firsthahaha dont care bout da subject though!

The world is flat…the end of the cold war and technology made it so…for more information read ” The World is Flat” by Thomas Friedman.

At least I HOPE that is to what she was referring.

boooooooooo!!!!

doesn’t she have to run her comments past whoopi

she didn’t say that the world was flat…she said that she didn’t know…a little dumb, but you took it too far

lisa,

I am pretty sure she wasn’t quoting Thomas friedman when she said the world is flat.

If you watch the video, she never really said “the world is flat”. I mean she sort of danced around the question.. maybe she honestly didn’t know. I don’t know how or why she wouldn’t know… but I guess she just didn’t.

The only thing that’s flat are her feet.

FORGET HER WEAR YOUR BLACK TOMORROW

SUPPORT THE JENA SIX!

Ron:

DAMN GLORIA!!!!!

get it.

Damn Gloria! Break it down. You are 100% correct. A beautiful educated black woman would have been a total threat. I’m glad they hired Whoopi though – she may dress a mess but she seems to be intelligent and opinionated….

good graces…

I probably agree with poster Gloria the most. It’s unfortunate that this is the picture the entertainment world paints of blacks. Same thing on the news…they will find the most raggedy ignorant person to say what happened. Sad.

i would like to add however that there are plenty of ignorant ass white folks that will do just about anything for a paycheck…case in point fear factor and survivor…

can’t pay me enough to eat a donkeys ass (no pun intended)

oh and I’m white and I enjoy this site a lot

@ Gloria

Although we would like to bash this woman for her ignorant comments, there is a possibility that she was instructed by the producers of the show to act in such a way as to not usurp authority over “all mighty Barb.” Because as the strongest specimen on the planet, we can do that!

@Baby Please

I didn’t say she was instructed to say those specific words but she as in any skit, each character has their part. She was the town idiot.

With all of the qualified, beautiful & intelligent sistas present in the media today. The powers that be over at The View decide to place this modern day Mamie in the spot light?

This is the problem I have w/ the entertainment world…WHY WHY WHY?!

When Star Jones was a 300 pounds white america LOVED her but as soon as she lost the weight & started looking glam they felt threatened!

Fact: Middle America is more comfortable with the big boned, sassy talking, neck rolling “Mamie’s” like Sherri & un-attractive, loud, A sexual type’s like Whoopi Goldberg?!

This is a sad yet true statement!

Wow Gloria I just read your statement & Lol we are totally on the same page!

When The View announced that Shepherd and Goldberg were going to be on the show, Wendy Williams was the first to say that it is ridiculous how the industry has to pick non-threatening black women, and she was so right. There are many black women who could fill that role:

Latanya Richardson (Sam Jackson’s wife)

Phylicia Rashad (or Debbie Allen)

Sheryl Lee Ralph

Jacque Reed

Bev Smith (from BET Our Voices)

Gwen Ifill(…it would be too frivolous for her, but I would like to see her do something other than McNeil/Leher)

Wendy Williams

Robin Givens

so many women…

Although I agree with what Glorai and Essence 1 said, I don’t think it applies to this.

Sheir was only trying to defend her faith. And people will take Faith over science everyday. Do we really know that the “world” is round We know that the Earth is round, but Whoopi ask about the world. I respect that Sheri stood on her reglious beliefs and was not moved from them on national TV.

Sherri never answered the question. I don’t think she stated the world was flat. An issue I now have with this, though, is that it seems like she’s supposed to be the resident stupid girl. So they kept asking her the question to see if she was dumb enough to say it was. RUDE.

Ya’ll need to check out the discussion on Sherri on BV, cause of lot of blacks seem to think that Sherri’s being hired was some kind of victory for black women.

http://blackvoices.aol.com/blogs/2007/09/11/the-skinny-on-the-views-sherri-shepherd/

I think that she wanted to answer correctly, the question was kinda out of left field and i think that after whoopi explained it sherri kept defending what she said because the stupid comment already came out. I watched her on the show a few times and she didnt seem stupid but she did get pounced on by the rest of the view members (in particular when she was talking about the breakup with her husband). As far as her not trying to compromise her religious beliefs i kinda agree with TSimp

To Gloria,

I’m glad someone finally said what I’ve been thinking!!!!!

