OBAMA ’08!!!!!!!! MY WHOLE FAM IS REGISTERED THIS TIME! MCSAME IS OUTTA HERE!!!!

LMAO @ THE PIC!!!!

I bet Obama really wants to hit him…I do…

I concur. Obama is so poised and calmed. He’s my hero

I was bored with the debate last night but I agree, McCain didn’t get that game-changer and so that is why Obama won. Personally I want Obama and Biden to get just a smidge more fiery!!

That pic is the best!!!!!

im throwing a “my president is black party” ! following the nov 4 elections. everybody gets in free that gives a fist bump at the front door.

What got me was after the debate….Barack and Michelle were shaking hands,taking pics and talking to the people…Meanwhile, McCain was nowhere to be found…He and Cindy had left…He was so presidential talking to the people who stayed behind and believe me that plays a part in peoples minds…I can’t wait to vote for him….

Yes We Can!!!!!

Obama 08

This picture is very fitting!! LMAO I bet Barack wanted to bust McCain right in his dentures for calling him “that one” during the debate!!

Did anyone notice how when Barack went to shake McCain’s hand at the end of the debate he pushed Cindy ahead of him so that she would be forced to shake Barack’s hand in his steed? He’s one nasty SOB….and I can’t wait for him to lose on Nov 4th!

Obama-Biden 08!!

Dang right! You go, BO

A little cartoonish side commentary:

Obama: Damn, I just wanna clock the hell outta this old crypt keeper.

McCain: Heh heh, dis boy thaynks he gonna win — my wife can buy this sh*t!

It doesn’t matter if its boring, Obama won. It’s exciting that we have a possibility of having a black president and if you can’t truly appreciate that you are WAY too young to remember how it was like.

@ Day

Sorry, I was thinking the same thing!

yesss we can!!!!

VOTE PEOPLE VOTE

Mccain is a condescending, disrespectful cunt who continues to shoot himself in the foot. forget the issues, forget the race. he can’t respect Barack as a man enough to look him in the eye or shake his hand? SMH.

OBAMA ’08

he was what a president should be, McSame was all over the floor and standing while Obama was speaking, i thought that didn’t look good. I just pray we win this. i’m not sure of the undecided voters and the independents and how they’ll impact the election. . . but i know i must think positive.

It hard for some white people to believe that a black man has the Intelligents to lead this country!! Go Obama! and Go black the CNN Poll shows that 95% of african american are for Obama only 2% for McCain I am praying for the 2% BLACK people but you have the right to vote for who you want! I am happy to be a black man in america!!!

bush f*cked up so bad even rednecks are like im voting fer dat colored fellar.

A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!!!!

BARACK OBAMA IS A WINNER!!!

“YES WE WILL”!!!

@ B’More

Mccain is a condescending, disrespectful cunt who continues to shoot himself in the foot. forget the issues, forget the race. he can’t respect Barack as a man enough to look him in the eye or shake his hand? SMH.

OBAMA ‘08

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I got that vibe too. I really believe one day McCain is gonna slip up and call BO the ‘N’ word.

McCain needed a knockout last night.Did’nt/could’nt do it.Wonder if he has some kinda’”October Surprise” hanging out there.Wonder if Obama does.

I was getting tired of hearing McCain say “my friends” over and over again!!!!!!

What got me was after the debate….Barack and Michelle were shaking hands,taking pics and talking to the people…Meanwhile, McCain was nowhere to be found…He and Cindy had left…He was so presidential talking to the people who stayed behind and believe me that plays a part in peoples minds…I can’t wait to vote for him….

Yes We Can!!!!!

Obama 08

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I saw that too and I was like where the hell is John. Barack was taking pictures and signing autographs and whatnot. I was very, very impressed. Michelle looked so AWWWW adorable. But really she was very professional and very First Lady-ish. So proud of them even though I was still bored with the debate.

And did anyone notice how Cindy McCain just looked distressed during most of the debate, whereas Michelle appeared to be taking it all in and smiling. It was even evident in their supporters, Megan McCain smiled more than her mom, but she too looked distraught. Claire McCaskill mirrored Michelle: she was also thinking, and also smiling.

@trs1- “This picture is very fitting!! LMAO I bet Barack wanted to bust McCain right in his dentures for calling him “that one” during the debate!!

Did anyone notice how when Barack went to shake McCain’s hand at the end of the debate he pushed Cindy ahead of him so that she would be forced to shake Barack’s hand in his steed? He’s one nasty SOB….and I can’t wait for him to lose on Nov 4th!

Obama-Biden 08!!”

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Ditto…

@ B’More

“Mccain is a condescending, disrespectful crypt keeper, sedative needing, jello eating, racist old punk who continues to shoot himself in the foot. forget the issues, forget the race. he can’t respect Barack as a man enough to look him in the eye or shake his hand? SMH.”

OBAMA ‘08

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I changed some of your post. But yeah, I feel EXACTLY the same way. I was so angry when McLame and Cindy McLoser acted up. But I am glad that they did on camera, for the whole world to see..He needs to retire and enroll in a geriatric senior center….typical WTP Trash….

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!

Wednesday, October 08

Race (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread

Wisconsin Rasmussen Obama 54, McCain 44 Obama +10

National Gallup Tracking Obama 52, McCain 41 Obama +11

National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6

National Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2

National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 45, McCain 44 Obama +1

Pennsylvania Morning Call Tracking Obama 50, McCain 38 Obama +12

National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 49, McCain 45 Obama +4

National Ipsos/McClatchy Obama 47, McCain 40 Obama +7

New Jersey Fairleigh Dickinson Obama 50, McCain 37 Obama +13

Did anyone hear when that racist fool called Obama “that one”. Just disrespectful wit his old ass!

McCain is an old coot. He is very disrespectful. He lacks the proper decorum to be president. He can not behave civil and belittlse obama at every turn.

His condescending attitude gives me the impression he believes Barack is somehow inferior to him. I can’t wait until he loses.

knock em ‘out the box b!

AHHH,

Obama looks like he could give him a nice left hook…help straighten out that face.

GO’N Senator Obama…Go’n

TRS, is that you, girl?

Hey WhatsYoursIsMine, Ms. Sugar Walls! I feel like this is a political sistas reunion, lol.

And, yes, I noted the very tense interaction between McCain and Obama during and after the debate. Michelle didn’t even attempt to greet either one of the McCains. I loved how she and Barack worked the room after McCain left. It said a lot.

BARACK SLICED UP THE OLD MAN LIKE A BLOCK OF MOLDY SWISS CHEESE!!!

“YES WE WILL”!!!

Ms SW,

Now if we can only get to the polls with those numbers…

I have a strange feeling them SUCKAHS gonna throw a monkeywrench in the ring…I don’t trust they asses!!!

McLame on CNN still talkin’ SMACK!!

and he wii continue to loose

Mccain needs to except reality like Hillary did…….YOU HAVE LOST THE RACE TO A BLACK MAN!!!!!!

Did anybody notice the way Barack was posin when McCain was talking?

@ Sydney

Hey girl!!! Long time no see!!! How have you been? Barack MURDERED McCain last night in the debate! I am loving it!!

Must…….not…….punch geezer…..Must…..not …..punch geezer……Must shake Crypt Keeper’s hand….take picture….then vomit…….

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FABULOUS!!!

That pic looks like an aide working in a nursing home

@trs

Hey, girl!! *waving excitedly* Yes, I’m loving this, too. But what I don’t love is race-baiting/hockey mom/cheerleader pitbull Palin. . .What do you think about the tone of the campaign now?

I’m glad you’re back.

Why should he be any different…

Sarah Palin lost the pagent to a black woman…it all seems fitting for McLame to lose to a black man…

EVEN THOUGH it isn’t really about his race…it’s about his ability to lead…and OBAMA is the best leader now…even Stevie Wonder can see that

AP: McCain Linked to Iran-Contra, ‘Nazi Collaborators,’ and ‘Right-Wing Death Squads’

Kyle Drennen

News Busters

October 7, 2008

On Tuesday, an Associated Press article featured on MSNBC.com and briefly as a top headline on the popular internet homepage MSN.com was titled: “McCain linked to group in Iran-Contra case.” The subtitle read: “Organization had ties to former Nazi collaborators, right-wing death squads.” The article attacked a group founded by retired U.S. General John Singlaub: “The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.”

The AP appears to be getting its story tips from the Obama campaign, as Boston Globe deputy national political editor, Foon Rhee, reported: “The Obama camp today is sending around reports on Singlaub, founder of the US Council for World Freedom, which was involved in the Iran-Contra scandal during the mid-1980s and was criticized for supposed links to Nazi collaborators and right-wing death squads in Central America.” The AP article justified reporting on the tenuous McCain connection by explaining: “McCain’s ties are facing renewed scrutiny after his campaign criticized Barack Obama for his link to a former radical who engaged in violent acts 40 years ago.”

In the article, General Singlaub is quoted and suggested that McCain had little or no involvement in the organization: “We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn’t left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated. I don’t recall talking to McCain at all on the work of the group.” Despite that explanation, the AP still thought it appropriate to suggest an equivalence between McCain’s ties to such an organization and Obama’s ties to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers: “The renewed attention over McCain’s association with Singlaub’s group comes as McCain’s campaign steps up criticism of Obama’s dealings with William Ayers, a college professor who co-founded the Weather Underground and years later worked on education reform in Chicago alongside Obama.”

Somehow, Somewhere we have just lost 2 TRILLION dollars and AIG is partying on the 85 BILLION those sucker got…

UGHHHHHHHH!!!

Talk about being RAPED!!!

I honestly think most of the members of the “town hall” were more excited about seeing Barack. I noticed their cameras followed where he was going more than McCain, and honestly, it could be because McCain was on the move.

I almost typed on the make, my bad!

I was getting tired of hearing McCain say “my friends” over and over again!!!!!!

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OMG! so was I, he is no “friend” of mine!!

I love that pic PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You look like Muhammad Ali about to give someone the knockout blow. Break is face, lol….

There is no Barack will be president cause Barack is the 1st President of color of the United States. It’s too obvious and the writing is on the wall!!!!

I know Daywalker…what was I thinking…

You know McCain is wondering right now why he has that moron sara palin on his ticket. She is an albatros – or at least she is into shooting a albatros

I think I’ve been so appalled so much during this campaign that I can’t even react to stuff like this anymore. . .

From The Huffington Post:

For the second time in three days, the speaker at a McCain campaign rally used Barack Obama’s middle name “Hussein” in a demeaning fashion to ignite the crowd.

Speaking in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Bill Platt, the GOP chair of Lehigh County, twice referred to “Barack Hussein Obama” minutes before John McCain and Sarah Palin were set to take the stage.

On Monday, a local Florida sheriff preceded Palin’s speech by declaring: “On Nov. 4, let’s leave Barack Hussein Obama wondering what happened.”

Between “Joe Six Pack”, “That One”, & “My Friends”…

Where are we…in a damn salon?

SMDH!

OH…and don’t let me forget all the WINKING!!!!

WTFWT?

**********McCain Touts His Own Ayers Connection*************

McCain Trumpets Endorsement From Figure Of Foundation That Established Ayers Board

October 8, 2008 11:55 AM

www(dot)huffingtonpost(dot)com/2008/10/08/mccains-trumpets-endorsem_n_132954(dot)html

On Wednesday morning, John McCain’s campaign released a list of 100 former ambassadors endorsing the GOP presidential nominee.

Second on the list, though her name is misspelled, is Leonore Annenberg, currently the president and chairman of the Annenberg Foundation and widow of ambassador and philanthropist Walter Annenberg. Ms. Annenberg was herself the “chief of protocol” at the State Department under President Reagan.

If the last name sounds familiar, it’s because it also graces the name of the Chicago education board where Barack Obama and William Ayers sat in the room six times together.

In recent days, the McCain-Palin ticket (and particularly Palin) has faulted Obama for having served on that board with Ayers, who was a founding member of the radical 60’s Weather Underground group when Obama was in grade school.

Since then, however, Ayers has been rehabilitated in Chicago society, carving out a niche in education circles. As a former Republican representative in Illinois told NPR on Monday, smearing Obama for his board association with Ayers is “nonsensical.”

“It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier … It’s ridiculous,” Republican Rep. Diana Nelson said. “There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It’s nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It’s so silly.”

And while it might be equally silly to accuse one of McCain’s latest surrogates for managing the national foundation that provided nearly $50 million to the board that included Obama and Ayers, it seems like a question the McCain camp might have to engage anyway if it wants to keep flagging the issue.

Separate calls to the Pennsylvania and California offices of the Annenberg Foundation were not immediately returned Wendesday morning.

@ Sydney

*Waving back*

Girl I can not STAND that Palin woman. If I had the chance (and I knew that I could avoid catching a charge) I would slap the $hit out of her…I mean not just a regular ole slap…one of those JUICY slaps where you take a running start to get some momentum behind that palm, run right up on them, and then SLAP THEM TO THE GROUND. LOL

The campaign took a nasty turn when Palin drudged up all that old BS about Ayers…she need not throw stones from a glass house! She supported Alaska’s succession from the US…and the leader of that organization has gone on record stating that he “hates America.” Now since we’re discussing “associations,” is she also guilty by “association?” Yet this fact is not being discussed in the media. I am tired of the Ayers BS!!!

