TI on the Cover of Black Men Magazine

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T.I.

T.I. is on the cover of Black Men Magazine with two scrumptious individuals on either side of him. During the interview with BMM he said, “opportunities present themselves and I take advantage of them.” Looking at the pic above, we won’t argue that point.

More pics of TI and the two chicks in an interesting position below.
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406 Responses to “TI on the Cover of Black Men Magazine”

    DaddyO

    12/3/08, 09:17:am

    golden

    Joey B

    12/3/08, 09:18:am

    dawg goin to jail hahaha

    NIKKI UNDERWOOD

    12/3/08, 09:18:am

    I have never wanted to be Asian before…

    Baby Girl

    12/3/08, 09:19:am

    Mmmmmhmm T.i. u just too sexci!

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 09:24:am

    in a couple of months, it’s gone be 2 big ***** *****s named D-Roc and shane on the side of him. the yare going to take advantage of some opportunities that present themselves two….lol

    Black Beauty

    12/3/08, 09:24:am

    He looks nice, enough said.

    anitabonita

    12/3/08, 09:25:am

    umm hmmm Tiny Watch ur back as if u werent all ready.T.I been looking good enough to eat lately

    Ignorance is Contagious

    12/3/08, 09:28:am

    ah YES! The image of the over sexual beastly Black male and the Jezebal, Saphire Black woman! Its simply amazing.

    Re

    12/3/08, 09:29:am

    The girl on the left…isn’t that the same girl from the “Dangerous” video with Kardinal Official?

    Vee

    12/3/08, 09:30:am

    Morning Peeps. T.I. can get it-with his cute lil self…Judging by the pics it looks like he’ll be getting free Chinese food at the Penn :-)

    Shy

    12/3/08, 09:31:am

    That ain’t right. Why he have to be so Goddamn sexy??!!

    Mz_Magnificent1 LUVS Her Prez

    12/3/08, 09:32:am

    Hey…I can’t even hate the girls are actually pretty and T.I. looks good per usual.

    I wouldn’t even be mad if my man copped this issue and had it on his coffee table…shoooooot T.I. looks straight up delicious!!! Eyecandy for your man and T.I. is eyecandy for the ladies ;-) !!!

    College Girl Swag

    12/3/08, 09:33:am

    Funny how the cover says “Sexiest Black Women Alive” and the two girls on the cover with T.I. look Asian and Hispanic.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 09:33:am

    Wow that lesbian photo on the couch got my gun *****ed and ready.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 09:37:am

    OK, I fail to see what’s attractive about this man. Doesn’t he have a criminal record? And that photo for a married man (he’s married to Tiny, right?) with kids looks absolutely wholesome.

    No thanks. Say No to Thugs.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 09:37:am

    @College Girl Swag… I thought the same thing ma.

    Mz_Magnificent1 LUVS Her Prez

    12/3/08, 09:39:am

    @ College Girl Swag…

    That chick on the left (in the main pic) is a straight-up lightskin Black girl…

    Vinandi ( thinks Sasha fierce is a douchebag and that her Stans have mental issues!)!)

    12/3/08, 09:40:am

    @ sydney

    You can’t see whats good looking about the scrumptious piece of man??? are you blind? check those sexy lips and when he talks!!! ooohh la! Loves me some T.I! and if Tiny can get him, then i have a chance if I ever get to meet him! yummmmyyyyy!!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 09:40:am

    LOL @ the “for strong, positive, caring brothers” line in small letters at the top

    Sharpton's perm

    12/3/08, 09:42:am

    Well… he’s a black man, but where are the Black women?

    self hatred is an ugly thing. wonder how his mom and sister feel about that?

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 09:43:am

    LOL @ Vivandi

    You said it all with “piece of man.”

    Nothing attractive about convicted felons to me. There are plenty of attractive brothers who are living their lives on the straight and narrow. And they’re ALL men — not pieces.

    Mz_Magnificent1 LUVS Her Prez

    12/3/08, 09:45:am

    LMAO @ Sydney…I can see where you are coming from. I love T.I. but yeah he has done some things that are below his intellect…definitely the badboy you admire from a distance.

    And no T.I. and Tiny are not married…they are ‘engaged’.

    Willbo

    12/3/08, 09:45:am

    *****ody sees a problem with the fact T.I. is on the cover of “Black Men” with two women, other than Tiny? You’d figure the magazine would want to present T.I. in a respectable manner. These chicks belong in his videos, not on the cover of “Black Men.” *****-backwards, I’m just saying.

    Vinandi ( thinks Sasha fierce is a douchebag and that her Stans have mental issues!)!)

    12/3/08, 09:47:am

    @ Sydney

    I agree that T.I is not someone that I would look for as a life partner HOWEVER booty call, freaky deaky loving! he just does it for me! he is mighty fine!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 09:47:am

    @SYDNEY
    “LOL @ the “for strong, positive, caring brothers” line in small letters at the top”
    __________________________________________________________

    OMG!! I just noticed that at the top. I had no idea that was there. I think I’m going to cancel my subscription “rite na!!”

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 09:49:am

    @Mz_Magnificent

    “And no T.I. and Tiny are not married…they are ‘engaged’.”

    They have children (how many kids is it now?) together, and they’re not yet married? *clutching my pearls*

    Boy, his stock is rising by the minute, isn’t it?

    I can’t even admire bad boys from a distance — I’m disgusted. There’s nothing “admirable” about them.

    Now a brother who actually fits this magazine’s bill of “strong, positive, and caring” is what I consider attractive and should be admired.

    Tealeaf

    12/3/08, 09:50:am

    Tiny is such a lucky lady…

    Vinandi ( thinks Sasha fierce is a douchebag and that her Stans have mental issues!)!)

    12/3/08, 09:51:am

    why are people suprised that such a magazine used two non black models?? same old same old really,most of the video vixens are latina/asian anyways so it doesnt bother me!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 09:52:am

    @Vinandi

    “I agree that T.I is not someone that I would look for as a life partner HOWEVER booty call, freaky deaky loving! he just does it for me! he is mighty fine!”

    Girl, I thought you were being facetious earlier! Can we say STDs? Doesn’t he play the field quite a bit?

    @Man

    “OMG!! I just noticed that at the top. I had no idea that was there. I think I’m going to cancel my subscription “rite na!!”

    LOL, I know you have this issue at home.

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 09:54:am

    I wonder if I could get fired for fingerbanging myself at work… hmmmm… I’ve decided it’s worth the risk!

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 09:55:am

    They are both lighter than T.I. and that is quite a feat.
    I think I’m darker than T.I. myself.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 09:55:am

    @SYDNEY
    “OMG!! I just noticed that at the top. I had no idea that was there. I think I’m going to cancel my subscription “rite na!!”

    LOL, I know you have this issue at home.
    _____________________________________________________________

    I have thrown all of my issues away (after taking out favorite photo shots). I want no part of a magazine “for strong, positive, caring brothers.”

    We all know I don’t “care.”

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 10:01:am

    wut up Oshie?

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 10:01:am

    @Vinandi

    “why are people suprised that such a magazine used two non black models?? same old same old really,most of the video vixens are latina/asian anyways so it doesnt bother me!”

    Well, it would be more than a little ironic if Essence, for instance, used Latino/Asian models for its annual men’s issue, for instance, given the magazine’s focus on black women and black culture.

    But I think that this cover probably reflects the types of women T.I. showcases in his videos (Not that I watch them, so, please correct me if I’m wrong).

    @Man

    “We all know I don’t “care.”

    Oh, yes, you do, lol. :)

    I just think it’s funny — If I subscribed to a magazine that featured half-nude men, I wouldn’t think it catered to “strong, positive, caring sister” (or else I would expect someone like Oprah on the cover). But, eh, that’s just me. . .

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 10:02:am

    What it don’t Man?
    I’m finally finished with school, that’s whats up, enjoying this lovely Louisiana weather and sippin on some craptastic community coffee!

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 10:03:am

    @ Sydney: We really need to get together and start a magazine.

    Earthchild

    12/3/08, 10:04:am

    What, they couln’t find one beautiful black girl to put on the cover? Where are all the nice dark skinned women out there!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 10:06:am

    Hey Oshie!

    “@ Sydney: We really need to get together and start a magazine.”

    Actually, I’ve thought about doing just that for a while, so just say the word. :)

    Gotta go — check in later.

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 10:07:am

    @ Sydney: Great! I’ll start rounding up the half naked men. Where’s my l*****o?

    MR FLORIDA

    12/3/08, 10:08:am

    that would be a nice 3piece….WITH a biscuit. must be nice

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 10:12:am

    @SYDNEY
    ““We all know I don’t “care.”

    Oh, yes, you do, lol.

    I just think it’s funny — If I subscribed to a magazine that featured half-nude men, I wouldn’t think it catered to “strong, positive, caring sister” (or else I would expect someone like Oprah on the cover). But, eh, that’s just me. . .”
    ______________________________________________________________

    LOL. Come on now Sydney. Enjoying the female body and being “strong, positive and caring” aren’t mutually exclusive.

    I bet Barack has peeped at a few of these mags before in his life. (ducking shoe that you throw)

    WOW

    12/3/08, 10:16:am

    WOW…T.I. looks great, but WTF? Where’s his wife. I think this is a little ridiculous…images we put out as black people are real messed up…

    da darkness

    12/3/08, 10:17:am

    down wit the kings…Usher and T.I. they bring’em out

    Aries Chica

    12/3/08, 10:18:am

    I have to concur dearly…ENTERTAINMENT or NOT you have a WOMEN/WIFE at home this is some bafoonery. I think the shyt is wack!

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 10:27:am

    I would think on a Black mens magazine, they would be women who were obviously black, not someone I have to investigate and figure out.

    I would have loved seeing a cl*****y sexy pic of him and Tiny… oh well our people allow them to paint these pictures of them. I’m sure theres alot more to TI then just half naked asian/hispanic hoes… but you couldnt tell by this *****.

    The funny thing is I NEVER see black women, in latin or asian magazines.. go figure. They respect their women and image.

    Christmas Time aka ATXChick

    12/3/08, 10:29:am

    @Oshie: did you get your study on like you were suppose to mam?

    mzlee

    12/3/08, 10:32:am

    so its ok 4 him to talk about it rap about it (other women, lesbians, cheating) but he cant take a photo like this plz get the ***** outta here with that bullsh^t hell look @ Tiny she ugly as ***** so any time he can be around some real beauty i’m sure he jumps @ it 4 he have to go back home to her ugly a$$ i tell u tho he must love the girl cuz i’m sure most females would give her rite ovary to b with that nicca(me on the other hand i think he fire but i’m lookn 4 Idris Elba anybody seen him lol) quit hating on dude he hot rite now even with *****onyce cd out he still got the number 1 song in the country u gotta love that!

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 10:33:am

    @ TX Chick: Yeah you know I tried… but I feel like even if I studied more I would have studied the wrong thing. I feel pretty confident. I think.

    We had a written answer part that I filled out 4 pages front and back so either I kicked ***** or I’m a crazy idiot!

    PURPPLE

    12/3/08, 10:40:am

    This filth first thing in the monin…….

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 10:47:am

    Those *****es are on the cover because they’re fine. Fine and Sexy transcends ethnicity or pride. Would you hos prefer that ugly ***** Alek Wek & Serena Williams? Let’s be honest, these men magazines have exhausted all the fine black women suchas Meylissa Ford, Esther Baxter, Meagan Good, Lauren London, Gabrielle Union, etc. All there’s left is bust it babys.

    Christmas Time aka ATXChick

    12/3/08, 10:48:am

    @Oshie: you are crazy cause you have me cracking up every day!!! But I know your smart and I know you did well on your exam or what not….

    c'mon black folks

    12/3/08, 10:49:am

    Ok. The magazine is called “Black Man” and apparently has a feature of the sexiest black women alive… but there is an Asian and a mixed/barely black girl on the cover? Not to mention the man on the cover is married. THIS is a picture of EXACTLY what is wrong with us.

    You don’t see whites, asians, and blacks on the cover of latino magazines. You rarely see women of color on the cover of GQ and Esquire. WHY oh WHY are blacks the ONLY race with absolutely no loyalty to our own???
    The editor-in-chief at Black Man needs his BLACK ***** whipped!

    sybil

    12/3/08, 10:49:am

    T.I looks sSOOO fine. But yea, there should of been sum BLK women up on der… Like me

    sybil

    12/3/08, 10:50:am

    BLK women r the best just wanna say iif yall already didnt know!!

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 10:50:am

    I told ya.

    Black women are no longer the object of desire for black men. We are not beautiful enough. Our hair doesnt dry after 10 minutes of getting out a pool. Our noses arent pointed; but wide. Our hair is not always down our backs. Our complexions are not always light skinned. Our eyes are not always hazel or some other color. We can give thanks to videos for that.

    This is what my breakdown is for what these black men like as far as looks in women.
    1) She must have a fat a**, thick thighs, and ample *****. (I mean, we all know that men are visual and sometimes, very, very simple men) It doesnt take much to arouse and excite them. While possessing these physical attributes……she must also have:
    2) Cacausian features (i.e hair, nose, lips (sometimes), and anything else superficial that men like to see.
    3) They have to be mixed with something ELSE but black. Chinese, brazilian, asian, etc….

    Its like…..they dont want a white girl. But if they can find one close to it with a black womens body, then I’m sure they would act like the sappy house negro when the master asks to bring more tea. Showing all 45 of his white a** teeth.

    This is why I dont date black men. Other men in other races appreciate a black woman more than our own men do. And I dont have time to sit and wait for a “black prince” after him and his horse byp***** me to pick up the lighter skinned princess with the wavy, jet-black hair. I tell them from the jump that I dont date black men and probably never will. Aside from being overly materialistic and boring (to say the least), they dont excite me mentally. Probably only physicallt because they ARE always dressed (that much I can say). But once that dwindles, I need substance and most of them are just carbon-copies of the previous dude, so I know their mental is lacking in the “intellectual” field.

    Anywho…..I am a nice-looking female and I have no problems with meeting any type of man but right now my choice in not black men, since we are not the choice for them. Hey, I’ve seen some cute asians though! lol

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 10:55:am

    @Raquel 26

    You seem pretty upset.

    Hotstuff

    12/3/08, 11:01:am

    :drool: @ TIP

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 11:02:am

    @SYBIL

    Damn you fine.

    mulkin

    12/3/08, 11:04:am

    he is lookin hot

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 11:06:am

    raquel 26, thats just not true, booboo, black men LOVE black women, hel, we just like ALL women though….we don’t limit ourselves to just one category…

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 11:06:am

    @ Man: rofltuihsdfowaef lmao

    @ TX Chick: I’m a smart*****. That’s not the same as being smart, but I wish’t it was…

    Marquis de Sade

    12/3/08, 11:07:am

    @ Raquel 26

    LOL! Sounds like you found a whiteboy with a ***** ***** fetish. Does he make you where an Aunt Jemima getup, sing some old slave/chuch spirituals while cooking dinner? Ain’t swirlin’ grand?

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 11:11:am

    i wish that black women would date more outside of their race, because this is killing me. at the end of the day, race does not matter!!! we all bleed and die and are going to spend eternity in heaven or hell. please, try something that you haven’t before, you can find something good in all people, so don’t limit yourself!!! at the end of the day, you won’t have any regrets, what you want in a man could be in a white, black, asian, latin, african, guyanese or any type of man. us black men are not holding you back from exploring, trust me. because we are going to do us regardless. and it’s nothing wrong with that….no matter what you say…..

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 11:15:am

    c’mon black folks…. totally co-sign.

    If you notice you NEVER see a black man come to the defense of his black woman. They are the main ones calling black women haters, hoes, *****es,ugly,fat etc. Not ONE black dude has got on this thread and said, he appreciate his sistas. Each and every thread about a black man that comes up, I guarantee you a sista got his back in some kind of way. From TI & Nelly, to Obama.(I havent heard one black man say something nice about Michelle Obama) Some ***** above just said alex wek and serena were ugly, and their are no more pretty black girls to use in magazines. I swear there are alot of jiggaboo, self hating ***** *****s on bossip.

    I wonder how their black mothers would feel about that? or maybe that’s the problem, it’s not being instilled in the home from the beginning. We to busy telling our kids to be in sports and music instead of how to proud of themselves and what they are. SMH.. WOW

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 11:17:am

    How is only dating your own race, limiting yourself?

    Why do people feel dating other races is a “come-up” or some kind of an upgrade?

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 11:23:am

    Nina Knows

    How is only dating your own race, limiting yourself?

    Why do people feel dating other races is a “come-up” or some kind of an upgrade?

    ***** have you ever woke up in the morning to one of you black hos snoring next to you with all that weave glue staining your pillows? That’s enough to drive any ***** to a white, latina, or asian *****.

    Chanel Shades

    12/3/08, 11:26:am

    Tacky picture for a man trying to turn his life around. I love ya lil bro but I got to check ya on this ***** right here.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 11:32:am

    JD’s Revenge… First off I’m not your *****. and if your waking up with a woman with weave glue staining your pilliow, she can be any *****ing race. You dumb, ignorant, uneducated *****s make me laugh. Only a ***** would be happy to take out the white mans’ trash.

    You could never insult me because your too stupid to do so, the only sad thing is there are about a million other *****s just like you.

    You are the reason nice black women like Raquel26 get frustrated and date white men. But I’m still sticking with my black men, but you *****s could drop dead and die for all I care.

    BE

    12/3/08, 11:33:am

    TI you look scrumptous as usual but man what image are you portraying? Two women on the cover, inside they look like they are about to get it on..WTF – you lost some serious cool points with me and for this Tiny should kick ya *****! Have some respect for your wife the mother of your children, your children and yourself…

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 11:36:am

    **sigh**

    I can see this turning into a black men vs. black women thread. Bossip’s second leading thread as far as post count.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 11:37:am

    @NINA KNOWS
    “But I’m still sticking with my black men…”
    __________________________________________________________

    thank you

    c'mon black people

    12/3/08, 11:40:am

    I just wrote the editor of the magazine. I’m seriously disgusted by this cover.

    Also, Talley-B and others, PLEASE stop with the “we are keeping ourselves open” and “not limiting” bull*****. Let’s keep it real. Being open-minded to love despite color is one thing, but when OUR culture is persistently pumping this non-black beauty standard down our throats something is wrong! It is sad when you have to search for black women in black videos and in black magazines. 70% of ALL interracial couples involves a black man. That is FAR MORE than being open. That is expressing a preference. Please.

    c'mon black people

    12/3/08, 11:42:am

    @ Nina

    Yeah, isn’t it funny how a coon always *****umes that weave and fake nails is a black thing. There are PLENTY of non-black women who do it. Newsflash: Britney, Paris, Kim K, CoCo all weare WEAVES… and in Britney’s case, bad ones!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 11:43:am

    those women are fine, no denying that. They look like they ain’t all black though.

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 11:44:am

    Nina Don’t Know *****

    STFU ho. It my fault you black *****es have fallen off the scale of disirabiliy. I don’t make the rules, i just reflect them. Deal with it *****. I ain’t here to change the world or chant OOOMGOWER, BLACK POWER! I’m just here to get by, get laid and get paid.

    jas

    12/3/08, 11:44:am

    @ RAQUEL 26!!!

    I FEEL YOU GIRL! KEEP THE SWIRL ALIVE!!!

    c'mon black people

    12/3/08, 11:45:am

    Oh, and not to mention that black women get dissed for weave, but at my college (predomintaley white southern university) it was nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find a white girl without implants and a tan. I don’t care what anyone says, white women are THE most made-up artificial women in the world. They wear more make-up and have more surgeries than any other race. And last time I checked, a weave is not permanent or deadly like surgery or tanning is.

    BMore's_Finest

    12/3/08, 11:46:am

    I went to school with the girl on the left and she is Black…her parents are black…and no she aint got no Indian up in her either. lol I don’t necessarily like the pic…i think it’s tasteless especially since you only get a couple hundred for these shots anyway. But that’s what sells…unfortunately.

    BE

    12/3/08, 11:47:am

    Why is it that some black men will resort to calling black women *****es, hos etc when there is a disagreement? Why not discuss the issue at hand?

    c'mon black people

    12/3/08, 11:50:am

    @ BE
    Because JD’s Revenge is obviously too dumb to stick to the issue.

    jas

    12/3/08, 11:51:am

    @ NINA KNOWS!

    I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT…DON’T EVEN RESPOND TO JD’S REVENGE. HE’S OBVIOUSLY UNHAPPY WITH HIMSELF AND HIS PEOPLE.