That was truly embarrassing to watch. Next she’ll say she doesn’t know if we landed on the moon or if the holocaust and slavery took place.

I think she and Elisabeth bring a level of ignorance to the show that is beyond belief. That’s why I no longer watch it.

She’s a walking, talking stereotype. The View would have been better served if they hired someone who is articulate, well informed and classy like Jacque Reid.

Today she admitted that she had a brain freeze moment because it’s the first time she’s been put on the spot like that having to defend her religion so publicly. Ofcourse she knows the world is round. She was just caught up and really had no idea what they were asking her. Like she said it sounded like a chemistry question. Lay of Sherri. So quick to hate on other black women.

Sherri, there’s only space for one idiot on that show.

Michelle

Ther are some questions when asked, should always provide a ready answer, assuming there is no traumatic brain injury involved.(Brain freeze does not count) An example of such a question is what is 1 + 1? (2) Is the earth round? (YES)

There is no “hating” on Black WOmen here. In fact, it is the opposite. We are concerned with our image out in the world, and we are attempting to finally stem the negative input that is constantly fed to the rest of the world. SHerei Shepherd is in a position to make a REALLY positive change, and she chooses not to..that is disheartening.

I don’t watch the View anymore.

Sorry for the typos

I actually meant OUTPUT- not input.

Thanks Ladies

Contact ABC The View folks and let the producers know about this travesty to us. It was all planned because there were so many other choices this Babara Walters could have made, but she chose this stupid woman for her own personal reasons. Walters is of the age and era when black people were always portrayed as fools as she wants this tradition to continues. The media right now is satuated with images of black mammies, but interestingly enough they don’t pick on other minority women this way. Even women in minority groups who are known to be fat, they simply love to pick on us. Many years ago, when Frank McGee, a white newscaster fell in love with a black woman at ABC, Barbara was not very nice to this woman and i am told did things to sabotage her career. I cannot stand that old white witch.

This is exactly why Tyler Perry and other black producers should not continue to perpetuate this image of fat, black mammies on their shows. They should not join in the attack against us in order to get paid, because I for one

am sick and tired of it.

@Michelle

uh-uh (smh),no. “Is the world flat,” is not a “final jeopardy” caliber question, nor is it a question that would put her religious beliefs in question, cause whether or not the world is flat has nothing to do with the creationism vs. evolution debate. I mean if that question stumped her, what’s she going to say when the topic is about euthenasia? “Well I think the youth in Asia are great!” I used to DVR that show, but that was when Star was on. At least you could always count on Star for a lawyer’s perspective. What awesome perspective is Sherri bringing to the show?

@ Lisa

I’d like to give my Top 10 Favorites for the 2 vacant spots most recently given to Whoopi & Sherri

1} Nia Long

2} Holly Robinson Peete

3} Jacque Reed

4} Aisha Tyler

5} Robin Givens

6} Kelly Rowland

7} Tariji Henson

8} Essence Atkins

9} Vanessa Bell Armstrong

10} The sista who played Toni Childs on Girlfriends

STOP WATCHING TV!!!!!!!!!!

Sherri was just trying to cover her ass and keep from getting attacked by Whoopie. She didn’t say the world was flat. Whoopie asked her that question to make a point. Sherri was smart enough to see where Whoopie was going with it and instead of being honest, she tried to deflect it by saying “I don’t know, I never thought about it. What I do think about is feeding my kids.”, thus trying to get sympathy. She didn’t say that she would teach her kids that, she said if they ask her, she will look into it then. I guarantee this woman will come forward and say something to this effect: “Of course I believe the world is round! What I meant was that I have never been in a spaceship and looked back at the Earth to see it’s shape with my own eyes. But from the pictures I’ve seen, I believe it is round.” Watch and see.

Hell Kim Porter! Give her a seat at the table I know she’d be decked out EVERY DAY Looking FAB!

@ Baby Please

DANG, DANG , DANG DANG DANG DANG!!!

