Here is Jay-Z’s first single “Blue Magic” ft. Pharrell off his American Gangster album. We’ll let you make your own decision, but we were kinda disappointed especially at the En Vogue “Hold On” hook by P. Willy.
jay z is that nikka!!! he makes music for adults that’s all can we adults enjoy hip hop too??? if you can’t relate go pick up some of that pure street crack (packaged ignorance) it’s plenty out there!! you got fiddy- freaky zeaky – hell rell… let us mature ones enjoy some too
Song is hard…That hard ***** aint made for these groupie gossipy ***** women…This is the wrong site to ask for opinions on hip hop…If you want an insightful critic of his tie, then you ask the *****es up here…Leave the hip hop questions for true hip hop heads…
lmao. i love when people come with the ‘mature’ excuse when someone isnt feeling jay’s *****. i ride with common all day. that’s music for the mature crowd. this ***** is weak! sorry!
Im sorry…I enjoy “adult” music and was feeling Kingdom COme very tough…matter fact been blasting it lately. But this joint cant do it! Hopefully this doesnt reflect the album
This song is pure garbage. The lyrics, the hook, J, P… any way you wanna pull it. Kingdom Come might have sold 600,000 the first week, but to date it’s at 1.5mill. They said the worst selling album since his 1997 release. Kingdom Come was look I’m older and I’ve made a lot of money…This is wack. There is nothing mature about this song. 80’s is where they made him…. ummmmm
LMOA @ ***** BAG BOY!!!!! You are so funny! Unfortunately, I cant listen to this at my desk. But I can almost bet my lunch money that it sucks. What is up with him lately? Why cant he just sit it down already? His “thirstiness” is obviously rubbing off on Bey, cause she cant sit it down neither!
i know J was glad to the the American Gangsta CD, so he can still talk about the same BS when he first came out. the song suck. people think just b/c its J its good. only a immature person would keep rappin about being gangsta, he has shown now advancement in his music or his life.
im 30yrs and i be damned if im going to be running around here talkin about being gansta and selling drugs, im to old for that shyt. thats what IGNORANT people do. GROW DA F*** UP, 30 is not the new 20 its just an excuse to keep doing what u did in your 20s.
this song was garbage, this camel is having a midlife crisis, he doesn’t know when to stop,and he called his girl a creole skee-o wow, he has 10 albums already talkin about this i did n’t know he still was pushing while at the executive desk,what a cornball. seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaa.
yo dont get me wrong im not a fan of the song but i give the ***** the respect he deserves because for the past two years i could count the *****s on my one hand in the rap game who went plat and hes one of them. You cant expect the song to relate to you when it suppose to be relating to a movie.
This song is hard. Gangsta Jay may have returned to his cociane flow and rhymes. It may not be for everyone but the streets will love what he has to say. This song in terms of rhymes is hard and something he has not done in a while.
I will probably like this song after they run it in the whole for the next week on the radio but………..I wish he would retire and stay retired. he can keep his credibility if he continues to make money and do cameos on other peoples *****. let us miss him or something.
Just because Jay is older he cant ryhme about drugs anymore? Rap is entertainment so that like telling a action star he cant do action movies anymore. Also on the other hand Jay out of all the “drug rappers” has talked about so many other things why not let him slide if decides to talk about drugs again. If you were not a fan of Jay z before Vol II you probably wont feel this song because I dont think he trying to hit that crowd.
This is just 80’s *****e rap for those that dont know. He just using the movie to motivate himself to spit that 80’s *****e ryhmes and finsih talking about what he did or saw during that period which he was spitting in reasonable doubt or Vol one.
i guess i miss the part when rapper swore to tell the truth and nothing bout the truth lol yall *****s be tripping im sure ti or none of them other guys in the movie was around either. *****s can rap on what ever they feel like weather or not the been through it or not it entertains me and alot of other people
Like I said, You can’t get a good critic on street hip hop from a bunch of gossipy *****es on a blog…Please stick to asking these doofy *****es”which one would they hit” cause that’s the only question they ever be asked in the first place…
“If you don’t like it then look in the mirror,
Most likely you don’t live it so you don’t get it” -JayZ.
The same way Chappelle dropped the mic and said “I’m out” at the end of his show is what this clown should’ve done with his last cd. This almost compels me to go get my box and sit on the corner of 125th & Lenox blasting Avril Lavigne. Hova is ova.
Like I said, You can’t get a good critic on street hip hop from a bunch of gossipy *****es on a blog…Please stick to asking these doofy *****es”which one would they hit” cause that’s the only question they ever be asked in the first place…
“If you don’t like it then look in the mirror,
Most likely you don’t live it so you don’t get it” -JayZ.
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Co sign. You said it best and the Jay rhyme make it even better and clearer.
Yea these younger kids 24 and down can’t relate.. They don’t know anything about hip hop except songs that have no meaning such as pop lock and drop it. Stuff like that. Now this is not the greatest of songs from J but it’s def a new trend setter instead of having all this lip gloss stuff out here.
First of all the geeks at Bossip talk sh** about everybody, And check it IT’S Bossip. Do you really think the people there have any type of music sense? This song is hard if you retards listen to the song and see the concept of it this song is crazy! Hov is taking it back and taking it away from this solja boy “NO I MEAN YOUUUUU” ***** most of the bloggers on here love. And then when you listen to what he’s saying and understand that its painting a image of the 80’s drug game and letting you know how Jay got to where he is now! You have to respect it this song is crazy and its gonna bump. Hova is ova lol please Hov is that dude expand your mind and stop looking for the next ring tone if your a real hip hop head you know this song is fire period point blank. If you like that bull ***** commercial ***** then your gonna look for the next gimmick. Who else would they tag to do the sound track for this movie??? Im gettin ittt Im gettin it Im getttin a gettin a gettin ittt!!! lol he crushed it sorry
First of all the geeks at Bossip talk sh** about everybody, And check it IT’S Bossip. Do you really think the people there have any type of music sense? This song is hard if you retards listen to the song and see the concept of it this song is crazy! Hov is taking it back and taking it away from this solja boy “NO I MEAN YOUUUUU” ***** most of the bloggers on here love. And then when you listen to what he’s saying and understand that its painting a image of the 80’s drug game and letting you know how Jay got to where he is now! You have to respect it this song is crazy and its gonna bump. Hova is ova lol please Hov is that dude expand your mind and stop looking for the next ring tone if your a real hip hop head you know this song is fire period point blank. If you like that bull ***** commercial ***** then your gonna look for the next gimmick. Who else would they tag to do the sound track for this movie??? Im gettin ittt Im gettin it Im getttin a gettin a gettin ittt!!! lol he crushed it sorry
And another thing about the track its for the new movie American Gangsta. The whole movie was based in the 80’s. You super old heads are still bumpin that Earth Wind & Fire.
You common heads finally got common into hip hop discussions but sorry he’s not as creative as jay. This song takes you back to the 80’s and highlights the main issues of that time. Listen to the lyrics everything is not about hooks and one liners. Take rap to the basics to teach these bumbs how to rap.
Bottom this is hip hop used to make money. This movie is gonna be big and hov is promoting it.
yeah i know artist entertain, but at the sametime they swear by there IMAGE that who they are. If its just that then y are so many artist act like that HARD then when some real shyt happens they b*tch up.
Oh and one more thing about Bossip, they always hate on Jay I forgot. Lol these motha *****as have been hatin on him ever since i discovered this. He killed it
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 19 — Jay-Z, the rap superstar and president of Def Jam Records, has quietly returned to the studio to record an album of new songs inspired by the forthcoming movie “American Gangster,” his first “concept” album and second CD in less than a year.
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The Trailer for ‘American Gangster,’ featuring music by Jay-Z
The album, which his label plans to release in early November, came together over the past few weeks after Jay-Z was shown the film, directed by Ridley Scott, in which Denzel Washington portrays Frank Lucas, a early 1970s Harlem heroin kingpin.
Following the underwhelming critical and commercial reception for his “Kingdom Come” CD late last year — and as Jay-Z grapples with whether to stay on in his post at Def Jam — the tie-in to a major motion picture gives him a chance to rebound strong and extend his reach to a wider audience.
At the same time, it could help Universal Pictures excite younger moviegoers, whom it will need to make money on a costly film with a troubled history. Though it’s not uncommon for films to be released alongside “inspired by” albums, it is rare for them to be recorded by a single artist, let alone by a major star who had no role in the movie.
In an hourlong telephone interview, Jay-Z, 37, who has spoken of spending his early years in Brooklyn both rapping and drug dealing, said that the movie had tremendous resonance for him and had sparked a burst of creative activity that even he found surprising. He has already recorded nine tracks, almost every one prompted by a specific scene.
