Wednesday, October 24th, 2007
Quote of the Day: Stop Snitchin’
Posted by Bossip Staff
David Banner (who is not afraid to speak his mind) had something to say about T.I. and his bodyguard snitchin’ situation:
“Tip was feeding this man’s family. We don’t do it like that, dog. We don’t talk to them boys. However it went down, we sit down [and do the jail time,] where I’m from. Dude, you don’t tell it. You hope the people you holding down is man enough to hold your people down. [The bodyguard] wasn’t a convicted felon, my dude. He could have held [Tip] down. We gotta start making the environment in our neighborhoods not conducive to snitching. How I’m doing this song, I’mma make it uncomfortable for snitches.”
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Brilliant David. That’s right lying is good. Tell that to the father on judgement day.
*takes a bow*
First!
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I want to know what got TI so shook that he felt like he needed all that arsenal in the first place.
How about not making our neighborhoods not conducive to crime? Mr. “Who are you leading?” who the hell are you leading?
way to keeps the guns off the street Banner…
ummm david why not work to make the environment free of violence? ignorance is bliss i guess. i wish he would sit his stupid ass down
oops meant take out the first “not”
So now i guess we are teaching our children to go to jail for others….this is sad. Maybe TI should take some responsibility here. What is this world coming too??? And I do not know anyone who really wants to keep it “real” and go to jail for someone else. And Im sure the bodyguard has a family too.
I don’t understand why Banner is mad at the bodyguard for snitching, but doesn’t he say something about T.I. being a dumbass for trying to buy illegal weapons as a 2-strike felon? Guns are killing our people, yet your gonna criticize a guy for snitchin’, yet not the one who was buying the guns. What’s gonna hurt our communities more: snitching or guns? This stop snitching crap is gettin’ stupid.
i refuse to accpet anything coming from a man best known for wanting women to get their pussies wet!wtf? thinking he can turn around and get intellectual on my azz. NO! David Banner and his stupid ‘hood’ philosophies need to stay in the damn hood. i hate the fact that such an ignorant roach gets the chance tp spread ignorance amongst the black community (many of who will agree with this ghetto mentality). Informing the police is part of our civic duty in order to ensure the safety of ALL OF US. quit wid that NWA mentality. if his family got shot down tomorrow (God forbid)and I was the only witness, i know that David would be on the phone begging me to ’snitch’. THINK PEOPLE
all my love as always(but not to you David)
Mary Jane Elizabeth Shardice Blige
The stop snitching mentality causes more criminals to walk the strets, and more black people become vicitms of crimes because of it.
Tell that man to shut up.
That is phenomenally ignorant!
“Snitching” probably saved some lives in this case. Maybe even one of TI’s kids. No telling what could have happened.
I’m not doing time for anybody else’s crime. That’s not honorable, that’s stupid. I work for a Fortune 500 company. If some Enron type shit went down, should I take the fall because the company is “feeding my family”??
Negro please. TI dug a hole for himself. Not using wisdom. That’s what Banner should be mad at: public over the top head shaking stupidity.
I agree with making “our” neighborhoods none condusive to crime. BUT on the other hand, my mother alwayz taught me to stay away from crime, but if your gonna do the crime, you HAVE to do the time. That dude is a SNITCH!!! HE was a grown man, that made the wrong decisions for himself and got caught and thought he could make it better by snitching on his boss!!! What a FUCK UP that dude is? Are you fuckin’ kidding me? I grew up in all WHITE neighborhoods and even there that shit is NOT OKAY!!!
FUCK A SNITCH, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS and leave the rest up to GOD. No one get’s away forever,GOD won’t allow it. But it’s wrong to pull someone down just because you jumped into a sinking ship in the first place ya dig? You just gotta chalk it up and charge it to the game.
@ Mary J
I completely agree- if you were the only witness to a crime committed against one of his loved ones, he would probably threaten your life if you DIDN’T snitch? Where does it end??
What kind of idiot would spend years in jail for someone else’s stupid mistake? Not willingly! This “don’t snitch” foolishness is some of the dumbest sh*t in captivity!
Don’t be a f*cking criminal and get yourself caught up in some stupid sh*t in the first damn place!
We need to get the good people out of the hood and replace them with the likes of TI and David Banner. Let them destroy each other and leave the good black folks out of it!
What a JACK AZZ!!! The stop snitching message comes from and is carried out by some messed up in the head FOOLS.
The ATF are vigilantes in what they do.
The “F” especially.
OK it’s official, David Banner is a Idiot.
What…..um yeah I love Bill Cosby.
ignorant is right. he is totally misguided. snitching is not the problem. crime is.he should speak out against silliness like a convicted felon attempting to buy firearms instead of a man who would rather turn in the dumb felon than go to jail himself just for the sake of being real and getting a mention in album credits for his troubles. such foolishness…
and that is this ridiculous mentality is the reason so many murders go unsolved and innocent lives unavenged. way to perpetuate this crap david dumbass
Oh F@ck That!!!
you are a perfect example as to why ignorant people like David Banner should get no shine. Now you blamin’ the bodyguard for dragging down TI? How about putting the blame on the one person who ACTUALLY PAID FOR the damn guns, hold up not guns, MACHINE GUNS! & another thing, what do you think TI was going to do with those guns anyway??? You think he was going Duck hunting ?? HELL NO!! If anything by “snitchin” on TI, the bodyguard probably saved someone’s ass, that’s for damn sure…
SMH while I feel sorry for what TI children are going through. he should have known better when are these damn fools going to get it. his 3 year old son is going to be traumatized for the rest of his life and if your so scared of being robbed ect. that’s what hired security is for no a convicted felon trying to buy an arsenal of high powered rifles, then the other children went off to acting school. here’s a novel idea how about having a tutor teach your children to speak other languages instill in them to be chemist, biologist, doctors, scientist, teachers and people of the like that truly contribute to society. why must be want another actor, rapper or celebrity in the family. out of the 35 family member who showed up for his dumb ass I wonder how many were lawyers, doctors or even a bus driver? these men fail to understand you can’t blame yt for the fuckery you do. being a convicted felon is a choice not the man out to get your silly ass. keep out of trouble, raise your children right, quit having a harem of babies mamma’s invest your money in stocks, bonds, and new technology designed to improve the environment instead of fly whips, fly cribs and big ass slave chains. how about opening boy’s and girls clubs in your communities, schools, supermarkets and no profit organizations benefiting the communities. this fool has so many cars that cost an arm and leg. he lives in Atlanta how about saving Grady Hospital that poor people in Atlanta depend on for their medical care? in Atlanta if your ass don’t have health insurance you will not be seen no matter what your condition. I don’t feel sorry for him he knew better but like he said in one of his song he don’t care about the feds investigating him. I can’t help but hear in my head the David Chappell skit “when keeping it real, goes wrong”.
You guys are taking this stop snitching stuff in the wrong way. First off no one in their right mind is going to let a serial killer live next door to them. Thats plain retarded. But at the same time The “Stop snitchin campaign” Is applied only to those who get caught up in their own situations. For instance If my brother gets caught robbing a liquior store, and i was the driver but he gets caught, thats him. Police do not know that i had anything to do with it. But if he says ” J.Logan was the driver” then thats snitchin point blank. Us as blacks coming out the hood or poverty do not condone that. Now the unsolved murder situations is only a symbol of people not being snithes. Its like this you cant afford to snitch on someone who killed somebody, or you are about to get killed. Thats why people dont snitch. You guys think that us saying “stop snithcing” raises up the bar for violence. IT DOESNT. Its just a national code for “Mind your own business” and “If you get caught in your actions do not tell on everyone around you”
David Banner should be SHOT–and nobody better SNITCH!!!!
I do not agree with this dick head Im so tired of people defending people just because there black.T.I should not have been in a situation that he could get snitched on.He has all the money he needs to take care of his family.David you really need invest in some kind of therapy you always sound like you on some bad medication.
David Banner I thought you were a educated man. Your talking real stupid, it’s time for all of you to grow up and realize that no one should be in a position to go to jail. Like Chris Rock said,”Dude your not suppose to go to Jail!”
David Banner is real backwards! The bodyguards job is to protect not to go to jail 4 T.I!!! Why should that bodyguard lose his freedom and get a record for someone who can hire and fire him the next day?? TAKE NO FALL FOR NO MAN!!!
Ttime
David Banner should be SHOT–and nobody better SNITCH!!!!
Great point!!!
I guess I shoulda expected them to support this ignorance and stupidity. I guess rappin is just another hustle to some of these dudes.
If you get the opportunity in life to change for the better not in just your zip code or the car you drive, you need to use your brains. If you break the law, the law is more than willing to get you because you seem to be on the rise to living a better life, but you can’t do that behind bars. Think of your kids & the kids that know who you are. Wake up my brothers, wake up. Don’t break the law & stay out of jail. You know they would love to put you behind bars. Instead of weapons buy books and/or pay tuition for some unfortunate kids that use to be you.
The sad thing is the media will pick up on what Banner said and make it out that all black people feel that way. When are we going to stop hiding behind this victim mentality and take responsibility for ourselves???!!! What on earth are you going to do with a bunch of machine guns??? And Banner had the nerve to say he’s a victim? Negro please. You are sitting on a pile of money. You’re famous. You’re not a victim anymore!
@ J. Logan:
We understand what the REAL definition of snitching is….but these ignorant MFers who are promoting the “No Snitching” code DO NOT know what it means and they are discouraging honest, law-abiding citizens from promoting crime in their neighborhoods under the threat of retaliation.
You are preaching to the choir. We all know the real definition of a snitch. The problem is that the “hoodrats” are promoting something that they cannot even define. Criminals don’t want law-abiding criminals to report the crime that is plaguing the inner cities.
Would David Banner say that of Clifford took one of those weapons to shoot his family?
That’s not the point, and neither is his bodyguard snitching, the point is, the bodyguard would not have snitched if Clifford thought twice about purchasing those weapons.
Stop holding black men and women in the wrong, David.
You know better.
Another dumb ass rapper willin to get another dumb ass rapper already on parole for his dumb ass behavior, out of trouble. I say snitch on real black people. We have allowed these criminal minded fools to much leeway in our communities and look what it has done. Snitchin was the only way to break the mafia’s back when it was terrifying the streets and shooting up everybody that didn’t obey their criminal ways. The government put the dons away because people spoke up and now we have the chance to do the same. Of course this fool doesn’t like it and what in hell was Ti gonna do with all them guns anyway. You just know somebody, probably a lot of somebodies, was gonna get killed over some stupid shit, like stepping on Ti foot at the clubs. Like they say, evil prevails when good people do nothing.
Look T.I. bought the guns which was a big mistake. But damn His bodyguard not only got caught but set him up. And then told him exactly where the guns were? What type of stuff is that? His bodyguard is the one who got busted, so that gives him the right to try and bring the next man to jail? wtf?!! Even in our neighboorhoods we cant stop crime even if we told or not because what if the person you snithched n gets locked up but then the person he killed retaliates against him and his family? either way it go, we have no control over violence and we try to stay far from it. Thats why we do not snitch.
I am very happy to see that most here realize that Banner is wrong for this statement.
