IN THE AIRPORTS.
@Rozza♥
With all do respect
My be if President Bush was doing his Job we would not be in this mess!!!! I am sorry but we have been in a financial crisis for years and a 1 hour debate is not going change anything about the crisis!!
I don’t know about a time out. I just saw a McCain ad on NBC during the today show. I’m tempted to write to CNN and ask them to please explain that to viewers.
What they are not saying is that Obama call McLame first requesting that they make a joint statement regarding the situation. McLame tried to one up him and suggest they suspend the debate and go to DC.
If his ***** didn’t graduate a few spots from the bottom of his cl***** and if he knew how to use a computer or multitask then it wouldn’t be a problem.
My question is when did George boy bush whacker call them to request they come to DC as he stated in his speech? Was it after he found out that McLame made his request and Obama rejected it.
The way I see it:
You have two guys playing a game of chess, one knows how to play and studied hard to learn the game. The other player is not even in the same league. All he can do is talk ***** and try to distract the crowd for focusing on him losing. His back is against the wall so he pretends to sneeze and knock over all the pieces. Anybody with one brain cell knows he was getting his proverbial ***** kicked.
If his ***** didn’t graduate a few spots from the bottom of his cl***** and if he knew how to use a computer or multitask then it wouldn’t be a problem
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@ JUST SAYING
LMAO!!!!
@eddiedollars215(Check me out!)
THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS IS NOT A VALID OPTION FOR ME… WE MUST DENOUNCE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM/PROCESS AS CORUPT… NO OFFENSE BUT YOU AT BEST HAVE A SURFACE LEVEL KNOWLEDGE OF SOME ISSUES… BUT I TRULY THINK YOU MAY BE A LITTLE NIEVE TO HOW THINGS REALLY WORK…
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Now, Eddie, yesterday I said that I too believe in aboloshing our staunch two party system. What are you doing to help inform Americans about our options outside of voting Democrat or Republican?
And another thing.
Who in the Fu#k is he to try and dictate what they should do and does bush whacker think he is trying to tell them both to come to DC.
Obama should call a spade a spade and say the bush just wants to help mclame out because he is losing and will get crushed in a debate.
Obama should give them the numbers.
When did he send his email?
When did bush contact him?
I think you will see that Obama made the first move, mclame tried to upstage him and request that they go to DC (he skurd of the debate). Mclame called bush and asked him to request they both come to DC. Bush put it in his speech to try and help mclame out.
Now the ball is in Obama’s hands!
We all know he’s a baller!
Will he give him a cross over and brake his old ankles?
or
Will he drive it to the hole and slam it in the wrinkled face?
IMHO He should give him a cross over and slam it in his face and hang on the rim till the gl***** breaks! Look him dead in the face, nose to nose and yell, “Black is da New President, *****”!
Just Sayin
@Just Saying
My question is when did George boy bush whacker call them to request they come to DC as he stated in his speech? Was it after he found out that McLame made his request and Obama rejected it.
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I was wondering the SAME THING! I caught Bush’s speech just in time to hear that! I was LIVID!!!!!!
THIS IS A DESPERATE MOVE!! HE’S DOING THIS SO THE DEBATE CAN BE POSTPONED TO THE DAY PALIN AND BIDEN ARE SUPPOSED TO DEBATE! HE KNOWS SHE’S GONNA GET TORN TO SHREDS SO HE HAD TO COME UP WITH A WAY FOR HER NOT TO DEBATE AT ALL!!!
@Shavon Denise
I know grrl I was thinking the same damn thing. 2hrs before the debate the economic crisis will still be there just like it would 2 hrs after the debate unless he just got GOD on speed dial to clear this whole mess up, he being a coward. You can always call on Obama to deal with this after the debate…
all his talk about how Obama never agreed to a debate and when the man finally do, you see that he’s actually a threat to you and you wanna punk out. We just had 1 punk ***** president. we don’t need another for 4 or 8 more years.
Laura Bush went on a t.v interview with CNN and was asked if Palin had any Foreign Policy experience and her response was.. of course Palin doesn’t have any Foreign Policy experience.. but she’s a quick learner. i hear there are many republicans that aren’t too happy with Laura bush right now. LOL!
McLame is gettng that same feeling he had when he was in school. Oh *****… we got a test on Friday and I know I’m gonna get called on. I didn’t even study! :-/
I told everybody that I would get a higher score then that black kid. WTF am I gonna do!
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam… Ooooo I got an idea, call in sick.
*****…, how do you use a cell phone?
dang eddiedollars my eyes hurt already, couldn’t you just edit out the important stuff…lol
@ WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little(Check me out!)
@Just Saying
My question is when did George boy bush whacker call them to request they come to DC as he stated in his speech? Was it after he found out that McLame made his request and Obama rejected it.
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I was wondering the SAME THING! I caught Bush’s speech just in time to hear that! I was LIVID!!!!!!
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ME TOO!!!!!!! I was *****ed to the highest of pistivity!!!!!!!!!!
This is where Biden could put the crush on them is the reveal the timeline when things took place.
This is worst then the guy getting charge with *****ault for fartin on a cop and fanning it in his face.