“It was like I was watching the film, and putting it on pause, and giving a back story to the story,” he said.
The movie, set for a Nov. 2 release, depicts the Lucas character as an underworld Horatio Alger and an innovator who, despite keeping a low public profile, rose to such power that he was able to defy the Mafia bosses who had traditionally dominated the New York drug trade before being brought down by a special narcotics task force. (Its leader is played by Russell Crowe.) Jay-Z said he thought his fans would be struck by the image of a black man reaching such heights of success, even on the wrong side of the law, much like such ruthlessly efficient Al Pacino antiheroes as Tony Montana and Michael Corleone.
“It immediately clicked with me,” said Jay-Z, who has made p*****ing references to gangster movies in previous recordings but has never delved so deeply into the genre. “Like ‘Scarface,’ or any one of those films, you take the good out of it, and you can see it as an inspiring film.”
A $100 million gritty period piece that largely takes place before the birth of hip-hop or many of its fans, “American Gangster” marks a sizable gamble for Universal, which fired one director, Antoine Fuqua, and scrapped the project at a cost of $30 million before restarting it with Mr. Scott in charge and with Mr. Crowe in place of Benicio del Toro. (Though they share a name, Universal Pictures and Universal Music Group, the parent of Def Jam, are no longer corporate brethren.)
Mr. Scott said he cast the rappers T. I., RZA and Common in supporting roles, hoping to appeal to a younger audience. But Brian Grazer, the film’s producer, said that Mr. Washington also pressed him more than a year ago to consider asking Jay-Z to do the film’s soundtrack.
“I just didn’t think there’d be enough for Jay-Z to do,” Mr. Grazer said, explaining that he resisted because he and Mr. Scott felt the movie required an authentic 1970s feel.
Instead Jay-Z offered to make his own album and release it in conjunction with the movie; Def Jam is also releasing the film’s official soundtrack, which features songs by Bobby Womack, the Staple Singers and Sam & Dave. Jay-Z plans to attend the film’s premiere but any cross-promotion deals have not been completed, executives said. The movie’s trailer already includes an older Jay-Z song, “Heart of the City.”
Mr. Grazer, who visited Jay-Z in the studio last week and heard seven of the new songs, said he was impressed by how the movie had “ignited all these memories of his childhood and how he grew up and the experiences he had, and the moral crossroads he had constantly in his life that were so parallel to Frank Lucas’s.”
Though Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, said he’d never heard of Mr. Lucas while growing up in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, he still glimpsed much of himself in Mr. Washington’s portrayal: “The way he carried himself. The way he went about things. The way he wasn’t loud, but he was very strong.”
Echoing the “stop snitchin’ ” campaign among some hip-hop fans and artists, however, Jay-Z hastened to dissociate himself from Mr. Lucas’s decision to cooperate with the authorities to get a more lenient sentence.
“Me, I believe you choose your path and you walk your path, and whatever happens you got to accept it,” Jay-Z said.
In “No Hook,” a song on the new album, he says:
Please don’t compare me to other rappers. Compare me to trappers.
I’m more Frank Lucas than Ludacris. And Lude is my dude, I ain’t trying to dis.
Just like Frank Lucas is cool, but I ain’t tryin’ to snitch.
I’m-a follow the rules, no matter how much time I’m-a get.
I’m-a live and die with the decisions that I’m-a pick.
Jay-Z’s new album is certain to punctuate what had been a year of relatively slow sales for Def Jam until the huge chart debut this week of Kanye West’s CD “Graduation.” Jay-Z is said to be mulling whether to extend his three-year employment contract, return to recording and touring full time or explore other options. In the interview he deflected questions about his future. “I would love to work it out” and stay at Def Jam, he said, but he added that he was wavering and would do some “soul-searching” after finishing the album.
His decision to record “American Gangster” is a surprise, given that his last album was released less than a year ago. “Kingdom Come” sold about 1.5 million copies, his lowest figure for a full studio album since 1997. And its elaborate marketing campaign, including alliances with Budweiser and ESPN, prompted some suggestions that Jay-Z’s branching-out into other business endeavors, and taste for the jet-setting life, had begun to undermine his street credibility.
He made no apologies for his transformation into a global brand. “Jay doesn’t live in Brooklyn any more,” he said. Rather, he ventured that “Kingdom Come” was a little too “sophisticated” for some listeners. “American Gangster,” he said, would be a return to a tougher, more unflinching view of street life.
“Watching that film, it brought back all these memories,” he said. “It took me back to those emotions.”
Illustrating his point, he launched again into “No Hook”: “ ‘Poor me, Dad was gone, finally got my Dad back, liver bad, he wouldn’t live long, it *****ed my Dad back.’ ”
He added that the song “takes you through this journey — his journey, my journey — so many people’s journey that come from the areas that we come from.”
Throughout the interview Jay-Z sounded almost jubilant talking about his creative process, and he repeatedly interrupted himself to try out his latest rhymes:
“ ‘Mindstate of a gangster from the 40’s, meet business mind of Motown’s Berry Gordy,’ ” he rapped from “Pray,” another new song.
“How crazy is that?” he said giddily.
And, in another rap:
This is the genesis of a nemesis
Mother America’s not witnessed since
the Harlem Renaissance
birthed black businesses.
“I’m not even joking with you,” he said, laughing. “It’s out-of-body experiences at this point.”
Taken from NY time article. The album is not based on the movie. Jay used it motivation to talk about 80’s dope game. American Gangster is about Herione in the 70’s. Again Jay “ONLY USED THE MOVIE AS MOTIVATION TO SPIT ABOUT 80′S AGAIN AND THE MOVIE IS USING JAY Z TO HELP SELL THE MOVIE TO YOUNGER CROWD”.
This song takes you back to the 80’s and highlights the main issues of that time. Listen to the lyrics everything is not about hooks and one liners. Take rap to the basics to teach these bumbs how to rap.
Bottom this is hip hop used to make money. This movie is gonna be big and hov is promoting it.
Me no likey. And the whole “Jay-Z and Nas are coming out on the same day” mess is lame. They will never pull the energy that Kanye and 50 did coming out on the same day. Jay and Nas are the senior citizens of rap and they need to act accordingly.
the riaa certifcations are not based on sales. they are based on product shipped and sales projections. mad albums fall short of the projections but the heads of record labels can still certify the albums. kingdom come was certified double platinum when it had only sold 1.35 mil copies. it’s since topped out at 1.6 mil with no reasonable hope to ever reaching 2 mil.
yall sooo stupid. Kingdom Come was the best selling hiphop album of 2006. TI was very close. Luda & Game struggled to hit plat. When all the other fools you’re hyping are about to release their tenth albums tell me how much they’re selling.
Still, Jay has really fallen as far as singles are concerned. You need a really hot bumping single since the music biz is all about great 1st week sales and the occasional bump with each new single off your album. His singles lately have sucked, his flow is sounding a little lazy, but he’s still negotiating success/street cred better than a lot of other rappers
I usually like Jay-Z…This song is wack!…Beat is really not that hot (compare it to anything),pharrell needs to stop singing and making beats because that is the worst I have ever heard from him.
I’d rather he rapped about boats, beiotches, and gucci sneaks. Crack guns and the dope game is what everyone else is rapping about= the topic is beyond played out. He needs to hook up with heatmakers, cool&dre, even kanye worst beat is hotter than this!
I want to know both of their opions on the Jena 6 issue. I want to know why I did not see to many if any so called hip-hop artist at that rally yesterday.
Don’t they claim to speak for the people. I think that they all deserve the cold shoulder. You mean to tell me that David Bowie saw the significance of donating money to the lawyers. But none of these YOUNG BLACK MEN can see the significance in making sure that these young men have adequate legal counsel.
I say all of you get over yourself. There are more important things in the world than you.
I usually like Jay-Z…However, this song is wack!…The beat is really not that hot (compare it to anything),and pharrell needs to stop singing and making beats because that is the worst I have ever heard from him.
I’d rather he rapped about boats, beiotches, and gucci sneaks. Crack, guns and the dope game is what everyone else is rapping about= the topic is beyond played out. He needs to hook up with heatmakers, cool&dre, TI’s people… even kanye’s worst beat is hotter than this!
That’s good spin but not true. Other then one article on the net there is nothing to support the number you are quoting. Fact is the album shipped a million units the first week and sold 680,000 and had over a million sold in less then a month. By the middle of January Sound Scan had the album at 1.4 so going by your numbers it would have had to stopped selling all together.
I kinda like it. This particular song sounds like something you would hear out of the south from an old school cat like Scarface or Bun B. Isn’t Jay-Z considered “old school”? I think he’s making music for the grown folk and I can dig it, lol.
