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Oh my word!

damn nam u beat me to it

Did anyone really expect him to confess…. he’s a coward. Cowards don’t take responsibility for their actions.

Oh yeah he’s gonna say ” I killed 3 people over some dumb shit”. Of course not he’s a bitch.

did we really expect him to say “yeah, i did it.” hell it took months just to charge him. he’d be a fool to cop.

I really hope they have the right person.

I really don’t think the dude did it! Can’t understand why he would kill the family, and not the freakin Sister being she was the one that pissed him off…. but only time will tell

DIPSET DIPSET DIPSET

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CAMRON WILL BE BACK NEXT MONTH!!!! EVERBODY GET READY! ITS ABOUT TO BE CRAZY!!!!! KILLA CAM BOUT TO COME BACK AND SHUT EVERYBODY DOWN!!!!!!!

Did Jennifer perform at all last night?

i don’t think he did it

this dude was convicted in the media. i don’t think they have enough on him but we’ll see. lots of circumstancial stuff that really doesn’t prove anything. after that cop shot that lil dude in the back in oakland (and new orleans) something in me changed about them. i believe cops will do anything they need to do to make sure this dude takes the fall.

hmm i hope he did it is correct,i think they need to check the sister,thats all im saiyng

He guilty of something, convict him for that.

I am always leary of the cops. I never believe anything they say unless it’s on video. So many people have been convicted over BS the cops came up with. Then after they have lost 20+ years later they reinvestigate the crime and realize the guy was innocent all alone. As for William, I will wait till everything comes out before I make a judgement on this. Although, I still think he should be locked up. For reasons like making babies he can’t financially support (Legally). His little demon thug seed will be a detriment on society in about 12 years. MARK MY WORD.

That should be “Leery” of the cops

HIS BITCH ASS DID IT. YO GOING TO JAIL AND I HOPE YOU GET LIFE.

check out the sister. That’s all I’m going to say…

NY NEEDS CAMRON! CAMRON IS THE LAST HOPE! HES THE ONLY ONE WITH ANY REAL HISTORY!!!

CAMRON RAPPED WITH LEGENDS LIKE BIGL! HE WAS PUT ON BY “THE NOTORIOUS BIG”… BIG CALLED CAMRON A “LYRICAL GENIUS” FOR HIS ABILITY TO LAYER METAPHORS!

CAMRON WROTE LIL KIMS RAPS! THATS HOW HE GOT IN THE GAME…AS A GHOSTWRITTER!

CAMRON WROTE “CRUSH ON YOU” BY LIL KIM AND OTHER HIP HOP SONGS PEOPLE DONT KNOW ABOUT!

PEOPLE NEVER GIVE HIM CREDIT BUT THATS ABOUT TO CHANGE!

CAUSE HES GOING TO EXPOSE EVERYBODY!!!

CAMRON IS THE LAST REAL NUGGA LEFT!!!(TRUST ME)

WELCOME CAMRON BACK…WE NEED HIM! HIP HOP NEEDS CAMRON! DONT YOU SEE HOW BORING THE GAME GETS WITHOUT HIM? DIPSET FELL OFF…THEY NEED CAMRON!

WHAT IS NY HIPHOP WITHOUT CAMRON?

HES BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGGINING OF THE REBIRTH AND IF HES NOT THERE IT WONT SURVIVE!!!

HIP HOP NEEDS CAMRON!!!

CAMRON PLEEEEEASE COMEBACK! WE NEED YOU!

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CAMRON PLEASE COMEBACK!!!! NY HIPHOP NEEDS CAMRON!

unfortunately, i dont think they are ever going to find the person. this is going to be cold case ..hopefully not though

**clutching my pearls**

@DIP$H!T I mean DIPSET DUDE….

NUCCA QUIT NUT-SACKIN!! YOU ON THIS WEBSITE HANGIN ON TESTACLES WIT BOTH HANDS!! CAM IS WACK. HE HAD HIS TIME. NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR LAFFY-TAFFY-YAPPY-BLACKY-HAPPY-CRAPPY———OR WHATEVER HE BE SAYIN.

