For Discussion: Obama Racial Slur at a University
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It looks like heads might roll at NCSU:
The North Carolina NAACP wants North Carolina State University to expel four students accused of painting racist messages about President-elect Obama on campus.
School Chancellor James Oblinger held a closed-door meeting Wednesday with NAACP President Rev. William Barber to discuss the graffiti in the campus free expression tunnel.
Barber wants an official response within 48 hours. Oblinger says both sides have agreed to move forward.
Four students admitted spray-painting the messages, including one that used a racial slur and suggested shooting Obama in the head.
Officials have said the unidentified students won’t face criminal charges because the writing wasn’t a hate crime since it was written on a wall where free speech is encouraged.
Colleges and Universities have a code of conduct aimed at fostering an environment where young people are able to learn the boundaries between right and wrong on moral and ethical levels.
Where does this incident lie, either morally or ethically?
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What? Free speech my behind.
Four students admitted spray-painting the messages, including one that used a racial slur and SUGGESTED SHOOTING OBAMA IN THE HEAD (emphasis mine).
Officials have said the unidentified students WON’T FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES because the writing wasn’t a hate crime since it was written on a wall where free speech is encouraged.
If someone makes a threat against the POTUS, it appears to be a threat, thus illegal. This is only the beginning. When Obama was voted in, everyone thought the era of racism died. Huh!
sad
wow i think they should be charged because thats a threat to the pres
I agree Chair Force. Plus they admitted it!
It should be considered a threat to the President. These racist people are really irritating…that whole race thing is so childish and ignorant, get over it already and stop judging people by the color of their skin…IDIOTS, they need to be punished!!!
Well, it’s just like the kids who were caught the other week, plotting to kill Obama and that we “shouln’t take them seriously because, after all, they’re just kids, they really didn’t mean it.”
Now, we shouldn’t take these kids in college seriously because, “after all, it was written on a wall that encourages ‘free speech’ for the students”.
So, what they’re saying is: Igonor the FACT that people are really plotting and want to *****isinate this man, preferrably BEFORE he is even inaugurated, and it will all just go away.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?! The sad thing is – yes, they are serious.
I’m not buying it because then, GOD FORBID, something were to happen the first thing they’ll say in the papers is “oh, this was an isolated incident.”
BULL ***** ON THAT! They ALL need to be thrown in jailt for even THINKING about taking President-elect Barack Obama out.
THROW THEM ALL IN JAIL.
expelling them will only make them hate minorities more. i say they should make them do extra studies in african american studies. take courses in the struggles of minorities and maybe that will teach them some tolerance and some empathy.
knowledge > retaliation
God watch over prez Obama and his family.
I think if the shoe had been on the other foot, say a black person spray painted a mural about Bush and shooting him in the head there would be way more severe consequences. That “freedom of speech” garbage would be thrown right out the window. He is the PRESIDENT, screw freedom of speech. People better begin to respect that or there is going to be a huge problem here in this country.
don’t they have rules at that school for hate speech and vandalism? why is this even up for debate?
Even though I was against Barack and don’t agree with his policies, I would never ever want any harm to come upon him or his families. It’s funny in a way because why are we shocked that this would actually happen. We knew there was going to be some backlash against him, this is a very racist nation. Not saying that it’s right but come on…let’s use our heads..this was going to happen.
@ Nia
You are absolutely correct. It was different when he was Campaigning to become present and he had to endure that nonsense. Now that he’s been Elected, they need to RESPECT that and it needs to be nipped in the butt, or yeah, like Nia stated, we’re going to have hell on our hands.
People are already catching beat-downs in and around the City here and there.
My mother lives in Staten Island and because we don’t have a car any more, I’m reluctant to travel out there alone, just my grandson and I.
I’m just praying that we don’t revert BACK to the days of the 70’s because… I WON’T HESITATE TO BUST A CAP IN SOMEBODY’S *****…
I’m just sayin’… they need to rectify this issue – and soon!
That’s the bull***** white people say, when thet want to justify madness like this! How is that ok in a time when people have already been arrested for plotting *****asinations!! Its the south and it shows America is still full of close minded hateful bigots!!
Damn!!!!!
All the top Managers here are NC State Alums and we get carte blache for every event at their home stadium.
