Wednesday, November 19th, 2008

T.I. To Take the Stand

Posted by Bossip Staff

According to Livesteez, T.I is set to testify in the shooting death of his close friend in Cinci:

One of two men implicated in the murder of T.I.’s childhood friend, Philant Johnson, went on trial yesterday (November 18) in Cincinnati facing multiple charges including murder and felonious assault. Authorities spent almost two years investigating the May 2006 chase and shoot out that left Johnson dead and three other individuals in the Grand Hustle camp wounded. It wasn’t until this past summer that police caught a break, which lead to the arrest of 40-year-old Padron Thomas and 36-year-old Hosea Thomas, who stands on trial alone in the crime. The elder Thomas brother, along with two others charged with federal gun crimes, contacted officials earlier this year with details of the incident, effectively pointing the finger at Hosea as the killer.

Padron Thomas alleges, he and his friends confronted T.I. and his crew over gaining entry to the VIP area at Club Ritz in the Roselawn area of Cincinnati. Following the ensuing fight, the Atlanta-based rapper and his entourage left the scene in two vans. They were chased by a green Jeep Cherokee, from which the shots were later fired. Padron Thomas has admitted to driving the vehicle and told authorities that his brother Hosea fired shots at the vans, one which was described as a “horror scene,” with blood and brain matter dripping from the ceiling. He also claims that at least one member of T.I.’s camp returned fire. While Hamilton County prosecutor Heather Gosselin indicated in her opening statement that the states case would “come down to witness testimony,” Hosea Thomas’ lawyer Charles Isaly pointed out that the character of those witnesses should be questioned. He insisted that all of the prosecution’s proposed witnesses are out to paint his client in a negative light in order to obtain reduced sentences for their own crimes. Padron Thomas’ plea deal has guaranteed that he will serve no time behind bars for his part in the incident. Prosecutors have allowed him to plead guilty to a reduced charge of manslaughter, dropping the murder charges he originally faced alongside his brother. They had also agreed to allow him to serve any sentence he receives concurrently with his federal prison sentence.

It looks like it was a ghastly encounter that would make some of the hardest thugs clean up their act.

Considering the circumstances, if TI explains exactly what happened, would that still fall under the “snitching” category?

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Comments(60) on “T.I. To Take the Stand”

  1. Hannibal

  2. Hannibal

    SNITCH…

  3. Is it that serious?

    That wouldn’t be snitching. But of course, internet thugs would say so.

  4. Hannibal

    DAMN INTERNET THUGS…


  5. It ain’t snitching…ha actually has real ***** going on in his life. Its easy for a hundred dollar ***** to hate and call somebody a snitch when he doesn’t have anything to protect.


  6. Snitching is when you tell and keep it a secret… Stupidity are you internet hating thugs, that sit up and probably hate on your on *****.

  7. MsTip

    yup. its snitching but damn that dude snitched on his own brother….smh!

  8. dapro

    No TI isn’t snitching a life was lost in this madness,

    snitching is getting caught in the act of or after the fact and implicating others because you got caught

  9. TruTV

    Ohhh, now I get it, that’s how TI got out of doin mad years in the clink…..so he is a snitch. Its all good cuz murderers and criminals should go to jail. Its just that he used to preach that no snitchin BS to sell records and now look at him.

  10. TruTV

    .

  11. Douchebaggery

    T.I is a *****ing rat. Why do you think he’s only getting 1 year rather than 10?

    Talking all that tough ***** street talk, but T.I is a *****ing *****. Rappers need to stay in their lane, stop talking gangster *****, if they’re a bunch of *****es. T.I will be in protective custody like the *****got that he is.

  12. MsTip

    it is snitching if someone does a crime and you stand in court and say YES HE DID IT! if thats not snitching i dont know wtf is!!!

  13. Douchebaggery

    “No TI isn’t snitching a life was lost in this madness,

    snitching is getting caught in the act of or after the fact and implicating others because you got caught”

    You’re a dumb *****got you know that? Since when is it “gangsta” to tell on someone who killed your friend. If you consider yourself to be a civilian, then it’s fine but if you consider yourself to be a gangster like T.I says he is, then you’re a *****ing rat. So shut the ***** up dapro, you’re a *****.

  14. WAY2GROWN

    I say snitch given the fact that he a 7 time felon that got caught with army guns and got a year prison time and community service. Yeah.

  15. MsTip

    a real n!gga wont tell them boys ***** he’ll handle his business and get them n!ggas back for doin what they did..he need to do what he says in his songs n get big ***** poppin..

