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Oh My GOOdness! Nah, she is dead wrong fa dat!!

She is wrong, even if it was a ‘normal’ kid.

She should’ve just turned the bus, back around and took him back to school..I can’t recall how many times I’ve had bus drivers do that when I was a kid..or she should’ve contacted the necessary people to let them know that she was not going to subject herself..

That is the reason that I don’t have children…

…I think that I may be a choker as well… hate my honesty if you must

OH…if it WAS my child I would have detonated that chick…ole girl on there…just lookin’ baffled…

I don’t think she was wrong.

It’s not funny but that mother knows damn well she does the same thing at home lol. It’s hard taking care of someone’s kids. He was by himself so I would have let him act out as long as he didn’t effect my driving.

Nope. He looks like a nut. Hope she can keep her job

Damn she made a mistake. I guess if he punched her in the damn face would she be wrong not to respond. I see his ass got quiet when she came back there. He need a Southern Azz whippin. Accidents happen when the driver is distracted. There should have been somebody on the bus. To the lady that lost her job keep ya head up boo!

(ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND)SHE WAS WRONG BUT SHE SHOULD HAVE NEVER LEFT THE SCHOOL WITH HIM WITHOUT A MONITOR.

SHE IS EQUIPPED TO DRIVE A BUS, SHE IS NOT EQUIPPED TO DEAL WITH A AGRESSIVE MENTALLY DISTRUBED CHILD.

if you don’t want your kids gettin’ smacked/choked up they need to know how to behave – the people taking care of your kids (teachers, busdrivers, babysitter, daycare, etc.) don’t make enough to be expected to put up with bad behavior.

That is out of line to choke a child – PERIOD!! There was a better way to handle this. Regular Ed or Special Ed – it doesn’t matter. No adult should be choking a child.

As a person who has worked with Mentally disabled adults and children this bus driver regardless if the child threw a shoe or hit her with a brick she should not have put her hands on that child.

Bus drivers need to be trained in behavioral crisis intervention in regards to handling all children not only children who are disabled. If this were my child I would be so upset, frantic, that this woman without any sort of sensitivity training would place her hands around my sons neck, slamming his head against the window. Then has the nerve to say, “have a nice day” as he was leaving the bus.

Shame on this bus driver and shame on the state of Texas and any state that allows a disabled child to be harmed and not immediately inform the mother. The child was just confused, scared, alone, the fear build up to the point the child became aggressive, she could have pulled over the bus called authorties to get the child some help.

I can’t even write anymore I feels so sad for this child, by what this video has shown.

This is ridiculous. He is handicapped, this means he has no idea what is to be considered right and wrong. Are you people stupid? Some of you claim that their parents should raise them, but the mother is obviously attempting to educate him and hopefully get him help. This woman needs to be fired. Nobody should choke a child, that just shows them it is right to do that when they are older.

She was not wrong…He throwing cans, cursing, yelling, hanging out the window,she had to do something…she tried to scare him straight..I bet he got his mind right after that..that was not abuse to me..i bet it didn’t hurt..but it made him realize she not the one to mess with..again she not a trained specialist for agressive mentally retarded kids..she did the best she knew how in that situation..there was no protocol on what she should have done…BUSSY YOU COOL WITH ME

all though i want to say that this lady is a complete douche for choking out the kid. i can’t. it has to be a pretty damn stressful job to drive mentally challenged kids and then to have one throw a can at you after the city failed to have a monitor on the bus has to drive a person nuts. shes still wrong for doing it but i can’t blame her at all.

I agree with lady ellea dn noone atall. I have dealt with asperger children and let me tell you it has not been a picnic in the park. These kids can be difficult and sweet when they want to and they have the oddest and most unpredictable mannerism. I feel, though the diver could have handled the situation in a different way, she it not trained to handle children with special needs and that is why there are monitors for situations like this one. I feel all she should have gotten was a reprimand and trained in the ways one should handle a situation like that when it does arise and perhaps told to go to the parents and apologise about the incident. nobody is perfect and I am sure that there are parents out there who have done worse than this little outburst.

Seriously though, the bus driver should never have been put in that situation. Knowing his capacity for that type of behavior and the fact that the monitor could not be present he should have been placed in restraints. Not only for the drivers saftey but his own.

I agree 159% with try me…She couldn’t have said it better…

blame it ALL on the system i tell ya. the child and the bus driver were both acting out their roles and non are too blame.

Seriously, what was ole girl supposed to do!? He her with a can! I don’t know if he was mentally challenged. He might be a little slow…but we are giving excuses. He was “smart” enough to curse and be violent…he was also “smart” enough to sit dat A down when he got choked out!! LOLOL!!!

I’m sorry but that lady needs sit at home and be paid by welfair. You can not go around choking mentally ill children on camera and admit you did it. Anither thing the mother need to sit on the bus and moniter him. He would not be throwing cans if she did her job. Sad

This woman should be fired IMMEDIATELY!No one has a right to choke or otherwise put their hands on anyone!When she took the job,she knew the risks involved in dealing with unruly children,mentally ill or not.If it was one of my children,she would still be trying to get my foot out of her ass!She could have just drove back to the school and told them the situation and they will have someone else deal with the child or have the mother come to pick him up.

i have a brother who is mentally disabled, he isn’t violent like the boy but if he was by chance i would kill whoever put their hands on him like that or in any way. i am also a teacher of the disabled and i would NEVER dare put my hands on a child like that or in any way. when we send childern with disablities to school we are entrusting those who accept the job to work with them. there should be no warnings with this woman and anyone does that. she should find another profesion.

He’s not too damn slow….throwing cans…..he sat is ass still after that….I don’t see the big deal….she didn’t hurt him

Seriously, what was ole girl supposed to do!? He hit her with a can! I don’t know if he was mentally challenged. He might be a little slow…but we are giving excuses. He was “smart” enough to curse and be violent…he was also “smart” enough to sit dat A down when he got choked out!! LOLOL!!!

She should not have done that at all. She should have pulled over and left his ass on the bus alone until somebody from the school or his momma can come and get him from the side of the road. I would have gotten off the bus and locked him in it until further notice!

leave BUSSY alone..how was she gone turn around and drive back to the school with the kid throwing sh!t at her and jumping round hanging out the window./I’m sure this incident was not in her job description…they should have locked that kid down if no monitor was there..noone goes to work to be abused..i’m sure that can hurt more than her puting her hand around his neck…that boy had plenty of sense to act right when she was done… he retarded but he know rap songs…and how to taunt someone…his mom done snapped on him before..she a lie if she say she didn’t…imagine 24hrs at home with him like that i’m sure she done did worse…Quit trashing tthat lady..

beeing a teacher around mentaly challenged children requires skills and traning. do not ever compare your training with that of a bus driver who is stressed and underpaid and overworked with situations she has no clue how to handle.what the hell are polititians there for? they should look into this things and find ways to improve them.

I think she should have turned around and took him back to the school and explain that is behavior was out of control and she couldn’t go on driving with him and let someone in his family come get him. I know she was frustrated, because he was acting extremely bad, but no matter what you not suppose to put your hands on them. She had to know she was on camera.

dapro

True story…

Mighty funny his ass calmed down after she choked him. As mentally challenged as he is, he understood that “sit down and shut up” means “sit the hell down and be the hell quiet”. You see how calm he was when he got off the bus?

still straddling the fence on this one….

I honestly don’t think she meant any harm. You can tell the way that she asks him, “what’s wrong?” at the beginning, and the way she says “see you tomorrow” at the end, that she was sincere. She talks to him as if she would her children. I just think her nerves were shook when he threw something at her, and she lost the patience that she had had with him. Now she was wrong for choking him, but I really do not think she meant any harm. But she’s an adult, and has to face the consequences of her actions.

You can warn these kid, threaten them and it is not going to make a world of difference. These kids have a disability which is at times behavior that they can’t control. Now for those that said that she should not have been punished if it was your child she choked and slammmed their head into a window you mean to tell me that you wouldn’t be upset.