Don’t even get me started on how bad McCain’s body language was last night. His disdain for Obama is clear, so I can’t wait until he gets served on Nov 4th!!

What did you think of the debate?

@Afiya-

Yeah, Joe Six Pack is getting on my nerves. What about “Harry Hardworker” or “Mary Middleclass” or “Sunny Singlefather”…

You know McCain is wondering right now why he has that moron sara palin on his ticket. She is an albatros – or at least she is into shooting a albatros

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That stupid, racist hoe needs to sit her dumbass back down in Alaska

@trs-

Girl I can not STAND that Palin woman. If I had the chance (and I knew that I could avoid catching a charge) I would slap the $hit out of her…I mean not just a regular ole slap…one of those JUICY slaps where you take a running start to get some momentum behind that palm, run right up on them, and then SLAP THEM TO THE GROUND. LOL

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OMG! I think I just wet myself laughing……

Phrases I never want to hear again after Nov. 4:

My friends

Team of mavericks

Joe Six Pack

Palling around with terrorists

Reform Washington

Hockey mom

Pitbull with lipstick

Pig with lipstick

Feel free to add on

Hey Sydney, how r u?

Joe Biden also agrees with u. Biden addressed that recently, although in a somewhat confused manner. He said along the lines of “they’re saying his middle name like it’s some kind of epitaph. (he meant epithet)….Barack is going 2 turn 2 me 4 advice, not that other guy. (reffering 2 Ayers)

Yep, they’re a shiesty bunch all right.

Homeschooling Banned in California as State Turns Parents Into Criminals for Teaching Their Own Children

David Gutierrez

Natural News

September 23, 2008

A California appeals court has ruled that homeschooling of children is illegal unless their parents have teaching credentials from the state.

“California is now on the path to being the only state to deny the vast majority of homeschooling parents their fundamental right to teach their own children at home,” said Michael Smith, president of the Home School Legal Defense Association.

The court overturned a lower court’s finding that homeschooling did not constitute a violation of child welfare laws.

“California courts have held that … parents do not have a constitutional right to homeschool their children,” Justice H. Walter Croskey said.

The decision stunned parents of the state’s roughly 166,000 homeschooled children. While the court claimed that it was merely clarifying an existing law and not making a new one, the decision leaves the parents of homeschooled children at risk of arrest and criminal prosecution.

“At first, there was a sense of, ‘No way,’ ” homeschool parent Loren Mavromati said. “Then there was a little bit of fear. I think it has moved now into indignation.”

Parents’ reasons for homeschooling their children range from religious beliefs to dissatisfaction with the education received at public or private schools. But according to the court, all California children between the ages of 6 and 18 must attend either a full-time public or private school or be taught by a tutor credentialed for their specific grade level.

“A primary purpose of the educational system is to train school children in good citizenship, patriotism and loyalty to the state and the nation,” Croskey wrote.

California’s largest teachers union welcomed the decision as did the Children’s Law Center of Los Angeles.

According to the law center’s executive director, Leslie Heimov, children should not be educated at home, because they need to be “in a place daily where they would be observed by people who had a duty to ensure their ongoing safety.”

And has anyone seen the online videos of the Palin and McCain rallies where people are calling Obama a “terrorist”? The one that irks me is where the guy shouts “kill him”. Too bad you can’t see the offender’s face.

I truly do not want to see anything happen to either candidate, but McCain’s campaign has gone too far.

What is the purpose of copying and pasting an entire news article? Don’t you people know how to post LINKS??

Isn’t there video of Sara Palin being exorcised by a African witch doctor?

…..and I’m digging the heck outta Barack’s fist position!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That’s right… drop ‘em like he’s Kimbo Slice, Barack!

After all, if they can call 4 an assassination at Failin’s Florida rally, then this is a fair response!

@trs

“one of those JUICY slaps where you take a running start to get some momentum behind that palm, run right up on them, and then SLAP THEM TO THE GROUND.”

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LOL!!!

*composing myself*

Girl, the debate wasn’t as fiery as I expected, but, you’re right, there was clear contempt displayed by McCain, and he looked ancient and weird pacing around the stage. But Obama came out on top in the end, and that’s what matters.

And about Palin — did you see Keith Olbermann’s Special Comment on her this week? It was almost as good as the one he had for Hillary months ago, IMHO.

Hey HF!

@WhatsYoursIsMine

The NY Times today called McCain’s campaign “appalling” in an editorial.

Yes, this campaign is out of control, and dangerous. I couldn’t believe someone called one of the black news crew members a racial slur and told him, “Sit down, boy,” at one of the rallies.

Barak Obama proved last night that he has what it takes to be president. He was cool and collected, he actually seemed interested in people in the audience. Notice how every ran to get their pictures taken with him.

The Conservative Republicans think it’s their God-given right to be in control of everything including your day-to-day life. I am sick of the GOP with this fear mongering and nasty attacks. Saying Obama is palling around with terrorists is down right low and dangerous. You basically are accusing him of committing a major crime against this country, which couldn’t be further from the truth. If I was a Republican, I would be angry with my own party. This is not how so-called Christians behave.

Obama is doing everything correctly by taking the high road. In the end, he will survive with his integrity in tact and he will have the full support of all Americans, which is exactly what we need right now.

What is the purpose of copying and pasting an entire news article? Don’t you people know how to post LINKS??

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You always comment about that but never offer anything productive to the conversation. If Eddie Dollars wants you to know that then fine. Ignore his post if you aren’t with it. Matter of fact, you call yourself Encyclopedia but you are dumber than a box of rocks. Sit your azz down somewhere with all your negativity.

(CNN) – The New York Times issued a renewed scolding of John McCain in a sharply-worded editorial Wednesday morning, the latest salvo in the ongoing back-and-forth between the paper of record and the Arizona senator’s White House bid.

“Senator John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin have been running one of the most appalling campaigns we can remember,” the Tuesday editorial said. “They have gone far beyond the usual fare of quotes taken out of context and distortions of an opponent’s record — into the dark territory of race-baiting and xenophobia. Senator Barack Obama has taken some cheap shots at Mr. McCain, but there is no comparison.”

Those comments come two weeks after senior McCain advisors derided the New York Times, calling the news outlet “an Obama advocacy organization” in response to an article in the paper that reported McCain campaign manager Rick Davis was still profiting from failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

The Times, McCain spokesman Michael Goldfarb said then, “obscures its true intentions — to undermine the candidacy of John McCain and boost the candidacy of Barack Obama — under the cloak of objective journalism.”

Top McCain adviser Steve Schmidt also weighed in on the paper that endorsed McCain’s primary bid, saying it is “150 percent in the tank” for Obama — a statement that drew a defiant response from managing editor Bill Keller, who said the paper is “is committed to covering the candidates fully, fairly and aggressively.”

The McCain campaign appeared to make its peace with the paper over the weekend, when aides to the Arizona senator and Palin herself both highlighted a Times story that investigated the relationship between Obama and 1960′s radical William Ayers. That article, published October 3, concluded Obama has played down the extent of his relationship with the Weather Underground founder, but concludes the two “do not appear to have been close.”

But in its blistering editorial Wednesday, the paper’s editors criticized the campaign and the Alaska governor for suggesting Obama is “palling around with terrorists,” saying that Palin is implying that “Mr. Obama is right now a close friend of Mr. Ayers — and sympathetic to the violent overthrow of the government.”

“We certainly expected better from Mr. McCain, who once showed withering contempt for win-at-any-cost politics,” the editorial says.

LMAO @ I’m Just Me

Hey Sydney!

Man I have to address this s@#t. First off, this fossil(McCain) referred to Senator Obama as “that one right there.” What type of racist s@#t is that?! I guess the more desperate he gets, the more his true racist a@@ colors come out. Second, this fossil keeps referring to Ronald Wilson Reagan (666) like he is someone to look up to; and third, I wish the fossil would stop referring to everyone as “my friends.” That is some old bulls#@t. Barack Obama is beating his a@@ so bad that the fossil can’t answer any questions that he is asked. Did you see when he greeted the ex-military guy in the crowd!!! He only had 1 minute to answer the question asked, but took 30 seconds to greet some military dude!!! Wutadumazz!!!!

@ I’m Just Me- Buffalo Bills (4-1) WE GOT THE CHARGERS ON THE 19th!!!!

Thanks for the posts, i sometimes don’t feel like clicking links, i can just read it here

Hey Sydney!!

How are you??

Hey Slide, what’s up!

“My friends….” Y’all know how when u pick up a toddler under both armpits how their shoudlers sometimes scrunch together a little?

Did u notice the Mummy ALWAYS look like that… Or is his suit 2 small 4 him? Everytime he raises his arms he looks like a little kid being piccked up!

Seriously though!

I don’t even know where to begin…. Obama was way better last night, more composed, professsional, and respectful… I wanted to punch the F*ck outta McCain always talkin down to Obama.. couldn’t leave Obama’s name outta his mouth, seemed as tho he is focusing more on insulting Obama than gettn his points across and thats prolly why he sucked both times…

*still laughing*

Hey AzzedineAliaFan!

@ Azzedine

No problem. I think we need to share this knowledge in any way or context that we can. People who aren’t with it can keep themselves in the bottom of the barrel.

Hey, I’m Just Me! Girl, you are too much!

@ HF… i noticed his ass not only has crocodile arms, but a 50 cent jaw lol… and i dont even know what to say bout his walk… *SMH*

@i’m just me –

Amen, it’s just freakin’ ridiculous the levels the repubs. will go to. Did you see the after-debate on CNN? Soledad had interviewed about 25 or 30 undecided voters, and she asked, how many for McCain? 14 raised their hands and then she asked how many for Obama and 11 raised their hands? I was too through, after that condesending tone and poor performance by McCain, those white folks still are leanign towards him!! That scares the shyt out of me! This man has shown he has no compassion or decency time and time again but whitey will rather vote for a man without integrity than a well versed black man!!

FallinPoet, that’s called a ‘waddle.’

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

@Sydney what’s shakin? i know this freakin dirty politics is getting on my nerves!!

@ Azzedine… it was actually 10 for McCain and 12 for Obama and i guess 3 were undecided.. it was 25 ppl.

Aw, HF, I think McCain’s arms look like that because of the injuries he incurred as a POW. . .

On a serious note, I’m reading more online concerns about his health. He’s not looking too good, IMHO. . .

OBAMA! OBAMA!! OBAMA!!!!!!!

@Fallin Poet, thanks, i am not good in math and memory obviously (LOL).

October 8, 2008

GLENDALE — A motorcyclist was killed this morning along a major freeway connector road in a possible gang-related shooting, authorities said.

A group of motorcyclists were traveling along the connector road linking the eastbound Foothill (210) Freeway to the southbound Glendale (2) Freeway around 2 a.m. when the man was shot, said Sgt. Tom Lorenz of the Glendale Police Department.

Firefighters and California Highway Patrol officers at the scene discovered the motorcycle in bushes alongside the road and its deceased rider nearby.

Lorenz said the victim is associated with the Mongols Motorcycle Club — a motorcycle gang founded in Montebello in the 1970s.

“We don’t know if, in fact, the gang affiliation has anything to do with the situation,” Lorenz said.

Other members who were riding with the victim at the time of the shooting were cooperating with police.

Police said they know the victim’s identity, however, they were not releasing that information at this time.

The connector roads linking the 210 and 2 freeways were shut down for much of the morning commute, along with the Foothill Boulevard onramp to the southbound 2, causing traffic backlog on Verdugo Boulevard.

The roads were expected to reopen once the coroner’s office, which arrived around 9:30 a.m., removed the victim’s body.

The northbound 2 Freeway was closed at Mountain Street until 5:30 a.m., when the lanes were reopened, said CHP Officer Anthony Martin.

No arrests have been reported.

@ What’s Yours Is Mine

Girl I meant that!!! I truly did! LOL

Hey Syd, if what u say is true then from 1 vet 2 another, I’d like 2 thank John McCain 4 his service 2 this country. I know what it’s like…

As a staunch critic of his increasingly racist campaign… he looks like a 2-year old being picked up!

October 7, 2008

LONG BEACH — A Long Beach woman accused of driving her teenage son and his friends to confront a rival gang has been convicted of second degree murder.

Eva Daley was charged with first-degree murder but the jury opted for the lesser conviction after deliberating for more than two days.

The 31-year old mother of three faces 15 years to life in prison when she is sentenced Nov. 4.

Daley was convicted in the murder of 13-year old Jose “Bobby” Cano, who was stabbed to death in June 2007 near a Long Beach skate park.

According to prosecutors, Daley helped plot a hit on Cano, drove the boys to the park to carry out the attack and help them flee.

Daley’s co-defendant Herbierto Garcia – the 17-year-old accused of stabbing the victim – was also convicted of second degree murder.