  16. JC 'o B'klyn

    Snitching is when one tells on their homeboys/girls; when one becomes a witness to a crime he/she was not involved in.


  17. STOP IT RIGHT NOW BOSSIPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My husband has never nor will he ever snitch!!!

    How dare you people discuss him being a rat so nonchalantly!

    I beleive the word you people are looking for is PAID! Yes when you are paper’d up you can kill a ***** and get off let alone get off on a funky gun case!

    You bossipers betta check yaselves! My baby earned his stripes in the streets and aint changed and damn sho’ aint snitching!!!

  18. DOT F BANGER

    DO ANY OF YOU REALIZE IT DONT MATTER WHAT HE SAY’S. THAT HIS OWN DAMN BROTHER SNITCH ON EM, NOW THAT’S FOUL.

  19. closetcolumnist

    Just sad. To think- probably all of the individuals involved have kids. Now we know how these vicious cycles continue.

  20. Shawn

    No it’s not snitching…

    There is only two ways to be called a snitch… You are an offender of crime along side one person to a group of persons, you get caught, and rat on others to get a reduced charge.

    Second way; you get caught in a crime, and to get a lesser charge you rat on someone police and/or detectives consider a greater person of interest.

    YOU ARE NOT A SNITCH IF A CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED AGAINST YOU, AND YOU DECIDE TO COOPERATE SO THAT THE OFFENDERS GET CHARGED!!!

  21. dapro

    Douchebaggery

    another internet gangsta

    I never said Tip was gangsta, it’s cowards like you that act tought on a blog, face to face you couldn’t look at me or someone like me

    Seriously, lil man your a coward.

  22. dapro

    Really your name screams *****- Douchebaggery

    WTF!?!! LMAO…..come on son, can you see the irony in you calling me a *****

    SMH

  23. T$

    i’d like to know what one of you would do if your child hood friend brains got blew out right in front of you,. Now dem brothers…they snitchin trying to cover they selves but what TI is doing is cool to me cause if you can’t give em a street life sentence yourself why not set em up for life some where else.

  24. Its The Foosa

    I aint gonna call the man a snitch, but T.I. proclaims himself as a street *****, and where im from, street *****s never testify for any reason, unless they want to wear that snitch jacket.

  25. Shells

    All of you who say TI is a snitch is a damn fool. You clowns thing running around in the street trying to shoot up who killed his boy is real *****. WTF should happen to his kids and family if he gets killed or end up behind bars for life? Are you gonna support and take care of them? Damn clowns. See he already gotta do time for trying to take matters into his own hands. Those brothers are snitching on themselves. TI’s testimony will only add to what they already know. You dumb*****es wanna talk about being street yet ya’ll can’t do ***** if it comes down to it. If more of us would take a stand like TI, so many of our black men wouldn’t be dead and their familes mourning the loss. So many kids wouldn’t be fatherless and left to fend for themselves. Get a grip people and appreciate life. It is a precious gift and you only get one chance at it.

  26. mzsweetface

    I didn’t think TI would come back to Cincy after what happend but I guess he is doing what he feels is right. Maybe now Philan’ts family can be somewhat at peace. I’m ready to go downtown myself and get a peek of TI’s sexy self. LOL

  27. lovely1

    yeah he a snitch..

    7x time felon caught with ten machine guns and only gets 1 year on top of that this ***** did a psa telling people how to give tips to the police (youtube it) now this? he’s testyfing now? if he was a real street ***** like claims in his raps he would of handled it in the streets not the court room smh the *****s a hypocrite and a snitch

    T.I. KILL YO SELF SNITCH!!!!!!!!!

  28. WAY2GROWN

    Street ***** rule #4080-If u claim the streets u cant work with police. Period. Street rules is like any other u can justify all u want about kids and cir*****stances but rules is rules. If u cooperate with authorities u cannot claim gangsta.

  29. Taz

    who cares. *****…bigger issues in the world.

  30. Rissie

    @ Shells

    Thank you!! Very well put. I’ll be a snitch all day if it means protecting MINE…. SMFH at these dumb***** internet thugs….