I like this song for the same reason I like most of 50’s album…The ***** is taking it back to BEFORE he was rich, before he had the hottest chick in the game and spitting that street ***** that made him who he is in the first place…And a lot of rappers rap about guns crack and ho’s because it’s a reality for so many of us blacks that come up in inner cities…It’s not about what you speak on in your music, it’s about being honest and how you deliver it…
50 also took it back to his “pre” 50 cent days…He was even calling himself Curtis and Boo boo on it…Def feeling the direction hip hop is going in right now…
You’re right. I was suprised when I learned this a few year ago about record companies using CD’s shipped rather than sold. It’s a marketing ploy to build up the sells.
Shipped = sold because the record companies are counting the stores that carry the CDs as customers that bought the CD. The stores buy all of these CDs “in anti*****tion” of sales. But when the CD doesn’t sell, all of a sudden, you see prices start dropping. That’s why CDs are always on sale during the first week of release…
Let That Man Live! He’s bringing the 80′S back…got no problem with that cause thats where i was made at!! All the haters need to go play somewhere…more than likely you are late for recess;)
LYCIC WISE THIS SONG IS PURRRRRRRRREEE TRASHHHHHHHH,AND HE CALLED HIS GIRL A CREOLE SKEE-O THATS THE ONLY GOOD AND TRUE PART OF THE WHOLE THING THAT DRUG GAME RAP IS CORNY ALREADY, JEEZT,TI,WAYNE.JIMMY. ETC ARE DOING IT ALREADY SIT THE HELL DOWN CAMEL ITS OVER.MIDLIFE CRISIS HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
Hova and the rest of hiphop is just pure garbage now and what these semi literate buffoons are inflicting on the community is no less a crime than what happened to the jena 6
Half the people commenting on this track aint even hip hop fans( and they know it). They just looking for something to shake their *****es to( like most *****es). Sorry *****es…There are no instructions on how to do a new dance move or a base drop that you can clap your *****es to…Straight beats and rhymes…If you can’t respect straight beats and rhymes YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF HIP HOP. In fact, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH HIP HOP!
Special shout out to the dumb ***** “HOLLA” who said Jeezy,TI, Wayne and Jimmy are already doing drug rap like Jay wasn’t doing it before them *****s even thought about rapping…This is the ***** Jay came in the game spitting and he’s still a whole lot better at it then everybody you named. You win the ‘Dumb ***** of the Day’ award. Congrats!
The stores can return the CDs they don’t sell, just like books and the artist get paid on sold not shipped. That’s why it’s so hard for independent artists. Store don’t want to get stuck stuff they can’t sell.
coop, i’d like to go back and forth with you all day but the fact that even your wrong numbers are wrong(you got 2.5 mil out of a double plat certification. my only guess is that you counted the double plat and gold certification and added them together?) cancels this debate out. where are you grabbing these numbers?
i’d urge you all who are interested to check out the blog “listen up” by usa today. they do a monthly check on sales versus certification using nothing but cold hard facts, not pulled out of the air numbers.
in fact, this very question was posed to the writer in february. here’s his response:
This week’s sales question comes from Pinkalicious, who writes:
“Can you break down the double platinum certification versus sales of Jay-Z’s Kingdom Come? It seems like that album stalled in sales a long time ago. There’s no way it’s even close to 2 million sold. Thanks! I love this list!”
Thanks for that — I find it fun to compare certifications and actual sales when possible, and I’m glad some of you enjoy it too. Statistics and a chance to be snarky — unbeatable combination.
Anyway, as to the question itself, yes, there is a definite discrepancy here. The album is certified double platinum, but has sold 1.35 million to date. But then, Jay-Z runs the label, so would you be the person to tell him he was certifying his album too soon?
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that post is dated feb 23rd.
mtv: Although Kingdom Come was heavily promoted, including marketing deals with the NBA and Budweiser, among others, the much-hyped project topped off at 1.6 million units sold — sales figures Jay hadn’t seen since the earlier phases of his career.
billboard: Jay-Z’s album follows quickly on the heels of last year’s “Kingdom Come,” his much-touted “comeback” project. It has sold about 1.5 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
i’m being nice using the highest number since you can never tell who’s rounding numbers up or down. but i guess soundscan is wrong too, huh?
to quote jay-z: men lie. women lie. numbers don’t.
Why would anyone take any advice about hiphop from a bunch of gossipy broads, their definition of good rap is how cute the rapper is and does he make them shake their *****es. I am glad he is making street records now for the everyday cat, women can go listen to some Terribel Pain and A Korny if they want to dance
Yo who is holla! lol dude do you even know what this song is going back too? pretty much the track is basically before TI,Jeezy and wayne! Lol and wayne dont even talk that heavy dope dealing ***** and when he does he’s only frontin. Everybody knows Jay was heavy in that back then.His dope money got him his legal money. To me holla you sound like a true hater! lol
And when the movie come out you punks are gonna ***** ride! HOV is that dude period wit the 80’s flow
GOAT
So what if you flip a couple words I could triple at them birds,
open your mind you see the circus in the sky.
I’m Ringling brothers Barnum Bailey with the pies,
no matter how you slice it I’m your mother *****ing guy
Just like a b-boy with 360 waves (hairstyle)
I do the same with the pot, still come back beige.
Whether writers are par, whether the powder with yal (??)
whip it around, it still comes back hard.
So easily do I W-H-I-P,
my repitition with kilos will bring you kilo digits.
I got kreole C-O from my *****s who slipped, became prisoners, trees taped to the visitors.
You already know what the business is
Unnecessary commissary, boy we live this *****.
Wanna bring the 80s back, that’s okay with me, that’s where they made me at.
Except I don’t write on the wall,
I write my name in the history books, hustling in the hall
Nah, I don’t spin on my head I spin work in the pots so I can spend my bread
Chorus:
And I’m getting it I’m getting it
I aint talking about it, I’m living it
I’m getting it, straight getting it
Get get get get get get get it boy
Pharrell sings…
Get it boy
Eighty 7 state of mind that I’m in,
In my prime, so for that time, I’m Rakim
If it wasn’t for those crimes that I’m in
But I wouldn’t be the guy that rhymed in the airs (nikes) that I’m in
Don’t pay no profit, P (Pharrell) I’ll repeat it to show you where the pot is
Cherry (BMW) M3s with the top back
Read and green Gs are on my hat
North beach leathers, matching Gucci sweater,
Gucci sneaks on to keep my outfit together
Whatever, hundred for the diamond chain
Can’t you tell that I came from the dope game
Blame Reagan for making me into a monster
Blame Oliver north and Iran-Contra
I ran contraband that they sponsored
Before this rhyming stuff we was in concert
Chorus
Push, money over broads you got it, Bush
Chef, guess what I cooked
We baked a lot of bread,
and kept it off the books (financial reports, lol)
Rockstars, look, way before the bars my picture was getting took
Feds, they like wack rappers. Try as they may they couldn’t get me on the hook
D.A. wanna indite me, cuz fish scales in my veins like a pisces
The pirecs pack (??) rolled up my sleeve,
turn one into two like a Siamese twin when it end
and I’m saying as a man I’ll die in Armani, last of a dying breed
So let the champagne pop, I partied for a while now I’m back to the Block.
Everything that Jay does is not HOT! You sound stupid calling her out…she is speaking the TRUTH
This ain’t about taking it back, or keeping it real to the streets… it should be about growth as an artist, i.e. talk about something else. She is right…every artist wants to be THE Cocaine Cowboy (they really ain’t)
THIS song is a DISAPPOINTMENT to most fans (and the ones like me who like most/not all! of his songs. Before you get on age, I’m 31 and I’ve been listening,spinning and supporting hiphop for 20+ years. As far as the lyrics, he starts off slow (wack to me)… but The 2nd half of the song has lyrics (fire if you listen)
The problem is the total package his DELIVERY is not that hot, the beat is just above average (not even good), and pharrel can’t sing …the hook doesn’t even go with the song!
Boring Delivery+Bad singing/hook+ an average beat (typical dance)= Disappointment
And name a track thats hotter then that that just came out??? please name one track thats harder then this lol! this ***** will bump trust me thats why they’re rich and *****s like you are stuck behind a computer hatin! lol
not feeling it.its too old school soundinfg.sounds like something the clipse will do.i am ghiowever glad that his voice is back and all those whisper rhyujkmes are over with
Ok I’ll do it like this all the songs you listed are not on the level of this song. Plus there old and Hell Rell cant even come up with two hot songs let alone one. Young Joc???? come on! lol this is rap education right here lol old school. Check out the gear he spit he had on! See you southern *****s wasnt rockin that back then you were always behind the times! lol ya’ll were on that Whoodini One love ***** with them tight ***** pants and lofers wit no socks. LOL LOL let me go find a pic too!