That cat is str8 up stupid. TI rap sheet is as long as his record sales. He was supposed to know better. Don’t blame the effect, deal with the cause.
“Stop Snitchin”, that’s some bullsh*t! Banner, why don’t your soft ‘bama azz do half of TI’s time.
David Banner should be ASHAMED of himself!!! He doesn’t even have the whack ass excuse of not being educated. HE KNOWS BETTER THAN THIS MESS! If it wasn’t T.I. and it was some random man we didn’t know buying a whole damn arsenal who lived near where we live, where our children played, and where our mothers walk would it still be STOP SNITCHING?! That’s a damn shame that some folks think letting criminals get away with this bulls#$# is the right thing to do. If a man is “slangin’” on my corner where my kids play, I could give a damn what color he is, I want his triflin’ a$$ in jail! WAKE THE %$^# UP BLACK PEOPLE!!!
You make a valid point Ttime. You are absolutely right
@Tara
It’s not about going about going to jail for others it’s about if your involved in something illegal you should know the consequences and when and if you get caught be ready to do your own time and not pass it on to others.
@ COOp
Thats what im trying to say. You make a valid point as well
*SMDH* “N*ggas” can’t STAND to see progress at all. Stupid son of a b*tch. RIP Angela Dawson and family! That’s what the “stop snitching” movement did.
I have his song B.A.N (bitch a$$ n*gga) on my page. Straight f*ckery.
This is for J.Logan. about the comment for T.I. he bought some Silencers T.I. and one of you children or your homies was at a club. T.I got in a fight and pulled out his gun, meaning to shot the other man but shot your hommy instead now your hommy is dead and his children or wife (family) is left w/out someone they care becuase they were at the wrong place at the wrong time. So please think about what you say before you say it. You can make different seniors on defending the stupid shit stupid people do. If it’s wrong, It’s wrong.
It’s very sad that people don’t understand how SNITCHING has created the world that we live in. And that’s not a good thing
STOP SNITCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Next time, before you put your 2cents in, go buy some lip chap for them crusty face flappers!! Damn…
And I thought this dude was intelligent. Oh well, I thought the same thing about TI. I have been wrong before.
David, sweetie, how about a message about not committing crimes? How ’bout that?
it’s amazing how there is no unity in the black community. we have been conditioned to snitch on ourselves while there is never a witness when some officer beat and kills a black man. WTF! white people are not sitting around saying, those officers were wrong. But why would they when all they have to do is to say he had priors or drugs on them and then ignorant ass blacks will just back off and walk away. idots
@Happy Nappy Head
You sound intelligent.
But……
@koon
And the blue wall of silence.
blacks are only concerned what master thinks of them. they will never prosper beyond that.
Hey if you choose to do a crime then you set yourself up for somebody “snitching” on you. This “honor among thieves” code is stupid. An individual decides to break the law (ie code) and then expects another individual to adhere to the law (ie code, “don’t snitch”). Foolishness.
You can tell a person is not intelligent just by their conversations. You know exactly who you are.
Get a clue, DUMB ASS
Ignorant!!!!
@ Tee
Thats not the situation though tee. You guys are bashing David banner for his “Stop snithchin comments” Im just stating why we do not snitch. Furthermore im also stating how T.I. had nothing to do with his bodyguard getting caught. But his bodyguard ratted him out. Now the situation you brought to my attention, if it happens, then thats a tough pill to swollow but how is banner wrong for explain his views on stop snitchin and why t.i. is in jail. What he said about t.i. is true. simply as that. You guys think hes wrong for stating the truth? T.I. wasnt in his right mind to be buying guns. But his bodyguard ratted him out and david elaborated on that. Dont bring the next man down. NOw what you are talking about with the homies and all that, i cant speak on that because thats not the sitaution thats at Hand.
Amen Dchick! How about making it uncomfortable for the idiots out here doing the stupid sh*t!
Listen Tee just because you was the sister or brother at home telling on your siblings for stickin their hand in the cookie jar doesnt mean that everyone else is going to do the same like you or condone. Snitching. Obviously david banner is not condoning it.
That singer from the song “SEX”, forgive me but I forgot her name. That young woman is DEAD. Her life is OVER because some bastard decided that was the day he’d murder her. Her mother is sobbing. Her loved ones are missing someone who will never come back. Is it still STOP SNITCHIN’ if it would have saved her life?! These sorry a$$ rappers who have money, nice neighborhoods for their children, and security gaurds to protect them are selling this nonsense to OUR BLACK CHILDREN who believe them!!! They are just as much at fault as the institutional racism that waits for young black men to F$^# UP! If you KNOW certain powers are waiting for you to fail…why, why, WHY do you make it so EASY for them to get you?????????
And this is from a person who used to respect T.I.
@J.Logan (Hold on)
You guys are taking this stop snitching stuff in the wrong way. First off no one in their right mind is going to let a serial killer live next door to them. Thats plain retarded. But at the same time The “Stop snitchin campaign” Is applied only to those who get caught up in their own situations. For instance If my brother gets caught robbing a liquior store, and i was the driver but he gets caught, thats him. Police do not know that i had anything to do with it. But if he says ” J.Logan was the driver” then that’s snitchin point blank. Us as blacks coming out the hood or poverty do not condone that. Now the unsolved murder situations is only a symbol of people not being snithes. Its like this you cant afford to snitch on someone who killed somebody, or you are about to get killed. That’s why people dont snitch. You guys think that us saying “stop snithcing” raises up the bar for violence. IT DOESNT. Its just a national code for “Mind your own business” and “If you get caught in your actions do not tell on everyone around you”
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Bravo
The problem is that the authorities don’t make many cases from normal witness so they need snitches AKA RATS. And to fight the “Stop Snitching Movement” they used propaganda to make it seem like was about someone Grandma looking out the window witnessing a crime. On the “Stop Snitching” video they only talk about people that rat on others in order to get less time for the crimes they have committed.
@MRSTHREATT
Like the RATS
if we spent as much time learning about the stock market, real estate, etc., we would be far better off than worrying about dissecting a fucking rap song. Who do you think puts out these storie anyway? dummies
J.Logan SMH Tee
@ Tee
Thats not the situation though tee. You guys are bashing David banner for his “Stop snithchin comments” Im just stating why we do not snitch. Furthermore im also stating how T.I. had nothing to do with his bodyguard getting caught.
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TI had everything to do with it. The guy was buying the guns for him.
*cosign Tee*
Coop I would be flattered that you think anything of me if I gave a damn. But I don’t. Just looking at your comments tells me that approval from you would mean that I HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG. So you can feel free to keep it.
All of you who say “Stop Snitching” need to have something violent happen to you and WATCH that song and dance change. Only lemmings think in the manner in which you “T.I. apologists” do.
Go to Angela Dawson’s family and TELL THEM TO THEIR FACE stop snitching. Do you have the gall?
DAVID BANNER YOUR AN IDIOT…
T.I’S EGO GOT HIM IN THIS YOU SHOULD TAKE HEED AND LEARN FROM HIS DUMB ASS…DUMB ASS !!!
I’m just saying, if that bodygaurd has a family why should he deprive his family to benefit T.I.’s? And I put money on it that all these mumf&%&&^as talkin’ ’bout STOP SNITCHIN’ ain’t going to jail for NOBODY else! Y’all just like those rich, body gaurded up rappers selling PURE BULLS^%$. Y’all talk all this mess about STOP SNITCHING and ain’t NANAY’ALL really about that stupidity. PURE COONERY. You might as well be a minstrel shuckin’ and jiving because that’s about as genuine as y’all STOP SNITCHIN’ cats are. PEOPLE ARE DYING! OUR PEOPLE ARE DYING! OUR MEN ARE DYING! OUR CHILDREN ARE DYING! AND ALL YOU GOT TO SAY IS “STOP SNITCHIN”?!!! I’m through…y’all done ran my blood pressure up with this nonsense. I got a new campaign for the “hood”…
STOP KILLING!!!!
How ’bout that! Y’all have a blessed day my beautiful black people!
@Tee
Don’t be so preconditioned. A rat is a rat. That bodyguard knew what he was doing was wrong he snitched to cut his time not save someones wife, child or anything else. Snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
@loverofall
He knew he had a family before he agreed to do it and who was helping him feed that family
STOP SNITCHING
STOP RATTING
Half of the people defending T.I. and going against his bodyguard are the same people who would do the same thing if they were in his shoes.
This topic is old and done. No matter how hard you all try to defend him, it doesn’t matter. He was WRONG period. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, can snitch on you if you have done nothing wrong. So he was wrong and so was the bodyguard so f*ck ‘em both.
how many people here are homeowners? Exactly, and you never will, because master will continue to get blacks riled up about some stupid issue that they put out there. we are so delusional about what our issues need to be. We don’t have a mind of our own. we will always be followers and never leaders b/c YT got this country on lock
J.Logan
Your argument is flawed with so many holes that it is, at best lauughable! 1st you use the example that if you are the driver in a getaway car & your brother who is robbin the store gets caught then its ok for you to get away because your brother should just shut up because you were not involved. HELLOOOO!!! if you are the getaway driver – aren’t you already involved?!?! But wait, in your view, as long as you didn’t get caught then you are not involved. & as far as your comment “You guys think that us saying “stop snithcing” raises up the bar for violence. IT DOESNT. Its just a national code for “Mind your own business” and “If you get caught in your actions do not tell on everyone around you”- If you really believe that, then debating against your ignorance is futile.
Coop
@Tee
Don’t be so preconditioned. A rat is a rat. That bodyguard knew what he was doing was wrong he snitched to cut his time not save someones wife, child or anything else. Snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
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Your logic is warped and inaccurate quite frankly. How can you say that “snitching” has made the world “worse?” Surely you jest. The CRIME RATE has gone up amongst young black men and therefore the “snitching” goes up. Haven’t you ever heard of CAUSE AND EFFECT???
How about making the environment not condusive to crime in the first damn place!!!!?!?!?!??!!? Why is that option not on table!?!?!?!??!!?!?
@Happy Nappy Head
How sad you and others are.
Do you not understand that the stop snitching is for people living that street life.
As I said before you sound intelligent.
But……sounds are like looks they can be deceiving.
“SUPPORT SNITCHING” IT’S a part of fighting crime, and it gets rid of the weak criminal minded, if you can’t keep it on the D.L you deserve to get caught,
RULE #1 TRUST NO ONE…
@ Koon… wtf are you talking about? This has nothing to do with officers beating and killing people… it’s about ignorant a** black folks doing ignorant sh*t
blacks minds are so messed up that nobody realized that what the bodyguard did was also illegal. buying guns for a felon. all blacks heard was a rapper was involved and since that is what has been in the news lately and we’ve been hypnotized to hate rappers all of sudden we have fallen right in line with what YT wants us to think. SMH it’s only a matter of time before we’re back in shackles.
at missdee: so why aren’t we just as concerned with the ignorant shit whites do as they seem to be with what we do. it seems that they only get involved to watch us bicker
p.s. and if you can’t see the correlation btwn stop snitching and officers then maybe you’re the ignorant one
@Happy Nappy Head
Your on the right path but going in the wrong direction. Do to snitching there is more violence before snitching got so big you had guys that would not allow kids to get guns. The detective that help create the show the wire even admitted in a interview how sending Melvin Williams to prison made thing worse on the streets. Which was done by SNITCHES.
