Bay Area Police Murder Black Man in Public
Posted by Bossip Staff
Damn, y’all, a black man’s life was worth less than the spent cartridge used to end it out in Cali as police put a cap in him while he was lying on the ground:
Law enforcement officials urged patience while they investigated details surrounding the fatal New Year’s Day shooting of a 22-year-old man by a transit agency police officer.
Bay Area Rapid Transit Police Chief Gary Gee said on Sunday that the agency is “committed to completing an unbiased, thorough and detailed investigation” of the shooting death of Oscar Grant.
“This case is not even four days cold. We’re in the early stages of the investigation and we will do a very thorough job,” he said.
Several unanswered questions remained after BART officers went to Oakland’s Fruitvale station to investigate reports of a supposed brawl on a train on which Grant was riding around 2 a.m. Thursday.
A friend of Grant’s who was with him on the crowded Oakland train station platform at the time of the shooting said Grant pleaded with officers not to harm him.
“Oscar yelled, ‘You shot me! I got a four-year-old daughter,”‘ said Fernando Anicete. “Oscar was telling us to calm down and we did. We weren’t looking for any trouble.”
Anicete was among more than 50 people attending a tearful news conference in Oakland on Sunday where Grant’s family announced they planned to file a $25 million claim against the Bay Area Rapid Transit agency this week. A claim is the first step in the process of suing the agency.
The family’s attorney John Burris said the shooting was intentional, and that he planned to ask Alameda County prosecutors to seek criminal charges against the officer. Burris said Grant, of Hayward, Calif., posed no threat to officers when a bullet entered his back and ricocheted to his lung area, killing him almost instantly.
You gotta be f*cking kidding that the police out in Cali are still executing blacks and other minorities with no regard. This is some bullsh*t and we’re glad the family is seeking retribution. R.I.P. young brother.
Click here to see the disturbing footage of the actual shooting.
Some sad pics remembering Oscar below.
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sickness, damn shame
this shit is sick and it shows that bs is happening all over the country not just the south. Prayers to the fam
HOLY SHIT
Yikes…Very sad.
Get a grip.. Bossip is not helping anything with this BS…This is the problem with blogs. No journalistic accountability.
YOU DON’T KNOW THE DETAILS AND YOU IDIOTS FREQUENTLY POST FALSE INFO AND THEN DON’T SAY SH!T TO CORRECT YOURSELF.
BUT GOOD JOB BOSSIP GEEKS. SINCE I AM SURE YOU’LL BE LEADING THE CHARGE IN THE OAKLAND REVOLUTION….or maybe you’ll stay seated behind your computer looking for interracial couples to talk sh!t about…..
Racisim is STILL alive and doing very well!
Damn
I’m sorry, but that footage didn’t show anything, but some unruly, intoxicated revelers engaging in disorderly behavior. The police were justified in their response.
First? Damn, I would say it’s an honor to be first finally on this closeted racist website that cloakes its distain for african americans in humor and black political support…..But it’s NOT. SMH
Don’t pretend you care about the kid getting murders by Cali One-time Bossip. Your staff and owners probably carved another notch on your desk and popped champange after finding this story. Bastards.
From today’s San Francisco Chronicle, sfgate.com:
(01-05) 22:30 PST PST Oakland — Five days have passed since a BART police officer shot and killed an unarmed rider on a station platform, but the officer has not given a statement to investigators about what happened and the transit agency has apparently not forced him to do so.
The delay comes as witnesses emerge with their accounts of what happened, some with video footage of the incident recorded on cellular phones. The hold-up is one reason why BART officials – even in the face of public outcry – have said little publicly about the shooting, including whether they believe it was justified.
BART has not released the officer’s name, but The Chronicle has learned that the officer is two-year BART police veteran Johannes Mehserle, who turned 27 on Monday and whose first child was born within a day or two of the shooting – an event that may be a contributing factor to why Mehserle has not yet explained the shooting to investigators.
Mehserle could not be reached for comment on Monday.
Officials have only said that Mehserle’s gun discharged, killing 22-year-old Oscar Grant of Hayward. He had been detained and forced to lie chest down on the ground at Oakland’s Fruitvale Station after 2 a.m. in the chaotic aftermath of a fight on BART on New Year’s Day. BART has promised a thorough probe, and Alameda County prosecutors are investigating as well, as is standard in officer-involved shootings.
But the delay is troubling to John Burris, the Oakland attorney who is representing Grant’s family and who plans to file a $25 million damage claim today against the transit agency, a legal precursor to a civil lawsuit. Burris is also calling for the officer to be charged criminally.
I’m not one for violence, I’m a mother but when the “authorities” have no regard or respect for our lives, we must defend oursleves by any means necessary. Just as they do. Stay awake in “09″ yall.
***getting murdered by Cali One-time.
UGH!! F**K BART Police. They shouldn’t even have real guns due to the fact they don’t do crap at the station. I’m from Oakland and this just saddens my heart that they are still doing unnecessary crap. I thought by leaving the BAY things would get a little bit better but I guess I was wrong. I hope they get charged with the murder and the family wins. My hearts go out to them and his daughter.
tell it H-town
Well my heart goes out to his family however it’s just another example of that the black male could avoid if he would get himself together and stop all that violent bullshit. I mean what were these cops to do? Sit back and allow these people to terrorize passengers in the station?? Why were they fighting in a station anyway? Don’t they know how densly populaton transit stations are?? The black male needs to stop acting like an animal and learn to conduct himself properly in public and most of all stop resisting arrest. That tape clearly shows that he was resisting. Perhaps thats how the accident happened…
Ya’ll kill me on here!
bossip gets on my nerves too but evryone who is sittng here talking ahit about it comes on EVERYDAY posting comments! so who really is the pathetic?
check the other videos below the original. It shows more details.
And for all the people yelling racism – the cop whose gun discharged was black…
@smdh
SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BLACK MALE SHIT
MAN iM OUT CUS I WILL NOT SPEND AN AFTERNOON ARGUING WITH THIS DICK CRAVING, BALL SUCKING BLACK MAN LOVER!
BITCH PLEASE GET OVER IT HE LEFT YOU!! GO FIND ANOTHER MAN MY GOD ALL BALCK MEN AINT SHIT CUS SHE FOUND ONE WHO DID HER DIRTY
HOE PLEASE SIT DOWN!!
God Bless the dead, Bossip and Co (Hi M Flay), thanks for doing a post on this. This is tragic. The “officer” has not even been forced to give a statement yet.
hey SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,you gone start up today lol the officer was black? i’m sure u think he deserves a metal for getting anothe thug off the streets am I correct lol
“SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BLACK MALE SHIT
MAN iM OUT CUS I WILL NOT SPEND AN AFTERNOON ARGUING WITH THIS DICK CRAVING, BALL SUCKING BLACK MAN LOVER!
BITCH PLEASE GET OVER IT HE LEFT YOU!! GO FIND ANOTHER MAN MY GOD ALL BALCK MEN AINT SHIT CUS SHE FOUND ONE WHO DID HER DIRTY
HOE PLEASE SIT DOWN!!”
As I said maybe if he wasn’t resisting arrest he would be alive right now. This black male needs to take some blame as well.
Or is it the black womans fault that he was out in a public station jeopardizing the safety of passengers and resisted arrest when he was cornered???
@SMDH
Before you lay blame on the victim, I hope you have watched the video, which is very disturbing and chilling. The young woman who took the video describes what she saw first-hand, and she clearly thinks that there was no wrongdoing or resistance to the officers displayed by the young man in question.
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@SMDH…..Bossip won’t even post the whole story, what makes you think they would mention the cop was black?
Certainly there’s racism in America (shit, there racism all over here), and certainly, blacks have it worse off, but it would be nice if Bossip thought first before posting inciniary half-truths before all the information comes out.
Again, Bossip folks…I hope to see y’all out on the front lines against the Oakland police. If you gonna talk tough and incite anger, you better not be sitting back and searching for photos of Kim K…
But yeah, how come I never hear about some black kid who’s an honor student and dresses like he has a job???
Are the cops not racist against them? Seems to me that all of the “victims” in these cases are always people either involved in trouble, or with a history of it.
Regardless, another young black man dies. It certainly would be nice if our law enforcement put a higher premium on a young black life (no matter the history or clothes), but I think that we can’t expect outside forces to respect the lives of our young men until we show that we respect those lives ourself.
Wow…
I hope that they are looking for more than just the money… A lot of these police are no different than the criminals, and for that they should be locked up…
“hey SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,you gone start up today lol the officer was black? i’m sure u think he deserves a metal for getting anothe thug off the streets am I correct lol”
I think he does.. I am tired of unruly violent black males holding this race hostage. Now I’m sorry the male is dead – which is alot more than us sistas would have gotten from the black male had this been a black woman who was killed – however I will lay blame where blame is due and this black male was in the process of doing what black males do best – HOLDING THEIR RACE HOSTAGE and he ended up on the losing end of the game. It’s not my fault, it’s his..
This is from an editorial in today’s San Francisco Chronicle, sfgate.com:
The raw cell-phone videos captured by witnesses on the train do not look promising for the BART police. The BART police do not have their own video – there’s a live camera feed that goes to the department from the Fruitvale station, but they haven’t had the money to upgrade their equipment so that it can record. This presents a crucial issue – what if there had been no witnesses with video recorders?
The atmosphere as shown in the videos is loud and contentious, but not violent – the young men who were removed from the train are sitting, not fighting, and the numerous police officers look calm. Oscar Grant, 22, is clearly shown on his knees, putting his hands up, and attempting to cooperate with officers.
Shortly afterward, two of the officers push him face down on the ground, with some effort, and then one of them fires the fatal shot. It’s difficult to see what is happening in the few seconds before the shot, but the police officer who fired it had better have an awfully good explanation about why an unarmed man with his face on the ground was an imminent threat.
Soy Sauce…. whats up my lady? i have been on vacation to rialto cali, but im back and loaded with work. I got a email saying Z wanted to join our sauce family as hot sauces wife.. What do you think???
“incendiary half-truths”
More:
“So far, we haven’t heard a peep about what the possible reasons could have been. Who is this police officer? BART’s chief spokesman, Linton Johnson, said that it’s department procedure not to identify him, but it makes BART officials look like they aren’t responsive to the public. And it makes them look really unresponsive to plead for “patience” – as BART Police Chief Barry Gee did – but to have no explanation as to why the officer who fired the shot hasn’t been interviewed yet. The shooting was six days ago. It’s not like they don’t know who the officer is or where to find him. Johnson said that there may not even be an interview – without explaining why there might not be – which is distressing news.”
People we dont know what happened yet
@betty
You think this crew cares….The internet warriors and gangstas are going to get revenge!!!!
Right….studio gangstas…the lot of you…
Truth…..I beg to differ. This story is very news worthy…..Bossip gives you the source….that’s where you will find the journalistic accountability.
This story happened on New Years Day. Here it is January 6th and this is my first time hearing about this. No Bossip is not the only site that I visit; I haven’t even seeb this story on CNN and I check CNN every hour that I am awake.
Basically, my point is this, if you are not in the vicinity where these crimes takes place, then you probably would have never known that the police (even in Cali)still assasinate us with no remorse whatsoever.
And people wonder why black people don’t talk to the police….
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And you black @ss nigga’s, the most hated, the most despised species on earth, have the nerve to discriminate against your own according to hair texture and skin complexion.
Hey cali,cALL ya country cousins down south if ya’ll need a little help dealing with these white devils! Jena6 was only the beginning!
@ Opie
I guess the name would explain why you think shooting someone in the back while they are lying down is justified?
This shit is ridiculous and can’t be excused or even “explained.”
Why isn’t the mayor professing to prosecute to the “fullest extent of the law” as the mayor of New York did against Plaxico Burress?
SMH. This was done by the police on tape and I doubt it gets a tenth of the “coverage” of Caylee Anthony.
So the cop who did the shooting was black!!! damn thats messed up! But we all with sense knoe racism still exists even from the whites that smile in your face, some folks think by all this interracial dating it stopped .. NOT.. i dated a white woman before (long story) but never again!
how does a cops weapon discharge?
This has nothing to do with how “black males” are. This was a young Black man who was UNARMED, and HANDCUFFED.
There is no justification for taking this mans life. So what if there was an altercation at the station? No one should be dead behind this. There is no way I could be in the bay area right now and that was my brother.. there would be one dead ass cop right now. Trust.
“@SMDH…..Bossip won’t even post the whole story, what makes you think they would mention the cop was black?”
The cop looks like a lightskinned black male or some form of a minority to me in the videos I have watched.
“Certainly there’s racism in America (shit, there racism all over here), and certainly, blacks have it worse off, but it would be nice if Bossip thought first before posting inciniary half-truths before all the information comes out.”
Hey – why make it about race anyway?? See thisis what I mean when I say the black male wants this race game both ways. He wants everyone to forget race and join hands when he wants a white woman on his arm but the minute something foes down in the commission of him being asked to answer to a crime in some form all the sudden race is at the forefront. It’s pretty disgusting if you ask me.. This guy was resisting arrest after being a part of a very serious gang fight in a public station. He needs to take some responsibility for it. I’m sorry he’s dead but the cop didn’t ask for this situation either. He was called to subdue the violent black male yet again.. Don’t you think cops get tired of that shit?!?!
“Again, Bossip folks…I hope to see y’all out on the front lines against the Oakland police. If you gonna talk tough and incite anger, you better not be sitting back and searching for photos of Kim K…”
AMEN but we know Kim Kardashian will win everytime.. Yet again we as black wome nare beingasked to get all riled up for a group of men who could give a flying fuck about anything that affects the black womans life – the same black male who thought Don Imus’ ignorant ass comments were “funny”. I’m tired of it. Lets start holding him as accountable as he tried to hold us in that thread yesterday about that monkey who killed his 2 year old child.. Before long he’ll be trying to blame us for this here too..
“But yeah, how come I never hear about some black kid who’s an honor student and dresses like he has a job???”
Perhaps he’s too rare or he’s not the one acting so violent a cop feels a need to pul la weapon on him – go fiure!!!
“Are the cops not racist against them? Seems to me that all of the “victims” in these cases are always people either involved in trouble, or with a history of it.”
I agree 1,000,000%.. This is the very point I’ve been making. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!! The cop did not just pull a black male out of a crowd and shoot him. That black male put himself in a position to be shot.
“Regardless, another young black man dies. It certainly would be nice if our law enforcement put a higher premium on a young black life (no matter the history or clothes), but I think that we can’t expect outside forces to respect the lives of our young men until we show that we respect those lives ourself.”
AMEN!! Well the black male has to value his own life before any cop will..
It is very unsettling and suspicious — as noted by prominent news outlets in the area — that the officer in question has not yet issued a statement.
The Oakland Tribune also has coverage of the shooting, insidebayarea.com.
Looks like he’s holding something white in the photo. lol…
I’m gone say some isht yall disagree wit, but its true: all those ignant, loud ass lil niccas should have been at home in bed at 2 AM. They shouldnt have been actin like out of control heathens on a public terminal, hollerin at the police and steppin to em (escalating isht was unnecessary and dangerous). I woulda shot ever nigga with the nerve to approach me while im doing my job, let alone struggle when i tell their arse to get the hell down. If I have to break a sweat, Im breakin yo neck nigga. Promise! The only “unanswered question” is why the hell werent they taught better at home. The lesson – beat yo dam kids so they wont have to get shot later on!
How can you justify shooting a man that is HANDCUFFED… good luck with explaining that shit.
and who gives a fuck if the cop that shot him was black? He probably was some self hating mutha fuckas like some of these fools on bossip.
While I am saddened by the fact that another brother was killed, after watching the footage, I am not going to jump to conclusions. There was a lot of yelling, f the police taunts, etc. I put myself in the place of the cops and I would be scared in that situation. I can’t see if the guy was intentionally shot or the gun actually did go off but I agree with Soy Sauce, we have got to learn how to conduct ourselves in public, this footage shows exactly how alot of our youths behave and it is not pretty. Get it together! I pray for the family, it is tragic.
Niggas need to practice staying in the house sometimes!!!
@NINA KNOWS
“How can you justify shooting a man that is HANDCUFFED… good luck with explaining that shit.
and who gives a fuck if the cop that shot him was black? He probably was some self hating mutha fuckas like some of these fools on bossip.”
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LOL. You ain’t lyin. What’s up?
@HONESTY4U
“While I am saddened by the fact that another brother was killed, after watching the footage, I am not going to jump to conclusions. There was a lot of yelling, f the police taunts, etc. I put myself in the place of the cops and I would be scared in that situation. I can’t see if the guy was intentionally shot or the gun actually did go off but I agree with Soy Sauce, we have got to learn how to conduct ourselves in public, this footage shows exactly how alot of our youths behave and it is not pretty. Get it together! I pray for the family, it is tragic.”
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WTF????? U need to “Honestly” STFU.
@Nina Knows
Ooohh girl, you sound GANGSTA!!!!
You woulda got thems cops huh?
Trust….
lol. You are full of sh!t. Internet Gangsta=Nina Knows……
You wouldn’t know a fight if someone punched you in the face. Those familiar with real violence don’t talk rubbish on blogs about how badass they are.
Grow up.
Trust…lol….
“@SMDH
Before you lay blame on the victim, I hope you have watched the video, which is very disturbing and chilling. The young woman who took the video describes what she saw first-hand, and she clearly thinks that there was no wrongdoing or resistance to the officers displayed by the young man in question.”
LOL!! Now yesterday you all were blaming the murder of a 2 year old baby not on the murdering piece of shit but on the mother as if she handing this child over to be killed.. There were more people who felt the mother was guilty than the ape that stabbed the baby – but I have to “step back” and try to see where this guy who was resisting arrest afetr participating in a violent brawl is the victim?
Watch the video yourself and you will see that he was resisting arrest!! Wyy do you think 5 damn cops were necessary anyway?!?
Try again. These cops need a fair shake as well.. They were doing their jobs..
If we had betrayed and f*cked over you sorry @ss niggas(the way you have us) starting from plantation days up until say, the 1900’s, YOU WOULD BE EXTINCT. (here, at least) F*ck what the police is capable of…. Really, we should have gotten rid of your asses LOOOONNNNGGGGGG ago!
[...] live footage (link) of this encounter will curdle anyones’ blood. It is sad but there has been no indication [...]
People WAKE UP!!
This is what they want you to do, watch this turn into a black man vs. black women segment again.
They want us to hate each other, and make up reasons not to deal with each other. Stop doing the white mans.. oops I mean devils work, by sepearating ourselves… from ourselves.
Black men this and black women that…. One of our brothas lost his life. I’m sick of this stupid fuck shit. we getting fucked off everyday… by our own damn dumb ass people. Now we have another child without a father who wanted to be there.
smh for real.
“and who gives a fuck if the cop that shot him was black? He probably was some self hating mutha fuckas like some of these fools on bossip.”
But why is race even an issue here?? Isn’t it the black male always telling us sistas that we are racist and living in the past when we have an issue with him abandoning his own for Becky?? Why race all the sudden now?? Why aren’t we still holding hands singing Kumbaya?? It’s just another example of the black male wanting the race game both ways..
Very sad, Will this type is ish ever end?
@SMDH
Oh brother. . .
Did you see the editorial written by a brother who’s an editorial writer for the Times-Picayune that I posted today, by the way? I think you’ll find it very insightful, and, yes, he takes the suspect to task for his actions.
It was very powerful not only because of its focus on the horrific crime against a child, but he described his relationship with his own father, and the bonds between fathers and sons.
smdh
this is an execution! the guy was unarmed so why the fuck did they have to shoot? there is a story behind that! cops just don’t kill people for nothing. I being naive i know. Idk, maybe because im a woman and i’ve neer been in serious trouble, cops have always been nice to me! One day, I asked some cops my way and they took me to the place i wanted to go! some of them are really nice! I love NY Cops, i took some pictures with them when i was in NY! They love tourists
Again….I am waiting for someone to show me an example of some black honor student pulled out of the crowd and randomly killed.
You want to know why EVEN BLACK AND LATINO cops are trigger happy around young black and latino thugs (or those pretending to be thugs)???
BECAUSE 90% OF THE CRIME THEY DEAL WITH IS COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK AND LATINO MEN.
Now it looks like this young man’s death was a tragedy. But those who see this simply as COPS=KKK are stupid and uninformed.
Sorry, cops aren’t out looking for n*gg*s to kill, they are fighting criminals, who in large urban cities all look like this young man.
Imagine going to Iraq and trying to distinguish between which Iraqies want to blow you up and which you need to protect…..
More police are killed by black men each year than the other way around…Are black men against cops??
“Black men this and black women that…. One of our brothas lost his life. I’m sick of this stupid fuck shit. we getting fucked off everyday… by our own damn dumb ass people. Now we have another child without a father who wanted to be there.”
Gee Nina – I truly wish the black male felt as strongly against the black woman being harmed as you seem to feel for him… If it were a sista that was killed the black male would be high fiving these cops..
@SMDH
You must be back from Bossip vacation to stir up some post. SMH.
How can an execution committed on camera against a black man be turned into “black male vs. black female?” LOL.
Nucca please. WHO DOESN’T SEE THAT YOU WORK FOR BOSSIP?????
@Man i just don’t care…….. That was an intelligent comeback dumbass….. What grade are u in?
Whut up Man!!
@Truth…. I see you all in my shit, I have that effect of weak, bitch ass niggas like yourself. if you dont like what the fuck I said, keep your shit moving. You insecure, sensitive ass mutha fucka. Intimidation is a bitch… just like you.
I never said I was gangsta.. you did, dumb ass. You just salty because I checked your ass before, and you STILL salty about the shit.
@TRUTH
“Again….I am waiting for someone to show me an example of some black honor student pulled out of the crowd and randomly killed.
You want to know why EVEN BLACK AND LATINO cops are trigger happy around young black and latino thugs (or those pretending to be thugs)???
BECAUSE 90% OF THE CRIME THEY DEAL WITH IS COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK AND LATINO MEN.
Now it looks like this young man’s death was a tragedy. But those who see this simply as COPS=KKK are stupid and uninformed.
Sorry, cops aren’t out looking for n*gg*s to kill, they are fighting criminals, who in large urban cities all look like this young man.
Imagine going to Iraq and trying to distinguish between which Iraqies want to blow you up and which you need to protect…..
More police are killed by black men each year than the other way around…Are black men against cops??”
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Than shame on the police officer. If they are “scared” of the people they “serve and protect” REGARDLESS OF REASON… shame on them.
they need to step down if they can’t “serve and protect” regardless of the circumstances.
Don’t you agree? (I know you are an internet troll too LOL)
“Again….I am waiting for someone to show me an example of some black honor student pulled out of the crowd and randomly killed.
