Jesus Take The Wheel
Posted by Bossip Staff
A report by Livesteez tells how this 17 year old kid is going down hard:
Donyea Phillips, a 17-year-old runaway was sentenced to 25-50 years in prsion for shooting and wounding two Philadelphia drug officers. Phillips, who was homeless at the time, was squatting with a cousin in the East Frankford rooming house when the officers served a search warrant at the house a year ago. Phillips, a suspected crack dealer who pleaded guilty in July to two counts of attempted murder and related charges, apologized to Officers Christopher Reed and Stephen Holts. Phillips insisted to Common Pleas Court Judge Glenn B. Bronson that he did not know police were trying to come through the door when he blindly fired through a window Nov. 13.”I was afraid for my life,” Phillips told Bronson, adding, “All I’m just asking is not to lock me up and throw away the key, because I’m changed.” The prison term drew gasps from some of the dozen relatives in court to support Phillips because it’s above the 5- to 10-year minimum recommended under state sentencing guidelines. However, it was also less than the 32-1/2 to 65 years requested by the prosecuting attorney. “I think this sentence was clearly excessive,” said defense attorney James A. Lammendola. He said he would file a motion asking the judge to reconsider the sentence. Explaining his sentence, the judge credited Phillips with accepting responsibility by pleading guilty and acknowledged his grim upbringing: “You had a horribly deprived childhood, there’s no doubt about that,” Bronson said.
If this doesn’t read a failed support system for a child, then we don’t know what does. This will become more and more prevalent if there isn’t better representation for the Black youth. SMH
Read the full Livesteez story here.
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while i have no sympathy for pigs when they get shot, i don’t understand how this boy was homeless, yet there was “a dozen relatives” in court to support him? what was he doing homeless at 17 if he had “a dozen relatives”?
Wow, I actually agree with Bossip!
What a sad story. It really is. My prayers go out to him and his family.
L…
Whats good in yo hood?
They were probably those “fair weather” relatives who only come around for sentencing hearings, when you win the lottery, or to “hit you up” for some cash to hold them until the first.
***** THAT, HE WAS A CRACK DEALER killing his own – the sentence should stay! suck pipe and die drug dealer
while i have no sympathy for pigs when they get shot, i don’t understand how this boy was homeless, yet there was “a dozen relatives” in court to support him? what was he doing homeless at 17 if he had “a dozen relatives”?
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DAYG715,
You hit the nail right on the head. If these people cared so much about him, why was he on the streets? Then again, for all we know he could have worn out his welcome everywhere he went, and there weren’t anymore chances.
“no sympathy for pigs” — ignorant *****
so if i’m understanding this correctly…….. he got the additional time because he shot cops; if he had just shot regular folks then he would have gotten the other more lenient (but still pretty long) sentence. Right?
as for everybody in the courtroom supporting him, where the ***** were they when he was homeless out on the street??!
Yes, he was wrong for selling crack. I don’t endorse that. But he is 17. Where were his parents? Who introduced him to this lifestyle.
This kid is looking at 50 years in prison. His life is OVER, a kid.
This is really depressing.
Hey peeps. TGIF!!! I’m from Philly and while this guy’s sentence seems excessive, people have to realize that thugs have been killing cops in Philly on the regular. So they’re setting a precendent with this guy so people will think twice about shooting at cops in this city. Noone’s childhood is perfect,but that’s no excuse for shooting (randomly) at anyone. I can’t feel but so bad for this guy.
@Norwood wrote, ” “no sympathy for pigs” — ignorant *****”
Frankly, I don’t give blanket sympathy to cops, either. Too many instances of folks getting a badge and a complex along with the badge, to the detriment of citizens. They deserve nothing. HOWEVER it hasn’t been determined whether or not these were just cops doing their jobs or if they were dirty themselves. So on that point, it is foolish to say a blanket ***** the pigs.
Should people who shoot cops get a higher sentence then people who shoot regular folk?
sad story ,for the cops that died and him
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This is sad, But also a testament to the lack of available resources in OUR community. Because where a white dysfunctional family fails, their community picks up the slack. The system failed this kid, he needed help long before this i’m sure……..
NU…
Bossip always hatin on Philly…always posting the crazy stuff…I wanna know what goes down in the other hoods, Chi, D, Compton, D.C….Where ever!
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This is sad, But also a testament to the lack of available resources in OUR community. Because where a white dysfunctional family fails, their community picks up the slack. The system failed this kid, he needed help long before this i’m sure…….
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I agree 100%.
L…
Im glad they dont pit stop here…Id have a lotta splain’n to do….
I don’t know what to say, on one hand I feel sorry for this guy, I really do because he sounds like he really did not mean to blatantly shoot @ the cops, but on the other hand who knows what would have happened if he only got 5 years, got out when he was 22?? He may not have learned his lesson that fast…I just don’t know with this story…his life is still not over though, he can still make good of it.
NU…
tee hee & smh….
He, for some reason, reminds me of the kid from the Wire who ends up shootin up at the end. This is a sad story, think of how many innocent people the police have shot and not be sentenced to one day for it. This country truly is fu*#ed up. I’m moving to Canada, anyone got a parka?
Donyea Phillips, a 17-year-old runaway was sentenced to 25-50 years in prsion for shooting and wounding two Philadelphia drug officers. Phillips, who was homeless at the time, was squatting with a cousin in the East Frankford rooming house when the officers served a search warrant at the house a year ago.
Phillips, a suspected crack dealer who pleaded guilty in July to two counts of attempted murder and related charges, apologized to Officers Christopher Reed and Stephen Holts. Phillips insisted to Common Pleas Court Judge Glenn B. Bronson that he did not know police were trying to come through the door when he blindly fired through a window Nov. 13.
“I was afraid for my life,” Phillips told Bronson, adding, “All I’m just asking is not to lock me up and throw away the key, because I’m changed.” The prison term drew gasps from some of the dozen relatives in court to support Phillips because it’s above the 5- to 10-year minimum recommended under state sentencing guidelines. However, it was also less than the 32-1/2 to 65 years requested by the prosecuting attorney.
“I think this sentence was clearly excessive,” said defense attorney James A. Lammendola. He said he would file a motion asking the judge to reconsider the sentence.
Explaining his sentence, the judge credited Phillips with accepting responsibility by pleading guilty and acknowledged his grim upbringing: “You had a horribly deprived childhood, there’s no doubt about that,” Bronson said.
Kirk Heilbrun, a forensic psychologist hired by Phillips’ defense, testified that Phillips was the oldest of six children. Heilbrun said Phillips experienced mental and physical abuse by his parents and was largely responsible for caring for his siblings.
But the judge said Phillips’ background did not excuse the fact that he was squatting in a house, selling crack cocaine and spending $100 a day for marijuana.
“Sadly, other people have been in similar situations, but they don’t hole themselves up in a crack house and fire a gun at police officers,” Bronson said.
Reed, 32, a 12-year-veteran officer, was shot through the left thigh. He testified yesterday that the wound became infected and that he underwent six surgeries. After two weeks in the hospital, Reed said, he was sent home but was restricted to bed for two months. He returned to active duty May 15.
Holts, 40, a 13-year department veteran, said a bullet fragment hit his right hip and tore away a two-inch piece of flesh that could not be closed with sutures. He returned to duty in February.
Both officers said they were pleased with the sentence.
“I wouldn’t want anyone else to go through something like this,” said Reed. “I know it will be with me until the day I get buried.”
“It was an awesome experience – and I hope I don’t experience anything like that again,” added Holts.
That shyt is messed up but you know when it come to shooting cops and murdering cops they don’t play that shyt and they are charging 17 year olds like they are adults. Y’ALL NEED TO WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
Thank you, IJM, for posting the full story. Spin much, Bossip?
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Hey Oshie….how r u doing 2day?
oshie whats up
@Laurn aka Philly and I’m Just me…Hello ladies. It’s been a minute.
Hey IJM, I’m ok.. just waiting for groceries to go down along with the oil prices. You?
IJM…
Hey!! What it do??
OHHHH Lawdy, I tried to do that thing for you this morning but my husband wouldn’t get off the computer doing his stupid fantasy football *****. I’ll try to get on later if I go home.
Wonder where the dozen or so relatives protesting his sentence were were when he was homeless?
It definitely takes a VILLAGE.
Hey I’mJustMe and errrrrbody else!! TGIF!!!
not surprised. it’s the systematic eradication of black males. this dude was lunchin’ and needs to serve some time, but 25-50 years for wounding two people? for a minor??? GTFOH. it’s only because his name is donyea and not dustin.
also, cops’ lives are not more precious than anyone else’s. if anything, putting themselves in the way of danger is part of the job description. so i don’t understand why people catch bigger charges for victimizing them. that’s bu!!sh#t.
Southern Belle…hey hun! How’s school and the lil girl doin?
@Lauren…its going great and we are both very well. How about you and school and your little one? Are we married yet?