So snitching is the cause and everything else is the ……..
KOON
You do make a valid point, the bodyguard should also do time cause what he did WAS illegal. BUT as far as being conditioned to hate rappers?? NOT…. I love my hip-hop & I support most of’em…. just not dumb ignorant fools like D Banner….
Thank you LOVEROFALL. It’s good to know that there are some people out there thinking what i am thinking.
We need more. And maybe just maybe we can make our neighbors safe and get our children to stop waiting and immitated these people that do stupid stuff. Why not let our kids immitate positive role models. That’s all I’m saying. Hell L.L Cool J, Kanye West. Common etc. That is what i call POSITIVE!
@Happy Nappy Head
Half of the people defending T.I. and going against his bodyguard are the same people who would do the same thing if they were in his shoes.
This topic is old and done. No matter how hard you all try to defend him, it doesn’t matter. He was WRONG period. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, can snitch on you if you have done nothing wrong. So he was wrong and so was the bodyguard so f*ck ‘em both.
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Wrong again you should read how drug conspiracies work.
**Sigh**
David Banner, please do us all a favor and STFU and STFD.. I am beyond tired of hearing this muthaf’ers bullshit. He is asshole backwards… He lives in a fuckin’ box and he’s got the mentality to prove it. These men truly don’t see the error of their ways. And if they think they can out smart the Feds by doing this shit.. Mutha please… If the Feds, want yo’ ass, they are gonna get you by any means necessary. Believe that. So keep walkin’ around here runnin’ yo’ mouth.. They just waitin’ for your stupid ass.
@Coop
TI knew HE had a family too before engaging in that coonery!
His ignorant azz comments shouldn’t even get any airtime! He is what’s wrong with the black community. Dumb azz
For a man who likes to tout his degrees, he isn’t making a lick of sense. What foolishness. Making the hip-hop community look even dumber.
Wyclef Jean took his praise even further last week, calling T.I. a “prophet” and comparing him to Malcolm X.
Wyclef please stick to Haitian causes because apparently American history is not your forte’. Dumbass.
Happy Nappy Head
I hear what you are saying but. I Feel like this. Rappers from the street rap about the street. But when you start making lots of money and you live in a mansion at what point do you stop rapping about the streets and start talking about something else. For instance what’s going on in the white. Iraaq, Dead beat daddy’s. Come on now.
LMAO! I just ought to cut and paste some of ya’lls comments when you were defending this goofball!
Mind you — I am not saying that I agree nor agree with what he is saying but he really needs to make up his mind. Humanitarians don’t follow no “street code” and some of yous was making him seem like the black Angelina Jolie.
Play your position… not all of ‘em
lmmfao
in hindsight…maybe Angie Ange wasn’t the best example.
hehehehe
@Happy Nappy Head
Your on the right path but going in the wrong direction. Do to snitching there is more violence before snitching got so big you had guys that would not allow kids to get guns. The detective that help create the show the wire even admitted in a interview how sending Melvin Williams to prison made thing worse on the streets. Which was done by SNITCHES.
So snitching is the cause and everything else is the ……..
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Okay that’s all I needed to read. That’s ENOUGH lol. I can’t even BEGIN to keep reading this because this is like me arguing with a 2 year old. It’s not going to work until they get their minds right and quite frankly it’s retarded.
Good day to you.
david banner is so ignorant and dumb that he actually went to congress to defend our constitutional rights for free speech. what an idiot. I mean I know that most of the people on here went to congress too to fight against racial profiling, for public schools in their city to provide books for all students, to stop redlining, for the victims of Katrina, to stop discrimination in the workplace, etc. SMH
p.s. racism doesn’t exist right? so, i guess there’s no need to
@Coop
I can’t BELIEVE your logic. LOL so the snitching makes the crime worse?????? Good God in His holy seat. This is the DUMBEST sh*t I have ever heard.
Oprah was in poverty she made it out. Me, you and everyone else can see she is giving back. David Banner is from the street and so is T.I don’t rap about sex,guns,hoes,bitches, and how much money you got. Tell other blacks that are still in poverty how to get what you got. Don’t teach my child or anyone else’s child how to have sex.ETC… They are no longer in the streets and if they are it a decision they choose to make. When they did live in the streets they were thinking of how to get out. SO GET THE HELL OUT. Stop making money off of peolpe who thinks this stuff is cool. They making money off you boo!!! and contataminating your mind!!
It’s so strange that this is the same dude that had a two page letter about how Oprah was sooo wrong b/c she doesn’t help enough black people and she doesn’t have any rappers on her show. WHY THE HELL WOULD SHE WHEN Y’ALL STUPID BLACK ASSES ACT LIKE THIS???? Oprah is about promoting something good. One minute you got these ghetto rappers talking about how everyone thinks they are bad and not giving them a fair chance but then they turn right around and do something bad. What the hell do you expect people to think you are? I’m convinced. 70% of black men in the industry are FUCKING IDIOTS. Stuff like this makes me want to give the po-pos your address so they can put your stupid ass in jail and keep our communities safe. This shit is messing up my Afrocentric wellness.
koon said:
“how many people here are homeowners? Exactly, and you never will, because master will continue to get blacks riled up about some stupid issue that they put out there. we are so delusional about what our issues need to be. We don’t have a mind of our own. we will always be followers and never leaders b/c YT got this country on lock”
Are you referring to this discussion on “snitching” as “stupid” and “delusional”? I hope not brother because I know many people who’ve lost loved ones to violence and drugs who think this issue is VERY REAL AND RELEVANT!
yall know what i kinda agree with him in this case because if somebody is payin yo bills and feeding yo kids……… man i dont know
at i stay smh: yes Angie was a good example for you b/c you are not conditioned to think of whites like that. see how easy it was to not judge her based on behavior like we do each other. keep shaking your head, it needs fixing
I hate this snitchin bullshit. The Black community can’t tell the police or authorities something that could be a threat to themselves or someone else without being called a snitch. wtf is wrong with Black people these days? we’re supposed to look out for one another…but instead we gotta ‘keep it G’ and not tell someone whats going on without being concerned about your own safety. TI dumb ass should’ve never ordered all those weapons..if he was in so much danger, go to the cops and let them know whats going on. Eh.
why are these the people that represent this generation?
it’s funny how people talking about ignorant david banner is w/o realizing their ignorance.
I’m joining the conversation late but so what. I would like to know why is it okay for David Banner to get mad at Oprah Winfrey & whoever else because he feels that they don’t do anything to change the situation on the streets as leaders. Its apparent that he’s not fit to be a leader if he feels that it is okay to go to jail for others. All these people keep talking about STOP SNITCHIN. David Banner should have been on hear saying DON’T ALLOW YOUR PARTNER IN CRIME TO GO TO JAIL BY HIMSELF. Or how about DON’T DO SHIT TO GET A RECORD IN THE 1ST PLACE & then you don’t have to worry about someone with no priors taking the fall for you. I’m not saying that snitching is okay, but if you know that your dumb ass already have priors then why do you continuoulsy do more dumb shit. That is whats wrong with the streets today. David Banner & TI’s families are set & will continue to be fed. This bodyguard’s familiy will be without a provider. To COOP, How did you just so happen to know that this bodyguard wanted to lessen his sentence just for himself. His children will be somemore statistics of black children whose fathers are not around so now they feel the need to sell drugs & do other things to help provide for their families. I’m not saying that the bodyguard was innocent but damn, he was doing a job for someone else. If you get in trouble at work for doing something that your boss told you to do, would you just take your pink slip and walk the fuck off? Hell naw. You gonna let the next person in charge know that your boss okayed it. You never know what’s going through someone’s mind unless your inside that person’s head. David Banner is all about rapping about how he “likes it when its funky” but can he like it when peoples children have the fathers in the household.
it isn’t funny. david banner is publicly encouraging lying. how can you condone this? TI is an adult, he is aware of the consequences for his actions. why should someone else jepordize thier freedom to protect that of someone who apparently doesn’t regard it?
@Miss K
They wouldn’t do that. It makes too much sense to do that. I don’t understand this mentality our men have about “being a Man”. It’s so sad but most of them don’t even know that it means to be a man yet they running around messing up stuff for everyone else to clean up like children do. WTF is wrong with us? WHERE ARE THE REAL MEN???? Not the boys, homies, or Gs with criminal records or doing something illegal. Where are my educated, strong, powerful, God fearing, caring, protective black men at???? I want y’all to stand up and show these boys what it takes to be a real man.
@Koon
I marched on Washington to support Affirmative Action because I was going to my classes at UofM getting called a nigger so PLEASE don’t even take it there! Racism is alive and well. And I don’t believe anybody on here is trying to even suggest it isn’t. But as I said before, if you know people (Hip Hop police) are waiting for you to fail, why would you hand feed them an opportunity to take you down? THAT’S STUPID! I’m not trying to get at you but you’re a young black man and I don’t have to know you to love you as my brother. Can’t you see how feeding into this “Stop Snitching” code is KILLING US. Even if “the white man” (and I hate using that terminology) buys a cargo load of guns to sell in “the hood” he ain’t got the POWER to place it your and tell you to SHOOT IT AT YOUR BROTHER! Brother please wake up because I’d hate to see someone standing over YOUR casket wishing someone had SNITCHED…
I usually dont comment on these but…damn. Stop snitching? Is this what the world has come to? The problem is the ridiculous mentality that (some) black folks have. Everyone thinks that it is about them. There is something bigger than you…The efficiency of the environment. We dont act as a collective unit. Regardless of if his body guard snitched or not, if TI did it, he deserves to go down. David Banner and the rest of the jack asses that side with criminal activity do a dis-service to our community. 50 cent, RZA and the rest of them should be ashamed of themselves. RZA seems like he blames the damned “hip-hop” police. Granted, the profiling of indiviudals is wrong. But if they would stop entertaining and participating in criminal acts, maybe there would not be a problem.
@jemanniecrickets
The more important question is why should Oprah waste money on trying to save the black community when people like David Banner are tearing it apart? What he is doing is adding to the lies and distrust. He should be ashamed of himself. She can’t help us fast enough before someone like him comes through and destroys all that has been built.
“being a MAN” is:
-not making babies that you won’t provide a strong family foundation for.
-not selling drugs [or encouraging drug sales]to your own community
-not feeling as though you have the right to put your hands on another human being because you cannot verbally express yourself.
-not disrespecting and exploiting women [even if some women allow it]
-seeking higher education
the list can go on and on.
SMH@Oh F@ck That…Jesus seriously needs to take your wheel, ya dig? David Banner AND TI need to pick up Bill Cosby’s book. These dudes float around in Hypocritical Land like ignorance really is bliss. Let me see David…so you want Bush to send some help to Mississippi? Okay…what if he does (laughing at that “what if”)and you witness someone stealing some of the money? Would you snitch? Prolly not, huh? You’re basically saying screw everyone that the crime affects. Which just seems idiotic to me. This, code of the streets crap has no business in the mind of an intellectual. If you know better, it’s your responsibility to do better. I think the press should really limit the airplay some of these rappers get. The amount of influence they have over our culture, generation, community…is sickening. And Lord don’t get me start on Lil Kim’s Stop Snitching Campaign. I still can’t believe how much glory she got, “in the hood”, for breaking the law. My people, my people, we really need to get our priorities in order.