I like Jay Z a lot I have 6 of his CDs, so I am no hater. But this song is whack! His flow is super lazy and I don’t even like the production. Pharell sounds a hot mess maybe they should’ve just put EnVogue in the booth. This is another marketing thing like the black album was (I’m retiring) and like Kingdom Come was ( I’m back). Now he is riding the wave of what is obviously gonna be another Denzel cl*****ic.
Come on rachel stop wit the “I like jay z i got all his albums but i dont like this song” lol its for a movie its set to pain pictures for the movie. The director tapped hov for the sound track. That track is bumpin
All I’m going to say i like blue magic grease.Man i hope this is not the prelude to what his album is going to sound like.Because if so the groupies are going to love it.Didn’t he retire for the 3 rd time
He *****in 23 year old latin superstar Beyonce Lopez.
He has $500,000,000 in the bank.
Crackers love him
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and he still makes satanic music glorifying drugs and violence to market to young black kids. Damn. As he said on the Black Album,” I’m living proof that crime do pay.” No wonder the only protest you saw him at was for the Rockefeller Drug Laws. Can’t be too harsh on sentencing dope boys!
the song is hot the beat is fire the flow priceless give it a chance listen to it before you judge it yall just hating I do want to see that man do his numbers whats wrong wit hov being the best we need to support a man that comes from the hood and make it in life instead of shooting him down cause hes still in the game the game needs him after while yall goin to be saying that ***** about lil wayne
The blog that referenced does not even give a source for the number. As far how I came up with my number no I did not add the certifications together because if I had added the gold, platinum and 2x platinum able together that would have been 3.5 since the number that I gave 2.5 that is in no way possible but I will say this you made it sound good. My numbers came from soundscan and RIAA. The last Soundscan I saw for it was before the summer and that was 2.3 so I estimated that it was around 2.5 by now.
The blog that you referenced does not even give a source for the number. As far how I came up with my number no I did not add the certifications together because if I had added the gold, platinum and 2x platinum album together that would have been 3.5 since the number that I gave which is 2.5 is not that total but I will say this you made it sound good. My numbers came from soundscan and RIAA. The last Soundscan I saw for it was before the summer and that was 2.3 so I estimated that it was around 2.5 by now.
***** you,***** friday you obviously like to suck on camel ***** i know that he started rapping bout drugs when he first came out cause thats all he knew ***** blower that was 10 years ago i would think he wouldve moved past that by now .oh yeah dont forget to floss and get the camel hair u apparently still have left in your mouth *****.
did hov ever lie to his fans on any song have he ever and i quote have he ever came wit some bull***** since he started he gave nothing but that pif yall need to some smoke a L and sit back close yall eyes and listen then hit me back holla
You are too funny the first article you used you gave a date of January or Febuary (07) had his sales at 1.3 come on stop the hate you want everyone believe that his album sales basically stopped. In Forbes it is stated that Kingdom Come sold 2 million albums and they note one of the places the info came from was soundscan not RIAA. So are you say that Forbes has a reason to lie about the info it received from soundscan?
People need to make up their mind. When he went with a more mature introspective concept on Kingdome Come people hated on it, now that he’s more on the original Reasonable Doubt(cl*****ic) type concept people are hating. Jay should just do him and if he’s smart he’ll stick to the more inspired producers like Just Blaze, Ninth Wonder, Kanye, DJ Premier that he works well with and not fancy dressed up bull***** from the neptunes.
Rap music, or music in general is calling for more creative forms of self expression. It’s calling for a new awareness from the artists. Music should be more then just something we hear, it should carry healing and love for the soul. It is a God given talent with a purpose for healing. We are being misdirected by focusing on what we gain from making music, more then what we can give through it…
Rap music, or music in general is calling for more creative forms of self expression. It’s calling for a new awareness from the artists. Music should be more then just something we hear, it should carry healing and love for the soul. It is a God given talent with a purpose for healing. We are being misdirected by focusing on what we gain from making music, more then what we can give through it…
your bugging…..its bangin.
FIRST!!!!!
Jay-Z looks like a swoll ***** Professor Klump in this picture!! LOL
Tell Jay sit his old ***** down! One of the worst song I’ve ever heard plus Pharell is singing on the hook.
Don’t trip… it’s kinda gangsta
We?? Who is “we”?
I agree with lalyanyc22. It’s bangin.
The song suck…and not in a good, where did you learn that at way. Hating it would be a vacation. WTFU with J? I guess 40’s the new 60, huh?
jay z is that nikka!!! he makes music for adults that’s all can we adults enjoy hip hop too??? if you can’t relate go pick up some of that pure street crack (packaged ignorance) it’s plenty out there!! you got fiddy- freaky zeaky – hell rell… let us mature ones enjoy some too
the song sucks
i can see a flop like “kingdom come“ oops i meant to say kingdom done…lmao
bossip pls change the comments box or else i`m going to concrete loop forever
Damn J!! stop it all ready.. the micheal jordan of rap??? ya that’s right..I guess it the micheal jordan when he was playing for the bullets.
Please stop now..your damaging your rep as an artist for real..your not hungry anymore
NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont like this new 2pac song
yall are crazy – is anyone telling common to stop?? why can’t he express himself???
go read a book haters!
Thar, she blows.
Pharrell is f-in sexy though.
THIS SONG IS SEXY! I AM 30 YRS OLD AND I AM FEELING IT, MAYBE THE KIDS CANNOT RELATE.
Song is hard…That hard ***** aint made for these groupie gossipy ***** women…This is the wrong site to ask for opinions on hip hop…If you want an insightful critic of his tie, then you ask the *****es up here…Leave the hip hop questions for true hip hop heads…
I am 55 years old and i cant relate to this song!!!
@***** Deep:
When did Michael Jordan play for the bullets? LMAO!!!! You *****s make fools of yourselves constantly…
kingdom come did 600,000 first week @sean
lmao. i love when people come with the ‘mature’ excuse when someone isnt feeling jay’s *****. i ride with common all day. that’s music for the mature crowd. this ***** is weak! sorry!
I am 73 years old and i cant relate to this song!!!
ain much *****s doing that so how could it be a flop
I am a retired school teacher and I cant relate to this song!!!
big l
kingdom come did 600,000 first week @sean
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and it topped out at 1.6 mil. disappointing for jay-z since he’s supposed to be a god to these groupies.
I am one of the men who marched in Alabama, along with Dr. King in 1955 and I cant relate to this song!!!
Im sorry…I enjoy “adult” music and was feeling Kingdom COme very tough…matter fact been blasting it lately. But this joint cant do it! Hopefully this doesnt reflect the album
jay put the mic DOWN, and im disappointed as of late with my skateboard p’s production
This song is pure garbage. The lyrics, the hook, J, P… any way you wanna pull it. Kingdom Come might have sold 600,000 the first week, but to date it’s at 1.5mill. They said the worst selling album since his 1997 release. Kingdom Come was look I’m older and I’ve made a lot of money…This is wack. There is nothing mature about this song. 80’s is where they made him…. ummmmm
Jay Z making money> Jay Z rapping
did yall know mediatakeout was run by a black guy?
i mean- bossip yall are running shyt right now but imma gwan’ over and check them out.
pro black.
lol.
fishbowl cl*****ic this weekend! NSU halla!
LMOA @ ***** BAG BOY!!!!! You are so funny! Unfortunately, I cant listen to this at my desk. But I can almost bet my lunch money that it sucks. What is up with him lately? Why cant he just sit it down already? His “thirstiness” is obviously rubbing off on Bey, cause she cant sit it down neither!
It’s ok….
Bossip can u relax on the huge font. I’d like to see more than two words when I read. It’s a little annoying…back it up.
i know J was glad to the the American Gangsta CD, so he can still talk about the same BS when he first came out. the song suck. people think just b/c its J its good. only a immature person would keep rappin about being gangsta, he has shown now advancement in his music or his life.
im 30yrs and i be damned if im going to be running around here talkin about being gansta and selling drugs, im to old for that shyt. thats what IGNORANT people do. GROW DA F*** UP, 30 is not the new 20 its just an excuse to keep doing what u did in your 20s.
garbage.. ppl need 2 keep their promises stay retired and pharell is mighty struggling he needs 2 jus stick 2 production… this is *****
just b/c you sell a certain amount of CDs doesnt mean its good. its called GROUPIES, which seems to be more MEN groupies the Women when it comes to J.
GARBAGE…lazy flow with lazy beat with lazy hook. Sounds like some guys in a garage…
booo!