    THE NAME CALLING IS SOOOOO OVERARTED GUYS!

    lilianasanchez86

    12/3/08, 11:53:am

    t.i. is lookin good!!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 11:54:am

    @C’Mon Black People
    “Oh, and not to mention that black women get dissed for weave, but at my college (predomintaley white southern university) it was nearly IMPOSSIBLE to find a white girl without implants and a tan. I don’t care what anyone says, white women are THE most made-up artificial women in the world. They wear more make-up and have more surgeries than any other race. And last time I checked, a weave is not permanent or deadly like surgery or tanning is.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Do you think you are taking the “weave” comment a little TOO “personally?”

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 11:54:am

    c’mon black people

    @ BE
    Because JD’s Revenge is obviously too dumb to stick to the issue.

    If blindly agreeing with you pompous *****s, then yeah, you right, *****.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 11:56:am

    @JD’S Revenge…

    You get dumber with each post, you said: “It my fault you black *****es have fallen off the scale of disirabiliy. I don’t make the rules, i just reflect them.”

    Black women have never been undesirable, you can go back and ask your slave m*****a about that one. Just because *****s dont reconize black beauty, doesnt mean it doesnt exsist. and your right only Real men make rules *****, not *****s. Of course your not a boss of anything, it does not suprise me that you would say you dont make the rules, you just reflect them….lol

    You are a goon, a boss man’s *****. You dont have your own mind, you just go with what a another man tell you to do. Simple minded ***** *****a. A true ***** made ***** *****.

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 11:56:am

    “…….It my fault you black *****es have fallen off the scale of disirabiliy. I don’t make the rules, i just reflect them. Deal with it *****. I ain’t here to change the world or chant OOOMGOWER, BLACK POWER! I’m just here to get by, get laid and get paid.”

    @ JD’s Revenge

    It IS your fault you let yourself get programmed and you are too delayed in your thinking to do anything about it. You have let the media dictate to you what is desirable (by the likes of this magazine’s cover) instead of following your own judgement. When questioned, you reach for stereotypes that were force fed to you by the media in order to justify your thoughts.To each his own though. Keep “getting by, getting laid and getting paid”……follow your ambitions. I will follow mine…..with a Black woman by my side.

    woe

    12/3/08, 11:57:am

    You know what is so funny. I am a dark skin african american female yes african american not black and I rarely watch bet because I rarely see any representation of me isn’t that funny. I watch other networks and I see more representation

    S2E

    12/3/08, 11:58:am

    Is anyone really surprised by this cover? Come on, look at the featured topics on the magazine. It’s a sex magazine and not meant to stimulate anyone intellectually. If you want something with substance you have to keep searching. Magazines like this aren’t going anywhere. That’s like wishing the strip clubs away. It will never happen. Personally, I like TI, but this shyt is a turn off. As far as there not being a black woman on the cover, I don’t really care because at the end of the day it would just be one more sista reducing herself to ***** and ***** just to be the flavor of the month.

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 11:59:am

    @man I just dont care:

    Honestly? Just a tad. I’m not hating black men, its just that if I can be desirable to another man who isnt black, then why not date him if he is up to my standards?

    I would love to marry a black man and raise black children, but it seems to me that we arent the women they want anymore.

    So it seems.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:00:pm

    Man, I just don’t care

    @NINA KNOWS
    “But I’m still sticking with my black men…”
    __________________________________________________________

    thank you
    _________________________________________________-
    Oh your welcome. I would never turn my back on the brothas, I’m not a swirl parti*****nt personally. But I dont ***** with *****s. I’m sure you know the difference.

    I dont think it’s cool for black women/men to get *****ed and take it out on all blacks. I would never let *****s turn me away from loving my people. That ***** ***** is a cop-out

    c'mon black people

    12/3/08, 12:01:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t care
    Nah. I just think that it is a very played out argument. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had a weave before. I’ve had braids. I’ve even owned a wig. Hair is an accessory. I just find it funny that black men focus on that more than something way more serious like fake lips, fake *****, fake *****es, and cancerous skin.

    @ JD’s Revenge
    There is a way to make a point without sounding like a 3rd grader… but I guess you’d have to have a point first. :-)

    jas

    12/3/08, 12:01:pm

    “getting by, getting laid and getting paid”

    THE ULTIMATE BALCK MANS MOTTO: SMDH

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 12:02:pm

    “…You are a goon, a boss man’s *****. You dont have your own mind, you just go with what a another man tell you to do. Simple minded ***** *****a. A true ***** made ***** *****.”

    @ Nina

    EXACTLY

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 12:03:pm

    @Marquis:

    Ain’t it though! lol

    Kidding.

    I know I probably over exaggerated in that post. And this wasnt going towards all black men, either. I guess, just the ones that I have come into contact with and have had conversations with.
    You’d be surprised.

    But no….I dont dress up in the Aunt Jemina get-up. Actually, I make him wear old slave master clothing and make him tell me all the things that white people have done wrong to each and every race they stole, lied, and enslaved from.

    All while eating the _____! Its great! :)

    woe

    12/3/08, 12:05:pm

    @Raquel26

    Girlfriend I feel you totally on alot of points you made however all brothers don’t feel that way. I am open to different races as well but its more of a character issue for me rather than color. Yes my 1st preference is a brother because I love their lips bottoms and shared experiences but when it comes down to it respecting me is what does it. Don’t let people change you because of their personal hang ups, stay true to yourself regardless or you may miss out on a brother due to prejudging.

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 12:06:pm

    @ woe

    I don’t blame you. I’m not even dark and I get *****ed off watching BET.

    BE

    12/3/08, 12:06:pm

    If blindly agreeing with you pompous *****s, then yeah, you right, *****
    *******************************
    This is a shocker….

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:08:pm

    @RAQUEL 26
    “Honestly? Just a tad. I’m not hating black men, its just that if I can be desirable to another man who isnt black, then why not date him if he is up to my standards?

    I would love to marry a black man and raise black children, but it seems to me that we arent the women they want anymore.

    So it seems.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    Oh. Ok.

    “Sometimes things aren’t what they seem.”

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:10:pm

    Nina Don’t Know ***** & The Rest of You Pompous *****s

    My judgement tells me those *****es on that cover is fine. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. It’s stupid *****s like you, who are forever trying to convince other *****s that the sky is blue, when it’s actually raining outside. F*ck that! If you *****s feel it’s more blacker to consider Alek Wek or Serena Williams more finer than those two fine *****es up top, then maybe y’all should become politicians and spread yo bull***** to the m*****es. Me, I ain’t buying it. I know what fine is. Deal with it. Some of y’all are the same *****es calling Rick Ross, Jay Z and Jermaine DuPree ugly.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:12:pm

    @jas… thanks!

    and I agree with that ***** motto too. But yhea he’s a lost cause. just an idiot. one reason I made my comment is because the sistas get NO love on here, and it was kinda frustrating. But it doesnt make me mad, sad if anything, because so many of our people actually think like that.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:13:pm

    @C’MON BLACK PEOPLE
    “Nah. I just think that it is a very played out argument. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve had a weave before. I’ve had braids. I’ve even owned a wig. Hair is an accessory. I just find it funny that black men focus on that more than something way more serious like fake lips, fake *****, fake *****es, and cancerous skin”
    ________________________________________________________

    Yeah, some black men focus on weave more than surgery. But apparently surgery isn’t as “serious” to them. “Serious” is a relative term.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:16:pm

    @NINA KNOWS
    “and I agree with that ***** motto too. But yhea he’s a lost cause. just an idiot. one reason I made my comment is because the sistas get NO love on here, and it was kinda frustrating. But it doesnt make me mad, sad if anything, because so many of our people actually think like that.”
    ___________________________________________________________

    How do you define “getting love?”

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 12:17:pm

    “…I would love to marry a black man and raise black children, but it seems to me that we arent the women they want anymore.”

    @ Raquel 26

    This isn’t true. I can’t judge you on who you date or ultimately raise a family with but don’t “jump ship” based on that theory. You just need to find the right Black man. We don’t all think like that…..at least the Brothas I know.

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:19:pm

    Nina defines getting love by shouting I’M A BLACK WOMAN, YOU SUPPOSE TO LOVE ME! Crazy *****.

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 12:19:pm

    @Syd:

    GIRL!! This is what I’m talking about!!! I’ve been saying this for years! Let me know…..I got me a nice camera and I can set up auditions and take pics and send them to ya!

    And our magazine would have brothas of ALL shades. lol :)

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 12:22:pm

    @Illuminate Truth:

    I feel you. Its hard not to categorize, but then I would be stupid because not all black men (and people for that matter) are alike. But it does get upsetting at times!

    I love my black men as well, and ultimately, I will probably be with a black man. I’m just tired of sifting, and sifting, and sifting…….:(

    Manhattan

    12/3/08, 12:23:pm

    Brothas who marry black women go further in their careers. If Puff got some sense he’d marry his baby momma Kim & he’ll see how his ambition of becoming a serious actor will flurish.

    Black men beating their chests hollering about being “Kings & Gods of the Earth” w/ non-sistas by their sides look ridiculous to the rest of the world.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:24:pm

    How do you define “getting love?”

    Basically having something positive to say about a woman that shares the same culture as yourself. I’m speaking from what I see and hear.. I hear alot of black man bashing, but I always see some sista come to the defense of black men. But when the shoe is on the other foot, I never hear a black man say ***** about how all black women are not like that. I guess to me, I see alot less loyalty in black men. I’m not saying you cant see beauty in other women, but it seems as though they dont see any in their own. and when they do it’s always a woman that’s not all black anyway, which is kinda insulting. I’m not telling anyone who they should like.

    But if your black and dont find other blacks of the opposite sex attractive, I find that to be a little disturbing. If a black man is digusted by black women, what does he think of his mother or black women in his family?

    woe

    12/3/08, 12:25:pm

    @Raquel26

    All people of quality have to sift, it mean that you have standards. Just have patience, pick up a hobby or something : )

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:27:pm

    Raquel26

    ***** get yo world weary i got the whole weight of the dating jerks and *****holes on my shoulders rhetoric outta here. There was prolly a lot of nice *****s stepping up to yo ***** but you was prolly too busy looking the other way.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:27:pm

    JD’s Revenge

    Nina defines getting love by shouting I’M A BLACK WOMAN, YOU SUPPOSE TO LOVE ME! Crazy *****.
    ______________________________________
    Your a hilarious little dumb ***** boy

    Black men dont have to be forced to love black women, they already do. It’s just *****s who dont love themselves, so they hate anyone else that looks like them.

    But hey keep going, your kinda entertaining…..

    Manhattan

    12/3/08, 12:28:pm

    JD’s revenge said…” Some of y’all are the same *****es calling Rick Ross, Jay Z and Jermaine DuPree ugly”

    JD> Ugly is defined by features NOT color of skin! if u made Jermaine Dupri’s face light skinned he’d still be an Ugly ***** Chuka!!!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:30:pm

    @NINA KNOWS
    “Basically having something positive to say about a woman that shares the same culture as yourself. I’m speaking from what I see and hear.. I hear alot of black man bashing, but I always see some sista come to the defense of black men. But when the shoe is on the other foot, I never hear a black man say ***** about how all black women are not like that. I guess to me, I see alot less loyalty in black men. I’m not saying you cant see beauty in other women, but it seems as though they dont see any in their own. and when they do it’s always a woman that’s not all black anyway, which is kinda insulting. I’m not telling anyone who they should like.

    But if your black and dont find other blacks of the opposite sex attractive, I find that to be a little disturbing. If a black man is digusted by black women, what does he think of his mother or black women in his family?”
    _______________________________________________________________

    Oh. I guess from that perspective some of the guys on here “aren’t” showing love.

    Maybe our “definitions” of “showing love” are just different. Do you think it could be that?

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:31:pm

    Manhattan

    You right ***** and if Alek Wek or Serena Williams was light skinned, they’d still be some ugly black *****es.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:32:pm

    @MANHATTAN
    “JD> Ugly is defined by features NOT color of skin! if u made Jermaine Dupri’s face light skinned he’d still be an Ugly ***** Chuka!!!”
    ___________________________________________________________

    Um…. when did the definition of “ugly” get so specific?

    I thought people could include whatever they want when determining whether something was ugly or not.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:32:pm

    @Illuminate Truth… wow, brotha we need more like you!!

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 12:35:pm

    I 100% co-sign with C’mon Black People. There is a BIG difference between being open and self hate.

    Take for instance Real Chance of Love on Vh1. THAT is some sad ***** *****. The black girls are constantly overlooked. It’s funny that the black girls are actually cuter, but just seem to get no love. Not that it is a huge deal because Real and Chance are whack… but still irritating to watch them grovel and drool over that old’ ***** Milf and ditzy, flabby Bubbles.

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 12:39:pm

    @ JD:
    “I know what fine is. Deal with it. Some of y’all are the same *****es calling Rick Ross, Jay Z and Jermaine DuPree ugly.”

    Huh? You really gonna compare ugly facial features to skin color? Would you really compare Gabrielle Union and Kelly Rowland (dark skin and pretty faces) to Jay-Z and his camel features?

    OmG

    12/3/08, 12:39:pm

    Dating as it pertains to the black male as become a point of status in society……Black men who have “made it” or on the verge *not all but some* tend to date mixed females or in some cases white females its like a symbol of some sort….and out of it can result in true love but for the most part IMO its just a ploy. Anyways I think that features do play apart in it…..as well * note to men white girls do where weaves* as a matter of fact everyone does…..who desires a certain look… Faboulous made the lil comment in the magazine about who has the more flatter stomach and toned body….

    Me myself i’m not opposed to dating outside my race but it won’t be because he has blue eyes or something it would be because I like him

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 12:39:pm

    @man, I just dont care

    Maybe our “definitions” of “showing love” are just different. Do you think it could be that?
    __________________________________________________

    Of course it is… that why that’s my perception and my opinion. I choose to “show love” to black men at all cost. Now if black men dont wanna do the same, ok, that’s on them.

    I do what I want because I see fit too, for every black man that’s not really into black women, there’s always one that is… so I dont worry about it. It is kinda uneasy to understand at times, but it is what it is.

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 12:40:pm

    “Maybe our “definitions” of “showing love” are just different. Do you think it could be that?”

    @ Man I Just…

    From one Brotha to another…..what is your definition of “showing love” (in the context of posting on bossip anyway)? I happen to see where “Nina Knows” is coming from. I was just curious as to where you were going with that.

    C'mon black people

    12/3/08, 12:41:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t care

    Now, c’mon bruh. Cutting yourself open and injecting foreign objects into your body or melting your skin in the sun (which is also why whites age so bad) is more SERIOUS than putting on a wig by any definition. You are reaching.

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:42:pm

    Octavia

    ***** your rules also applies to Serena Williams and Alek Wek. Ugly is ugly. Subjective or not subjective.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:44:pm

    @NINA KNOWS
    “Of course it is… that why that’s my perception and my opinion. I choose to “show love” to black men at all cost. Now if black men dont wanna do the same, ok, that’s on them.

    I do what I want because I see fit too, for every black man that’s not really into black women, there’s always one that is… so I dont worry about it. It is kinda uneasy to understand at times, but it is what it is.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Wait, if you acknowledge the “definition” of “showing love” could differ….

    ..isn’t it possible by THEIR (meaning black men of bossip)”opinion” that they are still “showing love?”

    If their “opinion” of “showing love” differs from yours would you (do you) still respect them?

    Manhattan

    12/3/08, 12:48:pm

    Someone mentioned the Real Chance at Love & the way I see it is those idiots are mental morons the 2 of them corn***** together couldn’t add up to one man of distinction!

    Sistas: Sometimes u have to look at the source of where this black hate comes from. Only low cl***** clown brothas like JD Revenge ect. believes in this foolishness —- AS LONG AS SMART EDUCATED HANDSOME DIGNIFIED brothas like PRESIDENT OBAMA sees the beauty cl***** intelligence & benefits having a real sista like MICHELLE on his arm….. I’m SOO GOOD!!

    Manhattan

    12/3/08, 12:50:pm

    With that being said> I’m Ghost! Sistas I advise yall to do the same cuz you can not argue with a mental midget> You’ll Never Win!!!

    sybil

    12/3/08, 12:53:pm

    @ man I just dont care Thanks

    But Blk women REAlly are the most beautiful, the problem is the Media doesnt display us in that light… Personally I think its jealously. For instance if you c a blk women on the cover of a mag she is Flawless, but a white women can b average or belwow average n grace many covers.. Smh im not brainwashed I know we the BEST.;)

    sybil

    12/3/08, 12:53:pm

    Im single N lookin.. HOlla lol

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 12:54:pm

    @ Nina Knows

    Thanks boo, but there are plenty more. I don’t see myself as the exception as much as the rule. When many people post on here about Black men looking outside their race for a supposed “come up”, they often refer to the (many) celebrities that do, but of ALL people I wish they wouldn’t present them as the poster children for Black men. Their reality is not mine. There are real Brothas doing real things that admire the beauty of a Black woman and appreciate what only SHE could give him…….because at the end of the day beauty is NOT skin deep……it comes from within.

    C'mon black people

    12/3/08, 12:54:pm

    @ JD’s Revenge

    Indeed. So we agree that ugly is ugly and pretty is pretty. The question in THIS post is why there are so many non-black women in black magazines and videos if there ARE pretty black women they could use?

    Btw, does calling someone “*****” online actually accomplish anything?

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 12:57:pm

    Sybil

    Yeah right *****. Say that ***** to Cindy Crawford or Giselle Bundchen. Fine and sexy is in the eyes of the beholder. Has it ever occurred to you that the only reason why some of these *****s feening over your gravie, is because of your fair skin? How confident would yo ***** be if you looked like Whoopie Goldberg?

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 12:58:pm

    @C’MON BLACK PEOPLE
    “Now, c’mon bruh. Cutting yourself open and injecting foreign objects into your body or melting your skin in the sun (which is also why whites age so bad) is more SERIOUS than putting on a wig by any definition. You are reaching”
    _________________________________________________________

    Surgery more “serious” than a wig….. maybe from a physical health stand point because health can be determined from a measurable stand point.

    But the wig vs implants is being referenced for the sake of “beauty.” Which we all know is in the eye of the beholder…

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:04:pm

    Who’s still here? I came across a study on media images of blacks that I would like to share. Hold on a sec. . .

    @Talley-B

    “i wish that black women would date more outside of their race, because this is killing me. at the end of the day, race does not matter!!! we all bleed and die and are going to spend eternity in heaven or hell. please, try something that you haven’t before, you can find something good in all people, so don’t limit yourself!!! ”

    I wish I knew how the meme of “if you want to date members of your own race, you’re limiting yourself” got started. I’m a black woman who prefers to date black men — I, in no way, shape, or form — view that as any sort of “limitation” or “restriction” that is hindering me in some way. To me, the inference behind the sentiment of “limiting yourself” is that somehow one group is not enough — in this case, black women.

    I skimmed through most of the comments, and they’re reminiscent of other conversations on Bossip, and the underlying theme is pain, and, to a degree, rejection. And that’s what I think is getting lost in the discourse.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 13:05:pm

    @SYBIL
    “But Blk women REAlly are the most beautiful, the problem is the Media doesnt display us in that light… Personally I think its jealously. For instance if you c a blk women on the cover of a mag she is Flawless, but a white women can b average or belwow average n grace many covers.. Smh im not brainwashed I know we the BEST.;)”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Oh, you are preaching to the choir babe. I think SOME black women takes the media WAAAAAAY too seriously when it comes to how they THINK black men view them.

    The vast majority of black men marry black women and it has always been that way.

    Don’t be talkin bout “I’m single and lookin. HOLLA” cause you just might hear me yellin if you tune in.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 13:06:pm

    @SYDNEY
    ” skimmed through most of the comments, and they’re reminiscent of other conversations on Bossip, and the underlying theme is pain, and, to a degree, rejection. And that’s what I think is getting lost in the discourse”
    ________________________________________________________

    elaborate…

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:09:pm

    Here are some facts from the book, “The Black Image in the White Mind,” which looks at the portrayal of black men and women in the media, versus white men and women. Please pardon the length:

    “The Black Image in the White Mind” – a wonderful book and multiple award winner, written by Robert M. Entman and Andrew Rojecki, discusses the effects of life in a segregated society. It offers a comprehensive look at the intricate and subtle racial patterns in the m***** media and discusses how these powerful images play a significant role in shaping the attitudes of Whites toward Blacks. White Americans, they show, learn about African Americans not through personal relationships, but through the images shown by the media. In addition, they reveal a subtle pattern of images that communicates a racial hierarchy (with Whites on top) and promotes a sense of difference and conflict.