You want to know why EVEN BLACK AND LATINO cops are trigger happy around young black and latino thugs (or those pretending to be thugs)???
BECAUSE 90% OF THE CRIME THEY DEAL WITH IS COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK AND LATINO MEN.
Now it looks like this young man’s death was a tragedy. But those who see this simply as COPS=KKK are stupid and uninformed.
Sorry, cops aren’t out looking for n*gg*s to kill, they are fighting criminals, who in large urban cities all look like this young man.
Imagine going to Iraq and trying to distinguish between which Iraqies want to blow you up and which you need to protect…..
More police are killed by black men each year than the other way around…Are black men against cops??”
EXCELLENT POST TRUTH! This is the same point I am trying to make myself.. Black males don’t get killed by cops whilestanding on the corner selling lemonade.. They are provoking these cops and its time for the black male to take a good look at the role he plays in this..
@HONESTY 4U
“That was an intelligent comeback dumbass….. What grade are u in?”
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I guess Caylee Anthony should of “behaved” herself huh? LOL.
I’m gone say some isht yall disagree wit, but its true: all those ignant, loud ass lil niccas should have been at home in bed at 2 AM. They shouldnt have been actin like out of control heathens on a public terminal, hollerin at the police and steppin to em (escalating isht was unnecessary and dangerous). I woulda shot ever nigga with the nerve to approach me while im doing my job, let alone struggle when i tell their arse to get the hell down. If I have to break a sweat, Im breakin yo neck nigga. Promise! The only “unanswered question” is why the hell werent they taught better at home. The lesson – beat yo dam kids so they wont have to get shot later on!
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please tell me you are not a cop?!
And I did watch the video and the brother is on the ground when he was shot. . .
If the police are “innocent,” why aren’t they coming forward with information?
This brother has a family that is grieving right now, and a young daughter. The below is from a newspaper interview with one of his friends:
Moments before Oscar Grant was fatally shot by a transit agency police officer early New Year’s Day, he pleaded with cops not to harm him, a friend said Sunday.
“Oscar yelled, ‘You shot me! I got a four-year-old daughter,’” said Fernando Anicete, who was with Grant on the crowded Oakland train station platform at the time of his death.
“Oscar was telling us to calm down and we did,” Anicete said about 22-year-old Grant. “We weren’t looking for any trouble.”
Blood is in my eyes. This could happen to any one of us. Anyone of us could be minding our own business and risk being killed by the PIGS who are suppose to serve and protect instead of kill and destroy. I thought things would CHANGE once Obama was elected. Appears its all the same bullshit game. I don’t blame Obama for blood thirsty cops I blame AMERICA!
Hey Nina Knows
No you are right this is not about if he was black or is she was black the fact is even if she was justified in shooting him she could have shot him in the arm or in the leg they are taught to do that but not shooting someone in the back and how did it just discharge was there no safety on the gun?
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
“Again….I am waiting for someone to show me an example of some black honor student pulled out of the crowd and randomly killed.
You want to know why EVEN BLACK AND LATINO cops are trigger happy around young black and latino thugs (or those pretending to be thugs)???
BECAUSE 90% OF THE CRIME THEY DEAL WITH IS COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK AND LATINO MEN.
Now it looks like this young man’s death was a tragedy. But those who see this simply as COPS=KKK are stupid and uninformed.
Sorry, cops aren’t out looking for n*gg*s to kill, they are fighting criminals, who in large urban cities all look like this young man.
Imagine going to Iraq and trying to distinguish between which Iraqies want to blow you up and which you need to protect…..
More police are killed by black men each year than the other way around…Are black men against cops??”
EXCELLENT POST TRUTH! This is the same point I am trying to make myself.. Black males don’t get killed by cops whilestanding on the corner selling lemonade.. They are provoking these cops and its time for the black male to take a good look at the role he plays in this..
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I’m going to piggy back off of you two because I can’t say it any better. I agree 100%.
“Soy Sauce…. whats up my lady? i have been on vacation to rialto cali, but im back and loaded with work. I got a email saying Z wanted to join our sauce family as hot sauces wife.. What do you think???”
Let the ho join. I don’t care. But Horse Radish Sauce owuld probably be a better name for her…
@SMDH
“EXCELLENT POST TRUTH! This is the same point I am trying to make myself.. Black males don’t get killed by cops whilestanding on the corner selling lemonade.. They are provoking these cops and its time for the black male to take a good look at the role he plays in this..”
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If a Police officer feels “provoked” by the people the “serve and protect” they need to step down.
How can you “provoke” your “butler” outside of physically harming them? THEY ARE A SERVANT!! If they don’t like it they need to quit.
LOL! And yesterday, you sisters displayed such solidarity with SMDH & Passenger 5150, and now you’re paying the price for jumping in bed with the BEAST. CIAO!
“Hey cali,cALL ya country cousins down south if ya’ll need a little help dealing with these white devils! Jena6 was only the beginning!”
And it should have been the end.. It’’s time ot stop cloaking these clowns..
Hell, let the black male go out there and march for him. After all he is THEIR brethren, not ours.. The black male can’t evenstand us..
tragic
LOL.. ROTFLMOA….!!!
“If a Police officer feels “provoked” by the people the “serve and protect” they need to step down.
How can you “provoke” your “butler” outside of physically harming them? THEY ARE A SERVANT!! If they don’t like it they need to quit.”
C’mon now.. You’re comparing apples with oranges.. There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE between a butler and a cop taking his life in to his hands everyday dealing with violent murderous black males..
Thank you Sydney. (Soy Sauce you got issues.) While I agree the men were acting unruly, how uncommon are fights and disturbances on holidays when people are out and about sippin’? If you watch the video it is very clear that not only is the officer NOT Black, but none of the boys posed a threat. What I find amazing is with all of the training officers get there appears to be no other alternative, but to use a gun to subdue or control a person. Got damn! One officer had knee on the dude’s neck and station is an enclosed space. Where the hell would this kid have gone if he ran? Yeah, I’m mad dude was acting the fool, but he didn’t deserve to be shot at close range in the back like that. I also know if there were white boys acting stupid that night the train wouldn’t have stopped, the cops wouldn’t have been called, and no body would have died. As far as I’m concerned an “investigation” is unnecessary. That video clearly shows that kid was murdered.
Special K…
Trust me when I say, it takes are own people to justify someone killing us like this. You have a young brotha loose his life… and what do you see on here? People finding ways on how he deserved it.
smh at these dumb fucks.
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Than shame on the police officer. If they are “scared” of the people they “serve and protect” REGARDLESS OF REASON… shame on them.
they need to step down if they can’t “serve and protect” regardless of the circumstances.
Don’t you agree? (I know you are an internet troll too LOL)
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I don’t know what happened, but if you say “Shame on the police” for being “scared” of those they are supposed to protect??
Huh? Do you think cops are superhuman? If there is no physical distinction between those trying to kill you and those minding their business, then how can you tell?
You have no clue about the circumstances. Black folks want a crime free neighborhood, but expect the police to have superpowers that enable them to stop crime and never hurt anyone. Sorry.
Again, more cops die from black men each year than the other way around. So to go by your reasoning, black men hate cops and are systematically trying to exterminate young black men (HEY! Even the black cops want in on it).
Step back and use your head as something more than an ornament. Try and put yourself in the cop’s situation and try and imagine a world where all cops don’t want to randomly kill all black men. I know, this takes a grasp of nuance and common sense, but work with me here.
Are cops are just randomly driving around taking target practice on black men? Or in fact, do all of these shootings take place in situations that require the cops to come to the scene in the first place?
I know people, seeing the world with some intelligence and not in black and white is hard. Understanding that Black doesn’t always =good, righteous victim is impossible.
Truth
@SMDH…..Bossip won’t even post the whole story, what makes you think they would mention the cop was black?
Certainly there’s racism in America (shit, there racism all over here), and certainly, blacks have it worse off, but it would be nice if Bossip thought first before posting inciniary half-truths before all the information comes out.
Again, Bossip folks…I hope to see y’all out on the front lines against the Oakland police. If you gonna talk tough and incite anger, you better not be sitting back and searching for photos of Kim K…
But yeah, how come I never hear about some black kid who’s an honor student and dresses like he has a job???
Are the cops not racist against them? Seems to me that all of the “victims” in these cases are always people either involved in trouble, or with a history of it.
Regardless, another young black man dies. It certainly would be nice if our law enforcement put a higher premium on a young black life (no matter the history or clothes), but I think that we can’t expect outside forces to respect the lives of our young men until we show that we respect those lives ourself.
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I concur bruh!
this is really tuff…u can’t really put the blame on anybody…but a man is dead…and according to the video they ain’t anything, he was handcuffed and shot…its just not fair cuz for a police to kill, it has to be in case of selfdefense or somethin…the cop here is should punished…
And @ SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
Now it looks like this young man’s death was a tragedy. But those who see this simply as COPS=KKK are stupid and uninformed.
We have a case where an innocent black male was shot by a white police officer…does that make that white cops a KKK may be not but very close to that.
SMDH you fucking cunt! Why not pop shyt in the main thread?? got mofos running to me telling me you mouthing off. pussy ass bitch. U could never look as good as me and it eats u up inside. Fucking faggot. Grown ass man posing as a bitch in order to pop shyt! fuck you
“I’m gone say some isht yall disagree wit, but its true: all those ignant, loud ass lil niccas should have been at home in bed at 2 AM. They shouldnt have been actin like out of control heathens on a public terminal, hollerin at the police and steppin to em (escalating isht was unnecessary and dangerous). I woulda shot ever nigga with the nerve to approach me while im doing my job, let alone struggle when i tell their arse to get the hell down. If I have to break a sweat, Im breakin yo neck nigga. Promise! The only “unanswered question” is why the hell werent they taught better at home. The lesson – beat yo dam kids so they wont have to get shot later on!”
AMEN!!! Like we are really to believe this kid did nothing and was thrown against a wall and just handcuffed.. He was out there in it up to his neck and he caught the losing end of the game he was playing.. I can’t beleive he got all that started by playing a role in it and then trys to ge tall loud yelling don’t shoot me.. Don’t have your ass out in a station at 2:00am raising violent hell..
You are beneath me. If you have a problem with it, leave the sauce family. Cuz I run this shyt now.
“SMDH you fucking cunt! Why not pop shyt in the main thread?? got mofos running to me telling me you mouthing off. pussy ass bitch. U could never look as good as me and it eats u up inside. Fucking faggot. Grown ass man posing as a bitch in order to pop shyt! fuck you”
Bitch – I talk shit to your horse faced Barbaro looking ass everytime I am in the same thread as your lockjawed dick sucking soup cooler lippped as is!! Don’t even try to act like I had to run to another thread to talk shit about your punk ass.. You see me talking shit – do something about it!! You fucking camel toothed dyke bitch!!! Go fuck your mother you drag nasty ho!!
I don’t know what happened, but if you say “Shame on the police” for being “scared” of those they are supposed to protect??
Huh? Do you think cops are superhuman? If there is no physical distinction between those trying to kill you and those minding their business, then how can you tell?
You have no clue about the circumstances. Black folks want a crime free neighborhood, but expect the police to have superpowers that enable them to stop crime and never hurt anyone. Sorry.
Again, more cops die from black men each year than the other way around. So to go by your reasoning, black men hate cops and are systematically trying to exterminate young black men (HEY! Even the black cops want in on it).
Step back and use your head as something more than an ornament. Try and put yourself in the cop’s situation and try and imagine a world where all cops don’t want to randomly kill all black men. I know, this takes a grasp of nuance and common sense, but work with me here.
Are cops are just randomly driving around taking target practice on black men? Or in fact, do all of these shootings take place in situations that require the cops to come to the scene in the first place?
I know people, seeing the world with some intelligence and not in black and white is hard. Understanding that Black doesn’t always =good, righteous victim is impossible.
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Again, Well said bruh…..
“You are beneath me. If you have a problem with it, leave the sauce family. Cuz I run this shyt now.”
Like you run those lips and teeth for days across a hairy shaft?!??!
@Man, I just…
Your butler analogy was wack. Seriously, your butler serves YOU. If he doesn’t like the job, he can quit. He has no state given authority to use force and he certainly can never use force on his employer…
Now, let’s see if you are smart enough to finish the part where the police serve THE STATE, not YOU.
The police are bestowed with the power to use force by THE STATE, not you.
And the police are often attacked by the citizens of the state. I know being a Butler can be tough, but I don’t think Butler Employer killings are that high this year…..
@ SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
No one said he didn’t do anythin…but what did he possibly do that made the cop kill him…gosh he has 4 year old kid…what ever the case was…killin him was the solution.
@TRUTH
“I don’t know what happened, but if you say “Shame on the police” for being “scared” of those they are supposed to protect??
Huh? Do you think cops are superhuman? If there is no physical distinction between those trying to kill you and those minding their business, then how can you tell?
You have no clue about the circumstances. Black folks want a crime free neighborhood, but expect the police to have superpowers that enable them to stop crime and never hurt anyone. Sorry.
Again, more cops die from black men each year than the other way around. So to go by your reasoning, black men hate cops and are systematically trying to exterminate young black men (HEY! Even the black cops want in on it).
Step back and use your head as something more than an ornament. Try and put yourself in the cop’s situation and try and imagine a world where all cops don’t want to randomly kill all black men. I know, this takes a grasp of nuance and common sense, but work with me here.
Are cops are just randomly driving around taking target practice on black men? Or in fact, do all of these shootings take place in situations that require the cops to come to the scene in the first place?
I know people, seeing the world with some intelligence and not in black and white is hard. Understanding that Black doesn’t always =good, righteous victim is impossible.”
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LOL. As a troll you aren’t even good. Police are “servants.” If they are “scared” for any reason, they need to resign. Point blank.
Can your surgeon be “nervous” or “scared” before operating?
It’s called being “professional.” If they are scared, they need to quit. Period.
Troll.
Nina Knows
Special K…
Trust me when I say, it takes are own people to justify someone killing us like this. You have a young brotha loose his life… and what do you see on here? People finding ways on how he deserved it.
smh at these dumb fucks.
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I see your point here. I don’t think people are saying that he deserved but rather that he provoked this tragic outcome. It’s more cause and effect than it is racist cops looking to randomly kill a black man.
I don’t mean to sound insensitive but it is what it is–bad decisions can lead to bad outcomes. It is illogical to place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the police.
My heart goes out to his family.
i meant wasn’t the solution…
@SMDH
Ohhh that sound familiar. You have no life and you are sorry and pathetic. Not even of my pedigree. Seriously, who goes across the internet putting my damn email address on blogs I never seen before…poppin off. GET A FUCKIN LIFE. if u wanted to pop shyt about me, come to where I am. I am the pretties buck tooth horse bitch u ever seen. Got you sick don’t it? Why dont u put a real pic up, and lets judge looks. Pox marked inflicted HOE!
More on Oscar Grant:
Mario Pangelina, Mesa’s brother who was riding on the same train, two cars behind Grant on Thursday morning, said Sunday he saw Grant beg police not to Taser him because of his child.
“He kept saying, ‘Please, please don’t Tase me,’” Pangelina said. “He was not acting hostile.”
Other witnesses said Grant was lying on his stomach on the station’s platform when he was shot.
Recordings of the shooting by witnesses have surfaced and Burris said BART had confiscated numerous cell phone images from others he believes contain additional footage.
Amen, truth. Well said.
Truth, Dubya, and SMDH
I’m gonna PIGgyback offa the three of yall and say: yall on point!!
Damn man. Another brutha down for nothing. It just kills me when it’s for nothing. That goes for any race.
@TRUTH
“Your butler analogy was wack. Seriously, your butler serves YOU. If he doesn’t like the job, he can quit. He has no state given authority to use force and he certainly can never use force on his employer…
Now, let’s see if you are smart enough to finish the part where the police serve THE STATE, not YOU.
The police are bestowed with the power to use force by THE STATE, not you.
And the police are often attacked by the citizens of the state. I know being a Butler can be tough, but I don’t think Butler Employer killings are that high this year…..”
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Let’s see if you are smart enought to know that “you” are a part of the “state” and therefore he SERVES you. It’s on his damn badge. It doesn’t say “Serve the State.”
No, Butler/employer killings aren’t high. That’s because most butlers are smarter than most cops.
Nina Knows
Oh honey I trust and believe. what I can’t believe is the fact that people really are going on and on about the color content. He could have been purple and the cop could’ve been green he would have still been the purple defenseless man getting shot in the back while handcuffed by the stupid ill trained green cop.
@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
1) There were no black officers present on any of the videos available
2) Your black male rant is not applicable here. Its has not been proven that this young man was the cause of even involved in the incident on the train. It is reported and seen on the video that several young men were apprehended, of which there are other races.
It “funny”, i regularly observe Caucasian males, being way more disorderly while being apprehended, usually they are intoxicated, but they are never abused further more fatally shot, accidentally or not.
Lets stop tripping people, it could be anyone of us ,unduly lying on the floor, say i dont deserve to be treated like this.
I hope receives what is due to him and victims family receives just recompense.
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
“You are beneath me. If you have a problem with it, leave the sauce family. Cuz I run this shyt now.”
Like you run those lips and teeth for days across a hairy shaft?!??!
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Don’t forget i lick the balls too. I give the best to whatever I do! don’t forget it bitch!
“@SMDH
You must be back from Bossip vacation to stir up some post. SMH.
How can an execution committed on camera against a black man be turned into “black male vs. black female?” LOL.
Nucca please. WHO DOESN’T SEE THAT YOU WORK FOR BOSSIP?????”
Guy listen were not gonna agree on this one.. I am tired of the violent black male wanting everyone to ban behind him when his violent supidity gets his ass handed to him.. I’m not that sista.. He shoouldn’t have been in a station fighting..
I mean Jesus. I don’t even see this angry unity when the black male is out there killing black males but you let the thought of a white man harming a black mlae enter his mind and its hands across America for the criminal black male who got his comeuppance..
Not this sista.. Its called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
@ ALL THE UNCLE (AND AUNT) TOMS BLAMING THE VICTIM:
What’s wit this crabbsinabucket mess? The fact of the matter is white boys can get intoxicated and will be taken to jail with bail, while an overreactive black man is shot down like a wild chimp… THAT’S THE PROBLEM!!!!!!
What happened to that dude in NY on the eve of his wedding HELLO?! These crips or blood cowards need to get a clue and start merking one-time.. Real talk.
@SMDH
why don’t u do everyone a favor and turn in Julips. She is more fun. You are just pathetic.
“Don’t forget i lick the balls too. I give the best to whatever I do! don’t forget it bitch!”
Well you are what you do so lick away and be proud!!!
I’m going back to the main post. This HOE is sorry. Tata
@Dubya
You think before you post..That makes you an alien here..
@Man I just don’t care
Again, your grasp of the fact and the distinctions betwen a BUTLER and a COP are wrong. A cop is the servant of the state, not you.
Calling me a troll doesn’t make you more right. It just shows eveyone in here with a brain that you have to resort to name calling to deflect from the fact that your cognigent reasoning skills are that of a 5th grader.
Trolls just posts incendiary sh!t to anger people. My posts are well reasoned and thought out.
Yours look like a sychopantic child wrote them…
TROLL…LOL
“@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
1) There were no black officers present on any of the videos available
2) Your black male rant is not applicable here. Its has not been proven that this young man was the cause of even involved in the incident on the train. It is reported and seen on the video that several young men were apprehended, of which there are other races.”
So I guess you have an explanation as to why its always the black male, right?? Why is i always the black male meeting this fate?? Beyond that why is it always the violent street thug black mlae hwo meets this fate?? Trust me, this wasn’t a school kid in a station at 2:00am selling cookies for his school trip!! This was a NIGGA out there raising hell like it always is!! Just like Sean Bell out 2:00am in the morning raising hell.. Why?? Why is the black male always out raising hell and meeting these fates?? And don’t play the race card with me either..
Its called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!
And as I said that cop looks like a very light skinned minority to me..
I’m still not understanding how this young man supposedly caused his own demise. He was lying face down and was pleading with officers when he was shot. I watched the video and the fear among the brothers who were detained was palpable.
I have a brother, and the same thing could have happened to him, or to someone you know. That’s frightening.
“What happened to that dude in NY on the eve of his wedding HELLO?! These crips or blood cowards need to get a clue and start merking one-time.. Real talk.”
As i said in my last response Sean Bell was just yet another blcak male out at 2:00am within a crowd making things unsafe for the people around them.. What if in both incidents and innocent person was killed due to the situations these 2:00am black males created??? Then what would you say?!?!
The cop who murdered this man was NOT black… not that it would have made a big difference anyway.
RIP
@ Candid Canuck, Thank you!!!
You see with these scary ass uncle tom types, their first natural reaction is to defend whitey. So anything black, it’s been programmed in them to find fault…. which is exactly what their doing.
@man
You on it dawg. but of couse dumb ass dont get. how many times can you explain something so obvious. The police are suppose protect and serve.. not handcuff and kill.
@Special K..
I agree, for me it’s a deeper issue when their black, because I am, so it hits closer to home. But I dont give a damn what color he was.. this shit is wrong, no matter what side you look at it from.
SMDH is a complete idiot, and a sad excuse for whatever she claims to be.
Now wait a minute!
@ Nina Knows
I am black to sweetie and i get what you are saying completely.
@ Man
I concur with Nina you really are on it but sometimes it takes for you to be in the darkness to want to seek the light and the person you are speaking with doesn’t get your point…
I’m still not understanding how this young man supposedly caused his own demise. He was lying face down and was pleading with officers when he was shot. I watched the video and the fear among the brothers who were detained was palpable.
For me personally its no different then everyone blaming that sista yesterday for her monkey ass ex husband chosing the kill their child than pay child support.. The very same things that made people argue wholeheartedly that that babys death was his mothers fault and not his fathers – who killed him – is the same strength I argue that this “brotha” should not have been out at 2:00am provoking the police.. Atleast the sista was clueless.. This niga brought this all on himself..
Riddle me this: why weren’t any of the detainees/bystanders sitting against the walls shot and killed?? CAUSE THEY WERE DOING WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO AND WEREN’T RESISTING AND CREATING A DANGEROUS SITUATION!!!
Sydney
I’m still not understanding how this young man supposedly caused his own demise. He was lying face down and was pleading with officers when he was shot. I watched the video and the fear among the brothers who were detained was palpable.
I have a brother, and the same thing could have happened to him, or to someone you know. That’s frightening.
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I feel you Sydney, but the fact is there is a lot we do not know…Unless WE were actually there we wont know…These buttered up politically correct media accounts of what happened does not tell the story…This is just another examply of why the blame game serves us no purpose, but self accountablity does….
“I don’t know what happened, but if you say “Shame on the police” for being “scared” of those they are supposed to protect??
Huh? Do you think cops are superhuman? If there is no physical distinction between those trying to kill you and those minding their business, then how can you tell?
