Question of The Day

Posted on September 25th, 2008 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: News, Uncategorized

Posted by Bossip Staff

The government is going to drop $700 billion in stacks to save corporations and Wallstreet. With the dumb Iraq war, that’s over 1 trillion.

Why can’t the government push $200 billion towards better schools, parental education support, and technology in the hood? Why are these greedy corporate mofo’s getting 700 billion when all the hood gets is some food stamps and an ebt card?

Discuss…

  • The Man

    I am FIRST

  • Hannibal

    SO…

  • The Man

    LOL, this is my first, first yippe. And to answer the question, because you let them to, to often people vote against their own interests, but then again ameircan democracy is joke.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Our government must learn you cannot continue to throw money at the problem and expect it to be fixed

  • Hannibal

    IF YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE PICTURE, LOOK WHAT IS SAYS…

  • Bean

    Our government is a greedy business and theres no money to be made from helping the needy…

  • wiznay

    Preach, Artis, Preach!!!

  • JJ

    Greed, not Capitalism!

  • kiky

    I’m just a bit curious. The Magazine HOLLYWOOD GOSSIP reported his profiles were found on the famous 30+ 40+ rich women seeking affairs site [ ____Seeking40plus COM_____ ] last week and he was seeking his mature baby there now!

  • Hannibal

    MONEY CAN’T EVEN HELP THE HOOD…

  • STOP TRIPPING!

    they don’t give a shyt about the hood and when, obama becomes president, he won’t give sh*t either!

  • Artis Williams

    Black men, pull up your pants, get a fresh and neat hair cut and be about something more then a hood star.

    Stop talking nonsense and make education your hustle.

  • MsCarter

    LOL@ putting the mouse over the picture!!!

  • Artis Williams

    Forget Lil Wayne, forget T.I., forget Snoop……who are these clowns when we got Barack Obama or Colin Powell ?

  • Kesha: 2-2 Sunday??? One can only hope(I BLEED BLACK-N-GOLD)

    Government bail out? No, more like we are bailing them out! The government doesn’t not exist without the people. THEY AINT GOT NO MONEY! That’s OUR (and when i say our, i mean the actual people that work, not the low-life sit at home to collect welfare b*tches) MONEY!

  • Kesha: 2-2 Sunday??? One can only hope(I BLEED BLACK-N-GOLD)

    All this means is HIGHER TAXES AND HIGHER GAS PRICES! So if you think shyt is tight now…GET READY!

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Hannibal(Check me out!)

    IF YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE PICTURE, LOOK WHAT IS SAYS…

    ________________

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    @Artis -Finally, an intelligent post!

  • uptowngirl

    Have yall just come to America? You don’t know how it goes down here? Money goes with money.

  • Oshie (“Scooby Dooby Doo! Mike Vic lookin’ boy…”)

    I want some food stamps! No really… anyone?

  • http://huemanity.blogspot.com Huemanity

    We are being stuck up! We are being ROBBED. The feds got us into this mess with their stupid affirmative action housing initiatives and allowing illegal immigrants to buy homes. You can’t force poor people to be responsible by giving them credit – it will always come back to haunt you.

    We are in this mess because we will not follow the rule of law. Any prosperous society is governed by laws that must be followed. Greed is the ultimate life destroyer. Greed with money, sex, drugs, etc will almost always end is despair.

    Money is supposed to buy you protection from the evils of the world – not THINGS.

    Until people learn to save and live within their means we will be right back here in thirty years.

  • http://rong.com Ron G

    im so pissed today, going to go rant to my nice looking white girlfriend.

  • http://huemanity.blogspot.com Huemanity

    @ Ron G.

    I agree that the government has to stop sponsoring out of wedlock births but that doesn’t mean these women don’t need some type of support. I also think black MEN need support as well. We have to stop thinking that these men being apart from their children is a good thing. Give them more access to education, job training and parental education programs…

  • The Bear

    @ PaigeyWaigey

    Bush may have been a C average student but he’s about to pull off the biggest heist in the history of mankind!!!! Not bad at all.

    I thought they stole enough money through Haliburton but clearly they had much bigger ideas… 700 billion times bigger.

    Damn they’re good.

  • Ms. Independent

    Instead of helping the corporations, the need to find those greedy CEO’s that made off with all that money and make their asses give that money to people in the hood that they conned some poor sap outt of and profitted from it. and then make them go live in the hood for the next 30 yrs and see how they fair?

  • The Bear

    Do you all think its a coincidence that this is all happening just before he leaves office?

  • blaq

    because corporations provide campaign contributions and offer jobs to politicians after their terms. And too many black people don’t vote, run for office in their communities, and otherwise don’t pay the political game. Kids can’t vote so no one really looks out for them. Overall we do not feel we have any power, the black middle class separates itself as much as possible from the lower class and blame everything on loose black women incarcerated black men and rap music. Although things can change we can get our measures on the ballots and elect officials and hold them accountable. Stop being afraid to speak up about these issues for fear we’ll be accused of playing the race card.

  • http://huemanity.blogspot.com Huemanity

    @ Cannon

    I agree that money will not help the hood because the hood has been given more money via non-profits, the governement and taes than any other community in America.

    The truth is we have to cut out these poisonous members of our community that refuse to get with the program. Every other race has done it so why don’t we. We have to stop giving these people excuses even they couldn’t come up with. We have to stop on a dime and correct any and all bad behavior we see in children – even if they are not ours.

    Cut the fat and we’ll start to see some real change. I believe most black folks want more for themselves but that’s not enough. Unless we are willing to kick these folks to the curb we will forever be linked to them.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    IF YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE PICTURE, LOOK WHAT IS SAYS…

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    LMAO @ Hannibal….these fools….

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Until the Black Family can sustain the test of time things will not improve..

    Black Fathers stand up

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    I’d like to see more money go to public schools…it’s only right, since I’m an education major.

  • The Bear

    @ Ron G

    I dont think you really get it. The meager help that is given to regular folks is nothing compared to the help the really rich folks get from the government.

  • JAD

    The government is set up for the rich to get richer. @Ron G…FYI More whites are on public assistance/welfare than blacks in this country. Read the literature.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Capitalism breeds greediness

  • nann

    damn, i co-sign Kesha. yall better get ready for wats to come bcuz its only gon get worse. i dont live in the usa but as ur neighbor and partner, we ‘sneeze when the usa has a cold’. and if ur government decides to go to war against russia, that will the ultimate moment in time that will announce the decline of the american reign. wit wat money will yall pay for dat shyt? n u got dat chick palin talkin bout she ready to go to war. i understand russia can b a major problem but yall got ur necks at water level, if u go to war, u will put ur head underwater forreal and ur government will count on u tax payers to help them out. and of course the poor will b poorer and the rich will have a few millies less in their bank accounts. brace urselves americans. nostradamus predicted this shyt. world war III from 2009-2012 against russia, the decline of the american empire, another great depression, etc. the day the jews announce they’re going back to build the temple and accept Christ as their savior: best believe the end of the world is coming. u wont have to worry bout food no more, u’ll b busy worryin bout if Christ will vouch for u in front of God when He makes a comeback.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    damn, i co-sign Kesha. yall better get ready for wats to come bcuz its only gon get worse. i dont live in the usa but as ur neighbor and partner, we ’sneeze when the usa has a cold’. and if ur government decides to go to war against russia, that will the ultimate moment in time that will announce the decline of the american reign. wit wat money will yall pay for dat shyt? n u got dat chick palin talkin bout she ready to go to war. i understand russia can b a major problem but yall got ur necks at water level, if u go to war, u will put ur head underwater forreal and ur government will count on u tax payers to help them out. and of course the poor will b poorer and the rich will have a few millies less in their bank accounts. brace urselves americans. nostradamus predicted this shyt. world war III from 2009-2012 against russia, the decline of the american empire, another great depression, etc. the day the jews announce they’re going back to build the temple and accept Christ as their savior: best believe the end of the world is coming. u wont have to worry bout food no more, u’ll b busy worryin bout if Christ will vouch for u in front of God when He makes a comeback.

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    Doubt if the US goes after Russia, its much more oil in Iran

  • Aunt Viv

    LOL @ Hannibal for “IF YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE PICTURE, LOOK WHAT IS SAYS…”

    But seriously, this ish is ugly all around, greed at its worst, and these Wall Street cats now get more money to fix the problem?

    There are some very good comments on here already. I think the current economic situation underscores the need for our people to equip ourselves with knowledge. I work a few blocks away from Wall Street and am so disturbed at how much these suits got away with at our expense.

  • Balls Deep – Get Rid of the Federal Reserve NOW!!!!!!!

    @All this means is HIGHER TAXES AND HIGHER GAS PRICES! So if you think shyt is tight now…GET READY!

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    Yes get ready people.. this is only the start of somthing bigger. Bush has really dug a big hole for us.. this 700 billion is the final act in his show.. I mean he dosn’t have to account for anything under the patriot act.. so it’s all for the”good” of security of the american people..

    But who is he protecting us or his pockets.

    The American people are being rapped and everyone is just standing and watching Bush and his people do what they want. SO SAD…………

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    If we go to war with Russia, we’ll all pretty much die. Ain’t no way two countries with advanced military weaponry and science could survive. The US KNOWS it would be STUPID to ever engage in such a thing, and Russia knows it would be stupid to engage in war with the US. We can dismiss that notion now, unless the US has NOT learned from their past. Why do you think the Cold War never involved actual battle? That woulda been one helluva war.

    I’d like to see the US take all the money it invested into putting African-Americans into the same communities (i.e projects) and actually break that up and give them a decent place to live.

  • Ms. Independent

    @Nann

    your so right sweety, this world is coming to an end and the US which is suppose to be the strongest nation along with USSR is coming to an end and then USSR and that’s it.

  • Nard

    ….ever heard of the Great Depression…trust me we don’t want the market to fail.

  • TainaSista

    The United States of America will always be damned for SLAVERY! they are all getting what they deserve. hold on tight to your money and stop trying to keep up with the jones’ and you will be alright.

    it all has very deep roots….a lot of those companies became fortune 500 companies from FREE LABOR! imagine not having to pay employees and keeping all the profits. it did not allow the black population to create inheritances (anything for that matter, wtf happen to the 40 acres and a mule) to pass on from generation to generation. reparations is due to an entire race. i’m not saying stand on the corner and give out free money but i think acknowledging the atrocities would be a GREAT start.

  • chloe

    if the government gave the hood all the money it had, the hood would still be a hot mess. People need to be reconditioned and a new state of mind. Giving crack heads and welfare recipents money is not the solution. look at all of the work, time and money obama put in the south side of chicago, and that part of town s stil a mess, because instead of educating and teaching people how to be prosperous, the government just gave and gave and the people took and took.

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    i’m about high ready to pack my sh*t and get the hell out of this country..clearly no one knows what they are doing everyone is confused and the money they print might as well be monopoly money because it holds no value..

    the environment is all f*cked up, everyone is losing their jobs and dying of illnesses at early ages…I think I will go back to Africa

  • LYK_CAN_D

    speaking of food stamps, the gov’t sent me a letter yesterday talking about I owe them $485 for Food stamps, WTF??? Won’t nobody bail my broke a$$ out, lol.

  • D

    I disagree with everyone who states “a close mouth does not get fed”. How long have minorities been pleading for equality? How long have the old, poor, sick, and down trodden pleaded for more attention to thier causes. It has nothing to do with what we say or how we say it. The problem is we are placing our faith in man and man does not have the ability to fix problems, man just causes problems. Now I know I am goijng spiritual and many people are not in tune to thier spirituality so I welcome the nah sayers. But please if you own a Bible, pick it up, read it, and take heed to the advice given. It states that “man dominates man to his own injury” this means that we as humans lack the ability to dominate each other, history has shown the outcome for centuries. We ll have to live in this imperfect and ridiculous world but voting and rebelling and revolutions are not the answers. Instead, make your wants a matter of prayer, beleive that Jesus reign will soon come to earth, and know that this too shall pass, it’s a sign of the times. Don’t be afraid because God is with the righteous. If this nonsense has taught me anything, it is NEVER to put my faith in an imperfect being, no matter who he is or how good his intentions may be. It has also taught me that my time has come to nuture my spirituality because if worse comes to worse, God is the only being powerful enough to overcome the “weapons” (I use this figuratively) of man.

    Yeah this is deep but I know some will understand :)

  • Aunt Viv

    Financial knowledge is so important. I know so many of us are suffering because of the whole subprime nonsense. Those CEOs are criminal, but with financial knowledge and power, they couldn’t get over as easily, ‘cuz one would know that taking out an adjustable rate mortgage on a $500,000 house on a $30,000 salary just doesn’t add up no matter how great the housing market is! Something in that milk don’t taste right! And now so many American’s, many of us included, are foreclosing.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money.

    The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50′s, 60′s and 70′s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

  • LYK_CAN_D

    Milk…2-4-1′s…milk…2-4-1′s *looking side to side

  • Sawyer

    I’m surprised people didnt see this coming earlier…the moment I got laid off back in Oct 07, I said somethings a foot hear. How the hell this million dollar company fold in a matter of months…well I know have my answer, but ever since then I’ve been diligent in paying off my debts, saving money and have a job that I can actually count on! LOL at me on this site while at this “job I can count on” hahaha!

  • Aunt Viv

    @ cutie pie,

    “i’m about high ready to pack my sh*t and get the hell out of this country..clearly no one knows what they are doing everyone is confused and the money they print might as well be monopoly money because it holds no value..

    the environment is all f*cked up, everyone is losing their jobs and dying of illnesses at early ages…I think I will go back to Africa”

    __________________________________

    Sheeeiiiittt, I hear you on that! Ghana here I come!

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money.

    The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

  • nann

    for those who dont think a war vs russia is possible, start lookin up info on how russia is gettin ready to put their foot up a lotta asses (shyt, they already started!). did u kno poutine is the one who’s really runnin shyt back there?? and do u kno poutine’s background? did u check his record? he’s a crazy ass blood thirsty mawfakka and he aint scared for shyt of the americans. and if russia goes accordin to their masterplan, best believe america will get involved. its not even about oil, get ur facts str8. yall wait n c. my prayers go out to ur country. i aint lyin. cuz i often go to the usa n i love ur country, u r proud citizens n i respect dat. even when ur government is screwin u way up ur ass, yall r still mad proud to b americans and part of its heritage. but ur country has serious issues goin on. i say b scared if a few politicians/superstars/elite/high class etc. ppl take their loot n flee the country lollll. b veeeeeery scared! that means some shyt bout to go DOWN!

  • Kerry

    very simple answer; people in the hood can’t afford a lobbyist to lobby their issues to Congress but big Corporations can…

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    @ redd

    and I hate to say it but dammit it must be repeated..most black people don’t read..and a lot of information is in none other than books

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :) (Check me out!)

    @ redd

    and I hate to say it but dammit it must be repeated..most black people don’t read..and a lot of information is in none other than books

    __________________-

    I hear ya baby girl

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money. The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money.

    The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

  • nann

    also, i donno who said it a few posts above mine but on the forreal forreal tip: SAVE UR MONEY N NOT AT THE BANK!!! lol the bank will take ur cash n run! save mula, stash n stop tryna cop the latest gucci bag or prada shoes etc. minds need to b re-conditionned as another post mentions. if u give lots of cash to a broke person, that person wont think ‘lemme put 40% of this money in a trust fund and use 25% to pay a few bills, put this amnt to the side for food, etc etc’, nah! most likely, that same person will take the cash n buy some dumb ass shyt! save money ppl. and beware of banks. if u remember back in 1929, when ppl went to the bank to claim their money, the bank was like ‘eummmmm… about ur money…. euh….. *teller closes shop*’

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    and we are a lot more powerful than we think..they put up these so called barriers to keep us quiet and silent but if u learn the game they can’t tell u nothing..i started reviewing my rights starting with my human rights ending with my consumer banking rights as soon as I turned 18 I wasn’t taking any chances..everyone does not know their rights and thats how they play us

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    also, i donno who said it a few posts above mine but on the forreal forreal tip: SAVE UR MONEY N NOT AT THE BANK!!! lol the bank will take ur cash n run! save mula, stash n stop tryna cop the latest gucci bag or prada shoes etc. minds need to b re-conditionned as another post mentions. if u give lots of cash to a broke person, that person wont think ‘lemme put 40% of this money in a trust fund and use 25% to pay a few bills, put this amnt to the side for food, etc etc’, nah! most likely, that same person will take the cash n buy some dumb ass shyt! save money ppl. and beware of banks. if u remember back in 1929, when ppl went to the bank to claim their money, the bank was like ‘eummmmm… about ur money…. euh….. *teller closes shop*’

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    co-sign 100% my new bank is nike shoe box 1 as checkings and shoe box 2 as savings

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    nann(Check me out!)

    for those who dont think a war vs russia is possible, start lookin up info on how russia is gettin ready to put their foot up a lotta asses (shyt, they already started!). did u kno poutine is the one who’s really runnin shyt back there?? and do u kno poutine’s background? did u check his record? he’s a crazy ass blood thirsty mawfakka and he aint scared for shyt of the americans. and if russia goes accordin to their masterplan, best believe america will get involved. its not even about oil, get ur facts str8. yall wait n c. my prayers go out to ur country. i aint lyin. cuz i often go to the usa n i love ur country, u r proud citizens n i respect dat. even when ur government is screwin u way up ur ass, yall r still mad proud to b americans and part of its heritage. but ur country has serious issues goin on. i say b scared if a few politicians/superstars/elite/high class etc. ppl take their loot n flee the country lollll. b veeeeeery scared! that means some shyt bout to go DOWN!

