Harold Camping has tried to predict the coming of Jesus for the last 40 years. Now I find that extremely odd when the bible says that not even the angels know when he will put in his return. These false profits are leading people to hell.

Colossal scam, lol that just about sums up religion/god, period…

Bible says no MAN knows the hour or the time.

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It would be funny if he dropped dead that day and no one else.

i saw this last night on CNBC…there is even a man planning to jump off a cliff at 11:11 on 12/21/2012 becuz he says he has been given a mission by god to jump to his death to save everyone else and said he believes at 11:11 on that day, a portal will be created and some other crazy sh1t will happen…the sh1t was hilarious, a lot of ppl are gullible idiots and FEAR is a very powerful emotion…world didn’t end in 94, didn’t end on Y2K, its not gonna end May 21st or Dec 21st…the show also said women wanted to commit suicide and kill their children out of fear the world is comin to an end smh

I wonder will he do an interview after next week when his theory will be proven to be BS

The UNIVERSE is BIGGER than us, remember we are just along for the rise; ENJOY!

*** Ride***

Why do you click on every religious post since you care nothing about it? Give it up, this is a black site and most people have some sort of religion. Nobody is taking advice from a Godless nobody like yourself. Go sit down somewhere with all your science books and continue to convince yourself the Big Bang Theory is real.

On another note I agree this is a scam b/c the Bible says not even the Son knows the date and time of the worlds end. He’s just crazy and after next week he’s gonna be crazy and broke for no reason.

um, i thought that the end of the world was december 12, 2012. oh wait, wasn’t it january 1, 2000?

#justsayin

the black n red family has no said birth record….we have always been and will always be….

my bad, i mean december 21, 2012 LOL

“Prophets”, not money (Profits)

I click on these forums because it’s just ridiculous how people believe in such nonsense. What’s wrong with hearing about how your religion is a scam? I’m sure you know it’s all a scam, your just in denial. Trust me when I gave up on the whole scam, it was kind of hard to come to terms with at first. Now I am living a very productive god free life.

YEAH YEAH YEAH AND WHEN IT DOESINT THEN WHAT ??????

REAL REAL COMMANDMENT TALK

Lol @ convince myself the big bang theory is real! Do you have a better explanation on how we got here, because the last time I checked, the bible has two too many creation stories. Each one of them contradicts each other. So what is your theory?

I know that this is kinda off topic, but you MIGHT have a point about organized religion being SORT of a scam. But to say that it’s a scam that there is some sort of superior being who designed and created the cosmos might be a over statement.

I believe we were created as the Bible says. It makes no difference in what order. But, you claim to be logical and scientific. So again I ask, do you really believe that an EXPLOSION can create life?

I’m not saying that you are wrong. (i’m open minded) But please tell me how do you get order from k\os?

Life didn’t start with the big bang. The universe started with the big bang. Life on Earth is a relatively new development. One of pieces of evidence that supports the big bang is that the universe is still expanding. Astronomers can calculate the rate that stars are moving apart from each other and trace it back to a single point and time. There is much more evidence than this, but it is too complicated to explain in a post.

Scientists have also recreated the conditions on Earth when life began. They have reproduced organic molecules starting to form. These are the building blocks of life.

He’s gonna feel the fool come May 22, 2011

11:11 am or pm :/

Only white people do shyt like this,over the top,wanting to be in the news looney tunes

Hmm mm @ Niecey. He’ll be all broke and right here May 22nd morning asking us to send a dollar to Paypal for some french fries. Man please go somewhere with all that. Aint nobody tell your butt to spend $140,000 on no bus signs.

You should do research on how your god was created. The book of genesis has two different stories that supposedly tells us where we came from. Which one is right and which one is wrong? And you wonder why people take your god/religion for a joke? Lol learn to think for yourself.

And I’m not a nobody, I’m a 28 year old US Army (retired) disabled combat veteran. So I have the right to say whatever I want to say. I don’t care who I offend over some silly belief.

on may 21st?? that would be so great, then i wouldnt have to do bio finals lol

Twitter wouldve been cheaper…

It would be you huh @white devil. lol. Yup you are right the universe is still expanding. Heck I will even add to that, that there galaxies STILL being created. So I agree and understand all of that. But you still didn’t explain how we got order from disorder. In this dimension. Throughout the universe one thing that is constant is MATH. Math is order. In Ghana 2+2=4. At the outer rim of our galaxy 2+2=4. That’s order and uniformity. You can’t just get that from BOOM!

The only difference in those two scenarios is the order in which things were created. The bottom line is that we were created. BTW there are far more people in the world who take my religion seriously than those who don’t and that’s a fact. Who are you to say I don’t think for myself? Who is doing the thinking for me? Also, every atheist I’ve ever run across came to be that way because of what they were told by another person, so maybe you should start thinking for yourself. Just because you don’t believe doesn’t make mine or anyone who believes wrong. BTW tell me your theory of how we got here and please don’t start with the we evolved from apes crap that most of you do, because science doesn’t even agree with that.

If the world is going to end, then God created all of us…just to destroy us?

No one believes in GOD until they need him!

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

I think he said AM but i dont remember completely…why,u plan on following his lead and jumping too lol XD

Lmao @A.A yelling “I’m not a nobody”

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Nope, I mean “profits”, making money off of false doctrines makes them false profits. Word play

Why do I feel kinda bad for this guy?? He’s so brainwashed it’s not even funny. Poor thing’s gonna wake up FLAT BROKE on 5/22/11 and then what??? Damn.

@2011wakeupcall: I thought God didn’t give ppl the spirit of fear and if God is so merciful and loving, why would u have to fear him lol XD

DANG I HOPE NOT!THAT’S THE DAY OF MY DAUGHTER’S SLUMBER PARTY!….LOL

I would like to have this discussion, but I can’t seem to post what I want. I am giving up.

and once upon a time far more ppl said and believed the earth was flat and took that statement seriously, how stupid and how much of a dumba$$ do they look and feel like now??? lol XD

Pictures of a miscarried fetus are ok, but you can’t use the letters a s s in any word.

its just about money and profitting off the fear gullible ppl have of the unknown…plenty of ppl have profitted on the Doomsday book market smh

If commiting suicide is a sin, why would God ask you to do it? What a dink. Just like that guy who said God told him to steal the new Chevy Camaro. Smh.

no He did not, its just the law of nature on this planet… everything living has a beginning and an end

on another note, some believe that our bodies contain an energy (soul) that never dies but goes to another dimension when it leaves the earthly body

i was rollin over here lol!!!!