LOL

BARBARA WALTERS IS AN OLD JEWISH WOMAN WHO WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS SHOW A JEWISH WOMAN LIKE ROSAANE(FAT, LOUD, STUPID,ARGUMENTIVE) on her show. This is the image of black women she enjoys portraying to the world, as Jews in Hollywood have done since the 1930′s. Barbara is more dangerous than any white supremist, because she is sneaky and not at all up front with it.Why did she not interview some of the pretty, physically fit young black women mentioned above, for her show. Why must she keep reaching back in time to resurrect that old ugly image of us fostered by Hollywood, that we are to be laughed at. We are clowns and unconcerned about our apperance. That we could never be seen as physically fit, attractive, soft, feminine desirable women. We have to do something about this. Tyler Perry should be ashamed of himself always quoting the bible when the bible clearly teaches that gluttony is a sin and that people dig their own graves with a spoon and a fork. It is not okay to constantly show black womenin this negative lightbecause it gives such an ugly image of us to everyone with overweight related diseases racking our communities. Diabetes, high blood pressure, strokes and such. Black women are as concerned about our apperance, our education and sophistication as Jewish and other women.

what is with the you can separate a black woman from her weave comment that her and woopie made.

@ Laverne

Such poignancy in your words.

Laverne

YES

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First of all, Whoopi didn’t “attack” Sherrie. They were debating and Sherrie seemed afraid to give an inch to an opposite point of view.

That itself is ignorant that you would have to deny a universal truth to hold on to your rock-hard belief.

How THE HELL DO YOU UPLOAD A GRAVATAR!!!???

@ La. Finest

All we are saying is that we are tired of the same homogenized image of black women portrayed in the media. Yes, there is nothing wrong with being fuller figured & dang sure aint nothing wrong with being dark skinned. But, when all we see on tv, movies print ads, ect. is the standard Mammie which {if you are real with yourself} you will admit to the fact that sort of woman is not appealing, not alluring & definately not the sort of woman men find seductive.

I believe this is part of the reason our men seek relations out side the race. I’m just gonna be real here…most brothas are not attracted to the average sista. Some will say the average sista is loud, vulgar, over weight ect ect. WHICH IS WRONG, but when all they see is a ONE sided view of us WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS?

{and let me add the hue of a person’s skin has NOTHING to do with what I’ am talking about!}

@ Gloria – real talk!!

I will admit that I don’t watch the view. I didn’t even watch it when Star was on it.

So I am asking besides this statement why is Sheri Shepperd so bad? Has her other comments been bad. Is it because she is over-weight. Then others can argue that they don’t give over-weight women a chance on National TV.

Is it because her skin tone is dark. The others can say they only like to portray black people as light skin.

Black People Please…. Can we EVER support one another.

I watch this clip for a second time to see what was so mammie or dumb about her statment, and I just can’t find one. I see exaclty the point she was trying to make. Can she have said it differently… Yes she could, but to accuse her of dumb and being mammie is unfair. Actually she looked great on the show. No different than any of the other women on the list that people have stated.

As black women would love to tear another sister down. We love to be judgemental about how another sister wear her hair and what she wears, so on and so forth. That is so shallow of us as Black Women.

Someone please post a link or something of Sheri acting mammieish or dumb on the View because this link just doesn’t do it for me.

I agree with you TSIMP, I’m not personally a follower of any particular faith, though I believe in God, but, that doesn’t mean that I don’t respect other people’s beliefs. Ms Shepherd didn’t sound ignorant in my opinion though I do believe that it was the intention of certain co-host’s to allow her to appear so. She did not actually say she thought that the world was flat nor that she would indoctrinate her child with that belief. She was just standing by her faith and they were trying to diminish her own beliefs.

this is why i don’t watch the view, I don’t share they’re views… and that barb wilters…

@LA Finest

Sherri doesn’t have any major credentials (college degree or oscar, her own HBO comedy special,etc.)like the other women. She’s kind of known for her bit part, black best friend,minor actress, guest star tv roles. she’s obese, not big boned or a little fuller, obese,and she doesn’t come across as being very bright. Star might have been morbidly obese, but she never came across as stupid and she had something that the other women didn’t, legal expertise. When the meatier topics came up Star could hold her own. If Sherri wants to be a religious conservative like Elizabeth, then she should be better equipped to defend her POV. Rosie would come out of left field with her 9/11 conspiracy rap, but she would defend her claim so well, that she could have you doubting your position, even though in the back of your mind, you knew that her argument was garbage. And when political topics were discussed like the captured British sailors that wondered into Iranian seas, Rosie would throw out historical references like “Gulf of Tonkin” that would have everybody Googling. Sherri is just not on that level. No where near it. Sherri doesn’t make you think at all. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me just what it is she adds to the show besides a negative stereotype.