Now being a bus driver and having a child with behavioral issues I know first hand that there should have been a monitor on the bus before the child got on. My son gets door to door service with a monitor and if there is not a monitor the bus by law does not transport my son to school or from school. They wiil not pick him up until a monitor is available. The school should have also been held responsible along with the bus driver for putting the little boy on the bus.

If you do not have a family member with behavioral issues then you do not understand and please not make a comment about a situation you could not possibly understand.

With special needs kids as long as the child is not doing anything to jeopardize the life of anyone including themselves also if the driver os not properly trained for the childs behaviors she cannot restrain or detain. Now the choking was a little excessive but physically restraining is okay as long as it doesnt physically come across as abuse.

Violence and cursing is learned, not apart of mental retardation….the only person who failed this boy is is mother for allowing him to act like that and make excuses for him….

HELL NO SHE WASN’T WRONG; YOKE THAT ASS UP!! A lot of times people say, oh he’s special needs, blase’, blase’. I can understand that part; but his disability doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he was doing. He had sense enough to put together and recite a rap song. This kid unbuckled his seat belt, and when she tore in to his ass, he got right. He knew right from wrong before he got on that bus. What I think was wrong was: 1) they set her up sending her to drive him without the aid of a monitor to help her during the ride (lack thereof clearly put both of their lives in danger) and 2) they were wrong for not letting his mother know what happened after the fact. The bus driver is a human adult and took a lot from him, but throwing that can at her? Oh man it was on. I don’t think she was wrong at all. She was human.

She wouldn’t have done that to a General Ed. kid. They would have whoop her ass.

One of those lazy ass teachers should have rode with the boy. They know how to deal with him better then the bus driver. No they too busy trying to get there asses home. When your children go to school don’t always think they are getting the right services.

She was dead wrong. You never put your hands on someone else’s child, period. Maybe she should’ve called dispatched and asked them how to handle out of control children. Lord, I hope she doesn’t have children of her own.

@TAMMY, what do you suppose teachers should try to do at the end of the day besides go home?

Maybe his lazy azz mama should drive him home everyday-knowing damn well he’s a traffic accident waiting to happen!

Apparently she wasn’t prepared to handle such a child. I guess hindsight is 20/20, but I still don’t believe you put your hands on someone else’s child. Period. Isn’t this why they have radios on the bus? I know she snapped. Lord knows I see people do that on their own children.

She shouldn’t have took the kid without a monitor, I don’t think she should be punished.

Sorry yall but I would’ve done the same thing! Them mentally challenged kids can get on your last nerves. Yall don’t know what that lady had to go through with him. Obviously she dealt with that ish everyday and got fed up. You really can’t blame anybody. Like when you was little and you made yo mama so mad that she just straight snapped on yo ass. That don’t mean she abusive but she just snapped. I probably would’ve slapped ole boy if that was me.

she is wrong! You cant just go around choking out mentally handicapped kids.

you can’t tell me that this boy’s mother never saw her son react that way before…why wasn’t the bus driver warned and given a chance to accept him on the bus or not….however she didn’t have to jack him up like that….that boy had one time to hum a can at me and I would politely turn the bus around and take him back where I picked him up and would have his parents or the school officials contacted

That boy wasn’t that damn mental, his sorry ass parents ain’t checking his ass. That boy knew how to stop when she rolled him up.He kept acting crazy because he knew he could. Children need to be corrected and those parents obviously were not whipping that ass. Yes, It was wrong for her to touch him,but when he started personally attacking her by throwing things- that’s self defense to me.

@ Karen

If these lunatic ass kids get on your nerves then find another profession. Watch what you say about children with disabilities because you may have one of your own. The bus driver does not have patients and she is probably abusive to her own children.

It not the mothers job to transport her child to and from school that what the bus companies are getting paid for. Now if the bus campany can’t run it’s business the right way then maybe they should shut dowm.

That is like me riding with one of my friends and she picks up three children that belong to one of her other friends and one hit me from the back seat and I get to choking him and slam his head in the car window. You don’t think his mama gonna be mad?

This is not a job for everyone. If you can’t handle it find another job. Don’t be beaten on someone eleses child because she can’t control her funky ass behavior.

Like I said the bus driver is wrong and so is the school department. They failed that childs parent.

Let some woman choke one of you guys children and I bet it be a whole totally different story. You will defend your child to then end. If you didn’t defend your child then something is wrong with you and not your child.

Hmph…Chokers of America unite. And why wasn’t the little badass on his medication? People with special needs kids need to understand that other people do not necessarily have the empathy or the patience to deal with them.

And no the bus driver didn’t tell him she would see him tomorrow when he got off the bus. lmmfao

Listening to half of these comments make me want to pass a law to have cameras in every facility that my children may go to when I’m not present. I wouldn’t want no one that agrees what the bus driver did was right no where around my children. Some of you guys sound like some very sick individuals. I don’t want grown ass sick people around my children.

Umm, I was brought up in a school that allowed physical punishment…and I have been jacked by my momma plenty when I got out of line. My gauge was when he calmed the hell down AFTER she grabbed him, which indicates that he knew that what he was doing was inappropriate. Maybe if his momma had choked him out a few times at home he wouldn’t be cutting the fool on the bus!

He yelled and screamed…she told him she was coming back there

He yelled and screamed some more…she warned his bad ass again

He threw that can…she choked his ass

He had ample warning.

they suspended her then gave her her job back and hnow that the news is talking about it, they fired her again. Yes she should have had a monitor but who’s to say they both wouldn’t have choked him?

Bernie would say a kid can get chopped in the throat…

Tammy love, raise and discipline your children and you won’t have too much to fear. In my generation we didn’t have all of the foolish that’s going on today. We were loved, raised and disciplined, not defended for every WRONG thing we did.

In my generation we didn’t have all of the “foolishness” that’s going on today.

If we raised our children to respect adults then this wouldn’t be opened for discussion.

If parents took more responsibility for their children and disciplined them instead of leaving the disciplining up to the teachers then teachers would be able to concentrate on teaching.

IF THE LIL MUFUKKAS SIT THE HELL DOWN ON THE BUS AND ACT LIKE THEY GOT SOME UPBRINGING THEN THE BUS DRIVER WOULDN’T HAVE TO YOKE ‘EM UP!!!!!!!!!

If he wass “medicated” why wasn’t he strapped in???

lOL!!!!!!!!

Child shouldn’t have been choked but the usual bus monitor was absent that day which help’d to escalate the situation when the kid threw the soda(?) can at the driver.

She overreacted and the parents should have been notified but a written reprimand on the bus driver seems in order in this case. It was an unfortunate incident but the poicies should be made known in this situation to all drivers to hopefully avoid any other similar incidents.

Some kids need to be home schooled in my mind.

policies.

corrected.lol

The boy was not hurt in this situation and the driver had to do something to make him settle down. Maybe choking him was not the best solution but I don’t think she should lose her job over this. She is a bus driver, not a psychiatrist. Maybe that is how she handles her own kids when they get out hand. Personally, I don’t care if your blind, deaf, disabled or “crazy” I am going to defend myself against ANYONE that is attacking me, period. Sorry but that is my honest opinion.

i think she should have handled it a different way.

I would of done it. lol

As a person who works in direct care with mentally ill people, I can understand where that bus driver was coming from. Who knows what other challenges she faced earlier that day. The school should have notified the parents when a monitor was not available to transport the child. Some families can’t even control their child but they expect a stranger to be able to do it. I feel bad for the bus driver but she wasn’t right to do violence on the child no matter how aggravated she had gotten so that is where the monitor was necessary to deflect the behavior of the student. It’s hard to try to drive and be distracted by someone throwing things at you.

Notice how the school made her the fall guy when they were the ones at fault to begin with.

uh oh Nikki they gave you a shout out!!!

uuuh, lil dude ain’t so mentally challenged if he takes direction after being joked.

Someone at home needs to adminster/instill some sort of discipline.

After veiwing this, it is obvious (ole girl is in the wrong), that lil dude comprehends what he can and can not get away with.