Oh, well, I guess I won’t be seeing the Wolfpack at home.
This is some BULLS***!! How can they suspend them but not charge them. They are trying to “pacify” and justify at the same time. You can’t do both. I feel that this is an injustice being down and it shouldn’t be allowed.
@ Clutch
Denial will get your ***** killed… There are going to be all kinds of people coming out of the wood-work looking for that perfect opportunity and if you can’t get to the president directly, what better way than to just take your actions out on the nearest minority you can get to.
That’s why we’re having all these beat-downs. They see a black person and the next thing you know, you’re in a fight for your life.
It’s sad. We really have to watch our backs – not just Obama – but us, too.
This is only the beginning brown people..The important thing here is that we as a race stick together support each other and ride this thing on out.This country hates change they want this world to stay a white mans world but as we have proven recently its no longer that way.Just cause Obama is in office doesnt mean the struggles over it just mean we are tipping scales!!! Love all of you guys brown,white ,asian.pink purple,and especially you oil slick black brotha’s!!!!!!!!
Here we go with the total “BULL*****” making excuse for someone. Yes its understood the freedom of speech but of course they are going to use tha as an excuse.. ok so someone can go and say something about the student as far as beating the ***** out of them for being a rude as ***** as they were. Of course the mojority of white folks is upset beacuse of our “BLACK president. So on that note let them say all what needs to be said its not going ot change Obama from being president. Thats just shows how ignorant that person is and they went to college and didnt learn *****.. Such ignorant ***** *****s..
Making plot against the president is treason period, they should be expelled and prosecuted. That is the law of the land. If they got their ***** whooped by some Obama supporters or rather some patriotic enthusiast I’m sure they would be prosecuted. Treason and a Hate Crime. Just follow the damn law.
@ Athea
LMAO @ “oil slick” black brother’s….
Yes, Pedro, we mean you. We love you too, and we ALL have stick together because it’s about to be on for real, I hate to say it, but it is what it is.
>>>> HOW IN THE WORLD ‘ WRITING A THREAT TO SHOOT A PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE U.S. NOT A CRIMINAL INCIDENT THAT CHARGES SHOULD NOT BE FILED???? IF ANYONE THREATENS A PRESIDENT’S LIFE AUTOMATICALLY THE SECRET SERVICE ‘SHOULD BE AT THEIR DOOR!!!! A ‘BLACK MAN WON THE OFFICE AND SOME PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP MAKING THREATS AGAINST HIS LIFE BECAUSE THEY FEEL ALL PEOPLE OF COLOR DONT DESERVE THE RIGHT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN BOUGHT UP WITH THE [IGNORANT MENTALITY THAT WHITE IS RIGHT] WELL YOUR TIME IS UP… IT’S A NEW DAY AND OBAMA WINNING ONLY OPENED UP THE DOOR THAT ANYONE OF COLOR WILL BE ABLE TO RUN FOR THE HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND IF THEY ARE QUALIFIED…. OBAMA WAS QUALIFIED… AND I HOPE THE NAACP SEES THIS THROUGH TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE ‘ L A W!!!!!!!!!!
@ 1TruDiva
Where you been girl? I’m getting ready to go home… will log-in and blog on this some more then.
I’ll holla,
Peace
Miss Blaze I agree with you 100 percent
How are you, Blaq?
While I was away on business, I was told that the Charlotte news reported a couple with an Obama replica hanging on the porch with a noose around his neck. This was apart of their Halloween decor. I couldn’t find it on the net, so I *****ume it’s true.
Racism hasn’t expired and clearly it is still a factor in America, but this is only a minute portion of pessimistic behavior.
All American citizens will not change their mindset just because our POTUS is a black man.
@ Film
true, true. As you see no one is surprised. The hate crimes in my neighborhood began on election night. Obama may be the most successful president of all time, because black and white are looking for him to fail. The hate crimes will continue especially the more we achieve and the closer we become. This is just a sign we are doing good. Notice how the KKK was basically not heard from while the government filling our communities with drugs, but Obama has encouraged black people from all walks of life to stand together and have pride in themselves and their people. This story is almost like an A on our report card.