Prosecutors say the victim was targeted because their gang, the Latin Thugs or LT, had disrespected Daley and her son, a member of Los Marijuana Smokers, or LMS, earlier that day.

Daley’s son, Mauricio Rivera, and four other youths pleaded guilty to manslaughter and were sentenced as juveniles.

mccain is lame. mccain is an a** wipe .VOTE 4 OBAMA

@ Sydney

Girl I did not see that but I would be very interested in doing so! She has a LOT Of skeletons in her closet that everyone wants to look over because she’s a pretty face!!!

Yeah McCain was getting a well deserved beat down and he couldn’t keep his cool. He looked like he was about to wet himself. Depends anyone?

John McCain uttered two words that could turn out to be the only ones people remember from Tuesday night’s presidential debate: That one.

But what those words meant is being spun in many different ways.

Halfway through the town-hall-style debate, McCain, discussing a bill before the Senate in 2005, said:

“There was an energy bill on the floor of the Senate loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies, and it was sponsored by Bush and Cheney,”he said, turning the tables on the Obama camp’s continuous attempts to link the Republican candidate to the unpopular president and vice president.

“You know who voted for it? You might never know. That one,” he said, pointing to Obama, who was sitting on a stool several feet away. “You know who voted against it? Me.”

Click here to see video of the exchange.

The GOP candidate’s dismissive manner in saying that one generated much talk afterward about what McCain meant.

For some, it was nothing more than McCain pointing at his opponent and saying that Obama was the one who voted with Bush.

But for others, the expression represented something sinister: a suggestion that that one — Obama — is not like the rest.

That undertone wasn’t lost on critics who have watched the McCain campaign attack Obama’s associates and relationships, including the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Weather Underground founder Bill Ayers, rather than his policies in the last week.

One group, the Center for Social Inclusion — a nonpartisan organization funded in part by the Ford Foundation — claims the phrase was racially charged.

“The racial undertones were subtle but unmistakable,” CSI Director Maya Wiley said in a statement released Wednesday.

“By making a dismissive, condescending remark like this, McCain was tapping into a current of superiority among white voters. It was an attempt to ‘otherize’ Obama and tap into the implicit bias that so many of us hold,â€� Wiley said.

“To my knowledge, I have never heard that used as a common phrase before,”said University of California-Berkeley linguistics professor George Lakoff.

“The phrase was meant to say, ‘You and I are in the same area, but he’s the outsider,’” Lakoff continued. “It’s the political equivalent of what (Sarah) Palin said the other day, which is, ‘He’s not one of us.’”

That one may also be the raging yang to a yin offered by the McCain campaign over the summer, when, in an ad, it compared Obama to Moses and mockingly suggested that the Democrat was “The One”who is hoping to achieve a messianic image and celebrity status.

University of Richmond Director of Debate Kevin Kuswa said that one probably grabbed the collective conscience because it was one of the very few “unfamiliar lines from the debate.”

Kuswa said that because of the town-hall format, the candidates were merely repeating their talking points.

“If these were more direct debates — in which candidates can ask each other questions directly — we would have more content material in our brains the next day,” he said.

“Any thing that stands out becomes magnified and more significant as people’s attention spans become shorter,”he said.

Kuswa added that individuals have homed in on the phrase because they can seize no other “defining gaffe” or “moment of total awkwardness in the presidential debates thus far.”

Whatever the intent, the description had caught on Wednesday among both Republicans and Democrats. Almost immediately after the debate, pro-Obama Web sites sprang up proudly describing Obama as “That One.”

The Republican National Committee also tried to have a little fun with the comment, calling that one the “most memorable line” of the debate and saying it plans to make use of the phrase in the coming days.

Obama campaign aides called the phrase “odd” and said it depicted the Arizona senator as “angry.” One aide characterized the phrase as McCain’s “get off my lawn moment.”

“It reminds you that McCain is sort of angry and agitated. He looked uncomfortable,” said Obama Communications Director Robert Gibbs.”I guess the pillow seat wasn’t soft enough. He stood and walked around.”

Senior adviser David Axelrod said the phrase suggests McCain is “a little bit irascible, a little bit peevish.”

“Last time we had the debate, Senator McCain didn’t want to look at Senator Obama, and he made this reference today,” Axelrod said after the debate.

A McCain campaign aide said she doesn’t know what the hullabaloo is about over McCain’s use of the phrase. The candidate has often singled out Obama that way.

“I’m shocked that at a moment of national crisis, where our economy is on the minds of every single person, I am shocked that they are again proving to be the fussiest campaign in American history, McCain adviser Nicole Wallace told reporters after the debate.

In an interview on ABC’s Good Morning America on Wednesday, Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden dismissed questions about the implication of singling out Obama as that one.

“I think when John knows he’s sort of in attack mode, it’s always kind of difficult to look the other person in the eye and say, ‘It’s you, John, it’s you, Barack, it’s you, Harry,’” Biden said, noting that McCain’s camp has gone on defense. “I think it reflects his more — he’s ill at ease with the attack he has under way.”

Kuswa said he suspects McCain most likely meant to use the expression in a non-hurtful way.

“I’m not sure I would consider it a gaffe. It might have been a slip,” Kuswa said.

“It struck me during the debate as unexpected. I don’t think McCain intended to be disrespectful, but it certainly sounded dismissive at the least — and if we’re concerned about how each candidate is referencing each other, I think saying that one is certainly below using one’s first name in terms of respect,” he said.

HF, I read in an article this week in Rolling Stone (called Make-Believe Maverick) — and I think this fact has been reported in other publications — that McCain’s shoulder was smashed by a rifle butt when he was being held in Vietnam.

@ Azzedine

You know people don’t care. They seem to love more of the same in this country. That is why Bush had for more years to f*ck us up the azz with no lube. But i feel it. Obama has this and McSame and them are resorting to all types of racist measures and it isn’t helping them in the least.

@ I’m Just Me

That’s Y I love me some you…

You put it out there…

To bad McCain can’t use a computer, I’d love to have him post on here.

@trs

You can see the Keith Olbermann video on msnbc(dot)com, and, I, uh, posted the full commentary on the Palin thread yesterday, lol.

@ Sydney

Girl I gotta run to the post office but I hope that you’re still here when I get back…I am going to check out that Keith Olbermann video for sure!!! Be back soon!!!

Bye, trs!

I also want to share a link for video of Donna Brazile at a political panel discussion over the weekend. It’s posted on the New Yorker’s site, www(dot)newyorker(dot)com:

But any uneasiness Brazile may have been feeling on the issue of race has clearly evaporated. Asked for some closing thoughts after the wide-ranging discussion, Brazile paused, then dove in:

“I’m gonna say it and get it off my chest, because for the next thirty days, I’m gonna be the best Catholic woman ever….As a child who grew up in the segregated Deep South, we’ve come so far in this country….But I remember when I used to get on the bus: my mother would tell me, “Donna, when you get on the bus, you and your brothers go all the way to the back, and don’t look at anybody.” We have changed. This is a more tolerant, open, progressive society. And yet, we’re having this conversation because [Obama] is biracial. He spent nine months in the womb of a white woman. He was raised…by his white grandparents…He got out of school and went to Harvard, and all of a sudden he’s “uppity” and there’s something wrong with him? What is wrong with us?…You can vote against him, but don’t ever put me in the back of the bus. I’m not going to the back of the bus! I’m not going to be afraid! My black skin does not make me inferior! And may I add: being a female does not make me dumb!”

Over rollicking applause, Brazile closed her mini-sermon:

“Don’t let people trick you, and distract you and divide you…Don’t let no one take us back! Because many of us are not going back—we’re going forward! And come with us!”

GET EM’ BROTHER MAN…

Bonobo:

The Bonobo is more gracile (slight in form) than the Common Chimpanzee. Its head is smaller than that of the Common Chimpanzee with less prominent eyebrow ridges. It has a black face with pink lips, small ears, wide nostrils, and long hair on its head. Females have slightly more prominent breasts in contrast to the flat breasts of other female apes, though not as prominent as those of humans. The Bonobo also has a slim upper body, narrow shoulders, thin neck, and long legs compared with the Common Chimpanzee. The Bonobo walks upright about 25% of the time during ground locomotion. These characteristics, and its posture, gives the Bonobo a more human-like appearance than that of the Common Chimpanzee (see: bipedal Bonobos). Moreover, the Bonobo has highly individuated facial features, as humans do, so that one individual can look significantly different from another, adapted for visual recognition in social interaction.

Link for new “That One” t-shirts:

www(dot)thatone08(dot)com

Sydney

HF, I read in an article this week in Rolling Stone (called Make-Believe Maverick) — and I think this fact has been reported in other publications — that McCain’s shoulder was smashed by a rifle butt when he was being held in Vietnam.

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I knew he was an unwilling guest of the Vietcong. As a veteran myself, (Desert Storm was my go-around) I appreciate John McCain’s sacrifice 4 the country.

[HF salutes]

But… (in my best Obama imitation) “let’s b clear….”

I have ZERO respect 4 a man who’s campaign if not advocating the assassination of his rival, is at least condoning it by not speaking out about it.

When the Jeremiah Wright incident came about, Obama clarified that he wasn’t running 4 the NAACP.

What did the mummy say about the recent “kill him” remark at Failin’s rally?

ZIP

So there4, as a black man FIRST, and a war veteran SECOND… the Mummy looks like a tot that needs a diaper change!

LMAO at callin him an Albino Bonobo!!! Great writing!!!

McCain really got Obama on a lot of issues (voting record, inexperience, etc). I also noticed that Obama did not really answer many of the allegations McCain had said against Obama. McCain did a wonderful Job!!!

@ Just Sayin

*blushes*

Thank you!

I’m not heated at u, Sydney, but hearing about these things being said as well as the treatment of black crew members at these rallies has my blood boiling!

Then again, I should’ve expected it, right?

@ I’m Just Me- Buffalo Bills (4-1) WE GOT THE CHARGERS ON THE 19th!!!!(Check me out!)

@ Just Sayin

*blushes*

Thank you!

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Your welcome…

That was a really good post!

@ Selena, i dont know what debate ur ass was watching…

LOL @ I’m just, you’re slashing ‘em left and right today aren’t cha?

@Sydney, thanks for the link about Brazile and the That One t-shirt. As soon as I heard what McShame said and read some commentary on the HuffPo, I knew a t-shirt was coming next.

@ HF(Check me out!)

I’m not heated at u, Sydney, but hearing about these things being said as well as the treatment of black crew members at these rallies has my blood boiling!

Then again, I should’ve expected it, right?

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I just read your previous post…

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam….

Ok sista’s and brothers…

If at all possible don’t go to large rallies where you are out numbered! That guy was doing his job and they gonna act like dat! They really getting heated up and the flame only been on a hot second.

:-/

Obama still hasn’t commented on how high his fine is going to be if you are not able to afford to get his health insurance. Or why in the hell will he meet with terrorist without any preconditions? How about his connection with terrorist Bill Ayers or rasist ass J Wright. You people are a bounch of sorry MFkers.

I have farted and made more sense then McCain.

Mmmmm there I go again {lifts leg up} makin sense again! Oh dammm some body cock a window open!

:-O

OBAMA DELIVERED ANOTHER VERBAL AZZ WHUPPING!!– TIME FOR McCAIN TO THROW IN THE TOWELL!!

@HF

No, it’s not a surprise, especially when McCain and Palin are targeting a certain group of voters of the uneducated kind — the type who don’t really care for people of a darker hue, if you catch my drift.

I feel sorry for that brotha — he was doing his job and was degraded in the worst way.

No problem, JSABP!

I’m Just Me, you’re just slaying them left and right today, aren’t you? lol

I liked how McCain gave examples of working with both parties unlike Obama who has only worked with Democrats. I also noticed that McCain seemed to connect more with the people in the audiecne by calling them by their first name, looking them in the eyes, and talking to audience instead of the camera like Obama was doing. I only wish that Obama would have had more town halls with McCain Obama said he would have them but then changed his mind). I think that this was one of McCain’s greatest debates.

look how McCain looks he is disgusting…old

Sydney

@HF

No, it’s not a surprise, especially when McCain and Palin are targeting a certain group of voters of the uneducated kind — the type who don’t really care for people of a darker hue, if you catch my drift.

I feel sorry for that brotha — he was doing his job and was degraded in the worst way.

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Tru dat!

How the blankety-blank is it a dude is WORKING at -not DISRUPTING, mind u- but WORKING at the rally, and they call him “boy?”

Then people wonder y I say a black Republican is like an Elk in the NRA. I betcha somewhere else in the crowd Larry Elder ‘n the like was blissfully unware as they cheered at the stage…

sickening….

GO MCCAIN!!!!!!

@ Sydney

YES I AM….SOMEONE HAS TO INFORM THESE PEOPLE AND I WILL HELP IN DOING SO!!!

@Selena

It was such a great debate for McCain that he lost it in all the polls I’ve read, including among undecided voters.

McCain connected so much with the audience members that he quickly left after the debate, leaving Barack and Michelle to meet and greet the participants by themselves, a fact that was noted by pundits. Tom Brokaw on MSNBC this morning said that he turned around and McCain was gone.