Obama got these suckahs running SKURRED!!! I love it!
the president needs to be able to multi-task and they both have jets that can fly them somewhere in the blink of the eye. Mccain is lame
To be honest – they can debate the economy in front of the American public. If this meeting is held behind closed doors to the public, I believe they will STEAL Obama’s ideas. Because if McPain had any clues/ideas himself – he would be speaking them to the American Public and leaving Obama in the wind. Obama just needs to be careful w/Bush Administration because they are the Gangsters without the Hood.
McLame should be in an episode of OZ cause his ***** ***** would fit right in.
DID ANYBODY SEE SARAH PALIN’S LAME ***** INTERVEIW WITH KATIE COURIC YESTERDAY? ONCE AGAIN SHE COULDN’T ANSWER A SINGLE QUESTION ABOUT MCCAIN’S ABILITY TO LEAD OR ON ANYTHING HE HAS DONE.
THIS DUMB ***** EVEN TOLD KATIE SHE WOULD WRITE DOWN HER QUESTIONS AND GET BACK WITH HER.
Man, this sh^t has taught me so much, that’s all I can say.
That’s a punk move so please don’t fall for the okie doke Obama!!! DEBATE his old sorry, tired, clueless, out-of-touch azz anyway!!!!
I know that it’s not even a competition, Obama’s going to blow his dusty azz out of the water and straight into a nursing home!!!
If McCain is a ***** for calling off one debate for our economy then I guest that *****ama is a SUPER ***** for refusing to have town hall debates with McCain when it *****AMA himself said that he would have them. *****AMA IS A MAJOR ***** AND ALL HE DOES IS GIVES SPEECHES!!!!!!
@Eddie Dollars
If you are on this thread…have you checked out Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars yet?
From the Washington Post Blogs (aka the Swamp)
After McCain tried to bail from debate, Bush bailed him from embarr*****ment.
Posted September 25, 2008 7:00 AM
by Mark Silva
www(dot)swamppolitics(dot)com/news/politics/blog/2008/09/mccains_bailout_bush_to_the_re(dot)html
Talk about bailouts.
John McCain had just made one of the riskiest, and perhaps costliest, moves of his presidential campaign, in attempting to bail out of the first televised debate of the candidates so that he could return to Washington, rise “above politics” and concentrate on the federal bailout of the nation’s bad mortgage debt underway.
Barack Obama, for his part, had no intention of forgoing the first debate, and voiced some dismay in allowing that, yes, McCain had talked to him about skipping the debate when the two spoke by telephone yesterday but then the next thing Obama heard, McCain was announcing that he had decided to skip Friday night’s debate and he was calling on the president to summon a meeting of congressional leaders and both of the presidential candidates, senators, of course..
But the debate was on, Obama maintained later, ultimately accepting the president’s invitation to that meeting today but leaving McCain looking like something less than the statesman which he was attempting to play with this call for putting “country first.”
McCain, in turn, was looking somewhat desperate in the odd, campaign-suspending transaction. For many long months now, McCain and Obama have waged a close contest for the White House, if the polls are any judge – and they are.
They went into their summer nominating conventions in a dead heat nationally, and they came out of their conventions – after the “bounces” of their own unique events, Obama’s appearance before 80,000 people filling a football stadium in Denver, and McCain’s selection of a suddenly popular Sarah Palin for a running mate – in another virtual tie.
And then something happened: An economic crisis of proportions unseen since the Great Depression started unfolding. And Obama’s numbers started climbing, with voters telling the pollsters – by double-digit margins – that they view Obama as better-suited than McCain to handle the economic crisis.
After months of staring one another down, and with Obama’s political fortunes suddenly ramping up with a crisis that even President Bush was now willing to characterize as the start of a “long and painful recession” if the government does not act, the senior senator from Arizona blinked. He pulled what Democrat Barney Frank called a “Hail Mary p*****,” with MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews dismissing it as more McCain “razzle dazzle.”
“We’re ’suspending’ the campaign,” late night comedy host David Letterman said last night, stood up by slated-guest McCain — with Letterman derisively suggesting that this is not the “hero” McCain whom he knows. “Are we suspending the campiagn because there’s an economic crisis, or because the poll numbers are sliding?”
“What John McCain was thinking was, this was a close race,” said Doug Schoen, a pollster who served President Clinton – someone who knows about running on the economy, and perhaps running one as well. “He was slightly ahead and then the economy became the issue and all of a sudden he is nine points behind.”
That 9-point gap is the result of the newest ABC News and Washington Post measure this week, coming from a survey that found the two candidates virtually tied two weeks before – now a Democrat was topping 50 percent for the first time in an ABC/Post poll. It found voters, by a 14-point margin, more confident in Obama’s ability to handle the economy than McCain’s.
McCain somberly stepped to a podium on Wednesday and declared that he was “suspending” his campaign, starting today, returning to Washington and giving full attention to the resolution of the financial bailout that the Bush administration is pressuring Congress to enact before adjournment for the fall elections.
“His comments were a tacit indication that he sees the economy as literally taking over the campaign and the country,” Schoen told the Tribune. “It has become all-pervasive.”
And why shouldn’t it be pervasive in this campaign, judging from the president’s own dramatic comments televised to the nation last night: “We’re in the midst of a serious financial crisis… Without immediate action by Congress, America could slip into a financial panic, and a distressing scenario would unfold… More banks could fail, including some in your community. The stock market would drop even more, which would reduce the value of your retirement account. The value of your home could plummet… And ultimately, our country could experience a long and painful recession.”