  31. 12345

    This whole snitching thing is stupid. If you wanna clean up the neighborhood, and have your kids raised safely without the threat of drugs and gang warfare… then you better start snitching. I dont give a dam what the “street” rules say. If these thugs were real men, they would stop taking the lives of their brothers and sisters and start doing something positive for their “hood”

  32. Meeko From Detroit (Born and Raised in the City of Wolves)

    DUMB*****ES. especially internet wannabe thugs

    ***** you all. Bossip *****suckers stay doing *****. if T.I. was a real *****. he would stand up for his friend and tell it all. TELL everything he knows. they got them *****s. what else can he do. ***** them streets cause they will still be there after your dumb ***** is gone to meet your maker.

    i cant believe the mentailty of ignorant dumb *****s man.

    douchebaggery. your name speaks volumes. real street *****s move in silence. they never speak. but you wouldnt know that. you think cause you saw Menance to Society you all hard now. ***** outta here. betcha cant come talking that mess in detroit. flat out.

    shouts out to Detroit Gem

  33. WAY2GROWN

    U clowns is confusing the streets with normal society. Anyway if u a family man how gangster can u be?

  34. sweetcake

    Unbelievable! Do you ppl not know that rappers are actors??? I mean what street ***** you know is going to talk about all the brick he is selling and shooting *****s and all of that? That is snitching on yourself!!! So does that make all rappers snitches?

    TI is an actor on CDs. *****ody is street in the rap game! “It is only entertainment”, as JayZ said it!

    So for the douchebag person and whom ever else says TI claims the streets in his raps and is a snitch cause he ain’t living up to his rap songs, is a *****ing clown! PERIOD the end! KILL yourself douchebag! You ain’t a gansta…Gangstas don’t comment on blogs and use acronyms….your a fraud! Peace

  35. Lady D

    That whole “Stop Snitching” act is getting a little old. Here’s a new motto: DON’T DO DUMB *****!!! Given all the technology that is out and about, you’re bound to get caught anyway. Point blank, if you can barely trust your own friends nowadays, then how is telling on the enemy who KILLED YOUR FRIEND a bad thing? That code of the streets ***** is played out and a little faulty. If someone shot my peoples, I damn sure would tell. If they’re not my immediate family, then ***** em’ because I know that if the tables were turned and I shot someone, best believe someone would tell on me. That comes along with doing dumb *****. Those who still follow that bull***** ***** code will probably grow to be a bunch of hard ups with no clue. If people put as much time and effort into their family and education as they put into the streets, the black community will be so healed. One last point (and this may be completely off subject), but gangs are played out! So called “GANGSTA” ***** is played out! Please, if your gang consists of a bunch of young bucks faking by the stop sign of your neighborhood, you’re not gangsta. If you all hang out in the streets all damn day, and all you come home with is a stolen fitted cap or something petty, you ain’t gagsta. If you’re a “gangsta” and you owe back child support, reevaluate your definition of “gansta”. This is just my opinion: Live up to the code of being a good person, before you start worrying about what’s good in the streets. There are a few dudes/chicks who are actually struggling and grinding for the sake of family, but they don’t have a handbook. All this UNORGANIZED CRIME foolishness is silly… Until someone gets a degree in thugology, please quit with this fake ***** imaginary handbook of how to be hard up for no reason.

  36. Tracy

    We were put on this earth to live abundantly, and I just dont understand why “men” especially black men, dont aspire for more than street life. Your life is over for stupid azz crimes.

    A man is dead for what? There is no coming back from that. If somebody gets shot or killed in front of me. I AM TELLING, I AM TELLING, I AM TELLING. My loyalty is to the safety of my community, not to a lowlife, no self esteem having loser.

    I love black men, and it saddens me that they are missing the beauty of life, by cutting their own lives short with jail, and eventually death. What kind of life is that.

  37. InsertDopeWordsHere

    R.i.p. Philant. You were a good dude. Blessings to your daughter and her mother. Hope justice is served.

  38. leem rothstein

    of course that aint telling but he did that already thats why he got only one year get off his ***** he’s a rat ***** thats trying too do the right thing now but what about all the people in jail for his rat *****.

  39. sweetcake

    leem…..who he put in jail? My point is lyrics don’t neccessarily=lifestyle….

    I thought he got 1 year bc money talks and bull ***** walks!

  40. TruTV

    Its technically not snitchin, but it is for TI. For me, I would testify, but I don’t nor never have claimed to be gangster. All his records this dude made about being a G, he’s now showing that he’s a fraud. So in TI’s case, yes he’s a snitch. To non gangsters who never claimed to be gangster and are civilians, no its being a good person.

    Like dude said, if he was who he claimed to be in countless songs and the persona he made a career out of, if that was really him, a G then he would have taken care of the shooters out of court and without police. Feel me?