Obama has an established record of bipartisan leadership. . .Oh, what the heck, this is tiring. . .*sigh*

@HF

Yes, it’s more than sickening — it’s revolting.

@Selena

How in the world can you say that your candidate has done a “wonderful” job when he appeals to the lowest common denominator in our society? The kind that would yell, “Kill him,” at a rally and tell a black man who was performing his job to “Sit down, boy?”

Your man, McCain, is running a very dangerous campaign that appeals to a fringe element that he cannot control.

@ I’m Just Me-

@ Sydney

YES I AM….SOMEONE HAS TO INFORM THESE PEOPLE AND I WILL HELP IN DOING SO!!!

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KEEP DOIN’ YA THING MISS!!! IT IS MUCH NEEDED!!!!!!!

McCain and his wife shook hand with the audience. McCain was even seen next to Michelle Obama shaking hads with audience members. Just because someone leaves the debate first AFTHER THE DEBATE IS OVER doesn’t make them a bad person.

Hey Syd, speaking of Michelle O, she will b on Larry King 2nite. I’d like 2 c that interview, but I’m taking classes this evening… courtesy of the good ol’ G.I. Bill.

I’ll have 2 check it out online tomorrow.

Sydney,

You saying that McCain appears to the lowest commen demonitator is your opionin and is also a shame to the million of McCain supporters. Also, please list your sources when you accuse someones of your last 2 comments.

Y’all need to READ….SOMETHING. What a bunch of SHEEP! There is no way he is going to win.

Obama has an established record of bipartisan leadership. . .Oh, what the heck, this is tiring. . .*sigh*

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How does Obama has an established record of bipartisanship when he has one of the highest Democratic voting records in the Senate?

@sydney-

The Rolling Stone article was great! I usually avoid their pieces because they can be too long (yes, as intelligent as I am, I don’t like reading book length articles in entertaiment magazines).

It’s interesting to see that he is another child of priviledge who wants to rule the world. while he family may not have had Bush/Kennedy money, he’s always had connections to fall back on. He’s truly a repeat of the failed Bush family.

I meant Policies.

Obama was so presidential last night!!! He was poised and smiled while the dummy of Mclame-Mcinsane made a fool of himself..LOL, my brother called me last night to ask me if Mclame was RETARTED!!! LMOL…. He was acting to strange last night, perhaps is desperation!

and did anyone see the part when Mclame addressed Obama as “this one” WTF???? this old man has lost his (small to begin with) mind.

Now they done gave AIG 37.5BILLION MORE on top of the 85BILLION…and these mofos is partying on retiring peoples money.

And they gonna have the nerve to tell Americans that they have lost 2TRILLION dollars of the retirers money in two years and they wanna be like…oh well, get over it.

BAY-BEE, it’s good that I took out my money 2 years ago (THANKING GOD) but had this been my money and my house was in foreclosure and I’m about to be homeless…I’mma storm one of them CEO’s home and sit my azz up in there, drink that expensive wine and before you know it they gonna be calling me ‘Aunt Afiya’…spendin’ my money like it’s water and livin’ large on my hard earned money and I’m suppose to sit back and take it…I THINK NOT!!

RUSH THAT CEO…drive that BMW…hell he ain’t have respect for you…I wouldn’t have none for him…BASTIDS!!

@Selena-

Obama’s most famous bipartisan act has been his co-sponsorship of the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006. This act was originated (or introduced, I never get the terminology right) by Republican Senator Tom Coburn, and is often referred to as the Coburn-Obamam Transparency Act.

Other senators who sponsored this bill are Democrat Tom Carper (Caper?) and Republican Senator, and presidential nominee, John McCain.

Yea Necy, we gonna get a t-shirt that says:

I’M VOTING FOR ‘THIS ONE’

(on the back)

MY FRIENDS!

&Selena-

You are right, he does have one of the highest Democratic voting records in the Senate, but keep in mind, he’s only been in there 3 years. The same people who bring up his Democrat record are the same people who have to give him props for introducing and sponsoring a great deal of pertinent legislation, just not “dummy bills and propositions” to get his name on the rolls.

I don’t know every piece of legislation he’s done, but I have seen people from both sides of th eaisle commend his short record for being aggressive.

@ Afiya

Yea Necy, we gonna get a t-shirt that says:

I’M VOTING FOR ‘THIS ONE’

(on the back)

MY FRIENDS!

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MY SHIRT IS GONNA SAY…….

“YOU PEOPLE” SHOULD VOTE FOR “THIS ONE”

LOL!!!!!!!!

@afiya

Hey girl,

that does sound like a good idea!! turn a negative attemp to a positive… Mclame should be honored to be in the prescence of someone like Mr. Obama, He needs to take lessons from the classy man!!

@ Whats Yours is Mine

Great facts girl!!! Thanks for putting that out there….

@ Sydney

You still in here girl?

@whatsyourismine: If you go to Wikipedia and look up Obama, there are links to his Senate record, as well as some stuff on the page. It is very informative!

Mclame has something personal against Mr. Obama, that was so obvious last night!!! but what can we expect from someone who picks a dumb-ass like Palin as a vp running mate?

@ Necy

“Mclame has something personal against Mr. Obama, that was so obvious last night!!!”

100% Cosign!!! He hardly ever looked at Obama in the eye and refused to shake his hand after the debate! He is notorious in the senate for his bad temper, and I was waiting for it to erupt last night…too bad that I was disappointed.

All I can say is when all your taxes sky rocket when Obama is in office, I dont wanna hear any of you complain!!

at this picture!

Come November the 4th-we will all be taking a swing at McNursingHome and his airhead Palehead!!!

@Selena: Of course he has high marks with Democrats. But he has earned the respect of many Republicans becuase of his willingness to work across party lines and support common causes.

And for those who think the Republicans are the only ones pro-military – a non-partisan veteran’s group gave Obama a grade of B for his support of veterans and their issues, especially the medical and mental health care they should have coming home. And he made sure to try to be there for most of the votes. McCain – a grade of D.

From the New York Daily News:

“…But it only gets worse when one looks at McCain’s voting record. The nation’s largest Iraq veterans organization, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, a nonpartisan organization, grades members of Congress on how they vote on legislation that “affect[s] troops, veterans or military families.” This includes votes on such issues as expanded health care services for veterans and reservists, military death benefits, traumatic brain injury research and adequate rest for service members between deployments, just to name a few.

Of the 155 votes tracked by IAVA since 9/11, John McCain received a grade of “D.” While no senator earned a grade of “A,” Barack Obama got a “B .”

A separate veterans group, Disabled American Veterans – with over 1.4 million members – maintains a “Federal Vote Scorecard.” DAV is also a nonpartisan organization and says the purpose of its scorecard is “simply to report the facts – how [legislators] voted on issues important to us and our members.”

McCain’s score in the last Congress? 20%. Obama’s? 80%. (In the previous two Congresses, McCain’s record goes a little bit higher – to 25% and 33%, respectively; Obama’s is 92% for 2006; in 2004 he was not yet elected to the Senate.)”

@Radiohead: And taxes and the cost of living haven’t skyrocketed in the past 8 years?!?

Eddie you have good articles…long but informative.

WYIM:

Thank you for responding and giving good answers. However, you also mentioned that Obama has been in the Senate for only 3 years (state senate for 8) and this is my main concern with him. I am not saying that Obama will be a bad president. The main reasons why I am not voting for him is because he has not been in public office that long and I believe that he needs more time.

Selena.

I have done research on Senator Barack Obama. It is true that he has a record of bipartisaship-but you will not hear about that from Senator John McCain, because is his not supposed to expound on the excellent points of why Obama truly deserves to be placed in the White House-after all, McCa9in wants to reach the white himself, right?

Anyway, I recommend that you Go directly to Barack’s website. I am sure you know the address.

I hope it is not an issue for fellow Obama supporters, such as I, to educate Miss Selena on why he won this debate, the other, and why he should (and will) be the next Comander in Chief.

@ Rozza

You’re right on…they have both increased…unless you were already rich or affliated with big oil when Bush came into office. Notably, if you fell into one of those categories you got huge tax breaks and probably didn’t notice an increase in the cost of living because it didn’t affect you!

Hey everyone, I was in another thread.

@Selena

You’re referring to my second post? It’s from yesterday’s Dana Milbank column in The Washington Post, www(dot)washingtonpost(dot)com. Excerpt below:

Barack Obama, she told 8,000 fans at a rally here Monday afternoon, “launched his political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist!” This followed her earlier accusation that the Democrat pals around with terrorists. “This is not a man who sees America the way you and I see America,” she told the Clearwater crowd. “I’m afraid this is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to work with a former domestic terrorist who had targeted his own country.” The crowd replied with boos.

McCain had said that racially explosive attacks related to Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, are off limits. But Palin told New York Times columnist Bill Kristol in an interview published Monday: “I don’t know why that association isn’t discussed more.”

Worse, Palin’s routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric’s questions for her “less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media.” At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, “Sit down, boy.”

I was just thinking…when Obama wins November 4th…the theme song should be:

“WE TAKEN OVER, WE TAKEN OVER!!”

More from Dana Milbank:

The reception had been better in Clearwater, where Palin, speaking to a sea of “Palin Power” and “Sarahcuda” T-shirts, tried to link Obama to the 1960s Weather Underground. “One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers,” she said. (“Boooo!” said the crowd.) “And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, ‘launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,’ ” she continued. (“Boooo!” the crowd repeated.)

“Kill him!” proposed one man in the audience.

Palin also told those gathered that Obama doesn’t like American soldiers. “He said that our troops in Afghanistan are just, quote, ‘air-raiding villages and killing civilians,’ ” she said, drawing boos from a crowd that had not been told Obama was actually appealing for more troops in Afghanistan.

BFB

I HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON BARACK OBAMA AAANNDDD JOHN MCCAIN. I have been to both cantidates web sites numerous times and based on my research I have chosen John McCain due to McCain having YEARS OF EXPERIENCE working with both parties which was listed in last’s night’s debate as well.

@ Sydney

Girl I didn’t know that all that went down in Clearwater. That is only about 2 hours from here. See mess like that makes me fantasize about that juicy slap! LOL

LMAO @ Afiyah!!!!

Girl you know you was wrong for that. ROTFLMAO

The real bipartisan

Email|Link|Comments (7) Posted by Lisa Wangsness, Political Reporter September 25, 2008 12:24 PM

If you were wondering who the real bipartisan leader was in the struggle between John McCain and Barack Obama to look presidential on the financial crisis, Joe Biden can tell you.

Speaking at a high school in Greensburg, Pa. this morning, Biden said nothing about McCain’s call to postpone the debate, a move that caught the Obama campaign off-guard yesterday. Instead he emphasized Obama’s phone call to McCain yesterday morning to see if they could come out with a joint statement on what the bailout legislation should contain.

“In the midst of all this political blather that’s going on, all the negative ads being heaped upon him, what did he do?” Biden said. “He reached out, he picked up the phone and he called John MCCain. And he said we should …see if we can agree jointly … on the basic elements of what needs to be in this package, this rescue package, so that not only Wall Street doesn’t fail, but Main Street doesn’t get crushed in the avalanche when it falls.

“He showed leadership. He showed leadership by suggesting that we come together. But ladies and gentlemen, he also thinks it’s important that we know why we got here how we got here so it will not happen again. Ladies and gentlement, we are in a postion now where in a closely contested presidential election, Barack Obama stepped up to say, ‘John, this is too important.’ That’s how you change the tone in Washington. That’s really leadership.”

Blair Latoff, spokesman for the Republican National Committee, responds: “In times of crisis, Americans have always been able to bridge our divides and solve our problems but apparently Barack Obama’s running mate sees it as an opportunity for unfiltered partisanship and political opportunism. John McCain suspended his campaign and is working with the nation’s leaders to address this serious economic crisis and believes that it is more important to put his country before his political campaign.”

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Viewers reactions on CNN was more postive toward Obama than McCain in light of the fact that Obama actually cares about the plight of middle class and working poor. Ask yourself why so many americans-Democrats, some Republicans, and Independents tend to response better to Obama than to McCain on economic issues.

@Leroy:

Keating Five (direct, not peripheral involvement)

Part of the Reagan era, home of Ollie North, Iran-Contra, the funding of bin Laden and the Mujahadeen against the Russians.

Cohort of Saddam Hussein until the late ’80s, due to the fact that Iraq was an enemy of Iran (still is)

Thinks Hussein gassing his own people horrible! It happened in the late ’80′s, however only showed outrage when Bush pushed the “Invade Iraq” agenda

Admitted in his own book that he wasn’t as brave as everyone thinks while a POW – gave info for medical treatment while a POW

Upon release, returned to the States, dumped his wife who was disfigured in a horrifying accident. Then promptly married socialite Cindy, who is an heir to the Budweiser fortune.

Just goes to show Leroy, those who wear white suits should not sling mud.