THIS SONG IS GOOD, I BET IT’LL GROW ON YALL…
Please tell that ***** to sit down.. please!! he’s scarring my kids
this song was garbage, this camel is having a midlife crisis, he doesn’t know when to stop,and he called his girl a creole skee-o wow, he has 10 albums already talkin about this i did n’t know he still was pushing while at the executive desk,what a cornball. seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaa.
This is nice they just decided to mix the beat and vocals differently.
Also why do people hate on Kingdom Come and it is the blueprint for Kanye’s Graduation. Listen to one and then the other they both have the same vibe.
yo dont get me wrong im not a fan of the song but i give the ***** the respect he deserves because for the past two years i could count the *****s on my one hand in the rap game who went plat and hes one of them. You cant expect the song to relate to you when it suppose to be relating to a movie.
This song is hard. Gangsta Jay may have returned to his cociane flow and rhymes. It may not be for everyone but the streets will love what he has to say. This song in terms of rhymes is hard and something he has not done in a while.
I’m 87 years old I a love this song.
big l
how is the rap flow relate to an the 70s era drug game. which J was not a part of.
how is the rap flow relate to an the 70s era drug game. which J was not a part of.
J wasnt part of that ERA the movie is about so how can this song relate.
i cant believe this is the best beat Pharrel had for jay. not feelin it.
I will probably like this song after they run it in the whole for the next week on the radio but………..I wish he would retire and stay retired. he can keep his credibility if he continues to make money and do cameos on other peoples *****. let us miss him or something.
Just because Jay is older he cant ryhme about drugs anymore? Rap is entertainment so that like telling a action star he cant do action movies anymore. Also on the other hand Jay out of all the “drug rappers” has talked about so many other things why not let him slide if decides to talk about drugs again. If you were not a fan of Jay z before Vol II you probably wont feel this song because I dont think he trying to hit that crowd.
His article from the NY times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/arts/music/20jayz.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1190289160-sB/o18N54mw80jhdTnRR6w&oref=slogin
stan-b-gone
I don;t know where you are getting those numbers from but Kingdom Come sold 2.5 million copies check the official numbers. http://www.riaa.com/
This is just 80’s *****e rap for those that dont know. He just using the movie to motivate himself to spit that 80’s *****e ryhmes and finsih talking about what he did or saw during that period which he was spitting in reasonable doubt or Vol one.
@no-go
i guess i miss the part when rapper swore to tell the truth and nothing bout the truth lol yall *****s be tripping im sure ti or none of them other guys in the movie was around either. *****s can rap on what ever they feel like weather or not the been through it or not it entertains me and alot of other people
Like I said, You can’t get a good critic on street hip hop from a bunch of gossipy *****es on a blog…Please stick to asking these doofy *****es”which one would they hit” cause that’s the only question they ever be asked in the first place…
“If you don’t like it then look in the mirror,
Most likely you don’t live it so you don’t get it” -JayZ.
Lame
The same way Chappelle dropped the mic and said “I’m out” at the end of his show is what this clown should’ve done with his last cd. This almost compels me to go get my box and sit on the corner of 125th & Lenox blasting Avril Lavigne. Hova is ova.
Yall need to read the article the NY time article
Black Friday
Like I said, You can’t get a good critic on street hip hop from a bunch of gossipy *****es on a blog…Please stick to asking these doofy *****es”which one would they hit” cause that’s the only question they ever be asked in the first place…
“If you don’t like it then look in the mirror,
Most likely you don’t live it so you don’t get it” -JayZ.
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Co sign. You said it best and the Jay rhyme make it even better and clearer.
Yea these younger kids 24 and down can’t relate.. They don’t know anything about hip hop except songs that have no meaning such as pop lock and drop it. Stuff like that. Now this is not the greatest of songs from J but it’s def a new trend setter instead of having all this lip gloss stuff out here.
First of all the geeks at Bossip talk sh** about everybody, And check it IT’S Bossip. Do you really think the people there have any type of music sense? This song is hard if you retards listen to the song and see the concept of it this song is crazy! Hov is taking it back and taking it away from this solja boy “NO I MEAN YOUUUUU” ***** most of the bloggers on here love. And then when you listen to what he’s saying and understand that its painting a image of the 80’s drug game and letting you know how Jay got to where he is now! You have to respect it this song is crazy and its gonna bump. Hova is ova lol please Hov is that dude expand your mind and stop looking for the next ring tone if your a real hip hop head you know this song is fire period point blank. If you like that bull ***** commercial ***** then your gonna look for the next gimmick. Who else would they tag to do the sound track for this movie??? Im gettin ittt Im gettin it Im getttin a gettin a gettin ittt!!! lol he crushed it sorry
First of all the geeks at Bossip talk sh** about everybody, And check it IT’S Bossip. Do you really think the people there have any type of music sense? This song is hard if you retards listen to the song and see the concept of it this song is crazy! Hov is taking it back and taking it away from this solja boy “NO I MEAN YOUUUUU” ***** most of the bloggers on here love. And then when you listen to what he’s saying and understand that its painting a image of the 80’s drug game and letting you know how Jay got to where he is now! You have to respect it this song is crazy and its gonna bump. Hova is ova lol please Hov is that dude expand your mind and stop looking for the next ring tone if your a real hip hop head you know this song is fire period point blank. If you like that bull ***** commercial ***** then your gonna look for the next gimmick. Who else would they tag to do the sound track for this movie??? Im gettin ittt Im gettin it Im getttin a gettin a gettin ittt!!! lol he crushed it sorry
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Co sign.
And another thing about the track its for the new movie American Gangsta. The whole movie was based in the 80’s. You super old heads are still bumpin that Earth Wind & Fire.
You common heads finally got common into hip hop discussions but sorry he’s not as creative as jay. This song takes you back to the 80’s and highlights the main issues of that time. Listen to the lyrics everything is not about hooks and one liners. Take rap to the basics to teach these bumbs how to rap.
Bottom this is hip hop used to make money. This movie is gonna be big and hov is promoting it.
Haters
big l
yeah i know artist entertain, but at the sametime they swear by there IMAGE that who they are. If its just that then y are so many artist act like that HARD then when some real shyt happens they b*tch up.
the movie is from the 70s not the 80s
Oh and one more thing about Bossip, they always hate on Jay I forgot. Lol these motha *****as have been hatin on him ever since i discovered this. He killed it
For the people to lazy to click.
LOS ANGELES, Sept. 19 — Jay-Z, the rap superstar and president of Def Jam Records, has quietly returned to the studio to record an album of new songs inspired by the forthcoming movie “American Gangster,” his first “concept” album and second CD in less than a year.
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The Trailer for ‘American Gangster,’ featuring music by Jay-Z
The album, which his label plans to release in early November, came together over the past few weeks after Jay-Z was shown the film, directed by Ridley Scott, in which Denzel Washington portrays Frank Lucas, a early 1970s Harlem heroin kingpin.
Following the underwhelming critical and commercial reception for his “Kingdom Come” CD late last year — and as Jay-Z grapples with whether to stay on in his post at Def Jam — the tie-in to a major motion picture gives him a chance to rebound strong and extend his reach to a wider audience.
At the same time, it could help Universal Pictures excite younger moviegoers, whom it will need to make money on a costly film with a troubled history. Though it’s not uncommon for films to be released alongside “inspired by” albums, it is rare for them to be recorded by a single artist, let alone by a major star who had no role in the movie.
In an hourlong telephone interview, Jay-Z, 37, who has spoken of spending his early years in Brooklyn both rapping and drug dealing, said that the movie had tremendous resonance for him and had sparked a burst of creative activity that even he found surprising. He has already recorded nine tracks, almost every one prompted by a specific scene.
“It was like I was watching the film, and putting it on pause, and giving a back story to the story,” he said.
The movie, set for a Nov. 2 release, depicts the Lucas character as an underworld Horatio Alger and an innovator who, despite keeping a low public profile, rose to such power that he was able to defy the Mafia bosses who had traditionally dominated the New York drug trade before being brought down by a special narcotics task force. (Its leader is played by Russell Crowe.) Jay-Z said he thought his fans would be struck by the image of a black man reaching such heights of success, even on the wrong side of the law, much like such ruthlessly efficient Al Pacino antiheroes as Tony Montana and Michael Corleone.
“It immediately clicked with me,” said Jay-Z, who has made p*****ing references to gangster movies in previous recordings but has never delved so deeply into the genre. “Like ‘Scarface,’ or any one of those films, you take the good out of it, and you can see it as an inspiring film.”
A $100 million gritty period piece that largely takes place before the birth of hip-hop or many of its fans, “American Gangster” marks a sizable gamble for Universal, which fired one director, Antoine Fuqua, and scrapped the project at a cost of $30 million before restarting it with Mr. Scott in charge and with Mr. Crowe in place of Benicio del Toro. (Though they share a name, Universal Pictures and Universal Music Group, the parent of Def Jam, are no longer corporate brethren.)