Therefore, someone needs to raise the parenting from mentally challenged to mildly challenged.

@ Karen 2

The child was disabilied. Unless you worked with a child like this then you don’t know. And if you have worked or working with children like this leave your job immediately.

It don’t have nothing to do with parenting. Most of these kids get love and care at home it’s just the way there brains are mapped out. You need to go to the library and do so some research before you make a comment. There are retraints to use on children and it’s not choking and slamming heads into windows. It’s not that he was doing something wrong it is an illness that he can’t control. I don’t care how much loving and schooling he gets this is an illness he will carry with him for the rest of his life.

Please don’t ever work with children period. And I hope to god you don’t have any.

All the people that believe the bus driver was right go to the library do some research about children with disabilities because you are really clueless.

don’t worry, most of the bad asss retarded know EXACTLY what’s up .. good for her – you do see how he stopped though, haha

Of course she was wrong. That is not even a question. You dont put your hands on other people children, mentally challenged or not. For all those people that have children and care about them, knows what it feels like if you see or hear that someone did that to your child. SHE WAS WRONG. SHE NEEDS HER NECK CHOKED!

SHE DID RIGHT AND I AGREE WITH BABY GIRL

I DONT THINK SHE WAS WRONG..BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED BETTER..SHE DID GET HIM 2 ACT RIGHT..MAYBE THATS WHAT HE NEEDS A HOME..A LITTLE CHOKING HERE AND THERE..BUT I ALSO THINK ANYONE THAT WILL BRING HARM 2 ANYONE FOR NO REASON SHOULDNT BE ABLE 2 LEAVE THEIR HOUSE OR SHOULD BE PUT IN A CRAZY HOUSE..

She wasnt wrong… but had it been my child I would’ve had to tear homegirl a new asshole!

First of all you know this woman is not paid very much so therefore she probably only has a high school diploma with that being said she like what a lot of people are saying was not trained to handle a situation like that. She should have been reprimanded like some people have said and then made to go through training. Here in Houston some schools have monitors for the specially challenged. My aunt is a special ed teacher and she has had to ride on the bus every now and then.

After she chokes the kid, choke the mom. Ill is ill but even mentally challenged people know when wrong is wrong and they’re wrong. Kudo’s to the driver.

@Tammy,

Thank you for your very educated post. Its one of the few that are actually shedding light on the situation. Its interesting that so many of these black females are supporting this kind of behavior when record numbers of their sons are being deemed mentally ill and put in special education. Maybe we should all sit and enjoy someone choking thier out of control children.

I’ve dealt with children with server mental illeneses and you dam right its hard but it is only for the educated and sympathetic. Those two qaulities exclude the vast majority of black females who are under educated and vindictive.

Am I wrong to suggest that there should be jobs that black females arent allowed to have? Basically any job where she has to deal with other human beings? Maybe she can should do data entry or clean toilets. The larger public would be a lot safer.

and I did mean Mentality

@tTruDiva,

That little girl in your gravatar is very cute. Can I choke her if she throws something at me?

If I were that bus driver, I would of ______ the shyte out of that boy

Shout out to Nikki U.

lmao at all da different opinions on this topic..i guess i undastand wha u all r tryin 2 say..dont mean to laugh, but lol @ “see u tomorro, ok?” at the end, like nothn happened! ha! hehe

Flawdagurl

She wasnt wrong… but had it been my child I would’ve had to tear homegirl a new asshole!

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YOU SOUND LIKE A TRUE DUMB ASS like the many others!

She was wrong…but she was at her wits end…no excuse though.

That being said…it worked.

I don’t know what they pay bus drivers in Texas but in Boston the starting pay for bus driver is $24.00 dollars an hour and monitors are $18.00 hr. But regardless of how much you get paid you do not abuse a child. If I was the mom I would just let the law suit speak for me. Let’s see if the child or the bus driver would win. I bet the child would.

that’s probably what all the “mentally challenged” kids need an a** whupping and a headlock. And yes I’m a mother who will yoke her kids up with the quickness…that’s what my momma did…

The driver was dead wrong, and the parents SHOULD be outraged, and the driver should be fired (if not prosecuted). If she knew the child had mental problems and he got out-of-control, then she should have pulled over and called for help. You can’t lose it on a kid like that.

Now…that’s my official answer and I’m sticking to it, but I have to admit, he *DID* seem to calm down after she choked him. (I’m so ashamed because I’m cracking up right now).

Since the mid to late 80′s the white doctors have been diagnosing children with add or adhd or now its autism. When I was in junior high school back in the early 80′s – the nun’s were allowed to spank us with rulers. In the 70′s the teachers spanked you in class if you didn’t behave. We were some well disciplined kids. Hell, all my mother had to do was give me a look. I didn’t get beat that often because I was afraid of her. The kids nowadays or lazy, disrespectful little ingrates. And I won’t think TWICE about laying my foot in one of their asses. Has anybody noticed how many kids are given the diagnoses of being “mentally challenged”. While there a legitimate cases, most parents just want their children medicated with something so they don’t have to deal with them. G-d bless the generations coming up behind us. Because they’ll be some seriously f–ed up individuals.

@WOW: I just choked on my drink I was laughing so hard at your comment. You are going straight to hell in a handbasket for that one LMFAO.

On a serious note the school should not have expected the bus driver to be able to contain that kid, she doesn’t have the training for it. I don’t think she should be fired, but the child shouldn’t be allowed on the bus without a monitor. If no monitor is available then his parents need to go to the school and get him even if they have to leave work.

@Tammy>>>I totally agree w/your posts. Damn, some people are straight up violent. I was whipped just like everyone else, but damn. I hope some people do themselves and society and favor and don’t breed. Lord knows there’s enough child abuse in this world (there is a difference between child abuse and whipping, but some people on here sound real scary. I can guarantee you if someone laid a finger nail on my child, there would be hell to pay. Trust and believe that. I do, however, believe this child should not have been on that bus, but the driver could’ve handled it differently. Grown people should have control over themselves (yeah, right) and not act like children. She was wrong and she got what she deserved.

lils i feel you but let someone else yoke your kid up? i check my kid but everybody else but his mother better come to me if they got a problem and let me handle the discipline. period

@ Kigali–

Why you trying to take me there??

If she threw something at you, I’d CHOKE her!!!

Lol!!!!

Naw seriously– I’m not going to sit up here and act like Mykel doesn’t do any wrong but at the same time, I don’t have a problem dealing with her when it’s warranted. Like I tell her “It won’t be ME who’ll be embarrassed!”

Lol!!

She gets her bottom swapped when it’s warranted. IN ADDITION– The time is taken out and she’s taught the err of her ways!

TRUST and BELIEVE THAT!!!!!

Enjoy your weekend folks but please remember–

“Spare the rod and spoil the child!”

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1TruDiva…

Wasn’t that some funny sh*t? She was probably thinking, “I’m going home to get my drink on and I’ll be back for round 2 tomorrow.”

Now I see why bus drivers stay in their seats when some kid is getting beat down on the bus. Hell, they probably deserve it.

It is a shame that our people can still be so ignorant. Do your homework and go to the library or on the internet and do some research on behavioral disabilities and mental illness in children and adults.What would you do if you had a child that was challanged? Some things may show up later in life, not always after birth. One day I was watching the news and there was this girl- she was 13 years old but very small for her age due to her being born with cerebral palsy. This poor baby was STARVED TO DEATH AND WAS COVERED IN BED SORES, HUMAN WASTE, DEHYDRATED, AND FILTHY!!! You ask why? Because her momma was too cheap and sorry to get the proper care for her(but she kept getting that SSI check!) and too trifling to do the basic daily care for this kid.The mother could have had her insitutionalized but noooo!! mom’s would have had to give up that check! When she was recieving care from a special school that she was in she thrived, happy and healthy but no… mamma took her out and sent her to live with her father who sent her back home after his now ex- girlfriend( bless her heart, I said GIRLFRIEND) could no longer take care of her- what the hell was he doing?? The ex- girlfriend took care of this child as if she were her own and this was not even her kid !! When the girl was sent back home everything went down hill, The “mother” did not feed, bathe ,interact seek medical care, or see about her well being. She just kept her in a room with the door closed while her other kids were well cared for. Eventually, the poor kid wasted away from starvation and dehydration.(but mom’s kept getting that check!). The “mother” should be going to trial soon.Now some of you who were making those mean ignorant comments need to check youselves, and those who are drinking and doing drugs while pregnant(you know who you are) all I can say is Karma is a MF.The social workers who were supposed to be of help are in trouble also.