Obama isn’t perfect, but stay on the issues, tell us what we need to know because we are on a scary treacherous path. McCain’s campaign is bringing out the worst in folks, and his silence against the horrendous behavior only makes it seem that he is endorsing it and hoping it turns the tide for him. He is fear-mongering and it needs to stop.

Ok, Selena. what all do you know about John McCain? what do you have to say about his involvement with Keating and how it relates to the country’s financial problems?

@Black Woman: You are doing the damn thing! Your posts are very informative and on point today!

*CLAPPING FOR ROZZA*

If your BLACK you need to vote for OBAMA…just on the strength that your ancestors died for this freedom.

You’ve voted for a white man all your voting life…

GIVE THE BLACK MAN A CHANCE! Damn, at least ONE TIME!!

Her post were on point last night too Rozza…gurlfriend doing her research…I applaud her!

Thanks Sista!

@trs

Yes, girl, that happened in your state. You should have gone over there and slapped the lipstick off Palin!! That “Christian” woman was evil as h-e-double-hockey-sticks.

Have you seen conservative Kathleen Parker’s commentary, “Call Off the Pit Bull?”

@Rozza

I try.

Now Cindy McCain is getting in the fray, and attacking Obama, saying “He is running the dirtiest campaign she has ever seen.” Really!?!?!? She must be sleeping in a separate room or house from her husband. McCain is using Rove-style dirty tactics, and is behaving in a mean condescending manner toward Obama, not like an elder statesman should be behaving. Anyone can see this.

I see so much hate and venom spewing from conservative pundits and news organizations, and rather than concentrating on issues, even McCain’s own campaign people said to turn the page on “this economic thing” and start attacking Obama’s character.

Hey Afiya, Sydney! Thanks TRS. All it takes is some research and education, and you can get your point across. I have been doing it at work for days now.

Cindy selected Sarah

Hey Rozza!

Just came across from Politico(dot)com:

Conservative pundits and bloggers expressed outrage Wednesday over John McCain’s plan for the federal government to spend $300 billion to buy up troubled mortgages, announced during his debate with Barack Obama Tuesday night.

“Last night, he took that position on the housing issue of buying up everybody’s mortgage,” former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said on Fox News. “Conservatives are scratching their heads today and saying, ‘What happened?’”

“What on earth is that about?” Huckabee asked. “Then you got to ask, which houses? The condos in southern Florida, where people bought $500,000 homes as a second home and now can’t pay for them? Are we buying those, too?”

Conservative columnist and blogger Michelle Malkin couldn’t hold back her disdain for the proposal.

“I can’t underscore enough what a rotten idea John McCain’s ACORN-like government mortgage buy-up is,” Malkin wrote on her blog, referring to the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group reviled by conservatives for its support of liberal ideals and alleged corruption. “Will he propose a similar plan for those who bought mutual funds at or near the market top?”

“Folks, forget about all this policy wonkery,” National Review’s Andy McCarthy advised in the magazine’s online blog, The Corner. “McCain’s policies have driven us crazy for years.”

@Rozza

Last night, a friend of mine said the Botox must have gotten to Cindy’s brain for her to make a statement like that about Obama.

@Sydney: I don’t want to be mean, but it sounds like Cindy has gone back to eating Percocets and Vicodin like Skittles.

@ Sydney

Girl I want to handle that so damn bad…you don’t even know!!! As she hit the ground from that juicy slap, I would attempt to pull out some strands of her hair to remember how much I enjoyed the moment!!!!

What gets me is how Palin could even DREAM that she is qualified enough to be president!!! She can’t even get through a tv interview without saying something amazingly asinine! She says the same damn thing at every rally that she’s participated in over the past week!

Girl Parker ripped McCain/Palin a new one in that article!!! Too bad they won’t take one of their own’s advice and cut the bs—they need to stick to the issues. They know that their days are numbered…and that’s why they’re intentionally misleading the American people who don’t know any better. It’s the only way that they have a shot at winning.

Sydney:

You stated in your original post that John McCain is the one saying these rasist thing against Obama. According to the Washington post article that yous sent (and I read). It is not McCain who is doing these things but some of his supporters. McCain cannot control what people say or believe (even if some of them are rasist and ignorant). When I was supporting Hillary in the primaries, I was called rasist, a c@nt, and bytch by Obama supporter. Some of them even vandalized my Hillary 08 sign by spray painting B@tch on it. I like Sarah Palin and I will admit that I do not agree with all the things that she and McCain say, however, I am voting for McCain based on his experience and history willingness to work with both parties.

@ Rozza

Girl now im am going to have to whoop you for that! LOL You are probably right.

“I AM Going to have to….”

TYPO

@trs: WHo is Parker, and what article are you talking about? (Being nosy and all up in your Kool-Aid and stuff!)

@ Selena

Clearly, you have made up your mind about who you would like to be the next president of the United States. Certainly, that is your right to do so. As you can see, this is a publc forum in support of Barack Obama. Why do you feel the need to go back and forth with members of this community about it? We can’t change your mind, and you can’t change ours…. so what gives? Are you looking to debate our choice?

@Selena

Below is my post. Where did I say that McCain said anything racist about Obama:

How in the world can you say that your candidate has done a “wonderful” job when he appeals to the lowest common denominator in our society? The kind that would yell, “Kill him,” at a rally and tell a black man who was performing his job to “Sit down, boy?”

Your man, McCain, is running a very dangerous campaign that appeals to a fringe element that he cannot control.

@ Rozza

Girl you aren’t all in the kool-aid. You know that we’re all fam up in here!!!

Kathleen Parker is a conservative columnist who published a scathing commentary on Palin in the Washington Post. She was a vocal supporter of Palin until she started f’in up in multiple t.v. interviews and public appearances. At that point, Parker flipped it up and said that Palin was “out of her league.” She then encouraged Palin to drop out of the race in an op ed that was published in the Post.

Recently, she published an editorial encouraging the McCain campaign to stop misleading voters by insinuating that he is a Muslim and in league with terrorists.

She stated: “The McCain campaign knows that Obama isn’t a Muslim or a terrorist, but they’re willing to help a certain kind of voter think he is. Just the way certain South Carolinians in 2000 were allowed to think that McCain’s adopted daughter from Bangladesh was his illegitimate black child.”

She went on to say that McCain needs “call off his pit bull before this war escalates.”

Just pop him one time, OB. Just one time!!

And did I mention that she is a Republican?!! At least some of them have the decency to call it like they see it!

This was another gem from her article:

“When racial epithets, death threats and charges of treason are flung daily at McCain/Palin rallies — and neither candidate lifts a finger to stop it — we have entered a very frightening and disappointing moment in our nation’s history.”

@Selena

To continue my post, there’s a clear distinction between Obama and McCain’s approach to “rowdy” supporters. Obama has condemned any remarks from his supporters — such as the staffer who called Hillary a “monster” — that could be construed as offensive. He has done this throughout the campaign, and even said he would fire any member of his staff whom he found distributing derogatory statements about a member of Palin’s family when she was first introduced to the race.

McCain, and, more specifically, Palin, this weekend embarked on a movement to tear apart Obama’s character, even resorting to the spread of untruths and mischaracterizations that cast him in the most negative light imaginable. By allowing announcers to emphasize his middle name, linking his name with “terrorists,” and arousing doubts about his patriotism, they have painted a picture of him that has stoked anger and hatred among some of their supporters. And, when it has been brought to their attention, guess what, they have only continued it.

When people yell racial slurs, “Kill him,” and “terrorist” at your rallies, a line of decency has been crossed — one that could possibly impact the safety of the a black man whom some already view as “Other.”

@trs: Going negative is all they know – for the past 20 years or so, it is all they know.

Sydney,

My bad.(I’ve been on this computer too long) It appears that that statement is just your opionion then.

TRS,

My mind has been made just as yours and many others are made. It also doesn’t say anywhere on this post that I cannot comment just because I support someone else. I am the type of person who talks with all types of people regardless of political affiliation, race, sex etc.

I’m out

@Selena

Um, no, the opinion is not just mine. I’m sure you’ve read Kathleen Parker’s commentary today, which trs referenced, as well as the NY Times editorial, which also denounced these latest campaign tactics, and I have some other “opinions” to share with you as well, if you like.

@ Selena

I just wanted to see where you were coming from with the back and forth because as you know, there is a difference between conversing and debating. At least you aren’t hurling racial epithets and spewing untruths like many McCain supporters do so I can respect you for that. You’re casting your vote for McCain, and we are casting ours for Obama.

Do you.

Respect,

~TRS

@ Sydney

SHARE!! SHARE!!!

Sydney;

I do believe that Obama needs to answer for his history with Ayers, Wright, and other questionable people he has had in his life. I do not fully agree with the way that Palin is doing this but I do understand. Even if Obama does become president he will probably always be vernalbe for an attack due to his race. There will always be prejudice people in the world and many of them are McCain and Obama supporters.

@Selena: Silence in the face of racial bigotry and abject hatred is as bad as openly endorsing it.

As far as experience goes, name one President in the last, oh let’s say, 30 years that had much foreign policy experience prior to getting elected? Democrat or Republican? They become effective by surrounding themselves with knowledgeable statesmen, and experts in various fields of governance. That is the purpose of the Cabinet, the Joint Chiefs, and ambassadors and advisors. No President will ever have all the requisite “experience” upon arrival to the office, but I trust the wisdom of a man (or woman) who recognizes this and fills the empty seats with the smartest, best, and brightest.

Forgive me if I don’t want to hear “Gosh, golly-gee, and darn it all!” at a press conference, the negotiation table, or any other important national affair. I don’t want my leadaer winking, blinking, and twitching at world leaders. Sorry – that’s just me, I suppose.

@Selena: Silence in the face of racial bigotry and abject hatred is as bad as openly endorsing it.

As far as experience goes, name one President in the last, oh let’s say, 30 years that had much foreign policy experience prior to getting elected? Democrat or Republican? They become effective by surrounding themselves with knowledgeable statesmen, and experts in various fields of governance. That is the purpose of the Cabinet, the Joint Chiefs, and ambassadors and advisors. No President will ever have all the requisite “experience” upon arrival to the office, but I trust the wisdom of a man (or woman) who recognizes this and fills the empty seats with the smartest, best, and brightest.

Forgive me if I don’t want to hear “Gosh, golly-gee, and darn it all!” at a press conference, the negotiation table, or any other important national affair. I don’t want my leader winking, blinking, and twitching at world leaders. Sorry – that’s just me, I suppose.

Thanks for that article, Black Woman!

Ladies, I’m looking for Republican strategist Mike Murphy (whom I happen to like and respect — he’s a smart guy) on McCain’s latest strategy, which he disagrees with. I believe he wrote about it on Time(dot)com.

Also, David Brooks of the NY Times, whom I also believe is conservative, had this to say about McCain (from The Huffington Post):

David Brooks spoke frankly about the presidential and vice presidential candidates Monday afternoon, calling Sarah Palin a “fatal cancer to the Republican party” but describing John McCain and Barack Obama as “the two best candidates we’ve had in a long time.”

In an interview with The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg at New York’s Le Cirque restaurant to unveil that magazine’s redesign, Brooks decried Palin’s anti-intellectualism and compared her to President Bush in that regard:

[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he’d rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn’t think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.

Brooks praised Palin’s natural political talent, but said she is “absolutely not” ready to be president or vice president. He explained, “The more I follow politicians, the more I think experience matters, the ability to have a template of things in your mind that you can refer to on the spot, because believe me, once in office there’s no time to think or make decisions.”

The New York Times columnist also said that the “great virtue” of Palin’s counterpart, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is that he is anything but a “yes man.”

“[Biden] can’t not say what he thinks,” Brooks remarked. “There’s no internal monitor, and for Barack Obama, that’s tremendously important to have a vice president who will be that way. Our current president doesn’t have anybody like that.”

Brooks also spent time praising Obama’s intellect and skills in social perception, telling two stories of his interactions with Obama that left him “dazzled”:

Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I’m getting nowhere with the interview, it’s late in the night, he’s on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he’s cranky. Out of the blue I say, ‘Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?’ And he says, ‘Yeah.’ So i say, ‘What did Niebuhr mean to you?’ For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr’s thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

@Selena

Obama has addressed all the issues you have named. Would you like for me to list those as well for you, one by one? Since you are a former Clinton supporter, I’m sure you’re aware that this is territory that was probed extensively during the primary.

Obama may not have been in the Senate for 26 or more years, and he was never a governor for at least 18 months, but he has demonstrated strength of judgement, character, superior organizational and executive skills, and yes, he is smarter than the “average moose”.

Just a reminder for all New York heads, we have until OCTOBER 10TH to register to vote.

Also if you are a convicted felon and NOT on probation, you are allowed to vote, so PLEASE register now!!!!

Go Sydney, go Sydney!

LOL @ smarter than the “average moose”

That is a smart brother, indeed!

LOL @ Rozza

Girl, we’re some posting sistas up in here! lol Don’t get us started.

I have a newsflash for you, Selena-people in John’s party thinks he’s scary.