    ______________________________

    I doubt it the US will go after Russia..Iran has more oil..that why Barack will win the Presidency to lock up that oil with Iran…Barack Hussein Obama is on the way..Now if Russia gets its the way of this then it could mean war amongst the two

    Has anyone on here read “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars” yet…If not I highly recommend you read that and you will understand what goes on today

  • chaka1

    I cosign with Chole!

    In many ways, poverty is a state of mind. Yes, there are poor people who lost their jobs, incomes, farms, etc. However, the vast majority of them are law abiding, God fearing people who will pick themselves up and move on.

    I recently did some volunteer work in the one of the poorest areas in Miami. Some residents were living in deplorable conditions. NOT that the buildings were unsafe, it was because they didn’t clean after themselves. One woman had five kids and roaches were crawling on them! There were old dishes, clothes, food laying everywhere. And the smell! She had a drug dealing boyfriend who used her section 8 apartment as her headquarters. The witch had the nerve to have a working satellite dish! I wanted to slap her, snatch up those kids and get the hell out of there. There’s got to be a way to uplift families like this, but I don’t have a clue as to where to begin.

  • eddiedollars215

    THIS IS BY DESIGN… READ SOME OF THE ARTICLES I POSTED IN THE McSAME THREAD…

  • chaka1

    I cosign with Chole!

    In many ways, poverty is a state of mind. Yes, there are poor people who lost their jobs, incomes, farms, etc. However, the vast majority of them are law abiding, God fearing people who will pick themselves up and move on.

    I recently did some volunteer work in the one of the poorest areas in Miami. Some residents were living in deplorable conditions. NOT that the buildings were unsafe, it was because they didn’t clean after themselves. One woman had five kids and roaches were crawling on them! There were old dishes, clothes, food laying everywhere. And the smell! She had a drug dealing boyfriend who used her section 8 apartment as his headquarters. The witch had the nerve to have a working satellite dish! I wanted to slap her, snatch up those kids and get the hell out of there. There’s got to be a way to uplift families like this, but I don’t have a clue as to where to begin.

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    the only money I leave in the bank is money for scheduled payments

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Aunt Viv(Check me out!)

    @ cutie pie,

    “i’m about high ready to pack my sh*t and get the hell out of this country..clearly no one knows what they are doing everyone is confused and the money they print might as well be monopoly money because it holds no value..

    the environment is all f*cked up, everyone is losing their jobs and dying of illnesses at early ages…I think I will go back to Africa”

    __________________________________

    Sheeeiiiittt, I hear you on that! Ghana here I come!

    _____________________

    I heard that Aunt Viv, but the CFR’s mission is for a borderless world..We aint gone be able to go no where…and Obama is on tha committee with the CFR

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    chaka1(Check me out!)

    I cosign with Chole!

    In many ways, poverty is a state of mind. Yes, there are poor people who lost their jobs, incomes, farms, etc. However, the vast majority of them are law abiding, God fearing people who will pick themselves up and move on.

    I recently did some volunteer work in the one of the poorest areas in Miami. Some residents were living in deplorable conditions. NOT that the buildings were unsafe, it was because they didn’t clean after themselves. One woman had five kids and roaches were crawling on them! There were old dishes, clothes, food laying everywhere. And the smell! She had a drug dealing boyfriend who used her section 8 apartment as his headquarters. The witch had the nerve to have a working satellite dish! I wanted to slap her, snatch up those kids and get the hell out of there. There’s got to be a way to uplift families like this, but I don’t have a clue as to where to begin.

    ___________________

    You are right..again it boils down to family

  • CGJ

    Because looking out for business and special interests has ALWAYS been the Bush administration’s agenda. My question is, WHY ARE PEOPLE ACTING BRAND NEW, like they are surprised that the government would make this move? BUSH DOESN’T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY BLACK PEOPLE!

    What surprises me more is Obama throwing his support and endorsement behind this mess. I hope upon hope that this new plan does include some relief for the “Main Street” (i.e. the actual people that SPEND the money – you and me) interest as ya boy has been screaming for 3 days now.

    The money does not need to be injected into the economy at the corporate level – it needs to be injected into the economy at the level where people actually consume products – again, YOU and ME. I’m not as worried about how well (or horrible) my 401K investments are doing right now – I have another 30 years to work, and by then retirement might not even be an option.

    I’m more concerned about paying my bills…and that new purse I want.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    Has anyone on here read “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars” yet…If not I highly recommend you read that and you will understand what goes on today

    @Redd Tony

    EXACTLY!

    Remember the Cold War? Neither side would engage in ACTUAL battle. There’s too much at stake, when both countries have advanced military weaponry and science.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    I recently did some volunteer work in the one of the poorest areas in Miami. Some residents were living in deplorable conditions. NOT that the buildings were unsafe, it was because they didn’t clean after themselves. One woman had five kids and roaches were crawling on them! There were old dishes, clothes, food laying everywhere. And the smell! She had a drug dealing boyfriend who used her section 8 apartment as his headquarters. The witch had the nerve to have a working satellite dish! I wanted to slap her, snatch up those kids and get the hell out of there. There’s got to be a way to uplift families like this, but I don’t have a clue as to where to begin.

    _______________________________________________-

    I posted this earlier, but I’ll post it again:

    The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money.

    The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

    Of course this is NOT an overnight process….

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Sup Eddie!

    Did you read “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars” yet?

  • 2 Tell Da Truth & Shame All U Devils

    @ Ron G

    Speaking of welfare checks, well I see wallstreet didn’t have any problem taking welfare. That’s what it is a big fat 700 billion dollar welfare check.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    Re(Check me out!)

    I recently did some volunteer work in the one of the poorest areas in Miami. Some residents were living in deplorable conditions. NOT that the buildings were unsafe, it was because they didn’t clean after themselves. One woman had five kids and roaches were crawling on them! There were old dishes, clothes, food laying everywhere. And the smell! She had a drug dealing boyfriend who used her section 8 apartment as his headquarters. The witch had the nerve to have a working satellite dish! I wanted to slap her, snatch up those kids and get the hell out of there. There’s got to be a way to uplift families like this, but I don’t have a clue as to where to begin.

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    I posted this earlier, but I’ll post it again:

    The government SHOULD NOT give the hood money.

    The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

    Of course this is NOT an overnight process….

    ______________________

    I feel you, but your idea is easier said than done, how could we help condition families like this to preserve the wealth and keep it in the family. Thats the key, education on how to maintain the wealth

  • http://nohighfructosecornsyrup.blogspot.com WhatIsInTheFood

    The Government bailout is us paying money? We can bailout people who are already rich yet not provide healthcare. ridiculous.

  • http://nohighfructosecornsyrup.blogspot.com WhatIsInTheFood

    The Government bailout is us paying money? We can bailout people who are already rich yet not provide healthcare. ridiculous.

  • eddiedollars215

    In 1952 the original grant period terminated, and a high-level meeting of the elite was held to determine the next phase of social operations research. The Harvard project had been very fruitful, as is borne out by the publication of some of its results in 1953 suggesting the feasibility of economic (social) engineering. (Studies in the Structure of the American Economy — copyright 1953 by Wasily Leontief, International Sciences Press Inc., White Plains, New York.)

    Engineered in the last half of the decade of the 1940s, the new Quiet War machine stood, so to speak, in sparkling gold-plated hardware on the showroom floor by 1954.

    With the creation of the maser in 1954, the promise of unlocking unlimited sources of fusion atomic energy from the heavy hydrogen in sea water and the consequent availability of unlimited social power was a possibility only decades away.

    The combination was irresistible.

    The Quiet War was quietly declared by the International Elite at a meeting held in 1954.

    Although the silent weapons system was nearly exposed 13 years later, the evolution of the new weapon-system has never suffered any major setbacks.

    This volume marks the 25th anniversary of the beginning of the Quiet War. Already this domestic war has had many victories on many fronts throughout the world.

    POLITICAL INTRODUCTION

    In 1954 it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it was only a matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public would be able to grasp and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements of the new silent-weapon technology were as accessible for a public utopia as they were for providing a private utopia.

    The issue of primary concern, that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the energy sciences.

    ENERGY

    Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social science, theoretically expressed as economics, is the study of the sources and control of social energy. Both are bookkeeping systems: mathematics. Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of the bookkeeping.

    All science is merely a means to an end. The means is knowledge. The end is control. Beyond this remains only one issue: Who will be the beneficiary?

    In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called “moral issues” were raised, in view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

    Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and tranquility, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the natural and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.

    In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure, and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public appearance as to earn for themselves the name “silent weapons.”

    In conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable and manipulatable.

    In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements of the society must be brought under total control, i.e., must be housebroken, trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early age, before they have an opportunity to question the propriety of the matter. In order to achieve such conformity, the lower-class family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government-operated day-care centers for the occupationally orphaned children.

    The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from the superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With such an initial handicap, even bright lower class individuals have little if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of social order, peace, and tranquility for the ruling upper class.

    DESCRIPTIVE INTRODUCTION OF THE SILENT WEAPON

    Everything that is expected from an ordinary weapon is expected from a silent weapon by its creators, but only in its own manner of functioning.

    It shoots situations, instead of bullets; propelled by data processing, instead of a chemical reaction (explosion); originating from bits of data, instead of grains of gunpowder; from a computer, instead of a gun; operated by a computer programmer, instead of a marksman; under the orders of a banking magnate, instead of a military general.

  • eddiedollars215

    It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone’s daily social life.

    Yet it makes an unmistakable “noise,” causes unmistakable physical and mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with daily social life, i.e., unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for.

    The public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon.

    The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong, but because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it.

    When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts / adapts to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up.

    Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of a society by knowing, understanding, manipulating, and attacking their sources of natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional strengths and weaknesses.

    THEORETICAL INTRODUCTION

    “Give me control over a nation’s currency,

    and I care not who makes its laws.”

    Mayer Amschel Rothschild

    (1743 – 1812)

    Today’s silent weapons technology is an outgrowth of a simple idea discovered, succinctly expressed, and effectively applied by the quoted Mr. Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Mr. Rothschild discovered the missing passive component of economic theory known as economic inductance. He, of course, did not think of his discovery in these 20th-century terms, and, to be sure, mathematical analysis had to wait for the Second Industrial Revolution, the rise of the theory of mechanics and electronics, and finally, the invention of the electronic computer before it could be effectively applied in the control of the world economy.

    GENERAL ENERGY CONCEPTS

    In the study of energy systems, there always appear three elementary concepts. These are potential energy, kinetic energy, and energy dissipation. And corresponding to these concepts, there are three idealized, essentially pure physical counterparts called passive components.

    (1) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of potential energy is associated with a physical property called elasticity or stiffness, and can be represented by a stretched spring.

    In electronic science, potential energy is stored in a capacitor instead of a spring. This property is called capacitance instead of elasticity or stiffness.

    (2) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of kinetic energy is associated with a physical property called inertia or mass, and can be represented by a mass or a flywheel in motion.

    In electronic science, kinetic energy is stored in an inductor (in a magnetic field) instead of a mass. This property is called inductance instead of inertia.

    (3) In the science of physical mechanics, the phenomenon of energy dissipation is associated with a physical property called friction or resistance, and can be represented by a dashpot or other device which converts system energy into heat.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @RE

    But the worse thing is you take a family outta of the hood, put em in a nice clean place, and their new home ends up like where they left…

  • eddiedollars215

    In electronic science, dissipation of energy is performed by an element called either a resistor or a conductor, the term “resistor” being the one generally used to express the concept of friction, and the term “conductor” being generally used to describe a more ideal device (e.g., wire) employed to convey electronic energy efficiently from one location to another. The property of a resistance or conductor is measured as either resistance or conductance reciprocals.

    In economics these three energy concepts are associated with:

    Economic Capacitance — Capital (money, stock/inventory, investments in buildings and durables, etc.)

    Economic Conductance — Goods (production flow coefficients)

    Economic Inductance — Services (the influence of the population of industry on output)

    All of the mathematical theory developed in the study of one energy system (e.g., mechanics, electronics, etc.) can be immediately applied in the study of any other energy system (e.g., economics).

    MR. ROTHSCHILD’S ENERGY DISCOVERY

    What Mr. Rothschild had discovered was the basic principle of power, influence, and control over people as applied to economics. That principle is “when you assume the appearance of power, people soon give it to you.”

    Mr. Rothschild had discovered that currency or deposit loan accounts had the required appearance of power that could be used to induce people (inductance, with people corresponding to a magnetic field) into surrendering their real wealth in exchange for a promise of greater wealth (instead of real compensation). They would put up real collateral in exchange for a loan of promissory notes. Mr. Rothschild found that he could issue more notes than he had backing for, so long as he had someone’s stock of gold as a persuader to show to his customers.

    Mr. Rothschild loaned his promissory notes to individuals and to governments. These would create overconfidence. Then he would make money scarce, tighten control of the system, and collect the collateral through the obligation of contracts. The cycle was then repeated. These pressures could be used to ignite a war. Then he would control the availability of currency to determine who would win the war. That government which agreed to give him control of its economic system got his support.

    Collection of debts was guaranteed by economic aid to the enemy of the debtor. The profit derived from this economic methodology made Mr. Rothschild all the more able to extend his wealth. He found that the public greed would allow currency to be printed by government order beyond the limits (inflation) of backing in precious metal or the production of goods and services (gross national product, GNP).

    APPARENT CAPITAL AS “PAPER” INDUCTOR

    In this structure, credit, presented as a pure element called “currency,” has the appearance of capital, but is, in fact, negative capital. Hence, it has the appearance of service, but is, in fact, indebtedness or debt. It is therefore an economic inductance instead of an economic capacitance, and if balanced in no other way, will be balanced in no other way, will be balanced by the negation of population (war, genocide). The total goods and services represent real capital called the gross national product, and currency may be printed up to this level and still represent economic capacitance; but currency printed beyond this level is subtractive, represents the introduction of economic inductance, and constitutes notes of indebtedness.

    War is therefore the balancing of the system by killing the true creditors (the public which we have taught to exchange true value for inflated currency) and falling back on whatever is left of the resources of nature and regeneration of those resources.

    Mr. Rothschild had discovered that currency gave him the power to rearrange the economic structure to his own advantage, to shift economic inductance to those economic positions which would encourage the greatest economic instability and oscillation.

    The final key to economic control had to wait until there was sufficient data and high-speed computing equipment to keep close watch on the economic oscillations created by price shocking and excess paper energy credits — paper inductance/inflation.

    BREAKTHROUGH

    Thea aviation field provided the greatest evolution in economic engineering by way of the mathematical theory of shock testing. In this process, a projectile is fired from an airframe on the ground and the impulse of the recoil is monitored by vibration transducers connected to the airframe and wired to chart recorders.

    By studying the echoes or reflections of the recoil impulse in the airframe, it is possible to discover critical vibrations in the structure of the airframe which either vibrations of the engine or aeolian vibrations of the wings, or a combination of the two, might reinforce resulting in a resonant self-destruction of the airframe in flight as an aircraft. From the standpoint of engineering, this means that the strengths and weaknesses of the structure of the airframe in terms of vibrational energy can be discovered and manipulated.