@justvisitin

…niiiice…

@Tammy, for some reason, I don’t think she signed up for the job of transporting a lunatic or being ABUSED. And, yes it IS the PARENTS job to make sure their child receives the care they need. He obviously needs something more than a regular school can give. He obviously needs a good choking from time to time.

His behavior was over the top. His is a BEHAVIORAL problem. His behavior puts others at risk.

Yes, the MAMA needs to transport her own crazy azz acting son if that’s the way he behaves.

Stop dropping your problems off at the schoolhouse door and expecting people to perform miracles you can’t pull off yourself.

@TAMMY, I’m sorry, but if your children act like that, you need to do more than pass a law mandating cameras. You need to TEACH YOUR DAMN KID HOW TO ACT.

My child knows how to go to school and act, so I don’t feel the need to push for cameras. And if he was acting up like that, trust, I would’ve had NO problem with that woman gathering the clothes up around his neck. I would’ve been wanting to go through the camera on his azz my damn self!

@justvisitit

Do your research before you make a comment. You sound real young and stupid. Do the world a favor and stay as far away from children as possible. Please, please never have children of your own.

i have a mentally challenged person in my family, and i can only imagine if something like that happend to her. i personally believe that it was the driver and the systems fault. the driver had no right to get up and choke that child. he has special needs so she needs to realize that he didnt do that on purpose. its the systems fault because had they had a monitor on the bus as requested, then that never wouldve happened. both the driver and the system are held responsible and something needs to be done before something like that happens again…..or worse.

@ Karen

That’s a shame. You would tell a person to kill your child if they act up. Boy you need DSS in your life. That bus driver could have killed that child by choking them. I can’t believe you have a child. Lord I pray for them.

Like I said before if you CAN’T handle the job invest into another profession.

DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DON’T MAKE SOMEONE ELESES LIFE MISERABLE BECAUSE YOURS IS.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT UNEDUCATED WOMEN.

As a special education teacher, I am appalled at this woman’s behavior. It is obvious this student has some severe behavior issues which may or may not be within his control. To physically assault a special education student, or any student, is awful and damaging physically, mentally and emotionally to that student.

peace out people

I am finishing up my degree and I plan on teaching special needs children.I feel very strong about this and it is a shame. First of all this is probably not the first time this kid has acted up. So it’s not a surprise. Second- He has a problem and you can’t blame him for a condition he didn’t ask for.Third- That dude is buggin if he’s like it’s not the bus drivers fault. She should have been calm enough to handle it or ignored him and if that wasn’t working take it out on the company not that child.Lastly- They don’t pay enough for people to want to be moniters and it’s a hard job so they need to figure out how to get some one on a perminent basis.She should have been fired and if it was MY KID I’d go crazy on her. I would love to see how she would respond if I choked her.

I would have choked his ass too!

“He started rapping”. Bwhahahahahhahahahah! He cannot be to crazy, when she got off in his azz he calmed down. If he can learn to rap he can learn to keep his ass in line! As for the bus driver she should look into civil action against the school dist., She needed a monitor! Without a monitor he could have caused an accident.

I believe the bus driver acted in a way that was appropriate to her understanding. She is driving a bus and this child is throwing objects at her, thus leaving both she and the child endangered. If that object had hit and injured the driver, then both she and the child could have faced dire consequences. I have a Master’s in education, and however many theories I have learned over the course of my education, I believe that firm discipline (getting set straight) has never produced damage. True, the bus driver acted in a manner that was excessive, however I can completely understand the logic.

It also seems that the child’s parents have really gave in to his behavior. Despite his mental health challenges there is a such thing as establishing boundaries in behavior. I say this because this child will soon be an adult, and the kind of behavior he exhibited can result in unfavorable consequences from someone unaware of his concerns.

@ A moment in the dark…

Person, please stop with the references to what you allegedly do at your day job; your claims have no credence. Like I mentioned before, I would bet all the money you have in the bank that you are not willing to reveal your actual person to anyone on this site. Not only would that be stupid, but all of us “regular folk” still wouldn’t care. Do you know what people do when they want to be entertained? They watch, read, or listen, but they don’t actively participate or that would be a little thing called “entertaining yourself.” Whatever the case, all you are doing is making yourself out to have a great deal of signifance, only with respect to a screen name, though. You win; we all believe everything you write behind your screen name and paragraphs. SMH at you for thinking you are a prized posession. And if your substance can be found in the Wall Street Journal or New York Times, no wonder that industry is headed out of business; they don’t do enough screening for imposters.

JESUS LOVES EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU

CALL ME CRAZY BUT I DIDNT SEE HER CHOKE HIS NUTTY BUTT SHE CORRECTED THE TARD AND THE LOSER PARENTS JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO SUE

The parent is wrong cause not everybody knows how to deal with chidren like that. Not everybody is going to treat them as if there own mother or spealist would. Think about it. If a bad ass child threw something at you while you were drivimg you would get mad to. Remenber, he’s retarded not dumb.

Look at TAMMY getting all emotional in this thread. I take it your child has no home training and acts up as badly as the one on that bus.

A person should go back to school and retrain for another profession, why? Because some people can’t control their kids?

Trust me, there’s a reason MOM’S not driving her own damn kid to and from school–and it’s not just because she has to work. There are A LOT of parents with special needs children who work things out so that they can give or get their child adequate assistance. Other lazy azzes would rather drop them off on a school’s doorstep so they can get an 8 hour break each day.

Then, you go on a stretch and ask if I’d prefer someone KILL my child because he acts up. #1 NEVER in a million years would my child EVER act out like that. Because I consider it MY job to get that in check–and I WOULD.

Secondly, who said anything about KILLING a child? Hell, he could’ve killed her or caused her to kill someone else on the road with that 10 ton piece of metal she was wielding.

His issue was BEHAVIORAL. Notice how his BEHAVIOR seemed to change once she put that proverbial foot in dat azz. Proof positive that kid does not have MENTAL challenges. He knew what “I’ll whup dat azz” meant and calmed down, didn’t he?

I am so happy many of you didn’t choose the career path I did. A teacher. You never ever no matter what touch a student in harmful way, even if they are throwing things and screaming.

In a way I feel sorry for the bus driver, she probably wasn’t trained on what to do in this type of situation. But again, you never touch a child in a harmful way…..

I think some of you are mentally challenged or just damn cruel. I have a mentally challenged family member. If that was my fam, I’ll probably be in jail for kicking that bus drivers azz.

First of all for a lot of special children they dont understand pain. They know something not right, but they dont know how to respond to it…that why the child calm down for that moment!!!!!! He went right back to his abnormal behavior.

Secondly, he should have had an aide on the bus. The parent should call the vice principal for an IEP. He could have harm the driver/self or both. In any case the driver should have been trained to deal with this type of situation!!!

Furthermore…the child cant help his BEHAVIOR…it’s obvious that his issue!!!!!!

Finally, most parents are not lazy. Maybe the parent doesnt have a car, the school to far away the accomodate the childs needs! You saw for yourself that the child cant take public transportation!

Get your facts straight, stop assuming and you wont sound like an ASS!!!!!!!

@Karen and Vgeezy,

Even if the child has behavior problems you still dont choke them. You think abuse is going to make children better behave? No, it just makes them more angry and violent and while they may be too afraid to act up around you who is to say that wont take their frustrations out on themselves, other children, their teachers, their brothers and sisters? So it is no wonder that black children are over represented in child abuse cases. And its no wonder that despite the fact that black children are being beat, hit, or whatever they remain the most uncontrollable in school. This means that if your child is in a class with these kids their learning may suffer.