So what is Bush doing to push his $700 billion bail-out through Congress? Not only going on national television, prime-time, but also summoning that meeting of congressional leadership today, leaders from both houses and from both parties – and also two senators who have been out on the road a lot lately, Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Barack Obama of Illinois.
At 4 pm EDT, the leaders and candidates will join the president in the Cabinet Room of the White House for a closed-door session starting with, of course, a photo opportunity at the top.
The meeting may not be all that necessary, however. It seems that congressional leaders are close to an agreement already, and the president signaled his own willingness to compromise on the question of limiting the profits that financial executives extract from this buyout. Basically, they’re nearly ready to deal.
But what better cover for the Republican presidential nominee’s bail-out from the campaign and sudden return to Washington than a presidential pardon of sorts, an invitation from the president to both of the presidential candidates to join them all in resolving this crisis together: Bush’s personal bail-out
The question, then, is whose meeting is it? McCain asked for it. Bush called it.. And Obama is going to it. Clearly, it’s the Republicans’ meeting, and the Democrats are ready to do business — so, effectively, McCain has claimed the higher ground that he was seeking: Attending to the affairs of state in front of the affairs of the campaign.
Effectively, the ground campaign of these two will be suspended for the day – though there are precious photos to be gained from their appearances in the Cabinet Room.
With this hastily summoned meeting, Bush has bailed McCain out of a jam, for a day. Suddenly, this is the senator who can organize a pow-wow at the White House.
Yet the debate remains another question. McCain already has suggested that, if Congress can reach a deal by Friday he will be prepared to go through with the debate. Of course he will. McCain is the one who has demanded more debates all along.
Should McCain really bail out, imagine the Commission on Presidential Debates plowing ahead with a solo appearance by Obama on stage at the University of Mississippi in Oxford. At that point, the campaign would effectively be suspended for good. Should Obama concede to the postponement, it ultimately will become McCain’s responsibility for scuttling the first, long-awaited debate of a contest that Americans are getting ready to settle on their own. They will settle it on their specific terms, not on McCain’s or Obama’s.
you see that’s why we need obama in the house , the world(united states), Still needs to be ran and that’s what a president does in a crisis MULTI-TASK. i think the debate should going on, the problem we have in the world are still going to be here, and we need someone who can handle them all at one time.
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@claroliza(Check me out!)
redd tony aka earth sign and black con:
I’ve been rarely post on Bossip, lately I just come for a few laughs then leave. But I had to respond to your messages. While I am glad to read about your well-thought out perspectives, there’s no need to insult other people’s political views on this board. it takes away from whatever point you are trying to make.
I am a moderate Democrat voting for Sen.Obama. Yes, i know where he stands on the issues I care about. but at the end of the day, I am voting with my heart because I believe in Obama’s vision, integrity, character and world view.
And no, I am not an ignorant, ghetto liberal who’s drinking the kool aid and still living on the plantation. I am a well-paid, young professional woman who studied politics and media at a private, respected university.
lastly, as part of my undergradute studies I took several courses in political science. and guess what? it’s been found that voter behavior is largely influenced by socialization, geography, informal interactions and yes emotions. so, all this talk that people on this board are dumb because they’re voting with the hearts is irrelevant. republican, democrat or independent voters rarely choose a candidate based only on issues.
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I respect your comments. Interesting points about your political studies especially when you said “that voter behavior is largely influenced by socialization, geography, informal interactions and yes emotions”. This is true, however the media is controling the emotions and perceptions of the voters. Have you noticed that Fox News for example on the National level is more for McCain (so called conservative)however Fox news in your local town seems to be more liberal? This can breed misconception and flawed perception right there..My point is people need think out of the box, stop eating the propaganda from the media, the closely anaylize the facts, and ask yourself why is this happening.
What I think is this. Obama supporters are very staunch supporters and have been for quite some time. Barack can do no wrong right now. I don’t care how many negatives are brought to light, people are not waivering in their opinion of him. I feel like people are focusing too much on the historical aspect of this election and not much on substance. This was made obvious during the primaries..and I knew Hillary could not win, because Obama could do no wrong. Allow me to pose this series of questions and be honest about your answers:
Would you support a candidate who:
Is friends with a domestic terrorist who thinks 9/11 was justified.
Lies about his relatives involvement in WWII
Is on the board of Wal-Mart
Is on the board of a Chicago Hospital that overcharges minorities 60% more than whites
Has never bothered to vote on over 120 bills
Is a current member of the Black Liberation Group
Has accepted campaign money from slumlords
Has no legislative accomplishments to speak of
He has yet to address black issues such as Jena 6, Katrina. Yet he speaks about Latinos and Jews constantly
Supported ***** Cheney’s oil bill
Has no clear plan on pulling out of the War
I just don’t know about him at all…..but if you’re a true Obama supporter….ride on playa! I cannot vote for him. I want a black man in office, but I want the Right black man in office. Not a guy who has fancy speeches and has no substance at all.
@ eddie dollars if thats the case
then why dont YOU run for office?
get your ***** off that couch and instead of typing what should be done
get out there and do the damn thing…maybe you have a better plan for running this country?
put your “dollars” where ya mouth is!