I co-sign with sweet_lies, with a sharpie.
He’s really gonna need that styrofoam cup with him. Lost on the ro-o-o-ad, he not gonna be in no rush anytime soon. Black males are endangered species all because of the cops.
Southern, That’s good mamma…babygirl is good she’ll be 4 this month and I am expecting another lil one in about 5 weeks!…yes we got married too! How about you?
…….ioono what to say…….
Giants are gonna beat the ***** outta whomever we play for the rest of the season. the dallas cowgirls get the eff outta here, eagles, redskins, whomever… bounce *****s.
@Lauren…Girl I am so happy for you! We are getting married next month. We had to get that marriage councling out of the way first. Trying to do it right you know! What are you having?
No hope in that lil man eyes and he so young. America i ask did you ever give him the dream?
Southern…
I know that’s right, it’s never too late to do stuff right…I’m having a another lil girl!
So sad… Another one lost to the streets. Families need to come together not just when there is a funeral or in this case when the sh*t hits the fan.
BOSSIP… I don’t think they need “better representation” I think they need to get it together. Sad situation.
@Laurn…congrats girl! Have a great day. I have to go to cl***** so I will probably hollar on Monday. Take care!!!
When I read about his firing blindly out the window, I thought to myself what if there were children out there playing?
How many other people has he used his gun on and never got caught?
The sentence is just – it protects us and our innocent children from a bad seed.
Unbelievable…
Glad he received such a severe sentence…I hope he serves the max…DUMB JACK*****…and his lipgloss looks cutting!
WHY PHILLY, WHY?????????
IJM, thanks for the full story…I rescind part of my original comment.
My dad and four of my uncles are police officers so I automatically take offense to the pig statements. Although it’s true that racial profiling and inequalities do exist, Black America must accept responsibility for the lawlessness in our communities and misguided youth running lose in the streets. I volunteered with a few charities in South Florida for a years. There were many success stories, but I ended getting more disgusted in the end. It just seems like we are lost.
Oh good Lord!!
Here we go again where a drug dealing – crime mentality black male makes a consciense decision to shoot a most likely unregistered gun at two officers of the law only doing their jobs yet its the fault of everyone around him.. I’m sure from the judges comments alone that it was all blamed on his mother – a black woman – when she probably did all she could and worked her ***** off to give the *****ing criminal all she could and it STILL wasn’t good enough for this little *****.. Once again the black woman takes the fall for the black males *****ed up criminal decisions.. Yet I’m pretty damn sure the sorry ***** father wasnowhere in his life yet manages, as usual, to get off SCOTT FREE!! Sistas, no matter how hard they try, just never get a break when it comes to the black male..
I think he should have gotten life even though the cops didn’t die…
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also, cops’ lives are not more precious than anyone else’s. if anything, putting themselves in the way of danger is part of the job description. so i don’t understand why people catch bigger charges for victimizing them. that’s bu!!sh#t.
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OK…PLAYING DEVIL’S ADVOCATE HERE…but do you think they should do away with the laws about hate crimes as well? There are whites who argue that hate crime sentencing should not even exist since all crimes of violence are essentially ‘hateful’ in nature.
This whole story to me is just another of THOUSANDS where the system fails Blacks on a whole. Yeah I know it sounds cliche but hear me out…
It starts with the school systems, welfare benefits, employment etc. UNTIL things are changed there will be little advancement. Even if we made some minor changes in how we deal with criminals while in jail I think we’d notice a decrease in repeat offenders and decrease in our tax monies going to house and feed these offenders.
How is it that we spend the most money in THE WORLD on our school systems yet lag behind so many other countries as far as academic achievments? It’s because the monies spent are not distributed evenly and fairly. THEN when the kids who suffer from a loss of education, medical care and financial care are put out into the real world we expect them to funtion the same as those who didn’t suffer this way. IT IS NOT REALISTIC.
People can blame Blacks all they want for the state of Black America and yes we do have a part in our destiny but you cannot deny that our government has a hand in how things have played out for the last few centuries too. Racial profiling, disparities in school funding, voter registration fraud, loan denials, wrongful incarcerations, intentional family separation for welfare benefits, gl***** ceilings etc. HAVE ALL AFFECTED BLACK AMERICANS MORE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY. You can’t expect a group who has been systematically discriminated against for the last two centuries to just up and recover in the last 50 years ESPECIALLY when the some of the same discriminatory activities still exist. However we are approaching a new age and things are actually looking up for us as new Black businesses have grown by 40%, more Blacks are in college now than ever before, and we even have a half Black presidential candidate running. Please keep positive and try to help your brothers and sisters to keep positive as well.
He shot 2 people, cops or not. He’s a crack head and a crack dealer. Sounds to me like the punishment fits the crime. Black or white-it doesn’t really matter-why try to turn this into a racial issue? Would it make a difference if the cops were black or white? I enjoy Bossis, I log on everyday, but why do you always have to try and start *****??
Was this gorilla eating powdered Dunkin Donuts
Sad sad sad…
Hey Aunt Viv, and everyone else:-) TGIF!!!
I commented on this story earlier & having read other remarks, let me reiterate: as a Philly native, despite WHATEVER problems this guy faced as a child, HE CHOSE to sell crack and live an unlawful existence. Drug-dealing and other shady lifestyles makes people paranoid, and that’s why he said he shot at those policemen. Regardless of the reason, he HAS to go to jail. He could’ve shot me, one of my relatives, or any other DECENT, INNOCENT person who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Add that to the fact that Philly’s police force is sick of burying their own, killed at the hands of so-called thugs like this one. If there hadn’t been so many officers killed so often in this city, I doubt his sentence would’ve been so harsh. But what’s the alternative? Slap him on the wrist, give him a 2nd chance so he’ll get out & do the SAME *****–or worse–again??? Yes I too am black and proud but I’m not for the b-s-. None of us grew up in perfect cir*****stances but breaking the law is a CHOICE. This dude–like so many others, made the wrong one and he has to pay for that. One less fool I have to look over-my-shoulder at when I’m off to work in the A.M….
I just did some research on this young man, and this story makes me want to cry. This is from a Philadelphia Daily News article from May. His life was horrific:
The teen’s maternal grandmother, Susan Gavin, told a reporter that Phillips’ parents are first cousins. He was born to her daughter, Josette Phillips, and to her sister’s son, Willie James Taylor, she said.
“For one thing, they had no business having that baby,” Gavin said. She said she had tried to get custody of Phillips and his siblings, but her daughter “made it so I couldn’t get the kids.”
Gavin, Shirley Phillips and Donyea’s aunt, Terry Press, described an unstable, horrid life that the teen faced since childhood: living with a mother who was never around, then put into foster homes by the Department of Human Services, after which DHS put him in the custody of his father. (His parents lived apart.)
“His parents, to me, they just don’t care,” said Press, who is the teen’s mother’s sister.
She added that when Phillips lived his early years with his mother on Memphis Street near Cambria, Port Richmond, the mother would run around and do whatever she wanted to, leaving Phillips to take care of his siblings.
DHS took the kids before Phillips turned 10, they said, and put him in multiple foster homes. When he turned 13 or 14, he went to live with his father on Woolston Avenue, near Eastburn, West Oak Lane, they said.
The father, who was not in court, told the Daily News last year that his son ran away from his home about two months before the shooting incident because he didn’t want to abide by “normal, basic rules of a home,” including “no drugs.”
On Nov. 13, Phillips, then 16, was allegedly living in and operating a crack house on Orthodox Street, near Josephine, when narcotics officers tried to serve a search warrant. Phillips allegedly responded by firing at the officers, wounding two.
@ realwoman
Well put. Everything you posted bears merit. When you include an unjust justice system that is fueled by the “War on Drugs” (i.e. War on Blacks) then pictures really become clearer. The same state sponsored system that funds education also funds the prison system. Can anybody tell me why more money is spent on law enforcement and prisons in the Black community than on education? Why is is it that about 70% of the drug users in America are Caucasian but the vast majority of funding towards law enforcement in the so called war on drugs is pipelined straight to the Black community? I’m not excusing this young man’s actions but the justice system is notorious for handing out disproportionate sentences when it comes to Black men (especially). The primary way of keeping us out in the “fields”. America (at one time anyway) was supposed to be the most powerful nation in the world, yet we have more of our citizens incarcerated than ANY nation. Take into count that the prison population is majority Black / Latino then you have to ask yourself, “Why the disparity?”. We have to take responsibility for our actions and that begins with knowing what you are up against. Great post Sista.
I see a few things that went wrong here;
1. This kid is obviously the outcome of two ugly people *****in’
2. When the police searched him, they didnt see that package of powdered donuts in his pocket?
3. Obviously the water was turned off in his crackhouse, the ***** looks like he washes his face with Wesson Oil.
4. Even gay *****s will think this **********a is ugly.
5. This ***** looks like he won the “Beanie seigel ugliest ***** in philadelphia lookalike contest”
love 6am
The prison system in this nation is a huge industry, and, unfortunately, incarceration is a persistent, troubling issue in our community.