People you learn critical thinking skills in grade school, you can still use them you know!!!

I hate when people try to push religions on others but I hate even more those who try to push they “you shouldnt believe” mess. If people want to believe there is a higher being, let them. If you dont want to think the same way, cool. Leave it alone. Neither will win this never ending battle of who is right and who is wrong.

@williedynamite: i was talkin to somebody about dimensions the other day, he made alot of good points but it was hard to believe even tho the philadelphia experiment did make me wonder if its possible

All believers know that the world as we know it will eventually come to an end, which is why we should live our lives like it could be any day. Harold Camping is a false teacher and he is leading these people on a path of destruction. Believe he wont be broke on 5/22 because his station is worth 100 mil…I wonder if he’ll help the people he misled :/

I can’t fathom the fact that people are STUPID enough to even believe it just become some man says it. Everybody’s turning into sheep. I might as well create a Twitter account and repeately post how the world is going to end on June 12, 2011. Come up with some absurd theory to back it up. I guarantee people would start believing me.

Anybody who is religious knows that NO man can predict when the world is going to end. I hate how corrupted “followers” make the rest of us look bad. Make religion seem like a sick joke.

Took the words right out my mouth.

It’ll never happen. Hell The Avengers is comin’ out next May, and I have it on good authority that God and Satan are huge fans of Joss Whedon (even though he’s an athiest).

Well if the 2012 “prophecy” doesn’t work out, better prepare for the 2029 doomsday prophecy.

C’mon bruh. You been on this here bytch long enough to know how to navigate around their filterin’ system in order to get your most valued shyt out.

you’ve been bamboozled!!

I think it was Karl Marx who once said: “RELIGION IS THE OPIATE OF SOCIETY” – Of course if he was alive today, he’d probably say that “REALITY TV IS THE OPIATE OF SOCIETY”, but hey, I’m sure you get the gist.

I’m sick and tired of saying that Christianity is something white people made up. Just because they did force it on people, doesn’t mean they made it up to gain some kind of mind control.

The bottom line is that arguing over something intangible is one of the most pointless things in the world. None of us will know until we leave the earth for ourselves. I’d rather believe and die wrong instead of NOT believe and die wrong, then end up in Hell.

You take your pick, I’ve already chosen mine.

@marquis yea i definitely get the gist lol…

I thought I had it figured out, but apparently not.

I wasnt refering to you,but to that guy’s logic. If he is so into the Bible he would know its a sin.

you probally dont believe in God because your disabled and bitter, and im not saying that to poke fun at disabled people ,but im pointing out that most people who go through some type of issue in their lives often become bitter and want somebody to blame,Blame the ARMY, OR PERHAPS AMERICA

Thank you Daisy Jay and I totally agree with you.

@CutieReppinNY

I would suggest you ACTUALLY READ/SUDY ABOUT THIS SUBJECT!

Most people who don’t believe in the bible, I’ve encountered are EX-CHRISTIANS! Some even MINISTERS/PASTORS! They actually studied their bibles, and found out that there isn’t any proof in what they claim.

The Universe was created by SCIENCE, THROUGH SCIENTIFIC MEANS!

If a “God” created the universe, then SCIENCE IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR “GOD” TOO!

If it is, let me go grab my cowboy hat and nuclear bomb to ride this ish out in style!!! Giddyap MOFOS!!!!!!! Then only will I get the rest I deserve..lol

@CutieReppinNY

In Genesis, there are TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF CREATION!

Two different STORIES OF ONE EVENT!

They CONTRADICT! DEAL WITH IT!
It doesn’t matter how YOU PERSONALLY FEEL ABOUT IT, OR WHAT YOU PERSONALLY BELIEVE!

If ONE SOURCE told you TWO OPPOSING STORIES FOR THE SAME EVENT, THEY ARE LYING!!!!!

The “Big Bang”, has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATION OF LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!

It actually helps to: KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING BEFORE DISREGARDING IT!

You OBVIOUSLY KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT WHAT SCIENCE OR YOUR BIBLE SAYS!

Your best bet: GO READ YOUR A SCIENCE BOOK, THEN YOUR BIBLE, THEN THE SCINCE BOOK AGAIN!

Until then you aren’t QUALIFIED TO HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT SUBJECTS YOU ARE IGNORANT ABOUT!

Sorry for the typos!

@MissPrincess: atheist and agnostic dont claim nor believe to have the answers, religious and Christian ppl claim to have the answers and that god exist and you must worship him or you’ll goto he11 and burn forever if you dont.

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Agreed @ CutieReppinNY. Any opportunity he/she gets to talk about religion, he’s right there. If you don’t believe in God, fine that’s you, but you don’t have to knock religion and those who believe in God every second of the day. We get it already, you don’t believe in God.

@Daisy Jay

The reality is: CHRISTIANITY WAS CREATED BY WHITE PEOPLE!

And it was CREATED AS A TOOL OF POWER AND CONTROL!

Read about the Council of Nicea 325 A.D.

Where Constantine Organized Christianity to help maintain CONTROL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

Many of the Ideas in the Biblical text are taken from OTHER RELIGIONS/CULTURES Primarily ANCIENT EGYPTIAN!

One of the names for “God” in Ancient Egypt was “AMEN”, this is where christians get this word from!

So “Christians”, every time you END YOUR PRAYER IN “AMEN”, YOU ARE PRAYING TO AN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN GOD!

DEAL WITH IT!

Most of them are the most angry/bitter people you can find.

You kidding me?

Okay, how do you know that the information your found is 100% true? Oh wait, you really don’t.

Like I said, stop with the arguments over religion. We won’t know until we’re gone. So don’t feed me your BS because my opinions and beliefs won’t change. At all.