    Entman and Rojecki illustrate how the television news focus on black poverty and crime is grossly out of proportion with the reality of black life, how use of black ‘experts’ is limited to ‘black-themed’ issues, and how ‘black politics’ are often distorted in the news. In short, they conclude that although there are more images of African-Americans on television now than ever, these images are often harmful to the prospect of unity between the races.

    A brief summary of some of their findings are listed below:

    A mug shot of a Black defendant is 4 times more likely to appear in a local television news report than of a White defendant

    The accused is 2 times more likely to be shown physically restrained in a local television news report than when the accused is White

    The name of the accused is 2 times more likely to be shown on screen in a local TV news report if the defendant is Black, rather than White

    “Telegenic” figures aren’t always the most representative leaders though they are presented as if they were. Some statistics from 1994:

    40% of Black adults stated that Jesse Jackson represents Black people “very well”

    Only 11% of Black adults stated that Louis Farrakhan represents Black people “very well”

    22% of Black adults stated they had “never heard of” Louis Farrakhan

    Stories about, or soundbites from, Jesse Jackson on ABC World News: 13 versus stories about, or soundbites from, Louis Farrakhan on ABC World News: 25

    The media sowed discord during the affirmative action debate of the 1990s despite the considerable common ground between Blacks and Whites. Reporters often predicted affirmative action would be one of the key issues in the 1996 election because of the “rage” among Whites.

    A mere 1% percent of survey respondents named affirmative action as their top priority in voting against a presidential candidate

    61% percent of White men (“angry” or not) favored affirmative action programs as is or with reforms

    76% percent of White women favored affirmative action programs as is or with reforms

    Somehow only 12.5% percent of White “persons on the street” were shown to support affirmative action in a sample of network news, while the percentage shown to oppose was 87.5%

    While Black actors are now more visible in films, it is an open question as to how well they are being represented. Compare, for example, how Blacks and Whites are portrayed in the top movies of 1996.

    Black female movie characters shown using vulgar profanity: 89%

    White female movie characters shown using vulgar profanity: 17%

    Black female movie characters shown being physically violent: 56%

    White female movie characters shown being physically violent: 11%

    Black female movie characters shown being restrained: 55%

    White female movie characters shown being restrained: 6%

    Pynk (my boss is watching me like a hawk so I can only Bossip on my breaks now =-(

    12/3/08, 13:14:pm

    WHERE O WHERE O WHERE IS TINY?

    Raquel26

    12/3/08, 13:17:pm

    @Sydney:

    I liked that! Way to educate the people. From everyday experiences, I’ve noticed most of this stuff. It’s good to kinda get a feel for what other people think (statistically).

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 13:19:pm

    @SYDNEY

    Oh, we are in agreement with the portrayl of blacks in relation to whites and how that effects perception.

    The question is whether the “portrayl” of black women has an effect on the dating habits of black men.

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 13:21:pm

    black women is beautiful, ” the most beautifuliest thing in ths world” *in my keith murray voice* the come in all shades unlike other nationalities. i don’t think black men choose white women or latins asians over black women, it’s just like raquel26 said she get’s more respect from other nationalities, if you have bad experiences with black women you try something else what’s the difference between her giving up on brothers opposed to brothers giving up on sisters? Me personally i have know color line if she treats me like i want to be treated and up to the standards i require i want chose race over love, luckily i have a beautiful black woman for 2 yrs. so far so good…jmo

    Stupid Celebrities Gossip » Crazy links for Wednesday 12/3/08

    12/3/08, 13:21:pm

    [...] TI on the cover of black magazine – Bossip [...]

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 13:23:pm

    okay, first off, it goes to show how narrowe-minded you are “nina knows” and “c’mon black people”….
    if you believe that every black man has a preference for something other than you , then you are a little slow. WE LIKE ALL FEATURES ON EVERY WOMAN!!! POINT BLANK!! it’s as simple as that. that’s one problem that woemn in general have, you literally read too much into *****. it’s not that hard, we love *****, we love booty’s, we like thighs, we like legs. whatever the hell you want to BELIEVE, go ahead, becaus ethe ***** isn’t gonna change. now i will tell you this: keep running your mouth about how much black men are coons, we don’t support yall, and all that other *****, and you damn right black men won’t respect yall and yall won’t be desired. what’s so desirable about being called a coon, *****, unsupportive. i don’t, because the ***** is stupid. i’m stand behind my black woman (yes, my lady is black) everyday, and if it ever came to the point that she believes that i don’t support her and i clearly do, i’m not staying around for that. so women dig yuor own graves sometimes. like i said. if you feel as though black men are screwind you over, date other people, find somebody that doesnt treat you right, because i’m staying around for you verbal bull*****, and lot of other men won’t, whether they are black or white….

    bay girl

    12/3/08, 13:23:pm

    They are both pretty but the chinese one looks like she used to be a mand when she was younger

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:24:pm

    @Man

    “” skimmed through most of the comments, and they’re reminiscent of other conversations on Bossip, and the underlying theme is pain, and, to a degree, rejection. And that’s what I think is getting lost in the discourse”
    ________________________________________________________

    elaborate. . .”

    Sure. I actually came across a blog thread recently on interracial dating (the blog’s audience is a mix), and some of the black women posters commented on the unspoken loyalty contract that sisters have in relation to their relationships to brothers. They feel a strong connection to them that deters from looking “outside.”

    Therefore, when a brother encourages sisters to open themselves to other races, it’s a smack in the face to many because to a number of black women, their ideal mate has, and always will be, black men. There is a degree of historical perspective that ties into this — if you look back over centuries, black women have been involved in interracial relationships, but they were forced. My great-great grandfather was a white slave master who fathered a son with a great-great grandmother and sold him off while keeping his mother. This scenario occurred in many of our families.

    I believe a number of sisters are keenly aware of the divisions that were created through the bonds of slavery and want to keep the relationship with black men alive and intact. Not to mention, we’re just attracted to brothers, physically and mentally, and feel that bond is stronger than that we could create with men of other races (or in my opinion.) Thus, when we are told we’re undesireable by men who share our complexion, it is, indeed, a rejection, and with rejection comes pain.

    Now I’ve seen first-hand on Bossip how that pain can manifest into anger, as with certain posters who shall remain nameless (but we know whom I’m talking about), and I think there’s an unspoken sense of “why don’t our own men want us?” that permeates through some of our discussions. We know that Eurocentric society doesn’t view us as “beautiful,” but when we feel that brothers echo that same thought, suddenly, it seems the whole world has turned against us. In the past, through the worst tide of Jim Crow and discrimination, brothers and sisters had each other for support and validation.

    It’s not that I think the sister who rails against black men hates them — I think, she, in fact, loves them and feels some deeper emotion that is not being adequately or appropriately expressed.

    I hope this makes sense.

    bay girl

    12/3/08, 13:24:pm

    *man* ^^^

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 13:26:pm

    and to sydney, it is limiting your options, black people can be a preference, but it’s not all that’s out there either. now if you want to only date black men, that’s whats up. i’m not mad, but i’m telling you, gold doesn’t just come in black wrapping. so please, QUIT LIMITING YOUR PREFERNCES!!! THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT….

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 13:29:pm

    @ Syd

    Nice post. I love numbers……they paint a vivid picture and don’t lie.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:34:pm

    @Man

    “The question is whether the “portrayl” of black women has an effect on the dating habits of black men.”

    Let’s start with the visions of beauty of black women in popular culture. It’s no secret that a number of us are conditioned to think that blackness is somehow inferior or unattractive. Thus, some feel — subconsciously in some cases — that a darker-toned woman, for example, is less desireable than a lighter-toned woman. I think someone mentioned the impact of music videos earlier, and I see the effects of colorism clearly in the steady stream of women who look like carbon copies.

    If you’re a person who lacks a sense of social/cultural conditioning, there’s no question that the constant bombarding of certain “types” as beautiful is bound to affect your own perception of what’s pretty or what’s not.

    People other than African Americans are also impacted by the Eurocentric view of beauty. There are Asian women who have surgery performed on their eyes to make them larger, African women who use skin iighteners, and Latinas who view themselves as unattractive if they have a darker skin tone.

    black colour

    12/3/08, 13:36:pm

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    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:39:pm

    Hi Raquel26, Illuminate :)

    @Talley-B

    “QUIT LIMITING YOUR PREFERNCES!!! THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT….”

    That’s what I’m trying to explain you — You, as a man, may view it as “limiting,” but a number of sisters do not. They see everything they want and desire in their black brothers. They want to marry a man like their father who will share a common heritage and struggle. To these women, the reverse may be true — It would be consider “limiting” to date men of other races because the bond would be weaker and the understanding would not be the same. It’s not about being anti-white, anti-Asian, or what have you, it’s about being with the mate who best reflects you.

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 13:41:pm

    @ sydney

    i feel where you coming from.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 13:42:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “We know that Eurocentric society doesn’t view us as “beautiful,” but when we feel that brothers echo that same thought, suddenly, it seems the whole world has turned against us. In the past, through the worst tide of Jim Crow and discrimination, brothers and sisters had each other for support and validation.

    It’s not that I think the sister who rails against black men hates them — I think, she, in fact, loves them and feels some deeper emotion that is not being adequately or appropriately expressed.

    I hope this makes sense.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    No, it makes a lot of sense to me.

    I think the problem is this “when we feel that brothers echo that same thought.” Only individuals can control or change how they “feel” about something. I’m glad you put numbers up in a previous post. Again, the majority of black men date and marry black women.

    Why are black women so sensitive to the thoughts and actions of so few black men??????

    It’s funny you think the sister that “rails” agaisnt black men “in fact loves them” and has not “appropriatley expressed” it. Don’t you think the same can be said for some of the brothers on here that make detrimental comments about black women?

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:44:pm

    When I hear brothers say “we don’t care if you date outside, in fact, we encourage it,” I hear, we don’t really want you, so do what you want. That’s why there’s this visceral reaction that often turns a discussion into a vitriolic argument in which nothing is resolved.

    Men and women communicate differently — When a sister says “brothers don’t support us,” what she means is that she wants to be told and shown by black men that they truly love us.

    We’re putting each other on the defensive when the lines of communication could flow more smoothly.

    At least that’s my take.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 13:45:pm

    i think ti is cute because he doesnt go into over kill like the rest of the rappers… you will see him in suits sometimes, he doesnt wear grills or alot of gawdy jewelry, (he leaves that up to Tiny)
    he getting his grown man own since his lil ***** got into trouble and he might be starting to get a lil cute

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:50:pm

    @Man

    “Why are black women so sensitive to the thoughts and actions of so few black men??????”

    Because it feels that it comes from more than a “few” black men, and perhaps there aren’t enough positive comments to counter the negativity. When a certain poster goes off on one of her tirades, I’ve noticed that more than one sister quickly jumps in to oppose her statements. I think some sisters would like the same defense struck in their favor when they’re the target of negative generalizations.

    “It’s funny you think the sister that “rails” agaisnt black men “in fact loves them” and has not “appropriatley expressed” it. Don’t you think the same can be said for some of the brothers on here that make detrimental comments about black women?”

    Yes, I definitely think there are some brothers on here who feel that they have been wronged by sisters in some way, and their anger is indicative of a deeper emotion. I know some men tend to use anger as a mask for pain (as do some women).

    I think I’ve ststed on this board before that if we — meaning black men and women — hated each other so much, we would’t converse at all. We wouldn’t care what the other thought or said. We care because we care about each other.

    JD's Revenge

    12/3/08, 13:50:pm

    I knew it. All you black *****es is battling yo DADDY ISSUES. Get over it and date who ever deciddes to give yo ***** the time of day. No skin off my *****.

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 13:50:pm

    and see, that’s what i’m saying, that’s my point. you don’t know your soulmate is and where they are from, until you are actually with them. black women on here are blaming the black men, but in honesty, they are the ones who are cheating themselves. i know that they look at it in another light, but tell me this: if you look at a frog in the front, and look ar in the back, does that mean that the frog is going to change to a chicken??? no!!! women can’t so narrow sighted, you have to see stuff for what it actually is. that is the ONLY way that you find true love, i repeat, the ONLY way. and you know what??? women on here are acting like it’s no good black men anymore!!! it’s a lot of them, but if you looking for a good black man inside a man with a habit, one that has a history of cheating on his girl, and constantly calls his women a *****, then 9 times out of 10, you are going to be disappointed. that’s like going outside while it’s raining and not expecting to get wet. and one more thing. I love black love, but i am also open to other love. there’s nothing wrong with it. is it true that just because a black man is with a white woman means that he thinks his black mother and black women are ugly. hell no. he just found what he was personally looking for. it’s not always the case that when a black man is with another race, that he deosn’t have love for his on kind. that’s not even logical….

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 13:51:pm

    @snoop bloggy blog

    “@ sydney

    i feel where you coming from.”

    Good, I hope this makes some sense.

    roosevelt taylor

    12/3/08, 13:52:pm

    TI got that yung berg mentatality

    Spcl0ne2

    12/3/08, 13:57:pm

    I am so tired of women being portrayed as pieces of azz all the time. Damn put your clothes on ladies! I bet the whole world must think black women’s wardrobes consist of just bra’s panties and swimwear. geez

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 13:58:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Let’s start with the visions of beauty of black women in popular culture. It’s no secret that a number of us are conditioned to think that blackness is somehow inferior or unattractive. Thus, some feel — subconsciously in some cases — that a darker-toned woman, for example, is less desireable than a lighter-toned woman. I think someone mentioned the impact of music videos earlier, and I see the effects of colorism clearly in the steady stream of women who look like carbon copies.

    If you’re a person who lacks a sense of social/cultural conditioning, there’s no question that the constant bombarding of certain “types” as beautiful is bound to affect your own perception of what’s pretty or what’s not.

    People other than African Americans are also impacted by the Eurocentric view of beauty. There are Asian women who have surgery performed on their eyes to make them larger, African women who use skin iighteners, and Latinas who view themselves as unattractive if they have a darker skin tone.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    Um…. ok. Skin whitening didn’t start with the dominance of the European contintent. Think of the Asian “Geisha” girls. Women of the middle east have been using hydroquinone since before European arrived as well.

    Do you think anything can be “universally” attractive? (universally is debatable)

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 14:02:pm

    @ sydney
    whats up lil sis
    are you kicking knowledge today or what

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 14:03:pm

    *stated* Please pardon the typos

    @Talley-B

    “it’s not always the case that when a black man is with another race, that he deosn’t have love for his on kind. that’s not even logical….”

    But, you know, there are brothers — and some sisters — who deliberately, and actively, reject their “own kind.”

    There are also brothers and sisters who find genuine love with individuals who happen to be a different race, and I wish happiness to anyone who finds it. But when a person feels the need to demean members of his/her own race to justify his/her choice, that’s where the conflict ensues. If a man says he dates white women because he thinks black women are uattractive and unruly (and has no problem publicizing it), that speaks to a deeper issue. The same goes for sisters. And this could all stem from a place of hurt, and, in that case, there should be a recognition and focus on healing. Because if you’re not a whole person emotionally, how can you be the best mate for anyone, regardless of race?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 14:04:pm

    @ sydney
    whats up lil sis
    are you kicking knowledge today or what

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 14:04:pm

    I just wanted to add that I think dark skin is hottt. On men and women.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 14:05:pm

    @ osh
    whats up girl
    whats going on today, are we all being civalized,
    i like the new gravie with your come ***** me school girl outfit on

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 14:07:pm

    Oh shay shay, you know that is not really me.

    I will put the one of me up if it is in popular demand though.

    And going back to the convo, I also wanted to note that even as a young – white – girl I remember in movies featuring a black man as the lead, such as Eddie Murphy, he always falls for a very light-skinned woman. This always made me wonder.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 14:07:pm

    Wait, if you acknowledge the “definition” of “showing love” could differ….

    ..isn’t it possible by THEIR (meaning black men of bossip)”opinion” that they are still “showing love?”

    If their “opinion” of “showing love” differs from yours would you (do you) still respect them?
    ________________________________________________
    To answer your LAST question: Clearly you know what disrespect is, or are we gonna play the perception game. If some black men want to admire beauty of non-black women, please do so. But it doesnt require distain, disrespect or hate toward black women to do it. All the sistas were saying was SOME black men tend to favor non-black women more then their own. It is disrespectful to tell black women you dont like how they wear weave, but not acknowledge the fact that ALL races of women do to. Then go as far to justify it as a prefrence when clearly you are just being an *****.

    What are YOUR perceptions on the subject? You tend to disect what the sistas are saying for some unknown reason. I clearly defended black people, peroid. Im not for someone putting all black men/women into one catagory. And *****uming your black, I was defending you as well. I dont see you copying and pasteing any of the males comments and questioning them as to why they DONT like black women.

    Why so concerned with the women on here speaking up for the betterment of our people as a whole. Seems pretty bias to me.

    If you cant give info, opinions, rant, ravs, positives, negatives, or just a ***** you, I care for you not to address me. Now I can converse or debate with you all day, but asking questions without any input is not gonna fly. All your subliminal side taking and judging is not cool.

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    12/3/08, 14:07:pm

    Ok, falling back now…

    MZ DAZED AND CONFUSED

    12/3/08, 14:11:pm

    CHICK ON THE RIGHT LOOK LIKE MY BESTIE NANCY..BUT DAMN TI SO IF I SEE U ON THE ROAD THEN….

    NIKKI UNDERWOOD

    12/3/08, 14:12:pm

    Oshie – freak ho freak ho touch your knees to your elbows

    its…

    Bounce ya ***** let ya knees touch ya elbows…that is all I have to say…that is if that was the Master P version….

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 14:13:pm

    *unattractive*

    @Man

    “Um…. ok. Skin whitening didn’t start with the dominance of the European contintent. Think of the Asian “Geisha” girls. Women of the middle east have been using hydroquinone since before European arrived as well.

    Do you think anything can be “universally” attractive? (universally is debatable)”

    Skin whitening may not have started with European dominance, but the Eurocentric standard of beauty certainly plays into the decision of a number of women to physically alter their appearance. I also read a news article recently about the prolific use of lighter-toned models in advertising in India. Those with lighter skin are considered to be more attractive.

    “Do you think anything can be “universally” attractive? (universally is debatable)”

    Interesting question. I don’t know if there’s any “universal” characteristic of beauty, but I do think the Eurocetric standards is considered dominant, i.e. lighter skin, thinner nose, hair of a certain length and texture, etc. And popular culture reflects these images — Most romantic leads in movies/TV shows are white women.

    Going back to the media study numbers posted above, not only are black women not as visible in popular media as models of beauty — The images that do exist are overwhelmingly negative, i.e. the loud sister who uses co***** language and displays unladylike behavior.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 14:15:pm

    Talley-B

    okay, first off, it goes to show how narrowe-minded you are “nina knows” and “c’mon black people”….
    if you believe that every black man has a preference for something other than you , then you are a little slow. WE LIKE ALL FEATURES ON EVERY WOMAN!!! POINT BLANK!! it’s as simple as that. that’s one problem that woemn in general have, you literally read too much into *****. it’s not that hard, we love *****, we love booty’s, we like thighs, we like legs. whatever the hell you want to BELIEVE, go ahead, becaus ethe ***** isn’t gonna change. now i will tell you this: keep running your mouth about how much black men are coons, we don’t support yall, and all that other *****, and you damn right black men won’t respect yall and yall won’t be desired. what’s so desirable about being called a coon, *****, unsupportive. i don’t, because the ***** is stupid. i’m stand behind my black woman (yes, my lady is black) everyday, and if it ever came to the point that she believes that i don’t support her and i clearly do, i’m not staying around for that. so women dig yuor own graves sometimes. like i said. if you feel as though black men are screwind you over, date other people, find somebody that doesnt treat you right, because i’m staying around for you verbal bull*****, and lot of other men won’t, whether they are black or white….
    _________________________________________________
    First off what are you talking about… I never named called all black men nothing. Go back boy, because I never called someone a ***** or a coon. You talking about how you like all features on women, that’s you. Because real men like a women for more than the physical. I guess it doesnt matter what she’s like or if she’s even clean if your ***** has a banging body, that’s good enough for you. Dont put me in your stupid catagory because I was clearly supporting the black men on here, just not the *****s. Going by what you just said I can see you fit right along with the rest of the *****s…… smh.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 14:18:pm

    Hey Shay!

    @Osh

    “And going back to the convo, I also wanted to note that even as a young – white – girl I remember in movies featuring a black man as the lead, such as Eddie Murphy, he always falls for a very light-skinned woman. This always made me wonder.”