The body guard work for TI and owes him nothing but a days work for a day’s pay. If he is the man in his rap songs let him be the man in his own punishment. He is not above the law this should be a wake up for all America to see who they are worshipping and where their money is going.
@Happy Nappy Head
So your not smarter then a 2 year old.
I used to think that Banner was one of the more intelligent hip hop artists. He does fight for the injustice of blacks but this statement does not become of someone thats suppose to be an activists. This no snitchin rule is something that I don’t believe it…
I know that some people do not snitch b/c their lives and the lives of their families are threaten but when you having someone dealing drugs in your neighborhoods, robbing or killing people, we as a people need to step up and fight against it or the crime rates in our communities will continue to rise.
Yea, the rule means different things to “hood” people but the message that Banner is putting out is not giving a proper definition to it (if there is even one). People who believe that nonsense and think that its right…
@ joe
Please keep the list going. The more I come on this site the less hope I have in my black men. I need to focus my attention else where.
“Stuff like this makes me want to give the po-pos your address so they can put your stupid ass in jail and keep our communities safe. This shit is messing up my Afrocentric wellness.”
I sincerely THANK YOU because I laughed so hard I think my blood pressure came down! LMAOROTF
@AND
that’s all i can think of right now. i ended up marrying a hispanic man.
@Miss K
It’s not about witnesses.
A witness and a snitch are two different things.
AND…
@Miss K
They wouldn’t do that. It makes too much sense to do that. I don’t understand this mentality our men have about “being a Man”. It’s so sad but most of them don’t even know that it means to be a man yet they running around messing up stuff for everyone else to clean up like children do. WTF is wrong with us? WHERE ARE THE REAL MEN???? Not the boys, homies, or Gs with criminal records or doing something illegal. Where are my educated, strong, powerful, God fearing, caring, protective black men at???? I want y’all to stand up and show these boys what it takes to be a real man.
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I ask the same question…but I guess the good black men are few and far in between..
@ Joe
Amen…Brother!
joe said:
“being a MAN” is:
-not making babies that you won’t provide a strong family foundation for.
-not selling drugs [or encouraging drug sales]to your own community
-not feeling as though you have the right to put your hands on another human being because you cannot verbally express yourself.
-not disrespecting and exploiting women [even if some women allow it]
-seeking higher education
the list can go on and on.
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You better PREACH! That is a black MAN talking and you black BOYS better listen up! OOOOH I just love an intelligent black man!
@loverofall
People don’t realize that what’s best for the community is not always played out like some story book tale.
Damn! I thought JOE was a black man…disappointment ensues…its cool though. I still know some amazing black men!
And Joe this message is for the “brown” hermanos too! The Latinos and Blacks are in the same boat on a lot of things, so tell your Latino nephews about this nonsense too! LOL
oops. i’m a woman.
New Rule…
The only time I wanna see rappers talking into a mic, they need to be on stage with a DJ behind them.
@AB
unless they get some really good media coach. beyonce seems to have a great one.
@joe
I think I may end up with someone outside of my race as well.
I must say, out of the two serious relationships I’ve had both of them with black guys they were bad. They started out all fine and well but something is really (not trying to be funny or insult anyone) wrong with our people. Y’all, for real, what happened to us? We came from slaves. People who were beat everyday for no damn reason other than looking at a white man. We yearbed for knowledge not jewelry, crack, and rims. We were sold off because we wanted to learn, to vote, to do and be better. What happened??????
Now don’t get it twisted ya’ll! We can not allow some ignorant black men or their actions to cloud our judgement about black men. Amazing, intelligent, loving black men are NOT few and far between so please don’t let this convo go there. Everything I said was because I LOVE AND ADORE MY KINGS! Its just unfortunate that the media will undoubtedly try and make David Banner, 50 Cent, and T.I. representatives of our kings because they are NOT. I LOVE Y’ALL WITH ALL MY HEART BLACK MEN!
@ Joe
What about being and intelligent enough critical thinker that you know that snitching does not bring the best long term results.
Or being man enough that when you get into trouble for something that you knew was illegal you do your own time and handle the consequences as man a not by hand it off to others.
@loverofall
I hear ya but you sound like me. Another black woman trying not to give up hope. I want to hear from the men. Make a believer out of me b/c I feel like jumping ship right about now. You want us to love, support, honor and obey well, give me something to love, support, honor and obey b/c criminal records, kids out of wed-lock, stds, and illiteracy just will not cut it.
it true, we can’t allow one or two rotten apples spoil the lot. i’ve dated black men who were great, but we had some fundamental cultural differences. being caribbean, i found myself relating more to latino-americans. but we all have similar issues. latinos have the same problems, they’re just manifested differently.
Gansta Mentality, What a bunch of crap!!!
Don’t to the “crime” if you can’t do the time.
at loverofall: the fact that you can acknowledge that there is racism (briefly, I might add) and then turn around and then justify it is STUPID. It’s not the stop snitching in the black community that’s hurting us. It’s the code of silence in the white community that’s hurting us.
I meant “gangsta” or whatever
@AND…
As I said snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
@and…
Go ahead and jump:)
@ coop
i agree with you, 100%. i posted a comment earlier in the discussion that we cannot expect someone to sacrifice their freedom for someone who doesn’t regard their own.
as far as “snitching does not bring the best long term results”, i also agree. in most cases, authority figures will corner/blackmail/expolite information from a “lower level” criminal to catch “the big fish”.
in the end, it all comes down accountability. and it IS NOT a black problem, its an AMERICAN problem. when the preident of the united states lies and refuses to be accountable for his actions, it sets a tone for the nation.
TI [as well as everyone else] should be accountable for their actions. “don’t do the crime if you can’t pay the time”
@ loverofall
I think most of the single women on here would love nothing but to be with a Intelligent black King, but its not only the rappers. etc, its also the black man in the grocery store, or the ones we see everyday. I guess most of us have become jaded which is sad…
@ AND
I agree with you also. Most of the black men (I say most) are so cocerned about money and things that will lose their valus( this also includes college men)Education, good credit, home ownership, job security, stocks & bonds, are not what our people are worried about…I can’t tell you what happened but if something doesn’t change soon, I’m not sure what will become of our race.
AND…
Don’t give up girl!!! Don’t do it! I’m not saying don’t go outside of your race if you find someone who’s a better fit for you, as is the case with sister Joe. I’m just saying, I have a black father, boyfriend, and brother who are intelligent, God-fearing, respectful, loving men who treat the women in their lives like queens! I have black male friends like that as well. Once we as black women veer into the thinking that all our brothers are a certain way just because that’s all we’ve seen so far (and please believe I HAVE been there!) we sell them short causing them to sell us short and then its a wrap! We start sounding like those bum black men who want to characterize black women as “bitches” and “hos” and who think a non-black woman is some warped trophy of sorts. And we CAN NOT take it there. Keep the faith ma because those black “Kings” I’m referring to are very real
Um, brothers can I get some assistace here! LOL
DO ANY OF YALL MOTHERFUCKER GOT JOBS …AND WHY DA HELL R YALL WORRIED ABOUT TI …CAUSE BELIEVE ME HE DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YALL THAT IS WHAT HIS DUMB ASS GET FOR NOT FUCKING WITH GOONS HE ALWAYS SCREAMING WEST SIDE BANK HEAD BUT HE FUCK WITH BIG ARM DICK IN DA BOOTY ASS NIGGA …SO FUCK HIM, DAVID AND YALL!!!
@Coop
In response to:
As I said snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
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I don’t know if it is making this worse but if there was not so much crime then there would not be so many people snitching or not snitching for fear of losing their lives.
That is bout the DUMBEST thing I ever heard. As a grown man you should be accountable for your actions and be able to accept the blame or punishment when you make a bad decision. Entertainers & athtletes need to understand that when you are in the public eye the way they are they can’t do the same the thing John & Jane Doe do without it being maginified.
Yes they are humans and entitled to make mistakes but fame and notoriety cost, and that cost is your privacy and people trying to bring you down.
Black man here. In every race there are ignorant, foolish people like David Banner, T.I., and Coop. In the black community, we’re taught not to glorify the least well-off among us as the most authentically black. Therefore, “Keepin’ It Real” becomes engaging in self- and community-destructive behavior. We need to follow Joe’s advice and learn how to become real men and raise our black sons to believe that a real man, an authentically black man: supports his children, has safe sex with a limited number of people, avoids criminal activity, supports and encourages his family and community, and even in the face of adversity, NEVER GIVES UP.
We’re living in a very strange and sad time, when pop culture figures like David Banner, can openly promote chaos and anarchy on our streets by supporting this “Don’t Snitch” ridiculousness. But, we’ll bounce back. Hell, we survived being ripped from our homeland, that free vovage to America, slavery and Jim Crow. We’ll certainly survive the negative aspects of hip-hop culture and the self-defeating lunacy of the David Banner’s and T.I.’s out there trying to take us two steps back. Please believe.
Come on… now you expect someone doing dirt with you to be moral?
His bodyguard may have been an ass, but the ‘Stop Snitchin’ campaign does more harm to our community than good.
We got to do better.
koon said:
at loverofall: the fact that you can acknowledge that there is racism (briefly, I might add) and then turn around and then justify it is STUPID. It’s not the stop snitching in the black community that’s hurting us. It’s the code of silence in the white community that’s hurting us.
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I tried to go the intellectual route and use reasoning but clearly we’ll just have to agree to disagree because I see that you’re set in a certain way of thinking. (That’s not an insult by the way. I’m just sayin’.)
I just ask you, did “racism” drive TI to the store to pick up his illegally purchased guns? NOPE. Any intelligent person knows without a doubt that racism exists and rears its foul head all the time. I’m just saying why offer these people who want to see you knocked down and behind bars as a black man, a golden opportunity to get to you? Surely, you can see the logic behind that! Maybe it was a “set-up” by the Hip Hop police, I don’t know and you don’t know. What I do know is T.I. knew what he was doing was wrong and put his life and his family’s well-being in jeapordy. And for what? It killed me to hear it because I think he is so talented and had such a promising future. TI OFFERED HIMSELF UP ON A PLATE TO THE VERY PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO TAKE HIM DOWN. That’s what I’m saying is stupid. You really gon’ say you don’t understand that?
I am so sick of these black men acting like complete idiots. And they wonder why people call them niggers. Just remember, sometimes they don’t call you a nigger because you’re black. They call you a nigger because of how you act!
@Please believe
Its SO sexy when a black man goes all “intellectual”!
@joe
I have no problem with that you do the crime you do the time just don’t try to hand it to others as if you’ve become a law-abiding citizen.