Crazy white people.

u know who probably really is hoping that May 21, 2011 will be the end of the world: BISHOP EDDIE SCHLONG…how funny would it be if Jesus/God came back just to be a character witness in the Eddie Long Trial lol XD

The Amen written in the Bible is a Hebrew term is derived from the root [aman], which means to be firm or solid in the sense of permanency. So maybe you should do some research before you come trying to educate people on that which you don’t know. As I learned in elementary school there are many words spelled the same that mean totally different things in different languages.This is the problem I have with non-believers, they always try to twist something just to make their point. The only GOD I ever pray to is my LORD and Savior Jesus, so you can miss me with your made up nonsense.

@G.M. No, I don’t believe out of fear. I have complete faith. But I obviously fear God. Please don’t believe God is just here to make the world a happy place. Unless you’ve been to church and know a lot about the Bible, I suggest you stop trying to prove me wrong about the religion I choose to follow, thank you. And don’t think I need to completely explain myself to you either.

@Cutie
Thank you for that post.

@ Daisy Jay

I know the information is correct because THERE IS EVIDENCE FOR WHAT I STUDIED!

It’s NOT AN OPINION, it’s NOT MY OPINION!

When I first Acquired this knowledge I was a “Baptized Believer”, as was in denial about my beliefs!

I RELUCTANTLY excepted the knowledge,
after months of “Soul Searching” “Praying” and reading my “Bible”.

That is when reality struck me: IT DOSNE’T MATTER WHAT I PERSONALLY BELIEVE (OR ANYONE ELSE)!
Because “REALITY” DOESN’T REQUIRE FAITH OR BELEIF TO WORK!

Gravity dosen’t care if: “I BELIVE I CAN FLY”!

Terminal Diseases don’t care if: “I PRAYED ABOUT IT, OR IF OTHERS PRAYED”

And a 14 BILLION YEAR OLD UNIVERSE, doesn’t care what a 2000 year old DESERT BOOK has to say about it’s origins!

*smacks forehead*

Do I need to turn into a broken record for you? I DON’T REALLY GIVE TWO SH!TS WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE OR NOT BELIEVE. THE POINT I’M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE AND HAVE FAITH IN THE LORD AND WHATEVER “EVIDENCE” YOU TRY TO EXPOSE WON’T PERSUADE ME TO DO ANYTHING. ARGUING ABOUT SOMETHING WE DON’T FIND THE TRUTH ABOUT UNTIL WE ARE GONE FROM EARTH IS POINTLESS. POINT BLANK PERIOD.

Just had to make me yell…

@Daisy: u dont even know that much about the bible, u only know what ur told and believe cuz more than one person told u when u were a child, u didn’t choose ur religion, it was chosen for u…ur religion is whatever ur parents were and u didn’t research all religions and choose which beliefs u relate to/agree with the most…also, the story of Jesus Christ is a recycled story from the past…Jesus isn’t the only messiah in religion to be born of a virgin, perform miracles like heal the sick & blind, die & resurrect in 3 days…also, i know u wouldn’t completely explain urself, its not that u wont, its becuz u cant…and how can u fear god if god didn’t give u the spirit of fear? Why fear someone who loves u and wants best for u? Why fear someone who will forgive u no matter what sins u commit? What is it about God that makes u scared? And im not tryin to prove u wrong, i want u to help me understand, like the bible says: “in all thy getting, get understanding” but yet the religious seem to object to that by researching their own religions past, how ironic lol XD

Yeshua’s return, the time will never be revealed to Man. Read your bible people…

@CutieReppinNY

Once again you ARE SHOWING THAT YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.

STAY IN YOUR LANE!

If been studying this for OVER 17 YEARS, before that I was a BIBLE BELIEVING, BAPTIZED BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, who WENT TO CHURCH 2 times on Sunday (Morning & Night), Had Tuesday Church Service, Thursday BIBLE STUDY, AND FRIDAY CHOIR REHEARSAL!

I LIVED IN THE CHURCH AND WAS A PASTOR’S CHILD!

*but yet the religious seem to object to that by NOT researching their own religions past*…y’all act like its a crime to learn everything about ur religion or something

@Daisy Jay

I DIDN’T ASK YOU WHAT YOU BELIEVE, OR TELL YOU WHAT I BELIVE!

I DON’T CARE IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND! PEOPLE MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS, I MAKE CORRECTIONS! SIMPLE AS THAT!

@CutieReppinNY

I NEVER SAID I DIDN’T BELIEVE IN GOD, I SAID THAT THE BIBLE IS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS AND BACKWARDS ILL-INFORMED IGNORANT BELIEFS!

Also: There WASN’T A LETTER “J” during ancient time, or in the Languages of Aramaic Or Ancient Greek, so HIS NAME WASN’T “JESUS”!

PLEASE STUDY!!!

If any thing his name was YESHUA(YOSHUA), YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE SUBJECT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

STAY IN YOUR LANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@SettinDaRekordStr82hell

Duh!!! every true Christian knows that Yeshua is Jesus. Also like I stated before the word Amen written in the Bible is a Hebrew term is derived from the root [aman], which means to be firm or solid in the sense of permanency. Go ask a Rabbi and have him break down the Hebrew meaning for you. Oh let me guess he will be wrong too because you said so right (LOL). Who do these heathens really think they are??? BTW just because you go to church does not make you a Christian or true believer so that other post was irrelevant. We all know there are folks been in church for 20 years, still living wrong, so NEXT. PK’s be the freakiest kids out of the bunch, I knew a few in HS, so again NEXT. You must not have been too heavy in the spirit if you were swayed to be a non-believer, so STAY IN THE NON-BELIEVERS LANE PLEASE. THANK YOU. Stop being so angry because of how others choose to believe. I LOVE JESUS, why does that bother you so much??? Nothing you write will ever shake my faith, I only hope one day it re-awakens yours.

I was a BIBLE BELIEVING, BAPTIZED BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN, who WENT TO CHURCH 2 times on Sunday (Morning & Night), Had Tuesday Church Service, Thursday BIBLE STUDY, AND FRIDAY CHOIR REHEARSAL!

I LIVED IN THE CHURCH AND WAS A PASTOR’S CHILD!
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@SettinDaRekordStr8!

What happened and you stopped believing in Jesus???

Go Study about “Afro Asiatic Languages”
Then get back at me!