You have no clue about the circumstances. Black folks want a crime free neighborhood, but expect the police to have superpowers that enable them to stop crime and never hurt anyone. Sorry.
Again, more cops die from black men each year than the other way around. So to go by your reasoning, black men hate cops and are systematically trying to exterminate young black men (HEY! Even the black cops want in on it).
Step back and use your head as something more than an ornament. Try and put yourself in the cop’s situation and try and imagine a world where all cops don’t want to randomly kill all black men. I know, this takes a grasp of nuance and common sense, but work with me here.
Are cops are just randomly driving around taking target practice on black men? Or in fact, do all of these shootings take place in situations that require the cops to come to the scene in the first place?
I know people, seeing the world with some intelligence and not in black and white is hard. Understanding that Black doesn’t always =good, righteous victim is impossible.”
EXCELLENT POST AGAIN TRUTH!! Very good points about blacks wanting safety but not wanting what may come along with it.. Thats the same way I felt about that whole Jena ^ march.. How do we ask the law to keep ussafe from little fucking thug monkeys like those 6 bastards and then when the cops and the law do what we ask them to we wanna get out and march for the perps!! WHATEVER!!
Fair enough. If us “Uncle Tom” types (always use that. That will make you feel better and right) ALWAYS want to defend whitey. Then you black victim types always want to blame whitey.
It can’t be that some of these men where victims of circumstance (and you have to put yourself in such circumstances to have that result), it’s simply that cops want to kill blacks. RIGHT.
It must be nice to have the world so simple.
Black=good
White=bad
Blacks who agree that every black is a victim=good blacks
Blacks who question every circumstance on the face of facts=Uncle Tom
If evaluating everything with my entire brain makes me an Uncle Tom, then so be it. I’d rather be an Uncle Tom than an idiot; because any idiot can run around screaming and talking sh!t on the internet everytime something bad happens to a black person.
Intelligent people have to actually engage their brains and examine ALL the circumstances. It doesn’t take much intelligence to run on bossip and say “those cops woulda got killed if only I was in Oakland.”
Nah Bruh, there would have just been two dead blacks instead of 1…..
@ Tony
Excellent point. But do you not agree that even if he had to be shot that they could have shot him somewhere else like maybe his arm or leg like they are taught to do?
“@ SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
No one said he didn’t do anythin…but what did he possibly do that made the cop kill him…gosh he has 4 year old kid…what ever the case was…killin him was the solution.”
I don’t believe the cop meant to kill him..
@soy sauce
i wonder if you would be spitting all that ignorance if the cops started killing welfare havin’, illegitimate baby poppin’ black bitches like yourself.
Redd, did you watch the video? I know what I saw, and the young woman who witnessed the shooting and caught it on camera was also appalled by what she saw. There are other eyewitness accounts that all point to a blatant abuse of power and an unnecessary shooting.
I also found this tidbit from a poster on The Huffington Post, which I found interesting:
“I ride BART everyday to work. These Bart police that occasionally patrol the trains and the stations mean business, therefore it is pretty much an unspoken rule that you don’t mess with them, and that you get out of their way. They are very threatening figures on the train. I have no doubt that this young man was scared for his life when he was confronted by them. It is sad to see that it took little for them to believe they had cause to use such excessive force. I feel for his family and for his daughter. This officer should be held accountable because this was a clear cut case of murder. I also hope that it puts BART police in check. These officers are arrogant bullies who seemingly have the run of the whole system. I’ll have to be more careful that is for sure.”
@REDD TONY
EXACTLY. Personal Accountability would go a long way in our community. Who kills more black men?
Cops or Police? I can tell you that the #’s are about 10,000 to 1.
Yet who are we more outraged by? Where are all the internet gangstas and Bossip when some savage sprays a gun all over West Philly and kills a little black girl?
We LOVE to blame, but never to fix. Blaming works if we think blaming whitey will actually do something other than make us look like eternal victims. It’s easier to blame than think.
“The cop who murdered this man was NOT black… not that it would have made a big difference anyway.
RIP”
Well the cops solor is irrelevant to me..For once I am going to take a page out of the black males “guide to kumbaya for a piece of Becky ass” book and look completely beyond race.. The cop could have been orange for all I care.. Race is not an issue here.. I believe if this male was not out raising hell in a public place at 2:00am he’d be alive today and the race of the cop won’t change that fact!!!
Special K
@ Tony
Excellent point. But do you not agree that even if he had to be shot that they could have shot him somewhere else like maybe his arm or leg like they are taught to do?
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Of course I agree that could have been a better option, but I dont know how it is to be a cop…Cops are human too…They are some ruthless, racist asshole, good, bad, bitch ass, cops, all types…Its always unfortunately when somebody dies like this, but unless it was on tape like Rodney King?, all we can do is go on speculation, which are assumptions….
I cannot believe the ignorance. I will not return. People on huffpost have an education, they know how to debate and think critically. Some of u reactionaries are abused children with internet access. I would close the public library to stop some of u silly class clowns, but I know there are some literate folk out there who do have brains. Shame on all of you who make excuses for any criminal in uniform or not in a uniform. YOU MAKE ME SICK!
“@soy sauce
i wonder if you would be spitting all that ignorance if the cops started killing welfare havin’, illegitimate baby poppin’ black bitches like yourself.”
Wel lapparently the welfare havin’ illigetimate baby poppin’ black bitches like myself (LOL) know how to do what the cop tell us to so we avoid catching a hot one in the back!! Maybe the black male should take a page outta our book on how to do what a cop is telling you to and stay alive..
shyt aint changed. This for yall muthafuckas that holla the past is the past let it go. Muthaphuckin Transit cops with guns and shyt. Why do transit cops think they super police. Most police got anger and control issues anyway. I want the Panther Police back, we need our own daym police!
PURPPLE
shyt aint changed. This for yall muthafuckas that holla the past is the past let it go. Muthaphuckin Transit cops with guns and shyt. Why do transit cops think they super police. Most police got anger and control issues anyway. I want the Panther Police back, we need our own daym police!
if bossip dont get my shyt right!
Some of u that make comments that are so stupid its funny. If u go to ch 2, our local news channel and you will see different angles. This guy was on the ground when he was shot in the back. That’s what it was.It does appear that the officer was shocked once he realized he had just shot him. BART police have a taser on one side and a gun on the other. Its sad that this guy will never see his family again. My prayers go out to his family.
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE your dumb as hell! How dare you make fucked up ass comments. go to ktvu.com they have all angles. See for yourself. Fucking moron
Enough about the so-called blacks raising hell at 2 a.m.
I invite you to ride the DC Metro after a game or on a weekend night, and you will plenty of rowdiness from a bunch of drunkards, and, guess what, they don’t come in brown or black. Try walking around Adams Morgan, and you will see plenty of out-of-control revelers.
@Sydney
You posting commenters on the Huffington post has about as much validity as me quoting the Benevolent Order of Police. You don’t know that person, and you certainly don’t know what they are saying is true..
Oooooo the BART copes are so scary. Ok, fine. I find most cops intimidating (especially as a black male), THAT’S WHY I STAY THE F- OUT OF THEIR WAY.
I can assure you that many of my black bretheren in NYC do not share my fear of the boys in blue. What’s to make you think this cats were afraid?
Again, those of you who think it was Carlton Banks and his boys discussing philosphy in the train car when the KKK rode in and shot him are deluded.
There’s more to this, and while he might certainly be a victim and this is undoubtably a tragedy (any loss of life is), this is not a simple race killing.
SMDH
I’m really not sure what video you watched or where you read about this incident.
First of all-you cannot tell what the race is of the officer that killed the young man.’Light-skinned black man or some other ethnic minority’-really?You are making things up.
Additionally-in one of your many posts-you then stated that this guy was in a gang fight-where did you read that he was in a gang or a gang member?-and please don’t try to justify it by saying that ‘gang’ means a group of people. The report clearly says that the men were taken off the train for fighting-it doesn’t even say that he was involved in the fight-he could just have been part of the general group-we DON’T KNOW.
Even if these guys were fighting, from the FOOTAGE-they are ALL sitting on the ground and cooperating with the police-they were not resisting arrest-as you keep stating.
This guy had the ‘temerity’-it looks like to answer back or diagree with the police-but he was not fighting and looked to be pleading with the police before he was dragged off and restrained on the ground by several police officers. Then while RESTRAINED -he was shot, IN THE BACK.
The video horrified me-and I really don’tunderstand why you would jump to the aid of police-before asking yourself a few questions:how much of a threat is a person handcuffed and restarained on the ground-that he then needs to be shot-not even tasered-shot.
I live in the U.K-and I have seen instances MYSELF-where the police incite and aggravate a situation, especially if black people are involved-due to the fact that the police force HERE-like those in the U.S are institutionally racist, and populated with persons who won’t and cannot calm down a situation- which is part of their job and their duty-while trying to protect the public.
The video is disturbing and many questions need to be answered. But you are fooling yourself if you think that you are a thinking person by immediately denigrating this man and stating or strongly implying that he deserved to be shot.
One last thing-the noise (shouting) heard on the video-most of it seems to be coming from the angry witnesses, and not from the men being arrested.
The Police are to Serve and Protect the public from miscreants. Sorry this kid is dead but he should have been behaving himself. Even i know that ALL cops black or white have their hands near the trigger when there is a melee featuring “Urban Youth”
u aint neva lied Sydney..but a nigga always look more threatening to a cop.
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
“The cop who murdered this man was NOT black… not that it would have made a big difference anyway.
RIP”
Well the cops solor is irrelevant to me..For once I am going to take a page out of the black males “guide to kumbaya for a piece of Becky ass” book and look completely beyond race.. The cop could have been orange for all I care.. Race is not an issue here.. I believe if this male was not out raising hell in a public place at 2:00am he’d be alive today and the race of the cop won’t change that fact!!!
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Since when is color NOT relevant 2 u? But then again, u were pretty damn giddy when Sean Bell was killed, so u may b right.
At this point I really don’t know what to say. People are basing opinions on these little known facts that Bossip is handing out. This is not the whole story, so for others please research and read before making an ignorant opinion on the cirucmstances of the situation. So I am out to do just what I suggested.
“Redd, did you watch the video? I know what I saw, and the young woman who witnessed the shooting and caught it on camera was also appalled by what she saw. There are other eyewitness accounts that all point to a blatant abuse of power and an unnecessary shooting.”
Most likely a black woman still caught up in that ride or die for the black male mentality!! I saw the tape and it looked like he was resisting and then tried to be a fucking smartass with the “please don’t tase me, bro” bullshit game afterwards.. He was resisting arrest.. And he was not just point blank shot… A gun accidentally dischared so cut the innocent black man/angry white racist cop scenario.. However I maintain that this story wouldn’t even exist if he had been at home with his 4 year old baby instead of in the streets raising violent hell.. He’s gonna yell about his daughter.. Why wasn’t his black ass home with is daughter being a FATHER instead of in the streets being a THUG?!?!?
@Sydney
Naw I didnt see the clip…
Do they have a clip of what events happened before that young man got handcuffed?…Proabaly not…I am not excusing the officers actions, but clips do tell the whole story…
Ok I’m on both sides of the fence on this one. From what I’ve seen in the video the cop had no right at that moment to shoot the guy. He wasn’t a threat whatsoever. However, Young brothas were acting like straight baffoons runnin around and fightin. Soy Sauce is right about the personal responsibilty part. Cops show up when some sh!t is going down, they don’t snipe brothas for the sport of it. Sure there are bad apples in every bushel but we get all ready to riot when a cop shoots one of us down(justified or unjustified), but what about the 8,000 black on black murders every year in the U.S.? If one cop kills a brotha and all are labeled KKK racists, what the hell do we call ourselves? That’s 80,000 blacks killed every 10 years by other blacks. Com’on ya’ll, we gotta get our own sh!t together.
Oh, by the time I get back people should just be starting to blame black women for this particular incident.
@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
Let me tell you something your rants about the black man are pathetic. You have tried and convicted all black men because you have BAD PUSSY! That’s why you hate black men because once you open that Lip OF YOURS your tongue falls out and you say some ridiculous shit and end up being dumped. I can tell your father wasn’t in the home and mother also suffered from BPS—bad pussy syndrome. Your hatred towards men is obvious and its sickening… I see you and your friends here have a battle of the sexes which I think is absolutely pathetic. Get a life and stop being a hateful bitch its eating you alive.
Silence Devil GOD has had enough of the feces in your mouth.
Hey Sydney, so glad your posting lady.
Funny how people are commenting without even watching the video, are they even reading the articles? Whats sad, is the first thing folks do when they hear the victim is black, is try and find out what kind of a criminal background he/she has, how many kids, and what education level they’ve received. smh.. should it even matter?
Ain’t this sad…why is it that every month we have an unarmed young black male murdered by police?
YOU SO CALLED BLACK PEOPLE TRIP ME THE FUCK OUT IN THAT I’M SURE THAT IN EVERY INSTANCE IN YOUR STUPID, SHORT AZZ, YOUNG AZZ, LIVES YOU HAVE CONDUCTED YOURSELF IN PUBLIC PERFECTLY RIGHT?!!! NEVER HAD ANY ALTERCATION WITH THE LAW THAT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN YOUR DUMB AZZES GETTING SHOT RIGHT?! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?! YOU SO CALLED BLACK FOLKS WOULD MAKE GREAT LAWYERS IF YOU COULD READ BECAUSE YOU’LL GET ON THESE BLOGS AND JUSTIFY ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO A YOUNG BROTHA UNDER ANY DAYUM CIRCUMSTANCE JUST BECAUSE HE HAS PROBLEM WITH THE LAW!!! YOU ARE SOME PHONY AZZ SELF RIGHTEOUS NIGGAS IF YOU ASK ME AND OF COURSE THE COP WILL PROBABLY GET OFF EASY OR LIGHT FOR KILLING ANOTHER BROTHA WHILE SOME OF YOU AZZHOLES WILL SAY THAT IT WAS JUSTIFIED TOO! NO WONDER WHY WE CONTINUE TO SUCK OUT OF WHITE FOLKS AZZES EVEN WITH OBAMA AS PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“One last thing-the noise (shouting) heard on the video-most of it seems to be coming from the angry witnesses, and not from the men being arrested.”
So why wasn’t anyone else shot or even picked up on the cell phone acting up?? Cause they knew what to do to keep their asses alive.. Why didn’t this cat?? Why was he the only one resisting even after being cuffed and yelling all that “don’t tase me bro” likened bullshit?!??!
BOSSIP…How about you let the investigation GET STARTED before you go to the:”BLACK PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE” card?! Cops don’t go around just looking for Black men to shoot.They don’t.
I meant clips DO NOT tell the whole story…
I had a friend who told me recently he was walking out of his apartment and saw the OPD (Oakland Police Dept) going through his mom’s car. They were caught off guard and he was caught off guard because on TV they tell you the police need permission aka a warrant. However, he was more upset because he realized THEIR surprise could have resulted in Diallo-like situation. Eventually the police explained his mom’s car “looked like” another white car that was used in a robbery. Even though my friend [hella skinny Nigerian who volunteers with at-risk youth] cooperated, they still hand-cuffed him with this as an explanation (and I quote): IF YOU RUN, I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO SHOOT YOU IN THE BACK. Oh yeah, he told me all, but the Black officer laughed.
I know it’s crazy to believe, but some cops actually do want to kill Black men.
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Of course I agree that could have been a better option, but I dont know how it is to be a cop…Cops are human too…They are some ruthless, racist asshole, good, bad, bitch ass, cops, all types…Its always unfortunately when somebody dies like this, but unless it was on tape like Rodney King?, all we can do is go on speculation, which are assumptions….
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Exactly. Cops, like bankers, doctors, and garbagemen are human. As a black men, I have a good fear of them. And I use that fear to keep my ass out of situations where I got a gun to my back. I had a wild ass time in HS and College and I lived in major cities. Yet I’ve NEVER had an issue with a cop other traffic tickets. I fail to believe that a young black man who is keeping his nose clean can’t avoid these situations.
I saw someone argue that white boys get away with more drunken misbehaving. SO WHAT.
If white dudes want to test the law, that’s their business, but it’s not our job to see if we can act as much like animals as our white counterparts.
Let whitey keep a monopoly on the violence and silliness. He’s done a good job for the first 5,000 years……
“NEVER HAD ANY ALTERCATION WITH THE LAW THAT COULD HAVE RESULTED IN YOUR DUMB AZZES GETTING SHOT RIGHT?!”
Actually and honestly – no I haven’t.. I have neevr had an altercation with a cop that could have cost me my life.. If I was ever approached by a cop I would do and act as he was telling me to because if he FEELS safe then I AM safe.. I would NEVER challenge a cop the way these black males do and the way this blck male did right here…
Hi, Purp, Nina, Man, HF
Redd, watch the clip which includes an interview with the young woman who caught the shooting on video. The San Francisco Chronicle, sfgate.com, and the Oakland Tribune, insidebayarea.com, have also been covering this developing story.
From all the eyewitness accounts I’ve read so far, everyone is horrified and dismayed by what they saw, and they all say that Mr. Grant was complying when he was shot.
I have no idea why yall arguing, I ain’t even watch the video and I know the cops used excessive force on that man and murdered him, period. Somebody show me a report where he had a weapon or any witnesses that said he assaulted or charged at the officer.
And if that man was handcuffed and on the ground or restrained period the cop should get charged with first degree murder!
I can’t wait till his azz get to the penn
Hey Nina u up there girl…I didn’t see u
yall better get yall shyt ready for a police state. Keep thinking its a joke….
Exactly Purpple… Exactly!!!
Glad to see a few of us make some sense. These racist threads really show the light on some true bitchass individuals.
smh @ some I thought had better sense.
“BOSSIP…How about you let the investigation GET STARTED before you go to the:”BLACK PEOPLE ARE VICTIMS OF SYSTEMATIC GENOCIDE” card?! Cops don’t go around just looking for Black men to shoot.They don’t.”
OKAAAAAAAAAY?? Some blacks act like there is a big bad racist white man – aka THE MAN (like on Undercover Brother) – and he rides around in a 18 wheeler sized paddy wagon just snatching up innocent black males selling boy scout cookies off the street and torturing/killing them..
C’mon now people!! It’s not that comically cut and dry!!
I’m not sure why or when ’some’ Blacks began taking the brunt of criminals, but I honestly can’t relate. A man has been shot down like a dog and all people can do is blame each other? I’ve lived in the gold coast and the heart of the West side of Chicago so I’ve seen highly skilled criminals and criminals doing ‘licks’ for temporary survival. I will not ever blame myself for the criminality of a people this whole gottdamn society is SICK if you ask me. I look at all the murders that BUSH and Company have commited against others around the world. I look at my own city where a Mayor allowed testimony of one of the diriest cops in America who now lives on retirement in Florida…hopefully not for long. My grief is shallow at this point, but at least I will research this case before I render a diagnosis. Talk about a real problem some of you should look into the mirror
Sydney
Hi, Purp, Nina, Man, HF
Redd, watch the clip which includes an interview with the young woman who caught the shooting on video. The San Francisco Chronicle, sfgate.com, and the Oakland Tribune, insidebayarea.com, have also been covering this developing story.
From all the eyewitness accounts I’ve read so far, everyone is horrified and dismayed by what they saw, and they all say that Mr. Grant was complying when he was shot.
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Ill check it out…
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE OR WHOMEVER YOU ARE YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUNG BLACK MALES SO I’M SURE THAT YOU ARE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY RIGHT! AND AGAIN, IT’S AMAZING HOW WE JUSTIFY MURDER UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES TO FIT OUR OWN ARGUMENTS UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO SOMEONE CLOSE TO US AND THEN IT’S NOT SO CUT & DRY NOW IS IT?!!!
Why is it that every month we have an unarmed young black male murdered by police?
But these police are reprimanded by suspension and taking aggressive/anger classes?
Is there not a pattern here? ESPECIALLY in Cali? Shame…and that is one of the most diverse areas in the states.
Nina Knows
Hey Sydney, so glad your posting lady.
Funny how people are commenting without even watching the video, are they even reading the articles? Whats sad, is the first thing folks do when they hear the victim is black, is try and find out what kind of a criminal background he/she has, how many kids, and what education level they’ve received. smh.. should it even matter?
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Exactly Nina, and WTF does the race of the Cop have to do with it. Being Police is a state of mind and a brotherhood. Yall seen muthaphuckin menace to society. Your own do you dirty just like white folk, even dirtier sometime!
TO SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
YEAH I WAS RIGHT YOU DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH YOUNGER BLACK MALES!
1. For the people saying “why was he out at 2 am?”…you do realize that it was 2 am on NEW YEARS DAY. I don’t know about you, but I know plenty of people, white, black, rican, etc who are tipsy/drunk and going home at 2 am on public trans at 2 am on new years day. That argument don’t hold water because the cops should be expecting this kind of crap on that day at that time of night.
2. In the news report video, they show a second video that shows clear as day there was no struggle and the kid is co-operating. Not only that, but one cop is holding him down while the other shoots him. THAT is an execution. You wanna send him a message by shooting him? Put a cap in his leg or arm but DO NOT shot him square in the back at point blank range. The cops were wrong and continue to be wrong by not making ANY statements.
Everything in this story leads back to a trigger happy cop who will prolly be using the situation (new years and a crowd of niggas) to defend himself, even though both videos show he and the other cop are 100% guilty.
“@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
Let me tell you something your rants about the black man are pathetic. You have tried and convicted all black men because you have BAD PUSSY! That’s why you hate black men because once you open that Lip OF YOURS your tongue falls out and you say some ridiculous shit and end up being dumped. I can tell your father wasn’t in the home and mother also suffered from BPS—bad pussy syndrome. Your hatred towards men is obvious and its sickening… I see you and your friends here have a battle of the sexes which I think is absolutely pathetic. Get a life and stop being a hateful bitch its eating you alive.
Silence Devil GOD has had enough of the feces in your mouth.”
Get the fuck on your fucking monkey! I don’t remember your fucking as up in that thread yesterday when that young black girl was being blamed for her murderous homicidal ape es husband killing their child rather than to pay child support – and for that matter I don’t see you in any of the black woman bashing threads getting all up in arms over her being dogged out so ge tthe fuck off me…
THe fact remains, whether you like it or not, that this cat is still dead and he isn’t coming back, now is he?!?! And, yes, it could have been avoided if he was home being a father o the 4 year old he kept bringing up insteado f in a public transit station raising hell at 2:00am..
Get the hell on now!!
Guys!! Guys!!!
PLEASE DON’T ANSWER NEGATIVE( it’s the black guys fault)~posts from trolls that work@ BOSSIP!
It not a good look on your parts!!
think
Don’t worry kiddies!!
The world has a way of getting rid of the evil!
