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no wonder the edmonds kids have such a big nose

Nothing interesting…most hollywood stars are doing it.

OMG. OK. I have to say that money really can make a person look better. The difference with Kimora Lee is astounding! And Tracey Edmonds’ is a cute girl, but damn! She really chopped off her “blackness” when she changed her damn nose. What happened to Halle Berry’s before and after?

good thing she got that “fixed” – else she would have never landed Eddie Murphy. you know, with him only dating “black” women, and all

with stuff like this sisters are the first to call brothers sell outs…interesting

looks better in the old pic to me….

ALL KIMORA NEEDS NOW IS SOME LIPO FOR THAT FAT NECK OF HERS…LMFAO!

My goodness…Tracey got a serious nose job. That is so…blatant.

And Kimora…she was really cute before, naturally pretty. But dammit if she hasn’t had the best nose job I’ve ever seen. Her and Kim. lol

But whoa– looks like Kimora had a lip reduction too! She had some thick lips in the before pic.

Who cares if you have the money do whateva makes you happy!!

Tracey actually looked cuter before.

Take that back about her lips…apparently they got plump afterwards: http://crunktastical.blogspot.com/2007/09/that-was-then-this-is-now.html

Okay…Tracey, WHATEVER! But can Kimi get something done with that neck. It looks horrible, like slouching socks!

Oh yeah, Tracy sure did change that shnause (Sha-Na-Zzle)

ohh please everyone in plastic wood wants to be white beyonce has had 2 nosejobs and i think thats why she hooked up with jay when the kids come out ugly everyone will automaticall balme jay z. if she was with a hot man and they have ok kids it will be clear that her features are man made. fake ass fake hair fake tits thats hollywood for you..

Kimora’s black features actually stand out more these days, than when she was a model.

Back in the day, I did not know she was mixed with black. I love that the black features show more today! Both in her facial features, and her style, and personality

Where is the hate that Kim k. gets for her suspected enhancement surgery?

I like before & after pics. I was think the exact same thing about the fat in Kimora’s neck. Where are the pics of Tyra’s and Kelly Roland’s noses…and remember Mariah’s bottom jaw back in the day? She looked like a squirrel hiding some nuts.

So what?!! I’m sure if you could afford to have something “fix” you would.

kims looks the same to me

I think that when done professionally, and WISELY, plastic surgery isn’t such a bad thing. Let’s face it, everyone has SOMETHING they wish they could fix, tweak, or get rid of all together. As long as U don’t go around looking like Joan Rivers, u cool! Lol!! I know I’m getting LASIK in a few months, I’m tired of wearing contact lenses!! Kimora’s nose looks good…and I didn’t know Beyonce had a nose job…wow.

tracey’s top lip looks bigger too

I dont get whats the big deal. If you dont like something about yourself and changing it makes you feel better about yourself, so what. Not only celebs get plastic surgery, average folks are getting it too. The percentage of minorities getting plastic surgery is rising every year. You only live once, be happy while you are here.

Almost half celebs have nose jobs. Trust me. None of you would be on these people’s balls without it. Amerie

Alicia Keys

Kelly Rowlands

Toni Braxton

Beyonce

Patti LaBelle

Halle Berry

As long as you’re not looking crazy like Michael, Janet, LaToya, the rest of the Jacksons, Tiny or Lil Kim, who cares? If you color your hair, wear a weave, have a relaxer, they are just as fake. BTW, white celebs with major nose jobs:

Olsen twins

Tom Cruise

Angelina Jolie

Nicole Kidman

Jennifer Aniston

Madonna

Demi Moore

Katie Holmes

Paris Hilton

Gwyneth Paltrow

sorry, this woman is ugly.

Hey Daria

Don’t forget J-Lo & Kim Kardashian had nose jobs too!

Where I grew up kids got nose jobs for their bat mitzva & bah mitzvah’s.

It was very common in my day & imagine it’s more so now. Lol kids would return from Christmas vacation with the blackened eyes & taped noses. You were considered poor & trailer park status if you didn’t get a nose job!

In my world nose jobs are viewed the same as getting your child braces when they turn 9…

PEOPLE: IF YOUR KID NEEDS FIXING DO THEM A FAVOR & GET THEM THE DANG HELP!!!!