    LOL, in this case, it may be art imitating life — or maybe the reverse — because, as long as I can recall, Eddie has always dated mostly lighter-skinned women. And, yes, most of his romantic leads were of a certain complexion — but he’s not the only one. I think Denzel is one of the few actors I’ve seen with black women of varying hues.

    Film

    12/3/08, 14:19:pm

    The problem with ‘some’ black men/women is that they hold their spouses accountable for their relationship failures, instead of taking responsibility themselves as well. They don’t extirpate/eradicate past, subjective experiences; some take these pessimistic, mental and physiological thoughts into new relationships, rather than dealing with their frustrations and severely, deep wounds. The key is learning how to alleviate/mitigate pains before becoming involved with the next significant other. This could result in a healthy, lasting relationship, and an interpersonal connection.

    Then there’s the self-loathing black man that acts as if he’s suffering from extreme need or anxiety to be noticed by people of other races, rather than his own. They look in the mirror and hate their visible reflections, so, they deviate from women that have similar physical attributes that they do indeed possess, and intense hostility proceeds or arises, resulting in the abasement/vitiation amongst their counterparts. They also define pulchritude as European features (nose, hair, eyes, etc.), and anything other than this is unacceptable, not prominent, and spurious in their own eyes. My tolerance level is extremely low for self-abhorring individuals.

    Nina Knows (What’s up?)

    ‘But if your black and dont find other blacks of the opposite sex attractive, I find that to be a little disturbing. If a black man is digusted by black women, what does he think of his mother or black women in his family?’

    My mom doesn’t have any daughters, and I wonder how she would feel if my brother and I were intolerant of black women, but that’s definitely not happening. I definitely agree with you.

    Sydney (What’s up?)

    ‘When I hear brothers say “we don’t care if you date outside, in fact, we encourage it,” I hear, we don’t really want you, so do what you want. That’s why there’s this visceral reaction that often turns a discussion into a vitriolic argument in which nothing is resolved.’

    That’s exactly what it is.

    Crazy links for Wednesday 12/3/08

    12/3/08, 14:21:pm

    [...] TI on the cover of black magazine – Bossip [...]

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 14:22:pm

    “LOL, in this case, it may be art imitating life — or maybe the reverse — because, as long as I can recall, Eddie has always dated mostly lighter-skinned women. And, yes, most of his romantic leads were of a certain complexion — but he’s not the only one. I think Denzel is one of the few actors I’ve seen with black women of varying hues.”

    Johnny Gill isn’t that light skinned.

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho Bounce ya ***** let ya knees touch ya elbows (c) Master P, ref. Nikki Underwood 2008

    12/3/08, 14:25:pm

    @ Sydney, well you know most of the time Denzel and Eddie didn’t do their own casting (with the exception of Eddie probably, sometimes). Hollywood usually pairs a dark complected man with a light complected woman. It surely influences the way we perceive beauty, which is not as universal as you think. If it was we would all be wearing those giant Ndebele neck rings that they wear in Africa, or we’d all be scarring our faces, etc. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I truly believe that a lot of this light skinned/ dark skinned crap goes back to Midevil european standards where having fair skin meant that you had the luxury of sitting inside all day as opposed to the common people who had to work in the sun. Kind of like a social-cl***** thing. But there is something to be said to that effect about fairer skin being feminine because the men would be outside working more than the women, or skin being likened to youth. But now you have white people killing themselves with tanning beds so who knows. We’re all *****ed in the head. I say do what pleases you.

    Film

    12/3/08, 14:29:pm

    Illuminate Truth

    ‘Johnny Gill isn’t that light skinned.’

    LOLOL.

    *Take care people. I’m out.

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 14:30:pm

    “LOL, in this case, it may be art imitating life — or maybe the reverse — because, as long as I can recall, Eddie has always dated mostly lighter-skinned women. And, yes, most of his romantic leads were of a certain complexion — but he’s not the only one. I think Denzel is one of the few actors I’ve seen with black women of varying hues.”

    Johnny Gill isn’t that light skinned
    ______________________________________
    @ illuminate truth

    LMFAO, you wrong fam ( can’t stop laughing)

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 14:31:pm

    @ Talley-B

    I was posting as Come on Black People because the site was trippin for a second. lol

    I am not crying woe is me for a second. I am currently in a relationship with a beautiful black man (my pookie bear). But I do see that in there is something up in the black community. Yes, the majority of black men marry black women and vice versa. But the staggering statistic that black men are involved in over 70% of interracial marriages in the US and that the likelihood of a black man marrying outside his race increases with his SES is disturbing. The fact that so many black media outlets (magazines, ads, videos) feature women with european features is disturbing. NO other race or culture shows a PREFERENCE for others… why is that?

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 14:34:pm

    @ Film.. Hey you, whut up!

    and as usual you came on with it. Very good post.
    I’ve been saying alot of the times it not even a race issue, but just the fact that you should personally check the situation. Sometime when a man/woman do you wrong, its not because of what race you are. But because you *****ed a dumb***** INDIVIDUAL.

    But yes, there still are some self-hating *****s out there though. of BOTH genders. (just scroll up) lol

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 14:35:pm

    LMAO @ Illuminate

    Eddie’s going to get you for that! *two snaps in a circle*

    @Film

    “The problem with ‘some’ black men/women is that they hold their spouses accountable for their relationship failures, instead of taking responsibility themselves as well. They don’t extirpate/eradicate past, subjective experiences; some take these pessimistic, mental and physiological thoughts into new relationships, rather than dealing with their frustrations and severely, deep wounds. The key is learning how to alleviate/mitigate pains before becoming involved with the next significant other. This could result in a healthy, lasting relationship, and an interpersonal connection.”

    Agreed — You can’t take the “ghosts” into a new relationship, and if you’re feeling the pangs of unresolved emotions, it’s time to address those residual feelings. Or the perfect time to listen closely to Erykah’s “Bag Lady.” Pack light. . .

    @Oshie

    Have you heard of the house slave vs. field slave paradigm?

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 14:35:pm

    @Illuminate Truth

    hahhahahahahahaahahahahaha

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 14:36:pm

    @ Nina

    “If a black man is digusted by black women, what does he think of his mother or black women in his family?”

    That’s what I want to know, too. And how do the moms and sisters react to a black male in their family who primarily dates outside his race?

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 14:40:pm

    @Illuminate Truth… damn that was funny, who knew you were a comedian! lol

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 14:41:pm

    nina knows,

    first off, i never actually said that you said any of the stuff, YOU need to go back and read. and it’s nothing wrong with liking physical features, but i never said that was the only thing that i like, so please stop being so ignorant and taking my words out of context. thank you….now move along, dumb*****

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 14:42:pm

    @NINA KNOWS
    “To answer your LAST question: Clearly you know what disrespect is, or are we gonna play the perception game. If some black men want to admire beauty of non-black women, please do so. But it doesnt require distain, disrespect or hate toward black women to do it. All the sistas were saying was SOME black men tend to favor non-black women more then their own. It is disrespectful to tell black women you dont like how they wear weave, but not acknowledge the fact that ALL races of women do to. Then go as far to justify it as a prefrence when clearly you are just being an *****.

    What are YOUR perceptions on the subject? You tend to disect what the sistas are saying for some unknown reason. I clearly defended black people, peroid. Im not for someone putting all black men/women into one catagory. And *****uming your black, I was defending you as well. I dont see you copying and pasteing any of the males comments and questioning them as to why they DONT like black women.

    Why so concerned with the women on here speaking up for the betterment of our people as a whole. Seems pretty bias to me.

    If you cant give info, opinions, rant, ravs, positives, negatives, or just a ***** you, I care for you not to address me. Now I can converse or debate with you all day, but asking questions without any input is not gonna fly. All your subliminal side taking and judging is not cool.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Maybe the black men that comment on the black women wearing weave is because they don’t like for them to wear weaves. You know how people have the audacity to say their “opinion” and stuff on a blog.

    What are MY perception in what aspect? Do I think black men “prefer” non-black women as a whole? Some yes but as a whole no. Do I think that “society” has influenced black men not to appreciate black beauty? they attempted and failed.

    I rarely comment to black men on here mainly because I don’t care what their opinions are for the most part. I’m not interested in Black men.

    i asked questions to gain a better understanding. Perhaps you did notice a “bias.” If you did there isn’t anything I can do about that.

    What you find “cool” and what you “care for” is your problem. If you don’t want to talk, that’s your decision. Again, I asked questions to gain an understanding because I MAY be wrong. As “Nina Knows,” *****ody knows everything.

    Oshie - freak ho freak ho Bounce ya ***** let ya knees touch ya elbows (c) Master P, ref. Nikki Underwood 2008

    12/3/08, 14:44:pm

    @ Sydney: No but I can figure it out by it’s title.

    You can take that perspective but you can also take dark skin to represent vitality and health. Dark skin = more melanin = better muscle tone and skin tone. Scientific fact.

    I don’t know. I’m going to fall back on this one. Again…

    *falling back*

    woe

    12/3/08, 14:45:pm

    When it all comes down to it, it more about superficalality. Mindless people tend to follow trends rather than critically thinking and evaluating their choices and options. If mixed asian and multiracial women are the trend, then the mindless individual will go for that rather then getting to know the person. They have no true self definition or distinction. The black men magazine are no dummies they realize that what’s marketable sells. It’s sad that they are capalizing off of ignorant and socially unconscious indiviuals to make bucks. But hey that is capitalism. I mean you couldn’t sell these magazines to people who critical evaulate life because they would have so many questions for why this and why that is on the cover. My thing is not get angry but become aware and eduacate the m*****es

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 14:45:pm

    and to sydney…
    i said that it’s not always the case, i was trying to leave the room for the people that actually do date outside of their race becuause they don’t like black folks. so i’m on the same page….

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 14:47:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Going back to the media study numbers posted above, not only are black women not as visible in popular media as models of beauty — The images that do exist are overwhelmingly negative, i.e. the loud sister who uses co***** language and displays unladylike behavior”
    _________________________________________________________

    Ok. …. and because of this negative portrayl it has effected….what?

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 14:50:pm

    @ Talley B

    “Do I think that “society” has influenced black men not to appreciate black beauty? they attempted and failed”

    How do you figure? Looks to me like they did a damn good job. Are you seriously saying that our culture does not value lighter, brighter, european features, and “good hair”?

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 14:53:pm

    @OCTAVIA
    “How do you figure? Looks to me like they did a damn good job. Are you seriously saying that our culture does not value lighter, brighter, european features, and “good hair”?”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Do some in our culture (as other cultures do as well) value “brighter skin” and “good hair?” Yes.

    Yet the same culture still overwhelming date and marry each other and considered being called “white” an insult.

    Txhustla15 (Austin's Finest)

    12/3/08, 14:55:pm

    Haha whats all the fuss for a magazine thats commonly found on the floor of bathroom stalls and dusty barbershops/salons every so often in county hospitals

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 14:56:pm

    octavia,

    i didn’t say that comment, but however, i will answer it. we love black beauty, but like i said before, we appreciate ALL beauty…..whether the features are of another race or not. hell, if a alien came down here, and if she was on point, then we are going say that she’s on point. like i said earlier, we are not that difficult, we are simple. if we see something we like, we will admit that we like it…..

    Txhustla15 (Austin's Finest)

    12/3/08, 14:56:pm

    Oh heh and on base..

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 14:56:pm

    @Oshie

    “Hollywood usually pairs a dark complected man with a light complected woman. It surely influences the way we perceive beauty, which is not as universal as you think.”

    You’re right on both counts. Oprah actually did a very interresting show recently on how beauty is perceived across the world, and she talked with women about what is considered attractive in their countries. The beauty “tips” ranged from jewelry and other adornments to skin whitening and hair extensions (other countries, not the U.S.) to one country in Africa (I forgot the name) where overweight women are actually considered the most attractive, so women actually intentionally overeat to gain weight (I think this shocked everyone in the audience, including Oprah).

    “You can take that perspective but you can also take dark skin to represent vitality and health. Dark skin = more melanin = better muscle tone and skin tone. Scientific fact.”

    Oh, I don’t doubt this. You probably already heard the saying, “black doesn’t crack.”

    On the history of house slaves and field slaves, this refers to the different cl*****es of men and women during slavery. Slaves who worked in the fields were considered to be of lower status than slaves who worked in the house. House slaves tended to be the children of slave masters, which generated a sense of superiority that, centuries later, still affects color divisions within the black community.

    Anyone care to add to this?

    wifey06

    12/3/08, 14:57:pm

    I hate fakers. his azz know he with Tiny ugly ***** and not these chicks… Keep it real mfer!!! I wish the real men would stand up and get noticed for real!!!

    Lil ***** ***** acting like he like that.. bunch of bull*****!!!!!!!!!

    All of them are fake and will never get money!!

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 14:59:pm

    All I can say is Willie Lynch was on point….

    wifey06

    12/3/08, 15:00:pm

    We black women should really get out of the box. Majority of the men with power nad money are of anohter race or nationality.. we choose to keep chasing the same ole broke ***** tired men ( not me my hubby is like that but ya know been there done that).

    Upgrade your standards and eliminate race factor out the equation or keep walking around *****ed.

    Octavia

    12/3/08, 15:02:pm

    @ Man, I just don’t care:
    “Do some in our culture (as other cultures do as well) value “brighter skin” and “good hair?” Yes.

    Yet the same culture still overwhelming date and marry each other and considered being called “white” an insult.”

    Touche… UNTIL we get some money. When you look at the upper SES levels, you see sky-rocketing rates of interracial marriage.

    Look, I’m not saying that ALL black men feel this way. I’m just saying that far too many do. The reason I’m *****ed about this mag cover is that it is playing into the self-hate nonsense. I think all of us are guilty of letting our media play us against each other like this. So actually sent a letter to the editor by email. I also make a conscious effort to avoid shows and not support artists that promote this kinda nonsense (Yung Berg).

    @ Talley
    My bad. I thought that was yours.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:03:pm

    @Man

    “Do some in our culture (as other cultures do as well) value “brighter skin” and “good hair?” Yes.”

    So conditioning has worked on a certain level in our community (I actually think many more brothers and sisters are affected by it than you may see).

    ““Going back to the media study numbers posted above, not only are black women not as visible in popular media as models of beauty — The images that do exist are overwhelmingly negative, i.e. the loud sister who uses co***** language and displays unladylike behavior”
    _________________________________________________________

    Ok. …. and because of this negative portrayl it has effected….what?”

    Brother, are you saying that the negative portrayal of black women hasn’t seeped into our daily lives and perceptions? I’m going to refer you to some of the posts on this very blog.

    Heck, Michelle Obama had to battle the “Angry Black Woman” label during the campaign, and she wasn’t even running for office. Cindy McCain has much more dirt on her — and it has been reported in the past — yet Michelle, an Ivy League grad, wife, and mother who has never made waves in the national press before, was demonized.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 15:03:pm

    Im of a lighter overall skin tone, but my ***** got a whole lot of melanine….

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 15:05:pm

    I met this blcak guy who told me that i was the only black female he was trying to talk to? I was like, then im not even interested in a man that thinks that dating a black woman is a isolated event wtf???? Im sorry but I never heard or barely heard a white men talking ***** about a wite woman! I live in Europe and i have lots of white friends! Never once! Asian men go crazy for asian girls! Even arabian guys prefer their own! amn the blck man is so brainwashed! It is so sad! You can find another race attrative, and even date them or whatever but when you cannot see a sista that atracts you! something is missing!!! God creates different races of men and create their own respective other! Why is that the black men don’t get! How black men are going to criticize a sista with nappy hair but down her because she is going to get a weave!!! But when aw hite girl is having cornrows, I don’t see *****ody talking!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:06:pm

    @Talley-B

    “and to sydney…
    i said that it’s not always the case, i was trying to leave the room for the people that actually do date outside of their race becuause they don’t like black folks. so i’m on the same page….”

    Gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 15:07:pm

    @ osh
    damn im late sue looked like you

    ill have to copy that outfit when my hubby and i role play

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 15:09:pm

    if you define beauty off videos, mags,etc you are narrow minded, when i was in kindergarten i knew my likes and dislikes and sesame street had nothing to do with it. Yeah you subject to see a black man with a white woman more than a black woman with a white man, but it’s still a small percentage. black love haven’t died

    OBAMAmix

    12/3/08, 15:10:pm

    WHENEVER MIXED BLACK PEOPLE BECOME SUCCESSFUL WE CLAIM EM.. HALLE, THE ROCK, OBAMA ETC..HILARIOUS.. BUT WHEN THEY MESS UP THEY THE OTHER SIDE..HAHA.. GIRL ON LEFT CHANTA (BLACK) LIKE TINY. GIRL ON RITE DAPHNE (PUERTO RICAN/philliPINO) BOTH MINORITY. NOW GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND MAKE SUM MONEY DUMMIES. ps PUT UP A REAL PICTURE OF YA’SELF…AHH ***** CHANGES NOW. TRUTH IS LIE..

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:11:pm

    Lord have mercy, Redd. . .*SMH*

    @I Love My Dark Kin

    “How black men are going to criticize a sista with nappy hair but down her because she is going to get a weave!!! But when aw hite girl is having cornrows, I don’t see *****ody talking!”

    I actually wanted to get into the weave issue, and you brougt up a point that was mulling around in my mind. I think some sisters invest in hair extensions because they have been conditioned to — and told — that men find long hair attractive.

    Since you’re in Europe, can you share more of your experiences? You’re not the first sister I’ve heard say that a brother told her that he was attracted to her as an “exception.”

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 15:15:pm

    @ redd
    lmao, u burnt out

    blaq

    12/3/08, 15:15:pm

    Both of those chicks are mediocre at best. the one on the left looks like Dollicia Bryant and the other one just looks asian, not a pretty asian girl, just an asian girl. I am as un-impressed as TI looks in the picture.

    @ sydney
    true, and this is perpetuated by the media. casting directors will only cast dark skinned models if they are requested, otherwise they go for the stereotypical european watered down appearance we see above. But if they had a couple of sisters who looked like Serena, there would be nothing but complaints. Yung Berg is doing a Flavor of Love type reality show, were he has requested casting mostly brown and dark skinned models, he go so much flack about his dark butt comments, he’s trying to make mends. So why a lot of people think speaking up about it is jealousy or whatever, I think it is important, otherwise nothing changes and people accept that as beauty when there are so many more exotic examples of black beauty, but hey I haven’t seen the inside of the magazine they may have everything from bi-racial black and asian beauties to blue black amazon stallions. It’s all about education. Here in Cali, LA is hella color struck, Oakland not at all and in Sacramento you better be only half black, lol.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:18:pm

    Dang, I forgot to tell Film that the self-loathing among some black men — and the impact on their relationships with black women — he described was described in Nathan McCall’s book, Makes Me Wanna Holler. In essense, he said some black men hate black women because they hate themselves.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 15:18:pm

    @Talley-B… no sweetie you need to go back and read you own damn post. Maybe you didnt mean to put my name, but you did. and anyway, Why are you so *****y? chill out… sheesh

    Film

    12/3/08, 15:20:pm

    Nina Knows

    I’ve actually met more self-loathing black men than black women. But, I unerstand where you’re coming from. This situation does exist in our community between both black men and black women.

    Sydney

    Bag lady you gon hurt your back, draggin all them bags like that.

    Redd

    What’s up, man!

    *Be easy, everyone.

    Film

    12/3/08, 15:21:pm

    understand. TYPO

    I see your post, Sydney. :-)

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:22:pm

    @Octavia
    “Touche… UNTIL we get some money. When you look at the upper SES levels, you see sky-rocketing rates of interracial marriage.

    Look, I’m not saying that ALL black men feel this way. I’m just saying that far too many do. The reason I’m *****ed about this mag cover is that it is playing into the self-hate nonsense. I think all of us are guilty of letting our media play us against each other like this. So actually sent a letter to the editor by email. I also make a conscious effort to avoid shows and not support artists that promote this kinda nonsense (Yung Berg).”
    _______________________________________________________________

    Ok. To play “devil’s advocate” did you hear the “entire” infamous Yung Berg interview? His comments were made after the interviewer referred to him as “lite bright.”

    Was his response ridiculous? Yes. Do I think that he truly believes them? No, just an emotional response. Again, not an excuse cause it was as ridiculous as the day is long.

    As far as the “self hate”…. maybe. How do you “define” “self hate?” Everytime a woman of another race/culture is appreciated by men they are accused of “self hate.”

    Now, for the magazine… are you familiar with the magazine? I *****ure you there are plenty of representations of dark women in that magazine on a regular basis.