But what really strikes me about Phillips’ case is this is a story that is being repeated across the nation — a child who, under better cir*****stances, could have had a different life. There are too many kids today who are falling through the cracks, suffering abuse and neglect (and the foster care system is notoriously horrible for black children), and winding up in juvenile detention, prison, and, sometimes, lose their lives. I have felt for a while that we’re in danger of losing a generation of young people.
There are children being raised in such dysfunction that their lives are mapped out for failure. They are full of rage and hopelessness, and that leads to destructive behavior, including drug use and crime.
Sadly, tragically, I think there are a number of Donyeas in the world.
SEAN BELL WAS INOCENT TOO!
@ sydney,
This kids life was done when his ghetto ***** momma named him Donyea, wtf is that *****? I looked in the baby names book both african and american, ***** aint in there. You can tell he’s gangbangin’
I mean just typing his name makes me wanna type “guilty” right behind it!
good morning everyone!
Its6am
You hilarious. Whats more funny is, your probably black.
@6am
According to the news article I read (excerpt posted above), this teen’s parents are related, so this was a completely dysfunctional environment for him and his siblings.
I think that beyond his name and activities, this case is an example of the disturbing reality for some of our children. They’re not being given the guidance or opportunities for success, or even the love and security that all children need. This is a significant issue.
Also, to give you an idea of how big the prison industry is in this nation, here are some figures from a recent New York Times article:
The United States has less than 5 percent of the world’s population. But it has almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners. Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.
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The United States has, for instance, 2.3 million criminals behind bars, more than any other nation, according to data maintained by the International Center for Prison Studies at King’s College London. China, which is four times more populous than the United States, is a distant second, with 1.6 million people in prison. (That number excludes hundreds of thousands of people held in administrative detention, most of them in China’s extrajudicial system of re-education through labor, which often singles out political activists who have not committed crimes.)
@ sydney,
china aint building new prisons because chinese *****s will eat better incarcerated.
@ Jewish Woman (SMDH)
Youre funny too especially since you stopped trying to convince us all 5 of your fake pics are you.
And I know youre a white woman who just happens to be very unattractive.
@6am
I think this is a very serious issue that disproportionately affects our community. There are too many children whose lives appear “done.” This young man lacked a stable environment, was mistreated, and should have received counseling and direction.
It’s extremely evident that from his upbringing, he was almost destined to be in prison. He was failed from birth. Contrary to what ignorant, un-funny 6am thinks, his name was not at all part of his demise. If was the lack of care from his parents and community. Everything is a cause and effect. He is basically a product of his sick, hell hole enviroment. Looking at his beginning, what do you think the chances of him going to a Ivy League school and being productive in his life where? 0-none
He is the ultimate result of a person born to a broken home. It’s not like he came from upstanding parents, received the necessary care, love and attention he needed and deserved, to be a productive man and citizen. It’s a wonder how he made it this far in his life without being dead already.
God Bless him, he is one of millions in America. I also feel if he was a young white man, he would have had recommendations to receive re-habilitation, threapy, and counseling for his trouble up-bringing. Instead of locking him up like a animal.
There are a lot of *****ed up ***** parents out here who have no damn business having kids. This is just the way it is. We all turn our heads and turn our backs,til the ***** hits home. The problem is too big for one person we need the whole community.This includes the schools,churches,descent cops,everybody to help these kids.We don’t need a bunch of marches to no where.We’ve got to stop ***** before it happens. Ask more of our elected officials.SAVE OUR KIDS!!
I have no sympathy for crackheads or crack dealers. For those of you criticizing his relatives for not taking him in, I suggest you step outside your front door, grab a crackhead or crack dealer and welcome him/her into your home….and let the drama begin.
@ Sydney
Thanks for posting the stats. Numbers don’t lie. What is also scary is the fact that many of these prisons are privatized (lead by Marriott) meaning that locking people up for profit is becoming more and more prevelant. These corporations receive X amount of dollars for each prisoner and then in turn “employ” these prioners (under the guise of teaching a trade for rehabilitation) for slave wages. Stay at a Marriott hotel and the chances are good that the chair you sit on or the bed you lay in was crafted by a prisoner for next to nothing. Meanwhile, like I said, Marriott is receiving profitable income just to house this same priosner. Do the math. Numbers don’t lie.
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@IlluminateTruth
Sure, this is a disturbing, and burgeoning, issue that affects all of us. I found more figures from the Sentencing Project, www(dot)sentencingproject(dot)org on incarceration rates among black men. According to the site, if current trends continue, one out of every three black males born today can expect to go to prison.:
More than 60% of the people in prison are now racial and ethnic minorities. For Black males in their twenties, 1 in every 8 is in prison or jail on any given day. These trends have been intensified by the disproportionate impact of the “war on drugs,” in which three-fourths of all persons in prison for drug offenses are people of color.
I think this is the catch 22 that alot of Black Males are involved in. Many are from broken homes, little guidance because the parents are all messed up. So he learns to survive by the only way he knows selling drugs. Yes, there are other alternatives and I know many young black men who rise above their situation there are so many who don’t because they don’t know how and no one ever taught them any differently.
The excessive sentence is just a testiment to how disposable black lives are in the eyes of the law. The judge does not beleive he can learn and become a productive citizen and because he is black noone cares.
yes he made the decision and he should pay but part of the judicial system is to rehabilitate and how can you do that when the chances of you ever getting out of jail before you are 60 is slim
What a shame…shame on the parents (mother and father) for not taking care of their child and giving him the correct guidance.
@IlluminateTruth
I wasn’t aware of the Mariott link, by the way. Thanks for the info. Below are more stats from a NY Times story in May on the racial gap in drug arrests:
In 2006, according to federal data, drug-related arrests climbed to 1.89 million, up from 1.85 million in 2005 and 581,000 in 1980.
More than four in five of the arrests were for possession of banned substances, rather than for their sale or manufacture. Four in 10 of all drug arrests were for marijuana possession, according to the latest F.B.I. data.
Apart from crowding prisons, one result is a devastating impact on the lives of black men: they are nearly 12 times as likely to be imprisoned for drug convictions as adult white men, according to the Human Rights Watch report.
Others are arrested for possession of small quantities of drugs and later released, but with a permanent blot on their records anyway.
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Hello SxyQ, BE
Yes, disproportionate sentencing is forever affecting the lives of millions of black men, many of whom do come from dysfunctional backgrounds that include abuse, abandonment, time in foster care, lack of education (I believe illiteracy is an issue for some), and other issues that would damage anyone’s psyche. Often, they lack the resources or awareness to rise above their cir*****stances, and, so, their cir*****stances dictate the destructive path their lives may take.
It’s far too easy for those of us who happen to come from stable backgrounds to turn a blind eye to the conditions that have led to the destruction of so many lives. If you’ve never given the tools for success, the likelihood that success will elude you is great.
Sydney
Your stats are excellent. LOL.
@ nina knows
You are so correct. We are often labeled as animals without any consideration to mitigating cir*****stances. Judges are free to consider them in sentencing but for whatever reason this judge did not and on top of that, surp*****ed the guidelines of sentencing when he handed out a 25-50 year sentence. This young Brotha hasn’t had a fair chance from birth and now he never will get one. There is plenty of blame to p***** around in this case (starting with his dysfunctional family and ending with his own actions) but why not, under the cir*****stances, a 10-20 year sentence (PA state guidelines) therefore giving him a chance at life. He was only working with the tools he was given. Sad but true. Great post.
Listen to sephia,
yall know damn well you cant redeem some of these lil *****s, sydney I’ll stop bashin’ them if you can show me one case of you taking one of these lil violent **********as and turning his life around, this lil ***** blasted on two cops, you cant tell me he didnt know who they were.
@ nina knows,
Of course his name is ghetto as ***** and thats because his momma was ghetto as *****, his father was criminal as *****, they decided to *****, his life is *****ed because he *****ed around and *****ed up two cops, so wtf? why wasnt this lil *****head in school instead of the *****in’ crack spot? Oh once youre caught and youre facing life now you wanna redeem yourself? get the ***** outta here! I know plenty of poor kids, way poorer than this ***** and they aint never sold a rock or blasted on anyone, so stop making excuses for these lil *****s!
At some point people need to stop blaming their childhood for their actions. A lot of people out there didn’t grow up in the most stable homes, but they don’t go out and become criminals either. Growing up with the worst should make you strive for the best, and at the end of the day we all know right from wrong. I’m sick and tired of people excusing these sorry punks that are destroying the black community.
@ Illuminate Truth
Yes he was only working with the tools given, how was he suppose to rise out of his situation. Looking at this young man’s beginning it was very easy to speculate about how his future ending would be.