People don’t realize that a lot of times that some of the people in the community that are considered unsavory characters can help the community in ways that politicians, police and civil right leaders can’t.
most blacks don’t know their history or they wouldn’t be making ignorant ass comments about their own people. you should really eihter study your own history (and you will get a lot of answers to your questions) or study what Yt does (they don’t have moral discussion boards about what Paris hilton and others do) and stop trying to be a good nigger. Aren’t we striving for more than that in 2007. Haven’t we had enough experience to know that no matter how good we act that it’s not going to work. We will always be NIGGERS in YT’s eyes. ALL OF US. so don’t get it twisted and stop degrading one another
This man has a problem with Black leaders because they asked other Black men to stop calling Black women b*tches and hoes, and now he’s mad because somebody isn’t willing to go to jail for another idiot who was gearing up for American Gangster Part II. Will somebody put this jackass out of his misery already! That would have been the best use of one of those guns T.I. purchased!
David Banner should just shut up and get a life! He wouldn’t have done it and so he can just stop lying. Black fools need to stop acting like “wanna be gangsters”.
In the famous words from the theme of Barretta: “Don’t do the crime if you don’t want to do the time”.
OR better yet MONOPOLOY: GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL. DON’T PASS GO!!!
Stupid niggas! POW!!!!!!!!
does anyone know the percentage of those who do the “no snitching” thing, who do the time, and, when they get out, are taken care of by the people who actually did the crime compared to the ones that actually “snitch” to keep they own ass out of jail cuz they know the person they would’ve protected aint got shit to give them when they come out?
crystal just reminded me that my husband brought home a bootleg copy of “american gangster”. i’ve got to remember to watch it tonight.
No one wants to “toss a prison salad” just so they can save face. If they do, their a slave to their master.
at loverofall: didn’t you say you were in school. WOW! Once again why are we accepting racism and then turn right around and degrade one another. Is it anger, frustration, that in 2007 we will just accept that fact and say well you know Yt was waiting for you to fall. SMH. and people keep saying how ignorant these rappers are.
P.S. There is enough ignorance to go around. Stop letting YT use our behavior to control us. We will never “BEHAVE” well enough to get respect.
This crap is the stuff rappers need to stop putting in the minds of our youth / leading them to believe that saving your own life & telling the truth is wrong.. A real man wouldn’t allow someone else to go to prison for his mistakes. …That’s just confusing our children continuously pitting them against each other forcing them to make a descion between self or someone else, which simply leads to more black on black crime if you chose to protect self and SNITCH on someone else.. Many young black males literally deteriorate in jail for crimes they didn’t commit, trying to be loyal to another brother who don’t give a &#!+, that’s not going to send you a dime while your doing his time. Sitting there rotting for him living like a rat amongst the real killers, rapist and drug dealers. ..Little brothers don’t be no fool… DO SNITCH… IT’ CAN SAVE YOUR LIFE..or STOP SNITCHING AND DO LIFE..,BLACK BROTHERS GROW UP AND BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS…good or bad….
P.S.
Sick & Tired
of non educated rappers
telling our youth how to live..
please post…
dismymoney – i really don’t understand any of your posts. i want to, but i can’t.
okay, so, is it just me, or does anyone else think that the bodyguard must also have had a questionable past to put in int his situation?
did he just decided to call the police one day and said, “um, i wanted to let you know TI is procuring illegal arms…”
or was he himself caught in a prediciament was cornered into giving up the “bigger [more relevant, sensational] fish [criminal]“?
that is one of the most ignorant statements to come out of this ugly man’s mouth i am not even serving jail time for family members you do your shit you do your time…. no snitching? nigga get the fuck out of here why did TI have so many weapons im sure illegally as well …thats the question stand up for the right things black folks
@crystal
You mean like Harpo?
She has a problem with it but she puts SUPERHEAD on her show to promote her book.
Sorry, I gotta go. This discussion is going nowhere. We will never prosper b/c we are to concerned with how people see us instead of discussing how we prosper economically. Good-bye GOOD LITTLE HOUSE NIGGERS.
p.S. I HOPE THAT ONE DAY MAYBE 20 YEARS FROM NOW THAT ALL BLACKS WILL BEHAVE WELL ENOUGH FOR THE APPROVAL OF YT. FUCKING LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HOLLA. OOPS THAT WAS MY GHETTO SIDE TALKING. I MEAN HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE. (I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL YT STARTS USING HOLLA, SO IT WOULDN’T BE GHETTO ANYMORE, LIKE “MY BAD”, “BLING BLING”, “SHOUT OUT”, ETC. NIGGERS WILL ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE APPROVAL OF YT. NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
@CCC
Your picture makes me happy.
Coop
@crystal
You mean like Harpo?
She has a problem with it but she puts SUPERHEAD on her show to promote her book.
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Shut yo’ mouth and say it ain’t so. Superhead was on Orpah????!?!?! When? Why? Oh no Oprah why her?
@joe
crystal just reminded me that my husband brought home a bootleg copy of “american gangster”. i’ve got to remember to watch it tonight.
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You do know that is a felony?
@ AND…
Yeah she was on Oprah, I can’t remember the date but it was around the time her first book came out.
And this is why Aaron McGruder had to put this out there. Watch and learn people, watch and be edumicated…
http://boondockseries.com/2007/10/21/season-2-episode-3-thank-you-for-not-snitching/
@AND…
Yes she was sitting up there just as proud.
But rapper are not allow on to speak for themselves
@ coop
hey, stop snitching!
@AND…
you can check out karrines site to see a clip from the show. i’m sure you can find it on youtube, also.
i mean, hey, she’s “highly educated” black woman who regularly voices her distaste for black people and refeers to them as N****s and porch monkeys.
okay, enough of the sarcasm. i liked her first book because i read it as a story of someone’s life rather than a “tell all”. but her attitude [and second book] just sucks.
[rant] it offends me that a woman who barely has a GED proclaims herself to be “highly educated”. it really undermines the women who actually busted thier asses in school. [/rant]
Just read with an open mind. The whole fiasco makes me embarassed:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1024/p09s01-coop.html
I know many will just claim the white media is out to smear, but the “white media” helped created this overreaction.
Think a little bit before believing what you want to be true (and why you want it to be true in the first place)
@GirlieGirl
The are people that skate around the law and have a certain code of ethics.
Did you know that the person that organized the gathering outside of the police station in the movie Malcolm X was one of those type of people. I’m not say their angels but sometime you need those type of people.
@Thoughts on Jena
How did the white media help to create it when they took months to report it. And when the they did they were kicking and screaming.
i’m so sick of this stop snitching campaign. why don’t people like david banner see the bigger issue? our communities are not safe for US because of US. the police don’t care if you “snitch” or not. They get to go back to their neighborhood and live peacefully. When certain people say “stop snitching” they’re basically saying it’s alright for shady activity to occur around OUR homes. stop blaming the cops and white people and own up to your own destructive behavior and principles. I believe that we are able to build ourselves up but WE’VE got to be willing to do it. unfortunately the people who need to hear this aren’t on this site. They’re out there acting a fool and perpetuating the ignorance.
koon
most blacks don’t know their history or they wouldn’t be making ignorant ass comments about their own people. you should really eihter study your own history (and you will get a lot of answers to your questions) or study what Yt does (they don’t have moral discussion boards about what Paris hilton and others do) and stop trying to be a good nigger. Aren’t we striving for more than that in 2007. Haven’t we had enough experience to know that no matter how good we act that it’s not going to work. We will always be NIGGERS in YT’s eyes. ALL OF US. so don’t get it twisted and stop degrading one another
@Koon
are you trying to say I’m degrading TI by calling him stupid for feeding himself to those who wanted him taken down? You’re logic is on a whole other level. Do you even understand the concept of “personal accountability”? Come on man! “YT” ain’t telling the brother in the club to grab me and refer to me as “bitch”. And as much as institutional racism is very real you have got to take responsibility for yourself. Now I’m mad because you got me sounding like Bill Cosby! LOL You are truly on some OTHER stuff if you think it ain’t TI fault in the least. STOP SPEAKING COONERY!
@ AND
that pic makes me happy too…
@joe
@ coop
hey, stop snitching!
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LMAO LMAO
I like that even though we disagree you don’t get into the mudsling.
Okay, I skipped around, read maybe 8 replies but I agree… yeah, this is sooo ignorant and not only is this man expected to know better (seeing as how he was not only a college man but student gov president) BUT also to, on a basic level, MAKE SENSE! lol
No, I take that back… Why should we expect someone to be socially responsible when he can’t even manage self-esteem. Remember when he tried to go pretty boy rapper? After that Run/Play sung he was all like: “I didn’t know the ladies thought I was cute” and then he cut his hair and began to dress differently… as if anybody would think him attractive either way… Go back to the beard and hyper kinesis…and your old books…
And go look at TMZ or PErex Hilton. Those white folk go HARD on Paris Hilton, Lindsey Lohan, Britany Spears and anyone else they think is an idiot so stop with that “you don’t see white people talking bad about each other”.
And my DEGREE is in History so I know mine playa! You trying to be on your Black Panther game without acknowledging that they didn’t condone this nonsense in their communities. They promoted education and solidarity not “Stop Snitchin’” Get it right!
@coop
honestly, i know encouraging bootlegging is wrong. but, piracy being a felony doesn’t bother me; piracy preventing artisit and people who work in the industry to have a fair shot at earning a living does bother me.
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A lot of you should listen to this interview by Killer Mike he touches on a lot of topics in a intelligent way. And the song at the end is on point.
http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/2006/10/podcast-grind-time-with-killer-mike.html
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joe
@AND…
you can check out karrines site to see a clip from the show. i’m sure you can find it on youtube, also.
i mean, hey, she’s “highly educated” black woman who regularly voices her distaste for black people and refeers to them as N****s and porch monkeys.
okay, enough of the sarcasm. i liked her first book because i read it as a story of someone’s life rather than a “tell all”. but her attitude [and second book] just sucks.
[rant] it offends me that a woman who barely has a GED proclaims herself to be “highly educated”. it really undermines the women who actually busted thier asses in school. [/rant]
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This is really fucking up my psyche. WTF?????!??!?!?
David Banner is a fool. And the stop snitching mentality only allows criminals to walk free and keep committing more crimes crimes.
TI is an idiot. He made $16 million last year, and should have been able to make a good $10-15 million a year for a while. So if he gets 5 years in jail, how much does he lose over that period? $50-75 million??? Over some guns? He’s an idiot. Period.
No, David Banner must be crazy! if it were me, i ain’t doin’ nobody’s time! You should take responsibility for what you do. TI is an an idiot for even cookin’ up such a stupid idea….knowing he is a convicted felon already…. He finally arrives at the top of his game and now he wants to f*ck up?? it’s TI’s own fault and his securuty’s fault too for even getting involved.
@Joe
A line that Andre3000 said in a song touches on that by saying “how would you like it if I came to your job and take your corn on the cob would that be all right with you”
@ AND – really!? we should ask her to help use game theoretic analysis to explain the benefits of global collective action on terrorism. because, i can do that, and i don’t consider myself “highly” anything.