(Remember what i said….get some popcorn,and sit back and watch!)~Google the killers name,keep it on file, and watch his familie s life tear apart!!)
Think
Yes, Redd, I think you should view the video, at the least. . .
Karina Vargas is the name of the young woman who captured the shooting on film and below is an excerpt of an interview she gave on what she witnessed:
Karina Vargas told CBS 5 that she was making the tape available so the public would know what transpired shortly after 2 a.m. Thursday at BART’s Fruitvale station when Oscar Grant was shot.
The video, that Vargas said she shot on a brand new camera she received for Christmas, would seem to support previous witnesses accounts that Grant was laying on his stomach with his hands behind him on the train platform when a single shot was fired by a BART officer.
According to Vargas, Grant was not resisting when the gunshot was fired. Vargas said she was standing only about 5 feet away from the shooting scene. She also said she resisted an officer’s attempt to confiscate her camera.
Vargas, who said she was on her way home from a New Year’s celebration along the Embarcadero in San Francisco when she witnessed the shooting, contended that Grant’s “rights were definitely violated” by police.
“1. For the people saying “why was he out at 2 am?”…you do realize that it was 2 am on NEW YEARS DAY. I don’t know about you, but I know plenty of people, white, black, rican, etc who are tipsy/drunk and going home at 2 am on public trans at 2 am on new years day. That argument don’t hold water because the cops should be expecting this kind of crap on that day at that time of night.”
So why wasn’t anyone else shot and killed?? CAUSE THEY DID WHAT THYE WAS TOLD TO DO WHEN THE SITUATION BROKE OUT!! Thats the point I’m trying to make first and foremost!! He provoked this cop!! And New Years or now he should have had his ass home!! New YEars Eve is one of the most dangerous times of the year!! Why didn’t he avoid it?? Now if it were a sista everyone here would be screaming she should have been home with her child New Years or not!! Why not htis cat?? Why is it ok for him to be out raising hell?!?!
SMDH aka SOY SAUCE IS A WHITE PERSON>>>AT LEAST I HOPE SO ANYWAY>>>LOL!!!
“TO SMDH aka SOY SAUCE
YEAH I WAS RIGHT YOU DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH YOUNGER BLACK MALES!”
Only the ones who provoke cops into doing their jobs and then seek pity for it!!
@Sydney!
That’s what i saw on the vid!He was in a curdled postion on the floor,when the cop waskneeled over him!
YOu should open your own blog!!!!
think
TO SMDH aka WHITE SOY SAUCE…SO RIDDLE ME THIS, ARE YOU GLAD HE’S DEAD OR WHAT? BE HONEST!!!
Don’t worry kiddies!!
The world has a way of getting rid of the evil!
(Remember what i said….get some popcorn,and sit back and watch!)~Google the killers name,keep it on file, and watch his familie s life tear apart!!)
Think
“One last thing-the noise (shouting) heard on the video-most of it seems to be coming from the angry witnesses, and not from the men being arrested.”
So why wasn’t anyone else shot or even picked up on the cell phone acting up?? Cause they knew what to do to keep their asses alive.. Why didn’t this cat?? Why was he the only one resisting even after being cuffed and yelling all that “don’t tase me bro” likened bullshit?!??!
OOKKAY: So SMDH by your ‘reasoning’ this guy deserved to be shot because he was begging not to be tasered? Did you really watch the video? Watch again, hopefully with you prejudices set aside. This man was not a danger to the police or the public-therefore there would appear to be no justifiable reason for shooting him.
By the way, I agree that many people-too many people that leave comments on Bossip and the Bossip site itself have disgusting, backward views on black women. However, using that as a justification to denigrate black men is also wrong-you become like the people you criticise.
“SMDH aka SOY SAUCE IS A WHITE PERSON>>>AT LEAST I HOPE SO ANYWAY>>>LOL!!!”
LOL!!
Do you feel like the many many people in that thread yesterday blaming the black mother because she sent her child on a visit with his father and the piece of ape scum used the time to kill their baby rather than to pay a child support order are white too?!?!
“Only the ones who provoke cops into doing their jobs and then seek pity for it!!”
SO WHITE SOY SAUCE KILLING THIS BROTHER WAS DOING HIS JOB…RIGHT?!!! BE CAREFUL HOW YOU ANSWER NOW OKAY?!
“TO SMDH aka WHITE SOY SAUCE…SO RIDDLE ME THIS, ARE YOU GLAD HE’S DEAD OR WHAT? BE HONEST!!!”
No I’m not glad he’s dead.. His mother, daughter and loved ones must be going through hell right now.. Do you think that makes me happy?? But personal responsibility can’t just be out the window here becuase I feel bad for his mom and daughter..
im just phuckin steaming mad
let any of yall azzez kill a cop and see if they care about the technicalities of it, thats it for yo azz.
“Do you feel like the many many people in that thread yesterday blaming the black mother because she sent her child on a visit with his father and the piece of ape scum used the time to kill their baby rather than to pay a child support order are white too?!?!”
WELL THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT SUSPECT IF THEY USE THE TERM “APE SCUM” INSTEAD OF JUST “SCUM”!
@Tiray
Even the police acknowledge that Mr. Grant was, indeed, unarmed. This whole incident absolutely reeks of wrongdoing. . .
@Nina
“Funny how people are commenting without even watching the video, are they even reading the articles? Whats sad, is the first thing folks do when they hear the victim is black, is try and find out what kind of a criminal background he/she has, how many kids, and what education level they’ve received. smh.. should it even matter?”
I’m surprised by that, too — When I first received a link to a video, I immediately watched it before jumping to conclusions.
I travel to Houston on the regular! They kill their cops! THank god!!
Purpple…
You see how niggas are taught “to act right” you see he was suppose to be “yessa massa” and shit. These tap dancing niggas be their own demise. White people talk much shit to the police. I’ve seen the shit with my own eyes. …
Then they go as far to say “well what was he doing out at 2am?” he a grown mutha fucking man.. so I guess if he had got killed at 2pm, it would have made the situation worst.
These people steady being mind fucked and too stupid to realize it. I never seen so many weak ass dudes either… so quick to say well he must have been doing something… if funny how their reaction is never, damn the police have fucked up again. hmmmm intresting?!
@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
I can tell that you’re a street gutter bitch so Imma treat you like one. First of all I have a LIFE and a HUSBAND unlike your lonely complaining nagging bad pussy mouth self. Secondly I don’t need to make a POINT in every THREAD like you do for people to hear me I talk to my HUSBAND family and friends. I make moves and I volunteer to make a difference. What difference have you made but opening your mouth and legs and ending up as empty as that bird brain of yours.
You are like the dirt under my shoes and your emptiness speaks VOLUMES. I get enough attention at home so I don’t make this SITE my entire LIFE like you do. Run along NOW the bowel that you continue to spew is no longer necessary you’ve made yourself irrevelant ignorant and immature all in one thread good work keep it UP!
God Bless
@ Soy Sauce
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I have to agree everyone up in arms today about this young black brother being killed. Where was all this sympathy yesterday for the young boy who was killed by his trifling ass father. Now there were some, a very few, who saw the fault in the father. However, others condemened the mother for putting the black father on child support. (Which she did not). And, there was actually people in there sympathizing with the black male, just because he was a black male. Sad, yet true.
@TRUTH
Just because you call it “reasoning” doesn’t make it “factual.” If anything it shows how backward and lacking your “thinking” skills are.
1. Am “I” not part of the “STATE?” This is a “yes or no” question.
2. Does “fear” absolve one from responsibility? This is a “yes or no” question.
3. Do two “wrongs” make a “right?” This is a “yes or no” question.
“SO WHITE SOY SAUCE KILLING THIS BROTHER WAS DOING HIS JOB…RIGHT?!!! BE CAREFUL HOW YOU ANSWER NOW OKAY?!”
Why should I be careful?? I will answer my heart no matter who it offends..
And I said further up I don’t believe the cop meant to shoot the kid.. You can see that on his face in the recording. But I do believe the situation was avoidable if the male had just sat his ass down against the wall like everyone else caught on the same camera did!! All those people up against the wall sitting down doing as they were told… Why did this buy end up in a melee with the cops??
And why won’t anyone in here defending his actions answer that?? Why won’t anyone answer me when I ask why this guy was the only one not sitting against the wall obediently like everyone else being detained was?? Why was he the only one rolling aorund resisting arrest yelling don’t shoot me bro?!?! Aswer me, please!!
C’mon now!! Yo don’t have an answer because their isn’t one!! He was resisting arrest and even after we was cuffed he was still flailing around and being unruly!! For all we know he could have directly caused that gun to go off with all the resisting he was doing!!!
AND SPEAKING OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND SEEING AS HOW IT WAS AN ACCIDENT…RIGHT, THEN THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY, ALONG WITH THE POLICE FORCE, AS WELL AS THE OFFICER IN QUESTION AND THE CITY NEED TO BE SUED AND COMPENSATION PAID FOR THIS YOUNG MAN’S LIFE TO HIS FAMILY>>>PERIOD!!!
The Bossip staff is so ignorant and unprofessional with their posts isn’t ridiculous.
Anyway, YES blacks are still being execute. The hangings NEVER stopped. It isn’t better than slavery time or the 20s or the 60s, IT IS WORSE. Just because you have a black president and A black billionaire doesn’t mean that blacks are free. We are still slaves, we just don’t know it.
So don’t be surprised.
PURPPLE
im just phuckin steaming mad
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I am too girl, we all should be. I feel like they just killed my brother. So quick to make reasoining for it, until the shit happens to them. Then they want everybody and they mama praying, marching, and protesting.
I’m sensing ALOT of white posters!!!
Can you discern?
think
SO POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS & HAVE NO TRAINING WHATSOEVER IN CRISIS SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS ONE THEN ACCORDING TO YOUR ARGUMENTS!
Hi Sydney.
Besides the Vargas video, there’s another video with a more direct angle that shows the dude being held down while another cop draws his gun and shoots Grant in the back. Then they all jump up like wtf?
Sickening.
@SMDH
“No I’m not glad he’s dead.. His mother, daughter and loved ones must be going through hell right now.. Do you think that makes me happy?? But personal responsibility can’t just be out the window here becuase I feel bad for his mom and daughter..”
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You sound like a fool. The only person who failed not only their “personal responbility” but their “professional responsibility” as well was the police officer.
If he didn’t know how to handle someone in custody that lies at his (incompetent) feet.
Tiray
I’m sensing ALOT of white posters!!!
Can you discern?
think
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Yep.
“I’m sensing ALOT of white posters!!!
Can you discern?”
I FEEL YA ON THAT.
@SMDH
“And I said further up I don’t believe the cop meant to shoot the kid.. You can see that on his face in the recording. But I do believe the situation was avoidable if the male had just sat his ass down against the wall like everyone else caught on the same camera did!! All those people up against the wall sitting down doing as they were told… Why did this buy end up in a melee with the cops??”
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No, the situation could of been avoided if the cop didn’t pull his gun. I wonder if he would go to the local white high school fight “guns blazing.”
I wonder why his “fellow officers” didn’t arrest him at the scene.
@ TIRAY
I sense alot of ignorant niggas that might as well be white posters!
I did
“@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
I can tell that you’re a street gutter bitch so Imma treat you like one. First of all I have a LIFE and a HUSBAND unlike your lonely complaining nagging bad pussy mouth self. Secondly I don’t need to make a POINT in every THREAD like you do for people to hear me I talk to my HUSBAND family and friends. I make moves and I volunteer to make a difference. What difference have you made but opening your mouth and legs and ending up as empty as that bird brain of yours.
You are like the dirt under my shoes and your emptiness speaks VOLUMES. I get enough attention at home so I don’t make this SITE my entire LIFE like you do. Run along NOW the bowel that you continue to spew is no longer necessary you’ve made yourself irrevelant ignorant and immature all in one thread good work keep it UP!
God Bless”
LOL at this fucking n!gger really thinking this shit here would shut me down or get me to leave!! I will speak my mind whenever I feel the need to do so and if your fucking monkey ass doesn’t like it maybe YOU should consider leaving!! I have a right to state my opinion and whoever doesn’t like it can kiss my black ass!!
Go fuck yourself n!gger!!
I’m stayin, I’m stayin – and you and you: you’re gonna love me!!
@ Man, I just dont care…
You making alot sense.
With this current ADMINISTRATION about to rule, expect more of this to happen MANY TIMES!!
There will be shooting’s on empty highways,(with little or no adherence!
There will be a time when cops will ban together(AGAIN) AND TAKE RANDOM BLACK LIVES!!
There are cop neighboorhoods that wanted McCain to win SO BAD, that they will be anything….(if you DON’T BELIEVE ME, GO TO STORMFRONT.COM,AND LISTEN TO THE HATRED SPREW!!
a vast majority of BLACKS will DEFEND their actions BECAUSE OF selfhatred AND fear!!
Get your popcorn and laptop,and have a good time!!
think
“No, the situation could of been avoided if the cop didn’t pull his gun. I wonder if he would go to the local white high school fight “guns blazing.” ”
He didn’t go to a black hight school this way either.. Again, you’re comparing apples with oranges.. These cops were called to a public station where black males were violently fighting cause a dangerous situation for everyone around them.. What if one of the fighters started shooting… Would it be okay then that a black male was dead – cause one of his own shot him?!?! The cop wasn’t wrong for drawing his gun… All cops draw their guns in dangerous violent situations where their lives, as well as the lives of others, are at risk..
This guy was wrong and you’re not going to change my opinion about that!!
Nina Knows
PURPPLE
im just phuckin steaming mad
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I am too girl, we all should be. I feel like they just killed my brother. So quick to make reasoining for it, until the shit happens to them. Then they want everybody and they mama praying, marching, and protesting
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Nina people are really just sick and walking dead.
Like you said that could have been any of our brothers or fathers etc.
You see how niggas are taught “to act right” you see he was suppose to be “yessa massa” and shit. These tap dancing niggas be their own demise. White people talk much shit to the police. I’ve seen the shit with my own eyes. …
Then they go as far to say “well what was he doing out at 2am?” he a grown mutha fucking man.. so I guess if he had got killed at 2pm, it would have made the situation worst.
These people steady being mind fucked and too stupid to realize it. I never seen so many weak ass dudes either… so quick to say well he must have been doing something… if funny how their reaction is never, damn the police have fucked up again. hmmmm intresting?!
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I couldn’t have said it better. You can be the best nigga you can be but to them you are still a nigga, 3/4 of a man. Won’t no police come at another white man that aggressively because their life is still valued more than ours.
There are two videos from two different angles. To paint this as a police officer doing it on purpose it ridiculous. The body language of those involved in the shooting suggests an accident.
This officer should lose his job and be charged.
Nina@
True that baby…true that!
think
“AND SPEAKING OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND SEEING AS HOW IT WAS AN ACCIDENT…RIGHT, THEN THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY, ALONG WITH THE POLICE FORCE, AS WELL AS THE OFFICER IN QUESTION AND THE CITY NEED TO BE SUED AND COMPENSATION PAID FOR THIS YOUNG MAN’S LIFE TO HIS FAMILY>>>PERIOD!!!”
Nope – I disagree.. Not if he gave them reason to pull it.. It is was gone off from his holster then PAY THE FAMILY but not if this cat was the reason the gun was even pulled..
TO WHITE SOY SAUCE:
AFTER ALL THAT HATRED YOU JUST SPEWED IN YOUR LAST POST WHY WOULD YOU EVEN INVOKE THE LORD’S NAME BY SAYING “GOD BLESS”?! ARE YOU KNOW WISHING THEM HIS BLESSINGS AFTER CALL THEM “GUTTER BITCH”?! VERY INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST.
No, the situation could of been avoided if the cop didn’t pull his gun. I wonder if he would go to the local white high school fight “guns blazing.”
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Hell to the no you know they dont. They’ll let a white man cuss them out and spit in they daym face before they put the cuffs on em. I done seen it happen.
“Nina people are really just sick and walking dead.
Like you said that could have been any of our brothers or fathers etc.”
As could it be your mother or sister these black males are dogging when they are running around bashing the hell out of the black woman talking all types of shit about her..
It may have been a so-called “accident,” but the outcome is the same — an unarmed man lying on the ground was shot at close range.
Now there are rumors that the officer actually meant to use his Taser, but I thought the use of a stun gun was a measure of last resort. With all those officers around, and the young men all in compliant positions, they couldn’t control the situation without the use of a weapon?
There are so many problems here. . .
“I sense alot of ignorant niggas that might as well be white posters!
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Yep.
“This guy was wrong and you’re not going to change my opinion about that”!!
AND FOR SURE YOU’RE NOT CHANGING MY OPINION THAT YOU ARE WHITE SOY SAUCE EITHER!!! LOL!!!
“TO WHITE SOY SAUCE:
AFTER ALL THAT HATRED YOU JUST SPEWED IN YOUR LAST POST WHY WOULD YOU EVEN INVOKE THE LORD’S NAME BY SAYING “GOD BLESS”?! ARE YOU KNOW WISHING THEM HIS BLESSINGS AFTER CALL THEM “GUTTER BITCH”?! VERY INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST.”
I didn’t say anything about GOD BLESS!! That was YOU who said it.. I quoted you.. Look for the quotation marks, son!!
BLACK MEN STAND UP AND UNITE FOR YOUR FELLOW MAN-THIS IS OBVIOUS INJUSTICE
OH YEAH I FORGOT-TOO BUSY BLAMING EVERYBODY ELSE INSTEAD OF TAKING ACTION
COPS DO THIS CAUSE THEY CAN AND “BLACK MEN” DON’T MAKE ENOUGH NOISE ABOUT THE OBVIOUS STEREOTYPING OR INJUSTICE COMMITTED AGAINST THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO BUSY BEING HOUSE JEGROES AND PROCREATING WITH “OTHER” RACES HOPING TO BE ACCEPTED BY THE “WHITE MAN” LOL-
THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT “YOU” BECAUSE YALL WEAK AZZEZ DON’T CARE ABOUT YOURSELVES-
WHATEVA-WHEN YOUR READY TO PROTEST/RIOT ETC. I’LL FOLLOW YOUR LEAD “BLACK MAN”
YEAH RIGHT…..
As could it be your mother or sister these black males are dogging when they are running around bashing the hell out of the black woman talking all types of shit about her
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cmon SMDH what does that have to do with this? The issue at hand has nothing to do with brothers mistreating sister. Please separate your issues for the sake of an effective debate.
The only other thing that I heard that makes sense is that he pulled the trigger by mistake which is still no excuse, he needs to be booked, fingerprinted and charged
Jan 6, 2009 – 2:53 pm
Who ever you saw that happen to is a punk. My husband is not going to let some person whether they be black or white spit in his face and talk sideways to him. Shit like that doesn’t fly for everyone
@REDDNWOOD!
I think that trolls are here for the sake of hits! Please remember that this is a money site,and when you see obvious stupidity in a poster, you GOTTA know that it’s for the reason of money!
Whites are also peeking in on us!
See bro, the world has a way on taking care of us!
I erge you to get some popcorn(while keeping your karma right),sit down and GOOGLE THE KILLERS NAME.Save it,and watch how his family crumbles. (from poverty,cancer,and suicide!!)
That’s how God roles!!!
think
Did the guy even have a criminal record.
““I sense alot of ignorant niggas that might as well be white posters!”
YOU WANNA SEE MORE OF IT?? LOOK IN THE POST ABOUT THE COON WHO SLIT HIS 2 YEAR OLD SON THROAT RATHER THAN TO PAY CHILD SUPPORT TO IS MOTHER!!
Oh, guy, there’s all types of ignant niggas up in there!! I mean the type that sympathized with the murder while dogging the fuck out of the mother who had nothing to do with it!! But the mere chance to bash a black woman had these ingorant fucking coons in overdrive..
Or did you see it already but that was fine with you? cause it was just a “black bitch” being dogged!?!
I’M CERTAINLY NOT WHITE & THEREFORE NOT YOUR SON & I WOULD NEVER POST TO YOU BY SAYING “GOD BLESS” BECAUSE EVEN IDIOTS LIKE YOU ARE ALREADY BLESSED AS ARE WE ALL BUT YOU MUST HAVE YOUR NEGROES MIXED UP BECAUSE IT WASN’T ME>>>PLAYA!!!
OH YEAH LET ME GUESS…THIS WAS THE FAULT OF A BLACK WOMAN TOO HUH
@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
There you go inviting strangers to that FLAT ASS of yours. NO THANKS! Do you believe that your slanting view is just YOU speaking your mind? You’re fooling yourself, but NOT me. I see its easy for you to pull out the Ni88a word and its easy for me to call you one of the most simple bitches on BOSSIP. You bore me, now U MAY STFU!
Jan 6, 2009 – 2:54 pm Sydney
No, honey. The gun is the last resort. Taser is used if you are not complying with the orders and are being disorderly
Just say an officer is telling you to give them your hands so they can cuff you, if you keep refusing to give up your hand they then have a legal right to taser you.
@ smdh AKA SOYA SAUCE( UNCLE TOM’S WIFE)
YOUR QUOTE: As i said in my last response Sean Bell was just yet another blcak male out at 2:00am within a crowd making things unsafe for the people around them.. What if in both incidents and innocent person was killed due to the situations these 2:00am black males created??? Then what would you say?!?!
ENUFF OF THE “SHUDDA CUDDA WUDDA”… STICK TO THE STORY AT HAND…. THESE ARE PPL WITH TOO MUCH POWER ON THEIR HANDS….
PM:
Yes he does have a prison record. but that’s neither here nor there
“cmon SMDH what does that have to do with this? The issue at hand has nothing to do with brothers mistreating sister. Please separate your issues for the sake of an effective debate.”
My issues are separate. I am speaking my mind about this black male as everyon else around here has no issues speaking their mind about us “black bitches”.. With or hout the debate of how black males treat sistas I would still feel this “victim” was to blame..
ENUFF OF THE “SHUDDA CUDDA WUDDA”…
You’re right because Sean Bell, like this guy here, is dead and he isn’t coming back!!! The streets don’t ever have to fear these two again!!!
@Sydney – whats up ? yeah this is some sad biz , ive been trying to get at my boy who is a teacher in the oakland area to see whats going on , im sure its nuts out there. Im still cracking up at some people that think still that likely he instigated this , granted those situations do happen more than often its on the other end. I dont even know in the past three years how many bodies our local police force has on their hands and while the officers get “fired” noone of them have seen the inside of a jail cell for the blood on their hands
TO TIRAY…THANK YOU FOR THAT KNOWLEDGE AS I’VE ALREADY PEEPED WHITE SOY SAUCE’S CARD NO MATTER WHAT RACE IT IS! LOL!!!