You know this is some bull because neither John McCain nor Barack Obama are on the committee that will make the decision on the bailout…this dude & his clueless VP are gettin their butts kicked now that we are down to 40 days til the election and they r sca-red!!!! OBAMA/BIDEN 08′
What I think is this. Obama supporters are very staunch supporters and have been for quite some time. Barack can do no wrong right now. I don’t care how many negatives are brought to light, people are not waivering in their opinion of him. I feel like people are focusing too much on the historical aspect of this election and not much on substance. This was made obvious during the primaries..and I knew Hillary could not win, because Obama could do no wrong. Allow me to pose this series of questions and be honest about your answers:
Would you support a candidate who:
Is friends with a domestic terrorist who thinks 9/11 was justified.
Lies about his relatives involvement in WWII
Is on the board of Wal-Mart
Is on the board of a Chicago Hospital that overcharges minorities 60% more than whites
Has never bothered to vote on over 120 bills
Is a current member of the Black Liberation Group
Has accepted campaign money from slumlords
Has no legislative accomplishments to speak of
He has yet to address black issues such as Jena 6, Katrina. Yet he speaks about Latinos and Jews constantly
Supported ***** Cheney’s oil bill
Has no clear plan on pulling out of the War
I just don’t know about him at all…..but if you’re a true Obama supporter….ride on playa! I cannot vote for him. I want a black man in office, but I want the Right black man in office. Not a guy who has fancy speeches and has no substance at all.
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AND OBAMA IS STILL A BETTER CANDIDATE THAN MCCAIN!
ALL THIS ***** YOU WROTE ON OBAMA CAN BE FOUND ON ANY POLITICIAN/CANDIDATE IF YOU DIG HARD ENOUGH..NO POLITICAN IS PERFECT ACROSS THE BOARD THEY ALL HAVE THINGS ON THEIR RESUME THAT CONFLICT WITH THE INTEREST OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC, *****ODY HAS A PEFECT RECORD THAT PLEASES EVERYONE.
Stefany,
I agree with you on some points but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a candidate having direct ties to domestic terrorists….ever. If John McCain was buddies with Timothy McVeigh, people would be up in arms…so why allow this for Barack? How is Barack a better candidate than McCain? Name five legislative accomplishments of Barack. I’ll wait.
@Cash Rules-
Obama has repeatedly addressed the Ayers issue. He was a child when Ayers committed his crimes. He’s even said what Ayers did wasn’t right, even the Republicans are starting to lay off on the Ayers thing.
OBAMA was not the terrorist who detonated bombs.
NOW: McCain turned on the US gov’t when he was a POW, he has had several military members expose him on that. THEN he came home and LIED about it. He committed a crime and because of his family’s connections, he got away with lying to the tribunal or whoever he had to respond to.
He committed a banking scandal regarding the S&L, again he was able to commit a crime, LIE ABOUT IT, and get a slap on the wrist because of what he did.
MCCAIN has done wrong, Obama is *****ociated with someone who has done wrong, yet you want to harp on Obama.
Again, Obama didn’t light any fuses, yet everyone wants to attribute what Ayers did to him.
I am glad to see all you black conversatives hating on that african that got away Obama. I remember the good old days on the plantation when you were the 1st to volunteer to beat them darkies that got out of line. You just loved to hear the m*****a’s praises. You are good negroes who know that white comes first in society. Now why don’t them other negroes follow your example and stop causing trouble by electing a darkie to lead the white race. The Bible says and you good negroes should know because you go to church every Sunday and pray to “White Jesus” that the white man is superior to the darkie. Hell we ain’t so bad, when you all do right like Clarence Thomas we will look the other way when you marry a white woman and molest a black woman. So stop upsetting the order of things by going and electing a darkie.
The South Will Rise Again !!!
Papers91
“So much for a “stunt.”
John McCain got involved in the bailout negotiations after Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson told Sen. Lindsey Graham yesterday that the bailout plan would fail unless McCain came in and brought balky Republicans aboard. That’s what Bob Schieffer reported on this morning’s Early Show. Schieffer’s account stands in stark contrast with the allegation by Dems like Barney Frank and their MSM cohorts that McCain’s moves of yesterday were nothing more than a political “stunt.”
Here was Schieffer speaking with the Early Show’s Maggie Rodriguez at 7:05 AM EDT today:
BOB SCHIEFFER: I am told, Maggie, that the way McCain got involved in this in the first place, the Treasury Secretary was briefing Republicans in the House yesterday, the Republican conference, asked how many were ready to support the bailout plan. Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you’ve got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you’ve got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover. If you don’t do that, this whole bailout plan is going to fail. So that’s how, McCain, apparently, became involved.
Continued Schieffer . . .
SCHIEFFER: He has gotten what he wants, he’s going to have this meeting, kind of a summit today with the president and Barack Obama. I’m told that the leaders of both parties are getting close to having some kind of a bill. The question, though, is whether rank-and-file Republicans, especially, are going to vote for this.
And that’s where McCain comes in.”
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters
@Robert E Lee,
You’re boring me dummy!
@WhatsYoursIsMine,
But Ayers continues to support the Obama campaign. I never said Barack had a hand in those bombings but why does he continue to affiliate himself with a domestic terrorist. I never said I was voting for McCain either….so make sure you read my posts before responding.
I vote not on colors, blue vs Red, black vs white. I do believe that as far as mental capabilities Obama is in far better shape to provide good moral, and decisions based on his convictions. I was very skeptical of Obama initially, but when I saw that McCain campaign begin instituting the good ole boy system, and favoritism tactics, I felt they had no real substance to offer as a good campaigning, but they were merely into people pleasing. Truthfully I feel either you see through the deception of politics or are deceived by them, I just hope that everyone prays for discernment during this election, I can’t tell you how to vote, but my vote is for Obama! Oh by the way, side note: If there is anybody that knows how to do a lot with a little its black folks! Barackthenation.