THe difference between me and you?
I’ve been were you are, YOU’VE NEVER BEEN WHERE I AM NOW!

The NERVE AND HYPOCRISY YOU HAVE, to imply that I WANS’T A “REAL” CHRISTIAN! LOL GTFOH!!!!!

Let me GUESS? “REAL CHRISTIANS” post of GOSSIP BLOGS????? HUH HYPOCRITE?

TRUTH:
The Hebrew Language is Derived from ANCIENT EGYPTIAN AND PHOENICIAN!

Any SERIOUS BIBLICAL SCHOLAR WILL HOLD THIS STANCE!

Just because the MEANING OF A WORD IS CHANGED OVER TIME, DOSN’T CHANGE THE ORIGIN OF A WORD!

I know many of “CHRISTIANS” who would say that YOU AREN’T A TRUE CHRISTIAN BECAUSE YOU ISIT AND POST ON “DEVILISH” GOSSIP SITES!

Learn more about he bible FIRST BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTH!

Also FAITH MEANS NOTHING!!!!
IF “GOD” KNOWS EVERYTHING THEN THERE IS ZERO REASON FOR “GOD” TO PLACE VALUE IN BELIEVING IN ANYTHING WITHOUT EVIDENCE!

FAITH IS REQUIRED ONLY WHEN EVIDENCE/TRUTH/REALITY IS LACKING!!

I’ll everyone here on the 22nd.

Well, there’s a lot of down time here, so against my better judgement I guess I’ll comment…

I believe in God, but I don’t believe in everything in the bible. Those are man’s words, interpretations, and translations.

I don’t pick in choose what I follow based upon my liking but knowledge and history to navigate around man’s propaganda.

It boils down to faith and the connection we have with God. I’m a Christian, but more so spiritual than religious. Now some Christians would question how serious I am about my faith, but to those I always say where in the bible does it talk about religion. It references spirit.

As a scholar, I get questioned about how do I follow so blindly. And to them I say:

Religion and Science has two different methods and scopes, so there’s no seeing eye-to-eye. They aren’t meant to. Religion is based upon faith, while science refers to empirical evidence and what can be tested. We are the tested ones when it comes to our faith while in science we are the ones who run the test.

The bible says no man knows the day nor the hour! WE all know the world is gonna end, but No man knows the day!

This guy is going to have 4,000 cameras in his face on May 21st starting with TMZ taunting and teasing him. I hope that he doesn’t commit suicide because he truly believes this and his life savings are gone.

JESUS CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Read the Bible and stop judging “Christians” even if “Christians” weren’t doing the right thing what does that have to do with you and your relationship with Christ Jesus. Sounds like you are making excuses to continue living in sin.

@daisy,settindarekord,cutie,gm,atheist: hate to get in the middle of all this cause i love to see so many ppl open about their beliefs and opinions but church is a gathering of ppl in discussion and sharin the information of the lord etc. so whether u all believe or not or if ur in the building with the cross or not ur ALL having church rite now have a good weekend!!!

YOU HAVE TO UNDERTSTAND MY PEOPLE..WHITE PEOPLE ARE SCARED RIGHT NOW! THEY KNOW THEIR TIME IS UP ON THIS PLANET…SO THEY NOW THE ENDO FTHE “ENTIRE” WORLD IS HERE CAUSE THEY CONSIDER THE WORLD “THEIRS”…THEIR WORLD IS ENDING…NOT OURS…OURS I BEGINNING AGAIN..THEY KEEP MENTIONING SCRIPTURE…READ IT!! IT SAYS THE BLACKMAN TIME IS HERE ~~AGAIN~~SO THEY ARE RUNNING SCARED….YOU HAVE TO SIT BCK AND LET NATURE TAKE IT S COURSE….IN FACT NATURE HAS MADE THE WHITE RACE STERILE! GOOGLE/YOUTUBE ” THE DYING WHITE RACE”

Well, for starters, since it says we can’t know when the world ends, doesn’t it mean that just because those people say it will, it won’t? And for the people that don’t believe in God, that’s your business. I choose to believe, so if the world does end (it won’t next week, but it will someday), I know I have something to hope for. And killing yourself beforehand is just stupid, just because you’re dead doesn’t mean you’re escaping judgment.

Hey Amazing Atheists

I am still praying to the “Big Sky Daddy”. And I ain’t giving them pimps and homo preachers my money.

There are so many people that don’t believe in god or faith and that doesn’t matter.Why people spend so much time trying to convince mainly christians that we are wrong is exactly what the devil would want.The reason they hate us is because they don’t understand how someone could be healed or touched by something you can’t see or analyze.There are alot crazy christians that would have you to believe that god is vengeful and hates gays and spitful but until you meet people that god has worked miracles for you can’t understand how christians work our faith isn’t science stories from people testimony of how their life has changed since becoming a christian even atheist have talked about their soul being restored by god you tube it. You cant figure it out why we believe until give yourself to god

Like to add….yes its hard to be a christian becau

@you will see

Religious People are Hypocrites, especially Christians!

They go to your door p a s s i n g out pamphlets of nonsense, they stand on corners yelling out “scriptures”, they tell people what “God” wants them to do, if you don’t believe like they do, then you’re “going to Burn” etc….

But the minute you disagree with them, THERES A BIG F U C K I N G ISSUE!

Most of them DON’T READ THEIR BIBLES, and rely SOLEY ON WHAT THERE PASTORS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE BIBLE!

How can ANYONE preach about something THEY DON’T EVEN READ THEMSELVES?????

I don’t HATE Christians, I used to be one!

I JUST NO LONGER BELIEVE IN SUPERSTITIOUS 2000 YR OLD FAIRYTALES!

It’s apparent that you DON’T READ THE BIBLE!

Because according to the bible ESPECIALLY THE OLD TESTAMENT “God”
was very VENGEFUL, AND EVEN HATED! And COMMANDED THE SLAUGHTER/GENOCIDE OF WHOLE GROUPS OF PEOPLE(WOMEN & CHILDREN INCLUDED)

Doesn’t your bible say “VENGEANCE IS THE LORDS!”?

YOU LIKE MOST CHRISTIANS, DON’T READ YOUR BIBLE OR CHERRY PICK SCRIPTURES AND NOT READ THE REST!