Totally off topic, but Frontline is going to air a documentary on Katrina tonight at 9 ET on PBS — It’s called The Old Man and the Storm:
Six months after Hurricane Katrina slammed into New Orleans, producer June Cross came across 82-year-old Herbert Gettridge working alone on his home in the lower Ninth Ward, a neighborhood devastated when the levees broke in August 2005. Over the next two years, Cross would document the story of the extended Gettridge clan–an African-American family with deep roots in New Orleans–as they struggled to rebuild their homes and their lives. Their efforts would be deeply impacted by larger decisions about urban planning, public health, and the insurance industry, by the decisions of policymakers about federal funding for rebuilding the Gulf, and state and city plans for dispersing those monies. The moving personal story of Mr. Gettridge and his family reveals the human cost of this tragedy, the continued inadequacies of government’s response in the aftermath of Katrina, and how race, class, and politics have affected the attempts to rebuild this American city.
TIRAY
With this current ADMINISTRATION about to rule, expect more of this to happen MANY TIMES!!
There will be shooting’s on empty highways,(with little or no adherence!
There will be a time when cops will ban together(AGAIN) AND TAKE RANDOM BLACK LIVES!!
There are cop neighboorhoods that wanted McCain to win SO BAD, that they will be anything….(if you DON’T BELIEVE ME, GO TO STORMFRONT.COM,AND LISTEN TO THE HATRED SPREW!!
a vast majority of BLACKS will DEFEND their actions BECAUSE OF selfhatred AND fear!!
Get your popcorn and laptop,and have a good time!!
think
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Oh you on it!! I dont know if you a brotha/sista but you on it.
I bet the funeral business wont be going thru a recession!!
WHERE IS MARQUIS DE SADE WITH HIS ANECDOTES AND HYPOTHESIS AND LECTURES ETC.
C’MON MY BROTHERS WHERE IS THE DIALOGUE? THE ONLY TIME YOU MOFOS CAN PREACH OR LECTURE IS WHEN IT’S CONCERNING BLACK WOMEN-WHEN IT’S A POST SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS YOU AND YOU ALONE-YOU MOFOS GO MISSING
@SMDH aka Soy Sauce,
Your ignorance is startling. Self hatred is a sickness, as is blind and judgemental ignorance. You need to turn off the computer, stay off the blogs and educate yourself. There is no justification for murdering a man who is face down, out numbered and handcuffed. Period. You are a sad sad excuse for a human being and would never be called a “sista”.
“@ smdh AKA SOYA SAUCE( UNCLE TOM’S WIFE)”
GOOD ONE CC!!! LOL!!!
@Reddnwood!
At your sevice!!
think
I’m from the bay area and just watched the news, in which they show another video of the shooting. Also, the cop who shot the man was NOT black, he was latino. From the video the man who fired his gun looked up at the other cop and back at Grant with the expression of “oh shit”. This is ridiculous.
@YupYup, your right, I guess I’m trying to give the cops the benefit of the doubt for shooting a man in the back with handcuffs on but its not looking good for them.
@ Miss Informed You are so right. This too is my first time hearing this story and I am constantly checking my news.
I have no comments for the ignorance that other spew here
@ Nina Knows!
I’m a brutha! Push my name ,and you see me!
peace!!!
Truth shut your ass up!!!! you don’t know what happened either. This is not right at all. It doesn’t matter white or black it’s not right. for a young man to shot down when he’s already down.
MDH aka SOY SAUCE
“cmon SMDH what does that have to do with this? The issue at hand has nothing to do with brothers mistreating sister. Please separate your issues for the sake of an effective debate.”
My issues are separate. I am speaking my mind about this black male as everyon else around here has no issues speaking their mind about us “black bitches”.. With or hout the debate of how black males treat sistas I would still feel this “victim” was to blame..
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Ok the world is about free will and you have a right to your opinion but your issues aren’t separate at all if you are bringing up how brothers mistreat sisters in this particular conversation. You would get an E in debate class for that.
Your views don’t surprise me, Im sure there are plenty of white people who think Emmett Till was to blame for his death by whisling at that white woman too.
@YupYup
Thank you, but is the use of a Taser justified when the person is unarmed and on his stomach? That’s my issue with all of this. This was poorly handled beyond belief.
Hey Txhustla
@SMDH…
Or did you see it already but that was fine with you? cause it was just a “black bitch” being dogged!?!
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Naw I wasnt fine with it AT ALL. and another thing I’m not fine with is dogging my people. Men OR women. That shit from yesterday wasnt right and neither is this.
I get what your saying to a cetain extent, but you must understand that if we all jus say “fuck it” there will not be any black people.
If all my sistas gave up and said fuck all you sorry ass niggas and vice versa, what does that guarantee about our existence in this world. I love being black, and I cant help that some get caught up in the nigganess at times. But I will NEVER turn my back on my brothas or my sistas.
Now back to your black male bashing SMDH. … smh
Ironic that this took place in Oakland. I’m in favor of reforming the got-damn Panthers right about now…
daym Tiray got the hookup and shyt hit his name and his myspace pop up.
HF
Ironic that this took place in Oakland. I’m in favor of reforming the got-damn Panthers right about now…
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Yes lets get it moving…..
@CandidCanuck et al
We all know that the cops have hair triggers when it comes to Urban youth therefore urban youth need to stay clear of the cops and don’t act the fool in public. We know that cops won’t go into the melee of white boys with their guns out. It doesn’t matter. Know your situation and you won’t get shot.
@Syd..
I’m def going try and catch that tonight. We can chop it up about that one tomorrow!!
“. I dont even know in the past three years how many bodies our local police force has on their hands and while the officers get “fired” noone of them have seen the inside of a jail cell for the blood on their hands”
Do you have any idea how many black males kill other black malesand never see the inside of a jail for it??
Without even having a stat infront of me I can tell you it VASTLY outnumbers the number of cops who kill black males and get away with it!!
SMDH i can’t go back and forth with you until your realize there is no such thing as black women against black men or vice versa…period.
But I will NEVER turn my back on my brothas or my sistas.
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Exactly, who the hell doesnt get fed up with the opposite sex, but no matter how fed up i get I can’t turn against my own.
Shyt I like being black and Im blessed my mother had me by my good black man of a father.
WTH. I heard something about this but I haven’t seen anything about it on the news, so I forgot about it until seeing it again on this web site today.
The video was showing people on the ground and I ws hearing a lot hollering, the picture was going in and out of focus, then I head the shot but could not see when the shot was actually fired and at who. I wish it was more clear.
But you know what, IMO, the only thorough job the police are going to be doing is trying to find a way to come back and say the shooting was justifiable. This sh#t will never stop.
“@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
There you go inviting strangers to that FLAT ASS of yours. NO THANKS! Do you believe that your slanting view is just YOU speaking your mind? You’re fooling yourself, but NOT me. I see its easy for you to pull out the Ni88a word and its easy for me to call you one of the most simple bitches on BOSSIP. You bore me, now U MAY STFU!”
May you suck out of my ass with a flavored straw?!? I don’t have to do shit!! I’m speaking my mind here and there is nothing you can do to stop me.. If you don’t like it then LEAVE!!!
“We all know that the cops have hair triggers when it comes to Urban youth therefore urban youth need to stay clear of the cops and don’t act the fool in public. We know that cops won’t go into the melee of white boys with their guns out. It doesn’t matter. Know your situation and you won’t get shot.”
EXACTLY! The black male needs to stop thinking that he can pull a few white women that he IS the white man… Didn’t that belief get OJ into a world of trouble??!? The black male needs to stop forgetting who he is!!!
Soy sauce you tell!
@Doc
No offense, but it’s not enough to “know our situation.”
The issue is this should NOT have happened. Period.
I’m tired of some of us saying, well, you know the cards are stacked against us, so you better not do such-and-such. . .A wrong is a wrong is a wrong. This was New Year’s Day — I’m sure there was a lot of activity going on during the routine disorder you see on a yearly basis.
Did it justify the shooting of an unarmed man who was lying on his stomach and shot in his back?
I’m from Oakland, and nothing has erupted yet. The details are still surfacing.
Folks that aren’t from here…please dont speak on shit you have no clue about. Truth…in particular.
This brotha was shot in cold blood in front of many folks and the cover up is unbelievable. I’m not sure what’s about to happen, but there will be some justice served. OPD and BART Police should be ashamed of what happened. An innocent life was taken why?
I’m down in Reforming the Panthers. Oakland is in need of a change.
@Tiray…
ok, that’s what’s up. I’ll have to drop you a line. The few of us on here with some sense is a reflection of the real world at hand. So many niggas with the mindset displayed on here, that we walk next to on a daily… it sickening.. and scary.
@Purpple.. ok babe. Let not go there about Emmett Till… a nigga will find a way to blame him for that too. Fuck that white bitch he “whistled” at, and them crackas that killed him… justice was never fully served the way it should have in that case. I can see that pic of his face in that casket now..
I know that Jena turned out to be a debacle, but I loved that for once — for once during my life — brothers and sisters across the nation united on a cause and put their collective feet down. They didn’t sit back and say, well, you know how things are. . .
They said, I know how things shouldn’t be, and they took a stand.
It’s not enough to say well, these young men shouldn’t have been out at 2 a.m. — I see white guys drunk as a skunk out all the time, and they don’t have to fear for their lives. And if an incident does happen, you better believe it will be all over the news, there will be a thorough investigation, and heads are likely to roll.
@SOY SAUCE…
Do me a favor and shut the fuck up… simple bitch.
@ SMDH aka SOY SAUCE, You really need to sit down some where. I am from and live in Oakland. Oscar died at the hands of a reckless, incompetent cop. The BART officer was not Black and I am not sure where you got that from. This was pure criminal negligence on the BART officers part and he will be fired and should be charged with murder. Be careful about what you say…it might be your husband, son or brother, one day. This incident has hurt alot of people, those who knew Oscar and those who have never met him. His life was stolen and there will be a day of reckoning for it.
Nina I know, that is still a sensitive mark in history. his mother has an interview on youtube I believe talking about the case. Im not sure of the title because I saw it on Alexyss Tylor’s vaginapower.ning site.
Just goes to show how people rationalize insanity because they have been brainwashed to accept it.
First off – no one on this blog was there and if you see the different tapes the young man was on the ground – on his stomach – i’m from the bay and they have been showing the real footage here – check out youtube and you will see, even if there was a disturbance no matter what color, race, religion – NO ONE DESERVES TO GET SHOT IN THE BACK!
Jan 6, 2009 – 3:09 pm Sydney
You don’t have to be armed to have a taser used on you. You just have to be fighting the officer. fighting with the officer can mean literally or not giving up your hands, trying to move around and get loose. BUT if you are motionless on your stomach and complying with their orders, there is no damn reason a taser should be pulled or used.
In this particular case the officers would have the right to use a taser if Oscar was being combative, but a gun should have never been pulled and there is nothing in policy that will be able to justify it.
this is such a outrage… and another video has surfaced this morning and is circulating the news today… that makes 3 videos… this video is more clear and clearly shows that the officer looks shocked at what he did as he looks up and down and at the officer next to him looks shocked as well… I pray for everyone involved…
I’m down in Reforming the Panthers. Oakland is in need of a change.
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Count me in
Jan 6, 2009 – 3:22 pm Aint No Joke
If you were from Oakland you would know that OPD has nothing to do with this at all. This is all BART police.
Are you kidding me, this man was unarmed. How are you gonna justify this. He was not resisting. I just saw the tape. There is no way to excuse this.
I hope the officer does time in prison. For those on here Who agee with this unjustified killing, I hope one day your black ass does not get detained and somehow lose your life for no apparent reason.
@ Yup Yup
I would agree with you, but once you are face down on your stomach and handcuffed a taser is no longer an option for use. He’s in custody. That was excessive force….No more…No less!
We should include TEXAS in that reformation too cause we still have a bunch of good ole boys here.
@YupYup
“BUT if you are motionless on your stomach and complying with their orders, there is no damn reason a taser should be pulled or used.”
Exactly. The only movement I saw in the video was among the officers, so why was the officer in question reaching for his “Taser?” How could he be combative when he was on his stomach on the ground?
My question is, why was the use of a “Taser” even considered when this young man was in compliance? This whole tragedy could have been avoided.
@ Yup Yup
I said they should both be ashamed. I know it was BART police involved….but they all go thru the same training. Some OPD are BART Police. I dont need to justify that I’m from Oakland.
Totally random thought cause I might have terrets
I cant stand Majic Johnson
@Purple
Why? Is it that god awful fake smile with all 32 teeth?
Again, those of you who think it was Carlton Banks and his boys discussing philosphy in the train car when the KKK rode in and shot him are deluded.
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The funniest quote of the year!!!! Amen TRUTH!!!
@lady 510 another video came out wow, people will pop out a cell phone camera on that ass in a second. Its a shame that you have do that to the people that are suppose to protect us.
Haha statistics for what ? For my city about completely unrelated topic in relation to the main topic of officer related shootings and no accountability or punitive damages. Argumentum ad logicam – check it out
Whats good in the bay , Is local government conducting a investigation ?
Just goes to show how people rationalize insanity because they have been brainwashed to accept it.
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@pURRPLE
Exactly!
Remember this!
Mother nature has a way of getting rid of it’s evil!! THE COP WASN’T BLACK..( but alot of black cops are worse than whites. They can’t wait to add a notch on their belts! THE BRAINWASHING THAT GOES ON ,ON THE FORCE IN UNBELIEVEABLE!)
This was from a cop that quit the force!
I have also had my share of cop probles!( i don’t even smoke cigareets! LOL!
Black people! REMEMBER who u are!
The Obama Administration is on the verge ! WHITES ARE SCARED…SHITLESS! They will do ANYTHING that they can, to lessen the survival of anyone who they think are below them!
There will be (what i like to call) a WHITE MALE RAMPAGE!(young white males,going crazy,when their black counterparts start making more cash,and ATTRACTING MORE WHITE WOMEN!!)
There will also be more black males being LAIDOFF,WHILE THE BLACK FeMALE WILL RETAIN THEIR JOBS.~~~~THUS DRIVING A DOMESTIC DIVIDE!
Get ready for this !
Remember to marry for love ,not money, and REFUSE to believe what whites tell you!! We are STILL AT WAR…But contrary to belief!!!!
WE ARE WINNING!
THINK
THERE’S NO WAY TO JUSTIFY THIS ACT OF MURDER. THE MAN WAS FLAT ON HIS STOMACH AND HANDCUFFED RIGHT? EVEN IF HE STARTED MOVING OR WHATEVER THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE OFFICER THERE WHO COULD’VE PINNED HIM DOWN. NO TASER OR GUN SHOULD HAVE EVEN BEEN DRAWN IN THE FIRST PLACE. TASERS ARE PROVEN TO KILL WHEN USE REPEATEDLY. IT’S SAD WHEN IT IS RIGHT BACK TO BEING SCARED OF HAVING A TAIL LIGHT OUT, SPEEDING, OR EVEN CELEBRATING NEW YEARS BECAUSE YOU CAN POSSIBLY BE KILLED IF AN OFFICER FEELS LIKE IT.
Purpple.. Me either.. or Charles Barkley.
Special K… oh your in Texas too, sorry to hear that.. lol.
Aint no joke… Good point!
Don’t forget, he’s motionless with a cops knee on his head. I sure bet he was thugging.
It really baffles me, how some of us view certain incidents so differently. I thought it was against the law to shoot someone in the back? There will be an investigation and I am pretty sure justice will be served, at the same time, no one needs to be out terrorizing passengers and fighting and carrying on at 2am. He was asking for trouble. If it he had been shot in the back by the person he was fighting would there still be the same reaction?
What’s wrong with Magic? lol
Oh, and I definitely dislike Charles Barkley — Drunk buffoon. . .
“@SOY SAUCE…
Do me a favor and shut the fuck up… simple bitch.”
@ DADDYO..
Do me a favor and suck my asscrack.. simple coon.
Sydney..
bascially why was any other “forces” needed to restrain him, after he was clearly… already restrained. They trying to say he was resisting, yet they were able to get the cuffs on him in the first place. Hmmm, So they trying to say he was a bigger threat on his stomach AND handcuffed? gtfoh
this is straight up bullshit.
Jan 6, 2009 – 3:37 pm Aint No Joke
Bart police are not trained by the same academy as OPD. OPD has their own academy.
If you are BART police you are BART police. OPD and BART don’t mix officers.
@Special K and Nina
To be honest Special K, I dont even have a prepared sentence for why i don’t like him but this sentiment has been building for years.
and Nina you know dont NOBODY like Barkley…nobody.
K if it aint the smile it is surely the chemo weed slurr in his speach.
@SMUT AKA HATESOYSAUCE,
Again you trifling trollop I have no interest in that infested vagina or open anal cavity of yours. Are you that desperate? You’re not only expressing yourself you’re also showing your IGNORANCE and your Insecurities each time you TYPE. I pity you. I really do you are a sad creature born in sin and so you shall return you ignorant ruthless loser. you: “The BLACK MAN LEFT ME FOR A WHITE WOMAN SO IMMA HATE EM ALL.” Any MAN in his right man would leave a skuss bucket like YOU. Its obvious that you open your mouth with using your brain there is no secret. Furthermore LOSER you can’t dismiss ME. I already dismissed you. I’m not sure why your mother didn’t swallow YOU are such a waste of medicaid.
Reading some of these posts, I feel people need to put their place in everyones shoes so they can assess the situation accordingly. We all were not present, so we really cant judge the situation.
officers responded to the scene and it was their job to find the cause of the unrest,even if it meant arresting every single person at the scene for further questioning…….ok.
forget the “black male” crap (cough,..you know who you are…some kinda sauceor wateva). whether or not this guys is a thug is completely irrelevant in this case.the fact remains he posed no threat AT THE TIME IF THE ARREST.he may/may not have been involved in the fight,hell,he may even have started it.but at the exact time he was fatally shot,he was of no threat to the police or anyone else around him.if he was “resisting arrest” as someone had the nerve to say,how come he was on the floor with one cop over him?the others were’nt even looking at what was going on meaning they didnt think anyone posed a significant threat.
ok…lets lie and say he WAS resisting arrest….ummm aren’t the police trained to deal with UNARMED CIVILIANS resisting arrest WITHOUT resorting to firearms? considering the man was face first on the floor (sidenote: in martial arts,this position offers no advantage and means you’re getting owned),did the officer really need to have his weapon out? in that position,wouldnt his baton have been effective in pushing his head down while he called for backup from his colleagues? these are all questions people need to be asking.
all i’m trying to say is wether you’re a thug or not,wether you’re out at 2am or 2pm,wether you’re a college grad with a steady job and pressed suit, or a regular guy (who just decided to wear a hoodie cuz its warmer), this could happen to you. the people who’s pay is based on your taxes could end up killing you no matter your sex or race. remember new yorker michael mineo? sodomised by cops with a police baton for no damn reason? remember Abner Louima? sodomised by police with a broomistick outside a brooklyn club in 1997? remember Sean Bell? remember Rodney King,march 3rd 1991? remember Brian Sterner january 9th 2008? remember Angela Gabarino, november 17 2007? i could go on for ages but point made. even those DEFENDING the police,….this could happen you you or someone you know,no matter how innocent you are.
forget race,sex,social status and all that…the point here is those paid “to protect and serve” should not betray the trust given them by the citizens.
“It really baffles me, how some of us view certain incidents so differently. I thought it was against the law to shoot someone in the back? There will be an investigation and I am pretty sure justice will be served, at the same time, no one needs to be out terrorizing passengers and fighting and carrying on at 2am. He was asking for trouble. If it he had been shot in the back by the person he was fighting would there still be the same reaction?”
Gee Tara: I asked this very question myself!! If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already?? Would anyone who is sentencing this cop to hell – this cop who isn’t even white – feel for the “victim” then???
Tiray it is mandatory that you come on this site everyday and post at least 10 educational post a day to help your fellow brothers, sisters and cousins get they mind right.
Gee Tara: I asked this very question myself!! If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already?? Would anyone who is sentencing this cop to hell – this cop who isn’t even white – feel for the “victim” then???
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What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen
@Nina
“bascially why was any other “forces” needed to restrain him, after he was clearly… already restrained.”
Yes, exactly.
As I watched the video, I had the eerie feeling that something bad was going to happen, no matter what those young men did. You could sense the fear, and I think there are few things more dangerous than a fearful officer.
I just thought of my brother, and I’m sure that as a black man, he has worked to make himself seem as “unintimidating” as possible when he is law-abiding, educated, and has never hurt a fly. But I know there are people who would eye him with caution and suspicion based on his skin tone.
“Again you trifling trollop I have no interest in that infested vagina or open anal cavity of yours. Are you that desperate? You’re not only expressing yourself you’re also showing your IGNORANCE and your Insecurities each time you TYPE. I pity you. I really do you are a sad creature born in sin and so you shall return you ignorant ruthless loser. you: “The BLACK MAN LEFT ME FOR A WHITE WOMAN SO IMMA HATE EM ALL.” Any MAN in his right man would leave a skuss bucket like YOU. Its obvious that you open your mouth with using your brain there is no secret. Furthermore LOSER you can’t dismiss ME. I already dismissed you. I’m not sure why your mother didn’t swallow YOU are such a waste of medicaid.”
Watch out – you may break your finger with the quickness, anger and force I know you’re typing with.. Don’t bust a vein now.. We’d hate to lose another black male!!
Tara,
I DON’T THINK ANYONE WAS TRYING TO PAINT HIM AS BEING AN ANGEL. I DON’T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS, BUT EVEN IF HE WERE BOTHERING PEOPLE, THE POLICE WERE CALLED THERE TO STOP HIM NOT KILL HIM. THEY COULD’VE ARRESTED HIM AND BOOKED HIM. SHOOTING HIM SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN OPTION. HE WAS NOT ARMED AND HE WAS ALREADY HANDCUFFED ON THE GROUND. IF HE WERE SHOT BY THE OTHER PERSON HE WAS FIGHTING THEN IT IS STILL A LIFE LOST NO MATTER WHAT. FACT IS POLICE ARE HIRED TO PROTECT AND SERVE. EXACTLY WHO DID THEY PROTECT AND WHY DID THEY SERVE THIS MAN A DEATH SENTENCE? NOWADAYS THEY CALL OFFICERS TO SCHOOLS WHEN CHILDREN ARE FIGHTING. SHOULD THEY START SHOOTING THEM AS WELL FOR FIGHTING?
@ Nina Knows
Yes honey I live in Houston and you know that Texas is a good ole boy state where they still believe in getting the rope. Please refer back to Mr. Byrd and how he was tied up to the back of a truck in Jasper TX
@PURPPLE!
Many thanks!
I’ll be sure to check in from time to time!!!
peace
“Gee Tara: I asked this very question myself!! If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already?? Would anyone who is sentencing this cop to hell – this cop who isn’t even white – feel for the “victim” then???