  41. TruTV

    that whole actor excuse is played out by the way. I ain’t feelin it. He shoudl testify, i would want anyone who witnessed a murder to testify BUUUT he made millions upon millions of dollars being a fake. I bet TI genuinly believes he’s a G. And he used to tell the whole world not to snitch and to kill people in his lyrics. he gets no p***** from me.

  42. message

    @Lady D

    Good job! I have been thinking and saying the same thing for years. I used to run with my older cousins and homies in a set and as I got older, I watched all of my homeboys and homegirls end up in jail, in wheelchairs, or dead behind this B.S. thug life. After a while you get tired of visiting loved ones in the hospital and visiting grave sites. Especially once they stop bangin’. What these young gangsta’s fail to realize is that it’s usually your homies who end up settin’ you up, robbin’ you, etc… because those are the fools who roll with you day in and day out. Sometimes they know you better than you know yourself. What I’m sayin’ ya’ll is that it is important to fix and make up for the wrongs you did in life, cause if you die today, are those streets gonna save you from hell? No. Are those same thugs that you were keepin’ it real for gonna save you from hell? No. Can you save yourself by reforming and saving these kids from the same B.S. that we were taught to be the thing to do, but actually hepled create more genocide for our people. Maybe. I’d rather have maybe.

    @sweetcake

    U R correct!. E-40 even said that rappin’ is entertainment, The things he raps about he has either seen or heard. They are all studio gangsta’s. The only rapper that I can think of off of the top of my head who actually probably put in work (He still denies claims) was X-raided. He probably still locked up too. So also try to distinguish the difference between reality and make-believe. That is why I sat down with my kids and explained to them at an early age the difference between T.V. and reality. Cartoons don’t die, but people do. So if you met Jeffrey Dahmer before he got caught would you have told that he was eating people? I would’ve. Call me a snitch, cause I only like a few things gettin’ ate and it ain’t my limbs! Lol!

  43. KB

    Hel naw that’s not snitchin. If anyone sits by and watch the murderer of their friend get off because of fear that they would be called a snitch is not a “stand up guy” Who cares of what others think of you. As a true friend you have a duty to be tru and real. I’m tellin!

  44. Kevin W.

    Why would it be snitchin’ to testify against some animal that killed your best friend? That stop snitching shyt is the reason the ghetto will remain a wasteland.

  45. DC

    there is nothing but a bunch of ***** *****S in here. it becomes a time in ur life when you have to put the streets down & think about ur family. this ***** is making millions telling about his life on the streets. the streets is not taking care of him anymore you ***** *****S are. if he sniitch on someone to get of those gun charges the world will now. when u are not in the game anymore u not a ganngsta anymore. yall think this ***** going to ***** up millions to please u ***** *****S on bossip. bossip helps this ***** sell millions

  46. missunderstood

    you weak azz internet thugs need to grow up! How would you feel if someone killed your loved one right in front of you?!?! It’s not snitching, it’s standing up and being a MAN and doing what is right for his cousin. Obviously, he was attempting to handle things himself, and it didn’t work out in his favor. Let them monsters go head and rot in prison for the rest of their lives. I don’t care if he’s a rapper, actor, bum on the streets, a life is a life… where have the morals of this world gone, when we would have such people go free – let loose to roam among OUR OWN FRIENDS AND FAMILY, rather than to simply tell the freaking truth and let justice take its course? Hell in a handbag, I tell ya…. Hell in a handbag….

  47. kaiistar

    Hannibal is obviously young and may i add dumb!! and has a lot to learn as well as anyone else who thinks that someone who helps take a potientially violent person off the streets is a snitch. there comes a time in a persons life when they realize street credit and trying to impress others gets u now where and u can c whats really important and begain to make wiser decisions, t.i is at that point in his life and doin wht he has to do and for that i give him applause. many should follow his lead and grow up.

  48. Slim

    Snitching is when you rat on your friend or partner in order to save your own *****- as in a betrayal.

    This dude killed his best friend! This isn’t snitching, this is getting justice and peace for his murdered partner. All of you can talk some sh*t about “snitch” and “rat” but if some dude shot your best friend in the head right in front of you, you can’t even front like you wouldn’t do the same thing.

  49. GODDESS1

    @Hannibalector!! up their…

    I suppose if you ***** get shot and killed and your mother knew who killed you and wanted justice for you … and she pointed the finger at your killer she be snitching huh?.