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 15:23:pm

    Nina knows

    i said that YOU were narrow-minded booboo, i know what i said…
    and nothing about me is bithcy, i just like to express my opinion…:-)

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:25:pm

    @blaq

    “But if they had a couple of sisters who looked like Serena, there would be nothing but complaints.”

    So true, so true. I’ve seen some of the most vicious comments on this blog attached to her, even referring to her as a “gorilla” (and this is a black blog — we are ALL referred to as gorillas and God knows what else on other blogs).

    I don’t know what kind of amends Yung Berg can make by casting black models for yet another show that inevitably going to depict sisters in a negative light. This seems to be another train wreck in the making, and if the recent comments attributed to him are true, he’s just as colorstruck as before, so nothing has changed.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:26:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Brother, are you saying that the negative portrayal of black women hasn’t seeped into our daily lives and perceptions? I’m going to refer you to some of the posts on this very blog.

    Heck, Michelle Obama had to battle the “Angry Black Woman” label during the campaign, and she wasn’t even running for office. Cindy McCain has much more dirt on her — and it has been reported in the past — yet Michelle, an Ivy League grad, wife, and mother who has never made waves in the national press before, was demonized.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    Do these portrayls effect on us on a daily basis? yes.

    Do these portrayls cause black men to “exclusively” date “non-black” women? No, not even close.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:27:pm

    @Film

    “I’ve actually met more self-loathing black men than black women.”

    Interesting — Any thoughts on why this may be the case?

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 15:28:pm

    Sybil.. DAMN YOU FINE AS HELL GIRL I KNOW YOU DONT HAVE TOO MANY GIRLFRIENDS BECAUSE ITS HARD TO LOOK BETTER THAN YOU. i DONT GIVE A DAMN IF YOU AINT GOT A DYME AND NO HOUSE AND NO SHOES I WOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR FINE SELF.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 15:28:pm

    On the issue of weaves and wigs, i dont see the problem, ***** Egyptians wore wigs all the time…Its just a bad weave or wig is unacceptable…

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 15:30:pm

    can someone define self hate 2 me?

    if a black woman get a weave, is that self hate?
    if a white woman/man get tans, is that self hate?
    when black men/woman perm their hair is that self hate?
    ppl define self hate

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 15:31:pm

    What up Film!

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 15:32:pm

    everytime i leave and come back someone else is getting a lil jazzy everyone has to realixe that if we all thought alike no one would visit this site, so different opinions is what makes for good convo, it challenges the mind, it tests our ideals and how much we know about ourselves history politics family wealth and poverty as well as a list of other challenges we get by getting stimulating conversation with someone whom has completely different views……***** HELL TO THE NAWWW I DONT AGREE WITH 1/2 THE ***** I READ….. BUT IT IS VERY ENTERTAINING TO GET SOMEONES ELSES TAKE ON A SUBJECT YOU HAVE AN OPINION ON… SO IN CLOSING WE CAN ALL STATE VERY DELEGATED OPINIONS, BUT ARE WE CIVAL ENOUGH TO EXCEPT A CO-BLOGGERS RESPONSE… JUST ONE TO THINK ON FOLKS, CARRY ON

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:33:pm

    @SHAY SHAY
    What’s your opinion?

    Amina

    12/3/08, 15:34:pm

    I’m sorry but that Asian girl on the right looks like she could be a trans gendered male. I am a dark skinned beautiful Black/Korean young woman and I am bad…Black Men Mag should have called me…lol

    Men like some color with that…do not be fooled black women

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 15:34:pm

    Sydney!
    I remember you! In france where i live, there is a very alarming rate of interracial couples. I say alaming because i barely see a black man whith a black woman! They are either with a arabian girl (from marrocco or algeria) or a white girl or a mixed girl! So they just say that black girls are cute but they are played out lol!Or they say that we have a lot of character! a strong personnality! But just look at the women they are with! HUGGGGGG! Because beautiful non black woman date rich white men! obviously! I think we migh as well be the only race where the woman is stronger than the men!SO trong that they cannot take us anymore! Talk about a blessing! On the other hand, black woman are dating white men like crazy too! I used to think they were softer, more caring and loyal! i was so wrong! a d*ck is a d*ck

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:35:pm

    @Man

    “Do these portrayls cause black men to “exclusively” date “non-black” women? No, not even close.”

    But I’m trying to get you to see that these portrayals do affect the perceptions of some black men who choose to date non-black women exclusively. Not everyone has the same level of cultural awareness or the discernment to know that media images and reality are separate.

    Case in point, on the blog I mentioned earlier on interracial dating, one brother, married to a white woman, said he took him years of weaning himself off television images to discover that there were beautiful black women. He wasn’t initially drawn to them. He said he had a barber (married to a Latina) who said the only thing black he wanted was a Cadillac.

    These deep-rooted feelings are real, and they do, indeed, exist and affect some men’s (and women’s) dating patterns.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:36:pm

    @SNOOP
    “can someone define self hate 2 me?

    if a black woman get a weave, is that self hate?
    if a white woman/man get tans, is that self hate?
    when black men/woman perm their hair is that self hate?
    ppl define self hate”
    _____________________________________________________________

    That’s what I asked at 3:22pm.

    I don’t think I have ever heard “self hate” defined, either explicitly or by example, as you mentioned them above.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 15:37:pm

    @ blaq & Syndey…. Hey blaq glad you came in..lol

    going with what plays in videos… I agree. And I want your opinion on this. Should we hold some of that blame if not all on our brothas that are the artist. They do have the power to let them know there is not enough representation of black women in their videos.

    Just like this cover… I can see a young black man in his teens to thinks TI is the greatest. He likes what TI likes. TI is on this cover with two non-black women, okay barely black women. It is safe to say this is subliminally pumping images to our teens/young adults? Now we as adults know that this is a image and it sells magazines. But what about what it’s teaching. This is where these sterotypes and prefrences start from, isnt it? or what you do smart ladies think!

    woe

    12/3/08, 15:40:pm

    yung berg requesting darkskinned chicks for his reality tv seems as geniune as a 4 dollar bill. He’s just trying to save his career from the ********** foot in the mouth incident. Hes doing too much for me right. Alot of brothers and sister feel like he does but they just aren’t dumb enough to admit but its show through their actions. I even had one trick tell me that she flat out thought that dark skin people were ugly and then turned around asking my black ***** for a favor. When I confronted her about the comment, she then tried to justfied the statement as a fact rather than an opinion. If I had low self esteem and wasn’t a very social conscious educated individual I would have been upset but I wasn’t I just pitied her. I know that when lighter skinned women are around her she must feel to a degree insecure and probably lose her mind around white women. Me I don’t have that issue

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 15:40:pm

    @ MAN
    I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE WAY SOCIETY PROTRAYS THE BLACK MALE HAS A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE EFFECT ON HOW SAID MALE TREATS WOMEN, THATS ONLY PART OF IT THE MAIN SOURCE IS WHAT THIS CHILD SEEN AND WAS APART OF GROWING UP. WE TALK ABOUT SOCIETY ALL DAY LONG AND HOW THEY VIEW BLACK MALES AND WHAT EFFECT THAT HAS ON WOMEN, BUT IN THE END IM 95 % TO THE FACT THE WAY THE MALE CARRYS HISSELF AND THE WAY HE TREATS AND PICKS HIS PARTNER HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THAT MANS UPBRINGING, WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE SAY ONLY BLACK MALES HAVE THIS TENDANCY… ALL MALES HAVE THE TENDANCY TO BE A ***** UP, YALL KNOW I COME FROM IOWA AND MY FIRST MAN OF 7 YEARS AND WHITE AS WELL HE WAS A DRUG DEALER AND HE USED TO HIT ME CHEAT AND LIE AND HE WAS AS WHITE AS BABY POWDER, AND SO WERE ALOT OF THE OTHER WHITE MALES, SO WHO HAS PUT THIS “SORRYNESS” ALL ON THE BLACK MEN, AND WHATEVER YOU PUT ON A BLACK MAN CONVERTS OF TO THE BLACK WOMAN, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY I HAVE THE TENDANCY TO BE MIS READ ON HERE

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:40:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “But I’m trying to get you to see that these portrayals do affect the perceptions of some black men who choose to date non-black women exclusively. Not everyone has the same level of cultural awareness or the discernment to know that media images and reality are separate.

    Case in point, on the blog I mentioned earlier on interracial dating, one brother, married to a white woman, said he took him years of weaning himself off television images to discover that there were beautiful black women. He wasn’t initially drawn to them. He said he had a barber (married to a Latina) who said the only thing black he wanted was a Cadillac.

    These deep-rooted feelings are real, and they do, indeed, exist and affect some men’s (and women’s) dating patterns.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Ok. Now the question lies, to “what degree does this effect marriage/dating patterns?” in light of the fact most blacks marry/date other blacks.

    Another point to be made is that the “media” is influenced by “society” as well. In the words of Barack “You can put lipstick on a pig….”

    That whole “Art immitatting life and life immitatting art” as far as how they influence each other.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:41:pm

    @I love my dark kin

    Wow. . .You said a lot! A friend of mine told me that when she visited London, she could count on one hand — if that — the number of black couples she saw.

    So the black men in France say that sisters have a lot of “character?” So we’re in the same spot on opposite sides of the Atlantic, lol.

    Isn’t that something?

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 15:42:pm

    @ i love my dark kin
    how do you figure the black woman is stronger than the black man?

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:45:pm

    @SHAY SHAY
    “I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE WAY SOCIETY PROTRAYS THE BLACK MALE HAS A SUBSTANTIALLY LARGE EFFECT ON HOW SAID MALE TREATS WOMEN, THATS ONLY PART OF IT THE MAIN SOURCE IS WHAT THIS CHILD SEEN AND WAS APART OF GROWING UP. WE TALK ABOUT SOCIETY ALL DAY LONG AND HOW THEY VIEW BLACK MALES AND WHAT EFFECT THAT HAS ON WOMEN, BUT IN THE END IM 95 % TO THE FACT THE WAY THE MALE CARRYS HISSELF AND THE WAY HE TREATS AND PICKS HIS PARTNER HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THAT MANS UPBRINGING, WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE SAY ONLY BLACK MALES HAVE THIS TENDANCY… ALL MALES HAVE THE TENDANCY TO BE A ***** UP, YALL KNOW I COME FROM IOWA AND MY FIRST MAN OF 7 YEARS AND WHITE AS WELL HE WAS A DRUG DEALER AND HE USED TO HIT ME CHEAT AND LIE AND HE WAS AS WHITE AS BABY POWDER, AND SO WERE ALOT OF THE OTHER WHITE MALES, SO WHO HAS PUT THIS “SORRYNESS” ALL ON THE BLACK MEN, AND WHATEVER YOU PUT ON A BLACK MAN CONVERTS OF TO THE BLACK WOMAN, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY I HAVE THE TENDANCY TO BE MIS READ ON HERE”
    ____________________________________________________________

    yeah, I understand for the most part…. I think.

    NYC Gal

    12/3/08, 15:45:pm

    It’s a damn shame you don’t see beautiful dark skinned black women on covers anymore! Who to blame? None but ourselves. We do this to ourselves when we say things like she “black and ugly”. Ugly cross racial lines but black do not!

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 15:52:pm

    Are light skin brothas still in ladies?

    Did Obama bring us back, cuz I been getting a lot of good looks lately

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 15:53:pm

    is it fair to say black males/black females get a bad wrap when it come to the media portraying us? is it part of their plan? b/c i see black men and black women disrespecting eachother all the time on here.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 15:53:pm

    @Redd Tony
    “Are light skin brothas still in ladies?

    Did Obama bring us back, cuz I been getting a lot of good looks lately”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Damn dawg. I thought I was the only one that noticed. LOL.

    YES WE CAN!!

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 15:54:pm

    @ snoop!
    I don’t *****ume t. that is what some black men i know dare to tell me!! that we are dfficult to manage and are really opiniated! Obviously, the women of other races are not ! And i guess, a man wants to feel the boss but like my girl syleena said : “you wanna be the boss, you gotta pay the cost” These men I know straight up USE those non black woman!!! If they cannot manipulate a woman, they won’t stay with them! But of course, it is not a general statement, just something i saw!

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 15:55:pm

    Man, I just don’t care

    @Redd Tony
    “Are light skin brothas still in ladies?

    Did Obama bring us back, cuz I been getting a lot of good looks lately”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Damn dawg. I thought I was the only one that noticed. LOL.

    YES WE CAN!!
    ________________

    hahahahahaahahaha

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 15:55:pm

    @ SNOOP
    @ MAN
    WELL IN MY OPINION SELF HATING IS THE BRYANT GUMBLE TYPE, SOMEONE WHON HAS OR IS COMMENCLY INVOLVED IN THE OPPOSITE RACE AND AFTER SO LONG THEY FEEL APART OF THAT RACE SO THAT WHEN CONFRONTED OR INTER-ACTED IN THEIR OWN RACE THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE TOWARDTHIER OWN, EXAMPLE A BLACK MAN ALWAYS HOLLERING HE HATES BEGGING ***** SISTERS, WELL DID ANYONE THINK HIS SELF HATE ISSUES COMING FROM WATCHING HIS MOM WHILE GROWING UP GO FROM MAN TO MAN AND ALWAYS ASKING FOR A HANDOUT, SO HIS TRUE HATE OF A BLACK WOMAN CAME FROM HIS OWN SELF ISSUES STIMULATING FORM SOMETHING IN THEIR CHILDHOOD
    NOW FOR WHITES SAME THEORY DIFFERENT SCENERIO, WHITE GIRLS RUNNING TO THE ARMS OF AN ATHELETE OR THE BIGGEST BLACK ***** BECAUSE SHE ADMIRES THE SISTAS GOES TO GET ***** IMPLANTS LIKE US AND LIVES IN THE TANNING ROOM, SHE WAS RAISED TO THINK OF HER SELF AS WHITE AND ALWAYS RIGHT BUT YET IN STILL SHE WILL DATE A BLACK MAN WHILE TRYING HER HARDEST TO LOOK LIKE A BLACK WOMAN, MIND YOU THAT SAID MAN DOESNT EVEN DATE BLACK WOMEN BUT HAS A WOMAN THAT HAS MORPHED HERSELF INTO ONE OF US
    PERFECT EXAMPLE
    ICE TEE AND COCO

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 15:56:pm

    Man i just don’t care and Redd Tony
    Hell naw, yall still out. Nino Brown put yall out the game forever. us dark chocolate bruhs still got the game on lock…lol

    Eden's Garden

    12/3/08, 15:56:pm

    Who cares what shade of woman is on the cover? what’s killing me is that he’s on the cover with these women in their underwear draped all over him and Tiny doesn’t seem to have a problem with it. I’m not saying she should be insecure (by no means), but can she demand a little respect? Guess in their siutation you can’t demand respect until you’re married. :o (

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 15:56:pm

    @Nina

    Short ansswer: Yes and Yes.

    “Should we hold some of that blame if not all on our brothas that are the artist. They do have the power to let them know there is not enough representation of black women in their videos.”

    Did you watch Hip Hop vs. America on BET? I missed it but read some excerpts, and it’s clear to me that a number of artists are going to continue with whatever sells — whether it’s sexual images, violence, what have you.

    But, we, meaning consumers, can choose not to support such garbage. And I don’t. If more of us did make a statement with our dollars, I think you would see a shift in the images because money talks.

    “Just like this cover… I can see a young black man in his teens to thinks TI is the greatest. He likes what TI likes. TI is on this cover with two non-black women, okay barely black women. It is safe to say this is subliminally pumping images to our teens/young adults?”

    I absolutely think this is sending subliminal messages into very impressionable minds. That cover screams this is what the good life looks like, and the women chosen reflect a certain image. They look racially ambiguous (particuarly the one on the right), and I’ve seen similar women more and more in popular media. I’ve even heard more blacks refer more to their “mixed race” ancestry — they have white or Native American ancestry — so it seems to me that it’s no longer enough to some to be considered just black. You have to have a little something else mixed in to be considered attractive, interesting, etc.

    To me, we’re getting away, as a whole, from the idea that blackness in itself is beautiful. It’s equal. It’s powerful. It’s something of which we should be proud.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 15:58:pm

    I love my dark kin… I like your post, and I love my dark skin too! lol

    Also, I dont know where men get off thinking non-black women are sooo innocent and submissive. Do they not watch the news. Damn have you seen snapped? White women are *****ing crazy.

    Ok so you hear black women slashing tires, or breaking windows. But killing you, putting yo black ***** in the truck, claiming the insurance and *****ing your brother… not us, that’s them.

    Film

    12/3/08, 15:59:pm

    Sydney

    In my opinion, an extreme aversion is the result of the media. It’s been programmed in young boy’s heads (even young girls) that white is a form of purity, or free from anything that pollutes society. While on the contrary, black is equivalent to being enveloped in darkness, or something seen in a pessimistic light. This is why many black actors think they’ve arrived after they married white women (not all of them). Then again, I believe that character reflects your upbringing. What did mom and dad infuse gradually into the minds of their offspring? Many times, ‘some’ black people are taught that White Americans are above average or higher in the rank or status when it comes to physicality, intelligence, and even eloquence. So, they were taught what others believed to be accurate, or it was a form of pseudo-truisms that was p*****ed down by generations during several life spans. They are several reasons why these bad thoughts/behaviors exist.

    I can’t remember the do*****entary. But, it was about young girls that didn’t want a doll that resembled their own features. That’s a prime example, but sort off topic.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 15:59:pm

    @ I LOVE MY DARK SKIN
    I LOVED YOUR POINT YOU JUST MADE BUT NEXT TIME PICK A SISTA THAT DOESNT GO AROUND SLEEPING AND SENDING FOR OTHER PEOPLES HUSBAND!!(OFF TOPIC SHE(SELINA) DID SOME SHIESTY ***** ***** TO MY COUSINS HUSBAND AND THEY WERE CHEATING AND SHE SENT FOR HIM WHILE HE WAS THE WIDE RECIEVER FOR THE COWBOYS AND WHEN HE RETURNED HOME HOME SHE HAD WROTE MY COUSIN A LONG ***** LETTER WITH LYRICS FROM HER SONGS AND STUCK THEM IN HIS BAGS….. *****EZ AINT ***** EITHER, ALL THAT FAKE ***** TALK SHE DID IN THEM SONGS AND HER OF ALL PEOPLE COULDNT FIND HER OWN MAN!!! DAMN SHAME

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:01:pm

    @snoop!
    I think it is part of the plan! In France, there is a channel where you can see “roots” and i guess when a man is deprived form his own integrity, his own rights, he cannot feel like a MAN! He is ashamed probably cause he could not help his sisters and mothers when they were being raped! And I guess, women lost respect for a man who cant do nothing for her!! In Africa, at least, in my country, women have the UTMOST repect or their men! Men has all the power but they have to deserve it! And he has to take care of his family and if he ever fails to do so, he don’t deserve no respect! I was shocked to realize how the situaton is really different in UsA with men that straight up abandon their family so of course,it is hard to respect a man who is tryng to escape his responsabilities?!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:04:pm

    @Shay Shay
    “WELL IN MY OPINION SELF HATING IS THE BRYANT GUMBLE TYPE, SOMEONE WHON HAS OR IS COMMENCLY INVOLVED IN THE OPPOSITE RACE AND AFTER SO LONG THEY FEEL APART OF THAT RACE SO THAT WHEN CONFRONTED OR INTER-ACTED IN THEIR OWN RACE THEY ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE TOWARDTHIER OWN, EXAMPLE A BLACK MAN ALWAYS HOLLERING HE HATES BEGGING ***** SISTERS, WELL DID ANYONE THINK HIS SELF HATE ISSUES COMING FROM WATCHING HIS MOM WHILE GROWING UP GO FROM MAN TO MAN AND ALWAYS ASKING FOR A HANDOUT, SO HIS TRUE HATE OF A BLACK WOMAN CAME FROM HIS OWN SELF ISSUES STIMULATING FORM SOMETHING IN THEIR CHILDHOOD
    NOW FOR WHITES SAME THEORY DIFFERENT SCENERIO, WHITE GIRLS RUNNING TO THE ARMS OF AN ATHELETE OR THE BIGGEST BLACK ***** BECAUSE SHE ADMIRES THE SISTAS GOES TO GET ***** IMPLANTS LIKE US AND LIVES IN THE TANNING ROOM, SHE WAS RAISED TO THINK OF HER SELF AS WHITE AND ALWAYS RIGHT BUT YET IN STILL SHE WILL DATE A BLACK MAN WHILE TRYING HER HARDEST TO LOOK LIKE A BLACK WOMAN, MIND YOU THAT SAID MAN DOESNT EVEN DATE BLACK WOMEN BUT HAS A WOMAN THAT HAS MORPHED HERSELF INTO ONE OF US
    PERFECT EXAMPLE
    ICE TEE AND COCO”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Ok.. I don’t know enough about Bryant Gumbel to comment although every black woman I have ever met despise him.