What makes Sheri Shepherd a negative sterotype?

Surly not the fact that she is over-wieght and dark. That couldn’t be it. Oh please say that is not it.

The world is square everyone knows that lmao

I blame barb wilted walters.her show, her hire. Don’t care for neither.

Okay I just watch this clip for the 3rd time.

I believe the point Whoopi was trying to make about asking is the world being flat is that many people believe something that Scientist can prove as true i.e. Evolution. Christians (like Shepherd) doesn’t believe this but Scientist claims to have facts that support this theory.

I believe Shepherd was just got caught of guard because Whoopi changed it up quickly and she was trying to figure out where Whoopi was going with the question. She should have stood her ground better.

But please someone explain to me how this woman is spreading negative stereotypes? If you want to talk about that FIRST start with these sorry A$$ rappers.

Sorry but I’ve been watching for the past couple days since Sherrie was hired and she DOES fill that particular stereotype that Barbara loves to have quite well! First of all she constantly talks about her weave. This week she said that she has hair weaves all over the house and when she asks her son to give her a kiss he picks up one of the weave pieces and kisses it! Now what dumb azz would even tell that story? Whoopie has bothered me also with her comment about how you can’t tear a black woman away from her hair weave, then they all proceed to ask Whoopie if her hair is real and Joy was tuggin on one of her dreads. Then you have today’s show with Sherrie being all loud and dancing in her seat about how fiiine Denzel is! She was all extra mouth all open grinding in her seat!!! I couldn’t agree more that they could have picked a beautiful, well educated black woman with the credentials to sit on the panel but they didn’t.

Sherrie admitted on todays show that she didn’t know the answer at the time because she was nervous and didn’t understand the question. If this doesn’t prove she’s a true dumb azz I don’t know what will. You should know that the Earth is round damn near second to as well as you know your name. I watched the show yesterday and cringed at how she wouldn’t answer the question, I thought she couldn’t be serious and not know the answer…could she? Then today the idiot basically admits that she really didn’t know answer! She was trying to stand on a platform saying she doesn’t believe in evolution but the sad part is I’m 100% sure that she doesn’t even KNOW what evolution means!!!

Sorry but I’m embarrassed for her and I agree she is the non threatening overweight type that white America doesn’t mind seeing. Just ask Oprah she has stated in the past that as soon as she lost weight is when she got tons of hate mail. I try to like Whoopi but her look isn’t much better or her statements. I’m still baffled to how these two got the job!

Thanks Hot Stuff for explaing to me why Sheri was so bad.

but…

concerning the weave… Alot of Black women and white women wear them so why is that such a bad sterotype. I am sure the other comment about her son is a joke because she is known to be a comedian.

I think you guys are being too hard on her. This is a new forum for her, give her a break.

But I respect everyone’s opinion, I just think we need to give her a break and let her grow into this new spotlight.

Also all of those other women,named above, how you know they didn’t ask them to be on the show. Some people wouldn’t dare do a show like the View after the mess with Star and Rosie.

Lastly for that person who brought up Frank McGee falling in love with a black woman, please send me a link, because I am finding it hard to believe that a white man in the 1960′s would make known that he loves a black woman and that a white woman could stop her career. Hell Barb was lucky for her career in the 1960′s.

@ TSimp

this isn’t a colorism debate and upthread, people have already given examples about why she embodies a negative black female stereotype. Stop bringing her phenotype into this, like people are hating on her because she’s darker skinned. Most of the people who have commented haven’t had a problem with Whoppi and have praised Star. Even Real Essence who doesn’t care all that much for Whoppi has mentioned sistahs of all shades that would be a good replacement for Sherri. And I’m not going to show support simply because she’s black. If nothing smart is coming out of her mouth and she’s on national tv, on a talk show no less, where she’s being judged by what she says and she’s dropping the ball, then she deserves to be called out. And she hasn’t been on the show for a week. She’s been a guest co-host for quite a while, so she should know what’s up.