CAMRON DOESNT RAP LIKE THAT! EVERYTHING CAMRON
@ Colonel Stink Meaner

SAYS HAS MEANING, HE DOES HAVE AN AWKWARD FLOW, BUT THATS WHAT MAKES HIM SPECIAL! EVERY RAPPER SHOULD HAVE THERE OWN STYLE! NOW A DAYS BITING IS CONSIDERED A GOOD THING, EVERYBODY DOING AUTONE FOR EXAMPLE. ITS RUINING MUSIC AND YOU PEOPLE STILL DONT GET IT!

IF YOU DONT UNDERSTAND CAMRON I SUGGEST YOU CHECK OUT “THE DIPtionary”…It has famous harlem quotes and slang in it for the people who cant seem to catch up!

@ Colonel Stink Meaner

CAMRON DOESNT RAP LIKE THAT… EVERYTHING CAMRON
SAYS HAS MEANING, HE DOES HAVE AN AWKWARD FLOW, BUT THATS WHAT MAKES HIM SPECIAL! EVERY RAPPER SHOULD HAVE THERE OWN STYLE AND FLOW!THE FACT HE WASNT AFRAID TO BE DIFFERENT AND DEVELOP HIS OWN LOOK AND SOUND IS WHAT MADE HIM SPECIAL! NOW A DAYS BITING IS CONSIDERED A GOOD THING, EVERYBODY DOING AUTONE FOR EXAMPLE.NOW PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO BE THEMSELVES AND DEVELOPE THERE OWN SOUND,LOOK AND STYLE AND HIPHOP IS SUFFERING. ITS RUINING MUSIC AND YOU PEOPLE STILL DONT GET IT!

EVEN IF YOU HATE A RAPPER…RESPECT ONE IF THEY ARE TRYING TO BE UNIQUE OR THERE OWN PERSON. NOW WE HAVE A INDUSTRY FULL OF SWAGGA JACKIN…

YOUNG JEZZY IS VERY TALENTED…BUT NOW THERE 3 RAPPERS THREE RAPPERS THAT SOUND JUST LIKE HIM CAUSE YALL ALLOW IT…
(ROCKO,GUCCI MANE, SHAWTY LO)

START FORCING THESE RAPPERS TO BE THEMSELVES AND THERE OWN INDIVIDUAL, AND RESPECT THE RAPPERS THAT DO IT NATURALLY…

LUPE FIASCO
KANYE WEST
COMMON
CAMRON
JEEZY
OUTKAST
BUSTA RHYMES

THESE RAPPERS DESERVE RESPECT FOR NOT BEING AFRAID TO BE INDIVIDUALS…

The Nerve

START FORCING THESE RAPPERS TO BE THEMSELVES AND THERE OWN INDIVIDUAL, AND RESPECT THE RAPPERS THAT DO IT NATURALLY…

LUPE FIASCO
KANYE WEST
COMMON
CAMRON
JEEZY
OUTKAST
BUSTA RHYMES

THESE RAPPERS DESERVE RESPECT FOR NOT BEING AFRAID TO BE INDIVIDUALS…

NOW WE GOT A BUCH OF RAPPERS COPYING AND AUTOTONING AND RUING THE RAP GAME AND THE INTERGRITY OF IT. NOW EVEN KANYE TOO!

THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE T PAIN…NOW THERES 100 AND IT WONT STOP! RAPPERS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. I FEEL SORRY FOR THIS NEW GENERATION…

BEFORE YOU HAD ALL KINDS OF HIPHOP…

YOU HAD…

DIDDY
THE FUGEES
BONE THUGS
NO LIMIT
QTIP
WEST COAST

THERE WAS SUCH AN ABUNDANCY AND VARIETY, NOW ALL YALL HAVE IN THE MAINSTREAM IS SOULJA BOY AND A BUNCH OF TECHNO AUTOTONE AND NOTHING FROM NY YORK!

THE DIPSET FANCLUB JUST WANTS EVERBODY TO KNOW NY NEEDS KILLA AND HIPHOP NEEDS CHANGE…THIS ISNT JUST ABOUT CAMRON. ITS ABOUT HIPHOP!

angela lola luv would love him. she said forget the good dude, take her to the hood nucca’s. here you go girl.