Mr. Scott said he cast the rappers T. I., RZA and Common in supporting roles, hoping to appeal to a younger audience. But Brian Grazer, the film’s producer, said that Mr. Washington also pressed him more than a year ago to consider asking Jay-Z to do the film’s soundtrack.
“I just didn’t think there’d be enough for Jay-Z to do,” Mr. Grazer said, explaining that he resisted because he and Mr. Scott felt the movie required an authentic 1970s feel.
Instead Jay-Z offered to make his own album and release it in conjunction with the movie; Def Jam is also releasing the film’s official soundtrack, which features songs by Bobby Womack, the Staple Singers and Sam & Dave. Jay-Z plans to attend the film’s premiere but any cross-promotion deals have not been completed, executives said. The movie’s trailer already includes an older Jay-Z song, “Heart of the City.”
Mr. Grazer, who visited Jay-Z in the studio last week and heard seven of the new songs, said he was impressed by how the movie had “ignited all these memories of his childhood and how he grew up and the experiences he had, and the moral crossroads he had constantly in his life that were so parallel to Frank Lucas’s.”
Though Jay-Z, whose real name is Shawn Carter, said he’d never heard of Mr. Lucas while growing up in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, he still glimpsed much of himself in Mr. Washington’s portrayal: “The way he carried himself. The way he went about things. The way he wasn’t loud, but he was very strong.”
Echoing the “stop snitchin’ ” campaign among some hip-hop fans and artists, however, Jay-Z hastened to dissociate himself from Mr. Lucas’s decision to cooperate with the authorities to get a more lenient sentence.
“Me, I believe you choose your path and you walk your path, and whatever happens you got to accept it,” Jay-Z said.
In “No Hook,” a song on the new album, he says:
Please don’t compare me to other rappers. Compare me to trappers.
I’m more Frank Lucas than Ludacris. And Lude is my dude, I ain’t trying to dis.
Just like Frank Lucas is cool, but I ain’t tryin’ to snitch.
I’m-a follow the rules, no matter how much time I’m-a get.
I’m-a live and die with the decisions that I’m-a pick.
Jay-Z’s new album is certain to punctuate what had been a year of relatively slow sales for Def Jam until the huge chart debut this week of Kanye West’s CD “Graduation.” Jay-Z is said to be mulling whether to extend his three-year employment contract, return to recording and touring full time or explore other options. In the interview he deflected questions about his future. “I would love to work it out” and stay at Def Jam, he said, but he added that he was wavering and would do some “soul-searching” after finishing the album.
His decision to record “American Gangster” is a surprise, given that his last album was released less than a year ago. “Kingdom Come” sold about 1.5 million copies, his lowest figure for a full studio album since 1997. And its elaborate marketing campaign, including alliances with Budweiser and ESPN, prompted some suggestions that Jay-Z’s branching-out into other business endeavors, and taste for the jet-setting life, had begun to undermine his street credibility.
He made no apologies for his transformation into a global brand. “Jay doesn’t live in Brooklyn any more,” he said. Rather, he ventured that “Kingdom Come” was a little too “sophisticated” for some listeners. “American Gangster,” he said, would be a return to a tougher, more unflinching view of street life.
“Watching that film, it brought back all these memories,” he said. “It took me back to those emotions.”
Illustrating his point, he launched again into “No Hook”: “ ‘Poor me, Dad was gone, finally got my Dad back, liver bad, he wouldn’t live long, it *****ed my Dad back.’ ”
He added that the song “takes you through this journey — his journey, my journey — so many people’s journey that come from the areas that we come from.”
Throughout the interview Jay-Z sounded almost jubilant talking about his creative process, and he repeatedly interrupted himself to try out his latest rhymes:
“ ‘Mindstate of a gangster from the 40’s, meet business mind of Motown’s Berry Gordy,’ ” he rapped from “Pray,” another new song.
“How crazy is that?” he said giddily.
And, in another rap:
This is the genesis of a nemesis
Mother America’s not witnessed since
the Harlem Renaissance
birthed black businesses.
“I’m not even joking with you,” he said, laughing. “It’s out-of-body experiences at this point.”
Taken from NY time article. The album is not based on the movie. Jay used it motivation to talk about 80’s dope game. American Gangster is about Herione in the 70’s. Again Jay “ONLY USED THE MOVIE AS MOTIVATION TO SPIT ABOUT 80′S AGAIN AND THE MOVIE IS USING JAY Z TO HELP SELL THE MOVIE TO YOUNGER CROWD”.
Velle
This song takes you back to the 80’s and highlights the main issues of that time. Listen to the lyrics everything is not about hooks and one liners. Take rap to the basics to teach these bumbs how to rap.
Bottom this is hip hop used to make money. This movie is gonna be big and hov is promoting it.
Haters
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CO SIGN
its aight
boo…. i’m not feeling it.
Me no likey. And the whole “Jay-Z and Nas are coming out on the same day” mess is lame. They will never pull the energy that Kanye and 50 did coming out on the same day. Jay and Nas are the senior citizens of rap and they need to act accordingly.
NOT SURE HOW AM FEELING ABOUT THIS ONE JAY….IT’S KINDS BORING FOR A FIRST SINGLE…BUT I STILL LUV U THO:)
coop,
the riaa certifcations are not based on sales. they are based on product shipped and sales projections. mad albums fall short of the projections but the heads of record labels can still certify the albums. kingdom come was certified double platinum when it had only sold 1.35 mil copies. it’s since topped out at 1.6 mil with no reasonable hope to ever reaching 2 mil.
**of ever
correcting my last post.
Hated it.
This song is HOT. I love the beat and Jay’s flow is hard! Can’t wait for the album. Keep gettin it Hov.
It just goes to show that Hov is way ahead of his time and yall wont get it until a year from now. Thats my baby! I love HIM! Go Hov! Killn ‘em
BOTTOM LINE, AGE OR NO AGE, KIDS OR ADULTS, THE SONG IS HOT.
THERE SHALL BE NO MORE TALK ABOUT IT FROM THIS POINT ON.
IF YOU SAY SOMETHING, YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE A WEEK OF A ***** IN YOUR EAR OR A WEAVE LIKE SERENA WILLIAMS…GO HEAD, COME TES’ ME NO
yall sooo stupid. Kingdom Come was the best selling hiphop album of 2006. TI was very close. Luda & Game struggled to hit plat. When all the other fools you’re hyping are about to release their tenth albums tell me how much they’re selling.
Still, Jay has really fallen as far as singles are concerned. You need a really hot bumping single since the music biz is all about great 1st week sales and the occasional bump with each new single off your album. His singles lately have sucked, his flow is sounding a little lazy, but he’s still negotiating success/street cred better than a lot of other rappers
Nah, this aint it. Hip hop just is pathetic these days.
I usually like Jay-Z…This song is wack!…Beat is really not that hot (compare it to anything),pharrell needs to stop singing and making beats because that is the worst I have ever heard from him.
I’d rather he rapped about boats, beiotches, and gucci sneaks. Crack guns and the dope game is what everyone else is rapping about= the topic is beyond played out. He needs to hook up with heatmakers, cool&dre, even kanye worst beat is hotter than this!
I want to know both of their opions on the Jena 6 issue. I want to know why I did not see to many if any so called hip-hop artist at that rally yesterday.
Don’t they claim to speak for the people. I think that they all deserve the cold shoulder. You mean to tell me that David Bowie saw the significance of donating money to the lawyers. But none of these YOUNG BLACK MEN can see the significance in making sure that these young men have adequate legal counsel.
I say all of you get over yourself. There are more important things in the world than you.
Correction…
I usually like Jay-Z…However, this song is wack!…The beat is really not that hot (compare it to anything),and pharrell needs to stop singing and making beats because that is the worst I have ever heard from him.
I’d rather he rapped about boats, beiotches, and gucci sneaks. Crack, guns and the dope game is what everyone else is rapping about= the topic is beyond played out. He needs to hook up with heatmakers, cool&dre, TI’s people… even kanye’s worst beat is hotter than this!
stan-b-gone
That’s good spin but not true. Other then one article on the net there is nothing to support the number you are quoting. Fact is the album shipped a million units the first week and sold 680,000 and had over a million sold in less then a month. By the middle of January Sound Scan had the album at 1.4 so going by your numbers it would have had to stopped selling all together.
***** please!
Jay ***** face is a big *****. ***** u jay z ! And stop to name to tupac in your songs *****.