@NiggaWhat – he has enough money to have hire the proper consel to legally procure a weapon, should he had needed it that bad. scratch that. he can afford to hire a privte army of ex-isreali combat soliders to provide protection, should he feel he needs it that bad.
wait…that wouldn’t be gangsta…
@Lauren
He not talking about you. He’s speaking of people that are doing things they know are against the law and when they get caught they want to rat.
@coop
if it offers any kind of justification for wrong doing on my part, i can say, i do not support bootleging of respectable [yea, i know, respectable bu who's standards] artist. therefore, i only bootleg lil wayne, 50 cent, david banner, et al.
denzel washington happend by chance.
@ Coop
Wait a minute you mean stanky stinky funky was on the O show and I think I read somewhere that she didn’t want rappers on her show come on now please say it ain’t so. Thats like a huge slap in the face and I wonder just how her audience was looking. SMDH!!
@ MyBusiness
Karrine does an excellent job at playing the “danzel in distress” role. As if these celebrities forced her into this lifestyle. Ole girl knows how to switch it up. When you get her around people she is more comfortable with, she’s qucik to brag how much her house costs and that “hoeing” made it all possible.
I don’t know, maybe I’m just “hating” because apparently, I don’t have “super-head” that will allow me a book deal, a pass from taking care of my child, or a multi-million dollar home [if, that's even true].
One more thing this whole thing where Rappers/Singers come out and say stupid stuff its like they has to do or say something to stupid to stay in the publics eye let it go. I wonder do he have a CD about to come out because it seems like thats when they start saying and doing crazy crap to get attention. SMH
@joe
We all decide what we feel is acceptable on our own terms.
@ Joe
In her book does it say how many dieases shes had or have because I know she some kind of virus walking around here spreading that stuff and she put you in mind to be the type spread it and than keep track of everyone she has sleep with and when she dies thats what her will will be made of just names and what they have. Nasty
@My Business
Yes sir or mam
That why I said that people should listen to the song at the end of the interview.
http://www.maximumfun.org/blog/2006/10/podcast-grind-time-with-killer-mike.html
she doesn’t mention having any stds or pregnancy in her first book, or the first half of the second [i can't bring myself to finish the second book]. she has mentioned on television interviews and public speaking engagements that she does [did] practice safe sex. personally, i don’t beleive she did every single time. especially since she admits to being high on various drugs most of the time.
carmen bryant [nas' baby's mamma], does however, disclose that she had an std from either nas or jay-z.
hth
@My Business
Yes sir or mam
That why I said that people should listen to the song at the end of the interview.
My Business
@ Coop
Wait a minute you mean stanky stinky funky was on the O show and I think I read somewhere that she didn’t want rappers on her show come on now please say it ain’t so. Thats like a huge slap in the face and I wonder just how her audience was looking. SMDH!!
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that’s what I’m saying. my mind is really fucked up behind this.
If Oprah allowed her on the show (I’m only saying “if” because I’ve not seen it) it is because there is some room, albeit patronizing, for different perspectives… In other words, the whore can argue her point…
When it comes to rappers, though, it’s convoluted because they will acquiesce: “yeah,” they’ll say, “calling black women bitches is wrong but I have first ammendment rights/I can only depict what I know/I am not talking to all of them/they do it in movies.”
So, they double-speak…who needs it?
i’m tired of talking about karrine, but, yes, she was on the show. not if she was. i think the show was titled, “stupid girls” or something like that. you can find a clip of the show quite easily GIYF [google is your friend].
for sammy pretty:
http://www.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200604/tows_past_20060410.jhtml
All I have to say is: FUCK THESE SNITCHES.
I hope they bury his punk ass. Erebody riding with him can go too. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
i tell you what we can do. LETS DUCT TAPE THIS STUIPD ASS MOUTH AND THROW HIM IN JAIL ALONG WITH TI THEN WE WON’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIS STUPID ASS NO MORE. THE MAN GETS ON MY NERVES!
joe,
I wasn’t questioning you lol I was careful to say “if” for those who are questioning you… I’ve only recently starting reading this blog, but I’ve noticed things get rather weird here…arguments and stuff. Anyway, yep, I believed you…
Okay I was about to freak out cuz I thought Oprah had jumped off the deep end. I did not see the Oprah show with Pink and Karrine but I just went to the website and read the interview (or at least excerts from it) and it is pretty much in line with Oprah usual guest. Karrine was telling how she has contributed to the degredation of young girls b/c of the image she put out. That goes along with what Oprah does i.e. the ex junkie, hoe, thief etc speaks out on why they did what they did, why they stopped, and now they want to help others. The only problem is that I don’t think Oprah’s crew really research Karrine enough b/c she doesn’t seem to really be trying to do better emotionally and spirtitually just financially. I still don’t like that Karrine was on her show but after all she is an ex-hoe or at least that’s what she says.
sammy – i wasn’t questioning it. i was just providing extra entertainment should you want it. no offense taken.
It’s funny though, even though so many people think Karrine is nasty for the stuff she has done most people do the same freaky things with their significant other (just not for the world to see…hopefully) and no one has a problem with that. Although I am not a fan of Karrine who better to warn young girls about the dangers and bad side of being in the industry other than someone who was in it and got caught up. I would understand if she was lying or suga coating stuff like she is innocent but she is putting it all other there for people to see. If any woman walks on a video set and acts surprised by what goes on she is a fool b/c after all the dirty laundry Karrine has aired out everyone should know what their getting themselves into. Just a thought…
at one time, i would have agreed with you. but, now, i cannot.
just an example; when she was on the jaime foxx show a few months back, she totally tried to down play another young lady. her segment was over and jaime was introducing a second guest. the second guest was a young lady; a model and actress, but without the reputation [thoush she could have still had a similar lifestyle]. karrine immediately attacked her asking, “how much does your home cost? are you a ny times best selling author? is your childs education paid for?”
i’m like, damn girl…it’s okay to be around other sucessful women. we don’t bite.
@joe
That’s what I meant about O’s people not doing enought research on Karrine. I heard from some other folks that she does stuff like that. One day saying don’t do what I did blah, blah, blah and then the next dissn other women who are still in the game or just got in.
i’m going over to the seal post. see you there.
This is one on many reasons why educated blacks never stay and try to help other blacks in the hood. When our people start talking like this it only makes things worse. T.I is my favorite artist but, if he is willing to take someones life then I say the hell with him. This is also the reason why our people do not like calling themselves African American. I have a cousin who looks just like a black person and all of our family members are African American (our grandfather’s mother was Indian) but, she always have to announce to people that she has Indian in her family. Anyway, I can go all day about how dum people can get. Just know that BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL:)
lmao at having “indian” in your family.
David Banner need to shut the fuck up! This nigga running off at the mouth like he street certified. He was never a street nigga in Jaktown! He should stick to commenting on Al Sharpton,now that was real talk!
@Sammy Pretty
I don’t really care that She had SuperHo her show my point was that she allow her a platform to speak no matter how long it was. And when she had her town hall meeting she did not have any of the artist that she was talking about on her show and when luda was on there she edited everything he said.
You don’t fix a “problem” by talking at it.
@bigchassie
People are often bothered by the truth. And what he said is on point
coop
? @ big chassie?
@mjoneso166
What happens is that people get educated and run from their roots.
I heard a interview the other day where a black male said that he became a republican because when he went to college he saw all his classmates had traveled the world as children and he had not because he was poor.
That as stupid as a educated person can sound.
@joe
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ccop -
i’m trying to follow the discussion, but this came out of no where:
@bigchassie
People are often bothered by the truth. And what he said is on point
what a bad reason to choose a political party. i’m not surprised. i find americans to be very strange when it comes to politics.
To Joe:
I know that is crazy right? lol! I am so glad that someone see this as being ridiculous as much as I do (anyone in their right mind should). My cousin perms her hair and then tells people her hair is like that because she has indian in her family. I am so sick of people thinking that blacks cannot have good hair(Some of us do need to use perms). I hope you comment back. I love talking about this kind of stuff;)
will david banner please hurry up n’ go somewhere.
That is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard since leaving the ghetto.
maybe she’s just insecure and need to feel as though she “belongs”. i don’t know if that makes any sense, but i think that for some black americans, it’s hard for them to identify with a culture, especially since they are so detached from the original cultures.
i hate when people ask me what i am “mixed with”. granted, i am african and hispanic, but i am always curious when men ask me, “you’re so pretty, are you mixed?” as if an african women isn’t attractive by western standards.
my husbands gets so mad when he sees beyonce and her blonde wigs becuase he thinks she is conforming to a western standard of beauty. me, i don’t pay that much attention to her, but her wigs sure doesn look ridiculous.
Good evening bloggers. I have been assigned to monitor comments about this subject on Bossip. Some of your are pushing your limits and may have “a file” opened on your account. Your posts are not confidential as advertised.
@Joe
bigchassie said
“i tell you what we can do. LETS DUCT TAPE THIS STUIPD ASS MOUTH AND THROW HIM IN JAIL ALONG WITH TI THEN WE WON’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIS STUPID ASS NO MORE. THE MAN GETS ON MY NERVES!”
bossip should be aware of the demogrpahics of their audience. i’m sure they post these “thought provoking” topics to ignite this type of discussion. so, for a file to be opened on certain readers’ accounts, well, that’s just silly and a waste of time.
@ coop
ah, gracias.
Politics is someting that keeps us grounded. If people would just stop for a minute and look at the facts and stop being so narrow minded then things would not be so confusing . Some republican policies are good but, for blacks to be a republican they really need to know the history and what they actually stand for.
@joe
It’s like the fact that some blacks voted for bush because of gay marriage. Or that Others voted for him because he could “protect the country”. The same guy who ran from Vietnam
@Fed Agent 2167**
Most likely I already have one. Do I care? No.
i agree coop, but even more so, i don’t understand that americans know their president lied, supports a war based on a false premise, spends tax payer’s money inappropriately, and this country isn’t on fire!
omg. if this happened anywhere else, the counry would be in an uproar. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5035616.stm. in chile, if the govt. isn’t representing the general population accurately [what they were elected to do in the first place] the consituants go to hell. i’m not condoning violence, but something has to be done/said. but the youth here seems to be more concerned with britney spears, lindsay and TI.
@mjoneso166
People like to point out that Lincoln was a republican. But don’t know that he did feel should learn to read and even considered the idea of sending live in Africa on some kind of wild life reserve.
when i first came here, i agreed more with what republicans stood for than democrats. this also could be because i was very influenced by colin powell [you should read his book, my american journey, even if you don't agree with his politics].
however, supporting the republican party doesn’t mean you agree with some of bush policy decisions. i think he is a terrible foriegn policy [fopo] president. that being said, i don’t see anything wrong with being a republican and please rememeber that just because you are apart of a party, you don’t have to condone/accept the leader of that party’s leadership.
HOW IS THIS IGNORENT?
hE IS TELLING THE TRUTH! THE BODYGUARD WAS WAITING ON THE RIGHT MOMENT TO SELL HIM OUT TO SOME MUTHAFUCKA’S THAT DON’T CARE ABOUT HIM ONE LITTLE BIT! THINK ABOUT IT!
@joe
The only way to change things in this country is by election anything else the goverment would smash swiftly. Were to pampered to fight any other way.
@joe I could never be a republican. I just don’t feel like they truely care about people at all.