LUPE FIASCO
KANYE WEST
COMMON
CAMRON
JEEZY
OUTKAST
BUSTA RHYMES
2PAC
PUBLIC ENEMY
TRIBE CALLED QUEST

THESE RAPPERS DESERVE RESPECT FOR NOT BEING AFRAID TO BE INDIVIDUALS…

NOW WE GOT A BUCH OF RAPPERS COPYING AND AUTOTONING AND RUING THE RAP GAME AND THE INTERGRITY OF IT. NOW EVEN KANYE TOO!

THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE T PAIN…NOW THERES 100 AND IT WONT STOP! RAPPERS FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. I FEEL SORRY FOR THIS NEW GENERATION…

BEFORE YOU HAD ALL KINDS OF HIPHOP…

YOU HAD…

DIDDY
THE FUGEES
BONE THUGS
NO LIMIT
QTIP
WEST COAST

THERE WAS SUCH AN ABUNDANCY AND VARIETY, NOW ALL YALL HAVE IN THE MAINSTREAM IS SOULJA BOY AND A BUNCH OF TECHNO AUTOTONE AND NOTHING FROM NY YORK!

THE DIPSET FANCLUB JUST WANTS EVERBODY TO KNOW NY NEEDS KILLA AND HIPHOP NEEDS CHANGE…THIS ISNT JUST ABOUT CAMRON. ITS ABOUT HIPHOP!

BRING VARIETY BACK TO COMMERCIAL HIPHOP! WE ARE SICK OF THE SAME 5 RAPPERS WHO COME OUT…

TI
JEZZY
WAYNE
PLIES
CURTIS

ITS TIME FOR CHANGE AND RESTORATION…NOT JUST IN AMERICA BUT IN HIPHOP! I KNOW SOMEONE HAS TO AGREE!

Who da frock is a rocko, gucci mane, or shawty lo. gucci mane is that b!tch that punched a woman in the face next……Rocko WHO???? Is that Monica’s baby daddy…..NEXT Shawty LO……NEXT Not everyone here give a flying frock about the new era rap. You young-uns have killed it. Thank God for bootlegging and mp3, now you can listen to the one hit wonders without spending a dime out your pocket….GO AWAY.

Real HipHOP =
PAC
KRS ONE
Rakim
Chuck D
Busta
Common
Ice Cube
BIGGIE
DMX (When he was sane)
Scarface
Bun B
I have forgotten a few and I mean a FEW. The rest of that BS is Hollywood rap. If I hear Young JEZZY say yeah one more time I swear I am throwing acid on his ugly azz. SO, all in all I say this to say. Personally I don’t give a frock if he’s an original. Why don’t you be an original and fucc off.

AND NO!!!!

WE ARE NOT ON THE DIPSET/CAMRON PAYROLL!

WE ARE HIPHOP FANS WHO BLOG…

WE ARE DIPSET FANS…THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE CAMRON THOUGH, ITS ABOUT HIPHOP!SOMETHING HAS TO SHAKE, WE NEED SOME OF THE OLD RAPPERS WHO ARE UNIQUE TO COME BACK (LIKE CAMRON) AND NEW RAPPERS TO BE THEMSELVES.

RESTORE AMERICA

RESORE HIPHOP

@DipStansOFFICIAL

I FEEL YOU ON ORIGINALITY AND BEING YA’SELF. I RESPECT THAT. I’M JUST NOT A CAM’RON FAN,

“sickofit”

Why are you being such a negative blogger? That is also hurting the entertainment industry as well. Negative blogs and bloggers that just promote negativy and drama.They promote everything that doesnt matter instead of the art and the artist. And negative bloggers feed into it. Im NOT trying to come for you, so dont take it that way. I dont like negativity and negative blogging. I think blogs and bloggers purpose should be to get there point across and thats what DipStansOFFICIAL is trying to do.Get out point across that hiphop needs variety in the commercial industry and we need some of these new rappers to hold the own weight and be themselves and we need Camron, and hey…EVEN Jayz to comeback and save NY hiphop. We need Nas to got back to that old swagg and help NY hiphop. Fat Joe too, needs to go back to being Joey Crack!We need DMX to get his life together…

We want change in hiphop…and we see hope in Camron. (as crazy as that sounds)

@ Colonal Stink Meaner…

RESPECT!!!

THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT, RESPECT…ENOUGH WITH THE NEGATIVE BLOGGING WE DONT NEED CURSE AT EACH OTHER TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS.THATS THE POINT OF BLOGGING, WE ARE ALL LEARNING FROM EACH OTHER AND ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VIEWS AND IDEALS. THATS WHAT AMERICA IS ABOUT AND I LOVE IT! LETS ALL CONTINUE TO EXPRESS OURSELVES AND RESPECT OTHERS WHO ARE NOT AFRAID TO DO THE SAME AND RESPECT OPINIONS EVEN IF THEY DONT AGREE WITH OUT OWN.

*ONE LOVE*

@ “sickofit”…

Though I am sick of Kanye with the autotone…What about Kanye originally wasnt real hiphop? What about his other albums. Kanye (aside from autotune kanye) is hiphop. He is creative and he makes entertaining music and also music that moves people spirits. (College Drop Out, Never Let me Down and SpaceShip…”Cant Tell Me Nothing”) Kanye was/is great for hiphop. Thats what its about expression. Whats so different about that? What is BUN B saying more hiphop than Jezzy, Camron and Kanye? Nothing really. Its all hip hop in different forms.There is NOT only one way to be “hiphop”

The problem is commercialization and how in the commercial industry they only promote one sound. People are beggining to hate wayne, when they once loved him cause they are sick of him and he,tpain and kanye sound a like now.

DipStansOFFICIAL is just protesting for more originality and commercialization of originality and original rappers which the industry is failing to do. Thats why major lables like sony are forcing Jim Jones, Wayne, PLIES to sound like TPAIN and make the same song over and over again. Out of fear the public only wants the same thing. But we DONT!

WE WANT VARIETY AND WE WANT NY HIPHOP BACK WITHOUT ALL THE CRAZINESS AND WE BELIEVE CAMRON AND SOME OF THE OTHER ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF THE NY COMEBACK FROM THE 90′S CAN DO IT!

*PEACE AND LOVE*

I personally am sick of a TON of rappers. Hell, I’m tired of rappers period. I prefer Lyricists. People with strong Metaphorical Content or Meaning behind what they are saying. My $h!t list is hella long, but the ones whose names I am not calling careers are fading fast. Unfortunately fam, Cam’s career is over. He had his chance and time. He does not have the skills for longevity. Honestly. Hip hop needs a LOT of things to be officially labeled as “Hip Hop” again.

I personally vouch (as far as freestyling) for my man CORY GUNZ

How ironic Bossip says F*ck a Thug but glorifies other F*cking Thugs on this site. Make up your mind Bossip this is why soooo many Black males have no care in the world and continue conducting themselves in this way!!

May William Balfour rot in hell.

SMDH at the idiots up in here saying he didn’t do it – look at the sister!!

Some of you coons will defend a piece of shit black male to the point of looking like jackasses yourselves..

LOL!!

@ Colonal Stink Meaner…

YOUR RIGHT about Corey GUNZ!

He is talented and has what it takes to possibly go to the top and be a 50cent or a Jayz…But you know why he hasnt and will NOT go to the top?

Cause he doesnt have a Damon Dash, DIDDY, or a Dre Dre or Eminem…

Jayz and 50cent like to take all the credit for there success and that bothers me! They all had mentors and no one gets to the top by themselves. Not BIG or Jayz. They had the right people behind them.

There are SO many rappers who have all the talent in NY, but NY is SELFISH! All those rappers are only going for themselves. If Cory Gunz had a dash or the OLD diddy before he became the rape artist he would be where he needs to be.