    Listen fool…no matter how much you little negros want to act tough … when the gun barrel is pointed at your face… ask yourself is the face of the killer you want to protect…

    Only cowards carry guns….

    48POWERS!!!!

  50. Not Today

    Big up to Tip, for making positive moves to guide the current generation in a better direction. Some of you *****ers talk that no Snitching *****, but how many of really get down like that?


  51. THAT WHY HE ONLY GOT A SLAP ON THE WRIST FOIR THEM WEAPONS.SNITCHING T.I.


  52. TI IS NOT A SNITCH IF THE KILLER WAS ALREADY SNITCHED ON DUMMIES!!

    But If I killed ur mom would u snitch?

    Who says he’s gonna snitch just cuz he’s testifying? No one knows what he will say, if anything helpful to authorities at all since they know what happened already.

    The killer was already snitched on…and are we forgetting why T.I. is going to jail? So he’s dumb for getting guns to kill someone, but he’s also a snitch because he has to testify in court because he didn’t get the chance to kill someone?…you normal 9-5 or street corner gangstas are so broke, sorry and wack.

    We need to change the rules…instead of stop snitching, stop doing dumb *****. Then there’d b no reason to snitch.

  53. Cain

    I thought we cleared this snitch ***** up with Cam’ron. Look your best friend gets killed you know by who. You better stand up and say something. I don’t know what kind of Man/Woman you are if you don’t speak. You have a obligation to your friend his family and all those who love him to stand up for what’s right. Now the real question about the snitching should be directed towards the brother. I find it funny that people talk about snitching. If you do a crime do it by yourself and keep your *****ing mouth quiet, then you won’t have to worry about snitching period.

  54. The Bear (I bleed swagger) My dog is STILL GIDDY as hell about Obama's victory

    All this over getting into a club??? Pure foolishness.

    Padron already snitched on his own brother!!! He got subpoenaed so T.I. would be foolish not to at least testify… Technically the most T.I. could do is either confirm or deny the real snitch’s story so he gets a p***** on that one.

    The Feds must have had their hand WAAYYYYYYYYY up Padron’s butt for him to snitch on his own brother. Either that or he’s got a weak mind.


  55. HIS HEAD REMINDS ME OF AN ERASER.

    @CAIN THIS CHUMP WAITED TILL HE GOT POPPED BEFORE SNITCHING.

  56. Kev mase

    It is sad that *****s are still this dumb. I hope all the people on here calling TI a snitch have a family member or friend killed so they can keep it “street”. You *****s have really *****ed up ideals.

  57. roe ski love

    Being uneducated is a dangerous thing. Lets see here, dude was *****ed that he couldn’t get in the VIP, so he wants to kill someone over that. TIP is now being called a snitch because his boy got killed for no real reason. Dudes own brother realized how bad the situation became and wanted out, so he protects himself from going to jail or the death chamber, and he is a really bad person for bringing the true murderer to justice. Tip loses his street cred now. You stupid dumb a$$ biatches, life is not about that. How about making a contribution to society instead. Or you can hold on to street logic (stupid *****) and be a victim of society.

  58. TheRenegade

    Like it or not folks the question DOES have to be asked. How this ***** only get 1 year for possessing machine guns and Silencers??? I believe that carries a mandatory 15 years or somethin like that. I know it carries at least 15. So how do yall know he didn’t snitch on somebody??? How do yall know he got out of it because he’s got long money? Usually the only Black Celebrities that are able to get out of serious trouble are Athletes. When’s the last time a rapper not named Puff caught a break in a legal matter? Did Remy Ma get off light? Prodigy? Mystikal? Hell Mike Vick didn’t even get off that light. I still think the cir*****stances surrounding his punishment are real suspect. That shyt is just unheard of.

  59. grow-the-f$$k-up-people

    look if you kill one of my people and i see you do it and if i don’t have a gun on me at the time i will call the police. look Boston has a no snitch policy, if you don’t call the police or testify guess what you keep these same sick crazy a$$ people walking among us to kill rape and rob again

  60. nitty

    see thats what wrong with ppl now…talking about street rules(that rap talk)yall dum aases.life doesn’t invole around rap,stop watching these studio gangsta and listing to every word that they dream up,hell they dont even do the ***** they say in there music,it kill me when ppl say “if Ti is gangsta like he proclaim to be”drop dead ppl he going to say anything to get to get you dum awss to buy the record.there no such thing is snitching its using ur common since,having respect for other and obeying the law

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