Your post was good as well…..
You know there are so many lighter subject threads on here, I’m sure some of the “shout outs” and “1st” could have been better appreciated elsewhere. Some people cant never take the clown shoes off I guess, or maybe they just dont give a *****. hmmmmm
You dont wanna go to jail for sellin’ drugs? dont sell drugs!
@ sydney
Thanks for the stats (again). I love numbers. I’m going to check out the website. Thanks again.
Thanks trish, yall need to read what we’re typing, because of these lil *****s you cant walk to the store at 11pm if you get hungry, they are *****in’ up your neighborhoods and you’ll continue to buy that jeezy, rick ross, weezy ***** boppin’ your heads to “how to sell *****e” songs then wonder why these kids are like they are.
thats a dam shame when you be havin hoodhos *****kin they cuzins and be havin babys and *****. All hoodhos need to have they tubes tyed.
6am, the right answers at the right time……….even if you “dont’ wanna hear it.
Its6am and Trish…agreed. If you notice my post says the same thing: yes its sad that this guy had a rough start in life but he chose to keep roughin’ it and I for one don’t feel sorry for him. I don’t claim these kind of folks as ‘my people’ because ‘my people’ know how to survive without hurting people in the process. Someone like this has the means–and the mindset to kill any one of US on any given day so HELLS NAW…no pity here! I’m glad there’s one less criminal on the street.
@ Hot sauce,
Like ive always said, build a plexigl***** cage around the hood, let the decent people out and let the rest ***** each other, sell drugs to each other, kill and *****ault each other, we’ll be on the outside lookin’ in, I’d even pay admission to watch that *****!
Black people are tired, we dont wanna save *****s anymore!
@IlluminateTruth
Sure, I know you don’t post here often, but when you do, it’s always very insightful, and that’s greatly appreciated. I would love to hear more of your thoughts on this issue.
@6am
Just for this thread, can we cease with the “ni**a” references. This is a serious issue. If given the resources, guidance, and attention, I think the lives of more young men and women could be turned around. And, in regards to the young man in question, I don’t know what was going through his head at the moment of his arrest, but from what I read, he was surrounded by dysfunction and despair, and no child should have to live in those cir*****stances. We are the product of our environments, and if your environment is toxic, the likelihood that your life will be adversely impacted is greater.
@6am…..
Ok I dont agree, but I see where your coming from(his “ghetto” name is just your opinion) I’m just saying ok, if he’s a bad little *****er, it dont matter what his name is. That’s all I’m saying. His name could have been Bret Poindexter III and he still could have had the same life and done same *****.
I’m not trying to just make excuses, he did indeed do some *****ed up *****. But damn, did he not come from a *****ed up ***** enviroment. For real, you think if he has better parents and a better upbringing he still would be in this exact situation. I really dont think so. Not saying he wouldnt have did some dumb dishonorable things, but not to this extreme.
I still believe he’s a product of his enviroment.
I like his name!
@ vee and trish,
you’d be surprised how many black people feel the same way we do, this kid wasnt stupid, i bet he could balance the books in that crackhouse! I bet nothing ever came up short!
@ sydney
Nope, he’s a ***** thru and thru, and since when did *****s start calling $10 and $20 bills dysfunction and despair? he was in a crackhouse and thats what youre surrounded by……….
@ nina,
if this hoodlum’s name was bret poindexter III he’d be in school right now……..or sellin’ powder cocaine which carry’s a lesser term and never woulda got him raided!
You guys are trying to defend this lil ***** but i bet his rap sheet is a lot longer than you think, and I know this isnt his first violent offense.
@6am
Do you think these problems are confined to the “hood?” They’re not — there are suburban kids who come from dysfunctional households as well and are engaged in potentially life-altering activities. Yes, cl*****, in particular, poverty, is a factor in these issues, but there’s more at play. There are children lacking guidance and real parenting across cl***** lines, and they’re suffering because of it.
I think we as a community have a damaged foundation. Our family structure is broken, and I believe some of our priorities are misplaced. There are too many people — including kids who can’t take of themselves, much less babies — who are ill-equipped to be parents, and it’s our children who are hurting the most. This is the next generation of adults we’re discussing, and unless we address these issues, generations to come will be impacted.
Donyea? Why dont you just name the ***** 735629 cellblock b, reservations check in 2018 check out 2050?
I dont need to address them, they aint even black people to me, they’re *****s and the best thing we can do for each other is to not be near each other.
***** *****s!
@ sydney, my generation of black people are doing just fine, its the *****s who are failing. Like i said, if you live in the projects and you have a playstation, liquor, cigarettes, nikes, weave, plasma tv, car newer than 2002 and your ***** lives there you aint trying to better yourself!
@Its6am-”I bet he could balance the books in that crackhouse.”
LMAO!!! So true, so true. I’m all for helping people who are TRYING to help themselves. But when you put me and mine at risk…I gots no love for ya.
if you have more than one kid and youve never been married? ***** you too you aint even trying.
@6am
Separating ourselves from the so-called dregs of society isn’t going to solve the problem. Ignoring the high incarceration rates of black men isn’t going to make them disappear (This has been an issue during this campaign because laws vary by state on whether people with felony records can vote). So creating categories of who is acceptable and who isn’t may sound like a short-term fix, but the long-term problem is continuing to fester. There are many young, bright minds that are being wasted and their lives are squandered or ended. That’s a tragedy that affects us all.
realwoman(Check me out!)
This whole story to me is just another of THOUSANDS where the system fails Blacks on a whole. Yeah I know it sounds cliche but hear me out…
It starts with the school systems, welfare benefits, employment etc. UNTIL things are changed there will be little advancement. Even if we made some minor changes in how we deal with criminals while in jail I think we’d notice a decrease in repeat offenders and decrease in our tax monies going to house and feed these offenders.
How is it that we spend the most money in THE WORLD on our school systems yet lag behind so many other countries as far as academic achievments? It’s because the monies spent are not distributed evenly and fairly. THEN when the kids who suffer from a loss of education, medical care and financial care are put out into the real world we expect them to funtion the same as those who didn’t suffer this way. IT IS NOT REALISTIC.
People can blame Blacks all they want for the state of Black America and yes we do have a part in our destiny but you cannot deny that our government has a hand in how things have played out for the last few centuries too. Racial profiling, disparities in school funding, voter registration fraud, loan denials, wrongful incarcerations, intentional family separation for welfare benefits, gl***** ceilings etc. HAVE ALL AFFECTED BLACK AMERICANS MORE THAN ANY OTHER GROUP IN THIS COUNTRY. You can’t expect a group who has been systematically discriminated against for the last two centuries to just up and recover in the last 50 years ESPECIALLY when the some of the same discriminatory activities still exist. However we are approaching a new age and things are actually looking up for us as new Black businesses have grown by 40%, more Blacks are in college now than ever before, and we even have a half Black presidential candidate running. Please keep positive and try to help your brothers and sisters to keep positive as well.
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While I do agree what some of what you say, it starts in the home
Man, make me national welfare commissioner, I’d have 70-80% of all races of *****es kicked off, then it wouldnt pay to ***** without condoms anymore, black people ate before that ***** happened, we’ll keep eating, only thing is *****s will become extinct!
you hoodhos defendin this ***** is just scared cuz this means there be one less ***** out here to be yall next babydaddy. You hoodhos need to get yo head rite.
@ 6am..
whatever I still like the name Donyea!… as sad as your last post was, i’ll admit it was a little funny. But I just think that mentally aids in sterotypes. If he was a lawyer named Donyea, I guess the name wouldnt be preceived as that. idk? maybe people with those names give the names a bad name because of the things they do.
I dont like to name judge. But come on 6am, some people are bad people, no matter what their name is or where their from. Just like sydney said problems dont just exsist in the hood.
True, there probably is a bret poindexter III high on meth right now, getting ready to shoot up his entire high school……. im just saying.
@ sydney,
answer this question for me, if a ***** stopped selling drugs, robbing people and killing, would the black incarceration rate go down?
@6am
OK, now you’re venting out of that “I’ve done the right thing, and you should do the same” frustration. But, guess what, not everyone has the same privileges or resources you have. There are children graduating from high school who can’t even read — how in the world are they going to make something of themselves? They didn’t ask to be here, and we’re failing them. And then we want to throw our hands up and say we want nothing to do with them. That doesn’t work. This issue isn’t going away.
@ nina, yeah but after bret shoots up his high school, the white ***** kills himself, problem solved!
I’d never hire a lawyer named Donyea, unless he got OJ off or had a popular talk show (oprah?)