YOU CAN’T ONLY READ THE “FEEL GOOD” STUFF!

Consciousness is forever. As long as consciousness is possible, the world will never parish. Consciousness=creation. Its that simple. To believe that God is external, you reduce ability to transcend into Godliness. Whether you know it or not, man/woman are God

Ok. I’ll end this now. Religion addresses “who” and science addresses “how”. Faith addresses “why”. God created the universe and thus the big bang. The Bible cannot be taken literally. It is historically and scientifically flawed, but conceptually accurate. Believing in evolution and the such does not negate God’s love for us. In fact…it enhances it. We are remarkable creations, and I doubt the science of our origin was by chance. But I also doubt that our Israelite brothers way back when knew enough about recombinant DNA mechanisms to explain it in the Bible, so a creation story worked just as well. There. Case closed.

@ScientistChristian,

How can a book that is “Historically & Scientifically Flawed” still be “Accurate Conceptually”?

If the Historical Events are FLAWED/FALSE?
And The Scientific Ideas are FLAWED/FALSE?

WHERE LIES THE TRUTH???

THIS IS A CASE OF NOT EXCEPTING THE TRUTH ABOUT SOMETHING TO HOLD ON TO A BELEIF!

If the bible CONTAINS LIES, THEN EITHER “GOD” IS A LIER, OR THE BOOK IS A LIE!

WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE?????

The bible says EATING SHRIMP IS AN ABOMINATION, DO YOU BELIEVE THIS???

Do you believe, an ALL KNOWING, ALL POWERFUL, UNIVERSE CREATING BEING IS ALSO:

INFINITELY PETTY????

I CALL BULL $H!T

Ok @ psalm, I sought the knowledge and the end result is me being an atheist. No one is trying to convert anyone, we are just trying to get you all to think for yourselves. All of your god “logic” is so flawed that you don’t even have an argument. Now I can see if you said that this god was just a god that sat there and done nothing to help his creation. That would be a more believable god because your god does nothing for the good of humanity.

@ clarissa, how are you doing??? Glad to see you stopped supplying the middle men, now it’s time cut the superstition altogether…

Oh lord!!!

Yeah today is going to be the end of the world for a lot of ppl, just like yesterday was & tomorrow will be & so on. The Planet is billions of years old, and our journey as modern day humans have been millions of years in the making.

@Amazing Atheist

Nope I am going keep on praising the “GREAT I AM”! YOU BIG PIMPING TOO

We will never know when the time ends. All that i know is that we have to be ready when it do come. I mean it could happen today right this second. Get your lives right whether u believe in God or not or confused how we were created or whatever. We are in the last days and it could happen no time soon. Why you think these natural catasophies and other things happen back to back and its getting bigger. Things will not get any better only worst. God is not playing people and He is trying to get our attention.

I’d like to put a temporary tatoo on my back & advertise for you . You can make the check payable to Ryda4life at any time !!! I also take travelers checks & money orders………..

not even Jesus know when the world will end…

The difference in the 2 stories of creation in genesis is the 1st creation GOD created and it WAS GOOD. The 2nd creation LORD GOD created and he saw it was NOT GOOD for man to b alone.

You really took time out of your day to even say that bull. For that, I must SMH and laugh.

I never said I knew everything. But I can have an opinion. You act like I can’t. If I wanna think people are crazy for believing that the world is going to end this year or next year, let me. I don’t understand why it’s having such a huge affect on you – it obviously is because you choose to study what I say and attack me randomly. Stfu already.

2 different entities creating. When GOD created he saw it WAS GOOD and rested on the 7th day.

When the LORD GOD (lesser god) came along behind GOD 2 create his creation was not as good and he should have let things b.

I think this whole thing (life, the mystery etc) is a lesson for the Lord God to learn his place.

Its deeper that ya’ll think. Open your 3rd eyes ppl!

This only means that your Bible believes there is MORE THAN ONE GOD, which contradicts Christianity’s, “MONOTHEISTIC” STANCE!

Is there One “God”? Or More than one?

There is only one GOD. That’s why the other is called Lord God (lesser god) and the Lord Gods creation was NOT all good.

Those with a discerning mind will perceive.

There is also the Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)

But I don’t believe the Lord God is part of the Trinity.

These r my beliefs and my understanding of the Word. The Bible says ask GOD for wisdom and a discerning mind and HE will give it unto you.

Oldest Christian Churches of the World are that of the Orthodox Ethiopian and Armenians. (I think)

People really need to start looking for the similarities in all World Religions before they go on a bender… An inkling of understanding will start there.

I think the Trinity is yourself and you relation/understanding of this life, your body, and your consciousness like Tony pointed out. But that’s just my humble interpretation. To each their own as long as they don’t kill in the name of it.. lol

whether its may 21st or december 2012 i won’t have to pay back my student loans!!! IN YOUR FACE GUB’MENT LOANS AHAHAHAHAHAHA

@Prissa

You’re not making any sense!
Please RE-READ WHAT YOU SAID!

A “Lesser God” would still be “A God”

THUS MORE THAN ONE GOD ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE!

THUS THE STATEMENT OF “LET US” MAKE MAN IN “OUR IMAGE”, IN GENESIS.

The bible is like the game of “Telephone”, One person tells a story, it gets p a s s e d around to Millions of people. By the time the “Message” is written down, it isn’t even THE SAME STORY AND HAS CONTRADICTIONS!

There is 1 GOD. There is also the Trinity. In John it says: “In the beginning was the Word. The Word was WITH GOD and the Word WAS GOD. He was with GOD in the beginning”

What did GOD do in the beginning in genesis? GOD said “Let there b light”..

GOD SPOKE THE WORD(s). Jesus is also called the Word. God moves among us via the Holy Spirit – therein is the Trinity.

*rolls eyes*
What exactly are you reading? Because I do none of those things. If anything, I get mocked. Like what you’re doing to me. Talking major bull about me for no apparent reason. Go back to the first page, that is, if you’re actually literate. I clearly repeated how I will always believe what I believe. If people want to believe something else, go ahead. I REPEATELY stated that I’m pointless to argue about religion and I don’t want to do it.