@ Coop
The only way to change things in this country is by election anything else the goverment would smash swiftly. Were to pampered to fight any other way.
Speak the truth!
Most people do not even think about what it means to have conservative or liberal believes. I was in a class with a european “white” guy (of course) and the teacher called on him and asked why was he a republican. He sated that the reason was because his father was. Sorry for taking so long. I have to go now but, I will be back. I am sure you will be long gone by then. Anyway, comment ok!
Most republican feel they have more money and you know money means power. Too them being a Democr is like living on low income to them thats what I think.
@my business!
Pampered?Sure u wanna use that word?
Maybe a better word would be: APATHETIC!
Think
blackwiz.biz
it doesn’t look like the election process helps to change anything around here.
maybe the reason for the income disparities between parties owes to their stance on taxes and spending.
i believe in low taxes to help rejuvinate spending and business. i don’t beleive in a lot of social spending nor a welfare state [though it workd well in many european countries]. i believe in big government and defense.
these are a few reasons why i relate with some republican principals.
Stop snitching? How about stop doing the crimes that could get your azz fed time? T.I was already a convicted felon. Did he not learn his lesson? He was blessed with another chance and most don’t get that. Other wound up in a wooden box. They should throw the book at his azz. I like T.I but he gets no sympathy on this one. Rappers know “the man” is looking to get them by any means necessary and T.I gave them exactly what they wanted. I applaud that bodyguard. Some innocent people or children could’ve gotten killed over this bull ish. President Bush’s bodyguards probably don’t carry that much armor. I thought David Banner had some damn sense apparently not!! He needs to continue his crusade to help the Katrina victims and keep his nose outta the snitching business.
@ Tiray
Thanks but no thanks sweetie. First of all I copied and paste what had already been typed sorry look and read before you try and correct someone Mr. Dictionary. I’m pretty sure you didn’t see that coming! Smile because I am!
oh yeah, calling all hip hop police!!! Put David Banner’s dumb azz on the list too. I’m sure he is in violation for something since he got so much advice for our generation………..
at loverofall: good you should be mad. And yes i do believe in personal responsibility but I just do it how Yt does it, defend your own always. And as for TMZ and Perez Hilton websites yes they talk about these crazy ass white celebrities but they do it individually and not racially. They don’t attack the whole race b/c of what Britney, Paris, etc. does. They just talk about them as individuals. They don’t say they are a disgrace to the white community. Why? B/c they could care less about what niggers think of them. That’s our hangup and that is what we will always be, MASTER PLEASERS. Why do we have to be on here talking like slaves. “You better stop that before MASTER CATCHES YOU” Gimmie a break
P.S. Don’t you think it’s ironic to say stop blaming Yt and then makes excuses for their racism
@Tiray
I said pampered. But it could be a little of both.
Learn some history and then you may know that Snitching helps nothing in the long run.
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@Qi-Qi
@joe
the best thing would be if it was set up so congress would have to be ran by 3 parties.
admist koon’s very *interesting* comments, there is a valid point. when media outlets mock while celebriteis [i.e. paris, britney, et al] it never becomes an attack on thier race/culture. something to think about.
@coop
american politics/culture/etc is really too much for my simple mind to understand. i admit that i won’t get it, at least not right now.
SMH…this is a damn shame. Brothas need to get they shit together. What happened to T.I. is a shame, but he made the choices about how to live his life. Instead of creating a culture where “snitching” is frowned upon, how about making a culture where black people stop doin’ dumb shit that gets our asses put behind bars in the first place? Black pride is not about doin’ time. How can you hold your head up when you know you ain’t doin’ right?
This is a sad time for us, and we causing a lot of problems for ourselves with attitudes like this.
it’s very easy. i learned how to do it from yt.
p.s. why is this time so much sadder than any other time, b/c we have a few more blacks making millions and billions. who the fuck is filling your head with this nonsense
HE IS SO FOOLISH AND CLEARLY DOESNT REALIZE THE IGNORANCE IN HIS COMMENT. I THOUGHT HE WAS A COLLEGE GRADUATE, HE CLEARLY LEARNED NOTHING ABOUT SELF ELEVATION AND PRIDE.
If you’re doing illegal shit, don’t tell me, because I’m not going to jail for NOBODY!!!!
This STOP SNITCHING thing has got so out of control. Not tryna justify what snitching is, but what I remember…snitching was if you were in the game you got caught, then you gave up names so you could do lesser time or because you were scared. What is the world coming to………oh my!!!!
@Tasha
But you not what he’s talking about. He’s speaking of people that are doing things they know are against the law and when they get caught they want to rat. There is a difference, but they power that be have done a good job of blurring the lines.
@perfectprincess
The ignorance is people don’t know difference in a government snitch and everyday person that is a witness.
What in the hell is supposed to be so freakin’ “cool” and “down” with covering for dumb-asses? As has been repeated thousands of times for the past 20 YEARS OR SO, Black people are killing each other or doing things that are destroying the family and neighborhood, oh, but “Don’t tell”; they jus’ handlin’ their business.
“Stop Snitchin’” … spoken in true negroidian fashion. And somewhere off in the distance groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the Aryan Nations are laughing and applauding coon a** ni**as’ like him … while black people stop snitchin’ and our communities continue 2 deteriorate.
I’ve said it be4 and I’ll say it again … as blacks we might have been better off back in the Jim Crow ear when it still legal 2 hang ni**as. At least we were more unified back then.
@LetMeTellYa
Everyone is jumping to conclusions. Bossip left out a lot of info as usual. Yes he talks about snitches but he also talks about Camron’s stupid comment that he would not snitch on a serial killer. He also says that gangs should come together and stop fighting and help black men be men.
@UNDERSTANDING AKA A NIGGA
You are the original meaning of the word nigga becuse you are truely ignorant. 1st off none the groups you mentioned like snitches so if the are laughing it is at the condoning of snitching. Snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
i am so sick of hearin people say theu support Vic, T.I. and any other law breakin criminal. Vic has to be the dumbest person alive to participate in animal cruelty, dog fighting at that. it is in humane, stupid and cruel. u can hear the dogs crying and whimperin in pain and the idiot spectators eggin the dogs on, pushin them back out there, making them fight and maim each other to death, all the while they stand there placin bets and whoopin and hollerin. these dogs breath and bleed just like us, they wanna be loved and taken care of just like us, they cry and feel pain just like us. and what they do to these dogs to train them is malicious and devious and all for a couple of bucks. i dont care how long or where(in what communities) this has been a way of life. it is stupid, shows ur inferiority and that ur criminal minded. if thast u be proud. T.I.’s situation is no different, aint nobody askin u to be a role model but with 26 kids(lol) u would think that u would focus or being home to raise them. im form the projects of Chicago, i understand the ghetto mentality and way of life. I understand that this circle needs to be broken. that might help others less fortunate realize that there is a way out and that black folks don have to live like roaches. these guys got straight loot and they doin stuff u would expect from the poor and ignorant. they deserved what the get, they shouldn’t be let off easy cause they celebrities, or because there is a stupid war goin on, or because other stupid, misguided and misguided celebrities think so. man up, u did the crime now do the time. also dont get it twisted, i aint with snitchin but what is life.
it seems like some of you all dont know the difference between SNITCHING and being a WITNESS!
WITNESS = innocent bystander who witness’ a crime. has every right in the world to tell the authorities.
SNITCH = someone who “drops dime” on someone else in order to cut his/her sentence time. a guilty person who doesnt want to “go down” by him/her self.
tht being said, snithces get stiches! lol.
Banner is a pure idiot.
could i get a translation of this mess? i get a headache trying to read David Banner
Crime benefits the few while the collective pays a heavy price. It is not as if we are seeing a genuine Robin Hood out there, and even then I would think our brains could manage better solutions than crime. There should be no safe haven for any criminal at any level. From crooked police officers and their code of silence to crooked civilians – across all ethnic groups no matter social status, we must act as bounty hunters on a search and destroy mission. Burn em!!!
and that is this ridiculous mentality is the reason so many murders go unsolved and innocent lives unavenged. way to perpetuate this crap david dumbass
Visit http://www.richromances.com and see what they celebrities are talking about this.
Stop Snitchin? Is he fucking crazy? TI was dud’e employer!! Who the hell on here can say they gonna take the fall for their fucking boss?? TI had a bodyguard, therefore there was no need for all them gotdamn guns! With all those children in the house? We could have been reading about a totally different tragedy if one of the kids got a hold to one. If you do the crime, do the time!! It is time for black men to realize if you can’t be accountable for the fucked up shit you do, don’t do no fucked up shit!
Almost all these posts prove my point that most blacks see Gangsta rap as entertainment and not as a serious reflections on their lives. While we may enjoy the music of TI and Banner, we do not necessarily agree with their lifestyles. This is why I get impatient with social “leaders” who keep yelling about how rap is ruining the black community. It is not. Certain people are harmful to the community, as these types would be to any community with or without the music.
David Banner: PLEASE SHUT THE F*CK UP
Thank you.
Written By Coop
@UNDERSTANDING AKA A NIGGA
You are the original meaning of the word nigga becuse you are truely ignorant. 1st off none the groups you mentioned like snitches so if the are laughing it is at the condoning of snitching. Snitching ratting or what ever you want to call it has gotten bigger in the last 20 or so years. Does it seem to be making the world better or worse?
At COOP … someone once said its better 2 keep quiet and be thought a fool than 2 open your mouth and remove all doubt. U’re an idiot if u think that the Ku Klux Klan and the Aryan Nations “like” snitching. Lol at u calling me ignorant when what u said has 2 be one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever read. What these white supremacists groups like is 4 black people 2 be good little negroes and keep quiet about sh*t going on in their neighborhoods and communities while murders go unsolved and more back and forth retaliation occurs which means more black on black crime, death and murder.
And lol at snitching has gotten bigger over the last 20 yrs … woooord? Where did u hear that sh*t? FIRST time I ever heard anyone say that. In the meantime and in between time I read articles about the murder rate rising in so-called Killadelphia [understanding shakes head], Newark and other predominatly black areas and I specifically remember reading about law enforcement in Newark expressing public frustration b/c [in certain instances] when cats get bodied [even in broad daylight] … nobody knows what nobody knows so what planet are u living on?
Lastly, whether snitching is making the world a better place or not is not the topic at hand and that topic[ in and of itself] is an entirely different thread or what have u. What IS being discussed here is the MENTALITY of certain people of color as 2 whether or not 2 say something or keep their mouth shut. Sometimes they speak up … other times they don’t 4 fear of retaliation from people who look just like them in their own damn communities. Its like Large Professor once said …
“The person u least expect 2 split ya’ neck
9 times outta’ every 10 crimes is the PRIME suspect.
It doesn’t feel good
When u can’t trust ya’ brotha’
Cuz’ ya’ brothas’ the neighborhood Hood.”
im very proud of the comments on here. violence is not the answer and should NOT be condoned.
snitching keeps the community safe.
for all you wannabe hood folks, living in the ghetto is not something to brag about.