And as far as I am concerned most black mothers dont hit their children to correct or punish, they hit them to relieve stress. Their children are nothing but punching bags.

@mad as hell,

Thank you. Taking care of a special needs child takes alot of knowledge and training and who is to say that that woman has to ability, resources, or the knowledge to do it?

You would think that these females in here who love to celebrate single motherhood would sympathize with not only a mother who might be a single one but one of a special needs child.

@1 Tru Diva,

I had to take it there because if you agree that this bus driver was in right then the conclusion is that somoene can do that to your child. In any event, I dont want you to choke any of your children. There is physical punishment and there is vindictive abuse. Too many black females dont know the difference.

first of all,that boy should have had a monitor on the bus regardless,if they had to wait for a monitor to come to the school then thats what they should have done. I agree the bus driver should not have choked the boy. She could have stopped the bus,allowed him to calm down,restrained him, or took him back to the school etc.

Wow…Some of you people are fricken ignorant as hell!!! I HOPE none of you who said she was right at what she did DONT have kids, BUT you probably do.

She should NOT have choked that child!! Whether he was cussing,throwing stuff,yelling,unmentally ill or mentally ill… She should’ve tried driving and getting him to whereever. If she couldn’t do that, stop the bus and call someone. NOT TAKE it into her own hands.

Kigali, A moment in the dark, Monica, Mad As Hell, Lacey, Lia, Old School and Tammy…are sanity in a sea of jackasses.

if you know one thing, its that she is a SPECIAL ED BUS DRIVER. Not regular kids, SPECIAL ED kids.

Thank God the psycho was terminated.

If you remember one thing, its that she is a SPECIAL ED BUS DRIVER. Not regular kids, but SPECIAL ED kids.

Thank God the psycho was terminated.

IT IS NEVER OKAY FOR ANY “PROFESSIONAL” TO PUT THERE FLIPPING HANDS ON ANYONE’S CHILD ESPECIALLY A CHILD WITH “INCONVIENCES” THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE TIME TAKEN WITH HIRING BUS DRIVERS AND ALL PARAPROFESSIONALS THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE PROPERLY TRAINED AND SCREENED ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH CERTAIN POPULATION. THEY ALSO NEED BUS MONITORS AND SEAT BELTS IN ALL STATES.

this kid needs help the mother and the bus driver. the driver took on human nature. the kid could of killed them both. the driver she wants to get home as well for the kid. what he did was seriously dangerous and he knew it.

She was wrong for choking the child, but even I might have put my hands on him. Just being honest.

She signed up to drive the bus. She didn’t sign up to monitor a child with mental issues. If he has mental issues he needs to be in treatment or on meds.

A lot of you “parents” don’t teach your children how to behave and then expect someone else to do it. I am so sick of seeing bad behavior from children (with or without disabilities) toward adults. You have to know that not all adults have high tolerance for bad behavior. Therefore you need to raise your children at home.

You’re so upset with what the busdriver did, but that little joker was out of control.

I don’t care how many disabled children you’ve worked with…she wasn’t hired for that purpose. Don’t ask her to do something she wasn’t hired or trained to do.

I don’t think she should be fired, but I think she should be suspended. I have seen teachers do much worse when breaking up fights or controlling unruly children.

Teachers and school workers are asked to do entirely too much. They are not trained or paid for combat. This is not the military.

If you parents would take care of the discipline at home and act like you had some sense, the kids would too. You’re too quick to make excuses for why little Johnny acts like a zoo animal…quick to run to the doctor and get pills… But slow to be a real parent and inpart some discipline.

As soon as she did what she did, he straightened right up, so he can’t be too off. He knew what he was doing resulted in consequences. Stop coddling these little bad seeds…and get some fortitude to handle your own rugrats.

(Yes, I volunteer with kids…but they know from the start not to get out of line…)

lol

THIS IS WHY DALLAS IS BACKWARDS & WHACK!!!! they are going to spend a million+ dollars on more old a** VCR tapes, but they DONT HAVE THE MONEY to hire trained professional aids to prevent this from happening???! they want to have a tape catch it! but why?? they didnt even fire the lady or tell the parents when this incident happened! I live in dallas and HATE IT!! i work with special needs children and they are treated like crap in comparison to “normal” kids. they care nothing about them, they just allow them to bide time, as long as they dont act out. then they suspend them and send them home for longer than usual timeframes! cant wait to move, come one 2010.

DALLAS DOESNT LIKE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS, like Bush doesnt like Black people! LOL!

I have worked with and lived with the mentally challenged. It is very frustrating on both ends. It still starts in the home. Regardless of how challenged they are they need to be taught how to conduct themselves as though they are normal. I blame the mother,and system for lack of assistance. Your never paid enough to handle a job like this. The driver was possibly faced with a close call accident, conjestive roads, and distractions. Both possibly could’ve been hurt. Driver did what she had to do to gain control of the situation, because nothing was working. To the mother: Try very hard to raise your child as though he is normal and you ride the bus with him and show him how to behave in public (social skills will help in the long run)my mother did.

Bottom line the county should have had a monitor on that bus, and it wouldnt have happened.. That lady was a bus driver, she is not trained in handling mentally challenged kids/adolesants. I probably would have reacted the same way..If she didnt get up to defend herself, who knows the boy going crazy could have caused an accident. This is an example resulting of this lady not having a job shows how our beuracracies and courts have failed us….

I know she was probably at his wits end with the kid but chocking him was wrong.

She should have tried to restrain him in his seat using the belts or call back to her place of employment and tell them she was taking the child back home because she couldn’t handle him and there was not a monitor on the bus to make the kid behave.

Again how could she drive at all with this challenged kid screaming hitting her and jumping around…How was she going to get off the bus and call someone..the intercom thingie is inside the bus with the challenged kid…That boy has more sense than these people give him credit for and i bet his mom knew this…like someone said she is just looking for someone to sue…this kid is dangerous and shouldn’t be around other people without constraints…I don’t want to call him a lunatic or animal…but he is exihibiting the traits…don’t blame the bus driver for being scared of what his next move will be..it seems he was getting worser ad worser until she stopped him…as far as choking you can tell he wasn’t gagging so i’m sure she wasn’t trying to crack his neck..only to scare him because she was scared..he was the agressor..who’s going to trust to go back to school with him on the bus not knowing what he will do next..if he attacked her while she was driving he would have killed them both..the best action was taken as far as i see ..for this situation..her intentions was not to hurt him…she didn’t curse him or apply exessive force

And I have noticed over 80% of the people on here agree the child was able to comprehend after the busdriver put her foot down…maybe he needs this at home….And as far as some posts are saying they hope certain people don’t have kids..i’m sure most will agree if your child is in the wrong and is disciplined with love it is ok… in this case this mom’s child was dead wrong…and yes that kid knew what he was doing…getting off the bus when she said she will see him tomorrow he said ok…he wanted to say ….”thank you for showing me some discipline i don’t get it at home..i thought i could go around acting like this…now i know different..I will be happy to see you tomorrow…thanks again”

If that tard was a member of my family, I woulda mopped that busdriver.

BUT since he aint…

In her defense…

Cans are HEAVY.

A THROWN can can inflict a LOT of damage.

What if the can had hit her in the head, knocked her out, and caused a wreck that could have resulted in loss of life?

After he got choked out, did he throw anything else?

OMG… that phucking terrible!

Um… that’s probably what he needed in the first place. From his parent though. Still inappropriate.