Do you need your vision checked? Or are you just extremely illiterate? Because if you read my past comments are are still standing by what you’re saying to be, you need an immediate lobotomy. Something is wrong with you.

it’s pointless*

and are*, me*

@settin yes the Lord God is a god but not GOD. The is a lesser god. That’s why his creation was not all good.

Think -u never read “not good” until the lesser god starts creating stuff.

Also GOD made man in HIS own image. The lesser god created man from the dust of the earth to TOIL in the garden of Eden where the lesser god put him.

GOD did not put us here to TOIL (which means work) HE put us here to be fruitful and multiply to fill the earth and subdue it to have every growing and thing with the breath of life in it. GOD gave us all of this. . The lesser god set things up that other way. The lesser god said don’t eat from the tree of knowledge of good n evil.

@prissa

It is important to make COHERENT POINTS in discussions like this.

Your statements ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, WITHOUT ANY CONNECTION!

If you make s statement WITHOUT FACTS, NO AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL RANDOM RHETORIC WILL PROVE YOUR STANCE!

The Old testament and New Testament are TWO SEPARATE BOOKS, written by PEOPLE SEPARATED BY HUNDREDS OF YEARS, GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS, CULTURES, AND LANGUAGES!

What it states in “John” has ZERO BEARING ON WHAT GENESIS STATES!

Daisy-Raisin

Cut the Crap phony…damn near every comment you make is critical of someones doomsday belief, whether its about Earthquakes, Tornadoes Winter Blizzards, Your California raisin azz all of a sudden pops up to Mock a persons beliefs about Doomday scenarios, other topics as well. As I said before if that person believes the Goddam sky is fallin..then thats what he/she believes. So stop tryin to weasle out of that BULLCHIT you constantly spout. Good night and Good Riddance.

The Bible is a mystery. The mystery will b revealed to those who can discern it. The mystery will also b revealed at the End Times.

Oh and when it says create man in OUR image its referring to the Trinity.

Uhh why are you not addressing the ones that attacked me for believing what I believe?! I choose to believe in God, and you can go to the first page to see me being yelled at. Why are you ignoring that part, hmm? That says a lot. You don’t care about people who mock other’s beliefs, you just wanna pick on ME.

With that being said, it’s obvious that you don’t want to admit that I’m right. Do me a favor and spare me your bull by never leaving a comment to me again. It’s stupid.

Good riddance to you, too. Thanks for making me laugh today.

@Prissa

The only “Mystery” about the bible is HOW DO “SANE/RATIONAL” PEOPLE IN 2011 STILL BELIEVE IN ITS FAIRYTALES/MYTHS/RELEVANCY!

There isn’t any “END OF TIMES”, TIME WILL CONTINUE FOREVER!

There is ZERO REFERENCE TO TEH TRINITY IN THE OLD TESTAMENT! PLEASE DON’T MAKE UP STUFF, AND FILL THE THE BLANKS!

IT clearly states “Let us make Man in OUR IMAGE”… “MAKING THEM MALE AND FEMALE”, WHERE DO YOU GET “TRINITY” FROM THIS?

YOU DON’T!!!!

Sorry @setting but u are incorrect. The Old & New Testament ARE connected. That is why it says the prophesy was fulfilled when the didn’t break Jesus’s legs and then they gambled for his robe.

That was foretold in the Old Testament.

And u dnt havta get upset or irate. This is MY understanding of the Word. Its doesn’t have to b anyone elses

Raisin

The Jokes on you since you responded…you must feel guilty.

@RazeKane
Uhm, aren’t you responding back to me as well?

*looks down* What’s that on the floor? Oh, it’s just your face. -_- GOOD DAY!

@Prissa

Please USE CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS!
If I read a “book” and was WRITING “PART 2″ of that book, I would make as MANY CONNECTIONS IN THE “NEW” BOOK AS I COULD FOR CONTINUITY!

This is called “SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY”!

The Old and new testament are ONLY CONNECTED IN THE MINDS OF CHRISTIANS!

JEWS COMPLETELY REJECT THE NEW TESTAMENT!

The “Connections” weren’t made until 325 A.D Council of Nicea, PLEASE READ ABOUT IT!

THEY VOTED ON WHAT IDEAS AND BOOKS WOULD BE IN THE BIBLE!!!

THis is NOT SECRET OR HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE!

SoRry 4 multiple posts I’m on blkberry.

@setting – its all good this is MY understanding. It doesn’t have to b anyone elses. OUR image could b GOD Lord God and the angels for all I know. Who am I?

Dnt b so angry. If u dnt believe then that is your perrogitive. If u believe in somthing else that’s on u too. To each his/her own.

But these ARE MY BELIEFS AND UNDERSTANDING. Thank you

Raisin

That Remark was as corny as your name..you need to call it a night, miserable byotch.

@Prissa,

I’m in no way upset, I use “CAPS” for emphasis only!

I Understand that you have your beliefs, what I’m saying is I USED TO SHARE THE SAME BELIEFS AS A CHRISTIAN!

I no longer due, because I STUDIED AND FOUND INFO I WANS’T HAPPY ABOUT, BUT I HAD TO ACCEPT IT DUE TO THE EVIDENCE!

I wish I could be a “BELIEVER”, but the truth of the matter is: ONCE YOU RECEIVE JUSTIFICATION TO STOP BELIEVING SOMETHING, THEN ANY ATTEMPT TO HOLD ON TO THAT BELEIF IS A LIE AND DISHONEST AS WELL AS COWARDLY!!

Tip: Make sure you don’t write the letters “A S S” together, like in “P A S S I NG”.

The comment filter Won’t let it through!

Typo:
“Due” = “Do”
Sorry working and typing at the same time!

I dont believe in god nor in this end of the world stuff. Home boy just wasted his money.

SIMPLE:

The people who “WROTE” the New Testament, READ THE OLD TESTAMENT!

So they MADE as many CONNECTIONS AS POSSIBLE!

@setting – thanks. I thought it was becuz I’m on the blkbrry.

May I ask – what justification did u receive 2 stop believing?

7 dimensions… 7 chakra points… Something like that.

My Only Goal is To:

Stimulate “Believers” to be more PROACTIVE AND READ THEIR BIBLE/RELIGIOUS TEXT MORE!