Thats WHY we respect Cam’ron…(just hear me out) NO RAPPER from NY has put on more rappers from NY than Camron. He broke Juelz the right way. He put Juelz on all his singles and let his career take off and didnt even mind juelz being bigger than him. Camron was a good leader, cause he put his whole crew on and they could have stood alone had they not get the big head and crossed him.

We need more UNselfish CEO’s/rappers in HipHop like Killa Cam…Cause like I said, no one put more people on than him and he wasnt to arrogant to fall back and let them shine. But sadly…when they got big enough and felt like they didnt need him, they *HIT on HIM..and thats not cool. Thats why they are FAILING now.

MORE DIVERSITY…AND LESS SELFISHNESS IN NY HIPHOP!

WE NEED IT, NOT TODAY; BUT YESTERDAY…

@DipStansOFFICIAL:

I definitely feel you on the greed. Jay gives NO CREDIT OR RESPECT to Jaz-O. And Jaz STILL got flo. You right about what you just said too. No rebuttals there. But one thing I learned is that the Rap Industry is OVERALL a greedy industry. No more stand up individuals anymore. The LOVE is gone.

BOSSIP!!!!!! WILL U PLEASE STOP DOING WHAT THE MEDIA HAS DONE TO BLACK MEN ALL ALONG…..MAKING US LOOK LIKE ANIMALS & MONSTERS. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT THIS GUY DID ANYTHING. IT IS A HIGH PROFILE CASE & IT DEMANDS AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE SO WHO ELSE BUT AN EX HUSBAND WITH A LITTLE DIRT IN HIS PAST!! I GUESS YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER HEARD OF EVIDENCE BEING WITHHELD OR ENGINEERING A CASE FOR A CONVICTION…UNTIL I SEE HARD EVIDENCE THAT PUTS THIS KID TO THE MURDER PLEASE STOP MAKING HIM LOOK LIKE A MONSTER!

Dear Bossip: Guilty until Proven Innocent?

@DipStansOFFICIAL

Who tha hell hired you as the company lawyer? STFU already!

@ Common Sense

I am NOT a company lawyer. I am just leading a fanclub. People who particullarly like Killa and other NY hiphop artist who want to restore hiphop. I have lots of insightful vibes to put out about the currect state of hiphop and I will continue to express myself and bring awareness to the true problems and VOIDS that are stopping hiphop from growing as an art form, but becomming commercial and something people cant stomach.

I do LOVE your SN and I must make this point again…

“If there was NO SUCH rapper as “Camron”…rappers like “COMMON” would NOT have a place in hiphop.”

***There has to be both ends of the spectrum or the public will begin to resent the other end.***

THINK ABOUT IT…

whaaaaaaaa’d a dummy!…anything to hold up time….oh he did it!

@DIPSET

Are you a girl

are you from nyc

Whatchaknoboutdat?

Did anyone really expect him to confess…. he’s a coward. Cowards don’t take responsibility for their actions
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
My thoughts exactly,

I will not defend any child killer, white or black, male or female. But I no how the police get down and I will wait to see how this plays out. I am not saying he’s innocent or guilty.

@ DipStansOFFICIAL….

DISAPPEAR, PLEASE…i knew it was too positive in here…a cam’ron stan ????/ (i just dont get it)

PhillyBrownGrownWoman…

GOD BLESS

Stay Positive Ma…

Let’s wait for the facts. The whole thing was fishy to me from the get go. Don’t trust the cops and as for Chicago politics, we’ve seen that in action. This boy is gonna need his pushy mama — she might be better than his own lawyer

DEATH TO THUGS!
LONG LIVE BLACK MEN!
DEATH TO THUGS!
LONG LIVE BLACK MEN!
DEATH TO THUGS!
LONG LIVE BLACK MEN!
DEATH TO THUGS!
LONG LIVE BLACK MEN!

@ 2009

I second that. I say death to all f*cking thugs may you all die in drive by shootings…

F*ck a Thug
F*ck a Thug
F*ck a Thug

WOWWWWWWWWW @ #10 on the Chinese menu/w no MSG. LMFAOOOOOOOOO! That would be ironic

I really hate to say this, because it is a brother, but he really needs to be put to death. What he did is horrendous and there is no excuse for it..What a piece of garbage, to be considered a human being….I wish Jennifer happiness and peace. I hope that she is able to pick up the pieces and move forward….

what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

What evidence do we have that he did this? And why is everyone so quick to condemn this man without any real facts? Somebody fill me in if I missed something……..any hard evidence????