***** u
***** u
***** u
***** u
***** u
I kinda like it. This particular song sounds like something you would hear out of the south from an old school cat like Scarface or Bun B. Isn’t Jay-Z considered “old school”? I think he’s making music for the grown folk and I can dig it, lol.
that is a mature hiphop for me that is my opionon and i m feelin…
I like this song for the same reason I like most of 50’s album…The ***** is taking it back to BEFORE he was rich, before he had the hottest chick in the game and spitting that street ***** that made him who he is in the first place…And a lot of rappers rap about guns crack and ho’s because it’s a reality for so many of us blacks that come up in inner cities…It’s not about what you speak on in your music, it’s about being honest and how you deliver it…
50 also took it back to his “pre” 50 cent days…He was even calling himself Curtis and Boo boo on it…Def feeling the direction hip hop is going in right now…
i really really love jay….but…i am just not feelin this song
i wish he got his “blueprint” flow back….
and pharrell and chad need to kiss and make up because there is no beat like a neptune beat…i am just not feelin solo pharrell…
Stan B-Gone,
You’re right. I was suprised when I learned this a few year ago about record companies using CD’s shipped rather than sold. It’s a marketing ploy to build up the sells.
Me no likey. He needs to stop now before he becomes Mr. Beyonce, or worse…MR. ONLY GOOD ON 16 BARS OF BEYONCE’S TRACK.
@Shell,
Shipped = sold because the record companies are counting the stores that carry the CDs as customers that bought the CD. The stores buy all of these CDs “in anti*****tion” of sales. But when the CD doesn’t sell, all of a sudden, you see prices start dropping. That’s why CDs are always on sale during the first week of release…
Let That Man Live! He’s bringing the 80′S back…got no problem with that cause thats where i was made at!! All the haters need to go play somewhere…more than likely you are late for recess;)
E Wiggz
LYCIC WISE THIS SONG IS PURRRRRRRRREEE TRASHHHHHHHH,AND HE CALLED HIS GIRL A CREOLE SKEE-O THATS THE ONLY GOOD AND TRUE PART OF THE WHOLE THING THAT DRUG GAME RAP IS CORNY ALREADY, JEEZT,TI,WAYNE.JIMMY. ETC ARE DOING IT ALREADY SIT THE HELL DOWN CAMEL ITS OVER.MIDLIFE CRISIS HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
Hova and the rest of hiphop is just pure garbage now and what these semi literate buffoons are inflicting on the community is no less a crime than what happened to the jena 6
Half the people commenting on this track aint even hip hop fans( and they know it). They just looking for something to shake their *****es to( like most *****es). Sorry *****es…There are no instructions on how to do a new dance move or a base drop that you can clap your *****es to…Straight beats and rhymes…If you can’t respect straight beats and rhymes YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF HIP HOP. In fact, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WITH HIP HOP!
Special shout out to the dumb ***** “HOLLA” who said Jeezy,TI, Wayne and Jimmy are already doing drug rap like Jay wasn’t doing it before them *****s even thought about rapping…This is the ***** Jay came in the game spitting and he’s still a whole lot better at it then everybody you named. You win the ‘Dumb ***** of the Day’ award. Congrats!
Blah Blah
They pay for all those CDs
The stores can return the CDs they don’t sell, just like books and the artist get paid on sold not shipped. That’s why it’s so hard for independent artists. Store don’t want to get stuck stuff they can’t sell.
coop, i’d like to go back and forth with you all day but the fact that even your wrong numbers are wrong(you got 2.5 mil out of a double plat certification. my only guess is that you counted the double plat and gold certification and added them together?) cancels this debate out. where are you grabbing these numbers?
i’d urge you all who are interested to check out the blog “listen up” by usa today. they do a monthly check on sales versus certification using nothing but cold hard facts, not pulled out of the air numbers.
in fact, this very question was posed to the writer in february. here’s his response:
This week’s sales question comes from Pinkalicious, who writes:
“Can you break down the double platinum certification versus sales of Jay-Z’s Kingdom Come? It seems like that album stalled in sales a long time ago. There’s no way it’s even close to 2 million sold. Thanks! I love this list!”
Thanks for that — I find it fun to compare certifications and actual sales when possible, and I’m glad some of you enjoy it too. Statistics and a chance to be snarky — unbeatable combination.
Anyway, as to the question itself, yes, there is a definite discrepancy here. The album is certified double platinum, but has sold 1.35 million to date. But then, Jay-Z runs the label, so would you be the person to tell him he was certifying his album too soon?
——————–
that post is dated feb 23rd.
mtv: Although Kingdom Come was heavily promoted, including marketing deals with the NBA and Budweiser, among others, the much-hyped project topped off at 1.6 million units sold — sales figures Jay hadn’t seen since the earlier phases of his career.
billboard: Jay-Z’s album follows quickly on the heels of last year’s “Kingdom Come,” his much-touted “comeback” project. It has sold about 1.5 million copies in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
i’m being nice using the highest number since you can never tell who’s rounding numbers up or down. but i guess soundscan is wrong too, huh?
to quote jay-z: men lie. women lie. numbers don’t.
Is it a kick-***** or sit-your-*****-down song? vote here:
http://www.pollsb.com/polls/poll/2406/jay-z-ft-pharell-blue-magic
Why would anyone take any advice about hiphop from a bunch of gossipy broads, their definition of good rap is how cute the rapper is and does he make them shake their *****es. I am glad he is making street records now for the everyday cat, women can go listen to some Terribel Pain and A Korny if they want to dance
Yo who is holla! lol dude do you even know what this song is going back too? pretty much the track is basically before TI,Jeezy and wayne! Lol and wayne dont even talk that heavy dope dealing ***** and when he does he’s only frontin. Everybody knows Jay was heavy in that back then.His dope money got him his legal money. To me holla you sound like a true hater! lol
And when the movie come out you punks are gonna ***** ride! HOV is that dude period wit the 80’s flow
GOAT
So what if you flip a couple words I could triple at them birds,
open your mind you see the circus in the sky.
I’m Ringling brothers Barnum Bailey with the pies,
no matter how you slice it I’m your mother *****ing guy
Just like a b-boy with 360 waves (hairstyle)
I do the same with the pot, still come back beige.
Whether writers are par, whether the powder with yal (??)
whip it around, it still comes back hard.
So easily do I W-H-I-P,
my repitition with kilos will bring you kilo digits.
I got kreole C-O from my *****s who slipped, became prisoners, trees taped to the visitors.
You already know what the business is
Unnecessary commissary, boy we live this *****.
Wanna bring the 80s back, that’s okay with me, that’s where they made me at.
Except I don’t write on the wall,
I write my name in the history books, hustling in the hall
Nah, I don’t spin on my head I spin work in the pots so I can spend my bread
Chorus:
And I’m getting it I’m getting it
I aint talking about it, I’m living it
I’m getting it, straight getting it
Get get get get get get get it boy
Pharrell sings…
Get it boy
Eighty 7 state of mind that I’m in,
In my prime, so for that time, I’m Rakim
If it wasn’t for those crimes that I’m in
But I wouldn’t be the guy that rhymed in the airs (nikes) that I’m in
Don’t pay no profit, P (Pharrell) I’ll repeat it to show you where the pot is
Cherry (BMW) M3s with the top back
Read and green Gs are on my hat
North beach leathers, matching Gucci sweater,
Gucci sneaks on to keep my outfit together
Whatever, hundred for the diamond chain
Can’t you tell that I came from the dope game
Blame Reagan for making me into a monster
Blame Oliver north and Iran-Contra
I ran contraband that they sponsored
Before this rhyming stuff we was in concert
Chorus
Push, money over broads you got it, Bush
Chef, guess what I cooked
We baked a lot of bread,
and kept it off the books (financial reports, lol)
Rockstars, look, way before the bars my picture was getting took
Feds, they like wack rappers. Try as they may they couldn’t get me on the hook
D.A. wanna indite me, cuz fish scales in my veins like a pisces
The pirecs pack (??) rolled up my sleeve,
turn one into two like a Siamese twin when it end
and I’m saying as a man I’ll die in Armani, last of a dying breed
So let the champagne pop, I partied for a while now I’m back to the Block.
Chorus
Read em and weep
Thats the GOAT!
Black Friday
Everything that Jay does is not HOT! You sound stupid calling her out…she is speaking the TRUTH
This ain’t about taking it back, or keeping it real to the streets… it should be about growth as an artist, i.e. talk about something else. She is right…every artist wants to be THE Cocaine Cowboy (they really ain’t)
THIS song is a DISAPPOINTMENT to most fans (and the ones like me who like most/not all! of his songs. Before you get on age, I’m 31 and I’ve been listening,spinning and supporting hiphop for 20+ years. As far as the lyrics, he starts off slow (wack to me)… but The 2nd half of the song has lyrics (fire if you listen)
The problem is the total package his DELIVERY is not that hot, the beat is just above average (not even good), and pharrel can’t sing …the hook doesn’t even go with the song!