FREE SPEECH MY AZZ!! WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT SH_T IS SERIOUS!! LET SOME BLACK MAN START WRITING ON THE WALL ABOUT SHOOTING BUSH AND SEE HOW LONG HIS BUTT BE WALKING THE STREETS!!!
You shouldn’t be able to openly threaten to **********inate the President or the President-Elect.
Blaq
MLK did predict in his ‘I’ve Been to The Mountain Top’ speech that one day we would see the promise land. It just amazes me how we as a people sometimes take things for granite, but that’s a whole different topic.
Good oberservation about the KKK. The narcotic conspiracies are just genocide under a different name backed by the government (Ronald Reagan). I wonder what Dr. King/Malcolm X would say about all the government conspiracies if they were still alive.
this is so sad for a bunch college kids to do that. i agree what sum1 else said…. they only pacified the situation. let it be a black kid spreading hateful words. not only we would’ve been in jail, they would have thrown the book, chair, shoes, iron and pots at us for making a comment at bush. we deserve a chance at house just like everyone else. ppl need to seriously wake up and realize that black people are not going anywhere. so they can suck a dead man’s dicc and a lemon.
NOLYINGHERE
FREE SPEECH MY AZZ!! WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT SHOOTING THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES THAT SH_T IS SERIOUS!! LET SOME BLACK MAN START WRITING ON THE WALL ABOUT SHOOTING BUSH AND SEE HOW LONG HIS BUTT BE WALKING THE STREETS!!!
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You took the words right out of my mouth. This is BS. Since when is it OK to threaten to shoot the president? I’m tired of these white folks trivalizing the MANY threats made against President Obama. They need to be expelled and thrown in jail, and the NAACP shouldn’t accept anything less.
Have none of you been in a library restroom at a university? The stall walls are FILLED with dissertations by racists about why 1 race is worse than another. The only thing different is that it was aimed at Obama, so there will probably be some jail time if it’s considered a threat.
Barack Obama is the elected President of the United States, the question of whether this was morally or ethically wrong really does not matter at this point. President elect Barack Obama has Secret Service security every threat is taken seriously, it appears these students have made this biggest mistake of their lives, no threat against any President should be taken lightly.
These students should be arrested and jailed, immediately. We may not want to beleive this but racism is a form of mental health disease, it is the most rediculous type of hatred to not like someone because of the color of their skin.
@ Film
Malcolm would say “I told you!!” MLK “Yeah, you did”
I’m glad the NAACP stays on top of it.
Free speech does not include threats or speech communicate to incite or carry out bodily harm!!!!!!
Those guys should be expelled. What if someone wrote in the tunnel how they wanted to raped or kill another student. I’m sure the student on the receiving end would have cause to worry and not think such communication was a mere trifle of an expression.
Wow, I think there should be charges filed against these people. Free expression or not… that was a threat. EXPELL, BLACK BOOK, CASTRATE, DECAPITATE…. whatever it takes to let people know that ish is NOT acceptable.
and to think i was planning to apply there. first duke, now state. stop the madness
Give me a break. I’m getting tired of this anything goes position in the name of free speech. Do we have to resort to communism to nip this ***** in the bud?! Ridiculous!
“Officials don’t consider it a hate crime because it was written on a wall encouraging free speech?”SMDH.
Yo, if that’s not suggesting the Chancellor is a grand wizard, I don’t know what will.
Blaq
LOLOL.You’re right. I see you have a sense of humor.
“Free speech?” There is no such thing when it comes to the health and safety of the commander-in-chief REGARDLESS of his race. It is illegal to make overt or veiled threats against the president. Try that ***** about President Bush. The government will be all over your *****. I can already see that this double-standard ***** is going to ***** me off. It should not be up to the school. The dumb*****es who did this should be hauled off and interogated by the gov’t like they would any other nutjob. This should also go into their FBI files.
It’s a damn shame that white americans STILL have a fear of a Black man! He’s not Flavor Flav, he’s Obama; a man that has a plan of action. And all they see is color.
I saw a few days ago about how actions like these and FaceBook sites that are anti-Obama are popping up and that these are “minor incidents and are not harmful”. Yeah, that’s what they said about Hitler’s speeches and propoganda.