I bet not one of you have a clue why we are in this mess right now.. can anyone guess.. probably not, so i’ll just tell you..
the DEMOCRATS p*****ed a subprime lending bill, in 1999, that would allow people to buy houses they couldn’t afford.. They actually let people use their unemployement and food stamps as part of their income, in order to meet the criteria to recieve a loan on a house they truely could not afford…
read that whole paragraph again.. please…
Now why the ***** do any of you think the current situation has ANYTHING to do with replublicans..
“”"This crisis was caused by political correctness being forced on the mortgage lending industry in the Clinton era”"”
SPEAK THE TRUTH..
and that my friends is the truth.. no spin, no bull*****, the absolute truth…
Oh and for you little keating 5 conspiracy theorists.. read this..
“”"First, I should tell your listeners I’m a registered Democrat, so I’m not on (McCain’s) side of a lot of issues. But I investigated John McCain for a year and a half, at least, when I was special counsel to the Senate Ethics Committee in the Keating Five. … And if there is one thing I am absolutely confident of, it is John McCain is an honest man. I recommended to the Senate Ethics Committee that he be cut out of the case, that there was no evidence against him.”
SPEAK THE TRUTH
The 700 Billion dollar bill, wow. Well Bill Clinton hung around us, Jan 1993 the deficit was high, you see how he left us in 2001 a 155 Billion dollar surplus when he left, and the bill when he came in was high as heaven. The Republicans have eaten that surplus up and left us with 500 billion dollar deficit, a trillion dollar debt, two wars ets.
Hey JJ..
let me educate you on something..
the reason clinton had a suprlus was because of the internet boom and the amount of taxes it created for america..
you think it actually had something to do with how bill ran the country.. youre insane sir…
and the surplus was already being eaten away, long before clinton left office..
@ me,
That’s what I’m saying! We don’t really have a good option either way. So I don’t know why people are whooping and hollering because Barack may win…..I actually have more faith in Cynthia McKinney than I do Barack and she’ll probably get my vote. I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade here, all I’m saying is please take a long unbiased look at Barack and then honestly make a decision. Don’t be caught up in the whirlwind of speeches and looks and rock star attention….really look at Barack for what he is. That’s all I’m saying! DO the research and dont’ vote on emotion. Abortion rights aren’t in danger and neither is Affirmative Action. I’m a democrat but I blame alot of this on my party. Remember when Nancy Pelosi got into the house and vowed two years ago that a blank check in support of war would stop? Well we’re still at war aren’t we. She has the power to override Bush and has failed to do so.
So, you have the democrats in office, that created a bill in 1999 that would allow people who could not afford homes, be allowed to buy homes…
Hence is exactly why we are in this mess right now..
They allowed people to use their unemployment and food stamps as part of their income, in order to meet the criteria to purchase a home.. a home they could not afford… so when the 5 year mark hit and their rates adjusted (which is what an ARM loan is) than they could no longer afford the payment.. the loan goes into default, the cost is absorbed by the bank holding the mortgage, and if you multiply that by about a million homes, well you get the economic crisis that we are in now..
Noone can dispute this, this is 100% TRUE..
So now tell me why anyone would even think of blaming this on the replublicans.. its was the democrats who introduced and p*****ed this bill..
a bill that would allow pedro to buy a house he couldn’t afford, and than default on the loan when his payment got too high..
and you people want to vote another politically correct democrat in office, with a democratic congress in power..
HOLY ***** YOU PEOPLE ARE SOME STUPID MOTHER *****ERS..
but whats truly funny is you think you’re voting to make a difference..
ABSOLUTELY INSANE..
now who wants to try and dispute me on the above.. huh huh huh..
that’s what I’m trying to say me…but some Barack supporters will have you believe that you are a sellout because you don’t support Obama. THE REAL SELLOUTS ARE THE ONES WHO DON’T VOTE AT ALL!!!! Remember that.
Cash..
Not too mention that obama had his political coming out party at Ayers house..
Holy *****, a domestic terrorist… at his house… and noone has a problem with this.. that is crazy…
I also find it funny the uneducated on this site that actually think McCain is afraid to debate obama..
This is a man with more than 20 years of experience in govt…. how the ***** do you think he’s afraid of speaking on the very thing he’s been doing for 20 X’s longer than obama.. i mean really…
I do computer work.. i have for 20 years… do you really think i’d have a problem debating computers with someone who just graduated college with a computer science degree.. HAHAHHAHAHA.. NO.. i’d laugh in their face and school them hard.. Id make them look silly…
Same concept goes with McCain.. The man is a political machine and will have no problems with someone as wet behind the ears as obama is…
@Me-
I don’t have a problem with William Ayers. Other members of the Weather Underground hold positions of importance in their communities and have tried to make up for what they did through their careers and volunteerism. I think it’s unfair that no one ever calls them into question nor the projects they work on or the politicians they’re involved with. Patty Hearst is considered a domestic terrorist, but she was taken into the limelight with open arms after her alleged “kidnapping and brainwashing.”