Once, in 2000-when cindy McCain made a joke about John’s hair, he said

“At least I don’t plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt”-directly to Cindy!!! When asked this question at a town hall meeting on April 23, 2008-John refused to answer.

A July 5 NewsMax.com article quoted former Sen. Bob Smith, a New Hampshire Republican who served with McCain on the Senate Armed Services Committee, as saying, “I have witnessed incidents where he has used profanity at colleagues and exploded at colleagues . . . He would disagree about something and then explode. It was incidents of irrational behavior. We’ve all had incidents where we have gotten angry, but I’ve never seen anyone act like that.”

“Only an asshole would put together a budget like this,” John told the former Budget Committee chairman, Sen. Pete Domenici, in 1999.

McCain has even blown up at volunteers and, on occasion, the average Joe.

He often pokes fun at his reputation: “Thanks for the question, you little jerk,” he said last year to a New Hampshire high school student wondering if McCain, at 71, was too old to be president.

Now, I do not think having anger issues and being a racist counts much for experience, but we all are entitled to our opinions.

The Ayers connection has already been throughly addressed. Need I also remind everyone that Ayers turned himself in to the Feds and was NEVER charged for his supposed crimes. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers committed those acts and he served on a board with Ayers after law school.

Just because he served on a committee with Ayers and helped Ayers distribute money towards education in Chicago does NOT mean that Obama has radical views, condones terrorist acts, or is a terrorist himself!!

Ayers has been reformed and has moved past the atrocities of nearly 35 years ago….the rest of America should move on as well instead of rehashing old news from months ago.

Found what I was looking for. Below is an excerpt from GOP strategist Mike Murphy’s interview Sunday on Meet the Press:

MR. MURPHY: Yeah. I—I’m not sure that should be accepted as a premise by the McCain campaign. I think they have to prosecute that all the way. That’s a smart ad by Obama. If McCain lets him get away with that, he’s going to have trouble. I think the Obama campaign wants to run economy vs. character. I think what McCain ought to pivot to is, one, connect himself to middle-class worries and squeezes. He is a reformer who’s going to change the way Washington works. That’s built into his DNA. And second, bring up the issue of the concept of a runaway liberal one-party train here in Washington. You know, just no checks and balances at all. McCain, a partisan, can-do pragmatist vs. the idea that everything in this town being run by the Democrats with no restraint, no balance, no control, and that’ll affect the economy in a bad way. I think that’s a better prosecution for the McCain campaign than these character attacks or these dubious association, you know, background issues and Obama. They’re hurt him, but I don’t think that’s the key when everybody in the country, at least the swing voters that are going to control the election, are very much worried about the economy. That’s where all the interest, focus and worry is.

Speaking of Peggy Noonan, below are remarks from her also from Sunday’s Meet the Press, www(dot)msnbc(dot)com:

MR. BROKAW: And, Peggy Noonan, as you know, the McCain campaign has signaled pretty strongly they’re going to strain—change their strategy. We have a quote from The Weekly Standard. Bill Kristol, who is the editor, is, of course, in the College of Cardinals, he’s the Pope when it comes to writing about what’s going on in the conservative movement. He says in The Weekly Standard, “More important is the negative message. The McCain campaign has to convince 51 percent of the voters they can’t trust Barack Obama to be our next president. … Character is a legitimate issue. Obama hasn’t shown much in the way of leadership or political courage, and he’s consorted with dubious figures. It’s fair to ask whether Barack Obama is personally trustworthy enough to be president, and the McCain campaign shouldn’t be intimidated from going there.” We already heard on this broadcast, Senator Palin yesterday, raising the association that he had with William Ayers, who is a former member of the Weathermen, a very radical group from the ‘60s and ‘70s, who is now a school reformer in Illinois. Is this a smart strategy, in your judgment, for the McCain campaign?

MS. NOONAN: You know what, this has been a long campaign. We are in the last month. It is still close. Whoever’s rising or, or, or falling, it’s really close. And some part of me fears they’re going to open up the gates of hell on this one. It seems to me there is trench warfare out there. The left—there’s a huge middle in America, but there’s a left. They think they’re going to win, and they’re getting meaner than ever. The right fears they’re going to lose, they’re getting meaner than ever. I would hate to see this descend into this, this—“I’ll kill—I’ll tear your throat out” kind of stuff. I think that would be harmful. I think we are at a unique and dangerous…

MR. YEPSEN: But, Tom…

MS. NOONAN: …moment in history, and it’s the last thing we need. And I don’t speak as a sissy; I’m trying to speak as an adult.

MR. BROKAW: Yeah. David.

MR. YEPSEN: There’s a danger, Tom, that it backfires.

MS. NOONAN: Yeah. Yeah.

MR. YEPSEN: I mean, clearly John McCain is worried. They’re, they’re on defense. The best proof of that, Tom, is, is what is Sarah Palin doing this afternoon? She is in Omaha, Nebraska. Now, when a Republican vice presidential candidate has to go to defend one congressional district—they vote their electors by congressional district–30 days out, it tells you they’re worried. And so what, what I see happening in the McCain campaign, with all this talk about William Ayers, is this sort of a sense of desperation. It could get carried away, and it’s irrelevant to people in mainstream America, in middle America. You know, William Ayers, what do they care about—how is that going to put gas in the tank or get somebody a job? I think it runs the risk of coming off as irrelevant.

Ladies, fellow news posters, I think I’m done for the evening, lol. You all have a good night.

Selena

You are welcome to post things on John McCain to disporve the things we have presented.

They keep using his middle name to frighten and incite….Insisting that this man is Muslim….All I hope is that the people they are polling now who are saying they are going to vote for Barack stick to what they are saying once they get in the voting booth…

@ Sydney

I’m out too. Have a good night!!! I hope to see you again soon!

Goodnight Sydney, u posted some good stuff, u go girl, u one of the black elite

AYERS ADMITTED THAT HE COMMITTED TERRORIST ACTIVITY AND HE HIMSELF SAID THAT HE IS NOT SORRY FOR IT. HE GOT OFF BECAUSE OF LEGAL TECHNICALLITIES. ANYWAYS IMMA LEAVE Y’ALL ALONE CAUSE TALKIN TO Y’ALL IS A WASTE OF TIME.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08

Leroy

Name how by the fact that Ayers is a terrosti-that means Obama is a terrorist.

OH, AND AT LEAST SOMEBODY GOT SENSE. SELENA YOU MY GIRL. YOU SHOULDN’T EVEN BE TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE. LET ME GET OTTA HERE BEFORE THESE PEOPLE START COPY AND PASTING SOME MORE BULL.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08!

PALIN/ROBERTSON 2012!

@BLACK WOMEN 4 BARACK

YOU HAVE ON GLASSES BUT THEY MUST BE FOR STYLE ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY BLIND AS THEY COME. OBAMA IS FULL OF FALSE HOPE. HIS POLICIES ARE RIDICULOUS BECAUSE THERE IS NO MEANS TO ACHIEVE HIS STATEMENTS. IT SOUNDS NICE TO YOU ALL, BUT IN REALITY IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08

:laughing:

Black Conservative

I do not understand how my glasses have anything to do with the topic at hand, or if you do have a topic to address. I understand you support McCain and Palin-which is your right, but you haven’t talked about their plans for the issues. Educate me. I’m a middle class lady with legit concerns for the economy, healthcare, education, and the energy. what are McCain and Palin’s plans for those things-especially for the MIDDLE CLASS such as I?

I will listen.

By the way-WOMEN is plural. I am only one lady-hence why I have my name as black.woman-see?

Carry on.

obama 08

all im saying

OBAMA/ BIDEN 2008!

SORRY, I DIDNT REALIZE YOU WERE A MIDDLE-CLASS CITIZEN. I VOTE WITH THE CANIDATE WHO MATCHES MY FAMILY’S NEEDS THE CLOSEST AND IN THIS ELECTION MCCAIN/PALIN ARE THE ANSWER. I DON’T AGREE WITH TAXING MY FAMILY TO PAY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN PUBLIC HOUSING,RECEIVE MEDICAID BENEFITS, AND FOOD STAMPS. MY FAMILY WORKED TO OBTAIN OUR PROPERTY AND IN OUR SOCIETY I FEEL EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE TO EARN WHAT THEY POSSESS/OR DONT POSSESS.

IN SUMMARY, OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE MY FAMILY’S HARD EARNED MONEY AND PASS IT OUT TO LAZY FOLKS WHO RESIDE IN FREE HOUSING,EAT FREE FOOD, AND VISIT THE DOCTOR AS THEY DESIRE FOR FREE!!!

That’s right! Obama is slammin on McCain!!! If you want to support your boy, check out these MusicSkins showing Obama dunkin on McCain from Undrcrwn at www. musicskins. com/undrcrwn (without the spaces of course). There are skins for your iPods, cell phones, laptops, and gaming devices.

hee haw hee haw hee haw.

@Black Conservative, what do you think of the race bating of Palin? and the condesending tone of which McCain speaks to his fellow opponent? he has no respect for this man who happens to be black, just wondering your take, as a black person how does this sit w/you? and please i’m asking you as a human, don’t bark down to me as if i’m your servant.

MY CYBER-FRIEND THE BANK CANNOT REPOSSESS WHAT IS NOT THEIRS! MY FAMILY PURCHASED 272 ACRES BACK IN 1994 AND IN 2002 THE LAND WAS DEVELOPED INTO A PLANNED COMMUNITY WITH ITS OWN GROCERY STORE AND STRIP MALL. THIS INVESTMENT ALONE NETTED MY PARENTS AND MY UNCLE 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

Obama 2008 all the way.

I DONT FEEL MCCAIN DISRESPECTS OBAMA PER SE, I FEEL HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS BEING DOWN TO HIS FELLOW MAN. OBAMA IS A TOKEN BLACK MAN WHO WAS SHAPED FOR THIS ELECTION. THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

CHECK OBAMA’S VOTING RECORD IN THE SENATE! HE HAS AVOIDED CERTAIN ISSUES BECAUSE THE PARTY KNEW IT WOULD BE USED AGAINST HIM DURING THIS CAMPAIGN.

JOHN MCCAIN IS A MAVERICK WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO CHALLENGE MAJOR CORPORATIONS.

MCCAIN/PALIN 08!

AZZEDINE

HE’S WHITE THAT’S WHY NONE OF WHAT YOU’VE MENTIONED BOTHERS HIM. HE IS BOTHERED BY THE FACT THAT OBAMA MIGHT WIN. BTW 4.2 MILLION DOES NOT MAKE YOU MIDDLE CLASS “MY FRIEND”.

I love the photo, guys! Punch a racist in the face day

CORRECTION:

HE’S (BLACK CONSERVATIVE) IS A WHITE RACIST. I KNOW IT SCARES THE F*** OUT OF YOU THAT A STRONG INTELLEGENT BLACK MAN MAY RUN THIS COUNTRY AND ACTUALLY *GASP* RUN IT SUCESSFULLY BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. LOL, AT YOU RELATING TO THE MIDDLE CLASS-WHAT A JOKE!

BE REAL I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE MIDDLE CLASS! REVIEW MY PREVIOUS POSTS AND YOU WILL SEE I WAS ADDRESSING THE BLACK WOMAN WEARING THE GLASSES. I AM NOT TOO CONCERNED EITHER WAY BECAUSE MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND AND MY FAMILY IS VERY STABLE WHEN IT COMES TO FINANCIAL STATUS.

Black Conservative

I do not have a problem with programs that support people who are trying their damnest to make it to where they no longer need them. I will concur with you that there are people who abuse the system.

But you wrong about saying Barack wants to raise your taxes. If you make less than 250,000 a year your taxes will not go up but go down, and if you do make above that-your taxes will go to the same level it was when Bill Clinton was in office.

Also-why is it that you have nothing to say about John McCain’s involvement with Keating 5? That is partially responsible for this financial turmoil.

I would like for you to get specific in your discussion. You said what you said about Obama, and that’s ok-but tell me what about John? What will he do for me?

JOHN MCCAIN IS A MAVERICK WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO CHALLENGE MAJOR CORPORATIONS.

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Once again, he did not challenge Michael Keating. When are you going to talk about that, Black Conservative?

Once more-what does my glasses have to do with the discussion? do you have an issue with women who wear glasses, or something?

i agree look at those folks i that company AIG that had all that money that helped bail then out and then they went n took taxpayers money to go to spas (expensive hotel resorts and all kind of mess) which folks that work 2 jobs could probably never afford if they wanted too, its a dam shame n its ridiculous how all that money is spent on rich company and then the mofo’s who got fired and is collecting miliions in benefits after being fired, no matter what OBAMA/BIDEN 2008!

old mcdonald oops mecain had a farm ee yi ee yi OLD , fuc8 mccain see how i care about him didnt even bother to capitalize his name.

Let’s talk about John McCain’s latest idea-to spend 300 billion on the bad mortgages. This is a bad idea, because the plan would cause the government hand out more money for mortgages in a plan that would guarantee taxpayers lose money, and put them at risk of losing even more if home values don’t recover.

Black Conservative-you eluded to welfare. What do you know about wealth-fare?