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What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen”
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT!! While you thought you was insulting me with this response all you did was to drive my point home.. Did you say: I WOULD BE JUST AS FUCKING PISSED MURDER IS MURDER AND KILLING IS WRONG REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THE VICTIM AND THE SHOOTER or anything like that??!! No you didn’t!!
You merely drove my point home for me..
THANKS
One last thing….It really shouldn’t matter what the young man’s race was – or the other topics that have nothing to do with a young father being dead – just because you resist arrest doesn’t mean it’s ok to shoot the person, unless they are a threat to you or themselves. Basically, it was new year’s eve – and most people are out that time of night and most have been drinking, so people being rowdy is to be expected – we don’t know the full story – I just wish people would realize it’s more than color. It’s about all of us a nation knowing our rights and utilizing the law in the manner in which will help us rather than letting the law abuse it’s authority
I just thought of my brother, and I’m sure that as a black man, he has worked to make himself seem as “unintimidating” as possible when he is law-abiding, educated, and has never hurt a fly. But I know there are people who would eye him with caution and suspicion based on his skin tone.
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FACT!
PURPPLE
Tiray it is mandatory that you come on this site everyday and post at least 10 educational post a day to help your fellow brothers, sisters and cousins get they mind right.
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lol, I second that motion.
WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THAT WAS PULLED OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD FOR A TRAFFIC STOP AND DECIDED TO “COMMIT SUICIDE” HOW EASILY DID THE MEDIA FORGET ABOUT THAT.
What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen”
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT!! While you thought you was insulting me with this response all you did was to drive my point home.. Did you say: I WOULD BE JUST AS FUCKING PISSED MURDER IS MURDER AND KILLING IS WRONG REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THE VICTIM AND THE SHOOTER or anything like that??!! No you didn’t!!
You merely drove my point home for me..
THANKS
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huh?
Blacks dont like to look at their own dirty laundry…and the fact of the matter is…if you look at the statistics in any major city…there are more black men killing black men, women and babies than any cop. I am not going to lie, if the story was about a Berkeley student, on the Dean’s list with a promising career/future, that was shot in the back cause he happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time I would feel a sense of anger and wanting to get some quick justice or answers, but to me he was asking for trouble from the moment he decided to do whatever he was doing at 2am in the train station. We all have choices and this is what bad choices leads to.
@DVEESSH!
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stuff like this makes me want to go out and kill the pigs have a bloody massacre i’ll em all black ,white and mexican
“Again, those of you who think it was Carlton Banks and his boys discussing philosphy in the train car when the KKK rode in and shot him are deluded.”
YOU AINT NEVA LIED!!! Say that again!! LOL!!
Cnn was just talking about this
Some Cops think they’re above the law SMDH
R.I.P
right now there are a lot of things we DONT know… but what we DO know:
The Bart Officer was NOT black
the Man was NOT armed
the officer name is Johannes Mehserle
He is 27
right now it does not look good for this officer… he may face criminal charges as he should… and IMO 25 million is not even a fraction close to the amount he life is worth as a father, son, nephew etc… and not just as a black man but a MAN period.
And for you idiots out there who don’t have a brain… if the police says that Mr. Grant reached for his gun while they were struggling, that argument is completely mitigated once the officer who shot Mr. Grant stood up. He eliminated the threat by standing up.
Mr. Grant also could not have reached for the gun of the officer who had his knee placed behind his neck unless he was contortionist for Cirque Du Soliel. And since they’re touring in Atlanta right now, I would say those chances are also slim.
Tara sounds weak minded and too damn naive. That good ol kumbaya syndrome shit.
There is no two sides to this. It wrong from every angle.
@Special K.. what you talking about!! Texas is full of racist ass whites and racist ass blacks who hate themselves. I guess thats why I stand out, niggas steady asking me where I’m from, shit I been it for years. The day somebody believe I was born in TX…. I’m moving.
lol
“Again, those of you who think it was Carlton Banks and his boys discussing philosphy in the train car when the KKK rode in and shot him are deluded.”
YOU AINT NEVA LIED!!! Say that again!! LOL!!
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Thats the problem you matrix niggas think everybody should be looking and acting like carlton banks white azz black self.
You niggas should just put the chains back on seriously so you dont even have to open ur mouth and expose urself.
@ Tara..
You are an excellent house negro. I bet you make whitey so proud.
continue…
TIRAY
@DVEESSH!
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lol
haha who hates themselves , I love my state…U probably just need to stay clear of deep east texas other than that we dont have that drama here like that – check next door in LA or MS…
@Special K – Im talking to my kin Houston now , wasnt there a shooting like this that just happened
LADY ARCHITECH,
Children are children and this is a grown man, sweetheart. Someone who should know better. The police seen him as a threat…he had plenty of opportunity to sit his ass down somewhere or take his ass home, but he wanted to be apart of the chaos…that was his choice…and those were the consequences. I don’t feel inclined to ruin a law abiding citizens’ career over this incident.
@ PURPLE:
READ THE ENTIRE CORRESPONDENCE AND THEN COMMENT – AND TRY TO STAY FOCUSED THIS TIME…
“Gee Tara: I asked this very question myself!! If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already?? Would anyone who is sentencing this cop to hell – this cop who isn’t even white – feel for the “victim” then???
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What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen”
THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT!! While you thought you was insulting me with this response all you did was to drive my point home.. Did you say: I WOULD BE JUST AS FUCKING PISSED MURDER IS MURDER AND KILLING IS WRONG REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THE VICTIM AND THE SHOOTER or anything like that??!! No you didn’t!!
You merely drove my point home for me..
THANKS
@Tiray
Brother, I enjoy your posts, but I’m going to have to disagree politely on this one point you made:
“There will also be more black males being LAIDOFF,WHILE THE BLACK FeMALE WILL RETAIN THEIR JOBS.~~~~THUS DRIVING A DOMESTIC DIVIDE!”
This is an Equal Opportunity recession, and there are sisters losing jobs as well. In fact, I read a story over the weekend about people with multiple degrees who are having trouble finding employment. Everyone is hurting.
Tara,
THAT IS VERY CRUEL OF YOU TO SAY. FOR ONE HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS MAN DOESN’T TAKE NIGHT COURSES AND WAS JUST OFF ON WINTER BREAK? I DON’T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS MAN’S LIFE, BUT ASSUMPTIONS ARE RIDICULOUS SOMETIMES. I WENT TO AN IVY LEAGUE COLLEGE AND YOU KNOW WHAT THERE WERE STUDENTS BLK AND WHITE HUSTLIN SELLING X AND WEED. THERE WERE GIRLS MESSING WITH TEACHERS AND WORKING AT LOCAL STRIP JOINTS. THIS WAS ALL AT ONE OF THE TOP SCHOOLS, BUT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW BECAUSE THIS STUFF DOESN’T GET OUT TO THE MEDIA. WEARING A SKULLY AND HOODIE DOESN’T AUTOMATICALLY MEAN YOU ARE SOME TYPE OF THUG.
@ Doc;
in other words, you’re saying to develop the plantation mentality….. sorree massah.. HELL NO! No one deserves to be shot DEAD because they were resisting arrest. NOBODY.
And for you idiots out there who don’t have a brain… if the police says that Mr. Grant reached for his gun while they were struggling, that argument is completely mitigated once the officer who shot Mr. Grant stood up. He eliminated the threat by standing up.
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EXACTLY
THERE WAS NO ESCLATION OF POWER..NO BATOONS NO TAZERS NO ROUGHING THE GUY UP THEY JUST SHOOT HIM WITH ANOTHER OFFICER STANDING RIGHT BESIDE HIM
AND NO OTHER OFFICERS HAD LOADED GUNS WHICH SUGGEST THERE WERE NO VISIBLE THREATS
THIS IS MURDER…AND IF HE DOESN’T STAND TRAIL ON THIS EARTH PLEASE BELIEVE HIS GOD WILL JUDGE HIM
Nina Knows
@ Tara..
You are an excellent house negro. I bet you make whitey so proud.
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lmao
dance nigga dance….
i have no mercy for uncle toms or house niggas..yeah i said nigga.
“You niggas should just put the chains back on seriously so you dont even have to open ur mouth and expose urself.”
Purple, PULEEZE!! I could tell you about some coons who need to put the chains back on………….
PURPPLE…
Thats the problem you matrix niggas think everybody should be looking and acting like carlton banks white azz black self.
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Real Mutha Fucking Talk. These negroids aka nigga robots. Coping whitey and will never be white, walking around looking like poodles and shit. Wearing swearing tied on your back and shit.
Just cause a black man have on a tshirt and sneakers doesnt make him any less educated or a thug.
Tara
I am not going to lie, if the story was about a Berkeley student, on the Dean’s list with a promising career/future, that was shot in the back cause he happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time I would feel a sense of anger and wanting to get some quick justice or answers, but to me he was asking for trouble from the moment he decided to do whatever he was doing at 2am in the train station. We all have choices and this is what bad choices leads to.
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Sounds like an elitist point of view.
NINA KNOWS
I wont’ even comment to you in depth, it will definitely go right over your head. I will just say that you make whitey proud! I make all Americans proud, women and men, dont get it twisted mama!
@ smut mouth SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
Guess what IDIOT? I’m not a MAN, nor have I busted a vein on your simple ass. You needed the attention so I thought I would indulge myself just once to see what you were made up and now i see its all BULLSHIT. I suggest that you do something to get YOUR life together instead of worrying what the BLACK MAN is doing because I now see why NO ONE wants you. You’re all MOUTH with no lubrication. Pray smut sauce and beg to be delivered from anger, envy, and sloth.
Before I forget: How bout you go get you some drinking straws stick em up your ass place gently in that yuck mouth of your ass and be SILENT
LMMFCO
@ SYDNEY!!
If i was a woman, i would disagree also!
I mean, why would those whites DO something so….so….so….dishonest as to divide and conquer!
i’VE BEEN LUCKY TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL…ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS!!
My dad told me once! IF YOU KNOW YOUR ENEMY,YOU’LL NEVER LOSE A FIGHT!!
remember your enemy! THE REAL ONE!
@SMDH aka SOY SAUCE please don’t get you started on coons lol
HF!
They called Obama an Elitist!
@ Tara
It hasn’t been proven that this young man was doing anything wrong on the train. It was New Year’s Eve/Day…and BART was running extended hours so that people would get home safely from parties and such. Thats why he and everyone else was on the train @ 2am. That doesn’t excuse the fact that he was defenseless and shot to death in the back.
@ tara!
LOL! sPOKEN LIKE A TRUE WHITE MALE!
If you are black, you may have a problem. (laughs at myself…LOL)
See Tara!
You may be in the interest of ALL AMERICANS….BUT BELIEVE YOU ME, IF YOU ARE BLACK, ALL AMERICANS ARE NOT FOR YOU!
i.e.~ if you know your enemy, you’ll never lose a fight!
pray for insight!!
LOL @ Tiray
Brother, I’m not disagreeing because I’m a woman, I’m disagreeing because it’s a fact — This recession is affecting a lot of people across the board. . .
And I don’t think there is some master plan behind it either — I think the depths to which the economy has declined has puzzled the smartest and seasoned economists. Times are really tough, and it’s going to get worse before it gets better.
Sydney
I hear you! Yes! ALL PEOPLE WILL SUFFER. But please remember, please!! That THERE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT TO DEMEAN THE BLACK WOMAN…..you may not want to believe this because we ALL want to be seen as EQUAL! ( i mean, who wants to believe in conpiracies? *)
We are winning, because we were never in the race!
Tara
HF!
They called Obama an Elitist!
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Yeah, but Obama didn’t say “I’m not gonna lie, I’d b outraged if the cops shot a Harvard law school graduate, but since he wasn’t…”
Lotsa implications there.
Okay SMDH let me break this down for you niggas only style
THIS IS THE QUESTION STATED BY YOU OR TARA, YOU MOST LIKELY
“If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already??”
WHAT I SAID WAS
“What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen”
WHAT THAT LOGICALLY MEANS IS
your what if situation holds no validity because that is not what happen, so it would be beneficial to deal with the facts and reality at hand..not asking circumstantial “what if” questions trying to make an imaginary connection to the tragedy at hand
Understand, or should I get gully and cuss and shyt?
I have no idea how your comment that followed pertained to mines…
“Did you say: I WOULD BE JUST AS FUCKING PISSED MURDER IS MURDER AND KILLING IS WRONG REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THE VICTIM AND THE SHOOTER or anything like that??!! No you didn’t!!”
You merely drove my point home for me..”
Why would I have to say that when it’s common sense, you cant go find no comment where i said only white people murdering black men is wrong either so you really should stop reaching or try it with someone dumber, it might work. Back to the issue at hand, not ANY what if situations that AREN’T material to this situation at hand.
Tara
NINA KNOWS
I wont’ even comment to you in depth, it will definitely go right over your head. I will just say that you make whitey proud! I make all Americans proud, women and men, dont get it twisted mama!
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Your a smart nigga. Yes please keep it moving boo, I could run circles around your simple ass. lol, you would brag about being an AMERIKKAN.
run along girl scout.
When will Black people tire of Saltine and Ritz pink albinos recessives murdering them?
So many questions…so many.
consider that my last post to you on this topic SMDH. I can’t keep debating on your level. It’s beneficial for you but detrimental to me.
@Tiray
“That THERE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT TO DEMEAN THE BLACK WOMAN”
You know, I. . .
I’m not going to touch that today, lol — I’m still tender from yesterday’s cathartic discussion.
What’s Up to all my cool Bossipers,
Just stopping in for a few minutes.
After seeing some other videos of the incident, I think it was an accident or he thought he was using a taser gun.
If he knew what he was doing, I don’t think he would have done that in front of all of those people.
I would like to hear what he has to say on the matter. He first offical statements will tell us more.
Peace,
Mr. Sick
LADY ARCHITECH
I never said wearing a scully or jeans meant they were thugs…and FYI night classes don’t start or end at 2am (smile) Why didnt he avoid the officers? Why didnt he take his ass home? Like I said all that could have been avoided, but his ass wanted trouble. I am not saying he should have been shot in the back, or that the shooting was even justified, I am just saying there were different choices that he could have made to prevent this.
“Blacks dont like to look at their own dirty laundry…and the fact of the matter is…if you look at the statistics in any major city…there are more black men killing black men, women and babies than any cop. I am not going to lie, if the story was about a Berkeley student, on the Dean’s list with a promising career/future, that was shot in the back cause he happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time I would feel a sense of anger and wanting to get some quick justice or answers, but to me he was asking for trouble from the moment he decided to do whatever he was doing at 2am in the train station. We all have choices and this is what bad choices leads to.”
AMEN TARA, AMEN!! I agree!! I would be just as angry if it was a “Carlton Banks” type brotha who got shot.. But I don’t feel bad for this violent thug!! Isn’t that what the black woman bashers up in here are always preaching – STOP LOVIN AND SUPPORTING THE THUG???
You know, when these threads are about deadbeat dads and how poorly the black male treats his women and children the FIRST thing the sista bashers want you to see is the black woman needs to take some of – and in the case of some far gone posters like Kigali and Marquis – ALL THE BLAME because SHE should have made better choices in the man she chose to spread her legs and get pregnant for and all that thug shit.. However when its time to hold the black male accountable for situations he puts himself in there is always a reason or excuse not to.. The black male NEVER puts himself into any bad situations.. The man just has this dastardly plan to eliminate all the black men because of his strength and penis.. Its a bunch of bullshit!! This black male needs to be held accountable just as that sista who “spread her legs for the baby killer” should.. This is fucking ridiculous. Is the black male responsible for anything that goes wrong in his life?? You don’t know how pleasantly shocked I am that they didn’t make it up in here today to blame the black woman for this here..
He did not deserve to die period!!!!
Hello people it was new years eve and I last checked he was grown and could stay out as long as he like.
The cop was not black! If you got to ktvu.com you could get more info before sayin shyt that ain’t true!
@ Sydney!I really think it’s great that you think the way you do! It gives me hope!
THE ONLY THING!
I worked @ a firm awhile back ,and had the oppprtunity to work with lawyers! I exercised something i would call the dreaded….
5 BEER WHITE BOY RULE
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After 5 beers, white people tell you everything that they are feeling ,because they either see you as ” non-threatening, or not important!
THE THINGS I’VE HEARD!
think
How am I bragging?
Real Mutha Fucking Talk. These negroids aka nigga robots. Coping whitey and will never be white, walking around looking like poodles and shit. Wearing swearing tied on your back and shit.
Just cause a black man have on a tshirt and sneakers doesnt make him any less educated or a thug.
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Exactly!!!!!!! that seem like first grade 1-2-3 to me but…..
lol@ Purpple… running circles, running circles.
@We Blacks … girl are you a comedian, cause everytime you post, I’m cracking up!
HF!
They called Obama an Elitist!
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Yeah, but Obama didn’t say “I’m not gonna lie, I’d b outraged if the cops shot a Harvard law school graduate, but since he wasn’t…”
Lotsa implications there
HF, I never said that either. (smile)
Tara
NINA KNOWS
I wont’ even comment to you in depth, it will definitely go right over your head. I will just say that you make whitey proud! I make all Americans proud, women and men, dont get it twisted mama!
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Tell that bullshyt to the Whiteman, the Chinaman, indians and arabs coming over this bitch making money and looking out for their RACE FIRST. yeah they making america proud after they make they own people proud.
I tell any black man “DO WHAT EVER THE POLICE TELL YOU TO DO” and fight your battle in court, especially if you’re alone when approached or pulled over. They already have their finger on the trigger ready to shoot a black man as it is, don’t make it easy for them or give them a reason to kill you.
The sad thing is that this case will end up like Shawn Bell and all the others it will be ruled as justifiable homicide whoever fired the shot won’t do one day in jail.
@ Sydney!
I’m not in hear much,so i don’t know what happened yesterday, but i’m really care about the state of young black america! We think tat we can’t get our points across unless we curse!
We also try being as “honest” as they THINK their white counterparts are,when in fact they’re being hoodwinked! IT HURTS WHEN YOU KNOW THE TRUTH!
think
LOL @ the “5 beer white boy rule”
Oh, I’ve heard some things, particularly after you’ve established trust with certain individuals.
I have a biracial friend who to me looked like a sista with a lighter hue, but some whites mistook her for a full white woman, and she shared some of the incredibly offensive statements made in her presence.
I don’t know if this is the appropriate time, but I would be interested in hearing more about what was shared from you. . .
On a side note, there is a book that came out years ago called “The Good Black” that I’ve wanted to read for a while. It’s about the experience of a Harvard-educated brother who goes to work for a large law firm, and his career went south.
Okay SMDH let me break this down for you niggas only style
THIS IS THE QUESTION STATED BY YOU OR TARA, YOU MOST LIKELY
“If the melee had turned into a shootout and another black male pulled a gun and shot him, would this thread have close to 300 posts already??”
WHAT I SAID WAS
“What If’s are nice but that isn’t what happened so….back to reality of what did happen”
WHAT THAT LOGICALLY MEANS IS
your what if situation holds no validity because that is not what happen, so it would be beneficial to deal with the facts and reality at hand..not asking circumstantial “what if” questions trying to make an imaginary connection to the tragedy at hand
Understand, or should I get gully and cuss and shyt?
I have no idea how your comment that followed pertained to mines…
“Did you say: I WOULD BE JUST AS FUCKING PISSED MURDER IS MURDER AND KILLING IS WRONG REGARDLESS OF THE COLOR OF THE VICTIM AND THE SHOOTER or anything like that??!! No you didn’t!!”
You merely drove my point home for me..”
Why would I have to say that when it’s common sense, you cant go find no comment where i said only white people murdering black men is wrong either so you really should stop reaching or try it with someone dumber, it might work. Back to the issue at hand, not ANY what if situations that AREN’T material to this situation at hand.
Whatever!! the point you proved being that when asked you couldn’t even say it wouldn’t make a difference what color the shooter was.. You were so focused on this “white cop” shooting this thug that you couldn’t even prove mine and Tara’s point wrong about black people not caring when other black mlaes are killing black males but becoming livid when it is a cop who kills one. And its NOT common sense when you won’t just say its wrong no matter what the color is!!
Aight based on what I saw after watching three vids I believe the officer grabbed for the wrong weapon and shop him instead of tasering him…
First of all, it was mass commotion with people yelling and screaming…
Second, if you watch the main news vid, from a distance I looks like the officer just shot that man in cold blood..
Third, if you watch the vid from another angle closer up, as soon as the officer shoots the victims he looks up like “oh shit” in disbelief..
Call it what you want, I think the office basically grabs for the wrong gun..
Ill also tell you this,
Ive taken numerous local, Metro, airport and state police/fire Department exams…Only two I have passed. These departments do not want men and womene that think, they want individuals that act quick assuming they will make an educated decision..I speak from experience..They dont want to know if you can read, write, or know what 2×2 is, they just want you to act quickly…It was funny, I was taking a the DC Metro exam and the instructor said that only 35% of people that take the exam PASS. So Im like oh shit, it must be hard…Well the test could care less if you could read or write, it was all situational questions….After the test I made the observation that most of the men that passed that test (and I an not a prejudice person) looked like the average nigga hustling on my block…Now call that how you want to…
In no way am I asking people to lay down, nor justify the killing of a black male. I am telling you if you were not there for every minute, you cannot really grasp the psycological aspect of what happened….Dont let a video allow you to think irrationally…
My conclusion after watching these THREE vids still could be wrong, because there is still a lot we do not know…
Nina Knows
lol@ Purpple… running circles, running circles.
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Girl this shyt gets tiring and pointless.
Im bout to just invest my time in Vodun or something to force yall niggas to comply. you wont car your mind is already possessed anyway. Game Over.
@TIRAY…
After 5 beers, white people tell you everything that they are feeling ,because they either see you as ” non-threatening, or not important!
THE THINGS I’VE HEARD!
think
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ROFL… White people love to tell you their life story when they get drunk. I agee with the reasons why you listed too, but I always thought they still look at us subliminally as “mammies”.. wanting us to pamper their thoughts and babysit their ass.