    APPLICATION IN ECONOMICS

    To use this method of airframe shock testing in economic engineering, the prices of commodities are shocked, and the public consumer reaction is monitored. The resulting echoes of the economic shock are interpreted theoretically by computers and the psycho-economic structure of the economy is discovered. It is by this process that partial differential and difference matrices are discovered that define the family household and make possible its evaluation as an economic industry (dissipative consumer structure).

    Then the response of the household to future shocks can be predicted and manipulated, and society becomes a well-regulated animal with its reins under the control of a sophisticated computer-regulated social energy bookkeeping system.

    Eventually every individual element of the structure comes under computer control through a knowledge of personal preferences, such knowledge guaranteed by computer association of consumer preferences (universal product code — UPC — zebra-stripe pricing codes on packages) with identified consumers (identification via association with the use of a credit card and later a permanent “tattooed” body number invisible under normal ambient illumination…

    THE ECONOMIC MODEL

    …The Harvard Economic Research Project (1948-) was an extension of World War II Operations Research. Its purpose was to discover the science of controlling an economy: at first the American economy, and then the world economy. It was felt that with sufficient mathematical foundation and data, it would be nearly as easy to predict and control the trend of an economy as to predict and control the trajectory of a projectile. Such has proven to be the case. Moreover, the economy has been transformed into a guided missle on target.

    The immediate aim of the Harvard project was to discover the economic structure, what forces change that structure, how the behavior of the structure can be predicted, and how it can be manipulated. What was needed was a well-organized knowledge of the mathematical structures and interrelationships of investment, production, distribution, and consumption.

    To make a short story of it all, it was discovered that an economy obeyed the same laws as electricity and that all of the mathematical theory and practical and computer know-how developed for the electronic field could be directly applied in the study of economics. This discovery was not openly declared, and its more subtle implications were and are kept a closely guarded secret, for example that in an economic model, human life is measured in dollars, and that the electric spark generated when opening a switch connected to an active inductor is mathematically analogous to the initiation of a war.

    The greatest hurdle which theoretical economists faced was the accurate description of the household as an industry. This is a challenge because consumer purchases are a matter of choice which in turn is influenced by income, price, and other economic factors.

    This hurdle was cleared in an indirect and statistically approximate way by an application of shock testing to determine the current characteristics, called current technical coefficients, of a household industry.

  • CGJ

    @ Redd Tony

    With regard to stimulus checks, I bet most people used it to catch up on bills – I know I did. And the little I was able to save has slowly dissipated…that’s right, to pay bills!

    That’s why the stimulus package failed – people didn’t go out and “shop” as they were expected to – too many of us had past due bills that needed to be caught up. And for most, I’ll be that check didn’t even make a dent.

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    I unfortunately believe that our government does not believe education below the college level is profitable. I believe universities often get a better shot at receiving funding than our elementary-high schools. I believe the way our current system is setup that we rely to much on post secondary education and don’t give our children enough of a foundation to pursue careers.

  • eddiedollars215

    Finally, because problems in theoretical economics can be translated very easily into problems in theoretical electronics, and the solution translated back again, it follows that only a book of language translation and concept definition needed to be written for economics. The remainder could be gotten from standard works on mathematics and electronics. this makes the publication of books on advanced economics unnecessary, and greatly simplifies project security.

    INDUSTRIAL DIAGRAMS

    An ideal industry is defined as a device which receives value from other industries in several forms and converts into one specific product for sales and distribution to other industries. It has several inputs and one output. What the public normally thinks of as one industry is really an industrial complex where several industries under one roof produce one or more products…

    THREE INDUSTRIAL CLASSES

    Industries fall into three categories or classes by type of output:

    Class #1 – Capital (resources)

    Class #2 – Goods (commodities or use — dissipative)

    Class #3 – Services (action of population)

    Class #1 has three sub-classes:

    Nature – sources of energy and raw materials.

    Government – printing of currency equal to gross national product (GNP), and extension (inflation) of currency in excess of GNP.

    Banking – loaning of money for interest, and extension (inflation / counterfeiting) of economic value through deposit loan accounts.

    Class #2 industries exist as producers of tangible or consumer (dissipated) products. This sort of activity is usually recognized and labeled by the public as an “industry.”

    Class #3 industries are those which have service rather than a tangible product as their output. These industries are called (1) households, and (2) governments. Their output is human activity of a mechanical sort, and their basis is population.

    AGGREGATION

    The whole economic system can be represented by a three-industry model if one allows the names of the outputs to be (1) capital, (2) goods, and (3) services. The problem with this representation is that it would not show the influence of , say, the textile industry on the ferrous metal industry. This is because both the textile industry and the ferrous metal industry would be contained within a single classification called the “goods industry” and by this process of combining or aggregating these two industries under one system block they would lose their economic individuality.

    THE E-MODEL

    A national economy consists of simultaneous flows of production, distribution, consumption, and investment. If all of these elements including labor and human functions are assigned a numerical value in like units of measure, say, 1939 dollars, then this flow can be further represented by a current flow in an electronic circuit, and its behavior can be predicted and manipulated with useful precision.

    The three ideal passive energy components of electronics, the capacitor, the resistor, and the inductor correspond to the three ideal passive energy components of economics called the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, respectively.

    Economic capacitance represents the storage of capital in one form or another.

    Economic conductance represents the level of conductance of materials for the production of goods.

    Economic inductance represents the inertia of economic value in motion. This is a population phenomenon known as services.

    ECONOMIC INDUCTANCE

    An electrical inductor (e.g., a coil of wire) has an electric current as its primary phenomenon and a magnetic field as its secondary phenomenon (inertia). Corresponding to this, and economic inductor has a flow of economic value as its primary phenomenon and a population field as its secondary phenomenon of inertia. When the flow of economic value (e.g., money) diminishes, the human population field collapses in order to keep the economic value (money) flowing (extreme case — war).

    This public inertia is a result of consumer buying habits, expected standard of living, etc., and is generally a phenomenon of self- preservation.

    INDUCTIVE FACTORS TO CONSIDER

    Population

    Magnitude of the economic activities of the government.

    The method of financing these government activities (See Peter-Paul Principle — inflation of currency.)

    TRANSLATION

    (A few examples will be given.)

    Charge — coulombs — dollars (1939).

    Flow / Current — ampheres (coulombs per second) — dollars of flow per year.

    Motivating Force — volts — dollars (output) demand.

    Conductance — amperes per volt — dollars of flow per year per dollar demand.

    Capacitance — coulombs per volt — dollars of production inventory / stock per dollar demand.

    TIME FLOW RELATIONSHIPS AND SELF-DESTRUCTIVE OSCILLATIONS

    An ideal industry may be symbolized electronically in various ways. The simplest way is to represent a demand by a voltage and a supply by a current. When this is done, the relationship between the two becomes what is called an admittance, which can result from three economic factors: (1) hindsight flow, (2) present flow, and (3) foresight flow.

    Foresight flow is the result of that property of living entities to cause energy (food) to be stored for a period of low energy (e.g., a winter season). It consists of demands made upon an economic system for that period of low energy (winter season).

  • eddiedollars215

    In a production industry it takes several forms, one of which is known as a production stock or inventory. In electronic symbology this specific industry demand (a pure capital industry) is represented by capacitance and the stock or resource is represented by a stored charge. Satisfaction of an industry demand suffers a lag because of the loading effect of inventory priorities.

    Present flow ideally involves no delays. It is, so to speak, input today for output today, a “hand to mouth” flow. In electronic symbology, this specific industry demand (a pure use industry) is represented by a conductance which is then a simple economic valve (a dissipative element).

    Hindsight flow is known as habit or inertia. In electronics this phenomenon is the characteristic of an inductor (economic analog = a pure service industry) in which a current flow (economic analog = flow of money) creates a magnetic field (economic analog = active human population) which, if the current (money flow) begins to diminish, collapse (war) to maintain the current (flow of money — energy).

    Other large alternatives to war as economic inductors or economic flywheels are an open-ended social welfare program, or an enormous (but fruitful) open-ended space program.

    The problem of stabilizing the economic system is that there is too much demand on account of (1) too much greed and (2) too much population.

    This creates excessive economic inductance which can only be balanced with economic capacitance (true resources or value — e.g., in goods or services).

    The social welfare program is nothing more than an open-ended credit balance system which creates a false capital industry to give nonproductive people a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. This can be useful, however, because the recipients become state property in return for the “gift,” a standing army for the elite. for he who pays the piper picks the tune.

    Those who get hooked on the economic drug, must go to the elite for a fix. In this, the method of introducing large amounts of stabilizing capacitance is by borrowing on the future “credit” of the world. This is a fourth law of motion — onset, and consists of performing an action and leaving the system before the reflected reaction returns to the point of action — a delayed reaction.

    The means of surviving the reaction is by changing the system before the reaction can return. By this means, politicians become popular in their own time and the public pays for it later. In fact, the measure of such a politician is the delay time.

    The same thing is achieved by a government by printing money beyond the limit of the gross national product, an economic process called inflation. This puts a large quantity of money into the hands of the public and maintains a balance against their greed, creates a false self-confidence in them and, for awhile, stays the wolf from the door.

    They must eventually resort to war to balance the account, because war ultimately is merely the act of destroying the creditor, and the politicians are the publicly hired hit men that justify the act to keep the responsibility and blood off the public conscience. (See section on consent factors and social-economic structuring.)

    If the people really cared about their fellow man, they would control their appetites (greed, procreation, etc.) so that they would not have to operate on a credit or welfare social system which steals from the worker to satisfy the bum.

    Since most of the general public will not exercise restraint, there are only two alternatives to reduce the economic inductance of the system.

    (1) Let the populace bludgeon each other to death in a war, which will only result in a total destruction of the living earth.

    (2) Take control of the world by the use of economic “silent weapons” in a form of “quiet warfare” and reduce the economic inductance of the world to a safe level by a process of benevolent slavery and genocide.

    The latter option has been taken as the obviously better option. At this point it should be crystal clear to the reader why absolute secrecy about the silent weapons is necessary. The general public refuses to improve its own mentality and its faith in its fellow man. It has become a heard of proliferating barbarians, and, so to speak, a blight upon the face of the earth.

    They do not care enough about economic science to learn why they have not been able to avoid war despite religious morality, and their religious or self-gratifying refusal to deal with earthly problems renders the solution of the earthly problem unreachable by them.

    It is left to those few who are truly willing to think and survive as the fittest to survive, to solve the problem for themselves as the few who really care. Otherwise, exposure of the silent weapon would destroy our only hope of preserving the seed of future true humanity…

    THE HOUSEHOLD INDUSTRY

    The industries of finance (banking), manufacturing, and government, real counterparts of the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, are easily defined because they are generally logically structured. Because of this their processes can be described mathematically and their technical coefficients can be easily deduced. This, however, is not the case with the service industry known as the household industry.

    HOUSEHOLD MODELS

    …The problem which a theoretical economist faces is that the consumer preferences of any household is not easily predictable and the technical coefficients of any one household tend to be a nonlinear, very complex, and variable function of income, prices, etc.

    Computer information derived from the use of the universal product code in conjunction with credit-card purchase as an individual household identifier could change this state of affairs, but the U.P.C. method is not yet available on a national or even a significant regional scale. To compensate for this data deficiency, an alternate indirect approach of analysis has been adopted known as economic shock testing. This method, widely used in the aircraft manufacturing industry, develops an aggregate statistical sort of data.

    Applied to economics, this means that all of the households in one region or in the whole nation are studied as a group or class rather than individually, and the mass behavior rather than individual behavior is used to discover useful estimates of the technical coefficients governing the economic structure of the hypothetical single-household industry…

    One method of evaluating the technical coefficients of the household industry depends upon shocking the prices of a commodity and noting the changes in the sales of all the commodities.

    ECONOMIC SHOCK TESTING

    In recent times, the application of Operations Research to the study of the public economy has been obvious for anyone who understands the principles of shock testing.

    In the shock testing of an aircraft airframe, the recoil impulse of firing a gun mounted on that airframe causes shock waves in that structure which tell aviation engineers the conditions under which parts of the airplane or the whole airplane or its wings will start to vibrate or flutter like a guitar string, a flute reed, or a tuning fork, and disintegrate or fall apart in flight.

    Economic engineers achieve the same result in studying the behavior of the economy and the consumer public by carefully selecting a staple commodity such as beef, coffee, gasoline, or sugar, and then causing a sudden change or shock in its price or availability, thus kicking everybody’s budget and buying habits out of shape.

    They then observe the shock waves which result by monitoring the changes in advertising, prices, and sales of that and other commodities.

    The objective of such studies is to acquire the know-how to set the public economy into a predictable state of motion or change, even a controlled self-destructive state of motion which will convince the public that certain “expert” people should take control of the money system and reestablish security (rather than liberty and justice) for all. When they subject citizens are rendered unable to control their financial affairs, they, of course, become totally enslaved, a source of cheap labor.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    I feel you, but your idea is easier said than done, how could we help condition families like this to preserve the wealth and keep it in the family. Thats the key, education on how to maintain the wealth

    ___________________________________________________

    @Redd Tony

    I hear ya. Like I said earlier, this is not an overnight process. BUT!

    Let’s start from scratch. Many black folks don’t have, or have never had wealth. How can we teach them to preserve it when they’re barely learning to save the little bit of money they’re making? They stay in the hood, around the same people who spend all their money, and their kids will do the same, never learning what means to save. Cause they’re stuck in the same cycle. And they go to the local neighborhood school, which is filled with kids with the same issues.

    Put them in a REAL school, with diversity not only just as far as skin tone, but middle class, lower class, and upper class students, and there is inspiration. There is a way OUT.

  • eddiedollars215

    Not only the prices of commodities, but also the availability of labor can be used as the means of shock testing. Labor strikes deliver excellent test shocks to an economy, especially in the critical service areas of trucking (transportation), communication, public utilities (energy, water, garbage collection), etc.

    By shock testing, it is found that there is a direct relationship between the availability of money flowing in an economy and the psychological outlook and response of masses of people dependent upon that availability.

    For example, there is a measurable quantitative relationship between the price of gasoline and the probability that a person would experience a headache, feel a need to watch a violent movie, smoke a cigarette, or go to the tavern for a mug of beer.

    It is most interesting that, by observing and measuring the economic modes by which the public tries to run from their problems and escape from reality, and by applying the mathematical theory of Operations Research, it is possible to program computers to predict the most probable combination of created events (shocks) which will bring about a complete control and subjugation of the public thru a subversion of the public economy (by shaking the plum tree)…

    INTRODUCTION TO ECONOMIC AMPLIFIERS

    Economic amplifiers are the active components of economic engineering. The basic characteristic of any amplifier (mechanical, electrical, or economic) is that it receives an input control signal and delivers energy from an independent energy source to a specified output terminal in a predictable relationship to that input control signal.

    The simplest form of economic amplifier is a device called advertising.

    If a person is spoken to by a T.V. advertiser as if he were a twelve- year-old, then, due to suggestibility, he will, with a certain probability, respond or react to that suggestion with the uncritical response of a twelve-year-old and will reach into his economic reservoir and deliver its energy to buy that product on impulse when he passes it in the store.

    An economic amplifier may have several inputs and outputs. Its response might be instantaneous or delayed. Its circuit symbol might e a rotary switch if its options are exclusive, qualitative, or “go” or “no go,” or it might have its parametric input / output relationships specified by a matrix with internal energy sources represented.

    Whatever its form might be, its purpose is to govern the flow of energy from a source to an output sink in direct relationship to an input control signal. For this reason, it is called an active circuit element or component.

    Economic Amplifiers fall into classes called strategies, and, in comparison with electronic amplifiers, the specific internal functions of an economic amplifier are called logistical instead of electrical.

    In the design of an economic amplifier we must have some idea of at least five functions, which are

    the available input signals,

    the desired output-control objectives,

    the strategic objective,

    the available economic power sources,

    the logistical options.

    The process of defining and evaluating these factors and incorporating the economic amplifier into an economic system has been popularly called Game Theory.

    The design of an economic amplifier begins with a specification of the power level of the output, which can range from personal to national. The second condition is accuracy of response, i.e., how accurately the output action is a function of the input commands. High gain combined with strong feedback helps to deliver the required precision.

    Most of the error will be in the input data signal. Personal input data tends to be specific, while national input data tends to be statistical.