If she didn’t have it fixed folx would be talking her pics the way they talk about Lil Momma’s pics

damn she had her upper lip done too…

People The Fat in Kimora’s neck is a result of multiple lipo surgeries….if you have saddlebags for instance & your small everywhere else when you have the saddlebag area lipoed & you gain weight the fat will just be re-deposited somewhere else! Let’s say you keep going back & getting lipoed in every spot of your body…when you gain weight that fat HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE so it’ll start being deposited in weird areas like your feet, hands, NECK ect. well you get the point!

So what?

looking at Kimora’s before pic- Woof! I’ve seen pictures of her early years & all I can say is…THANK GOD FOR PLASTIC SURGEONS

She looks very very tranny & I can see WHY Russy Russ fell for her. He’s said in interviews that he has a thing for the ‘big round face’ but that must have been subsided when Kimora started getting plastic surgery. I think once her tranny look went away so did his love for her!

either picture (before and after) I think both women are still beautiful. I don’t see why people make a big deal about cosmetic surgery. It’s when you lie about it that make it an issue.

Kimora really looked chinese back in the day!

Um… not one is commenting on Kimora’s new found “blackness”.. how come she didn’t show that tanning bed she uses every other day on Cribs??

i’m glad Tracey “fell victim” to the surgeon’s knife. i’m also glad she fell victim to the eyebrow lady’s wax. she looks like a muppet in that before shot.

What difference does it make if someone wants to have plastic surgery? Patty LaBell had a noice job.Ohhhhhhh… big deal.

@Here we go again

Kimora is 25% Korean 25% Japanese and 50% African American.

I dont think every time a person looks diffent it has to be because of Plastic surgery. Granted a lot of celebs have gone under the knife. Put some just have awesome makeup artists that know how to change the look of those “trouble” features. Using shadows and bronzers can make a nose “appear” altered. Just a thought.

Kimora looks the same to me in the face besides the weight gain in her face and neck. Her nose looks the same. Also she’s darker than her younger years..

Tracy needed that nose job..She looks much better.

Now that I think about it how does anyone even know this is true? Take a picture of you from 2nd grade and compare it (for those who are old enough) to a pic from college. Do you look the exact same?

And the point is what? If she did or didn’t – I could care less. The fact that anyone does is just plain silly.

Her nose looks the same to me. My vision is perfect and that nose looks exactly the same to me

You can put on your make up in a way that will make your nose look smaller, eyes look bigger, eyelashes fuller…doesn’t mean plastic surgery.

And I dare somebody to pull out my 6th grad picture with the Gheri Curl….GEESH

And for an 80′s – 90′s pic Tracey looks damn good.

Kimora looks better with the meat on her bones.

Tracey basically looks the same to me-she has always been very beautiful to me…Kimora too-if anything the biggest difference is how much darker she looks now thanks to all the bronzing and tanning she has going on….color looks great on her. She was really pale before…

See fellas, if ya’ll insist on being obsessed with the Traceys, Kimoras, Kim K’s, and Mariahs of the world… make enough money to create one.

The problem is that most nose jobs don’t age well, and the nostrils look too big or pinched because your face and bone structure at 20 is different from when you’re 40. Notice how Vivica’s just looks crazy now. IDK – I think I like both of the befores better

Good point, Detroit. The older Janet Jackson gets, the smaller her nose looks, too.

So what. If I had the money I would have one and a tummy tuck. It must be a slow Beyonce day.

Tracy looks like she’s also been bleaching her skin. I guess the word ‘self-love’ means nothing in the black community because we are all too busy chasing the European beauty standard.

I agree 100% with SHAWN (post #5) who says that the women cannot call the men sell outs anymore. If the black celebrity men are dating white women, what, exactly, is the difference when a lot of the black women are trying to look more European anyway? This would indicate to me that not only do the black men think that, somehow, white women are more beautiful, but that black women must think it also if we are changing our features to be more European.

Someone, please, explain the difference to me…

You know, on Kimora’s before and after picture, how can you tell a person got a nose job using a frontal pic vs a profile pic? You’d think it be better judged with profile vs profile, or frontal vs frontal. Just a thought.

Y’all complain about Kim K getting knifed up and being fake, but now you on here saying its okay, everyone does it.

@ Ttime

“If the black celebrity men are dating white women, what, exactly, is the difference when a lot of the black women are trying to look more European anyway? This would indicate to me that not only do the black men think that, somehow, white women are more beautiful, but that black women must think it also if we are changing our features to be more European”

More often than not sistas go under the knife to be more appealing to men! So if your theory is true {which I doubt} who’s really to blame?

It is certainly the brothas blame! When ever a brotha has to promote a movie, art show, party ect. he automatically runs out & makes a mad dash for an asian, latina or caucasian woman.