Why is it whenever a black is sentenced it’s unfair? Did we forget he was a crack dealer? Does it really matter how he grew up? If so, does that give every person with a messed up child hood the right to break the law and then point the blame elsewhere? He’s old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, he knew exactly what he was doing. As someone else pointed out, he was blindly shooting out the window, not at the cops? That’s how little kids and innocent people walking down the street get killed all the time. So it’s okay he wasn’t aiming at the cops? The complaint about the failed system is just another exceuse. Did it ever occur to you it’s not the system but the people breaking the law? It’s no coincidence that the bad areas of the neighborhood that are filled with crime are mostly black. Stop playing the victim and blaming everyone else for you problems. You cry that you want to be trated equal, then step up, take responsibility for yourself and quit taking handouts. Maybe if you applied yourself and worked hard like every other race does, you would have the same lives.
@ sydney, if the ***** cant read why is he graduating? at 13 I knew what i wanted to do, my parents werent always home when i got there, so my sister and I did our homework, made dinner, cleaned the house if needed and waited for our parents and i know a bunch of single parent kids who did the same thing.
No Sympathy for Pigs,you are some ignorant ***** *****es!!! You stupid hoes act as if you read a story that they were trying to kill this *****ing idiot, You stupid *****es are always talking about black youth and the community and other *****, The Police were raiding a crack house STUPID *****ES!!!!! HELLO!!!!!! All you hoes do is sit around and talk ***** about the Police Officers who lay it down on the line for your sorry ***** *****es. Instead of you coward ***** *****es sitting behind your computers in the comfort and safety of your homes why don’t you grow some ***** and get some heart (this goes for the *****es too) put on a badge and police your community. We better be glad that we have people out here to police these *****ing violent criminals out here, cause if we waitied around for you bossip reading ***** thugs to do it we would be in trouble. I can’t stand you coward ***** *****es. His punk ***** better be glad he’s going to prison, cause if it was me who came through that door and got shot, it would have been 1 more dead ***** ***** out here causing problems in the world. ***** all you coward ***** *****es who talk ***** about our troops, police, fire and EMS. Keep reading your bossip hoes thats all your good for anyway
Fed up you sound like a white *****, scram **********a!
Fed up(Check me out!)
Why is it whenever a black is sentenced it’s unfair? Did we forget he was a crack dealer? Does it really matter how he grew up? If so, does that give every person with a messed up child hood the right to break the law and then point the blame elsewhere? He’s old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, he knew exactly what he was doing. As someone else pointed out, he was blindly shooting out the window, not at the cops? That’s how little kids and innocent people walking down the street get killed all the time. So it’s okay he wasn’t aiming at the cops? The complaint about the failed system is just another exceuse. Did it ever occur to you it’s not the system but the people breaking the law? It’s no coincidence that the bad areas of the neighborhood that are filled with crime are mostly black. Stop playing the victim and blaming everyone else for you problems. You cry that you want to be trated equal, then step up, take responsibility for yourself and quit taking handouts. Maybe if you applied yourself and worked hard like every other race does, you would have the same lives.
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Do we know if had a mother or a father to feed him? It does matter how he grew up…A young man will do what he has to do to eat..Now I dont condone him shooting two police officers, the see the negative issues that plagued this young man’s home or lack there of…I mean really he was homeless..
Ms Bossy you sound like a white niggette, scram too ho’
@6am
If that BLACK MAN has access to education and the job training to have access to employment with adequate wages, then, I do believe, that could help some overcome certain obstacles. But I don’t think this is by any means an easy-fix, single-layer issue. There are inmates who come from abusive, broken households and, as a result, encountered barriers and the choices that could have led them down a different road. I think there are various segments of our society that need fixing — our home lives, our schools, our values, etc.
What’s not going to help is throwing up our hands and not confronting the problem at all.
Its6amHoGetOut(Check me out!)
@ nina, yeah but after bret shoots up his high school, the white ***** kills himself, problem solved!
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lol, whatever man, your ***** is a trip. yhea they do end up killing themselves. But I dont feel sorry for bret, he probably did it because he was bored and his mom didnt buy him a *****ing ipod. I think at least Donyea would have did to survive. Now that doesnt make it right. But I never feel sorry when them crazy ***** white people kill themselves, and innocent people, cause their on some acid trip.
sorry maybe I’m biased because I really dont care to deal or *****oicate with whites.
and I WOULD hire a lawyer name Donyea, I think he’ll be like Judge Mathis. anyhoo, we could go all day but all in all I see your point, and for the most part I agree. I just think in THIS CASE he was failed. but there are some kids who are not rich, but still have decent parents with values and morals, and they choose to sell drugs, and live a life of crime. Those are *****s, and I’m not talking about them. I’m talking about the black kids that are failed completely from jump.
@ red,
he wasnt homeless, crackhouse are open 24/7, that homeless ***** came outta his lawyers mouth.
@ 6am, Trish, Vee
I don’t make excuses for him. He deserves time for what he did but it should be proportionate to the crime. There are people who actually commited murder who received a less harsh sentence than this young Brotha. Does his upbringing excuse his actions. No, but it does explain them. I agree, not everybody under the same cir*****stances would do the same thing but anybody that could overcome those odds would generally be an exception to the rule. I respect the points you all are making but we are ALL products of our enviroment. What he did (yes, unexcusable) was a symptom of a greater problem. If you want to fix any problem, you have to know the root cause. This particular situation is no different. To write him off as a ***** is exactly what American society does. Follow no beast on a quest.
I was pumping gas and a little boy was asking people to pump their gas for money.. He could have been no more than 8 years old…And people ask how could a young man end up like this
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@ red,
he wasnt homeless, crackhouse are open 24/7, that homeless ***** came outta his lawyers mouth.
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Well put is this way, Im sure it was a lot that went on in his life that led up to this point in his life..It is a lot we dont know…
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@ red,
he wasnt homeless, crackhouse are open 24/7, that homeless ***** came outta his lawyers mouth.
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so you sayin a crack house is a home?
@6am
You’re not aware that there are kids graduating, and they’re basically illiterate? And I thought I was sheltered. OK, I’ll give you an example of a HBO do*****entary I watched recently, Hard Times at Dougl***** High, which profiled students at a school in Baltimore. A white couple directed the film, and I highly suggest that you try to watch it — it will open your eyes.
This is a snippet from the directors of the film:
Alan Raymond
In the early 1990s, we produced and directed “I Am a Promise: The Children of Stanton Elementary School,” which won an Academy Award(r) for Best Feature Do*****entary. The film depicted a year in the life of a struggling inner-city elementary school in North Philadelphia, a high-poverty neighborhood. The children were five to ten years in age. They were very young and full of promise, as our title suggested. HARD TIMES AT DOUGL***** HIGH in some ways continues the story, but the students featured in the film are in a West Baltimore high school, a high-poverty community similar to North Philadelphia.
Susan Raymond
I think the two films are very interconnected. Sadly, public education hasn’t improved very much for children in this socio-economic situation. High school students do present many more challenges to everyone – teachers, parents and even their friends. Teenagers have jobs, perhaps active sex lives, possible drug abuse or peer pressure to join gangs, but the core issues remain the same – one of the most crucial being that few of these students can read.
@ sydney,
First you gotta stop calling them “our”
If a white ***** is in the KKK you dont hear white people saying “we gotta help “our” white brethern, they say ***** him I gotta pay my mortgage so i dont have to live near him.
we cant save the world people and you’d better try and enjoy your lives as much as possible, i like walking down the street and waving at my neighbors instead of ducking bullets and horny fat *****es with nappy ***** weaves and two ugly ***** kids nursing on each saggy tatted up *****y.
Why 6am because I use proper grammer?
@ redd,
lets go visit that crackhouse, i bet it had electricity, if it did it had a tv, a fridge stereo and beds, the water was on so they had a toilet and a shower…….thats a home for somebody.
@ fed up,
no one cares about your proper grammar, if you heard me outside bossip you’d know I was educated after 4 words, i can tell youre white by your content.
@Illuminate Truth
You just spoke the truth for real, that’s all I’m saying. He basically did and acted out what he was destined to do given the tools of life he had to start with. He should be in jail, but he should also be in threapy or something. Just writing him off as just a animalistic ***** does NOT stop the problem. We all are here, no matter how far away you run to the suburbs, the bull***** aint never too far away. That was an excellent post.
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fed up and ms bossy are trailer park w*****s. Really just shut the ***** up. Dont you have a table at dennys to clean or a goat to *****.
*****ing white people are obsessed with blacks and our issues, if this ***** bother you so much, take you simple *****es over to perezhilton….. *****es.
@6am
Brother, you know I have a lot of respect for you, but, believe me, there’s a whole other world out there of which you’re woefully unaware. Like you, my parents also both worked, and my brother and I would do our homework, c*****s, etc. until they came home. But the point is, they came home, they encouraged us to excel academically, and our every need was met. That’s not the reality for a lot of kids.
A lot of our kids are raising themselves, they’re doing without, and they’re angry, depressed, and without direction.
I say give him therapy in prison, after 30 years let him out he should be fine.