…and yes that kid knew what he was doing…getting off the bus when she said she will see him tomorrow he said ok…he wanted to say ….”thank you for showing me some discipline i don’t get it at home..i thought i could go around acting like this…now i know different..I will be happy to see you tomorrow…thanks again”

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a to the MEN

i wanna kno what these people that are saying we dont need to have children would do if this mentally hadicapped boy hit and hurt one of their children. i wonder how would they react?

i got my ass whooped as a child. and i am fine. i feel like whoop a childs ass NOW and they wont whoop you or somebody in society ass LATER. now do you want me to whoop his ass NOW or steal your purse and pistol whip you LATER.

now that doesnt apply to the mentally challenged boy. but he could very well hurt other children. he need his ass whooped to learn right from wrong.

the only people allowed to get away with that type of behavior is alzheimers and dementia people. they truely dont know. because they will turn around and do the same thing again. they jus need meds and a locked unit.

Although I think she was wrong for letting this one incident jeprodize her job, I understand. And I also understand that if I was this childs mother I would have wanted to beat the sh*t outta her ass lol.

But I really believe that the mother is using her child’s mental dissability as an excuse for her childs bad behavior. Notice how his ass wasn’t acting up after she went back there and chocked him. That let’s me know that HE CAN behave if he is disciplined. BUT, the bus driver really should have just taken the child back to his school, or just dealt with it, atleast she’d still have her job.

Her defense should be “I became mentally challenged after he threw that cup at me.”

My son is special needs and he knows right from wrong. He is only 6, but he knows better than to throw anything at an adult. However, she was wrong, if it was my son – it would have been on. There is a better way it could have been handled.

I wish that we could go back to the old days when everyone on the block could whip your A– if you got out of line. That is what wrong with these kids now “DON’T HIT THEM”,TALK TO THEM”, “PUT THEM A TIME OUT”. What the HELL ever I would have whipped his ass too. If he would have hurt his self on that bus rolling around like a fool, it would have been her fault.If he would have jumped his ass out of theat window,it would have been her fault. If she would have loss control of that bus when he threw what ever it was at her and killed his lil butt, it would have been her fault. COME ON PEOPLE!!!! THE SCHOOL SYSTEM fault them both. If there was no one else to ride that bus with her than the parents should have been called to pick him up. She can’t win. BUT, his lil a– got his mond right after that, so that go to show you. We give our kids to many cruthes.

He didn’t seem too messed up about it when he got his little ass off he bus. I bet he acted better the next day.

ya’ll…dont really think she is to blame..we all loose it sometimes..and for ya’ll hu say she is evil…im sua even the pope himself lost it sometimes within him…so chilax.

and im sure she wudnt have killed him…at least she admitted to it and apologised..

@thepromised1,

You have to distinguish between revenge abuse and physical punishment. You can only punish someone with the capacity to understand right and wrong. Its why you dont beat infants. The infant doesnt have the capacity to know that they are doing wrong.

Most of the people here are supporting this bus drivers revenge choke of this child. It had nothing to do with ensuring his or her safety but revenge.

Is there any wonder why black children are over represented in child abuse cases? Is there any wonder why black children, despite the fact that they are getting beat are still uncontrolable?

I am not talking about spanking.

I mean “CITING” that material in the previous post… typing too fast

She should’ve stopped and called for help on the radio. She needed the monitor, for his safety and for her safety as well. I probably would’ve grabbed him up too, it didn’t realy look like she choked him. After it happen he was calm and even got off the bus calmly.

His mother was making excuses for his behavior when she really needs to beat his ass.

*not should be *now… I am now an attorney. LOL

it seems like they are pitting mentally retarded latino’s agains vicious black women. C’mon. If I was a bus driver and had a kid on my bus like that, I would mostly ignore the kid.

I feel sorry for the driver. If your kid cant handle being on a bus, they bus your own kid.

then agian, Im not surprised, America is a poor country and cant provide for its children anyway. We will all be as crazy as that kid in afew years with this economy.

I do believe that the bus driver was wrong. Children will be children. They will curse, hit, and do whatever their minds tell them because they don’t know or understand the concept of respect and self-control. So, if we can’t expect that from a child, we can definitely not expect that from a child who is mentally challenged. We can, however, expect respect and self control from an adult. The behavior from the bus driver is inexcusable. With that said, I ask myself what would I have done. Would I have ignored him or would I allow him to get to me? I personally would not do anything, I would make sure there is no harm to me or the child. But I am a person with experience with children, I have been working with children 2-16 for 5 years, I know how to deal with them. But this woman may not be so lucky. In dealing with mentally challenged kids, one must be trained extensively, If not, a situation like this is inevitable. While I blame this woman for her lack of self control, I also blame whoever authorized the child to get on that bus with her.

@The Promised1,

I am not talking about your situation. I am talking about verbal abuse, burnings, being thrown down a flight of stairs and yes being choked. That isnt about discipline at all. There are many situations wher you shouldnt proceed in anger. Its stops being about discipline and starts being about your anger.

I do sympathize with you. I am not arguing infavor of empowering the state over the parents but there are too many parents who dont know that there is a fine line between what happened to us as children and what we are now doing to our children with very poor results.

Good luck in raising your children.

To those who just are not understanding the real issues at hand, some mentally challenged children can respond to disipline and some cannot. It depends on what the child was diagnosed with and what their symptoms are. Until you know the complexities of these disabilities and illnesses,what may work for one kid may not work for the other. This is a very bad situation, for both the child and the bus driver. We all know that due to the fact that alot of educational programs and school funding are being reduced and cut, the services to these children are very limited so you will see situations like this- not having the qualified staff to handle situations like this one. I have a family member who has autism and yes, he got disiplined and it helps up to a point.There was only so much that my parents could do and only so much that he is able to comprehend. This has been a very long and stressful process in trying to raise and help my brother, he is now 40 years old and is actually getting worse in some areas-no he does not hit ,is not violent towards others as dsoes not throw things, but other areas where the average person(or an ignorant one) may not may not undrstand that he has a disability. Those of you who have not had to deal with a challenged child cannot judge and say “I would have choked ,whooped him ect”.You do not realize what the parents and families of these children go through.I will never forget the time when my brother may have been about 12 or 13 tears old and he had an outburst that only his regular teacher could deal with but she was out that day and they had a substitute. Instead of asking for help or calling my dad, the “sub” decided to take matters in his own hands and have each one of the students use a ruler to hit my brother on the hand to “disipline him”. well you know when he came home he was a wreck emootionally and he could not express to my father what happened becuase he is limited in the process of expression due to his disability. The only way my dad found out was when the regular teacher came back the next day and told us about the incident, and she just happened to here about it through the grapevine!!! No report or record of this was taken. I am not going to get into how my father and the regular teacher had to handle the situation because it would take too much time to go into that. So I still stand my opinion of this matter- the driver should have called for assistance and if they didn’t do anything then I would have called the police if I were the driver, I would not want to put my hands on this kid not only for the moral and obvious reasons, but the liabilty that may follow. Say all of the negative things that you want,I reallly do not care because until you are in the situation you will never know. Some of you may be the type of parents that are the first to say “don’t touch my baby, I don’t want any teacher’s or anyone touching my kid” and will be the first ones ready to jump on someone, call the news ,and a lawyer if they do. To thepromised1, I am glad that your child was able to overcome the obtacles that he faced and you are truly blessed. I will continue to pray for the families of the children who can’t.

P.S. There is a big difference in disipline and choking!!!

This is so sad. After watching the video and reading some ignorant responses…i am saddened. My nephew is six years old tomorrow. He has been diagnosed with autism. He cannot talk and can only express himself through noises and action. Some people dont understand the levels of autism and the way they may effect an individual. It frustrates me when people look at me like I’m crazy and mumble under their breath how theyw ould beat his ass if it were their child. When he has an outburst in public people just dont understand what he goes through and how he feels emotionally. People dont understand the frustrations and autistic child goes through. My nephew looks like a normal child, but he has this disability that people are not educated about it, and they make judgements. It is so sad. It worries me after watching this video that maybe something like this has happened…or can happen to my nephew, and he will never be able to let an adult know. If this were a situation my nephew were in…I dont know how I would react, but I do know I would be mad as hell. So to those of you that think it was ok for that woman to put her hands on a child that she did not bring into this world…that she did not spend nine months carrying…you all are out of your mind. regardless if he were disabled or not…she has no right to put her hands on this child.

choking….the kid was not gagging she wanted to scare him.I’m sure she knew that kid could follow instruction….Yall keep saying she should call dispatch…Who in the heel would have stayed on that bus with the challenged that long?..he started with a can..what would he have done next???…she was going to sit on the bus giving coordinates and explaining the situation while this challenged kid is scheming his next attack???