    SHORT LIST OF INPUTS

    Questions to be answered:

    (1) what (3) where (5) why

    (2) when (4) how (6) who

    General sources of information:

    (1) telephone taps (3) analysis of garbage

    (2) surveillance (4) behavior of children in school

    Standard of living by:

    (1) food (3) shelter

    (2) clothing (4) transportation

    Social contacts:

    (1) telephone – itemized record of calls

    (2) family – marriage certificates, birth certificates, etc.

    (3) friends, associates, etc.

    (4) memberships in organizations

    (5) political affiliation

    THE PERSONAL PAPER TRAIL

    Personal buying habits, i.e., personal consumer preferences:

    (1) checking accounts

    (2) credit-card purchases

    (3) “tagged” credit-card purchases – the credit-card purchase of products bearing the U.P.C. (Universal Product Code)

    Assets:

    (1) checking accounts (5) automobile, etc.

    (2) savings accounts (6) safety deposit at bank

    (3) real estate (7) stock market

    (4) business

    Liabilities:

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @Eddie

    so what you think about it

  • eddiedollars215

    Liabilities:

    (1) creditors (3) loans

    (2) enemies (see – legal)

    Government sources (ploys)*:

    (1) Welfare (4) doles

    (2) Social Security (5) grants

    (3) U.S.D.A. surplus food (6) subsidies

    *Principle of this ploy — the citizen will almost always make the collection of information easy if he can operate on the “free sandwich principle” of “eat now, and pay later.”

    Government sources (via intimidation):

    (1) Internal Revenue Service

    (2) OSHA

    (3) Census

    (4) etc.

    Other government sources — surveillance of U.S. mail.

    HABIT PATTERNS — PROGRAMMING

    Strengths and weaknesses:

    (1) activities (sports, hobbies, etc.)

    (2) see “legal” (fear, anger, etc. — crime record)

    (3) hospital records (drug sensitivities, reaction to pain, etc.)

    (4) psychiatric records (fears, angers, disgusts, adaptability, reactions to stimuli, violence, suggestibility or hypnosis, pain, pleasure, love, and sex)

    Methods of coping — of adaptability — behavior:

    (1) consumption of alcohol

    (2) consumption of drugs

    (3) entertainment

    (4) religious factors influencing behavior

    (5) other methods of escaping from reality

    Payment modus operandi (MO) — pay on time, etc.:

    (1) payment of telephone bills

    (2) energy purchases

    (3) water purchases

    (4) repayment of loans

    (5) house payments

    (6) automobile payments

    (7) payments on credit cards

    Political sensitivity:

    (1) beliefs (3) position (5) projects/activities

    (2) contacts (4) strengths/weaknesses

    Legal inputs — behavioral control (Excuses for investigation, search, arrest, or employment of force to modify behavior)

    (1) court records (4) reports made to police

    (2) police records — NCIC (5) insurance information

    (3) driving record (6) anti-establishment acquaintances

    NATIONAL INPUT INFORMATION

    Business sources (via I.R.S., etc):

    (1) prices of commodities

    (2) sales

    (3) investments in

    (a) stocks/inventory

    (b) production tools and machinery

    (c) buildings and improvements

    (d) the stock market

    Banks and credit bureaus:

    (1) credit information

    (2) payment information

    Miscellaneous sources:

    (1) polls and surveys

    (2) publications

    (3) telephone records

    (4) energy and utility purchases

  • eddiedollars215

    SHORT LIST OF OUTPUTS

    Outputs — create controlled situations — manipulation of the economy, hence society — control by control of compensation and income.

    Sequence:

    (1) allocates opportunities.

    (2) destroys opportunities.

    (3) controls the economic environment.

    (4) controls the availability of raw materials.

    (5) controls capital.

    (6) controls bank rates.

    (7) controls the inflation of the currency.

    (8) controls the possession of property.

    (9) controls industrial capacity.

    (10) controls manufacturing.

    (11) controls the availability of goods (commodities).

    (12) controls the prices of commodities.

    (13) controls services, the labor force, etc.

    (14) controls payments to government officials.

    (15) controls the legal functions.

    (16) controls the personal data files — uncorrectable by the party slandered.

    (17) controls advertising.

    (18) controls media contact.

    (19) controls material available for T.V. viewing

    (20) disengages attention from real issues.

    (21) engages emotions.

    (22) creates disorder, chaos, and insanity.

    (23) controls design of more probing tax forms.

    (24) controls surveillance.

    (25) controls the storage of information.

    (26) develops psychological analyses and profiles of individuals.

    (27) controls legal functions [repeat of 15]

    (28) controls sociological factors.

    (29) controls health options.

    (30) preys on weakness.

    (31) cripples strengths.

    (32) leaches wealth and substance.

    TABLE OF STRATEGIES

    Do this: To get this:

    Keep the public ignorant Less public organization

    Maintain access to control points for feedback Required reaction to outputs (prices, sales)

    Create preoccupation Lower defenses

    Attack the family unit Control of the education of the young

    Give less cash and more credit and doles More self-indulgence and more data

    Attack the privacy of the church Destroy faith in this sort of government

    Social conformity Computer programming simplicity

    Minimize the tax protest Maximum economic data, minimum enforcement problems

    Stabilize the consent Simplicity coefficients

    Tighten control of variables Simpler computer input data — greater predictability

    Establish boundary conditions Problem simplicity / solutions of differential and difference equations

    Proper timing Less data shift and blurring

    Maximize control Minimum resistance to control

    Collapse of currency Destroy the faith of the American people in each other.

    DIVERSION, THE PRIMARY STRATEGY

    Experience has proven that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and ignorant of basic systems principles on the one hand, while keeping them confused, disorganized, and distracted with matters of no real importance on the other hand.

    This is achieved by:

    (1) disengaging their minds; sabotaging their mental activities; providing a low-quality program of public education in mathematics, logic, systems design and economics; and discouraging technical creativity.

    (2) engaging their emotions, increasing their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional and physical activities, by:

    (a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental and emotional rape) by way of a constant barrage of sex, violence, and wars in the media — especially the T.V. and the newspapers.

    (b) giving them what they desire — in excess — “junk food for thought” — and depriving them of what they really need.

    (3) rewriting history and law and subjecting the public to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

    These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of social automation technology.

    The general rule is that there is profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best approach is to create problems and then offer the solutions.

    DIVERSION SUMMARY

    Media: Keep the adult public attention diverted away from the real social issues, and captivated by matters of no real importance.

    Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real economics, real law, and real history.

    Entertainment: Keep the public entertainment below a sixth-grade level.

  • 2 Tell Da Truth & Shame All U Devils

    Where does all this black people are on welfare b.s. come from. If Sarah Palin wasn’t governor her daughter would be next on welfare think about it.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign(Check me out!)

    @RE

    But the worse thing is you take a family outta of the hood, put em in a nice clean place, and their new home ends up like where they left…

    ____________________________________________________

    True that….it’s not an easy idea…that’s probably why it hasn’t been resolved. But, lets put them in diverse neighborhoods.

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    i am so getting that book!

  • eddiedollars215

    Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy, with no time to think; back on the farm with the other animals.

    CONSENT, THE PRIMARY VICTORY

    A silent weapon system operates upon data obtained from a docile public by legal (but not always lawful) force. Much information is made available to silent weapon systems programmers through the Internal Revenue Service. (See Studies in the Structure of the American Economy for an I.R.S. source list.)

    This information consists of the enforced delivery of well-organized data contained in federal and state tax forms collected, assembled, and submitted by slave labor provided by taxpayers and employers.

    Furthermore, the number of such forms submitted to the I.R.S. is a useful indicator of public consent, an important factor in strategic decision making. Other data sources are given in the Short List of Inputs.

    Consent Coefficients — numerical feedback indicating victory status. Psychological basis: When the government is able to collect tax and seize private property without just compensation, it is an indication that the public is ripe for surrender and is consenting to enslavement and legal encroachment. A good and easily quantified indicator of harvest time is the number of public citizens who pay income tax despite an obvious lack of reciprocal or honest service from the government.

    AMPLIFICATION ENERGY SOURCES

    The next step in the process of designing an economic amplifier is discovering the energy sources. The energy sources which support any primitive economic system are, of course, a supply of raw materials, and the consent of the people to labor and consequently assume a certain rank, position, level, or class in the social structure; i.e., to provide labor at various levels in the pecking order.

    Each class, in guaranteeing its own level of income, controls the class immediately below it, hence preserves the class structure. This provides stability and security, but also government from the top.

    As time goes on and communication and education improve, the lower- class elements of the social labor structure become knowledgeable and envious of the good things that the upper-class members have. They also begin to attain a knowledge of energy systems and the ability to enforce their rise through the class structure.

    This threatens the sovereignty of the elite.

    If this rise of the lower classes can be postponed long enough, the elite can achieve energy dominance, and labor by consent no longer will hold a position of an essential economic energy source.

    Until such energy dominance is absolutely established, the consent of people to labor and let others handle their affairs must be taken into consideration, since failure to do so could cause the people to interfere in the final transfer of energy sources to the control of the elite.

    It is essential to recognize that at this time, public consent is still an essential key to the release of energy in the process of economic amplification.

    Therefore, consent as an energy release mechanism will now be considered.

    LOGISTICS

    The successful application of a strategy requires a careful study of inputs, outputs, the strategy connecting the inputs and the outputs, and the available energy sources to fuel the strategy. This study is called logistics.

    A logistical problem is studied at the elementary level first, and then levels of greater complexity are studied as a synthesis of elementary factors.

    This means that a given system is analyzed, i.e., broken down into its subsystems, and these in turn are analyzed, until, by this process, one arrives at the logistical “atom,” the individual.

    This is where the process of synthesis properly begins, and at the time of the birth of the individual.

    THE ARTIFICIAL WOMB

    From the time a person leaves its mother’s womb, its every effort is directed toward building, maintaining, and withdrawing into artificial wombs, various sorts of substitute protective devices or shells.

    The objective of these artificial wombs is to provide a stable environment for both stable and unstable activity; to provide a shelter for the evolutionary processes of growth and maturity — i.e., survival; to provide security for freedom and to provide defensive protection for offensive activity.

    This is equally true of both the general public and the elite. However, there is a definite difference in the way each of these classes go about the solution of problems.

    THE POLITICAL STRUCTURE OF A NATION — DEPENDENCY

    The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when they wake up in the morning.

    This public demand is incredible, so the human god, the politician, meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? the public? or the “godfather”?

    This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public.

    ACTION / OFFENSE

    Most people want to be able to subdue and/or kill other human beings which disturb their daily lives, but they do not want to have to cope with the moral and religious issues which such an overt act on their part might raise. Therefore, they assign the dirty work to others (including their own children) so as to keep the blood off their own hands. They rave about the humane treatment of animals and then sit down to a delicious hamburger from a whitewashed slaughterhouse down the street and out of sight. But even more hypocritical, they pay taxes to finance a professional association of hit men collectively called politicians, and then complain about corruption in government.

    RESPONSIBILITY

    Again, most people want to be free to do things (to explore, etc.) but they are afraid to fail.

    The fear of failure is manifested in irresponsibility, and especially in delegating those personal responsibilities to others where success is uncertain or carries possible or created liabilities (law) which the person is not prepared to accept. They want authority (root word — “author”), but they will not accept responsibility or liability. So they hire politicians to face reality for them.

    SUMMARY

    The people hire the politicians so that the people can:

    obtain security without managing it.

    obtain action without thinking about it.

    inflict theft, injury, and death upon others without having to contemplate either life or death.

    avoid responsibility for their own intentions.

    obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves in the discipline of facing or learning either of these things.

    They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to:

    provide for the survival of the nation/womb.

    prevent encroachment of anything upon the nation/womb.

    destroy the enemy who threatens the nation/womb.

    destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform for the sake of stability of the nation/womb.

    Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police which are soldiers, the attorneys and the C.P.A.s next who are spies and saboteurs (licensed), and the judges who shout the orders and

  • eddiedollars215

    Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police which are soldiers, the attorneys and the C.P.A.s next who are spies and saboteurs (licensed), and the judges who shout the orders and run the closed union military shop for whatever the market will bear. The generals are industrialists. The “presidential” level of commander- in-chief is shared by the international bankers. The people know that they have created this farce and financed it with their own taxes (consent), but they would rather knuckle under than be the hypocrite.

    Thus, a nation becomes divided into two very distinct parts, a docile sub-nation and a political sub-nation. The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation, tolerates it, and leaches its substance until it grows strong enough to detach itself and then devour its parent.

    SYSTEM ANALYSIS

    In order to make meaningful computerized economic decisions about war, the primary economic flywheel, it is necessary to assign concrete logistical values to each element of the war structure — personnel and material alike.

    This process begins with a clear and candid description of the subsystems of such a structure.

    THE DRAFT

    (As military service)

    Few efforts of human behavior modification are more remarkable or more effective than that of the socio-military institution known as the draft. A primary purpose of the draft or other such institution is to instill, by intimidation, in the young males of a society the uncritical conviction that the government is omnipotent. He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a bullet can do in an instant. Thus, a man trained in a religious environment for eighteen years of his life can, by this instrument of the government, be broken down, be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. Once that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy to instill.

    Even more interesting is the process by which a young man’s parents, who purportedly love him, can be induced to send him off to war to his death. Although the scope of this work will not allow this matter to be expanded in full detail, nevertheless, a coarse overview will be possible and can serve to reveal those factors which must be included in some numerical form in a computer analysis of social and war systems.

    We begin with a tentative definition of the draft. The draft (selective service, etc.) is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and slavery, devised by the middle-aged and the elderly for the purpose of pressing the young into doing the public dirty work. It further serves to make the youth as guilty as the elders, thus making criticism of the elders by the youth less likely (Generational Stabilizer). It is marketed and sold to the public under the label of “patriotic = national” service.

    Once a candid economic definition of the draft is achieved, that definition is used to outline the boundaries of a structure called a Human Value System, which in turn is translated into the terms of game theory. The value of such a slave laborer is given in a Table of Human Values, a table broken down into categories by intellect, experience, post-service job demand, etc.

    Some of these categories are ordinary and can be tentatively evaluated in terms of the value of certain jobs for which a known fee exists. Some jobs are harder to value because they are unique to the demands of social subversion, for an extreme example: the value of a mother’s instruction to her daughter, causing that daughter to put certain behavioral demands upon a future husband ten or fifteen years hence; thus, by suppressing his resistance to a perversion of a government, making it easier for a banking cartel to buy the State of New York in, say, twenty years.

    Such a problem leans heavily upon the observations and data of wartime espionage and many types of psychological testing. But crude mathematical models (algorithms, etc.) can be devised, if not to predict, at least to predetermine these events with maximum certainty. What does not exist by natural cooperation is thus enhanced by calculated compulsion. Human beings are machines, levers which may be grasped and turned, and there is little real difference between automating a society and automating a show factory.

    These derived values are variable. (It is necessary to use a current Table of Human Values for computer analysis.) These values are given in true measure rather than U.S. dollars, since the latter is unstable, being presently inflated beyond the production of national goods and services so as to give the economy a false kinetic energy (“paper” inductance).

    The silver value is stable, it being possible to buy the same amount with a gram of silver today as could be bought in 1920. Human value measured in silver units changes slightly due to changes in production technology.

    ENFORCEMENT

    FACTOR I

    As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by understanding and accounting for human nature (action / reaction patterns). A failure to do so can be, and usually is, disastrous.

    As in other human social schemes, one form or another of intimidation (or incentive) is essential to the success of the draft. Physical principles of action and reaction must be applied to both internal and external subsystems.

    To secure the draft, individual brainwashing / programming and both the family unit and the peer group must be engaged and brought under control.

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    where can i find the book “silent weapons for quiet wars”?

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :) (Check me out!)

    i am so getting that book!

    __________________

    I dont think you can buy it….THIS WAS A TOP SECRET MANUAL LEFT ON A GOVERNMENT COPY MACHINE THAT WAS SOLD..OOOOPS….just Google and read baby girl, Its deep

  • Mrs. Philly

    Whats with all the copying and pasting???

  • chaka1

    What we need to do is figure out what the Jews did. Hitler took all of their money, separated families, and murdered millions and millions of them. Nearly wiped them out. Somehow as a culture they bounced back to be the richest “minority” in this country. What do they have that we don’t?