I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR VIEWS AND I RESPECT THAT, BUT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT SEE MAJOR CHANGE UNDER SEN. OBAMA. GETTING SPECIFIC IS WITHOUT MERIT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT WILL ACCOMPLISH NOTHING ON THIS BLOG.

SEN MCCAIN WILL RECEIVE A VOTE FROM 90% OF MY FAMILY.

THE BIGGER QUESTION IS IF OBAMA WINS DOES THE RACE CARD GET DESTROYED FOREVER???

DON’T ARGUE WITH THE BLACK CONSERVATIVE POSTER GIRL! HE IS FAMOUS ON THIS SITE FOR STARTING ARGUMENTS AND THEN NOT JUSTIFYING HIS REMARKS. LET IT GO BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT WIN WITH HIM.

1 TRU DIVA I REPLIED TO YOUR EMAIL GIRL!

BRB

THEN YOUR JUST LIKE MCCAIN…OUT OF TOUCH. NO YOU DIDN’T SAY YOU WERE MID CLASS BUT YOU ASSUME ALL PEOPLE LIVING ON SUBSIDIES ARE LAZY. THAT’S WHY I KNOW YOUR WHITE OR NON-BLACK AND A RACIST TOO. ALL YOU BASTARDS THINK ALIKE. DON’T ASSUME THAT YOUR SO SECURE. THE MARKET IS FALLING DAILY AND ITS BECAUSE OF THE DECISIONS MADE UNDER THE BUSH ADMIN. WHICH MCCAIN SUPPORTS(ALONG WITH KEATING). LIKE I SAID-THAT FOOD STAMP LINE MAY BE CLOSER TO YOU THAN YOU THINK.

I’m saving that pic on MySpace. Mccain tried his best to make Obama look bad last night, but it didn’t work. Obama stood his ground and was calm about everything. MCcain is only making himself look even more like the loser he already is by trying to hurt someones elses intergrity.

I just don’t get it I know all people cannot agree with Senator Obama. However, some people down play Obama’s education, and political stance to bring new ideas in reconstructing America’s economic system.

A commentary on CNN just called Obama a smooth talker, and McCain a straight talker. How much do they pay these people to talk this nonsense because obviously I am in the wrong profession.

I suggest everyone try to go to a Obama/Biden rally. I went to see Joe Biden today at a rally and it was by far the most riveting moment of my life. What an exciting movement, “Movement” that is how a describe this election.

Obama/Biden

Black Conservative

This is a discussion. My emotions have nothing to do with the topic, and neither do yours. You support your candidate based on the economy, the wame way I do mine. I have discussion partially things that relate to Obama’s agenda, and you have not done so to for John McCain. Now, I would think that if we were to interject emotions into the discussion-it is possible that you feel passionate about John McCain-which would be furthered if you would expound on his record and his plans if elected. I am serious. I want to understand your candidate, and I am giving you the opportunity to do that-but if you cannot do this simple task, then it causes me to suspect that you are not as informed about John McCain as I am about Barack Obama, and you are voting for him out of ignorance the same way others did for George W. Bush, but I digress. I will give you one more chance for you to give me detaisl about John McCain’s plans-if you can’t then I will know it’s because he really has none.

I really want to know why you will not respond to John McCain’s relations with Michael Keating, though.

Always Knew, i hear u OBAMA 2008!

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Check em out at http://www.musicskins.com/undrcrwn

I dont see no black man killing himself n family because he lost his job, that aint nothing new to some black families, a whole of folks are feeling this recession and aint no way in hell im voting for a man who was against Dr. King’s birthday being a holiday.

IF OBAMA WINS DOES THE RACE CARD GET DESTROYED FOREVER???

WHY DON’T YOU ASK MCCAIN AND PALIN?

Those musicskins are the truth. But how much, cause I am still struggling.

I love the photo, guys!

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WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE PULL THE RACE CARD MORE THAN ANY OTHER RACE! LOOK AT HISPANICS, THEY ARE TAKING OVER AND I RARELY HEAR THEM PULLING THE RACE CARD YET WE CONTINUE TO USE IT EVERY CHANCE WE GET.

The ones for the phones and iPods are $15 + S/H. The full list of devices and prices are listed when you click on the Obama Knows graphic.

LIBERALS GIVE ME NIGHTMARES! SMILE

@black conservative

Black Conservative, are you passive-aggressive?

BLACK CONSERVATIVE::

Here is some info about McCain will “CHALLENGE MAJOR CORPORATIONS.

McCain also did his part to loosen regulations on big corporations. In 1997, McCain became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee, which oversees the insurance and telecommunications industries, as well as the CEO pay packages of those McCain now denounces as “fat cats.” The special interests with business before the committee were big and well-heeled. All told, executives and fundraisers associated with these firms donated $2.6 million to McCain when he served as the chairman or ranking member.

The money bought influence. In 1998, employees of BellSouth contributed more than $16,000 to McCain. The senator returned the favor, asking the Federal Communications Commission to give “serious consideration” to the company’s request to become a long-distance carrier. Days after legislation benefiting the satellite-TV carrier EchoStar cleared McCain’s committee, the company’s founder celebrated by hosting a major fundraiser for McCain’s presidential bid.

Whatever McCain’s romantic entanglements with the lobbyist Vicki Iseman, he was clearly in bed with her clients, who donated nearly $85,000 to his campaigns. One of her clients, Bud Paxson, set up a meeting with McCain in 1999, frustrated by the FCC’s delay of his proposed takeover of a television station in Pittsburgh. Paxson had treated McCain well, offering the then-presidential candidate use of his corporate jet to fly to campaign events and ponying up $20,000 in campaign donations.

“You’re the head of the commerce committee,” Paxson told McCain, according to The Washington Post. “The FCC is not doing its job. I would love for you to write a letter.”

Iseman helped draft the text, and McCain sent the letter. Several weeks later — the day after McCain used Paxson’s jet to fly to Florida for a fundraiser — McCain wrote another letter. FCC chair William Kennard sent a sharp rebuke to McCain, calling the senator’s meddling “highly unusual.” Nonetheless, within a week of McCain’s second letter, the FCC ruled three-to-two in favor of Paxson’s deal.

Following his failed presidential bid in 2000, McCain needed a vehicle to keep his brand alive. He founded the Reform Institute, which he set up as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit — a tax status that barred it from explicit political activity. McCain proceeded to staff the institute with his campaign manager, Rick Davis, as well as the fundraising chief, legal counsel and communications chief from his 2000 campaign.

There is no small irony that the Reform Institute — founded to bolster McCain’s crusade to rid politics of unregulated soft money — itself took in huge sums of unregulated soft money from companies with interests before McCain’s committee. EchoStar got in on the ground floor with a donation of $100,000. A charity funded by the CEO of Univision gave another $100,000. Cablevision gave $200,000 to the Reform Institute in 2003 and 2004 — just as its officials were testifying before the commerce committee. McCain urged approval of the cable company’s proposed pricing plan. As Bradley Smith, the former chair of the Federal Election Commission, wrote at the time: “Appearance of corruption, anyone?”

VERY MUCH SO. I AM WORKING TO IMPROVE ON THAT PERCEIVED FLAW! SMILE

BLACK WOMEN 4 OBAMA

DO YOU LIVE IN A RED STATE OR BLUE STATE? (SPECIFY IF YOU CARE TO)

MY STATE HAS NOT WENT DEMOCRATIC SINCE THE 1960′S IN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT…

IF YOU WANT TO CALL SOMEONE A TERRORIST OR PROMOTE NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES ABOUT A PERSON(SAMBO, MUSLIM) THEN THE RACE CARD IS GOOD?

WHEN A PERSON GETS ARRESTED ,ABUSED, DISRESPECTED OR MISTREATED BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE AND THEY COMPLAIN THEN THE RACE CARD IS BAD?

YOU ARE TOO TRANSPARENT:)

WOULD YOU ALL BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE THREW EGGS AT MY HOUSE LAST WEEK B/C I HAVE A LARGE MCCAIN/PALIN SIGN IN MY FRONT YARD. IT SHOWS OBAMA SUPPORTERS HAVE VERY LITTLE CLASS!!

HAVE YOU ALL SEEN SENATOR MCCAIN’S NEW COMMERCIAL WHERE IT EXPLAINS OBAMA PLANS TO SPEND 1 TRILLION DOLLARS ON TOP OF THE 700 BILLION ALREADY SPENT???

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Senator John McCain was cleared in the KEATING 5 SCANDAL.

I live in a red state. Tennessee.

Actually, no. McCain was criticized for not being more vocal about Michael Keating. You are correct in saying he was not prosecuted-but McCain was criticized for it-and still is.

Black Conservative-

I have a peeve with you. My screen name is not WOMEN. It’s WOMAN. Women is plural. Woman is singular.

YOU ARE MY NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST THEN! REALLY, I SUPPORT MCCAIN, BUT I AM NOT CONFIDENT IN EITHER CANDIDATES ABILITIES. IN A COUNTRY OF OVER 300 MILLION CITIZENS I AM GETTING TIRED OF HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS!

Excuse me, I have to correct myself.

His name is Charles Keating. Not Michael. I confuse the name with the actor. Sorry.

EXCUSE MY TYPING AT THIS POINT. I AM FINISHING UP A LONG DAY AND THE WINE IS CATCHING UP TO ME! SMILE

Right. Well, I am going to go make dinner and study. I’ll be back on the next Obama post.

i cant believe how stupid some of these posters are. it is safe to say some folks are on here to create controversy.

Hispanics play the race card all the time n march n demonstate carrying their own flag if that aint the race cartd i dont know what is.

hey sweet n sour my sauce is still mild how about u just watching my back dude i got eyes back there.

dont smoke stuff when you didnt see who rolled it

Even with all this Obama hype, I still think that McCain is going to win.

I know its late everybody but I come back and respond to this post.

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Black.Woman.4.Barack.&.Joe.Yes.We.Can!(Check me out!)

Selena

You are welcome to post things on John McCain to disporve the things we have presented.

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I do not have posts on John McCain or Obama’s websites. I will, however, talk to my McCain and Obama supporter friends and get back to you.

I am honestly disappointed in all of the comments on here. I guarantee many of you are voting for Obama for one reason and that reason is because he’s black. That shows the ignorance you lack to choose a president based on that. Everything talks about wanting change..change means more than the change of race. I bet if you were polled to give 5 reasons of what Obama stood for, your answers would not be sufficient. I am an African American woman and if I am being honest, both candidates have things to offer and both of them have views I disagree on, but there is no way, I would vote for a president based on the color of his skin, even if he was my own kind. Remember, presidential nominees can promise many things before being in the office, but it does not mean, they can really make it happen. Everyone can talk a good. To the editor of this piece, its very disappointing that you bad mouth McCain all the time…how do you know that everyone that reads your column is a Obama fan? That show’s your ignorance and maturity level.

FYI, TIME magazine, www(dot)time(dot)com, has an interesting piece today, “Does Sarah Palin Have a Pentecostal Problem?,” on Sarah Palin’s religion, and it includes a mention of the video of Pastor Muthee.

Also, CNN’s Campbell Brown had this to say yesterday about McCain’s campaign tactics:

In her “No Bias, No Bull” segment Wednesday night, Campbell Brown pleaded with the McCain campaign to stop what she referred to as “race baiting.”

“It is getting very, very ugly,” Brown said. “Tonight, we are cutting through the bull on the issue of race and this campaign.”

Brown blasted McCain surrogates for injecting race Obama’s race into the campaign narrative by invoking his middle name or referring to him as a terrorist, and she called on McCain to deliver a “much stronger denunciation than a campaign-generated paper statement”:

Look, everybody, we all know that we are in unchartered territory here. Never before has there been an African-American presidential nominee. So without question, race is going to be part of the conversation. Race baiting doesn’t have to be. And yet, it is happening in this campaign.

Also, Esquire, www(dot)esquire(dot)com, has endorsed Obama for president, marking the first time the magazine has endorsed a presidential candidate.

Sydney

Have an interesting read for your perusal:

THOUGHTS FROM CONSERVATIVE DAVID BROOKS ON MONDAY

ON SARAH PALIN:

“[Sarah Palin] represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party. When I first started in journalism, I worked at the National Review for Bill Buckley. And Buckley famously said he’d rather be ruled by the first 2,000 names in the Boston phone book than by the Harvard faculty. But he didn’t think those were the only two options. He thought it was important to have people on the conservative side who celebrated ideas, who celebrated learning. And his whole life was based on that, and that was also true for a lot of the other conservatives in the Reagan era. Reagan had an immense faith in the power of ideas. But there has been a counter, more populist tradition, which is not only to scorn liberal ideas but to scorn ideas entirely. And I’m afraid that Sarah Palin has those prejudices. I think President Bush has those prejudices.”

ON JOE BIDEN:

“”The New York Times columnist also said that the “great virtue” of Palin’s counterpart, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, is that he is anything but a “yes man.”