F- it I’m gonna one and say it …The kid was wrong he kne what he was doing …HE DESERVED TO GET CHOKED….whew…I said it, bite me..

No, Lex, we aren’t out of our minds.

Parents need to learn how to deal with their own kids and how they behave in schools. I understand you wanting everyone to treat your child the say you treat them, but truth be told…that is not going to happen.

I see all too often lazy parents allowing doctors to diagnose and mess up children. I’m not saying autism and other ailments don’t exist, but everyone isn’t suffering from developmental, social, or mental disabilities… Some of these kids although challenged, are suffering from a lack of parenting.

They said this child suffered from some mental impairment and that he is bi-polar… Yet the parents continue to send him and force him to be sent to a school for children who don’t suffer with these same issues. If you hadn’t noticed, kids are killing people these days. I never said she was right for putting her hands on him, but she didn’t hurt him nor did she actually choke him.

There are always two sides to everything. People expect too much out of teachers and other people, and too little out of these kids.

Just stop making excuses, you actually handicap these children when you expect little out of them.

Judith,

This “child” is in middle school. So at the very least he is 11 years old. “Children will be children” is a very interesting statement. Children will do what you allow them to do. So if your children or the ones around you are hitting, fighting, cursing and screaming, they are a direct reflection of the ignorant piss poor parents and adults around them.

folks with crazy a$$ kids need to take thier own kids too school instead of dumping they crazy a$$ on the bus. Let them worry the $hit out of them on the trip to/from school. Old girl should have taken her pre-natal vitamins..LOL

Cutya- A woman can be healthy, take vitamins , eat right, exercise and and still give birth to a challenged child. Watch what you say- Karma’s a M.F.(“folks with crazy A$$” kids)

I agree that the driver was wrong for putting her hands on the student. If a monitor was not available why didn’t the school call the parents to have them provide an alternate way for him to get home. If the parents know that he’s violent and aggressive, why aren’t they dropping him off and picking him up from school? What would’ve happened if he had been throwing things or if he had been violent with other students on the bus? It makes me wonder if he’s only acting like this on the bus or if he’s also behaving this way at school. Who’s with him then?

I hear people saying why send him to that particular school if he can’t behave. Well I had to fight for four years to get my son into a school that can cater to his behaviors. I live in Massachusetts and the school department faught me for four to keep him in that low class school that couldn’t handle him because they didn’t want to pay $80,000 thousand a year for him to go to a better school. I had to contact an advocate who contacted a lawyer so that we can fight the school department. Now a days you can’t just send your kids where you think they should be unless you can come out your pocket 80-100 thousand per year. Now unless your making millions that kind of money is nearly impossible.

I hear people faulting the parents. I’ve aways disciplined my son teaching him right from wrong and making sure that he behaves himself out in public. But kids with behavior issues don’t comprehend as well as the children that don’t have these issues. If my son get angry about something in the morning he will still be yelling about it when it’s time to go to bed. It can be a week later and he will still be upset about that situation where as a normal child would have forgotten about it. And over and over I try to verbally resolve the issue. Now if I decided to beat him because I fell like o.k. now it;s getting on my nerves he will try to inflict the same beating on his little sister. Hitting doesn’t make it better it only makes it worse. Now my mom beat me as a child but I WAS NORMAL. Children with behavior issues don’t get it and it only makes the situation worse if you hit them.

If you hit them it will only make them hit in school, people out in public, and also in the home.

If that was my 11 year old on that bus he wouldn’t faught that bus driver back. He wouldn’t beat down every child on that bus and all those windows on that bus would have been busted. Because she put her hands on him and didn’t handle the situation differently it would have made a bad situation worse.

If she would have just not move the bus until a monitor was present that situation would not have ever happened. A bus is never to tranport my son to or from school unless a monitor is present it’s in his IEP. Now if they transport and a situation like this happens I can and most definitly will sue. That bus driver and her company knew the law behind this so now they have to be sued.

So Tammy, let me ask you this… because your child (or any child) has violent tendencies, I should be ok with the child going to school with children who don’t?

I am all for equal treatment and I actually advocate for it, however when there is a violent propensity, that child should not be in school with what you call “normal” children.

As you clearly saw from the tape, he got violent BEFORE the bus driver corrected him, not afterwards.

And if I have a child on the bus, I expect that he or she will go too and from school safely. True enough. But I expect him or her to be safe from all harm, including harm from other students.

those folks shudda known black women don’t play

SMDH

The school that I put in my post that couldn’t handle him was a school that had kids with special problems and “normal children”. Now the bus that he rode to and from school only had special needs children on it. This is the same school that I said I had to fight the school department to get my son removed. These school departments don’t want to pay large amounts of money to send your child to a private school that have only special need children because they don’t want to pay large amounts of money. Now I don’t have 80,000 dollars a year to send my son to private school I only make 70,000 a year and I have the typical bills to pay.

Like I said it took four years of fighting the school and the school department to get my son into a private school. They waited until teachers and kids got hurt by my son to finally say oh now we can’t handle him send him some where else when I told them years ago that he needed to be in a different school. Some states will send your child to any school that they feel is best for your child no matter how much it cost but in Mass they will not do it until a parent fights the system. He has finally gotten into a private school but it took a some fighting and many years for him to get there.

MY SON BEING IN A SCHOOL WITH NORMAL CHILDREN WAS NOT MY DECISION IT WAS THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENTS. JUST LIKE THIS BUS SITUATION POSTED ABOVE THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT FAILED MY CHILD.

Kids need their ass kicked…mentally stable or unstable. These kids today get away with murder. I rarely remember mentally challenged children acting up as bad as this kid did because parents weren’t such pussies as they are now. I don’t see anything devastatingly wrong and this happy earlier this year

@ judipoti

Every child is different. You can’t compare one child behavior to another. Some children have mild behavioral issues and some have more savere bahavior issues. There are children in my sons class that have mild behaviors but my son happens to be in the more savere catagory. There are children that are not potty trained but my son happens to be potty trained. Some of the children graduate from his school and even go off to college because they are really bright and they do well, while others that graduate end up in residential institutions because they will never be able to function well in society.

WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT

Asada

then agian, Im not surprised, America is a poor country and cant provide for its children anyway. We will all be as crazy as that kid in afew years with this economy.

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that kid could’ve killed himself and the driver if that can had hit her and made her lose control of the bus – i wonder how many times has he clocked his mother

he never should’ve been on a public school bus.

the comment about training drivers to deal with mentally disturbed children is ridiculous – these drivers barely make 6.00 per hour

Some people are complaining that he has a monitor? His mother requested one and BY LAW (according to IDEA) the school system has to provide him with one and any other type of assistance he needs-at no charge to her. IT IS XAVIER’S RIGHT! BUSSY (lol!) was clearly wrong and should have turned that bus around when he acted up or never have taken off in the first place without a monitor. That wold have left it up to his mother to rectify the situation (get her on) or the school. If I were the mother, I would sue BUSSY, the school system AND the bus company! Just sitting back saying, I DIDN’T KNOW!!! is useless!

If you are not mentally equipped to handle children then don’t apply for the position. Children will misbehave, there are other ways to handle the situation besides violence.

THAT bus driver needs her mf azz stumped….. Putting her mf hands on that baby like that… is she out of her mf mind? That was assault of a child.. She is very lucky she is still breathing because some people would have done a “silence of the lambs” on her azz right about now… We need to spend more money on our schools instead on 10 billion a month in Iraq.

To everybody that said she wasn’t wrong- would she be wrong if it was your child she was choking? I know damn well that empty can didn’t hurt that bad n e way.