It’s sad the there are more NON BELIVERS, who know more about the bible then “Believers”.
And it’s always the ones who know NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE who have the MOST TO SAY!

I’m not implying you, I’m just stating based upon my experiences, this rings true.

I Also believe that there is a strong REJECTION OF CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS in the Black Community!

Here we go again…

2nd post…

@setting – may I ask what justification u received that made u a non-believer?

17 Years ago someone challenged my beliefs, to DEFEND MYSELF I started STUDYING THE BIBLE MORE.

I Was always interested in Science, and knew what Science said. But was raised to believe that “Science” was the “Enemy” of Religion and “God”.

I studied a lot about Ancient Religions, the origin of Christianity, the more I searched the MORE I FOUND!

THen I went BACK INTO THE BIBLE AFTER PRAYING, AND HAVING A HEAVY HEART! At this point my eyes were opening and I was able to see the INCONSTANCIES, CONTRADICTIONS etc…

I felt hurt, It was like finding out you’ve been lied to your whole life!

@setting – why do u not believe?

I choose 2 believe because I’ve seen GOD work in my life 1st hand.

@setting – I’m so happy 2 read what u wrote!!

I believe that GOD is omnipotent. HE does know everything and everything has already been written. We r only waiting 4 it 2 end.

I believe this whole existence is a lesson (by default it’s a lesson 4 us) but I believe its a lesson 4 whoever Lord God is. To show him that after that 7th day no more neede 2 b done.

@ setta you sound like you been through alot of bad christian experiences no you have made your choice and we have made ours. Like you will see you said you can’t understa nd why we believe because you obviously don’t.You misread the bible and interpert in your own negative way.In revelation it talks about people like you in the end christians will outcast and disliked becaus of their beliefs it seems that part is true read it yourself

testing

@let me think
Actually I had nothing BUT POSITIVE EXPERIENCES BEING A CHRISTIAN(minus the reoccurring fear of hell and the “rapture”).
My PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, has ZERO to do with whether or not MY BELIEFS WERE BASED ON EVIDENCE/REALITY!
I was a Christian for About 16-17 years of my life, so I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND were religious folks are coming from.

I didn’t STOP BEING CHRISTIAN, because of BAD EXPERIENCES!
But because of LACK OF EVIDENCE!
Like I stated before, I DIDN’T WANT TO STOP BEING A “BELIEVER”, but AFTER SOMETHING HAS PROVEN TO BE FALSE HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IT?
Honest people can’t, HYPOCRITES CAN!

So what is this guys agenda?He wants to b the Jim Jones of 2011 w/o tryna make us drink the koolaid n just try 2 brainwash us?What is his point?And ppl that dont believe n GOD usually r the ‘blamers’.They feel the need 2 blame GOD 4 everything that went wrong n their life when really ur at fault 4 ur own sins as adult.If they would take the time 2 actually learn then mayb they would understand,so i just chalk that up 2 being unwise.No i dont feel sorry 4 anybody that thinks that way but i will continue 2 pray 4 GOD 2 have mercy on ur lost souls everyday.BTW,true CHILDREN OF GOD dont judge r throw stones b/c that would b hypocritical so obviously the “christians” u ppl encountered werent “christians” at all.

OMG,lmbo,lololol I had 2 come 2 the pc 2 read these CRAZY comments,lol.Wow that pastors kid is really angry cuz she a dummy,huh,lol.U thought u could reach heaven in a spaceship and GOD wrote the bible himself,lololol.That’s common sense that my 6 year old even knows the truth about.There really is no point of ya’ll goin back and forth about this b/c the nonbelievers truely r ignorant.People only get offended when they dont understand and try 2 find all the answers themselves b/c they dont want to accept the real answer.Only a weak minded person can let something r some1 change their own beliefs.Pathetic,lol

Prissa thanks for sharing. Allow me to stand with you in praise. My journey has been so awesome and blessed everday I know my path is ordered by His grace alone. You know we’re all God’s bad hard headed children They’re just scared. Studies in the book of Psalms, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes would give them knowledge, joy and peace. They will give praise before they leave this planet

Come on clarissa, scared of what? I am not afraid of a man made idea. The funny thing is that, you worship a an all powerful god that isn’t even powerful enough to defend itself. If you THINK about it (which christians+thinking is like oil+water= it doesnt mix) why do you have to speak on it’s behalf. Why can’t it just send me to hell or wherever I need to go so it can shut me up? If I had the powerful to create EVERYTHING, i would defend my creation, not the other way around…

During The next natural disaster i would love to see some christians go out and have a prayer circle around a tornado…or i would like to see the power of prayer stop a bullet, hasnt happend yet…or i would like to witness someone explain how a religion established through blood and warfare is holy and righteous? Its fear and power and a demand for your money wrapped up in song and hope…when i see a church still standing after a hurricane, ill believe but until then, ill leave the religion and christianity to the needy and weakminded.

@ prissa…so you prayed and got away from your kidnappers. Ok so was god a lil too busy for everyother parent whos children have been kidnapped and murdered? Your captor held your life in his hands, he made that decision..if you had been praying out loud and making him nervous you prolly wouldnt have been much more than a news story. Terrible example..also people our Ancestors did not come here off the boat thanking jesus for their new home, they were FORCEFED the nonsense, and it has perpetuted ever since through lack of desire to freely think. Its a systematic numbing of the mind, and A.A.’s cling to it so tightly…if god sees and values your heart, why the lArge churches? Same message could be delivered in a field…but yet suits and disguises AKA “church clothes” are needed to do what??

Also to every offering tray i put money into coming up…YALL OWE ME! IM COMING BACK FOR WHATS MINE!

@prissa, Are you stating that “God” favors you more so than any believer?
What about the many other people who have been in your situation before who did exactly what you did, “called out to him”?

If you didn’t call out to “God”, don’t you think the same out come may have taken place…?

It’s a matter of cause and effect…Because you thought of a way to get away from this bad person, the effect was you lived… Had you thought about something totally different, the effect would’ve been different too…

It’s all about the actions you take in your life that determines the out come…Not some fairy “God” maker….

@CutieReppinNY,
“BTW there are far more people in the world who take my religion seriously than those who don’t and that’s a fact. Who are you to say I don’t think for myself?”