They actually think we give a fuck… we’ll I know I dont. They do that to me all the time. I must look approacable aka NON threating… until I open my mouth
Tara,
YOU MAKE NO SENSE AND HAVE COMPLETELY MISSED MY POINT. PLEASE READ AGAIN. YOU ASSUMED THAT THIS MAN WAS A THUG AND NOT A STUDENT. I SAID HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? ALL COLLEGES ARE OFF FOR FALL BREAK AT THAT POINT IN TIME. IT WAS NEW YEARS I KNOW PEOPLE WHO COME HOME LATE FROM CHURCH AT THAT TIME THAT HAVE A NEW YEARS EVE SHUT IN. YOU ARE SAYING HE COULD HAVE MADE DIFFERENT CHOICES LIKE WHAT? TO NOT TAKE THE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM HOME? EVERYONE IN BIG CITIES TAKE THE MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE NIGHT, ESPECIALLY NEW YEARS EVE. IT HASN’T EVEN BEEN PROVEN IF HE WAS EVEN PART OF THE FIGHTING. THEY ASSUMED THAT HE WAS AND ARRESTED MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT NIGHT. WHAT KIND OF COLLEGE EDUCATION DO YOU HAVE? PURE COMMON SENSE SHOULD HAVE KICKED IN, BUT I GUESS YOU NEED TO SIT IN A CLASS AND LEARN THAT TOO. I’M DONE COMMENTING TO THE IGNORANCE YOU HOLD.
@ Sydney!
Yea! It was a blow to my equality mindset!
I would love to share they conversations that i was privilaged to hear!
From neighborhood gentrification, to keeping black females on just to pass them around for sex….knowing that they weren’t single!!
If i knew you were black, i would really get into it. (i don ‘t wanna share pertinent info. with a guy in Alabama with a rebel flag in his bedroom…LOL!)
You do understand?
think
Redd Tony
Aight based on what I saw after watching three vids I believe the officer grabbed for the wrong weapon and shop him instead of tasering him…
First of all, it was mass commotion with people yelling and screaming…
Second, if you watch the main news vid, from a distance I looks like the officer just shot that man in cold blood..
Third, if you watch the vid from another angle closer up, as soon as the officer shoots the victims he looks up like “oh shit” in disbelief..
Call it what you want, I think the office basically grabs for the wrong gun..
Ill also tell you this,
Ive taken numerous local, Metro, airport and state police/fire Department exams…Only two I have passed. These departments do not want men and womene that think, they want individuals that act quick assuming they will make an educated decision..I speak from experience..They dont want to know if you can read, write, or know what 2×2 is, they just want you to act quickly…It was funny, I was taking a the DC Metro exam and the instructor said that only 35% of people that take the exam PASS. So Im like oh shit, it must be hard…Well the test could care less if you could read or write, it was all situational questions….After the test I made the observation that most of the men that passed that test (and I an not a prejudice person) looked like the average nigga hustling on my block…Now call that how you want to…
In no way am I asking people to lay down, nor justify the killing of a black male. I am telling you if you were not there for every minute, you cannot really grasp the psycological aspect of what happened….Dont let a video allow you to think irrationally…
My conclusion after watching these THREE vids still could be wrong, because there is still a lot we do not know
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I feel what your saying Redd and a mistake is the only other option i could consider but even if it was a mistake…
He needs to be charged with murder and do time, even if involuntary manslaughter. The officer making a mistake will not bring this young man back.
While he is sitting in the Penn, he can think of his own psychological issues and inner weaknesses that led him to this point in his life…everything happens for a reason.
He signed up for the job and needs to face the consequences.
“@ smut mouth SMDH aka SOY SAUCE,
Guess what IDIOT? I’m not a MAN, nor have I busted a vein on your simple ass. You needed the attention so I thought I would indulge myself just once to see what you were made up and now i see its all BULLSHIT. I suggest that you do something to get YOUR life together instead of worrying what the BLACK MAN is doing because I now see why NO ONE wants you. You’re all MOUTH with no lubrication. Pray smut sauce and beg to be delivered from anger, envy, and sloth.
Before I forget: How bout you go get you some drinking straws stick em up your ass place gently in that yuck mouth of your ass and be SILENT
LMMFCO”
Guy, you’re the one turning to what the black mlae does best when he can’t shut a black woman down – insulting me sexually – but you call ME the smut mouth!!
How’s this for a smut mouth: lick my clit, bitch!!
Screw off, clown!!
Purpple…lol
You know its against the law to put the words “nigga” and “proud” in the same sentence. This dumb ass tara talking about she an American and shit. She had me rolling with that one.
New flash uncle toms, when white people say “All American” .. they not talking about your black ass.
@ NINA
WORD!
Tara
HF!
They called Obama an Elitist!
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Yeah, but Obama didn’t say “I’m not gonna lie, I’d b outraged if the cops shot a Harvard law school graduate, but since he wasn’t…”
Lotsa implications there
HF, I never said that either. (smile)
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Maybe not outright. Maybe not even your intention, but your comment, and I quote:
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“I am not going to lie, if the story was about a Berkeley student, on the Dean’s list with a promising career/future, that was shot in the back cause he happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time I would feel a sense of anger and wanting to get some quick justice or answers, but to me he was asking for trouble from the moment he decided to do whatever he was doing at 2am in the train station.”
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… is a logical fallacy. Your implication being that since dude wasn’t a Berkeley student, he was automatically doing something wrong at 2 AM. That smack of elitism. I’m pretty good about giving the benefit of the doubt in these situations -and perhaps that’s not what u meant- but that’s how it came across.
WINTER BREAK*
“After 5 beers, white people tell you everything that they are feeling ,because they either see you as ” non-threatening, or not important!
THE THINGS I’VE HEARD!
@ Tiray
Before I try that, you are going to have to tell me the secret as to how I am supposed to sit through five beers with them without hooking off by the third.
@Tiray
“If i knew you were black, i would really get into it. (i don ‘t wanna share pertinent info. with a guy in Alabama with a rebel flag in his bedroom…LOL!)
You do understand?”
I’m sorry, but my black arse is rolling with laughter at this. . .
*sigh*
justifications, justifications. ;(
lol@ SMDH and the fact you know you wrong so your trying to justify ur “point” by using a common value that is instilled in most people that doesn’t need to be stated.
Thats the last time Im coming from the 10th to the 3rd floor for you.
No hard feelings though sweets
lol@Ill
hey Mr!
New flash uncle toms, when white people say “All American” .. they not talking about your black ass.
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lmaoooo. I have to admit there still is some fun in doing this. that had me rolling.
@Sydney – yeah was talking to my kin about this apparently we had a situation like this here , luckily the poor kid survived the drama on his own door step…So for everyone still blaming this poor man for being the innocent victim of police violence and somehow how his socio-economic status helped contribute to his death – please feel free to check on google what just happened here in my neck of the woods to Robbie Tolan since they wont let me post the link here..yeah this happens to every one rich poor black white etc , ill still maintain my problem is with those that are supposedly here for my protection – im not worried that why I cover that part myself..
@ILLUMITE TRUTH!!
hAHAHHAHAHAH……..THe trick to keeping sober, is to put coffee in a rocks glass,and ice,and call it kalua and creme! LOL! But you’re sober as hell,and they’ll never know the dif!
LOLLL!
think
If It was a mistake that Officer just have to charge it to the game and suffer the consequences
I done made several mistakes that I’ve had to suffer the consequences of. The fact that it was a mistake didn’t make those consequences any easier really.
Lady Architech,
you missed my point as well. His ass didnt even need to be standing there, walking towards the commotion or anything…and he didnt even need to say anything if he wasnt trying to be apart of the situation he sure fooled me. There is a miscommunication between us…and we each have a wall up now, so you are right no need to respond to eachother any longer.
ill still maintain my problem is with those that are supposedly here for my protection – im not worried that why I cover that part myself..
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fact!
sly grin
me too!
@SYdney!!
Are you in England?
Other than being tasered probably wouldnt have killed him, how is that a better option?.. after he was already detained, handcuffed, and faced on his stomach.
@smut sauce,
I would never lick that trash compost you call a pussy. I don’t do infested areas nor would I ever EVER NEVER EVER eat that BASS FISH in between those baseball bats you call legs. Bitch I know you’re jaggin off everytime I say something, but I don’t want you hoe I’m busy.
Hey Smut no thanks for the lack of entertainment you soggy mouth frog. I tell you what smut sauce. Go take your medication and meet me on huffpost and leave that rotted bass of yours at the library.
PURPLE
The most sense you have made all day!
If It was a mistake that Officer just have to charge it to the game and suffer the consequences
I done made several mistakes that I’ve had to suffer the consequences of. The fact that it was a mistake didn’t make those consequences any easier really.
Hey, Ill
@Txhustla
Wow, I had heard of this story. I think this link may go through. Thanks for sharing:
chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6195571.html
Yes, this Oakland shooting isn’t an isolated event, by any means, and it could happen to anyone.
@Purp
Im not saying that because I think he drew the wrong weapon that he should get off…Involuntary manslaughter sounds about right for me? But dont look at this situation as a cause of war of some sort….
In my city a black officer that shot a black lil boy got off, and the police said the lil boy shot at the officer, but they found NO gun…Where was the riotting and outrage in DC..Other than the lil boy’s block, there was none…
All Im asking people to do is look at the situation from all sides, and not all of Black America is not seeing it that way, and I am not expecting them too…
All I know is If the City Oakland lets this officer off, there may be a riot..
Thats the last time Im coming from the 10th to the 3rd floor for you.
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Purp, you killin me over here.
I think SMDH, rides the retarded bus with kigali, and ARTOFWAR!
Redd Tony,
yOU PRETTY PROVED THE POINT THAT MOST OFFICERS OFTEN LACK INTELLIGENCE AND MANY ARE EDUCATED ON HOW TO KILL AND NOT TO THINK LOGICALLY. EVEN WITHOUT ANY OF THE VIDEOS OR ANY ANGLES: IT HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED THAT THIS MAN WAS UNARMED, HANDCUFFED WITH HIS CHEST TO THE GROUND. EVEN IF HE SHOOK HIS BODY, THERE WAS NOT A NEED FOR EVEN THE TASER. THERE WAS AN OFFICER WITH HIS KNEE ON THE BACK OF THE MAN’S NECK. THE TASER WOULD’VE JUST BEEN A SIMPLE ABUSE OF POWER WHICH OFFICERS OFTEN GET AWAY WITH. THE FACT THAT THE OFFICER SHOT HIM AND SHOOK HIS HEAD WAS PROBABLY ON SOME “DAG HOW WILL I GET OUT OF THIS ONE, I WAS JUST GONNA TASE HIM A FEW TIMES FOR FUN” IF HE DOESN’T GET MURDER THEN HAVE TO ATLEAST GIVE HIM MANSLAUGHTER AND MAKE HIM DO HIS TIME JUST LIKE THE NEXT PERSON WOULD HAVE TO. HOW DO YOU FORGET WHICH SIDE IS YOUR GUN AND WHICH SIDE IS YOUR TASER? THEY ARE PLACED ON OPPOSING SIDES OF THE BELT TO AVOID SITUATIONS SUCH AS THIS.
@Tiray
“Are you in England?”
No, chap, I’m not in jolly old England, lol. Why do you ask?
I’m on the East Coast.
Other than being tasered probably wouldnt have killed him, how is that a better option?.. after he was already detained, handcuffed, and faced on his stomach.
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Did anybody ever tell you ur a genius
even i keep going back to “if it was a mistake” but if he is restrained then why do we keep giving him the benefit of the doubt
Sydney…It’s cause ,the only peeps i know say”arse” instead of ass are the Eng!
LOL! The East Coast ! GREAT!
@ Txhustla
I am sorry i had to jump out of here for a moment and do some work lol
yes it happened here and I see in your last post you had someone to confirm it. and they do it to more than just black people remember that little hispanic boy who got shot in the head from an off DUTY cop. and he was 15
My heart goes out to family and his young daughter. I currently live in the bay area in Oakland and some of the officers are full of it. The family has the best attorney in the bay area I can’t strss that enough he’s the best to take on these crooked cops I feel he’s the Johnnie Cochran for the bay area. Hope for justice for this family this is so very crazy. Peace and love again to the family.
Oh so I guess Oscar ACCIDENTLY died… gtfoh
What sentence should he get for not doing what the officers asked… oh that’s right… HE’S DEAD, nevermind.
Purp, you killin me over here.
I think SMDH, rides the retarded bus with kigali, and ARTOFWAR!
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lmao u aint neva lied, The desk dont even face the front board girl.
I think Kigali got her feeling hurt last night forreal though. She exposed herself something terrible by telling women to get 5 year birth control. I could have taken a belt to her hide yesterday you just dont know. I think she felt the brundt of it yesterday, matter fact im pretty sure she did.
LOL @ Tiray
You have a bloody good point there. . .
What happened to the black guy they lied and said killed himself when he got pulled over….
The police killed him, he’s gone, and so is the story… smh
Poor police officers, they have life sooo hard, lets pray for em’ yall…
let me stop, I crack myself up.
I feel you Redd and U know I respect ur mind.
I def think they should riot and there shoulda been a cop on a tree when that lil boy got shot in DC.
U know Im in bmore so don’t even ask me about similar situations because u know they occur…
This is sick. I can’t believe this happened..even after he told them he had a daughter and was lying on the ground posing no harm to others?? F*CKED UP.
Plus..he’s a pretty good-lookin dude..it’s a shame.
I cannot believe that you are saying this young man deserved to be shot. Excuse me….put himself in a posisiton to be shot. Regardless of whether he was fighting on the train or in the station that doesn not justify, even remotely justify him getting shot!!!
The yound man was unarmed and face down. So you are sitting here saying that because maybe he said fuck you to the police he deserved to be shot. The man was restrained with a knee on his head. That does not even warrant an officer drawing down on him.
We all need to be Shaking our Damn Heads at you miss lady! How can you fix your lips to say that. Clearly the kid had his hands up and was not posing a threat. Yet the officer drew down on him. The only way that kid could have put himself in a position to be shot was by reaching for something or actually having a weapon. There were to many officers around the kid for that one officer to pull and fire. If a threat was imminent then the majority if not all of the officers would have drawn their guns as well.
Don’t fall for all this media propaganda making it out like just because a black man gets into a scuffle or is detained by police he is putting himself into a position to be shot to DEATH!!! That is absolutely to most ignorant thing i have heard before.
think about this SMDH, what if your little brother or little cousin got into an argument and testosterone took over and it got a little heated and police needed to be called to calm the disturbance. No guns, just a lot of fussing, cussing and maybe a few punches thrown, yet the police were still called. Then in the process of being detained your little brother or cousin was shot dead!!!! I guess he put himself in a position to be shot DEAD right? BE FUCKIN FOR REAL!!!!
lmao u got me gone too Nina but Yall hold it down and help the cousins cause i gotta go gotta go…its bout to be freezing rain and i gots ta get right..might breeze through here lata
my preivious post was directed to SMDH not written by her. Sorry.
lmao u aint neva lied, The desk dont even face the front board girl.
I think Kigali got her feeling hurt last night forreal though. She exposed herself something terrible by telling women to get 5 year birth control. I could have taken a belt to her hide yesterday you just dont know. I think she felt the brundt of it yesterday, matter fact im pretty sure she did.
_____________________________________________________ Purple you said it I can’t stand Kigali she tries to justify her/his opinions by saying she is a balck woman blah blah blah.
oops meant black… but perhaps Kigali is the the mispelled word balck
Purpple..
lmao u aint neva lied, The desk dont even face the front board girl.
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rofl… they put their desks in the middle of the room, so they dont smear shit on the walls.
HF,
is a logical fallacy. Your implication being that since dude wasn’t a Berkeley student, he was automatically doing something wrong at 2 AM. That smack of elitism. I’m pretty good about giving the benefit of the doubt in these situations -and perhaps that’s not what u meant- but that’s how it came across.
To respond to your comment, I was simply stating that I would pretty much bet my salary that he was up to no good…would you put some money down that he wasn’t? Not just because he wasn’t attending Berkely…I was merely using that as an example which I will explain…when I firt read the story, It caught my attention…but after viewing the videos, if he was a person that wasn’t looking for trouble he would have conducted himself in a different manner. If it didnt concern him, he should have kept it moving, but obviously he had something to do with the situation due to him hanging around and continue to agitate the officers who were trying to get an already chaotic situation under control. Now had he been just passing through…and the officer shot him in the back…or he had been sitting on a bench near the altercation and the officer approached him, harrassed him and tussled with him than that would have been a problem, but I just dont think that was the case. Him being a father, he should have taken that into consideration before letting his actions take over. I think about my kids first and foremost that is why all nonsense had to come to an end for me. I don’t allow myself to get drunk or to be in a situation to where it is dangerous to my life or my livelihood. That is called being responsible. All men need to be responsible for their actions, choices and so forth. Every action will bring about a reaction and every choice has a consequence. This young man, unfortunately had to have these consequences happen, everything happens for a reason. The officer will face his consequences as well. What those consequences will be, who knows, but God will decide that mans fate and everyone elses.
I can’t tell sh*t from that video but the outcome is certainly tragic. However, can someone please explain to me why when some ish is going down do black men tend to gravitate to it rather than turn and walk away (knowing damn well he probably has an outstanding warrant!)? I saw this a lot while growing up in South L.A.
Attention Black men: you do not have any friends in law enforcement, so when you see the police….turn and walk away unless you are being addressed. You just might save yourself a whole lot of trouble.
Nina Knows
What happened to the black guy they lied and said killed himself when he got pulled over….
The police killed him, he’s gone, and so is the story… smh
Poor police officers, they have life sooo hard, lets pray for em’ yall…
let me stop, I crack myself up.
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I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING. NOW YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING PULLED OVER FOR A TRAFFIC STOP. I GOT PULLED OVER FOR SPEEDING AND HAD TO DIAL MY MOM , HAVE HER RECORD IT AND KEEP HER ON THE LINE BECAUSE I DIDN’T KNOW IF I WAS GONNA GET A TICKET OR A BULLET. WASN’T HE SCREAMING “PLEASE DON’T TASE ME” HMMMM I WONDER IF THE COP WAS BRAGGING PERHAPS SAYING “I SHOULD HAVE FUN WITH MY TASER TOY”
considering the oakland police department has a history of trigger happy cops who love to abuse their power, this comes as no surprise. when african americans migrated from the south to the bay area, the opd recruited hundreds of cops from the south to keep a.a’s in line. “The Riders” were notorious for their shady dealings in the nineties. one of the cops ( i think his name was Jones) would bust a dope dealer in the afternoon, pocket the money, and be trying to holler at his woman that night at the club. true story. same bullshit, different day. this officer will probably be cleared, and he’ll go on abusing his position.
Purp,
Aiight BFF.. be careful.
ttyl.
Slim
This is sick. I can’t believe this happened..even after he told them he had a daughter and was lying on the ground posing no harm to others?? F*CKED UP.
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Real.
And it’s my understanding that the murdering police officer has a newborn baby of his own.
I hope that murdering jackass thinks of Oscar Grant’s now fatherless child when he looks at his own.
Fucked up 4 real!
Lady Architect…
Girl I ALWAYS have my mama on speaker phone when I get pulled over. That was sooo sad, he was such a nice handsome young man, and they had the fucking nerve to say he shot himself once he got pulled over. I really have to research that story (it just happenend recently) and see whats happening with it.
SEPIA 830,
my point exactly!
Human beings are disgusting,this is horrible in so many ways,the police kill a young man,all the family wants is money and people are on here having conversations?
SOY SAUCE IS A FUCKING IDIOT!!!
she is beyond a damn idiot.
an idiot was about 5 dumb ass comments ago!!
LEE,
Yes Dear, this is a discussion forum, right?….and people are on here having conversations. hmmm?
lol@ DADDY & Saddened
Wow! What did SOY SAUCE post to piss so many people off?
There’s no such thing as a “victim” Ppl always get exactly what they had coming to them. Spare the “blame” game from all situations in life and you’ll learn to take full responsibility ovver thoughts as well as your actions.
My thoughts on this matter:
There can be no justification for using force on an unarmed, handcuffed, sudued, and (by all accounts I’ve read) complying man. Its murder, pure and simple. Black communities (read: urban areas, inner city, etc.) are policed in a different manner than anywhere else…..including trailer parks where crime is just as rampant. We are not served nor protected…we are targeted. The Black community is already in a police state. Think otherwise and your eyes are shut and your mind is closed.
With that said, this is where I get off the bandwagon. I have always been more concerned with our inner turmoil than what the white man thinks of us or does to us. I don’t think we should accept being mistreated (I know, understatement) by the police……of course not. The thing is, if you are going to riot, protest or simply just get pissed about this and incidents like it, but say nothing when countless number of Blacks are dying at the hands of their own, then you are missing the big picture. Do we need to stop senseless killings of Blacks by over aggressive policing. Sure. Is Black men mudering thier own a larger problem? Rhetorical question….you know the answer. I don’t expect THEM to value our lives……I DO expect us to. In Newark, NJ two young Brothas lost their lives since Jan. 1st…….no protests….no riots. Just grieving loved ones….watching the body count continue to rise. THAT is what pisses me off.
@ Tara
the question is not what did she post is what didn’t she post she just has a one sided view on things that’s all.
The video will prove that scene was very unruly and that they did what they had to do. Mark my words. These BART officers will walk free and this family will not get a dime. lol @ the family basically saying the son is worth 25 mill. Now thats comedy!
A life is priceless no matter how rotten or great the person becomes on earth. All you cynical people laughing at anothers persons misery. Prepare your kleenex for your turn.
exactly Special K!
@illuminate… wow, that was and amazing post. I guess I can leave on that note, aint shit else to say. I can name a few people who really need to read that shit!!
Special K,
I think everyone on here is one sided. Everyone can and will state their own views, and people have the right to disagree or agree, I am not sure if you have been reading the last couple of hours, but I have been called all kind of names, because I mainly stated my thoughts or opinions in the matter. Its sad that we, as a people can’t have a discussion without degrading one another and without disrespecting one another and we expect others (non-black)to respect and not degrade us. hmmm?
This is directed to the poster who refers to him/herself as god:
Who is miserable? Who is laughing? What turn are you speaking of?
@Ill
“The thing is, if you are going to riot, protest or simply just get pissed about this and incidents like it, but say nothing when countless number of Blacks are dying at the hands of their own, then you are missing the big picture.”
Powerful point, Ill, powerful point.
My heart goes out to his family and friends. Some on here have said that there was no reason to shoot this kid while others have said that he shouldn’t been up to no good, etc., etc.
I think that both points are valid. I know that not all officers are bad or crooked even though that there are some that are. But please remember that these man and women that have taken the job of protecting the public are often times put into situations like this that many of us would probably do the same thing or panic or whatever. Crime is crime and is often times a matter of life or death and you can’t expect every single officer on the force to be able to use the perfect judgement for each situation. It’s not possible. From one of the videos, the officer’s reaction appears to be one of shock that he did shoot the kid. Like he didn’t intend to. But we don’t know what was going through this guy’s mind at the time. Police officers have protocols they have to follow and sometimes they either can’t or fail to do so. I’m not making excuses for police officers because I have to be real about the demands of what they do and the situations they are put in. Should he have shot this kid? From the video footage I’ve seen, no. I’m sure that there are protocols that all of those officers probably should have followed to put the situation to their advantage. Cause looking at the video, I wouldn’t turn my back to any of those boys on the ground without them being cuffed for fear of them trying to snatch my gun or them having something hidden that I may have missed on my pat down.