  • eddiedollars215

    @ CUTIE PIE YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT I’M PRETTY SURE I JUST POSTED THE WHOLE THIS IN THIS THREAD… IF I CAN FIND IT ONLINE YOU CAN TOO… BUT YOU CAN JUST FOLLOW MY BEAUTIFUL FACE AND READ IT HERE… NO NEED TO EVEN LEAVE THE THREAD…

  • nann

    DAMN imma get dat silent war book. thx for da heads up on dat one. by the way: redd tony: U R SO RIGHT (movin hood families into nice homes). i live in a ‘nice house’ wit my parents n my cousin but my mama still has her ‘hood’ mentality or ‘hood way’ of doin shyt. she wanted to change the house around last year n i told her: ‘ma, if u gon renovate, u gotta renovate ur mind too. u gon have a nice floor, nice furniture, but if u have the same mentality, it’ll look the same a few weeks after ur done wit renovations’. she kept on brushin me off. wat do yall think happened huh?? SUCKS TEETH. da house looks juss the same… except we have a nice floor now… got books, clothes, shoes, boxes n shyt everywhere…. bunch of old ass papers on the table. shyt, when i feel like sittin at the table to eat, i gotta shove all the shyt to the side of the table. AND MY MAMA HAS THE AUDACITY OF GETTIN MAD AT ME CUZ I MESSED UP HER TABLE. dammit. i cant wait to move out. at first i was plannin on movin to new york but best believe i scratched dat option out!!!! i love ny wit a passion but not enuff to go broke.

  • Ms. Toson

    FF and eddiedollars..I applaud you on hitting the nail on the head with such pinpoint accuracy.

  • eddiedollars215

    @ CHACKA… IT’S DEEPER THAN THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK INTO ZIONISM… AND THEN TENTONIC ZIONISM… HITLER WAS A JEW (DISPUTABLE)… AND WAS FUNDED BY JEWS (INDISPUTABLE)… FURTHERMORE… THE JEWS WERE NEVER BRED TO BE BIG AND DUMB FOR CENTURIES… NO JOKE AND I NEED AN ANSWER… HAVE YOU EVER READ THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER… IF NOT YOU NEED TO READ IT… IT PUTS ALOT INTO PERSPECTIVE…

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    I feel you, but your idea is easier said than done, how could we help condition families like this to preserve the wealth and keep it in the family. Thats the key, education on how to maintain the wealth

    ___________________________________________________

    @Redd Tony

    I hear ya. Like I said earlier, this is not an overnight process. BUT!

    Let’s start from scratch. Many black folks don’t have, or have never had wealth. How can we teach them to preserve it when they’re barely learning to save the little bit of money they’re making? They stay in the hood, around the same people who spend all their money, and their kids will do the same, never learning what means to save. Cause they’re stuck in the same cycle. And they go to the local neighborhood school, which is filled with kids with the same issues.

    Put them in a REAL school, with diversity not only just as far as skin tone, but middle class, lower class, and upper class students, and there is inspiration. There is a way OUT.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    nann(Check me out!)

    DAMN imma get dat silent war book. thx for da heads up on dat one. by the way: redd tony: U R SO RIGHT (movin hood families into nice homes). i live in a ‘nice house’ wit my parents n my cousin but my mama still has her ‘hood’ mentality or ‘hood way’ of doin shyt. she wanted to change the house around last year n i told her: ‘ma, if u gon renovate, u gotta renovate ur mind too. u gon have a nice floor, nice furniture, but if u have the same mentality, it’ll look the same a few weeks after ur done wit renovations’. she kept on brushin me off. wat do yall think happened huh?? SUCKS TEETH. da house looks juss the same… except we have a nice floor now… got books, clothes, shoes, boxes n shyt everywhere…. bunch of old ass papers on the table. shyt, when i feel like sittin at the table to eat, i gotta shove all the shyt to the side of the table. AND MY MAMA HAS THE AUDACITY OF GETTIN MAD AT ME CUZ I MESSED UP HER TABLE. dammit. i cant wait to move out. at first i was plannin on movin to new york but best believe i scratched dat option out!!!! i love ny wit a passion but not enuff to go broke.

    ______________

    I feel you…yeah changing their mentality is the key

  • A+

    Cuz the states is the biggest mafia on this planet! and oh, cuz the richer get rich and the poorer poor!

    With the recession coming…not even Obama can save you…watch out folks

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @Re

    Yeah we gotta start some where right?

  • Mrs. Philly

    WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK OF OBAMA STATING THAT HE WILL NOT SUSPEND HIS CAMPAIGN JUST BECAUSE OF THE CRISIS, AND THAT A PRESIDENT HAS TO BE ABLE TO MULTI TASK??

  • Mrs. Philly

    EDDIE…Which post should I read…cause I’m at work…so which one is more important?

  • BeReal

    @RE – The government should take the money, break up those projects they’ve invested in to put all the black people together back in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s, and break that sh** up. Give poor black people a REAL place to live. So they can go to a REAL neighborhood school, not the ghetto azz school that get’s no funding. Give the kids hope, and idea of what life could really be like.

    **************************************

    I agree 100%, if you teach someone to fish they will eat forever as opposed to giving them a fish.

    I do think the money should be used wisely to spread out to the regular people. Not in ways of giving money directly but how about making banks decrease mortgage rates? This will make peoples mortgage more affordable. Or for those who are behind how about making some laws to protect their homes or come up with a plan to assist.

  • BeReal

    @Eddie – you know what I actually did look up some of the things you are talking about and I am not finished but it is some eye opening stuff.

  • even the recession i am still RICH

    i will tell u why, because people in the hood are lazy and black!! if u are a very hardworking person u will have money period!!! common sense.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @Ms Philly

    You gotta read it all to grasp the whole concept

  • Gem

    To satisfy the personal interests of private investers like, for example, they themselves [politicians] that have stocks and bonds invested in those companies. We repeated elect officials that are not serving the interests of “our people” and the only way to combat this problem is to elect people like ourselves, who come from where we do and understand our plight personally.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    even the recession i am still RICH(Check me out!)

    i will tell u why, because people in the hood are lazy and black!! if u are a very hardworking person u will have money period!!! common sense.

    ________________

    so whats ur supposed solution?

  • pm

    Make the schools compete to educate the kids by allowing parents to have the choice on where they go to school. Instead of forcing them to go to bad schools they live near. That would change the face of america. Thats better then any money they could ever give to the hood.

  • Nikki

    I understand that sometimes people fall on hard times and need a little assistance,but I’m so sick of the welfare queens I could just scream! Its unfair when I work hard all my life to do the right thing. I go to college,graduate, and these welfare chicks get all the breaks on health insurance, food and even housing. What do I get, the bill for these chicks laying on their triffling backs and having all of these little daddy less nappy head babies that they cant support. it just makes me damn sick!!!

  • http://myspace.com/wyfy WyzePro – “I let my tape rock till my tape pop “

    Lauren…I commend him….as President he would have to be able to handle all kinds off ish poppin off in different directions anyway…I think it was a sucka move for McCain to ask for a postponement

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    thanx redd and eddie!! :)

  • Dyma

    Both the hood and the government are triflin.

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @chaka1(Check me out!)

    What we need to do is figure out what the Jews did. Hitler took all of their money, separated families, and murdered millions and millions of them. Nearly wiped them out. Somehow as a culture they bounced back to be the richest “minority” in this country. What do they have that we don’t?

    =====================================================

    I believe the key word is culture. I have said to my boyfriend, who strongly disagrees, that Black Americans have no real culture, we’ve made a lot of changes and some progress since coming to America, but nothing like Jews who’ve had century upon century of culture. We were given our names, given a religion, etc.

    I know many people may not agree, but it’s what I feel. We’re a young culture in a young country that is constantly looking for our definition. We don’t have many traditions to go back on to dictate how we’ll handle our money and take care of ourselves and each other.

  • BeReal

    @pm – Make the schools compete to educate the kids by allowing parents to have the choice on where they go to school. Instead of forcing them to go to bad schools they live near. That would change the face of america. Thats better then any money they could ever give to the hood.

    ************************************

    I like this idea but what I also like is how about fixing the inner city schools? Teach our kids what everyone else is learning so that we can all start on the same page.

    Stop classifying our kids, parents stop letting your children be classified to get extra money from the government!

  • elaine

    The government could invest all the money they want in the “hood”. It still would not help. People would have to change their mentality first. Whenever black people, and this is true cause I have seen it, receive any type of money from the government, they want to buy coach bags, or expensive designer clothes. When instead they should try investing in education, or obtaining better productive enviornments for their children. I’m so tried of the government taking money out of my hard-earned check each month to pay for people who refuse to help themselves. I am tired of the excuses. No, it is not easy to better yourself, but it is worth and it can be done.

  • eddiedollars215

    @ MRS. PHILLY… SORRY ITS LIKE ONE LONG POST… JUST GOOGLE SECRET WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS… SKIM IT OVER AND I CAN ASSURE YOU YOU WILL FIND TIME TO READ IT… ALSO EVERYONE NEEDS TO READ THE WILLIE LYNCH LETTER IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY…

  • BeReal

    @whatsyours – I believe the key word is culture. I have said to my boyfriend, who strongly disagrees, that Black Americans have no real culture, we’ve made a lot of changes and some progress since coming to America, but nothing like Jews who’ve had century upon century of culture. We were given our names, given a religion, etc.

    I know many people may not agree, but it’s what I feel. We’re a young culture in a young country that is constantly looking for our definition. We don’t have many traditions to go back on to dictate how we’ll handle our money and take care of ourselves and each other.

    ______________________________

    Agree 10000%

  • TM

    Are you kidding me. Get off your ass and get a freakin job and stop looking for hand outs you lazy assholes!

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    “Make the schools compete to educate the kids by allowing parents to have the choice on where they go to school. Instead of forcing them to go to bad schools they live near. That would change the face of america. Thats better then any money they could ever give to the hood.”

    —————————————————

    I respectfully disagree with this..the problem will not be solved if people are running away from the problem and not attacking it head on. A lot of parents go above and beyond to have their kids go to “good schools” and will continue to walk past a school they’ve dubbed bad and not do anything to resolve the issue..if they do what u suggest we will end up with an even bigger issue then what we have now..even more crowded schools because everyone wants to put their kids in that same “good school” until there are no schools left except for one. The schools that are bad need the same attention the schools known as good get or there will be no schools at all

  • DA TRUFF — DA HOE TRUFF & NUTTIN’ BUTT DA TRUFF

    IT’S JUST THE AMERICAN WAY!

    IT THE WAY THIS NATION WAS SET-UP.

    IT HAS & WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY CHANGE OVER TIME…….

    BUT OLD HABITS DIE HARD.

  • Mrs. Philly

    wYZE…

    EXACTLY! And you know he’s buying time for Palin to brush up on foreign policy…

  • chloe

    The jews had reperations, and were given money by the u.s government to create businesses. Black people were given a welfare check and and the projects.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    @BE REAL

    I agree 100%, if you teach someone to fish they will eat forever as opposed to giving them a fish.

    _____________________________________________________

    YES!!!!!!!!!!! I really love that quote, it’s very smart and accurate.

  • Gem

    We need to make our kids politicians.

  • $moK.E.Y.

    To keep the rich, RICH and keep the poor, POOR!

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @Rossy(Check me out!)

    chloe

    Welfare was created by teddy rosevelt for poor white americans.

    ==========================================================

    SO TRUE! I love how we as Blacks have allowed pop culture to attribute things to us that aren’t ours! Like Ghettos were created for poor immigrants that the WASPs wanted to keep out of their neighborhoods.

  • DR.FUNK

    I might add that the 700bn WELFARE PACKAGE FOR STUPID WHITE BUSINESS PEOPLE is probably just a down payment.There’s more shoes that have yet to drop.I hope I’m wrong.

  • dahveeddahveed

    because america dosnt care about its slaves. the sooner bounce the better.

  • eddiedollars215

    @ ROSSY YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THE BOULE… THAT TALENTED TENTH WAS IN REALITY MENT TO KEEP THE OTHER 90% SUPPRESSED… LOOK AT WHAT BOOKER T. AND W.E.B. DID TO MARCUS GARVY… LOOK AT WHAT ELLIJAH DID TO MALCOM… LOOK AT WHAT JESSE DID TO MARTIN… OUR BLACK “HEROS” ARE NOT OUR HEROS… THEY ARE OVERSEERS MENT TO KEEP US ON THE PLANTATION OF HOPE… YOU REALLY GOTTA LOOK INTO THIS GOOGLE STEVE COKELY… HE HAS GOOD INFO AND CITES HIS SOURCES SO YOU CAN VERIFY… BUT HIS PRESENTATIONS ARE ALWAYS MAD LOW BUDGET…

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @eddiedollars215(Check me out!)

    @DR. FUNK… COSIGN MOSTLY… PEOPLE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AGAIN ALOT OF YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT INFORMED IN THIS AREA… THE PRUSSIAN MODEL SCHOOL SYSTEM WE HAVE TODAY IS MENT TO DUMB US DOWN… DON’T BELIEVE ME… I DON’T THINK MOST OF US WOULD’VE PASSED THE EIGHT GRADE 100 YEARS AGO… WOULD YOU (DIRECTED AT EVERYBODY)…

    ======================================================

    I’m going to have to agree with you on this. I grew up in prep schools, and the alumni from 20-30 years back were saying the schools get easier and easier with each generation. We’re now being taught more technology, but not the same math, English, social studies, etc.

    Schools, like colleges, were originally meant as a way to educate royals for the world stage. That’s why I don’t agree with everyone saying college needs to be made more affordable. The US gov’t is to only provide us education from kindergarten to 12th grade. College was created for the wealthy, not for everyman.

  • You Know !

    I think about all the “black people” who have made a difference and have managed to prosper in this society from Fredrick Douglas to today and it seems to me that one of the common threads amongst all of them is that they weren’t willing to just sit back and accept the lie nor give it any credence and just kept it moving regardless of the obstacles they faced.

  • nann

    @ youknow: u make a good point. there’s nothin cute bout the hood. everytime i go to the usa for a quick getaway, i go to bk. i made a few friends there n even tho i dont wanna judge ppl bcuz we all have our own life stories and different paths, i feel for most of my ppl there. im 23, i work gatdamn hard (except when i go on blogs loll damn yall! i usually dont post but this is a great topic for debate therefore i’ll post), i have 2 jobs, i graduated college and im tryna send my ass to university in 2 years, i decided to take control of my life and b held accountable for my mistakes etc. i have friends there who r almost 30, got a few kids here n there, cant write or read, spark up everyday all day aint doin shyt and then complain that life wont give them a break. and everytime i go, they’re like ‘u r ballin etc etc’ but forreal hell no i aint! yeah imma bring a lil money wit me when i go out of town but i aint ballin: i have bills, i have shyt to pay, the milk price done went up (i do the groceries at my house), the bread, the meat (even tho i dont eat it no mo i gotta buy it for the rest of the fam), etc. but im out there n im tryin somethin. one of my favorite songs is ‘git up get out’ by outkast n goodie mob. i mean, i tell my bk brothers to find their passion n get to work. u gotta help life help u, na mean? dont expect somebody to come thru n offer u a 500K/year job outta nowhere. nah man, u gotta work. i may not have much of a life right now because i work a lot, but at least i got a master plan in work. my friends are stuntin in their nice cars n nice clothes while i still have to save a lot before i even think bout shopping. but phock it, one day, life will reward me for all the hard work i put in. i hope each and everyone of yall r out there on ur grind, especially now that times r hard in america. get money, get an education and u kno wat, school aint for everybody. some ppl make it without a diploma. but they have willpower and perseverance and drive. and by the way, not juss hood schools but ALL schools need to re-evaluate wat they teach the kids. they need to stop fillin their heads wit bullshyt n start preparin them for the world (at a certain grade). teach kids how economy works, taxes, politics, savings, money control, values, etc. stuff that will mold their minds into the right direction. if tv keeps on being our kids’ teachers, they’ll end up even more f-cked up then they are now. kids nowadays dont make no gatdamn sense! bunch of disrespectful rugrats! i wish i had a right to whoop all their asses. shyt, i done seen some parents scared of their own kids! LAWDHAMMERCY!

  • You Know !

    @WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @Rossy(Check me out!)

    chloe

    Welfare was created by teddy rosevelt for poor white americans.