America is showing its true colors and the world is watching. The Obama “group hug” is loosening. Time to get to work, people!
cowards
White people are straight up evil
Threats against the President-elect should be taken seriously. They should be expelled from school as the school tries to foster a certain code of conduct. If they can charge the person who wrote the threat, they should.
@ MissBlaze43–
I’m sorry I missed you!! You know I be BOSSIP drive byin’ now!!!
Lol!!!!
Gotta an extra long weekend but I’ll pop in to look for you!!
Glad you’re back!!!!!
This is why I no longer give financially to the NAACP. How the f*ck do you move on from some bullsh*t like this? You move on AFTER the *****s have been convicted.
The ONLY good that can come in the rise of racial slurs and hate crime is that white people (and coons) can finally see for themselves that yes, racism does still exist.
They need to be expelled because that insights riots. Mu*****as got the right to not like black people and freedom of speech but we talking about a prestigous college campus they should catch a mu*****in case or a mu*****in ***** whoopin
the incident goes against both morals and ethics. even if they dont arrest the students, they should still be watched closely cuz even if they dont actually hurt obama, they might hurt one of his supporters. watch em!!!!!!!!!!!
eff them crackas – they hatin’ the brotha when they should be hatin’ the white boy that has effed up the country – George WhiteBoy Bush – eff them crackas
Oh, but it gets better. For some reason, those that are making threats against President Obama are given slaps on their wrists. The Secret Service, CIA, and FBI needs to get on their damn job:
OBAMA HAS MORE THREATS THAN OTHER PRESIDENTS-ELECT
By EILEEN SULLIVAN, *****ociated Press Writer Eileen Sullivan
WASHINGTON – Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president’s security is so sensitive.
Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama’s name and the offer of a “free public hanging.” In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.
And in a Maine convenience store, an *****ociated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an **********in. The sign solicited $1 entries into “The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool,” saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. “Let’s hope we have a winner,” said the sign, since taken down.
In the security world, anything “new” can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.
Obama, of course, will be the country’s first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. “Anytime you’re going to have something that’s new, you’re going to have increased chatter,” he said.
The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to *****ume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.
The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are “stated threats” and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of “unusual interest” — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.
Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National *****ociation for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.
A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — “a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it.”
There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:
• In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an **********ination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.
• Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and **********inate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.
In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.
In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.
Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.
One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, “I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how ‘messiahs’ come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed.”
It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.
“The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them,” Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.
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*****ociated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington and Jerry Harkavy in Standish, Maine, contributed to this report.
EXPEL THEM…and then make them attend a HBCU…..
They’ll be straight after that…
ummm, stormfront.org just got 2,000 more members I’m sure after they posted their web address in a a national piece. SMH. Too bad Barack can’t bring the FOI with him. If you’ve ever been to see Farrakhan (and I have) you know ain’t *****ody getting to that dude….
This falls in line with “zero tolerance” “one and done.” Free speech is one thing, “terroristic” threats is another. They need to be made examples of, if this George Bush or even John McCain they’d be all over it. Disgusting!
If that happened under DUB-ya’s watch they would still be unamed but they would be in jail somewhere, maybe not GITMO but somewhere. Free speech my foot.
F dat!!! Freedom of speech my azz! I don’t give a dayum what the school says… if its a threat against a President, Presidential candidate, or President-elect, it should be considered a hate crime… PERIOD!!! What if they expressed shooting the President of the school in the head?? What would happen then? Freedom of speech, and physical threats are two entirely different issues! Throw the book at their azzes, but not before kicking them out of school!! This ish is ridiculous, and it has to stop!!!
WORD TO ALL RACISTS *****S OUT THERE, YOUR 44th PRESIDENT IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, now GET OVER IT OR MOVE SOMEWHERE WHERE YOUR RACISTS VIEWS ARE APPRECIATED, because they certainly aren’t welcomed here!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!
Free speech is when you are given the chance to voice your opinions regarding certain topics without fear of retaliation.
It cease being free speech when a person threathens someone ESPECIALLY our president-elect, who is a government official.
That is a threath pure and simple and the party or patries involved should be prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.
I am not sure, but I think this could border on terrorism. I can’t understand why the police or the Secret Service for that matter would let something like this slide with a slap on the wrist.