Boring Delivery+Bad singing/hook+ an average beat (typical dance)= Disappointment
I could go back and forth all day, but I’m not.
And name a track thats hotter then that that just came out??? please name one track thats harder then this lol! this ***** will bump trust me thats why they’re rich and *****s like you are stuck behind a computer hatin! lol
T.I. Watch what you say,
Hell Rell Show off
Yung Joc Play ya cards
C*****idy & Fabulous- They have acouple of songs
Kanye Remix- Can’t tell me & Good life
Sean Kingston Game,Rick Ross-Colors
50- I get money + all the remixes
Busta and shabba-Clear the air…
The list goes on…
not feeling it.its too old school soundinfg.sounds like something the clipse will do.i am ghiowever glad that his voice is back and all those whisper rhyujkmes are over with
T.I. Watch what you say,
since my response was cut off ill do it again
T.I. Watch what you say,
Ok I’ll do it like this all the songs you listed are not on the level of this song. Plus there old and Hell Rell cant even come up with two hot songs let alone one. Young Joc???? come on! lol this is rap education right here lol old school. Check out the gear he spit he had on! See you southern *****s wasnt rockin that back then you were always behind the times! lol ya’ll were on that Whoodini One love ***** with them tight ***** pants and lofers wit no socks. LOL LOL let me go find a pic too!
I like Jay Z a lot I have 6 of his CDs, so I am no hater. But this song is whack! His flow is super lazy and I don’t even like the production. Pharell sounds a hot mess maybe they should’ve just put EnVogue in the booth. This is another marketing thing like the black album was (I’m retiring) and like Kingdom Come was ( I’m back). Now he is riding the wave of what is obviously gonna be another Denzel cl*****ic.
Come on rachel stop wit the “I like jay z i got all his albums but i dont like this song” lol its for a movie its set to pain pictures for the movie. The director tapped hov for the sound track. That track is bumpin
All I’m going to say i like blue magic grease.Man i hope this is not the prelude to what his album is going to sound like.Because if so the groupies are going to love it.Didn’t he retire for the 3 rd time
OK.
He’s 40 years old.
He *****in 23 year old latin superstar Beyonce Lopez.
He has $500,000,000 in the bank.
Crackers love him
AND
and he still makes satanic music glorifying drugs and violence to market to young black kids. Damn. As he said on the Black Album,” I’m living proof that crime do pay.” No wonder the only protest you saw him at was for the Rockefeller Drug Laws. Can’t be too harsh on sentencing dope boys!
Jay-ZEEEEE!!!!!
What it do, what it do???!!! Lol!
Seriously—
I wish there were more paople from the industry down in LA yesterday.
Jena6!!
A&T, Benet College and WSSU repre-SENTED in the Lou yesterday!!!!
Remember folks–If you don’t stand for something, you’ll fall for ANYTHING!!!!!
the song is hot the beat is fire the flow priceless give it a chance listen to it before you judge it yall just hating I do want to see that man do his numbers whats wrong wit hov being the best we need to support a man that comes from the hood and make it in life instead of shooting him down cause hes still in the game the game needs him after while yall goin to be saying that ***** about lil wayne
stan-b-gone
The blog that referenced does not even give a source for the number. As far how I came up with my number no I did not add the certifications together because if I had added the gold, platinum and 2x platinum able together that would have been 3.5 since the number that I gave 2.5 that is in no way possible but I will say this you made it sound good. My numbers came from soundscan and RIAA. The last Soundscan I saw for it was before the summer and that was 2.3 so I estimated that it was around 2.5 by now.
The blog that you referenced does not even give a source for the number. As far how I came up with my number no I did not add the certifications together because if I had added the gold, platinum and 2x platinum album together that would have been 3.5 since the number that I gave which is 2.5 is not that total but I will say this you made it sound good. My numbers came from soundscan and RIAA. The last Soundscan I saw for it was before the summer and that was 2.3 so I estimated that it was around 2.5 by now.
catfish
Do you hate black people?
catfish u should be a reporter u say nothing but true facts.that for keeping it real.camel suckkkkkkkkkkkkkks,nother track in the gabage file.
yall **********as are hatin!
This **********in song is TOUGH! stop it!
I think that all of yall are jealous because you know that you are wack! Move over, and shut the ***** up, these NEGROS can buy yall broke *****es!
JENA 6, stop hating!
yea i love jay to death but i hate this song maybe it will grow on me
***** you,***** friday you obviously like to suck on camel ***** i know that he started rapping bout drugs when he first came out cause thats all he knew ***** blower that was 10 years ago i would think he wouldve moved past that by now .oh yeah dont forget to floss and get the camel hair u apparently still have left in your mouth *****.
SO Miss Walls that’s mean you to right!
lmao @ coop. the blog uses soundscan. http://blogs.usatoday.com/listenup/
check out the awards section. he breaks it down every month and clears up some of the confusion about riaa vs soundscan.
i’m done. if you want to believe the album sold 2.5 mil, it’s all good. believe hard enough. it might come true.
did hov ever lie to his fans on any song have he ever and i quote have he ever came wit some bull***** since he started he gave nothing but that pif yall need to some smoke a L and sit back close yall eyes and listen then hit me back holla
@coop
no
Wow, this song is extremely weak and Jay seems to be getting weaker and weaker by the album, thank gawd I have Kanye’s album.
I do have to say that BP1, BP2, and the Black Album are his best albums, yet.
stan-b-gone
You are too funny the first article you used you gave a date of January or Febuary (07) had his sales at 1.3 come on stop the hate you want everyone believe that his album sales basically stopped. In Forbes it is stated that Kingdom Come sold 2 million albums and they note one of the places the info came from was soundscan not RIAA. So are you say that Forbes has a reason to lie about the info it received from soundscan?
http://www.forbes.com/business/2007/08/15/hip-hop-millionaires-biz-cx_lg_0816hiphop.html
1. Reasonable Doubt Platinum
2. Volume 1… 2X plat
3. Volume 2 is certified 5X platinum in US and 8+ mill worldwide
4. Volume 3- 3X plat
5. Dynasty- 2X plat
6. Blueprint- 2X plat
7. Blueprint 2- 4X plat
8. Black Album- 4X plat
9. Kingdom Come…predicting 2X plat…
A wise man told me don’t argue with fools Cause people from a distance, can’t tell who is who
In other words I need to stop arguing with you.
To all the Jay haters here is the link to the new blue magic video trailer.
Best of Both Offices: New Jay-Z “Blue Magic” Trailer/Song
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BgAorsVQbwU
I am a one of the 12 disciples, and I cant relate to this song.
People need to make up their mind. When he went with a more mature introspective concept on Kingdome Come people hated on it, now that he’s more on the original Reasonable Doubt(cl*****ic) type concept people are hating. Jay should just do him and if he’s smart he’ll stick to the more inspired producers like Just Blaze, Ninth Wonder, Kanye, DJ Premier that he works well with and not fancy dressed up bull***** from the neptunes.
damn this flow is bad… and the beat doesn’t realy flashs me… all in all jay-z lost his style somwhere after 99 problems
Hello WHAT HAPPENED TO RETIREMENT. OH PALLEEA*****E….. Yes he does look a bit swollen in the pic. HA HA HA …..HANG IT UP BOYEEEEEE
oh my god, that track is bad so *****ing bad.
i agree with kaspar…and now where is the old J style, jigga?!
damn what happended didn’t he ear enough money? this beat is not really a banger and the rap like every part he did in the last lp’s..i miss the old j
I LOVE IT! (I could do without P singing the EnVogue hook) but I still LOVE IT!
Rap music, or music in general is calling for more creative forms of self expression. It’s calling for a new awareness from the artists. Music should be more then just something we hear, it should carry healing and love for the soul. It is a God given talent with a purpose for healing. We are being misdirected by focusing on what we gain from making music, more then what we can give through it…
`Light and Love
~B.R.B.
Rap music, or music in general is calling for more creative forms of self expression. It’s calling for a new awareness from the artists. Music should be more then just something we hear, it should carry healing and love for the soul. It is a God given talent with a purpose for healing. We are being misdirected by focusing on what we gain from making music, more then what we can give through it…
`Light and Love
~B.R.B.
yo i love this song now. i used to hate but i love it now. this ***** is gansta man.
this joint is not hot!
jay-z/pharrell need to give way to new ideas
if you cats need beats
hit me up on http://www.my*****e.com/bnspiredmanagement
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