    ==========================================================

    SO TRUE! I love how we as Blacks have allowed pop culture to attribute things to us that aren’t ours! Like Ghettos were created for poor immigrants that the WASPs wanted to keep out of their neighborhoods.

    ————————————————

    It’s so funny that you said that because it is part of the lie that I’m talking about and you so many people “embracing” it instead of distancing themselves from it. Therefore perpetuating the situation.

  • WakeUp

    In order for people to understand they have to have an interest in learning about how the world works.

    This is a difficult thing for alot of us to do because speaking as a black man, we have to learn the game from two different perspectives. It calls for you to learn the rules of the game and then learn a different set of rules as they apply to a black man.

    Then the most difficult of all is being able to apply both sets of rules in proper context. Alot of us are not willing to do that.

  • nann

    rossy: forreal, i donno. we cant force ppl into wantin to go out there n get theirs n make somethin of themselves. but one thing i did notice is this: where i stay in bk, my friend works real hard (he wants to go into the filmin industry n all dat) and his work ethic actually encouraged one of his boys (who has no job, retired gangbanger, almost 30 cant read nor write, alcoholic in-n-out-of-his-life father and everythin else dats wrong wit the world) to go out n get a job. he told me ‘when i c him go to work in the morning (please note he crashes at my friends’ crib. his fam treat him like family), it makes me wanna go out there n work too’. juss that lil thought is a good seed, a good start to help build his confidence in himself n to go out n do somthin. he used to gangbang and when i asked him why, he told me his crew were lookin out for their block n watnot. i was like ‘how da f*ck u wanna look out for the block n at the same time sell them drugs that destroy the block?’. i encouraged him into goin to the community centre of the hood, get involved, n help out the community in the GOOD WAY. role models r extremely important. and im not referrin to superstars u c on tv. im talkin bout ppl u see in ur everyday life, ppl u can sit down wit n talk to and relate to. juss da fact that his homeboy was workin everyday goin to the city to make some dollars was inspirational to him na mean? but loll on the other end, this same homie told me that when he sees all his homies n his cousins hangin on the block sparkin up, he doesnt feel like goin to work in the morning, he wants to hang out on the corner too. na mean? its a vicious circle.

  • You Know !

    @ Rossy

    SO TRUE! I love how we as Blacks have allowed pop culture to attribute things to us that aren’t ours! Like Ghettos were created for poor immigrants that the WASPs wanted to keep out of their neighborhoods.

    ———————————————-

    I was talking about and how so many people are “embracing” what has come to be attributed to “black people” instead of distancing themselves from it for fear of being called a sell out or something being deemed something else derogatory. Therefore perpetuating the situation.

    It seems to me that in some cases the saying “Misery Loves Company” is certainly true.

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    @ missy

    absolutely!! corporate america is like a gang..there was that one year where wall street were bringing in the bucks and buying dumb expensive houses, cars, etc..the economy was supposedly doing well and all along I knew something wasn’t right..where did all this money come from?? it really is a shame

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    I thought this counrty was in debt?!?! where the hell did they spring this $700 billion?? I tell u where it will be coming right out of our pockets

  • elaine

    Rossy you were right when you stated: “That is what I am saying it is happening now. They never came back and people from the hood dont come back.”

    But why come back, when you are actually looked down up because you have an education or can actually read a book, or even perhaps intrested in other things besides finding a rich babby daddy, or club hopping. I grew up in a down out area, yet I sought education and I am now an attorney. I act no differently now than I did than, however, I am the one who is acutally looked down upon whenever I chose to go back.

    To go back would be the opposite of uplifitng and down right depressing. We can’t make people change they actually have to want to change.

  • Crystal

    Well why would they!? We don’t even care about our selves! We kill each other, beat each other down, turn our backs on one another, and hell we can’t even come together as one race to help the next man up! I’m so sick of hearing people talk about what the “white man” aint doing. Its not up to them dumb asses its up to you, me, us, and we. We have to change everything about our culture. We’ve somehow become lazy and blind to seize the moment and take advantage of the opportunity. I’m 26yrs old, a single mother of a beautiful 4yr old boy. And it took for me to have my son to realize that it’s not up to anyone else to make away for me it’s up to me. I work full time, got to school part time, got my own car, own house, and yes Im still out here grinding because no one else will make a way for me. It’s sad to see all the young men out here just GIVING their lives to the government. Saying that they do what they do for they’re hood. My question is “HOW MUCH LAND DO YOU OWN IN THAT HOOD?” I’m sorry but everytime

  • You Know !

    STEFANY

    (Check me out!)

    IT’S JUST THE AMERICAN WAY!

    IT THE WAY THIS NATION WAS SET-UP.

    IT HAS & WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY CHANGE OVER TIME…….

    BUT OLD HABITS DIE HARD.

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    @DA TRUFF — DA HOE TRUFF & NUTTIN’ BUTT DA TRUFF

    THANK YOU!

    This system was designed for the failure of black people and black men in paticular,

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    I beg to differ. The system was designed so that the “white man” could prosper. As long as you believe it was design to hold you down psychologically you will be in a perpetual state of

    helplessness. Always trying too climb out of the hole.

    If it were true that it was designed to hold “black men” down no would have made it up, believe that.

    People need to start realizing that the system works both ways and “the system” is what made it possible for the Civil Rights Movement and for “black people” in this country to have made the progress from being slaves to today.

  • nann

    in relation to wat LadyD said, why do black ppl say dat shyt when u get a good job?? wtf? dats dat ole skool 1920′s mentality. juss cuz u get a good job they say u wanna act white? juss cuz u get an education they say u wanna b white? wtf? so wat r they sayin, bein black is all bout being proud of not havin an education, being broke, being ghetto, have 4 kids by 3 baby daddies by the time u hit 25 and ur most of ur friends r either dead or in jail? wtf? i cant stand dat stupidness but then again its not all our fault. we were conditionned to believe that. white ppl didnt want us to b anything more than slaves. yall read the book ‘miseducation of the negro’?? whites didnt want blacks to b smart. im readin this book right now its called ‘black boy’ by richard wright. great book. but i shed a few tears, i aint gon lie. them white krakkaz were MEAN! f-ckin hell…

  • cutie pie*kindly putting people on blast est.1985*We are officially in the sun sign of Libra!!!! Time to rejoice :)

    @ nann

    “black boy” is one of my favorite books I read in high school as well as in college…it really touced my heart

  • WhodatsaidDat?-Boggle Minded

    F*CK A AIG!

  • Anonymous

    @chaka1 What do the Jews have?

    Strong Religous faith + strong work ethic + strong families + An understanding of money = success, despite persecution

    Strong Faith – They actually live their jewish faith. Unlike most Black Christains, faith only exists on Sundays.

    Strong Work Ethic – They work hard to be the best at what they do.

    Strong families – They can rely on each other when one falls or need help. Extended families live together while a kid studies to be a doctor or lawyer. Then he can live independently.

    Understand money – Money isn’t to be spent on cars, bling, hairstyles etc. Save, invest, buy property (not at overinflated prices), give back to community (not just churches),

  • http://www.jhazzaisworld.wordpress.com Jhazzai

    I said the same thing! Why isn’t there emergency funding for these poor underequipped public schools, and no state is to be shutting down hospitals. They have shut down umteen hospitals here in the L.A. district and there is never to be a shortage of hospitals, nor medical supplies, regardless of whether they are government funded or not! WTF?

    http://www.jhazzaisworld.wordpress.com

  • Lady D

    @ Rossy:

    I don’t know what to do girl… I went home and some of my closest friends were looking at me like I was the enemy. A lot of people don’t realize that they can be their own worst enemy. Sadly, I started talking about the election and asking if they were going to vote, and they all went off like I was insulting them. It’s a real sad sight, and I realize that it’s so hard to help those who are so content with their situation. These are people I once looked up to, and now I can’t even help them. That’s a cycle that I’m afraid can’t be broken. Until they want more, they will be stuck. I don’t look down on anyone because I’m blessed to be where I am, and I know I could end up back where I was, but damn… It’s just sad.

  • WakeUp

    OHNO

    Let me explain something to you my friend and please read with an open mind.

    The reason this 700 billion is needed is because the banks are holding a bunch of mortgages that are at high risk of going into default.

    In order for our economy to function properly banks need to lend to each other and they need to lend to both small and large businesses and they need to lend to us.

    Because they have some of these bad mortgages on their books, banks do not want to lend money too each other. As a result, they also don’t want to lend money to businesses or to citizens.

    When this happens, it then becomes easy to see how we are all connected to wall street. Think about it. If it is too hard to obtain credit to buy a home, then home prices continue to fall. If people can’t obtain car loans, then less cars are sold and auto workers get laid off because they don’t need to produce as much.

    When small business owners can’t obtain credit to expand their businesses, or in some cases to finance payroll, then less jobs are created and in some cases jobs are lost. As the economy stops creating jobs and starts losing jobs, people stop spending money and this leads to more job losses.

    The goal of the 700 billion is for the us gov to purchase the bad debt that the citizens of the country took out in mortgages and home equity loans, and sit on these loans until the housing market and economy settles down and these loans can then be resold back into the market.

    There is no point in boo hooing about how the country should not run on credit, because credit has and will always be around and a necessary part of life. It is what it is and unless the government does something to improve the flow of credit in this country we are in deep trouble

  • You Know !

    Racism on the other hand, although a part of the system, is a mechanism that was set in place by those in power to stay in power and was used as a means of control to hold “everybody” else down. If you had the power would you want to relinquish that power or stay in power?.

  • Rosie

    RON G… Your a stupid ignorant fool!!! White people are the same way… It’s called ‘Trailor Trash’ Looks like your one of them because you’d have the nerve to make a dumb ass comment like that! Racist Punk!

  • eddiedollars215

    @ WAKE UP NO OFFENSE BUT YOU DON’T KNOW HISTORY…

    TERMS TO LOOK UP…

    MAGANA CARTA…

    GOLD STANDARD…

    FRACTIONAL RESERVE…

    THE FEDERAL RESERVE…

    THE U.S. TREASURY…

    YOU SAID GOVERNMENT… I’VE DONE THIS BEFORE BY MISTAKE… YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID FED… THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FED AND THE TREASURY… I DON’T THINK ALOT OF YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT…

  • nann

    @ ladyD: shyt, when u do better than others (especially ppl who r part of ur circle), they tend to b jealous n hate instead of wantin to celebrate wat u got n try to get some for themselves. and often, they try to take wat u have instead of goin out there n get their own. pretty sad. they’re ur friends when ur down n out wit them, but once ur on the come-up, they hate on u n they aint f-ckin wit u no more. dats dat bullshyt. f-ck em then. u dont need dat in ur life. they were never ur friends to start wit. i wonder if pride does dat to ppl. they’re too proud to ask u for some comin-up tips n how to get theirs like u got urs n shyt. i suck my teeth at all them. shyt, u dont like it? try to beat me to it! that’ll encourage them to get off their asses and work for a change. girl, b proud of urself n walk wit ur head high. God has blessed u wit a functionnin body n brain and u were smart enough to use them to ur advantage n now u r blessed with success. good 4 u.

  • Kompton’s Kutie {{Suivez la Faveur}}

    They need to give every taxpayer their money back. It’s a lot of stuff I could have done with mine. Buster azz government!

  • eddiedollars215

    Bernanke: Not Only Should Taxpayers Buy the Toxic Waste, They Should Pay Premium Prices for It

    Cryptogon

    September 24, 2008

    In a sane world, these monsters would be torn limb from limb and shredded into maggot food—a role in which they could actually do some good.

    Drill holes around the base of a bucket. Place some banker parts in the bucket with a bit of straw and hang it a couple of feet above your chickens. After a few days (during warm weather), the maggots will spill out onto the ground. The chickens will gather below the bucket, waiting for the protein packed morsels to fall from above.

    Of course, I’m not actually suggesting that people should kill bankers and turn them into maggot food.

    The stench would be overpowering. And that’s before the maggots could do their handy work.

    Via: AP:

    Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke told Congress Tuesday the government should pay more than “fire-sale” prices for the toxic assets it would acquire under a proposed $700 billion bailout plan. That could mean both higher initial costs for taxpayers and reduced returns when the assets are later resold.

    Bernanke’s comment was the first indication of how he and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson are thinking about formulating the rescue plan’s medicine in a way that doesn’t kill the patients. Requiring banks and other financial institutions to sell troubled loans and other assets anywhere close to recent sales prices of only a few cents on the dollar could wipe out the net worth of many and lead to a new wave of bank failures.

    The Fed chairman said he favors buying the assets based on their “hold-to-maturity” value, which would require an estimate to be made of what each security will eventually be worth as payments come in over the years.

    “If the Treasury bids for and then buys assets at a price close to the hold-to-maturity price, there will be substantial benefits,” Bernanke told the Senate Banking Committee. “First, banks will have a basis for valuing those assets and will not have to use fire-sale prices. Their capital will not be unreasonably marked down.”

  • eddiedollars215

    Treasury Grab Bag Has Few Limits, No Oversight

    JESS BRAVIN

    Wall Street Journal

    September 22, 2008

    Few Limits Proposed for Treasury

    Draft Rescue Bill Bars Court Review, Riling Lawmakers

    If the Bush administration has its way, anyone harmed by the Treasury Department’s handling of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout might have no remedy.

    Draft legislation proposes sweeping powers for Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to buy and sell mortgage-related securities however he sees fit. Aside from requiring periodic reports to Congress, the bill provides no oversight of the bailout’s management — and specifically bars any court or agency from reviewing it.

    Congressional Democrats said they were wary of handing a lame-duck administration what one aide called a “blank check.”

    House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D., Mich.) “is very concerned about the breadth of the draft language, and we are working to insure that reasonable limits are included,” a committee staffer said.

    The effort to block court review reminded some congressional staffers of the Bush administration’s response to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, when it issued language and took steps to keep judges from second-guessing decisions about wiretapping and detention of suspected enemy agents.

  • eddiedollars215

    America Versus the Financial Elite

    George Washington’s Blog

    September 23, 2008

    The people don’t want it (see this poll showing that only 28% support the bailout; and see this).

    Most economists don’t want it (see this and this).

    Many congress people don’t want it (see here and here).

    So who wants the bailout?

    The only people who want it are the big money boys, the ultra elite, including the Wall Street fat cats and Fed who got us into this mess, and their counterparts abroad who would also be bailed out (see this and this).

    It is literally America versus the financial elite.

  • STEFANY

    I beg to differ. The system was designed so that the “white man” could prosper. As long as you believe it was design to hold you down psychologically you will be in a perpetual state of

    helplessness. Always trying too climb out of the hole.

    If it were true that it was designed to hold “black men” down no would have made it up, believe that.

    People need to start realizing that the system works both ways and “the system” is what made it possible for the Civil Rights Movement and for “black people” in this country to have made the progress from being slaves to today.

    ****************************************************

    @ YOU KNOW

    Good Point,

    I agree we have come a long way but we could do so much better with proper and equal education..Look at our contributions to the scienes, math and medicine that we don’e even get credit for and we was doing that back in the day with little or no technology..The system gives us enough to get by but not enough to be equal..And you’re so right the white man is prospering while our black shools go to hell the drop out rate for young blacks are at around 50%, just like he prospers off all of the crack, cocain, and heroine that he floods our neighborhoods with to help us destroy our own..I do bleieve that the system is designed for our failure, but the strong survive, those of us who have a sound mind, a desire to learn and rise above being a statistic or the trap that he set, while the uneducated, misguided poor and ignorant walk right into it with their eyes wide open.

  • eddiedollars215

    Cooking the Books, Circa 1999

    Kurt Nimmo

    Infowars

    September 22, 2008

    Let’s climb aboard the wayback machine and travel to 1999. It is the end of the Clinton administration and U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers is ebullient. He claims for “first time in 25 years, the US Government plans to reduce the size of the national debt,” according to the BBC. “The news represents a transformation of the US budget position, after struggling with huge deficits for most of the last decade.”

    In order to demonstrate this fantasy, the Congressional Budget Office releases a chart. It supposedly projects debt reduction upon the magical appearance of surpluses, sort of like manna falling from heaven. It is a chart appropriate for a new edition of Brothers Grimm fairy tales.

    “The proposal comes as Democrats and Republicans squabble over what to do with the growing US budget surplus,” the BBC continues.

    Last year, the government had a surplus of $69.2 billion, a total which is likely to be exceeded this year. It is the first time since 1957 that the US has had two consecutive years of budget surplus.