William Ayers and other members of the Weather Underground that are still alive and walked free have been allowed to live in peace after his indiscretions, and was well respected within the political sciences.
No one in the communities he’s helped cared about his past because he was redeeming himself through service. Because he supports Obama and helped him get into politics, Obama’s supposed to be dragged through the mud?
@me-
I do agree with you, I don’t believe John McCain is afraid to debate Obama. I believe the people running his campaign for him and speaking on his behalf are making several mistakes.
I was a big John McCain fan, and I’ve actually met the man. I’m sure I’ve posted it on here that I don’t believe this is the same man who ran for the Republican presidential nominee slot in 2000. He’s taken a beating from his party, but is now letting the same people who attempted to destroy him run his agenda for him.
I believe John McCain as an individual is above the attacks and lies coming from his campaign. It’s unsettling for me to watch what he’s doing and allowing to be done on his behalf.
Here’s a better picture for you, I serve my country, I also work on computer while doing so, do you know the real background of this POW who turned on the US, do you really know his academic progress in Annapolis, and how he did as he matriculated though school, in the Navy, as a Pilot who basically wasn’t good thus being shot down, he rise to his office thanks to his family lineage. Spare me the leadership qualities of McCain, you truly are supporters of he and Palin the way you underestimate the public’s awareness and discernment. Like the one you support I am sure you two will flip-flop on your views.
jj..
you shouldn’t *****ume.. you just look like an *****..
Whats yours..
I do agree on some of what you said, about dragging obama through the mud…
Mr ayers has said that he believes that he could of done more back than, that he could of made more destruction and killed more people.. and that he wasn’t ruling out future bombings.. the guy actually said that.. im not sure how that would be considered repenting.. or someone who is actually sorry for being a domestic terrorist.. it’s cause he’s not.. he’s happy he did it than, thought he could do more destruction and isnt ruling out future attacks..
that ***** is crazy.. and that is not the talk of a man who is sorry or is trying to do better through community service.. the man is a terrorists and should be shot..
but your man obama is good friends with this man.. and noone sees any issues with it..
blinded faith
LOL
Good afternoon all. . .
This is sort of off-topic, but has anyone here seen the new video circulating of Palin with Kenyan Pastor Muthee, and he’s praying over her to protect her from witchcraft?
@me,
Allow me to *****ume further, it’s civilian’s like you that are funny, no offense to anyone here who does not try to present hard key typing as a mirror image of themselves. You type thoroughly, but yet are probably the type that speaks in public cowardly. Even more so to the degree that you probably do not serve your country, probably don’t know the real strain it places on one’s self or family when there is a President in office who is not touch with every culture, who is not in touch with the economics in every community, who is not in touch with real life scenarios because their life has been scripted like a movie.
@CashRules-
I do not consider you a sell out for not voting for Obama. A sell out is someone who talks a ton of noise and votes for no one because they believe it doesn’t make a difference.
I never understand why people don’t vote. If you don’t pay taxes, it makes a difference. I think because no one comes up to force people to vote and hit them with penalties, people thinks it’s okay to not do so.
@Sydney(Check me out!)
Good afternoon all. . .
This is sort of off-topic, but has anyone here seen the new video circulating of Palin with Kenyan Pastor Muthee, and he’s praying over her to protect her from witchcraft?
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YES! I was blown away.
And to move from an emotional statement to a logical stance, there has been no bipartisan within this campaign but partisan. So, in seeing that why should I believe that your facts are based on nothing more as mere tactics to slander or degrade and tarnish a man’s image as much as you believing facts against McCain are? I believe that you waste your time, and truly are lost in the blog site, because most people decide early on whose past and history they are going believe over the others before they state who they are for openly, duh!
WhatsYoursIsMine
OK, so it wasn’t just me who was freaked out. I saw it last night on Olbermann, and it was very strange. ..Now why isn’t this all over the news?
@me,
When you want to talk politics please let me know, and by the way, this will be strictly freestyle, and not because I am sitting here using Google to learn everything to advise my thoughts.
Fu#k er-e-body who don’t like Obama!
Get yal shufflin, Alabama porch monkey, white hood wearin, sellin ya own people as slaves, blowin de white man ***** back to ya own blog cause you ain’t changin ***** up in here!
jj..
you’re right.. who cares about facts huh… lets all just vote for whoever has the hottest wife…DUH..
heres a fact for you..
many do not recall that Pres. Bush wanted to tighten oversight with a new regulatory board for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government recipients for the express purpose of addressing bad loan practices — and Democrats blocked it FIVE YEARS AGO!
and you want to vote in another democrat.. ?
and people blame this issue on the republicans and bush..?
now those are facts buddy..
Just sayin
Im sorry, i do not understand ebonics or whatever that jibberish is that you are spewing..
now if you’d like to talk intelligently, like you actually have an education and can form a proper sentence, with spelling and puncuation, than i maybe able to understand whatever it is you are trying to say.. until than you just look like you stepped out of the hood, and couldn’t hold a candle to anyone with more than a 5th grade education…
An excerpt from the second part of Katie Couric’s interview with Palin, which will air tonight. My goodness, she’s a genius!
Katie Couric: You’ve cited Alaska’s proximity to Russia as part of your foreign policy experience. What did you mean by that?
Sarah Palin: That Alaska has a very narrow maritime border between a foreign country, Russia, and, on our other side, the land-boundry that we have with Canada. It’s funny that a comment like that was kinda made to … I don’t know, you know … reporters.