That’s nice Nina and exactly why you have the reputation you do. It’s called ignorance. Whenever you feel threatened you lash out. I don’t know what Bossy was saying but I wasn’t attacking you so why the name calling? You know nothing about me, besides if I had a choice I’d rather live in a trailer park and work at Denny’s than live on Section 8, with my food stamps and 6 babies with no daddies.
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@ redd,
lets go visit that crackhouse, i bet it had electricity, if it did it had a tv, a fridge stereo and beds, the water was on so they had a toilet and a shower…….thats a home for somebody.
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lol…..come on dogg…doubt it couldnt have had all that ***** cuz the crackheads would have sold it for money….
@Sydney
Yeah I saw that do*****entary about Baltimore City public schools its sad..A lot of those kids do not have a stable environment at home..It all starts in the home
@6am
I say “our” because I do believe we are connected. As African Americans, we have a unique history — our community has survived some of the worst atrocities imaginable because of our connectedness. I truly believe that we’re seeing more problems now because our community bonds have been weakened, and you see more of a “Me First” mentality now than you did in the past. The “I” versus “Us” social construct isn’t working, in my opinion.
@ sydney,
youre acting like ive never left the islands, i have cousins in the deep south, los angeles damn near everywhere, so ive seen alot of ***** that im typing about in here. the difference is i can say these *****s aint trying to help themslves, so why should i? I like my safe house, I like my truck, i like my neighbors, i like my city (and so does 99%) of the rest of the world, you cant tell me that kid was only trying to make enough money to feed himself, ***** i can eat on $10 a day if i had to, that ***** was trying to come up.
@ redd,
crackheads dont work in a crackhouse, they bring all that ***** they’ve stolen to the crackhouse and trade it for…….crack, so i know that ***** was in there.
@ sydney,
it works like this luv,
“I” will go out and get a job and save up as much money as possible so “I’ dont have to live around a bunch of criminal ***** *****s. “we” can do it together if you want but “I” aint going for any bull*****, “I” dont wanna get high with you after work, “I” will put my salary in the bank, “we” will not be going to the bank together@
@Redd
I watched that do*****entary with a friend, and my mouth hung open through most of it. I was shocked. The young brother who didn’t go to cl***** and eventually dropped out (if I recall correctly) was actually very bright and could have been an academic success. It was enlightening seeing the parents of the students — many of them were young and poorly equipped to guide their children (For example, college wasn’t even an option for many of them). It’s like an endless cycle of hopelessness.
I will also add that I’m seeing more about how the state of the nation’s education system as a whole and the overall achievement of students compares poorly with other nations, and that affects our overall productivity. And that’s not a white, black, or brown issue — that’s an American issue.
“our” lives will never entwine while youre out there *****in’ up, “our” ancestors would be ashamed at what youre doing.
No *****..who said crack heads work in a crackhouse?…I doubt if you have ever been in a crack house ( not that its an accomplishment) but aint no working refrigerators, microwaves or any other appliances to *****ist you in living your life in a crackhouse…like I said they would sell that *****
@ Fed Up
I can’t recall anybody on here excusing his actions. What was discussed were the circustances behind his situation. Believe me, this is less of a racial issue than you think. Go to any trailer park inhabited by Caucasians and the same type crimes you find in the “hood” are taking place. The difference is that the trailer parks aren’t flooded with law enforcement therefor increasing the number of people arrested for the SAME type crimes. The problem is economic and systematic. The symptoms of the problem are the actions of people like Donyea. Blacks are no more criminal minded than Caucasians. To beleive otherwise is ignorant.
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@6am
I say “our” because I do believe we are connected. As African Americans, we have a unique history — our community has survived some of the worst atrocities imaginable because of our connectedness. I truly believe that we’re seeing more problems now because our community bonds have been weakened, and you see more of a “Me First” mentality now than you did in the past. The “I” versus “Us” social construct isn’t working, in my opinion.
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Sydney…. you are sooooo correct. That was a perfect example of how before we took on this I’m doing me ” attitude we had a stonger foundation as a people. You make alot of sense. well I cant change people’s views, but it makes me happier to know that I helped others on my way journey to the top. Most likely someone sacrificed something for any of us to be wherever we are.(whether they are aware of it or not) There are blacks who are dead, just so we can sit up on this very blog right now. It’s about being grateful. I believe some people have no hope and cant be helped, but does that mean the ones that are just caught up have to be left by the wayside. I dont like to think so. It’s not about saving the world. It’s about trying to do your little part, which ultimately through time, makes our communities better places to live.
Its6amHoGetOut(Check me out!)
“our” lives will never entwine while youre out there *****in’ up, “our” ancestors would be ashamed at what youre doing.
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Just my opinion, but I think that people that think like you on this issue is one of the reasons why its hard for black people to succeed..I mean you heard of the sayin ‘it takes a villiage”..I mean, I dont know you but your comments sound selfish…
Im seriously considering adopting a child once I have my own, but you better beleive I wanna meet the parents first, oh and the kid can be no darker than a paper bag plus have good hair.
just kidding……….I’d never *****in’ adopt
@ red,
It does take a village, but I aint going to a village open handed and getting my hands chopped off….***** that!
@6am
Now, brother, I had to tell you what HBCU stood for not too long ago, so I do think there are some cultural aspects that you may be unaware of, lol.
In regards to the money issue, I can’t read the brother’s mind, but I do think materialism is rampant among us, one of the many reasons I hate most of today’s music (not that that’s entirely to blame, but I’ve heard children on the city streets reciting obscene music lyrics word-for-word). Listen to many of the current songs and they’re about money, violence, and sex. Turn on the TV and what do you see. Go to the movies and what do you see.
So if Mom and Dad aren’t home, or really in the picture, and you’re being raised on a steady diet of the latest rappers and BET, what are you learning?
Oh and red, black people are doing just fine over here.
6am.”oh and the kid can be no darker than a paper bag plus have good hair.”
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Please tell me that was another one of your distastefully retarted jokes? I hope your not serious
Of course he’s changed…he got caught and is on trial for serious offenses…anyone who wouldn’t “change” after that is stupid…but it’s hard to really know if people are ever sincere. He definitely deserves to be in jail but until he’s an old man…who knows…not all cops are bad..they were chasing a drug dealer at the time of the shooting who shot at them…they were not vigilante cops messing with innocent people…
@ sydney and red, just how long have i been saying you should execute every deep south rapper except for scarface, luda and andre 3000? ya’ll mainland black people shouldve burned down BET 15 years ago
Of course it was a joke, read right under my statement
@Nina Knows
“That was a perfect example of how before we took on this I’m doing me ” attitude we had a stonger foundation as a people. You make alot of sense. well I cant change people’s views, but it makes me happier to know that I helped others on my way journey to the top. Most likely someone sacrificed something for any of us to be wherever we are.(whether they are aware of it or not) There are blacks who are dead, just so we can sit up on this very blog right now. It’s about being grateful. I believe some people have no hope and cant be helped, but does that mean the ones that are just caught up have to be left by the wayside. I dont like to think so. It’s not about saving the world. It’s about trying to do your little part, which ultimately through time, makes our communities better places to live.”
Sista, I couldn’t have said it better myself. There are some who will not reach out to help, and that is their right. But those who are willing to look beyond themselves have the capacity to make a real difference. If you can touch one life or change one person’s direction, that is a success that will be carried on for years to come. Life is bigger than any one individual person.
The good hair part wasnt a joke, you know how hard it is to find black hair care products over here? you damn near gotta go on the military base in between their pay periods!
where the ***** were all those supportive relatives when the young man needed a roof over his head?
so sad.
Bill Cosby for president 2012! he was right!
@ barb you didnt read the story luv, his relatives were *****in’
@6am
“our” lives will never entwine while youre out there *****in’ up, “our” ancestors would be ashamed at what youre doing.”
And our ancestors would be ashamed of you sitting on the sidelines when there’s work to be done.
I’M JUST GLAD HE DID NOT SHOOT SOME INNOCENT BYSTANDERS. THAT HAPPENS WAY TOO OFTEN.
HOPEFULLY HE CAN COME OUT A BETTER PERSON AND BE A HELP AND NOT A HARM.
I WISH HIM, THE OFFICERS & THIER FAMILIES WELL……….
its 8am ya’ll i gotta go to work, yanno that place where you earn money so you dont have to live near *****s like Donyea.
So much hate…
My mother died when I was 2-she was a crack head. I have no idea who my father is. I am half black and half white. I was raised in ghetto foster home after foster home. I worked my ***** off and stayed in school and got an education. I WORKED MY ***** OFF!!! I did not sell crack. I did not shoot people. I could have sold drugs or my body but I CHOSE not to. I waited tables, worked at Wal-Mart and have had all kinds of ***** jobs. I have had a hard ***** life, but I have survived it.
Yes, this boy had a hard life, but he made these decisions.
The war on drugs was lost a long time ago. Our prisons are overflowing with young black men because they CHOOSE to get into that life.