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P.S. Thank you Baby Please. I did everything in ur instructions but I’m still struggling

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HOW THE HELL DOES THE GRAVATOR SHOW UP ONCE YOU’VE SET IT UP AT GRAVATOR.COM????

Sherri’s weight isn’t the problem. The problem I have with her is her lack of depth. She’s very one dimensional and she seems to be what Ms. Walters was looking for.

Funny how when Star Jones started to lose weight , they got rid of her. It was even said at the time that the Viewers could no longer identify with her. I was never really sure what that meant, or which demographic they were talking about.

We all know that it’s hard for women of color to be taken seriously, when they’re on tv acting like uneducated fools, or dancing with their asses hanging out in videos.

After reading some of the post here I went and created a blog for us to exchange ideas on how we can change this. I ‘m really inspired by all of the well throughout post that I’ve read. I think there are two groups on here, the people who don’t care as long as they see an African American face on tv and the people who do care and want that face to handle themselves with dignity and class.

Please visit my new blog if you’d like to discuss this an other important topics: http://noleap2gr8.blogspot.com/

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Damn, I feel as stupid as Sherri Shepard!

LOL @ Denise. Good one!

Thanks again, Baby Please. I just checked an old comment I made on a different subject and the gravatar showed up!! So maybe I am being impatient. Thanks again for the info.

Yep, I was being impatient. I guess I should use my nickname, “Esti.”

I couldn’t have done it wiith out Baby Please. Thanks for helping a sista out!

To Ilish:

I didn’t bring up color. Color was brought up before I posted. Also there were only 2 examples given to the problem with Sheri

1. She is always talking about her weave – given by Hot Suff

2. She is one dimensional – given by prettyflower.

I have read how she protrays a mammie and all the negative sterotypes of black women, but no one has give me exactly how she is doig that but the people I have state above.

Also I didn’t realize that she has been on the show before, so yes you are right about she should know whats up, but that brings up another point.

Was she bad before?

I know I am going to get slack for this comment, but is it possible that God has shown favor to Sheri and is given her an major opportunity.

I think we need to give her some time to grow and get better, we can’t write her off for one mistake.

Do I think other black woman would have been better for the job, yes I do, but I think we are being way to hard on Sheri.

Do I think black women have been protrayed negatively in media, Yes I do and we should do everything we can to change that image and NOT support movie and TV shows that does this.

But let’s not be too offended by everything, then the “others” will not take us serious on anything.

@Tsimp

no you weren’t the first to bring up color, but you, much like LA’s finest, did bring it up, and you were the last to mention it well after 98% of posters made no allusion to colorism at all, and I was responding to you, which I why I felt the need to say something to you and anyone else thinking of going that rout, before the thread went off on that tangent, because that’s not what this is about. You say that you’ve only come up with two points about how Sherri embodies a stereotype, but time and time again, people have mentioned how they thought Sherri was loud, overweight, inarticulate . . . how she isn’t contributing anything of substance to the show, how she’s non-threatening . . .like a mammy stereotype. Is it that people haven’t given you examples of Sherri embodying a stereotype, or is that you’re cherry picking certain points and ignoring the vast majority of others? Did you read the part where I said she makes lousy points, but unlike Rosie, doesn’t back them up?

“I know I am going to get slack for this comment, but is it possible that God has shown favor to Sheri and is given her an major opportunity.”

to make black women look bad on tv, right?

“Do I think black women have been protrayed negatively in media, Yes I do and we should do everything we can to change that image and NOT support movie and TV shows that does this.”

Well wouldn’t that mean “The View,” because instead of hiring a fitter, more articulate and educated black woman, they hired Sherri, who plays into a negative stereotype?

“I think we need to give her some time to grow and get better, we can’t write her off for one mistake.”

but people object to her for many reasons. This “flat world” incident is just one of them.

“But let’s not be too offended by everything, then the “others” will not take us serious on anything.”

maybe there’s some truth to that, I don’t know.