Lil Kim said that she initially began rockin blue contacts & blonde hair because all the brothas in her cypher where busy chasing caucasian & european women!! Kim was being over looked by the men she wanted to attract!! Why do brothas blame her for feeling the need to be on equal playing grounds? In her delusional mind she needed the blonde hair & blue eyes to be attractive to BROTHAS!

So brothas don’t blame the sistas for the madness yall created…if you don’t believe me why don’t you catch the latest video on BET & tell me when the last time you saw a dark skinned sista with negroid features as a featured chick {not back turned to camera shaking her rump in the camera for dear life} Or better yet tell me when the last time Jamie Fox, Will Smith, Sam Jackson or Denzel Washington had a dark skinned black woman with kinky hair, wide broad nose & large lips as a LOVE interest???

Now get back at me!

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@Ttime

The difference is choice. Who said that you can only date your own color? Personal preference has no color boundaries.

its almost like a different person. What a difference. But its a subtle differnce

Black women r not getting nose jobs ‘cos of black men.

Until rappers started talking about Louis Vuiton, the average Joe on the street could not tell the difference. Currently the average Joe might know a bad weave job, but I personally do not know of any man that tell the difference between a $300 and $1000 weave, or explain what a lace front is.

Most women do this stuff(designer bags, weaves, surgery)to compete with and outdo each other.

If anything it would make more sense to Europeanize your features if you wanted to appeal more to white folk not brothers, if it were because of brothers there would be an outbreak of booty implants . On d other hand, how many brothers get nose jobs , hmmmmm….. Certainly not Snipes, or Taye Diggs, Terrence Howard, or Eddie, or Jay Z, or……..

wow u can definately see that

@Ttime

I think black women (and women in general) are having plastic surgery to achieve the “perfect” features. Your logic doesn’t really make any sense. Are Caucasian women running out and having nose surgery (ie: Jennifer Annistion, Angelina Jolie, Ashlee Simpson, etc) to appear even more European? No…they just want their features to be smaller or bigger depending on what they’re getting done.

BlackWomenJustDontListen- Yes, most black women do get nose jobs to be more attractive to black men. If all they see are black men chasing after & lusting for white & latinas then the average black woman is going to do what it takes to be more like the white & latin chick.

Black features are not considered cute when they are on a black woman. Take large the large lips off of Oprah & place them on Sienna Miller & Sienna is considered gorgeous. Look at Scarlett Johansen, if she looked the same exact way but only dark skinned black w/ coarse hair she’d not be considered beautiful—it’s just not fair.

Who cares? People get nose jobs. Next.

@KDogg

Now a Days to ONLY have a nose job is a good thing

@Lady A … What’s up Sexxy

if you see tracey in person or on tv not in pics you will see her nose is extremely deformed. its crooked and one nostril is bigger than the other. i am serious. i notice this when she was married to babyface. i looks awful. i always thought she fell and broke it but maybe it is just a botched surgery that cannot be fixed…oh well

“The problem is that most nose jobs don’t age well, and the nostrils look too big or pinched because your face and bone structure at 20 is different from when you’re 40. Notice how Vivica’s just looks crazy now. IDK – I think I like both of the befores better.”–detroit

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True. Any reputable plastic surgeon will not do any elective cosmetic procedure that is so extensive that it undermines a person’s facial integrity (e.g. Michael Jackson). Then, there are those surgeons that will do as much work as you want, knowing you are going to end up like a halloween freak show (e.g. Michael Jackson).

I always wondered why Tracey’s lips (especially the top lip) were crooked. Now I see she had work done on her lips.

Tracey needs to go back and have the left side of her top lip plumped up a little more. It is much thinner than the right side.

Also, the nose she had before looked better and more balanced with those plump cheeks. Now she has that tiny, keen nose sitting between those wide chipmunk cheeks.

She still has a big pumpkin head.

awwww who gives a damn???!!! what the hell do ya’ll want ppl 2 do??? if ppl were goin around talkin about all the work they’ve had done, folks would be complaining about that 2. jesus, let it go already!! she still looked pretty in her old picture anyway. if ya’ll gone put somebody on blast, make sure it’s a SIGNIFICANT difference that has REALLY changed their look. moving on…..

forget about the nose. Should people of color be hitting the tanning salon like that?

why she gotta be “knifed up” ??? i know ppl who’s noses get slimmer as they age! lol. yeah right!!