I will not shed a tear for this boy. For all of us who started life out with a ***** deal, some of us are smart enough to CHOOSE to get the hell out!!!!!!
@6am
All black hair is “good” hair, love.
Yall wild in here today! I might as well get some popcorn… and sit back and watch the fire works!
@ dubya
(Check me out!)
KENNEDY
(Check me out!)
This is sad, But also a testament to the lack of available resources in OUR community. Because where a white dysfunctional family fails, their community picks up the slack. The system failed this kid, he needed help long before this i’m sure…….
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I agree 100%.
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OMG ! Please tell me you mother*****ers aren’t serious.
That has to be one of the stupidest *****ing things I’ve ever read, even for this site. What *****ing plantation do you people come from.I can understand if you don’t actually know any white people, but do you at least have a *****ing television, LMAO !.
You mind has to be completely twisted the ***** around, your reality so *****ing distorted from having your head so far up your ***** that you couldn’t possibly tell the difference between the smell of your own ***** and fresh air.
@ sydney,
I dont ever remember MLK mentioning Bumpy Johnson, Stepin’ fetchit or Amos n Andy in any of his speeches.
@ Lisa, youre not 1/2 black, youre a 100% white niggette pretending to be 1/2 black, i can tell by youre typing.
@Its6amHoGetOut To be so dignified you surly do have a ghetto screen name. Just an observation
@Hot sauce
A hoodhoe must have broke your heart cuz your too mad! LMAO
It’s 6am….goddamn if you don’t make all the sense in the world. We must have been separated at birth.
But you are so wrong for wanting a ho to leave just because it’s 6am. lmao.
@ sydney,
if all black hair is good hair, how come deep south *****es get blonde weaves?
Good hair is simply hair that grows healthy. It has nothing to do with texture. Just because you dont know how to comb it doesnt make it bad, just makes you bad at it!
Ok im gonna explain my screen name
we get to the club at 1am
I get a good buzz by 2:30 am
I meet the ***** at 3am
we’re at my house *****in’ by 4am
we’re done at 5:40am
she gets 10 minutes of sleep
shes up by 5:50am whether she likes it or not
No you cant use my shower, no you cant make yourself breakfast, heres 75 cent for the bus and a 2 for 1 eggmcmuffin coupon, I dont care if your mad and cussin’ me out, just dont wake my neighbors.
besides I dont wanna make you late for work!
@6am
No, you didn’t hear Bumpy Johnson’s name in Dr. King’s speeches, but the plight of the impoverished was one of his primary concerns, and it was a cause he was working on when he was **********inated (He was advocating on behalf of sanitation workers in Memphis). He labored to provide a voice for the voiceless. That was his legacy, and I believe it is ours as well.
@6am
“if all black hair is good hair, how come deep south *****es get blonde weaves?”
I don’t know — why do white women in Hollywood get extensions?
i gotta go ya’ll
The sanitation workers werent blasting each other over property they didnt even own, crack or an ugly babymomma who just happened to be *****ing different *****s at the same time.
Bye, 6!
white niggettes get extensions to make their hair longer or fuller.
deep south real niggettes know that the fatter you are the more ridiculous your head should look….. so it takes attention away from your body
@ 6am
You have a knack for injecting humor into an otherwise serious topic…..I don’t know rather to love it or hate it. Yet, I do laugh. Do your thang Brah.
@ Nina Knows, Sydney
Perfect insight into the I vs. us syndrome. I wish more people would realize the significance of leaving OUR people behind enemy lines. All this does is lead to the further division of our people. If you have the ability to enlighten one person on one subject than you can make a difference. Any contribution to society is significant. Unfortunately, it seems that when we have “made it” (whatever that is) we tend to turn our backs on our own kind. Then, the “have-nots” are calling the “haves” sell outs and the “haves” respond by calling the “have nots” crabs in a bucket. Divide and conquer. They don’t have to do it to us anymore. We do it to ourselves (as predicted by Willie Lynch).
bye
@6
I apologize for not sounding as “black” as you do. Must be that education I worked my ***** off to get.
I quit trying to sound ghetto when I got the hell out!
I am from frankford in Pjhiladelphia and i remember this incident which took place last year. This happened around the time when the cops were getting killed…the streets were blocked off for hours…this happened rite around the corner from my house,,,itz ashame that i have to say it really wasn’t big thing at the time cuz in FRankford we are use to hearing gun shots so much but i remember this…i actually seen Phillips before around the neighborhood but i do not kno him…i think they should have gave him a lighter sentence and they should have took his upbringing into consideration he was only 17 with no one and he was homeless and we learn from our environment…Frankford is definately high with our crime rate another cop jus got killed a couple weeks ago.
po chile…po po chile
Lol at Illuminati,
Youre forgetting that thats your brother on the other side of those enemy lines waiting to take you out so they can take your *****! crabs in a barrel? I call it “golden retrievers in a yard full of pitbulls” you know damn well youre the victim no matter how hard you try and get along.
Thats ok lisa, everyone on bossip knows im ghetto as *****.
im more ghetto than 1 year olds walking down the street in only a diaper, im more ghetto than my car payment being more than my rent, im more ghetto than liquor stores and liquor ads on every corner, im more ghetto than har*****ing the postman on the 1st and 15th, im more ghetto than shootouts at a welcome home party, im more ghetto than house slippers and curlers worn out to dinner.
Im so ghetto you should read my hypothetical TI interview with the view. Its under the TI thread, that ***** made even me laugh!
Ugh, my last comment didn’t post. . .
@6am
“im more ghetto than house slippers and curlers worn out to dinner.”
There’s nothing wrong with this — that’s haute couture. J/K!
KENNEDY
(Check me out!)
This is sad, But also a testament to the lack of available resources in OUR community. Because where a white dysfunctional family fails, their community picks up the slack. The system failed this kid, he needed help long before this i’m sure……..
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What you essentially said was that this was allowed to happen because he was from a black neighbor. When it has nothing to do with being black it has to do with the environment in which you are raised and that environment shaping who you are as a person. This ***** happens across the board, White, black, Chinese and everything in between. A *****ed up environment is a *****ed up environment no matter who you are it’s as simple as that, LMAO !.
Just , because you don’t hear about it everyday doesn’t mean it isn’t happening and if you do have a television try watching ALL of the channels not just the ones that depict every black man and every black neighborhood as being *****ed up, ruthless, and uncaring.
@IlluminateTruth
“Unfortunately, it seems that when we have “made it” (whatever that is) we tend to turn our backs on our own kind. Then, the “have-nots” are calling the “haves” sell outs and the “haves” respond by calling the “have nots” crabs in a bucket.”
Yes, this is nothing new — There have been books written about this complex issue.
Nina Knows wrote, “Good hair is simply hair that grows healthy.”
I’m 35 years old, and that’s not what ‘good hair’ meant at all when I was coming up. I hope you’re right for the present, wherever you’re at.
But ‘good hair’ where I’m from has always meant ‘white hair’ or ‘indian hair’, which meant ’straight or wavy’. When black gossip sites talk that mess about, say, Chili’s ‘baby hair’, we’re getting into the same ish as well, using a different phrase.
A ‘fro/kinky hair, no matter how well maintained or nice looking, was NOT ‘good hair’ where I’m from — the midwest.
The opposite of ‘good hair’ is ‘nappy headed’. Or at least, it was.
Hey Vee-TGIF, two words for you: Amadou Diallo. Wait, two more: Sean Bell. Sorry, just two more: Cops walked.
“@ Jewish Woman (SMDH)
Youre funny too especially since you stopped trying to convince us all 5 of your fake pics are you.”
I never did!! I have never felt the need to convince your crusty ***** colored monkey ***** of anything, boy!!!
“And I know youre a white woman who just happens to be very unattractive.”
You WISH I was so then your self hating monkey ***** could beat off to the thought of me being a fat ugly white girl – for we all know how much black males LOVE fat ugly white girls!!!!!
Get the ***** on you dumb tar coon son of a *****!!! The best part of your dumb ape ***** ended up as a wet ***** stain dripping from the crack of your sleazy ***** mama’s ***** onto the matress!!
@KENNEDY wrote, “This is sad, But also a testament to the lack of available resources in OUR community. Because where a white dysfunctional family fails, their community picks up the slack. The system failed this kid, he needed help long before this i’m sure……..”
Too true.
I been teaching high school for a few years now and this is what I have been saying all along. If they spent the money that they use to lock these kids up for 30+ years on some type of intervention when they are 8 and 9 years old, we wouldn’t have this problem. I honestly feel bad for him. Where are the rec centers in Philly, where are the social workers and potential mentors and teachers who could have tried to help this boy before he got to this point?
I apologize for the typos
Oh please..i don’t care. This is the same type who breaks into my car, steal what I work for and do everything other than being an upstanding citizen. Everybody wanna pity them when they get caught up, where is everybody before that???? I’m sure if the victim was a family member, many wouldn’t be so forgiving. Send them all to Iraq! Let them go fight.