There are many Black Americans who are religious and go with the Bible and don’t watch National Geographic or read a book afraid to allow themselves to engage new information to challenge their assumptions. I find it interesting that so many people are so focused on Sheri but we all know people in our community, at work, and at church who think like this so to a certain extent she represents an aspect of black people that is very real though not true for all black people. I do not defend her ignorance, however I do find other Black women’s need to debase her through racist stereotypes created by the white media to be equally ignorant. We show our level of acculaturation by upholding stereotypes and classifying each other through them. Why is a black woman who is full figuered and dark automatically classified by other blacks as a mammie. I do not hear the Beyonces or the Rihannas of the world called Jezebels though in an earlier time that is exactly what they would be called if they were on the screen in the 1920′s. The classification of black women as mammies by other black women speaks to deaper issues between black women where we have taken the stereotypes created by white supremacy. Agree or disagree with Sheri if you want but leave the mammie talk in the bowels of Gone with the Wind where it belongs.

@Hotstuff-

thanks for filling me in, I cannot believe Whoopi let Joy tug on a dread and Sherry’s talking about weave. No wonder Rosie and Star were so pissed after they left the show. And I agree-there may have been controversy when Rosie and Star were there, but at least the conversations were adult and relevant. And say what you wnat about Star, but she was always articulate and well-spoken on that show. She did not portray her as a clown, and if I remember correctly, when they tried to talk about Star’s hair or outfits, she politely and tactfully redirected the conversation to something else.

@ Tsimp

You said “I am finding it hard to believe that a white man in the 1960’s would make known that he loves a black woman”

What is so hard to believe about THAT?! Alot of white male black female relationships were formed in the 60′s Lenny Kravitz’s mom for example was married to a white gentleman. My aunt & uncle were married in the 50′s and she’s BLACK!

Do your self a favor & do not make statements such as the one you made above because it shows lack of intelligence!

80sLady said:

“And say what you wnat about Star, but she was always articulate and well-spoken on that show. She did not portray her as a clown, and if I remember correctly, when they tried to talk about Star’s hair or outfits, she politely and tactfully redirected the conversation to something else”

Amen! Star Jones was on point, articulate, intelligent & always well groomed. That sista exuded calss & sophistication plus she knew her stuff about politics, the arts & culture, the legal system & she even knew what was relevant in the modern entertainment world because she was close acquaintances with many celebs. As matter of fact she was the one who advised Barbara Walters on the correct pronunciation of fiddy cents name.

I also remember one morning she mentioned how she & her sister had a lovely dinner with Olympic world runner {I forget his name but he was named the fastest man on earth} anyway, she mentioned how disgusted she that when leaving this fancy dinner the brotha could not get a cab to save his life. Star was heated & when the other women tried to give excuses as to why the cabbies probably didn’t stop Star politely put them in their places, she didn’t get loud or resort to neck rolling & eye bugging tactics she simply stated that even though her male friend was a great athlete who made major strides & accomplishments in his personal & professional life, he was a Black man & that is what blacks living in america have to endure on an ongoing basis no matter how well dressed well spoken or educated. She pointed out that the masses view us based on our complexion & that a new day was coming so all those who thought like that, are in for a RUDE awakening! Star received so much applause…Star received a standing ovation from the audience!

1. Who cares???

2. Stop hating on successful black women.

3. Shut the f@@k up!

Idiot…

Note to Sherri: All you have to is be quiet and give me those damn shoes you rocking in that pic Boo Boo!! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..

[YAWNS] This was so staged…lol.

Didn’t we decide that the world was round hundreds of years ago? Sherri is tripping she needs to read a history book. Someone please buy her a globe!

Sherri is a fat shame and a embarrassment to the whole society at large and after u get fired they will never put black women on tv again! I know Whoopi was rolling over in her grave as she watched u say this bullcrap! DAM! The next day, Dumbass blonde EB was trying to come to your defense! Black and Blonde, 2 dumb ass broads!

@GLORIA

BRAVO!!!!!!!

@eve0513

STOP WATCHING TV!!!!!!!!!!

yes!!!!!!!!

“she’s been put on the spot like that having to defend her religion so publicly.”

She meant her Master’s false religion!

“Next she’ll say she doesn’t know if we landed on the moon or if the holocaust and slavery took place.’

Many holocaust took place BUT only one was treated like the only one when it was only a WAR created by Zionist! And still today many think the walk on the moon was staged or there would have been many more walks, trots and running on the moon by now??