    People may have “issues” for various reasons without it NECESSARILY being “self hate.” The example with the brother who has disdain for “beggin sistas.” It could be argued that he doesn’t like the poor, women, blacks, himself, etc. My point being just becaus it APPEARS to be towards black women doesn’t necessarily mean that is.

    As far as the white women thing, outside of disfigurement the only reason one would get plastic surgery is to appease themselves. The only part I disagree with is that it to specifically “resemble black women.” Black women don’t monopolize fine *****ess and delicious breast (although they are close to owning the market LOL). Those qualities are appreciated in women from every culture. The same athletes white women throw selves at women from every culture are.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:07:pm

    Film

    I think this is the dolls study you referred to — It was conducted for the second time recently by a young sister, Kiri Davis (www(dot)kiridavis(dot)com) who discovered the same results. Very disturbing:

    In the “doll experiment” from the 1940s, husband-and-wife psychologists Kenneth and Mamie Clark asked black children to tell them which doll—a white one or a black one—they thought looked most like them, and which was good and which was bad. They found that black children identified with and preferred white dolls to black ones. They concluded this was proof of internalized racism. Their research later became cornerstone evidence in the landmark Supreme Court Brown v. Board of Education decision of Topeka, Kansas, which ended American school segregation.

    In 2005, 18-year-old filmmaker Kiri Davis recreated the Clarks’ experiment with 21 young black children at a daycare center in New York. In her seven-minute do*****entary, A Girl Like Me, Kiri presented the children with two dolls—a black one and a white one. Then, like in the original experiment, Kiri asked which they would rather play with and which they thought was “nice” and which was “bad.”

    As in the original test, Kiri found that most of the black children preferred the white dolls and identified the black dolls as “bad.” “I think those attitudes that existed 50 years ago are still here. They’re not highlighted, and they’re kind of on the down low, but they still exist,” Kiri says. “These children, even though they’re 4 and 5 years old, they’re kind of like a mirror and they show exactly what they’ve been exposed to by society.”

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:07:pm

    @TALLEY B
    “Hell naw, yall still out. Nino Brown put yall out the game forever. us dark chocolate bruhs still got the game on lock…lol”
    ___________________________________________________________

    I think it was the combo of Nino and Jordan dog. Don’t discount Jordan.

    But dude I’m tellin you…. slowly but surely…

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:08:pm

    I think you can find crazy, opiniated, goldiggers whatever in any race. The problem is wen black men think that their own woman is the worst! I ve been with white men and black men! I personnally have a preference for black men! I remember when i was at school, i had a lot of white male friends and someone was complimenting my *****! (off topic lol). Anywayz, one day he told me that he was never attracted to a black female! But I did not feel attacked or that he was racist! I thought that it is normal that he loves white girl since he is white!

    PREGG0 |EFF YALL..i KN0W iM D0PE|

    12/3/08, 16:08:pm

    UMMM..SCUSE ME BUT UHH..
    Ti iZ N0T SEXY…

    THiS MAGAZiNE iZ ALL TWiSTEd..

    ANd iM CONFUSEd..
    iZ THiS MAGAZiNE FOR BLACK MEN..??
    0R ABOUT BLACK MEN FOR W0MEN..??

    iF iTZ FOR BLACK MEN Y WUd THEY WRiTE ABOUT SEXy MEN???
    Nd iF iTZ FOR WOMEN THEN Y WUd THEY PUT A SUPPOSEDLY “SEXY” BLK MAN 0N HE COVER WiT THESE TW0 SL0REz??..

    i CUD’VE DESiGNEd THiS C0VER S0 MUCH BETTER…

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 16:09:pm

    film…

    I seen that do*****entary. I think its called ” a girl like me” (i could be wrong) but it was a doll experiment. all the black kids *****ociated the white doll as being nice and pretty. All the black dolls were ugly and criminals. THEN, they asked the kids which doll looked like them, they all pointed to the black doll. The look on their faces brought tears to my eyes, they instantly had this look of shame and disappointed.

    In my elementary cl***** (which was all black, few mexicans) but when we would get a transfer student that was white, ALL the kids wanted to sit by them because … get this, the white kid was smarter. Not realizing that “becky” was from the trailer park, and hadnt obtained any more education than we had. I was taught as a very young age(at home of course), to know better than this…. I guess some were not.. SMH

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 16:11:pm

    Talley-B

    Man i just don’t care and Redd Tony
    Hell naw, yall still out. Nino Brown put yall out the game forever. us dark chocolate bruhs still got the game on lock…lol
    ____________________________

    Nino Brown?….hahahahahahaahha

    Let me hear it from the ladies…Ladies?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:11:pm

    @ MAN
    THATS MY POINT WE HAVE IT LOCKED
    I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A SISTA GETTING A TAN OR HAVING THE FAT REMOVED FROM HER ***** OTHER THAN LIPOSUCTION, AND COMING FROM IOWA GRADUATING FROM IOWA STATE WITH A WHOLE SLEW OF THEM AND 95% WILL TELL YOU THEY WANT AN ***** “JUST LIKE A BLACK GIRL” LIKE WE INVENTED ***** OR SOMETHING, WE JUST PERFECTED THE *****!!! LOL

    BUT ON THE BLACK MAN TIP… I HEAR WHAT YOU SAYING BUT IT WOULD BE UP FRO GRABS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THATS WHY WE WERE IN THE DURESS WE ARE IN NOW, NOT ENOUGH FULL FAMILIES RAISING THEIR CHILDREN.R THE WAY THEY WERE RAISED IF THEY SAW THERE MOM GO TO WORK EVERYDAY AND DAD DRANK 40′S ALL DAY THEN THATS THE TYPE OF WOMAN THEY SEEK, ONE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO AS THEIR DAD DID WHILE SOMEONE ELSE PAYS THE BILLS, AND IN THESE DAY IN AGES WOMEN HAVE SMARTENED UP AND THAT AINT HAPPENING SO THEY GO TO A MORE WEAKER MIND SOMEONE THAT WILL BE EASIER TO CONTROL SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR LIFE STYLE, AND NO THIS ISNT ALL THE MEN BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST IT SURE SUMS UP ALOT OF THEM THATS WHY THE MEN WHO ARE DO-GOODERS DONT GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE

    Txhustla15 (Austin's Finest)

    12/3/08, 16:12:pm

    Amina

    I’m sorry but that Asian girl on the right looks like she could be a trans gendered male. I am a dark skinned beautiful Black/Korean young woman and I am bad…Black Men Mag should have called me…lol

    Men like some color with that…do not be fooled black women

    - haha im mad too forget black men mag , i would have hit u up first..

    @Eden’s Garden – Yeah Feel you on that , guess shorty is happy with being dedicated jumpoff status instead of committed relationship – oh well to each their own..

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:12:pm

    @FILM
    “In my opinion, an extreme aversion is the result of the media. It’s been programmed in young boy’s heads (even young girls) that white is a form of purity, or free from anything that pollutes society. While on the contrary, black is equivalent to being enveloped in darkness, or something seen in a pessimistic light. This is why many black actors think they’ve arrived after they married white women (not all of them). Then again, I believe that character reflects your upbringing. What did mom and dad infuse gradually into the minds of their offspring? Many times, ‘some’ black people are taught that White Americans are above average or higher in the rank or status when it comes to physicality, intelligence, and even eloquence. So, they were taught what others believed to be accurate, or it was a form of pseudo-truisms that was p*****ed down by generations during several life spans. They are several reasons why these bad thoughts/behaviors exist.

    I can’t remember the do*****entary. But, it was about young girls that didn’t want a doll that resembled their own features. That’s a prime example, but sort off topic.”
    _____________________________________________________________

    The “do*****entary” that you are referring to was taken from the “Brown vs Board of Education” landmark Supreme Court Decision that effectively ended “educational segregation.”

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:14:pm

    and yes about TI, he is cute but damn, cant believe that man got someting like 7 kids! GROW UP litterally lol!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:14:pm

    @Snoop

    You mentioned divisions between black men and women, and I absolutely believe that these stem from subjugation in this country. Blaq actually mentioned recently that she’s reading a book on the impact of slavery on relationships between brothers and sisters, and I wanted to get the title because it sounds like a very interesting read.

    During slavery, there were many occasions where the black man was forcibly removed from his family, so that separation has existed within our community for centuries. We were stripped of our language, our country, and our familial bonds, so, yes, it is no mistake that the repercussions of that trauma have existed to this day.

    King

    12/3/08, 16:15:pm

    NICE PIC

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:17:pm

    @ NINO BROWN
    HELL NO STOP SHARING THE PIPE WITH G MOMEY NO TO NIN BROWN MAYBE TYRESE OR TYSON

    Talley-B

    12/3/08, 16:20:pm

    corporate
    nino brown was the one that transcended the majority likeness of the aforementioned “light-skinneded bruthas” to us dark chocolate toned men. respect the originator!!! lol…..

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:21:pm

    @Man

    “The only part I disagree with is that it to specifically “resemble black women.” Black women don’t monopolize fine *****ess and delicious breast (although they are close to owning the market LOL). Those qualities are appreciated in women from every culture.”

    I think some sisters feel offended that the same *****-ets that they themselves possess are raved about when they’re attached to women of other races.

    I remember the uproar when J-Lo first hit the scene and there was all this hoopla about her derriere, and I heard sisters say, we’ve had curves since time began, but we’re not received a round of applause. The same with Kim K — Every post on her garners multiple posts from men, but threads with photos of gorgeous sisters may be lucky to hit 100.

    *shrugs*

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:21:pm

    @SHAY SHAY
    “THATS MY POINT WE HAVE IT LOCKED
    I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A SISTA GETTING A TAN OR HAVING THE FAT REMOVED FROM HER ***** OTHER THAN LIPOSUCTION, AND COMING FROM IOWA GRADUATING FROM IOWA STATE WITH A WHOLE SLEW OF THEM AND 95% WILL TELL YOU THEY WANT AN ***** “JUST LIKE A BLACK GIRL” LIKE WE INVENTED ***** OR SOMETHING, WE JUST PERFECTED THE *****!!! LOL

    BUT ON THE BLACK MAN TIP… I HEAR WHAT YOU SAYING BUT IT WOULD BE UP FRO GRABS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THATS WHY WE WERE IN THE DURESS WE ARE IN NOW, NOT ENOUGH FULL FAMILIES RAISING THEIR CHILDREN.R THE WAY THEY WERE RAISED IF THEY SAW THERE MOM GO TO WORK EVERYDAY AND DAD DRANK 40′S ALL DAY THEN THATS THE TYPE OF WOMAN THEY SEEK, ONE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO AS THEIR DAD DID WHILE SOMEONE ELSE PAYS THE BILLS, AND IN THESE DAY IN AGES WOMEN HAVE SMARTENED UP AND THAT AINT HAPPENING SO THEY GO TO A MORE WEAKER MIND SOMEONE THAT WILL BE EASIER TO CONTROL SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR LIFE STYLE, AND NO THIS ISNT ALL THE MEN BUT WE HAVE TO BE HONEST IT SURE SUMS UP ALOT OF THEM THATS WHY THE MEN WHO ARE DO-GOODERS DONT GET THE CREDIT THEY DESERVE”
    ______________________________________________________________

    LOL. Ok, yall got it on lock. BUT all men like big boobies and big butts so some women were going to get that plastic surgery done without regard to comparing themselves to “black women.”

    Do you think some of the same people that buy into the “stereotyped black female” also buy into the “stereotyped black male?”

    How accurate are the “portrayls” and “statistics” being presented to us?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:23:pm

    @ TALLEY B
    I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT NINO, BLADE TOO WONG FOO OR ANY OTHER CHARACTER WAS CUTE, HE IS JUST NOT ATTRACTIVE
    EXAMPLE TAKE HIM AND STAND HIM NEXT TO MICHAEL JORDAN, JORDAN HAS A SOFTER LOOK TO HIM WESLEY LOOKS HARD AND WORKED OVER REAL ROUGH LIKE HE SWEATS OIL OR SOME *****

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 16:23:pm

    “…. I was taught as a very young age(at home of course), to know better than this…. I guess some were not.. SMH”

    @ Nina

    There inlies the key. As with all social behavior (negative or positive) the root of the problem is often found in the upbringing. If we collectively teach our children knowledge of self and give them the self esteem (and the know how) to overcome the programming of mainstream media then the subliminal visuals they see will not have the same effect. Simply put, the more time we spend teaching our children TRUTH and the less time we allow the idiot box to raise our children the better chance they will have of being free and critical thinkers.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:23:pm

    *but we’ve*

    BTW, I don’t know many sisters who are into Nino Brown being that Wesley Snipes is pretty much a pariah among the Sisterhood.

    Christopher Williams and Allan Payne (sp) were fine as wine in that movie, though. :)

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:24:pm

    @ TALLEY B
    @MAN
    @SNOOP
    NOW MEKHI FIF HE COULD GETIT… OH HELL LET ME STOP PLAYIN HE GOT IT!!!! I WAS AND YOUNG AND HOT BUT YEAH HE CAOULD DEF WIN THE JACKPOT

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 16:27:pm

    Redd.. whut up!

    I dont really care what skin tone a brotha is.. Black is black to me. But not mixed looking, when males are mixed they come out looking too european looking, except for maybe gary dourdan, or mike ealy. But hell no on a dude looking like evan ross.

    PREGG0 |EFF YALL..i KN0W iM D0PE|

    12/3/08, 16:28:pm

    i 0NLY THOUGHT WESLEY WAS DECENT L00KiN in WAiTiN T0 EXHALE..
    BUT..
    MAYBE THAT WAS JUST THE CHARACTER HE PLAYEd…
    eh..

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:31:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “I think some sisters feel offended that the same *****-ets that they themselves possess are raved about when they’re attached to women of other races.

    I remember the uproar when J-Lo first hit the scene and there was all this hoopla about her derriere, and I heard sisters say, we’ve had curves since time began, but we’re not received a round of applause. The same with Kim K — Every post on her garners multiple posts from men, but threads with photos of gorgeous sisters may be lucky to hit 100.

    *shrugs*”
    _____________________________________________________________

    Ok, how much control does the average black man have over whether a black female is “offended?” How much of that feeling of being “offended” stems from insecurities from multiple reasons?

    As far as Kim K. and J.Lo… yes they are admired by men of varied cultures. How many times have you seen J. Lo *****oiciated with anything remotely *****ociated with Black culture after the Puffy fiasco? She used Puff to get on and that was it for her with the black community.

    The only reason Kim K gets so many responses is mainly from women venting their disgust with her. Do you think black men shouldn’t admire Kim K because she isn’t black?

    Film

    12/3/08, 16:33:pm

    Sydney, Nina Knows, Man, I just don’t care

    Thanks for the information!

    Redd

    ‘Did Obama bring us back, cuz I been getting a lot of good looks lately’

    LOLOL, so have I.

    Oh yeah, I saw your post yesterday about Lindsay Williams on oil non-crisis. I’ll check that out.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:34:pm

    @SHAY SHAY
    “I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT NINO, BLADE TOO WONG FOO OR ANY OTHER CHARACTER WAS CUTE, HE IS JUST NOT ATTRACTIVE
    EXAMPLE TAKE HIM AND STAND HIM NEXT TO MICHAEL JORDAN, JORDAN HAS A SOFTER LOOK TO HIM WESLEY LOOKS HARD AND WORKED OVER REAL ROUGH LIKE HE SWEATS OIL OR SOME *****”
    __________________________________________________________

    LOL. That’s why I included Jordan. I remember back in high school one of my white teachers told us she *****d thinking Jordan.

    Yes, *****d. She wasn’t that much older than us… OL. That’s when I was like “damn… even young white girls wanna ***** this *****.”

    I went and bought his shoes the next day LOL.

    snoop bloggy blog

    12/3/08, 16:36:pm

    @ shay shay
    i agree to a certain extent. let’s not generalize though, it’s a lot of sorry brothers out there sisters not exempt

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:37:pm

    @Man

    “As far as Kim K. and J.Lo… yes they are admired by men of varied cultures. How many times have you seen J. Lo *****oiciated with anything remotely *****ociated with Black culture after the Puffy fiasco? She used Puff to get on and that was it for her with the black community. ”

    Glad you realize this — After she had to go to that police station, it was pretty much a wrap. I can only imagine what her family and friends said to her.

    “The only reason Kim K gets so many responses is mainly from women venting their disgust with her. Do you think black men shouldn’t admire Kim K because she isn’t black?”

    No, I don’t think they shouldn’t admire (don’t really like that word in this context) Kim K, but there’s an obvious disparitiy in the number of hits she gets versus another beautiful black woman.

    Shoot, brothers are even saying they’re tired of Beyonce now, and I thought she was the Chosen One. I have yet to see the same posts about Kim.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 16:37:pm

    @I love my dark kin

    Whats wrong wit having 7 kids if you can take care of them and raise them right?

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:39:pm

    Oh, yeah, Michael Jordan is a pompous, arrogant, womanizing jerk.

    :)

    nicole

    12/3/08, 16:39:pm

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    PREGG0 && FiERCE

    12/3/08, 16:40:pm

    N0THiNG WR0NG WiT HAViN 7 KiDZ…
    BY THE SAME W0MAN..

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:41:pm

    @ man i just

    Of course men can admire kim k or any of the othere girls that are fine black or not! The difference is that melyssa ford is called that “*****” but when it comes to KIM K, seems like some are ready to wife her! A black woman that don’t present herself as the vigin mary will always be overloked, criticized,name called but KM K aint no virin and has a heavy past of *****ty pictures tc.. and last time i checked, they have EXACTLY the same *****ets!!!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:42:pm

    @Redd

    Isn’t he not married to Tiny? Isn’t he a convicted felon? Isn’t he setting a poor example for his offspring?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:42:pm

    @ SNOOP
    CO SIGN 100% I HANG WITH SOME OF THEM… DONT TEL MEE

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 16:42:pm

    What up Film! Yeah check that out

    @Nina and Sydney

    Thanks for ur input…. :)

    @Talley

    We on a come back dogg…lol

    OBAMAmix

    12/3/08, 16:43:pm

    AMAZING WE USE WORDS LIKE MEDIOCRE TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE.. CHEK OUT THE MAG ITS ACTUALLY SUM COOL PICS.. EVEN MORE AMAZING ALL THESE PEOPLE HATING ON LINE BUT WILL BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO GET CONCERT TICKETS OR TO POSE THEMSELVES.. I PERSONALLY KNOW ALL THREE ON THE COVER.. AND BELIEVE ME THEY COULD GIVE 2 PERCENT OF A ***** OF WHAT YALL THINKING OR SAYING…LOOK IN THE MIRROR & GIVE YASELF 10 REASONS U LOVE YASELF NOT INCLUDING LOOKS.. i know u thinking eFF THIS DUDE. BUT U CANT DO IT!! I KNOW.. BECUZ U TOO CONCERNED WITH OTHERS, AS PEOPLE DIRECTLY IN YOUR FAMILY or circle DOING BAD RITE NOW( financial, morals, illegal ***** etc.) AT THIS MOMENT.. & rather than think of a way to help them or yourSELF U LOOK ONLINE TO STEP OUTSIDE YOUR CHAOS.. NOW GET OFF SITE BEFOR YA BOSS CATCH YALL *****ES.. AND U BE JOBBLOGGING… LOL.. TI, CHANTA & DAPHNE JOY.. U MADE IT CUZ THEY HATE IT..!!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:43:pm

    @I love my dark kin

    Are you sure you’re in France? Because you sound like a good ol’ American sister, lol.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 16:43:pm

    @Illuminate Truth…

    You are very correct. The problem in households is they leave all the parenting to the school and the idiot box. Maybe for whites they can just go to school and that be it. But we are Black people living in a white man’s world, no matter how some try and cut it. So therefore we should be raising soldiers at home and not ***** ***** jiggaboos. So grateful when a white man hand you something, not realizing your earned it on your own. Start teaching black girls and boys the fundamentals of their culture and cut out all this un-necessary bull*****. Our kids go to school and come home and want to be dancers, or in sports. stop doing all this new age shucking and jiving for white people. and learn some physics, chemistry, and mathematics. like Nas said.. aint no *****s as NASA! Real Talk

    btw.. I love ALL your post.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 16:45:pm

    Sydney

    @Redd

    Isn’t he not married to Tiny? Isn’t he a convicted felon? Isn’t he setting a poor example for his offspring?
    ____________________

    Well yeah, but you cant be perfect…

    Maybe it would set a better example if he were married…But still love is love, If he had that peice of paper, he’d still be Mr. TI….