@ Always Knew

Hey girl. I agree with you. He needs to get the chair. I hope he stay on death row in prison for 10 years and then they put him to death. Anyone who kills a child is a worthless piece of shi*

If he did it, it is sad, because I think he will get off. Unfortunately, the evidence is very weak and circumstantial, which may be reasons to doubt.

Also, not defending Balfour, but if he did it, I think there would be some hard evidence to point towards the allegations that he did it. I think it would have been easy to find some slip ups, if he did it. Just my opinion.

He’s whack and somebody is going to break that bitch’s back…count on that!!!

I dont think Balfour did this, i do however think that he knows who did it and i think that Julia is involved. Purely from just what has been released, there are huge pieces missing from this puzzle and they are grasping at straws. I hope that when the truth finally does come out that this can be resolved. I hate that ppl had to lose their lives especially a baby. I really hate it, cuz I cried over that. but I dont think he did this physically. although in my opinion if you know about it, you just as guilty. thats why more than him should be up in jail.

If Cameron silly ass had witnessed Balfour murdering the Hudson family he wouldn’t tell anyone. I saw his 60minutes interview about no snitching. Cameron and all the niggarrigged negroes and cracker whites who believe in no snitchin

f*8k you!

DIRTY COPS GO DRINK YOURSELF TO DEATH. Balfour hateful mind did something. You can tell by his past record that he had no reason to be free. I only wish someone will make a law that all imbeciles and pedophiles should be locked away for the rest of their natural born lives.

You love a thug, you court disaster – Behold ‘EXHIBIT A.’

@ treasure- hey girl! how are you?

@ermy erm- if he didn’t do it, but knows who did, that’s called accessory after the fact, it is STILL a crime, and because of the heinous nature, he should suffer the same fate..Wasn;t he a gang member?? We’ll see, it all comes out in the wash…

I;d like it to be like the rest of you,BUT I KNOW HE’S GUILTY. He thought he should be getting a cut of Jennifer’s money…Julia was already seeing someone else, so I guess he’s gonna show her…

I;m not the judge- but I tell ya, I can’t wait to see how this plays out..Jennifer and Julia, lost their mother, son, nephew and brother behind this b.s.

Whoever did it, I hope they FRY!…

There is a difference between a THUG, and a low-life that has no regard for human life…

smdh @ im from Chicago and this is just the ultimately the worst mudre i ever heard if..

I KEPT UP WITH THIS STORY REALLY WELL. HOW DO THEY POSSIBLY THINK HE DID IT WHEN JULIANS BODY WAS FOUNG THAT MONDAY MORNING ON THE SOUTH SIDEOF CHICAGO IN THAT TRUCK, BELLFOR WAS ALREADY IN CUSTODY. ON TOP OF THAT A WITNESS SAID THAT THE TRUCK HAD NOT BEEN THERE ALL WEEKEND IT HAD POSSIBLY JUST GOT THERE…THIS IS A MYSTERY THAT WILL COME TO A HEAD. I DONT BELIEVE THAT BOY KILLED THAT FAMILY. HE MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT IT BUT I BELIEVE HE DIDNT DO IT.

There so many that are driven to have Public and
Media, conviction of William Balfour I wonder if
he will get Court Trial, at all the case has to tie
him to the evidence ! Not hersay,and since all those who want him to rotted in Hell was you there did see what happend!If they found gun powder on his hands, you got a case; if they found a gun on him, he had a case; if they found a fingerprint on the truck that he did this, you got a case; but they don’t have nothing,” Michelle Davis-Balfour said. Is so truth, this serious how people and police derial, and undermine justice GOD HELP US ALL.

I really agree with some of you on this. I truly believe William did not do this horrible crime. William just happen to be a friend of mine and he says he didn’t do it!!!!! Truth will come out at trial!