Making that statement not only gave justification to let you know the amount of people who have the same believe system as you does not constitute it as being fact;hence, you’ve basically told on yourself that you don’t think for yourself…

” Also, every atheist I’ve ever run across came to be that way because of what they were told by another person, so maybe you should start thinking for yourself.”

Atheists, for the most part don’t listen to anybody. They look at things abstractly and go out and find the answers to their questions. It’s called research, you should try it sometimes…

Note: Research takes a lot of time and dedication and it’s not for the weak minded so be prepared in advanced for your findings, because you may not like what your conclusion is….

“Just because you don’t believe doesn’t make mine or anyone who believes wrong.”

No, it’s not wrong.Matter fact, I personally think it’s great you don’t believe in what atheist believe because you’re expressing your free will of expression… Unfortunately, you’ve just shown that you’re a number follower…

What is wrong is Christians who solicit their religion everyday of every waking hour…

Atheists don’t care if you believe because many of them belief in free will…

@G.M.
You are awful…lol…
Although if that occur, then that would solve the existence question… One question down one trillion more to go…lol…

@G.M.
lmao..You are awful…lol…
Although if that occur, then that would solve the existence question… One question down one trillion more to go…lol…

I remember before hurricane Ike hit Houston, I saw on the news that there were some christians in a prayer circle outside of their church trying to “convince the allmighty” to turn the hurricane away. I tell you, that didn’t work out in their favor. And to christians, do you hear about the faith healers? The ones that don’t take their children to the doctor for something that can’t be cured because they would rather pray it away. Then their children end up dead over something that could have easily been healed by a real doctor. Why don’t these kids get a chance due to the ignorance of their parents?

Jesus has come back, he is a Mexican man living in a mansion in FL. I saw him on CNN earlier this year. He calls himself Jesus Christ Man. He has a big congregation of backward idiots just like that black jew hustler had 2000 years ago. I wonder if a couple 100 million fools will believe in that cat from Mexico in 4011.

Lol@ Scatter, if that’s the case there are millions of jesuses especially in mexico and surrounding areas. They had a few that built my house lol..

The bible says no one knows the day nor the hour of when Jesus will come back.This man was misinformed about a lot of things

Im surprised them ppl didnt mention sumthing happening on 11/11/2011!!!!! Lol

@Amazing Atheist

Seriously, your are most enlightening. Have you read Eckhart Tolle? Yes those kind of Jesuses will try your nerves and I respectfully declined all offers to work on my properties or build a deck on my residence I like Atheist explanations and enjoy them more than any pimp preachers sermons because they really inspire people to read the bible and seek spiritural guidance and enlightenment for themselves. As a mere mortal please know that I respect your amazing atheist journey on this planet.

@ clarissa, thanks. It’s not about trying to deconvert anyone, it’s about getting people to open their minds. See in religion, you are told what to think from a very young age. I have an 11 week old daughter and everyone is asking when am I gonna get her christened. I just tell them that if she want to get into then that is her choice when she gets old enough to understand. IMHO, telling a child that they will burn in hell because some invisible man with a bad ego would get mad over petty stuff, is child abuse. Many of the self proclaimed christians didn’t have a choice in what to believe. I was brought up in the church. I started having doubts at a pretty young age, but it was hard to give up on because that how I was taught to think. I told my parents that I am breaking that chain with my daughter. She won’t be confirmed or baptized or whatever they do. When she gets old enough to understand and she wants to dabble in it then that’s her choice. A lot of people didn’t have options. And as I said before about the faith healers, their children are now dead because of their parents belief. They asked god to heal because they didn’t believe in doctors, god didn’t come through. What a backwards way of thinking.

lol just lost all his money

AmazinIdiot. Are you slow? You need to immediately back of God right now. My religion was not chose for me. My parents allowed me to research and make that decision on my own and what I found out is that GoD showed me who he was by working miracles in my life and never forsaking me. I know from some experiences in my life that it was him guiding me and working it out. Just because tornados happen and people die doesn’t mean there is no GOd! We do not already live in paradise! And for your information science and religion meet together. They can break down matter to the smallest atom molecule but there is a energy that makes that spark to the atom. That energy is God. I understand 90 percent of religions are false and misleading and tryn to gain money and control but..humans have a spirit and that spirit belongs to god. The body is just a vessel. This is the wrong time to start talkin about you Don’t believe in 2011. It says people will turn from there beliefs right at the end and get fooled. GoD has worked blessings and miracles in my life. Get it together and change your screen name nothing is amazin about someone who lacks the courage to believe and stand tall for Jesus

Of=Off. God is real. Only God can judge. No man knows the hour. EVERY Knee SHaLL BoW.

Lol well when god comes and tell me he is real himself, then maybe I’ll say that he is real. I still wouldn’t worship it though. Grow up.

Wow.

The irony here is that the Christians and atheists posting here sound identical in everything but theological principles. In fact, the atheists seem to be arguing even more vehemently that theirs is the true belief system… All boils down to human nature, I guess.

@ AmazinAtheist… For you to proclaim you are an army vet seems to establish that you’d be willing to fight for your morality and principles as symbolized by the US flag – but you’re adamant in criticizing others for their faith in their morality and principles as symbolized by God… Now, I hate to break it to you, but this is yet another irony given the history of the US government for being just as big a sham operation as organized religion.

Just… wow.

@deaya I said that in reply to someone who said I was I a nobody because I am an atheist. I’ve done more than a year of deployment than some of these folks done in their lifetime.

Yes, WOW JUST WOW!!….

So you don’t believe in God, but you believe in and WORSHIP the United States Government?!!? Are you serious!?!?….ROTFLMAOFF and *Literally Shaking My Head*

@say what,you hit that sh*t on the head, how is it that Amazing atheist/idiot believes in America so much that he is willing to go fight on it’s behalf ,yet he doesnt believe in God. Every one with a brain knows that America is the land of tricks and lies,and No Amazing Atheist it’s not god we should eradicate from our thoughts if we want to save humanity,it’s those white devils that need to be non existent in order to save the world

Ha. It’s may 21. It’s past 6. Where is this rapture, I wanna see dudes face! wonder what day he comes up with next

Well i feel sorry for him using all his money..

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