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@ Setting The Record Straight …
I don’t know if snitching keeps the community safe. It’d be nice if that was honestly and truly the case and maybe it is I don’t know. My thing is if people decide 2 keep their mouths shut b/c at some point in the future either they or some1 they know is gonna “handle it in the streets” this is what perpetuates the problem. And even if some1 has decided not 2 take the law in2 their own hands its still wack 2 know that the murderer of some mother’s son or some child’s father is runnin’ in the streets like its all when he’s got black blood on his hands.
Not 2 say that it makes me feel any better 2 see more young black males in prison than in college but the whole thing is just frustratin’ and something has GOT 2 give. I wish I could say what that is.
My advice to those who are being terrorized in their own neighborhoods is to KEEP SNITCHIN ON THEIR PUNK ASSES! TAKE A MENTAL NOTE OF THEIR LICENSE PLATES AND CALL 1-800-WE-TIPP. YOU CAN CALL YOUR LOCAL POLICE FOR THEIR TIP LINE. AND, IF THERES A REWARD IT’S ALL THE BETTER. All they do is deface our communities, kill our kids, intimidate our kids into doing their crime (so essentially robbing them of their future potential with criminal records), run out on their kids, floss on their poor communities, infect our daughters with infections, exploit our daughters, owe child support…need i say more. if they want a war, then enlist your punk ass in the army and go to iraq. but, i’m sure they wouldn’t even last a day. they are punks thats why they have to roll so deep. let’s take a stand and take back our communities. be smart about it. don’t get caught, but keep snitching on their asses so that they can end up in jail on all fours gettin plucked from behind. they’ll end up on thugbait.com shortly thereafter. We need more positive role models in our community. btw, when was the last time David Banner had a hit record? work on that shit and shut your fucking mouth. you don’t represent all black men and women, only the ones that continue to embarrass the hell out of the rest of us. Your are the reason why we are followed when we go into upscale stores and treated all like negros. get the fuck out of here.
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@ LISA
I said something similar 2 some1 I was talking 2 recently lol!!! I was like yo’ if ni**as’ wanna brandish guns in the hood like its all good then send ‘em over 2 Iraq or Afghanistan or someplace like that. Let’s see how their gun skills are over there. Lord knows no one in a black community is benefittin’ from it.
Its like Chris Rock was sayin’ in one of his comedy specials [Bring The Pain] when he was talkin’ about the fact that our kids can’t play outside anymore and if they do they’re relegated 2 damn near standin’ in a tiny a** square from here 2 there cuz’ ni**as’ is bound 2 squeeze off in broad daylight [smh]. We are truly our own worst enemy.
If you BREAK the law. You should EXPECT to go to jail. Flat out. You may never be caught BUT, regardless of who ’snitches’, yo criminal ass was due for a trip up the river so take it and keep it moving….How you gone be mad at somebody telling some shit you aint supposed to be doing any damn way?? Dont do the crime if you can’t do the time. Backwards ass nukkas….
it’s funny that david banner and the others are trying to make TI the victim, when he obviously bought those guns to make some other people real victims. his bodyguard did him a favor by getting him around 10 years when he would have gotten life for the murders he wanted to commit. get serious.
David Banner is the stupidest negro to-date. I really wish the Hip hop community would wake up and stop allowing that man to represent for them. He gets props because he’s outspoken, but he loses mucho points for speaking foolishness all day. Jesus take the wheel!
@UNDERSTANDING AKA A NIGGA
If it’s better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than 2 open your mouth and remove all doubt. why didn’t you keep quiet you foolish NIGGA. Your foolish ignorant statement was that “somewhere off in the distance groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the Aryan Nations were laughing” as if they liked it. Your the type foolish NIGGA that only likes the colors the red, yellow and green because you in your ignorance thinks that makes you blacker then the next person. You and other programmed idiots. Why don’t make a attempt to have more of a brain then a comatose being. Why can you and others understand that stop Snitching refers to people that GET ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING THEY KNEW WAS ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THEN DECIDE TO COPERATE IN ORDER TO LOWER THERE TIME. If you had seen DVD you would no that it never mentions normal everyday people that mention a crime.
“woooord?” “In the meantime and in between time” Ok world life God I call my brother son cause he shine like one. What are you some kind of fake New York 5 Percenter. I bet you have Dreads so that you can feel more “righteous”. I have seen article where retired detectives have even stated that in hindsight they can see that the snitching 70’s 80′ and 90’s has cause problems in the community because the higher ranking member of the underworld could help police the community in ways the police politicians and Activist could never.
People need to understand that what maybe good for you may not seem like it came out of a fairy tale. You saying we were better back in Jim Crow days foolish NIGGA please go sit down.
@Setting the Record Straight
There’s a difference in snitching and someone grandma witnessing a crime. But the authorities don’t want people to see the difference.
@dotherightthing
TI is no victim. Thing is the bodyguard knew the risk and the consequences. So when some one knowingly commits a crime they should be ready for whatever and do their own time and not try to share it with others.
@ COOP. I said that somewhere off the distance the KKK was laughing b/c they want black people 2 keep quiet about the sh*t that goes on in our their communities and its true. They would rather we self-destruct from the inside out rather that cooperate with law enforcement and possibly rememdy the situation.
As far as that reference 2 the wearing of certain colors 2 feel blacker … Negro Please. I’m a grown a** man dawg so I know enough 2 understand that what u wear has nothing 2 do with blackness. And the dreads reference was comical considering I rock a baldy dumb a**.
Lastly what detectives said about back in the day doesn’t concern me. Let’s stick 2 the present. This past summer when sh*t was hot in Newark I remember Mayor Booker and various Black members of law enforcement having 2 put out a public plea 4 help in solving the rash of murders b/c when asked 4 helpful information … supposedly nobody knew or saw anything. And when people in the streets were asked by news reporters why no one would cooperate some cats responded with “Snitches Get Stitches“. Now if they misunderstood the so-called true definition of snitchin’ then so be it but it seems 2 me that the definition can vary from person 2 person or hood 2 hood so that what might be snitchin’ 2 some might not be snitchin’ 2 others.
The fact is there are people out here who feel that giving law enforcement any kind of helpful information is wrong. There are cats out here who would rather let the streets handle it. And b/c of mentalities like this I still stand by what I said about black people during the Jim Crow Era. Keep in mind that Jim Crow was technically still in effect during the Civil Rights Era and it was when the Civil Rights legislation was passed that Jim Crow was legally struck down. And the FACT is that during Jim Crow black people stuck 2gether way more than they do 2day b/c they knew who the enemy was and there was no half steppin’. They literally knew who and what they up against at all times. Nowadays? …. ni**as’ is shootin’ each other 4 the “right” 2 sell each other weed and crack and they have women and children scared and too shook 2 say anything. With that in mind bite a brick and stop tryin’ 2 teach somebody somethin’.
I am not familiar with this person but he sounds like a damn fool.
We have sociapaths in our neighborhoods that can kill little people on a whim and just keep on going like nothing has happened, and, this is what he wants to come out lead people in is to stop snitching. There is only one way that you can enforce that and that is thru terroristic behavior.
This person is just trying to sell records and he is trying to act as if he is spitting out knowledge. If this man has a family why should he go to jail for another man and his family.
TI, should have thought about his family. It is time for these young men to grow up and realize there are other ways to handle situations.
There is a God and you will have to answer for what you are doing to your families and communities.
now WHO THE HELL WANTS TO GO TO JAIL FOR ANOTHER MAN CRIME ESPECIALLY FOR 10 YEARS, TI IS JUST ONE OF THE STUPID RAPPERS OUT THERE. DO LIKE PUFFY, 50 CENTS, AKON, RZA COMMENTS WERE THE BEST ONE. BANNER IS STUCK
Of note are some comments that Rapper Chuck D made blastin’ the Stop Snitching campaign on the Public Enemy’s website:
“The term ‘SNITCH’ was best applied to those that ratted revolutionaries like Huey P. Newton, Bobby Seale, Che Guevara. Let’s not let stupid cats use hip-hop to again twist this meaning for the sake of some ‘innerganghood’ violent drug thug crime dogs, who’ve sacrificed the black community’s women and children.”
… word. And David Banner needs 2 stfu.
Please Dave, I don’t want to hear it. You snitched on the BET awards about bootleggers & limewire, so please with the stop snitching mess.
David Banner…
Southern University called and want that degree back, you got from them.
And we can stop the whole stop snitching debate because we (as black folk) as dumb enough to rat ourselves out. Thank you Youtube and myspace. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, a group of boys in Arlington, Texas killed another boy and bragged about it on myspace. That’s how the cops got all three of them.
@UNDERSTANDING AKA A NIGGA
They most likely rather we destruct from the inside the way that we are with snitching playing a part. You don’t at all find it coincidental that the degradation of ethics and morals in our community coincides with the degradation ethic and morals in the streets.
I never said wearing those colors I said that you like those color for the stated reason. As far as the bald head good for your bama a$$.
And what the detective said should concern you because sensible people learn from their mistakes. Now I will agree that unfortunately the definition varies from person to person, and as I stated that I think that law enforcement plays a part in that because they want the lines blurred so people such as yourself will not know the difference between someone auntie witnessing a murder and someone snitch on their partner for hustling so that they can get less time for their hustling. Camron said that he would not tell if their if a serial killer lived next to him well you know what Camron is a IDIOT that show that he put on when he appeared on 60 Minutes showed me he would snitch and that he was just for show. If your not going tell the police about a serial killer or child molester then I have no problem with the streets handling it but don’t sit back and do nothing. My issue is snitching to get out of jail time that you earned on your own.
As far as what Chuck D said I like Chuck but he left out something’s like the fact that many of the people that he mentioned were supported by people that you and others would have no problem with snitching on. And when I say support I don’t mean in spirit only.
Here is the song that Banner made the statement in it’s not my type of music but he make some points.
http://www.zshare.net/download/4372522b0fa87b/
THIS THE MOST IGNORANT STATEMENT THIS FOOL HAS EVER SAID! No wonder this fool is on his way out. Good riddance IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m so tired of these wanna be hood fools and their silliness. Our black children re dying because of bullshit caused by this fool and others like him. Instead of him talking about making our “hoods” safe for our women and children, hell for our men period, he’s on some dumb ass rap inspired bullshit. This is where parents need to pull their children aside and tell them, “This is someone who does not have your best interest at heart. This is someone who believes that you should not take responsibility for your actions. This is someone who believes that everything done in darkness will remain in darkness” I really wish these rappers would think of someone other than themseleves and something other than their pockets and careers.
@RU4real
I can tell you haven’t listen to the song.
To everyone complaining about what you don’t understand this is for you
http://www.superdeluxe.com/sd/contentDetail.do?id=D81F2344BF5AC7BB380D6547CC5F0488E0A11E63C3FECA17
http://www.freshflixx.com/channel/sohh-tv/index.php?bcpid=376530222&bclid=440748065&bctid=823328719
Stop Snitching
Squealing is for pigs
Tipping is for cows
FOLKS MUST LOVE LIVING IN FEAR. WHY WORRY ABOUT THE WHITE MAN TELLING YOU THAT YOU’RE NOTHING BUT AN ANIMAL. WE GOT OUR OWN DOING IT FOR US.