I wish the bus driving wouldn’t have quit. Every one could have just broke even. Boy hit her, she agressively restrained him, mother had relaxed evening. If mother gets money out of this, it should be applied towards special restraints on bus just for little Joey, mother attend classes how to raise child and be consistant with him, bus driver paid for her pain and suffering from can that hit her in her neck. Wheverever little Joey hit her, he will know not to hit someone else in that same spot.

if my child was posing that type of threat on someone life u i would be happy she got him in line before he killed them both..

i’m sick of people acting like this kid is innocent and helpless…yes there are kids who are so gone they don’t know where they are so obviously discipline is not an option…THIS KID ISN’T ONE OF THEM…HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING..AND HE STOPPED WHEN HE SEEN BUSSY MEANT BUSSINESS…

She was wrong for choking him. He wasn’t innocent either, but like someone said earlier, if the monitor wasn’t there then she should’ve request someone to fill in for the monitor so she could operate the bus. The worst part is that I feel sorry for the bus driver because I know she would’ve been told to just drive the bus or she will lose her job.

Response to Tammy

I hear people faulting the parents. I’ve aways disciplined my son teaching him right from wrong and making sure that he behaves himself out in public. But kids with behavior issues don’t comprehend as well as the children that don’t have these issues. If my son get angry about something in the morning he will still be yelling about it when it’s time to go to bed. It can be a week later and he will still be upset about that situation where as a normal child would have forgotten about it. And over and over I try to verbally resolve the issue. Now if I decided to beat him because I fell like o.k. now it;s getting on my nerves he will try to inflict the same beating on his little sister. Hitting doesn’t make it better it only makes it worse. Now my mom beat me as a child but I WAS NORMAL. Children with behavior issues don’t get it and it only makes the situation worse if you hit them.

If you hit them it will only make them hit in school, people out in public, and also in the home. ______________________________________________

If your son responds to discipline like ths kid (he is capable of understanding) and you physically discipline him and he straightens up but then go in the room and hit your daughter u need to beat his a@@ again that means he know what he is doing he just taking t out on your daughter..this is normal ..a normal kid would do this too if u let them get away with it…There is no excuse..just like in a earlier post if your child as the understanding of a 2 or 3 year old thet know right from wrong..and when my kids were that age they know the behavior on that bus is not acceptable..THERE IS NO EXCUSE…you parets handicapp these kids and then send them in the public for them to handle your shortcomings

The bus driver had no business, whatsoever, putting her hands on that child. She’s just a bus driver, she has been given consent to drive kids from point a to point b and nothing else. She wasn’t given the clearance to deliver ‘behavioral supports’. Although, we don’t know what the true extent of the child’s disability, no matter how bad the behavior got, no matter how stressed out the bus driver came to be, she shouldn’t have physically scared the kid. How can a grown woman let a child got under her skin like that? Of course, he’s going to settle down after being chocked (how much pressure she put on this kid’s neck is debatable) he’s scared…he doesn’t want to die. If she put alot of pressure and held him down long enough, his body will not struggle anymore and will get quiet because he may be passing out. What if she killed the kid?

One, she shouldn’t have driven the bus without a monitor present. Two, the school shouldn’t have let the school bus leave the grounds without the monitor. What if the kid threw something that what have distracted the bus driver to the point it caused an accident? It would obviously be the school’s fault. Three, she should have pulled off to the side, or into lot, school, store, gas station, or what have you, and radio for help. If she couldn’t use the thing on the bus, she should of used her cellphone. f

The parents could be partially to blame though. If his behavior isn’t being checked by anyone at home, than it’s only natural for the kid to act up in any ol’ place. The child has bi-polar, thus he is highly unpredictable.

People act like corporal punishment is the only thing that will keep a kid in line. There are other alternatives, beating them is not always the answer.

She’s a busdriver, not a special ed teacher or psychiatrist. Yet according to this video, there were MANY times she had to drive kids like this without the monitor. Maybe her reaction wasn’t perfect, but the kid did quiet down, and frankly I think his condition wouldn’t have gotten so bad if his own mother was tougher. He will never fit into society if people keep indulging his neuroses.

She was wrong but………….if they hada been me on one of them “special” days I would have choked the shyt of that child too..special or no special! Mama need to get tougher on that ass and maybe then he will learn how to get that “special” issue in order!

I have to say that some of you are very intellegent and I’m sure you’re great parents. Others are simply evil and/or sick! Dont even bother responding…I’m not coming back to this thread!!!

She should have no way put her hands on that child. I do know first hand that kids that are MRDD are very hard to handle if you dont know how. There should have been some one on the bus with her. Plus that child should have been straped into his seat so that he could not get up.

F this kid. im sick of all those bad a** kids. and dont pull that “hes handicapped” bs. now that doesnt mean you physically touch him, that is for his parents, but obviously they let this kid get away with whatever. this kid totally deserved a whooping, but that doesnt mean it is to be done. good idea, bad move ms. busdriver

sorry, but I dont feel bad for him. He shouldnt have been acting bad. Handicapped people say they want to be treating like everyone else…… well there you go.

Again I feel she didn’t choke the child….please look at the definitiion of choke..I’m sure his breathing wasn’t constricted, and he was not gagging…however she did grab him by the neck…And Hunhn!!!..If anyone yoked me up like that as a kid (I’m saying kid because i’m assuming he is above the age of 12)… My mom and dad would be glad she put me in my place…Again this mental kid knew what he was doing that’s why she did what she did..that wasn’t an empty can by the way…I guess kids can go around hitting adults and the adult should just ask them nicely to stop until the child like they want to stop…Huhn!!! go buy a clue..I bet your kids are bad as hell and noone but you can deal with them..YOu the type to make your kids retarded

When I say right amount of pressure I mean enough not to hurt him but enough to let him know he better chill the F@ck out..and he did..it worked…the right amount of pressure…did anyone else notice when she was talking to him he SAID…YES, YES MA’AM…He not so MENTALLY RETARDED…he has ample understanding…

I Would’ve choked the little booger too! He stop throwing them cans too, didn’t he! Maybe they should make choking legal in schools ! LOL!!! I got choked a couple times and I am doing just fine!

The mom is clearly faking she know she is guilty of the same behavior. She need to thank ole gurl…lol

cant be getting physical with other ppls children. SPECIAL OR NOT! i think a firm finger in the face would have intimdated him enuf to settle him down.

You REALLY have to be delicate in situations w/ other ppls kids. How could they Not fire her. Seriously. Im not saying right or wrong im sayin the school board had to take a stand we just cant have ppl goin all vigilante justice on your kids.

that being said, Shouldnt have let that lil boy on that bus w/o supervision. if he rides w/ someone EVERY day, he obviously needs it.

what is wrong with some of you ignorant people? “the parent should be doing her job”, “the bus driver had every right to choke him out”, “maybe he’ll learn”? where do you people live where its ok for someone else to put their hands on someone elses child regardless if he is “normal” or not? that bus driver was dead wrong for that and had it had been my child, being fired from her job would have been the least of her worries. i mean damn think for a minute if that were your child and he/she was not mentally stable or maybe they are and some bus driver yokes them up against a window how would you feel? thats what wrong with some of you backwards ass people. some of you dont look at the big picture: its not right to put your hands on another persons child especially if they are mentally challenged. i hope some of you who think she was right never reproduce.

Baby cakes don’t you reproduce….Like I said before it takes a village to raise a child..and for now on I’m sure thet challenged kid will think twice before acting a a$$…**** END OF THREAD****

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It is pretty much agreed this little boy deserved that yoke and will accept it as a lesson learned <<<<>>>>>>>>>

KUDOS BUSSY ……

I dont think she was wrong either. At least she didnt beat him up.

you people are ignorant and racist. if it was a white woman chokeing a black kid you people would be aout on the streets demanding her head on a stick. is it fair to say the black kid in sf got deserved because he knew he shouldnt be fighting on the rapid transit? just goes to show you who the most racist people in this country is. and no its not the whites!!!

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