Nita(Check me out!)
Nina Knows wrote, “Good hair is simply hair that grows healthy.”
I’m 35 years old, and that’s not what ‘good hair’ meant at all when I was coming up. I hope you’re right for the present, wherever you’re at.
But ‘good hair’ where I’m from has always meant ‘white hair’ or ‘indian hair’, which meant ’straight or wavy’. When black gossip sites talk that mess about, say, Chili’s ‘baby hair’, we’re getting into the same ish as well, using a different phrase.
A ‘fro/kinky hair, no matter how well maintained or nice looking, was NOT ‘good hair’ where I’m from — the midwest.
The opposite of ‘good hair’ is ‘nappy headed’. Or at least, it was
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First of all Nita, if when where you grew up that’s what they called good hair. Then that’s your *****ing problem. If you think just because a person hair is more co***** or kinkier than someone else’s does NOT mean it is bad hair. So you have to be white or indian to have “good hair” Get the ***** outta here. Because you grew up in some uneducated area, doesnt mean we all have to jump on your jiggaboo bandwagon.
I bet you walk around with blonde weave down you back right? you know you do. That’s the problem with *****S, so quick to pop off about some ignorant ***** *****. I see blacks with good hair all the time sweetie, and there not mixed. It grows good, it’s not dry and ugly. It’s very healthy. and their not bald-headed by a long shot. So there sweetie is GOOD HAIR. Good Healthy ***** hair as a matter of fact.
I hope you dont have children, you would be a poor excuse for a mother. Kids running around with weave at the age of 2. Putting perms in they hair when they 3 and they blad and got chemical burns by the time they 4. Stop getting caught up in the white man’s hype about Black hair. as a matter a fact, get a *****ing clue. Like I told 6am, just because you do have the skills to comb a baby’s hair dont make it bad, maybe your ***** just dont know what your doing.
I guess we all should be walking around with stringy ***** dog hair on our heads. I swear it amazes me the ***** comes out of a *****s mouth. Thank God for Real Black People.
I guess thats what happens when you become a crack dealer and fire thru windows and doors. I really doubt that he would of went to the local rec center over selling drugs even if it was an option. Hopefully his little ***** gives good head
@ Roxie
If you don’t care about the core issues of the problem then you shouldn’t care about getting your car broken into. Where is everybody before that? I *****ume not caring until it happens to them. Then, the answer is lock them up which is a band aid solution. You still have the enviroment that produced the criminal that broke into your car so chances are you’ll take it to the shop only to have it victimized again. Send them to Iraq? Sure, lets take an individual involved in a domestic criminal activity and get them involved in an international one. Broaden their horizons. The answer is not to be reactive but proactive. Attack the issues that create the problem. You don’t have to pity someone in order to realize that there is a larger issue than the crime itself. Smoke will kill you but you can’t disperse the smoke without putting out the fire.
Stop all the *****ness please Nita
If you cant comb it sweetie, stop blaming it on the kids. Stop buying their hair products from the dollar store. Go get real shampoo and hair care products. Stop making them feel like something on them is BAD when in reality you just dont have the time or money to give a damn.
White, Black, Mexican, Asian, people all can have BAD HAIR if they dont take care of it properly.
***** it aint rock science…..
Jewish woman u dries up piece of stale *****, go back n finish sucking yo mom’s cold dark n funky *****!
@illuminate
A bunch of words put together that sound good, But the issue is no one can help you unless you want to be and help yourself first. Period.
@ Roxie
If that is all you think that is (a bunch of words put together) then you are as hopeless as what you THINK people are. You have NO idea what the core issues even are (do you?). I don’t have the time to explain them to you. Research for yourself…..or continue not to care. Just watch where you park your car.
@ illumminate
YES!!! Words put together that has no action is just that: A BUNCH OF WORDS PUT TOGETHER THAT SOUND GOOD. So your words are hopeless. Since you have all the answers, why don’t you make it your duty to save them.
why is it, when they see black skin the judges find it easy and satisfying to p***** the harshest sentence?
be it police ,be it judge, they feel at ease and happy to destroy anyone who have black skin or black friend.
The reason jails are filled with black people is not so much unfair sentencing, its because we as a people are out here commiting crimes and the judicial system puts us in jail at higher numbers than they do whites. The solution to the problem is simply put DO NOT COMMIT CRIME and you will not become a statistic. As far as the *****hole who shot blindly through a window (endangering everyone around) put his ***** in jail for at least 10 years, when he gets out, if he decides to partake in criminal activity again put him back in jail for another 10. Selling drugs is one thing, but attempting to take someones life is a whole different matter. The reason I say this is because people have a choice whether or not they want to buy drugs, but they don’t have choices when theres rampant gunfire and innocent victims being hit by stray bullets. Stop the violence and stop making excusses for violent people. That would go for all people, black, white and yellow.
A few cops were shot and killed earlier this year in Philly…so I’m sure that the police dept. wants to send a clear message to the community. Don’t kill cops! Don’t shoot or kill anyone! The young man shot two people…whether they were police officers or not…this crack dealer deserves to go to prison and the term is not excessive. What if the officers would have died? The police officers put their lives on the line to clean up our communities…not theirs…but ours. So when we hate on them so much…why should any of them want to help? For those that hate cops…who are you going to call when the thugs attempt to rob you or break into your home? If there were no cops…imagine all of the crime that would take place! Especially in the hood…So remember…some cops are idiots…but most are good people. Stop comitting crimes and you won’t go to jail.
Before blaming the system for failing the black community, people should also take a look at the upbringings and the families in the black community. The main problem is there is NO LOVE IN THE HOUSEHOLD, when there is no love, how would the child show love or respect to others? obviously, the child is not taught how to love or never shown how to respect someone. so in turn, the child would not respect oneself and others. why do you think many criminals and the majority of prisoners, are from broken homes and raised in bad families? I believe it is mommy and daddy fault, and if thats not the case their relatives or guardians that should be put to blame.
Oct 17, 2008 – 11:30 am Its6amHoGetOut(Check me out!)
I see a few things that went wrong here;
1. This kid is obviously the outcome of two ugly people *****in’
2. When the police searched him, they didnt see that package of powdered donuts in his pocket?
3. Obviously the water was turned off in his crackhouse, the ***** looks like he washes his face with Wesson Oil.
4. Even gay *****s will think this **********a is ugly.
5. This ***** looks like he won the “Beanie seigel ugliest ***** in philadelphia lookalike contest”
love 6am
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Gotta co-sign! I’m glad this ashy-lipped, ugly, bound-for-nowhere animal is off the streets! Damn! he is soooo ugly, and it appears he was genetically defective from the point of conception…
Wake the eff up, people… Social responsibility is in the hands of each and every individual family. Let us not forget, the Lord gave us all free will. There is no more time for blacks in this country to blame or *****ign responsibility to anyone but ourselves. Quit shaking your damn heads and clucking your tongues about all the injustices being done to us and find some way to get some justice FOR US BY US. Get your heads out of the sand. We need to mobilize OURSELVES — pool our resources, pull ourselves outta the gutter instead of waiting for other groups/races/cultures/ethnicities/organizations/countries/religions or whatever to do it for us. I’m sick of black people who do everything they can to illuminate the wrongs done to us without HAVING A REASONABLE PLAN to get us out of our own *****.
I think his sentence was excessive. He should of received 10-15 years maximum. His childhood was horrific.
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this happens all the time where i’m from a cl***** mate of mine got 30 years for robbing a store he was 19 his whole if is gone he made one mistake and it’s over he was a good kid
@Kennedy,
No, the system didnt fail this kid. The system doesnt have sex, get pregnant, and gives birth to unwanted children. He parents failed him. Actually his mother did.
@sweet_lies,
“it’s the systematic eradication of black males”
at the hands of other black males.
@Red Tony,
Shame on you brotha. As a black man you should feel the most threatened by these types of dudes because you are their primary victims.
@ To All The Men,
Shame on you guys for giving this *****h a p*****. If he wasnt shooting at cops he would be shooting you. Its these kinds of limp wristed attitudes that have convinced me that black females shouldnt raise children on their own. If they arent raising fools like Donyea they are raising a bunch of indecisive ***** *****hs talking about how his environment ***** him up or he had a hard life.
At the end of the day, it always goes back to the incompetence of the black female. If she isnt raising thugs, she is raising *****es.
Its the black female who orchestrates these poor environments.
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Kigali
‘At the end of the day, it always goes back to the incompetence of the black female. If she isnt raising thugs, she is raising *****es.Its the black female who orchestrates these poor environments’
You tell them.
that ***** done *****ED up!
‘That ***** done *****ED up!’
BLACK JARGON. Then you get mad when we say it. LOL.
DAMN I THOUGHT HE WAS TYRONE BIGGUMS WITHOUT A HAT.