    Official projections suggest trillions of dollars in budget surpluses over the next 15 years, boosted by a strong economy and strict controls on spending.

    Actually, if we invert the chart we get a better idea of what really happened. Moreover, the Clinton White House and the Treasury, led by the free trader — as in unrestrained and unchecked transnational corporate looting — and World Bank globalist Larry Summers, were blowing smoke out of a certain orifice. It was all smoke and mirrors, designed to fool the easily fooled public, that is to say those bothering to pay attention.

    Clinton said he was paying down the debt and his scheme would continue to do so. In fact, the national debt continued to go up like a roman candle. Consider the following chart, produced by U.S. Treasury.

    Fiscal

    Year Year

    Ending National Debt Deficit

    FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion

    FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion

    FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion

    FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion

    FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion

    FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion

    FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion

    FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion

    FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

    Clinton never produced a surplus, as die hard Democrats like to claim, thus the globalist Summers’ projections were pure nonsense. “As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a budget surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit,” writes the Lexta website. “As is usually the case in claims such as this, it has to do with Washington doublespeak and political smoke and mirrors.”

    When Clinton (and others) said that he had paid down the national debt, that was patently false — as can be seen, the national debt went up every single year. What Clinton did do was pay down the public debt — notice that the claimed surplus is relatively close to the decrease in the public debt for those years. But he paid down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intergovernmental holdings.

    How did Clinton make it look like he lorded over a surplus? He took the money from intergovernmental holdings, more specifically Social Security. As the chart below demonstrates, the public debt went down and the intergovernmental holdings went up each year by a far greater amount and the total national debt (which is public debt + intergovernmental holdings) went up. It was a slimy premeditated lie that went over big in the corporate media at the time. Democrats to this day insist Clinton created a surplus, only to be squandered by Bush.

    Fiscal

    Year End

    Date Claimed

    Surplus Public

    Debt Inter-gov

    Holdings Total National

    Debt

    FY1997 09/30/1997 $3.789667T $1.623478T $5.413146T

    FY1998 09/30/1998 $69.2B $3.733864T $55.8B $1.792328T $168.9B $5.526193T $113B

    FY1999 09/30/1999 $122.7B $3.636104T $97.8B $2.020166T $227.8B $5.656270T $130.1B

    FY2000 09/29/2000 $230.0B $3.405303T $230.8B $2.268874T $248.7B $5.674178T $17.9B

    FY2001 09/28/2001 $3.339310T $66.0B $2.468153T $199.3B $5.807463T $133.3B

    “The net effect was that the national debt most definitely did not get paid down because we did not have a surplus. The government just covered its deficit by borrowing money from Social Security rather than the public,” concludes Lextra.

    So, the lesson here is that government not only steals — in the above case, from Social Security — but it will invariably tell big whopper lies to make you think things are peachy keen when in fact they are just the opposite.

    For instance, the Banker Party expects us to believe bailing out their criminal mega-klepto friends will save the economy. In fact, all this will do is add an immense weight to the national debt, already straining at the seams, due in large part to neocon wars based on lies and al-Qaeda fairy tales. Sooner or later — and likely sooner before later — the American people will be reduced to poverty under the strain of significantly increased taxation (coupled with crippling hyper-inflation) and thus the predatory government will look to the holders of U.S. dollars and this will completely destroy the currency.

    Of course, this path to destruction was sketched out some time ago. After the dollar is destroyed we will be told our only choice will be to create a new transnational currency, most likely the Amero, and in order to survive and prosper we must merge with Canada and Mexico into a North American Union. By the time this scam is foisted on the American people, they will be so desperate they will accept almost anything, as Henry Kissinger knew when he told his globalist buddies at a Bilderberg meeting in 1992:

    Today Americans would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their World Government.

  • eddiedollars215

    I TRIED TO GO AND TRADE SOME OLD STAMPS MY GRANDFATHER LEFT ME FOR MORE COINS… AND THEY LAUGHED AT ME… HAHAHAHA… SO I SOLD EM’ STRAIGHT UP AND BOUGHT SOME HEIRLOOM SEEDS… TOO BAD ITS ALREADY WINTER… HAHAHA

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @Eddie Dollars-

    What kind of heirloom seeds did you buy?

  • Nita

    @Hannibal wrote, “IF YOU PUT YOUR MOUSE ON THE PICTURE, LOOK WHAT IS SAYS…”

    You’re usually an asshole……. but damned if that isn’t a great catch.

    ‘blackkid4′

    Say what? What the hell is that about?

    Hannibal, do you know something that you’re not telling us about this site?

  • WakeUp

    eddie

    I realize that the FED is different than The Treasury. And when I say government, I mean in the purpose of the dialogue that we are having with respect to the bailout yes, I am lumping them all together. From a technical standpoint this may be a mistake and your point is taken. However in light of the fact that The FED and the Treasury can’t execute this so called bail out without approval from Congress…..

  • Nita

    @WakeUp wrote, “The goal of the 700 billion is for the us gov to purchase the bad debt that the citizens of the country took out in mortgages and home equity loans, and sit on these loans until the housing market and economy settles down and these loans can then be resold back into the market. ”

    Actually, the real story is the global scale of FRAUD committed by these companies. The bailout is to pay off the foreigners so that they don’t take these American companies to court.

    And that’s on TOP of the fraud committed by companies… which I’ll post an excerpt of below this post.

    Check it out… San Francisco Gate, 2007, had these people’s number:

    MORTGAGE MELTDOWN

    Interest rate ‘freeze’ – the real story is fraud

    Bankers pay lip service to families while scurrying to avert suits, prison

    Sean Olender

    Sunday, December 9, 2007

    New proposals to ease our great mortgage meltdown keep rolling in. First the Treasury Department urged the creation of a new fund that would buy risky mortgage bonds as a tactic to hide what those bonds were really worth. (Not much.) Then the idea was to use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy the risky loans, even if it was clear that U.S. taxpayers would eventually be stuck with the bill. But that plan went south after Fannie suffered a new accounting scandal, and Freddie’s existing loan losses shot up more than expected.

    Now, just unveiled Thursday, comes the “freeze,” the brainchild of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. It sounds good: For five years, mortgage lenders will freeze interest rates on a limited number of “teaser” subprime loans. Other homeowners facing foreclosure will be offered assistance from the Federal Housing Administration.

    But unfortunately, the “freeze” is just another fraud – and like the other bailout proposals, it has nothing to do with U.S. house prices, with “working families,” keeping people in their homes or any of that nonsense.

    The sole goal of the freeze is to prevent owners of mortgage-backed securities, many of them foreigners, from suing U.S. banks and forcing them to buy back worthless mortgage securities at face value – right now almost 10 times their market worth.

    The ticking time bomb in the U.S. banking system is not resetting subprime mortgage rates. The real problem is the contractual ability of investors in mortgage bonds to require banks to buy back the loans at face value if there was fraud in the origination process.

    (continued at the site. do a search for the title of the article, author, and newspaper)

  • eddiedollars215

    @WAKEUP… CONGRESS HAHAHA… WITH THEIR 9% APPROVAL RATING…

    Is Congress Relevant?

    Christopher Manion

    LRC Blog

    September 24, 2008

    Remember when Bill Clinton insisted that “I am still relevant”?

    I wonder if Congress is relevant any more. Yesterday, when Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke advocated legislation that divests Congress of most of its constitutional powers regarding the economy, members of Congress meekly sat there, instead of calling the Sergeant at Arms and having Paulson and Bernanke arrested.

    Now Bruce Fein, a careful constitutional scholar and Reagan Administration legal advisor, calls on Congress to exercise another of its powers — to hold impeachment hearings regarding the lies that Dick Cheney told Dick Armey in his effort to get Armey’s support for the Iraq War.

    Will the majority Democrat Congress do its duty? Or will it merely coast to victory without rocking the boat? Perhaps candidate McCain should attack this Congress head on: “why do you complain about Bush-Cheney’s power grabs, when you fail to use the constitutional power that you already have?”

    Or, perhaps not.

  • Nita

    More fraud, as detailed by Daily Kos writer, Jesselyn Radack (apparently, she’s an attorney who used to work for the US Justice Department, and has a book out). As for the tactics she describes, I’ve heard about them too, for years. Nobody cared who was in a position to care, as long as the economy was artificially propped up on bogus numbers. This leads back to foreign banks because these corporations and mortgage lenders were lying about the worth of a lot of these papers. This fraud is the reason why I say none of these people should be paid a dime:

    Whistleblowers Tried to Stop Market Meltdown & Need to be Protected in Any Fix

    by Jesselyn Radack

    Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 04:50:40 AM MST

    ….. (snip) ….

    Any credible reform must include whistleblower protection, because any paper “accountability” mandate is impossible to enforce unless those who witness corruption can bear witness. At the loan origination level, disclosures of the following misconduct at major lenders were ignored or suppressed with retaliation:

    1. forging customer signatures on declarations alleging that the customer knew they were eligible for, and did not want, lower interest;

    2. fixed-rate, non-subprime loans;

    3. false statements in loan portfolios and disclosures of risks to borrowers;

    4. “arts and crafts” routines to falsify incomes or loan histories;

    5. failure to ask borrowers their salaries when determining financial qualifications;

    6. training employees to say “anything necessary” to secure a borrower’s signature.

    … (snip) ….

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @Eddie-

    While I may not agree with you 100% on your political views, I do applaud your use of heirloom seeds for growing your garden. I can’t wait to become a homeowner so I can start my own little crop.

    We have an independent weekly in Dallas called The Observer and I was just reading their article today on “localvores” people who only (or for the most part) eat locally grown produce and locally raised meats. It’s pretty interesting.

  • kai (fre and fnm in the high 2′s, time for my LV. There is a light)

    If this is the case yall dumbasses should open mutual funds..nows the time..if we move forward, ya could be thousands of dollars richer..GET OFF THE MESSAGE BOARDS and stop worrying about jay z’s money, but your own..

    Thank you

  • WakeUp

    eddie what does the approval rating of congress have to do with this?

    I watched the hearings they had the last two days on all of this. I know many of them are a bunch of liars and thieves but they still have to vote on this issue

  • The Bear

    Bush and Cheney are about to close up shop so they’re just bringing in the lambs(all of us) for one last giant fleecing. Anybody who doesn’t see this is fast asleep.

    Just last month Bush was talking about how strong the economy is now we’re at the brink of disaster. They know exactly what they’re doing.

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @Wake up

    However in light of the fact that The FED and the Treasury can’t execute this so called bail out without approval from Congress…..

    _______________________

    This thing is the President can already declare certain legislation for so called National Security threats without the authority of Congress, and Im sure the President can move this $700 Bill legislation without Congress…we will see

  • Nita

    Final One, An Alternative to Bailing Out Crooks. The Birkenmeier Plan (sounds like a joke post. found it on Fark, cut and pasted by fumb duck, but you know.. why wouldn’t it work? ):

    ————————————————

    I’m against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

    Instead, I’m in favor of giving $85,000,000,000.00 to America in a We Deserve It Dividend.

    To make the math simple, let’s assume there are 200,000.000 bonafide U.S. Citizens 18 yoa+.

    Our population is about 310,000,00 +/- counting every man, woman and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 yoa+.

    So divide 200 millions adult 18+ into $85 billion and that equals $425,000.00.

    My plan is to give $425,000.00 to every person 18 + as a We Deserve It Dividend.

    Of course, it would NOT be tax free.

    So let’s assume a tax rate of 30%.

    Every individual 18 + has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

    That sends $25,000,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

    But it means that every adult 18+ has to $297,500.00 in their pocket.

    A husband and wife have $595,000.00.

    What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?

    Pay of your mortgage-housing crisis solved.

    Repay college loans- what a great boost to new grad.

    Put away money for college- it’ll be there.

    Save in a bank- create money to loan to entrepreneurs.

    Buy a new car-create new jobs.

    Invest in the market- capital drives growth.

    Pay for your parent’s medical insurance- health care improves.

    Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean- or else.

    Remember, this for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company that is cutting back. And of Course, for those serving in the Armed Forces.

    If we’re going to redistribute wealth, let’s really do it. Instead of trickling out a puny $1000.00 (“vote buy”) economic incentive that is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.

    If we’re going to do an $85 billion bailout, let’s bail out every adult US Citizen 18+!

    As for AIG- liquidate it.

    Sell off its parts.

    Let American General go back to being American General.

    Sell off the real estate.

    Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.

    Here’s my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn’t.

    Sure it’s a crazy idea that can “never work.”

    But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

    How do you spell Economic Boom?

    I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 billion We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in Washington , DC .

    And remember The Birk Plan only really costs $59.5 billion because $25.5 billion is returned instantly to Uncle Sam.

    Birk

    T.J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic

  • You Know !

    I was referencing “the system” as a whole and not “Racism” in and of itself, which I do believe was designed to hold “everybody” else down. Racism to me is only a part of the system which rightfully so is becoming more and more irrelevant in the grand scheme of the way the system exists today. It’s only a matter of time before the person you’ve lied to begins to realize that your lying. All of the tenants of racism were predicated on lies. Such as the black man being 3fths of a man, intellectually inferior and so on and so on. That’s what I hope people start to realize instead of “embracing” those stereotypes. If you take “racism” from the equation, although difficult at times, you begin to see “the system” as it really is and are able to make the system work for you and hold on to what “you” know to be true you can overcome the obstacles that may stand in your way. If something doesn’t work one way, try another and it’s “the system” that allows you to do that. I think it’s in someway a self fulling prophecy to believe that “the system as a whole” was designed to hold you down as opposed to “racism” which is as I said before, in my opinion only “a part” of “the system”.

  • You Know !

    Sorry, that was in response to “STEFANY”.

  • WhatsYoursIsMine-Needs to Shake Things Up a Little

    @nita-

    GIRL! I’ve heard that before about Spitzere knowing about the upcoming financial collapse, and it’s starting to make sense.

    Think about it, Larry Craig is soliciting sex in a restroom, but he’s still allowed to serve. As is Mark Foley. These two men are doing things that are just wrong, wrong, wrong and should be admonished by our country’s most conservative political party. Yet, they weren’t fired.

    BUT Elliot Spitzer, who was governor of the state with our country’s financial powerhouses paying taxes and asking for things left and right. He has sex with a WOMAN who was also of LEGAL AGE, and he’s forced to resign. Forget all the stuff about him using taxpayer dollars, Foley used taxpayer dollars when he was hitting on little boys at work!!!!!!!! He wasn’t buying them candy and sodas with money from his paper route!

  • WakeUp

    Redd

    True. We shall see. In any case, I don’t know how I feel about the responsibility to vote on this bill resting in the hands of the same idiots who felt in necessary to waste time holding hearing on whether or not Roger Clemens was sticking steroid needles in his ass!

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    WakeUp(Check me out!)

    Redd

    True. We shall see. In any case, I don’t know how I feel about the responsibility to vote on this bill resting in the hands of the same idiots who felt in necessary to waste time holding hearing on whether or not Roger Clemens was sticking steroid needles in his ass!

    ———–

    You aint lying about that

  • So easy a caveman can do it

    The hood don’t do shyt for the government but the corporations will. Sad but true.

  • Nita

    GG XO, I read your post. Thank you for the reminder.

    I just called my county clerk office, they transferred me to the Bureau of Elections, spoke to Mario who said it’s true, don’t wear any hats, shirts, pins, carry any pictures or signs with ANY candidates face or slogans, you will be turned away until you put them away. But then you can vote.

    Mario said you have to stay at least 100 feet away from the polling place, if you’re going to do that. He was easy-going about it and said just change your shirts, and you’ll be able to vote.

    I understand the reasoning. Again, thank you for the reminder, GG XO. Everybody, let everybody know.

  • Nita

    Kai, my issue is that the only reason you’re for the bailout is for personal gain… and you didn’t care how that personal gain was obtained.

    That’s all. Not every bank is dishonest. Dance with the devil, the devil will stick you. It’s possible to make money and not be a complete criminal about it.

  • STEFANY

    @ YOU KNOW

    I don’t believe the system is a total and complete failure it has it’s advantages when used properly, but you have to be eudcated or smart enough to know how to make it work for you and those that aren’t get left by the waste side..I think you have to know both sides of the system, you need to know how the system is designed for your failure but know how to get around it..I think people embarace the negative stereotype because of poor education or lack of proper education..I’m not saying the system is completely responsible but they can do a hell of a lot better with our education system.