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:45:pm

    lol I never said that there was something wrong with having 7 kids! My problem is that he looks like a kid himself! SO when i said grow up its because TI is a damn midget lol

    BTW, having 7 kids without being married is a problem but i won’t go there today!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:46:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Glad you realize this — After she had to go to that police station, it was pretty much a wrap. I can only imagine what her family and friends said to her.”

    “The only reason Kim K gets so many responses is mainly from women venting their disgust with her. Do you think black men shouldn’t admire Kim K because she isn’t black?”

    No, I don’t think they shouldn’t admire (don’t really like that word in this context) Kim K, but there’s an obvious disparitiy in the number of hits she gets versus another beautiful black woman.

    Shoot, brothers are even saying they’re tired of Beyonce now, and I thought she was the Chosen One. I have yet to see the same posts about Kim.”
    _______________________________________________________________

    yeah, but J.Lo was NEVER glorified or loved by black men in the way Halle Berry is. Hell, even in the way Gabrielle Union, Sanaa Lathan,(etc.)are glorified by black men. She was/is considered attractive and that’s it.

    I highly doubt posts count on Bossip are indicitive of anything of substance. “Jesus Take the Wheel” posts have received more than Barack or Oprah on occ*****ion. Go through a Kim K thread and you can count on your hand how many of the comments will be “positive” in Kim K’s favor. Men see her for what she is “T & A” and that’s it. Yes, we like that. Doesn’t mean that’s ALL we like.

    I like Beyonce too but I’m tired of her posts too. She has at least 3 per day. What else is their to know about this woman? Seriously, do we need a pic of EVERY event she goes to?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:48:pm

    @ OBAMA MIX
    FOR SOMEONE WITH ALL THIS CLOUT AND SO MUCH GOING ON YOUR FINDING ALOT OF TIME TO COME CRITISIZE SOMEONE FOR THIER OPINION, DO ME A FAVOR EXIT THIS SITE AND THEN COME YOU ***** BACK IN AND YOIU WILL NOTICE THIS IS A BLOG SITE, THEY POST SOME ***** AND WE RESPOND IF WE CARED WHAT ARTIST OR ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT WE WOULDNT POST, BUT THATNKS FOR YOU HELP NOW GO FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO. WE NEED NO ADVISE AND SINCE YOU KNOW THEM SO WELL GO BLOG WITH THEM, BECAUSE BOSSIP IS TO OPINIONATED FOR YOUR LYIN ***** KICK ROCKS
    **WHISTLING WHILE KICKIN ***** UNDER MY DESK*

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:51:pm

    @ sidney, Yes but i was living for 2 years in NY! I wanted to experience what is living in America! The whole world is fascinated or disgusted by you but we are all curious! I loved living in AMERICA because when you re black, you are less overlooked that here! Here, we are immigrants, in your case, its your country! Im aware that there is still a long way to go but in my city for example, they only have something like 5-6 hairsalons for black people! In brooklyn, I remember it was like 1 every block

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:53:pm

    @Redd

    “Well yeah, but you cant be perfect…

    Mon dieu. . .We can’t all be “perfect?” He’s a freaking felon caught with guns!

    “Maybe it would set a better example if he were married…But still love is love, If he had that peice of paper, he’d still be Mr. TI….”

    Again, if he thought of Tiny to keep having her bear his children, then he should have walked her down the aisle by now. And hasn’t he been known to skip out on her? That’s love?

    SMH.

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 16:54:pm

    @I love my dark skin
    “Of course men can admire kim k or any of the othere girls that are fine black or not! The difference is that melyssa ford is called that “*****” but when it comes to KIM K, seems like some are ready to wife her! A black woman that don’t present herself as the vigin mary will always be overloked, criticized,name called but KM K aint no virin and has a heavy past of *****ty pictures tc.. and last time i checked, they have EXACTLY the same *****ets!!!”
    ______________________________________________________________

    Ok. Um… did the same person say that Melyssa Ford was a “*****” also say “I would marry Kim K.”? Because if the people were different one could think both are “*****es” and one could think they would “marry” both.

    How are black women “overlooked?”

    Do you feel that non-black women are admired by black men more? If so, what makes you feel that way?

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 16:54:pm

    “Oh, yeah, Michael Jordan is a pompous, arrogant, womanizing jerk.”

    But in his prime the ladies loved him. Women who didn’t know basketball wanted to throw their panties at this cat.

    In the case of dark skinned men vs. light skinned men I don’t think it matters. From what I’ve seen it is mainly us men that have that “she gotta be redbone” syndrome. I don’t see women really preferring one over the other. They say women are more vain (debatable) but it is the men that put more requirements on physical attributes of the opposite sex. I’ve never heard a women say she prefers one skin tone over another but I’ve heard it from countless number of men.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:56:pm

    @Man

    “yeah, but J.Lo was NEVER glorified or loved by black men in the way Halle Berry is. Hell, even in the way Gabrielle Union, Sanaa Lathan,(etc.)are glorified by black men. She was/is considered attractive and that’s it.”

    Once again, are you serious? J-Lo wasn’t loved by brothers like Halle Berry? She was considered way more than attractive.

    Oh, and are you tired of Kim K posts, too. How many have there been so far this week?

    What’s there to know about Beyonce? What, do you not think she has T&A as well?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:58:pm

    @ ILL TRUTH
    YES MICHAEL IS ALL THOSE THINGS BUT YOU FORGOT THE MAIN ONE ******FINE ***** HELL*** ONE WORD FOR HIS *****

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 16:58:pm

    not that it matters but is so nice to feel that you are represented! In France when you turn on the TV, you won’t see ONE BLACKWOMAN! NOT ONE! OK MAYBE TWO! Here we just got our own organisation just to defend the rights of BLACK PEOPLE IN 2007! CAN YOU BELIEVE IT!!!

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 16:59:pm

    @ I LOVE MY DARK SKIN
    VALENNE IS THAT YOU *****!!! I THINK THIS IS YOU!!!!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 16:59:pm

    @I love my dark kin

    “The whole world is fascinated or disgusted by you but we are all curious!”

    LOL, I really, really hope the image of America improves overseas once Dubya leaves office. Lord knows, these last eight years have been horrific.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:00:pm

    Is that Valenne with a new SN?

    Girl, no wonder you know me!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:04:pm

    @ILLUMINATE TRUTH
    “But in his prime the ladies loved him. Women who didn’t know basketball wanted to throw their panties at this cat.

    In the case of dark skinned men vs. light skinned men I don’t think it matters. From what I’ve seen it is mainly us men that have that “she gotta be redbone” syndrome. I don’t see women really preferring one over the other. They say women are more vain (debatable) but it is the men that put more requirements on physical attributes of the opposite sex. I’ve never heard a women say she prefers one skin tone over another but I’ve heard it from countless number of men.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    Yeah. You 100 on that Jordan comment.

    These men that you have encountered that say “she gotta be redbone” and the like. Have you ever noticed what their mates look like?

    “I’ve never heard a woman say she prefers one skin tone over another but I’ve heard it from countless number of men.”
    Ok. Can you name some qualities that you have heard some women address when it comes to who they date?

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 17:04:pm

    @ SYDNEY
    RIGHT
    YOU KNOW ITS MY INSOECTER GADGET *****

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:05:pm

    Man, why are you treating this thread like a research project? lol

    I love my dark kin

    12/3/08, 17:08:pm

    @ MAN I DON’T CARE
    Idk,I think we are overlooked, I think our men are judging us way harsher than they would judge a woman from another race! Actually, i can understand! But white girls are kinda worse! They will sleep with you the same night or suck you ***** on the men’s bathroom just cause they drunk! Let a black woman do the same and see what men will say! Maybe its just a personal feeling but maybe its because black men actually know the black woman better and know what is going on in our community but i can ensure you that they are not better! I know too many of them to feel that way! hell naw!

    And yes, most white men ive been with idolized black woman, talking about how we are more sensual, more involved in bed, more sexual and how our personnality stands out!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:08:pm

    @Shay

    Or Sherlock Holmes, lol. :)

    @Illuminate

    “In the case of dark skinned men vs. light skinned men I don’t think it matters. From what I’ve seen it is mainly us men that have that “she gotta be redbone” syndrome. I don’t see women really preferring one over the other.”

    I don’t have a preference — I’m dated men of all shades.

    I have a cousin who has bluntly said that she prefers to date lighter-skinned men, but I believe she has a complex about her own skin tone.

    There was a good episode of “Girlfriends” related to this some time ago, involving Toni. She didn’t want to date a darker-skinned brother because of colorism she herself had experienced.

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 17:10:pm

    @ Nina Knows

    Exactly. Most parents don’t know what subject matter their children are doing in school but they know what their child’s favorite TV “program” is. Our priorities are all screwed up. Personally, I’m investing too much time to dispell the myths that my child is being taught in school to then turn her loose to the BS that is on TV. She says she feels left out when her friends are conversating about various TV programs (that aren’t even suitable for her age group anyway). I say “good”.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:10:pm

    @I Love My Dark Kin

    “And yes, most white men ive been with idolized black woman, talking about how we are more sensual, more involved in bed, more sexual and how our personnality stands out!”

    See, I have problems with this — Can we say stereotypes?

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 17:11:pm

    @Illuminate

    Ive heard enough black women say they prefer a dark skin man over a light skin man, but maybe its just the area that I live….It not a huge issue though…I still get love though, its whats on the inside that counts anyways…..

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:11:pm

    Damn, yall remember me!

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 17:12:pm

    @ SYDNEY
    BECAUSE HE CANT HELP IT

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:13:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Once again, are you serious? J-Lo wasn’t loved by brothers like Halle Berry? She was considered way more than attractive.

    Oh, and are you tired of Kim K posts, too. How many have there been so far this week?

    What’s there to know about Beyonce? What, do you not think she has T&A as well?”
    ________________________________________________________________

    ROFLMAO at J.Lo considered “way more attractive.” Where do you come up with this stuff? What do you base this on? I can *****ure you ANY survey that you can find will show black men consider Halle Berry more attractive than J.Lo. Again, ANY survey, magazine,online report. Pretty much anything. I won’t even waste our time discussing it beyond that.

    LOL. **snickering** J.Lo WAY more than Halle???

    Yeah. Sometimes I get tired of Kim posts too. Do we need to go count the posts for each?? We both know Beyonce has more threads and posts.

    Why is Kim K vs. Beyonce posts even relevant? As I said before.. sometimes “Jesus Take the Wheel” has more posts than anything.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 17:14:pm

    @ valeennne
    yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    i love when the ole skool come back and honestly i dont know any other black girls from france other than you

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:15:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Man, why are you treating this thread like a research project? lol”
    ____________________________________________________________

    Just trying to see stuff from a few different perspectives.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 17:15:pm

    love my dark kin

    @ MAN I DON’T CARE
    Idk,I think we are overlooked, I think our men are judging us way harsher than they would judge a woman from another race! Actually, i can understand! But white girls are kinda worse! They will sleep with you the same night or suck you ***** on the men’s bathroom just cause they drunk! Let a black woman do the same and see what men will say! Maybe its just a personal feeling but maybe its because black men actually know the black woman better and know what is going on in our community but i can ensure you that they are not better! I know too many of them to feel that way! hell naw!
    ________________________________

    hahahahahahaha…she said “suck ur *****” hahahahahahaahahh

    I love my black women :)

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:16:pm

    @ sydney!

    Yes, I think most of white men ive been with were not really in love with me as they pretended but more with what i represented,smthg different! exotic but i do think they really think that we are better! maybe some fetish ish! and they really love our curves.

    ♥Ayita Loves Adam♥

    12/3/08, 17:18:pm

    Why do Black men glorfy these w*****s on all of these “black men” magazines? Is that what they want in a woman, a w*****? I’m so tired of these stupid as women wanting to spread their legs and take off their clothes for fame. I would rather see T.I. with Tiny and a nice family shot.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:19:pm

    @Man

    “LOL. **snickering** J.Lo WAY more than Halle???”

    Mister, I wrote that brothers considered J.Lo way more than attractive. You said she was considered attractive and that’s it. I disagreed.

    @Valenne

    Bonjour, mademoiselle! I should have known it was you, lol.

    Nina Knows

    12/3/08, 17:20:pm

    @Illuminate Truth… your right about black men and women with the skin tones.

    I’ve heard some black women say they like chocolate men, BUT I’ve never heard them place them above a light skinned one. Or outright not date another shade at all. Good men are too hard to come by for that bull*****. Now for the men, puh-lease… if they dont have a bad yella bone, they feel like they missing out.

    90% of rap seperates black womens skin tones all the time.for example: I cant remember a song Pimp C has done without mentioning one. But we as women need to not deal with “*****s” anyway. I think Black men just want a good Black woman,I guess.(shrugs shoulders)

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:21:pm

    @ corporate,

    I see you stil typing all caps lol!
    Damn, I remember those arguments i used to have on here especially with ms sugar walls! lol

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:24:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “I don’t have a preference — I’m dated men of all shades.

    I have a cousin who has bluntly said that she prefers to date lighter-skinned men, but I believe she has a complex about her own skin tone.

    There was a good episode of “Girlfriends” related to this some time ago, involving Toni. She didn’t want to date a darker-skinned brother because of colorism she herself had experienced.”
    ______________________________________________________________

    Ok. What if his skin were blue?

    No, not really dark but actually “blue.”

    This does occur. Look up the “Fugates.” This family was known to have members whose skin was litteraly blue although in other aspects they were in good health.

    LOL. I’m just saying.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 17:25:pm

    dame we missed you, you gaver our arguments a different flava, one that from a Black French American that was different and i was explining to flash and man yesterday if we all had the same opinion this would be a boring ***** site and i wouldnt be here

    nicole

    12/3/08, 17:26:pm

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    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 17:27:pm

    @ Man

    As far as the Brothas (adults) that I have encountered that prefer redbones (two come immediately to mind) one is dating a redbone (ironically, she isn’t attractive at all but I guess as long as she is light skin…idk) and the other is a male ho so I don’t think he really gives a damn when it comes down to it. I conversate with a lot of youth (coaching youth sports locally)and this is where I hear it the most. This is where the programming of our youth’s impressionable minds becomes transparent.

    Most women (in my encounters anyway) will refer to the charachter of a man in the same breath as anything physical they are looking for. Men are more visual. They seem to initially look for in a woman what would satisfy their physical needs. Women are more mentally stimulated. They seem to initially look for what would satisfy their emotional needs. I think most men (myself included) had to mature to the realization that while what is between their legs will get you there, it is what is between their ears that will keep you there.

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:27:pm

    Valenne, you’re kind of raunchy, aren’t you girl? You wrote the C-word. *gasp*

    “Yes, I think most of white men ive been with were not really in love with me as they pretended but more with what i represented,smthg different! exotic but i do think they really think that we are better! maybe some fetish ish! and they really love our curves.”

    This is why I can’t embrace interracial dating for myself — I don’t to be anyone’s exotic experiment, fetish, or what have you, and I do know there are men out there who chase after black women because of the sexuality stereotype. We have too much history to buy into that. I can’t do it.

    Now I’ve wondered how black men feel about non-black women who hold obvious stereotypes about their sexuality, i.e. black men are well-endowed, better in bed, etc. Somehow I don’t think it’s as much an issue for some of them, lol.

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:28:pm

    @ sydney
    Bonjour comment vas tu?

    Lots of woman are also color struck! I mean, there was a time when light skin brothas were really popular! Now, its the tyrese skin tone like wih a banging body (oh just get wet… *****) like my ex! As an african woman first, i love dark skin men just like those you can find here! Once again, i can deal with a light skin or a white dude but that dark skin turns me on! I met one lately! Damn, he is so fine ! his color is perfect! and i did not get to verify the material yet but usually, they never disappoint!

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:33:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “Mister, I wrote that brothers considered J.Lo way more than attractive. You said she was considered attractive and that’s it. I disagreed.”
    _________________________________________________________

    Yeah I know Missy. LOL.

    Don’t get upset with me. Do understand though, J. Lo was never even remotely close to being in the same league as Halle. I promise you that, regardless of how you research it. That was my point.

    Seems, a man can’t say a non black woamn is fine without it being interpetted as a slight either against black women as a whole or some other black women specifically (ex. Kim K. being compared to Melyssa Ford and Beyonce). Again, that’s how it seems. What would be your suggestion for a brotha on a blog such as “Bossip?”

    I was thinking something along the lines of:

    “Kim K. got a nice body and all…. but there are some more attractive black women.”

    Or something like that.

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:33:pm

    @ sydney,
    of course not. In Europe, White girls crave black Men like crazyyyyyyyyyy
    I heard that in Germany, they love them. Send a couple self hating brothas and they wll think Europe is a paradise lol! Imagine a nice looking blond girl like seal’s wife (cant remember her name) chasing them! they will become crazy and unlike in AMERICA, they won’t need money to bang them!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:34:pm

    @Man

    “Ok. What if his skin were blue?

    No, not really dark but actually “blue.”

    This does occur. Look up the “Fugates.” This family was known to have members whose skin was litteraly blue although in other aspects they were in good health.

    LOL. I’m just saying.”

    The Fugate family? I’ve never heard of them, but I draw the line at blue, lol. I’ll have to look them up. They’re really blue?

    I don’t want to give birth to a Smurf. :)

    Neek

    12/3/08, 17:34:pm

    I don’t know what it is about him, but he really does irritate me.

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:39:pm

    @ man I just don’t care, you are funny! I love how you are interested in understanding our train of thoughts! while stating your opinion! loves it!

    I think you are right! Some black women, I might be one of them can feel underestimated when a man apprecate a woman from another race! maybe! I guess sometimes we read too muh into things!

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 17:40:pm

    “Now I’ve wondered how black men feel about non-black women who hold obvious stereotypes about their sexuality, i.e. black men are well-endowed, better in bed, etc. Somehow I don’t think it’s as much an issue for some of them, lol.”

    @ Syd
    Oh oh. Taboo. LOL.

    Maybe you’ve found some hidden agenda. Maybe (just maybe), these stereotypes about Black men’s sexuality is one reason that some Black men prefer white women. It is easier to go in a relationship with preconceived “respect” as opposed to having to earn it. Sort of like a built in ego stroker. Damn Syd, that was a good point.

    daughtercreole

    12/3/08, 17:40:pm

    All I know is that T.I. love light skin girls
    I want to be in a T.I. video then if this is the case

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:41:pm

    @ILLUMINATE TRUTH
    “As far as the Brothas (adults) that I have encountered that prefer redbones (two come immediately to mind) one is dating a redbone (ironically, she isn’t attractive at all but I guess as long as she is light skin…idk) and the other is a male ho so I don’t think he really gives a damn when it comes down to it. I conversate with a lot of youth (coaching youth sports locally)and this is where I hear it the most. This is where the programming of our youth’s impressionable minds becomes transparent.”

    Most women (in my encounters anyway) will refer to the charachter of a man in the same breath as anything physical they are looking for. Men are more visual. They seem to initially look for in a woman what would satisfy their physical needs. Women are more mentally stimulated. They seem to initially look for what would satisfy their emotional needs. I think most men (myself included) had to mature to the realization that while what is between their legs will get you there, it is what is between their ears that will keep you there.
    _____________________________________________________________

    Hmmm.. ok. So for ALL the guys that you have heard say the “skin tone preference” only two “come to mind” with one basically talking to whoever.

    If a man neglected to mention “character” as one of the qualities he admirers in a woman do you believe that it is because he doesn’t value “character?”

    Ok. So the women you have encountered have mentioned “physical” attributes along with “character qualities.” Do you care to name some?

    Do you think society has influenced the “physical” attributes that women listed as attractive?

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 17:42:pm

    LMAO @ Valenne

    “Damn, he is so fine ! his color is perfect! and i did not get to verify the material yet but usually, they never disappoint!”

    “Verify the material” — I haven’t heard it put like that before, lol.

    @Man

    “I was thinking something along the lines of:

    “Kim K. got a nice body and all…. but there are some more attractive black women.”

    Or something like that.”

    That’s nice.

    Or just stand up for your sisters when the regular black women-bashers invade the thread, just as sisters stand up to the brother-bashing. :)

    Sounds fair, right?

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:43:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “The Fugate family? I’ve never heard of them, but I draw the line at blue, lol. I’ll have to look them up. They’re really blue?

    I don’t want to give birth to a Smurf.”
    ____________________________________________________________

    LOL. Is that a “skin preference” I detect??? Just kidding.