They can’t even lie about there nose jobs especially Tracey her before and after pic is so obvious.

Ion’t know about knifed up, but I do know Tracy looked crazy as hell in the before pic.

Eddie betta watch out. She has the same eyes as that chick who faked her kidnapping to avoid a marriage a few year back!

As for Kimorra…she also got a skin job. She looks more Black than Korean now. I know she’s biracial, but damn. How you gonna go from yella to cappicino?

Sep 25, 2007 – 5:49 pm

anonymous

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BlackWomenJustDontListen- Yes, most black women do

Black features are not considered cute when they are on a black woman…..

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Wow, so MOST brothers like nice booties when they belong to non-black women better,news to me. It is white folk I see raving whenwhite girls like the Jessicas (Alba+Biel) that got a few curves but give no attention to all the sisters that look way better without the personal trainer and surgery.

It is prolly OTHER WOMEN saying that men that black men like thin lips an all dat mess cos they read it in some magazine. Ask the men u know if they know the difference in the bags, weaves, french manicure

n all dat, ull find most of us dont know n dont care, thin lips included. Thats the average Joe, if all yall shooting for Murph and Simmons, cant say nuttin bout dat, but realize them two are very far from typical in any community of any color.

If its all bout black men where is the booty implants then?

OOh…on the noses…I love KLS, so since you have the ends, how bout the neck???

Why oh why do people who were pretty/attractive in the first place mess with what God gave them? Tracy’s nose before was fine; what’s more, it balanced her face and cheeks. Her new teeny tiny nose looks lost in all that face! Oh well, as long as she’s happy!

And Kimora’s original cute black nose looked adorable with her cute chinese eyes – why did she have to go and pay all that money to the surgeon?

I’ll never understand why these Hollyweirdo’s mess with the good looks that got them fame in the first place. They all do it. Sad.

You ought to put some before and after pix of Halle Berry up there too because the nose she’s got now is certainly different then the Miss Ohio nose.

Thank God for plastic surgery because if it had not been for her nose job she would not have been able to snag Baby Face & definitely wouldn’t have pulled Eddie Murphy!

Yall men on this board are a bunch of phonies!! You know good & well that a person’s attractiveness is judged on her facial features. Now you guy’s want me to believe that a broad nosed chick would still be wifed? Nah, I deal in facts & logic & like the other poster said Why hasn’t a dark skinned sista with african qualities ever been hoisted up onto a pedestal? Why are the women who are considered beauties in our community sistas like: Beyonce, Alicia Keyes, Rhianna, Mya, Halle Berry?

Maybe if we had more diversity within our own standards things would be different. Why is it that Alek Wek is not a household name she’s been in the modeling industry for years & she’s very beautiful.

I’m usually slow to agree that someone had a nose job based on a picture because there are such things as makeup, camera lighting, and photoshopping. HOWEVER, Tracey definitely had a nose job. She reminds me of Halle pre-nose job.

Its lame but wuteva……people are always saying love yaself…..but are quick to go under a knife but its their life..and if they feel comfortable with it then so be it.

it’s pretty obvious tracy and kimora had nose jobs but i don’t think beyonce and kim kardashian did…look at pictures of them when they were young, they look the same as far as facial features but obviously they have way more makeup and their hair is perfectly styled so they do look better. i hate it when ppl assume that just cause you’re pretty you’ve had surgery. yeah, some stars do it, but not all!

i used to agree that the thinning of the nose via plastic surgery was but another attempt to ‘bleach’ our black uniqueness so black women could finally be accepted into the cult of true womanhood. However, you have more white women, and men, who get nose jobs everyday. It is very common in the white community, and more white actresses and actors get nose jobs to simply look better. Are white people trying to look white? Then we have more white women getting lip enhancements and skin tanners/bronzers; are they trying to look black? While I think we should all just appreciate our God-given beauty, we have to be careful of how we judge ppl, because the same persons who are arguing that it’s a disgrace that these ppl are thinning their noses, are the same ppl who probably call their black sistas ‘big nose @$%!’ when they come to blows.

in essence, do you and let’s stop being so judgmental. Cindy Crawford couldve removed her mole, Angelina couldve thinned her lips, but instead they turned heads with their uniqueness and we loved it. so let’s go be unique

How can you use a side profile pic of Kimora as a comparison photo?

“European features” is non sense. Most of Hollywood (which is White) has had work done, especially on their noses. What are they trying to look like? But when a black celebrity does it there must be some self-hate motive, give me a break.