  • MISS INDEPENDENT

    Well I really have to comment on this since I do work in the mortgage industry but not for any of the companies that had to be bailed out. The owner of our company was smart enough to see when all of this started about a year or so ago and secured about a 260 billion dollar line of credit so he can fund loans for the next 2 years. But anyway the reason the government bailed out those companies is because as much as we all would like to think it wouldn’t affect us if they went out of business, it would, millions of jobs would be lost, because see it’s like a domino effect when the big boys fall eventually so does everything else and eventaully it wouold have been another depression like in the 1920′s. I sure as hell didn’t think my tax dollars should have went on that but once it was explained to me I was like Oh I get it now. Everything in this economy kinda works hand in hand

  • kai (fre and fnm in the high 2′s, time for my LV. There is a light)

    lol @ Nita….come back down to the United States..off your self righteous cloud and make a few thousands so you wont have to get up to go to work next week…

    good nite..

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    YO OBAMA SUPPORTERS….

    SOME BLOGGERS ON THE DRUDGE REPORT ARE SAYING THAT BIDEN WILL STEP DOWN BY OCT 2, BECAUSE OF HEALTH PROBLEMS (OOO KAY)WHICH LEAVES HILLARY AS THE ONLY SENSIBLE RUNNING MATE FOR OBAMA…

    THIS IS NOT A FACT, JUST SPECULATION

    STAY TUNED…

  • Bus a Bus

    Duke!!! We need banks to survive. How are you gonna get a mortgage if the banks dont have no money to lend you? How you gonna get a loan for a car if the banks have no money?

    If the government didn’t do this the unemployment rate would have risen to 25%!!!

    Think before you speak.

  • dubya

    I’ve never heard of a single story where hard work, dedication, and persistence has not paid off. It does not matter where you come from and what you have, if you are determined to do better, you will do better and it should not take money to motivate you to do so.

  • eddiedollars215

    @FOREST, D, AND REDD… NO DOUBT… SEE THE 14TH AMENDMENT… IT DID NOT MAKE SLAVERY ILLEGAL… YOU CAN STILL BECOME A SLAVE VOLUNTARILY … I.E. DEBT SLAVE… GO READ THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE… THEN GO AND READ THE CONSTITUTION… OR CHECK OUT.. AMERICAS SECRET DESTINY

  • dubya

    Can I ask a question without getting ripped apart?

    Can somebody tell me when Obama was going to specifically address the current situation? If McCain hadn’t pulled out of the debates when were we going to find out how serious the problem was.

    Was Obama planning on even going to the Senate to vote on the bailout? Was he even going to address it? What is his stance on this?

    I know Obama has talked about the economy but if McCain hadn’t stepped up and said enough, when was Obama going to make it a priority?

    Only honest answers as I am not trying to bash Obama but trying to get head around his agenda.

    Thanks

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign

    @Eddie

    Im out son, I might peek back in later,

    Good talking with errbody on here today…this could be a good start to a REVOLUTION

  • http://www.myspace.com/twerkteam I hate 50

    SMH

  • Mock Rock Star(I heard there’s drought…)

    I say look out for yourself only…that way U can truly help others

  • memchee

    the right reparation plan for slavery could go a long way in reversing and correcting many of the problems plaguing our community.

    BUT we should not ask for anything without a majority consensus amoungst us and organizing/uniting to make a strong stance/push for what we need, deserve, and are entitled to.

  • DR. TOOTH

    American is starting to reap what it has sown for such a long time. If you think this is bad you havent seen anything yet. The Law of Reciprocity is in full effect. We as black folk need to get closer to God by making sure our lives are right…. The only thing to get folk out of this mess is faith in GOD & JESUS CHRIST-The SOn of GOD, not all of these funny religions that Hollywood says are “cool”.

    A Mind is a terrible thing to waste.

  • DR. TOOTH

    America or Americans….which ever you perfer^

  • WordtotheWise

    @Dubya>>>Obama was the first person to contact McCain yesterday morning to discuss the situation. Much to Obama’s surprise, McCain went on and announced that HE was going to take care of it by bowing out of the debates. Of course, McCain wanted to appear like the hero, when it was actually Obama’s idea in the first place. Personally, I believe they should continue with the debate.

    Now, regarding the subject at hand. I am a firm believer that throwing money at a person or problem doesn’t solve it. Unless the person’s mindset has changed, it’s futile. If there is mismanagement of funds, as is in many of our school systems for example, the money will not trickle down to where it belongs – the students. I can attest to that in my city that has been plagued with school funding. You can throw billions of dollars at people, but if they aren’t equipped to handle it, their lot in life won’t change. We need to take responsibility for what we can do about a situation and stop blaming others and wanting the government to rescue us. JMO.

  • Ghost

    Why would I throw money at Negroes that will waste money on bling, tricked out cars and dumb stuff instead of getting a decent house and living on a budget.

    Stop trying to keep up with the Jerry Jones of the world. Stop bullying black boys to be rappers, thugs or jailbirds. We need doctors, teachers, lawyers and folks that come back to the hood and help. Hood negroes, LET FOLKS HELP YOU!

  • nunya bizness

    Call your representative! Don’t type on a website and complain. Get active!

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    I WILL KEEP THIS SHORT AND TO THE POINT! PEOPLE IN THE “HOOD” DO NOT DESERVE FREE HANDOUTS, PERIOD! I HAVE GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY WHO WERE RAISED IN EXTREME POVERTY AND I DIDN’T WANT TO FOLLOW THAT PARTICULAR LIFESTYLE PATTERN. PEOPLE IN THE HOOD GENERALLY ARE HEALTHY PEOPLE WHO SIMPLY REMAIN THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY AND ARE CONTENT RECEIVING WHATEVER HANDOUTS THE GOVERNMENT WILL PROVIDE. SMILE

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    @ITS6AM

    SADLY THE PICTURE THEY DECIDED TO USE IS THE STEREOTYPICAL BLACK MALE IN AMERICA!

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    IT IS ALSO A SHAME THAT MANY PEOPLE GO TO EMPLOYMENT INTERVIEWS DRESSED EXACTLY LIKE THIS AND WHEN THEY ARE NOT HIRED INTO THE POSITION THEY SCREAM, “DAWG, THOSE MUTHAFUCAS IS RACIST FOR NOT HIRING ME!”

  • real

    Here is a club,[__”interracialchatting.com”__]it is a dating service for whites and blacks to find their interracial love.Sign up for free,maybe you can find your girl there.

  • Shay

    It only shows that the government and economy is catered towards big business. Socialism is bad unless it’s to bail out a business or in this case Wall St.

    This is a complicated issue and something has to be done. They knew this was going to happen because this has been a circular issue. Giving loans to people who shouldn’t have them then in turn banks are selling loans in lots on the market. Lehman invested heavily in these loans which is why they went bankrupt.

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    BASIC MATH FOLKS, IF A FAMILY IS BRINGING HOME $3,000 A MONTH THE BANK SHOULD NOT QUALIFY THEM FOR A LOAN ON A MORTGAGE PAYMENT OF $1,500. AT THE SAME TIME A FAMILY SHOULD KNOW THEIR LIMITATIONS AND BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO KNOW IF THEY ARE ONLY MAKING THAT TYPE OF INCOME THEY SHOULD NOT BE SHOPPING FOR A HOME IN THE GATED COMMUNITY. BOTH PARTIES ARE TO BLAME! AMERICANS WANT TO FEEL POWERFUL IN THE SUV AND LARGE HOME, BUT YET MANY HAVE NOTHING IN THEIR CHECKING ACCOUNT, LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS SITE! SMILE

  • Redd Tony aka Earth Sign “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.

    BLACK CONSERVATIVE(Check me out!)

    BASIC MATH FOLKS, IF A FAMILY IS BRINGING HOME $3,000 A MONTH THE BANK SHOULD NOT QUALIFY THEM FOR A LOAN ON A MORTGAGE PAYMENT OF $1,500. AT THE SAME TIME A FAMILY SHOULD KNOW THEIR LIMITATIONS AND BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO KNOW IF THEY ARE ONLY MAKING THAT TYPE OF INCOME THEY SHOULD NOT BE SHOPPING FOR A HOME IN THE GATED COMMUNITY. BOTH PARTIES ARE TO BLAME! AMERICANS WANT TO FEEL POWERFUL IN THE SUV AND LARGE HOME, BUT YET MANY HAVE NOTHING IN THEIR CHECKING ACCOUNT, LIKE A MAJORITY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS SITE! SMILE

    _____________________

    The underwriters allowed these loans to be approved. The underwriter of a loan has the final say so.. therefore I blame thr brunt of the responsibility against the financial institution

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    REDD

    WHY DO YOU NOT PLACE EQUAL BLAME ON BOTH PARTIES??

    YOU ARE CERTAINLY A SMART BROTHER AND KNOW IF YOU WORK IN A WAREHOUSE DRIVING A FORKLIFT PER SE YOU SHOULD NOT BE REALISTICALLY DRIVING A HUMMER OR BENZ. SAME CONCEPT MY BROTHER, JUST BECAUSE THE SALESMAN GIVES YOU THE BAIT DOESN’T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SWALLOW THE HOOK. CONSUMER RESPONSIBILITY MY BROTHER!

  • mya

    umm … i never met my father and my mother’s crazy … still i ain’t never needed the govt to support me … get off the welfare people and do for you

  • mya

    umm … i never met my father and my mother’s crazy … still i ain’t never needed the govt to support me … get off the welfare people and do for you

  • Flipper Purefoy

    Hate to bust you self-righteous idiots bubble but this economic crisis solely falls on the shouders of the mortgage lenders and banks for their bate and switch three year teaser rates…And when you add on the doctoring of unqualified applicants wage earnings and other duplicitous practices, suchas allowing real estate speculators and appraisers to elevate the property values of houses by 40 to 60% over it’s actual market value, thus leading to this collapse. I can’t fault most of the consumers for pursuing the american dream of owning their own property, and lets’ be honest, how many would pass up the chance to apply for a zero down teaser (three year fix) rate with the promise that before your three year fix is up, you can refinance said loan to keep their monthly mortgage payments affordable? Ultimately, what happened was a combination of greed and stupidity run amok. Hopefully in the long run this will force Wall Street and the real estate market into a major correction.

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    ANY PERSON WITH A DECENT EDUCATION SHOULD DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH PRIOR TO ENTERING INTO A MORTGAGE AND KNOWING THE CONCEPT OF A BALLOON RATE IS ESSENTIAL! AS A MAN WHO HAS ACHIEVED RESPECTABLE LEVELS OF SUCCESS AT A YOUNG AGE AND DONT FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH. YES THE THOUGHT OF THE AMERICAN DREAM IS REAL, BUT IN THE END IF YOU HAVE A AVERAGE TO LOW INCOME YOU SHOULD NOT BE LIVING IN A 2,500 SQ FT. HOME. THAT IS A FACT!

  • BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    APOLOGIZE FOR THE TYPOS!

  • LAUGHNYOFACE

    And chico, if anything happens to that BANK-MONEY, eee pobrecito !!!!!!

    YOU LOSE….YOU LOSE !!!!!

    KANYE WEST: LOVE LOCKDOWN !!!!!!!!!!! GO FASTER !!!!!!!!!!!!! FASTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TURN IT UP SOME MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!

    CONGRADS….YOU HACKED INTO MY YAHOO ACCOUNT THAT I OPENED IN 2003 OR WAS IT 2004. SO THAT MEANS YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IS UMMMMMMM TRUE. TELL EM’ NO TELL EM’ YOU SEEN THE PICTURES. EMAILS. YOU HEARD THE PHONE CALLS. YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. WHATS MY PASSPORT NUMBER. WHATS MY DRIVERS LICENSE? TELL EM ABOUT MY BANK STATEMENTS……LAUGH N YO FACE !!!

    IM GOING TO HEAVEN.

    HELLO, STAR

    MR. STAR LIKE RINGGOLD.

  • http://www.BrownskinBeauties.com BrownSkinBeauty

    They don’t give a dam about the hood!!!!!!!!!!

  • Samantha

    The main reason is because black folks as a hole won’t get out and vote. We always want to make it about race and that’s not true. When a group of people are not seen as a comodity then they get ignored. Look at the Jewish people they have always come together as a political power and if they are not satisfied with you then they will vote your behind out of office so politicans pay attention to them and their needs. The hispanic population especally Cuban is well on its way to being the next major political group for the candidates to cater to because they get out and vote. They can make or break a candidate. My Black folks need to get off this race thing, and start participating in their basic right to vote then we will see a shift in how Politicans treat us and our neighborhoods.

    PLEASE REGISTER AND VOTE NOV 4

  • Samantha

    Last but not least how about stop having a bunch of babies you can’t afford to take care of. Thats a start.

  • STL FINEST

    Everytime its a new president, from a new Party, companies start declaring bankruptcy. They,re taking their money and running. They know its going to be new laws and their shady book keeping is going to be audited by the new Party. Then things like this 700 BILLION dollar handout is to compensate for all the money they have stolen. Now the general employees are left out in the cold, 401k losing money, and held until audits are complete and funding is done. Now this whole process takes a good 5-7 years due to the bankruptcy laws and the new president only has a year or so to correct this. Which during that time he has to have laws approved by the House. Which bought time the laws are near approval its time for another presidential race, and everyones attention is focused on that instead of the past 7-8 years, and the new laws are either forgotten, put to the wasteside, are just been approved. After all that, here comes a new president, from a new Party ready to steal and f**k up everything again. That’s the cycle of America. God Please bless us!

  • “Why can’t the government push $200 billion towards better schools, parental education support, and technology in the hood? Why are these greedy corporate mofo’s getting 700 billion when all the hood gets is some food stamps and an ebt card?”

    Why should they? It’s not their fault people in the ghetto live the way they do, They are capable of filling out job applications and doing something with their lives. If you live in the ghetto, and it is so terrible, DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING THE HELL OUTTA THERE. Geez. Nobody gets a handout. There are college grants, scholarships and so many other programs that help. People are just lazy and expect things to just happen. And FYI if you live in the ghetto and get food stamps I wouldnt complain, You should be grateful. I have NO sympathy for people in the ghetto because like I said, everyone is capable of making their situation better.

  • MS. P.R.O

    because there has not been anybody running America with another AGENDA on their mind…….but just wait til NOVEMBER……WE about to stick a fork in all of this crap…..YES, WE CAN!!!!

  • Aaliyah#1fan_RIP

    Were taking 700 billion of the u.s money to help wall street. When theres people all over the world starving and dieing from aids no schooling no notebooks. take 50 billion and end poverty all over the world. thats the problem with this president that we have he has no clue what he is doing in office do we really want something like this to occur to our people again. Thats why we as americans we need to get out there and vote so we can see change within our country.

  • tragicallycute

    I know why they aint’ sharing……because the government is slowly trying to take over the world. Believe me….First of all, in the Presidental Address the other night, Bush claims the reason America is in debt is because of mortgages, and bank loans the “people” took out and couldn’t afford to pay back. Ummm…..has anyone seen the movie “ZEITGEIST”??? Yeah, well if you haven’t, you should….if you’re religious, skip part one…..but part two and part three are the most crucial for understanding what the government is trying to do to its civilians. They aren’t going to pay into the things that could make America better….they won’t make money off of that. But they sure do like the war….i wonder how much money the banks make off of all the millions of people that have been killed by the war…..?

  • tragicallycute

    And ConnaZ….i respect your opinion and all…but regardless of what they do with this 700 billion, America will still end up in a depression…..everytime the government gets a loan from the Bank of America (which is where they got the money…thats where they always get it)….they have to pay back the loan PLUS interest. SO no matter how much they try to convince everyone that they are “fixing” the problem……they aren’t exactly “fixing” it for the long haul….they are just “temporaily bandaging” the situation until the next loan….

  • Caring

    Anyone who understands finance will realize this bailout is a necessary evil! Wall Street and Main Street are connected. The banks that give credit to farmers, small businesses and personal loans and finances are invested in Wall Street so if those banks do not survive because Wall Street fails we will not be able to get credit ANYWHERE! It’s a tough deal but the bailout is a necessity!

  • Me

    It’s the fall of Babylon all over again. Get ready people. The only thing we can do is get right with God. The illuminati is alive and well.

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