    Yeah, look them up. They were really “smurf blue” too. There is laser treatment that is supposed to be able to “cure” it now though.

    KZZMERGHTTHERE(A.K.A The Best ***** of Bossip)!

    12/3/08, 17:44:pm

    It’s too much to read to catch up on what yall talking bout so I will say this from reading the last post…

    I love my skin tone dammitt, besides what can I do about it anyway????? NOTHING!!! ***** I hope that fits the conversation….

    KZZMERGHTTHERE(A.K.A The Best ***** of Bossip)!

    12/3/08, 17:45:pm

    ~~Kzz waving @MAN: @Sydney: and who ever else okkkkayyyy!!!!!! LOL…..

    @Man are you behaving 2day?????

    Man, I just don't care

    12/3/08, 17:46:pm

    @SYDNEY
    “That’s nice.

    Or just stand up for your sisters when the regular black women-bashers invade the thread, just as sisters stand up to the brother-bashing.

    Sounds fair, right?”
    _____________________________________________________________

    now that I think about it I could see how if I was gettin my ***** beat and my “friend” ain’t jump in to help I would be angry.

    I never really paid those fools that much attention to be honest. Neither the ones “bashing” on black men or black women.

    KZZMERGHTTHERE(A.K.A The Best ***** of Bossip)!

    12/3/08, 17:48:pm

    @Sydney: Yes that’s true what you are saying about KK body but I don’t give props to fakeness…..these hollywood chicks are fake!!! some of them….Now Alicia Keys that’s all her..she does not have to put on a fake azz fake *****…she is who she is I like that…I can’t stand barbie’s like KK….

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 17:49:pm

    @ sydney
    he is a dancer so his body is on point and he is really nice! He has kids wih a white girl though but i don’t think he is color struck so i might give him a shot!

    Illuminate Truth

    12/3/08, 17:51:pm

    @ Man

    Long story short…..from MY experience men pay more attention to particular physical attributes as opposed to women. Name them? Brah, you aren’t in my circle so what good is that? Do you disagree with my observation? If so, state your opinion. I’m curious.

    doasisaydo

    12/3/08, 17:59:pm

    @ JDs Revenge: From what University did you get your degree? As a black woman married to a dark skinned black man with 2 degrees, my standards for a partner in life had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Black women listen to me: I have dealt with ignorant, uneducated, limited vocabulary negroes like JD and many other black men and had even given up on finding a good one for a minute. I dated a white man, and an Indian before I met my husband. My husband was different from the start. He was tall, and handsome, but didn’t know it. He wore gl*****es and was what we call a geek or nerd. He was completely different from the black men I dated before. I gave him a chance though. He doesn’t curse, drink, smoke or disrespect me in any way. He works hard and makes very good money. We have 2 beautiful kids, and has enormous “equipment” to work with! Stop giving an audience to these unworthy fellas. If it won’t pull it’s pants up, if it looks like a clone of the next thug, you don’t want that. Raise your standards my sisters. Any man that refers to you out of your name doesn’t deserve your time or attention. I tell my younger siblings to look elsewhere for a man. Date what wants YOU. One of my sisters is married to a latino. I am sick of wasting time and *****e with these silly negroes that aren’t worthy to share the same air with me. Find out if he has a college degree. If he doesn’t, move on. Make them rise to your level, don’t stoop to theirs.

    ♥Ayita Loves Adam♥

    12/3/08, 17:59:pm

    It’s funny how some Black men claim that they love Black women who are dark-skinned and have natural hair but they always go for the lightest damn-near whitest girl who is a mixed. My complexion id very chocolate and I’ve been natural since I was 16. I got nothing but hate from Black men about my hair and all this crap about how I “used to have ling and pretty hair”.It’s funny though after that I started attracting white and Hispanic men.I love all types of men but Black men tend to be very picky and hypocritical when it comes to women. I’m 18 years old in college I’m with a guy who appreciates my natural hair and my skin and he happens to be white. I never been with a White person before, I was told by my dad to never date white people.My boyfriend doesn’t see me as a some type of “racial experiment” or doesn’t have a fetish for Black women or anything. He just loves me for me and he treats me right and it doesn’t hurt that he likes spending money on me.

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 18:18:pm

    @♥Ayita Loves Adam♥

    You go gyrl…I know das right you got you a man!

    Redd Tony aka Earth Sign "Simplicity is true Sophistication"

    12/3/08, 18:19:pm

    @♥Ayita Loves Adam♥

    I bet you a fine lil chocolate thang too…. :)

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 18:34:pm

    dman miss money bags CIVAL= CIVIL LEARN HOW TO SPELL!

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 18:35:pm

    damn miss money bags CIVAL=CIVIL LEARN HOW TO SPELL!

    Jewish Baby

    12/3/08, 18:37:pm

    the more i see this stuff the more i think women of color are shamless prostitutes

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 18:39:pm

    OBAMA MIX TELL THAT REMIDIAL NON SPELLING WITCH TO SUX A EGG!

    ♥Ayita Loves Adam♥

    12/3/08, 18:39:pm

    Jewish Baby-Go ***** yourself *****. There are millions of white *****stars,strippers,hoes. Does Kim K ring a bell.

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 18:43:pm

    AYITA.. THANK YOU JEWISH BABY YOU SOUND LIKE JEWISH WOMAN GO ***** YOUR DADDY.. WHITE WOMEN ARE SHAMELESS FLAT AZZ SLU#S LIKE JENNA JAMISON, KIM K, PARIS H, AND ***** SWALLOWING KENDRA OF GIRLS NEXT DOOR AND BRANDYC OF ROCK OF LOVE!

    Sydney

    12/3/08, 18:59:pm

    Is anyone still here?

    Hi, Kzz! I haven’t talked with you in a while. :)

    @Illuminate

    “Maybe you’ve found some hidden agenda. Maybe (just maybe), these stereotypes about Black men’s sexuality is one reason that some Black men prefer white women. It is easier to go in a relationship with preconceived “respect” as opposed to having to earn it. Sort of like a built in ego stroker. Damn Syd, that was a good point.”

    LOL, I’ve actually had this conversation with friends about the “black buck” stereotype and how it is still an image that exists among some non-blacks. But I don’t see anyone who expresses it as having “respect” for brothers — It seems dehumanizing to me, much like the sexual stereotypes about black women.

    U Aint Slick

    12/3/08, 19:06:pm

    I know you like em. You wanna ***** em don’t cha? You prolly be mastabatin to em to.

    I love my dark skin aka Valenne (YOU GOT ME!)

    12/3/08, 19:15:pm

    maybe they should impose quotas by shade now!!! smdhhhhhh hard! you know like a sort of affirmative action but within the black media so they can reflect the reality!

    sounds crazy but someone must stop that ***** now! ITS 2008! Every body needs love! Light skin are beautiful but dark skin too and we want to see them! OK, we need to see Black woman represented as a whole. Seems like we need this!

    U Aint Slick

    12/3/08, 19:32:pm

    cyba sex is a hella drug aint it. Men luv dat *****. If he knew

    Ghost

    12/3/08, 19:39:pm

    Haha whats all the fuss for a magazine thats commonly found on the floor of bathroom stalls and dusty barbershops/salons every so often in county hospitals
    ———————————–
    True!!!
    A bigger question needs to be asked-
    Why is this guy getting all this attention AFTER he got busted at the Buffon Awards for guns????
    He was in movies and had success and *****ody gave a real damn about him.
    Now that he has been in jail or house arrest for thuggery, all the sudden he deserves mnore attention that our PRESIDENT Obama andn other brothers who have made it without acting like goons.
    Then we wonder why our black boys act a fool. Because *****ody gives a damn whne they behave, but do some coonery and you get all the attention.

    corperatecutieshayshay

    12/3/08, 19:44:pm

    @ sydney
    im still here so you have someone intelligent to talk to

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:02:pm

    LOL please where where where!!!

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:05:pm

    u aint slick please dont tell me you have had it better go get a check up!

    U Aint Slick

    12/3/08, 20:08:pm

    u aint slick please dont tell me you have had it better go get a check up!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    xcuse u

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:20:pm

    xcuse you.. cyber sex … duh!!!!!1

    U Aint Slick

    12/3/08, 20:29:pm

    xcuse you.. cyber sex … duh!!!!!1
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    is wasnt for u. the cyba sex is for someone else here dat luvs it. they know who they r.

    some1 else dont know about them yet

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:37:pm

    u aint slick … oh sorry luv i thought you were posting to me because i dont go for cyber sex but i see a lot of it on here and i cant even read others comments on the subject for all this cyber sex talk going on why the hell dont they get a damn room or email or chat room for the junk!

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:38:pm

    oh ok “quiety walking out of room with head hung down”" sorry!

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 20:40:pm

    hey u aint slick you think we can have a convo with out a butt-in .. if i butt-in wrongfully i will apologize cause i got it like that.

    U Aint Slick

    12/3/08, 20:52:pm

    i’m aight with dat.

    OBAMAmix

    12/3/08, 21:29:pm

    @ shaySHAY.(ORIGINAL NAME?). DAMN. LOOK AT YA SPELLING.. OR AS U WOULD PROB WRITE “SPEELING”..LOL.. NO NEED TO GET UPSET.. U JUS MAD U CANT PUT MAKE UP ON YA LIFE AND COVER UP THE FACT THIS IS YOUR ONLY CHANCE TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE.. I HOPE U GET A ‘HATERS MAG’ COVER SOON.. NOW SNEAK IN THE HOUSE SO U DONT WAKE UP YA KIDS AND 1 OF THEY DADDIES..

    Light Skinned is Back Inn

    12/3/08, 21:42:pm

    we is back babyyyyyy hahahaha

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/3/08, 22:16:pm

    obama mix, yeah i saw where she was arguing with a poster and put up how much money she makes and how many houses she got , man do you believe that i know a lot of folks who make good money drive nice cars own houses and would never get on a blog and brag about anything plus she cant spell worth a damn and then she want to talk about how she can come at a ***** please im sure the other quote unquote bloggers friends are going that ish is off her rocker.lol!!!!! I got a family member who makes bank wont say hoe much but shes in the law business and she doesnt even blog on the internet says she doesnt have time.

    Mock Rock Stardust(Mock Rock says Ima Ima a Diva)

    12/3/08, 22:31:pm

    U know what would be cool…if a man who knowing have a lady whom he has children by hw wouldn’t pose with women in such a suggestive way…people tend to imitate what they see even if it’s not true

    Mock Rock Stardust(Mock Rock says Ima Ima a Diva)

    12/3/08, 22:37:pm

    snoop bloggy blog

    can someone define self hate 2 me?

    if a black woman get a weave, is that self hate?
    if a white woman/man get tans, is that self hate?
    when black men/woman perm their hair is that self hate?
    ppl define self hate
    ——————————–
    Self hate is deliberately doing damage that U don’t care if it’s ever fixed in your life

    Seaweed21

    12/3/08, 23:40:pm

    Chicks on the cover are Chanta Patton and Daphne Joy. The theme of this cover should be the “LIGHT SKIN ISSUE”. Bright ***** cover! besides that this darkskin vs lightskin, self hatred bull sh%T is so 1992. why blog about it?write to people who really care about your thoughts.

    Seaweed21

    12/3/08, 23:41:pm

    I love ALLLLLLLLL women especially these two! LOVES EM!

    Seaweed21

    12/3/08, 23:42:pm

    SOON EVERYBODY WILL BE A MIX OF DIFFERENT MINORITIES>hahahahahah

    Seaweed21

    12/3/08, 23:43:pm

    THE SEXIEST BLACK and ASIAN WOMEN ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    chickmagnetstuff

    12/3/08, 23:52:pm

    the girl on the left is Hot!

    work24/7

    12/4/08, 00:00:am

    TINY should be aware of that HOE on the left. That chick on the right don’t speak english that Hoe on the left aint latino, her name is Chanta and she is just plain ol BLACK, … COINCIDENCE she was TI’s main Hoe at the MTV awards? DUH! they are f&ckin! ======TINY it doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.======= fake breast, fake smile, fake everything. the Tramp is FAKE!!!!!! Guess thats what fake guys like stupid trashy Unequivically, Unappealing, Undesirable, trash! HE CAN HAVE HER!

    *SIGH*

    12/4/08, 00:48:am

    People are so funny. “A cl*****y picture of TI and Tiny” are you serious? This is Blackmen magazine. Their goal is to sell magazines to MEN. They hardly even have men on the cover. The girl on the left is Black and the girl on the right is Filipino and Puerto Rican and they’re both beautiful.

    Sexiest asian alive?

    12/4/08, 01:13:am

    Sorry that asian girl beside T.I. is “okay”, she’s not ugly but she’s not the sexiest asian alive lol. T.I. should marry Tiny, as much as I could dream of having T.I. like everybody else who likes him, in reality, the man needs to commit to his baby mama. When all the money and hoes are gone, you can only have that one person who can really make you happy…(and that would be ME…I’m playin’!) much love to them both and to their kids

    Good for her

    12/4/08, 01:32:am

    I consider that filipina/puerto rican girl on the right lucky, if she were to go back to asia, they wouldn’t let her be a serious model. Like most other countries, light skin is considered a high status. Sure they love beyonce and will smith and any black actors, but when it comes to their own kind, being white light skinned is the key to being a celeb. And this situation is everywhere, India, Thailand and so on… and of course even in North America. So i give her props, and yet I agree that T.I. and Tiny would’ve been a better cover. I love xscape!

    JD's Revenge

    12/4/08, 01:41:am

    doasisaydo

    @ JDs Revenge: From what University did you get your degree?

    I got my degree from F.U.C.K. U., *****!

    1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals!--I'm not *****in' with martians, midgets, understudies or people who smell like goat cheese!!!

    12/4/08, 01:52:am

    “opportunities present themselves and I take advantage of them.”
    _____________________________________________________

    Is that how he got herpes?

    I’m just curious about his “opportunities.”

    1TruDiva w/The PlatinumVocals!--I'm not *****in' with martians, midgets, understudies or people who smell like goat cheese!!!

    12/4/08, 01:55:am

    Take notice BLACK WOMEN–how both women are pictured 1/2 naked while T.I’s fully clothed.

    SMMFH!!!!!!!!!!

    Erica

    12/4/08, 06:34:am

    this is insulting……..WHERE ARE THE BLK WOMEN? What kind of bs is this?..now the girl on the left could stay and he should of had a darker blk woman on his right…..see this is what they are feeding young blk boys/men

    BUT THEY KNOW WE DON’T LIKE IT AND THEY STILL DO IT..THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMMW HAT BLK WOMEN THINK.

    BeingMyself

    12/4/08, 08:14:am

    When I first saw the cover of the magazine, it made me laugh. T.I. trying to look like a pimp or player on the cover of the magazine. I would not take the cover of this magazine seriously even though many people raised some value points about the standard of beauty in America. As a woman, I would not want to take a picture like the two women on the magazine cover. I do think the two women are pretty though. I also believe the color of a person’s skin does not make them prettier than someone else. The facial features and personality determines if someone is beautiful and not the color of their skin in my opinion.

    Sandy Moloi

    12/4/08, 09:05:am

    I love this site it’s lank cool. . . It keeps me updated witha lota thangs. . .

    But there are some ish that i don’t believe especially about mu bwoi Kanye. . .Well we gat haters. . .

    Big ups

    BRIT

    12/4/08, 09:24:am

    I KNOW HIS WIFE IS UGLY AS HELL. SHE LOOKS LIKE A FAT LIGHT SKINNED MOUSE !! YUK

    Man, I just don't care

    12/4/08, 09:29:am

    @ILLUMINATE TRUTH
    “Long story short…..from MY experience men pay more attention to particular physical attributes as opposed to women. Name them? Brah, you aren’t in my circle so what good is that? Do you disagree with my observation? If so, state your opinion. I’m curious.”
    _______________________________________________________________

    Ok. Men do pay more attention to physical attributes. Do you think that is a “bad” thing?

    I asked for some examples of physical attributes that women YOU have spoken to because I wanted to know if YOU thought they were “influenced” by the media to find those attributes “desirable.”

    Why is your “circle” relevant?

    You want my “opinion” in what respect?

    BeingMyself

    12/4/08, 09:41:am

    People choosing not to write a favorable comment about a celebrity does not make them a hater. Not everything a celebrity does is good. We all are humans, which mean we are not perfect. We all have different opinions. When I read some posts about celebrities, I think some people are borderline fanatics and not just fans of an entertainer. IMO I understand your opinion (Sandy Moloi), but I just do not agree. I believe in the Fifth Amendment, and I use it every day. The “hater” word seems like a catchall word for comments not favorable to an entertainer.

    BeingMyself

    12/4/08, 09:43:am

    People choosing not to write a favorable comment about a celebrity does not make them a hater. Not everything a celebrity does is good. We all are humans, which mean we are not perfect. We all have different opinions. When I read some posts about celebrities, I think some people are borderline fanatics and not just fans of an entertainer. IMO I understand your opinion (Sandy Moloi), but I just do not agree. I believe in the First Amendment, and I use it every day. The “hater” word seems like a catchall word for comments not favorable to an entertainer.
    *edited LOL*

    da darkness

    12/4/08, 09:49:am

    i think the b-boys dress super fly. Even in sweats there’s that glow.

    do you work for Bossip ~~~~~~~

    12/4/08, 10:41:am

    Obama mix… tell that chick like it is she trys to come gangsta up in her in a cyber world about how much money she makes chick is sick and cant even spell, talks like a chicken head and the name shay shay LOL!

    James

    12/4/08, 11:17:am

    Of Course he’s on the cover with light bright close to white *****es because you *****z hate yourselves so all these so called “black” based business laugh at your ***** while you still give them your money like the brainwashed drones you are. You want to change it? stop being like white women black women take back your original image black women and men you think with your blond weave, blue contacts, bleached out skin you can be a white women?yea maybe in your projects not when a white ***** is around

    work24/7

    12/4/08, 11:41:am

    TINY should be aware of that HOE on the left. That chick on the right don’t speak english that Hoe on the left aint latino, her name is Chanta and she is just plain ol BLACK, … COINCIDENCE she was TI’s main Hoe at the MTV awards? DUH! they are f&ckin! ======TINY it doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.======= fake breast, fake smile, fake everything. the Tramp is FAKE!!!!!! Guess thats what fake guys like stupid trashy Unequivically, Unappealing, Undesirable, trash! HE CAN HAVE HER!

    work24/7

    12/4/08, 11:41:am

    TINY should be aware of that HOE on the left. That chick on the right don’t speak english that Hoe on the left aint latino, her name is Chanta Patton and she is just plain ol BLACK, … COINCIDENCE she was TI’s main Hoe at the MTV awards? DUH! they are f&ckin! ======TINY it doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.======= fake breast, fake smile, fake everything. the Tramp is FAKE!!!!!! Guess thats what fake guys like stupid trashy Unequivically, Unappealing, Undesirable, trash! HE CAN HAVE HER!

    work24/7ovatime

    12/4/08, 11:43:am

    TINY should be aware of that HOE on the left. That chick on the right don’t speak english that Hoe on the left aint latino, her name is Chanta and she is just plain ol BLACK, … COINCIDENCE she was TI’s main Hoe at the MTV awards? DUH! they are f&ckin! ======TINY it doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure that one out.======= fake breast, fake smile, fake everything. the Tramp is FAKE!!!!!! Guess thats what fake guys like stupid trashy Unequivically, Unappealing, Undesirable, trash! HE CAN HAVE HER!

    try_me

    12/4/08, 11:48:am

    So TI hates himself because he likes black, white, puerta rican and/or asians?? BLack woman are stuck in a time warp! Travel the world and expose yourself to different people that don’t look like you, or for the cheaper option, just be open minded and try new things. WARNING – a culture shock will occur and may cause this topic to suddenly appear STUPID and so 1992. hahahahaha

    HaitianKingdom

    12/4/08, 11:53:am

    Isn’t that the girl from the Akon “That GIrl is so Dangerous” on de left??? She’s HAITIAN!!!!! BWOP BWOP!

    HaitianKingdom

    12/4/08, 11:53:am

    Isn’t that the girl from the Akon “That GIrl is so Dangerous” on de left??? She’s HAITIAN!!!!! BWOP BWOP!

    HaitianKingdom

    12/4/08, 11:55:am

    HAHAHAHAHAHa! i love it! TI has swag so he can do it and pull it off! LEt a KIng alone, and appreciate your own gals! BWOP BWOP!

    Chelle

    12/4/08, 14:10:pm

    Never mind TI who are the chics?? All I can say say is damn!!!!

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