“[Biden] can’t not say what he thinks,” Brooks remarked. “There’s no internal monitor, and for Barack Obama, that’s tremendously important to have a vice president who will be that way. Our current president doesn’t have anybody like that.”

ON BARACK OBAMA:

Brooks also spent time praising Obama’s intellect and skills in social perception, telling two stories of his interactions with Obama that left him “dazzled”:

“Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I’m getting nowhere with the interview, it’s late in the night, he’s on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he’s cranky. Out of the blue I say, ‘Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?’ And he says, ‘Yeah.’ So i say, ‘What did Niebuhr mean to you?’ For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr’s thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he’s a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, ‘David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you’re only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.’ And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.”

Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points, and said that although he found Obama to be “a very mediocre senator,” he was is surrounded by what Brooks called “by far the most impressive people in the Democratic party.”

“He’s phenomenally good at surrounding himself with a team,” Brooks said. “I disagree with them on most issues, but I am given a lot of comfort by the fact that the people he’s chosen are exactly the people I think most of us would want to choose if we were in his shoes. So again, I have doubts about him just because he was such a mediocre senator, but his capacity to pick staff is impressive.”

Hey, Marquis! Thanks!

When you have a chance, can you check out the Rolling Stone article on McCain, “Make-Believe Maverick?” It’s a long read, but very informative and insightful.

Hey, Marquis! Thanks!

Oops, sorry for the double posts.

Obama know he wanted to give him a gud one. he aint smiling, put his lips is pursed tight

Obama thinking >Yea u smilin now, wait till later.<

McCain is going to WIN!!!

OBAMA said knock you out!!!!

Good comment Tanya!!

Obama is certainly the most liberal member of Congress. If you want the government to stand between you and your doctor; then Obama is your man.

Why doesn’t Obama ever answer tough questions instead of talking mumbo jumbo.

Cindy McCain is cold as ice. She’s not going to shake anybody’s hand and all that Botox keeps her face from showing expression. Sad!

Obama 08″ YES WE CAN!!!!!

I can’t stand McCain but please don’t call him albino. I’m albino and he ain’t one of us!

@Leroy, why not let Palin answer tough questions? this broad is a true joke, all she can do is dodge questions as we’ve seen time and time again and spew hatred as we’ve heard this week at various rallies, how as a black person can you align with that garbage?? it’s obivous you’re voting for the repubs by your comments.

@AzzedineAliaFan

What do you mean she’s a true joke? I mean she so happens to be a governor. Plus, she’s not spewing hatred; but rather being quite truthful. Obama’s character needs to be evaluated; don’t you think?

@ Leroy

I would suggest that Palin AND McCain’s characters need to be further evaluated. Palin has already proven herself a liar, and she is also going out of her way to stall an investigation into her alledged abuses of power as gov. of Alaska. If she doesn’t have anything to hide, why not cooperate?

As AzzedineAliaFan said, she’s a “joke” because she is clearly out of her league. She avoided the media for weeks because she couldn’t answer difficult questions about foreign policy and domestic issues without studying and/or practicing with a coach. What was up with the “I may not answer the questions like you want me to answer them but I what I will do is speak to the American people” statement that she made during the debate? The answer: BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T HAVE THE ANSWERS!! She is NOT presidential in any way, shape, or form. THAT is why she is a joke.

Furthermore, McCain isn’t as squeaky clean as the Repubs would like to believe. Since they want to focus on Obama’s judgment or lack thereof, then both of them could stand to take a good look in the mirror.

And for the record, Palin isn’t evaluating Obama’s character. She is blatantly casting aspersions upon it. Palin knows damn well that Obama is not a terrorist and was not affiliated with Ayers actions. They are intentionally trying to sway voters who don’t know any better, and sadly, they will probably garner a small amount of votes because ignorance loves company!

What baffles me is that Cindy McCain has the nerve to state that Obama’s campaign is running the “dirtiest campaign in history!” She needs to turn over and look at that “that one” that sleeps next to her at night because McCain/Palin are amongst the dirtiest candidates up for office that I have seen in a long time!

When Obama loses this election, he should apologize for running in the first place. He instilled false hope in people. He is so unqualified and shady. And the media isn’t helping either.

@trl

By the way, Palin never lied. She no doubt stumbled though. Did you not know that the interview by Couric lasted for hours and the media only played the part in which she stumbled. FYI; no one is perfect not even Obama. The media is so on Obama’s side. Obama lied to the American people about his association with Ayers and a whole host of other subjects like Public Financing. This election is about Obama and McCain; not Palin/Biden. But again, why can’t Obama just be truthful.

Another point, people should not be cohersed into registering to vote. That is every individuals own choice. Why is the Obama campaign relentlessly cohersing people to go out and register to vote. I mean, if he’s so inspiring and all that then people should not need any cohersing to go out and register to vote.

@ Leroy

Oh yes “Leroy”…Palin has told numerous lies. She lied by stating that she “said no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere” when she actually publically supported it (while running for governor) until the public outcry against the extravagant expense. In actuality, she never had a chance to say “no thanks” to the bridge to nowhere because Congress killed the project and assigned that money to Alaskan transportation projects before she could get a word in edgewise!

She also claims that she “cut earmark spending” when in fact, as Alaska’s governor, she has requested millions of dollars in earmark spending for Alaska’s budget…which is among the highest in the union when you consider the state’s meager number of residents compared to more populous states.

I also have others….if you’re interested.

Obama has explained the Ayers connection more than once, so there is no point in me addressing it with you. But since you want to talk about truth, I propose that Palin and McCain need to be truthful and fess up to the truth about a LOT of lies that they have told over the course of the last few weeks.

Like Rozza said: “you can’t sling mud while wearing a white suit” because you’re going to get dirty. This notion of the importance of truth that you’re emphasizing works both ways.

Good points. But Palin did not lie during the interview which was what I was addressing. And just because she may have requested millions in earmark spending for her state does not mean that the spending went up. In fact, the earmarks could have gone down compared to previous fiscal years for that state. Did you know that earmark spending (pork) only account for roughly 10 percent of the US Federal Budget. This issue is not really what is important in this election; but yeah give me some more ‘lies’ so I can set it straight.

@ Leroy

Believe it or not, I know quit a bit about earmark spending. My point was she lied…period. In addition, I feel as if it would be pointless to go over the numerous lies that Palin and McCain have told over the course of the last few months because I have a feeling that you already know…but you’re a staunch McCain supporter so you won’t admit it. However, just for giggles and grins, I will name a few:

1. McCain is a straight up lie when he says that he’s an agent for change. McCain voted with Bush 100% of the time in 2008 and 95% of the time in 2007. How is that change? Yeah he’s a real “maverick.”

2. McCain has claimed that he has received “every award from every veteran’s organization” for his service. That’s just a bold faced lie. In fact, he was given a 20% approval rating from the Disabled veterans of America due to the fact that he voted against funds for Disabled veterans. The Vietnam Veterans of America and the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans for America have also expressed distain for McCain as well.

3. Both McCain and Palin have repeatedly lied by asserting that Obama will increase our taxes. 95% of Americans will not see an increase in their taxes. Those who make more than 250,000 a year will not be affected. This includes most small businesses as well, since most small businesses do not make up more than 250,000 a year.

4. The McCain campaign lied when they said that “Obama wanted to teach kindergartners about sex before they learn how to read.” Liar Liar!! Obama wanted to educate kids to keep them from child molesters and rapists, not provide detailed sex education.

5. The McCain campaign stated that Obama was responsible for high fuel prices. Don’t even get me started.

6. McCain’s campaign stated that Obama wouldn’t go see the troops while he was in Germany because he wasn’t allowed to bring cameras and therefore, he wouldn’t get the publicity. That is also a flat out lie. Obama stated that he never intended to take cameras, and in fact, Obama had already visited other troops in Germany without cameras a few days before!

So Leroy, like I said… the McShames have numerous lies that they should answer for. Remember that notion of truth? Believe me, there is SO MUCH more that I can list, but I am weary of typing….and like I said…I am willing to bet that you are already aware of all of the lies, you just don’t care because you’re voting for the McShames anyway.

You are right about one thing: this election is not about any of aforementioned issues that we have previously discussed. That also goes both ways…this election is not about the purported Obama-Ayers connection either.

@trs

John McCain is a maverick not because he is an agent of change; but because he knows how to reach across the aisle to get things done. At least he has a record of reaching out to democrats to get legislation done.

Second, McCain did not vote for certain bills because they were loaded down with earmarks [as stated in the second debate].

Third, Obama was out shooting 3pointers in Iraq instead of talking to our troops. Apparently, he enjoys being the center of attention and being Mr. Popular. McCain does not do what is popular; he does what is right.

Fourth, Obama cannot admit that he was wrong about the surge being a success. He is stubborn and won’t admit to mistakes.

Fifth, Obama will fine you if you do not have health insurance. I mean, what is this? That will hurt the most financially deprived Americans. So much for caring about the American people. He won’t even be able to pay for his health care plan now since we’ve bailed out Wall Street with $700 billion.

Sixth, Obama will increase our taxes. Where do you think the money for his health plan is supposed to come from?

@trs

Most small businesses may not make more than 250,000 per year but the businesses that employ a majority of our workforce do make more that 250K.

So Obama’s tax increase on those business will cause job loss. This is not the time to levy taxes on the segment of our society that create jobs. Any I enjoyed your comments and arguments. You’re a studied debater and this is the type of reasonable dialogue we need in this country.

@ Leroy

*Sigh*

Anyone can claim to be a “maverick.” Just because McCain worked across party lines and cooperated with democrats does not make him an agent for “change.” This is especially true when he has wallowed in the pigstye that is the Bush Administration for 90% of the last 8 years and voted with Bush 90% of the time!!! How is that change? Republicans and Democrats in the House and Senate just worked together to pass this bs bailout bill. So are they all “mavericks” now? Gimme a break.

So Obama played basketball in Iraq. Big deal. That’s not even relevant.

Obama has gone on record as saying that “the surge has worked better than we could have imagined.” How is that NOT admitting that the surge was a success? Sorry, but you’re way off with that one.

Or is it that you just want to hear someone say “I was wrong?” When has McCain admitted to being wrong about anything in this election?

I am not going to go there with you about Obama raising taxes because I have already listed Obama’s stance on taxes. You chose to ignore it and coast on the Republican’s viw of Obama’s tax plan instead.

Every American should have health insurance. McCain voted against the child health insurance policy act and stated in the debate that health care was a “responsibility.” Like Obama, I believe that health care is a “RIGHT.” That is one of many reasons that I am voting for Obama on Nov 4th.

“Leroy,” We’re not going to agree on much of anything, so we need not go back and forth debating our candidates’s stance on these issues.

I am still voting for Obama and you’re still going to vote for McCain, so we’ll see what happens Nov. 4th!

It is clear that you have made your choice. I’ve made mine as well. We’ll see what happens on Nov 4th.

LEROY—

I’m sorry to tell you “my friend”…that your facts are invalid. They are straight out of the republican playbook. Do you make more than $250k annually? If not…no tax increase boo boo. Should taxes be increased for those making $250k or highly…yes they should. Why? Because the American tax system is old and unfair. Making 80k—I shouldn’t have to pay more taxes than someone that earns $180k…it’s simply ridiculous!!!The SURGE—-that was a tactic and not a strategy “my friend” and it should have been. So a tactical measure is much harder to measure…vs a strategy—let me remind you…there shouldn’t have been a SURGE in the first place. We have NO business in IRAQ!!!! Parents who choose not to insure their children when it’s going to be practically super cheap to have health insurance—-should be fined. Either sign your child up for the CHIP—Children’s Health Insurance Program which is like $15 a month or less or be fined or become a charity case to our fragile hospital system.

McCain is not innocent when it comes to pork-spending…he himself has asked for millions of dollars too. That whole notion about Obama shooting hoops but not seeing the troops are a smear and lies by the dishonest GOP…you followers are like wired robots that will jump off the cliff if lead to it by McBush…what a shame. I need you to do a little more research and not believe all that is fed to you.

@ Leroy

Are we not already losing jobs under Bush’s tax cuts?

Thanks for the kudos. I appreciate you conversing without name calling or hurling insults. You have good points as well, but we just don’t see eye to eye about many things. However, that’s part of what’s so wonderful about this great country. It provides us the freadom of speech and affords us this opportunity to speak our minds and vote for the candidate of our choice.

We’re worlds apart on the issues but we’re both great Americans.

God Bless,

TRS

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@ Mahogany

Girl you’re a mess. You know you was wrong for calling Leroy “boo-boo.” LOL girl!!

Good point about the CHIP program and the fine…I never thought about that.

McCain gotta strong face and a spiral HAM for a head

Anyone can claim to be a “maverick.”

Joey Biden put it best ‘You can’t claim to be a maverick when all you have been is a sidekick.’

John McCain himself has said he has voted with Bush OVER 90% of the time. Now, he and Miss Sarah wants to remove himself from that association-but 8 years is hard to forget!

I’m outraged about your racist title. you can be so racist against whites but whites can’t be racist. is so much hate on this postings. I was just here by accident.bye!!!!!!!!