Now, I do think that black men have the power to diffuse alot of what many perceive as police bias against us. 1. don’t put yourself in a situation where the police have to get involved. 2. if you do encounter a situation like this, be as cooperative with them as possible and don’t give them any reason to pull a gun, taser or whatever. If they tell you to sit down, then sit down. If you have not done anything wrong, why fight back? Always in these situations, the police has the power. They also have the power of life or death because they are the one’s holding the weapon. Folks have to start being smart about shit like this. You want to prove your manhood to a bunch of officers but trying to take them on and you don’t have a gun? Stupid. Me, I’ve been pulled over several times by both black and white officers and have experienced equal shit from both. I also realize to that when I am pulled over or pulled up to not make any sudden moves, reach in my pockets, etc. because police officers pretty much trained to defend themselves first and ask questions later. I’ve have some “sum-bitch” officers pull me up like they were looking for me to do something. All I did was cooperate, answer their questions and went about my business because you are in a situation where you don’t have any control or power but to cooperate and answer their questions. Puff your chest, get slammed. Reach in your coat or in this case resist, you could get shot. Yes there alot cops both black and white that have it in for brothas but there are also alot that don’t but you can’t put yourself in a situation where they have to decide whether it’s you or them because they will always choose them and leave your family with having to deal…
Why is that when people try to hold a black man accountable for his actions or disagree with comments that person has to be a “Uncle Tom”. Just an observation.
A couple days ago, a 22 year old black man who moved to TX after Hurricane Katrina came to visit his family out here in New Orleans,La. for the holidays was also gunned down by the police. He was shot twelve times in the back and four times in the front. His family said he never owned a gun, so they believe the police ended up planting guns on him to make it seem like they were defending themselves against this young man.He was a young black man, a family man, and a hardworker. What makes his story even sadder is that he has a newborn child. The police really abuse their power.
Everyone – SMDH is a troll. It’s a white man posing as a black woman. Stop responding to it.
And yes I will leave you all with a MLK quote, yes I will…..hahaahahahaha
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction … The chain reaction of evil hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation. We must meet the forces of hate with the power of love.” MLK (1963)
In New Orleans too,
That is very sad to hear. What is the city or the people doing about it?
sad
@SMDH or Vagina Sauce or whatever your name is
He was not struggling, he was not resisting arrest, I’m sure you have spent a lot of time on your back so answer me this…how do you resist arrest on your back?
You keep repeating time and time again the same redundant empty questions.
Yes it was 2am…it was also New Years Day, most civilised people are seeing in the new year at a party with friends, THAT IS NOT A CRIME. Only a house coon like would argue all black people should keep their ass in the house….last time I checked our asses were freed on January 22nd 1862 and I intend on staying that way.
Your second moronic question was, why did no one else get shot? If you watch the video carefully (which you did not do since you first of all claimed the shooter was a black male, when he is in fact a WHITE (not ethnic) man with black hair…you douche bag)
Anyway…all the people were up against a wall and the police dragged him to the floor, (probably for a smart comment he made…but I know you and the white man get made when black people show any kind of intellect) the police officer claim he intended to teaze him, but somehow shot the man in the back. If the police have accepted fault why are you still defending????? What is your agenda???
You ask why was no one else shot???? Answer me this Einstein….NAME ONE WHITE MAN SHOT IN AMERICA FOR BEING INVOLVED IN A DRUNKEN FIGHT ON NEW YEARS EVE….NONE DUMB ASS!!!.
NO ONE ELSE WAS SHOT BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS BLACK!!!
This is not blaming whitey for anything, not for one second do I believe white ppl are all racist. My point arguing the only way black males can avoid being murdered by police is for them to be perfect is not good enough…white people are not perfect, they get drunk and get into fights too the difference is they are not shot for it…let the punishment fit the crime, God forbid somewhere down the line I have a son, who is shot for a traffic offence. I bet you would argue…why weren’t his paper in order!!!
They shot him in the back????
That sounds pretty suspicious right there…
@jk!
I’ll answer that one for you!
If you were born in the 50.s, you didn’t think that a black man could be anymore than a maid or cotten picker.
If you were born the 60’s~ You saw violence against your people DAILY, with no hope of EQUALITY WHAT SO EVER! You were beatin daily,denyed,education,denyed ANY type of Anything THAT WOULD GARNER ANY TYPE OF WEALTH OR HEALTH!
If you were born in the 80’s , you would/could not understand what King REALLY meant, no matter how militant you THINK you are!
So if you wre a 70/80’s baby, all you see were the fruits from the labor of blacks that were beaten, and you WON’T understand why you would be considered an UNCLE TOM ,for contesting negative thoughts about the black man!!
BUT WHAT I STILL DON’T GET, IS THIS BLACKMAN AGAINST BLACK WOMAN THING!(especially when i see 1000’s of black’s that do well…..Daily!)
Something is wrong here!
Thrive to be the blackwoman/man that makes a diffrence in the black comm. NOT the one that insights!!
think
Hey Syd!!!
How’ve you been. If I haven’t had the chance to say it yet….Happy New Year (oh wait, have I gone over the acceptable time frame for that?)
Thanks Syd……I don’t know….you are good with stats. I wonder how many Brothas died at the hands of police compared to how many died at the hands of someone who is flesh of his flesh. Numbers don’t lie and those numbers will surely show us that instead of worrying about curing the common cold, maybe we should be finding a cure for cancer. Somebody posted earlier that we are brainwashed to accept this……actually for the most part we are not. Most get angry at such senseless aggression from the police. We riot, hold up our signs, sing spirtuals, hold protests, etc. We respond…for better or for worse. Black on Black violence is what we have been brainwashed to accept……and that is FAR more dangerous…..smh.
@ Redd
Peace Brah. I know MLK is your idol (not knocking it either)but this is what troubles me about his philosophy…..he was asking us to love our enemy instead of telling us to love ourselves first and foremost. Loving them is irrelevant if we don’t love ourselves, respect ourselves and have the common sense to defend ourselves. Powerful quote though.
Loops,
Black men do not have to be perfect to not be murdered by police, that is not the view of anyone in this discussion. I have sons and I teach them about accountability, responsibility and all the other itys out there. Your right there is a definite prejudice out there and if we know about it, I am sure this young man was aware of it, before he decided to go out and enjoy his new Years, whether that was fighting at the station or running off at the mouth to cops/officers etc. I am hoping that my sons are smart enough to conduct themselves a lil better so as not to end up as a statistic period whether that is dying by the hands of a cop or dying by the hands of another black man etc.
@Ill
Happy New Year to you, too, Ill!
“I wonder how many Brothas died at the hands of police compared to how many died at the hands of someone who is flesh of his flesh.”
I don’t have the numbers, but as you pointed out, it has to be a very high disparity — the recent article I read on homicides in D.C. alone — which are mostly black-on-black — is sombering, and it’s a pattern repeated across the nation.
“Somebody posted earlier that we are brainwashed to accept this……actually for the most part we are not. Most get angry at such senseless aggression from the police. We riot, hold up our signs, sing spirtuals, hold protests, etc. We respond…for better or for worse. Black on Black violence is what we have been brainwashed to accept……and that is FAR more dangerous…..smh.”
Brother, you hit on the head as usual. I can’t add on to this — It’s so true, it’s painful.
*hit it on the head*
@tara,
I am God that is my birth name. My father loved that name for some reason.
You asked questions: “Who is miserable? Who is laughing? What turn are you speaking of?”
Tara so many people in here and outside of here are miserable even God can’t name them all. Look at the writers like Suck Sauce, Nigali, and Bus Passenger. The names I named are just a few of the obviously miserable.
All you have to do is read this blog for a day or two and the UNHAPPY haters reveal themselves to us. Don’t get me wrong we all critize, but none of us can judge this until all of the facts come out and based on what I saw in the video a MAN WAS SHOT IN THE BACK IN COLD BLOOD. He had no time to react or defend himself against the bullet.
There are various posters in this thread who laughed at the idea of this man being shot in cold blood in the back, read up if you want to bore yourself half to death. Pay no attention to the ignorant attention whores I cussed for it is the only language the comprehend.
Those people who show no compassion are the individuals who will have their turn in the court of PUBLIC opinion 1st with tragedy and JUDGEMENT. I’m glad you asked because I was serious when I made those statements.
*they* comprehend.
@Ill
Well ask yourself did Black folks have a hard time loving themselves back then, as to opposed to now?
Look people stop being brainwashed!!! when white people kill, who do they murder????? other white people….why are we not discussing the epidemic of white on white crime??? Stop degrading yourself on the views of others.
Anyone who knows anything about sociology will know, their are higher levels of crime in areas of high poverty…where the majority of these “black on black@ murders take place…poor areas. That is no excuse, I hate this brothers running around killing each other for whatever reason they come up with, but it is nothing to do with them being black..a criminal is a criminal but when a white person commits a crime, they are just a bad person, but when a black person does the same thing, they automatically become representative of the whole black male community.
When white kids shot each other up at school, it was a tragedy…when black men shot someone you have Fox news and coons asking why black people are all so criminal….get a grib people
@Tara….Yes we are all aware of prejudices, just like slaves were aware that their master were all powerful. The whole point of freedom is that we should no longer except these prejudices, keep our mouths shut and say “yes sir boss”. subservience is also a crime. Yes unfortunately if this man had kept his mouth shut he would still be alive, but how long should we let this continue…until it is one of our children. The first step we can take is supporting each other and not every time we hear a black male was killed internalized the views of racists Americans who assume every black man is a criminal. None us us were on the train, it could have been on of the other three guys also being arrested who was directly involved in the fight.
I sure this boy was no angel but lets give him the same judgement we would a white guy and call this a tragedy!!
come on bossip lets not sland the news in one direction. what about the low life that kill his own son over child support, and the gena 6 thug that needed more attention by putting a hole in his chest. we have so bad people out here not just cops. tell the whole store
1) it’s still open season on us
2) i don’t know who Soy Sauce is, but hopefully the police get him next
Truth needs to get a grip! You are so caught up in talking “SH!T” about Bossip you can’t even see something for what it is…the TRUTH. That’s raw video, it’s not a movie. I see you always on here reading what they have to say…get a handle on yourself. This isn’t even about an interracial couple. And a little piece of advice: “Stay seated behind YOUR computer and keep reading what they have to say.” HOLLA!
Some of these people in here let their hatred over ride their common sense. You can’t justify an unarmed man being shot in the back. Those bloggers are full of hate and come on here to vent, and piss people off.
Okay God,
I can only respect you for your response…Thank you for taking the time to respond and I particularly liked the manner in which you responded
He got what he deserved being dressed like that! Looks like fighting gear to me!
damn
where’s Obama’s outrage? that police is gonna get it, that city gonna being paying out
@yoga!
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lol
@SMDH or Vagina Sauce or whatever your name is
He was not struggling, he was not resisting arrest, I’m sure you have spent a lot of time on your back so answer me this…how do you resist arrest on your back?
You keep repeating time and time again the same redundant empty questions.
Yes it was 2am…it was also New Years Day, most civilised people are seeing in the new year at a party with friends, THAT IS NOT A CRIME. Only a house coon like would argue all black people should keep their ass in the house….last time I checked our asses were freed on January 22nd 1862 and I intend on staying that way.
Your second moronic question was, why did no one else get shot? If you watch the video carefully (which you did not do since you first of all claimed the shooter was a black male, when he is in fact a WHITE (not ethnic) man with black hair…you douche bag)
Anyway…all the people were up against a wall and the police dragged him to the floor, (probably for a smart comment he made…but I know you and the white man get made when black people show any kind of intellect) the police officer claim he intended to teaze him, but somehow shot the man in the back. If the police have accepted fault why are you still defending????? What is your agenda???
You ask why was no one else shot???? Answer me this Einstein….NAME ONE WHITE MAN SHOT IN AMERICA FOR BEING INVOLVED IN A DRUNKEN FIGHT ON NEW YEARS EVE….NONE DUMB ASS!!!.
NO ONE ELSE WAS SHOT BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS BLACK!!!
This is not blaming whitey for anything, not for one second do I believe white ppl are all racist. My point arguing the only way black males can avoid being murdered by police is for them to be perfect is not good enough…white people are not perfect, they get drunk and get into fights too the difference is they are not shot for it…let the punishment fit the crime, God forbid somewhere down the line I have a son, who is shot for a traffic offence. I bet you would argue…why weren’t his paper in order!!!
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THANK YOU LOOP. IT’S APPARENT TRUTH. I WATCHED ALL VIDEOS FROM EVERY ANGLE AND THAT WAS CLEARLY AGAINST POLICE PROTOCOL, AND IF THESE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK SO IGNORANTLY KNEW ANYTHING, THEY’D KNOW THAT AN OFFICER IS NOT ALLOWED EVER, IN ANY SITUATION TO FIRE HIS GUN UNLESS THEIR LIFE IS IN DANGER (AS IN THE PERSON IS ARMED AND MOVING TOWARDS THEM WITH THE INTENTION TO KILL). EVEN IF SOMEONE IS ON THE RUN, POLICE CAN NOT SHOOT UNLESS THE SUSPECT SHOOTS FIRST. THIS YOUNG MAN CLEARLY WASN’T EVEN CLOSE TO EITHER SITUATION. THIS IS NO THEORY, THIS IS TRANSPARENT EVIDENCE. THIS OFFICER DID THIS BECAUSE HE WANTED TO, AND HE TOOK ADVANTAGE, WHILE THE CROWD WAS RILED UP, YET AT A SAFE DISTANCE. I SAW THE MAN SURRENDER JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAW IT. WHATEVER HE MAY HAVE SAID, WHICH WE DONT EVEN KNOW IF HE SAID ANYTHING, WHAT THE COP DID WAS ILLEGAL, EVEN ACCORDING TO THEY’RE OWN RULE BOOK. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED AT ALL TO DRAW HIS GUN AND THAT’S WHAT MAKES HIM GUILTY. KNOW THE LAW. THE GRANT FAMILY WILL GET THAT MONEY AND THAT COP WILL NEVER BE EMPLOYED AGAIN.
MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THEM…
I agree w/ Yoga LOL! He did not appear to be coming from a New Year’s Eve event, he looked like a bum….he fit the description and the stereotype of a trouble maker. He could have been hiding a bazooka in them jeans! Im surprised the bullet was able to penetrate his baggy as clothes! He appeared to be approaching the officers that were already on the scene trying to arrest the 3 other guys. He walked over there and they let him have it.
Uncle Tom
This happened in my hometown. Thousands of casually dressed citizens were attending the festivities in the city that night. While being held other passengers called for his release.
@ SMDH
The words stupid, bitch, self-hating, brainwashed, insensitive, dillusional, irrational, arrogant, mis-informed, bitter, evil, disqusting, un-worthy, selfish, trashy, ignorant don’t even begin to describe the venom of your comments. The future you predict for the black male is the same one your stupid ass will rot in. You are not safe from the same shit happening to you.
Only thing i have to say is that the parents couldn’t have waited for justice before filing a lawsuit i would want blood before money for my son’s life
@ blaq…dont forget about heartless..ppl have been saying that smdh is a white person pretending to be black…im starting to think the same way.. no respectable person(blk or white)should bask in the slaying of a man….my condolences goes out 2 all hurt by this shit…but im from The N.O… i cant think of a worse trio of police forces than the N.Y.P.D..N.O.P.D..L.A.P.D.
Look people if the police tell you to leave, then fucking leave. This whole mess could have been avoided. No but people want to fight and act a damnn fool taunting police officers and resisting arrest. What did you think was going to happen. Its all fun and games until somebody gets a .40cal round put in that ass. I hope the Officers are Ok for having to deal with these shit bags
this is so sad. i am from the bay and have been following this story by watching the news every morning and evening. the rent-a-cop that did this wasn’t even an oakland police officer. he is a public transportation security guard that is allowed to carry a gun. let him bring his a$$ to E.14th or MacArthur Blvd and see how he handles the streets instead f some unruly foolery on a train. Punk A$$ security guard.
Im back bitches and do I have a story to share. Any of the regulars here?
@ dark and lovely – so he was a rent a cop? smh
dr. king rolling over in his grave…this is not what he sacrificed his life 4.
I think this is FUCKED UP PLS MY FELLOW AMERICANS STAND UP TO THIS I watched the video cant believe what i saw if this is an example of what black americans experience i think its pretty deep. I FEEL For you guys dangerous environment to those that live their lives right WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
@dARK&lOVELY & fresh
BART Police are police officers with the same authority as an OPD officer. It was a police officer that shot the guy not a security guard.
You should know that dARK&lOVELY
@MissNee
Are you an astronaut?
not sure what this dude did.
nevertheless, NO UNARMED man should be SHOT and killed. they have tasers that they can use.
Some of the comments on here are ridiculous. First of all, i didn’t see a black officer shoot him, it was a white guy. there was a latino officer but i did not see any black officer. Second of all – THAT GUY WAS NOT RESISTING ARREST! And even if he was, does it give the cops the right to pull the trigger like that? They had atleast four cops there that could have restrained him no problem.
I don’t live in the U.S. But if I lived in the Bay Area, you could bet that I would be protesting outside of the police station until each of those police officers were charged and found guilty of murder. We cannot let these people take advantage of their power. How can you feel safe when the ones who are supposed to keep you safe are against you?
This is pure racism and it has gone too far…
Y’all need to fight back. I would cross the border for that ish…
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in tears, sick of this stupid shyt!!!!!!!!!! (punch’n the air str8t cuba gooding jr Boyz n the Hood Style)Tired of this shyt!!!!! fck ass cops
dr. king rolling over in his grave…this is not what he sacrificed his life 4.
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Cosign.
Sacrificed his life for our liberty, n this the shyt we still gotta deal wit? I cannot, deal wit seein ANY body black being killed like that I dont care who it is, it hurts like it was one of my own kin…sick of this shyt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<<head down like doughboy “either they dont know, dont show, or dont care about whats going on in the hood”<<<<poors out his 40(of welchs grape juice)..smh
@ SMDH aka SOY Sauce there is a procedure for police response, and a code of conduct the officer must follow, and there are provisions before you can initiate deadly force (INTENT, CAPABILITY, AND OPPORTUNITY)look these up I won’t explain it’s simple criteria to use “DEADLY FORCE” you must have all three… the altercation did not involve any of these criteria so the cop was wrong and the fact that you didn’t notice this and tried to justify the cops actions and blow off the racism shows your ignorance. YOU TRY TO SOUND WITTY BUT REALLY DON’T PULL IT OFF AT ALL…
1st of all soy sauce u can suk a dik until ur lips fall off. 2nd, if ur a cop in these bigger cities u are corrupt(blk and wht) 3rd, the best thing any of u can do is stop supporting bullshit sites like this and go get some substance in ur lives….and yeah im on here too just to see how stupid these comments are and to see how many people really think there is justification in killing people….yall are still 10 years behind but heres a hint: if u like killing people and getting away with it just join ur local police force!….fuckn scrub bitches!
I bet the cops were white …without even reading the article…….same shyte different whitey
i wont even comment….execute that cop!
Unfortunately, it seems that his death was accidental. The cop that shot him looked genuinely suprised that his gun went off and not his taser. His actions appeared to be like, WTF just happened, like it wasn’t supposed to happen. Honestly, I can’t understand how one would confuse a taser and a gun. Though, I don’t think it was necessary taser him anyway. The cops should have handcuffed him and let him be. The cops were using excessive force, this shouldn’t have happen no matter he said to the cops’ faces. He was not handcuffed when he was shot, people. He was probably handcuffed after he got shot, which is stupid cuz he was literally flopping around like a fish out of water after he got shot. His handcuffs were gone when he was cartered out on the stretcher. His death definitely deserves involuntary manslaughter. We don’t really know what transpired before he was down on his against the wall. His family described him as a peacemaker. He could have been trying to break up the fight and was just dragged out with the rest of them. This is truly a grave and unfortunate loss of life. May he rest in peace and condolences to the family.
lol @ 504 OKKK!
@ steele oh so u can do it but i cant
I just seen other cell phone footage… u can actually see the cop pull out the gun, aim , then fire IN OSCAR’S BACK…SMDH.
Well, I tell ya I’m not surprised to read this and after watching the news I didn’t see this on mainstream media!
AT POINT BLANK RANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My name is Randy Santos I am a close friend of OSCAR GRANT. We grew up in the same neighborhood, two houses down, his family and mine were close as with everyone in our neighborhood. Knowing Oscar, and talking with other friends who were with him at the time I know for a fact that everyone was cooperating before watching him get shot OSCAR tells the officer’s to not shoot him, he has a daughter. As more video surfaces and witnesses speak up we all are knowing more of how unnecessary it was to murder my friend. Today I decided to stop following the news it finally hit me that I’m watching my friend get killed over and over again. I came onto this forum through the game’s website looking to send his camp an email to help expose this situation to the world.
This is a prime example of why I have a concealed weapons permit. I often carry a Gloc 40 openly on my waist and a Darringer tucked away in my snake skin boots!
Man i never post on this site but this kid getting killed just does it to me. Black folk get up and get to moving! Care about these things! Protest! Write into the newspapers! Write in online! Don’t just continue to take this ish! If we overturned slavery against an entire institution against us we can surely end this kind of injustice against us today!!!!
This is horrible. I am from Oakland and i tell you that this is not the first Oakland Police shot someone .. “by accident”. The police are trying to say that they thought that they were holding the the other gun to shock him. They played the video today on the news and dude was on the ground when he got shot. It looks like the police had thier foot on him holding him down, then shot him. This is some BS for real!! I am raising my child to never be scared of the police, that they will help you when you are scared and they are here to protect to us. Then they do some ish like this. This hurts the Bayz heart! My prayers go out to the family! Truly!!
WOW!!
All of a sudden everyone from Oakland is posting on Bossip!! Bwahaha
Is this a hate crime or supposedly, only an accident due to the negligent discharge of a weapon? Does it matter? A young man’s life has expired while being apprehended under law enforcers. I can’t fathom any explanation that can justify this savagery act committed by the transit police. Even if this young man was unruly (I’m dubious), it’s very clear that this was conscious, authoritative abuse, resulting in ‘more’ odious, violent acts.
On another note, the number of deaths in our community has increased in intensity specifically in certain metropolises. What can ‘we’ do (awareness campaigns/programs) as a community (your locality) to reverse this epidemic/ endemic of self-bloodshed? We can dispute vehemently for several hours, but until we present antidotes, we are still affected directly/indirectly by crime, nothing changes, and more of our people pass away.
BLAQ
Hey, I came on here wanting to see more of your thoughts. Hopefully, all is well with you.