And, since when is writing racial slurs on a wall out in the open for all to see NOT considered a hate crime.
When you read about people putting racial drawings on other people’s homes it’s called a hate crime.
So how in the hell can they say writing racial slurs about our president-elect is NOT considered a hate crime because they encourage free speech. No, what they encourage and accept is racism.
And, these are freaking college students with an administration who are just as racist as the students because they let them get away with this type of foolish, ignorant, disrespectful behavior.
In that case lets also get the CIA to monitor all the little wags that dressed up as Obama with a shot to his head by a Palin rifle this Halloween, seen on My*****es. Let’s go after each and every ***** that has threatened the gov, the president so far too. These last few years, lots of people (college kids) said stupid things and threatened Bush. Remember 23% approval rating. Nothing happened to those people. Remember Clinton’s BJ, lots of angries there too. The free speech wall was free speech before this happened, they’re not using it as a “cover up” after the fact. It’s free speech. The CIA has not uncovered a plot tieing these people in–a credible actionable threat. The NAACP has nothing to talk about. Just some indecent young minds that are free to express themselves. It’s like trying to punish the nonpunishable. You punish such behavior you threshold for threats is so low–we might as well lock everybody up who says or does anything ignorant and indecent.
He’s a president. So what. He doesn’t get respect because he’s black, like any president he’ll have to earn their respects. The same way any white wig had to earn the black communities respect. Don’t pretend any of ‘em had it. The first time you can honestly say you were proud of this country was now, before that there was room to *****.
Well, Well Obama being the President is starting to show America how some whitey’s truly are and bringing their evil to light they are being ignorant and we see they are the true NIGG*rs…….. Well I know what college my family won’t attend………
you could never say anything negative towards a white person no matter what their status maybe, what gets me is these simple minded people really think that by har*****ing elect president obama they are going to shake him and scare him out of office before he even gets there, president obama is strong and has the grace of god on his side sooner or later these *****holes have to get tired of the ridicule and idiocracy that they shamelessly continue to display
Racism is NOT Dead! Racism will exists as long as Humanity is in existence
PLEASE NOTE! North Carolina State University is known as a REDNECK SCHOOL full of hillbilly white people and to add more sugar there are alot of WHITE Women on this campus that prefer to MESS around with BLACK MEN
NCSU is full of hicks and tricks
THOSE KIDS NEEDS TO BE CHARGED.ITS JUST LIKE MAKING A FAKE BOMB THREAT..
Bossip could you do all of us a favor and stick to your celeb reporting. You of all sites, has no room to post and continue to post matters concerning these ridiculous racial attacks…. We have experienced this all of our lives and what makes you think it will end now. STOP! I think you should stick to the ridiculous celebs and leave the race thing along….Yes we did! Obama 08.
IF anything happens to obama this mu*****in country gone fall apart. When Dr. king got killed we was upset and rioted but we calmed down if sometin happen to obama this mu*****a is gone erupt and its gone be on
From the *****ociated Press:
ASHINGTON — Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president’s security is so sensitive.
Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama’s name and the offer of a “free public hanging.” In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.
And in a Maine convenience store, an *****ociated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an **********in. The sign solicited $1 entries into “The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool,” saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. “Let’s hope we have a winner,” said the sign, since taken down.
In the security world, anything “new” can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.
Obama, of course, will be the country’s first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. “Anytime you’re going to have something that’s new, you’re going to have increased chatter,” he said.
The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to *****ume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.
The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are “stated threats” and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of “unusual interest” _ such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.
Racially tinged graffiti _ not necessarily directed at Obama _ also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National *****ociation for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.
Here’s a description of more incidents:
There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:
_ In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an **********ination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.
_ Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and **********inate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.
In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.
In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head _ discovered on a table in a police station.
Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.
One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, “I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how ‘messiahs’ come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed.”
I find these incidents troubling on a number of levels. I absolutely believe it is a serious criminal matter for anyone to threaten the safety of our president-elect or members of his family. The well-being of our incoming president is paramount to the health of the nation. These are obviously mentally troubled individuals, and this type of behavior should not be ignored nor allowed.