Couric: Mocked?
Palin: Mocked, yeah I guess that’s the word, mocked.
Couric: Well, explain to me why that enhances your foreign-policy credentials.
Palin: Well, it certainly does, because our, our next-door neighbors are foreign countries, there in the state that I am the executive of. And there…
Couric: Have you ever been involved in any negotiations, for example, with the Russians?
Palin: We have trade missions back and forth, we do. It’s very important when you consider even national-security issues with Russia. As Putin rears his head and comes into the air *****e of the United States of America, where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right next to, they are right next to our state.
me
Do you wake up angry and ready to insult?
Sydney..
Angry? not angry… quite happy today.. it’s beautiful outside and im getting paid… whatever would i have to be angry about?..
Now the stupid comments on bossip, they don’t make me angry, they make me cringe in regards to the future of America…
The level of bull***** is so high that you need boots to wade through it all…
but its all good.. i’ll post my comments and facts and if one would like to read it, thats ones right.. if one wants to disregard and not read it, that too is ones right.. if one wants to try and disprove anything i said, that is also ones right… however, it is also my right to go anywhere i like, and type anything i like…
good ol’e America… where the dumb can continue to be dumb and the rest of us can just point and laugh..
@Me, Sir I had something’s that I would hope to reason with you for the sake of an argument that I choose Obama not because I am black, not because I was raised to voted blue because that color is for blacks, but after thinking about how you address it as “Ebonics, or whatever that means”. I know we are on two different pages, and talking to you via blog would be more reasoning typing on my part, while you would do more “Stereo-typing”. You’ve done well by selecting your screen name, because that all you have on this sight, oh and others like you. Good Day.
me
Hey, your condescension makes me cringe. . .
I guess we’re just too intellectually inferior for you — what’s your mission here, anyway?
JJ..
well than maybe it is you who could educate me?
What should i call the way “just sayin” was speaking.. is there a politically correct way for me to say he’s speaking like a retard… is there another word for it besides ebonics..
again, i don’t know the politically correct word that gets my point across, but doesn’t offend..
Should i just say “stop talking like a retard”.. would that be more PC for you..
@Me,
You have used improper casing of the letter, “I” in your statement. I am sure you can find it, thus me not having to show you where. You might want to recant the statement with the corrections, wouldn’t want anyone to think you’re not educated and detailed about comments that reflect one’s background as you have relayed to others, who properly in the midst of emotions are typing just as you, and have had an oversight.
jj..
ya, but alteast you knew what i was saying, right..??
right..
Im still not sure what “just sayin” was trying to say.. seriously..
but its all good.. if i get a wild hair up my *****, i’ll go find my typo… im sure there are many
I have a question @me why do you vote republican?
Sydney..
Hmm, last time i checked, there was no rule that said i had to have a mission..
Maybe i just like pointing out the shortcomings of others..
Maybe i just prefer to deal in facts, rather than continue to spew the bull***** i see flying around here…
Maybe im just trying to interject a voice of reason around here.. someone with an actualy counter point of view to all the one sided rhetoric that flies around this prejudice and racist site…
me
You’re white, correct? To me, you sound racist, so please work on your own shortcomings.
JJ..
what makes you think i vote republican?
Cause i don’t listen to the liberal media with all their left wing, one sided diatribe..
Cause i come here and actually post facts that don’t skew the numbers to the left..
Cause instead of jumping on the bandwagon, i choose to question any and all wagons…
Cause i dont’ jump on the “hate whitey, republicans and anyone who doesn’t agree with me, mentality..
Im actually independent… I dont’ vote one way or the other according to party lines..
Sydney..
what does my color have to do with anything.. typical bossip poster, only worried about color…
and i’d be prejudiced, not racist..
theres a HUGE difference between the 2
Heres a little statistic..
57% of whites are voting for McCain
96% of blacks are voting for obama..
Now you tell me who the prejudice people are..
me
You made your race an issue when you set out to belittle anyone, and everyone, who disagrees with your viewpoint, and you’re used racially incendiary language. The definition of racism is racial prejudice, so I think the description is appropriate. If you don’t like it, change your tone.
I’m worried about color? You seem to be preoccupied with it.
*you’ve used*
Sydney..
Im still not sure how pointing out that there are stupid people, that are commenting on this site, makes me somehow racist..
im also not sure how when someone says “Alabama porch monkey, white hood wearin, sellin ya own people as slaves, blowin de white man *****” to me, that im some how racist to point out their lack of education..
Im not sure how that makes me a racist… Did i call him a n*gger… NOPE..
Did i call him a porch monkey.. oh no, that was him who called me that…
So im not sure what the ***** you are talking about.. but it’s a good card to pull i guess… im sure you’re used to pulling that card when you have nothing else…
You interjected color into this conversation, not me… so go take your black/brown/white/purple/blue/yellow/red ***** to the corner and try and sell that ***** to someone else…
btw, i like my tone quite fine thank you..
Now does someone want to dispute the facts i wrote above, or are we alljust going to ignore them and continue blaming republicans for a poorly written democratic bill…
or we could all just distract from the real issues here and continue to talk about what color you are and what color iam.. i mean really..
me
You’ve admitted that you’re prejudiced, you ridicule the intelligence level of posters here (although there are a number of highly intelligent people here), and your rude condescension prohibits any real discourse on the “issues.” No, you don’t use the racial slurs, but, make no mistake, it’s clear that you think you’re educating the poor, ignorant m*****es here. Right?