We are already in an extremely fragile time, and there is still a real threat of possible aggression from overseas. These internal disruptions and threats of violence serve only to further erode our stability. Whether or not people agree with Obama’s policies or like or dislike him as a person, words and actions that could imperil his safety should not be tolerated under any cir*****stances. That is criminal behavior, pure and simple, and it should be suppressed immediately.
The irony is that I’m sure many of these disturbed individuals consider themselves patriotic — Threatening the safety of a new president is anything but an act of love for your country. Threatening to harm or kill anyone is a sign of emotional instability and depravity.
@ Nope. That sh*t you said was lame as hell. Why the hell are you on this site with that trash. Take that garbage to a KKK meeting. The point is that they threatended a man. Regardless of a person’s gender, race, social status, or anything else for that matter, noone else should be able to make threats against them. This is childish and unacceptable.
Free speech does NOT include hate speech or inciting violence and/or a riot. That’s why yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theater is NOT by the 1st Amendment. And threatening the president(elect)is illegal. So their punk *****es should be in jail and investigated by the FBI. Then they will understand the difference between “free speech” and “*****hole-ism”.
That should have read “yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater is NOT PROTECTED by the 1st Amendment”
FYI, 60 Minutes will air an interview with the Obamas tomorrow night at 7 p.m. ET:
(CBS) President-elect Barack Obama and First Lady-elect Michelle Obama describe the moment on election night when the reality of his victory hit home in their first post-election interview.
The interview was conducted Friday in Chicago by 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft and it will be broadcast on Sunday, Nov. 16, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
Asked when it sunk in that her husband had won, Michelle Obama told Kroft, “I remember, we were watching the returns and, on one of the stations, Barack’s picture came up and it said, ‘President-Elect Barack Obama.’ And I looked at him and said, ‘You are the 44th president of the United States of America. Wow. What a country we live in.’”
“How about that?” President-elect Obama added. “Yeah. And then she said, ‘Are you going take the girls to school in the morning?’”
“I did not,” Michelle Obama replied, laughing. “I didn’t say that.”
@Marc B’s Honey
Aw man. You are telling me I gotta move sites, and here I thought I could just stay here. I mean I don’t need to go somewhere else to shovel quality hate. I can just shovel what your shoveling at me, right here. MAKE BE MOVE BIATCH. Oh, that’s right ya can’t.
People get threatened everyday. Gov. officals have and always will be threatened everyday. Wooop wooop. It wasn’t going to end because he got elected. Stop making such a big *****y about it. If a place is specifically designated for free speech where you are given the chance to voice your opinions regarding certain topics without fear of retaliation—the school can’t turn around and now punish and censor. Actually I’d rather KNOW that something like this was written than prevent people from expressing such ignorance. This way the an NAACP or the school can say “look the school needs to not punish here but consider some type of way to spearhead a tolerance week or education campus wide” “this here is proof our school has a pent up problem.” Punishing people for saying something that is probably on a lot of people minds there is not gonna make it go away.
FYI, threats to the safety of the president-elect are covered under Title 18 of the U.S. Code, I believe (but I’m not a lawyer, so I’m not sure of the strict interpretation of the text). This may also be found at findlaw(dot)com:
“Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or do*****ent containing any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”
FYI the ignoramuses on campus did not attempt to send a piece of that wall to the White House. You can’t prove, oh wait, you can, prove that they did not intend for this “threat” to be mailed to the WH. You can even say the threat is only as good as them taking advantage of this free speech wall. They aren’t going out of their way to show they have a real intention of hurting him. I’m not saying all these cases of hateful idiots shouldn’t be monitored, reported, looked into, slapped on wrist, but if these kids were black I would stand up for them ignorantly taking advantage of their free speech in the same way. I rather KNOW. Than prevent people from expressing something that could tell me there is a problem on campus before it’s too late. MHO.
Yes, the Secret Service has the responsibility of protecting the safety of the president-elect and other officials, so, yes, threatening speech and acts are, and should be, monitored.
Yes, our right to free speech as citizens should be protected — but threats of violence should never be tolerated, IMHO. In the case of N.C. State University, you have students expressing their fear that they will be attacked simply for wearing an Obama button. That type of atmosphere should not be allowed on any campus, and I agree that further action should be taken by school officals with the students, including expulsion.
Saying you disagree with an incoming president’s views is one thing — Suggestions of violence is another.
These racist ppl are quite miserable… I admit that when Obama was elected, I was very proud and still am… Everybody was preaching this message of change and hope…
honestly in the back of my mind I was saying “hope”? “change”? In AmeriKKKa… bwhahahahahahahhaaaaaaa
Trust the racists and the IGNORANT are STILL out there, DO NOT BE FOOLED!
as i white woman i voted for barack. i identify with him as a self-made and college educated individual. i identify with his family, his obvious love and adoration for his beautiful family reminds me of my own father. i believe this man can and will make a difference in my life, and the lives of so many throughout the world. this was my fourth presidential election, and the first time i was certain my vote was important, mattered, sent a message, and i couldn’t wait to cast it.
that being said, i know people who were scared to vote for him because of the very obvious WHAT HAPPENS IF BARACK IS *****ASINATED?
the idea terrifies me. for the first time our country faces credible threats against our leader. any threat against the president’s life MUST be viewed as credible. barack obama is the new leader of the free world. and as far as i’m concerned, free speech stops when it incites violence, when it threatens life, and when it used in a manner to demean and devalue a person.
what happened at ncsu is wrong and patently offensive to all of us, and should be tolerated by NO ONE.
peace.
Well i go 2 meredith right down the right….and this is some bull***** me being a black student does not appreciate what went on. they should be punished and any other white person who feel the same way at my school…there really getting on my nerves. It sucks it has come 2 this…whats the big deal…obama is our president…he deserved it…so deal with it!!!!
Plain & Simple!!
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This is not a problem of morals or ethics, it’s a problem of racism and ignorance. Doesn’t matter what your race is- the knowledge that this sh*t is f*cked up and wrong transcends race..
They should be expelled, but i dont think its a racist thing. Obama is not black, he is BI-RACIAL, he is just as white as he is black, he was raised by a white family. I could easily call him a white man as i could call him a black man. Why do we have to put a color on him at all? He looks at everybody as equal, he doesnt see color, why even bring race into it? IMO i think racism still exists because Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson dont know when to call it a day with their jibber jabber cry baby bull*****. Im sorry but i dont think they help the situation at all.
Education cannot cure racism. They are sadly mistaken if they think a few credit hours are going to teach these kids. There are different types of intelligence. Some of the most knowledgeable and academic individuals harbor a lot of prejudice. These kids obviously lack the type of intelligence that makes them good citizens or decent people.
those peepz do not even deserve to be suspended….expelled more like it and straight to jail after that with no procedures…shud not be let out till pres. obama is off duty
if i had the power…gosh, i wud sweep them out of this world first..wish i had hitler’s guts…daaaamn these people wudnt c 2morow’s sunrise
It’s not free speech if it’s a threat made against POTUS, as the other writer commented. Therefore, who ever wrote the threat should be prosecuted. Free speech does not include threats of death or calls to murder the President. Duh, NC, you’re a university and don’t know this or you’re just faking the education game, as if you didn’t know.
Despite this mess, I’m still a proud NCSU Graduate!!!
Is it me, or was the Columbine student “just a kid”? We see what people are able to do when there is ignorance and hate involved. Better yet, with all the nonsense that George Bush has created ( 2 Wars, bad economy) did anyone exercise their right to say kill him? My advice to Obama, get a Pope Mobile early!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are too many haters in this world and he needs to stay a step ahead of them.