@Me, will you be taking McCain’s place Friday, since your well educated on the facts?
Sydney..
Ugh, you are so clueless, so im sorry, but it’s obvious you and i cannot have a discussion, because of your preconcieved notions…
i did not say i was prejudice.. i said “I’d be prejudice, not racist” notice the I’D be, not I AM… if you need to go reread above, i’ll wait..
I ridicule the intelligence of lots of posters, not just here.. and not because of your color… are you that sensitive that you cannot be debated on without thinking someone is calling your color into question..
if that’s the case, i feel sorry for you.. stop being the victim.. geez..
JJ..
are you actually serious with that question. i mean really… ?
so instead of actually commenting on my above facts, you skew the conversation with something so far out in left field that all i can do is, wait what is it they say on this site, oh ya, SMDH..
me
Oh, that prejudice must have been a Freudian slip on my behalf, or just the truth. I must have hit a nerve.
So, you ridicule the intelligence of others? How you qualified to do so?
Methinks you are a legend in your own limited mind. . .
*how are*
well me thinks that you are unable to keep up with me, you haven’t disputed any of the facts i have posted..
oh no, that’s right, you just called me racist… wich i guess is your own little way of avoiding the subject.. it’s all good… diversions are the democrats specialty and i see you have embraced it for all its worth..
but honestly, i dont see myself as more qualified or smarter, i just merely read some opinions here, and instead of give an opinion or name call, i simply post facts that dispute the above opinions…
it’s all good though… i didn’t mean to make you all *****y, i was just trying to correct some incorrect information on here.. my apologies for offending..
good day maam..
You didn’t present solid facts that create a breach of character to me@me, you produce some personal connections that are biased and misleading, I can do the same for McCain, but I feel no need. Truth told if there were stone cold facts connecting Obama to anything terrorist, Sir, I hate to inform you of this, but America is not insane enough to let him become the democratic candidate for the highest office of the land. Spare me the Terrorist connection.
What about McCain signing of a letter of Propaganda to the Vietnamese? That’s all American toughness right @me?
me
See, again, that’s the condescension that I’m referring to — I can’t keep up with you?
OK, I have to laugh at you saying that diversions being the Democrats’ specialty, especially during this election. Come, come now. . .
Yes, you do think you’re smarter and you do use the immature tactic of calling others names — a lot. Maybe you just employ the Rush Limbaugh style of debate, lol.
No harm, no foul. Good day to you, too, sir.
me
And “racist” may have been too strong a word, so I’ll retract it. You can be aggressive, but there’s probably a more suitable word — arrogant, perhaps. It’s fine — I think we’re both a bit p*****ionate about political matters.
Sorry.
@me you seem young and full of zeal by the reading of your comments, which is good in a way. By having the idea that everyone would receive what you state or quote or read to be fact, since neither you nor I were with the people when the so called factual events have taken place. You don’t understand politics, you may understand fine print. In blogging since you allotted me the opportunity to educate you, we all presents words, maybe even links that lead to what we’ve read via the media, which can be your best friend or worst enemy. As blacks, we have not been invited to a lot of the media’s good standing parties, no race card just truth. The words that you keep stating as facts and swear that we should receive in like manner because you say that, have been played with tamper with to create likes and dislikes on behalf of both parties. Blogging is a place where most express their views, not the views of CNN, or Fox or etc…Because truth be told most of us of age have seen these facts come out one way, and then be changed or rearranged into another later on in time. So, if you want people to believe your facts as the end all be all, then start providing your facts, and by this not only you can come from behind the blog and be examine but your source as well, not questioning it, but just addressing it!
Great comments Me and JJ.
Why do you have to go as low as to call Palin “trash” and McCain “nikka”, I just don’t understand? If someone called Obama a ***** you would be raising hell. You are nothing but a racist. I don’t know why I am wasting my time with this comment you probably will not post it.
Hopefully we will take all of our p*****ion to the polls. If you have family or friends in a nursing home, make sure that their voice is heard. They have vans at most homes that will trnasport them we can take them ourselves in some cases & there’s always the absentee vote.
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@me aka undercover white as hell racist. FOOL you have no gas. Your step daddy “Bush” is about to leave the white house rich as hell, owning all that oil and *****! Leaving american dads, uncles, and sons overseas to die! AMERICAN PEOPLE, NOT ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WITH THIS REPUBLICAN BULL*****! Dont put @me’s uncle from his step daddy bush in office.
@me if you are the “great” aka *****ty ***** informist that you think you are. Why dont you get your ***** off of bossip get a news job and inform. BECAUSE us smart people is looking at and feeling this very disturbed economy at times. Look I even sounded dumb like you. “Us”, that’s really funny.
@me seriously, you are a real jack***** for all that bull***** you just wrote. McCain in office is just American suicide. People get ready to stand in line for your food, clothing, and other ***** besides gas. McCain and his protege palin aka witch doctor believing in, i can see russia from Alaska person, will ***** things up worst. These fools both went to six different colleges to even graduate. IT doesn’t even sound like Palin knows what she’s doing in Alaska. #1 for rape.And shes a woman, where was her support there, even for that issue. Know you are gonna convince American people that, she’s qualified to help take care of more than one state.
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