Oh give me a break, you ppl only care because this incident involves Obama. If this had to do with Bush, Cheney, or anybody else for that matter you’d be cheering them on, it makes me sick to hear white ppl being labeled as racist when black ppl are just as racist as whites! Get back in the welfare line and collect your govt hand outs lazy *****es, and stop crying about every little thing that is said about Obama. You are where you are because of a WHITE MAN, thank Abe Lincoln! I say how i feel, its called freedom of speech DEAL WITH IT
@ Jersey girl ……Hey yall ……….Jersey is uneducated …there are more whites in the welfare line than blacks ….do your research..Here is my FREEDOM of Speech Jersey fish……Abe Lincoln was partially proper and don’t forget he loved the black ***** like most of the white men in America and the white chicks loovvee the black ***** and I wouldn’t thank Abe for *****…Us beautiful blacks didn’t ask to be her …It was the white man that kidnapped us and feed their big head white babies black *****y milk ….so ***** don’t bite the hand that fed you……DEAL WIT THAT
@jersey fish ….we fed you with are *****y milk and I’m sure u know we didn’t ask to be here ….so thank Obama for not makingsome white ppl slaves like he should…so shut up you white piece of bread lololol *****ing cave creature…I can deal with the fair whitey but fishes like you I would straight slap ……….come to Michigan tramp
OOOOObama haters,He is your leader …..DEAL WIT THAT (FREEDOM) in your face…..WE will stand for Obama ,we meaning blk ,spanish and some whites are ready…. It doesn’t matter if he is part white ***** remember …If he has 1% of blk blood that means he is a black person…We won’t fall back ..If he get’s hurt I am *****ing the first racsist whitey I see………….So plz keep the peace you can’t get over this time……
I though I would start to like white people now but forget it…..they are still the same. So much for taking the loss with pride. This is why I have no white friends , you never know…. This ‘com by ah’ ***** aight working, never will…. GO BO
Freedom of speech my @$$. The University has a bunch of idiots running the school. This is pathetic & something needs to be done about it. Obama is the NEW PRESIDENT ELECT. Get over it or get out of the Country. Period.
Obama has more security detail than Bush and that was before he was president elect. The issue of whether it is moral or ethical really falls on the University–we know where these students already stand. The school who promotes free speech cannot revoke what the wall was intended for in the first place. However, morally and ethically racial slurs and any expression of acts of violence should be prohibited by school officials. When these stories gain media attention I think that swift and harsh measures should be taken to discourage these types of issues from reoccuring. Taking emotion out of the situation–I think that stating a president should be shot and planning to do it are two totally different things. It is the platform that is used to promote such ignorant behavior. I would love an update as to the outcome. Go Obama!!!
ugh. LEGALLY FREE SPEECH AND HATE SPEECH ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS! ONE IS PROTECTED ONE IS NOT!!… if this so called wall is where “free” speech is encouraged why sanction them at all! cuz its HATE SPEECH!
we had a similar “rock” at our college where we could paint/write whatever we wanted. If we ever put up anything like that we would have been charged and sanctioned by the school!
but is ok cuz u know what? THEIR PRESIDENT IS BLACK TOO!!!
Well to point something out here, Free speech is all speech. Its what this country supports no matter what. Its an opinion of a couple of kids not of the school and they put it where free speech is encouraged. Its legal, its horrible, but its legal and they should be allowed to do it without repercussions.
Free speech hell! *****ody should be allowed to shout kill anyone! White racist people need to get over themselves! They are about to get a good long overdue ***** whooping, if they don’t shut up. Black people has got to be the most tolerant people in the world. Because even after all the bull***** done against that color of race, black people take these racist comments so light, like they don’t even care. That bull***** of, it’s not me, If it was, I’d kick thier *****. Well, guess what, it is you! Prejudice against African Americans won’t go away to the fullist unless, it is fought for. Get up and out people! This ***** is not cool, NOT AT ALL! How in the world you can’t even wear Obama T-*****s to work and in school. He is our President elect!THE PRESIDENT!!
@vipinnyc “kill him” is a suggestion, that is totally inhuman! It is a suggestion that will be put in the minds of those mentally retarded people “biggots” that are looking for that “white” world. Which is impossible! This is America! We didn’t want Bush dead for all the bull***** he did, we wanted him out the white house! We didn’t want palin killed for promoting racial division, her crazy ***** just did not need to be there. But Senator Obama deserves BETTER! HE HAS done nothing to this world. Only being judged by his skin color. THAT HAS GOT TO STOP! Racist comments HAS gone too far, AGAIN! So if this was your son or daughter, you are telling the world, this is acceptable? Even gay people are fighting for their equality!
THAT’S PRESIDENT ELECT, OBAMA! deserves BETTER. African American people, we are still in a fight, demand that respect. All minorities need to demand that respect. This is about all of us!
@jerseygirl, since we are labeling here, then all black people are really kings and queens here and white people are a bunch of murdering theives, that need to go back to Europe and give America back to the Indians. You are probably on welfare wishing minorities away, so you can get more benefits!